1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: So our next guest says, redistricting is going to cause 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of chaos with the elections, but he's for 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: it anyway. Let's get to the bottom of it. Kenell 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: Casey show. I'm Rob Casey's out today. Ethan's in for Casey. 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Our old pale Knox County clerk. David Shelton our guest. 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: Now he is running for Secretary of State on the 7 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: Republican side. David Shelton, Hello, good morning, Rob. How are 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: you today? All right, So this is very interesting to 9 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: me because look, and I've said you're runn against Diego 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: Morales at the convention next June. All members of decent 11 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: and good society should be cheerleading for you, because any 12 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: person that can get us rid of Diego Morales were 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: on board. But I have several questions because you had 14 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: sent me you are the Knox County Clerk, correct, which 15 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: means you administer elections for a living. Yes, I do 16 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: you actually know how to do the job of Secretary 17 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: of State? 18 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: That's the illusion I'm trying to maintain. 19 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: Very good. Okay, So you'd messaged me, and let's start 20 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: with this. You had said, if the Republicans indeed do 21 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: go forward with redistricting, it's going to cause a lot 22 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: of chaos, especially at this late date. 23 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: Tell us about that, all right, So the first deadline 24 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: we have to be aware of is this as early 25 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: as December first, we can start accepting absentee applications from 26 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: voters all around the state for a primary. Yeah, just 27 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: say raw in December first. So that's a date. So 28 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: we're gonna have to hold those and they may have 29 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: to be amended or refiled if they change congressional districts. 30 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: That's one concern there. Another concern I have is the 31 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: Democrat precinct committeemen are on the ballot next year. They 32 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: have to live in the precinct they're running for, So 33 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: any changes involved in congressional redistricting will probably involve a 34 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: split precinct here and there. We don't know the extent 35 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: how many. It may only be a half dozen counties 36 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: they'll have split precincts, But new precincts will have to 37 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: be established before candidates can sign up to run for 38 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: a Democrat precinct committeement. Spot that deadline right now. You 39 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: can start signing up as early as January seventh. 40 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So are those sort of the two main things, 41 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: because I look at this and say, well, how would 42 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: I even know if I want to run. I don't 43 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: know what the district is going to be until I 44 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: guess brawn has said November, right, We're almost to November. Anyway, 45 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: then you got a fundraise you got I mean that 46 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: would seem to cause mass havoc on if you even 47 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: want to. 48 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 2: Run for this office. Well, yes, and no. The local 49 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: district's county. State wise, those districts are not changing whatsoever. 50 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: It's only a congressional district. And the way the laws are, 51 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: you don't have to live in your district to run 52 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: for that office, which makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever. 53 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: Now, what's the rule you have to live in it 54 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: when you represent it? Yes, to run for it, right, 55 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: you'll have. 56 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: To move in there by November of twenty six. 57 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: So somebody could be consulting a Markddle or another trained 58 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: real estate professional to get there to get their information. 59 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 2: Absolutely, or they just simply get an apartment. 60 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: You know. 61 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: I think you guys talked about it on State House 62 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: happenings or recently. It's where you intend, where you intend 63 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: to lay your head into, which is again kind of ridiculous. 64 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, David Shelton's our guest. He's the Knox County clerk. 65 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: So do you think a lot of these issues can 66 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: be rectified in time? Because again, let's say he's the 67 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: government's not the most effen when you give it years 68 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: to get things together. We're talking a matter of months here. 69 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: It seems that we are setting up for a lot 70 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: of uncertainty and chaos in the election system if they 71 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: go forward, it. 72 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 2: Could be you know, I have my concerns about the 73 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: actual movement of the voters because when you create the 74 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: split precincts, it's hard to catch every voter to move them. 75 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: You have to do what's known as manual address range 76 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 2: assignments to move the voters to the correct precincts. The 77 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: election division has a staff of ten people, five Republicans, 78 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: five Democrats. There's really only two people in that office 79 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: to help with that process of moving the voters make 80 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: sure it's completed correctly. A lot of documentation is involved 81 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: with that. Maps have to be created of the new precincts. Now, 82 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: it's going to be difficult, as an impossible No, I'm 83 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: a firm believer every problem has a solution. We will 84 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: come together. It's just the unknown that bothers me. I 85 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: don't like not knowing what's going on when it comes 86 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: to our elections. I want to be able to help 87 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: where I can, and you know, rally whatever resources is 88 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: necessary to make sure the voters are moved, to eliminate 89 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: as much confusion as possible for the voters. 