1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: It's wild to think we have an entire layer of 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: government in our state that really doesn't do much, certainly 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: doesn't do anything that somebody else couldn't do, and yet 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: it garners so many bad headlines, and our politicians are 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: so weak they're just like, yeah, let's keeping. 6 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: Let's just keep doing that. Is it wild to think 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: about that or is it super frustrating? 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: Well, it's super frustrating. 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: Right. 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: So, what we're talking about is township government, and there 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: are more bad headlines as it relates to township government. 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: And this comes out of a story. We've actually talked 13 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: about this on this program before. It is in Columbus, Indiana, 14 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: the Columbus township trustee. This guy's name is Ben Jackson. 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: Now the Republic down there, as the stories, all sorts 16 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: of news outlets have covered this. He's now going to 17 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: face up to sixty four and a half years in 18 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: prison after entering a guilty plea on Monday. 19 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, he stolen misused over one point one two million 20 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: dollars in township funds over eight years. 21 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: And this isn't an issue of whether this guy was 22 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: totally corrupt and unethical and doing illegal stuff. And obviously 23 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: he hasn't now admitted he was. There are bad people 24 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: in all levels of government. But what happened with this guy? 25 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: When you look at the amount of money that he used, 26 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: I mean he was a lot of this was personal 27 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: expenses he was paying with the township's credit card that 28 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: he was misusing in an illegal manner. And the amount 29 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: of time it went on and the amount of money 30 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: that he that he used, you realize there was just 31 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: basically no oversight going on here, right, There was no 32 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 1: checks and balance at all. He was doing this personal 33 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: piggy bag. See monumental amount of money over eight years, 34 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: whatever that is? What is that almost one hundred and 35 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: fifty thousand a year a little bit less than that 36 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: on average. And who who was overseeing this? The answer 37 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: is basically nobody. There's supposed to be a board that 38 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: does this. But I can tell you having dealt with 39 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: these boards before they meet it many cases, like a 40 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: couple times a year. You're lucky if somebody reads the documents. 41 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: And these trustees basically have the rule of the roost, 42 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: and because they have so little to actually do, you 43 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: see these sort of things that can take place. 44 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: He spent money on personal trips to ten different countries, 45 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: retail purchases, personal utilities, home improvement projects including a deck 46 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: and landscaping, carpentering, plumbing, electric work, flooring, and children's tuition 47 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: and school expenses as well. 48 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: Yes, you're talking one point one two million, I think 49 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: was the number and the bigger conversation though whether you 50 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: live in this guy's I mean, if you live in 51 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: that community, he just stole your money, basically, And that's 52 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: why they could have gone to the schools, the fire departments, police, whatever. 53 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: But the issue is that we have this layer of 54 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: government at a time where everybody's screaming about, you know, 55 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: property taxes and everybody. The schools are saying they don't 56 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: have enough money, and people are saying we're paying too 57 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: much money. We have this layer of government that for 58 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: almost twenty years in the state of Indiana, dating back 59 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: to when Mitch Daniels was governor and had them under 60 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: in his sites and commissioned that Kernan Shepherd Report done 61 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: by former Democrat Governor Joe Kernan, Republican Chief Justice of 62 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court Randall Shepherd, And one of the things 63 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: they said out there is get rid of this layer 64 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: of government. This is not eighteen forty two anymore. These 65 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: people don't do anything that another layer of government already 66 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: existing couldn't do and save everybody a whole bunch of money. Now, 67 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: they recommended many things, but this was front and center. 68 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: And here we are almost twenty years later, and these 69 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: things still exist because the politicians are too cowardly to 70 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: take them on. 71 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: So it's a real good example of the misuse of 72 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: public funds for nearly a decade. But keep in mind, 73 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: not only was he stealing the government funds, was collecting 74 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: his salary on top of it for eleven years. 75 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there have been many, many cases of these 76 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: trustees doing rotten stuff and getting away with it for 77 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: periods of time, just because there is such a lack 78 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: of oversight going on in these in these townships. And 79 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: at a time where we're saying we need to find 80 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: ways to free up revenue to go to these various 81 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: government entities who are now singing the blues over Senate 82 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: Bill one. It is ridiculous that our state government allows 83 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: this to exist in its current form and allows this 84 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: sort of stuff to continue. It's just they just waste 85 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: they just waste tax payer money, I mean, and they're 86 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: pretty vocal about I think the townships where I live 87 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: that make up Brownsburg. I think that doesn't mean correct 88 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, but I think both of them 89 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: are sitting on a million dollars in their fund. 90 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: They're rainy day fund. 91 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 3: They're not doing anything wrong with it. 92 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: They're just like, hey, we don't anything do with this, 93 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: Like it just sits there and collects interest. Shouldn't that 94 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: go back to the people at the very least, couldn't 95 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: we disperse it amongst the entities to fill some of 96 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: their espoused short shortfalls the you know, the towns, the cities, 97 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: the fire departments, the schools sort of help them out 98 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: so that they don't have to be doing referendums or whatever. 