1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Line from the Heartland and the crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: Tony Kats today. So it's a big meeting. 3 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: I'm staring at the UH at the White House right now. 4 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: You have got everybody looking good, lots of military lining 5 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: the driveway, and the conversation will begin soon enough with 6 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: President Zelenski and President Trump and accompanying them all the 7 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: leaders of Europe, everyone who's got a stake in whether 8 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: or not there's a piece deal, which I am convinced 9 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: is the deal of hey, Zelenski, give up a little 10 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: bit of land and make sure that we're safe from 11 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: Russian aggression for now. Is that not it? Because I'm 12 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 2: pretty much convinced that that's exactly it. Tony Katz, Tony 13 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: Kats Today, Good to be with you. Find everything over 14 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: at Tony kats dot com. So first things first, this 15 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: is the first meeting between Trump and Zelenski at the 16 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: Oval since the blow up. 17 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: This isn't the first time they've seen each. 18 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: Other since the blow up. Remember they were there at 19 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: the Vatican and it was the two of them sitting 20 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: right across from each other having a pretty deep chat. 21 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: So they have spoken since that moment in the Oval 22 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: where JD. Vance was talking about diplomacy, and Zelenski said, 23 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: what are you talking about diplomacy. We've tried diplomacy with 24 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: the Russians, so the Russians it can't be trusted. What 25 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 2: a he out of your mind? To which then Vance said, 26 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: well you could at least say thank you. I still 27 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: argue not Vance's finest moment, and the guy is smart 28 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: enough to have very, very very fine moments. But the 29 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 2: meeting between Trump and Zelenski, I'm sorry, between Trump and 30 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: Putin on Friday leads us now to this meeting today. 31 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: What happened in that meeting, Well, we don't actually know. 32 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: We know that the conversation was we're going to have 33 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 2: a cease fire or or there are going to be 34 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: some very serious sanctions placed on. 35 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: Russia. That's not what happened. 36 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 2: There are no extra sanctions right now placed on Russia. 37 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 3: Part of what happened. 38 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: Was President Trump saying, hey, I know we talked sees fire, 39 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: but now we can possibly have a peace deal. So 40 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: let's focus on a peace deal, shall we. It was 41 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: a pivot. Now, if you ask the left, nothing matters. 42 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: Nothing matters because they didn't get what they wanted. No 43 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: way they got exactly what they wanted. What they wanted 44 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 2: was to be able to say, my gosh, Trump did this, 45 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: My gosh, Trump was terrible, My gosh, Trump failed at this. 46 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: This is all they want, isn't that right? Representative Eric 47 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: Swalwell colors in your sense of where this goes from here. 48 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: Well, if you're europe you're quite worried now because you 49 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: just saw the president of the United States achieve zero 50 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 4: and they will have to ask themselves what more are 51 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 4: they willing to do, knowing that they two could be 52 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 4: thrown under the bus if Russia ever moved farther west. 53 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 4: But as far as objectives, I was hoping to hear 54 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 4: that there would be a trilateral meeting that didn't come 55 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 4: out of this. I was hoping to hear there be 56 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 4: a ceasefire that didn't come out of this. And I 57 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 4: was hoping to at least hear about the territory that 58 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 4: would be proposed or exchanged by both sides. 59 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: You were not hoping to hear anything. You didn't hope 60 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: that this worked. You wanted complete and total abject failure, 61 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 2: because that's the only thing you know how to project. 62 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: If you take a look at the MSNBC. By the way, 63 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 2: they're changing the name to ms Now that's gonna be 64 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: the new network. 65 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 3: You take a look at the screen. 66 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: There's the scolds Nicole Wallace, there's the fraud Jensaki. These 67 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: people are desperate to say Trump failed on every level, 68 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: all the time, in all the places, and then he says. 69 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: This that didn't come out of this. 70 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 4: Look, Alicia, I don't know if Donald Trump is or 71 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 4: is not a Russian asset. I do know that at 72 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 4: press conference is like this, and like at Helsinki, he 73 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 4: certainly acts like one. 74 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if Representative Eric Swalwell is a cuck 75 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: who totally didn't bang a Chinese spy, but I do 76 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 2: know there's absolutely no way he banged a Chinese spy. 77 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 3: Is this what we do now? 78 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 2: This is considered some great intellect. They have nothing to offer, 79 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: they have nothing to share, They have absolutely nothing to say. 80 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: What they were hoping for was nothing. What happen so 81 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: we could say, look how terrible Donald Trump is. There's 82 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 2: an argument to be had regarding do you allow Vladimir 83 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: Putin on American soil? 84 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 3: Do you give him that kind of uplift. 85 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 2: It's a unique question because it really goes back to 86 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety style republicanism or Neoconism, or however you want 87 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: to describe it. You wouldn't elevate the enemy, right, you wouldn't. 88 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: You wouldn't do that. And I think that there is 89 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 2: still an argument for that. However, when you're talking about 90 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 2: what Trump has put forth here, he is staking his 91 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: reputation on the deal. 92 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 5: He is. 93 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 3: First things first, I if I if. 94 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: I was president, well then this never would have happened, 95 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 2: to which, by the way, Putin in the meeting are 96 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 2: after the meeting of the press conference, he agreed with that, 97 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's true. If Trump or president, this never 98 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: would have happened. Now they're he's not saying it the 99 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 2: way Trump's saying it. He's saying that Trump would have 100 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: given them some concession or gotten them some thing. 101 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: I think everybody understands. 102 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: That, right that the the overly generous hay neighbor Fred 103 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: Rogers style of Vladimir Putin is kind of kind of nonsensical. 104 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's actually buying into that. But for 105 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: Trump to get the deal is what matters. It's always 106 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: about the deal. And he said this is what's gonna 107 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: take this is what's gonna take to get the deal. 108 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: We got to meet. 109 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: So they meet on American soil, not Russian soil, so 110 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: Putin's coming to him. 111 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: And then they engage a bit of stagecraft. 112 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: First, Putin has to drive by all these fighters, all 113 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: of our fighter debts just lined up ready to go. 114 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: And then as they're walking, the red carpet B two 115 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: bomber comes overhead, flyingked by fighters. It's a good bit 116 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: of stagecraft. I heard some people say, oh, this just 117 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: showed how weak Trump is. It's no, no, it didn't. 118 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: No, it didn't. 119 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: The show of force being subliminal doesn't mean that it 120 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: doesn't work. And as always, and as we've discussed numerous times, 121 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: this is a problem for the left the show of 122 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: force because they don't like to show force. Barack Obama 123 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: never ever, ever, ever wanted to show any force at all. 124 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 3: He wanted to show weakness. 125 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: He wanted to would recalcuitrants be the right word, That 126 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: was constant and continual. That goes along with the apology 127 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: tour that he took. And if you're watching the live 128 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: stream over their YouTube, Tony Kats Twitter x, Tony Katz Facebook, 129 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: Tony Cats Radio the suburbans are starting to come forward, 130 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 2: and world leaders are getting ready to step out of 131 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 2: these these vehicles. 132 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 3: We start with I'm not sure. 133 00:08:55,679 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: Oh that is Mark Root, the Secretary General of NATO. 134 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: Right there, a meeting with Monica Crowley, who takes care 135 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 2: of these types of situations for the White House. She 136 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: was in the first term as well, formerly of Fox News. 137 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely lovely, lovely person. So these leaders are going to 138 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: be arriving. The meeting itself isn't a failure. Even though 139 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: we heard, we were told that Putin had to agree 140 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: to a cease fire or there would be serious, serious sanctions. 141 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: The sanctions aren't coming. The sanctions are not coming. Thereafter 142 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 2: the peace deal which brings us to this meeting. Now 143 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: Trump gets done with the meeting that the left ones 144 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: to say was terrible although they know nothing. And what's 145 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: the first thing that happens. Trump is on the phone 146 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: with European leaders. Trump is on the phone with Vladimir 147 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: Lenski Ukraine. 148 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: Now you've got this meeting. Everybody is there. 149 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: By the way, traffic in DC must suck. Right now, 150 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: here's my take of what is about to come. First, 151 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 2: I would remind you to look at a map. It's 152 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 2: super super important to do. You always got to be 153 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 2: aware of what it is that that is happening and 154 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: why it matters. 155 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 3: This is the situation. It's a land bridge. 156 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: The Russians don't want to connect to Chrimea through what's 157 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: known as the Kirch Bridge, which connects the Man of 158 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: Russia to Krimea, a bridge that the Ukrainians were able 159 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: to destroy. 160 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 3: They want to be able to get over in other ways. 161 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 2: So Danetsk Luhansk, which is the donbask Za Porzia, another 162 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: area to the south in Kiirson. 163 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 3: Having control of these areas where the Russians do give 164 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: them this land. 165 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: Bridge to Krirea, more access to the Black Sea, more 166 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: opportunities in terms of trade, more opportunities in terms of 167 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 2: well exerting Russian power. 168 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 3: This is the this is the goal. Now. 169 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: The goal is the whole of Ukraine. We shouldn't think otherwise. 170 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: The goal is ten thousand percent the whole of Ukraine. 171 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: The goal is to be an expansionist power. 172 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 3: The goal is. 173 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: Then to see what else can you do. This is 174 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: the way the Russians think. It's not a debate. So 175 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: this brings us to this brings us to the concept 176 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: of what do the Europeans want? Long has the conversation 177 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: been that what we are seeing in the end involves 178 00:11:55,440 --> 00:12:03,479 Speaker 2: Ukraine giving up land. Ukraine is going to give up land. 179 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: That's the only way this is going to work. Ukraine 180 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: has to say, in order to have peace, we can't 181 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: force the Americans to fight this for us. We can't 182 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: force the Europeans to fight this for us. We have 183 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: to give up these areas. It's the only way I 184 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: think it sucks. One could argue that if this was 185 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 2: the United States of nineteen ninety seven, even under Mell Clinton, 186 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: if this was the United States under Bush two thousand 187 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: and two, if this will even post September eleventh, if 188 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: this was the United States under the first Bush Well, 189 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 2: then unquestionably you would see movement by the United States 190 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: in Ukraine to keep Rush out. One could argue that, 191 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: and certainly one could argue what Ukraine was like at 192 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: that time go with me on the theory. 193 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 3: That isn't the case today. 194 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: And the case today from the Europeans is, hey, we're 195 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: not interested in rush on our doorstep. And you may 196 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: not like it, Ukraine, but this geography thing is a 197 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: real thing, and you are the buffer zone. See, the 198 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: United States, like you said, benefits from being an ocean 199 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 2: away from the rest of this madness. They've got a 200 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 2: lot of natural protection, do the Americans? Lucky bastards, But 201 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 2: that's the way that goes, and it probably helped them 202 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: turn into the indispensable superpower worth trillions, the most giant, 203 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: spectacular nation you've ever seen. You are not so lucky. 204 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: Kier Starmer's showing up right now, the Prime Minister of 205 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: the United Kingdom, who should be excoriated for recognizing the 206 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: idea of Palestine as a state. Deal with that. Later. 207 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: I believe the Europeans are going to say, without question, 208 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: you got to give up the land because we need 209 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 2: to keep the Russians at bay. 210 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: And if you do. 211 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: That, well, you're not going to be a NATO officially 212 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: a NATO partner, but you'll get more protection. We'll have 213 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 2: more security forces. We'll do this and we'll do that. 214 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: We'll make these investments. That's what's coming now. If you 215 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: would disagree with me, I. 216 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 3: Want to hear it. 217 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: I want to hear it all eight three three four 218 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 2: six eight eight six sixt' nine eight three three Got 219 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: Tony twitter X Tony Katz tony At tony kats dot. 220 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: Com tell me if you Think i'm. 221 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 3: Wrong but that's WHERE i think this is. 222 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: Going make it, stop make the killing, stop Because russia 223 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: cannot last These ukrainians all day. Long it's not a. 224 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: Debate so this is WHERE i think it's. Going this 225 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: is HOW i think it's gonna. Work the pressure isn't 226 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: gonna come from The United. States the pressure is not 227 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: gonna come from THE. Us it's gonna come From. Europe 228 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 2: I'm Tony. Katz this Is Tony Katz. Today playboy is 229 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 2: moving itself. 230 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 6: To. 231 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: Florida would you say In? 232 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 2: California, no rational person is staying In. 233 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 3: CALIFORNIA i, mean. 234 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: Let's let's be. Clear the, uh how how would you describe? 235 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: This the? 