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Speaker 2: Oh yes, oh man, what what's going on over there?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: This is the last way I wanted to begin our

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Speaker 2: today with my least favorite part of every show.

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Speaker 1: Oh is it?

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Speaker 3: Bringing you down?

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Speaker 2: Well where I've got it. For those of it's Kendlly

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Speaker 2: Casey show. By the way, I'm Rob that's Casey, and

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Speaker 2: longtime listeners know this.

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Speaker 1: We have new people in all the time.

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Speaker 2: My least favorite part of every program, I dread it

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Speaker 2: when I know it's coming, is where I've got to

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Speaker 2: come on these very powerful airwaves that could be heard

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Speaker 2: from Illinois to Ohio and all.

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Speaker 1: Points in between.

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Speaker 2: And I've got to tell the audience how completely an up,

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Speaker 2: really right.

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Speaker 1: I was about something you did?

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Speaker 3: It again happens at least once a show, doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: And in this case, once again, we were spot on.

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Speaker 2: In this time it is about former former public safety

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Speaker 2: told you, well, we told you from the very beginning.

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Speaker 2: despite losing her run for Congress, was then given a

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Speaker 2: because nobody just voluntarily gives up two hundred and seventy

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Speaker 1: And we said, something seems.

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Speaker 2: Very wrong here Casey, and we came out and Monday

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Speaker 2: and told that, told you that, and then I got

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Speaker 1: She was volunteld you out of here. And she was.

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Speaker 2: Volunteered you out of here because one she's brutally incompetent

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Speaker 2: and two allegedly there was a mass amount of things

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Speaker 1: What is it? The peda level, the pain.

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Speaker 3: In the pain and the pain in the backside.

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Speaker 2: I said, here's what's going on, and come the Indiana

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Speaker 3: So Jennifer Ruth Green. She recently recently resigned as Indiana's

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Speaker 2: Yes so, according to The Capitol Chronicle, in full credit

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Speaker 3: So remediation agreement, that's another way of saying saying a

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Speaker 3: Six page document. It was signed back in July.

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Speaker 2: And we'd never accused the governor Austraia lying repeatedly to

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Speaker 1: A month and a half they knew about this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, her response was to put a photo out of

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Speaker 1: Are you ready for this casey? Yeah, let's see here.

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Speaker 2: Among the allegations against Greener claims that she used state

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Speaker 1: Ah, but it gets better.

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Speaker 2: Additional accusations center around inappropriate workplace conduct, ranging from quote

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Speaker 3: She also promoted her book and her brand during worktime.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to spend the day on a victory

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Speaker 1: We got to right. We got it first.

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Speaker 2: But what you need to remember is this is the

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Speaker 2: we got to get more Republicans.

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Speaker 1: This is the person they want. This is their golden child.

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Speaker 2: When you're all for rigging the maps to help the Republicans,

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Speaker 2: the golden girl of the Republican Party. They loved her,

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Speaker 2: These are the sort of people they want. These are

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Speaker 3: Now, Green has denied most of the allegations, the state

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Speaker 2: So I think more is going to come out about this.

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Speaker 3: But how do you imagine that conversation went with Mike Braun?

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Speaker 1: What I think.

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Speaker 3: Governor's got a cabinet member.

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Speaker 2: Who I would guess that she didn't have it with Braun.

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Speaker 2: I would guess she had it with some Josh Kells,

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Speaker 2: it if it weren't for you medaling kids. And in

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Speaker 2: You know the media right who are digging, who have sources,

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Speaker 2: but they tried to cover it up. It's blatantly obvious

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Speaker 2: that's your governor, and that's the people around him.

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Speaker 3: It is Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 2: Okay, remember yesterday we had that conversation about the decline

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Speaker 2: of capitalism, support for capitalism. Yes, you're about to read

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Speaker 3: Did you see that John Fetter came out and said

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Speaker 3: you have that clip? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I literally was in a former communist nation and I

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Speaker 4: any of those things. You know, like you are morons.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: The problem though, is, and he's right about socialism, of course,

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Speaker 2: the problem is we claim to have a capitalistic society.

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Speaker 1: We really don't.

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Speaker 2: The government is heavily involved in everything, and it is

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Speaker 2: much more a crony capitalism in which the government picks

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Speaker 2: say it's Washington, DC. There's certainly Indiana, see the Indian

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Speaker 2: Economic Development Corporation, in which your money is your hard

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Speaker 2: earned money as a middle class person, is taken from

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Speaker 2: you and it's given to a shadow government quasi government

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Speaker 1: See.

