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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna ask you a question, and it's not

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Speaker 2: what you want, but it's what you actually expect. Do

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Speaker 2: you believe you will ever be able to fully retire?

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Speaker 1: What I want?

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Speaker 3: Yes, but I believe yes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you do that now, okay, follow up?

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Speaker 3: Do you believe that Jim will actually be able.

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Speaker 4: To you may be done?

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Speaker 1: What about your husband?

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Speaker 4: Lady?

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Speaker 3: Do you do you a loaded question?

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Speaker 2: Do you believe within the net I'm not trying to

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Speaker 2: date you, but within the next ten years, you will

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Speaker 2: be able to fully retire?

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Speaker 3: Ah? Yes, okay?

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Speaker 1: Will your husband be able to go with you?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you will you as a couple will not

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Speaker 2: And the reason I mentioned this because we're gonna get

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Speaker 2: this study out about how people are feeling about retirement

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Speaker 2: and how the actions that they're taking. The idea of

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Speaker 1: I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying like, you know that death is.

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Speaker 2: Imminent or you got one foot in a grave another

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Speaker 2: foot on the banana peel, but you know, in terms

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Speaker 2: of yours to season out your life, right, I'm in the.

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Speaker 3: Short side of sixty rather than fifty.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you're, if you're you know, I once heard

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Speaker 2: you get what I'm saying, right, you should want to

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Speaker 1: And yet it seems like.

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Speaker 2: Based on this poll and obviously things we've heard for

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 5: So. There was a new poll that did come out

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Speaker 2: And that is something that no amount of bs from

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Speaker 5: I would think that if taxes were lower in the

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Speaker 3: Those are the things that are really getting you. You

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Speaker 5: Able to forge your groceries a lot easier. Sure for

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Speaker 2: Sure, you know, like the middle class, the idea of

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Speaker 2: It's a hard conversation for me because I am a minimalist,

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Speaker 1: I do this.

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Speaker 2: This is my hobby. I get paid to do it.

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Speaker 2: But for people who want to span their horizons beyond

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Speaker 1: But if you're a person who desires to to, you know,

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Speaker 5: Travel, I want to see things when I retire, the

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Speaker 1: What do you want with? Do you want to see? Like?

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Speaker 2: Is there something you in your mind go I haven't seen?

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Speaker 2: say that I haven't seen. I feel like you don't

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Speaker 2: You like to go places, you like to do things.

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Speaker 2: Is there something you haven't seen that you'd like to see?

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Speaker 3: I mean there's parts of the country that I haven't

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Speaker 2: Like where were you not seen that? You say, I

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Speaker 5: Well, gee, Rob, when you put it like that, I mean,

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Speaker 1: So just basically a one month adventure, you can check

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Speaker 3: Possibly, Yeah, yeah, give me, give me an RV.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you're gonna be up the road. You're going

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be okay, not because like living the cost

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Speaker 2: I think about his life, him being Kevin. I'm pointing

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Speaker 2: And sorry, keV, you're going to be poor your whole life,

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Speaker 2: separate Siamese twins like, I'm sorry you chosen music and radio,

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Speaker 2: the two worst possible professions imaginable. Now, your daughter, because

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Speaker 2: to follow a different dreamer of a different skill set,

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Speaker 2: and because of the money that that you know what

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Speaker 2: and manual labor or sadness. That's what's in front of you, Kevin. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: the politician screwed it up for you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's interesting because there's still that worry for

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Speaker 3: They know what they're facing.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how he's going to do it, Like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be facetious. Are over the top

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Speaker 2: when I say this, I don't know how, And I'm

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Speaker 2: not just saying Kevin. Obviously, Kevin's very smart, but he

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Speaker 2: also is a world lend joys seeing the world. He

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Speaker 2: enjoys going places that seems very expensive, and go only

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Speaker 2: going to get more expensive. Well, what does that future

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Speaker 2: of that look like? So I just think these politicians

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Speaker 2: and they're so invested quite frankly, taking your money and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, that was a very uplifting segment. Now

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Speaker 2: As we've painted the It was like the Dickens Christmas

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Speaker 1: Okay, I got a gift.

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Speaker 2: Somebody sent me a to this and it's the note

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Speaker 1: That's what makes the gift even more special.

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Speaker 1: I got a gift. That's amazing and I love our

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Speaker 2: So it comes from Joseph and he sent a box.