99 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: Why does all of this exist if they have so 100 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: much money that they can't even spend. 101 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: It would require effort. 102 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. So anyway, we wanted to touch on that. 103 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: We touch on that story before. This guy looks like 104 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: he's going to prison for a long time, and people 105 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: need to wake up because while many times may not 106 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: be doing anything illegal, when you look at the amount 107 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: of money they're able to they consume, and then they 108 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: don't really have any use for shouldn't we be doing 109 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: something about this? 110 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: Somebody ought to do something. 111 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: Someone should do something. All right, Ah, let's see here. 112 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: So John Fetterman, I again, I come back to and 113 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: I feel bad because the guy had you know, I 114 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: had a health issue. But if you can't speak, you 115 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: just can't be in the US Senate if you can't 116 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: form coherent sentences, like every every Fetterman answer. And it's 117 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: not like, yeah, people stumble over their words, right, like 118 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: if you talk a lot, it's gonna happen. We do it, 119 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: but it's every time, it's every clip, and it's these 120 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: incremental non sentences. Beat a boot. 121 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: But above, why do you think that because he's out 122 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: there this whole shutdown, he has been the face at 123 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: least one of them, of the Democrats. Why do people 124 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: keep going to him and why does he keep putting 125 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: himself out there? 126 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 4: Well? 127 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: He So he's fascinating because if you remember when he 128 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: ran for the Senate, he was the lieutenant governor before that, 129 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: he before he was a senator and he was this 130 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: like uber left guy and they were just elated when 131 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: he got elected. And then he figured out pretty quick, 132 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: I'd rather have a job than be liked by the left, 133 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: and so he tacked, you know, towards the senator. And 134 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 1: that's fine, but damn, dude, can't Shouldn't you be able 135 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: to speak? Shouldn't you not put letters on words that 136 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: don't exist? Shouldn't you be able to get their correct 137 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: tense of things or the plural of things? 138 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: Do you think that the interview the interviewer is rebe 139 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: not going to ask him the hard questions because of 140 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: that issue, Like does he get a pass? 141 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: Well, he gets out the basics of that, everybody else 142 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: kids does he just can't he can't speak, like just 143 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: like I'm sorry, Like, listen to this area is he's 144 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: Stubby's stumbling. He's talking about why he was against the shutdown. 145 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: He was talking about he wouldn't say where they wants 146 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: Schumer gone or not. This guy's a senator. 147 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 5: Well, well, first of all, it's not like I agreed 148 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 5: to that. I mean, I've been consistently now remember this, 149 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 5: all that went back to March. I effectively kind of 150 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 5: led the charge now that it's wrong to shut our 151 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 5: government down. And then enough of us realize that that's 152 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 5: just too risky and that's too much chaotic, and then 153 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 5: we kept it open, and I know there was a 154 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 5: lot of backlash for that, but and I declared back 155 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 5: then we'll be right back in the end of September 156 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 5: and I will be there too, because it's fundamentally the 157 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 5: wrong thing when you're confronting mass, mass chaos. You know, 158 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 5: I don't think you should respond with morph chaos or 159 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 5: fight with more chaos. It's like, you know, we need 160 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 5: to be the party of order and logic, and I'll 161 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 5: respond in in a way. And now I refuse to 162 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 5: weaponize the snap benefit for forty two million Americans, you 163 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 5: know that rely on feeding themselves in their family or 164 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 5: or making flying in America and you know, less safe, 165 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 5: or I refuse not to pay our military and all 166 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 5: of the unions attached to all of this and people. 167 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 5: So for me, like it's like, I don't, I don't 168 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 5: agree with that tactic to respond the circumstances that we're 169 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 5: confronting on this. 170 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: Am I wrong, It's ridiculous. 171 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: You're right, he keeps going back to the SNAP. I 172 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 2: mean he's been leaning hard into that. 173 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: You know who he is. He is the Farley. You 174 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: remember that time, guy, that's what you remember that time 175 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: you were in a time when like Paul mccarteys, don't 176 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: remember that one time you're in the Beatles. That is 177 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: who he is. That like, like it's just like boo 178 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: bah bah bah bah bo boo Bobby, Like that's his 179 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: every time he answers anything, and it's like he puts 180 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: l ys on things that don't or he puts s's 181 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,599 Speaker 1: or he doesn't put an s when there should. 182 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: Be and or just a random word you should Yeah. 183 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: Like the merging thoughts smacking them together, Like come on 184 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: speaking and being a senator like that is I Am 185 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: not like somebody's gonna be like you're going after a 186 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: man who had a stroke. Horrible that he had a stroke, 187 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: but we're three years on from that. If you still 188 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: can't speak after three years and you're making up words 189 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: that don't exist, and you're slamming words together and your 190 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: thoughts are being jammed together and you're wheezing like he's 191 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: out of breath trying to like big thoughts, I'm sorry. 192 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm done with you. You can't be a senator and 193 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: you can hate me if you want for saying that 194 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: he should not be a senator. 