1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: You've got to calm down. 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 2: What what did I do? 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you just you're totally out of control. It's 4 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: going to be. 5 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, good. 6 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: I mean you are just beside yourself over this government shutdown. 7 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: Oh yes, I am, and I don't know what to do. 8 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: None of it matters, right the guy just I am so. 9 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: Over calmed down. So over all of. 10 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: This, I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous, and nothing 11 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: ever actually changes. I don't I don't know why anybody 12 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: is even concerned about this word about this. First of all, 13 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: how many there's been multiple government shutdowns in my adult 14 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: life or even in the past ten years, and our 15 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: country is not any better. The government never gets itself 16 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: under control. The overhalling majority of these people who are 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: laid off, and only are they all brought back, but 18 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: then they get all the money that they get that 19 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: they were, that they didn't get paid while they were. 20 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: The government's the only play where you can get let go, 21 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: and then they bring you back and they're like, oops, sorry, 22 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: and here's the money, here's extra money for you. So 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: all of this hopping and puffing nothing's gonna change. Our 24 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: country is thirty seven plus trillion dollars in debt now 25 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: the fight over the government shutdown. By the way, can 26 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: you believe Trump took that meeting with Schumer and Jeffries, 27 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: who the only reason they wanted that meeting was to 28 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: try to play Trump against Mike Johnson, the Speaker of 29 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: the House and John Thune, the pro tem the leader 30 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: of the Senate. And he took the bait and took 31 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: the meeting. I was floored that he did that, because 32 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: as soon as the meeting was over, Schumer and Jeffries 33 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: run out there and go, oh, we're seeing cracks in 34 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: the Republican alignment. We think Trump is more sympathetic to 35 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: continuing the Obamacare subsidies. I am, I am flored that 36 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: Trump is supposed to be this great negotiator actually met 37 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: with those guys and gave them the freebiea being able 38 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: to do that. 39 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 3: Did you see the AI video that he posted afterwards? No, 40 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 3: I missed, do hakeem Jeffrey's wearing a sombrero. 41 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: Schumer. 42 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 3: Of course, they took to the microphone as soon as 43 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 3: they exited that meeting. Yeah, I find that to be inappropriate. 44 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 3: I know Trump's put a lot of AI stuff out there, 45 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 3: but come on, at least be somewhat try fake it. 46 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: Could you pretend to be presidential? 47 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: Well, let's this is a great learning opportunity for people 48 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: because let's talk about what this is actually all about, 49 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: and it will put on full display how disingenuous the Republicans, 50 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: who control everything actually are. So the Democrats they want 51 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: several things, but the main thing they want is the 52 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: Republicans as part of this government funding bill to continue 53 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: the Obamacare subsidies. So again, the Republicans who control all 54 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: of government, have another opportunity to actually do what they've 55 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: said that they're all about, which is getting federal spending 56 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: under control. Right now, everything is Biden level spending. Everything 57 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: the Republicans are doing are Biden level spending items. So 58 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: the Republicans who have been let's see what is this 59 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: we're in month we're entering month ten. No actual cuts 60 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 1: in terms of the amount of money we're being that's 61 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: being spent. Most of the DOGE money it came out 62 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: that was cut goes back to these offices and they 63 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 1: spend it on something else. Most of it, it's not 64 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: like it actually gets returned into the treasury and doesn't 65 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: get spent. 66 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, when no Trump was saying that he was going 67 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: to give it to farmers because of the terrorists. 68 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: Well, can we get to that in just a second, 69 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: because that was while I was gone, and I do 70 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: I do want to talk about that for a second, 71 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: because of course the you're against farmer people came out 72 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: in full force after that one, totally ignoring the billions 73 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: and billions of annual subsidies we give to quote unquote 74 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: farmers who, let's face it, for the most part, are 75 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: just now mega corporations, because that's what not all but 76 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: a lot of farming is in this country are megacorps 77 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: making a gajillion dollars. But for the moment, let's stay 78 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: focused on this. So no actual cuts, Biden level spending 79 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: still in full fource, and the Republicans their quote unquote 80 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: clean bill is just a continuation of that. It's ad 81 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: and the Democrats are like, nah, not good enough for us, 82 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: because we need Obamacare to keep rolling like the disastrous 83 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: freight train that it actually is. And the Republicans aren't 84 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: ruling it out. They're not like, no, we're