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Speaker 3: Yeah goes, don't do that.

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Speaker 2: I get a box, I get a letter, and you

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Speaker 2: Joseph wrote this, Rob, this, I mean then this choked

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Speaker 2: We cannot say the word on these family friendly airwaves,

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Speaker 2: Thanks Joseph, and Joseph, I want you to know that

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Speaker 1: But when Joseph.

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Speaker 2: So thus, since he chose to sit there and nod

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Speaker 2: He does nothing now. He gave away all his power.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't want to govern, he doesn't want to help you.

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Speaker 1: So, Joseph, when he.

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Speaker 2: And I will put this Joseph right at the front

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Speaker 3: So can you tap his little head make him nod

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Speaker 1: Micah? Did you screw the taxpayers?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Micah?

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Speaker 3: Did you deceive everyone?

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Speaker 4: Micah?

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Speaker 2: Are you a highly fraudulent individual, Micah, Are you only

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: It's my understanding that Micah has ordered because he thinks

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Speaker 2: big joke. It's my understanding he has ordered a bunch

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Speaker 2: sell different from this, different with this, and this was

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Speaker 2: made from the heart by Joseph. No one should buy those,

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Speaker 2: No one should give him any money, no one should

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Speaker 2: do anything. And in regards to government or politics with

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Speaker 2: to see him, none of that. But we will certainly

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Speaker 2: I don't speak for you, Casey. I will use this

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Speaker 2: I'll let you you.

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Speaker 3: Let me tap him on the head.

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Speaker 5: So the Lieutenant Governor, I guess, is going to capitalize

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Speaker 1: That's what I heard.

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Speaker 3: Does that mean that you'll be changing his nickname?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, because but here's what I understand.

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Speaker 2: A couple of Micah's real close supporters, these bobbleheads, came

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Speaker 2: and then why you pulled them down.

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Speaker 3: So maybe they weren't ready for release.

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Speaker 1: But no, I mean, like I said, this is just

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Speaker 2: I love our audience. And I've said this before and

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Speaker 2: I'll say it again. Micah, It's not just that he

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Speaker 2: it's all fun in games. He got what he wanted

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Speaker 1: That guy was supposed to be better.

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Speaker 2: That guy was supposed to be different, and he was

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Speaker 5: Well, here's a bobblehead that you can not about. The

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Speaker 3: Did you know that there was one?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 3: It's based in Wisconsin, Milwaukee.

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Speaker 5: I believe they have unveiled the first ever bobblehead of

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Speaker 5: I use new mascot Who's your the Bison?

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Speaker 5: It's a thirty five dollars bobblehead eight dollars flat rate

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Speaker 5: by the university.

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Speaker 3: So if you do.

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Speaker 5: Want a bobblehead, maybe one that you can cheer for,

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Speaker 5: there is the Hoosier the Bison bobblehead available.

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Speaker 3: And if you're an IU fan.

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Speaker 2: And again, thank you Joseph for the fabulous gift. I

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Speaker 2: know you put a ton of work into this and

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Speaker 2: it is really special. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: It's Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: Wait, can you tell me you finally found someone who

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Speaker 1: understands bitcoin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a guy who did.

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Speaker 1: There's a guy.

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Speaker 3: There's a guy. He did a.

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Speaker 5: Pretty decent explanation of it. And this because Donald Trump

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Speaker 5: last week he signed the first major cryptocurrency bill into law.

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Speaker 5: There was some frustration from some people in GOP. They

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Speaker 5: were saying that it has a it lacks a clear

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Speaker 5: pathway into law for a measure which would block the

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Speaker 5: creation of a central bank digital currency.

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Speaker 3: That's not a not a good thing.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: The biggest problem, and look, I get that that's been

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Speaker 2: a real yo yo of the bitcoin thing. You know,

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Speaker 2: it was in the eighty eighty thousand at one point,

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Speaker 2: and then all the way down into the low teens,

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Speaker 2: and then now it's one hundred and.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I still continue to maintain the biggest problem with bitcoin

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Speaker 2: or the cryptocurrency. I get that the young people are

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Speaker 2: into it, I get that they understand it, but until

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Speaker 2: you have buy in from the public at large. Casey,

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Speaker 2: do you understand bitcoin?

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Speaker 3: Well, I do a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Better after listening to this guy in his exploits. I'm

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Speaker 5: trying to see if I can find what his name

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Speaker 5: is really quick.

