1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Live from vall Hartbeyer and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. It is Tony Katz today. That's what 3 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: the show is, and it is today. I am not 4 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, though, I am Mike. 5 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: Coolidge, KO L I, D G E. 6 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 3: You can find me on the old X at Coolidge 7 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 3: and Tony. I believe we'll be back next week. But 8 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 3: thrilled to be on the air again on the air waves. 9 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 3: Did my own radio show for fifteen years, had Tony 10 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 3: on many times, and I've been on Tony show too 11 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: as a guest, and we go way back. Gosh, I 12 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 3: guess about fifteen years, meeting right in the beginning of 13 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: the Obama administration back in nine twenty ten or thereabouts. 14 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 3: And yeah, I ended my radio show specifically to run 15 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: for Congress in twenty twenty two. 16 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 2: Was not successful. 17 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 3: We thought it was going to be a big old 18 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 3: red wave and it wasn't quite one. And we're trying 19 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 3: to guard against a blue wave from occurring next year. 20 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 3: I'd continue to work behind the scenes for a number 21 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 3: of organizations trying to, you know. 22 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 2: Keep the left away from power. 23 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 3: There is nothing and I mean nothing leftists and Democrats 24 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: love more than power nothing, and they will go through 25 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: anything and do anything. 26 00:01:54,280 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: To get it. And they'll do anything they can to harm, hurt, 27 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: or stop those that disagree with them, I guess from 28 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 2: keeping them from power. If people on the right don't 29 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: generally want power. 30 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: I didn't run for Congress to be powerful or to 31 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 3: have power. I want to go to Congress to maybe 32 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: draft legislation that would perhaps take a little power away 33 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: from the government, perhaps and act some laws and vote 34 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: for some laws that would get the government out of 35 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: the way of our economy. We as conservatives are diametrically 36 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 3: on the opposite side of the statement from that Marxist 37 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 3: communist mayor to be in New York City who said 38 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: in his victory speech. 39 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 2: There is not a plan. 40 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 3: Or there is not a societal ill out there that 41 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: the government can't solve. 42 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: He actually said that. 43 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 3: We believe in the old maxim from Ronald Reagan that 44 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: the I think it's the seven worst words I'm bad 45 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 3: accounting in the English language, seven or eight or nine, 46 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 3: however many it is is I'm from the government and 47 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: I'm here to help. 48 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 2: No, there's another great quote from Ronald Reagan. 49 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 3: The best social program is a job I know, not 50 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: necessarily a government job. We started this show today talking 51 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: about Charlie Kirk, not only because his influence and power, 52 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: not you know, literal power, because he was never he 53 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: never held elected office, he never ran for office. 54 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: He wasn't a politician. He was just a voice. 55 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 3: But man was his voice stronger than anyone's on the 56 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: right of his generation, to be sure, and arguably as 57 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: far as all of the voices on the right over 58 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: the last half century. I would put him in the 59 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 3: same category as far as influence over our movements and 60 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 3: our culture. Really, i'd put him in the same category 61 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 3: as Rush Limbaugh, and I bet you Rushwood to Rush 62 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: had a great story in twenty eighteen, twenty eighteen about 63 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: meeting and talking with Charlie Kirk on a golf course 64 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: and about how impressed he was with him. This quote 65 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 3: and this speech from Charlie. The other reason too, I 66 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: mentioned and we're talking about Charlie Kirk. This is purely 67 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 3: a coincidence. But the last time I filled in for 68 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,559 Speaker 3: Tony on Tony Katz today was September tenth of this year, 69 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: and towards the very end of the show, I got 70 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 3: a word in my ear that from Land and our 71 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 3: producer that Charlie Kirk had been shot. 72 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: And we were not on the air long. 73 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 3: Enough to break the news about his awful death. But 74 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: it was a day that we'll all remember vividly. And 75 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk's words and legacy continues to gain an influence. 