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Speaker 2: I just experienced this the Harper Collins building coming to Brownsburg, Tahoe. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I asked, hey, can you guys tell me how

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Speaker 2: much of my money is going to Harper Collins.

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Speaker 3: Okay. So Forbes came out with their four hundred Richest Americans.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so do you want to know some of the

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Speaker 1: Sure, hit sock it to me baby, all right?

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Speaker 3: Elon Musk number one, four hundred and twenty eight billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, we're going to continue our Jennifer

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Speaker 1: And she had no business being there.

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Speaker 3: And there's rumors going around that she's going to run

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to talk about this a lot, because

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Speaker 2: This situation is everything that's wrong with the government.

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Speaker 3: It's Kennily Casey on ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: Casey.

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Speaker 2: I told you yesterday we are not let we are

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Speaker 1: And boy out here are we on a three hour

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Speaker 3: Today like a bulldog just so tenacious yours is not

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Speaker 2: Knew, there was a mountains of dirt there and I

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Speaker 1: Right. So on our victory lap today, victory tour.

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Speaker 2: Today, let's find out about a guy who knows Indiana

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Speaker 2: politics and government better than probably anybody else. Thirty years

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Speaker 2: in the Indiana Senate jam merrit Hello, Robert, is it

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Speaker 5: Victory means it's over, So I would imagine this is

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Speaker 2: the governor, all was, well, how's how's he gonna square that?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 5: And people wonder why there is just no confidence in

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Speaker 1: A remediation agreement. And I guess.

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Speaker 5: Remediation means that you're going to fire old.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that something you do with mold remediation? So Jennifer

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Speaker 5: And when she signs this agreement and perfect analogy. That

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Speaker 5: for you, Robert and uh it blessed Nicky, Nicki, Kelly

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so real quick.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, we were we clarified this earlier.

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Speaker 1: And they had to do all the work anyway, but

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Speaker 2: To give Capital Chronicle credit. These allegations against the former

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Speaker 2: Additional accusations that around inappropriate workplace conduct, ranging from quote,

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Speaker 1: She allegedly spanned the gauntlet.

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Speaker 5: You know, Casey, I don't know about I don't know

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Speaker 1: And it's just.

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Speaker 5: One more example of how people are so casual in

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Speaker 5: And the Department of Public Safety is an integral part

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Speaker 2: But it's not the first time in my life. It

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Speaker 2: is not the first time in my time in public life.

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Speaker 2: I faced false, politically motivated leaks designed to assassinate my character.

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Speaker 2: I am pursuing legal options to address this and believe

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Speaker 2: this leak shows the reality of the environment that.

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Speaker 1: Led me to resign. They're always the victim.

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Speaker 2: So she didn't do it, that's what she But it's

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Speaker 2: the problem is she signed so she did some of

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Speaker 2: this stuff. M Like, it's like, it's like this total

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Speaker 2: disconnect of well, me.

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Speaker 5: Well, she's a perfect member of Congress now, I mean,

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Speaker 5: well she fits the mold.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a second. But that's the thing, Casey.

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Speaker 2: It's like, whether it's that interview with Micah that we're

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Speaker 2: gonna play later with Hammer and Nigel, they're always all victim.

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Speaker 2: Then they're like, these are the most powerful people in

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Speaker 2: our state, and they're always the victim and everybody else

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Speaker 2: is the bad guy.

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Speaker 1: Lady, you signed off on some of this.

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Speaker 2: You can't claim it all didn't happen because you signed

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Speaker 2: off on it.

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Speaker 3: Now, I want to ask Jim about Governor Brawn's response

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Speaker 3: to this. He said he wanted to thank Jennifer Ruth

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Speaker 3: Green for her service in his cabinet. She was part

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Speaker 3: of a transformative time in Indiana's history, and we wish

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Speaker 3: her the best of luck on her next endeavor. And

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Speaker 3: we've seen those emails when somebody is uninvited to attend

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Speaker 3: in the future. It's kind of like, you know, there's

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Speaker 3: the difference of this person's not allowed in the building

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Speaker 3: and we wish you the best. What should his response

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Speaker 3: have been, now that we know what was really going on?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think, first of all, I understand that he's

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Speaker 5: turning the page. He's shutting it down. As Robert said,

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Speaker 5: it happened on a Friday. They want to change the subject.

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Speaker 5: And as well as the fact that he has to

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Speaker 5: go by the remediation agreement, which was supposed to be confidential,

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Speaker 5: I assume, And so he's falling suit on that and

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Speaker 5: uh and and it doesn't surprise me that that he

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Speaker 5: wants to turn the page. And uh and and there

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Speaker 5: are people in the bron ministration have told me that

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Speaker 5: she was a favorite of his.