195 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: A lot of people are starting to respect him a 196 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: little bit more. They see me boo. He's going towards 197 00:09:59,160 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 2: the middle. 198 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 4: But come back to you. 199 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: He keeps he keeps talking about the forty two million 200 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 2: Americans that are on SNAP benefits. Why are there forty 201 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: two million Americans on those benefits? By the way, do 202 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: we have a hunger problem in this country? Or do 203 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 2: we have an obesity problem in this country? Which one 204 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: is it? 205 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: Casey? Let's do an exercise here. You be Casey and 206 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: I'll be Fetterman. You asked me the question like you 207 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: asked me the hard question. I'll give you the answer, rob. 208 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: Do we have an obesity problem in this country or 209 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: a hunger problem? Which one? 210 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: Ski me scoob it a boo, bah skim it a 211 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: bah dah. 212 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, those aren't even words. Yeah forty shamala. 213 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: Look it's ridiculous. All right, we got some Trump audio 214 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: when we come back. 215 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: Kend only Casey on ninety three w ib c oh man. 216 00:10:53,559 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: Look at my life it is he is eighty eighty 217 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 2: years old. So is he married to Daryl Hannah? He 218 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: is married Daryl still married to Darryl. 219 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 4: That's right. 220 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: He's married to Daryl Hann, who was phenomenal in Kill 221 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: Bill Her with that her putting that black mom, but 222 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: I think you can spoil movie if it's been out 223 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: twenty years, right case, can you can. 224 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: Spoil spoiler alerts? 225 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: After that, she's very prominent in the second Kill Bill movie, which, 226 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: by the way, did you see they're doing some sort 227 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: of big all the the whole Kill Bill is one 228 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: thing is now coming to the I don't see imax 229 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: or someone's coming back out in the theater. 230 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 2: Well, you can watch them all in a row. 231 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: I guess. I don't know if they're like together better 232 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 1: Kill Bill Volume two one of my all time favorite movies, 233 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: right up there with Inglorious Bastards, But she is Daryl 234 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: Hannah is phenomenal in when when she puts that black 235 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: mom in that briefcase and it goes at Michael Madison. 236 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: That's great anyway. Yes, Neil Young is eighty. I know 237 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't like him because of his politics. 238 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: I think Neil Young is phenomenal. Do you I can 239 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: see I can separate the music from the politics. A 240 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: lot of people can't do that, but I think I think, yeah. 241 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: I mean, you look at like the Mount Rushmore of 242 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: Neil Young songs. I think is phenomenal. You probably get 243 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: to push back on that and tell me that I'm 244 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: just some old timer yells at clouds. 245 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 2: No, I like his music too, especially when you know 246 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 2: is CSN and Y and then he left. 247 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. 248 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: Do you when you talk about Neil Young's greatest hits, 249 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: do you include because I look After the gold Rush 250 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: is one of the ten greatest songs of all time, 251 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: no doubt about that. But I mean, you got what 252 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: you got, Cinnamon Girl after the gold Rush, Southern Man, 253 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: Ohio Man, Needle, the Damage Done, Heart of Gold. Hey, Hey, 254 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: my my rock in the free world. That's all. I mean, 255 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: They're all. I mean, you name ten on the top 256 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: of your head, just like that. 257 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Harvest Moon, Yeah, forgot that one. 258 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, it's fine. 259 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 2: That one's okay anyway, Just that one's just okay. 260 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: Isn't it amazing too that there's a lot of people 261 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: that can't many people who can't separate the politics from 262 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: the music. I never had a problem with that. Can 263 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: you do that? 264 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 2: Or do you hear. 265 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: Somebody you're like, oh, I know what he said about 266 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: my favorite politician. I can't. 267 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: I have a harder time now than I used to. Really, Yeah, 268 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: I used to be able to separate it. But now 269 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: I look at someone like, oh, what's that one actor? 270 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 2: You know who I'm talking You know, the guy the thing, 271 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 2: the guy in the movie did the thing. 272 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was an actor, he was in a movie him. 273 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: Now I look at him and more. Are you talking 274 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 2: about DeNiro? 275 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: Oh, Robert DeNiro? Yeah, yeh, he's pretty well known. That's 276 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: kind of a known quantity, right the guy like the 277 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: guy talking about Ronnie Howard's brother, Ronnie Hart's brothers, the 278 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: cl Howard Is that his Sam? 279 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: Yes? 280 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, I don't know. I mean, music is just 281 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 1: unlike really anything else. Kevill back me upbout this. He's 282 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: a highly trained musician. Music sort of marks moments in 283 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: time for people, like when you hear stuff, you experience things, 284 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: you associate music with it. And I've always had the 285 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: theory like what am I to do, un like disconnect 286 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: from those those remember that most experiences and the things 287 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: are the moments in time. You can't do that. 288 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: You developed a personal relationship with that song or that 289 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 2: whatever music you like. 290 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, is Neil Young? And asked, probably what I want 291 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,239 Speaker 1: to hang out with him? No, but his music is phenomenal. 