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Speaker 1: in a conservative part of Pennsylvania, and I grew up

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Speaker 1: and I know, and I love people that voted for

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Speaker 1: President Trump, but they are not fascists, they're not Nazis.

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Speaker 1: They're not trying to destroy her the constitution most.

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Speaker 2: And that's why John Fetterman will no longer be the

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Speaker 2: Senator from Pennsylvania because the Democrats are going to primary

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Speaker 2: challenge the living daylights out of him. You already have

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Speaker 2: axios with the story that this is the plan. He

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Speaker 2: spoke at a town hall event there on News Nation

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Speaker 2: and said, I disagree with people. It doesn't make them fascists.

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Speaker 2: Dear Lord, they tried to assassinate Charlie Kirk. Could we

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Speaker 2: tone down the rhetoric? And for that he will be destroyed.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Great to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Ed Morrissey joins me right now. The Kappo Detuti Coappo

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Speaker 2: over at hot air dot com. That's where you find

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Speaker 2: his work at Morrissey on the Twitter xbox. We're going

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Speaker 2: to get into Fetterman, but you've got a story. And

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Speaker 2: I commented on this, and people check out my show

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Speaker 2: sheet over there at Tony Katz dot com. You wright

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Speaker 2: panic at the demsco as opposed to Disco. Obama jumps

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Speaker 2: in to save Spamberger in Virginia. This is the gubernatorial candidate,

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Speaker 2: the Democrat, Abigail Spamberger, who's just getting walloped every which

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Speaker 2: way but loose by the Republican Lieutenant Governor Winsome Earl

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Speaker 2: Sears is her name, specifically because Spamberger won't denounce the

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Speaker 2: Attorney general candidate Jay Jones, who said that the Republican

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Speaker 2: Speaker of the House of Virginia should be killed along

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Speaker 2: with his two kids. And when you see Obama supporting Spamburger,

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Speaker 2: just like you see Obama going in to California and saying,

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Speaker 2: you know what, we should redistrict, the translation only comes

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Speaker 2: out to my god, they really are feeling some desperation.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 2: Ed Morrissey talk to me about what's going on in

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Speaker 2: this Virginia race and obama entrance.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean you've covered it pretty well here, Tony.

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Speaker 3: This is not the first time that Obama has done this.

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Speaker 3: People may forget this, but he had to do this

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Speaker 3: four years ago to try to save Terry Mcalliugh's campaign

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Speaker 3: in the good minatorial election in which Glenn Youngkin want

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Speaker 3: His his big problem was that he equated parents showing

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Speaker 3: up to school board meetings to domestic terrorism. Now this

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Speaker 3: is right after January sixth, and Democrats thought that the

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Speaker 3: January sixth narrative was a winner for elections, and Terry

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Speaker 3: They're doing the same thing here. And it's really mystifying

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Speaker 3: to me what the calculation is here, because Jay Jones

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Speaker 3: without these without these texts coming out, I think he

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Speaker 3: AG race is not as important as a gubernatorial race.

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Speaker 3: And you know, the rule in politics is usually very practical.

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Speaker 3: you you dumped them, You denounce them and save your

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Speaker 3: own skin. Democrats have not done that with j Jones,

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Speaker 3: even though j Jones was stupid enough to put this

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Speaker 3: in a reproducible media texting, right, this idea that I

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Speaker 3: recall his last name. Todd Gilbert and his children, Todd Gilbert,

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Speaker 3: thank you very Todd Gilbert and his children should be

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Speaker 3: murdered so that Republicans vote better on policy issues, which

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Speaker 3: was then followed up by claims that he had also

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Speaker 3: And Spanburger just as decided to stick with him, and

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Speaker 3: so basically, this is the upshot of this is the

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Speaker 3: nationalizing this election by bringing in Obama rather than just

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Speaker 2: Talking to Ed Morrissey of hotair dot com, there are

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Speaker 2: you'll see people on the political rights say, yeah, that's dumb. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: it's strategic or tactical, just because it's the right too.

