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Speaker 1: This is the good news, this is the exciting news. Again.

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Speaker 1: I'm not pessimistic, Pete. I'm brightside baby, I'm the killers.

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Speaker 1: I'm mister bright'side because I'm looking at the bright side

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Speaker 1: of everything. For example, this is realistically the last Friday

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Speaker 1: It's all just Katie bar the door. People forget what

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Speaker 1: there's dinners, there's get togethers, there's people dropping in town.

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Speaker 1: But it's not to say that we don't come in

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Speaker 1: good health and enjoyment. And there's plenty to talk about,

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Speaker 1: both college basketball. The NFL thought a fabulous game last

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Speaker 1: know that the Flintstones are not necessarily topical in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five, but they do have one hit that I

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Speaker 1: spend one time each year, and admittedly selfishly, it is

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Speaker 1: more significant, more important with each passing year that I'm

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Speaker 1: able to play it. Eddie, if you have the song

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Speaker 2: Ohnversary, Yeah, Conversarynnversarvey on this the nineteenth of decembervers this,

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Speaker 2: of course when Fred was waking up Wilma.

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Speaker 1: I believe for their anniversary. I NOI do what the

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Speaker 1: but more importantly, Eddie, if you could please, and yes

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Speaker 1: with me, please wish the happiest of sixty first wedding

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Speaker 1: anniversaries to none other than Lloyd and Karen Querry.

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Speaker 3: Happy anniversary to mister and missus Quarry.

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Speaker 1: So my dad is as we you know, I think

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Speaker 1: My dad's gone through a health journey. He had a

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Speaker 1: but sixty one years together, and wanted to certainly wish

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Speaker 1: And so last night was another round of that. In

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Speaker 1: I think they I do think. I don't know, but

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Speaker 3: You think they have a cake, a big one thousand cake.

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Speaker 1: It's like the it's like the cake that Elaine ate

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Speaker 1: Fifteen percent of the audience gets the reference, but they

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. But yes, good point on Carlisle sitting on

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Speaker 1: fifty plot I get it, and your most important piece

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Speaker 1: from the standpoint of the Colts is coming off the

434
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Speaker 1: same injury of the most important piece of the Pacers.

435
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Speaker 1: The difference being the one that's with the Pacers is

436
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: already locked in under contract. There's a lot to get to.

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Speaker 1: One thing happened last night that I thought to myself,

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Speaker 1: right there, this is the best of the best, as

439
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Speaker 1: good as it gets. And it happened last night. It

440
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 1: happened late, but I want to go over it because

441
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Speaker 1: it was one of those things that you just kind

442
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Speaker 1: of felt like everybody else was right there with you.

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Speaker 1: I'll explain what I'm talking about and big show lined

444
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Speaker 1: up today, Zach Osterman. Osterman going to join us. Coming

445
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: up one o'clock. We'll talk about Indiana football, notably getting

446
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Speaker 1: ready for the College Football Playoff, basketball side of it

447
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: as well. Rob Blackman going to join us, the voice

448
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: of the Purdue boiler Makers coming up at one thirty

449
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: Perdue and Auburn getting set to battle tomorrow. That's going

450
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Speaker 1: to be a six thirty tip. Kevin Bowen at two

451
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Speaker 1: o'clock today, Good for the heart, Feel good Friday. Coming

452
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: up at the bottom of the two o'clock hour. A

453
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: lot to get to, a lot to unpack when we

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Speaker 1: come back. Something had happened last night where you just

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Speaker 1: felt like this sense of community. And I'm not talking

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Speaker 1: about the darts and the mini hoop at night owls,

457
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: but rather just simply watching something that was pretty awesome.

458
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about it next. One of the things that's

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Speaker 1: fun about sport, and in particular this time of year,

460
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Speaker 1: because I've always appreciated that you and I know that,

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Speaker 1: and I hope this is true for everybody. You know.

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Speaker 1: We all have our different family traditions, we all have

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Speaker 1: different things that we do to enjoy the holidays and

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Speaker 1: enjoy family time, whether it be Thanksgiving or Christmas, or

465
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Speaker 1: Hanukah or Kwanza, whatever it is that you might celebrate.

466
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, this time of year is there

467
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Speaker 1: are so many the confluence of so many different traditions,

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Speaker 1: and one of the things that makes those things special

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Speaker 1: is you know that other homes, other houses, other people

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Speaker 1: are doing the same with their people, and you certainly

471
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Speaker 1: hope that all people are able to enjoy that. And

472
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Speaker 1: every once in a while, especially on a gloomy, kind

473
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Speaker 1: of snowy, you know, wintery Thursday night, something takes place

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Speaker 1: where you feel like you are you can just get

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Speaker 1: the feeling that you're part of this big gathering. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Daytona five hundred, when NASCAR and the Daytona five

477
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Speaker 1: hundred really took off, or took off as maybe even

478
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Speaker 1: the wrong word, but first got introduced to the mainstream

479
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: was in the I think it was seventy eight when

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Speaker 1: you had the big fight at the Daytona five hundred,

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Speaker 1: And it just so happened that there was an ice

482
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Speaker 1: storm and a blizzard throughout the vast majority of the Northeast,

483
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Speaker 1: and so all of these people that normally never watched NASCAR,

484
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: everyone was sitting on their couch watching TV because there

485
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Speaker 1: was nowhere to go. And you know, back then you

486
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Speaker 1: had like four channels, but everybody was watching the same thing.

487
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: And social media has a big part of this too,

488
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: when you're something's going on and so therefore you're locked

489
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Speaker 1: into you know, whatever social media channel that you use,

490
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: and you can tell that everybody's commenting on the same thing.

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Speaker 1: And that was the case last night with what I

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Speaker 1: think was the best game of the season in the

493
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Speaker 1: National Football League, and it boded well, or bodes well

494
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Speaker 1: truthfully for the Colts because as I was watching that

495
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Speaker 1: game last night, and I got the impression that I

496
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Speaker 1: haven't seen the television numbers, and I know it's on

497
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Speaker 1: Prime and not on you know, so they're going to

498
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Speaker 1: be lower because fewer people have the streaming service even

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five than they do if it was

500
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Speaker 1: on just regular ESPN or whatever else. But that's got

501
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Speaker 1: to be one of the highest drawn, especially late in

502
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Speaker 1: the game. Tune in numbers for Amazon Prime so far

503
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Speaker 1: since they began doing the games. But as I'm sitting

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Speaker 1: there watching it, I'm thinking to myself, Okay, one of

505
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Speaker 1: these teams, I believe is probably the favorite and the

506
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Speaker 1: best team in the NFL. Now, Eddie, who would you

507
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Speaker 1: say right now is the best team in the National

508
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Speaker 1: Football League if you had to pick one.

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Speaker 5: Either one of those teams that we saw last night,

510
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 5: probably right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And and Matt Stafford and you know, with what he's

512
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Speaker 1: got going with certainly just the receiving game in general,

513
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Speaker 1: and with Puka Nakua and the way that I mean

514
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: just their timing and Nikoua last night was incredible, right,

515
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Speaker 1: And I know he's had a rough week, but he

516
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Speaker 1: was incredible on the field. And Stafford just has this

517
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: locked in. This dude is totally in control feel about

518
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Speaker 1: him that is very hard to dismiss.

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Speaker 5: It's like whenever you watch Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes

520
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Speaker 5: or Joe Burrow get into these like these zone zones

521
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 5: the quote unquote flow state, as Aarony Smith coined it, now, they're.

522
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Speaker 3: Just impossible to stop.

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Speaker 1: I totally agree.

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Speaker 3: And he's been like that pretty much all season.

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Speaker 1: And so when you assess the RAMS, what you have

526
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Speaker 1: to then keep in mind is and yes, what it

527
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Speaker 1: could have should have and if if some butts were

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Speaker 1: candy and nuts, will all have a merry Christmas. I

529
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: get it. However, that's a team in the Rams that

530
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: the Colts should have beaten different time of year. I

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00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: get it right, and Seattle, you can't even necessarily weigh

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Speaker 1: it in. And I don't even know offensively that Seattle

533
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: was doing, you know, showing their full game plan against

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00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: the Colts. You know, I don't know, because it wasn't

535
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: to the level of last night. But what Seattle does

536
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: do is show kind of a blueprint for what the

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Speaker 1: Colts ultimately can hope for with a healthy Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: And that being Sam Donald, last night, I thought showed

539
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Speaker 1: something and I do think that what we there are

540
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: always quarterbacks that they have a game or a moment

541
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: and you get bought in and you get fooled by it.

542
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: The New Orleans Saints got fooled by Aaron Brooks. He

543
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: caught lighting in a bottle for three games and like boom,

544
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: let's give you a ton of money. The Buffalo Bills

545
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: got fooled by Rob Johnson. The Detroit Lions got fooled

546
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: by Scott Mitchell. The Miami Dolphins probably got fooled by Tua. Right.

547
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's all over the place. And Sam Donald

548
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,239
Speaker 1: has had his moments where he's kind of fooled you

549
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: and then also you're like, no, we know who you

550
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:11,959
Speaker 1: are now. But I thought last night, in key moments repeatedly,

551
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: and he did have some costly turnovers, but when they

552
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: needed it most, not once, but twice, Donald was exceptional

553
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: and he was locked in as well, and as good

554
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: as Stafford was, Darnald was as well. And I think

555
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: that's good news for the Colts. Again, I'm going by

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Speaker 1: assuming Daniel Jones comes back from the injury and is healthy. Okay,

557
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: But if Daniel Jones comes back from the injury and

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Speaker 1: is healthy, then I think that's a blueprint that you

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Speaker 1: can look at because Darnald is a guy that had

560
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: his question marks, had his inconsistencies, but showed enough flash

561
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Speaker 1: at different stops along the way that you felt like,

562
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Speaker 1: if he had a good roster around him, had some

563
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: weapons that he now has the maturity and the moxie

564
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Speaker 1: to put the ghosts of Christmas past behind him and

565
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: play forward. And I thought last night he showed that,

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Speaker 1: and that's good news for the cults because that's the

567
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: blueprint of what you want out of a Daniel Jones. Now,

568
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: did you get a chance to watch much of that

569
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 1: game any or were you still doing the Pacers postgame stuff.

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Speaker 5: Once the Pacers game ended, I flipped it over to

571
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 5: that game, so I was able to watch most of

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Speaker 5: the second half.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was there were I have no real room.

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that. I've always kind of liked the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: I think I've let that be known.

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Speaker 5: And we were, by the way, what'd you think of

577
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 5: the Seahawks uniforms? I thought those are right there with

578
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Speaker 5: the ones that you love the most.

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Speaker 3: No what, no, no, no, you're a lunatic.

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Speaker 1: No, I get it. Okay, they were a little too Okay.

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Speaker 1: First off, let me back up here. Okay, I'm not

582
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Speaker 1: a fan of green.

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Speaker 3: Color.

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Speaker 1: Hold on. I like the lime green, the high lighter

585
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Speaker 1: lime green they use as an accentuation to the royal

586
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: blue and silver that are their two primaries. I like

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Speaker 1: it there. I don't like the dark green, the almost

588
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 1: forest green, as the primary as it changes under the lights.

589
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: To quote Hall notes, no can do not terrible, but

590
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: trying a little too hard. They're like the zubab pants

591
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 1: of uniforms. But last Saturday, Shannon and I go out

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Speaker 1: to dinner and I see this couple walk in and

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00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: the dudes wearing a Seattle Seahawks, the old school Seahawks logo,

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Speaker 1: the old school Seahawks. He's wearing the snow hat and

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00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: I actually have one of these with the Seahawks on it,

596
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: and I'm like, holy cow. So I say to him, Hey,

597
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: I got to tell you I have actually that exact

598
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: same hatiteur it once a year. I'm a tradition laden guy, right,

599
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: I'm regimented. And so we start talking and I said, so,

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Speaker 1: this guy is from Seattle now lives in Champagne and

601
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: he and his wife come to Indianapolis each year in

602
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 1: the Christmas time to Christmas shop and go to dinner

603
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: and whatever else, just a weekend getaway. And I said,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, we're getting ready to do the exact

605
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: same thing tomorrow to Milwaukee. Right. So he and I

606
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: started talking about just the NFL in general exchange numbers.

607
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Speaker 1: And I was texting with him last night during the

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Speaker 1: game about the Seahawks and the Rams game because that

609
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: felt like the two upper echelon teams and it was

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Speaker 1: and I could see it because he's a huge Seahawks fan.

611
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: Eddie the roller coaster of emotion in that game, it

612
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: was just back and forth and then you had the

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00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: crazy two point conversion. You saw that, right, Yes, very

614
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: interesting on how that played out. So the two point

615
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: conversion for those that did not see it, it was

616
00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: a what looked to be basically a dead play because

617
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: Darnold throws what looks to be an incomplete pass, but

618
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: it was a backward pass, which means it's a live

619
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: ball and it gets kicked around and then Seattle just

620
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: kind of without thinking about it, picks it up and

621
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Speaker 1: it's like, oh, wait a minute, that's now good because

622
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: you're in the end zone, and boom, two point conversion.

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Speaker 1: And that turned out to be a difference of the game.

624
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: But it was a game of great ebanflow. It was

625
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: an unbelievable game, but it was the best game, and

626
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: I believe it was the best game of the year

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00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. And on a weekend where

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00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: we have other sports going on, but most of it

629
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Speaker 1: is Saturday loaded. For example, college basketball Indiana playing on Saturday,

630
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: Butler college basketball playing on Saturday, Perdue playing on Saturday,

631
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: Pacers playing Saturday and Monday. So you have all these

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00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: NFL games on a Sunday. The Colt's playing on a

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00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: Monday night. And guess what this weekend is. It's a

634
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: theme weekend at Querying Company. It's a theme we for

635
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: the NFL and music to go with it. We will

636
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: explain our new musical theme when it comes to the

637
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: NFL schedule next. Okay, So somewhere there is a group

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00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: of guys that are breaking rocks in the hot sun.

639
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: Right they're in the I don't know if it's hot

640
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: sun right now in Pocatello, but they're in the Pocatella

641
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 1: Penitentiary and they've been breaking rocks in the hot sun

642
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: because they fought the law on the law one. And

643
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 1: now they're sitting there and the warden comes and says,

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00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: I got good news for you. I got good news

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00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: for you, fellas. You've been breaking rocks in the hot sun,

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00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: and therefore we're going to reward you. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no no. We're not gonna give you a bottle of

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Speaker 1: SuDS like we once did for those that got to

649
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Speaker 1: retar the top of the plating factory. No, we're gonna

650
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Speaker 1: let you watch an NFL game this Sunday. Now, we

651
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: do this a lot eddie where you say, okay, so

652
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Speaker 1: if you were the one television inside of the penitentiary

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Speaker 1: where everybody's allowed to watch a game, like you had

654
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Speaker 1: as the community television in your dorm room floor in college.

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Speaker 1: What's the game that they would say? Yeah, I mean, technically,

656
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Speaker 1: we're letting these guys watch the NFL, but we're gonna

657
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Speaker 1: give them the worst possible game because we can't be

658
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Speaker 1: too kind. Okay. Now, it is my belief. And this

659
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Speaker 1: happens a lot this time of year because you start

660
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Speaker 1: getting into and this is why fantasy football this time

661
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: of year becomes so challenging. Guys are getting benched, guys arrested,

662
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Speaker 1: et cetera. I think last night we might have seen

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Speaker 1: the only maybe they're too the only non poke tele

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Speaker 1: penitentiary games on the schedule. Now, Eddie, let me read

665
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Speaker 1: off for you the schedule, and I want you to

666
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Speaker 1: tell me, Okay, if you consider it a pok tele

667
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Speaker 1: penitentiary level game, then you give me like two seconds

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Speaker 1: worth of the song.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I can do that, or I can give you

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Speaker 3: a ding or an Okay, we'll do that.

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Speaker 1: We'll do the ding, and then when at the end

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Speaker 1: you can play the song when you declare the one

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Speaker 1: that you determined to be the biggest breaking rocks in

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Speaker 1: the hot Sun game. Okay, we will begin with Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: at the I forget who's quarterbacking this week? Washington Commanders

676
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Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota?

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Speaker 3: Okay, is quarterbacking the Commanders?

678
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Speaker 1: Not a terrible game? Right?

679
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Speaker 6: Nope?

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00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 1: Okay? Green Bay at Chicago. That's obviously a very good game.

681
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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 3: That's probably the best game left on the schedule.

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Speaker 1: It's there are two. That's one of them. Now let

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Speaker 1: me read you the rest here. Buffalo at Cleveland, Buffalo

685
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Speaker 1: at Cleveland. It's going to be a mud soup ice covered.

686
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Speaker 1: Are we going to see what Shader Sanders is doing?

687
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Speaker 1: It's a ten and a half point spread. I mean,

688
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Speaker 1: that's a Pokatella game, is it not? Maybe? I don't know.

689
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Speaker 5: But Buffalo with Buffalo, I don't know if it's a

690
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Speaker 5: Pokotella game.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers at Dallas not a Polkatele game. The Chiefs

692
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Speaker 1: with Gardner Minshew going in and taking on the Titans

693
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Speaker 1: of Tennessee at the Candidate it's a candidate, okay. Cincinnati

694
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Speaker 1: and whoever is quarterbacking the Dolphins in Miami.

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Speaker 3: Quinn ears okay?

696
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Speaker 1: And does that give it enough intrigue.

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Speaker 3: Well, Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase T. Higgins.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know what, So are they gonna play themselves

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Speaker 1: into a.

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Speaker 8: Fault?

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Speaker 1: You know they're trying to win. That's what Zach Taylor said. Okay,

702
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: well brace yourself. Here the New York Jets at New Orleans.

703
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: There's your winner. Hold on, We're not done yet. We're

704
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: not done yet though. Okay, we're done. We don't need

705
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Speaker 1: to keep no. Here we go Minnesota at the New

706
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Speaker 1: York Giants. I mean, well, we're seeing if jj McCarthy

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Speaker 1: can like put together some sort of streak and out dude,

708
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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart Okay, Tampa Bay at Carolina. That's actually sneaky

709
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Speaker 1: decent because there are some implications in that game. Right

710
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Speaker 1: we First, here's a sneaky good game. Jacksonville at Denver, YEP.