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Speaker 2: And but why Jim, this is she is a commplete buffoon,

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Speaker 2: wholly unqualified.

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Speaker 1: I hear this.

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Speaker 2: Oh, she's a rising star. She lost, she got rejected

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Speaker 2: by the voters. He didn't pick her to be lieutenant governor.

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Speaker 2: She gets in this position and totally blows it. Why

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Speaker 2: why are all these people so enamored with her? Because

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Speaker 2: I've seen zero delivery on this.

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Speaker 1: She's the next big thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know the answer to why, but I

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Speaker 5: do know the answer that the Brown ministration wants to

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Speaker 5: get away from this as soon as possible. Oh no,

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Speaker 5: we've got Rob Kendall on the keys in Casey right

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Speaker 5: behind him. Yeah, but they want to start. They want

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Speaker 5: to talk about something else today and and that's what

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Speaker 5: they're going to do. And that's what they always did.

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Speaker 5: And if you look at it, Governor Brown doesn't want

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Speaker 5: to talk negatively about the Lieutenant governor. He doesn't want

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Speaker 5: to talk negatively about the attorney general. He doesn't want

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Speaker 5: to talk negatively about the Secretary of State. And he

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Speaker 5: wants to talk about what he what his goals are.

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Speaker 5: And that's what's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, before I let you go, you and Abdul's it's

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Speaker 2: something crazy to me on Stale's happenings. You don't think,

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Speaker 2: despite this that she's done. You think she could very

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Speaker 2: easily run for Congress. Despite she's running for congress. She

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Speaker 2: is running for Congress with all.

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Speaker 1: This stuff you know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you look at our friend Jamie Nole in

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Speaker 5: New Albany in Clark County and all his illegal activities.

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Speaker 2: He's actually he's the former Clark County sheriff, Republican power broker,

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Speaker 2: now finding himself in a can.

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Speaker 1: Sell a confinement.

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Speaker 5: Yes for various and he bankrupt a couple of governments

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Speaker 5: down there, and and and did so many different illegal things.

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Speaker 5: But we in Indianapolis had really no idea that this

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Speaker 5: was actually happening because we tried Jim, yes, yes, but

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Speaker 5: no one picked up in it on it in in

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Speaker 5: Marion County and in the media, the traditional media in

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Speaker 5: Indianapolis and in the Chicago area, the northwest Indiana, the

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Speaker 5: first district, no one knows that this is happening. Uh,

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Speaker 5: but it does get give Congressman Frank Mervan a leg

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Speaker 5: up on if it is, if she survives a primary

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Speaker 5: up there. But but it's a total different media cycle,

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Speaker 5: it's a total different media section. And uh and and

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Speaker 5: she should she not should she will run for Congress

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Speaker 5: because no one in the first district knows this is

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Speaker 5: going on.

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Speaker 1: Find you on Twitter, yes, at Jim underlying Merrit and

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Speaker 1: Merrit in the morning Maren Morning. That's podcast. YouTube is

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Speaker 1: on his Facebook. Jimmerett, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 3: It's Kennilly Casey. It's ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know why you are screaming at me.

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Speaker 3: Well, were shaking your head because I have dury duty tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Oh I can't help wait, I'm just doing my civic duty.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's some people need to realize.

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Speaker 2: Like I've been for so long in politics and media

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Speaker 2: where I've been screamed at by so many people that

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Speaker 2: it just literally goes in one.

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Speaker 1: Ear and out the other. You're just tuning me out,

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Speaker 1: like normally, if.

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Speaker 2: I've made you mad enough that you're screaming at me,

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Speaker 2: I chuckle at you.

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Speaker 3: You know it was all in Jess.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't like I literally there's something in my

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Speaker 2: brain now when I get screamed at, I just just

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Speaker 2: tune it out.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, the wheels of justice turned slowly, rob

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Speaker 3: but hopefully to me for me tomorrow dury duty, they

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Speaker 3: turned swiftly. And I'm just.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure some people understand how the wheels of

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Speaker 2: justice turned case. I'm not sure they actually understand how

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Speaker 2: they turned. I think some people do think it's law

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Speaker 2: and order and if it doesn't get decided in fifteen minutes,

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Speaker 2: it's just not happening.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, no, that's not always the case. So let's

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Speaker 3: talk really quick about the Indianapolis City County Council. They're

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Speaker 3: going to make their final decision on September twenty second

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Speaker 3: regarding the rezoning petition for the proposed Google Data center.