done with this, 85 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: because for fifteen years they've huffed and puffed about Obamacare 86 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: this and Obamacare that, casey, is your insurance any cheaper 87 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: than it was fifteen years ago? 88 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: No, it's not. 89 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: No. 90 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: You know who got out good on Obamacare, the government 91 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: and the insurance companies. And once again the Republicans have 92 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: another opportunity to do as they've talked about for fifteen years. Now, 93 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: keep in mind as I'm telling you all this, which 94 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: is there's irrefutable evidence to everything I'm telling you. You 95 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: can totally confirm it for yourself at anytime you want. 96 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: Somebody is listening to their radio right now screaming about 97 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: what a horrible person I am for pointing all this out. 98 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: They won't. They won't dispute it, they won't refut it. 99 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: They'll just be mad that. I'm telling you what a 100 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: bunch of pathological liars the Republicans are. They're saying. They're 101 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: not saying, no, we're done with Obamacare. They're not saying, no, 102 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: we're going to follow through on our pledge to finally 103 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: stop this monstrosity. They're saying, we'll deal with that after 104 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: you pass the funding bill later. 105 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, kick it down the road. 106 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: Because Obamacare cannot exist without government subsidies. Because that's all 107 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: Obamacare was, was a giveaway to the insurance companies. Casey, 108 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: what's it called if you take money and you give 109 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: it to someone else, and then the person takes that 110 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: money and then passes it back to you in another form. 111 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: There's like a name, there's. 112 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: Is it cleaner after that process? 113 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: Right? So all that happens here is that the Republicans 114 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: have given, and the Democrats, because they're all includes on this, 115 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: because I all keep voting to fund Obamacare, have given. 116 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: At this point, it's got to be trillions of dollars 117 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: to the insurance companies, who then, through their powerful lobbying 118 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: arm and donors, give a bunch of that money back 119 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: to the various politicians. They're not saying, we're done with Obamacare. 120 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: It's been a plague on humanity. It hasn't made insurance 121 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: any cheaper, it hasn't made healthcare any better. We're done 122 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: with this. We're putting a knife in it, and we're 123 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: done for forever. They're saying, no, no, no, we just 124 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: got to get through the government funding goal and then 125 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: we'll address the Obamacare subsidies, which Obamacare cannot exist without 126 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: the subsidies. 127 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 3: Okay, so the essential services will remain open if the 128 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 3: government shuts down this determined by the Trump administration. And 129 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 3: this is something that should really. 130 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 2: Make you smile. 131 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: Guess who continues to get paid if there is a 132 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: government shutdown? 133 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: The Congress people, yeah. 134 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: And the President and the Supreme Court, sure, and all 135 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 3: the Congressional staff totally members of Congress. 136 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it affects them, not at all. 137 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: But what's amazing to me, and this is what I 138 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: just can't get passed, is the people that are still 139 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: out there on our side, cheerleading for the Republicans in 140 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: Congress and the President who are doing nothing but continuing 141 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's spending levels and the overwhelming majority of Joe 142 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: Biden's priorities. And yet we still have people who live 143 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: in this delusional fantasy world that there are good guys 144 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: and bad guys and so so what if the government 145 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: shuts down? We all know how this is gonna go. 146 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: This is all dinner theater. The Democrats are doing it 147 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: because Schumer's worried about a primary challenge. The Republicans are 148 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: doing it because they want you to believe they're somehow 149 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: reforming the government. Nothing will change, they will eventually one 150 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: side will cave quote unquote cave. Obamacare is still gonna 151 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: get fully funded, whether it is now through this thing 152 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: or in a month from now, nothing will get any better. 153 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: And the same people who are on social media media 154 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: cheerleading for these Republicans will then be the first people 155 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: to bitch and scream that inflation doesn't get any better, 156 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: that they don't get any interest on their money, that 157 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: the economy is a wreck, and they will wonder why 158 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: this kid like it is of no interest to me, Casey, 159 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: because I've seen how this always plays out. 160 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: Well, you got to have somebody to fight against when 161 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 3: you're in office, right and right now the Republicans they're 162 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: fighting against the Demo. 163 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a tail as old as time. But 164 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: here's JD. Vance and he's talking to the Democrats. 