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Speaker 1: The whole world's been impacted on Fortakos.

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Speaker 2: Iran is violating every law known by striking commercial vessels

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Speaker 3: And this is a regime that.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't believe in laws, rules or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: It says state sponsor of terrorism, so it's not surprising

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Speaker 2: Against commercial vessels.

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Speaker 4: Saw that is Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, saying the

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Speaker 4: world has been impacted because of Iran violating every law

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Speaker 4: known by striking commercial vessels and they're a regime of terror,

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Speaker 4: and Rubio laying the legal and moral foundation for the

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Speaker 4: strike campaign right as the ceasefire is announced. It's pretty

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Speaker 4: masterful sequencing because the world needed to hear why this

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Speaker 4: happened before it heard that it's paused. And the framing

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Speaker 4: matters as much as the outcome.

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Speaker 5: And we'll get to the framing in just a minute.

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Speaker 4: Morning. My name is Casey. That is Jim. He's the

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Speaker 4: smart one. I'm the one in the dress. Also on

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Speaker 4: the way this morning, will the Rock reopen as a prison?

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Speaker 3: I should be on the table because we need to

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Speaker 3: touch your beds and that'd be. I think that's an

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Speaker 3: appropriate place for the significant public states and threats and

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Speaker 3: now security threats.

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Speaker 4: Why not? That is the borders are Tom Homan and

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump says that he wants to reopen Alcatraz Island

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Speaker 4: as a modern federal prison. He's asking Congress for one

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Speaker 4: hundred and fifty two million dollars to start planning the project.

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Speaker 4: That's according to the twenty seven budget proposal. And speaking

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Speaker 4: of criminals, the FBI set a record for the fastest

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Speaker 6: Is it not bendies and gentlemen here today? That's been

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Speaker 6: on the road for ninety minutes. Abit splits feed over

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Speaker 6: on even ground, barring injuries, four miles an hour. That

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Speaker 6: gives us a radius out six miles. What I want

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Speaker 6: out of each and every one of you is a

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Speaker 6: hard target searge of every gas station, residents, warehouse, farmhouse,

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Speaker 6: hen house, out house, and doghouse in that area. Checkpoints

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Speaker 6: go up at fifteen mile.

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Speaker 4: Corey Krass, former FBI special agent, is going to join

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Speaker 4: us at eleven and we're going to discuss the iconic

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Speaker 4: ten most wanted list from the FBI.

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Speaker 5: Also on the way this morning. He's back and he's

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Speaker 5: eating again. Well, I'd say the biggest thing is just

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Speaker 2: So I'm looking forward to taking a nice bite out

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Speaker 2: this chicken nugget.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the McDonald's CEO is eating on camera again, and

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Speaker 4: this time it's chicken nuggets.

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Speaker 5: He did go viral a while ago.

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Speaker 4: With the McDonald's big arch and the Wall Street Journal

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Speaker 4: had an interview with him and they talked about him

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Speaker 4: eating on camera and he went into the McDonald's test

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Speaker 5: So we'll get to that as well.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if all the other fast food CEOs will

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Speaker 2: be following up with their chicken nugget product. Burger King guy,

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Speaker 2: his I can see that happening. It was It's really

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Speaker 2: tough to catch lightning in a bottle twice. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it was kind of an accident that he went viral

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Speaker 5: It just do it again.

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Speaker 2: It seems at it seemed organic the first time, seems

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Speaker 4: So ninety minutes that was the margin between a deal

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Speaker 4: Iran ninety minutes from the Stone Ages. The pressure was

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Speaker 4: maximum and the clock was real. Pakistan brokeered it in

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Speaker 4: the final stretch. And this is how Donald Trump negotiated

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Speaker 4: and it worked. But let's talk about the framing because

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Speaker 4: many people you're gonna hear, oh, Trump caved. No, Trump

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Speaker 4: did not cave. He just set another deadline. And when

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Speaker 4: he extends the deadline, which he's done four times, he's

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Speaker 4: was US in Iran and bilateral talks, reopen the straits

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Speaker 4: or face strikes. Deadline two, Pakistan enters a channel. The

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Speaker 4: conversation is no longer two parties. It's three. Deadline three

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Speaker 4: Pakistan hosts Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Turkey and Islamabad. Now

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Speaker 4: There's framework, it's actually a named document. So this is

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Speaker 4: no longer the United States. This is the entire region

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you bring up a really good point

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Speaker 2: about how the framing of this is all going to happen.

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Speaker 2: And keep in mind here, there is going to be

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Speaker 2: most of it, the vast majority of it, is going

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Speaker 2: when it comes from the media and you point out correctly,

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Speaker 2: people are going to say that Trump caved. And I

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Speaker 2: the media thinks that he caved. This is what Trump does.

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Speaker 2: He wants to get a deal. Even before the Iran

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Speaker 2: then settle for something in between. It's called negotiation. That's

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Speaker 2: the way it works. Let's go back to what he

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Speaker 2: did with Greenland. He said, you know what, we may

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Speaker 2: We knew he probably probably wasn't going to invade Greenland.

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Speaker 2: But at the end of the deal, we got a

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Speaker 2: from the media, of course, was oh, Trump caved on Greenland,

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Speaker 2: he's barking up all these threats and then he caves

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Speaker 2: but it's supposed to be Trump waffling on all sorts

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Speaker 2: from the media that Trump cave. But you just ran

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Speaker 2: through the entire laundry list of other countries that are

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Speaker 2: That's all Trump needs to do to be able to

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Speaker 2: sit here and say I gotta win, Let's go home.

