1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: And Grand Rising, family, and thanks for starting your day 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: with us again. Later, the founder of the Black Lawyers 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: for Justice, we'll jump into our classroom, Attorney Malie Shabaz, 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: who will examine Trump's responds to the attack on the 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: two members of the National Guard near the White House. 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: Attorney Shabbas will also report on the Washington, DC mayoral 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: race and now that an avowed Democratic socialist just entered 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: the contest. But before Attorney Malik Detroit activists Delisa Gillespie, 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: who lost her son to street gang violence, will share 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: how she has turned her pain into what she terms 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: purpose and power, and momentarily, Doctor Christy Thornton, the CEO 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: of Baltimore's associated charity Israel, join us Associated Black Charities, 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: I should say, but first let's get Kevin, the woman 14 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 1: of the classroom doors this morning, Grand Rising, Kevin. 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 2: Grand Rising, indeed, Carl Nelson, My man, my man, it's 16 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: a little rainy and cloudy on this day in our lives, 17 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: the second day of December, and I was just wondering, 18 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: how you feeling, man, how you feel. 19 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing good? Man, I'm doing I'm going to do it. 20 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: I'm still learning. 21 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, that's a it's a perfect habit, one of 22 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 2: the one of the effective habits of successful people. 23 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: So now your thanks were revealing your secret to us. 24 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: All no secrets in this business. You know. You know 25 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: that I ain't been any radio long enough, and I 26 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: know secrets in radio. It's one it's one profession. There 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: are absolutely no secrets at all. Success secrets for a day. 28 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: Success leaves clues. Is that what you say? 29 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 4: Right? Oh? 30 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: Man, I tell you it's a lot going on in 31 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: the city. I was looking at Ward four and we 32 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 2: were talking about that earlier. Democratic Socialists unveils a bid 33 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: for d C mayor. 34 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, a young lady. 35 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: Named Janice Lewis George announced yesterday that she's launching a 36 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: bid to succeed Mayor Muriel Bounser. 37 00:01:58,600 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: What do you think? 38 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: Wow, I know she saw what happened in New York 39 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: City in Mondaminie, so she probably thinks she can pull 40 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: it off here in Washington, d C. It's going to 41 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: be interesting because you know, people will remember one of 42 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: the things that she did though, with she campaigned after 43 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: the George Floyd thinks Kevin she called for defunding the police. 44 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how popular that is today, as he 45 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: was back then after George Floyd. 46 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: Oh wow, Well, she's in her second term as a 47 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: city council member for the fourth ward. That's the you know, 48 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: the northern part of d C out there past Rock 49 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: Creek Park and you know, straight up sixteenth Street, and 50 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 2: that's what I call the northern part. And she's seen 51 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: as the first major contender to enter the race to 52 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: succeed Mayor Bowser. And again they say, according to the 53 00:02:54,840 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: Hill website, the Democratic Socialist has served since twenty twenty one, 54 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: and uh, the incumbent Brendan Tylde. 55 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 3: I guess she has. 56 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: That's how she got into being a city council member 57 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 2: of the fourth ward. 58 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: And he was a protege of Muriel Bowser. So that's 59 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: kind that's interesting. She probably feels she has some momentum. 60 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: She's you know, she's taken taking out one already, so 61 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: she'll go after the boss now. 62 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 3: Right right. 63 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 2: And another Democratic Socialist who won is a lady named 64 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: Katie Wilson in Seattle. So is there a move you 65 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: think a trend to what that? 66 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I should have been a question for for for 67 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: doctor Ray membersh maybe we can ask a Malak that 68 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: atturning malice shabous when he comes on. Uh, because some 69 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: people think, now that's the face of a democratic party, 70 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: and they were seeing a lot of young people feel 71 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: themselves as democratic socialists when they hear what a democratic 72 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: socialist is for, you know, lower taxes uh uh, housing, 73 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: better housing, transportation and all those things to bring the 74 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: prices down to make them more affordable. Hey, I like that. 75 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: So they a getting caught up in the title because 76 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: if you recall that Donald Trump tried to frame mcdomie 77 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: is a communist, you know, but that that thing, we're 78 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: thin because the people in New York still voted for 79 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: him because they understood his message. So maybe if if 80 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: what's her name again, Genie Lewis George, Yeah, she gets 81 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: that message over to Washingtonians, maybe they'll it will resonate 82 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: with them too about lower taxes or or you know, 83 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: affordable housing. That's a big prominent in the district. So 84 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: maybe she's got some already got some talking points. We 85 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: don't need to give her anything. 86 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking for Maybe they should start writing papers 87 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: on what the stance for these parties are. Remember the 88 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: Federalists papers that were written a long time ago. Alexander 89 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: Hamilton and those guys. I had a book that gave 90 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 2: you what it was about. Perhaps, so that's what they 91 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: need to do with this Democrat democratic socialists and explain 92 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: what it is, you know, where the goats can get it. 93 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: As somebody used to say, you know what I mean. 94 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, And I think that's what when Donnie did, 95 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: and as I mentioned, it resonated, especially with the young people. 96 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: The youngsters are coming up living in New York City 97 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: and can't afford to live in the city, even the suburbs. Man, 98 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: it's so expensive. Housing is so expensive. So maybe she 99 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: takes that tax. You probably saw what he did, and 100 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: I said, oh, I can try this in Washington, DC, 101 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: just waiting for Maye Bowsa to step aside. Now she 102 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: officially stepped aside, so she got out there early too, right, Well. 103 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 3: Good luck with that. 104 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: In other news, and Representative Robin Kelly introduced a bill 105 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: to combat hospitals turning away black women in labor. And 106 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 2: Mercedes Wells was in Indiana discharged from a hospital while 107 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 2: in labor and kind of had the baby out in 108 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 2: the cars. 109 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: Right on the side. I saw that man that made 110 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: national news. Uh, they turned her away. It was just 111 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: you know, the baby's coming and they're telling us, you know, 112 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: And the question is, I don't think the family soon 113 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: and I don't know if they changed their mind. At 114 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: the point is that they just wanted to say they 115 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: wanted to draw attention to what happened. What what sisters 116 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: go through. Uh when they go to these medical centers, 117 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: you know, get turned away, and it might have become 118 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: I want to blame everything on Donald Trump, but some 119 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: people in the mentality, you know, who think like him, 120 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: let me just put it that way. Probably people who 121 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: think like him and saw the sister in labor and 122 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: didn't think that she knew that, you know, the baby 123 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: was coming, and told them to go away. So they left, 124 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: and then the baby came on the sidewalk in the car. 125 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 3: Well, it couldn't have been the doctor that told her 126 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 3: to walk, We couldn't. 127 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: It must have been could have been the administrators. Yeah, 128 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: one of you go check out. Yeah, you know, the 129 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: first thing they ask you for. And folks who've been 130 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: to the hospital tell the first thing they ask you 131 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: for is your insurance card. You know, After that, you 132 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: tell them what's wrong, what's your problem, what's your insurance? Really, well, 133 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: tell yeah. 134 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 4: Well. 135 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: According to NBC News, the Women Expansion for Learning and 136 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: Labor Safety Act, or the Wells Act, would require hospitals 137 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: to implement a safe discharge labor plan before discharging a 138 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: patient who presents the signs or symptoms of labor. And 139 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: this plan would see hospitals providing clinical justification for the discharge. 140 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: So documentation beats conversation, and that way they assessed the 141 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: distance travel, the time before approving the discharge and receiving 142 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: a written understanding from the patient. 143 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 3: You know, so sign here and then walking off. 144 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 4: Wow. 145 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: So that that's the formulating the new law. Is it 146 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: state or cann stay they know how or is it 147 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: going to be a federal all they're talking about? 148 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: You know, well, right now this article on News one 149 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: is talking about the it's being introduced by Representative Robin Kelly. 150 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: She's from Indiana. And let me scroll a little further 151 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: where the Franciscan Health President and CEO Raymond Grady told 152 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: NBC News that the nurse and doctor who declined to 153 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: provide Mercedes Wells proper care no longer work for that hospital. 154 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: That's they've just been reassigned. It's an hospital just being reassigned. Them. 155 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: You know, these hospitals they have networks, So just reassign 156 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: them until the publicity. They'll holp, the publicity dies down, 157 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: and next week we'll be onto something else. 158 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 3: Okay. 159 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: Well, the final paragraph in this article says Black people 160 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: already have a heightened distrust of medical professionals due to 161 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 2: yes we do, historical mistreatment and racial eyes and health care. 162 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: The experiences of Mercedes Wells do little to dispel the 163 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: notion that the American healthcare system, and sometimes it may 164 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 2: be sick care, is designed to work against black people. 165 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 2: Hopefully the bill will pass so no more women have 166 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: will have to endure what Mercedes Wells went through. So 167 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 2: that kind of implies they wanted to go national. But 168 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: let me just jump it for a second here. What 169 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: you just said. 170 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: You know, because you said most people distrust them the 171 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,599 Speaker 1: healthcare system in this country. Also the judicial system. You 172 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: know that as well. It's just us we don't get justice. 