165 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 4: One of the things I admired about the president, but 166 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 4: frankly the entire team's approach during the conversation we just 167 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 4: had with Chuck Schumer and Akiem Jeffries, was you know, yeah, 168 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 4: they have some crazy ideas. Giving taxpayer money to illegal 169 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 4: aliens for health care. That's a crazy idea. Funding transgender 170 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 4: surgeries in Peru, that's a crazy idea. But they had 171 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 4: some ideas that I actually thought were reasonable and they 172 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 4: had some ideas that the President thought was reasonable. What's 173 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 4: not reasonable is to hold those ideas as leverage and 174 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 4: to shut down the government unless we give you everything 175 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 4: that you want. There were multiple times where Leader Jeffries 176 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 4: or Leader Shoomer would say, you know what, we should 177 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 4: be doing this, and the President the United. 178 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: States would say, yeah, absolutely, let's have. 179 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 4: That conversation, but we're going to do it in the 180 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 4: context of the people's government being open. We're not going 181 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 4: to let you take the people's government hostage and then 182 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 4: give you everything you want. And that's really the state 183 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 4: of the negotiation. Yeah, let's have a conversation. Let's have 184 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 4: a negotiation, or we're not going to shut down the 185 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 4: government because we won't give the Democrats everything that they want. 186 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: Oh, who the problem is, mister Vice President. You already 187 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: fund healthcare for illegals, as came out in the big 188 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: bullcrap bill. You already fund sex surgeries for kids, as 189 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: came out in the big bullcrap bill, and you had 190 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: a chance to pull it out, and you guys came. 191 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: So I don't want to hear any lecture from him 192 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: about what the Democrats want because you guys, you being 193 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: the Republicans already had a chance to stop that, and 194 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: you did well. 195 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: He's also talking about the people's government, which just means 196 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: my agenda depending on who's talking. 197 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: Totally, there's very I don't know, we're gonna get you 198 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: a break here, but there is very little actual difference 199 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: between these two sides. There's a debate on whether the 200 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: Republicans could even get all of their own people to 201 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: vote for this quote unquote clean government funding bill. It's 202 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: not fully fully accepted that Murkowski and there talking about 203 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: switching party the usual goof troop. Well, so these people 204 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: are all ridiculous. If you cheer for any of them, 205 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: shame on you. They all hate you, they all work 206 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: against you. There are no there there, There ain't no 207 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: good guy. There ain't no bad. 208 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: Guys and me we just disagree. It is the Kendall 209 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: and Casey show. 210 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: It's ninety three w ibcy. 211 00:10:51,920 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: No good guy, very no bad guy. 212 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: Okay, I can't believe you're excited about this game coming back. 213 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: We know it's been proven to be in the past 214 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: a giant scam. 215 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: Am. 216 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 1: I well, you you set the template and you were like. 217 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, what's going on? Monopoli, we talk about 218 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: what's going on. 219 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 1: You were just euphoric, and so I looked at you, 220 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: said what's the best So the Monopoly game is coming 221 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: back to McDonald's. So those of you aren't assume most 222 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: people are aware, but they put when you buy a 223 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: certain I assume it's still the same. You buy a 224 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: certain size beverage or fry or you know, valgg McMuffin 225 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: large fry. Yeah, there's a list of things that qualify 226 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 1: and on that rapper or package, there's there's monopoly pieces 227 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: that you pull off and if you get you know, 228 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: all three or all two or all four whatever the 229 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: you know number is of the of the properties, then 230 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: you win some sort of prize. And there's also those 231 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: instant winner. Hey you win a French fry as soda whatever. 232 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: And so I asked you, what's the coolest thing you 233 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: ever won on the Monopoly game? 234 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: Instant food? 235 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, food, that's it. 236 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, fries for most people. 237 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: I would guess that's the case. Because it came out. 238 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: This was a fabulous documentary. This was during COVID. I 239 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: think that this came out because maybe it was just 240 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: a little bit pre COVID because the guy was here 241 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: with the women at the time. When it came out 242 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: on Netflix, I think was it Netflix, HBO is maybe 243 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: it was HBO, Yeah, it was HBO about how between 244 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,599 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine and two thousand and one, which was 245 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: sort of the high point of this game because it 246 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: went on, you know, various times for years. How Rigged 247 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: the Game actually was where there were essentially no legitimate 248 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: grand prize million dollar winners because the guy who I 249 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: think he was head of. 250 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: Security, Jerome Jacobsen was his name. 251 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: At his name, he he somehow was able to rig 252 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: I forget how the whole thing went down, but he 253 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: was able to rig so that people he selected who 254 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: were connected to him won the money, and then I 255 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: think he was getting. 