292 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: It's literally cool. 293 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: I probably got some really really good marijuana, I would imagine, 294 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 2: I don't know for sure, you know, I saw Cony. 295 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: It's interesting. Conan O'Brien was a massive Neil Young Fan'm 296 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: pretty sure this is Conan O'Brien, and he got to 297 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: interview him one time and it was such a do 298 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: that well that's the thing. Like I was watching it 299 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: and I was like, man, it was kind of disappointing 300 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: because Neil Young has zero personality, I mean, just nud 301 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: just he looks like just a miser just comes off 302 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: as a miserable, rotten individual who has this incredible gift 303 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: to write music. And I was watching this interview, going, man, 304 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: that's your dude, and that's all the effort he's putting 305 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: in back to you, Like even if you you know, 306 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: they do all the talks, they do all the interviews. 307 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: But somebody would alerted him, Hey, Conan is a massive 308 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: fan of yours. You know, we need to hype the 309 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: game up, you know, let's bring him something. Hey, thanks 310 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: for being a you know, a loyal fan all these years. 311 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: And he just was like totally he was just Neil Young, 312 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: and it was like, oh, that'd be so depressing be 313 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: so depressing. 314 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: Did Jarroll Hannah get with him right after she broke 315 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: up with JFK. Junior? I mean, that's that's quite us. 316 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: She was with JFK. Junior? Yeah, really yeah, like they 317 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: weren't married, No, they were married, but they having a 318 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: good time very publicly though they were together. Well, if 319 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: you're famous, how do you not date publicly? 320 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Like, did she get with Neil 321 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: Young after? 322 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: I don't know that's how far. 323 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: Broke up? 324 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I think she was with Neil Young 325 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: in the two thousand, twenty ten, so. 326 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: There was some time there. 327 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because JFK. Junior died in the nineties, didn't he? 328 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: Is that right? Did he go down in the nineties? 329 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: Is plain? I'm sorry? Did he go down in the nineties? 330 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 2: Was it? Yeah? 331 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: Because I was a kid, I remember that. I'm gonna 332 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: say ninety five, ninety nine, okay, yeah, yeah. So that's like, 333 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: that's a huge difference because she was with Jackson Brown 334 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: for a while and then you're telling me she was 335 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: with JFK. Junior, which that must have been after Jackson Brown. 336 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: I think that was in the eighties. 337 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: So then she went back to the rock and roll. 338 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's got a type. 339 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, clearly, and it's and JFK. Junior must have been 340 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: the outlier in that. 341 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, what a downgrade to go from JFK. Junior. That's 342 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: what I say, Like he was, you know, because like 343 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: Jackson Brown is a very good is a very good 344 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: looking person. JFK. Junior is a very good looking person. 345 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: Neil Young looks like a gargoyle. 346 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: Like you're going for someone who is uh, you know, 347 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: goes to the barbershop, has custom made suits, probably smelled fantastic. 348 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: That it has don laundry to who needs a bar 349 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: of soap? Well, it's interesting. A lot of these dudes 350 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: you'll see like old videos of them, these rockers, and 351 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: be like, oh, yeah, you know, when they were younger, 352 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: they weren't so bad. But Neil Young was always bad. 353 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: He was always horrible in the sixties. He was horrible looking. 354 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 2: Well, she obviously loves his heart. 355 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: She loves something his heart probably is a wallet, his 356 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: big wall. All right, we'll play the Trumbody only come back. 357 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: It's Kennelly Casey, It's ninety three WYBC. 358 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: That they are still sending me these text messages about redistricting. 359 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: Are they from fair mats? They want you to know 360 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 2: about it, They want you to call your report. 361 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: I don't know this one's from. I didn't care enough 362 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: to look, but I've gotten two in the last hour. 363 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: One of them is like, specifically, call my senator. 364 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 2: Are you gonna do it? You're gonna call? 365 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: Of course, not because I think the Republicans should win 366 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: the elections fairly, like actually govern a way people want 367 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: to vote for you. You know, the most hilarious thing 368 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: would be if they did this redistricting and Mervan still 369 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: won up in the first which I think that's part 370 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: of their concern. They don't think they can draw that map. 371 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: That's a slam dunk for him for them to beat him, 372 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: because he's won the last two elections. So we're talking 373 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: about the first congressional district, which is Chicago Land Area County, Yeah, 374 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: Lake County, and then some of the other surrounding counties. 375 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: It's a about a Democrat plus five county. Now it's 376 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: gotten much closer than it used to be over the years, 377 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: but the last couple elections, Frank Mervan, his father was 378 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: a congressman before him, has won that election by five 379 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: plus points. That's sort of where that district is that 380 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: and I just think that the leadership is in Indiana's 381 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: looking at that going in the Senate, like, I don't 382 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: know if we can draw this map to guarantee that 383 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: this guy loses, especially what we think would be an 384 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: increased voter turnout on the Democrat side or potentially could be. 385 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: And it's just not this is not worth the effort 386 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: for us. 387 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 2: Well, you could also have Jennifer Ruth Green really turn 388 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: it on and win. 389 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 1: You mean, grift harder. Yeah, she could grift harder. Jennifer 390 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: Ruth Green, of course is the now well disgraced is 391 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: a strong word. She is the former what was she? 392 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: She was the public Safety secretary under Governor Brawn who 393 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: was there for a few months and then a couple 394 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: months or several months or whatever, less than a year 395 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: and skeddoodled her way under out the door under a 396 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: cloud of scandal. And I believe a inspector general's investigation. 