173 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 1: So the same thing with the healthcare, and people will say, 174 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: you know, well, black people must be paranoid. You know, 175 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: it didn't happen to me. It handed those folks even 176 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: though they're black, So it's not true because it didn't 177 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: happen to me. I don't know the person who would 178 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: happen to whether it be the in the Justice department, 179 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: the justice system, the legal system, or you know, or 180 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: be in the medical area feel that like you just mentioned. So, yeah, 181 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: there's a healthy suspicion in both of those eras for 182 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: many black people. Just put it that way. 183 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: Well, okay, So I'm telling you that's something to keep 184 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 2: our eye on as well. Now, Costco is suing the 185 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: Trump administration for full refund of tariffs, and you know 186 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: they they laws who urges the Federal Trade Court to 187 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: declare Trump's emergency tarriffs illegal and authority the President says 188 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: he has under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, and 189 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 2: two lower courts have already ruled that Trump exceeded his 190 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: authority by using emergency powers to impose these terrorfs. 191 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: Your thoughts, well, you know, at least they spoke up 192 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: because a lot of the companies just ate it, you know, 193 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: they instead of just passing it on what he said 194 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: that he said the companies would just eat it. Costco 195 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: spoke up, and Costco's I think still there's a core 196 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: group of companies that are still not the dismalody on 197 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,599 Speaker 1: I think Costco's is maybe one of them. I'm not 198 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: quite sure, but I think Constcos it may be one 199 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: of those. So Costcos may be shore showing some resistance 200 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: to to what's coming out of Washington d c. 201 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: Uh yeah yeah so uh And Costco was one of 202 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: the first hit or many of those retailers like that. 203 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 3: But are they still on our list of Black Friday or. 204 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: You know what we gotta find out maybe I'm you're 205 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: good with me. Latasha Brown, Latasha right, Latasha calls until 206 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: it's the impact, but because I think it was just 207 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: through a good Friday too? 208 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 4: Was it? 209 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: Was it through just Black Friday? Or isis. 210 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 4: It? May be? 211 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: It may end today. I don't have that in front 212 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: of me, but at least through the beginning of the month. 213 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: So, and what we're talking about family. Latasha was here 214 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: last week and she's her group, Black Voters is a 215 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: Black Voters matter. I think it's the sile of her group, 216 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: and they're leading a drive to uh to recycle it 217 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: basically recycle black dollars. But really once people just stay 218 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: home and our shop over the over the holiday, the 219 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day holiday, and I'm sure in DC I saw 220 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: where people were protesting or and I want to say 221 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: blocking in front of it. Was it a Target store? 222 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: I'm sure you saw that Target, Amazon, and Home Depot. 223 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 2: I don't forget those three. I know they were on 224 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 2: top of the list. Hey, and look on the it's 225 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 2: kind of chilly outside and at least the snow didn't 226 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: show up that the weather man was talking about, and 227 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: the rain did. But the rain, Yeah, that little drizzle 228 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 2: kind of messes with you this morning. But that's the 229 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 2: way it is. On the second of December. 230 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 4: Carl h. 231 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 2: We've got your guests standing by you. I'll let you 232 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: do the honors. Thanks for your time. 233 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: Hi, Thanks Kevin, all right, Grand Rising family thirty many 234 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: at the top of that. Christy Thornton Grand Rising, welcome 235 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: back to the program. 236 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 5: Hello, thanks for having me back. 237 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I love to have you back because you've 238 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: got a conference coming up with Systems, so we want 239 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: to talk about that. But first you're with Associated Black 240 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: Charities in Baltimore. Can you tell us what the ABC? 241 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: What does your company do? What does that? What do 242 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: you guys do? 243 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 5: Absolutely? What forty year old nonprofit organization that is focusing 244 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 5: on economic empowerment for black community members We're looking at 245 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 5: the ways that structural racism has impacted the lives of 246 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 5: black people, black families specifically economically, in housing, education, healthcare access, 247 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 5: and in the criminal justice system. And so for forty 248 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 5: years we've worked unapologetically to break down those barriers and 249 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 5: to empower our community members. And so the event we're 250 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 5: having this Friday, Women on the Move. 251 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 1: Is just more of that, all right, family, Just so 252 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: that's the voice of doctor Christy Thornton Is. She's with 253 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: ABC Associated Black Charities in Baltimore. They're having a program 254 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: for Women on the Move. Now you've crowd she's probably 255 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: not a good word, but several outstanding women they are 256 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: going to be on this conference. Can you share some 257 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: information about each one of them? 258 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 4: For us? 259 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 5: Absolutely, so many outstanding women. First of all, for the 260 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 5: fourth year in a row, we have Crystal Berger. She 261 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 5: is an award winning journalist. She's the founder of Ebo 262 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 5: Media Group. She's been an outstanding Ebo Media Group, She's 263 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 5: been an outstanding moderator for us over the past four years. 264 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 5: She'll also be giving the keynote address that evening, and 265 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 5: then on our pan off for Friday, we have Tamla 266 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 5: Olivier who is the very new president and CEO of BGE. 267 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 5: We have Kimberly Prescott, the founder and president of Prescott HR, 268 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 5: and Robin Murphy, the CEO of what used to be 269 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 5: known as Baltimore Office of Promotion and Arts BOPA but 270 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 5: now known as Create Baltimore. 271 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: Got to ask you this doctor thought, did you get 272 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: any pushback? Because these are all sisters on this panel 273 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: says for the women men invited to this conference as well. 274 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 4: As you know. 275 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 5: About a week ago we had an event called Men's 276 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 5: Night Out, and while we always say all are welcome, 277 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 5: we try not to discriminate. We do try to create 278 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 5: safe spaces specifically for our targeted audience. Our target audience 279 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 5: for this event is black women, and we believe not 280 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 5: only do we deserve this safe space, but we need it. 281 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 5: Our men's event about two weeks ago was extremely successful 282 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 5: with over two hundred predominantly black men in the room 283 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 5: with the opportunity to network, to connect, to find alignment 284 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 5: and all those things, and we want to be able 285 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 5: to create that space for women as well. At the 286 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 5: same time, all welcome, and I think people need to 287 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 5: decide what room they want to place themselves in and 288 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 5: why and then we'll, you know, certainly not turn anyone away. 289 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: All right. Seventeen A halfter the top of that, we 290 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: got to step aside for a few moments and we 291 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: come back though. I got to ask you about the sisters, 292 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: the younger women, the young girls too, if there's a 293 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: role for them to play in this conference, do you 294 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: have things for them, especially the sisters who you know 295 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: who those ones who are about that life. You know 296 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, the franchise sisters who probably need 297 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: more health than any other segment in our society because 298 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: they probably have lost their way and need probably somebody 299 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: to show them their way, because you all your women 300 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: are very successful. So I'll let you respond that when 301 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: we get back. Family, you two can join this conversation 302 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: with our guest, doctor Thornton. Reach out to us at 303 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six and 304 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: we'll take your phone calls next and Grand Rising family, 305 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: thanks for waking up with us on this Tuesday morning. 306 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: Twenty minutes after the top of that, with our guest, 307 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: we have doctor Christy Thornton. She is the She is 308 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: the president CEO of Associated Black Charity is based in Baltimore. 309 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: They having a conference for women that's going to take 310 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: place this Friday in Baltimore, of course, and my question 311 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: to her before we left for the break was is 312 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: there something for our young sisters? There is there a program, 313 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: is something you guys have carved out for younger members 314 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: of the younger women in our society. 315 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 5: Absolutely. So let me just clarify too that this event 316 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 5: is a one night event. It is a professional space, 317 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 5: and it really is meant to be a learning space 318 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 5: for professional women who are navigating this moment where black 319 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 5: women are in unprecedented pressures and leadership and work and family, 320 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 5: et cetera, so that we can learn from one another, 321 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 5: we can connect with one another. But there certainly is 322 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 5: a space for young girls, we call them our emerging 323 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 5: leaders to be in this room. We want them to 324 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 5: know that not only can they lead, they deserve to lead. 325 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 5: And we know that already they're beginning to face the 326 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 5: biases that many of us professional adults already face. So 327 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 5: in middle school and high school, we know that black 328 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 5: girls face stereotypes and academic bias and overdiscipline and microaggression. 329 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 5: That's certain things they grow up to face in professional 330 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 5: settings and so we build a room where they and 331 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 5: the adult women don't have to shrink, they don't have 332 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 5: to code switch, and we know that they can heal 333 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 5: and find empowerment through connection with one another, and so 334 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 5: we certainly do encourage. We usually have emergent leaders as 335 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 5: young as twelve in the room with the professional women 336 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,160 Speaker 5: and it's a great networking and connection opportunity for them 337 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 5: as well. 338 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's great outstanding. Twenty two after the top 339 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: the marks online. Too Easy in Baltimore has a question 340 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: for you, Doctor Thornton. Grand Rise in Markey on with 341 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: doctor Christy Thornton. 342 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 6: Yes, good morning, as very good presentation. I'm a member 343 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 6: of a local neighborhood improvement association here in the northwest 344 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 6: section of Baltimore City, and we have a lot of 345 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 6: young people who might be interested in this type of program. 346 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 6: We always try to get them involved in civics and 347 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 6: try to get them involved in planning for their future. 