256 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: A cut of yeah, the big cut of the deal. 257 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 3: He got twenty four million dollars worth of prizes between 258 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 3: eighty nine and one. 259 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 1: If you have not mcmillions is the name of the documentary. 260 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: If you've never seen it, totally look it up and 261 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: go watch. It's a fabulous how. The FBI, basically, I 262 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: remember recalling, they had these tips for quite a while 263 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: and they were just sitting on them, not doing anything 264 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: about it. And then some new young whipper snapper came 265 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: in and was like, Hey, I'm going to actually look 266 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: into this, and then the whole thing proved to be legit, 267 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: the light could prove to be legit, and the whole 268 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: thing went down. So but you you're taking the bait. 269 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: You're like, give me some more of that previously rigged game, 270 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: because you. 271 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 2: Know how often I go to McDonald's. 272 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: How often would you say you go to McDonald's. 273 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: Maybe once every couple of years. 274 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: What, Yeah, like you know McDonald's you go to every 275 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: couple years. You go to McDonald's. Yeah, that's it. 276 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: Yes, it's not like a regular stop. Where do you go? 277 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: By the way, another person sent me some Oh I 278 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: won't put this up here because I don't want to 279 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: reveal it. Well, I guess if you're gonna send it 280 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: to me anyway. Somebody sent me some fabulous Arby's coupons. 281 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, here another envelope full of coupons for you. I 282 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 3: think what people are doing is sending you the Arby's 283 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 3: coupons so that you can have the Rob Kendall dinner. 284 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: You know. 285 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: Oh, that's right, So this is like ered by Arby's. 286 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: The third or fourth person in the past couple of weeks, 287 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: who has sent me just and these are I'm like 288 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people, which is fine. They just send 289 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: me the sheet of coupons. This person actually went and. 290 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: They clipped them for you. 291 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 3: That's nice that way you don't have to rip it 292 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 3: apart when you're in the drive through line. 293 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: Yes, which makes it very helpful. But to come back 294 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: in touch on this, maybe you would ask, yes, we 295 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: are going to do something. In regards to a Rob 296 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: Kendall Lincoln Day dinner, WIBC had a ton of you 297 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: right in say you want to do this. People are 298 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: saying they're interested in sponsoring it. I was told within 299 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: the next couple weeks we will hopefully be able to 300 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: have some sort of announcement on what we're going to do. 301 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: Of course, this stems from me being banned from the 302 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: Hendricks County Lincoln Day dinner because they were very concerned. 303 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: I was going to ask Diego Morales who paid for 304 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: his trip to India, and I would ask Micae Beck 305 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: with how did you end up at Game three of 306 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: the NBA Finals with the high profile known felon. They 307 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: didn't want those questions being asked at their dinner instead 308 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: of holding their candidates accountable. They said it's easier just 309 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: to ban Rob from attending because we support this sort 310 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: of trash and we don't dare want these people being 311 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: asked questions in public that they don't have good answers for, 312 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: or we don't want them being asked by somebody who's 313 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: smart enough and vocaloft to clap back when they give 314 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: a bull crap answer. And so they banned me. So 315 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: people were like, well, this is outrageous and WIBC. I 316 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: heard from so many people. They said, well, let's do 317 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: our own event, because we had pitched the idea of 318 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: doing this and. 319 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: You had mentioned that you want it to be catered 320 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 3: by Arby's, so now you're just getting Arby's coupons left 321 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: and right. People want this to happen. 322 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: And by the way, if Phil Clay, the head of 323 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: the Hinders County Republican Party, would like to refute anything 324 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying here, he is more than welcome to come 325 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: on and we'll have the conversation here in front of everybody. 326 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: If Phil Clay would like to refute what I've said 327 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: about us having a conversation on the phone a month 328 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: and a half two months ago, and we were all 329 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: cool at that time. He's more than welcome to come on. Now, 330 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: he not going to do that because he knows how 331 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: that would go. And he's got that cushy government job 332 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: now where he's accountable to Braun as the head of 333 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: the Civil Rights Commission, So he don't want any part 334 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: of that. But if anybody, if he wants to have 335 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: that conversation, we're more than willing to do that in 336 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: front of everybody here on the radio station. But point 337 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: of all this is now, maybe maybe McDonald's could get 338 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: it on that. Maybe we could pit these sides against 339 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: each other. Maybe McDonald's would like to get in on 340 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: the uh yeah, get on the catering acts. 341 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 2: If you'd like to play McDonald's monopoly. 