397 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: And you can read all about that for yourself. You 398 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: just Jennifer Google Jennifer Ruth Green. 399 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: So did the text say you're only allowed to call 400 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: if you're in favor of it? What if you're in opposition. 401 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: I'll read it to you. Let me read it to you. 402 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 2: Please. 403 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: All right, here we go, let me. 404 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: I want to know what I'm missing out on. 405 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: Pull these up here. Okay, here's the here's the first one. 406 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: Call Senator Brett Clark today and tell him get on 407 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 1: board with fair maps in Indiana. Democrat run states are 408 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: trying to rig the midterm elections by changing their election maps. 409 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: President Trump is fighting back, and Indiana legislators have the 410 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 1: chance to stand with our president and pass fair maps. 411 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: Senator Brett Clark is refusing to tell Hoosiers if he 412 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: stands with President Trump or the radical left. Call Senator 413 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: Clark at blah blah blah and tell him Hoosiers won 414 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: fair maps, now paid for by building a better economy, replies, 415 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: stop to end. 416 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well there you go. 417 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: Then here's the other one. I got, oh different phone number, Indianamus, 418 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: step up. The left is mobilizing in states like California, 419 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: and we can't let them redraw America's future. President Trump's 420 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 1: conservativey districting blend depends on grassroots patriots like you. 421 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: Grassroots. That's funny, they say, grassroots because the chair of 422 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: the Fair Maps Indiana is a former Trump advisor. 423 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: Take sixty seconds and sign your name to support his plan. Now, 424 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: my response to this would be, hey, I was told 425 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: I was such a bad Republican. I wasn't even allowed 426 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: in the Lincoln Day dinner. Now yeah what now? 427 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: Report? 428 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, now you want me to stand up and find 429 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: no wait a second, wait, wait wait, wait wait wait, 430 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with your initial observation that I'm such 431 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: a bad Republican. I'm not been allowed in the Lincoln 432 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: Day dinner. So don't be calling me for support. 433 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: You're so bad you don't even get to have the 434 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: rubber chicken dinner. 435 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, even though I did just do the 436 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: same thing Donald Trump did. You, No, he supported what's 437 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: his face? He's not a Republican. 438 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 2: That guy what's his face? Right? 439 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 440 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 2: Who ran as an independent? 441 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: And no offense. My previous support of a libertarian like 442 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: Jeff Mauer for Secretary of State because diego Morales, the 443 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: Republican is a complete, unethical, garbage scumbag, is far better 444 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: than Donald Trump lining up with Andrew Cuomo, who ruined 445 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: society in New York. So, if we're gonna play who 446 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: supported the worst guy? That wasn't a Republican. I'll put 447 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,719 Speaker 1: Rob Kendall's support pick was better. Yeah, no, kidding, right, 448 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: But anyway, this is ridiculous, Like you're just gonna bombard. 449 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: That'll show him. We'll just mass text people over and 450 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: over and over again. That'll make them do what we 451 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: want him to do. 452 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: The guy the chair for Fair Maps Indiana, the guy 453 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 2: who sent you that text charge of Marty. It is Martin. 454 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: I played golf with Marty. 455 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 2: He's a former advisor to Martin. 456 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know Marty. I played golf with Marty 457 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: one time. This has been years ago and seemed like 458 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: a pleasant enough individual. But I've I've conversed with Marty before. Marty. No, 459 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. Sorry, you're wasting your money by 460 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: text messaging me. I'm not doing it. Okay, Look, Marty 461 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: bred will probably fold anyway because he's a total chicken coward, 462 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: so he'll probably do whatever you want him to do. Anyway, 463 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: You don't need to waste your time on this. It'll 464 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: be fine. 465 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, they still have a couple of weeks anyway, 466 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: that's right to determine did good good good? Did he 467 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 2: decide well? I don't live he's still waiting. 468 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: No, he said he's gonna make up his mind on 469 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: the floor, right, seventy to zero. 470 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 2: He's on a committee though, so he probably has to 471 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 2: make up his mind before then. 472 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: Seventy to zero. Case he were his constituents, and he's like, 473 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it up my mind on the floor. 474 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. 475 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 3: All right. 476 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: We got Trump audio here, let's see. So this was 477 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: I thought this was interesting. He was talking. So yesterday, 478 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: which was Veterans Day, Trump was talking about changing the 479 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: culture of America and it should be victory Day in 480 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: no Veterans Day. And he said, we're only fighting wars 481 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: to win. 482 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 4: When I see other countries celebrating victory Day, I watched it. 483 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 4: I watched UK, I watched Russia. They were selling celebrating 484 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 4: victory Day world War two, and I said, we got 485 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 4: to have a victory Day. Nobody even talked about it 486 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 4: in our country. But from now on, we're going to 487 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 4: be celebrating victory Day, the World War One, the World 488 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 4: War Two, and frankly for everything else. Under the Trump administration, 489 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 4: we're restoring the pride and the winning spirit of the 490 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 4: United States military. That's why we have officially renamed the 491 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 4: Department of Defense back to the original name. 492 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: Department of War. 493 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 4: And remember, we won World War One, we. 494 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 2: Won World War. 495 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 4: Two, we won everything in between. We won everything that 496 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 4: came before. And then we brilliantly decided to change the 497 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 4: name of this great this great thing that we all 498 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 4: created together, and we became politically correct. We don't like 499 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 4: being politically correct, So we're not going to be politically 500 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 4: correct anymore. 