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Speaker 1: His name is mister Bitcoin. I've got to.

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Speaker 3: Tell you, Peter somebody he was testifying.

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Speaker 1: Uh, we just put a random guy on our template.

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Speaker 1: What if he's a known felon.

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump had Donald Trump had truthed out about this,

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Speaker 5: and Trump called this the greatest bitcoin explanation of all time.

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Speaker 5: And after I listened to it, I thought, Okay, that

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Speaker 5: did simplify it just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: So we have some unknown guy who Trump says is

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Speaker 2: the best known explanation.

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Speaker 3: You'll see the guy's name.

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Speaker 5: It's mister Peter Something, but it's it's cropped out mister

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Speaker 5: Peter Something justifying in front of Congress, So he's he's

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Speaker 5: an expert Peter Something.

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Speaker 3: Super Peter tell us about bitcoin?

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Speaker 6: What is bitcoin? Bitcoin is the world's first cryptocurrency and

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Speaker 6: it works because of the world's first public blockchain network.

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Speaker 6: What does bitcoin do? It's simple. It lets you send

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Speaker 6: and receive value to and from anyone in the world.

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Speaker 6: Using nothing more than a computer and an Internet connection. Now,

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Speaker 6: why is it revolutionary Because unlike every other tool for

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Speaker 6: sending money over the Internet, it works without the need

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Speaker 6: to trust a middleman. Lack of any corporation in between

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Speaker 6: means that bitcoin is the world's first public digital payments infrastructure.

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Speaker 6: And by public, I simply mean available to all and

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Speaker 6: not owned by any single entity.

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Speaker 2: I think the average person would have a hard time understanding.

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Speaker 1: I'll get well, I mean, like I'm.

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Speaker 2: Saying, I mean, you know, Kevin's a world traveler, he's

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Speaker 2: very smart, he's certainly opened to new cultures and ideas,

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Speaker 2: and he's thirty years old.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't he doesn't. I just there's.

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Speaker 2: Obviously a lot of people who really believe in it.

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Speaker 2: Clearly it's had immense value there. I saw some guy

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Speaker 2: the other day who thought bitcoin is gonna be worth

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Speaker 2: a million dollars at some point or something like that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just I think without.

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Speaker 3: Are you saying you're not trusting mister Peter full fledged?

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, clearly, but look at the way at

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Speaker 2: Yo Yo's right, And obviously the government, our government's played

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Speaker 2: the biggest role in this. By we won't stop printing money.

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Speaker 2: We won't stop devaluing our dollar. That's given in many ways.

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Speaker 2: Given the rise of this is the actions taken by

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Speaker 2: the politicians who have sent people on scavenger hunts to

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Speaker 2: find the next new great thing. But here's you and

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Speaker 2: I had this conversation a while ago. I wish I

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Speaker 2: had been more motivated in school. My problem in my

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Speaker 2: life has always been if I'm not interested in it,

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Speaker 2: I cannot make myself learn about it.

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Speaker 1: It's a horrible, horrible thing.

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Speaker 2: I hope my child is different than that. If I

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Speaker 2: don't have an interest in something, I can't And when

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Speaker 2: I went to school, I should have said I'm going

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Speaker 2: to get through the stat class, because that was the

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Speaker 2: big one for me, and then I could have gotten

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Speaker 2: a business degree and I could have learned about all

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Speaker 2: these other things. But because I was not motivated to

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Speaker 2: pass the math class, which it wasn't a lack of intelligence,

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Speaker 2: it was a lack of desire, I ended up with

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Speaker 2: a general studies degree, which is I only did it

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Speaker 2: because I was mad that people I knew were half

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Speaker 2: as smart as me were getting college degrees.

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Speaker 1: But it's been totally worthless in my life.

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Speaker 2: If I had a business degree, with my drive and acumen,

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Speaker 2: I could have done a lot of great things. But

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Speaker 2: now I sit here with you now my whole life.

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Speaker 5: Who's the winner and who's in this situation?

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Speaker 2: About these people now that have the desire, the drive,

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Speaker 2: that are very smart people to learn outside of the

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Speaker 2: box of their interest box. And these are the sort

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Speaker 2: of things they come up with and they can do,

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Speaker 2: and that's why they're gajillionaires.