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Level they're going to move 247 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: the headquarters FROM la To Miami. Beach they want to 248 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: revitalize the, brand and so therefore they Think miami is 249 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: the right city to do. That and of Course florida's 250 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: business friendly as opposed To, california which business what's the 251 00:16:55,040 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: right word? Sucks that's, right that's it right? There so 252 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 2: how many more times does this have to? Happen Maybe 253 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: california is, like you know, what we never Wanted playboy, 254 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 2: Anyway we did everything we were gonna do in the. 255 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 3: Grotto and now we're gonna have to drain that. Thing, no, no, 256 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 3: no you don't have to drain the. 257 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: Grotto you have to burn the grotto to the ground 258 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 2: then cover the whole thing with, cement because that is 259 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: a hasmad area is what is but businesses Leaving, California no. 260 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 2: KIDDING I Rick, perry the former governor Of, texas used 261 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 2: to discuss the fact that he would head To california 262 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: every few, weeks talk to, businesses try and get them 263 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: to come Leave, california come To. 264 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 3: Texas Leave, california come To. 265 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: Texas that Was Rick. 266 00:17:53,560 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: Perry that was a while. Ago do governors do that any? 267 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 3: More do they. 268 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 2: Engage with any level of proactiveness to go out there 269 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: and ATTRACT. 270 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 3: I sometimes wonder if it's just my state WHERE. 271 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 2: I don't think enough is happening on that local, level 272 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 2: on that state, level or is it? Everybody is anybody, 273 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 2: like you know? What they're doing a pretty good. Job 274 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 2: AND i Assume florida is one, place you, know at 275 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: least for the political, right they're, like you know, What. 276 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 3: DeSantis is actually getting things. 277 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: Done there's a safe and security, component there's a business outreach. 278 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 2: Component Greg abbott's going after These democrats. 279 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 3: Who wouldn't engage the vote on. 280 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: Redistracting he has been proactive about trying to secure the, 281 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 2: border even When Joe biden said you can't do. 282 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,959 Speaker 3: That he was taking fights to The Supreme. Court not. 283 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 2: Bad we know That Brian kemp In georgia has very 284 00:18:55,560 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: very good. Popularity governors used to be this place where 285 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: you look to as a proving ground in running for. 286 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: Office is anybody looking at a governor right now for the. 287 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 2: FUTURE i, mean never. 288 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 3: Mind The vans is gonna. 289 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 2: Run never mind That rubio is still, there even though 290 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: he says he's not gonna run a name for you two, 291 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 2: governors and that seems to be, it BECAUSE i don't 292 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 2: even Think younkin From virginia peers and other people's, conversations 293 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 2: governor no longer the place to make your. Bones this 294 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: Is Tony katz. Today so The president Of, Finland Alexander, stubb. 295 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: Just entered The oval and The finland story and being 296 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 3: part of this is pretty. Interesting Tony. 297 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 2: Katz Tony katz, Today you've Got european leaders And zelensky 298 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: all meeting at The White. House everybody is showing. Up 299 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 2: the black suburbans are lined up and one by one 300 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 2: they're being received By Monica, crowley who does this work 301 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 2: for The White, house and the flags of the respective 302 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: nations are brought, out one at a time as this 303 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: world leader is. Received this coming after the meeting With 304 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 2: Vladimir putin And Donald trump In alaska where they decided 305 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: Where trump decided that it was a, pivot and the 306 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 2: pivot was from ceasefire to peace. 307 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 3: DEAL i believe that. 308 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: The european nations are there to in one, voice say 309 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: To Vladimir, zelenski you're going to give up this land 310 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 2: and you're going to get security guarantees FROM, us and 311 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: we're going to at least keep this at bay for 312 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: maybe a, decade maybe, longer because Maybe putin will. Die 313 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 2: BUT i think that's what's coming. Here it is going 314 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: to be a land give unless you, know you can 315 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: go the other way and, say what you're going to 316 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 2: get is some kind of Outrageous european peacekeeping force where 317 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 2: they decide that this is what's. Valuable BUT i brought this. 318 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: UP i don't see that latter. ONE i see it 319 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: as the first. ONE i brought this up because Of. 320 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 2: Finland finland was forever not IN Nato North Atlantic treaty, 321 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 2: organization which was created to deal with The russian. Threat, 322 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 2: finland which shares the border With, russia was never going 323 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: to poke the, bear AND i mean literally not going 324 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: to poke the. Bear that all, changed not as much 325 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 2: with The russian invasion Of, ukraine but the recognition that 326 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: Under Joe, biden you didn't know if there was anybody 327 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: there to. Help certainly you already knew Where trump was On. 328 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 2: Ukraine you already knew that where some of this new 329 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: right whatever YOU i didn't even know. 330 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 7: What you call, that. 331 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 3: Where they Were you couldn't Trust. Biden the Reason. 332 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: Europe got its back together is because they looked At 333 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: biden and, said if we don't Have american, leadership we 334 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: actually have to depend on, ourselves which Made trump's demand 335 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 2: of two percent OF gdp all of a sudden look 336 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: like a. Deal Remember trump made that demand when he 337 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 2: was in, office and nations were, like you can't demand, 338 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: this and how dare you and why you ask us 339 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 2: for money after all these? Years and his answer, was 340 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 2: we've been paid for you for. Forever where are the? 341 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 2: Deterrent you get to treat us like, garbage you get 342 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: to have unfair trade, deals we're paying for your, security 343 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: and then you have the audacity to Engage nordstream, too 344 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 2: to get oil from The russians to fund them going after. 345 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 2: You what are we all? Insane it was a very 346 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 2: rational point of you From President. Trump, NOW i don't 347 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 2: totally ascribe to the view because while indeed The europeans 348 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 2: don't show you the respect that they damn well, should 349 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 2: on that, part we. AGREED i believe you still want 350 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 2: to be the top, dog and you don't ever want 351 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 2: to show yourself as not or willing to walk away 352 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: from the position because others fill the. Void what we 353 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 2: saw was The europeans, SAYING i guess we're gonna take 354 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: care of. Ourselves and so When trump started talking about 355 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 2: five percent OF gdp TO, nato having EVERY nato nation 356 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 2: giving five percent to THE nato, alliance of course The United. 357 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 3: States would give more because OUR gdp is so much. 358 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 2: Larger you Saw Mark, root The Secretary general OF, nato say, 359 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 2: absolutely this is. Fantastic trump is, daddy, Right that's how 360 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: that whole thing comes, together because he know this is 361 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 2: good FER, nado and he doesn't mind being in, charge 362 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 2: because being The Secretary general of The North Atlantic Treaty 363 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: organization is a really good. Title like in a world of, 364 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: titles That's president of The United, States Secretary general of 365 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 2: The North Atlantic Treaty, Organization master of all, steaks, right 366 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 2: those are MY i don't KNOW i invented the third. 367 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 2: One that's a. Dream that is a Dream steaks and 368 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 2: then game show, host WHICH i would give up everything. 369 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 3: In radio to be a game show. HOST i don't 370 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 3: even know What i'm. Doing what is the point of all? 371 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 2: This IMMEDIATELY i should be saying we need to bring 372 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 2: back jokers. WILD i am so ready look At Steve 373 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: harvey family feud making nine bajillion. Dollars i'll take four 374 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 2: and a half pajillion. Dollar you know, what three bajillion. 375 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 2: DOLLARS i don't want to negotiate against, myself But i'll do. 376 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 2: It you, Out, Yeah i'm holding firm at three. Bajillion 377 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: so much, money so much. 378 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 3: Money The finns. 379 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: Se That biden isn't, there so Maybe america is not. 380 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: There they JOIN nato because with this expansion of power 381 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 2: that is, putin this can get ugly. Quick maybe we 382 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 2: want a few more people on our. Side now you've 383 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 2: got the prime MINISTER i believe, it is it the 384 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 2: prime minister or the president Of? 385 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 3: Germany coming? 386 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 2: Next right? There, now that would be the prime. Minister 387 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 2: now it'll be the chancellor they do chancellors or over 388 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 2: there In germany that would be shores as sc Chr 389 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 2: Z i, believe or is it His? Murz Sorry, murz, 390 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 2: sorry Apologies Friedrich murz m E rz who has just 391 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 2: now appeared at The White. House so this is gonna keep. Going, 392 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: now is there gonna be some group? Meeting they're all 393 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 2: gonna be sitting around a. TABLE i don't, know but 394 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: nobody has discussed the. Optics, here allow me for a, 395 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 2: moment compare this To Joe. Biden Joe biden couldn't run 396 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 2: his own cabinet. Meetings Joe biden ran the cat last cabinet. 397 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 2: Meeting you saw it with your own. Eyes and Here's Donald. 398 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 2: Trump he flies To, alaska he sits for two and 399 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 2: a half hours With Vladimir. Putin they have a press. Conference, 400 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 2: afterwards he gets on a. Plane he doesn't take a. 401 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 2: Nap he's calling every single one one of these leaders 402 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 2: and he's talking an hour plus to The lelenski gets. 403 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 2: HOME i think it was To. Bedminster there his golf 404 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 2: course there In New, jersey and five hours later he's. 405 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 3: Golfing and now. 406 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 2: Here we, have. 407 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 3: Just two days, later everybody coming to see. 408 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 2: Him and here he's going to sit at this. Table 409 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: everyone's going to be around the, table engaged. In look 410 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 2: at What trump is doing to try and bring everybody 411 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 2: together to get. Peace THE un couldn't do. This THE 412 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: un couldn't dream of. This then, again THE un has 413 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 2: never met a death. Spot they didn't LOVE i, mean 414 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: you're talking about an organization that supports, Amass so what 415 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: do you expect the left can try and you, know 416 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: talk this stuff down all they, want all they, Want 417 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 2: But i'm telling, you the visual here is, massive absolutely, incredible. 418 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 2: Undeniable it doesn't mean they're gonna get a. DEAL i 419 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 2: didn't say. THAT i didn't say that that was going to. 420 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 2: HAPPEN i said that the look shows That trump is 421 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: the guy in. Charge trump is leading the world towards. 422 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: Peace trump is the guy who the other nations. Respect 423 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 2: remember when we were told we were laughed at Under 424 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 2: trump and they, said, Oh trump doesn't have any respect 425 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 2: to no other nation like here it. Is AND i 426 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: swear to if he feeds these people, McDonald's i'm going 427 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 2: to be overjoyed because The Prime sir Of Italy maloney 428 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 2: will totally totally go down down and enjoy a big. 429 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 2: Mac absolutely go to town on. That that girl is. 430 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 2: Fantastic and Oh i'm gonna get so many hits for 431 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 2: calling her. Girl oh my, god but have you seen 432 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 2: her eye? Rolls have you seen her eye? Rolls? 433 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 3: Hey please don't get upset with. 434 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: Me for calling her. 435 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 3: Girl i'll Call Eric swawall girl. Too would that be all? 436 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 2: Right was that? 437 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,719 Speaker 3: Better had to pull myself out of WHAT i had? 438 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 3: Created that's my. 439 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: Fault maloney has shown herself to be tough as. Nails 440 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 2: the eye rolls the what is wrong with all you? 441 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 2: People the total lack of, leadership and she shows it so. 442 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 2: Often she shows that she so appreciates concepts of. 443 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,959 Speaker 3: Strength it's, great it is. 444 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 2: Great let me get let me as this is still 445 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 2: happening and leaders are still A i bring you the gold, 446 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 2: rush the gold rush taking place right now In South. 447 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 2: Dakota so gold is more than three thousand dollars an, 448 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: ounce and so people are now returning To South dakota 449 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 2: looking for. Gold and you say to, me gold, rush 450 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 2: isn't That? California the forty nine ers and everything? Else, 451 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: well The Black hills have one point two million acres 452 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 2: extending Into, wyoming. 453 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 3: And it seems that gold mines. 454 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: There are starting to be gold. 455 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 3: Mines people are showing, up they're. 456 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 2: Exploring companies have proposals before state and federal, agencies and 457 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: they're trying to put another gold mine in. 458 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 3: So Native. Americans environmentalists arguing. 459 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 2: That the projects are close to sacred sites are going 460 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: to contaminate waterways and permanently scar the. 461 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 3: Landscape two things. 462 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: Here, first the environmentalist will be pushed to the. Side, 463 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: secondly The Native american tribes will be paid. 464 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 3: Off AND i would argue rightfully, SO. 465 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 2: I believe It's alaska that in the drilling that takes place, 466 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 2: there the people get to participate in the success financial 467 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 2: success that. CREATES i have zero issue with if you 468 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 2: are part of the tribe from that, area you participating in. 469 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: THAT i really don't of all the things that we 470 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 2: can fight, ABOUT i don't know if that one's the 471 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: one to fight. ABOUT i think that's the. Gimme if 472 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 2: you say to, Me, tony is that? Reparations it's an, 473 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 2: interesting interesting. QUESTION i would argue That america has a 474 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 2: history here Regarding Native, americans AND i don't know IF 475 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: i have the answer for how one fixes. 476 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 8: That. 477 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 2: NOW i could go a little bit stronger in this 478 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 2: the a gold mine belongs to the state and therefore 479 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 2: the people of the state should be able to benefit from, 480 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 2: it not just the. Tribe and AS i think about 481 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 2: it here with, you that's probably the better, answer AND 482 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 2: i think that's how these things are going to come to. 483 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 2: BE i don't think the environmentalist is going to win this. 484 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 2: Fight there's a there's a. 485 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 3: Push on for. 486 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 2: Gold you have, it go get, it and there are 487 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 2: ways to do these. Things I'm Tony katz who this 488 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 2: Is tony Kats. Today world leaders keep arriving at The White, 489 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 2: house and it looks like is that the side THERE 490 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 2: A zelenski might be showing up, separately coming from a 491 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 2: different entrance actually to be greeted By President. 