342 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: Isn't that interesting how a conversation about McDonald's monopoly turned 343 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 3: into the Lincoln Day dinner. 344 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: Conde there? 345 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 3: But if you want to play McDonald's Monopoly, it's returning 346 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 3: on October sixth, and you can get the physical peel 347 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 3: off sticker or a digital sticker via the app. 348 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, I quite as much fun. 349 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: How do you what? 350 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 2: They give you a choice, Well, you can do either one. 351 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, no, premises to get the member what 352 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: they used to have, the like menu thing with the 353 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: with the matt and you put your pieces on there right, 354 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: keep tracking. 355 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, well now you can do it digitally. 356 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: Oh how exciting it is. 357 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three w IBC. 358 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: I told you, if you're right again, I told you 359 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: these data centers they're horror movie characters. It's Jason Vorhees, 360 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: it's Michael Myers, it's Freddy Krueger. Just because you beat 361 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: them once once, it's never over. There has to be 362 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: another sequel. And now Wish TV has this article up 363 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: that last night the Morgan County Plan Commission voted to 364 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: screw over their residents who have come out in droves 365 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: who are overwhelmingly against this. And this is what is 366 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: so ridiculous to me, this publicly unnamed project that wants 367 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: to put a data center center's plural or whatever on 368 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 1: three hundred and ninety acres in Well, I guess they've 369 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: they've pared it down. It was three hundred and ninety acres. 370 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: Now they've they've paired this down that it's not quite 371 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: as big, but it's one hundred and fifty eight acres 372 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: now and they've approved it basically for the second time. 373 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: And what I cannot fathom is how if you are 374 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: on a government board and you're not disclosing to the 375 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: public something of this magnitude of what is going on there, 376 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: how you possibly could vote at a planning commission level 377 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: to approve this. 378 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't know who's behind it, but yeah, go ahead, 379 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 3: go for it. 380 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: I mean, there are there are smaller projects that involve 381 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: some level of non disclosure from time to time, which 382 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: you know, I understand I'm still not a big fan of, 383 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: you know, because some you know, smaller entity whatever, they're 384 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: concerned about proprietary secrets whatever. This is not that this is, 385 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: or it comes off as at least as or it 386 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: appears at least that this company, whoever it is, now 387 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: it's leaked out so allegedly that it's another Google project 388 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: going out there. Of course, the one in Franklin Township 389 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: has been beaten back for now. But what in the 390 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: hell is Morgan County and the people running Morgan County 391 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: what are they doing? One approving this think period, but 392 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: two going against their residents who have come out in 393 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: full force and rightfully so, with massive unanswered concerns about 394 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: these data center projects. 395 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. 396 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 3: So the project was part of a larger five hundred 397 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 3: and forty eight acre development, three hundred and ninety acres 398 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 3: already approved back in February, and now the plan is 399 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty eight acres and they've moved it 400 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 3: forward with a five to two vote by the Morgan 401 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 3: County Plan Commission. Of course, many people are concerned about 402 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 3: the higher utility costs and the declining property values. Also 403 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 3: just the negative impact it's going to have on why 404 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 3: the way. 405 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 2: The land looks, the esthetics of it. 406 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 3: There is another story very similar to this out of 407 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 3: Saint Joe County, New Carlisle, Northern Indiana, where the se 408 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 3: Joe County Council president initially stated. 409 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: Friday morning in a news right, I'm gonna cut you 410 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: off here. Yeah, somebody said this in the YouTube chat, 411 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: and I think Wish TV just didn't didn't word this correctly. 412 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: I think I think this person is right. I think 413 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: this was just not I'm not saying they did this 414 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: deliberately or titically or that even I think they added 415 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty eight acres to this project. I 416 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: think they approved the three to ninety and they didn't 417 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: come back and scale it down. 418 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 3: I think they scaled it up a plan to rezone 419 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty eight acres. 