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Speaker 5: So you know, was it twenty one? I believe it

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Speaker 5: was New Year's Eve twenty one? I put one hundred

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Speaker 5: dollars into a theory.

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Speaker 1: How you doing?

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Speaker 5: It? Has bounced around all over the place. At one

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Speaker 5: point it was down to thirty seven dollars.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Today it's eighty one dollars and five cents.

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Speaker 2: You've only lost nineteen dollars in four years.

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Speaker 1: Yes, all right, Duell's going to join us next.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna you tried to get through the show the

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Speaker 2: other day without us talking about it, the big loss

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Speaker 2: for Rokeeda.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, with the re commision.

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Speaker 2: Abdul, you know how he hates talk about anytime Rokida

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Speaker 2: as a loss. We'll talk about that up next.

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Speaker 3: It's Kennel and Casey on ninety three WYBC man and

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Speaker 3: me will do and it tests as full comfortization.

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Speaker 2: You know. One of the things I think we feel

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Speaker 2: firmly about on this program is a lost for Indiana's

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Speaker 2: attorney general is generally a win for humanity. The Kennel

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Speaker 2: and Casey Show, I'm Rob Casey is here and oh

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Speaker 2: my goodness, the Indiana Attorney General is back in the

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Speaker 2: news run of the Indiana Disciplinary Commission. It did not

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Speaker 2: go well for him. Let's get to the bottom of

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Speaker 2: what's going on. He's an author, he's a broadcaster, he's

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Speaker 2: a provocateur, intern operator of Indie Politics dot ORGA Bill

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Speaker 2: keeps Shabaz.

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Speaker 4: Hello, frien, how's it going this morning?

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Speaker 1: Do going good? All right?

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Speaker 2: So you had a big expose and this over at

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Speaker 2: indiepolitics dot org. The Capitol Chronicle had it as well.

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Speaker 2: We'll just read the Capitol Chronicle headline, Indiana Supreme Court

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Speaker 2: denies ag Rokeita's to dismiss disciplinary complaint.

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Speaker 1: What in the world is going on?

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Speaker 7: Well, as we all know, tid Raketa is on the

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Speaker 7: hook for some comments he made regarding doctor Caitlin Barnard

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Speaker 7: at the Abortion Doctor. Not so much for a comments

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Speaker 7: that he made doing the Fox News interview, but for

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Speaker 7: comments that he made to the Disciplinary Commission because when

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Speaker 7: he when he in a nutshell, he got slept on

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Speaker 7: the wrist twice. The first time, it was like, hey,

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Speaker 7: don't do that again. Fine, And then Rakeda goes and

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Speaker 7: shoots off his mouth and say, well, only did it

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Speaker 7: because I knew that they would go after me.

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Speaker 4: Blah blah blah, like wha, wha, wha, whoa what huh

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Speaker 4: you did what?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I only did it because they made me do it.

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Speaker 4: I really believe it.

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Speaker 7: That's that's that's a lie. You can't lie for the

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Speaker 7: Display Commission. So that got the whole ball rolling.

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Speaker 2: So this all stems and I know most of our

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Speaker 2: audience does this by now, but just in case, tddro

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Speaker 2: Keta is the Attorney General for the State of Indiana. Lawyers,

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Speaker 2: just like broadcasters, you don't have a right to do it.

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Speaker 2: It's a we are not licensed anymore in this field.

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Speaker 2: But in terms of when you're a part of the team,

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Speaker 2: there's different rules you agree to play by than the

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Speaker 2: rest of humanity. And what I mean by that, let's

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Speaker 2: use us as an example. I cannot drop the F

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Speaker 2: bombs on this radio station because there are rules governed

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Speaker 2: by the federal government that say you can't say certain things.

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Speaker 2: I can do it on Monument Circle, I can do

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Speaker 2: in the comfort of my own bedroom. I can even

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Speaker 2: do it on the Internet if my employer will let

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Speaker 2: me get away with it, but I can't do it here.

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Speaker 2: Same thing with being an attorney. You have a First

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Speaker 2: Amendment right, but you give up as part of having

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Speaker 2: a law license, which you have to have to be

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Speaker 2: the Attorney General, you give up certain First Amendment things

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Speaker 2: that other people can do. And Todd Roketa went on

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Speaker 2: Fox News about three years ago now said some things

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Speaker 2: about a doctor performs abortions. It got him in hot

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Speaker 2: water with this Disciplinary Commission, which oversees attorneys he agreed to.