711
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Speaker 1: That's got implication possibly for the Colts as well. If

712
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville wins that game, Katie bar the door for the Colts.

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Speaker 1: They're in some trouble there, they already are. But you

714
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Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. Okay, Atlanta at Arizona. Another candidate

715
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Speaker 1: who's quarterbacking for either one of those teams.

716
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Speaker 3: You got Jacoby Brissett and Kirk Cousins.

717
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Speaker 1: Man and Cousins actually has played halfway decent. Pittsburgh got

718
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Speaker 1: Detroit not terrible, right, I guess Pittsburgh mathematically to Okay,

719
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Speaker 1: how about this one, the Raiders at Houston. You're not

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Speaker 1: dinging any of these as potential Pocatella pen intentional games? Yeah,

721
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Speaker 1: I mean that's the potentially Yeah yeah, Okay, New England

722
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Speaker 1: and Baltimore's decent. Yep. And then truthfully, San Francisco and Indianapolis.

723
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Speaker 1: Is anybody outside of San Francisco or Indianapolis excited about that?

724
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Speaker 1: For that matter? Is anybody in Indianapolis or San Francisco

725
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Speaker 1: excited about that?

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Speaker 3: Hey, you saw the numbers last week for the Rivers game.

727
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: People were fascinated to see what Philip Rivers could do, Right.

728
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Speaker 5: Jake, I think the clear and obvious answer here is

729
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Speaker 5: the Jets and the Saints.

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Speaker 1: So when the okay, it used to be that they

731
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Speaker 1: would play when the Saints come marching in, when New

732
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Speaker 1: Orleans would take to the field, But when they're playing

733
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Speaker 1: at formerly the Mercedes Benz Louisiana Superdome, I don't know

734
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Speaker 1: who it's sponsored by now against the New York Jets,

735
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: and we're not even sure who's quarterback in the Jets.

736
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Speaker 1: The music that will play when they come out on

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Speaker 1: the field will be this, Eddie, you're still there?

738
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Speaker 3: No, I'm not here.

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Speaker 1: There we go, There we go. Because those those two

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Speaker 1: teams are as on point for this game as Eddie

741
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Speaker 1: is when it comes to firing up the music, Rightank.

742
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Speaker 3: You do you even know who the quarterback is for

743
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Speaker 3: the Jets?

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Speaker 1: It is not justin fields, correct? Nope? Should I know this? No?

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Speaker 1: Uh not?

746
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Speaker 5: Tyrod Taylor, give me the Rod Taylor, give me the

747
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Speaker 5: college Missouri.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy?

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Speaker 9: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Okay, is it a veteran? No, it's gonna say so.

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Speaker 1: It's not Chase Daniel Rose.

752
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Speaker 3: Chase Daniel is no longer in the I know.

753
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Speaker 1: But Chase Daniel was in the league like fifteen years,

754
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Speaker 1: and like the last twelve of them, everyone assumed he

755
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Speaker 1: was out of the league. I am throwing in the

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Speaker 1: towel on this.

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Speaker 3: Brady Cook.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Brady Cook taking on who's quarterbacking New Orleans this week?

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Speaker 3: Tyler shuck that shucks?

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Speaker 1: Okay, don't you shuck things in New Orleans? If you

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Speaker 1: get like crawfish? Aren't you supposed to shuck him. I

762
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Speaker 1: have no idea. I don't eat crawfish. You shuck them

763
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Speaker 1: and then you cook them. What do you know? This

764
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: literally is the at two Fable call it the at

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Speaker 1: two fay Ball. Shuck and cook. There's a restaurant right

766
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Speaker 1: there off Bourbon Street, right Shuck and cook. Get yourself

767
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: a hurricane, drink that bad boy, get yourself some crawfish.

768
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Speaker 1: Shuck and cook those things till the cows come home.

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Speaker 1: We come back, Zach Astroman gonna join us. Indiana getting

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Speaker 1: set college football playoff. It's going to be here faster

771
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: than you know. And I have a tip for those

772
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Speaker 1: of you go into the Rose Bowl. We'll get into

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Speaker 1: it all next. So yes, in fact, the Saints and

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Speaker 1: the Jets, we've determined it's a weird week in the

775
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: league because you just look around. You're like, man, who's

776
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Speaker 1: starting at quarterback here? Who's starting there? You just kind

777
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: of don't know. Now the college football landscape, obviously, everything

778
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: getting underway in the first round of games for the

779
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Speaker 1: college football playoffs, and it is still surreal. It is

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Speaker 1: still with hesitation, even though at this point if you

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Speaker 1: are sleeping on Indiana at this point, if you are

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Speaker 1: ruling out Indiana. Why not Indiana?

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Speaker 3: Are you going to be out in the boot tonight, Jake,

784
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Speaker 3: I am probably.

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Speaker 5: Well, if you're out late at night, you can tune

786
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Speaker 5: into this radio station and catch the game of the

787
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Speaker 5: potential winner, who i e will face next week.

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Speaker 1: That will determine it all right, Alabama and Oklahoma yep,

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Speaker 1: with the winner going to the Rose Bowl. Now, if

790
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Speaker 1: you are going to the Rose Bowl to watch Indiana,

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Speaker 1: the one bit of advice I can give you, the

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Speaker 1: only bit of advice I can give you, is the

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Speaker 1: fact that and I my understanding is Indiana fans that

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00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: bought tickets through Indiana, you didn't really get to pick

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Speaker 1: where your seat was. You just kind of picked a section.

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Speaker 1: But and we can ask Zach Osterman from the Indianapolis Star,

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Speaker 1: who's joining us now on the Java House Peel and

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Speaker 1: poor guest line whether or not he has Urien's this.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 1: He joins us now in the program, Zach, Thank you, Eddie. Zach,

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Speaker 1: you have or have not been to the Rose Bowl.

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Speaker 10: I've never been to the Rose Bowl. I didn't make

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Speaker 10: the trip last year in Indiana played UCLA.

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Speaker 1: Okay, because the one thing that it is a I

805
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: went this year for the first time. I mean, I've

806
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Speaker 1: been outside the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, but going in

807
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Speaker 1: as a spectator at an event there. The one thing

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Speaker 1: that I will tell Indiana fans if you have a chance,

809
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 1: and by now you probably wouldn't, but if you're buying

810
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: on the secondary market, try to buy tickets as close

811
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Speaker 1: to the end of the aisle as possible because the

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Speaker 1: sections are literally like fifty five rows or seats across,

813
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Speaker 1: and if you're sitting in say twenty seven and twenty eight,

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Speaker 1: it is like an airplane. It is the tightest the

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Speaker 1: outside of the parking lot that we have here. It's

816
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: the tightest stadium I've ever seen, in the fact that

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00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: it's you know, ninety thousand seats or whatever it may be,

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00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: and it should be like sixty five thousand, you know

819
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Speaker 1: what I mean, but a fabulous venue in Indiana get

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Speaker 1: to be Their question would be this the better matchup

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Speaker 1: for Indiana, Alabama or Oklahoma?

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Speaker 10: You know, I've obviously discussed this with people for I

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Speaker 10: guess a couple of weeks now, and I think it

824
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Speaker 10: is a difficult question to answer. And the reason why

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Speaker 10: is because I think a lot of people would lean

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Speaker 10: Oklahoma because Oklahoma has struggled so consistently to move and

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Speaker 10: score the ball this season, and you know, frankly, even

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Speaker 10: if you look at, you know, some of the games

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Speaker 10: Oklahoma played against teams that were not very good, they

830
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Speaker 10: still had some offensive issues. I think the flip side

831
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Speaker 10: is if you're sort of saying, does either of these

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Speaker 10: teams have something about their profile that they do so

833
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Speaker 10: exceptionally well that that could win them a game, that

834
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Speaker 10: could win them a playoff game just by itself. It

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Speaker 10: is Oklahoma defense, and so I think you'd probably Oklahoma,

836
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Speaker 10: you know, maybe allowing for the possibility of Pi Simpson

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Speaker 10: really being hurt and you know, you're wanting to see

838
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Speaker 10: a more limited quarterback if you see Alabama, I think

839
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Speaker 10: you probably lean Oklahoma. But I think that the danger

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Speaker 10: there is if there's kind of one one of these

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Speaker 10: two teams that has a unit, has a feature of

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Speaker 10: itself that can win a game like this just by itself.

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Speaker 10: Oklahoma's defense can do that at a level that I'm

844
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Speaker 10: not sure Alabama can.

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Speaker 6: On either side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: The Indiana Stories Act, there's nothing literally you and I

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Speaker 1: could do, Like our sister station just did a fabulous

848
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Speaker 1: job as they do every year with the WIBC Salvation

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Speaker 1: Army radiothon right so they're on the radio and just

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Speaker 1: NonStop for you know, hours upon hours upon hours. And

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Speaker 1: you and I could do a radiothon right now and

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Speaker 1: talk to We're blue in the face, and yet we

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Speaker 1: still would not be able to properly illustrate how dumb

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Speaker 1: it would be to rule out anything about Indiana at

855
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Speaker 1: this point, you know what I mean, we've kind of

856
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Speaker 1: seen that they have now answered every single challenge, But

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Speaker 1: yet do you still think that people see them despite

858
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Speaker 1: being the number one seed? Are they the favorite in

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Speaker 1: this playoff?

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Speaker 10: I don't think they're the favorite, and I'm not sure

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Speaker 10: I would make them the favorite. That's not because they're Indiana,

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Speaker 10: that's just because I think on balance, you can still

863
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 10: make me a compelling argument that Ohio State and maybe

864
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 10: Georgia would be slight a favorite ahead of them. And

865
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 10: I haven't looked at it, like the National Championship odds.

866
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 10: I don't know where everybody stacks up. I just think

867
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 10: like as good as Indiana is, you have to acknowledge

868
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 10: that if we're talking about who is the favorite to

869
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 10: win the literal national Championship, that's as narrow as the

870
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 10: margins gets. And I would argue that Indians maybe in

871
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 10: the top three. Like I was texting with a medium

872
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 10: a fellow member of the sort of college media apparatus

873
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 10: in the third quarter of the Big Ten Championship game,

874
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 10: and I said, give me these two teams in Georgia

875
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 10: against the field. I think one of those three teams

876
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 10: wins the national title. I'm sure I'll be wrong, because

877
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 10: I always damn, but I just think like Indiana is in

878
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 10: that rare air. They are one of the teams that

879
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 10: has the inside lane, both because of their seeding and

880
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 10: also because of what they've proven about themselves. I think

881
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 10: it's worth pointing out nobody else has the wins Indiana.

882
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 10: Does you know that's that's kind of one of the

883
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 10: big I'm sorry, they have.

884
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: The two best wins in college football.

885
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 10: They do. And even if you want to kind of

886
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 10: go a layer below that, a win at Iowa, a

887
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 10: win at Penn State, the way they beat Illinois. I mean,

888
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 10: you know, even the non conference schedule that that was

889
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 10: such a such a controversial sort of talking point in

890
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 10: the in the in the preseason. Well, now two of

891
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 10: those teams one ten games. One of them won their conference,

892
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 10: so you know it, nobody's got the sort of what

893
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 10: have you done on the field resume that Indiana Indiana's got. Now,

894
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,919
Speaker 10: I think there are some injury concerns that that may

895
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 10: come to bear on Indiana here in the playoffs. I

896
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 10: also just think, like I said, we're talking about the

897
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 10: narrowest imaginable margin. We're not talking about in Indiana gets

898
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 10: the six wins or seven wins or in Indiana you

899
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 10: know beat You know these games we used to talk

900
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 10: about where we'd say, you know, the winner of this

901
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 10: game has a good shot at a bowl game and

902
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 10: the loser is really going to struggle to find a path.

903
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 10: Now we're talking about being the best team in the country.

904
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 10: And and if you're asking me who I think has

905
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 10: the best chance to win a national title, I think

906
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 10: Indiana is comfortably in the lead pack. I'd probably have

907
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 10: they ever so slightly ahead of them. And then again,

908
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 10: I actually think Kirby has kind of brought Georgia to

909
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 10: the boil at just the right time this season to

910
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 10: put them in that conversation as well.

911
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: Zach Osterman is my guest Indianapoli star. He's on the

912
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 1: JAVA house peel and poor guest line, Zach. You look

913
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: at the injury for example, to Stephen Day, who you

914
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: know as a defensive lineman was a critical tackle for

915
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: lost guy for Indiana, and you know, now we know

916
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: is not going to be available in the College football playoff.

917
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: But let me ask this and see how I can

918
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: word this. Does Indiana have more margin for error when

919
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: it comes to injury based on the fact that it

920
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: is not a roster that is built with huge disparity

921
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: between their starters and a bunch of five stars, and

922
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: then there are reserves, a bunch of younger players or

923
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: three stars, et cetera. There is less drop off per

924
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: unit with Indiana. And while they are very good play,

925
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: what Indiana's formula for success is is as much about

926
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: preparation and execution of what their coach wants versus actual

927
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: jump out talent across the board, and that allows for

928
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: greater transfer of execution from one player to the next.

929
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: Overstating it or some truth to that.

930
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 10: So I think that's probably fair, at least to a point.

931
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 10: You know, I do think like, however, they solve the

932
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 10: Steven Daily you know sort of problem here, whether it

933
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 10: is just going to the next man up, which is

934
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 10: probably Daniel and Dukeway, who's a sophomore a little bit undersized.

935
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 10: He came over. He was one of the players that

936
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 10: was committed to James Madison out of high school and

937
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 10: flipped his commitment to Indiana when Kurt Signetti and his

938
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 10: staff came over in the Winner of twenty three, whether

939
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 10: it's kicking somebody like Mario Landino, who's played tackle for

940
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 10: basically all of this season but did play a fair

941
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 10: bit of end last season out to the edge, whether

942
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 10: it is maybe running some more odd fronts in the end,

943
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 10: it's been a pretty consistent four down front this season,

944
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 10: but we saw them run quite a bit of odds

945
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 10: front last season, you know, between sort of that two

946
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 10: man game between Mikal Kamara and CJ. West, with James

947
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 10: Carpenter on the other side, or sometimes Lenel Carr on

948
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 10: the other side. I do think at a certain point,

949
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 10: whatever the solution is there, you're giving up something you

950
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 10: can't get back, whether it's experience in you know, let's

951
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 10: not forget just Steven Day, but also Kellen Wyatt, the

952
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 10: Maryland transfer who had looked so promising and was actually

953
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 10: the player whose injury kind of gave Daily a chance

954
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 10: to come to the four a little bit more as

955
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 10: the season went on. Whether it's the fact that you

956
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 10: are having to maybe change the complexion of your defense

957
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 10: a little bit this time of year. That could be

958
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 10: in moving a player like Landino who's been so productive

959
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 10: at tackle. It could be in changing what you're trying

960
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 10: to do sort of schematically and play maybe a little

961
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 10: bit more.

962
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 3: Three three to five.

963
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 10: I do think at a certain point, you, like I said,

964
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 10: before you start to lose something you can't get back.

965
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 10: But I think to your point, the question is what

966
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 10: is the margin on that sort of loss versus return.

967
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 10: And as long as particularly what I would say is

968
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 10: as long as Indiana's got it's tackle rotations is why

969
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 10: why I don't think Landino maybe moves. As long as

970
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 10: Indiana's got its tackle rotation tight and Indiana's got those

971
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 10: three linebackers healthy, I think that's the heart of this

972
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 10: defense because that is where it is just so hard

973
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 10: to win at the point of attack against Indiana. That

974
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 10: the ends the edges have been really good this season.

975
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 10: Why it was really good before you got hurt. Daily

976
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 10: really came to the four after why I got hurt

977
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:54,240
Speaker 10: Michael Kamaras saddled some injuries. He's also probably just suffered

978
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 10: from maybe getting a little bit more attention this season,

979
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 10: which has probably opened the door for someone like why

980
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 10: their daily to be a little bit more productive. But

981
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 10: the constant has been you know, in soccer, we use

982
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,240
Speaker 10: the term called the spine of a team, the players,

983
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 10: the quality of the players that run straight through your team,

984
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 10: from your forward to your midfield, to your center backs

985
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 10: to your goalkeeper. The spine of that defense has been

986
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 10: the strength of its defensive tackle play. Tyrie Tucker has

987
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 10: been the first team All Big Ten player, He's been

988
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 10: an All American. I think Mario Landino probably got the

989
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 10: harsh end of some of that decision, some of those

990
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 10: decisions because he was just as good. And then those

991
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 10: three linebackers and how good they've been, how versatile and

992
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 10: multiple they are. As long as Indiana has got that,

993
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 10: I think they'll be okay. And I don't think that

994
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 10: your assessment is completely unfair. That there is an extent

995
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,479
Speaker 10: to which the secret sauce in all this is Brian

996
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 10: Haynes and his ability, especially given some time. And I

997
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 10: think that's important here because he's had time to figure

998
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 10: out he's had the best part of a month, or

999
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 10: he will have had the best part of a month

1000
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 10: to figure out here's how we're going to solved this problem.

1001
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 10: This wasn't you know, a fix that was concocted on

1002
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 10: five today's turnaround between games, he's had time to sort

1003
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 10: of go back to the drawing board, rethink it, rescheme it,

1004
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 10: and then a bunch of time in practice. Whatever the

1005
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 10: solution is, to drill it and repeat it and refine it.

1006
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 10: I think that it is probably I think your your

1007
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 10: assessment is probably fair.

1008
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 7: There.

1009
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: I'm curious of this, Zach. You know, I went to Indiana.

1010
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: I grew up in Indiana. My friends, the vast majority

1011
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: of them are I mean, I obviously pretty friends. My

1012
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: cousin's a huge Purdue booster, you know, et cetera. But

1013
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: from an Indiana standpoint, the football and the rise with

1014
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: the football program here, from an interest I see it

1015
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: with my friends, is this now coming at the cost

1016
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: of the interest and the nil money and the the

1017
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: what's the world I'm looking for here? The support of

1018
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: the basketball program as this continues for football at Indiana.