501 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: From now on. 502 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 4: When we fight a war, we only fight for one reason, 503 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 4: to win. 504 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: We fight to win. That's hard to argue with any 505 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: of that. 506 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 2: No, I mean that should be the point, right, to 507 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 2: win win a war. However, he says that, you know 508 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 2: what really bothered me is he was standing next to 509 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 2: the former al Qaeda leader of the day before Veterans Day, Yeah, 510 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: laying out the red car welcome to the White House. 511 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: And did he say we're going to call it victory 512 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 2: Day on Veterans Day. I think, so, okay, yeah, well 513 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 2: it's not going to sit so well with some veterans. 514 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: Well, I saw that that some people were very upset 515 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: that he met. 516 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 2: They should have a day to be honored. 517 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So he was on where did he go? 518 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: Who was this. He was on some podcast. I forget 519 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: who it was, but anyway, Oh, it is McAfee show, 520 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: That's what it was. It was McAfee show. He was 521 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: on McAfee's show, heaving Trump some podcast. Well you know 522 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: theyse all run together, right, like, we got so much 523 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: audio and I'm trying to figure out who was He's 524 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 1: on McAfee show and he starts talking about how NFL 525 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: football coaches should beat generals. 526 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 4: I've often thought, you know, strategy was you see some 527 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 4: of the good strategy. 528 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: Every once in a while. 529 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 4: You see some pretty bad strategy too. We can name 530 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 4: plenty of that, but you see strategy. I've often said, 531 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 4: we go out or we get the best four or 532 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 4: five coaches, put them in a room if you go 533 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 4: into war, and you use them as because they do it. Ultimately, 534 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 4: it's all about strategy. It's about attack. It's about you 535 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 4: know what angle, Give me the angle of attack. I'll 536 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 4: bet you some of these coaches would make great warring generals. 537 00:25:55,160 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: Okay, so if you get strategy and planning and leadership up, 538 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 2: He's got a point there of getting you know, that 539 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 2: type of person in a position. 540 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: Seem the blocking scheme of some of these teams you 541 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: really want to put our men and women. 542 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 2: Who would you pick, like, like, oh my gosh, that 543 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: was gonna be number one on my. 544 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: Lig perfect great. Yes, I think Saban would be overwhelmingly. 545 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 2: Disciplined, demanding, right, Oh, absolutely, Yeah, he's builds winning teams. 546 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 547 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I think somebody like that, Now you got it, 548 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 2: like Belichick. 549 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: Hrzyszewski was in the military, so he'd be good. He 550 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: was coach with Bob Knight, or he played for Bob 551 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: Knight at the Army, so he's got experience the coach 552 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: with Bob Knight, played in coach with him. Anyway, The 553 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: point is he'd be fine. 554 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe maybe old Belichick when he was with the Patriots. 555 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: Well, but now we don't have a Tom Brady. Does 556 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: the military have a Tom Brady? Do we have a 557 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: like a like a great player? I mean, obviously our 558 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: men and women are great, But I'm saying, like some 559 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: player that Bilichick had with the Patriots that's so heads 560 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: and tails above everybody else, that you just win every 561 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: time you go out there, regardless of what anybody else does. 562 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: Does he have that? 563 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. Yeah, I think they're more into the 564 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: team effort. 565 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's right. You desperately want to play 566 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: this Mondami clip. You've been asking, like every break or 567 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna tell you. Do we have time? No, we don't. 568 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: All right, we got to do a breakup duel let 569 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,719 Speaker 1: he said he was gonna call Trump. Yeah, you were 570 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: every break. Can we play mont Dommy? He's so good looking. 571 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: No, Abduel's gonna join us now. 572 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna talk. 573 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: About the Republicans banning the media from these Lincoln days. 574 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: That seems to be happening more and more. 575 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting. We'll get into it next. So are 576 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: the Republicans banning the media in Indiana? Let's find out. 577 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: It's get the case to show. Rob Casey's here. Look 578 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: who it is. He's an author, he's a broadcaster, he's 579 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: a provocateur. Abdul keeps you bas hell. Good morning, my friend. 580 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: It's the beautifu data to sue somebody for something isn't 581 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: best known as the owner operator of any politics dot org. Okay, 582 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: so there's intimate media. By the way, we got into this. Hey, look, 583 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: anybody wants to go cover the state House? You want 584 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: to provide information to the masses as long as you're 585 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: gonna have your photo in a post office somewhere, none 586 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: of the run from the law. I support it. You know. 587 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: My opinion on that that if you're going to behave 588 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: yourself and be there, the more information we have on 589 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: these scoundrels out into the public, the better we're all 590 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: going to be. 591 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 7: Yes, However, there's a caveat to all that, and the 592 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 7: nutshell what we're talking about is John Schmid's, the perennial 593 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 7: loser candidate applied for media credentials for his mouthwash podcast 594 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 7: show that all the thirteen people watch on three of them, 595 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 7: and so he got credentials, and so did by the 596 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 7: name was Steve Whitmore. 