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Speaker 2: I believe it was a fine and essentially a slap

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Speaker 2: on the wrist, and then everybody was supposed to go

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Speaker 2: their own way and part friends.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: As soon as the deal that he signed on to

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Speaker 2: came out, he basically took a dump all over.

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Speaker 4: The deal wasn't even dry on the paper.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he basically tried to pooh poo the deal

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Speaker 2: that he signed off on. And then people in your

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Speaker 2: profession said well, wait a second, you signed off on

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Speaker 2: this thing you told the court, because I think part

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Speaker 2: of the thing, correct me if I'm wrong, was he

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Speaker 2: said I couldn't defend the charges against me if they

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Speaker 2: came in front of this court.

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Speaker 1: So that's part of this deal.

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Speaker 2: Well you can't then just basically say wow, I only

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Speaker 2: did that to say the taxpayers' money. You said you

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Speaker 2: did the thing. These conflicts are now in conflict with

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Speaker 2: each other, or appear to be. So now you got

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Speaker 2: to go back in front of these people again.

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Speaker 7: Well, actually would argue, technically, there is no conflict because

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Speaker 7: he signed a sworn affidavit. Here, your honor, here, it's

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Speaker 7: a sworn affidavit of Tabrakeeda said he to understood the

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Speaker 7: rules and would not repeat the behavior.

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Speaker 4: And what did he do? He repeated the behavior.

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Speaker 2: So he tried to get this, so there is now okay,

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Speaker 2: he tried to get These charges are the charges the

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Speaker 2: right word complaints whatever, just charges and this is not criminal.

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Speaker 1: It just relates to his law.

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Speaker 2: License dismissed. The Supreme Court, who is the ultimate judge, jury,

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Speaker 2: and executioner on all sentencing recommendations, said no, this case

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Speaker 2: is going to go forward, and they dismissed his motion

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Speaker 2: try to get everything thrown out exactly.

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Speaker 7: And the court also said to missiles at this stage

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Speaker 7: are extremely rare, number one, and this case will proceed

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Speaker 7: with full evidence your review. In other words, nice try, counselor,

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Speaker 7: but we ain't playing today. Okay, So let's educate our

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Speaker 7: public on how this is going to work. Because normally

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Speaker 7: there is an individual what are a hearing officer who

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Speaker 7: essentially hears both sides of the case. Roketa side would

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Speaker 7: present his, the Disciplinary Commission would present theirs, and then

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Speaker 7: this hearing officer would make a recommendation to the five

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Speaker 7: members of Indiana Supreme Court and they can do with

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Speaker 7: that what they want.

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Speaker 4: Is that correct? Exactly?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Now, because Roketa cries about everything, the Supreme Court appears

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Speaker 2: to have said, well, we're gonna in We're gonna make

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Speaker 2: sure this. Everybody knows this is above board, and you

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Speaker 2: can't say some gotcha guy is in charge of everything.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to take three distinguished members of our profession,

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Speaker 2: two of them state Appeals Court judges and one are

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Speaker 2: respected attorney, and we're going to have not one, not two,

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Speaker 2: but three hearing officers to make some sort of recommendation

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Speaker 2: to us.

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Speaker 4: Is that correct?

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Speaker 7: And that show yeah, because number one did it for

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Speaker 7: a couple of reasons. Number one, Rakeda appears in front

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Speaker 7: of courts all the time because no attorney general. So

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Speaker 7: there's also political polarizing political figure, and there's a political

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Speaker 7: overlay to his allegation. So so number one, they want

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Speaker 7: to avoid the appearance of bias. I want to make

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Speaker 7: this as as bias free as human LEAs, yes possible.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of point number one.

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Speaker 7: Point number two to show that, hey, this is the

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Speaker 7: high profile matter because the only it's not that that

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Speaker 7: they don't do three hearing officers, but usually it's like

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Speaker 7: for judges and for some major major issue. And so

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Speaker 7: for them to pull out the the three here in officers,

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Speaker 7: to be honest with, I'm surprised didn't pull five.

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Speaker 4: Just how serious this is. And and the ratification for

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Speaker 4: the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And then those three people will make a recommendation

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Speaker 2: of the Supreme Court, and then they will decide whether

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Speaker 2: they could tell or by go home, Roketa's.