1019
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 10: You're talking about basically like does it get to a

1020
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 10: place where you know, like football is almost siphoning off basketball, correct?

1021
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: Is basketball becoming Is basketball quickly becoming the secondary act?

1022
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that's possible. Now, I think there are

1023
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 10: some philosophical sort of questions to acknowledge. They're not just

1024
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 10: specific to Indiana. For example, you know football is dramatically

1025
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 10: outpacing basketball and popularity in this country. And I think

1026
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 10: part of the reason why you have seen Indiana fans

1027
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 10: take football so quickly to to sort of their parts

1028
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 10: these last two seasons is just because the climate is

1029
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 10: right for some for to kind of hand a fan

1030
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 10: base a newly successful.

1031
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: In and Zach listen, I want to weigh in on

1032
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: that because I did a whole segment the other day

1033
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: about this and I have no idea why I feel

1034
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: this way, but it seems to me. And it's not

1035
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: because I live in Indiana, and it's not because I

1036
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: went to Indiana and talked about Indiana. But it feels

1037
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: to me like there is this passing ships in the

1038
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: night of the sports fan interest and passion about college

1039
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: football in this country going in one direction and rising

1040
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: quickly before our very eyes. And college basketball and it's

1041
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: blue bloods, the Kentucky's, the Kansas Is, the Louisville's, the Dukes,

1042
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: all going through this weird transitional era that is hurting

1043
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: the overall regular season interest level of college basketball. Am

1044
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: I wrong?

1045
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 10: No?

1046
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 6: I think that's fair.

1047
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 10: That was kind of the other thing I was going

1048
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 10: to get to, which is that I think that where,

1049
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 10: and lord knows, it's far from perfect, but where this

1050
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 10: intersection of rev new sharing and NIL and the portal

1051
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 10: has almost you know, given college football this this sort

1052
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 10: of NFL draft and free agency kind of you know,

1053
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 10: off season electricity. I know it doesn't happen dur any offseason,

1054
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 10: but we've almost kind of we've built a mill a

1055
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 10: media industrial complex around covering that the same way that

1056
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 10: we do the draft, the same way that we do

1057
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 10: free agency. I don't think, well, I will be the

1058
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 10: first to acknowledge that the portal and all that at

1059
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 10: least keeps college basketball in sort of the public consciousness

1060
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 10: for another six to eight weeks a year. I don't

1061
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 10: think that necessarily that has been good for the college

1062
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 10: basketball product in the way that it has been accepted

1063
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 10: as good for the college football product. And that may

1064
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 10: be a little bit of confirmation biased like if you

1065
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 10: just if you just like football more than basketball as

1066
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 10: a sports watching population, then you're gonna like the stuff

1067
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 10: that comes with football off the field more than you're

1068
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 10: going to like the stuff that comes with basketball at

1069
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 10: the court. But I think that where I don't think

1070
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 10: I have seen and I don't know if this is

1071
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 10: a large numbers thing. I don't know if this is

1072
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 10: just a this is really just like a philothophical shift

1073
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 10: between the two sports. But I think there has been

1074
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 10: a lot less sort of revulsion and rejection at the

1075
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 10: idea of the portal and roster turnover in football than

1076
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 10: there has been a basketball And it could be, like

1077
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 10: I said, it could be a numbers thing where you

1078
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 10: can bring in twenty five new guys thirty five new

1079
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 10: guys every year and there will still be fifty players

1080
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 10: on your team that were there the year before. In

1081
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 10: football that you recognize that you've cheered for, that your

1082
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 10: kids met at pep rally event or whatever. But you

1083
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 10: turn over nine guys on a basketball roster, even seven

1084
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 10: guys on a basketball roster, and suddenly the whole thing

1085
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 10: seems different. So that might be part of it.

1086
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: I mean, there's something to Zach no doubt when you're like, now, now,

1087
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: is that the Elon guy or is that the DePaul guy?

1088
01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: I forget you know what I mean? And you do

1089
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: get into that, sure.

1090
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 10: Yeah, and listen, Indiana is also in this moment at

1091
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 10: you know, I'm hesitant to use Indiana as too much

1092
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 10: of a sort of like trend setter, because Indiana is

1093
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 10: kind of at the extreme ends of this right now.

1094
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 10: On the football side, it is realizing success that it

1095
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 10: has never known. That that is just historic, beyond what

1096
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 10: would have been previously considered possible. And on the basketball side,

1097
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 10: it's the first year of a new coach who turned

1098
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 10: over his entire roster, his entire staff. It's possible that

1099
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 10: these things equal out a little bit in two to

1100
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 10: three years, that sort of water finds its level, and

1101
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 10: we don't we don't look at these two sort of

1102
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 10: programs of being quite the extremes they are right now.

1103
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 10: But the last thing I would say to your point,

1104
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 10: everyone knows this basketball is not the currency that is

1105
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 10: that is going to spind your way into safety in

1106
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 10: college sports in the future. That you know, every one

1107
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 10: knows there is another round of consolidation coming probably in

1108
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 10: the next five to eight years once a lot of

1109
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 10: these TV deals start to be renegotiated at the start

1110
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 10: of the next decade. Football is what's going to keep

1111
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 10: you in the room and the music stops. Football is

1112
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 10: what's going to make sure that you have a chair

1113
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 10: to sit in. Basketball is something like one tenth of

1114
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 10: like the media rights equation here, Football is like, you know,

1115
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 10: eight point nine.

1116
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: It's why during conference realignment nobody cared where Kentucky and

1117
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: Kansas ended up exactly.

1118
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 10: And so there is also that I think fans not

1119
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,919
Speaker 10: that this is good for the sport. I'm not saying

1120
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,479
Speaker 10: that something that should be celebrated, but I think even

1121
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 10: fans have come to sort of recognize and support the

1122
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 10: idea that if you have the opportunity to be good

1123
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 10: at football right now, that's something you've got to go

1124
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 10: all in on. Now there's again, like you said, we

1125
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 10: could talk ourselves blue in the face about all of this.

1126
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 10: There are some other changes that I suspect are going

1127
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 10: to happen in the revshare in NIL states in the

1128
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 10: next few years, next couple of years, maybe that that

1129
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 10: are going to make it a little bit easier for

1130
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:16,959
Speaker 10: athletics departments to fund both of these sports. A little

1131
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 10: bit more fully. In particular, I think you're I think

1132
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 10: there's a decent chance you're going to see UH schools

1133
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 10: allowed to add scholarships in non revenue sports without that

1134
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 10: counting against the revshare camp, and then basically all the

1135
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 10: revshare money would just buy a large go to basketball

1136
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 10: and football. But it is, you know, listen, it is.

1137
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 10: I think it is possible at once to say Indiana

1138
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 10: is a bit of an extreme case right now, and

1139
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 10: that using Indiana as sort of the Canarian the coal

1140
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 10: mine is probably a little bit dangerous, while also acknowledging

1141
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 10: that Indiana undeniably reflects the wider sort of trend in

1142
01:05:54,080 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 10: college athletics, which is that football in financial, competitive, political,

1143
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 10: coal and cultural importance is dramatically outfacing basketball, and there's

1144
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 10: not really an end insight on that.

1145
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: By the way, Canary and the coal Mine is a

1146
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: great song by the Police. I've never really understood what

1147
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 1: the term means. Do you know what the term means?

1148
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 10: Coal Miners used to bring canaries with them into the

1149
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 10: mines before we had carbon monoxide detection equipment, because this

1150
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 10: was always my understanding of the phrase anyway, because the

1151
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 10: canary would succumb to carbon monoxide poisoning much more quickly

1152
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 10: than a human would, and if the canary passed out

1153
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 10: or died, then the coal miners would know that there

1154
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 10: was a carbon monoxide lead somewhere and they needed to

1155
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 10: get out of the mine.

1156
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 1: That seems you know, unfair, right it does? Yeah, Okay,

1157
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: that makes it. I don't know why the canary though, Like,

1158
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 1: why not? You know, I mean, there canaries seem like

1159
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: nice birds. Didn't do anything to anybody, good singers, right,

1160
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there's a lot to like about

1161
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 1: a canary, you know, why not a blue jay? They're

1162
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: very aggressive birds. They they're you know, they can be

1163
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 1: a bit of a pest so to speak.

1164
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 6: You know.

1165
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I think it was. I think it

1166
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 10: was the ease of use of getting a scenario into

1167
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 10: a cage and bringing it.

1168
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 6: Down into the months.

1169
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: Just one in your local pet store, get a canary. Well,

1170
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that that frank guy that wears that

1171
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: that little light on his head, he's in here getting

1172
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: canaries four or five times a week. What's up with

1173
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: that guy? He better have a newspaper subscription. That guy's

1174
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 1: got a lot of birds.

1175
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 11: Okay.

1176
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 1: Lastly, what is Indiana Zach real quick. You know, as

1177
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 1: Indiana gets set now to go out to Pasadena, has

1178
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti handled his I know that he said, you know,

1179
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 1: I got to get these guys humbled and and you

1180
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 1: know the phrase that he uses right hard wore humble.

1181
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 1: Is their schedule changed at all? Have they gone about

1182
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: have they Have they backed off a little bit to

1183
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: get rested? Have they gone full bore? Are they simply

1184
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 1: waiting to see who they're gonna play? What's been the

1185
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 1: schedule for Indiana football.

1186
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, so they just kind of fire back up this week.

1187
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 10: They got some time off kind of in the immediate

1188
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 10: aftermath as a Big Ten championship game, which was always

1189
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 10: the plan. You know, Signetti kind of I think outlined

1190
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 10: with us even before the game against Ohio State basically

1191
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 10: that it would it would sort of be a like

1192
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 10: immediately following everyone would get some rest. There'd be a

1193
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 10: lot of focus on, you know, getting guys healthy, getting

1194
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 10: guys as fresh as possible, getting treatment into players who's

1195
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 10: maybe been playing with injuries and different things like that.

1196
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 10: This week is the week that they were kind of

1197
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 10: going to get back to work. You know that that

1198
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 10: Signetti has said he and his staff were kind of

1199
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 10: going to be balancing between self scout and then some

1200
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 10: Oklahoma from Alabama. We've heard individual players, including Fernana Mendoza,

1201
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 10: kind of talk about how they probably watched a little

1202
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 10: bit of both teams. But typically, you know, as with

1203
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 10: a lot of Bowl prep, you do spend a little

1204
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 10: bit of time focusing on yourself. You spend a little

1205
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 10: bit of time sort of saying, Okay, let's go back

1206
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 10: some things that we weren't able to work on and

1207
01:08:56,080 --> 01:09:00,719
Speaker 10: the sort of meat grinder of the season. Let's maybe

1208
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 10: clean up some fundamental things that we saw really develop

1209
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 10: over the last months. Again, let's try to get some

1210
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,560
Speaker 10: guys healthy. And then I think you're really going to

1211
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 10: see Indiana beginning to prepare in earnest once it knows

1212
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 10: obviously it's opponent. The only thing that I think is

1213
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 10: it's probably different from like the old sort of standard

1214
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 10: Bowl practice set up is that you ended you used

1215
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 10: to use your Bowl practices as almost a like a

1216
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 10: second spring seasonally, and you would you would give your

1217
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 10: young players. Yeah, exactly, I think that that that's probably gone.

1218
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 10: Now you have to spend more of this time on

1219
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:39,679
Speaker 10: the guys that are going to be on the field,

1220
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 10: because you know, listen, you know you're basically entering almost

1221
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,679
Speaker 10: like a season onto itself. Now, if if Indiana wins

1222
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 10: this game, they'll turn around and have one week to

1223
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 10: prepare for whoever they play in the Beach Bowl. And

1224
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 10: if they win that game, they'll have a little bit

1225
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 10: more time to prepare for the national title. But like it,

1226
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 10: once you get back into that rhythm, there's not going

1227
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 10: to be time to sort of break back out of

1228
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,480
Speaker 10: it and you know, get a little bit more fundamental

1229
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 10: or philosophical again. So I think that's the only thing

1230
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 10: that's really changed now from the old ball prep is

1231
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 10: that your younger players, the ones that aren't necessarily going

1232
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 10: to be involved in these games, probably aren't getting as

1233
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 10: much sort of quality on field time as if. Coach

1234
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 10: you used to almost look at bull prep as like

1235
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 10: you've got a second spring season. Now I think it

1236
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 10: is much more about whether you have to buy or

1237
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 10: you don't. The playoff is we are intensely focused on

1238
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 10: us here now and getting ready for whatever now.

1239
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: I have been in bowl seasons since September of nineteen

1240
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: seventy two because it was at that time I began

1241
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 1: focusing on myself.

1242
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 3: And I've never stopped. I'm not going to lie to

1243
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:40,919
Speaker 3: you about.

1244
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 1: That, said Zach Ostraman Osterman from the Indianapolis Star Indiana

1245
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: football basketball as well. Again, Hoo's yours on the basketball

1246
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: side of things taking on Chicago State. That game is tomorrow.

1247
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 1: You can hear on our sister station WIBC. Zach appreciate

1248
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 1: the time as always on the Joba House peel of

1249
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 1: poor guest line.

1250
01:10:58,479 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 10: Absolutely thanks for having me.

1251
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:04,480
Speaker 1: Now, Zach was talking about balance, right, things be balanced,

1252
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 1: and I hear all the time we're imbalanced. Our coverage

1253
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 1: is imbalanced. Guess what not this time? Because you talked

1254
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: about Purdue. I mentioned Purdue taking on Auburn Big One

1255
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 1: Saturday six thirty. Voice of the Boilers Rob Blackman. Next,

1256
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, this is one day Sting was recording and

1257
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 1: then he had himself one of the Wrangular Energy drinks

1258
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: from Java House. Got a little extra step song, got

1259
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 1: a little faster, great song, Jake.

1260
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 5: What do you think would happen if you just took

1261
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,719
Speaker 5: the shot of the pod of the Monster Energy instead

1262
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 5: of adding it to the water be.

1263
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 1: A little sweet. I mean, I think any way that

1264
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 1: you were to do it any of the pods from

1265
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 1: Java House would be outstanding, but you mix them with

1266
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 1: the water I did yesterday. I you know, I told

1267
01:11:56,200 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 1: you exactly how it works, right, did you? By the way,

1268
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 1: I don't know what's what's happening? Are are you launching

1269
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 1: a rocket in there? What's going what's going on?

1270
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 8: Do we know?

1271
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,679
Speaker 1: Is everything okay? All of a sudden, All of a sudden,

1272
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 1: I just heard it sounded like the sound I was

1273
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:15,600
Speaker 1: making yesterday with an actual coffee maker. Before you just

1274
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: take the pot and you put in the water. There's

1275
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:18,799
Speaker 1: your instant beverage.

1276
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 7: Right.

1277
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 3: It appears there's some construction right outside the building.

1278
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 4: I know he.

1279
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:26,799
Speaker 3: Just has the steps finished.

1280
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 1: I understand, but have you checked to make sure that

1281
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,560
Speaker 1: guy's not actually coming in the window. I don't know

1282
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: if that went out over the radio or not, but

1283
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 1: for a split second there, it was a little bit disconcerting.

1284
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 1: I saw the look on your face, and Eddie, who who?

1285
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you, Eddie, for most of

1286
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 1: today's been one aspiren from a coma. But all of

1287
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 1: a sudden, the canary in the coal mine of the

1288
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 1: sound of a buzz saw outside, and Eddie jumped up

1289
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 1: like I've never seen before.

1290
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 1: That was like you coming out of the catcher stance

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Speaker 1: and somebody's trying to get the second.

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Speaker 5: I will also say this, I love this new studio

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Speaker 5: in here for me because it gives me the.

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Speaker 3: Ability to actually stand up more.

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Speaker 1: It's great.

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Speaker 3: Previous I was just you know, stuck to the grounds.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've done a state of the art job,

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Speaker 1: have our engineers and putting this stuff together for us.

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Speaker 1: Joining us now on the job of house Peel and

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Speaker 1: port guest line. He is the radio voice of the

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Speaker 1: Purdue boiler Makers. Purdue with a big one against Auburn

1303
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Speaker 1: coming up. As it can seem it seems, Rob Blackman,

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Speaker 1: I think you'd agreed with me on this. It seems

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Speaker 1: like the produced schedule. Literally every single time you turn around,

1306
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Speaker 1: it's a different ranked team staring in the face.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 4: I would also give a tip of the cap to

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Speaker 4: Auburn as well, who's going to be their fourth top

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Speaker 4: ten team. They've played already this year. They this will

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Speaker 4: be their twelfth game and for the twelve have been

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Speaker 4: to the top ten. So you have two teams that

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Speaker 4: have not been bashful about the scheduling high level competition,

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Speaker 4: and you know some of that stuff like old for instance,

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Speaker 4: when Purdue played in the Bahamas. You know, you don't

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Speaker 4: have any real control over that. Whoever makes the tournament

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Speaker 4: push together the schedule. So the fact you got Texas

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Speaker 4: Tech certainly helped, but there's no way knowing going into it.

1319
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Speaker 4: But yeah, the least as far as the games that

1320
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Speaker 4: produce has been able to schedule at their own position.

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Speaker 4: Matt Painter, as he's been doing the last five, six,

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Speaker 4: seven years. I've done everything in its power to make

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Speaker 4: sure you put together quality schedule and hopefully put enough

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Speaker 4: good teams on there to get you ready for the

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Speaker 4: Big ten portion of the season.

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Speaker 1: Okay, when you mentioned top ten games and robins the

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Speaker 1: first time, you know, I realized that there have been

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Speaker 1: games since then, two of them as a matter of fact.

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Speaker 1: But I want to go back to this. One of

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Speaker 1: the advantages of scheduling yourself and challenging yourself via schedule

1331
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Speaker 1: is you know, you could learn things or take away

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Speaker 1: things for the regular season. That's really what it's all about.

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Speaker 1: But Iowa State came in. It is the largest margin

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Speaker 1: of victory on the road between two Top ten teams

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Speaker 1: out of conference, I believe in college basketball history with

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Speaker 1: what Iowa State was able to do to completely control Purdue,

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Speaker 1: did they expose anything of purduing that game?