492 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 3: Trump we will keep AND i on. 493 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 2: THAT msnbc ladies and, gentlemen they have got a new. 494 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 9: Name we will BECOME MS, now which stands for my 495 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 9: source for, news opinion and the. World and, Look, andrew 496 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 9: they even have a graphic UP i. 497 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 2: Like there it is actually look the graphic was drawn 498 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 2: by my seven year old. Cousin he's a good. 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SIGN 524 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 2: i don't, KNOW i Don't i'm gona have to play 525 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 2: into the negative spaces and see what they're trying to 526 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 2: tell me in between the lines news opinion and the 527 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 2: world only one opinion though not opinions. 528 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 10: Opinion you really put that one right on the. Nose 529 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 10: oh good, lord keep it. Here this Is Tony Kats. 530 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 10: Today find everything At tony kats dot. 531 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: Com why from The heartland and The crossroads Of, america 532 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: It's Tony kats. 533 00:35:47,760 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 11: Today so you have got right now world leaders showing 534 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 11: up at The White, House Kiers, Stormer. 535 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 2: Germany I'm mande My, Crown, France Alexander Stuva. Finland that's, 536 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 2: right The finns are. 537 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 3: Here you know it's getting. 538 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 2: Serious how DO i not have The finland song From Monty. 539 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:54,760 Speaker 2: PYTHON i, MEAN i swear to you, Guys i'm falling 540 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 2: down on the job AND i. Apologize Tony, Katz Tony katz, 541 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 2: today good to be with. You eight three three four 542 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 2: six eight eight six six' nine eight Three Three. Got 543 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 2: tony that's how you get to be a part of. 544 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,760 Speaker 2: The show that's how you get to. Get involved tonytonikats. 545 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 2: Dot com if you've got, an email you want To 546 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 2: send twitter Ex To. Tony kats we see, it, All 547 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 2: people we see every bit. Of, it this, of course 548 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 2: all taking place after the Meeting With president Trump And 549 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 2: vladimir putin that took Place in alaska and on on 550 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 2: the live stream there on the YouTube. And Twitter X 551 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 2: is lenski willing to sell the? Occupied territory money is 552 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 2: always a partial, Consideration HERE but i think the larger 553 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 2: conversation is are we now in a place where we 554 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 2: agree that this is going to be land and what does? 555 00:37:54,520 --> 00:38:00,919 Speaker 2: It mean we shouldn't simply argue BECAUSE is i think 556 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 2: a very very odd argument, that yep they gave up land, 557 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 2: for peace and and and there. It is. 558 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 3: That's it they. 559 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 2: Gave up they gave up some land and, and uh 560 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 2: somehow this exists in. A vacuum. 561 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 3: It doesn't it's that's. A precedent. 562 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 2: We, understand that. 563 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 3: Don't we it sets a precedent that if you just walk. 564 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 2: In to a smaller neighbor. 565 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 3: And take, their stuff. 566 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 2: They may put up a little bit of, a fight 567 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:37,919 Speaker 2: but eventually you'll get. 568 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 3: Their stuff. 569 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 2: So what what. 570 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 3: Does one what does one make? 571 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,760 Speaker 2: Of, this first if you're taking a Look at puttin 572 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 2: himself and you're taking a look at, this deal it 573 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 2: starts with a very very precarious position. 574 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 3: That You Trust. 575 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 2: Vladimir putin it was a very good Piece From, douglas 576 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 2: murray who was actually giving his Prompts, to trump saying 577 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 2: That the alaska meeting that took place was, a Start 578 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 2: but putin is up to his old Tricks and trump. 579 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 2: Knows it so it's the it's the argument that everybody 580 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 2: understands what's going. On here everybody understands what it Is 581 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 2: that putin is trying. To do, he's, saying, look no 582 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,760 Speaker 2: you see the Problem. With ukraine And if ukraine won't listen, 583 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 2: to reason and You know ukraine, Tried this ukraine, Did 584 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 2: that ukraine would, just stop well then well then they 585 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 2: are sure it'll all. Be fine, wink, wink, nudge nudge say. No, 586 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 2: MORE seriously i need to Have More monty python in. 587 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 2: The soundboard what's wrong? With me. 588 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 3: Anybody Who Trusts vladimir putin is out of. 589 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 8: Their. 590 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 2: Head now there was a lot of talk over the 591 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 2: last year, about how, my Gosh the zelensky's terrible and the, 592 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 2: government's terrible and the government, is This and putin's just, 593 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 2: You see putin is the guy who's really trying to make. 594 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,879 Speaker 2: Things better putin's the one who's. Been wrong no part 595 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 2: of that was. Ever true it was an insane philosophy 596 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 2: FROM what i think they're calling The. NEW right i 597 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 2: try not to pay too much attention to these things 598 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 2: in terms of they, name this they, name that and 599 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 2: they name, the other. 600 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 3: Cause it's all just it's all. 601 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 2: Just nutty if You Trust, vladimir putin you're out of, 602 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 2: your mind that is different than whether or not you make. 603 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 2: A deal and you're gonna say, To, me tony how 604 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 2: are these? Things different trump lives in the. Following philosophy 605 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 2: you make the best deal, you can and it lasts 606 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 2: as long as. It lasts part of the of the 607 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 2: problem is that there is this this this belief that 608 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 2: somehow a deal is going to last. 609 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 3: For forever that's not that's not how. It works deals 610 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 3: don't last. For forever. They don't they. Just don't so 611 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 3: we start with this. 612 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,919 Speaker 2: Generalized idea that somehow something can. 613 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 3: Be DONE. 614 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 2: That's i think the biggest, misnomer here, that somehow of 615 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 2: course this can be. 616 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 3: Worked, out no what if. It can't if you think 617 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 3: you could. 618 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 2: Work this, out militarily are you talking about you're going 619 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 2: to work it out by walking in there with our 620 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 2: forces and quite. 621 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,040 Speaker 3: Literally Killing every russian soldier. 622 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 2: There is or are you going to do one of those? 623 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 2: Peacekeeping force isn't it? Nevery now and then they're gonna shoot? 624 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 2: Never now and then you're gonna shoot and a guy's gonna, 625 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 2: die here and a guy's gonna, die there. 626 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 3: And that goes on for. 627 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 2: Forty years this is the Thing that, AMERICANS allegedly i guess. 628 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 3: Are tired of that's the forever war that they. Don't. 629 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 2: Want now one of the things they've never been asked 630 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 2: is isn't it preferable to the other side of? The 631 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:40,439 Speaker 2: coin and the other side of the Coin is russia steam, rolls, here, here, 632 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:46,800 Speaker 2: here here. And here isn't it Better than, russian expansionism 633 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 2: which is To say. Chinese expansionism isn't there a world 634 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 2: situation that gets Created when america keeps the peace By 635 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 2: which america gets. To, thrive okay you got to change 636 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 2: a trade, deal here do some. Other things i'm not 637 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 2: saying that we shouldn't be doing. Those things i'm not 638 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 2: saying that we haven't been abused for a good long 639 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 2: time and a whole bunch. Of subjects i'm asking about the, 640 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 2: basic tenant the basic tenant of we're the ones, in charge, 641 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 2: and yes we can do all the things at all. 642 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 3: The, places now you can't do all the things in all. 643 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 2: The places if you're spending the way, we spend and 644 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 2: spending on things that create, no. Value etc certainly you 645 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,840 Speaker 2: want to argue that why should we be spending alone 646 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,840 Speaker 2: To save ukraine From this? Russian menace when It's the 647 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:42,919 Speaker 2: europeans who have far more at risk than, we do 648 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 2: far more. At risk this right here is the Arrival 649 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 2: Of vladimir zelenski pulling up In the. Chevy suburban There 650 00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 2: Is president trump right there. Stepping out did he wear? 651 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 2: A tie, oh wait, hold on that's a, collared shirt ladies. 652 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 2: And gentlemen it is a. Collared shirt it is not. 653 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 2: A tie but he is wearing a jacket and he 654 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 2: is wearing the. 655 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 3: Collar shirt that. 656 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 2: Much is happening. 657 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 8: His. 658 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 2: Left arm he Put around Zelenski BY. President, a trump 659 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 2: a little hello to, the, crowd presented and Into the 660 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 2: oval office. They go, that is in and, of itself 661 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 2: a very very big part of. The story he didn't 662 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 2: show up in the. Fatigue thing he was at a 663 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 2: meeting earlier where he was WEARING a t shirt and people, were, 664 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 2: like oh, COME on I Think Center mike lee, was, 665 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 2: like SERIOUSLY a. 666 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 3: T shirt this was a jacket and a. 667 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,319 Speaker 2: Button, down well, not tie this was. 668 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 3: A jacket the. 669 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,839 Speaker 2: BUTTON down. I think trump, was like you. Look good 670 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 2: the guy. Is NonStop so now it's. Going down so 671 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,439 Speaker 2: it's worthy for us to ask ourselves because we play 672 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 2: a part. In this we play a part In this 673 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:18,280 Speaker 2: what is it that? We want russia is. The aggressor 674 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 2: russia's always been. The aggressor russia's the bad guy in. 675 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 2: This situation. 676 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 3: So now. 677 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 2: So now do, we, Say well russia, gets land which 678 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 2: is THE way i think it's going to. Go Down 679 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,800 Speaker 2: but i'm offering up. Other possibilities if you, give land 680 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 2: you're making, a statement and that statement is aggression will, 681 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 2: be rewarded which is Exactly what starmer did IN, The 682 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 2: uk macron Did. In france you've got The Horrible mark Karney. 683 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 2: In canada i'm not sure the leaders of ports galar 684 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 2: and saying we're going To. Recognize Palestine so hamas And 685 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 2: the pinians go about murdering twelve hundred people in the 686 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 2: most horrific, way possible, take hostages and they're rewarded. WITH 687 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:15,760 Speaker 2: recognition i don't know. About you what if you're rewarded 688 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:21,240 Speaker 2: with recognition for doing something, like that it might teach 689 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 2: you to do. That again. 690 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 3: Is that what you Want? With russia. 691 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 2: The other way to look at this story is my 692 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:41,800 Speaker 2: thought was my position is you are going to see 693 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 2: a giving up. Of lands you're going to see now 694 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:51,479 Speaker 2: peacekeeping forces through security Guarantees in ukraine From The united 695 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 2: states and, other places and we should be clear this was. 696 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 2: Coming anyway if we're going to be engaged in Partnering 697 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 2: with ukraine for, rare minerals well then oh, my gosh 698 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 2: we're gonna go about protecting our investments and that's going 699 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 2: to mean guys with guns ready. 700 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 3: To fire. 701 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 2: So it would be weird that you would see the 702 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 2: give up, of, land right you see the give up 703 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 2: of land and then the security guarantee on top. Of 704 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 2: it if you've got the, security guarantee why give up? 705 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 2: ANY land, i mean that's. A question so now it 706 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 2: brings us back to the question that was asked on the. 707 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 2: Live stream it was Asked By Ken, kenneth zelenski is 708 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 2: willing to sell the? Occupied territory what if the answer 709 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 2: to that, Is no But the russians can be. Bought 710 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 2: off russia doesn't have, Any money russia doesn't have a 711 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,320 Speaker 2: ruble worth, a day none. Of it trump has alluded 712 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 2: numerous times to the idea that there are trade opportunities With, 713 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 2: the russians. 714 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 3: Numerous times that this. Has happened. 715 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 2: Are we about to see some Kind, of well they're 716 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 2: not gonna do. This anymore and we're now gonna. Do 717 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 2: that now people are, gonna say oh, my gosh you're 718 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:36,120 Speaker 2: trading With. The russians you can't Trust. The russians you 719 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 2: cannot Trust. The russians now this seems To be is 720 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 2: this inside the oval? Right now is? 721 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 3: This Live, there's witkoff. 722 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 2: There Is president Trump And, vladimir ulenski there Is A 723 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 2: vice President. Jd, vance yeah this. Is live this is happening. 724 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 2: Right now they're gonna. 725 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 3: Start talking we're going to have to throw. 726 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:06,800 Speaker 2: The break There Is, pete Hegseth the Secretary of thanks, 727 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 2: very much and that's the chargery secretary Of. 728 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 12: The President of ukraine, with us and we've had a 729 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 12: lot of, big discussions with a lot of, good TALKS 730 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 12: and i think progress is, being made very very substantial 731 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 12: progress in. Many ways we had a, good meeting as, 732 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,880 Speaker 12: you know just a short while ago With the President, 733 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 12: of RUSSIA and i think there's a possibility that something 734 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,920 Speaker 12: could come out. Of it and today's meeting is. Very 735 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:36,320 Speaker 12: important WE have i guess the seven seven very powerful Leaders, 736 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 12: from europe and we're going to be meeting with them 737 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 12: right after. This meeting and thank you very much for. 738 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,799 Speaker 13: Being here thanks so much for you, so PRESIDENT if 739 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 13: i can, so well thank you, for invitation and thank 740 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 13: you very much for your fos personal efforts to solve 741 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 13: kids and solody. Is warm thank you and using this opportunity. 