90 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: David Shelton's our guest. He's the Knox County Clerk. He's 91 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: also running for Secretary of State on the Republican side 92 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: against Diego Morales's June at the convention. I want to 93 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,119 Speaker 1: get through that in a second. But first, so there's 94 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: been some confusion because you are mister election competency, and 95 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: there's been some confusion. Do you support redistricting given some 96 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: of the things and problems that you have laid out. 97 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: I support it, but I have a certain, you know, 98 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 2: level of concern. I feel like our maps are really 99 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: good here in Indiana right now. The legislators did a 100 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: wonderful job with the maps in twenty twenty one. But 101 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: it's not an Indiana issue. It's a national issue. And 102 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: I'll go into my crazy conspiracy theory on that. You know, 103 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: during the Biden administration, we saw fifteen twenty million non 104 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: citizens illegal aliens come into our country. That's equal to 105 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: twenty to thirty congressional seats worth of people right there. 106 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 2: These people will be counted on in the census in 107 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: twenty thirty as of right now, we need to take 108 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: steps now to make sure that they are counted, but 109 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: not counted towards congressional reapportionment, because if we lose twenty 110 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 2: five thirty seats, we can't overcome that. If that happens, 111 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: it's only a matter of time before DC Puerto Rico 112 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: becomes states, which means four new Democrat senators in there 113 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: go a step further. They have that kind of control, 114 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 2: they're going to expand the Supreme Court, they're going to 115 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 2: pack it, they're going to maybe even give non citizens 116 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: the right to vote. So, in my mind, this is 117 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: an in game situation for Republicans. You know, the Democrats 118 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: have been playing this game for decades, and we as Republicans, 119 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: have always just rolled over and taken it. Now's the 120 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 2: time to fight back. Now's the time to play by 121 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: the same rules they're playing by. 122 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: All right, So this is where people get a little 123 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 1: upset with politicians because Adam Ran, friend of our program Importinville, Politico, 124 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: did an interview with you in September. I think it 125 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: was that right. 126 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: It was an informal, spontaneous interview, was nothing scheduled. I 127 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 2: was at an event. 128 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: Sure these are your words, though, right, it's like somebody 129 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: held a gun to your head or not taken. 130 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: Hostiles are some of my words? 131 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 132 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: Okay, So quote in my opinion, to redistrict now would 133 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: cause more harm than good, at least with public perception 134 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: at the very least. How does that change what has 135 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 1: changed for you in a month. I mean that seems 136 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: pretty definitive. And look, I wholeheartedly agreed with those those assessments. 137 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: So I think this goes a show that I don't 138 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: operate in an echo chamber. I have an opinion, but 139 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 2: I can see the other side's opinion as well on 140 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 2: things there. You know, for purely selfish reasons, I'm concerned 141 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: about redistricting because I'm going to be on the ballot 142 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 2: next year. You know, are the Denver has going to 143 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: be able to rally their troops. Is this going to 144 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 2: be a get out to vote vehicle for them? Is 145 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: this going to be their their major talking point? You know, 146 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: we won't know until it happens. 147 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: So, I mean, I guess that's what people are saying, 148 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: is does what you said a month ago? Is that 149 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: null and void? I mean, that's a pretty definitive statement, right, 150 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: that would call cause more harm than good. It seems 151 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: like near sale people would say this. It seems like 152 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: you're sort of going with where you think, I mean, 153 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: you got to run with the delegates, right, that's the 154 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: hardcore people and that Hey, you're kind of just going 155 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: with where the where you think maybe the delegates are 156 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: versus from an election integrity standpoint, I think you made 157 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: the correct statement. 158 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: Right well, I mean, you know, the statement is what 159 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: I said, but the question wasn't even related In that 160 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: reporting there, I was asked do I think it's going 161 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: to happen? And I said, I don't know at this time. 162 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 2: You know, historically, we as Hoosiers, we as Republicans, we 163 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: don't like being told what to do. I mean, you 164 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: go back to the last couple of conventions. You know, 165 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, the so called establishment was for Holly Sullivan. 166 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: We were told to vote for her. That didn't happen. 167 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: You go back last year to the state convention for 168 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: Lieutenant governor's race. You know, you had President Trump endorsed 169 00:07:54,800 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: Julie Maguire, but the delegates rejected that endorsement and their 170 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: own way. So you know, we have a historical track 171 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: record of not doing what we're told. And my quoted 172 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: statement was a continuation along those lines. 