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Speaker 6: Boy, good question.

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01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 4: I think the only thing, the one thing they exposed

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Speaker 4: at least answered a question for Purdue that Perdue wasn't

1341
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 4: quite sure of the answer. And now they know it

1342
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Speaker 4: is that Purdue's big three Brayden and Fletcher and Trey

1343
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 4: Kaufman Wan cannot have a mediocre to bad day all

1344
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Speaker 4: on the same day, not against quality opponent, at least

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Speaker 4: not right now. Matt Painter has said as much. As

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Speaker 4: a matter of fact, he talked about that earlier this week.

1347
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Speaker 4: I recorded a podcast with him and he was talking

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Speaker 4: about that. When you look at Purdue and where they

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Speaker 4: are right now, this very second December or whatever it's nineteenth,

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Speaker 4: I guess December nineteenth. Purdue is not good enough right

1351
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,639
Speaker 4: now to survive a day when all three, when you're

1352
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Speaker 4: big three, have mediocre to poor days, which is what

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Speaker 4: happened that day.

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Speaker 6: And look, we're going to be truthful here. It was

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Speaker 6: really just one bad half.

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Speaker 4: You know, Purdue was down four in the first half,

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Speaker 4: and as actually we're doing Okay, it was just the second.

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Speaker 6: Half got awfully ugly there for Purdue.

1359
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Speaker 4: But so that's probably the one the answer that came

1360
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Speaker 4: out of that that you were kind of thinking, well,

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure about this.

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Speaker 6: Well now you know. Now you know.

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Speaker 4: And as Matt Painter you mentioned earlier in the week

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Speaker 4: when I talked to him. So now the goal is

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Speaker 4: the trick is what do we need to do to

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Speaker 4: put ourselves in a position where, if indeed that would

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Speaker 4: happen again, say, somewhere in the Big ten schedule, can

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Speaker 4: we find a way to win, because right now not

1369
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 4: good enough to do that. If you can work your

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Speaker 4: way towards being able to do that when the Big

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Speaker 4: three are playing well on the same day and still

1372
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Speaker 4: find a way to win, and then you've really made

1373
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Speaker 4: some progress. But that's the one thing to me I

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Speaker 4: think that came out of that game.

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Speaker 1: Rob. Every once in a while, and I know this

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Speaker 1: will shock you, Rob Blackman, our guest job, a house

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Speaker 1: peel and poor guest line. Every once in a while

1378
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Speaker 1: I come up with terms to allow my brain to

1379
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Speaker 1: illustrate things. And then I realized that I'm the only

1380
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Speaker 1: one that understands the term. Okay, so let me give

1381
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 1: you a term and then I'm going to explain it

1382
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Speaker 1: to you. Okay, I call it that Darren the Darren

1383
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 1: Hancock phenomenon. Now I'm assuming that you are unfamiliar with

1384
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Speaker 1: the name Darren Hancock.

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Speaker 6: Correct, I am unfamiliar.

1386
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Speaker 1: Okay, it is not Herbie Hancock that was rocket, but

1387
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Speaker 1: Darren Hancock was a When I was at the University

1388
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:17,679
Speaker 1: of Kansas a billion years ago and KU was really good,

1389
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Speaker 1: and the big buzz was they had signed the number

1390
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Speaker 1: one transfer in the country, Darren Hancock, that was a

1391
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Speaker 1: high fly in twenty plus point per game score out

1392
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Speaker 1: of junior college, and he was going to be the

1393
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Speaker 1: final piece for KU. And he got there, and while

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01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 1: Kansas was good, he just never found footing and never

1395
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Speaker 1: as good as he was, he wasn't good for them.

1396
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Speaker 1: It just didn't work, Okay. And you see that a

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Speaker 1: lot with transfers that are upperclassmen, because they already have

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01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 1: set in their ways kind of the style in which

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Speaker 1: they play. And I was curious as to whether or

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Speaker 1: not Oscar Kluff would be a Darren Hancock phenomenon, and

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Speaker 1: it seems to be the complete opposite. Is this as

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01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 1: good an acclamation for a guy as you have seen

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01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 1: on Purdue rosters.

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01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 4: Well, I would put it in the argument with Lance

1405
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 4: Jones if we're just talking grad transfers for one year.

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01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 6: I think getting Purdue fan would.

1407
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 4: Admit Lance Jones was the missing peach that got Purdue

1408
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 4: to the Final Four. Even though he was the worst

1409
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 4: three point shooter on the team, if you just go

1410
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 4: percentages as far as the guys that were shooting the

1411
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 4: most of them. Even though his turnover numbers were way

1412
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:33,719
Speaker 4: too high, he still was the missing piece that Purdue

1413
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 4: needed from his effort on the defensive end and the

1414
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 4: fact that he could hit.

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Speaker 6: The big shot.

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01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 4: You never knew when it was coming, but he could

1417
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 4: do it. So I would put those two in that

1418
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 4: same argument. I have to tell you, Jake, he was

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01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 4: of course, last spring was so crazy you had because

1420
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Speaker 4: the transfer portal had opened up. Purdue was in Indianapolis

1421
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 4: getting ready to play in Sweet sixteen. So you know, look,

1422
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 4: this wasn't immune the just lose. I should say it

1423
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 4: is Purdue coaches, but anyone who is still in the

1424
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 4: Sweet sixteen was in this predicament. If you're trying to

1425
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:08,639
Speaker 4: coach your team and get ready to try to advance

1426
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 4: in the NCAA tournament, but the transfer portal windows open,

1427
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 4: so you're also trying to make your team better for

1428
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 4: next year. So you have all these different things on

1429
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 4: your plate. And I'm telling you this story because I

1430
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 4: can promise you spending enough time with the Purdue coaches

1431
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 4: in downtown Indy last year prepping for that Houston Sweet

1432
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 4: sixteen game, there was a whole lot of discussion about

1433
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 4: Oscar Cluck is the guy we absolutely have to have.

1434
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 4: You know, you said, okay, you can get one guy

1435
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:35,679
Speaker 4: from the portal, but you have to sell your soul

1436
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 4: to the devil. It would have been Oscar club that.

1437
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 4: It's how sold they were on what they thought he

1438
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 4: could bring to this team, sure enough that these do

1439
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 4: the first eleven games he has done just that. I

1440
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:49,640
Speaker 4: mean he's the number one field goal percent percentage to

1441
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 4: make seventy five percent. I mean he doesn't take bad shots.

1442
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 4: He takes shots he knows he can make. And that's

1443
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 4: why averaging twelve points a game. It's one thing if

1444
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 4: you're averaging two points a game, right, but he's averaging

1445
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 4: twelve points, it's a game. Shooting seventy five percent, he's

1446
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 4: a good pre throw shooter eighty one percent house shooter,

1447
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 4: and he leaves the country in offensive rebounding percentage. So

1448
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 4: everything for due needed in the portal they got. And yes,

1449
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 4: you never know when you know you're talking about your

1450
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 4: guy Hancock. You never know when you bring those guys in.

1451
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 4: You're watching one film as much as you can that

1452
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 4: you know, the coaches do their their due diligence, They

1453
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 4: talk to other coaches or the players whatever in DA scouts,

1454
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 4: all these guys that big trust, but you never really know.

1455
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 4: But the fact that Oscar Cluff has yes acclimated himself

1456
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:33,600
Speaker 4: not only just to be a good player, but apparently

1457
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:37,560
Speaker 4: it seems to have have plugged every single hole that

1458
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 4: needed plugged to have an elite team again. This year

1459
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 4: has had a come story.

1460
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 1: And I don't mean this to be on the negative

1461
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 1: side of it, rob, but I'm curious, has the reliability

1462
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 1: and the just the minutes that Kluff is giving them

1463
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 1: has that come at the cost of anything else? In

1464
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 1: other words, maybe taking away a little bit from the

1465
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 1: establishment offensive have Trey Kaufman Wren who has still been

1466
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 1: very very good, or the growth of Daniel Jacobson, or

1467
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 1: is it really the perfect balance kind of across all three.

1468
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the perfect balance, And especially with Trey

1469
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 4: Kaufman wren his scoring numbers are down, but that's actually

1470
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 4: a good thing for Purdue. You know, Trey last year

1471
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 4: averaged twenty points six points a game that was top

1472
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 4: ten in the country. He's down to thirteen points a

1473
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 4: game this year. The reason Purdue has another viable option

1474
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 4: in the low post, actually two of them, and Jacobson

1475
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 4: and Kluff. So last year when Purdue through the ball inside,

1476
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 4: they were throwing it to one guy. Let's all be

1477
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 4: very quite host throwing it to one guy, Trey Kaufman Wrenn.

1478
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:36,640
Speaker 7: That's it.

1479
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 4: Now you have three guys that you feel comfortable throwing

1480
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 4: the ball to in the low cost. The other thing

1481
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 4: that's really helped Trey with is is rebounding. You know,

1482
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 4: last year, Trey always had to go against the bigger

1483
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 4: centers in the league, so his rebounding numbers weren't great

1484
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 4: six and a half or so a game. This year,

1485
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 4: there you know, he's a ten point four rebounds a game,

1486
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 4: which is top ten in the country, mainly because now

1487
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 4: he gets to rebounding against guys his size. The other

1488
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 4: four is the other power forward, So it's really helped

1489
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 4: Trey's game. Again, if you're just looking across the board

1490
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 4: statistically and you look at points only, you're like, yeah,

1491
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:10,680
Speaker 4: is Trey taking a step back. I don't think he's

1492
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 4: saying a step back at all. He's actually flourished from

1493
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 4: the fact that now he has a guy down there

1494
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 4: on Oscar Cluff And look, this is not Zach Edy. Like, Okay,

1495
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 4: I don't want to I think I made a mistake

1496
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,600
Speaker 4: earlier talking to some posts. I said, oh, you know,

1497
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 4: you know Zach Edy. It was similar numbers when Zach

1498
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 4: Edy was playing per Tray. No, Oscar Cluff is not

1499
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 4: Zach Edy. Making no mistake about that. However, there are

1500
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 4: enough similarities there that have at least allows Trey to

1501
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:38,759
Speaker 4: play his own natural position and really relish in that position.

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01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 4: So yeah, well the scoring numbers might be down, I

1503
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 4: think as a whole, if you're just looking at the

1504
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 4: team as a whole, it's actually been better for this

1505
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 4: whole team. And Trey Kaufman ran himself.

1506
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:52,679
Speaker 1: I just think Trey Kaufman wran this year, Caleb first

1507
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:57,600
Speaker 1: before him. If you are a fan of college basketball,

1508
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:02,599
Speaker 1: if you were a fan of doing things the right way.

1509
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: If you are a fan of selflessness and team concept

1510
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: in what has become fewer, and if you're a fan

1511
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 1: of Indiana football and you like the fact that it

1512
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 1: is players that are doing what their coach needs as

1513
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 1: opposed to what their resume needs, then you should be

1514
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 1: a fan of pretty basketball because Trey Kaffman wren and

1515
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 1: that sacrifice of yeah, I'm going to lose forty percent

1516
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:28,719
Speaker 1: of my scoring, but it's what's best for my team.

1517
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 1: Caleb First, Yeah, I'm going to go from being a starter,

1518
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: but I'm going to go to med school and I'm

1519
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 1: going to do what needs to be done. It's what's

1520
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 1: best for my team. And these guys coming back and

1521
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: sticking with it, Rob, I just think it is a

1522
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 1: blueprint in college basketball that literally everybody in this country

1523
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 1: that likes sports should admire. And I think that that

1524
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: absolutely exemplifies it well.

1525
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 4: And I love to tell a story of Trey Common Wrenn.

1526
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 4: The reason he's a fifty of your players because he

1527
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 4: voluntarily took a red shirt as a freshman.

1528
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 6: I mean, think about that.

1529
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 4: He was the Gatorade Player of the Year in the

1530
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 4: state of Indiana. Okay, we're not We're not talking about

1531
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:08,679
Speaker 4: you know, Hawaii, no offense to Hawaii high school bass.

1532
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 6: We're talking to Indiana, dude.

1533
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 4: And he voluntarily took a red shirt because he knew

1534
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 4: it would be best for his for his long term

1535
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 4: career as a college player. So yeah, that's a guy

1536
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:21,639
Speaker 4: that has it all together.

1537
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 6: And I'm with you, man.

1538
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 4: I watched that Heisman acceptance speech from Fernando Mendoza, and

1539
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 4: I was like, Rodert, What a great dude, What an

1540
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 4: absolutely great not only college athlete, but just great human beings.

1541
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 1: Just ambassador, right.

1542
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:39,719
Speaker 4: Absolutely, what a great ambassador for Indiana University.

1543
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:40,760
Speaker 6: Forget the football part.

1544
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 4: Uh, but Trey very similar for Purdue. And you know

1545
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 4: you mentioned Caleb first and others. Yes, isn't it refreshing

1546
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:47,679
Speaker 4: as a fan?

1547
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 10: Uh?

1548
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,799
Speaker 4: To see these young people that put the team first,

1549
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 4: the team goals ahead of their individual accolades, and then

1550
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 4: and they're smart enough to know. Obviously, I don't can't

1551
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 4: speak for Mendoza, and I can't speak for Craik coffin Rin,

1552
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 4: but I can only assume they're smart enough to know

1553
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 4: if I'm on a really really good team, right, and

1554
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 4: I'm a really really good player, I'm going to get.

1555
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 1: My I'm gonna get my shot right Yeah.

1556
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 6: Absolutely, that's all it comes down to. I don't have

1557
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 6: to have average twenty a game here.

1558
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 4: I can average thirteen and ten on the sixth range

1559
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 4: team in the country, and I'm still going to get

1560
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 4: the attention that I need.

1561
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 1: Do you know the best thing about being the Gatorade

1562
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 1: Player of the Year in Hawaii?

1563
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 7: Oh?

1564
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:28,640
Speaker 6: My goodness, No, no, I do not.

1565
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 1: You're in Hawaii.

1566
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 6: Right there, man, true.

1567
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 1: Like, also, there's a kid right now. There's a kid

1568
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 1: right now in Hawaii that's sipping his Gatorade out of

1569
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 1: an iced tea glass and he's like, really, seventy five

1570
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 1: and Sonny out here, big boy? Are things out there?

1571
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 6: Yes?

1572
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 1: You know I'm saying. I mean, unless it's Greg Brady

1573
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 1: trying to take some surfing waves, things are pretty good

1574
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 1: in Hawaii, you know. I mean, don't kid yourself. Rob,

1575
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 1: you know.

1576
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 6: Oh, I'm with you.

1577
01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 4: If it was up to me, you would play in

1578
01:25:59,200 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 4: the Malley Invitation.

1579
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:04,719
Speaker 1: Let's go right, yep. But it is Auburn perduing Auburn

1580
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 1: coming up six point thirty on Saturday. Rob Blackman will

1581
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 1: be on the call. Rob. If we do not talk

1582
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 1: to you have a very very healthy and happy holiday season.

1583
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 4: Man, we'll do Jake, thank you and Merry Christmas to you.

1584
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 4: And yeah, let's chat again some time in the new year.

1585
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 1: All right, sounds good. That is Rob Blackman joining us

1586
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 1: on the Java House Peel and poor guest line we

1587
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 1: come back. There was a story that took place and

1588
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:32,600
Speaker 1: two athletes in this town that seemed to constantly in

1589
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:37,520
Speaker 1: my mind be connected with one another, and an epiphany

1590
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 1: hit me today of another connection between the two. I

1591
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 1: will tell you about that, and Kevin Bowen joins us

1592
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 1: top of the hour. You know, I was thinking about

1593
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 1: that earlier. We need to start designating some new titles

1594
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,679
Speaker 1: for people in the new year, right, and we need

1595
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 1: them to record themselves like that.

1596
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 3: What'll we do with Paul there?

1597
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 1: You know, Paul actually sounds right there like maybe he

1598
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 1: had called in yesterday when we were getting the heal it.

1599
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 1: But that's Paul's natural giddy voice, it is. I was

1600
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,560
Speaker 1: asked a fascinating question earlier today.

1601
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 3: By who who asked you the question?

1602
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 1: A listener texted me, we have listeners at like six

1603
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 1: three one, seven, five two three ninety two eighty eight

1604
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 1: is my cell phone number?

1605
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 6: You know?

1606
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: Every once in a while, I just say, can we

1607
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 1: do a roll call and see if there are people

1608
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: because it is a Friday, and it's a nice day

1609
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 1: outside and people are getting set for the could be

1610
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 1: Christmas shopping, odd week at Christmas shopping for that.

1611
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 5: So if you just tuned in, make sure you download

1612
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 5: the podcast leader for our conversation with or Najoel Ayoks

1613
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 5: And that was yesterday earlier in the week. But Zach Ostman,

1614
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 5: Osterman and Rob BLACKMN so to come, Kevin Bone top

1615
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 5: of the hour.

1616
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 1: H again five to two, three ninety two eighty eight.

1617
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 1: If you want to give me a roll call shout,

1618
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 1: that's cool. But this is a really good question that

1619
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 1: was posed to me. Hey Jake, in listening to the

1620
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 1: conversation about Anthony Richardson and his vision possibly being impaired,

1621
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 1: my question is is there any discussion about a possible

1622
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 1: lawsuit on his behalf against the rubber band company. I'm

1623
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:13,679
Speaker 1: thinking this was a freak accident that could potentially cost

1624
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:19,879
Speaker 1: him millions. I am not a person necessarily of litigation,

1625
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 1: although I do have locked and loaded here my letter

1626
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:26,800
Speaker 1: that several letters going out and getting ready for the

1627
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 1: Why not Indiana infringement by the way, but the it

1628
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 1: created in my mind, My memory went back to this,

1629
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:42,640
Speaker 1: and I don't think that they are connected, but it

1630
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 1: is to me, it was like this epiphany I had

1631
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson to this point of his career as a

1632
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 1: cult is the Jonathan Bender of the Colts. Jonathan Bender

1633
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 1: a play that the Pacers. Of course, going into the

1634
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 1: two thousand season, they traded Antonio Davis. Antonio Davis had

1635
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 1: gone in to Donnie Walsh. He had told them of

1636
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 1: his desire to start, and Donnie always whenever a player

1637
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 1: would request a trade, Donnie would try to facilitate it.