76 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 3: And this just came out today, I mean didn't come out. 77 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: It came out this or lass summer, I guess, yeah, 78 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. This is Charlie Kirk at the RNC 79 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: talking about what we're talking about today, which is affordability. 80 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 4: The basic things our parents enjoyed are increasingly out of 81 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 4: reach for gen Z and millennials. You see, the American 82 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 4: dream has become a luxury item for the wealthy elites. 83 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 4: Democrats have given hundreds of billions of dollars to illegals 84 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 4: and foreign nations, while gen Z has to pinch pennies 85 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 4: just so that they can never own a home, never 86 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 4: marry it, and work until they die childless. To all 87 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 4: the gen Zers watching this convention on TikTok right now, 88 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 4: I have a message just for you. You don't have 89 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 4: to stay poor, you don't have to accept being worse 90 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 4: off than your parents. 91 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: That was Charlie Kirk just over a year ago, barely 92 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 2: over a year ago in Milwaukee. I was there. I 93 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 2: was on the floor. 94 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: In Milwaukee at the Republican National Convention, and I'm telling 95 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 3: you what he's talking about. There is going to be 96 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 3: the issue the next year for the midterm elections if 97 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: we are the right aren't able to. 98 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 2: Articulate why not. 99 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 3: Just the leftist viewpoint of insanity and big government and 100 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 3: Marxism and socialism is just insane. 101 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 2: It's just strong. 102 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: It's bad, it's terrible, it is Those are all true, 103 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 3: but we need to be able to articulate why. We 104 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 3: need to explain basic concepts like when you subsidize anything, 105 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: the price will go up. Case in point tuition, if 106 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 3: you tell an eighteen year old kid that the government 107 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 3: is gonna give you a bunch of money and they 108 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 3: will guarantee to pay the university for you to go there. 109 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: You just you know, all the government money. 110 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: Until your retirement age, depending on what cow do you 111 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:48,559 Speaker 3: go to. Because you can't ever get rid of student 112 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 3: loan debt, even if you go bankrupt, you still have. 113 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: To pay it. 114 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: It is locked in stone. But that's the bad part 115 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 3: for the lender. I'm sorry the the person taking out 116 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: the loan, the student. That's a bad part for the student. 117 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 3: The good part the people who make out great is 118 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: the university because they have guaranteed money coming from the 119 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: government no matter what. So what happens to anything when 120 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 3: you have guaranteed money coming in, whether you're whether you 121 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,239 Speaker 3: are a university, whether you are an insurance company, whether 122 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: you are a solar panel, whether you're an electric car manufacturer, 123 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: if you have guaranteed money coming in in a form 124 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 3: of some kind of subsidy from the government. And I 125 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 3: know student loans aren't necessarily subsidies their loans, but still 126 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 3: it's money that the university knows they're getting from the 127 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 3: government guaranteed. What do they do They raise prices because 128 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 3: it's artificial. You have a car manufacturer that makes electric 129 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 3: cars for let's say it costs them, I don't know, 130 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 3: thirty thousand dollars to make a Chevy Vault. 131 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 2: Probably a lot more, I don't know. I'm just pulling 132 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: that number out. 133 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 3: And in the Obama Biden world of political philosophy, why 134 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 3: we need more electric cars even though the battery process 135 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 3: takes tons of energy and you know, burns fossil fuels whatever, 136 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: which isn't necessarily bad, but they think it's bad. They 137 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 3: think it's the worst thing, but they don't talk about that. 138 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 3: They just think, oh, well, once the cars made, it's electric, 139 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: it's not polluting anything at all. It's great, it's perfect. 140 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 3: So it costs thirty thousand dollars to make the vehicle. 141 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: But we can't sell it for thirty thousand dollars because 142 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 3: then we would it would be a wash. We wouldn't be. 143 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: Able to you know, pay our workers or pay our. 144 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: Bills or anything. So we need to obviously charge more 145 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 3: than that. Well, the government comes in and says we're 146 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 3: going to give a consumer fifteen thousand dollars if they 147 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 3: buy an electric vehicle from you, and they say, oh, really, 148 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 3: so they're going to come to me and they're already 149 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 3: going to have fifteen thousand dollars, so all they have. 150 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: To come up with is fifteen thousand. Well, here's the thing. 