348 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 6: As they say, we have a lot of eligible women 349 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 6: who I believe might benefit from this program. Now, besides 350 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 6: well one aspect of course, we have sports, but also 351 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 6: I know you have other things. It's more than just 352 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 6: a there's more delight than sports in the future. So 353 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 6: what could we do as an association encourage our ladies 354 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 6: in our community to be more involved in their sister 355 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 6: a particular program you work with neighborhood civic associations and 356 00:18:58,560 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 6: the like, or how does this work. 357 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 5: So we have a lot of relationships with many of 358 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 5: the neighborhood associations. So I would say, if you have 359 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 5: an interest in making sure that some of your participants 360 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 5: are at Women on the Move on Friday, that you 361 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 5: reach out to our office. We have some opportunities for 362 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 5: anyone who would like to attend to do so. But 363 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 5: the biggest thing is that when specifically younger women or 364 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 5: women who are in transition or emerging into their leadership cells, 365 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 5: when they are able to engage with other black women 366 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 5: who are in leadership spaces, we found that they're more 367 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 5: likely to pursue higher education, they're more likely to become leaders, 368 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 5: they're more likely to have higher self esteem, and they're 369 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 5: able to start to build these strong professional networks earlier. 370 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 5: We know that in traditional workspaces were often left out 371 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 5: of those professional networks, and so this space is meant 372 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 5: to help people connect so that they can eventually make 373 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 5: more confident career decisions like I'm fay girling out about 374 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 5: being in a room with Tamla Olivier and Kimberly Prescott 375 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 5: and Robin Murphy. Too often idolize people and entertainers and 376 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 5: sports figures that you know, really don't represent necessarily what 377 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 5: we have opportunities to become. And so this is an 378 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 5: opportunity for young women and women who are in transitional 379 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 5: women who are wanting to grow in their leadership, to 380 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 5: be in a room to build their career confidence, to 381 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 5: learn about money management, to think about purpose, to navigate 382 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 5: mental health issues, and to really own their brilliance. So 383 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 5: of course we want young girls to be in this room, 384 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 5: we want emerging leaders to be in this room, and 385 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 5: we want regular black female professionals to be in this 386 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 5: room because we're all navigating very specific challenges specifically in 387 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 5: the world of work. 388 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 7: We'll do well. 389 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 6: Los is really good. Thank you very much, keep it 390 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 6: to good work, and I wish you o Hilon, Thank 391 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 6: you so much, love buddy, thank you. 392 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: Thanks Mark twenty five of the Top of our Family 393 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: with doctor Christy Thornton being Women on the Move Confidence 394 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: taking place this weekend Friday. To be exact, she'll give 395 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: you all the information you need, but doctor Thorny got 396 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: I ask you this question. You know, how much of 397 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: this confidence came together or is going to help some 398 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: of the women who lost their jobs, because recently we 399 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: saw that the shutdowns, especially the federal government shutdowns, that 400 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: Black women were disportunately impacted by losing their jobs. How 401 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: much of this confidence is going to address that issue? 402 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 5: I mean absolutely so. You know, analysts are estimating that 403 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 5: between May and August of twenty twenty five that over 404 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 5: three hundred thousand Black women either exited or were displaced 405 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 5: completely from the labor force. And this was due, of 406 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 5: course the shutdowns and layoff centrician but really also due 407 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 5: to structural exclusion, which is something that we face. But 408 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 5: the main issues that not only have we lost jobs, 409 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 5: that are we actively losing jobs. Many Black women are 410 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 5: staying unemployed longer and a larger number are dropping out 411 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 5: of the workforce altogether. And many Black women are in 412 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 5: the financial support system for their household. So this is 413 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 5: creating long term financial instability in the black community. This 414 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 5: is an issue that we have to face, and we 415 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 5: have to face it together. On top of pre existing 416 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 5: issues of gender and racial wage gaps where women earn 417 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 5: lesson men and black women earn even less than them, 418 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 5: and that these systemic wage gaps have been you know, 419 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 5: a legacy of black women earning substantially less comparable to 420 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 5: white men. So all these things are going on in 421 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 5: this movement, and so it's important for us to come 422 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 5: together so that we can start to build networks where 423 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 5: those of us who have decision making positions can start 424 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 5: to look back and mentorship and sponsorship for other people. 425 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 5: Where we're having open conversations about what it means to 426 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 5: break ceilings and to redefine what leadership looks like in 427 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 5: Maryland specifically, and we're able to hear not just honor 428 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 5: these black women, but hear from them about their journeys, 429 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 5: how they've attained success, how they're continuing to navigating shifting 430 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 5: culture and systems and expectations and all the things. And 431 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 5: so this particular event, Women on the Move, is built 432 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 5: to address all of those things at once. 433 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: All right, twenty eight after top down Family, just waking up, 434 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: I guess you start to Christy Thornton's US with Associated 435 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 1: Black Charities in Baltimore. They're having a conference for Women 436 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: on the Move that's a Titler conference and just a 437 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: moment ago, we talked about the women Black women that 438 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: were impacted in the layoffs as you know, as we 439 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: mentioned that disproportionately laid up. So women who have lost 440 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: their job, is it going to be a networking abilities 441 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: for them who are probably looking at to you know, 442 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: maybe a career move or just just trying to find 443 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: it just just a job. As you mentioned, many of 444 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: our sisters are the sole supporters. Are you know, the 445 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: chief financial person in the house these days? So will 446 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: you be able to help some of those sisters who've 447 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: lost their jobs? 448 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 5: I believe. 449 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 4: So. 450 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 5: We start the event off with a traditional networking session, 451 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 5: but we also have what we call one to one mentorship, 452 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 5: a speed dating of sorts that people can participate in 453 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 5: so that you can go ahead and meet people in 454 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 5: the room right now and find commonality, find common interests, 455 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 5: and stay in touch. Like this whole thing is about 456 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 5: us starting to burn our networks. Have an opportunity in 457 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 5: a convening to meet professional women we may not have 458 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 5: ever come in contact with, and then to stay in 459 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 5: touch so that we can pull one another up and 460 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 5: lift as we climb, because that's what it's all about 461 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 5: specifically for black women. 462 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: I know it's done a job, you know, a job conference, 463 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: an employment conference, but should they bring resumes so with 464 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: them to this conference? 465 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 5: Listen, I would bring if with access to this room, 466 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 5: I would bring whatever I had. I would bring resumes, 467 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 5: I would bring business cards. I would bring you know 468 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 5: if there are one cheaters, bios, those kind of things, 469 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 5: because sometimes you only have one opportunity to be in 470 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 5: a space that is meant to lead to your elevation, 471 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 5: and so I would encourage that. I don't see anything 472 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,719 Speaker 5: wrong with women coming prepared to share what they need 473 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 5: to about themselves and to make strong asks in a 474 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 5: room that's built for them to do so. 475 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: All right, family, thirty minutes on the top, I guess 476 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: it's doctor Chrissy Thornton having a conference of women on 477 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: the move. It's going to take places on the Friday 478 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: in Baltimore. A tweeter sent me a tweet and says 479 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: black women are under a tap because I said, I 480 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: guess it's from a black women's They say black women 481 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: are under a tap as we are the most educated 482 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: group in this country. Do you agree with that assssion? 483 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 4: Oh? 484 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 5: I did not only agree with it. We know that 485 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 5: to be true. We are the demographic of people in 486 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 5: the United States that have pursued most higher education. We're 487 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 5: often not compensated for having that higher education in those 488 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 5: advanced degrees. We have prepared ourselves, like black women bought 489 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 5: in to the fact that we had to be twice 490 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 5: as good and twice as educated and all of the things. 491 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 5: And then we walk into the workforce and sometimes I 492 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 5: think face insurmountable obstacles by being under resource and pit 493 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 5: against one another in the workplace and all these things. 494 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 5: And so women on the Move is an event that 495 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 5: allows us to start to break down those obstacles and 496 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 5: barriers that present themselves toward our success. And sometimes the 497 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 5: answer for black women is to do our own thing right, Like, 498 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 5: let's not also look at the fact that entrepreneurship, which 499 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 5: should be growing in our community at this specific moment, 500 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 5: is a pathway too. But even in our entrepreneurship, we 501 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 5: want to make sure we have mentorship, that we're aligned 502 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 5: with great strategic partners, and all of the things, so 503 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 5: that through our own self determination, we can begin to 504 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 5: break down some of the obstacles that are placed on 505 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 5: our pathway. 506 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to ask you this question politically, because 507 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: you know last year the sisters came out in force 508 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,479 Speaker 1: for Vice Press and Kamala Harris and Vine nine had 509 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: worked over time and in the end they sort of 510 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: got disappointed and the political signs are trying to figure 511 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: out where are these black women now? And now we 512 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: founding many of them lost their jobs. I don't know 513 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: if there's any impact if that, if the political field 514 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: people saw that they came out and sort of punishing them, 515 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to go there. I'll leave that out 516 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: to people, the political scientists to work that out. But 517 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: what has happened to that group was so invigorated to 518 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: supporting Kamala Harris and as mentioned, many of them may 519 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: have lost their jobs. Don't know if that was the 520 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: reason why that. Other people answer that, but where do 521 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: you think all those sisters going with that energy, that 522 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: positive energy was there trying to get her elected and 523 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: sort of dissipated. 524 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 5: Right now, listen, all of the progress oriented movements in 525 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 5: this country have been built on the backs of black women. 526 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 4: Right. 