1638
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 1: And Donnie also had a policy that before trading any player,

1639
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 1: he would bring that player in to let him know

1640
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 1: that he was in discussion to be traded. The only

1641
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 1: player he did not do that for was Jalen Rose,

1642
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 1: and I know that Donnie Walsh has always regretted that.

1643
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:44,799
Speaker 1: But and Jalen Rose was part of a trade with

1644
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:48,720
Speaker 1: a higher number of players. Travis Best was involved with that,

1645
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:51,240
Speaker 1: and then they brought back Brad Miller, Ron Mercer, Kevin

1646
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 1: Ollie and run our test. But the Antonio Davis trade,

1647
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:01,759
Speaker 1: when they trade him, they traded him for the draft

1648
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 1: rights to Jonathan Bender, who Toronto had selected and Bender

1649
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:09,679
Speaker 1: and when I say this, people laugh at me every time.

1650
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:13,800
Speaker 1: The Pacers made that trade for Jonathan Bender. A because

1651
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 1: at that time they had a roster that was not

1652
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 1: in need of immediate influx. And b they saw Jonathan

1653
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 1: Bender as a Kevin Durant type player. And this was

1654
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 1: before Kevin Durant, But as they envisioned basketball becoming increasingly positionless,

1655
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 1: they saw Jonathan Bender as one that could play virtually

1656
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 1: any position and they were fascinated by his skill set

1657
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 1: and his versatility and his range at his size. Jonathan

1658
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 1: Bender was star crossed in his career by knee issues

1659
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:55,599
Speaker 1: and consistent injuries that would pop up to the point

1660
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:58,640
Speaker 1: where people got frustrated and started labeling him as a

1661
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:04,639
Speaker 1: bust because it just never got footing here. And Anthony

1662
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 1: Richardson from the time that he has been here has

1663
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:12,800
Speaker 1: been indeed kind of made of glass, and the consistency

1664
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 1: of injury has prohibited him from being able to totally

1665
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 1: show what he could do. But he was drafted here

1666
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:23,680
Speaker 1: inside the top five because of the physical gifts and

1667
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:28,439
Speaker 1: attributes about him that were so intriguing and still are

1668
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 1: and it was not in a Jonathan Bender was a

1669
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 1: short window of time. He was in Peaky in Mississippi.

1670
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 1: He was not a big time recruit. And then he

1671
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 1: has a McDonald's All American Game where he sets the

1672
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 1: record for points in a McDonald's All American Game. And

1673
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 1: he had grown to all of a sudden being this

1674
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 1: freak seven footer that played like he was six'. Five

1675
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 1: And Anthony richardson was not a household. Name he was

1676
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 1: a late developer that all of a sudden became essentially

1677
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 1: This adonnis that played a limited number of games at,

1678
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 1: four but the imagination of what it could be was so.

1679
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 1: Intriguing Jonathan bender's career came to an end because of

1680
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 1: an arthritis in his knees that was attributed to as

1681
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 1: a kid jumping off of the roofs of houses from

1682
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:21,560
Speaker 1: one to the next and climbing trees and jumping out of.

1683
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:23,880
Speaker 1: Them AND i was once In Picky you In mississippi

1684
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:25,679
Speaker 1: and met up with his high school coach who drove

1685
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 1: me around and, said, yeah those stories were absolutely. True

1686
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 1: but When Jonathan bender was retired from THE nba from

1687
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 1: The pacers after a literally a medical settlement for the

1688
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 1: pacers from THE. Nba he himself developed a knee strengthening

1689
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 1: device using a rubber, band and he used household devices

1690
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 1: that still to this. Day Jonathan bender not only did

1691
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 1: it allow him to recapture his career and sign With

1692
01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:01,080
Speaker 1: New york and play for the next at the end

1693
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 1: of his career once his knee had by his own,

1694
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 1: fruition repaired, itself but it was because of a device

1695
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 1: of a rubber stretch band that he was able to do.

1696
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 1: That AND i don't, KNOW i don't believe that that

1697
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:18,080
Speaker 1: is the company That Anthony richardson was. USING i Think

1698
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:23,240
Speaker 1: richardson was using not an altogether one piece, thing but

1699
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 1: simply was rather using a rubber band around an otherwise stationary.

1700
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:31,680
Speaker 1: DEVICE i think that's what. Happened but will there be

1701
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 1: a lawsuit against that, BAND i don't, Know BUT i

1702
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 1: did think it was interesting that in thinking about the

1703
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 1: parallels between those two, players one of which would have

1704
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 1: had the rubber band device that he essentially invented that

1705
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:52,680
Speaker 1: jump started or rejumped his, career and the other of

1706
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:58,400
Speaker 1: which had a freak accident of one of those kinds

1707
01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:03,679
Speaker 1: of devices or idea is that potentially now has stalled

1708
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 1: his career and we'll see whether or not he comes.

1709
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:09,759
Speaker 1: Back the discussion about his vision and what the vision

1710
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 1: might be For Anthony richardson was a big topic. Yesterday

1711
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:14,880
Speaker 1: Kevin bowen was there for all of, that And kevin

1712
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:20,840
Speaker 1: joins us. Next, eddie do you happen to have the

1713
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:28,240
Speaker 1: breaking news? Sounder this Just. DAN i would like for

1714
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 1: you to please welcome and Thank. Stacy stacy with an

1715
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 1: e female, listener thirty Five eddie checking in up to

1716
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 1: thirty Five, now female, listeners did you ever think you'd

1717
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:43,720
Speaker 1: see the? DAY i wonder if her mom's got to

1718
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:52,400
Speaker 1: go it? On, OKAY i think we're done. Here, okay

1719
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 1: well thanks. Everybody Shave me's up, next joining us, now

1720
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:00,160
Speaker 1: And i'm sure thrilled to be doing. So based on

1721
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 1: that little. Interchange he is on The Java House peel

1722
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:04,840
Speaker 1: And poor guest, Line Kevin. Bowen you hear him in

1723
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:07,559
Speaker 1: the mornings and he has been camped out over at

1724
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 1: The Colts complex on this week where it is A.

1725
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:12,760
Speaker 1: Monday so we still got another show before we get

1726
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 1: Into colts game stuff With San. Francisco BUT i want

1727
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:19,759
Speaker 1: to begin with, This. KEVIN i thought, yesterday but, again

1728
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:23,280
Speaker 1: your boots on the, ground you're able to see and

1729
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 1: sometimes you can just tell the temperative things by being

1730
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 1: in the room and seeing people's. Reactions it felt to

1731
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:33,559
Speaker 1: me like there were mixed messages between AND i don't

1732
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 1: mean that maliciously Between Shane stikeen And Anthony richardson as

1733
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:41,639
Speaker 1: to the severity of the eye injury For Anthony richardson

1734
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 1: and the vision moving forward your thoughts by being there

1735
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 1: front and center for.

1736
01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:50,400
Speaker 9: It, yeah AND i think there's definitely been times where

1737
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:53,920
Speaker 9: in pertuiar With. Richardson you, know sometimes you, know maybe

1738
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:55,800
Speaker 9: What shane has said or what the organization has said

1739
01:35:55,840 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 9: is not necessarily been either heard By richardson or or you, know,

1740
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:03,680
Speaker 9: again maybe it sounds a little different to. HIM i

1741
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 9: probably walked away from yesterday as more just player downplaying,

1742
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 9: injury which happens in every. SPORT i don't think it

1743
01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:14,880
Speaker 9: was necessarily you, know the same thing as maybe some

1744
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 9: past mixed.

1745
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:16,559
Speaker 12: MESSAGING i think there's.

1746
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 9: A very real vision impairment, here and he's gonna have,

1747
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:24,679
Speaker 9: to you, KNOW i guess deal with fit for the time.

1748
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:28,800
Speaker 9: Being maybe it gets, better maybe it does, not but

1749
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 9: that's the reality of where he's. At so you, KNOW

1750
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 9: i don't know if you can make a comparison of a,

1751
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 9: whatever a person that wears contacts and then they're asked

1752
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 9: to do some sort of activity or sporting event without

1753
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 9: contacts in and you know how that sort of impairment would.

1754
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 9: Go but, AGAIN i mean HE'S i, mean the retina

1755
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 9: has been. Damaged there is scarring on his eye that

1756
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 9: is causing some blurred.

1757
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 12: Vision it could, heal it might.

1758
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 9: Not we'll see what, happens maybe in the off season

1759
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 9: if another procedure is.

1760
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:54,080
Speaker 12: Needed but.

1761
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:57,719
Speaker 9: You, KNOW i did Think shane's, words if he's going

1762
01:36:57,720 --> 01:36:59,439
Speaker 9: to have to manage it was probably one of the

1763
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 9: more jar comments of the.

1764
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:02,560
Speaker 12: Day you, know it's one thing to manage.

1765
01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 9: A sprained, ankle to manage you, know some level of

1766
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 9: imparavision to getting not to the point where he can't

1767
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 9: drive or can't you, know obviously attempts of practice in.

1768
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:15,639
Speaker 9: Football but, whatever if twenty twenty is you, know not

1769
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:19,080
Speaker 9: necessarily there for, him you, know that's what he's gonna.

1770
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:19,760
Speaker 12: Have to deal, with you, Know.

1771
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:23,599
Speaker 1: Kevin the one of the QUESTIONS i had about, this

1772
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:27,559
Speaker 1: AND i don't, know it was explained a little bit

1773
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:30,040
Speaker 1: yesterday AND i was hoping you might. KNOW i. Don't

1774
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:31,760
Speaker 1: MAYBE i don't think he brought it out to show,

1775
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:35,320
Speaker 1: Everybody BUT i was just talking, about you, know any

1776
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 1: gym you see there are devices now they have. That

1777
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 1: it has basically a plastic you, know round area that

1778
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:45,599
Speaker 1: you put your foot, on and then it has two

1779
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 1: handles with rubber and you pull those out and that

1780
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 1: stretches your leg and your arms both and it's all one.

1781
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:55,400
Speaker 1: Contraption was it something like that that broken? Snapback or

1782
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 1: did he simply have bands that he was using, to,

1783
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:02,280
Speaker 1: like you, know wrap around a post or something and

1784
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:05,680
Speaker 1: the post itself snapped and came back and hit. Him

1785
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:08,200
Speaker 1: or do we? Know the reason? Why is because somebody

1786
01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:11,600
Speaker 1: had asked me if there was a manufacturer or malfunction

1787
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:14,120
Speaker 1: that could be responsible for, this and then you get

1788
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:16,559
Speaker 1: into a whole other, area which sounds, ludicrous but at

1789
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:18,080
Speaker 1: the same TIME i thought was a fair. Question.

1790
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 12: YEAH i, mean he tried to explain it.

1791
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:25,280
Speaker 9: YESTERDAY i don't believe it is the elastic band. ITSELF

1792
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:28,519
Speaker 9: i believe that it's part affiliated with, it some sort

1793
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 9: of whatever bar. Mechanism, AGAIN i don't know that.

1794
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 12: For, sure but that is my assumption with.

1795
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:36,639
Speaker 1: That so it was all one.

1796
01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:40,280
Speaker 9: Contraption, YEAH i, MEAN i don't know if he a blastic,

1797
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 9: band you, know whatever goes on the, bar or you

1798
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 9: know how exactly that. Works BUT i believe that is

1799
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:48,519
Speaker 9: the part that, broke that caused the orbital, fracture which

1800
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:50,960
Speaker 9: caused the trauma in the, eye and which caused the you,

1801
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 9: KNOW i think there was a real period there where

1802
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:56,040
Speaker 9: they thought potentially he could lose his. Vision and you,

1803
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:58,320
Speaker 9: know if Everything i've, gathered it's rather unprecedented for a

1804
01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:00,680
Speaker 9: quarterback to be dealing with and thing like. THIS i,

1805
01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 9: mean you could say many, athletes but in particularly a.

1806
01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:08,400
Speaker 9: QUARTERBACK i guess if you're looking for a little bit of,

1807
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:11,719
Speaker 9: optimism it is the right. Eye so for the right handed,

1808
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 9: QUARTERBACK i think you'd probably if you had obviously it's

1809
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:17,439
Speaker 9: not ideal for, either but you, know blind sidewise would

1810
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 9: be more of your left eye kind of looking over that.

1811
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 3: Shoulder so you.

1812
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:26,679
Speaker 9: Know but, again this is a very gruesome and quite

1813
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:29,400
Speaker 9: the ugly scene when it all unfold the, form and

1814
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 9: like he said, yesterday you, know there's a point in

1815
01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 9: time early in the recovery.

1816
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 12: Process which is now two months.

1817
01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:37,880
Speaker 9: Plus that he thought TODAY i yesterday wouldn't have been,

1818
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 9: possible like him even practicing this, season so clearly he

1819
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:45,439
Speaker 9: has made enough progress with his vision that he is

1820
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:46,120
Speaker 9: able to do.

1821
01:39:46,160 --> 01:39:51,000
Speaker 1: That to, Me Kevin, bowen the easy answer is, This

1822
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 1: AND i know that there's still football to be played this,

1823
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:59,120
Speaker 1: year but it seems almost a foregone conclusion now that

1824
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:03,160
Speaker 1: you simply frame Franchise Daniel, Jones you tag, Him you

1825
01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:05,360
Speaker 1: get him for one more year so that you can

1826
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 1: see where he is without having commitment beyond that. Year

1827
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:11,880
Speaker 1: in other, words you don't sign him right out of

1828
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:13,960
Speaker 1: a four year, deal which they may have been on

1829
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 1: the collision course towards doing or the inevitability towards doing

1830
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:20,000
Speaker 1: Before jones got. Hurt so now you franchise tag him

1831
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:22,240
Speaker 1: and you just see where you, are and maybe you

1832
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 1: have someone else that takes over for the first couple

1833
01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:27,840
Speaker 1: of games before he then gets back out onto the.

1834
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:31,080
Speaker 1: Field in playing, circumstance talking about next, year you think

1835
01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:31,639
Speaker 1: that's a fair.

1836
01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:37,640
Speaker 9: Assessment, well that's an expensive you, know franchise tag If

1837
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 9: Daniel jones isn't going to. PLAY i, mean If i'm not,

1838
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 9: MISTAKEING i think it's north of forty five.

1839
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:44,920
Speaker 1: Million so But it's only one year, though so you're

1840
01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:47,840
Speaker 1: only committing yourself for a, year because wouldn't it be

1841
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:49,800
Speaker 1: more expensive if you gave him a three or four

1842
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:51,760
Speaker 1: year deal and then find out that he is not

1843
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 1: the same.

1844
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 9: Guy, WELL i think guess what The colts gonna have

1845
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:57,519
Speaker 9: to find out here before Mid march is you, know

1846
01:40:57,600 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 9: do you sit down to this team and obviously a

1847
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:01,320
Speaker 9: team's going to want to try and squeeze every, dollar

1848
01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 9: but you, know you sit there and, say, hey you,

1849
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:05,040
Speaker 9: know there's a good chance, whatever he's going to.

1850
01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 12: Be limited some capacity here in twenty twenty.

1851
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 9: Six you know what if we did whatever fifteen million

1852
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 9: this first year and then you, know the second and

1853
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:13,799
Speaker 9: the third year has a little bit.

1854
01:41:13,640 --> 01:41:14,639
Speaker 6: More money on.

1855
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:17,280
Speaker 12: That, now you know, again them saying yes.

1856
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:19,880
Speaker 9: To that is probably a, different you, know answer for.

1857
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:23,120
Speaker 9: You BUT i mean slapping it for Chise tag if

1858
01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:27,240
Speaker 9: you are skeptical about his availability for forty six million

1859
01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:30,760
Speaker 9: dollars for one year just seems really really. RICH i

1860
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:34,400
Speaker 9: get that quarterbacks can create a lot of, leverage but

1861
01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:38,439
Speaker 9: that's a lot. NOW i think internally The colts feel

1862
01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 9: Like Daniel jones is going to be ready and could

1863
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:43,639
Speaker 9: be ready as early As week one now ready and.

1864
01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 12: Playing you, know quality.

1865
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:49,200
Speaker 9: Football probably two different answers, There but like IF i

1866
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:52,160
Speaker 9: were a betting man right, NOW i think The. Colts

1867
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 9: if you ask me how The colts view, IT i

1868
01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 9: THINK i Think Daniel jones would be The week one.

1869
01:41:55,400 --> 01:41:57,720
Speaker 3: Starter Does daniel Does Daniel jones want to be Back?

1870
01:41:57,760 --> 01:41:59,680
Speaker 5: Kevin BECAUSE i go back to, that you know that

1871
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:03,080
Speaker 5: in post teammate and we have to over analyze these

1872
01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 5: things just because we don't get to talk to, athletes

1873
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:07,760
Speaker 5: especially after they suffer. Injuries but WHEN i read, that

1874
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 5: it sounded and looked like a goodbye message to the

1875
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:11,880
Speaker 5: fans and to The colts.

1876
01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:15,160
Speaker 8: PLAYERS i, BOY i.

1877
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:16,519
Speaker 12: Don't i'd have to go back and read.

1878
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 9: IT i. DON'T i don't remember myself reading that much into.

1879
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 9: IT i, mean maybe a goodbye for twenty twenty, five of,

1880
01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:25,880
Speaker 9: Course BUT i MEAN i think if you Were Daniel,

1881
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 9: jones you have to look at the situation here and

1882
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:31,719
Speaker 9: realize on and off the field it helped your career.

1883
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:36,000
Speaker 9: Greatly he doesn't strike me as necessarily the big city.

1884
01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 12: Guy and you, KNOW i Could minnesota.

1885
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:39,720
Speaker 7: Re enter the.