742 00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 13: Too many thanks for your Wife. 743 00:49:58,880 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 12: Cost le don't do not is. 744 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 10: She signed a. 745 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 13: Letter about, our children adopted children and. 746 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 12: My wife she feels to do. You great she gave 747 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 12: the it's not to you to. YOUR wife i, want 748 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 12: yeah so this. 749 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 13: Sensitive, topic yes please and thanks for all partners and 750 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 13: that you. Supported this forematt, after all want me to 751 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 13: week and a half leaders who ARE, AROUND us Uk, 752 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 13: And france germany to. 753 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 2: The villa you need them in all. All partners so here's. 754 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 2: WHAT'S happening i have to take the radio break and 755 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,320 Speaker 2: the live. Stream continues it was a Letter That malania 756 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 2: trump Wrote To vladimir putin saying these children are being 757 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,839 Speaker 2: killed and it has. To stop And now zelenski has 758 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 2: brought a Letter For melania trump from. His wife so 759 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,840 Speaker 2: that was the. Conversation there the questions are. Being asked 760 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 2: i'll bring them. To you keep. 761 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 3: It here This Is tony kats today. 762 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 2: And it's not the. 763 00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 12: Easiest one it's it's a, tough one a lot of reasons, 764 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 12: for it and they'll be talking about it for a, 765 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 12: long time. 766 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:07,399 Speaker 2: But they'll be talking about. 767 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:11,760 Speaker 12: The, Others, Look, India pakistan we're talking about the. Big 768 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 12: places when you look at you just take a look 769 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 12: at some of. These wars you Go to africa and 770 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,800 Speaker 12: take a look At that rwanda And The congo republic 771 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,720 Speaker 12: Of The. Condo congo that's been going on for thirty. 772 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,919 Speaker 12: One years and so we've done a total of six 773 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 12: that we really, have six not including the fact That We. 774 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 2: So president trump is speaking right now In The, Oval 775 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 2: Office vladimir's. 776 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,800 Speaker 3: Lenski is next. To Them, Tony katz tony, kats today 777 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,520 Speaker 3: good to be with You future that are the? 778 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 2: Immediate questions were that about a peacekeeping Force And president 779 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 2: trump saying and, when asked WOULD the us be a part? Of, 780 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 2: one well that's what we're going to find out today 781 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 2: in this meeting with these. World leaders let's get Back 782 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 2: To president Trump And vladimir's lenski In the. Oval office 783 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,760 Speaker 2: can you tell us about your Conversations with european leaders. 784 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 7: And what they need to see to support and into. 785 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,839 Speaker 12: The, war well we're going to, be meeting a great 786 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 12: representative group and seven, very powerful very big countries and, 787 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 12: great people all friends of mine and friends, of yours 788 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 12: and we're going to have some. Suggestions made they want to. 789 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 12: See peace they would like to see peace. 790 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 8: In The. 791 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 2: President trump you think it's Here. 792 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 6: For ukraine And for russia to achieve the lasting and. 793 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 6: Doable piece if you can't, see It it's Tartars that 794 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,760 Speaker 6: russia hasn't. Yet conquered you think it's a sad Piece. 795 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,800 Speaker 2: For ukraine we're gonna have a. 796 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 12: Lasting piece just to answer the first part of, Your 797 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 12: question we're gonna have a. LASTING piece i hope it's 798 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 12: going to. BE immediately i hope it doesn't have to. 799 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,399 Speaker 12: Go ON and i think people of the whole world 800 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:51,840 Speaker 12: is going to be. 801 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 2: Very happy they said After The trump. Putin meeting look 802 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,719 Speaker 2: How tired. Trump looks trump looks. So tired maybe he 803 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,799 Speaker 2: was tied. Delivered too i'm watching him. Right now he 804 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 2: doesn't tired. 805 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 14: At all or an end of, the war essentially because 806 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 14: of the children and the. Children's future why did the 807 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 14: first lady feel that letter? Was necessary was it because 808 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 14: she believed That mister putin is the aggressor in the 809 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,880 Speaker 14: war is a similar letter being to hand delivered To 810 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:20,560 Speaker 14: THE president's. 811 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,720 Speaker 12: A list so The first lady felt, very strongly she's 812 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 12: watched the same thing that you watch AND that. I 813 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 12: watch i see things that you don't get, to see and. 814 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,839 Speaker 12: It's horrible but when she's got a great love. Of 815 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 12: children she has a wonderful son that, she loves probably. 816 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 2: More, than anybody. 817 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,240 Speaker 12: INCLUDING me i hate to, say it but she loves. 818 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 12: Her son she, loves children and she hates to see 819 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 12: she hates to see something like. This happening and that 820 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 12: goes for other. WARS too, i mean she sees the heartbreak, 821 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,840 Speaker 12: the parents the funerals that you see, on television. Always 822 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 12: funerals we want to see to other. Than, funerals now 823 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 12: she felt it was a. Beautiful letter it was very 824 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:09,359 Speaker 12: well received, by him and she did ask me, to say, 825 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 12: you know she she would love to see. This end 826 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 12: she would love to see. The end and she says it, 827 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 12: very openly, very proudly and with great sorrow because so 828 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:19,799 Speaker 12: many people have. 829 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 15: Been killed, last week, Last, week ryan in, my HEAD 830 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,920 Speaker 15: bro i got, a question freak, forms president you look 831 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 15: fabulous in. 832 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,840 Speaker 3: THAT suit, i said you. 833 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 2: LOOK good i said the. 834 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,880 Speaker 12: Same, THING yeah, i said the one that attacked your. 835 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 14: LAST time, I, REMEMBER. 836 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,759 Speaker 3: Yeah i apologize. To you you. Look, wonderful no my 837 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 3: first question, For you president. 838 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 2: Didn't need to. 839 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:43,719 Speaker 12: SAVE you. 840 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,280 Speaker 6: I changed. 841 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:52,839 Speaker 2: THE guy a lot of laughter in. My rooms got? 842 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 3: The suits are you hoping to voting? 843 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 2: An election i'm going to keep. 844 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:57,399 Speaker 3: This, going guys. 845 00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,400 Speaker 2: We're watching if you're cart, of them that's. How happening 846 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,920 Speaker 2: i'm going to bring it back. To you, any breaking 847 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,840 Speaker 2: any breaking information, WE need i will share it. With 848 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 2: you find Everything at tony kats, dot com twitterrect that's 849 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 2: much more Coming Up Tony. Kats. 850 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,000 Speaker 13: Today security we need maybe, the published we need, The, 851 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 13: truth yes everywhere the battlefield in. 852 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 3: The, sky yeah make. 853 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:26,400 Speaker 2: Your consequences so the conversation continues in the Oval Office, 854 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,560 Speaker 2: President Trump, vladimir's lensky the questions being asked by, the 855 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 2: press and of course noticing that did wear a suit 856 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,440 Speaker 2: here though a, No Tie, Tony Kats Tony, kats today 857 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 2: good to be. With you the conversations moved into the 858 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 2: safety and security OF. D c, of COURSE these uh, 859 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:46,359 Speaker 2: press conferences these conversations always go, very wide arranging. One 860 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 2: country but there are this conversation of. Security guarantees this 861 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,440 Speaker 2: conversation of ending, the war this Conversation will americans be 862 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,080 Speaker 2: involved in some type. Of Peacekeeping president trump did not 863 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 2: say no. To that, he, said well that's what the 864 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:00,319 Speaker 2: conver station. 865 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,800 Speaker 3: Will be a bollance that we have With these. 866 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 2: European leaders, you know With The section GENERAL, Of nato 867 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,720 Speaker 2: mark rooted. Stopped killing and that conversation is happening after 868 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,840 Speaker 2: or on this meeting in uh In. The oval so 869 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 2: let's bring it back To the. Oval Office president trump 870 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 2: answering questions fighting they have. 871 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 3: TO fight i wish they. 872 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,360 Speaker 12: Could stop i'd like them, to stop but strategically that 873 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,839 Speaker 12: could be a disadvantage for one side or. The other 874 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 12: but all of THESE deals i made without even the 875 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 12: mention of the words, cease. 876 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:38,960 Speaker 16: Fire playing on decision To offer ukraine are five security, 877 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,400 Speaker 16: han tees but some sort of pushing for their. 878 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 12: Full, mention, yeah well we haven't done anything on. 879 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,839 Speaker 2: That yet if you look back and you go. 880 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,840 Speaker 12: Back Low Before, president putin it was always a statement 881 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,400 Speaker 12: that they would Never allow ukraine. In today so that 882 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,040 Speaker 12: was a statement that. Was made but we haven't discussed 883 00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:58,880 Speaker 12: any of. That yet we're going to be discussing. It 884 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,759 Speaker 12: today but we will give them very, good protection very. 885 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,719 Speaker 12: Good security that's part. Of it and the people that 886 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,399 Speaker 12: are waiting, for us THEY are i think they're very. 887 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 12: Like minded they want to they want to help. 888 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 16: Out all, Thank you, Thank You, president Trump The United. 889 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 17: States President The united states has already given hundreds of 890 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,440 Speaker 17: billions of dollars to this war Effort. 891 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 8: In. 892 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 3: Ukraine biden, at best it is a stalemate and the. 893 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 17: Killing Continues So, president trump how much more Is The 894 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 17: united states willing To? 895 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 3: Give Ukraine And, president zelenski how much more do? 896 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 12: You, Want well i'll start off just by saying we're not, 897 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,240 Speaker 12: giving anything that we're. Selling weapons this is. SOMETHING before 898 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 12: i guess the number is well over three hundred. BILLION 899 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 12: dollars i Was Under, joe biden a, corrupt politician. 900 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 8: Not a. 901 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,040 Speaker 12: Smart man, never was by, the way go back. Forty 902 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 12: years he was not a smart man forty years, Ago 903 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 12: either but now he's in Particular bed this was done 904 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 12: by a corrupt administration that should have. 905 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:04,680 Speaker 2: Been in and, the frankly if the. 906 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,480 Speaker 12: Right results of the election, were GIVEN if i, were 907 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,360 Speaker 12: president this war would have never. Taken place and he 908 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,960 Speaker 12: would have been very happy because he would have liked to. 909 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 12: HAVE seen i mean they went. 910 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 3: Through hell he went. Through hell this war would have. 911 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 12: Never happened and the people that, were killed a couple of, 912 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,600 Speaker 12: million people a lot of people with soldiers and. Everything 913 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 12: else and the people that have been displaced and forced 914 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 12: into other areas in other countries because of. What's happened 915 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 12: none of that would. Have Happened and i'm just saying 916 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 12: that he was a. Horrible president whether it was the borders, 917 00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:40,040 Speaker 12: or this he was just a horrible. Corrupt president. 918 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 13: You want, TO understand i can't think. So much first, 919 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:48,160 Speaker 13: of all we have the sudents now to buy weapon 920 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 13: From The. United states we think for this program and 921 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,200 Speaker 13: THE opportunity, i think well. 922 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,400 Speaker 7: For you or they pay for these and through. 923 00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 2: Need a program for a probatorial and. 924 00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,800 Speaker 13: It said so we have some programs where we can't 925 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 13: have some money to, finance this and this A part, 926 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,920 Speaker 13: i think it's not a part for the war and to. 927 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:09,560 Speaker 2: Defend us it's also will be. 928 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 3: A part for security guarantees to threngthen. 929 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,760 Speaker 2: Our army To are. 930 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,800 Speaker 12: Ukraine army this is very important. 931 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 2: And it depends how much money we need to Re are, 932 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,160 Speaker 2: for example the question of. 933 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 13: Air defense we spoke about It With, president Trump and 934 00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,280 Speaker 13: i'm happy that we have now elateral decisions and we 935 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,200 Speaker 13: work on it with Production of. American product Nobody in 936 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:37,000 Speaker 13: europe has so many air Defense like patrios. 937 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 2: For example we need it. 938 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 12: Very much and this is also. 939 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 3: About defending. 940 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:50,160 Speaker 2: The, conversation continues but That was les making sure so 941 00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 2: that he says that we're happy to buy this program 942 00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,080 Speaker 2: allows us to buy this is THE whole, nato thing 943 00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,440 Speaker 2: and you gotta buy it FROM the Uni it states 944 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,840 Speaker 2: because Only The united states can. Do this that was 945 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:07,920 Speaker 2: him learning from the. Last meeting so about how to Engage. With, 946 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,080 Speaker 2: trump now if you say, to me you've got to be, 947 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:11,600 Speaker 2: overly LAUDATORY. 948 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:12,440 Speaker 12: Because i, don't know we can't. 949 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:17,240 Speaker 2: BE hateful i think that's more the way that it's 950 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 2: and that it's. Seen Best does trump like that a? 951 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 2: Thousand percent and it's certainly you could argue something to, 952 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 2: his ego but also some to a recognition of we 953 01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,840 Speaker 2: are who. We are how about you recognize. It too 954 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,439 Speaker 2: how about it's not what we, owe you but rather 955 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 2: what we can do for you in. SETTING this i 956 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,240 Speaker 2: think that's a part Of the trump. 957 01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 12: Four years message should have been settled a long, time 958 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:41,600 Speaker 12: ago but it should have. Never, happened yeah. 959 01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,400 Speaker 2: You pushed out on. SOCIAL media i, GO here i. 960 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 3: Go first you pushed out on. 961 01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 2: Social media about doing away with mail in ballots and 962 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 2: potentially electronic. Voting machines can you explain on that Help, port. 963 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 12: Well that's a very, off topic just. So quickly mail 964 01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,640 Speaker 12: in ballots, are corrupt mail and balance very. Off top 965 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:04,920 Speaker 12: you never have a real democracy with mail, in ballots 966 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,760 Speaker 12: and we As a, republican party are going to do 967 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,200 Speaker 12: everything possible that we get rid of mail. In belots 968 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,400 Speaker 12: we're going to start with an executive order that's being 969 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,800 Speaker 12: written right now by the best lawyers of the country 970 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,960 Speaker 12: to end mail in ballots because. 