173 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: David Shelton's our guest. He's running for Secretary of State 174 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: on the Republican side, we're talking about redistricting. How does 175 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: two more Jefferson Shreeves make anybody's life better? And how 176 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: do you square with being an election integrity guy and saying, hey, 177 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: the maps are really good and your job is to 178 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: enforce free and fair elections. But then going, well, some 179 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: Democrats somewhere else done it might benefit them, so we 180 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: should probably make our maps more unfair. How do you 181 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: kind of those two things? I think sort of. Maybe 182 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: they're two separate questions, but pair them together if you cant? 183 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 2: All right, well, the first one, you know you're comparing 184 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: to one of our current congressmen. But I would counter, 185 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 2: how can we survive with two more aocs or two 186 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: more Hakeem Jeffries around the nation? You know, we or 187 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: even here we need to do what we can to 188 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 2: represent the people, and I feel like this would be 189 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: a fair way of representing the people. You know, people 190 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 2: are going to be yelling Jerry Mandarin. Well they've been 191 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: yelling for years, even though you know maps look good now. 192 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 2: But you know ninety percent of local county elected officials 193 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: are Republicans. So the argument of Jerry Mandarin doesn't hold 194 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: water with me at all now. 195 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: So I mean, why don't we just go to whoever 196 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: wins the presidential election of state gets all the delegates. 197 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: I mean, if that's what we're doing, because clearly Indiana 198 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: is not a ninety ten state, it's not one hundred 199 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: percent Republican. It's sixty forty seventy eight percent of the 200 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: congressional seats currently go to Republicans. I mean, where does 201 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: it end? 202 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: Kind of a confusing question there. 203 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: Well, I'm no, I mean that's your you're you're advocating 204 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: to as the chief Elections officer to change the maps. Yeah, 205 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: the question is where does this end? Because they keep hearing, well, 206 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: so and so did such and such, and so and 207 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: so did such and such, and like, I just feel 208 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: like we're throwing all sense of fairness and equity out 209 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: the window. And it really seems like because some guy 210 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. Is screaming at us to do 211 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: it well. 212 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 2: Now and then when I'm in office, I won't be 213 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: making these decisions. I'm left to pick up the pieces 214 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: and make it work. You know, I'll be an administrator. 215 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: I'm not a legislator. I don't want that job. But 216 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 2: you know, your concerns are valid. I do understand them. 217 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm gonna stick with what I said earlier. Overall, 218 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: this is, you know, a national issue, not an Indiana issue. 219 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: All right, Hey, before we let you go. Now, you 220 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: know me David, and I like you, and I think 221 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: you would be very qualified for this position, far more 222 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: than the guy you're running against. But I'm not going 223 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: to say it on the radio and not say when 224 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: you're standing right in front of me, you got to 225 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: be tough on Morales. I feel like we're like, I 226 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: feel like you're tough on bo Bie than you were 227 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: Morales and that's the guy you're running against. Like do 228 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: people in the rest of the state are Look, my 229 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: concern is this the people in our twenty five counties 230 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: here us are going to know exactly who Diego, morales 231 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: Is and all this stuff he's done, and then you're 232 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: going to get to Fort Wayne and region and places 233 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: you can't hear us, and people are gonna go, oh, 234 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: he's great. He hands me the plate of the Lincoln Days. 235 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: What a nice guy. You go across the state. Is 236 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: that a valid concern? No, because I am all around 237 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: the state. I am having conversations in Lake County and 238 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: Clark County everywhere else. 239 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 2: They're aware of the situations I have people. I can't 240 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: go to a single event without somebody asking me if 241 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: I'm planning on going to Indy. I don't go to 242 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 2: a single event where people are asking me if I 243 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: have a brother in law looking for a job. That 244 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: happens every every day. I also have people say, hey, 245 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: you need to keep on doing what you're doing people. 246 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 2: Some people are tired of the negativity. I just can't 247 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 2: start lobbing fire bombs everywhere I go, because I have tried. 248 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: It's kind of fun. 249 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of fun. You'd feel much better about yourself, 250 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 2: But you have some doors close to you. You get 251 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 2: disinvited to Lincoln Day dinners and such like that. So 252 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: I am trying to be boring. I am trying to 253 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: be that generic R so I can get into office, 254 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 2: find out what the hell actually happened, expose that if necessary, 255 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 2: and just do the job. The campaign. My campaign is 256 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: even bigger than me because it's about building relationships. You know, 257 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 2: I'm identifying issues. I'm meeting with legislators. I'm getting them 258 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 2: to agree to carry bills to improve our election processes 259 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 2: right now. So even if I am unsuccessful next June, 260 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 2: I've made successes in improving our election process. And that's 261 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 2: the key, because the office is bigger than the person. 262 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:30,599 Speaker 1: David Shelton. If you want to learn more about you, 263 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: how can they find you? 264 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: Sheltonfoindiana dot com. Also follow me on social media. Facebook 265 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: is my most well used medium. I do have a 266 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: x account as well, but not as active there. 267 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: It's Kittlecay Show ninety three WIBC. So the shutdown remains 268 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 1: in full effect and the talking heads we're all over 269 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: the media this weekend bloviating to their highest capacity. We'll 270 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: play a couple of clips here. It's in the Casey Show. 271 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm Rob Casey's out today, actually she's well, she's in today. 