1886
01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:43,439
Speaker 9: PICTURE i, mean they obviously liked him, enough and, uh you,

1887
01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:45,439
Speaker 9: know they did go WITH jj. McCarthy we'll see how

1888
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 9: McCarthy plays, out and you, know they they'll probably go

1889
01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 9: down that path. Again but you, know that could be

1890
01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 9: a team that enters. It BUT i think everything That

1891
01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:55,120
Speaker 9: Shane stiken did for, him absuming it's the same, REGIME

1892
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:57,719
Speaker 9: i would think it would, make you, know certainly sense

1893
01:42:57,720 --> 01:42:59,400
Speaker 9: for The jones camp to want to be.

1894
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 12: Here and he's already made.

1895
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:04,000
Speaker 9: A lot of money in HIS nfl, career not that

1896
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 9: you're just simply trying to go to wherever top dollar is.

1897
01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:10,880
Speaker 9: Everywhere but you, know IF i were, HIM i would, say,

1898
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:13,000
Speaker 9: well the situation worked out pretty well for, me and

1899
01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:14,439
Speaker 9: you know the other one.

1900
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:15,760
Speaker 12: Didn't so you, know.

1901
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:19,200
Speaker 9: Maybe not cutting a, deal but you, know if it's

1902
01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 9: whatever two or three million dollar, difference maybe you're not

1903
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:24,200
Speaker 9: necessarily going to rush to that top dollar right.

1904
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:25,040
Speaker 6: Away you.

1905
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 1: Know the last, Night kevin DID i, ASSUME i mean

1906
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:33,439
Speaker 1: you saw some, of if not, all that last night

1907
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:36,280
Speaker 1: to me between The rams In seattle was the best

1908
01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:41,680
Speaker 1: game so far this season in THE. Nfl agree or, Disagree.

1909
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:42,200
Speaker 12: YEAH i mean it's definitely got to be up.

1910
01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 9: There, yeah just the back and forth, nature either the

1911
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:49,799
Speaker 9: wild two point, conversion you, know the big punt, return

1912
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:50,280
Speaker 9: the big.

1913
01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:52,040
Speaker 12: Comeback obviously the.

1914
01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 9: Wild two point version is should say probably, plurally you,

1915
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:58,200
Speaker 9: know certainly with the backward, pass but also there By

1916
01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:00,840
Speaker 9: mike McDonald to go for. It so, YEAH i Mean

1917
01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:04,000
Speaker 9: stafford And pooka looking like the best quarterback white out

1918
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:06,160
Speaker 9: tandam they've been all. Year, YEAH i mean all of

1919
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 9: the two divisional. Teams you great, Environment, yeah.

1920
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:12,479
Speaker 1: Definitely because you have to the REASON i bring that

1921
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 1: up if you Are Chris, ballard it had to actually

1922
01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:19,360
Speaker 1: make you feel pretty good to an, extent BECAUSE i

1923
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:21,120
Speaker 1: know they didn't beat The, RAMS i get, it BUT

1924
01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:23,439
Speaker 1: i think The rams may well be the best team

1925
01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 1: in the. League and you also have A seattle team

1926
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:32,559
Speaker 1: that you, Know darnald represents to an extent what A

1927
01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:35,800
Speaker 1: Daniel jones could, be Because darnald is a guy that

1928
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:39,080
Speaker 1: was written off by several, places including obviously in the

1929
01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 1: same spot As Daniel jones a year, ago and yet

1930
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:45,639
Speaker 1: once you built around, him he last, NIGHT i thought

1931
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:47,720
Speaker 1: he showed a lot of pocket presence late in that.

1932
01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:50,960
Speaker 1: Game Daniel jones post That eddie had mentioned was thank

1933
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:54,000
Speaker 1: you to my, teammates, coaches The colts, organization and all

1934
01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 1: the fans for the overwhelming. Support tough way to end this,

1935
01:44:57,080 --> 01:44:58,800
Speaker 1: season but it has been an honor to wear the

1936
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:01,880
Speaker 1: horseshoe and play for The. Colts i'll mislighting up with my,

1937
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:04,280
Speaker 1: guys But i'll be riding with them every step of the.

1938
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:07,000
Speaker 1: Way Go. Colts so that sounds like a guy that

1939
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:10,160
Speaker 1: would be open to coming. Back but last NIGHT i

1940
01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:14,040
Speaker 1: just thought that the darnled, situation combined with the rams

1941
01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 1: and the way that they, looked both of those things

1942
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 1: have to Give Chris ballard some good feeling moving. Forward

1943
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:26,720
Speaker 1: question is does that optimism way over and carry over

1944
01:45:26,920 --> 01:45:30,800
Speaker 1: into his boss and the ownership that he has them

1945
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:32,760
Speaker 1: going in the right direction and should be there next.

1946
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:38,880
Speaker 9: Year, YEAH i think it's obviously a great, question and you,

1947
01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:40,639
Speaker 9: KNOW i know it probably sounds like a cop, out

1948
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:42,800
Speaker 9: BUT i think With Carli Orsay, gordon the first answer to,

1949
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:44,599
Speaker 9: be we just don't. KNOW i, mean it's no past

1950
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 9: precedent with her to you, know kind of judge other

1951
01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:51,240
Speaker 9: decisions off that you might have with athletic directors or

1952
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:54,599
Speaker 9: owners or you, know people that are in those sorts

1953
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:58,680
Speaker 9: of authoritative. Roles, NOW i think when they made a

1954
01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:01,640
Speaker 9: trade For, Saft. Gardner every indication, was, well, yeah you

1955
01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 9: don't do that if you don't think everybody's going to be.

1956
01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 9: Back but you, know if you had told me at

1957
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:09,120
Speaker 9: the start of the year, that assuming this trend, continues

1958
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:13,760
Speaker 9: The colts would miss the, PLAYOFFS i would not have

1959
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:16,599
Speaker 9: thought to myself that you would then just run it all.

1960
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:19,320
Speaker 9: Back and it's not like the quarterback position has been.

1961
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:22,519
Speaker 9: SOLVED i, mean, Yes Daniel jones played you, know two

1962
01:46:22,680 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 9: very good months of. Football but, unfortunately you, know the

1963
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:28,680
Speaker 9: most consistent thing That Daniel jones' career so far has

1964
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:30,080
Speaker 9: been season indian, injury.

1965
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 1: And the breaks were starting to whistle a little bit,

1966
01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:33,720
Speaker 1: there weren't, they you know WHAT i? Mean, LIKE i

1967
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:36,519
Speaker 1: know that he was really good through eight, games but

1968
01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:39,080
Speaker 1: he was also starting to show some of those things

1969
01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:40,920
Speaker 1: that you, know fans In New york had to be, like,

1970
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:43,559
Speaker 1: see there's a reason it WAS Tj, Max.

1971
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:46,680
Speaker 12: Right, Yeah, no that is a that is a good

1972
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:47,360
Speaker 12: way to put it as.

1973
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:50,640
Speaker 9: Well so even if you want to ignore that aspect of,

1974
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:53,120
Speaker 9: it WHICH i don't think necessarily you you. Can but

1975
01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:54,519
Speaker 9: if you want to give him what benefit of the

1976
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:56,960
Speaker 9: doubt as a, player there's still is a question of

1977
01:46:57,080 --> 01:47:00,800
Speaker 9: just again overall health and making it through a, season

1978
01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:02,800
Speaker 9: a season when he wasn't hit you know very, much

1979
01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 9: and all.

1980
01:47:04,600 --> 01:47:05,200
Speaker 12: All of those.

1981
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:05,800
Speaker 6: Things so.

1982
01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:09,200
Speaker 9: You, know this is WHERE i just get really torn

1983
01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:10,800
Speaker 9: on it because The gardner trade.

1984
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:11,360
Speaker 12: Is obvious to.

1985
01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 9: Me it's, like, WAIT i, mean, yeah everybody's going to be,

1986
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:17,599
Speaker 9: back BUT i mean if they are to lose and right,

1987
01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:19,680
Speaker 9: now what is it four in a? Row you, know

1988
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:21,439
Speaker 9: it could be. Seven let's say they win one of

1989
01:47:21,439 --> 01:47:23,120
Speaker 9: the last three but missed the. PLAYOFFS i, mean you

1990
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:26,439
Speaker 9: lose six of your last seven When Chris ballard arguably

1991
01:47:26,439 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 9: the thing he was most vocal about at the end

1992
01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:30,559
Speaker 9: of last season was we have to find a way

1993
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:33,400
Speaker 9: to win you, know end of season games. Better you,

1994
01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:36,040
Speaker 9: know on the egregious scale of this, season are there

1995
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:39,320
Speaker 9: others that are above? It, CERTAINLY i don't think of

1996
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:44,600
Speaker 9: the injury situation you can't totally. Ignore but you, know

1997
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:46,360
Speaker 9: at the same, time it's, like just how much longer

1998
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:50,439
Speaker 9: are we going to continue to whatever make excuses run

1999
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:52,920
Speaker 9: it back without tangible? Results you, know seven of the

2000
01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:54,040
Speaker 9: sixteen teams in each.

2001
01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:56,040
Speaker 12: Conference make the. PLAYOFFS i, mean that's that's just about.

2002
01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:56,760
Speaker 8: Half you, know when this.

2003
01:47:56,680 --> 01:48:00,240
Speaker 9: Playoff field, expanded you, know back whatever it was half

2004
01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:03,720
Speaker 9: dozen years. AGO i mean that created almost half of each.

2005
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:06,160
Speaker 9: Conference and now you, know if you don't make it

2006
01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:08,960
Speaker 9: for a fifth straight, year that to me is.

2007
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:12,320
Speaker 12: Jarring but again With, carly we just don't.

2008
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:15,920
Speaker 1: Know Kevin bowen is my guest fan morning. Show of

2009
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:18,280
Speaker 1: course you hear him along With James boyd Jeff rickord

2010
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:22,160
Speaker 1: each and every morning from seven until ten am on

2011
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:25,120
Speaker 1: this radio. Station, kevin before we get to your son's,

2012
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:28,439
Speaker 1: Pick i'm curious of. This first, off is your son

2013
01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:29,840
Speaker 1: does he make? It what do we do on The

2014
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:32,200
Speaker 1: monday with the schedule here in terms of your son's colts?

2015
01:48:32,200 --> 01:48:34,640
Speaker 12: Picks, yeah they're sitting on the counter right. NOW i

2016
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:37,200
Speaker 12: JUST i just took out the forty nine ers, helmet so, yeah.

2017
01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:40,479
Speaker 9: It's sitting there and it we have not made a pick.

2018
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:42,920
Speaker 9: Yet he did pick the. Seahawks he asked if they

2019
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:46,120
Speaker 9: were big or. SMALL i don't know if your anatomy

2020
01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:48,160
Speaker 9: or your zoology brain would have an answer to.

2021
01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:50,280
Speaker 1: That, WELL i told you they're. Ospreys they are rather.

2022
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:53,679
Speaker 1: Large they are basically, hawks but of a water.

2023
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:55,479
Speaker 6: Region oh, yeah that's.

2024
01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 9: Right that's BECAUSE i, said whenever you do you, retire

2025
01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:01,200
Speaker 9: not that you're for The rivers Or Matt, ryan but

2026
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:02,840
Speaker 9: whenever you, do hang it, up you need to go

2027
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:03,160
Speaker 9: work at the.

2028
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:07,600
Speaker 1: Zoo that's. Right our Friend Jersey johnny worked at the.

2029
01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:10,639
Speaker 1: Zoo it's a perfect natural, segue, RIGHT i love.

2030
01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:11,280
Speaker 10: IT i love.

2031
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:14,080
Speaker 1: It, Okay so you'll be making the pick win.

2032
01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:18,040
Speaker 9: WELL i assume probably later later. Today you, know The

2033
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:20,120
Speaker 9: monday game is just kind of weird and in the

2034
01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:21,880
Speaker 9: sense of, it you, know it seems.

2035
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:24,559
Speaker 12: Like you, know we're not we should be, there but

2036
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 12: we're not there. Yet it's a long way To monday.

2037
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:29,360
Speaker 9: NIGHT i believe it's What Hank williams said at one

2038
01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:33,200
Speaker 9: point in. Time so, yes we'll release that this. Weekend

2039
01:49:33,200 --> 01:49:34,920
Speaker 9: he did again when last week he was on a

2040
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:36,200
Speaker 9: bit of a losing. Streak SO i want to say

2041
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:38,360
Speaker 9: he's eight and six on the, year if that's, Right.

2042
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:42,320
Speaker 1: OKAY i mean, That i'll believe. You eight and. SIX i,

2043
01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:44,120
Speaker 1: mean so he's The colts, basically.

2044
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:45,000
Speaker 6: Right he's The.

2045
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:46,599
Speaker 9: Colts now he, hasn't you, know gone with The colts

2046
01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:48,559
Speaker 9: each and every week obviously when it gains to him last,

2047
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:52,479
Speaker 9: week but over time he is better than five. Hundreds

2048
01:49:52,520 --> 01:49:54,559
Speaker 9: so for those out there and in the city of

2049
01:49:54,640 --> 01:49:58,040
Speaker 9: sinn He. Is if you were to Tail Max, bowen

2050
01:49:58,240 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 9: you'd be making some money right.

2051
01:49:59,320 --> 01:50:01,640
Speaker 1: Now, okay, say do you have a garage full of

2052
01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 1: bronze from the stuff you ordered for The Ben matheren?

2053
01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:05,439
Speaker 1: Statue where do things stand with?

2054
01:50:05,479 --> 01:50:10,200
Speaker 9: That, yeah it is a little dusty in, there so,

2055
01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:12,240
Speaker 9: yeah AM i gonna need to ship that to a

2056
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:13,600
Speaker 9: new city here in the next month and a?

2057
01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:14,439
Speaker 8: Half was that?

2058
01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:14,920
Speaker 3: Ship?

2059
01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:18,280
Speaker 1: Yes that was every once in a while that we

2060
01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:19,880
Speaker 1: had a little hiccup in the, Stream but, yes he

2061
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:23,760
Speaker 1: did say ship by the, way so, yes, YEAH i

2062
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:26,000
Speaker 1: do think that is going to be the. Case, ken

2063
01:50:26,040 --> 01:50:27,960
Speaker 1: we talked about it earlier on this. SHOW i do

2064
01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:31,200
Speaker 1: Think Ben matheren really good, player really good, guy kind

2065
01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:35,120
Speaker 1: of a quiet. DUDE i do think probably is going

2066
01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:37,439
Speaker 1: to be playing. Elsewhere but we shall. See that's one

2067
01:50:37,439 --> 01:50:39,320
Speaker 1: of the things that we will look, for all. Right,

2068
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:42,600
Speaker 1: kevin have a wonderful, weekend pleasure as, always and outstanding

2069
01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:46,320
Speaker 1: coverage on The colts as, Well Mary, Christmas the boys appreciate.

2070
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:49,000
Speaker 1: It Kevin bowen joining us on The Java House peel

2071
01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:52,240
Speaker 1: and poor guest. Line before we get to Our franciscan,

2072
01:50:52,280 --> 01:50:54,160
Speaker 1: health feel good good for the heart. STORY i wanted

2073
01:50:54,200 --> 01:50:55,880
Speaker 1: to tell a quick story And i've been meaning to

2074
01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:59,200
Speaker 1: do this all, week been meaning to do this all,

2075
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:03,360
Speaker 1: week and it's something that took place last. WEEKEND i

2076
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:08,120
Speaker 1: believe it was last, weekend BUT i Think, eddie you

2077
01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:11,479
Speaker 1: are aware of my fictional media.

2078
01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:15,720
Speaker 5: Wife Correct Emily, Longnecker, yes, yes so fiction though.

2079
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:18,840
Speaker 1: Right, well, so if you Google Jay query, wife there

2080
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:21,400
Speaker 1: are several pictures that come up of myself With Emily,

2081
01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 1: longnecker and you, know we get a kick out of.

2082
01:51:25,320 --> 01:51:29,200
Speaker 1: That and she's a dear. Friend and let me tell

2083
01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:31,640
Speaker 1: a quick story about what dear friend. Means AND i

2084
01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 1: don't mean for, me but let me tell you something

2085
01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:38,639
Speaker 1: THAT i was fortunate and blessed enough to witness recently

2086
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:43,880
Speaker 1: and where it goes from. There several years, ago And

2087
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:45,559
Speaker 1: emily AND i have been friends for a very long.

2088
01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:49,160
Speaker 1: Time Emily longnecker The State house reporter AT. Wthr And

2089
01:51:49,200 --> 01:51:51,439
Speaker 1: emily grew up in The pennsylvania, area has lived In

2090
01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:54,440
Speaker 1: indianapolis now for twenty plus. Years came here From cincinnati

2091
01:51:55,200 --> 01:51:59,800
Speaker 1: and one Day, emily this was years, Ago emily was

2092
01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:03,200
Speaker 1: on her way home and saw an elderly woman on

2093
01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:06,240
Speaker 1: a bus, stop and the elderly woman Flagged emily, down

2094
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:11,519
Speaker 1: asking for you, Know emily's, attention And, emily you, know

2095
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:14,160
Speaker 1: got there and, said you, know CAN i CAN i help?

2096
01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:18,040
Speaker 1: You and this elderly woman, said, Yes i'm waiting for the,

2097
01:52:18,040 --> 01:52:20,599
Speaker 1: bus BUT i don't feel. WELL i feel very, HOT

2098
01:52:20,640 --> 01:52:22,720
Speaker 1: i feel very, faint AND i don't know THAT i

2099
01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 1: want to wait for the. Bus is there any chance

2100
01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:27,000
Speaker 1: you can give me a ride? Home And emily said absolutely.

2101
01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:31,520
Speaker 1: So Evelyn springs was the woman's, name native Of, alabama

2102
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:33,719
Speaker 1: but had lived In indianapolis for most of her adult.

2103
01:52:33,800 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 1: Life And emily Gave evelyn a ride home and that

2104
01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 1: seemingly was the end of this story until a few

2105
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:45,320
Speaker 1: weeks later When emily was outside and this woman came

2106
01:52:45,400 --> 01:52:49,599
Speaker 1: walking up and, said do you remember? Me And, emily

2107
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:51,120
Speaker 1: you know when when you work IN, TV i, mean

2108
01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:52,680
Speaker 1: you meet a lot of people like, that and so

2109
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:55,320
Speaker 1: she kind of jogging her mind and the woman, Said

2110
01:52:55,560 --> 01:52:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm i'm the one that you gave a ride home

2111
01:52:57,240 --> 01:52:59,080
Speaker 1: to And emily, said, yes of, course you, KNOW i remember.