420 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: But I think that's on top of the three hundred 421 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: and ninety that they already approved back in February. I 422 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: think they're adding because that wouldn't make any sense. And so, 423 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: and somebody said this in the YouTube chat. And so 424 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: if somebody knows at Robin Kendall on Twitter or at 425 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: Casey Daniels three one seventy, can let us known the 426 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: YouTube chat. I think that this is and I think 427 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: that's right. I think it's on top of the three 428 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: hundred ninety. So now you're at five, you would be 429 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: at five hundred and forty eight acres. If indeed that 430 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: is correct, that is unbelievable. 431 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 2: So they had the. 432 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 3: Three hundred ninety eight already approved then, yeah, and they 433 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 3: needed to add one hundred and fifty eight. 434 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is what they did. Yeah, because this doesn't 435 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: make any sense. Playing commissiers in February, I'm just reading 436 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: this from Wisch TV approved three hundred ninety acres for 437 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: the same project. That wouldn't make any sense that they 438 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: would come back and ask for one hundred and fifty eight. 439 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: So I think they're right. I think that's correct, that 440 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: it's over. It's now over five hundred acres for this 441 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: mysterious project that they won't tell the public who it 442 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: is five hundred and forty eight. I don't mean to 443 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: cut you off, but I think I was getting that incorrect, 444 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: and I wanted to make. 445 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 3: Sure that I yeah, you want to be correct on that, 446 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 3: but you're right, go back to the point of who 447 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 3: is it, who's behind it? 448 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: That information is not available. 449 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: No, they won't. They won't tell you, So think about 450 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: it if you're so proud of And I just went 451 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: through this in warehouse Burg where I live over on 452 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: the west side, which, by the way, if you are 453 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: in the need for a high density housing development or 454 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: a lifeless bland dystopian warehouse, Brownsburg is definitely the place 455 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: for you to move. You should get all over that 456 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: as quick as you possibly can. Or that they gave 457 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 1: it some sort of goofy code. 458 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: Name project was Tahoe Project Tahoe. 459 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: And then it turns out that it was just a 460 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: giant Harper Collins warehouse. And then when I asked you, 461 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: is the IEDC was in the mix with quote unquote incentives. 462 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: I said, hey, you hid this from me as a 463 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: tax pair. You wouldn't tell me what it is. Can 464 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: you tell me what the actual incentives are? And the 465 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: economic development guy for the town gets up, No, no. 466 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: You can't have this information. 467 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: Think about that. 468 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 2: Okay. 469 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: I am a taxpayer who's paying for this, both in 470 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: terms of subsidizing it because they're getting an abatement, which fine, whatever, 471 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: But then I'm also in some capacity paying for this 472 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: as a state taxpayer because the IDC is involved. All 473 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: I want to know is what I paid to bring 474 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: this mega corporation to my community. One you don't get 475 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 1: to know who it is until after we voted on it. 476 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: And two, I'm not going to tell you what the 477 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: incentives are. And they tried to put it on the 478 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: id SEE and I said, wait a second, you guys 479 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: just get in bed with the boogeyman. That is so 480 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: rotten and corrupting an ethical they had to do a 481 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,719 Speaker 1: forensic audit. And now it's come out that these guys 482 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: who were the three Kings article we saw the other 483 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: day in the Indie Star where these three guys were 484 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: funneling hundreds of millions of dollars of projects to companies 485 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: they or things they were affiliated within some capacity. And 486 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: you guys didn't raise You guys, being the town counsel 487 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: dian't raise your hand and go, hey, we demand to 488 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: know exactly how this thing is being bought and sold 489 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: like that's our government. Hey, just step right up. We 490 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: don't need any information. Get out of here. But it's happening, 491 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: it looks to be happening over here. 492 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 3: Well, it's also happened in northern Indiana. So the San 493 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 3: Joe County Council president he initially put out a newsletter 494 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 3: on Friday saying that Meta was the end user for 495 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 3: proposed data center in New Carlisle, and then hours later 496 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 3: the newsletter was revised to say Meta was only a 497 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 3: possible company involved, And then when he was asked about it, 498 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 3: he said, they don't know who it is. The actual 499 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 3: company behind the project remains undisclosed. So how could they 500 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 3: be proposing a data center and nobody, not even the 501 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 3: president of the county council knows who's behind it. 502 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and see this is where for all the fake 503 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: bs braun huffing and puffing about utility rates and the 504 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: IEDC reforms. They're not going to reform anything that actually matters. 