971 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,640 Speaker 3: They're corrupt and. 972 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:23,800 Speaker 12: Do you know that we're the only country in THE 973 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 12: world I believe i may, be wrong but just about 974 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,320 Speaker 12: the only country in the world that uses it because of, 975 01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 12: what's happened massive fraud all over. The place the, other 976 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 12: thing we want change of. The machines for all of 977 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 12: the money, they spend it's approximately ten times more expensive than, 978 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,800 Speaker 12: paper ballots and paper ballots are. Very sophisticated with the 979 01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 12: watermark paper and. Everything else we would get. Secure elections 980 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,360 Speaker 12: we get much faster results. THE machines i mean they 981 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:51,080 Speaker 12: say we're going to have. 982 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 2: The results in. 983 01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 12: Two weeks with, paper ballots you have the results. That night, 984 01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:57,040 Speaker 12: MOST people. 985 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 2: I totally agree with them on paper ballots. Really Quick, 986 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,160 Speaker 2: Jackie Heinricher, fox. 987 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 3: News so between paper ballots. 988 01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:09,160 Speaker 2: Reporting that what they consider success today is That even 989 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 2: zelensky understands that there may have to be a land 990 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 2: concession and it might not be The way putin dropped, 991 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,680 Speaker 2: the map but it could be what it is That 992 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 2: the ukrainians are willing, to do and he has to 993 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 2: sell it to his. Own people he's got to get 994 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:27,400 Speaker 2: it through, his government through. His system THAT the Us 995 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:32,360 Speaker 2: and europeans are gently making suggestions, on territory but they 996 01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 2: understand that this, is tenuous but this is the direction that. 997 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:40,000 Speaker 2: They're Going the europeans are convinced that the security guarantees 998 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,120 Speaker 2: are the, big deal which means there's going to be 999 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,160 Speaker 2: a force and you could see a little bit of 1000 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 2: lands given up the force. In country this could be 1001 01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 2: the way that. It goes they do not believe that 1002 01:02:54,400 --> 01:03:00,000 Speaker 2: there's going to be a decision on full. Guarantees today 1003 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,080 Speaker 2: what they are hoping is that this. 1004 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,920 Speaker 3: Walks away the walk away is we're on, the track 1005 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 3: we're all. 1006 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 2: Working together we show the world we're working together and 1007 01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 2: we can get. 1008 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,040 Speaker 3: This done that's the definition. 1009 01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,680 Speaker 2: Of success so to our, Points Earlier serious land is 1010 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,840 Speaker 2: one thousand percent on. THE table I think i would 1011 01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 2: Bet that jackie's you. 1012 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,480 Speaker 3: Know what Happens in calumny notes here where. 1013 01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:29,240 Speaker 12: Some people get five six seven balanced that we got 1014 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,280 Speaker 12: to stop mail in voting and the report. 1015 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,640 Speaker 2: Are, ACCURATE george, i mean we did call it, on 1016 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,240 Speaker 2: it but that's some backup. 1017 01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,040 Speaker 3: To it, for sure mail in Voting. 1018 01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,000 Speaker 2: For, democrats sure let's go Back To president trump here. 1019 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,920 Speaker 12: With redistricting, believe me And the republicans have to. 1020 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:45,600 Speaker 2: Get smart we're not going to have. 1021 01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,560 Speaker 18: A country i said for a long time, in rallies 1022 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:53,840 Speaker 18: you need borders and you need free and, fair elections 1023 01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,960 Speaker 18: those two things otherwise you. Don't have we have strong 1024 01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,959 Speaker 18: borders now in, ninety Days, mister president that we didn't 1025 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:05,880 Speaker 18: have one zero zero answer, three months not one person. 1026 01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,760 Speaker 12: Came in illegally into. Our country, in. 1027 01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:08,840 Speaker 2: FACT even i find that hard. 1028 01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,000 Speaker 12: To believe but it's run by a little bit of 1029 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,120 Speaker 12: a liberal group that put out. The NUMBER so i guess, 1030 01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:18,040 Speaker 12: it's zero zero. And zero you go back a, year 1031 01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,760 Speaker 12: ago two, years ago three millions of people poured into. 1032 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,680 Speaker 12: Our country it, Was terrible thank you. Very much. 1033 01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,600 Speaker 19: Guarantees do you Need From president trump to be able 1034 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:31,320 Speaker 19: to make a deal With in. 1035 01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,520 Speaker 3: Amer's right to ask the chambers asked. The questions she's 1036 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 3: been part Of This white house court. For years. 1037 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:43,720 Speaker 13: She's fantassing really it's includes too Parse Strong ukrainian. Army 1038 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:48,160 Speaker 13: network pile began to discuss with, your colleagues and it's 1039 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,560 Speaker 13: a lot about the weapon and the people and training issues. 1040 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:56,040 Speaker 13: And intelligence and second we will discuss with. Our partners 1041 01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,560 Speaker 13: it depends on the big countries On The. United states 1042 01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,960 Speaker 13: on one that all the follow Up friends. 1043 01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:08,440 Speaker 19: AMERICANS that nato light protection in order To Get presidents 1044 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:09,880 Speaker 19: Wansky too, Enday, TODAY. 1045 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,200 Speaker 15: Well i don't know if you divide it, that WAY, 1046 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,320 Speaker 15: but NATO like, i mean we're going To give we 1047 01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:17,160 Speaker 15: have people waiting in another room. Right now they're role Here, 1048 01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,720 Speaker 15: from europe biggest People, in europe and they want to. 1049 01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,280 Speaker 12: Give protection they feel very strongly about it and will 1050 01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,240 Speaker 12: help them out. WITH it i think it's VERY implement 1051 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 12: i think it's very important to get. 1052 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,960 Speaker 2: The, deal now the. 1053 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 3: Deal done is of course the. Story here what does? 1054 01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,920 Speaker 2: It mean we have the Notes From, jackie heinrich we 1055 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:37,280 Speaker 2: have our own thoughts, to it we have. 1056 01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,160 Speaker 3: THE president i think the most startling. 1057 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,640 Speaker 2: Thing so far is when asked About our american's part 1058 01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:46,360 Speaker 2: about any level of quote unquote, peacekeeping mission, he, said 1059 01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,800 Speaker 2: well that's the, conversation today which would signal to me 1060 01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:53,960 Speaker 2: that that is one thousand percent a subject on. The 1061 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:58,480 Speaker 2: table and it, could, mean well it means they get 1062 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,000 Speaker 2: our hardware at a. Special right it could mean it 1063 01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:01,320 Speaker 2: could mean. 1064 01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,280 Speaker 3: A lot you could massage that in a bunch. Of 1065 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,720 Speaker 3: ways but this. 1066 01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:10,720 Speaker 2: Is happening the meeting will commence soon With the, European 1067 01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:11,800 Speaker 2: Leaders president Trump And. 1068 01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,920 Speaker 3: President zelenski more is. Coming up keep. It Here I'm. 1069 01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:15,919 Speaker 2: Tony katz This Is. Tony. 1070 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:17,880 Speaker 3: Kats today we're having really. 1071 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,920 Speaker 12: Good conversations you have to understand how. 1072 01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,960 Speaker 2: Many you can imagine how many documents. 1073 01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,560 Speaker 12: THERE are i think that we're going to HAVE the 1074 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:27,880 Speaker 12: i think we'll receive the documents. 1075 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,080 Speaker 3: Very soon they're they're compiling. 1076 01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:34,480 Speaker 2: EVERYTHING together i think we're working together in a good, 1077 01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:36,520 Speaker 2: faith effort and everything's. 1078 01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,600 Speaker 12: COMING along i expect to receive the documents very. 1079 01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:43,360 Speaker 3: Very soon That Is james comer Discussing the. 1080 01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:47,480 Speaker 2: Epstein Files the left has been on a tear talking 1081 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:51,440 Speaker 2: to Themselves about trump is, doing This and trump is, 1082 01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,520 Speaker 2: doing That and trump is just distracting because he doesn't 1083 01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:58,120 Speaker 2: want to talk At the fstein files because he's In the. 1084 01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,200 Speaker 3: EPSTEIN files. 1085 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:02,040 Speaker 8: I. 1086 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,880 Speaker 2: WANT them i want. Them now i've wanted them from. 1087 01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:09,840 Speaker 2: THE beginning i think many of you have. 1088 01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:10,600 Speaker 3: As well. 1089 01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:18,360 Speaker 2: So let's let's let's. See it let's see, it immediately if, 1090 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:22,640 Speaker 2: not sooner let's see what's, in there and then who's 1091 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,120 Speaker 2: going to? Get charged because if you tell me there's no, 1092 01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:29,240 Speaker 2: There there I've Got julaine maxwell, in jail and you 1093 01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,560 Speaker 2: told me for forever there were these terrible things. That, 1094 01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:37,640 Speaker 2: happened well let's. See it speaking of terrible things that, 1095 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:47,720 Speaker 2: Have Happened james comy putting out a very very. Weird video. 1096 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,320 Speaker 20: Last week's cold turns out to HAVE, been covid quite, 1097 01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:57,160 Speaker 20: a Flashback And donald trump is still president and Still 1098 01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:01,080 Speaker 20: humiliating america on a national. Stage Today To, vladimir putin 1099 01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:03,760 Speaker 20: it's like, a dream a bad dream you can't wake. 1100 01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:09,320 Speaker 2: Up, from well that's he's got. Me sold he looks 1101 01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,640 Speaker 2: like he's in a. Hostage video he's. Standing there the lighting, 1102 01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,280 Speaker 2: is terrible the bag's under. His eyes it's like this 1103 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:21,280 Speaker 2: yellowish greenish gray. A backdrop it's like what your cat just. 1104 01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:26,639 Speaker 2: Threw up and then after Nonsense, about trump he wants 1105 01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:28,559 Speaker 2: you to know he's. 1106 01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:32,519 Speaker 20: A SWIFTIE but i don't want to talk about that 1107 01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:34,400 Speaker 20: bad dream. THIS week i want to talk about a 1108 01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:38,840 Speaker 20: truly inspirational public Figure Named. Taylor swift OF course i 1109 01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,360 Speaker 20: watched her podcast interview With The. Kelsey brothers OF course 1110 01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,680 Speaker 20: i watched the, whole thing although. On YouTube PATERESA and 1111 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,760 Speaker 20: i got kicked off for the last fifteen minutes and 1112 01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:51,360 Speaker 20: finished it on, Her PHONE but i. Watched it You 1113 01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,599 Speaker 20: See taylor SWIFT and i go. WAY back i went 1114 01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:58,200 Speaker 20: to my first concert of hers fifteen. Years ago i've 1115 01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,799 Speaker 20: been to, a SECOND and i have helped financially support 1116 01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,519 Speaker 20: the attendance of a lot of family members. 1117 01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:10,000 Speaker 2: At others i'm in a family's swifty Group. Chat okay 1118 01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:12,360 Speaker 2: he then went on, TO say i also pee. 1119 01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:16,320 Speaker 3: Sitting, down listen listen to. 1120 01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:23,000 Speaker 2: Me carefully there is nothing wrong at all with Listening To. 1121 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,120 Speaker 2: Taylor swift you go. Right ahead WHO am i to? 1122 01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:26,680 Speaker 3: Tell? You who to. 1123 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,360 Speaker 2: Listen to you want to Listen To. Taylor swift Listen To. 1124 01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:34,160 Speaker 2: Taylor swift it's it's fine that you make a video 1125 01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:35,599 Speaker 2: about this as a. Grown man. 1126 01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:41,640 Speaker 3: That's. Very beta. 1127 01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,479 Speaker 2: That's that. 1128 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,400 Speaker 3: Is weird it's it's. 1129 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:53,240 Speaker 2: Not it's it's it's just an odd thing FOR the 1130 01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,720 Speaker 2: fbi director to be talking ABOUT former. Fbi director it's 1131 01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,599 Speaker 2: an odd thing to say, out loud it's an odd 1132 01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,400 Speaker 2: thing for grown men to be down bore because no 1133 01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,920 Speaker 2: part of her music is built, for you created. 1134 01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,800 Speaker 3: For you i'm not saying that people don't enjoy. 1135 01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,280 Speaker 2: Music that might not be, for, Them. 1136 01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:11,240 Speaker 3: Right you're not the. 1137 01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:16,720 Speaker 2: Target audience it's fine you have it on. YOUR playlist 1138 01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:18,840 Speaker 2: a couple songs go. Right out you might. 1139 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:22,480 Speaker 3: HAVE albums i, don't know and he's talking. ABOUT albums. 1140 01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,519 Speaker 20: I know all her MUSIC and i listened to it 1141 01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,599 Speaker 20: on my HEADPHONES when i cut. The grass, SO yes 1142 01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,760 Speaker 20: i have a favorite, of hers, although honestly, for me 1143 01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:35,000 Speaker 20: it's a tie between all two well ten minute Version 1144 01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:36,920 Speaker 20: and Exile Featuring. 1145 01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:37,759 Speaker 2: Bonny, verir. 1146 01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:46,280 Speaker 3: Okay he knows. Too much it's what is the point of? 1147 01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:46,960 Speaker 3: This video what is? 1148 01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:52,040 Speaker 2: He DOING is i remember That the left told us 1149 01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:55,599 Speaker 2: that they were going to sell Masculinity Because doug mhoff. 1150 01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:59,519 Speaker 3: Is masculine the Husband Of kamala Harris And tim walls. 1151 01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,000 Speaker 3: Was masculine. 1152 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,080 Speaker 2: This is how you're going to attract, young men college 1153 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:12,960 Speaker 2: aged men to vote. For you you really don't want to, 1154 01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,600 Speaker 2: win again Do? Your democrats, you don't, you don't you 1155 01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:17,240 Speaker 2: don't keep. 1156 01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:18,120 Speaker 3: It here This Is tony. 1157 01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:22,559 Speaker 2: Katz today. 1158 01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:32,599 Speaker 1: Line From dal heartland And the Crossroads. Of America It's tony. 1159 01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:36,639 Speaker 1: Katz today certainly that is going to be the number 1160 01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:37,479 Speaker 1: ONE topic i. 1161 01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:43,200 Speaker 17: Think today in Addition To president zelensky responding To What 1162 01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:47,600 Speaker 17: president trump Heard From president Putin on friday and the. 1163 01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:51,640 Speaker 17: Security guarantees when you Talk about article five, light guarantees 1164 01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,840 Speaker 17: obviously the security guarantees would be OUTSIDE of Nato because 1165 01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,280 Speaker 17: ukraine is not a MEMBER, of nato but a lot 1166 01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:57,519 Speaker 17: of the. 1167 01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,160 Speaker 3: MEMBERS, of nato especially in this coalition. 1168 01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,360 Speaker 17: Of the world, she mentioned Which Is, Great, Britain germany 1169 01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:06,120 Speaker 17: france and several Other big, european countries are going to 1170 01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:10,000 Speaker 17: be providing. That assistance they obviously Want The united. States 1171 01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:14,519 Speaker 17: involved In The, united states that provides certain capabilities that 1172 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:18,280 Speaker 17: aren't available to anybody else on. The globe and so 1173 01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,000 Speaker 17: that discussion is going to be a big part of 1174 01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:23,240 Speaker 17: What the europeans today. 1175 01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:24,920 Speaker 2: Talk About That's. 1176 01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,520 Speaker 3: Matt whittaker he is the AMBASSADOR. 1177 01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:31,559 Speaker 2: To nato he was the former acting attorney General in trump's. 1178 01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:33,400 Speaker 3: First term and. 1179 01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:37,719 Speaker 2: This is all about what Happened with Trump and putin 1180 01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:42,000 Speaker 2: and then what's going to be Happening, With trump zelenski 1181 01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:46,360 Speaker 2: And these. European Leaders Tony Katz tony, katz today good 1182 01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:46,600 Speaker 2: to be. 1183 01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,320 Speaker 3: With you FIND everything i do Over At tony katz. 1184 01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:54,960 Speaker 2: Dot com was the Meeting With vladimir putin a success or? A, 1185 01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,680 Speaker 2: failure well that all depends on what political side of 1186 01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:02,320 Speaker 2: the al, you're on or maybe, said differently whether you're 1187 01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:03,160 Speaker 2: rational or. 1188 01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:04,960 Speaker 3: Completely insane. 