151 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: We do all this like you know, credit check and 152 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: income check, and we find out what people can afford 153 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 3: when they. 154 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: Walk on our lot. 155 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 3: And if we find out they can afford fifty thousand dollars, hmm, 156 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 3: you know, when we do that whole. Hey, here's what 157 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 3: the payment costs. Forget about the insurance or I'm sorry, 158 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 3: the interest rate for a second. We'll just talk about 159 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 3: how much you're paying per month, and we figure out 160 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 3: that we can weigh up that price. Because they're automatically 161 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 3: getting fifteen thousand dollars, the price of that electric vehicle 162 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 3: is going to go up. The price of health insurance 163 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,599 Speaker 3: is going to go up in January. Why because the 164 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 3: quote unquote Affordable Care Act made care, the care part 165 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 3: of the Affordable Care unaffordable because they infused money into 166 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: a lot more money. They mandated money be paid for 167 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 3: health insurance for these subsidies. So we're these these subsidies 168 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 3: are going to go away in January, and we're going 169 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: to see what the real cost is of health insurance, 170 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 3: which is going to be way higher than it was 171 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 3: even if you adjust for inflation before Obamacare. Why because 172 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: they increase their prices because they know that the consumers 173 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 3: were getting subsidized by the government artificial money, not real money. 174 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 3: I mean, artificially pumping money into what should be the 175 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 3: free market is going to result in higher prices, in unaffordability, 176 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: and we're all going to find that out in January. 177 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: But if those of us on the. 178 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: Right aren't articulating that viewpoint that this is the fault 179 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 3: of Democrat and liberal policies, not the Republican policies. 180 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 2: If we had ars, brothers. 181 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 3: You know, I was on the air every day railing 182 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 3: against Obamacare, predicting that this would happen if they messed 183 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 3: around with healthcare, trying to make the government and put 184 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 3: the government in charge and fuse billions, hundreds of billions 185 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: of dollars, if not trillions of dollars into the healthcare economy. 186 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: It is not going to result in lower prices. It's 187 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 3: going to result in higher prices and higher taxes. And 188 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 3: that's happening in January thanks to the brilliant liberal Democrats 189 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: who if you remember Obamacare, all and only Democrats voted 190 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: for that. No Republicans. That was not a bipartisan thing. 191 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 3: There was not a good discussion on the side. Okay, 192 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: we'll messing around with this. We'll give you guys this, 193 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 3: you know, the good kind of sort of compromised way 194 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 3: that quote unquote good legislation. I mean, I don't you 195 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 3: know Medicare and Medicaid and social securities definitely social Security 196 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 3: definitely has its flaws and problems, but all those things 197 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 3: were passed by both Republicans and Democrats back in the day, 198 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 3: so you can't you can't blame that on I mean, 199 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 3: they're all big government things, and again they're not perfect, 200 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 3: but they were put together by both Republicans and Democrats. 201 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: Obamacare wasn't it is the pipe dream of the left, 202 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 3: and they got and they enacted it thanks to Nixon. 203 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 3: No stalk part to the state. I live in a 204 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 3: rowan Burris guy being a Senator for five minutes being 205 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 3: the final vote on that, But I don't want to. 206 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: Go down that route anyway. 207 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 3: We need to be able to articulate the solutions to 208 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 3: the affordability crisis in healthcare, in housing, in student loan debt, 209 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 3: and grocery prices. Our solutions result in lower prices, not 210 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 3: the leftist Marxist viewpoint. And we have a bunch of 211 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 3: months to get our arguments straight, to get our talking 212 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 3: points down. But we can't just be the criticizers. We 213 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 3: have to actually come up with our own viewpoints and 214 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: solutions and articulate them well. And that's how we will 215 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 3: keep these Marxist communists out of power. In Washington, DC, 216 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,479 Speaker 3: and hopefully in our state houses as well, though. 