527 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 5: Some people may not like that unpopular opinion. Black women 528 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 5: have always carried both formal and informal political power beyond 529 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 5: just who gets elected, and we have as voters always 530 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 5: prioritize issues that have directly affected our communities, healthcare access, 531 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 5: economic justice, criminal justice, reform, social equity. Unfortunately, many of 532 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 5: our counterparts, in white women and in black men, did 533 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 5: not show up the way we did the election, and 534 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 5: so now we all face the consequences of their inaction. 535 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 5: We've always, as black women, been active in social justice. 536 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 5: We've participated in protests and organizing and grassroots civic efforts. 537 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 5: And so while we are, you know, now all facing 538 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 5: the consequences of how the election went, we've continued to 539 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 5: heavily influence I think political culture, and continued to mobilize, 540 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 5: continued our civic participation in community leadership. At the same time, 541 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 5: we're working to survive. We're working to survive the high 542 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 5: unemployment rates. We're working to survive the systems and structural 543 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 5: efficiencies that have always negatively impacted us as black ones. 544 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: Hope we're called it and drop it sounded like it dropped, Kevin, 545 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: if you if you drop, can you get it back? 546 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: For Ust twenty eight minutes away from the top of 547 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: our family, just checking in for she heard that is 548 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: doctor Christy Thornton, that having a conference called Women on 549 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: the Move and it's going to take place this Friday 550 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: at five point thirty. Starts at five thirty the Regilar 551 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: of Lewis regul Lewis Museum. And the question I wanted 552 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: to ask her too, because women have, you know, different 553 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: responsibilities than men. And what I'm going here is childcare. 554 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: They have to balance, you know, aring children and still 555 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: you know, got to bring home the bacon is so 556 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: to speak. Man just got to go to job that 557 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: usually just the childcare issue is just placed on the 558 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: on the feet of the women. I know some guys 559 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: who are who when they're hiring it were telling me 560 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: when I was in the position to hire people, I said, man, 561 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,479 Speaker 1: you got to watch when you hire women because they 562 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: have you know, if they got uh, they have a babysit, 563 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: they have children, then they have to take off. 564 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 5: So that's what helps my God, Carl Nelson, I done 565 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 5: came back and you talk about women needing babysitters and childcare. 566 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 5: I missed what you said earlier. 567 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 4: But that's. 568 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you because you know what the posie 569 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: to hire people. And I was talking to a friend 570 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: of mine who's you know, goes through the hiring process, 571 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: you know, and he said, well, you got to be careful, 572 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, because you know, with with the women and 573 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: we're both black and black, with their sisters, you got 574 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: to find out that if they have children and if 575 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: they got childcare, because you know, he was just concerned 576 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: they show up for work. 577 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 5: And and Alex just doesn't that speak to the doesn't 578 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 5: that speak to the structural challenges of the family and 579 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 5: America that both a man and a woman have children 580 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 5: and you have to worry about women having child care 581 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 5: and being able to balance all those things in the workforce. 582 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 5: And that's the privilege that men have. See, that's why 583 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 5: y'all are disconnected me on this morning. That is the 584 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 5: privilege that men have to walk into spaces and build 585 00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 5: their careers unencumbered by family, unencumbered by being thought of 586 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 5: as less qualified, unencumbered by the stereotypes and assumptions that 587 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 5: are made by them. And I mean, black women carry 588 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 5: so much on their shoulders just to exist, just to 589 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 5: lead their families, and just to become successful in the workplace. 590 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 5: So this is why we need a safe space. We 591 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 5: need a safe space like Women on the Move, to 592 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 5: come together to navigate our challenges together and to just 593 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 5: align and love and compassion for one another, because the 594 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 5: system will create narratives about us as women, first as 595 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 5: Black women, specifically that we can't succeed the way a 596 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 5: man can. And we know that where black women lead 597 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 5: in organizations, the revenue is higher, the outcomes are more intense, 598 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 5: and the impact is better. And so you know, I 599 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 5: don't know what you can talk about, but I would say, 600 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 5: I'm glad you do this talent. 601 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 4: Thought that we have. 602 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you addressed that because you know, as 603 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: a man, sometimes we don't see that. You know, even 604 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: when you're in hiring positions. I know that that goes 605 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: to the mind if folks when they got to hire women, 606 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: will they CHILLINGE you have? Did you have a babyshitter? 607 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 5: You know you're going to call in those illegal, highrid questions. 608 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: I know, but that goes to that goes they find 609 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: a way to ask those questions. 610 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 4: I go. 611 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: I tell you, they find a way to ask those 612 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: questions without being as broad as as I am. Right now, Yeah, 613 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna try to share with the audience what what 614 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: women have to go through in the hiring process. You know, 615 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: all these things that these men don't are these hurdles 616 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: we don't have to we don't have to go over. 617 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 5: And can you imagine being someone who becomes the president 618 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 5: and CEO over BGE or the CEO of Create Baltimore, 619 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 5: or your own founder and president of your own HR 620 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 5: firm and having navigated what it meant to provide childcare, 621 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 5: to navigate through pregnancy through NA, to navigate through perimenopause 622 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 5: and menopause, and these other things that men never have 623 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 5: to face and still sometimes show up in their success 624 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 5: in mediocrity as compared to Black women who tend to 625 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 5: outwork out and out succeed their counterparts in every direction. 626 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 5: So you know, as I hear you talk about it, 627 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 5: it's very angering to me. But it is you know, 628 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 5: obstacles and barriers that we have to first acknowledge and 629 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 5: then look at ways to structurally navigate as well. 630 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad they did because I want That's why 631 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: I wanted you to respond to that, because that happens, 632 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: and it still happens today. They just are very skillfully, 633 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: you know, go around doing it. But those are the 634 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: questions they get to when it comes to the hiring process. 635 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: And I know a lot of the sisters at your conference. 636 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: You know, they're going to be talking about networking and 637 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: jobs and you know, and these are some of the 638 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: things that men don't we don't have to know. They 639 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: don't ask many these questions. They don't ask you if 640 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: you have a babysitter, you know, they don't go through that. 641 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, are you pray they don't get those 642 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: those and they ask you. They don't ask you directly 643 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: these days. Like I said, they know very skillfully how 644 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: to ask these questions, so they can't be pegged as 645 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: being discriminatory. Discriminatory. But hold up right there, because I 646 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: got a tweet question for you about politics and women voting. 647 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: I'll address that question and we come back. Family, is 648 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: twenty three minutes away from the top day. We got 649 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: to check the news and sports and the weather in 650 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: our different cities. You want to join this conversation with 651 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: doctor Christy Thornton, reach out to us at eight hundred 652 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: four to five zero seventy eight seventy six. We'll take 653 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: your phone calls after the news it's next and ground Rising. Family, 654 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: thanks for waking up with us on this Tuesday morning. 655 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: Twenty minutes after the top of that. With our guest, 656 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: we have doctor Christy Thornton. She is she is the 657 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: president CEO of Associated Black Charity is based in Baltimore. 658 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: They having a conference for women that's going to take 659 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: place this Friday in Baltimore, of course, and my question 660 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: to her before we left for the break was is 661 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: there something for our young sisters? There is there a program, 662 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: is something you guys have carved out for younger members 663 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: of younger women in our society. 664 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 5: Absolutely, So let me just clarify too that this event 665 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 5: is a one night event. It is a professional space, 666 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 5: and it really is meant to be a learning space 667 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 5: for professional women who are navigating this moment where black 668 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 5: women are in unpressed and pressures and leadership and work 669 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 5: and family, et cetera, so that we can learn from 670 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,719 Speaker 5: one another, we can connect with one another. But there 671 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 5: certainly is a space for young girls, we call them 672 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 5: our emerging leaders to be in this room. We want 673 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 5: them to know that not only can they lead, they 674 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 5: deserve to lead. 675 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 6: And we know that. 676 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 5: Already they're beginning to face the biases that many of 677 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 5: us professional adults already face. So in middle school, in 678 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 5: high school, we know that black girls face stereotypes and 679 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 5: academic bias and overdiscipline and microaggression. That's certain things they 680 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 5: grow up to face in professional settings, and so we 681 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 5: build a room where they and the adult women don't 682 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 5: have to shrink, they don't have to code switch, and 683 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 5: we know that they can heal and find empowerment through 684 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 5: connection with one another, and so we certainly do encourage. 685 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 5: We usually have emergent leaders as young as twelve in 686 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 5: the room with the professional women and it's a great 687 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 5: networking and connection opportunity for them as well. 688 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's great. Outstanding. Twenty two after top they 689 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: march online. Too Easy in Baltimore has a question for you, 690 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: Doctor Thornton. Grant rise in marking on with doctor Christy Thornton. 691 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 6: Yes, good morning, as very good presentation. I'm a member 692 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,959 Speaker 6: of a local neighborhood improvement association here in the Northwest 693 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 6: section of Baltimore City, and we have a lot of 694 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 6: young people who might be interested in this type of program. 695 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 6: We always try to get them involved in civics and 696 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 6: try to get them involved in planning. 697 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 4: For their future. 