1189 01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:10,760 Speaker 2: The rational person can state, The, following well great bit 1190 01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:16,920 Speaker 2: of stage craft done By the. Trump team, putin arrives they, 1191 01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,720 Speaker 2: shake hands they're walking up to, a stage and then 1192 01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,559 Speaker 2: there's a FLYOVER a b, two BOMBERS a b two 1193 01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,840 Speaker 2: bomber flanked by. Fighter Jets when zelenski, gets there he 1194 01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,959 Speaker 2: has to pass all these. Fighter jets there was a purpose, 1195 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:33,200 Speaker 2: to that and only the progressives, Could, say ah It 1196 01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:33,759 Speaker 2: made trump. 1197 01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:37,640 Speaker 3: Look WEAK look i have to brag it's part of. 1198 01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,800 Speaker 3: The story part of the story. 1199 01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:44,120 Speaker 2: Is we're us and we're asking for, this thing and 1200 01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,400 Speaker 2: you might want to think long and hard before you. 1201 01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:50,680 Speaker 2: Say no it was a fine bit. Of stagecraft it 1202 01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:54,200 Speaker 2: was actually. Well done, but remember the reason That the 1203 01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:57,080 Speaker 2: left is so opposed to this idea is not that 1204 01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:01,520 Speaker 2: it's going to hurt the. Peace process oppose the projection. 1205 01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:06,880 Speaker 2: Of strength they absolutely can't. Stand it they, hate it 1206 01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:12,320 Speaker 2: despise the idea. OF strength i always go Back To 1207 01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:16,640 Speaker 2: barack Obama Because barack obama never gave an address From. 1208 01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,679 Speaker 2: THE oval i don't. RECALL one i have looked. Into 1209 01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,880 Speaker 2: it it. Can't exist OF course i could, amiss something 1210 01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:28,639 Speaker 2: but there is no question none that he never wanted 1211 01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,080 Speaker 2: to give an address From. The oval he never wanted 1212 01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:34,920 Speaker 2: the projection. Of, power Now while biden did do a 1213 01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:38,000 Speaker 2: Couple Of oval, office addresses they built that whole fake 1214 01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:42,519 Speaker 2: set instead of doing things From. The oval trump every 1215 01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:44,880 Speaker 2: meeting is In, the oval every presentation is In. The 1216 01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:49,040 Speaker 2: oval I'm. The president this is the seat of power in, 1217 01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:54,520 Speaker 2: the World and. I'm here SO the b two flyover 1218 01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:57,120 Speaker 2: was part, of that that projection. 1219 01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:58,080 Speaker 3: Of strength. 1220 01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,360 Speaker 2: The left will say no, deal came no cease. Fire 1221 01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:06,559 Speaker 2: came it's a total failure of. A, meeting okay no, 1222 01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:10,240 Speaker 2: deal came no cease. Fire came That's something trump would 1223 01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:12,240 Speaker 2: have to answer For because, trump said if there's, no 1224 01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:16,519 Speaker 2: ceasefire the sanctions are going to. Be, severe well now 1225 01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:20,800 Speaker 2: we're in a full pivot from ceasefire to, peace deal 1226 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:25,880 Speaker 2: Which gave trump the out of engaging. Full sanctions we 1227 01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:29,200 Speaker 2: also don't know, everything happened everything that happened in. The 1228 01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:30,920 Speaker 2: meeting we don't know everything that. Took place we don't 1229 01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:37,160 Speaker 2: know every conversation that. Took place We don't but it's 1230 01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:40,080 Speaker 2: certainly if you said the sanctions would be severe if 1231 01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,960 Speaker 2: there was not a ceasefire and there's, no ceasefire you're 1232 01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:44,960 Speaker 2: gonna have to answer. For that if you want, to 1233 01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,360 Speaker 2: say well we're onto, something new, we pivoted and now 1234 01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:50,439 Speaker 2: we're getting a, peace deal well you're gonna get people 1235 01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:55,559 Speaker 2: who talk some smack. About that but if that's all, 1236 01:15:55,640 --> 01:16:01,360 Speaker 2: they have they don't have much because they still argue 1237 01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:05,000 Speaker 2: that it's wrong to have Met With. Vladimir putin now 1238 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:10,120 Speaker 2: you've just raised. His profile you're trying to stop the war. 1239 01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:14,160 Speaker 2: From happening and if the left wants, to say just 1240 01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:17,240 Speaker 2: put one HUNDRED thousand us troops on the, ground already 1241 01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:18,040 Speaker 2: let them. 1242 01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:21,080 Speaker 3: Say it but you'll note that they never. Say it 1243 01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,600 Speaker 3: they never say that the thing that it. 1244 01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:29,400 Speaker 2: Would. Take, no instead they Go To eric SWALLWELL on 1245 01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:31,160 Speaker 2: msnbc to be. 1246 01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:34,799 Speaker 18: Completely insane comes in your sense of where this goes. 1247 01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:35,280 Speaker 10: From, here. 1248 01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:40,360 Speaker 4: Well If, you're europe you're quite worried now because you 1249 01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:44,240 Speaker 4: just saw the president Of The united states achieve zero 1250 01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,080 Speaker 4: and they will have to ask themselves what more are 1251 01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,479 Speaker 4: they willing, to do knowing that they too could be 1252 01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:53,559 Speaker 4: thrown under the Bus if russia ever moved. Farther west 1253 01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,280 Speaker 4: but as far, AS objectives i was hoping to hear 1254 01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:59,760 Speaker 4: that there would be a trilateral meeting that didn't come out. 1255 01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:00,720 Speaker 4: OF this i was hoping to here there to be 1256 01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:02,080 Speaker 4: a ceasefire that didn't come out. Of THIS and i 1257 01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:05,559 Speaker 4: was hoping to at least hear about the territory that 1258 01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:09,800 Speaker 4: would be proposed or exchanged by both sides that didn't 1259 01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:10,080 Speaker 4: come out. 1260 01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:11,120 Speaker 2: Of, This, LOOK. 1261 01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:14,320 Speaker 4: Alicia i don't Know If donald trump is or is 1262 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:18,439 Speaker 4: Not a. RUSSIAN asset i do know that at press conferences, 1263 01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:22,120 Speaker 4: like this and Like, at helsinki he certainly acts like one. 1264 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:28,479 Speaker 2: Good lord that's The Best eric swawah, will do by 1265 01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:30,920 Speaker 2: the way he or. Can do he doesn't know what 1266 01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,120 Speaker 2: came out of. The MEETING all i Know is trump 1267 01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:36,439 Speaker 2: as the meeting On, a friday And, then monday he's 1268 01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:38,799 Speaker 2: got All of europe showing up At The. White, house 1269 01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,920 Speaker 2: oh it's going to be. A party i mean. Quite 1270 01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:46,000 Speaker 2: literally they usually have huge planning for meetings. Like this 1271 01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:50,040 Speaker 2: all of, a sudden everybody's. Showing up so you can't 1272 01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,519 Speaker 2: say that there's. No movement you can get me to 1273 01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,679 Speaker 2: agree that he said cease fire, or sanctions and yes 1274 01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,200 Speaker 2: he has to deal, with THAT like, i said but 1275 01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:02,040 Speaker 2: you can't say that there was. No movement. You can't 1276 01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,160 Speaker 2: the question is where does the movement? Take us and 1277 01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:07,880 Speaker 2: What the democrats are saying is we want it. 1278 01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:09,920 Speaker 3: To fail he needs to be. 1279 01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:14,800 Speaker 2: A failure it has. To fail nothing. Can work they 1280 01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:20,320 Speaker 2: can't even celebrate. The trying they can't. Do it they'll never. 1281 01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:25,840 Speaker 2: Do it, broken People non american in, My view i'll 1282 01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,640 Speaker 2: get more. INTO that i did have a chance to 1283 01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:30,840 Speaker 2: sit down over the weekend With the israeli ambassador To The, 1284 01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:35,040 Speaker 2: United States. MICHAEL ler a very very, long conversation wide 1285 01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:39,520 Speaker 2: reaching conversation about the War, in gaza about the propaganda 1286 01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:41,360 Speaker 2: war and what does it mean? 1287 01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,160 Speaker 3: To win that's coming. Up next keep. 1288 01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:46,640 Speaker 2: It Here I'm. Tony katz so over THE weekend i 1289 01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:51,040 Speaker 2: had the opportunity to Speak With Ambassador, michael lyder who 1290 01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:55,040 Speaker 2: Is the israelian ambassador To The. United States, Tony Katz tony, 1291 01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,920 Speaker 2: Katz today good to be. With you he was in 1292 01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:02,400 Speaker 2: town and he's doing some touring and Connection, to connection 1293 01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:05,960 Speaker 2: and there we sat in the studio having a conversation 1294 01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:07,720 Speaker 2: for well over, fifty. 1295 01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:11,679 Speaker 3: Minutes a little Bit, about bourbon a little. 1296 01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:15,479 Speaker 2: Bit, about israel a Lot about israel specifically the War, 1297 01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:20,559 Speaker 2: with goza specifically what he sees FROM the. Us media 1298 01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:24,960 Speaker 2: And so i'm gonna bring you parts of. That interview 1299 01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:27,120 Speaker 2: i'll have the whole thing up on the YouTube Channel 1300 01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,320 Speaker 2: At tony Katz and i'll have it up as a 1301 01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:36,920 Speaker 2: special piece. Of podcasts share that. OVER there i asked 1302 01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,120 Speaker 2: the questions including who dropped the Ball on? October seventh, 1303 01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:46,639 Speaker 2: you know is is this? War winnable meaning what does 1304 01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:49,200 Speaker 2: it mean? To win and we had an interesting bit 1305 01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:54,040 Speaker 2: of back and forth twice Regarding does hamas remain or 1306 01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:59,680 Speaker 2: Not remain what does it mean disarmed? Versus dismantled and 1307 01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,160 Speaker 2: it was it was a very. Interesting LOOK but i 1308 01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:08,479 Speaker 2: appreciate Very Much ambassador. Lighter's candor it was very, very 1309 01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:12,280 Speaker 2: present not only a bit of the historical references and 1310 01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:16,479 Speaker 2: making sure you understand connection connection pieces to just the 1311 01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:21,320 Speaker 2: current situation and the, very honest sober look at what. 1312 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:25,880 Speaker 2: It is israelis are dealing With what americans are seeing 1313 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:29,880 Speaker 2: in their universities and from their politicos. And others so 1314 01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:34,360 Speaker 2: the conversation it didn't, start Here but i'll share it with. 1315 01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:36,720 Speaker 3: You here where Are? 1316 01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:40,839 Speaker 2: THE israelis, i mean are they looking To end tomas 1317 01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:42,679 Speaker 2: or are they looking for this war to? Be over 1318 01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:47,080 Speaker 2: are the People of israel with you on? This idea 1319 01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:50,679 Speaker 2: BECAUSE certainly i have never discussed the destruction Of amass 1320 01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,720 Speaker 2: as in somehow there's a man, Left standing but one, 1321 01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,719 Speaker 2: could argue how could you ensure you got every? Last 1322 01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:02,880 Speaker 2: man Are the israelis with you? On this do they 1323 01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:07,320 Speaker 2: want this fight to Continue until hamas? Is gone or 1324 01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,479 Speaker 2: is it get the hostages back and we'll worry about the, 1325 01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:13,840 Speaker 2: Rest later which certainly wasn't conversation piece a year plus 1326 01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,559 Speaker 2: ago certainly seems to have changed since the release of 1327 01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:20,880 Speaker 2: the videos that, you're referencing showing these hostages being starved and, 1328 01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:25,600 Speaker 2: horrific conditions one very possibly digging his. OWN grave, i 1329 01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,439 Speaker 2: mean that's what it looked like to anybody who had. A, mind, yeah, 1330 01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,040 Speaker 2: well look it's a. 1331 01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:35,320 Speaker 7: Legitimate discussion everybody's United that gaza could never go Back to. 1332 01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:38,160 Speaker 7: October sixth there's Nobody in israel doesn't agree To that 1333 01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:42,240 Speaker 7: gaza could never again pose A. Threat israel there is 1334 01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:44,960 Speaker 7: a discussion over whether or not we could achieve that 1335 01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:49,040 Speaker 7: if we now, move back basically surrender to get the. 1336 01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:54,280 Speaker 7: Hostages out the majority, opinion is which comes to the 1337 01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:57,840 Speaker 7: fore clearly in all, the polling is that we will 1338 01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:04,080 Speaker 7: not succeed in getting all the hostages out alive And 1339 01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:07,280 Speaker 7: leave hamas standing at the end of. The day they're 1340 01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:11,240 Speaker 7: going to hold out to the, very end and we, 1341 01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:16,480 Speaker 7: could try but the idea of surrender And leaving hamas 1342 01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:23,759 Speaker 7: intact will pose a visceral existential threat in. The future 1343 01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:27,599 Speaker 7: so it's a very difficult question that. We're facing there 1344 01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:29,840 Speaker 7: is a discussion, about it but the majority of people 1345 01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:33,280 Speaker 7: are still absolutely convinced that we have to get the 1346 01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:37,559 Speaker 7: hostages out as we remain intent On. Destroying hamas it's 1347 01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:41,960 Speaker 7: a hard bridge. To, cross okay it's a hard circle, 1348 01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:45,160 Speaker 7: to square but we're working. On it and it's important 1349 01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:47,680 Speaker 7: to remember we started with two hundred and fifty. Five 1350 01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:51,960 Speaker 7: hostages we got two hundred and five out with a 1351 01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:57,760 Speaker 7: combination of both negotiation and. Military pressure we did not 1352 01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:01,280 Speaker 7: accomplish anything without. Military pressure the military pressure has, to 1353 01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:04,880 Speaker 7: continue and that's the only thing that has a chance 1354 01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:09,800 Speaker 7: of convincing the last men Standing in fromas to. 1355 01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:14,040 Speaker 2: Give up Talking To Ambassador, michael Leiter the israeli ambassador 1356 01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:18,240 Speaker 2: To The, united states one more Question about. October seventh 1357 01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:25,479 Speaker 2: it's the hard question how who took their eyes off? 1358 01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:29,240 Speaker 2: The ball in, the end someone has to be responsible 1359 01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:34,360 Speaker 2: for not knowing things that we could argue clearly not 1360 01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:37,240 Speaker 2: everything could have, been known but many things should have. 1361 01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:43,840 Speaker 7: Been, known yeah what was it that Great Philosopher forrest, 1362 01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:48,479 Speaker 7: gump said, stuff happens and this was. Bad stuff it 1363 01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,080 Speaker 7: was a. Perfect storm there was a breakdown in the 1364 01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:56,360 Speaker 7: system and for a good six to eight hours we. 1365 01:23:56,360 --> 01:24:02,040 Speaker 7: Were dysfunctional but nobody should get the. Wrong idea we 1366 01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,800 Speaker 7: have the best intelligence in. The world we proved that 1367 01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:08,200 Speaker 7: just a few months Later in beirut when five thousand 1368 01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:11,600 Speaker 7: beepers went off in. People's pockets we proved that a 1369 01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:13,880 Speaker 7: few days after that with the walkie talkies that, went 1370 01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:19,519 Speaker 7: off Basically. Decimated krizbala this was, an organization a terrorist 1371 01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:21,920 Speaker 7: organization that was feared across. The world one hundred and fifty. 1372 01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:28,320 Speaker 7: Thousand stormtroopers we basically. Masculated them and then what makes 1373 01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:32,600 Speaker 7: that even look like a playground was what we accomplished 1374 01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:36,760 Speaker 7: in the Middle. Of, tehran okay we have the same 1375 01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:43,599 Speaker 7: army that Failed on, october seventh created a drone factory 1376 01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:49,920 Speaker 7: in the Center of tehran over months and sent them, 1377 01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:53,559 Speaker 7: into action all at the, same time taking out all 1378 01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:56,600 Speaker 7: of the nuclear scientists and all of the generals that 1379 01:24:56,680 --> 01:25:02,000 Speaker 7: hited UP. The irgc and about, ninety second then we 1380 01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:08,120 Speaker 7: had all of, the installations the missile installations there are 1381 01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:12,680 Speaker 7: any missile installations, taken out some, by air some on, 1382 01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:16,920 Speaker 7: the ground paving the Way For, midnight hammer so that 1383 01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:20,360 Speaker 7: our planes could have complete dominance over the Skies, in 1384 01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:24,799 Speaker 7: iran opening the way FOR the, b Twos THE american, 1385 01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:29,599 Speaker 7: b twos to fly in uncontested to take out these. 