272 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: She'll be doing the afternoon show along with Jim Ethan 273 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: Hatcher from Saturday Night on the Circle in for casey. Okay, 274 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: So first clip. So Trump came out over the weekend 275 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: I guess this was Friday, and said, uh, change, your 276 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: mom will pay the troops? And is he paying for 277 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: them with tariff money? Well that's a great point, right 278 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: because he's already now allocated the tariff money what the 279 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: two wick to women and infant children? Yeah, and the farmers. 280 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: You know that money was supposed to go to us. 281 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: Well it's gonna be split three ways now. So now 282 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: he's decided he's somehow going to pay the truth is 283 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: going to us. If you happen to be a troop 284 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: or a farmer or a woman with an infant child, 285 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: you know, then that's us. Well, and I think it's 286 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: you need to clarify. I'm not against the troops getting 287 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: paid in any shape, form or fashion, but this just 288 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: all seems very willy nilly. We make it up as 289 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: we go along, We make up about whatever we feel 290 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: in the moment. We change your minds in an instant 291 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: and now a bunch of people and this is a 292 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: crazy position to be and Ethan are actually pushing back 293 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: some members of Congress on whether he can actually pay 294 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: the troops. Well, because they don't want the Trump administration 295 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: to look at it. Well, this is the okay, so 296 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: listen to this. So Jim Hines is this guy's name. 297 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: He's a Democrat rep from the state of Connecticut, and 298 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: he appears pretty pissed off that the troop might actually 299 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: get paid. 300 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 4: To this, well, the White House seems to be trying 301 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 4: to take that issue off the table. The President post 302 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 4: and social media that they're going to repurpose fund somehow 303 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 4: to pay the military at least for this pay cycle. 304 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 4: Is that sustainable? Is that legal? 305 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: Well? Probably not. 306 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 5: Again, we just had a little conversation about the White 307 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 5: House is understanding of the United States law, which is 308 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 5: which is which is pretty tentative to say the best 309 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 5: the Speaker of the House, because I think to pay 310 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 5: the military during a shutdown would require legislation. The Speaker 311 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 5: of the House has taken that off the table. So, 312 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 5: I mean, is Donald Trump going to say a bunch 313 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 5: of stuff. Yes, he's going to stay a bunch of stuff. 314 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 5: But I don't see anything moving. The House is, as 315 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 5: Senator Murphy pointed out, the House is on vacation. So no, 316 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 5: I don't think that that's very likely. 317 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: Imagine being the guy who's going to file the lawsuit 318 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: over the troops getting paid. Yeah, the Democrats will do it. Now, 319 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: Democrats are wanting to stand on procedure. I love that. 320 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: The irony is thick. I have no doubt that there 321 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: would be a Democrat there's the one at least probably 322 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: pondering it. Whether they actually go through it that or not, 323 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, but it does sort of reveal how 324 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: stupid this whole thing is, where they're just making it 325 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: up as they go along that you know, ultimately it 326 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: might be even better if they do put this to 327 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: a vote, because I would love for the Democrats to 328 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: officially put their name behind not paying the troops. Let's 329 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: do it, call a vote. Let's okay, that's fine. Yeah, 330 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: well we'll call a vote. Let's do it then. Okay, 331 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: so it gets better. So Chris Murphy, he is a 332 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: Democrat senator. Is he also from Connecticut? I think? Is 333 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: that right? What was his name, Chris Murphy? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 334 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: so these are both Connecticut people, which is just great. 335 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: He famously came out years ago. Twenty thirteen was when 336 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: the Republicans shut the government down over stuff. There were 337 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: other things, but much of it was related to Obamacare. 338 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: And he came out saying, you can't shut the government 339 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: down over healthcare. You got to leave the government open. 340 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: So he gets asked saying, wait a second, you guys 341 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: are setting the government down now over healthcare when you 342 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: said this years ago, and listen to the boy. This 343 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: guy is probably very dizzy after this answer. 344 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 4: You have been critical in the past of the tactic 345 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 4: of choosing to shut down the government. You were in 346 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 4: twenty eighteen, You were back in twenty thirteen when it 347 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 4: was a discussion over healthcare. This is what you said 348 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 4: in twenty eighteen. 349 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 6: The future of the American healthcare system was a legitimate 350 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 6: public policy issue, as is the security of our borders. 351 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 6: But we shouldn't be having the discussion amidst a government 352 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 6: shutdound trying to use our nation security and all of 353 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 6: these federal workers in the work that they. 354 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: Do as hostages. 355 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 4: Aren't you doing today exactly what you were criticizing them? 356 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,479 Speaker 6: No, that was a fight over sort of the long 357 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 6: term structure of the American healthcare system. 358 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: This is an emergency. 