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Speaker 3: know what we could probably you know, you know, sarcastically

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Speaker 3: That's a whole different thing. This is an actual candidate

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Speaker 3: a it's a completely different issue. I mean, yeah, you

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Speaker 2: What kind of impression is that? That's your impression?

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Speaker 3: That's as good as it gets on a Thursday morning.

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Speaker 2: Come on now, Okay, by the way, can you speak

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Speaker 4: Don't talk to me about January sixth. You don't understand

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Speaker 3: Got one Nancy Pelosi. If Nancy Pelosi was on the

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Speaker 3: neither one of us should go into the impersonation industry.

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Speaker 3: Don't think so. He didn't make the difference for Democrats

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Speaker 2: not fascist. We have to stop this and then being

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Speaker 1: to shut our government down. I absolutely would love to

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Speaker 1: the tax credits for healthcare. Absolutely, but I would remind

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Speaker 2: And for that Ed Marssey, for the honesty, and of

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Speaker 3: and I would I think it's not because of the shutdown.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that has anything to do with it.

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Speaker 3: They are they are going to make him. They're going

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Speaker 3: and the radical left doesn't like it. And you know,

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Speaker 3: I did a little research on it this morning, because

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Speaker 3: I've written a piece about this. I went to guv

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Speaker 3: Senate in the previous congress. This is, you know, twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty three to twenty twenty five, John Fetterman is the

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Speaker 3: sixteenth most left leaning senator in the United States Senate.

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Speaker 3: You know who scores much worse than him in terms

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Speaker 3: John Fetterman votes with this party. John Fetterman basically votes

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Speaker 3: have to ask yourself, why are they trying to Why

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Speaker 3: are they trying to get rid of him? It's certainly

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Speaker 3: not because of his voting record. It's because of his

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Speaker 3: And that's the only reason why Democrats in Pennsylvania would

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Speaker 3: want to get rid of Fetterman. He's basically doing exactly

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Speaker 3: what they elected him to do, to be a left

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Speaker 2: And why on the national scene they will burn him

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Speaker 2: to the ground. We will see if Pennsylvanians see it differently.

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Speaker 2: I look forward to the Selena Zito kind of reporting

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Speaker 2: are really at before I let you go at marcyhotair

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Speaker 2: dot com. I shared this yesterday. You wrote about this

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Speaker 2: yesterday Harry Enton talking about the shutdown and where Democrats

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Speaker 2: shutdown is playing into their hands. They're doing great, Schumer

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Speaker 2: saying where we're getting our position is getting stronger every day.

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Speaker 2: It isn't showing in the polling. It's not showing what

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Speaker 3: No And I went looking past where Enton looks for polling.

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Speaker 3: I think he was looking at one specific poll which

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Speaker 3: D plus three, which is not good for Democrats, by

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Speaker 3: the way, they really need a D plus five at

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Speaker 3: least in order to gain seats. But I went and

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Speaker 3: looked at Real Clear Politics and actually it's a D one.

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Speaker 3: that actually has dropped in the last two weeks of

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Speaker 3: D one point nine. There's a there's apparently been an

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Speaker 3: impact with the shutdown, but it's the exact opposite impact

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Speaker 3: people are unhappy with the general direction. And those polls

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Speaker 3: basically reflect the political situation prior to Donald Trump getting

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Speaker 3: the hostages out of Gaza, and I suspect that those

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Speaker 3: the next couple of weeks. That may not be a

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Speaker 3: lasting impact, defending on what else happens in the Middle East.

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Speaker 3: But Donald Trump came back to the US with a

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Speaker 3: lot more strength then he left it on the basis

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Speaker 3: of getting those hostages out. Can I think that after

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Speaker 3: this weekends, no Kings demonstration Chuck's gonna fold.

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Speaker 2: Let's find out atmarrisseyhotair dot com. I appreciate you taking

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Speaker 2: the time. More is coming up. Keep it here. I'm

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz Today