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Speaker 1: It was bad even by Braune standards. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: And the biggest applause lines of the night were I

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Speaker 3: They were gonna have mandatory fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I mean, you can tell these people want

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Speaker 3: So you did not walk away feeling overly motivated. Well,

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Speaker 1: Brawn's plan for the Bears, basically, and the States plan

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Speaker 3: Well, he did mention about how it's costing less now

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Speaker 4: Another wait on Hoosier's wallets when I took office.

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Speaker 4: It's a major driver of the affordability crisis. That's why

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Speaker 1: He is Donald Trump to that auto plant worker the

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Speaker 1: Look, all the property tax bill is is one. It

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Speaker 2: We've talked about Steve before. Steve is a.

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Speaker 1: Steve probably knows property taxes better than maybe any person

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Speaker 1: because the system itself, and this is what we've been

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Speaker 2: If they pass.

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Speaker 1: At the very least, you're gonna have to spend your

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Speaker 3: Another thing he talked about was data centers and AI.

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Speaker 2: When did that start? Because when did that start?

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Speaker 1: Is did I miss some piece of legislation that says

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Speaker 2: He'll just he pulled get out of his asse.

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Speaker 3: He actually said, your utility costs will go down? How

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Speaker 1: So a company that is using large amounts of electricity

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Speaker 1: For the community, why are we as Hoosiers paying millions

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Speaker 3: One thing that he did mention, I.

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Speaker 2: Believe the answer is because he's lying.

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Speaker 3: One thing that he did mention was that childcare costs

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Speaker 1: Look, he was void, it was laborious, it was boring.

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Speaker 1: He was void of any specific policy proposals. He's fresh

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Speaker 1: to give him anything he wants. He's just a guy

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Speaker 1: cashing a check at this point. He's just some rich

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Speaker 2: And he's totally blown it. He's done.

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Speaker 3: The one point in the speech that got the most

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Speaker 4: I am so proud of the work we've done to

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Speaker 4: My administration has people from up and down the state.

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Speaker 3: That's how you get people excited. You talk about non

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Speaker 1: Indiana University, which he and his lieutenant governor have gone

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Speaker 1: out of their way to attack, to change the structure

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Speaker 1: of to say they're awful, they're horribly run, They change

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Speaker 1: the board. And then here he is the classic politician

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Speaker 1: move right when it benefits him.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we love IU the best. We're all Hoosiers today, baby,