217 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: Here in Illinois we have a long road to hoe 218 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: to switch that. 219 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: I know Indiana and other states that this fine radio 220 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 3: show broadcasts from are doing way better as far as 221 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 3: the size of government and the size of government bodies 222 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: and the tax situation, way. 223 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: Better than Illinois. 224 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 3: If you're listening to this not in Illinois, trust me, 225 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 3: it's better than Illinois, which is almost exclusively run by 226 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: Democrats in Springfield. 227 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: All right, we are going to take a break. 228 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: We will continue on Tony Katz to say we have 229 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 3: coming up later this hour switching gears talking about illegal 230 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 3: immigration and some of the awful, awful tragedies that have 231 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 3: occurred because of the terrible policies of the left over 232 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 3: the last half decade. Joe Abraham, the father of Katie Abraham, 233 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 3: who lost her life thanks to an illegal alien drunk 234 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: driver in Illinois last year. He's going to join us 235 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 3: coming up later this hour, and we'll get into that 236 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: topic when we come back. This is Tony Katz today. 237 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 3: I am Mike Coolidge filling in for Tony. Stay with us. 238 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 3: We're back on Tony Katz today. I'm Mike Coolidge in 239 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 3: for Tony Coolide is spelled with a CA for a 240 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 3: little stint. Back in twenty twenty three, I helped edit 241 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 3: American Greatness fantastic website. Victor Davis Hansen probably talk about, 242 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: you know, the smart thinkers on the right, the smartest 243 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 3: thinkers on the right for his generation, probably the best 244 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 3: great piece in American Greatness confronting anti Ellis Island immigration. 245 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: Ellis Island built a nation through law and order. Biden's 246 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 3: border chaos dismantled it with lawlessness, division, and the greatest 247 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 3: illegal influx in US history. Between eighteen ninety four and 248 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 3: nineteen fifty four, approximately twelve million immigrants arrived at the 249 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 3: now iconic Ellis Island to enter the United States, or 250 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: nearly two hundred thousand legal entries per year. All were registered, documented, 251 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: and given rudimentary health exams. They arrived as rich and poor, 252 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 3: white and non white, and without exception legally. With the 253 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 3: gradual decline of such great influxes, Ellis Island finally ceased 254 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 3: operating roughly seventy one years ago. Yet Ellis Island's successful 255 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 3: tenure offers a sharp contrast to the failures of our 256 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 3: recent open border catastrophes. Americans will never know how many 257 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 3: immigrants swarmed the southern border between twenty twenty one and 258 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, when Joe Biden and his impeached Homeland 259 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 3: Security Secretary Alejandro Majorcis destroyed federal immigration law as we 260 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 3: once knew it. By design, they allowed between ten and 261 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 3: twelve million foreign nationals to make a mockery of federal 262 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 3: immigration laws by swarming the Southern border. Many crossers grew 263 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 3: violent at any sign of even meek effort by ICE 264 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 3: officers to enforce the law. Border patrol officers were often mocked, threatened, 265 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 3: and assaulted by arriving illegal aliens. Officers were unsure as 266 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 3: to what was worse the occasional violence from illegal immigrants 267 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 3: or retaliation from the Biden administration if they sought to 268 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 3: enforce federal law and block illegal entrance. So the Biden 269 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 3: administration pulled off the near impossible. In a mere four years, 270 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 3: it had invited in almost as many illegal immigrants as 271 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 3: had entered through Ellis Island legally over seven decades. But 272 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 3: unlike past immigrants, we now witness organized violence against ICE officials. 273 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: We see orwellian. 274 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 3: Scenes of mobs burning the American flag, the flag of 275 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 3: the country they demand to stay in, while waving the 276 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 3: flags of the countries they have no desire or intention 277 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 3: of returning to. And some three generations ago, a smaller 278 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: horror but wiser America properly solved its immigration problem at 279 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 3: Ellis Island, welcoming in immigrants orderly and legally with health 280 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 3: and background screenings. 281 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 2: There's more. 282 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 3: I encourage you to read the rest of it at 283 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 3: American Greatness. Victor Davis Hansen confronting Ellis Island Immigration. We're 284 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 3: going to hear from Joe Abraham, father of the late 285 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 3: Katie Abraham, after. 286 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: This on Tony Cats Today. This is Mike Coolidge in 287 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: for Tony. Stay with us. 288 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 3: We are back on Tony Katz today. I am Mike 289 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 3: Coolidge filling in for Tony Coolidge. 