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Speaker 3: On Monday, they voted to call down the petition, which

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Speaker 3: triggered a full council vote.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they.

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Speaker 2: Got to get fifteen people to vote no in order

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Speaker 2: to sync this thing. It appears as the vote count. Now, look,

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Speaker 2: hogg set is all for this, So weird things happen.

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Speaker 2: You know, nothing's decided until it's decided, and weird things

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Speaker 2: can happen. But as of right now to here, they

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Speaker 2: had sixteen no votes on this Google Data center. And really,

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Speaker 2: it would be the first hyper public acknowledgment by any

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Speaker 2: sort of governing body of the dangers of these things.

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Speaker 2: Dangers in the sense of the long term ramifications, potential

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Speaker 2: ramifications to the community, and the reality check that there's

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Speaker 2: so much we don't know about them, and we shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be staking our entire future across the state on things

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Speaker 2: that we don't know everything about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So counselor Michael Paul Hart, he was an early opponent.

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Speaker 3: He says he's got at least sixty counselors against the project.

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Speaker 3: His goal is to have twenty in opposition before the

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Speaker 3: boat vote. But Ron Gibson, who is a counselor, he

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Speaker 3: supports it, and he says that it's a citywide opportunity,

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Speaker 3: opportunity for what.

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Speaker 2: This is the question I keep asking opportunity for what

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Speaker 2: we know. It's a large building, so it will have

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Speaker 2: a high assessed value, but that building is going to

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Speaker 2: be abated for at least ten years maybe more. Abatement

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean they don't pay any property taxes, but they

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Speaker 2: pay a fraction of what they would have been paying.

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Speaker 2: That money, based on how property taxes are structured, goes

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Speaker 2: to that community where the property taxes are collected. So

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Speaker 2: in Brownsburg, that wouldn't help me at all. And yet

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Speaker 2: my money as a state taxpayer is being used to

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Speaker 2: facilitate these mega developments. There's no jobs to speak of.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, thirty fifty jobs whatever, and that's it.

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Speaker 2: So what is the actual benefit other than saying cool,

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Speaker 2: we have Google, Like what is and it's not like

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Speaker 2: it's Google headquarters, It's some facility used by Google.

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Speaker 1: And this is the.

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Speaker 2: Reoccurring question that keep asking to all of these communities

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Speaker 2: that are approving or pondering approving the data centers. If

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Speaker 2: there is something you can show me where it's going

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Speaker 2: to benefit that community outside of an assessed value, but

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Speaker 2: at what cost to the assessed value? And then, as

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Speaker 2: a state tax payer, my question to the Indian Economic

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Speaker 2: Development Corporation, which those always get ignored in the order

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Speaker 2: in which they received because it's a shadow quasi government entity,

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Speaker 2: why why am I paying let's just say it was

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Speaker 2: good for Franklin Township? Why am I, as a state

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Speaker 2: taxpayer paying for a mega development to go in another

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Speaker 2: community that won't pay property tax?

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Speaker 1: To me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, are any of those questions like over the top

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Speaker 2: or gotcha or whatever? No, So, until all of that

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Speaker 2: is ironed out on how these things actually benefit us

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Speaker 2: as Indiana taxpayers and how they actually benefit communities, we

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Speaker 2: shouldn't be approving any of these things.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of concerns the impact on land use,

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Speaker 3: water supply, also the power infrastructure. I saw an opinion

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Speaker 3: piece somebody said, you know, even if they vote no

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Speaker 3: to the Franklin Township one, it's just going to go

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Speaker 3: someplace else.

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Speaker 2: Sure, And that's why people need to be aware. These guys,

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Speaker 2: they're horror movie characters. They're Jason Vorhees. You can chop

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Speaker 2: them in half, you can bury them thirty feet underground,

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Speaker 2: you can put them at the ocean, you can light

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Speaker 2: them on fire, you can whatever.

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Speaker 1: There's going to be another episode.

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Speaker 2: They're going to move on to the next community because

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Speaker 2: we have the things that these data centers crave, which

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Speaker 2: is land to build them, and the water access, access

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Speaker 2: to major waterways which they need.

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Speaker 1: So they're not going away.

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Speaker 2: So everybody needs to stay super vigilant and keep rejecting them,

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Speaker 2: and then maybe finally few years from now, they'll get

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Speaker 2: the hint and go somewhere else.

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Speaker 3: It is Kennell and Casey. It's ninety three WYBC. Oh God,