505 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: They want you to think they're doing something, because this 506 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,479 Speaker 1: is the crap that all would have to stop in 507 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: order for anyone to believe that you're actually serious about 508 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: the takairs or making this work, is that you have 509 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: a massive project. In this case, we're talking five hundred 510 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: and fifty plus acres of land of premium farm ground 511 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: that is going to go away. And the people of 512 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: that area, well, first of all, the people that area 513 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: number one don't get to know. And me as a 514 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 1: taxpayer who is probably subsidizing this in some capacity, even 515 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: though I don't live out there, I don't get to 516 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: know either. You don't give a damn about changing the system, 517 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: mister Braun. As long as anytime you can put IEDC 518 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: behind it and you can hide and communities can hide, 519 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: then no, you want the same result. You just want 520 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: people to think you're doing something about it. 521 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 3: And I'm going to give you this thinker to consider. 522 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 3: So we hear from our government officials. But you know, 523 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,959 Speaker 3: AI is the future. This is the direction we have 524 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 3: to go in this way, I mean, we need this. 525 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 3: AI is the future. Right when did the talking point 526 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 3: go from the children are our future to AI. 527 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 2: Is our future. 528 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. Well, look this is because you're and 529 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: the other thing they will not do. And James Briggs 530 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: from The Indie Star when he was in here a 531 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago with Jacob Stewart the other columnists 532 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: and they were having their back and forth debate on 533 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: the Franklin Township Data Center, he admitted this, they're not 534 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: clearly for any person who's like, well, it's going to 535 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: pay all these taxes? Really what taxes, because all we 536 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,719 Speaker 1: see right now is everything appears to be getting abated, 537 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: both the property real and personal, so the building and 538 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: the stuff in it. There's all these shadow incentives that 539 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: we don't know what it is. And I've never seen 540 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: on any of these data centers, especially ones that involve 541 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: the IDC, any sort of public disclosure to the taxpayers 542 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: on hey, in ten years, this is going to generate, 543 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: you know, ten million dollars in taxes. There's a reason 544 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: they're not laying that out. If it were so great, 545 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: they would be telling everybody exactly what it's going to be, 546 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: and they're not doing that. And there's a reason they're 547 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: not doing that. So for all you people say, oh, 548 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna pa all these taxes show us, but exactly 549 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: what the incentives are, Sure, what exactly what the giveaway is. 550 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 1: Sure what exactly what the tax is paid are going 551 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: to be, and then we can judge it. They don't 552 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: want to do that. 553 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 3: It is Kendally Casey. It's ninety three WYBC. 554 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: You got to go to no wind. Can you humor 555 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: me for just a second here? 556 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 2: Don't do that all the time every day. 557 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: You only need a second, is the Kennelly Casey, John 558 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: Rob that's Casey. So we were just talking about this, 559 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: this data the data center in Monrovia that's being proposed, 560 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: and how rotten the government and by the government. I'm 561 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: talking across the board, the state government hiding behind their 562 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: little iedc quasi government entity, and these local governments who 563 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: won't tell people exactly what's coming in. And but I 564 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: think it's the problem is we get focused on like 565 00:28:52,800 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: individual things, like individual developments or whatever. The issue at 566 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: is growth as a collective. I was thinking about this 567 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: on my way into work today. Most of you know 568 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: by now that I enjoy a good well it's now 569 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: forty minute drive it to work. He used to be 570 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: thirty minutes. But thanks to the various lines, the red, 571 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: the blue, there's another one in there. Even though nobody's 572 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: on these buses, it's added an additional ten minutes to 573 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: my commute. So I have an extra ten minutes to 574 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: think to myself about the various issues of the day. 575 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: And one of the things I was thinking about is 576 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: think about where I live. And the irresponsible growth, like 577 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: irresponsible bad growth comes in a variety of forms. The 578 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: data center or the solar farm or whatever is the 579 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: thing of the day. But the reality is it's been 580 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: going on now for really twenty plus years in Central Indiana, 581 00:29:54,080 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: in earnest the past eight since Holcombe became governor. And 582 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: one of the things that has become abundantly clear is 583 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: it all centers around irrespond to me irresponsible residential growth 584 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: for the most part, because what happens is when people 585 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: live in a place, it becomes their identity to some extent. 