290 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: Is spelled with the KA. Find me on x K 291 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 2: L I DGE And we. 292 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 3: Talked before the break about illegal immigration and about how 293 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 3: Ellis Island ushered in for decades legal immigration. Nearly two 294 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 3: hundred thousand per year between eighteen ninety two and nineteen 295 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 3: fifty four, twelve million legal immigrants came in. My ancestors, 296 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 3: my mother's side from Scotland. My father's side was from 297 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 3: Hungary and they both both sides came through Ellis Island 298 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 3: during those years. 299 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 2: And it's part of what made our. 300 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 3: Country, especially in the twentieth and twenty first century, and 301 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 3: the generations that came after, and even those who legally 302 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 3: emigrated to the United States after Ellis Island closed, the 303 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 3: legal immigrants here become part of the melting pot of 304 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 3: the United States. And you know eporunum altogether one well, 305 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 3: that of course has been thrown out the window in 306 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 3: the last couple of years, particularly during the Biden administration, 307 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 3: and it's a tragedy. I should say. It's bad when 308 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 3: bad policy leads to people losing. 309 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: Their jobs or them not be able to. 310 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 3: Afford groceries, but it gets truly evil when bad policies 311 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 3: result in people's debts. And our next guest, I had 312 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 3: the honor of meeting earlier this week in Illinois, where 313 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,239 Speaker 3: I make my home, and he went through something that 314 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 3: none of us should ever have to go through. I'm 315 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 3: going to let him tell the story. Joe Abraham joins 316 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 3: us now from Illinois, where I happen to live as well. Joe, 317 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 3: Welcome on to Tony Katz today with Mike Coolidge. 318 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 5: I might it was a pleasure meeting you the other day. 319 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 3: Yes, tell us first about your daughter, Katie, and then 320 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 3: tell our listeners what exactly happened. 321 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 5: Sure, Katie is my youngest. She's twenty years old. She 322 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 5: was such a spirit. Honestly, she was great sense of humor. 323 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 5: She loved music. She loved the water water polo player. 324 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 5: She did so well at it. 325 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 6: She was going in her third year at Ohio University. 326 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 6: They went down with some friends to University of Illinois, 327 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 6: so Urbana, Illinois, to visit some friends. 328 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 5: At UBUI, and she was killed on the streets of Urbana. 329 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 5: So a suv flowed into the rear of their car 330 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 5: at eighty miles an hour. 331 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 6: A drunk driver turned out to be a drunk illegal 332 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 6: alien driver. So after he struck the car and devastated lives, 333 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 6: five lives, and then obviously the collateral lives that are 334 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 6: part of it that have to live without their children, he. 335 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 5: Didn't render age, he didn't call nine one one. 336 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 6: He didn't stick around to help first responders understand what happened. 337 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 6: He fled, He ran, He ran fast. So within a 338 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 6: couple of days he went from Urbana to Chicago, and 339 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 6: Chicago they caught them. I believe it was Milford, Texas, 340 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 6: north of north of the Mexico border. And that's sort 341 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 6: of it, you know, the tragedy of it. To me, obviously, 342 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 6: if Katie would have utterly rejected the way she died 343 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 6: as compassionate and loving of a woman she was, to 344 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 6: have Illinois with these extreme, just utterly thoughtless and misguided 345 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 6: sanctuary policies, it's really devastating. It just sort of puts 346 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 6: salt in that wound, you know, because it was preventable. 347 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the worst part about it is that it 348 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 3: was preventable. Had Illinois been a law or been a 349 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 3: state that enforced the laws of our country that you 350 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 3: must come to the United States and be here legally, 351 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 3: this monster wouldn't have even been here to begin with. 352 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 3: And I don't even know what if you want to 353 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 3: say his name, I have it here in front of me, but. 354 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 5: I'll say his name. 355 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,959 Speaker 6: I'll say his name absolutely, Julio Cucko Bowl, who was 356 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 6: in Illinois using Julio using an alias Juan Sore as 357 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 6: a Mexican national, but he was actually Julio Cuco Bowl, 358 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 6: a Guatemala national Now the FEDS, Federal Enforcement knew he 359 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 6: was the first day. So for example, Mike, if you 360 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 6: think about this, and I lose sleep every night because 361 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 6: of these kind of things, but if you think about it, 362 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 6: here's a guy who is using an alias, who's already 363 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 6: been deported. The FEDS knew exactly who who he was, 364 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 6: so illinoy and their extreme policies said, you know what 365 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 6: we're gonna at night, you know, you know, in the dark. 366 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 5: Room, they made a decision. 