597 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: Now Whimer got his because of our show. So you 598 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: better be careful here, because our people were the ones 599 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: who stood up for Whitmer. 600 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 3: And look, before you get into. 601 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: Your how much you have your spiel here, I'm just 602 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: gonna say I don't any problem with either of these 603 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: guys being there. The more people covering these scout und rus, 604 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: the better off we're all going to be. But you 605 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: have an opportunity to inflame my audience. Now go ahead. 606 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 7: Well, it's like it's like I wrote for the Cheating 607 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 7: Welcome to the Party, pal Well is a line of 608 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 7: you and you're right, no more, more coverage, more eyes 609 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 7: than everything makes absolute perfect sense. However, I don't think 610 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 7: they fully appreciate what they're about to get into because 611 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 7: a immediate badge just gets you into the building. It 612 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 7: does not guarantee you access. For example, if there's no 613 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 7: rule that says lawmakers have to talk to you, there's 614 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 7: there's no there's no I mean for years. Yeah, there's 615 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 7: there's no rule that says no, you have to do 616 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 7: this or they have to do this. They just just 617 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,719 Speaker 7: have to give you access. And by the way, your 618 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 7: access is still limited. For example, on the scentate floor 619 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 7: when they're in session, we can't be on the floor. 620 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 7: You have to be in the in the press gallery. 621 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 7: And by the way, number two, you gotta wear a 622 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 7: coat and tie. 623 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: Okay, So I didn't know we're gonna go here at 624 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: this is This is fascinating to me because you've been 625 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: in their twenty years covered State House. Our point was, 626 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: and and we use a lot of indie reporter stuff. 627 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: We think they do good, good, very interesting work. But 628 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: our point was, even if you didn't like the guy 629 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: if you're gonna let gave Whitley in, If you're gonna 630 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: give Gab Whitley a media badge, it's hard to go 631 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: much lower than that. You basically gotta say air Rice 632 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: coming in. 633 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, as long as as long as you can 634 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 7: demonstrate that your media, not just not just the general public, 635 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 7: that makes absolute perfect sense. My thing is like, hey, 636 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 7: come on board. We always use extra eyes and ears. However, 637 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 7: it's a lot more work than what you're thinking is 638 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 7: this is just somebody set up a camera, you know, 639 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 7: in the back room, or just or just mouthing off 640 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 7: or shouting off shout off questions to state lawmakers. It 641 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 7: doesn't work that way, and it's never worked that way. 642 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 7: The most up noxious reporter who's ever worked the State 643 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 7: House is me. 644 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: Well, the most interesting part of the state House this 645 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: gear could be the interactions with the media amongst themselves. 646 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 7: Exactly because once again, because already the grumbling has already 647 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 7: started that my brother sister, the press ever gradually accepted 648 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 7: these folks is here because the media has changed over time. 649 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 7: We all freely admit that. However, the media. The State 650 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 7: House meets from eight to five for the most part 651 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 7: some late nights during session. So and for most of us, 652 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 7: this is our day job. This is how we make 653 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 7: a living. If you're John Schmicher whitmerre those guys, Okay, 654 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 7: you got to be here eight to five, but you 655 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 7: got a day job. So how do you reconcile your 656 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 7: day job with come to the State House. I'm not 657 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 7: saying that you can't do it, because I teach do 658 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 7: a I teach to do a bunch of other things 659 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 7: during the day. However, I don't think they fully appreciate 660 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 7: the work that's going to be involved and doing all this. 661 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: Okay, real quick, this is interesting to me. So the 662 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: Republican's are going to be banning media from events. Now 663 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm not telling official government events, but I'm talking about 664 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: party function. So this was a big deal. A couple 665 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: of weeks ago during the state Fall dinner they said 666 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: no media allowed. 667 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 3: People are like, what is going on? 668 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: You talked about it and he Kelly talked about it 669 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: because normally in the past, why wouldn't you want as 670 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: much free attention as you can get unless you're plann 671 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: was saying something super controversial or have some of a 672 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: highly controversial figure as you're featured speaker, Why wouldn't you 673 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: tell everybody to come on in and. 674 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 7: That I'm still trying to figure out what their lives 675 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 7: tick in rationale was because at the State fall dinner, 676 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 7: I can't remember who the speaker was, and I don't 677 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 7: think anybody remember who the speaker was. 678 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the some guy who I'd never heard of. 679 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: Who is the rn C chair now, yeah, Gruttings, Grattans. 680 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 7: I don't even know who the guy was who basically 681 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 7: tell them, Hey, by the way, brick disting is no 682 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 7: big deal. So don't know what you guys get all 683 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 7: worked up over see, because that's because the think and 684 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 7: bend of the media doesn't necessarily mean the media won't 685 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 7: be there because we all have friends and eyes and 686 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 7: ears in the room. And one thing is gonna happen 687 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 7: is people gonna tell us what happened, what was said, 688 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 7: And by the way, could you send me a couple 689 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 7: of pictures too, because soon as they staked it was 690 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 7: over like click, click, here we go. 691 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so then this happens again now in Owen County, 692 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: right like they Braun was there, Micah was there, Rod 693 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: Bray was there, and they were like, well, the If 694 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: the media wants to come, they have to buy a ticket. 