586 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: Like when I was growing up, Brownsburg was a very 587 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: small town and it was an idea, right It represented 588 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: a thing where all the businesses mattered on Main Street 589 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: and everybody sort of knew each other, even if you 590 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: didn't know them. By name, you knew them by some 591 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: sort of identity, and when you were out in the stores, 592 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: you saw people you recognize. And when you went to 593 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: the high school basketball game on Friday night, the gym 594 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: was filled and you sat next to the same people 595 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: every year, and like you formed a sense of community. 596 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: Not even people based on who you knew or were 597 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: close to, but we were all in this same place together, 598 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: and our name is an identity for other places, and 599 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: this is what we are, and you took pride in 600 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: protecting that. And so much with this irresponsible growth, especially 601 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: the past ten or fifteen years, has brought people to 602 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: these communities who have no semblance whatsoever of connection to 603 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: the place. It's just a place they decided to go, 604 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: and they don't. And it's a natural thing when you expand, 605 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: both in terms of number but also geography. Right when 606 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: you take things that were once beautiful fields that fed 607 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: a nation and then you make them high density housing developments. 608 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: So we're not even picking on the businesses on this one. 609 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: You have more area, which means people are less connected, 610 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: and because they're not brought up there, they're not ingrained 611 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: in what the thing is. And as you geographically expand, 612 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: then people go to different places to do things. So 613 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: for me, it's people go to Avon to shop, or 614 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: on the north side they'll go to Whitestown. They're not 615 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: connected into the community. You don't have that semblance of 616 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: I must protect this thing because this thing is my 617 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,239 Speaker 1: identity and it has brought me so much, and it 618 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: has it has made so much of what I am, 619 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: It has shaped my worldview. And so people aren't as 620 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: connected to the idea of, hey, there's some probably bad 621 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: economic development project and I will die before I let you, 622 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: will let you destroy this town. Those people are gone, 623 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: like they're literally dying off or they move away, or 624 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: they can't deal with it anymore. And so you don't 625 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: have hardly any people left relative to what you once 626 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: had defending the shield of a community to stop these 627 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: sort of projects. 628 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: It's not distinct. It's all homogenized now. 629 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: It is. You're right, one hundred percent. The idea of community, 630 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: especially in Central Indiana, has been so gutted because of 631 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: the irresponsible growth not only allowed by our local politicians, 632 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: but incentivized by our state, by our state government. 633 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's what you thinking on your way in. 634 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking about. 635 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 3: It by just light light stuff on the drive and 636 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 3: you know what I was thinking on my way in 637 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 3: this morning, what that one of these towering pallets on 638 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 3: the top of a pickup truck. 639 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: Don't hit me when. 640 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: You should tweet this photo out because I am amazed this. 641 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: This automobile was allowed to operate on a high density, 642 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: high traffic area and that that is legal. So it 643 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: is like a. 644 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 3: Truck, right, imagine an older pickup truck and in the 645 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 3: bed of the pickup truck seventeen they're construction pallettes, sure, 646 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 3: seventeen high, but there's two sides, so we're talking thirty 647 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 3: two thirty ish pallets strapped down with not really secure 648 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 3: looking straps on the back of this pickup truck. Have 649 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 3: you ever seen like people that get behind a logging 650 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 3: semi and they're afraid one of the big giant logs 651 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 3: is going to roll off and hit them. 652 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 2: That was my feeling this morning. 653 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: I looked very unsafe, and I hope you kept an 654 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 1: appropriate distance from that automobile as it was while maybe 655 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,919 Speaker 1: not rumbling down the highways and byways at a high 656 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: level of speed. 657 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 2: It was going down Washington very slow. 658 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 3: It had to make a turn, and I was concerned 659 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 3: when it entered the construction. 660 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 2: Area of Washington. 661 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: You ever seen what I call a tip ski They 662 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: ever seen like either a you know, a truck or 663 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 1: various sizes. Ever have something fall out real time? 664 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 2: Every now that thankfully no. I have been next to 665 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 2: a semi when it blew a tire. That was scary. 666 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sparks were flying just like right here in 667 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: the studio. Hey, there's pulling out about Trump and they 668 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: ask about Indiana? 669 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah? And it's very different. 670 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 3: Oh interesting, what hoo's yours think of Donald Trump is 671 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 3: very different from the rest of the nation. 672 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 2: We'll get to it coming up. 673 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 3: It's ninety three WYBC. 674 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 1: You got no wind, the hold, no wind, the moone