367 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 6: They kicked the side door open of Illinois and they 368 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 6: just flooded the state. 369 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 5: And I'm sorry, the state is so mismanaged. 370 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 6: Citizens are leaving and the only way to keep your 371 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 6: apportionment in Congress is to bring in anybody and everybody 372 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 6: and unvetted, unaudited, unchecked. 373 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 5: So what they did was just bring it. They didn't 374 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 5: know who. 375 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 6: They were, where they were going, how they were going 376 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 6: to survive, how were they living right, because obviously Hulua 377 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 6: Kuko bowl he had no job, he had bought a car, 378 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 6: he was paying for insurance in an illegal, fraudulent way. 379 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 5: He was living day to day. 380 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 6: He was going out and about and I'm going to 381 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 6: go on a limb here Mike and say, I doubt 382 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 6: very much. 383 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,479 Speaker 5: This was his first foray into drunk driving. That's what 384 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 5: I'm going to say there. 385 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 6: So instead of having a front end process that checks 386 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 6: and does some type of minimal background, these. 387 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 5: Guys just flooded him. So in their equation, Mike, I got. 388 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 6: To believe in their equation, in their calculus, they had 389 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 6: deaths like Katie. 390 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 5: Built into their numbers as they were letting people flood in. 391 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: And after you buried your daughter, after. 392 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 3: You grieved for her, and I know you'll you'll grieve 393 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 3: for her for the rest of your life, you decided 394 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 3: that you didn't want her death to be in vain. Uh, 395 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 3: tell us what you what you've done since, since you've 396 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 3: been through what you've been through. 397 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 6: Sure, So, initially we thought we would be able to 398 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 6: speak to people at Illinois. So Illinois, if no one 399 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 6: knows Illinoi's a supermajority. 400 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 5: Democratic run states. 401 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 6: So so we were invited to Congress. I thought we 402 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 6: would have you know, you know, Governor Pritzker was there 403 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 6: with Governor Watson Hokel. They were going to testify on 404 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 6: sanctuary cities. We were invited to hear the testimony. I 405 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 6: was excited to hear from the Democrats who. 406 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 5: Run the state and put these extreme policies, like what 407 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 5: was the problem? Didn't we have vetting? 408 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 6: What did you just slip through the cracks? Someone please 409 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 6: talk to me. I lost the daughter. I want to understand. 410 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 6: Was it just a mistake? How you got fixing it? 411 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 5: Are you working on it? And I got nothing but 412 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 5: silence was deafening. From JB. 413 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 6: Pritzker to my congresswoman Janschaikowski, to every state Democrat, not 414 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 6: one of them talk to me. 415 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 5: And this is back in June. 416 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 6: And you know, meanwhile, the White House brought us over 417 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 6: and other people were talking to us, but no one 418 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 6: from Illinois. So that's why I started saying, you know what, 419 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 6: I'm speaking out. This is ridiculous, this is unacceptable. These 420 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 6: people are uncaring. They are governed. I'm sorry, they don't 421 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 6: even govern. They rule our rulers with arrogance. 422 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 5: And personal ambition. That's all they care about. There's no 423 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 5: humility in what they're doing in service. 424 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 6: There's no service at all. And they're thoughtless in how 425 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,239 Speaker 6: they do these. As a matter of fact, it's more 426 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 6: than thoughtless. This is part of their calculus. 427 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 5: They knew citizens were going to die, and they let 428 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 5: that happen. So I've started speaking out. 429 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 6: And then when DHS called me about this midway blitz, 430 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 6: I just didn't want to use Katie's name. So I 431 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 6: sat down with everybody I could, from Director Lions on 432 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 6: down to support staff on DHS and Ice and Mike. 433 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 5: I didn't see one. 434 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 6: Note, not anyone goose stepping around at their offices. They 435 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 6: were so professional, they were so dedicated, they were good people. 