698 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 6: As they say, we have a lot of eligible women 699 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 6: who I believe might benefit from this program. Now besides 700 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 6: well one aspect of course we have sports, but also 701 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 6: I know you have other things. It's more than just 702 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 6: a there's more delight than sports in the future. So 703 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 6: what could we do as an association and encourage our 704 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 6: ladies in our community to be more involved in their 705 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 6: sister a particular program? You work with neighborhood civic associations 706 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 6: and the like, or how does this work? 707 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 5: So we have a lot of relationships with many of 708 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 5: the neighborhood associations. So I would say, if you have 709 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 5: an interest in making sure that some of your participants 710 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 5: are at Women on the Move on Friday, that you 711 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 5: reach out to our office. We have some opportunities for 712 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 5: anyone who would like to attend to do so. But 713 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 5: the biggest thing is that when specifically younger women or 714 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 5: women who are in transition or emerging into their leadership cells, 715 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,760 Speaker 5: when they are able to engage with other black women 716 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 5: who are in leadership spaces, we found that they're more 717 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 5: likely to pursue higher education, they're more likely to become leaders, 718 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 5: they're more likely to have higher self esteem, and they're 719 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 5: able to start to build these strong professional networks earlier. 720 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 5: We know that in traditional workspaces were often left out 721 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 5: of those professional networks, and so this space is meant 722 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 5: to help people connect so that they can eventually make 723 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 5: more confident career decisions. Like I'm saying, girling out about 724 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 5: being in a room with Tamla Olivier and Kimberly Prescott 725 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 5: and Robin Murphy. Too often we idolize people and entertainers 726 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 5: and sports figures that you really don't represent necessarily what 727 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 5: we have opportunities to become. And so this is an 728 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 5: opportunity for young women and women who are in transitional 729 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 5: women who are wanting to grow in their leadership, to 730 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 5: be in a room to build their career confidence, to 731 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 5: learn about money management, to think about purpose, to navigate 732 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 5: mental health issues, and to really own their brilliance. So 733 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 5: of course we want young girls to be in this room, 734 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 5: we want emerging leaders to be in this room, and 735 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 5: we want regular black female professionals to be in this 736 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 5: room because we're all navigating very specific challenges specifically in 737 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:31,959 Speaker 5: the world of work. 738 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 4: We'll do well. 739 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 6: Los is really good. Thank you very much, keep it 740 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 6: to good work and it wish your chalon. Thank you 741 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 6: so much, by Buddy, Thank you. 742 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: Thanks Mark twenty five of the top of our family 743 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: with doctor Christy Thornton and the Women on the Move 744 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: conference taking place this weekend Friday, to be exact, He'll 745 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: give you all the informations you need. But doctor Thorny 746 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: Gott asked you this question, you know, how much of 747 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: this confidence came together or is going to help some 748 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: of the women who lost their jobs, because recently we 749 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: saw the shutdowns, especially the federal government shutdowns, that black 750 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: women were disfortunately impacted by losing their jobs. How much 751 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,280 Speaker 1: of this confidence is going to address that issue? 752 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 5: I mean absolutely so. You know, analysts are estimating that 753 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 5: between May and August of twenty twenty five that over 754 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 5: three hundred thousand Black women either exited or were displaced 755 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 5: completely from the labor force. And this was due, of 756 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 5: course the shutdowns and layoff centrician but really also due 757 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 5: to structural exclusion, which is something that we face. But 758 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,919 Speaker 5: the main issues that not only have we lost jobs 759 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 5: and are we actively losing jobs, many Black women are 760 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 5: staying unemployed longer and a larger number are dropping out 761 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 5: of the workforce altogether. And many black women are in 762 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 5: the financial support system for their household. So this is 763 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 5: creating long term financial instability in the black community. This 764 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 5: is an issue that we have to face, and we 765 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 5: have to face it together. On top of the pre 766 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 5: existing issues of gender and racial wage gaps, where women 767 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 5: earn lesson men and black women earn even less than them, 768 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 5: and that these systemic wage gaps have been, you know, 769 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 5: a legacy of black women earning substantially less comparable to 770 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 5: white men. So all these things are going on in 771 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 5: this movement, and so it's important for us to come 772 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 5: together so that we can start to build networks where 773 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 5: those of us who have decision making positions can start 774 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 5: to look back and mentorship and sponsorship for other people. 775 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 5: Where we're having open conversations about what it means to 776 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 5: break ceilings and to redefine what leadership looks like in 777 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 5: Maryland specifically, and we're able to hear not just honor 778 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,760 Speaker 5: these black women, but hear from them about their journeys, 779 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:40,280 Speaker 5: how they've attained success, how they're continuing to navigating shifting 780 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 5: culture and systems and expectations and all the things. And 781 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 5: so this particular event, Women on the Move is built 782 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 5: to address all of those things at once. 783 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,439 Speaker 1: All right, twenty eight after Top Down Family, just waking 784 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: up I guess you start the Christy Thornton. She's with 785 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 1: the Associated Black Charities in Baltimore. They're having a conference 786 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: for Women on the Move. That's a TILER conference and 787 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: just a moment of we talked about the women Black 788 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: women who were impacted in the layoffs as you know, 789 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: as we mentioned that disproportionately laid up. So women who 790 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: have lost their job, is it going to be a 791 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: networking abilities for them who are probably looking at to 792 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 1: you know, maybe a career move or just trying to 793 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 1: find it just just a job. As you mentioned, many 794 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: of our sisters are the sole supporters, are you know, 795 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: the chief financial person in the house these days? So 796 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 1: will you be able to help some of those sisters 797 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 1: who've lost their jobs? 798 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:30,720 Speaker 5: I believe. 799 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 4: So. 800 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 5: We start the event off with a traditional networking session, 801 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 5: but we also have what we call one to one mentorship, 802 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 5: a speed dating of sorts that people can participate in 803 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 5: so that you can go ahead and meet people in 804 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 5: the room right now and find commonality, find common interests 805 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 5: and stay in touch. Like this whole thing is about 806 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 5: us starting to burn our networks. Have an opportunity in 807 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 5: a convening to meet professional women. We may not have 808 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 5: ever come in contact with and then to stay in 809 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 5: touch so that we can pull one another up as 810 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 5: we climb, because that's what it's all about, specifically for 811 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 5: black women. 812 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: I know it's done a job, you know, a job conference, 813 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: an employment conference, But should they bring resumes so with 814 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: them to this conference? 815 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 5: Listen, I would bring if with access to this room, 816 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,240 Speaker 5: I would bring whatever I had. I would bring resumes, 817 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 5: I would bring business cards. I would bring you know, 818 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 5: if there are one cheaters, bios, those kind of things, 819 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 5: because sometimes you only have one opportunity to be in 820 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 5: a space that is meant to lead to your elevation, 821 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 5: and so I would encourage that. I don't see anything 822 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 5: wrong with women coming prepared to share what they need 823 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 5: to about themselves and to make strong asks in a 824 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,800 Speaker 5: room that's built for them to do so. 825 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: All right, family, thirty minutes at the top, I guess 826 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: it's doctor Christy Thornton having a conference of women on 827 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: the move. It's going to take places on the Friday 828 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: in Baltimore. A tweeter sent me a tweet and says 829 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: black women are under a tap because they said, I 830 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: guess it's from a black women's They say, black women 831 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 1: are under a tap because we are the most educated 832 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: group in this country. Do you agree with that assertion? 833 00:41:58,560 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 4: Oh? 834 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 5: I did not only agree with it, we know that 835 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 5: to be true. We are the demographic of people in 836 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 5: the United States that have pursued most higher education, and 837 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 5: we're often not compensated for having that higher education in 838 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 5: those advanced degrees. We have prepared ourselves, like black women 839 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 5: bought in to the fact that we had to be 840 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 5: twice as good and twice as educated and all of 841 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 5: the things. And then we walk into the workforce and 842 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 5: sometimes I think face insurmountable obstacles by being under resource 843 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 5: and pit against one another in the workplace and all 844 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 5: these things. And so women on the Move is an 845 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,879 Speaker 5: event that allows us to start to break down those 846 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 5: obstacles and barriers that present themselves toward our success. And 847 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 5: sometimes the answer for black women is to do our 848 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 5: own thing right, Like, let's not also look at the 849 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,280 Speaker 5: fact that entrepreneurship, which should be growing in our community 850 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 5: at this specific moment, is a pathway too. But even 851 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 5: in our entrepreneurship, we want to make sure we have mentorship, 852 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 5: that we're aligned with great strategic partners, and all of 853 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 5: the things so that through our own self determination, we 854 00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 5: can begin to break down some of the obstacles that 855 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 5: are placed on our pathway. 856 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to ask you this question politically, because 857 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, last year the sisters came out in force 858 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,399 Speaker 1: for Vice Press and Kamala Harris and Vine nine had 859 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 1: worked over time and in the end they sort of 860 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: got disappointed, and the political sign is trying to figure 861 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 1: out where are these black women now and now founding 862 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: many of them lost their jobs. I don't know if 863 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: there's any impact if that, if the political field people 864 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: saw that they came out and sort of punishing them, 865 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to go there. I'll leave that out 866 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 1: to people, the political scientists to work that out. But 867 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,840 Speaker 1: what has happened to that group was so invigorated to 868 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: supporting Kamala Harris and as mentioned, many of them may 869 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: have lost their jobs. Don't know if that was the 870 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 1: reason why that Other people answer that, But where do 871 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: you think all those sisters going with that energy, that 872 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: positive energy was there trying to get her elected and 873 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: sort of dissipated. 