359 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 3: You know. 360 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: They did the same thing on CNN And this was 361 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: a clip that I played on my award winning show 362 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: Saturday Night on the Circle, which you can hear seven 363 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: to nine every Saturday Night, where they confronted Chuck Schumer 364 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: with his own statements about keeping the government open, about 365 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: the importance of not shutting down the government. And they're 366 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: forcing these people to run against their own boards. None 367 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: of these politicians meet it. They don't have a principled 368 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: bone in their body. And it's hilarious just watch them 369 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: get caught in the trap of their own words. All right, 370 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: one more clip here before we move off of this 371 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: to I just don't think this is that interesting to 372 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: that people, to most people. Now, I understand there are 373 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: people are being affected, people being laid off, furload whatever. 374 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to diminish that and how that's impacting 375 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: those people's lives. I'm not saying no one is being 376 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: impacted by this, but I just think collectively, into of 377 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: a country of three hundred and forty million people, there's 378 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: just not enough happening where people are going. This has 379 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: piqued my interest because it really isn't affecting them. Yeah, 380 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: if you're outside the universe of the federal government, then 381 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: minimal impact on your daily life. The Speaker of the House, 382 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: Mike Johnson, he made the rounds over the weekend. He 383 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: had this to say about keeping the government open and 384 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: paying the troops. 385 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 7: We have voted eight times to pay the troops, pay 386 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 7: tsa agents, border patrol agency, you know, everybody serving in 387 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 7: the federal government, and to make sure these services are 388 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 7: provided for veterans and the elderly disabled who need them 389 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 7: so much. Eight times now Democrats in Congress have voted 390 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:36,479 Speaker 7: to close the government. 391 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: We're on day ten. 392 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 7: It's real pain for real people, and they seem not 393 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 7: to care. 394 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: This is where we're at in our country, where Republicans 395 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: are now fine with Biden's spending levels and the Democrats 396 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: say biden spending levels are not enough. Everything's flip flopped. 397 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: There is a limited time opportunity, rob though, for us 398 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: to make some profit from this federal government shutdown. I'm 399 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: not sure if you saw the reporting from Jacob Stewart 400 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: on the Indie Star. The Federal Trade Commission is down 401 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: and they are not accepting reports on fraud in your stock. 402 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: In your stock trade so we can engage in some 403 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: insider trading, just like Shrieve or Nancy Pelosi and get 404 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: rich off this for a limited time opportunity. While the 405 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: government has shut down, the FTC is not taking reports, 406 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: So insider trade just go right on ahead with it. 407 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: You too can live like a congressman. All right, when 408 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: did we come back? Fascinating report this morning in the 409 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: Indie Star, Tony Cook writing a big xpos on Joe 410 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: hawk Set, Thomas Carl Cook and some of the shenanigans 411 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: that were allegedly going on, especially related to those two 412 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: in their administration. That this revealed not surprising, but a 413 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: lot of details about what is alleged to have happened, 414 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: especially involving relationships with people who were decision makers. We'll 415 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: talk about that next. Kennel and Casey Show ninety three WIBC. 416 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: So a fascinating piece in the Indie Star today about 417 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: allegations of more potential corruption in the hog Set administration. 418 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: So this was actually a joint piece. Tony Cook from 419 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: the Indie Star, along with Peter Blanchard and Emily Hopkins 420 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: from Mere Indy worked on this piece together. You can 421 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: read it now. It's up at Indy at the Indie Star. 422 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: Could we call it an expose? 423 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 424 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: I think I think you would. And look, the Star 425 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: and Mere Indy have done a great job of digging 426 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: into the hog Set administration. Now we don't know where 427 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: he was during the riots, but as it relates to 428 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: Thomas Carl Cook and and the hog Set administration's dealings 429 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: with him, and those two together, Thomas Carl Cook former 430 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: deputy mayor under joehawk Sett, also the chief of chief 431 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: of staff, I believe it at one point. So this 432 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: deals with Thomas Carl Cook former I believe he was 433 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: the deputy mayor and he was also the chief of 434 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: starf for Joe Hogshead his dealings. Primarily, it's a large article, 435 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: but it deals the meat of it is his alleged 436 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: relationship with a woman by the name of Scarlett Andrews 437 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: who was in charge of the City of Indianapolis's Department 438 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: of Metropolitan Development and then she later went on to 439 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: become the Deputy Mayor of Economic Development from the years 440 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 1: twenty twenty to twenty twenty three. And the amount of 441 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: money that got approved taxpayer dollars and incentives that got 442 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: approved after Thomas Carl Cook left the hog Seat administration. 443 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: So he was a dumpster fire. He Thomas Carl Cook. 444 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: He also Joe Hogshead, but in this case, Thomas Carl 445 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: Cook was a personal dumpster fire that has played out 446 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: in terms of the allegations of inappropriate contact with women's subordinates, 447 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: et cetera, and was basically, if you read the tea 448 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: leaves voluntold you're gonna leave and ends up with a 449 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: very cushy job at a major law firm in the 450 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: city of Indianapolis. And after he leaves the hog Set administration, 451 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: according to reporting from Indie Star and Mere Indy, he 452 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: starts working for this major law firm in the city 453 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: of Indianapolis, and he starts working with the clients that 454 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: use this law firm to work with them to get 455 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: incentives and sweetheart deals with the City of Indianapolis, of 456 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: which this woman Scarlett Andrews, who Thomas Carl Cook was 457 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: allegedly involved in and may still be to this day 458 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: in a relationship with was in part in charge of 459 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: approving said incentives and dollars from the City of Indianapolis. 