436 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 6: I wish some of these folks out there making trouble 437 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 6: chaos would just sit down with these guys and see. 438 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 5: What they're all about. 439 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 6: But really, what it comes down to, Mike, in my 440 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 6: heart is the folks like JB. Pittsgourd and the folks 441 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 6: running Illinois, they want this chaos in the streets. 442 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 5: They need this chaos in the streets. This city and 443 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 5: this state is so mismanaged. 444 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 6: This is the perfect deflection for these guys. They wind 445 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 6: up saying, oh, look at Ice, it's Gestapo and Nazis, 446 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 6: and don't look their over here, because you got to 447 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 6: look over there. And all you gotta do is just 448 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 6: work with some federal officers. 449 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 5: At a minimum, in the Illinois. 450 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 6: It's contrast, he's prohibited. It's so beyond extreme. 451 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 5: When I learned more, Mike, I was just floored. How 452 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 5: could Illinois citizens want this? 453 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 2: But you know it's a. 454 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 5: Supermatority state, so I don't even know how you can 455 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 5: stop it. 456 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: Mike, Yeah, I mean you. 457 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 3: I know this show is broadcast all over the Midwest, 458 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 3: but a lot of listeners are in Indiana, and a 459 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 3: lot of listeners are probably former Illinoisans who were so 460 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 3: fed up with the insane policies of people like JB. 461 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 3: Pritzker and the super majority Democrats in Springfield, and they're 462 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 3: making much better lives of themselves in Indiana and in 463 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 3: other states throughout the Midwest. Right now, But before we 464 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 3: wrap up, I know you've talked with DHS. I know 465 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 3: you've not just talk with them, I mean you've helped 466 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 3: them come up with Operation Midway Blitz. Have you you 467 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 3: been in communication with the White House as well? 468 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: Is that right? 469 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 5: In June? 470 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 6: We were so the Trump administration administration brought us to 471 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 6: the White House. They Donald Trump actually told our story 472 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 6: and this is part of the big beautiful bill, and 473 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 6: a lot of provisions within that bill really bolstered border 474 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 6: security and ice and DHS, and these were things that 475 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 6: I thought, at least from our perspective, we're we were 476 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 6: now I had nothing from Illinois. 477 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 5: They were going to do nothing. Actually they triple quadruple 478 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 5: down on what they were already doing. So I agreed. 479 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 6: I said, yeah, if this is going to secure the border, 480 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 6: it's going to help us clear out some or at 481 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 6: least vet some of the folks that shouldn't be here. Look, 482 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 6: we're a family of immigrants too. 483 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 5: My mom and dad immigrated. We got you know, we 484 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 5: have nothing but good feelings about that. But here's the 485 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 5: other thing. You create this policy and you talk about compassion, 486 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 5: how he's going to help immigration. 487 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 6: What your policies have done. The effect of your policies 488 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 6: have turned American sour to immigration. You don't even realize that. 489 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 6: But it's not about immigration. This is about certain power. 490 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 6: This is about posturing against Donald Trump. But when I 491 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 6: was at the White House, Donald Trump. 492 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 5: Was absolutely the opposite of what you hear on the news. 493 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 6: He was a stand up guy. He shook my hand, 494 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 6: he looked me in the eye. He said, it's been 495 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 6: a mess and we're going to clean it up. And 496 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 6: he's dedicated to do that. For k and Katie's honor, 497 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 6: and a lot of these really good things on and 498 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 6: off the camera. So look, you tell me, contrasts that 499 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 6: with my Illinois leader and and folks here are compared 500 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 6: to what was going on in Washington, DC. 501 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 5: Night and day. They they if they. 502 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 6: Saw me walking on one side of the street, they 503 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 6: would quickly go across the street and walk away. It's 504 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 6: it's amazing, amazing the black and white difference between these 505 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 6: Illinois and and the folks that they call the authoritarian 506 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 6: in the White House. He certainly didn't appear. 507 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 5: Like that to me. It appears like that in Illinois. 