2112
01:52:59,120 --> 01:53:00,559
Speaker 1: You and she, said, WELL i want to let you

2113
01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:05,680
Speaker 1: know that that day when you took me. HOME i

2114
01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:08,400
Speaker 1: later went to the doctor and found out THAT i

2115
01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:13,120
Speaker 1: was having heart. FAILURE i have heart, failure AND i

2116
01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:16,680
Speaker 1: never was aware of, that and SO i think you

2117
01:53:16,760 --> 01:53:19,519
Speaker 1: might have saved my life BECAUSE i was able to

2118
01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:23,479
Speaker 1: get to the. Doctor and that began a friendship Between

2119
01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:27,720
Speaker 1: evelyn And emily THAT i was fortunate enough to bear

2120
01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:31,960
Speaker 1: witness to and then eventually get involved. With because When

2121
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:33,880
Speaker 1: emily would go out of town or do different, THINGS

2122
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:36,840
Speaker 1: i would get together With evelyn and talk to, her

2123
01:53:36,920 --> 01:53:39,719
Speaker 1: go over you, know when she was in different aspects

2124
01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:43,839
Speaker 1: of her. Journey and a, wonderful wonderful dear woman Was Evelyn.

2125
01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:48,960
Speaker 1: Springs a, wonderful wonderful dear. Woman And emily And evelyn

2126
01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:54,400
Speaker 1: were the definition of loyalty that comes about sometimes when

2127
01:53:54,400 --> 01:53:58,519
Speaker 1: you simply open up your eyes and awareness and awareness

2128
01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:02,800
Speaker 1: of other people and of empathy and. Understanding and they

2129
01:54:02,840 --> 01:54:09,120
Speaker 1: had a very special. Bond And emily Was evelyn's. Family

2130
01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:15,320
Speaker 1: evelyn had. Siblings she had a brother that passed away

2131
01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:18,479
Speaker 1: many many years ago in an automobile, accident and she

2132
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:21,599
Speaker 1: was not survived by any family for quite some. Time

2133
01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:29,240
Speaker 1: So evelyn was, retired did not have, family And emily

2134
01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:32,440
Speaker 1: was really the person that looked after. Her there are,

2135
01:54:32,440 --> 01:54:37,240
Speaker 1: groceries brought Her thanksgiving, dinner and et. Cetera had birthday

2136
01:54:37,280 --> 01:54:39,040
Speaker 1: parties for, her which is also HOW i got to Know.

2137
01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:44,800
Speaker 1: Evelyn evelyn passed away a couple of weeks. Ago emily

2138
01:54:44,840 --> 01:54:48,520
Speaker 1: put together a beautiful and wonderful service to Celebrate evelyn's,

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01:54:48,520 --> 01:54:55,959
Speaker 1: life because everyone should be, celebrated regardless of how small

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01:54:56,200 --> 01:55:01,800
Speaker 1: or nuclear simply those around them. Are we all have

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01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:06,080
Speaker 1: different we all have different levels of the size of

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01:55:06,120 --> 01:55:10,800
Speaker 1: people in our, pool and so it really fell On

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Speaker 1: emily for that. Responsibility and in the true testament of

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01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:18,880
Speaker 1: friendship and loyalty and, Strength emily has done what she

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01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:24,720
Speaker 1: can For. Evelyn but now we are getting ready for

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01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:29,920
Speaker 1: the arrangements For evelyn to be able to be laid

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01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:33,120
Speaker 1: to rest near her mother and her late. Brother but

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Speaker 1: the money aspect of that is such That evelyn did

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01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:40,880
Speaker 1: not have those, means and So emily put together we

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01:55:40,920 --> 01:55:44,280
Speaker 1: are really close to getting it. Done emily put together

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01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:48,160
Speaker 1: a gofund me for, that AND i told her THAT i,

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01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:52,800
Speaker 1: would with, pride as a friend Of evelyn's And emily's as,

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01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:56,560
Speaker 1: well let that be known and publicly put that out.

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Speaker 1: There AND i will put it right now at the

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Speaker 1: very top on the pinned level of my ex post

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Speaker 1: twitter account x dot com Or twitter dot com Slash jake.

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Speaker 1: Query just a couple of, MINUTES i will have that

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Speaker 1: right there in any a single. Dollar it would be,

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Speaker 1: outstanding and it would be greatly, deserved AND i can

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01:56:16,360 --> 01:56:18,800
Speaker 1: greatly appreciate, it AND i can tell you for a

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01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:23,240
Speaker 1: dear woman that absolutely deserved. It evelyn was a, great

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01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:26,080
Speaker 1: great friend To emily and will be missed by the

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01:56:26,080 --> 01:56:28,680
Speaker 1: people that knew her very very. Much and we simply

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01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:31,360
Speaker 1: want to make sure that she is able to be

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Speaker 1: laid next to those that meant the most to her

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01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:37,400
Speaker 1: earlier in her. Life all, right, well come. Back it

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Speaker 1: is A. Friday it Is franciscan, health feel, good good

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Speaker 1: for the Heart. Friday the way THAT i saw the

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Speaker 1: loyalty between those two quite frankly made my heart feel.

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Speaker 1: Good AND i want to talk to you about the

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01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:51,480
Speaker 1: element of heart. Health that might be a word you're familiar,

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01:56:51,560 --> 01:56:54,120
Speaker 1: with but you don't know a lot. About so we

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01:56:54,200 --> 01:56:56,600
Speaker 1: interviewed one of the, doctors Friend, francisco about. That, next

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Speaker 1: it is A. Friday it is the bottom of the.

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01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:02,440
Speaker 1: Hour you know what that. Means it is time for

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01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:05,200
Speaker 1: A Franciscan Health feel, good good for The Heart, friday

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01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:08,080
Speaker 1: and as we have done on a number of occasions with,

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Speaker 1: this we expanded a little bit by having important conversations

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01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:15,000
Speaker 1: THAT i think are not only, informative but, really LIKE i,

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01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:18,680
Speaker 1: said important for. Folks and in Particular i'm example of,

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01:57:18,720 --> 01:57:21,720
Speaker 1: this folks, because as all of you know by, NOW

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01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:24,080
Speaker 1: i had a heart attack and it was so odd

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01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:27,360
Speaker 1: for me after the fact to then have to check

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01:57:27,400 --> 01:57:29,320
Speaker 1: the box that, says you know THAT i have heart,

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01:57:29,400 --> 01:57:31,560
Speaker 1: disease AND i, THOUGHT i don't really have heart. DISEASE

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01:57:31,600 --> 01:57:33,040
Speaker 1: i just had a heart, attack but they are all

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01:57:33,120 --> 01:57:35,320
Speaker 1: kind of, linked AND i wanted to talk about some

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01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:37,560
Speaker 1: of the risk factors that go into that and other such.

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01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:40,000
Speaker 1: Things so joining me now on the guest, Line Doctor

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Speaker 1: Ryan daley is a cardiologist With Franciscan health Again franciscan

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Speaker 1: number one program by health grades when it comes to heart,

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Speaker 1: health number one for interventional coronary care by care, checks

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01:57:50,120 --> 01:57:52,760
Speaker 1: and the forty nine dollars heart skin that we will

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01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:55,400
Speaker 1: get you all the information. For but before all of,

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01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:57,360
Speaker 1: that Doctor, daly let me say thanks for your. Time

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01:57:57,360 --> 01:57:58,800
Speaker 1: how are you very?

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01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:00,000
Speaker 6: Well how are you?

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01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:02,640
Speaker 1: Well thank you and you, Know i'm happy to, say

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01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:05,560
Speaker 1: knock on, wood THAT i am still on the path

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01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:08,960
Speaker 1: of proper heart. Health and that is, again Like i'd,

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Speaker 1: mentioned it is to me one of those things THAT

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01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:15,600
Speaker 1: i knew because of family heart, history THAT i was

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01:58:15,680 --> 01:58:18,360
Speaker 1: at risk for heart, attack but SEEMINGLY i didn't have

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01:58:18,520 --> 01:58:21,760
Speaker 1: other risk factors quote end quote that go into. That

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01:58:21,800 --> 01:58:24,200
Speaker 1: so let's begin with. That what are risk factors that

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01:58:24,280 --> 01:58:27,360
Speaker 1: one could have that maybe they don't even realize that

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01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:30,040
Speaker 1: they would have kind of silent risk factors when it

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01:58:30,040 --> 01:58:30,480
Speaker 1: comes to heart.

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Speaker 11: Disease sure it's, complicated but let's try to get into

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01:58:36,640 --> 01:58:41,360
Speaker 11: some big broad. Brushes so the two most powerful predictors

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01:58:41,560 --> 01:58:44,280
Speaker 11: of whether you're going to develop a heart attack or,

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01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:48,879
Speaker 11: plaque if you started to rank, them number one, Smoking

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01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:52,760
Speaker 11: so that's why when you see the doctor and you

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01:58:52,800 --> 01:58:55,800
Speaker 11: say you're a, smoker there's a long conversation about. It

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01:58:55,880 --> 01:58:58,880
Speaker 11: everybody knows it's an, addiction but it really is the

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01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:02,520
Speaker 11: number one reason why patients go on to develop stroke

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01:59:02,600 --> 01:59:06,160
Speaker 11: and heart. Attack so that is really where you want.

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01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:08,480
Speaker 7: To focus your. Energies the second.

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01:59:08,160 --> 01:59:12,000
Speaker 11: Most powerful predictor of whether you're going to develop plaque is,

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01:59:12,080 --> 01:59:15,600
Speaker 11: diabetes and the worst the, diabetes the higher the, risk

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01:59:16,240 --> 01:59:20,880
Speaker 11: and diabetes is really a. Spectrum and people even sometimes say, that,

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01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:25,040
Speaker 11: Oh i'm pre, Diabetic i'm. Fine, no, unfortunately not so

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01:59:25,240 --> 01:59:29,120
Speaker 11: pre diabetes is you, KNOW i think like, this like

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01:59:29,120 --> 01:59:32,960
Speaker 11: to think of it as like diabetes stage. Zero it's

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01:59:33,000 --> 01:59:37,800
Speaker 11: still conveying some amount of cardiovask their. Risk the cholesterol

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01:59:37,920 --> 01:59:43,640
Speaker 11: gets kind of changed and, stickier and pre. Diabetes so metabolic,

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01:59:43,760 --> 01:59:48,839
Speaker 11: health which is this continuum from pre diabetes and insulin

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01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:52,440
Speaker 11: resistance all the way to, diabetes is a risk. Factor

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01:59:52,600 --> 01:59:56,120
Speaker 11: so you, know if you have a lot of visceral,

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01:59:56,200 --> 01:59:59,240
Speaker 11: fat there's two different types of. Fat there's fat that's,

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02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:03,480
Speaker 11: uh you, know in your, skin okay and outside your.

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02:00:03,520 --> 02:00:05,880
Speaker 11: Body you, know we call that subcutaneous.

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02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:06,240
Speaker 7: Fat.

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02:00:06,840 --> 02:00:09,680
Speaker 11: Uh and then there's visceral. Fat visceral fat's the fat

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02:00:09,720 --> 02:00:12,520
Speaker 11: that's inside your. Belly it's what gives, you you, know

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02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:15,960
Speaker 11: the beer belly or big. Abdomen that's the fat that's

2237
02:00:15,960 --> 02:00:19,440
Speaker 11: around your. Organs and that stuff's like. Kryptonite that's, awful.

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02:00:20,080 --> 02:00:25,760
Speaker 11: Uh that is metabolically active and, flammatory uh and increases

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02:00:25,800 --> 02:00:28,960
Speaker 11: your risk for high blood, pressure makes your sugar bat

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Speaker 11: even increases your risk for. Cancer if you can believe.

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Speaker 11: It so that's you really don't want to have a

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02:00:35,480 --> 02:00:39,280
Speaker 11: whole lot of visceral. Fat high blood, pressure high blood

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02:00:39,280 --> 02:00:42,120
Speaker 11: presure is also an awful risk. Factor the WAY i

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02:00:42,120 --> 02:00:44,280
Speaker 11: describe it to my, patients it's kind of like a power,

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02:00:44,440 --> 02:00:47,320
Speaker 11: washer but power washer in your. Skin it's gonna start

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02:00:47,400 --> 02:00:49,880
Speaker 11: to really hurt that, skin make it very irritable and.

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02:00:49,920 --> 02:00:53,920
Speaker 11: Injured so high blood pressure creates shear the same shear

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02:00:53,960 --> 02:00:55,920
Speaker 11: stresses on the inside of the, lining so that your

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Speaker 11: blood vessel predisposing them to. Damage the next one is. Cholesterol,

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Speaker 11: uh the higher you're, cholesterol you, know the wars off you.

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Speaker 11: Are and it's it's a little bit more complicated than.

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Speaker 9: THAT.

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Speaker 11: I you, KNOW i we don't really have time to

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Speaker 11: go into an.

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Speaker 7: Entire course of.

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Speaker 11: Lipidology but one of the cholesterol components that we CALL

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Speaker 11: l D, l the higher that, number it's, correlated, uh

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Speaker 11: although not directly with you, know some degree of cardiovascular.

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02:01:26,480 --> 02:01:31,000
Speaker 11: Risk and this is you NEED l D l or

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02:01:32,280 --> 02:01:36,000
Speaker 11: certain types of cholesterol that we call APO b containing

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02:01:36,040 --> 02:01:40,160
Speaker 11: compounds to create. Plaque so you, know if you cut

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02:01:40,200 --> 02:01:42,640
Speaker 11: down all the bad trees in the, forest you're going

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02:01:42,720 --> 02:01:45,880
Speaker 11: to have less risk or forest fire and that's that's you,

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02:01:45,920 --> 02:01:47,320
Speaker 11: know and you're you're gonna.

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02:01:47,120 --> 02:01:48,560
Speaker 7: Get rid of some of the good trees too.

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Speaker 11: Along along with. It but when somebody has you, know

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Speaker 11: you're you're, saying, HEY i don't want my house to burn. Down,

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02:01:54,160 --> 02:01:55,920
Speaker 11: well number, one don't pour gasoline on.

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Speaker 7: It and what's? Gasoline gasolinees is? Smoking?

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Speaker 11: Okay number two is let's get rid of all the dry, brush,

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Speaker 11: Okay and.

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02:02:02,600 --> 02:02:05,280
Speaker 7: What's the dry? Brush, well the dry brush.

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Speaker 11: Is is that cholesterol and making sure that your sugar

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Speaker 11: is adequately. Controlled and those are some of the things

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Speaker 11: that we don't want to go.

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Speaker 7: Do now we can get.

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Speaker 11: Into some of the atypical risk. Factors so these are

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Speaker 11: the cause. Inflammation so some people have inflammatory conditions like

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02:02:21,680 --> 02:02:26,080
Speaker 11: rheumatoid arthritis or syriatic arthritis where their.

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02:02:25,880 --> 02:02:26,680
Speaker 7: Body is always.

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02:02:26,680 --> 02:02:29,320
Speaker 11: Inflame that's a risk, Factor so those patients need to

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02:02:29,320 --> 02:02:32,320
Speaker 11: be a little bit more. Careful everybody in their life

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02:02:32,360 --> 02:02:35,320
Speaker 11: should get a single blood test called AN lp little

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02:02:35,360 --> 02:02:39,320
Speaker 11: as it's a type of genetic. Cholesterol it's a marker

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02:02:39,400 --> 02:02:43,880
Speaker 11: of risk and if that's really really really, high then you,

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02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:46,520
Speaker 11: know regardless of you of your risk. PROFILE i shouldn't say,

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02:02:46,560 --> 02:02:51,480
Speaker 11: regardless but in addition to your risk, factors you have higher,

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02:02:51,560 --> 02:02:53,040
Speaker 11: risks so we're going to want to be a little

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02:02:53,080 --> 02:02:58,640
Speaker 11: bit more aggressive regarding treating. You so those sedentary lifestyle

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02:02:59,520 --> 02:03:01,640
Speaker 11: is also one as, well and you really want to

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02:03:01,680 --> 02:03:05,440
Speaker 11: be physically said and physically. Active So i'd say that

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02:03:05,520 --> 02:03:08,320
Speaker 11: those are the bulk of, them and that's probably what

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02:03:08,520 --> 02:03:13,000
Speaker 11: ninety five percent of the risk factors that we take into.

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Speaker 13: Consideration you, know when we hear the term doctor heart,

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02:03:17,520 --> 02:03:21,840
Speaker 13: disease you, know we're so conditioned to believe that disease means, that,

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02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:24,520
Speaker 13: like there's this fungus that's growing through your body and it's,

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02:03:24,560 --> 02:03:27,840
Speaker 13: attacked you, know whatever it might be what labels as

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02:03:28,680 --> 02:03:31,040
Speaker 13: or falls under the umbrella of heart.

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Speaker 11: Disease, yeah that's kind of a catch all bucket because

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02:03:35,120 --> 02:03:38,320
Speaker 11: you could say that somebody has a bad valve is heart.

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02:03:38,320 --> 02:03:41,280
Speaker 11: Disease somebody has plaque in their heart is heart. Disease

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Speaker 11: so disease means abnormal functioning of normal. Physiology that's what

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02:03:47,120 --> 02:03:50,680
Speaker 11: that's really where the word comes. From so when when

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02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:52,880
Speaker 11: the heart is not when parts of the, heart and

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02:03:52,920 --> 02:03:56,240
Speaker 11: that could be an electrical system or it has or

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02:03:56,280 --> 02:03:58,440
Speaker 11: the arters that feed, it or the valves or the,

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02:03:58,480 --> 02:04:02,520
Speaker 11: squeeze that's all the. Heart so in my, mind somebody

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02:04:02,520 --> 02:04:07,520
Speaker 11: who has heart disease is somebody who has a dysfunction

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02:04:07,560 --> 02:04:09,760
Speaker 11: of The he just Doesn't your heart isn't like it

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02:04:09,800 --> 02:04:13,560
Speaker 11: was WHEN i was, Eighteen, okay so and that's a

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02:04:13,600 --> 02:04:18,040
Speaker 11: spectrum as. Well some people say plaque or having a

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02:04:18,080 --> 02:04:20,480
Speaker 11: heart attack is heart. Disease that's, True But i'd also

2313
02:04:20,680 --> 02:04:24,400
Speaker 11: say that having a sick, er weak heart heart failure

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02:04:24,720 --> 02:04:29,440
Speaker 11: is heart. Disease so it's. Complicated it's not a very specific.