874 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 5: Right now, listen, all of the progress oriented movements in 875 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 5: this country have been built on the backs of black women. 876 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 5: Right Some people may not like that popular opinion. Black 877 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 5: women have always carried both formal and informal political power 878 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 5: beyond just who gets elected, and we have as voters 879 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:14,240 Speaker 5: always prioritize issues that have directly affected our communities, healthcare access, 880 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 5: economic justice, criminal justice, reform, social equity. Unfortunately, many of 881 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 5: our counterparts, in white women and in black men, did 882 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 5: not show up the way we did the election, and 883 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 5: so now we all face the consequences of their inaction. 884 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,240 Speaker 5: We've always, as black women, been active in social justice. 885 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 5: We've participated in protests and organizing and grassroots civic efforts. 886 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 5: And so while we are, you know, now all facing 887 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 5: the consequences of how the election went, we've continued to 888 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 5: heavily influence I think, political culture and continued to mobilize, 889 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 5: continued our civic participation in community leadership. At the same time, 890 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 5: we're working to survive. We're working to survive the high 891 00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 5: unemployment rates. We're working to survive the systems structural deficiencies 892 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 5: that have always negatively impacted us as a black one. 893 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 1: Hope we're called it and drop. It sounded like it dropped. Kevin. 894 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: If you if you drop, can you get it back first? 895 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,839 Speaker 1: Twenty eight minutes away from the top of our family, 896 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 1: just checking in for she heard that is doctor Christy 897 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 1: Thornton and having a conference called Women on the Move 898 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 1: and it's going to take place this Friday at five 899 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: point thirty. Starts at five thirty the regular of Lewis 900 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: regular Lewis Museum. And the question I wanted to ask 901 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 1: her too, because women have, you know, different responsibilities than men. 902 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: And what I'm going here is childcare. They have to balance, 903 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 1: you know, wearing children and still you know, got to 904 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: bring home the bacon is so to speak. Men just 905 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: got to go to the job that usually just the 906 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,479 Speaker 1: childcare issue is just placed on the on the feet 907 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 1: of the women. I know some guys who are who 908 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: when they're hiring, were telling me when I was in 909 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: the position to hire people, I said, man, you got 910 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,800 Speaker 1: to watch when you're hire women because they have you know, 911 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 1: they got they have a babysit, they have children. Then 912 00:45:58,960 --> 00:45:59,839 Speaker 1: they have to take off. 913 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 5: So that's what helps my God, Carl Nelson, I don'et 914 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 5: came back and you talking about women needing babysitters and childcare. 915 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 5: I missed what you said earlier, but that's. 916 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, because you know what the position 917 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 1: to hire people. And I was talking to a friend 918 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 1: of mine who you know, goes through the hiring process, 919 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 1: you know, and he said, well, you got to be careful, 920 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, because you know, with with the women and 921 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: we're both black and black, with their sisters, you got 922 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 1: to find out that if they have children and if 923 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: they got childcare, because you know, he was just concerned 924 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:28,919 Speaker 1: they show up for work. 925 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 5: And and Alex just doesn't that speak to the doesn't 926 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 5: that speak to the structural challenges of the family and 927 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 5: America that both a man and a woman have children 928 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 5: and you have to worry about women having child care 929 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 5: and being able to balance all those things in the workforce. 930 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 5: And that's the privilege that men have. See, that's why 931 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 5: y'all have disconnected me on this morning. That is the 932 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,319 Speaker 5: privilege that men have to walk into spaces and build 933 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 5: their careers unencumbered by family, unencumbered by being thought of 934 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,320 Speaker 5: as less qualified, unencumbered by the stereotypes and assumptions that 935 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 5: are made by them. And I mean, black women carry 936 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,320 Speaker 5: so much on their shoulders just to exist, just to 937 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 5: lead their families, and just to become successful in the workplace. 938 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 5: So This is why we need a safe space. We 939 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 5: need a safe space like women on the move, to 940 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 5: come together, to navigate our challenges together and to just 941 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 5: align and love and compassion for one another, because the 942 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 5: system will create narratives about us as women, first, as 943 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 5: black women, specifically, that we can't succeed the way a 944 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 5: man can. And we know that where black women lead 945 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 5: in organizations, the revenue is higher, the outcomes are more intense, 946 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 5: and the impact is better. And so, you know, I 947 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,879 Speaker 5: don't know what you can talk about, but I would 948 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 5: say I'm glad. 949 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 4: That we have. 950 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you addressed that because you know, as 951 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: a man, sometimes man, we don't see that. You know, 952 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 1: even when you're in hiring positions, I know that that 953 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 1: goes to the mind if folks they when they got 954 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: to hire women, well, how many chileng do you have? 955 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 1: Do you have a babysit? 956 00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 5: You know, legal higher questions I know, but that goes. 957 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,839 Speaker 1: That goes they find a way to ask those questions. 958 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 4: I go. 959 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: I tell you, they find a way to ask those 960 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:14,439 Speaker 1: questions without being as broad as I am. Right now, Yeah, 961 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,320 Speaker 1: we're going to try to share with the audience what 962 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 1: what women have to go through in the hiring process. 963 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,359 Speaker 1: You know, all these things that which men don't are, 964 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 1: these hurdles we don't have to we don't have to 965 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: go over. 966 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,240 Speaker 5: And can you imagine being someone who becomes the president 967 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 5: and CEO of BGE or the CEO of Create Baltimore, 968 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,319 Speaker 5: or your own founder and president of your own HR 969 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 5: firm and having navigated what it meant to provide childcare, 970 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 5: to navigate through pregnancy through NAVI, to navigate through perimenopause 971 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 5: and menopause, and these other things that men never have 972 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,720 Speaker 5: to face and still sometimes show up in their success 973 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 5: in mediocrity as compared to Black women who tend to outwork, 974 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 5: outpace and outsucceed their counterparts in every direction. So you know, 975 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,239 Speaker 5: as I you talk about it, it's very angering to me, 976 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 5: but it is you know, obstacles and barriers that we 977 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,320 Speaker 5: have to first acknowledge and then look at ways to 978 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,239 Speaker 5: structurally navigate as well. 979 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad they did because I want That's why 980 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 1: I wanted you to respond to that, because that happens, 981 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,360 Speaker 1: and it still happens today. They just are very skillfully, 982 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, go around doing it. But those are the 983 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 1: questions they get to when it comes to the hiring process. 984 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 1: And I know a lot of the sisters. That's your conference. 985 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 1: You know, they're going to be talking about networking and 986 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 1: jobs and you know, and these are some of the 987 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: things that men don't we don't have to know. They 988 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 1: don't ask many these questions. They don't ask you if 989 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,880 Speaker 1: you have a babysitter, you know, they don't go through that. 990 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, are you pray they don't get those 991 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,800 Speaker 1: those and they ask you. They don't ask you directly 992 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,319 Speaker 1: these days. Like I said, they know very skillfully how 993 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 1: to ask these questions, so they can't be pegged as 994 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 1: being discriminatory. Discriminatory. But hold up right there, I've got 995 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: a tweet question for you about politics and women voting. 996 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 1: I'll address that question when we come back. Family is 997 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 1: twenty three minutes away from the top day. I got 998 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 1: to check the news and sports and the weather in 999 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 1: our different cities. You want to join this conversation with 1000 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 1: doctor Christy Thornton, reach out to us at eight hundred 1001 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 1: four five zero seventy eight seventy six. We'll take your 1002 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,959 Speaker 1: phone calls after news that's next and Grand Rising Family, 1003 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 1: thanks for starting you on Tuesday with us I guess 1004 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 1: it is doctor Christy Thornton. Doctor Thornton is the president 1005 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 1: and CEO of ABC Associated Black Charities in Baltimore, and 1006 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: they having an event for the women coming up on Friday. 1007 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,360 Speaker 1: Before we get more into the event, doctor Thornton, doctor 1008 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 1: Hockey in Baltimore has a question for you. It's online too, 1009 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,760 Speaker 1: Grand Rising, doctor Hockey, a question for doctor Thornton. 1010 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 8: Yes, Grand Rasin, but the call and Grand rasin to 1011 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 8: doctor Christy Thoughton, it's always great to hear you. You 1012 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 8: always dropt us some jewels. She's full of knowledge and 1013 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 8: by the call, they Associated Black Charity just doing tremendous 1014 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 8: work in the Baltimore metropolitan area and throughout Maryland. I 1015 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:57,399 Speaker 8: may say because the the legacy of ABC certainly has 1016 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:02,919 Speaker 8: reached beyond Baltimore, and uh, you know, it's very substantive work. 1017 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 8: And I wanted to just plug you know, just sister 1018 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 8: Crystal Verger. She's actually grew up in the Emerson Village area, 1019 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,279 Speaker 8: so shout out to e V where I partially was raised. 1020 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 8: So we certainly, you know, yeah, we certainly are proud 1021 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 8: of her work. And she's done tremendous job throughout the 1022 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 8: years and and butt the call. We're gonna do a 1023 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:34,279 Speaker 8: early happy birthday to Christie. She's that's okay, Christie, We 1024 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:41,359 Speaker 8: all with her, Okay, all right, She turning fifty soon, 1025 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 8: so because she's joined us, well me in the fifty 1026 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 8: area fifty one, so so we're just excited. 1027 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 4: Becau. 1028 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 8: I was part of the board Pipeline Training Associated Black 1029 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 8: Chariteys have and I was one of the speakers at 1030 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 8: the male event, and so you know, it's just good 1031 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,239 Speaker 8: that if they find a balance in having sisters to 1032 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 8: come together and really just you know, soak in the 1033 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:14,800 Speaker 8: knowledge and the positive energy of sisters who have different 1034 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 8: types of experiences in life. And so you know, I 1035 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 8: can imagine, you know, just the power and of that 1036 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,359 Speaker 8: room and the wisdom that's going to be shared. 