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Speaker 1: In the clear.

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Speaker 2: They could suspend his law license, they could terminate his

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Speaker 2: law license, right like, there's the who knows what the

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Speaker 2: court is going to do? Now, what's interesting on this

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Speaker 2: The last time, Raketa was in front of the court

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Speaker 2: and he got I think most people think it's a

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Speaker 2: pretty sweetheart deal, which was just a small fine and

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Speaker 2: a reprimand and then go home. It was two to

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Speaker 2: three to two with the court right, and one of

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Speaker 2: the judges who agreed to accept that deal last time

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Speaker 2: was Judge Molterter correct, he was the deciding vote for

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Speaker 2: lack of a better term, Here's what he had to

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Speaker 2: say when they rejected Rokeita's motion to try to get

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Speaker 2: this thing thrown out. Quote, well, we were only at

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Speaker 2: this accing to Capitol Chronicle. While we were only at

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Speaker 2: the pleading stage. The parties discussed of the claims through

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Speaker 2: their early filings is already voluminous, voluminous. I tried that

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Speaker 2: on State Hol's happenings. I could not say that. Words

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Speaker 2: always got to embarrass myself. He nigas that means a

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Speaker 2: lot ti right, Yes, And up to this point there's submissions,

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Speaker 2: though extensive, revealed very little factual disagreement. That disagreement is vehement,

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Speaker 2: but it also seems narrow, so there may not be

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Speaker 2: much to litigate through a hearing, so we talked about

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Speaker 2: the Stateeale's happenings.

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Speaker 1: Basically, what he's saying is, the facts don't appear to

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Speaker 1: be in dispute here.

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Speaker 2: Y'all need to figure this out because you don't want

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Speaker 2: us figuring it out.

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Speaker 1: That's my interpretation of it.

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Speaker 4: What say you, I take? I take a little bit different.

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Speaker 4: I agree with you on this.

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Speaker 7: When Justus Molten said, hey, you know what, the facts

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Speaker 7: are pretty clear. I mean, you said what you said.

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Speaker 7: The question is is what's the penalty for for which said?

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Speaker 7: Is Is it a free speech first amount issue? Which

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Speaker 7: I doubt very seriously it is, because.

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Speaker 2: That's where Okia keeps trying to say, which comes back

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Speaker 2: to what we talked about here. I have freedom of speech,

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Speaker 2: Casey has freedom of speech, not when we're here, because

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Speaker 2: we agree for the privilege of being able to broadcast

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Speaker 2: across the state of Indiana on terrestrial radio airwaves that

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Speaker 2: there are just certain words we cannot say. You don't

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Speaker 2: he keeps trying to do this freedom of speech thing.

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Speaker 2: You do not have unlimited freedom of speech. When you

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Speaker 2: agree to join a club, you agree to play by

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Speaker 2: their rules.

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Speaker 7: And by the way, the other issue, too is it's

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Speaker 7: not so much to what he said, because everybody miss it.

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Speaker 4: He said it.

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Speaker 7: The question is did you lie about you know, did

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Speaker 7: you lie about the settlement agreement? And say, well, I

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Speaker 7: only did it.

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Speaker 4: Because blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 7: Otherwise I would have done I wouldn't meant anything like No,

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Speaker 7: you can't do that, and when you do that, you

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Speaker 7: hurt the judicial system. People don't are people already dislike

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Speaker 7: us lawyers to begin with. Just as for why you

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Speaker 7: know people can't stand us to begin with, You're not

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Speaker 7: helping the profession, and it violates the rules of professional conduct.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a line in an M and M song

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Speaker 2: and it said something like, but slim, I'm an innocent victim.

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Speaker 1: You're not an innocent victim. You are the attorney general

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Speaker 1: for the state of Indiana.

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Speaker 3: You have this law licens.

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Speaker 1: Everyone knows the rules.

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Speaker 2: When you take it, stop acting like you're some sort

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Speaker 2: of victim of an assault on free speech.

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Speaker 7: I thought you gonna two trailer park girls go around

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Speaker 7: the outside. All right, with that, we're gonna do to

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Speaker 7: you and everyone else. Don'll give your boss thank you,

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Speaker 7: all right, that's gonna do it for us today. Great job, Casey.

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Speaker 7: Great job, Kevin, and most rearly, great job to you,

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Speaker 7: the listener. Without you, there is no hus sick around.

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