1386 01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:35,520 Speaker 7: Nuclear sites by, the way it was an unprecedented Collaboration 1387 01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:38,400 Speaker 7: between israel And The. United states there's never been anything on, 1388 01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:41,960 Speaker 7: this scale the intensity of, the COLLABORATION which i was 1389 01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:46,559 Speaker 7: personally witnessed to being the point Man in washington Between 1390 01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:48,000 Speaker 7: the israel governments And the. 1391 01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:52,080 Speaker 2: Trump administration you come in to your Job As president 1392 01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,519 Speaker 2: trump is, getting INAUGURATED and i mentioned you're Born. In, 1393 01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:57,519 Speaker 2: scranton yea and well and so all we've ever Heard About, 1394 01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:58,400 Speaker 2: joe biden, you. 1395 01:25:58,360 --> 01:25:59,759 Speaker 3: Know a Scrappy. 1396 01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:04,040 Speaker 2: From. SCRANTON allegedly i don't know if he was scrappy. 1397 01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,720 Speaker 2: OR not i didn't know him at. The time talk 1398 01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:09,040 Speaker 2: about the difference, in support or to the extent there 1399 01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:13,360 Speaker 2: is a difference in support Between the biden administration And the, 1400 01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:16,759 Speaker 2: trump administration which admittedly you do have a much closer 1401 01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:20,600 Speaker 2: view of than. Maybe, Anybody, right well a. 1402 01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:22,360 Speaker 7: FEW things. I mean first, OF all i Think That 1403 01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:29,280 Speaker 7: joe biden belonged to The traditional democratic Support. For israel 1404 01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:34,639 Speaker 7: he had, a visceral belly up natural support for the State, 1405 01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:35,559 Speaker 7: of israel which goes. 1406 01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:36,840 Speaker 2: BACK decades. 1407 01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:40,600 Speaker 7: I think that he was dealing with a situation where 1408 01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,800 Speaker 7: there were many demanding, of him more of a heavy 1409 01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:47,040 Speaker 7: handed Policy. TOWARDS israel i think for the most part he. 1410 01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,720 Speaker 7: Deflected it but there was something that we had to 1411 01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,320 Speaker 7: deal with which is, very problematic and that was an 1412 01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:59,040 Speaker 7: arms embargo functional Arms in bargo during a seven front 1413 01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:01,519 Speaker 7: war to contend. With him and the first Thing That 1414 01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:06,200 Speaker 7: president trump did coming into office was to remove that 1415 01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:10,400 Speaker 7: embargo and put everything back. On track it took, some 1416 01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:12,400 Speaker 7: time because, you know the moment you take the train off, 1417 01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:14,880 Speaker 7: the tracks it takes a little bit. More time even 1418 01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:18,599 Speaker 7: though they have a direction instruction to put it, back 1419 01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:19,040 Speaker 7: on it takes. 1420 01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:20,040 Speaker 2: Some time but it. 1421 01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:21,519 Speaker 7: Was done it was the. FIRST thing i don't think 1422 01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:24,040 Speaker 7: we've ever had a better friend In The White House. 1423 01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:28,200 Speaker 7: President trump he brought Us The abraham accords in, twenty 1424 01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:35,120 Speaker 7: nineteen and nobody could have Imagined that israel would have 1425 01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:40,160 Speaker 7: a piece accord With four muslim states without being demanded 1426 01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:43,519 Speaker 7: of To, divide jerusalem to give Up the jewish Communities In, 1427 01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:47,680 Speaker 7: judaani samaria just to live. In Peace and i'll, tell 1428 01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:49,519 Speaker 7: you before, THE war i spent a good deal of 1429 01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:54,519 Speaker 7: Time In, abu dhabi and, YOU see i have a Kip. 1430 01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:59,519 Speaker 7: A yamakam i felt more Comfortable In. Abu DHABI then 1431 01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:04,120 Speaker 7: i feel In most european cities As a, jew now 1432 01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:05,360 Speaker 7: who could have imagined that ten? 1433 01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:05,599 Speaker 8: Years? 1434 01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:13,080 Speaker 7: Ago okay and some of my deepest discussions, on philosophy, 1435 01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:18,439 Speaker 7: on theology on political science taking place with colleagues In 1436 01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:21,200 Speaker 7: the muslim world that wouldn't have been possible. 1437 01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:25,519 Speaker 2: For the abraham accurts now. Go ahead so, YOU know 1438 01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:26,320 Speaker 2: i think are. 1439 01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:29,920 Speaker 7: There differences i'll tell you ONE thing i am absolutely. 1440 01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:33,320 Speaker 7: Committed to and it's difficult because the added the Atmosphere 1441 01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:37,439 Speaker 7: in washington now is very Partisanan but i'm absolutely committed 1442 01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:42,400 Speaker 7: to making And keeping israel as bipartisan. As possible it 1443 01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:48,840 Speaker 7: is probably the most difficult JOB that, i have or 1444 01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,679 Speaker 7: part of the JOB that i have is keeping. THINGS 1445 01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:55,920 Speaker 7: bipartisan i engage with senators in congressman a very Critical. 1446 01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:59,479 Speaker 7: OF israel i want to keep the door open, for 1447 01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:05,080 Speaker 7: discussion BUT obviously i want to embrace, those senators like 1448 01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:08,479 Speaker 7: the Senators of indiana and the Congressmen, of indiana who 1449 01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:12,600 Speaker 7: are so, consistently supportive like THE governor i hope to, 1450 01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:17,880 Speaker 7: meet tomorrow so consistently Supportive of israel in. Every way 1451 01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:23,080 Speaker 7: And while i'm working hard towards a. BIPARTISAN embrace i 1452 01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:27,400 Speaker 7: want to make SURE that i don't leave the very 1453 01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:30,120 Speaker 7: close engagement that we have with the best friends who 1454 01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:36,440 Speaker 7: are constantly at our backs and Holding firm. 1455 01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:39,040 Speaker 2: You you mentioned who would have thought that ten? Years 1456 01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:43,439 Speaker 2: AGO and i think that what we see now is 1457 01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:46,840 Speaker 2: just an unbelievable openness to. The HATRED but i can 1458 01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:50,960 Speaker 2: point back to eleven years Talking about European Cities charlie 1459 01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:53,559 Speaker 2: vdoh and the attack There. In france this is a 1460 01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:56,479 Speaker 2: constant and. Consistent thing we can talk about those who 1461 01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:58,720 Speaker 2: have been Beheaded by islamists in the middle Of The, 1462 01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:04,519 Speaker 2: united kingdom and yet these places still refuse to be on. 1463 01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:06,280 Speaker 2: THE side i think of, the rational we'll get. To 1464 01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:08,680 Speaker 2: that but you brought up the People, of congress and 1465 01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:11,280 Speaker 2: certainly we have seen some People of congress being not 1466 01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:14,920 Speaker 2: just critical but flat out would the term be a 1467 01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:19,799 Speaker 2: fabulous or just engaged in a radical amount of rhetoric 1468 01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:21,559 Speaker 2: and a very little bit. Of fact we see THIS in. 1469 01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:26,000 Speaker 2: Us universities you spoke very clearly about this Regarding The 1470 01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:29,320 Speaker 2: New york times and the posting of this photo of 1471 01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:31,200 Speaker 2: look at this, starving child and it turns out this 1472 01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,920 Speaker 2: child is. Not starving this child has. Cerebral palsy this 1473 01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:36,840 Speaker 2: child has other issues that lead to, the malnutrition and 1474 01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:39,120 Speaker 2: in the photo cut out of the photo there's his 1475 01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:45,200 Speaker 2: brother healthy as. Can be how MUCH harder, i mean 1476 01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:47,160 Speaker 2: you actually referred to that as a, blood letting as 1477 01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:51,040 Speaker 2: a demonization in. The reporting how much harder does that 1478 01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:56,200 Speaker 2: make the job OF. Defeating hmas so the conversation continues 1479 01:30:56,680 --> 01:31:00,320 Speaker 2: from THERE and i will bring it to you, More Ahead. 1480 01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:02,880 Speaker 3: Tony katz This Is tony katz. 1481 01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:11,719 Speaker 2: Today continuing my Conversation With Ambassador. Michael Lighter, Tony Katz tony, 1482 01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:15,000 Speaker 2: Katz today good to be. With You his hebrew name Is. 1483 01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:17,360 Speaker 2: Hil LIGHTER and i don't KNOW why i told. You 1484 01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:19,400 Speaker 2: that IT'S just i tried to pronounce it multiple times 1485 01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,000 Speaker 2: and it's like they wouldn't give me a definitive answer 1486 01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:24,519 Speaker 2: on how to. PRONOUNCE it i was just, TELL me 1487 01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:26,960 Speaker 2: i don't know if they were messing with me or whatever. 1488 01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:29,800 Speaker 2: IT was i spoke with the ambassador for almost an 1489 01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:33,599 Speaker 2: hour over over. The weekend it was, a good. Good 1490 01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:37,280 Speaker 2: conversation there, was pushback there was there was a, history 1491 01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:40,640 Speaker 2: lesson there was there WAS really i think for me 1492 01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:48,280 Speaker 2: a takeaway that the ambassador embodies an approach of we're. 1493 01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:52,560 Speaker 2: Not apologizing we're not going to apologize in the slightest 1494 01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:56,559 Speaker 2: we are not going to pretend that everything is, all 1495 01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:58,880 Speaker 2: right and we're not going to beg for. 1496 01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:01,519 Speaker 3: Our supper we're going to put an end to. 1497 01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:05,880 Speaker 2: These people we're going to fight the propagandists who come, 1498 01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:08,200 Speaker 2: at us and we're not going. To stop and that 1499 01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:14,000 Speaker 2: led to the conversation Regarding The New. York times you 1500 01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:17,120 Speaker 2: spoke very clearly, about this Regarding The New york times 1501 01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:20,040 Speaker 2: and the posting of this photo of look at this, 1502 01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:22,080 Speaker 2: starving child and it turns out this child is. Not 1503 01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:24,960 Speaker 2: starving this child has. Cerebral palsy this child has other 1504 01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:27,880 Speaker 2: issues that lead to. The malnutrition and in the photo 1505 01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:31,400 Speaker 2: cut out of the photo there's his brother healthy as. 1506 01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:36,200 Speaker 2: Can be how MUCH harder, i mean you actually referred 1507 01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:39,200 Speaker 2: to that as a, blood letting as a demonization in. 1508 01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:42,479 Speaker 2: The reporting how much harder does that make the job 1509 01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:47,479 Speaker 2: Of defeating? Hamas well it makes it much. 1510 01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:51,120 Speaker 7: More difficult we can actually see in the Intel that 1511 01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:56,759 Speaker 7: hamas hardens its position in negotiations over the hostages every 1512 01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:59,719 Speaker 7: Time the europeans sound off in favor Of a. PALESTINIAN state, 1513 01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:04,280 Speaker 7: i mean, You know madame Mccron And Prime minister starmer 1514 01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:06,040 Speaker 7: And The prime Minister of canadey really have to stop 1515 01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:10,320 Speaker 7: and think what are? You doing are you really going 1516 01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:13,839 Speaker 7: to Give the palestinians? A? Prize Now is october seventh 1517 01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:15,040 Speaker 7: going To Be Palestine? 1518 01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:15,600 Speaker 2: Independence? 1519 01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:19,439 Speaker 7: Day now our hostages are still rotting. In tunnels you're 1520 01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:22,320 Speaker 7: proclaiming recognition unilaterally of what does that? 1521 01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:23,400 Speaker 2: Even mean how do you? 1522 01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:27,280 Speaker 7: Unilaterally recognize what does? That mean who's? The, government well 1523 01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:29,800 Speaker 7: you know the last time you, try this you gave 1524 01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:32,559 Speaker 7: elections to the People. Of gazla, you know, they elected They, 1525 01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:36,120 Speaker 7: elected tramas and the polls indicate that today if they 1526 01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:38,479 Speaker 7: were Held In, judan samaria they may once Again. Elect 1527 01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:40,640 Speaker 7: Tramas and i'm going to tell you the People of 1528 01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:44,759 Speaker 7: israel have been willing to work Towards a palestinian state 1529 01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:50,679 Speaker 7: Alongside of israel. For decades That. Was oslo we try 1530 01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:53,559 Speaker 7: To make. Oslo work we ended up with buses. BEING 1531 01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:57,160 Speaker 7: bombed i was the Deputy director general Of the Ministry. 1532 01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:58,880 Speaker 7: Of education one of THE things i had to deal 1533 01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:02,360 Speaker 7: with in the second he thought that we're hundreds of 1534 01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:06,880 Speaker 7: thousands of school kids suffering from all sorts of anxieties 1535 01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:09,840 Speaker 7: because they had to take, school buses and school busses. 1536 01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:11,960 Speaker 7: Were targeted we lost one hundred and sixty two children 1537 01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:14,840 Speaker 7: during the second in the fight because school buses were 1538 01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:17,880 Speaker 7: targeted by. Yasarra fight it Wasn't even hamas at. The 1539 01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:19,760 Speaker 7: time it Was yasar rafa with whom we had a. Peace, 1540 01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:24,600 Speaker 7: deal Now after, october seventh the Bandwidth in israel For 1541 01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:29,360 Speaker 7: a palestinian state west Of the jordan has been reduced 1542 01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:29,760 Speaker 7: to about a. 1543 01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:33,639 Speaker 2: Hair's, breadth right there's appen that was probably the biggest 1544 01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:36,920 Speaker 2: sea change is not from from coast to. 1545 01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:38,760 Speaker 7: NON coast, i, mean look somebody's just got to take 1546 01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:42,559 Speaker 7: a look at. The MAP as i, Said before israel 1547 01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:46,360 Speaker 7: Fits into indiana four and a. Half, times now if 1548 01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:49,240 Speaker 7: we're going to Carve out Judaan, and samaria We're reducing 1549 01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:53,200 Speaker 7: israel from a country that is now forty miles wide 1550 01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:56,559 Speaker 7: to a country that'll be nine. Miles wide how do 1551 01:34:56,640 --> 01:35:00,400 Speaker 7: you possibly protect the country that's nine? Miles wide, you 1552 01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:02,400 Speaker 7: know people often ask why do you have two ports 1553 01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:05,120 Speaker 7: One in haifa and one In ash DoD On? The 1554 01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:07,320 Speaker 7: mediterranean one port In the mediterrane will. BE enough, i 1555 01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:09,439 Speaker 7: mean there's only ninety kilometers in. Between them why do 1556 01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:11,840 Speaker 7: you have? Two, ports well the reason is that the Founder, 1557 01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:14,920 Speaker 7: of israel The First prime Minister, Of, israel bengorian realized 1558 01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:18,040 Speaker 7: that we have a country, so narrow nine, miles wide 1559 01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:20,680 Speaker 7: it's easy to cut it. In half he didn't want 1560 01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:23,320 Speaker 7: a situation where we'd be without, a port so he 1561 01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:26,880 Speaker 7: put one above the nine mile wide with and one 1562 01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:29,080 Speaker 7: below one In ash doad in, the south one chip in. 1563 01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:32,800 Speaker 7: The north those are the parameters of. The country so 1564 01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:35,920 Speaker 7: we're not about to reduce ourselves to the pre sixty, 1565 01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:39,280 Speaker 7: seven border particularly after we Saw what chihatis on our border. 1566 01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:43,680 Speaker 7: Can do so we want to think out of. The 1567 01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:47,120 Speaker 7: box we Want the palestinians to live, In dignity we 1568 01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:49,800 Speaker 7: want them to have. Local autonomy you want to think 1569 01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:51,559 Speaker 7: of all sorts of ideas that are going to raise 1570 01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:54,360 Speaker 7: their standard. Of living and by, the way already they 1571 01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:58,280 Speaker 7: have A higher gdp per capita than their Neighbors in Egypt, 1572 01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:00,479 Speaker 7: and Jordan. CERTAINLY syria i haven't. 1573 01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:03,160 Speaker 2: Talking, about that but you Brought up Canada, and PORTUGAL 1574 01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:07,280 Speaker 2: the Uk and france saying they're going to Recognize a. 1575 01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:10,680 Speaker 2: Palestinian state we talk about how the propaganda Of The 1576 01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:14,280 Speaker 2: New york times makes it. More difficult this makes it 1577 01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:16,280 Speaker 2: more more difficult. 1578 01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:19,320 Speaker 7: Because that's You Mentioned New. YORK times i gotta point something. 1579 01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:19,479 Speaker 2: Out to you. 1580 01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:22,120 Speaker 3: Feel free so the Idea. 1581 01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:28,240 Speaker 7: That zionism began in the nineteenth century. Is nonsense zionism 1582 01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:31,240 Speaker 7: is an integral Part. Of judaism There's no Judaism. Without 1583 01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:35,439 Speaker 7: zionism we're Introduced in Judaism, to, Abraham. Right abraham What 1584 01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:38,639 Speaker 7: does abraham do as we're introduced, To him go to Land. 1585 01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:41,760 Speaker 7: Of israel that's our Introduction. To abraham. Nothing else everything else. 1586 01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:45,880 Speaker 7: Follows that our very introduction is the bond between The 1587 01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:49,000 Speaker 7: first jew And the Land. Of israel and everything Else 1588 01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:52,400 Speaker 7: in genesis centers around that they have to leave because. 