1037 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 4: So I would just. 1038 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:30,720 Speaker 8: Encourage all of the sisters and brothers, encourage some sisters 1039 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 8: to actually come and be a part. We have to 1040 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 8: at the Regil Refluence Museum. It's not a better place 1041 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 8: for sisters to show up and step out of their 1042 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,320 Speaker 8: comfort zone if you don't show up at some different 1043 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 8: types of events. We have to keep expanding our networks 1044 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 8: to ensure that. As I said when I spoke, I said, 1045 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 8: we have to have one arm reaching up and one 1046 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,359 Speaker 8: arm reaching down to you know, pull up, pull up 1047 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 8: our brothers and sisters as well as give people the 1048 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 8: opportunity to pull us up. So that's what I'll say, 1049 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,359 Speaker 8: and looking forward, keep up to good work. 1050 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 1: Thank you lot, all right, Thank you doctor so much, 1051 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 1: and again happy birthdays at doctor Thornton. Thank you Hockey 1052 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 1: for mentioning that. But doctor Thornton, you've done this a 1053 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,399 Speaker 1: few times with Hockey. You mentioned what's different about this year, 1054 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 1: So I mean, I just think the. 1055 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 5: Climate is different this year, right, Like I think there's 1056 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,920 Speaker 5: more motivation and intention for us to connect. Women on 1057 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,440 Speaker 5: the Move was the first official event I attended as 1058 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 5: president and CEO of the organization, and I remember walking 1059 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,360 Speaker 5: into the room and feeling the energy and feeling the 1060 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 5: pride to see that many professional women of all ages 1061 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 5: in a room together, looking to learn, together, looking to 1062 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,880 Speaker 5: expand not just our knowledge but our relationships. So I 1063 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,839 Speaker 5: think having a space that is built for us, by us, 1064 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,719 Speaker 5: and has this kind of attension that allows you to 1065 00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 5: walk in one way and walk out as a stronger, clearer, 1066 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,720 Speaker 5: and more connected black woman is so important and so amazing, 1067 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,239 Speaker 5: and specifically in the way the world was showing up 1068 00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,480 Speaker 5: for us. Now it's important for us to do this 1069 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 5: and come together for the event. 1070 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 1: All right, And I got a tweet I want to 1071 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 1: know if this is going to be online. 1072 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 5: It is not online. It is intentionally an in person 1073 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 5: event for connectivity in the Baltimore region. 1074 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's important. I like that, you know, you know, 1075 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,800 Speaker 1: meeting and face to face and you can, you know, 1076 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 1: you could you get to know people more when you 1077 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,600 Speaker 1: get this face to face you can see their expressions 1078 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,239 Speaker 1: and deal with on a personal level. At this meeting 1079 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,360 Speaker 1: that's going to take place again for the lake Comers 1080 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 1: though at Doctor Christy Thornton give us again that the 1081 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 1: name of the folks who are going to some of 1082 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 1: these dynamic system I mean looking at some of the 1083 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,719 Speaker 1: resumes of some of the mood that you have put 1084 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 1: this panel together and share with the the lake Comers. 1085 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,719 Speaker 1: Whore just getting up at end of seven o'clock out, 1086 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 1: who's going to be there? 1087 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 5: Yes, So Women on the Move This Friday, December fifth, 1088 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,120 Speaker 5: from five point thirty to nine pm at the REGINALD F. 1089 00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 5: Lewis Museum are moderator and keynote seak. It is Crystal Berger, 1090 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 5: Award winning journalists and the founder of EBO Media Group. 1091 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,840 Speaker 5: We are so fortunate to have three outstanding panelists, Tamla Olivier, 1092 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 5: who is the president and CEO Black Woman, President and 1093 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:17,400 Speaker 5: CEO of Baltimore Gas and Electric, Kimberly Prescott, the founder 1094 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,279 Speaker 5: and president of Prescott HR, and Robin Murphy, CEO of 1095 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,880 Speaker 5: what used to be BOTHA Baltimore Office of Promotion in 1096 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,880 Speaker 5: ours newly rebranded as Create Baltimore. So we're so excited 1097 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:28,439 Speaker 5: to have all. 1098 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 4: Four of those ladies with us. 1099 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,280 Speaker 1: All Right, an a tree question, it's political again, doctor 1100 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 1: Thornton and says, are you going to be mobilizing young 1101 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 1: women to vote in the upcoming midterms. It's crucial that 1102 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 1: we show up in large numbers, and so we. 1103 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:47,640 Speaker 5: Are always mobilizing all women, all black community members to vote. 1104 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 5: We know that again I said before that we have 1105 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 5: the power to swing elections, not necessarily carry them, but 1106 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,840 Speaker 5: to swing them. But we do know that all of 1107 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,759 Speaker 5: the issues on the agenda will disproportionately affect Black women. 1108 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:04,160 Speaker 5: We're always encouraging the civic duty of participation in voting 1109 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:06,400 Speaker 5: and how young of the. 1110 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 1: Black women are invited that can take you know, take 1111 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,600 Speaker 1: take part in this. How young can they be? How 1112 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,799 Speaker 1: long do you think they can really understand what's going 1113 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:14,880 Speaker 1: on as young. 1114 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,800 Speaker 5: As young as twelve years old, and typically that is 1115 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,399 Speaker 5: a grandmother, a auntie, a mom bringing their younger child 1116 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 5: with them. We've also partnered with some local civic organizations 1117 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,400 Speaker 5: like the Women Civically, we've partnered with the National Coalition 1118 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 5: of one hundred Black Women, the Baltimore Metropolitan Chapter, so 1119 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:35,399 Speaker 5: that they can tap into their constituents and bring young women, 1120 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 5: middle aged women, older, more seasoned women. And so the 1121 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:43,359 Speaker 5: room is very diverse, and it's such an opportunity for women, 1122 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 5: I would say twelve and older to really glean from 1123 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 5: what's shared in the room. 1124 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,960 Speaker 1: All right, and you're saying that the women who show 1125 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,200 Speaker 1: up shoes to make sure they have their business cause 1126 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,800 Speaker 1: if they or their resumes or you know, and stuff 1127 00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 1: like that, everything they should happen. 1128 00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:57,359 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1129 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,799 Speaker 5: Absolutely. If you're seeking connectivity for professional advancement, I would 1130 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,320 Speaker 5: certainly bring my resume. It's not a job fair. I 1131 00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 5: would certainly bring my business card. But there is an 1132 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,600 Speaker 5: opportunity for networking and one to one mentoring that happens 1133 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 5: in the room before we start the panel discussion. 1134 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to ask you this though. Excuse the dress, 1135 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, because there's sometimes you know, the corporate dress 1136 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 1: is dress for a corporate structure, for a more relaxed 1137 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,520 Speaker 1: the business, it's the business attires is a little less relaxed. 1138 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,560 Speaker 1: Are you going to coach or share information with that 1139 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,040 Speaker 1: with these women who attending this event? 1140 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,160 Speaker 5: So now we tend not to do that. And actually, 1141 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,640 Speaker 5: because this is a safe space that's built by us, 1142 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,680 Speaker 5: people come and say are listen, we know one thing, 1143 00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,760 Speaker 5: we know how to overachieve, and we know how to 1144 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,959 Speaker 5: be cute. And so it tends to be a space 1145 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 5: where people are comfortable where they come as they are. 1146 00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:50,880 Speaker 5: We are expressing not just their individuality and their creativity, 1147 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 5: but their cultural representation as well, and we welcome that. 1148 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 5: And so this is not a you know, typical job 1149 00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,560 Speaker 5: coaching session. And I would think that knowing some of 1150 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,160 Speaker 5: the women that on the panel, they'll be able and 1151 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,640 Speaker 5: willing to discuss how they show up at work, which 1152 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,520 Speaker 5: is different when you're a CEO who's a black woman, 1153 00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 5: right and probably willing to discuss some of the non 1154 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,520 Speaker 5: traditional ways that they not only show up but advocate 1155 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 5: for the culture and the organization to be more inclusive. 1156 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 1: I got to ask you this question, since we're talking 1157 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:24,040 Speaker 1: about dress here are you guys, is that an issue? 1158 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,240 Speaker 5: Well, you know, it's an issue. That's why we needed 1159 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 5: the Crown Act, which was sponsored by a very own Delegate, 1160 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 5: Stephanie Smith here in the Maryland Legislature. We needed the 1161 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 5: Crown Act to help us have safety and protection to 1162 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,280 Speaker 5: show up with our hair the ways that it naturally 1163 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,120 Speaker 5: grows out of our scalp, and in the ways that 1164 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 5: we choose to represent culture and individuality and all of 1165 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 5: the things. And so I would say, as you mentioned 1166 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 5: earlier where you were talking about some of the hidden 1167 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 5: discrimination that takes place in hiring, that all of those 1168 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 5: things become factor right, Like there's a compelling to conform, 1169 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 5: there's a compelling to coach swims, there's a compelling to 1170 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 5: conform to society's white standard of beauty and acceptance. And 1171 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,800 Speaker 5: those are the things that show up as obstacles for 1172 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 5: black women who are tend to be the smartest in 1173 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,000 Speaker 5: the room, the most educated, and the most accomplished to 1174 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:18,200 Speaker 5: attain just basic consideration for workplace advancement. And so those 1175 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 5: are the barriers that we fight and show up for. 1176 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,520 Speaker 5: But when you have someone like a Tamla Olivier and 1177 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,080 Speaker 5: a Kimberly Prescott and a Robin Murphy and a Crystal 1178 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 5: Berger who show up the way they show up as 1179 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 5: strong Black women, unapologetically and are willing to coach and 1180 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 5: share their pathways with other people, then you'll have more 1181 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,920 Speaker 5: people who are ready to show up as their natural 1182 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,320 Speaker 5: and individual selves in the workplace as well. And that's 1183 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,480 Speaker 5: how we begin to break down the barriers. We get 1184 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,080 Speaker 5: the power and then we begin to work to break 1185 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:51,520 Speaker 5: down those obstacles together. 1186 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,680 Speaker 1: Oh wow, love that, doctor Christy Thorn. Before we'll let 1187 00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,360 Speaker 1: you go again, give us all the details, what time, where, 1188 00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,760 Speaker 1: email address or phone numbers for more information. 1189 01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, so absolutely. Women on the Move is hosted by 1190 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,240 Speaker 5: Associated Black Charities. That's held this Friday, December fifth, at 1191 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,720 Speaker 5: the Reginald F. Lewis Museum from five thirty to nine pm. 1192 01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 5: Like we're going to have a girl's night out. Spend 1193 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,000 Speaker 5: that time together, learning, connecting and loving on one another. 1194 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 5: And if you're interested, you can go to Associated Black 1195 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 5: Charities website www dot Associated at Black Charities dot org 1196 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,960 Speaker 5: look for Women on the Move for information on how 1197 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,480 Speaker 5: to connect to that event. 1198 01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,760 Speaker 1: Well, thank you and once again, happy birthday when it comes. 