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02:04:29,480 --> 02:04:34,560
Speaker 11: Thing most heart doctors don't speak that. Way we say

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02:04:34,600 --> 02:04:38,560
Speaker 11: that they have a, cardiomyopathy which is they have a

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02:04:38,600 --> 02:04:42,320
Speaker 11: weakness or disease of the heart, itself or if they have,

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02:04:42,440 --> 02:04:48,080
Speaker 11: plaque we say they have arterial sclerosis or after askrotic cardiovascular.

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Speaker 1: Disease Doctor Ryan daley is my. Guest he is With.

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Speaker 1: Franciscan by the, way we're going to talk about heart

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Speaker 1: scans and. Folks as you hear me, mention you can

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02:04:57,040 --> 02:04:59,080
Speaker 1: find out about setting up for a heart scan From.

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02:04:59,080 --> 02:05:02,360
Speaker 1: Franciscan very, simple non invasive forty nine. Dollars you can

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Speaker 1: pay out a pocket with these eight three three two

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Speaker 1: three eight zero six eight eight is the telephone. Number

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Speaker 1: that's eight three to three two three eight zero six eight.

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Speaker 1: Eight let's talk about, that. Doctor the heart scan you

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02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:16,520
Speaker 1: talked about making sure there's no brush around the house

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02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:19,000
Speaker 1: in case there would be the situation of a house.

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02:05:19,000 --> 02:05:21,760
Speaker 1: Fire you can look at that with a satellite image

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02:05:21,800 --> 02:05:23,640
Speaker 1: of your, HOUSE i, guess and kind of inventory how

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02:05:23,640 --> 02:05:26,720
Speaker 1: the yard. Looks heart scan kind of does the same,

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02:05:26,880 --> 02:05:30,400
Speaker 1: thing does it? Not what exactly is a scan looking?

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02:05:30,520 --> 02:05:33,080
Speaker 1: For and who should be really paying attention to?

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02:05:33,120 --> 02:05:37,000
Speaker 11: This, sure that's a really great question as. Well thanks

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02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:40,760
Speaker 11: for thanks for asking. That so what a heart scan.

2337
02:05:40,960 --> 02:05:44,400
Speaker 11: Is it's a calcium, score and it's not like the

2338
02:05:44,440 --> 02:05:47,040
Speaker 11: calcium in your. Blood it's like the calcium in your.

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02:05:47,080 --> 02:05:47,440
Speaker 7: Bones.

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02:05:47,680 --> 02:05:51,400
Speaker 11: Okay so what they do is it's a very low

2341
02:05:51,480 --> 02:05:54,840
Speaker 11: radiation cap scan that PROVIDES x rays and THOSE x

2342
02:05:54,960 --> 02:05:59,760
Speaker 11: rays go through the body and the machine measures the

2343
02:06:00,120 --> 02:06:03,680
Speaker 11: how hard different components of your body are and as

2344
02:06:03,720 --> 02:06:08,480
Speaker 11: signs a mathematical value to. That so things that are very,

2345
02:06:08,520 --> 02:06:11,960
Speaker 11: hard like your spine or your arm or your, leg

2346
02:06:13,000 --> 02:06:16,440
Speaker 11: well those show up as, bright, okay and that brightness

2347
02:06:16,520 --> 02:06:21,640
Speaker 11: is calcification or something super. Hard so the body has

2348
02:06:21,640 --> 02:06:25,200
Speaker 11: a limited number of ways of healing. Itself so, initially

2349
02:06:25,240 --> 02:06:27,640
Speaker 11: when there's injury to the blood, vessel it starts to

2350
02:06:27,680 --> 02:06:30,720
Speaker 11: form a. Scab, well we can't image that with this

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Speaker 11: quick screening test that cost forty nine. Dollars we have

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Speaker 11: other ways of taking a look at. That but as

2353
02:06:38,120 --> 02:06:43,760
Speaker 11: the as the hard, heals it goes through a process of, hardening,

2354
02:06:44,120 --> 02:06:48,720
Speaker 11: scarring and ultimately forming something that's almost bone, like which

2355
02:06:48,800 --> 02:06:53,960
Speaker 11: is this dense hard. Calcification the WAY i like to

2356
02:06:53,960 --> 02:06:56,880
Speaker 11: think of the, CALCIFICATION i like to think of it

2357
02:06:56,920 --> 02:07:01,520
Speaker 11: as grizzly bear paup. Prints so it's not the grizzly

2358
02:07:01,960 --> 02:07:04,680
Speaker 11: bear paw prince that gets. You it's the grizzly. Bear

2359
02:07:05,280 --> 02:07:07,960
Speaker 11: but if you see a whole lot of paw, prints

2360
02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:10,280
Speaker 11: you're not going to want to camp, there, Okay so

2361
02:07:10,320 --> 02:07:13,720
Speaker 11: that means that there's. Risk so when we see somebody

2362
02:07:13,760 --> 02:07:17,240
Speaker 11: that has a really high calcium, score that means there's

2363
02:07:17,240 --> 02:07:20,000
Speaker 11: a lot of grizzly bear activity around. There so you

2364
02:07:20,080 --> 02:07:22,920
Speaker 11: got to go, looking what's the grizzly bear the grizzly.

2365
02:07:22,920 --> 02:07:27,640
Speaker 11: Bear is that really, soft non calcified. Plaque we call

2366
02:07:27,760 --> 02:07:30,320
Speaker 11: that that that's the high risk plaque and that's much

2367
02:07:30,400 --> 02:07:36,800
Speaker 11: more likely to rupture much like pulling the scab off

2368
02:07:36,840 --> 02:07:40,320
Speaker 11: of your knee and then the body forms a blood

2369
02:07:40,360 --> 02:07:43,240
Speaker 11: clot and that's actually how a hard attack. Works so

2370
02:07:43,320 --> 02:07:45,760
Speaker 11: the more paw prints you, have that means that there's

2371
02:07:45,840 --> 02:07:49,360
Speaker 11: more soft pack. Around so now if you don't have

2372
02:07:49,520 --> 02:07:53,720
Speaker 11: any paw, prints, okay could there be a bear around? You,

2373
02:07:54,520 --> 02:07:56,760
Speaker 11: yes there could, Right so just because you don't see

2374
02:07:56,800 --> 02:07:59,360
Speaker 11: it doesn't mean it's not, there but it's far less

2375
02:07:59,440 --> 02:08:01,720
Speaker 11: likely than if you see pot prints all around your.

2376
02:08:01,720 --> 02:08:03,960
Speaker 11: Campsite so that's all we have to think about. It

2377
02:08:04,360 --> 02:08:07,560
Speaker 11: if you have a calcium score of, zero in, general

2378
02:08:08,000 --> 02:08:12,640
Speaker 11: on a population, level your risk is lower than somebody

2379
02:08:12,680 --> 02:08:16,840
Speaker 11: has plaque all around their. Heart so if they have

2380
02:08:16,880 --> 02:08:19,080
Speaker 11: a coucium score of three hundred or five hundred or a,

2381
02:08:19,160 --> 02:08:21,440
Speaker 11: thousand that person is much higher risk of having a

2382
02:08:21,480 --> 02:08:25,240
Speaker 11: cardiovascular event in the near. Term, now if you have

2383
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Speaker 11: a calcium score of zero and your two Packadet marlborough,

2384
02:08:28,120 --> 02:08:30,240
Speaker 11: smoker and you're a diabetic and you have high blood

2385
02:08:30,240 --> 02:08:35,560
Speaker 11: pressure and you you, know do other naughty, things that

2386
02:08:36,200 --> 02:08:39,520
Speaker 11: is that's not super reassuring to, me because you can

2387
02:08:39,680 --> 02:08:45,040
Speaker 11: have that, soft non calcified plaque that we're not visualizing

2388
02:08:45,080 --> 02:08:49,040
Speaker 11: with a calcium. Score but if your calcium score is three,

2389
02:08:49,120 --> 02:08:52,000
Speaker 11: HUNDRED i, know you know you have. Plaque, okay there's

2390
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:52,920
Speaker 11: grizzly bears around.

2391
02:08:52,920 --> 02:08:53,800
Speaker 7: There we have to.

2392
02:08:53,840 --> 02:08:56,520
Speaker 11: Worry we have to be aggressive regarding you and start

2393
02:08:56,520 --> 02:09:01,920
Speaker 11: optimizing your risk. Factors so anybody who is you, know

2394
02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:05,240
Speaker 11: older than the age of forty that has risk factors

2395
02:09:05,240 --> 02:09:08,600
Speaker 11: that we've discussed is somebody that should consider this and

2396
02:09:08,640 --> 02:09:12,600
Speaker 11: discuss it with their family. Doctor and then, FURTHERMORE i

2397
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Speaker 11: always say, that you, know people shouldn't try to make

2398
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Speaker 11: these decisions completely on their own about what their next steps.

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Speaker 11: Is this is really a partnership and what are the

2400
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2401
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Speaker 11: exercise whether it's medicine such as cholesterol lowering medicine statins

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Speaker 11: or asprin or what. Have you make those decisions with

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Speaker 1: Dally WHAT i took from this conversation very. Informative one

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Speaker 1: and important one is, this and that is that smoky

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Speaker 1: the bear is a grizzly, Bear so go ahead and

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Speaker 14: Friday, oh, Buddy Pendleton, Pike i'm right up. Here i'm

2468
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Speaker 14: gonna go over To Family leisure right next door and

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Speaker 14: get one of their hot.

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Speaker 8: TUBS i don't think they're going to ask.

2471
02:12:50,640 --> 02:12:52,040
Speaker 14: Me i'm gonna do that a little bit later, on

2472
02:12:52,080 --> 02:12:54,480
Speaker 14: play some video games and to get water all of the.

2473
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Speaker 8: Floor Then i'll walk. Out but, no this is a great.

2474
02:12:57,000 --> 02:12:59,400
Speaker 14: Spot by the, Way, jake you just had one of

2475
02:12:59,480 --> 02:13:01,840
Speaker 14: the smartest human Beings i've ever heard on the.

2476
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Speaker 8: Station and THEN i get to follow up that.

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Speaker 1: Guy you know the thing about it ABOUT i Got.

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Speaker 14: PAUL i Got Paul prince all over myself, too but

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Speaker 14: it's a little.

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Speaker 8: Different his set of circum.

2481
02:13:14,200 --> 02:13:16,720
Speaker 1: His ability to be able to speak to that though

2482
02:13:16,760 --> 02:13:19,200
Speaker 1: in a language that you AND i can, understand is greatly.

2483
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Speaker 1: Appreciated right let.

2484
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Speaker 14: Me tell you WHAT i Was so that was to

2485
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Speaker 14: me one of the most interesting interviews of the week right.

2486
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Speaker 14: THERE i got to thank you for doing that BECAUSE

2487
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Speaker 14: i thought that WAS devi AND i were kind of

2488
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Speaker 14: talking about, that and, man this guy what a unique

2489
02:13:35,280 --> 02:13:38,920
Speaker 14: ability to pass along information that you, know normally like

2490
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Speaker 14: numb nuts like me would have no idea what he.

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Speaker 1: Agree and that's WHAT i loved about this partnership With

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Speaker 6: It.

2495
02:13:47,880 --> 02:13:50,400
Speaker 1: John you, know it's weird because on A, friday typically

2496
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Speaker 1: we're talking about A colts. Game On, sunday that's not

2497
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Speaker 1: going to be the. Case we're going to get kind

2498
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Speaker 1: of a two step because we'll be doing that On.

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Speaker 1: Monday BUT i assume you got to show locked and loaded, RIGHT.

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Speaker 8: I can't out.

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Speaker 14: Way we got the normal set of circumstances, Here jay

2502
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Speaker 14: gobed A. Friday i've Got monday night football tickets to give,

2503
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Speaker 14: away Bud Light Blue Friday Whiskey business On Pendleton.

2504
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Speaker 8: Pike it is one of the.

2505
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Speaker 14: Places plus we're gonna find out who The hoosiers get

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Speaker 14: coming up layer all tonight With oklahoma And. Alabama you

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Speaker 14: got some college football going. On, Hey by the, way last,

2508
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Speaker 14: night did you go to the?

2509
02:14:21,480 --> 02:14:21,760
Speaker 6: Game?

2510
02:14:22,200 --> 02:14:24,400
Speaker 1: NO i was just in The. PACERS i was at

2511
02:14:24,480 --> 02:14:27,200
Speaker 1: the out At Night. Ows, yeah with mculture was.

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02:14:27,200 --> 02:14:31,760
Speaker 14: Great did they play Exclusively Little River band while you were?

2513
02:14:31,800 --> 02:14:34,840
Speaker 14: There At Night Owls Beach, grove which they should.

2514
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Speaker 1: And the game they played the game, too and a

2515
02:14:36,720 --> 02:14:38,920
Speaker 1: bunch of a bunch of mini. Hoops, RIGHT.

2516
02:14:40,800 --> 02:14:43,160
Speaker 14: I Love Night owls And Beach. Grove but, no you're

2517
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Speaker 14: you're over there with, that which makes a lot of. Sense,

2518
02:14:45,880 --> 02:14:48,000
Speaker 14: HEY i was saying this To eddie before you AND

2519
02:14:48,040 --> 02:14:52,800
Speaker 14: i got started. Here it was a great shot That brunson.

2520
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Speaker 14: Hit but he is WHAT i like to call the

2521
02:14:56,200 --> 02:14:59,200
Speaker 14: master foul baier of.

2522
02:14:59,240 --> 02:15:00,680
Speaker 8: All, time certainly in THE.

2523
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Speaker 14: Nba rightes hit them all the. TIME i am so

2524
02:15:04,120 --> 02:15:06,840
Speaker 14: sick of seeing That, jake he's a great. Player he

2525
02:15:06,880 --> 02:15:09,520
Speaker 14: doesn't need to do. That and all these pips squeak

2526
02:15:09,680 --> 02:15:13,320
Speaker 14: gray shirted referees let this dude get away From he

2527
02:15:13,360 --> 02:15:14,760
Speaker 14: gets away with it all the.

2528
02:15:14,840 --> 02:15:17,080
Speaker 1: Time it drives me. Nuts he does kind of like

2529
02:15:17,120 --> 02:15:19,640
Speaker 1: a lean in and then quick pullback where it looks

2530
02:15:19,680 --> 02:15:21,960
Speaker 1: like he's been, contacted but he has not. Been and

2531
02:15:22,240 --> 02:15:24,480
Speaker 1: you know WHAT i, mean it's IT'S i guess there's

2532
02:15:24,520 --> 02:15:26,200
Speaker 1: a craft to it if you want to give him,

2533
02:15:26,240 --> 02:15:30,000
Speaker 1: That but he is a Very here's what's Frustrating. John

2534
02:15:30,360 --> 02:15:33,920
Speaker 1: he's a really likable dude and, player but he plays

2535
02:15:33,960 --> 02:15:35,960
Speaker 1: so unlikable that you don't want to like. Him does

2536
02:15:36,000 --> 02:15:36,560
Speaker 1: that make? Sense?

2537
02:15:37,240 --> 02:15:40,240
Speaker 14: Well and and also to a shutout my bad. TOO

2538
02:15:40,360 --> 02:15:42,440
Speaker 14: i Know Tyler ford is one of those pip squeak

2539
02:15:42,520 --> 02:15:44,200
Speaker 14: gray shirted officials here From.

2540
02:15:44,240 --> 02:15:46,600
Speaker 8: Westfield my. Bad he is definitely a pip.

2541
02:15:46,640 --> 02:15:49,320
Speaker 14: Squeak but NOW i Like tyler a great, deal BUT

2542
02:15:49,360 --> 02:15:51,440
Speaker 14: i get sick and tired of. IT i, mean if

2543
02:15:51,520 --> 02:15:53,880
Speaker 14: we can see, it how do these dudes on the

2544
02:15:53,920 --> 02:15:55,720
Speaker 14: floor not see it all the?

2545
02:15:55,760 --> 02:15:59,200
Speaker 8: Time because it Is jake constant with, him.

2546
02:15:59,200 --> 02:16:02,400
Speaker 1: You, know and it's this same as you, Know Shake Gilgess,

2547
02:16:02,400 --> 02:16:06,160
Speaker 1: alexander you, know he's kind of the master at in

2548
02:16:06,200 --> 02:16:09,200
Speaker 1: the mid range getting a late foul call all the.

2549
02:16:09,240 --> 02:16:11,520
Speaker 1: TIME i, MEAN i guess there's an art to. It

2550
02:16:11,560 --> 02:16:13,640
Speaker 1: and once they determine how the game is going to be,

2551
02:16:13,680 --> 02:16:16,160
Speaker 1: called then you can go from there with. It But

2552
02:16:16,240 --> 02:16:18,840
Speaker 1: brunson it there were times it was amazing to think

2553
02:16:18,880 --> 02:16:21,360
Speaker 1: that The pacers were able to withstand that and win

2554
02:16:21,400 --> 02:16:24,320
Speaker 1: a series against them a year. Ago but it Was,

2555
02:16:24,840 --> 02:16:26,560
Speaker 1: look it was a great game until the last thirty,

2556
02:16:26,600 --> 02:16:29,360
Speaker 1: seconds you know WHAT i. Mean, yeah when.

2557
02:16:29,280 --> 02:16:32,520
Speaker 14: You fall down on the inbounds pass, play that's problematic for, you,

2558
02:16:32,600 --> 02:16:33,800
Speaker 14: right that is correct to.

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