508 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 5: To me, though, I gotta be honest with you. Yeah, 509 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 5: my wife's from my wife from Indiana, and. 510 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 6: Over the last ten years, I could see all the 511 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 6: farm land being turned into developments. And so it's it's 512 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 6: clear what's happening. There's no question about that. And that's 513 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 6: why they need anybody to come in here. And they 514 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 6: entite them, and they incentivize them, they fund them, they 515 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 6: make them cross this awful journey from who knows where 516 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 6: Cartel's making billions of dollars is now moving people around. 517 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 5: At least what the what I heard. 518 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 6: In Washington, d c and sheruffs and and and and 519 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 6: politicians are the cartels are making huge sums of money 520 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 6: thanks to our government. 521 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's insane, and I'm thankful that the Trump 522 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 3: administration is doing something about it. 523 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 6: Uh. 524 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 3: Horrible, horrible, horrible politicians like Jamie Pritsker and his ilk 525 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 3: are are doing the opposite. And again, we're just so 526 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 3: sorry that you had to go through what you had 527 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 3: to go through with losing your your precious daughter, Katie, 528 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 3: but it sounds like you are not letting her her 529 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 3: death be in vain. And I and I salute you, 530 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 3: and I honor you or I and I just am 531 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 3: so thankful for everything you're doing. And you're you are 532 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 3: literally saving lives. 533 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 2: Uh. 534 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 3: In the mission you're on, Joe, and thanks so much 535 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 3: for coming on to Tony Katz today. 536 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you so much. No one should ever have 537 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 6: to do that. And if we can, Katie and I 538 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 6: can help any parent not goes through this. 539 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 5: We're all in. Thanks you so much. 540 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: We'll be right back. 541 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 3: It is the final countdown for the final segment for 542 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: the final show of the week on Tony Katz Today. 543 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 2: Tony, I believe we'll be back on Monday. 544 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 3: I continue to talk into this microphone for at least 545 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 3: a couple more minutes here on this Friday. I'm Mike Coolidge, 546 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 3: and I'm glad I give out my ex handle because 547 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 3: a lot of you have contacted me during the show 548 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 3: on X. My ex handle's real simple. It's Coolidge. 549 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 2: That's it spelled a K got a spell with a 550 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 2: K K L I DG E. That's it. 551 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 3: Speaking of X, Jazz, Meine Crockett has delusions of grandeur. 552 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 3: She is a congresswoman out of Texas in Houston, and 553 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 3: she thinks she's going to run for Senate there and 554 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 3: I hope she does. She's probably the most unappealing Democrat. Now, 555 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 3: I would if I were to ranked the most unappealing 556 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 3: sitting Democrat congressman, probably at the top would be Eric Swallwell, 557 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 3: and then surely after that would be Sean cast and 558 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 3: he's a congressman in my state Illinois, just really really bad. 559 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 3: And the third worst, I think would be Jasmine Crockett. 560 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 3: There's a list of things here just to show you, 561 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 3: like how much democrats love power. A thing she's spent 562 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 3: money on through her campaign. It's money that people gave 563 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 3: her to you know, run for office and be a 564 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 3: good congresswoman. Four and seventy five dollars on the Ritz Carlton, 565 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 3: twenty three hundred dollars on the Luxury Collection, fifty three 566 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 3: to twenty six on the West Hollywood Edition. I don't 567 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 3: even know what these things are. Eleven hundred and seventy 568 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 3: three on the Times Square edition to one thousand dollars 569 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 3: plus at the Cosmopolitan and Ari Resort in Las Vegas. 570 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 3: Are these hotels? I think I know the Cosmopolitan is. 571 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 3: I don't know what the West Hollywood and Times Square dish. Yeah, 572 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 3: I guess our hotels. Twenty seven hundred on the Edgar 573 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 3: town In thirty one hundred and sixty on the Coco, 574 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 3: twenty seven to twenty eight on transportation U Limos Service, 575 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 3: twenty three to ten on DCA car LLC. Fifty thousand 576 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 3: dollars on security Jazz, Me and Crockett loving the trappings 577 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 3: of being a congressman. 578 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 2: Ain't it nice? It's good to be It's good to be. 579 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 3: A congressman, isn't it? This has been Tony Katz today. 580 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 3: I am Mike Coolijen for Tony. Have a wonderful weekend.