460 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: If I didn't know any better, Rob, it seems like 461 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: you would be describing a conflict of interest in city 462 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: government there. I would say, if you hook it up 463 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: with somebody who's given out the money, who's helping out 464 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: the money. Yeah, that's well, I don't know whether by 465 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: the letter of the lawed is there not. I'd say 466 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: the average first look at that and say that's not 467 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: right now. According to this Mere Indie Indie Star investigative report, 468 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: eighty at least eighty million dollars in public incentives went 469 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: to projects with ties to Cook clients. They including COVID money. 470 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: That was the standout to me. That was never about 471 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: keeping you healthy, that was never about keeping anyone safe. 472 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: That was always about funneling money to government buddies. They 473 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: claim these projects includes City Market, the vacant County jail 474 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: on the east side of downtown, and the former Angie's 475 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: List campus, and that they think mide than this Mere 476 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: Indie Indie Star joint reporting say. They think basically there's 477 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: more that was never reported on that he was also 478 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: involved with. Now this is a broader conversation, though, because 479 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: we know what Thomas Carl Cook is and was, We 480 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: know what Joe Hogg set is and was. This While 481 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: the detail are very interesting and a phenomenal job of 482 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: reporting by Mere Indy and The Indie Star, this shouldn't 483 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: surprise anyone, because it's abundantly clear that Joe hog set 484 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: knew about Thomas Carl Cook's blatantly inappropriate in engagement with 485 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: women that were his subordinates and did absolutely nothing about 486 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: it and helped him quietly not only get out of 487 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: the City of Indianapolis government, but also helped him, it's believed, 488 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: get this job at this major law firm. So this 489 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: shouldn't surprise anybody that this stuff was taking place, and 490 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: that Thomas Carl Cook was allegedly engaged in a relationship 491 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: with someone who was helping dole out the dollars. But 492 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: it's the broader thing, the broader conversation when you say, okay, well, Democrats, right, 493 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: but what about Republicans over here with the Indian Economic 494 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: Development Corporation, who there were thirty conflicts of interests revealed 495 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: in that forensic audit. They're doing the exact same thing. 496 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: It isn't a Democrat or Republican thing. It's an abuse 497 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: by people in the government thing. Same thing happening in 498 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: the Secretary of State Diego Morales office. No bid contracts 499 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: being handed out to buddies. And that's exactly what I 500 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: was about. To say. Note who broke the story. It 501 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: was Indie Star and Mere Indie, both rather left leaning institutions. 502 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: But in this case, they are doing the people's work 503 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: by speaking the truth to power and by revealing these 504 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: dirty deeds going on behind closed doors. But that begs 505 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: the question, where is the Marion County GOP on this issue? 506 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: Why aren't they making political hay on this issue? For 507 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: that matter, where is the statewide GOP on this issue? 508 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: Why aren't they making political hay out of the hotbed 509 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: of corruption that is Indianapolis City government. You already answered 510 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: the question. It's because of their own dirty deeds, their 511 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: own misdeeds that are going on behind closed doors that 512 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: benefit their friends, the same kind of no bid contracts, 513 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: the same kind of conflicts of interest that have been revealed, 514 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: And so it creates this complete impedance and inability to 515 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: call out corruption that is harming you, harming the taxpayer, 516 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: harming the citizens that are supposed to be that the 517 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: government's representatives are supposed to represent. I want to read 518 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: just one portion of this article, and everybody should go 519 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: read it because it's very well done. It's a long article. 520 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 1: Wait till noon. We don't care what you do during 521 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: Tony wait wait till noon, Goad. But I just want 522 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: to read this to put this in perspective of what 523 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: we're talking about. At the time, Cook was one of 524 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: the city's most influential power brokers, serving as Hogshead's chief 525 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: of staff and top campaign advisor. Andrews was a rising 526 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: star in the city's Metropolitan Development Development Department who some 527 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: saw as the next director. Quote you could be if 528 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: that's what you wanted, Cook told her in a text 529 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: message from the summer of twenty twenty obtained by Mere 530 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: India and the Indie Star quote I love you quote 531 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: I love you too, She responded, so clearly these people, 532 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I could pray you could probably 533 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: dropped the allegedly involved in a relationship. There was something 534 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: serious going on between them and for this not to 535 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: be divulged to the public, this woman should have not 536 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: have been making any decisions involving anything that Thomas Carl 537 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: Cook is doing because they're clearly in love, or at 538 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: least according to the text visage is obtained by mir Indi, 539 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: which means a reason personally that and go, well, you're 540 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: not gonna make potentially decisions that are best for the 541 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: city of Indianapolis. You're going to be heavily influenced and 542 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: potentially make decisions that are best for your your partner, 543 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: or your your lover, or whatever we want to call them. 544 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: And it's hard to say that the hog Set administration 545 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: didn't know about any of this because he was good friends, 546 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: close friends with Thomas Carl Cook. So how can you 547 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: feign ignorant, Well, I didn't know they were in a 548 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: relationship when I appointed this woman to serve in this 549 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: capacity as doling out dollars. You can't say that. And 550 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: it comes back to what somebody who works the state 551 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: government told me. And I know I've mentioned this on 552 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: this show before, but it's true. He said. The lasting 553 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: legacy of COVID that will hurt the public for a 554 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: very long time is that these politicians recognized we can 555 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: do whatever we want, and there's almost no chance people 556 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: are going to fight back because, let's face it, there 557 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: was very little actual resistance to being forced to wear 558 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 1: a mask, to having businesses clothed, to having people put 559 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: out of work, all of these things that were happening, 560 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: and people really didn't put up that much of a fight. 561 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: And the politicians were like, well, if they're going to 562 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: fight over this, think about the by comparison relatively little 563 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: things like you know, government corruption, conflicts of interest. We 564 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: can get away with about whatever we want, and nobody's 565 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: going to do a damn thing. It's the citizens who 566 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: perpetually receive the short end of the stick. And what 567 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: makes this especially grows is that these conflicts of interest 568 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: and enrichment is coming specifically at your expense. All right, 569 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: let's take a break when we come back. So Casey 570 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: is not here today, obviously, but she is. She will 571 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: be here later today. She's filling in along with Jim 572 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: doing the afternoon show with Hammer and Nigel. So we'll 573 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: check in with Casey when we come back to Kenel 574 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: and Casey Show Natty three WIBC. So I can tag 575 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: and it's Kennel and Casey Show. I'm rob Ethan's in 576 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: for Casey today. But speaking of Casey, she'll be filling 577 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: in this afternoon as part of the Hammer and Nigel Show. 578 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: Casey joins us now on the WIBC hot on. Let's 579 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: find out what in the world's going on in her orbit. 580 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: Ann listen, Mortley, what's coming up this afternoon, Casey Daniels, Hello, Hey, 581 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: how are you? You know what? 582 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 3: I'm sitting here reading that article that you guys just 583 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 3: talked about in Indie Star about Joe hog Set and oh, 584 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 3: you know, his old friend Thomas Carl Cook and then 585 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 3: Scarlett Andrews. Let's add a new name to the to 586 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 3: the mix. So my takeaway, Rob, if you're not a politician, 587 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 3: being a romantic relationship. 588 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: With one Okay. I don't know if you knew this, Casey, 589 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: but you're reading the article and I don't want to 590 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: spoil it for you make it to the before you 591 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: make it to the end. Thomas Carl Cook's kind of 592 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: a scumbag, do you think? 593 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,239 Speaker 3: So? I don't know his alleged I love you, I 594 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 3: love you two friend approved you know, eighty million dollars 595 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 3: of investments for some of his clients. So it seems 596 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 3: like he's making out pretty good on that seal. Huh. 597 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: Now, in fairness, I have told people ahead of me 598 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: that I loved them, and they just told me you're 599 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: being very gross and weird. Don't ever say that again. 600 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: So I didn't get quite the response that he got 601 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: out of that, you know what. 602 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 3: Okay, So I want to go back to something you 603 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 3: guys talked to Dave Shelton at the beginning of the hour, Yes, 604 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 3: and it sounded like he was trying to tell you 605 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: to behave so that you could be invited to Lincoln 606 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 3: Day dinners and such. I don't know if that landed 607 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 3: properly with you, but that's what I took away. He 608 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 3: was trying to tell you what go ahead. 609 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say, let's talk about for 610 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: a second. So Dave Shelton is running for Secretary of State. 611 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: He is the Knox County Clerk. He was on our 612 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: program earlier this hour. He appears to have very much 613 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: flip flopped on redistricting. He didn't really have an answer 614 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: for it. Now, I do want to say before I 615 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: ask you this casey, he did invite me to the 616 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: Bloomington I believe it was the Bloomington Lincoln Day dinner. 617 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: I was invited to be his guest, and I said 618 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: I I wouldn't bring that harm on anyone. But it 619 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: really sounds like he totally is flip flopping and he's 620 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: getting strong armed too. 621 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 3: Well, it sounds like they're all getting strong armed. And 622 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 3: there were a lot of people coming out after JD 623 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 3: Vance's visits saying I think, yeah, we should redistrict. He 624 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 3: did bring up a good point though, that this is 625 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 3: a national issue. One thing he mentioned when he was 626 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 3: talking with you guys that really stood out to me 627 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 3: is you had said to him, Hey, you got to 628 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 3: bring the heat against Diego Morales and he said, you 629 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 3: know what, I just want to be boring. I want 630 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 3: to be a generic R. And that to me says 631 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,959 Speaker 3: that he's just hoping for those straight ticket voters and 632 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 3: he'll just slide in under the radar with anybody who's 633 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 3: just voting straight Republican. 