1589 01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:54,320 Speaker 7: Of famine they have to go back to. The land 1590 01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:56,719 Speaker 7: isaac leaves because, of famine goes back to. The land 1591 01:36:56,880 --> 01:37:00,240 Speaker 7: jacob is warned despite the famine not. To leave then 1592 01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:02,320 Speaker 7: it's exile from the Land, in egypt and then It's 1593 01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:04,840 Speaker 7: leaving egypt where the Land. Of israel that's the whole 1594 01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:05,519 Speaker 7: story of the. 1595 01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:05,920 Speaker 2: Advent Of the. 1596 01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:09,680 Speaker 7: Jewish people so this idea that You know zionism was 1597 01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:13,160 Speaker 7: born Out of, german nationalism of the. Nineteenth century it's all, 1598 01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:16,599 Speaker 7: poppy cock it's, all nonsense it's all. Attempt posts by, 1599 01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:21,479 Speaker 7: The way, edward said Professor Of english Literature And, columbia 1600 01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:26,360 Speaker 7: university really began this whole woke nonsense about, you know 1601 01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:30,839 Speaker 7: being us. Being colonizers, He said he had, this Phrase 1602 01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:37,599 Speaker 7: the British left nigeria And the French, left algeria Only 1603 01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:38,360 Speaker 7: the jews Remained. 1604 01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:38,400 Speaker 8: In. 1605 01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:43,599 Speaker 7: Palestine, yeah Man but jews are to the Land, of 1606 01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:46,840 Speaker 7: israel not What the british Are to nigeria or What 1607 01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:52,320 Speaker 7: the french Are. To algeria. We're indigenous we're, not usurpers We're, 1608 01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:56,960 Speaker 7: not aliens we're. Not colonizers we're indigenous to, the land 1609 01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:58,560 Speaker 7: and the land is indigenous. 1610 01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:03,200 Speaker 2: To us talking to, the Ambassador The israeli ambassador To The, 1611 01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:11,160 Speaker 2: United States, michael lyder, that subject, that conversation in order, 1612 01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:15,599 Speaker 2: to work has to involve a participant that is actually 1613 01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:19,040 Speaker 2: willing to listen to it and impossibly engage a debate. 1614 01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:21,720 Speaker 2: In it what, you see as you bring Up The New, 1615 01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:24,280 Speaker 2: york times as we talk about this, propaganda piece things 1616 01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:26,160 Speaker 2: that we see on college campuses. 1617 01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:27,719 Speaker 3: Are people who will not listen. 1618 01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:30,759 Speaker 2: To IT and i would say that this is Something 1619 01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:33,360 Speaker 2: of american progressives that you could argue that in, the 1620 01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:35,559 Speaker 2: main but it's certainly. Not all whether we're Talking About 1621 01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:38,600 Speaker 2: Senator john Fetterman of Pennsylvania And Congressman richie Torres Of, 1622 01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:40,640 Speaker 2: new york these ARE people i disagree with vehemently on 1623 01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:44,640 Speaker 2: a great number of Topics. On israel they are remarkably 1624 01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:50,360 Speaker 2: sound and strong one, Hundred Percent but american progressives keep 1625 01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:54,760 Speaker 2: discussing like The former, transportation secretary former Mayor Of south 1626 01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:58,639 Speaker 2: bend that you, Mentioned Earlier Pete, buddha Judge who i'm 1627 01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:00,679 Speaker 2: assuming is trying to figure out what not he's running 1628 01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:04,200 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty eight and went on a Podcast Called Pod, 1629 01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:06,680 Speaker 2: save america which is run by guys who are part 1630 01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:10,599 Speaker 2: Of the, obama team and the Conversation of israel, came 1631 01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:13,519 Speaker 2: up and his answers were so out of all sides 1632 01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:16,679 Speaker 2: of his mouth that he had to come back and further. 1633 01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:20,920 Speaker 2: Engage clarification and, once again as with so many of, 1634 01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:23,960 Speaker 2: these people the, clarification, involves well we need a two. 1635 01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:26,599 Speaker 2: State solution there has to be a two. State solution 1636 01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:30,479 Speaker 2: what we need is a two. State, solution ambassador is 1637 01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:33,360 Speaker 2: there any possibility at all ever in any way of 1638 01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:35,120 Speaker 2: a two. State, solution well. 1639 01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:36,760 Speaker 7: It's not two and it's, not state and it's. Not 1640 01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:39,720 Speaker 7: solution but let aside, from that let me get back 1641 01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:40,000 Speaker 7: to that in. 1642 01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:41,280 Speaker 2: A minute i. 1643 01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:43,160 Speaker 7: GOT sidetracked i was going to say something About The New. 1644 01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:46,560 Speaker 2: York, times oh, go ahead, you KNOW as i, said Before. 1645 01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:49,040 Speaker 7: The New york times blood libel Against the State, of 1646 01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:53,400 Speaker 7: israel where it puts a baby suffering from cystic fibrosis 1647 01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:57,160 Speaker 7: on the cover and claims and crops out the brother who's, 1648 01:39:57,160 --> 01:40:00,240 Speaker 7: perfectly healthy and you can't really see that the other 1649 01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:04,559 Speaker 7: is perfectly healthy because she's kind of coddling the spine 1650 01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:10,160 Speaker 7: exposed little. Boy suffering they knew what the. Story was they, 1651 01:40:10,280 --> 01:40:15,120 Speaker 7: knew it and it hit some seventy to eighty million 1652 01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:18,080 Speaker 7: people when they were attracted it five, days later and 1653 01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:21,040 Speaker 7: it really wasn't. A attraction it was this melli mouth kind. 1654 01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:25,599 Speaker 7: Of apologetica it nearly didn't really say that We were It. 1655 01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:32,439 Speaker 7: Wasn't amiacolpa some fifty thousand people saw it five. 1656 01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:33,759 Speaker 2: DAYS later i didn't even understand. 1657 01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:35,880 Speaker 7: The context that's a. BLOOD libel, i mean what is 1658 01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:40,639 Speaker 7: the difference between that and Saying that jews use blood 1659 01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:44,439 Speaker 7: in preparing their masters. For passover that's an excuse To. 1660 01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:45,880 Speaker 7: Kill jews and we. Saw it by, THE way i 1661 01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:50,080 Speaker 7: had two of my. Employees killed two diplomats from the 1662 01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:52,880 Speaker 7: Embassy and jerusalem were shot dead by somebody who Flew 1663 01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:55,960 Speaker 7: from chicago with a gun and, said, free Free free 1664 01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:58,120 Speaker 7: palestine and shot. Them dead as a matter, of fact 1665 01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:01,639 Speaker 7: when the Young girl Sarah, from kansas beautiful young lady 1666 01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:03,920 Speaker 7: was crawling away after she had, been shot once he 1667 01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:06,720 Speaker 7: moved closer to make sure that she, was dead, you 1668 01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:10,160 Speaker 7: know fired. Another round where did this sickness, come from 1669 01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:14,320 Speaker 7: if not from this campus insanity or from people claiming 1670 01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:20,120 Speaker 7: that we're implementing. A genocide implementing. A genocide it is 1671 01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:24,160 Speaker 7: unprecedented in the annals of history of modern warfare where 1672 01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:27,400 Speaker 7: a country at war with a foreign entity is providing 1673 01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:31,160 Speaker 7: a surge of. Humanitarian funding we're not responsible. For that 1674 01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:35,799 Speaker 7: we're responsible to ALLOW the unn to facilitate the provision 1675 01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:38,240 Speaker 7: of humanitarian and we're. Doing THAT and i don't want 1676 01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:39,320 Speaker 7: to get back. To, them no we're doing it in a, 1677 01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:40,720 Speaker 7: big way a. Big way but let me get Back 1678 01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:43,320 Speaker 7: To New. York Times The New york times in the 1679 01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:47,519 Speaker 7: early part of the twentieth Century under. JEWISH ownership i 1680 01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:49,960 Speaker 7: love it when, people, say well, You Know bernie Sanders. A, 1681 01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:52,720 Speaker 7: jew okay you. 1682 01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:55,040 Speaker 2: Want to hear my Takes, no, yeah. Listen listen he's. 1683 01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:57,000 Speaker 7: Not, ideal okay he's a head Of a. Jewish, mother 1684 01:41:57,120 --> 01:42:00,240 Speaker 7: okay but, you, know please don't claim the mantle that 1685 01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:01,519 Speaker 7: you have a right to speak and we Have the 1686 01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:02,600 Speaker 7: jewish people because you Had a. 1687 01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:03,240 Speaker 2: Jewish mother that. 1688 01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:07,120 Speaker 7: Doesn't. Rate okay question is how do you feel about 1689 01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:08,840 Speaker 7: the State. Of israel how do you feel about the 1690 01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:10,720 Speaker 7: most important Thing the jewish people have in the? 1691 01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:11,000 Speaker 2: World? 1692 01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:15,440 Speaker 7: Today okay if you're constantly working to put an embargo, 1693 01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:17,400 Speaker 7: on them don't claim the mantle of you, KNOW what 1694 01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:19,919 Speaker 7: i Have a, jewish ACCENT that i Come from brooklyn 1695 01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:21,240 Speaker 7: with all, DUE respect. 1696 01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:24,599 Speaker 2: I loved the whole with all. Due respect line because, 1697 01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:28,200 Speaker 2: For me, I'LL say i won't speak for. The ambassador 1698 01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:31,719 Speaker 2: there's no respect to Have For. Bernie. Sanders None bernie 1699 01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:37,680 Speaker 2: sanders on every level is. A failure a failure is, 1700 01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:40,880 Speaker 2: a man a failure in, his politics a failure when 1701 01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:43,479 Speaker 2: it comes to being able to recognize right, from wrong 1702 01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:47,519 Speaker 2: a failure to speak honestly and clearly he's a failed 1703 01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:52,400 Speaker 2: human being who has never provided any value anywhere. At 1704 01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:57,280 Speaker 2: all that he has popularity that People like Dana bash 1705 01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:01,040 Speaker 2: OVER at cnn want a lot and. Glorify him really, 1706 01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:04,559 Speaker 2: ugly STUFF as i, see it very very. Ugly stuff 1707 01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:09,719 Speaker 2: my conversation with Ambassador And michael leiterer Of The israeli 1708 01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:13,400 Speaker 2: ambassador To The. UNITED states, i mean it covered, a lot, 1709 01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:15,880 Speaker 2: a lot a lot, of Subjects and i'm gonna be 1710 01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:18,160 Speaker 2: posting the, whole thing so you. Have it i'm gonna 1711 01:43:18,160 --> 01:43:21,240 Speaker 2: be playing more of it in the. Days ahead just 1712 01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:24,439 Speaker 2: a look of philosophy is, to like what moves, these 1713 01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:26,680 Speaker 2: people what exactly are they? 1714 01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:30,000 Speaker 3: All about and certainly when it comes to the absolute. 1715 01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:35,040 Speaker 2: Horror Of The New, york times when it comes, to 1716 01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:38,360 Speaker 2: them we have to stop thinking of them as the paper. 1717 01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:40,880 Speaker 2: Of record i've said, This before i'll say. It Again 1718 01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:42,880 Speaker 2: The New york post has to be the paper, of 1719 01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:45,599 Speaker 2: Record And president trump should. Say So The New york 1720 01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:49,920 Speaker 2: times is no longer. In charge this is. Not news 1721 01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:54,760 Speaker 2: how many more times can they? Fail Enough The New 1722 01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:57,439 Speaker 2: york post is the, Paper Record The washington times is 1723 01:43:57,479 --> 01:43:57,880 Speaker 2: the paper. 1724 01:43:57,880 --> 01:44:02,120 Speaker 3: Of record you're the. Paper record far better track record 1725 01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:04,519 Speaker 3: Than The New. York times we. 1726 01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:05,280 Speaker 2: Need to put an end to. 1727 01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:07,559 Speaker 3: This immediately if, not sooner keep. 1728 01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:09,840 Speaker 2: It Here I'm. Tony kats This Is tony. KATS today 1729 01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:12,479 Speaker 2: i don't know what's going on. With today if it's 1730 01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:14,880 Speaker 2: something in, the water if there's a, full moon, half 1731 01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:19,040 Speaker 2: moon if there's, MULTIPLE moons i. Don't know but my 1732 01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:22,200 Speaker 2: social media feed has been nuttier. Than Normal. 1733 01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:24,960 Speaker 3: Tony Kats tony kats today is so good to be. 1734 01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:27,400 Speaker 2: With you and it's NOT that i don't get crazy 1735 01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:32,840 Speaker 2: people in throwing crazy stuff. My way it's that not 1736 01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:35,840 Speaker 2: every DAY do i get Called. A nazi and today 1737 01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:39,120 Speaker 2: it was just like chock full. Of it somebody yelled 1738 01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:41,240 Speaker 2: at ME because i breathed too much into. 1739 01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:42,400 Speaker 3: The microphone, i'm like what? 1740 01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:45,639 Speaker 2: Are you what are you? Talking, about like people are 1741 01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:48,439 Speaker 2: just very angry and they don't know how to express 1742 01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:52,639 Speaker 2: themselves and so it comes out. In insanity and So 1743 01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:55,439 Speaker 2: the nazi thing today was the same stuff, you, Get 1744 01:44:55,560 --> 01:44:57,680 Speaker 2: right it's not Different because i'm on this side of. 1745 01:44:57,720 --> 01:45:00,439 Speaker 2: The microphone oh you disagree, with me you must Be. 1746 01:45:00,479 --> 01:45:02,839 Speaker 2: A nazi oh Used, fort trump you must Be. A Nazi, 1747 01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:06,479 Speaker 2: OH uh i don't like what you wore. This morning 1748 01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:08,679 Speaker 2: you must Be, a, Nazi right it's it's that kind. 1749 01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:12,880 Speaker 2: Of thing It's, this pavlovian ridiculous response from people with 1750 01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:16,320 Speaker 2: small minds who do, not know they don't know how. 1751 01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:19,880 Speaker 2: To engage Then There's, joy REID which i will Tell 1752 01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:23,160 Speaker 2: you i've been trying not to play any of, her 1753 01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:24,559 Speaker 2: stuff not. 1754 01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:28,639 Speaker 3: At all she's it's just it's. Beyond silly but this 1755 01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:30,240 Speaker 3: is a new Level of. 1756 01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:33,479 Speaker 2: Are we calling it? 1757 01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:33,720 Speaker 3: Black? 1758 01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:38,000 Speaker 2: Supremacist right, if not Then then i'll, come up give 1759 01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:39,559 Speaker 2: me a. Different name you tell me what. 1760 01:45:39,600 --> 01:45:42,160 Speaker 5: This is they can't fix the history. 1761 01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:47,400 Speaker 8: They did their ancestors made this country into a slave. A. 1762 01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:49,719 Speaker 3: Slave hell she's talking about. 1763 01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:53,799 Speaker 2: White people she's on, this podcast she's talking about. 1764 01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:55,880 Speaker 3: White people she's wearing. 1765 01:45:55,640 --> 01:45:56,160 Speaker 2: A hat THAT. 1766 01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:59,799 Speaker 3: Says fdt what do you think? That means just? 1767 01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:01,120 Speaker 2: Just right. 1768 01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:03,799 Speaker 3: INSTEAD, of FJB. 1769 01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:07,600 Speaker 2: It's fdt and. 1770 01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:09,880 Speaker 5: Here they can't fix the history. 1771 01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:15,120 Speaker 8: They did their ancestors made this country into a slave. A. 1772 01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:18,599 Speaker 8: Slave hell but they can clean it up now because 1773 01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:20,519 Speaker 8: they Got. The smithsonian they can get rid of all the. 1774 01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:22,920 Speaker 8: Slavery stuff They, got prager you that can lie about 1775 01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:26,800 Speaker 8: the history to. The children they can't originally invent anything 1776 01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:29,200 Speaker 8: more than they ever were able to invent. Good music 1777 01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:33,000 Speaker 8: we black folk gave y'all, country music, HIP hop R, and, 1778 01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:34,160 Speaker 8: b jazz rock. 1779 01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:36,840 Speaker 5: And roll they couldn't even. Invent that but they have to. 1780 01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:40,559 Speaker 8: Call a white man the king because they couldn't make rock. 1781 01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:43,360 Speaker 8: And roll so they have to stamp the king on 1782 01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:45,440 Speaker 8: a man whose main song. 1783 01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:48,880 Speaker 5: Was stolen from an overweight. Black, WOMAN well i. 1784 01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:50,720 Speaker 2: Didn't realize we were going to be doing the whole 1785 01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:51,519 Speaker 2: white men can. 1786 01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:54,720 Speaker 3: Jump mentality that is. 1787 01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:58,479 Speaker 2: SOMETHING else i also noticed that she doesn't mention all 1788 01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:01,960 Speaker 2: the thousands upon thousands of one hundreds of thousands of 1789 01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:05,880 Speaker 2: white men who died to, end slavery all Of The. 1790 01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:10,400 Speaker 3: Civil war but that's not. The argument that's not worthy of. 1791 01:47:10,439 --> 01:47:14,400 Speaker 2: Our time what is to note here is that JUST 1792 01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:19,160 Speaker 2: like i was talking about these trolls, so broken she's got. 1793 01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:22,080 Speaker 3: Nothing else she can't, talk policy she can't. 1794 01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:25,040 Speaker 2: Talk philosophy all she can do, is hate and that's 1795 01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:28,080 Speaker 2: why people like her progressives can't be allowed to have. 1796 01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:31,240 Speaker 2: Power again find Everything At tony katz. Dot, com tomorrow 1797 01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:32,120 Speaker 2: everyone take care