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Speaker 4: So this was all based on this ten point proposal

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Speaker 5: Major outcome. The Strait of Horror moves will reopen.

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Speaker 4: And this is huge because it does have a critical

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Speaker 5: We don't really care about it. It's other countries that do.

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Speaker 4: And that is setting up the United Dates to be

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Speaker 5: In regards to Venezuela.

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Speaker 4: And Greenland and the other countries, they're going to be

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Speaker 4: they also have a dwindling military.

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Speaker 5: And it seems like they don't really want to be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're starmer. The Prime Minister of Britain has played

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Speaker 2: just about the worst hand of poker you could possibly

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Speaker 2: you mentioned they don't have much of a military. You know,

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Speaker 2: there to at least have some sort of presence in

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Speaker 2: all of this. And you're exactly right about the straight

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Speaker 2: couch all of this by saying nothing is firm in

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have some negotiations. And keep in mind after

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Speaker 2: the ceasefire, several hours after the ceasefire was announced yesterday,

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Speaker 2: So you know, this is all very tenuous. This could

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Speaker 2: of other other things to keep in mind. The ceasefire

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Speaker 4: It's interesting you mentioned Israel because Fox News is reporting

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Speaker 1: Well, the Israeli is for what they know so far

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Speaker 1: to fire another missile at Israel. It wasn't five minutes

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Speaker 1: But it's also possible that word hadn't gotten out to the.

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Speaker 5: Rocket group, so Israel's not happy. That's noted. That's filed.

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Speaker 4: America first means the president of the United States make

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Speaker 4: foreign policy decisions in the interest of Americans, not in

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Speaker 4: the interest of getting a standing ovation or a pat

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Speaker 5: And just think about how this plays out.

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Speaker 4: Markets, panic, conflict escalates, then there's a pause, and then

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Speaker 5: And think about this.

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Speaker 4: Everybody was up at arms about Trump post on Easter,

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Speaker 4: had he not threatened to blow Iran off the map

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Speaker 4: and the world spent forty eight hours ruminating about it.

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Speaker 4: A ceasefire would have seen mediocre. But now you can

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Speaker 4: we can all breathe a sigh of relief.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: know how much Trump's you know, threats on Easter Sunday

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Speaker 2: and his tweets that he were pushing out, you know,

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Speaker 2: forced Iran to the table on this, but it does

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Speaker 2: seem like there was a step back from the brink.

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Speaker 2: I really quickly. You mentioned markets. I think it's important

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Speaker 2: to talk about the Dow Jones is already up thirteen

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Speaker 2: hundred points this morning, which is two point six percent.

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Speaker 2: Then as Deck up eight hundred and fifty points, which

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Speaker 2: is three point five percent. Oil prices have absolutely cratered

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Speaker 2: in the last twenty four hours. Brent crude has gone

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Speaker 2: from all the way from about one hundred and ten

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Speaker 2: dollars during the day yesterday, it's at ninety two dollars.

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Speaker 2: So markets are obviously trying to adjust to what they

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Speaker 2: think will be the new normal. Keep in mind, now

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Speaker 2: every country in the world, assuming that this ceasefire holds

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Speaker 2: at least for a couple of weeks, you're gonna see

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Speaker 2: all the countries in the world jockeying for position. You

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Speaker 2: talked about how oh, Israel's coming out and saying they're

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Speaker 2: not happy about this ceasefire, and the media is saying, oh,

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump, he caved, and Iran is coming out and saying, well,

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Speaker 2: we forced Donald Trump to. It's all a bunch of bs.

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Speaker 5: This is all a bunch of.

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Speaker 2: Bs rhetoric and political posturing as everybody tries to line

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Speaker 2: themselves up and position themselves for what is coming next.

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Speaker 2: And again that's assuming that this ceasefire holds well.

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Speaker 5: What is coming next? This is something that you have

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Speaker 5: to consider. Keep in mind.

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Speaker 4: The United States doesn't need that oil. We've got our

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Speaker 4: own oil, yep. And now we're controlling Venezuela's oil. This

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Speaker 4: is all part of a bigger picture with the Greater

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Speaker 4: North Greater America plan, and in a way, it's us

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Speaker 4: putting China in their place because China is the country

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Speaker 4: that needs that oil. Through the strait of horror moves suddenly,

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Speaker 4: this is giving us leverage in regards to Greenland and

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Speaker 4: with tariffs with China in the future.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it'll be interesting too to see how Europe

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Speaker 2: reacts to all of this because they obviously didn't want

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Speaker 2: to play in this game. Talk nasty about Trump the

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Speaker 2: entire time. Trump's not going to forget that. And so

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Speaker 2: whatever kind of framework comes out of this piece deal

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Speaker 2: in Iran, I'm gonna guess that Trump is going to

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Speaker 2: find every single opportunity he can to stick it to

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Speaker 2: everybody in Europe.

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Speaker 4: I think when you have to look at the map

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Speaker 4: when this is all said and done, and the map

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Speaker 4: is going to look like Greenland, North America all the

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Speaker 4: way down to Panama and Venezuela, I.

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Speaker 2: Think that's a big part of it.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely everyone else.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to Casey and Jim. It is ninety three

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Speaker 4: WIBC