634 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. The problem with that, And I've told him and 635 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: I said, you know, set it right to his face. 636 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to say here and then I'll say, we 637 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: stand in front of me. He's too boring, and he's 638 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: got to get through a convention, right And he seems 639 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: to think people know about Diego's shenanigans in the corners 640 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: of the state, and I don't think they do Casey 641 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: to the extent they need to if you're going to 642 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: win at a convention. And he thinks he can run 643 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: on this government competency thing. The problem is that starts 644 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: to go out. Look. If I'm Morales, I'm clipping Shelton 645 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: on our show today and I'm running that in ads, 646 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: saying this guy can't even make up his mind. You 647 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: run a government competency. You clearly said the maps are 648 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: good and we don't need redistricting, and then a month 649 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: later you say, well, now we need it, and so 650 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: you lose the leverage that you had. 651 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 3: Okay, Now, a couple of things here. Dave Shelton, he 652 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 3: ran against Morales in twenty two, fell short in the 653 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 3: total tally there. But you're right about the boring thing. 654 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 3: You have to get some people's attention. Now, bo By, 655 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 3: who is running for Secretary of State on the Democrat side, 656 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 3: he has launched a TikTok account, and I've been watching 657 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 3: some of his videos. He was at the Colts game 658 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 3: over the weekend and he went up to I don't 659 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 3: know a dozen or so different people and ask them 660 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 3: on camera, do you know who Diego Morales is. Every 661 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 3: single one of them said no, they didn't know who 662 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 3: he was. So I think you're right that a lot 663 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 3: of people in parts of the state they don't know 664 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 3: who Diego Morales is. They're not aware of his Shenanigans 665 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 3: and if David Shelton wants to, you know, get some attention, 666 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 3: he needs to be tougher. He mentioned that he does 667 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 3: most of his talking on Facebook. He has an ex account. 668 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: He's not quite as involved. 669 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 3: Clearly he's not going to have a TikTok account. I 670 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 3: don't think Diego does either. It's hard for these state 671 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 3: people to have the TikTok account because they're not allowed 672 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 3: to have it on their state phone. But somebody like 673 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 3: bo Bye, he's going to make in roads with that. 674 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 3: He's going to get some people's attention who are on 675 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 3: that platform platform, and he's going to bring attention to 676 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 3: you know what Diego has been doing in some parts 677 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 3: of the state where WIBC is not heard. 678 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: Where do you think bow Bye's seats were at the 679 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: Colds game? You think he was up in section six 680 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: hundred with a dog and a beer, Like, what do 681 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: you think where do you think Bobaye's seats were at 682 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: the Colds game? 683 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 3: You know, he was probably on the field. He probably 684 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 3: walked in and said, do you know who I am? 685 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 3: I'm Bo Bye, Hey, Evan. 686 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: By, congrats to you. You got the Notre Dame game, 687 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,919 Speaker 1: right We've started letting Casey bet the Degenerates next door 688 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: picks for me. You were one in one win one 689 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: loss on the weekend, which is fine. I still remain 690 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: in first place in the college football rankings on our show. 691 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: But you did get that. You did get the Notre 692 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: Dame game right. So once you start thinking tomorrow, I'm 693 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,959 Speaker 1: going to let you keep making the Notre Dame picks 694 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: until you get one wrong. You're two for two this spread, 695 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: this seven and a half against USC this weekend. 696 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 3: Casey, Yeah, you can put Notre Dame for a win 697 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 3: on that one as well, and a big win. 698 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: Perhaps. 699 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 3: I do know my Notre Dame, having lived in South 700 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 3: Bend for twenty five years. But I will admit I 701 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 3: was wrong about IU. I was happy, happy to be 702 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 3: wrong about IU, because, like we always say, even if 703 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 3: you bet against them and they win, we still win. 704 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 3: And how fantastic is that for the great state of Indiana. 705 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 3: I mean, just think of us being the sports capital 706 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 3: of the country. You've got IU dominating, you got Notre 707 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,240 Speaker 3: Dame still ranks thirteen. A lot of people questioning that ranking, 708 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 3: but I'll take it. You got the Colts winning. Of course, 709 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 3: the Pacers the Fever swim City, USA Gymnastics headquarters. I mean, 710 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 3: if you are a sports fan, man. 711 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: This is the place to be, all right, So you 712 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: are doing the afternoon show. You're in for Hammer Night's 713 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: along with your husband Jim. This afternoon, what will you 714 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: be talking about? 715 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 3: Well, it is Monday, gun Day. Guy Ralford is going 716 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 3: to join us in California. Gavin Newsom signed AB eleven 717 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 3: twenty seven, which prohibits firearm dealers from selling blocks and 718 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 3: block platform pistols. So I believe that Guy Relford is 719 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 3: going to say something like we'll see you in court. 720 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 3: We're also going to do a round of Katy Perry 721 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 3: and Scary Harry Mary. 722 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: I can't wait. I'm so excited. Casey and Jim in 723 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: for Hammer and Nigel this afternoon, three to seven. Thanks Casey, 724 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: Thanks dropping all right, stick around a lot more in 725 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 1: the way. It's Kennel Casey Show, ninety THREEABC.