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Speaker 1: So the reporting of a story out of Minnesota just

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony kats today, good to be here, Good

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Speaker 1: to be with you. You've got a group of protesters

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Speaker 1: shouting anti ICE slogans behind a yellow police line. Oh god,

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Speaker 1: that is a mess of a photo right there. Ice

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Speaker 1: officers of Minneapolis were conducting targeted operations when riders began

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Speaker 1: and an attempt to kill them, and acted domestic terrorism.

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Speaker 1: This according to DH Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs, Tritia McLaughlin.

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Speaker 2: It might be the McLoughlin, but I say McLaughlin.

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Speaker 1: An ice officer fearing for his life, the lives of

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Speaker 1: his fellow force and safety of the public, fire defensive shots,

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Speaker 1: uses training and saved his own life and that of

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Speaker 2: So I mean, that's the story as of right now.

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Speaker 2: And there is video of this.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to grab it the best I can of

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Speaker 1: there's video of just this, but there.

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Speaker 2: Is a response.

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Speaker 1: You've got the Counsel for American Islamic Relations, who is

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Speaker 1: saying of this woman in an interview being done on

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Speaker 1: not gone through this yet. I'm hearing this like you are,

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Speaker 3: What is your message to the Trump administration in this moment.

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Speaker 4: You're not above the law, period. You cannot commit crimes

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Speaker 4: against innocent people, and that appears to be what happened today.

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Speaker 4: And so we're going to remind them and anybody else

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Speaker 4: and we're going to hold them accountable to it.

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Speaker 1: Are we also going to hold the Somali nationals and

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Speaker 1: anybody else associated with fraud accountable. By the way, the

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Speaker 2: That's the reporting. Yes, certainly we can find that that

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Speaker 1: If it's a nation of laws, everybody associated with the

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Speaker 4: No ICE agent can go around and shoot people. That's

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Speaker 4: exactly what happened here. We've had a previous incident as well.

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Speaker 4: This is not the first shooting that has happened in Minnesota,

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Speaker 4: and so we're hoping that we can get to the

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Speaker 4: much information as possible. But we're acting asking our folks

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Speaker 2: These we are waking up to what is happening.

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Speaker 1: Radicalize progressives believe that they can attack law enforcement officers

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Speaker 2: That is what's happening here.

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Speaker 4: Unquestionably untrained, untrained ICE agents who are coming untrained.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean untrained?

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Speaker 1: Hey, if you want to put more money to training,

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Speaker 2: But untrained, Well, there's a false statement.

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Speaker 4: Nearly two thousand for what, for what purpose other than

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Speaker 4: to separate families, to disrupt the peace, on the purpose

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Speaker 4: of a policy of political rhetoric, President Trump is trying

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Speaker 4: to score political points and really terrorize our state because

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Speaker 4: logic behind is happening. This is unacceptable behavior.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why Trump is doing anything, but I'm

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Speaker 1: sure it must be bad, so therefore I'll be opposed

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Speaker 2: That is a great line counter for American Islamic relations.

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Speaker 1: Are people in the country illegally and should we remove them?

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Speaker 2: Nation of laws?

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Speaker 1: You said separating families, But if they're in the country illegally, shouldn't.

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Speaker 2: We follow the law? So you think we should follow

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Speaker 1: Of course, a family gets separated, in which case we

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Speaker 2: I don't think that. I don't think that at all.

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Speaker 4: We see the worst version of it today in the

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Speaker 4: that this is unacceptable and we need as.

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Speaker 1: We learn more about the situation, the reporting tells us

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Speaker 2: Pretty sure that's a bad idea.

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: Could the reporting be wrong? Sure, the reporting could be wrong.

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Speaker 1: Could he be wrong? Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: Every person to wake up and look outside their window

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Speaker 4: and identify and record these people's behavior, because they're absolutely dangerous.

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Speaker 2: We have record these people's behavior. There has been nothing

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Speaker 1: More helpful to show exactly what we're dealing with in

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Speaker 2: But a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: Acting very foolish and engaged in violent behavior. Of course

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Speaker 2: Just curious? How is that fascism it's not.

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Speaker 1: But we know this, We're fully aware of it. It's

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Speaker 2: How dare you notice what these people are doing?

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, this guy who leads abstensibly leads care in some

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Speaker 2: Through so much over the recent years.

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Speaker 3: What is your message to the people of Minneapolis that

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Speaker 4: Are a strong community. We have dealt with a lot more.

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Speaker 4: And I believe in this moment God has chosen us

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Speaker 2: What authoritarianism? You just said. We're a nation of laws.

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Speaker 1: What's being done are the law in force of the

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Speaker 2: In the chat United States of fascism doesn't mean anything authoritarianism.

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Speaker 2: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: The president was elected by the people. He's following the

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Speaker 1: You're angry that the laws being followed, while you then

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Speaker 2: That's pretty nutty.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that man his name is Jay Lannie,

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Speaker 2: Right, they refuse to.

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Speaker 1: Actually take a look at what laws are being enforced.

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Speaker 1: The answer is look at these bad ice agents.

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Speaker 1: In Minneapolis where our reporter Alex Tappitt is standing by.

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Speaker 2: What's happening here.

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Speaker 3: Now, Alex Chris, we are right at the scene where

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Speaker 1: Because ICE doesn't investigate these kinds of things. That's not

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Speaker 2: Makes perfect sense.

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Speaker 3: Introducer, I want to introduce you. I want to introduce

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Speaker 3: you to you. The head of your nonprofits, Lani Jelani,

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Speaker 2: Well, this is what we predicted.

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Speaker 4: We predicted that these ICE agents are untrained. They have

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Speaker 4: been literally coming into our streets with arsenal and they've

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Speaker 1: The reporting says otherwise. And I'll wait to get more reporting,

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Speaker 1: absolutely I will. But we've seen ICE agents get shot

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Speaker 1: at that happened in Dallas. We've seen ICE agents attacked.

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Speaker 1: How dare we enforce the law? We should enforce the law.

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Speaker 1: How dare MSNBC. I'm sorry, MS now, miss now make

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Speaker 1: But here's what we have right now. We don't know

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Speaker 1: So you want people to attack ICE agents, so ICE

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Speaker 1: agents have to protect themselves. And if somebody dies, that

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Speaker 1: proves your point. That's very Hamas thinking. You know, in

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Speaker 1: the eyes of Hamas, if in Israeli dies Hamas wins,

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Speaker 1: and if a citizen of Gaza dies, Hamas wins, they

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Speaker 1: don't care. That's what this smacks of. But this is

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Speaker 1: all breaking. We're gonna have more information on that tomorrow

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Speaker 2: Keep it here. This is Tony Katz today,