695 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: And I was like, the media having to pay to 696 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: tell the public what's going on. 697 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 4: I don't know. 698 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: That doesn't really sit right with me. We have to 699 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: give you money for what the privilege of covering you? 700 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 7: And see, here's the fun part is, I would argue, 701 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 7: and I thought about this, uh doing between the tape 702 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 7: and of State House happenings and we sat down to 703 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 7: do this today. Is they know for a fact that 704 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 7: most media can't give money to political parties and political. 705 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 3: Candidates, Well why would you? Because would you do that? 706 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 4: Now? 707 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 7: I've done it a couple of times, just just for 708 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 7: just for giggles, I was like, do I really want 709 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 7: to spend forty bucks drive down to Owen County? Like, now, 710 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 7: these white folks on my problem today? As my late 711 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 7: lovely mother would would say, Uh, However, it doesn't build goodwill. 712 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 7: And the day is going to come when somebody's going 713 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 7: to do something stupid, or they already done something stupid, 714 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 7: or will do something stupid, as you're gonna need a 715 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 7: friend in the media to at least get your side 716 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 7: of the story out and meanst media people, we have 717 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 7: very very long memories. 718 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing, you know, was the old saying 719 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: don't fight fights with people who have ink by the 720 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: barrels or something like that. 721 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, pick a fight with the guy that buys ink 722 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 3: by the barrel has a broadcast. 723 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,479 Speaker 1: Town there you yeah. Yeah? And and what was very 724 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,479 Speaker 1: what do you think they're doing? Why are they I mean, 725 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: what possibly could have been going on at the Owen 726 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: County Lincoln Day even though it didn't involve Braun and 727 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: Micah on the stage. I don't get that just second, 728 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: but like what what were they worried about? 729 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 2: What? 730 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: Who did they think? What were they in fear of? 731 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 7: Here's what I think they were afraid of. They're afraid 732 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,479 Speaker 7: of Micah saying something stupid and the meeting would pick 733 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 7: up on it and that would be the story. It's 734 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 7: just blatant paranoia. Well with these guys, who knows and 735 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 7: what I get it was like, hey, that the governor 736 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 7: the meet and the lieutenant governor. Hey, the meat is 737 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 7: going to be here, so just be cognizant of that. 738 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 739 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: Speaking of Braun and Micah, they appeared very chummy on 740 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: stage together, which is interesting because Braun, well, who knows 741 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: that Braun. But at least someone in Bron's orbit has 742 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 1: to be aware of the allegation surrounding Micah and his 743 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: office and the grand jury. And then you've got Micah 744 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: who promised to be the check and balance on Braun. 745 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: And they're just like, uh like Danny DeVito and Arnold 746 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: Schwarzenegger and twins up there together, right, the just the 747 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: best pals. If you're Braun, why would. 748 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 4: You do that? 749 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: You look, maybe nothing comes of that grand jury investigation, 750 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: but you have to know that's going on. And now 751 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: you can't distance yourself from him because you guys were 752 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: on that stage together. 753 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 3: Oh, if you're the governor, here's here's the line. If 754 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,959 Speaker 3: you're the governor, here's what I tell the governor. Like governor. 755 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 7: Okay, look, we know Mike has got all these issues 756 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 7: surrounding his office, but here's the thing. He hasn't been 757 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 7: charged with anything, and everyone's innocents are proven guilty, and 758 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 7: so until we get some more concrete information of wrongdoing, 759 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 7: we're just gonna be business as usual. 760 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 1: Well, business as usual. 761 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 3: Is showing up to work. 762 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: It's us sitting on a stage together in your free time, 763 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: chumming around together. 764 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 7: Yeah, but so governor business usual and someone asks you, 765 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 7: what we know they're out there, we'll we'll let the will, 766 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 7: let the system work out and take his place. 767 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 3: And let's talk about free of an opportunity. 768 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, he seems very afraid of Micah, which, like he 769 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 1: Merritt was talking about this in State Hoe's happenings. You 770 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: never hear him condemn Micah, no matter what the thing is. 771 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: He never stands up to him. He never pushed his back, 772 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: he never calls him an idiot, you know, nothing, like 773 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: he's afraid. It is amazing that the governor of the 774 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: state of Indiana appears petrified of his lieutenant governor. And 775 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 1: I don't know why. Yeah, you're not. 776 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 6: And you're trying to come up with a way to 777 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 6: spend it, and you can't because it appears to be 778 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 6: very true. No, I'm not saying that it's not true. 779 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 6: We'll save it for another We'll save for another addition. No, no, no, 780 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 6: because actually you know because later today actually being an 781 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 6: event over on the east ot of town with the 782 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 6: governor and with Micah. And so that's one of the 783 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 6: questions I planned to ask. 784 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: Very good, All right, Billy, gives your boss find him 785 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: at indianpolitics dot org. 786 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, and that'll do it for us today. 787 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: Thank you, Kevin, thank you, Casey. 788 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 3: Most importantly, thank you to you. 789 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: Without you, there is no US Tony Katz subnext Kettle 790 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: Casey ninety three WIBC