1199 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,160 Speaker 5: Thank you so much. Thanks appreciate the time. 1200 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,720 Speaker 1: All righty, thank you doctor Thornton. That's doctor Christy Thornton 1201 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 1: from Associated Black Charities in Baltimore and having their events 1202 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,680 Speaker 1: this Friday starts at four to thirty. Women on the move. 1203 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 1: You ladies out there want to network with some more 1204 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 1: progressive sisters, that's the place you need to beat. It's 1205 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,680 Speaker 1: Friday at Reginald Lewis the Museum twelve after the top 1206 01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,960 Speaker 1: of Ilis just told you some more dynamic sisters. Now 1207 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,960 Speaker 1: how to Detroit. It's just the Delisa Gillespians Willis is 1208 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:06,920 Speaker 1: also the sister Shashana Shakur Grand Rising Sisters. Welcome back 1209 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:07,560 Speaker 1: to the program. 1210 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,760 Speaker 9: Graham Rising, my brother, how are you doing. 1211 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm still learning. I'm still learning and. 1212 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,040 Speaker 9: I'm still learning from your program every day. You have 1213 01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 9: so much information and education for us, and thank you 1214 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:25,160 Speaker 9: for that. 1215 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:27,800 Speaker 1: Thank you, Sister Delisa. 1216 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 10: Yes, good morning, mister Nelson. I thank you and appreciate 1217 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,280 Speaker 10: you for this opportunity this morning. 1218 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 1: How are you I'm like I told Sister Shashana, I'm 1219 01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 1: still learning. But let's talk about what you guys are 1220 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,600 Speaker 1: here for this morning, because you know, last time we 1221 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,560 Speaker 1: talked to you, De Lisa, you lost your eighteen year 1222 01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 1: old son the gun violence in Detroit, and it was 1223 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:52,480 Speaker 1: I know it was pretty painful to discuss. I'm not 1224 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,400 Speaker 1: it's painful more painful to the fact that you lost 1225 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,400 Speaker 1: into the hands of another black person, the ely black 1226 01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:01,160 Speaker 1: young man. Where are you with that on that journey? 1227 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 1: Is the pain still there or this new project you're 1228 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:08,320 Speaker 1: working on, is this something to remove the pain or 1229 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,880 Speaker 1: can you remove the pan or change the pain? Can 1230 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:11,720 Speaker 1: you share that with us? 1231 01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:12,880 Speaker 4: Well? 1232 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:17,840 Speaker 10: I think as a mother, a parent, a survivor, you 1233 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:22,720 Speaker 10: cannot remove the pain, but there's ways to redirect the pain. 1234 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,960 Speaker 10: And I think that's what myself and my family have 1235 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:31,040 Speaker 10: did with the Seeds of Smoke organization. I have made 1236 01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,160 Speaker 10: every effort to work on my pain and turn my 1237 01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:39,800 Speaker 10: pain into power and purpose. So my son is still gone. 1238 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:44,840 Speaker 10: The murder is still unsolved. As you mentioned, it's a 1239 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:50,160 Speaker 10: young black man whose life was taken by other young 1240 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,160 Speaker 10: black men. That's all I know. You know through the 1241 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:58,160 Speaker 10: camera footage provided by the police that there were three 1242 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:04,840 Speaker 10: young black men and black mass black hoodies that just 1243 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:09,200 Speaker 10: ambush my son driving when he was driving my truck. So, 1244 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,479 Speaker 10: you know, black on black crime. That's the unfortunate piece 1245 01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,240 Speaker 10: of this is our babies killing our babies. 1246 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you shared with fourteen minutes of the top 1247 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,440 Speaker 1: of our family de Lisa Gilestlie's I guess along with 1248 01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:25,040 Speaker 1: sister Shashana, she call it activist in Detroit and the 1249 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 1: sister Delisa was here when right after her son got shot. 1250 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,000 Speaker 1: And what if the police is the case closed now? 1251 01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,280 Speaker 1: Is just still open? What's what's going on with the case? First? 1252 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:35,720 Speaker 1: Before you tell us what you're doing. 1253 01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,600 Speaker 10: It is still open. It's it's not a cold case. 1254 01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:47,080 Speaker 10: The police are still actively working on the investigation. However, 1255 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:52,320 Speaker 10: there the suspects have not been secured, so there no 1256 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:57,480 Speaker 10: one is currently being held accountable. So still lack injustice 1257 01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:58,600 Speaker 10: in that aspect. 1258 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,360 Speaker 1: You know, somebody knows who shot yourseln there's somebody right 1259 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 1: there in Detroit who when they heard about the shooting. 1260 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,760 Speaker 1: Somebody knows, somebody knows, somebody who knows. And then I'm 1261 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,080 Speaker 1: talking is that how do you. 1262 01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:12,560 Speaker 4: Deal with that. 1263 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:16,120 Speaker 1: In the community? 1264 01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,880 Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, you know, I don't know how we 1265 01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:24,080 Speaker 10: deal with that. That is just that that's real for 1266 01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 10: these kids. You know, I'm a director of mental health 1267 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 10: in Detroit Public Schools and I work with young people 1268 01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:36,080 Speaker 10: every day who stand by that, and not just on 1269 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:41,840 Speaker 10: something as severe and significant as a murder, but on 1270 01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:46,240 Speaker 10: every aspect. It is the no snitch rule and these 1271 01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:49,200 Speaker 10: kids are are grounded in it and this is what 1272 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,560 Speaker 10: they stand on. And I don't know where we go 1273 01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:54,400 Speaker 10: to get them away from this. 1274 01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:55,560 Speaker 4: And this is not new. 1275 01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,880 Speaker 10: This is not a twenty twenty five. 1276 01:04:59,160 --> 01:04:59,520 Speaker 4: Model. 1277 01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:05,080 Speaker 10: It's been going on, you know, for years. And you 1278 01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,960 Speaker 10: know when I talk to young people, they say, MS glassy, 1279 01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,840 Speaker 10: I'm not going to talk about that. I'm not going 1280 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:15,560 Speaker 10: to tell you that. And you know, through being clinical therapists, 1281 01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:19,320 Speaker 10: there's ways I can go around it and sometimes get information, 1282 01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,120 Speaker 10: but their bottom line is if you're calling me in 1283 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:27,640 Speaker 10: here to tell on someone or tell something, I'm not 1284 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:28,080 Speaker 10: doing it. 1285 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:31,960 Speaker 1: Wow. Seventeen after the top, Then we come back my 1286 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 1: own to ask a Sister Shashana about that. If there's 1287 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 1: something we can do before we get into the project, 1288 01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:41,360 Speaker 1: that you've turned that pain into a real power purpose 1289 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,960 Speaker 1: and I want to share that with the audience as well. Family, 1290 01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,960 Speaker 1: you got questions about this particular situation, especially when it 1291 01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,480 Speaker 1: comes to our young people taking each other out. We 1292 01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,480 Speaker 1: don't have to do that. We've got to do better. 1293 01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,040 Speaker 1: We just got to do better. I'm sorry. Seventeen after 1294 01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:55,640 Speaker 1: the topic, let's take the brand. We come back and 1295 01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,360 Speaker 1: speak with Delisa and also a sense of Shashana, and 1296 01:05:58,440 --> 01:05:59,800 Speaker 1: you can reach them too. If you want to join 1297 01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:02,120 Speaker 1: this discussion, hit us up at eight hundred four five 1298 01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,680 Speaker 1: zero seventy eight to seventy six. It will take your 1299 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,760 Speaker 1: phone calls next and Grand Rising family, thanks for joining 1300 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:09,960 Speaker 1: us on this Tuesday morning. Twenty one minutes after the 1301 01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:13,480 Speaker 1: top of that. Two sisters from Detroit, sister Desa Delisa 1302 01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:17,320 Speaker 1: and also sister Shashana, have been here before. Sister de Lisa. 1303 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,360 Speaker 1: The last time she was here, she told the story 1304 01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,040 Speaker 1: of losing her eighteen year old son to gun violence, 1305 01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,120 Speaker 1: street gun violence, and the prom she just told hasn't 1306 01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,920 Speaker 1: been solved. But that's not stopping her. She's turned that 1307 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,840 Speaker 1: pain now into a purpose, a power, and a purpose. 1308 01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,600 Speaker 1: She's going to share with us what she did to 1309 01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 1: direct the pain from that, because it's still there from 1310 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,880 Speaker 1: that shooting that took place. When was that, Delisa, When did. 1311 01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:45,200 Speaker 10: That happen July twenty twenty three. July twelveth of twenty 1312 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:45,800 Speaker 10: twenty three. 1313 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,360 Speaker 1: Wow, Sister Shanna, before the break, I was going to 1314 01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,160 Speaker 1: ask you, because I know you worked a lot with 1315 01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,880 Speaker 1: the young people as well. This is no snitch rule 1316 01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 1: that our young people are embracing. How do we break that? 1317 01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,160 Speaker 1: How do we at some point this there certain things 1318 01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 1: that you know shouldn't qualify for those rule, especially when 1319 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,840 Speaker 1: life another person is taking right. 1320 01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,680 Speaker 9: And that's an excellent question, like a million dollar question 1321 01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,800 Speaker 9: that I don't think many of us have the answer 1322 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:22,280 Speaker 9: to what Lisa is experiencing with the you know, young 1323 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:26,440 Speaker 9: people not wanting to talk. You know, I went through 1324 01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:31,080 Speaker 9: it twenty one years before her, twenty years before her 1325 01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:35,000 Speaker 9: son was murdered. My son was murdered, and they wouldn't 1326 01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:39,560 Speaker 9: till then, and they're not telling now, and they're upholding 1327 01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:44,680 Speaker 9: that right now. We have to be solutions driven and 1328 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,680 Speaker 9: we have to work on things, and we are. And 1329 01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:53,720 Speaker 9: what we're working on is re education. We have to 1330 01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:58,160 Speaker 9: re educate these young people that you know, there are 1331 01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:03,880 Speaker 9: times when they need to bring information forward and and 1332 01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:08,040 Speaker 9: and and I feel will not to the police because 1333 01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:12,480 Speaker 9: the police are the same people who will harm them oftentimes. 1334 01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:18,120 Speaker 9: And I'm saying that I'm not speaking for Belisa, but yeah, 1335 01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,880 Speaker 9: so I think we have to love them, we have 1336 01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,920 Speaker 9: to re educate them, We have to do what Lisa's doing. 1337 01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:30,000 Speaker 9: You asked her about her pain and that, and that's 1338 01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:34,680 Speaker 9: a question that a lot of people who haven't been 1339 01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:39,800 Speaker 9: through that experience want to know. She still has that pain, 1340 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,000 Speaker 9: but like she said, she can redirecting it, and she's 1341 01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:46,760 Speaker 9: redirecting it in a way where other mothers won't have 1342 01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:50,120 Speaker 9: to feel that pain, other fathers won't have to feel 1343 01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:54,679 Speaker 9: that pain. If she can say other children from losing 1344 01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:59,639 Speaker 9: their lives, then her son's death will not be in vain. Yes, 1345 01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:04,639 Speaker 9: he gone from this planet, but everything happens for a reason, 1346 01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:10,000 Speaker 9: and I didn't want my great news to leave this earth. 1347 01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:14,519 Speaker 9: But I tell Lisa all the time when she talks 1348 01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:18,519 Speaker 9: about purpose, that's her purpose, and she is and she's 1349 01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,760 Speaker 9: going to get into that because she's doing a magnificent job. 1350 01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:25,519 Speaker 9: And one other point that I want to say, Carl 1351 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:30,000 Speaker 9: is that it's just what happened to her son, Khalil 1352 01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:35,280 Speaker 9: didn't just impact his mother and father and his siblings. 1353 01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:40,639 Speaker 9: It impacted his friends. Khalil was not a street guy 1354 01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,679 Speaker 9: what I would call a street guy. Okay, his friends 1355 01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:48,479 Speaker 9: weren't street guys, right, Sometimes when you live in the streets, 1356 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:52,599 Speaker 9: you know, you come accustomed to that type of life 1357 01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:56,200 Speaker 9: and you expect and anticipate things. What happened to you, 1358 01:09:56,720 --> 01:10:04,559 Speaker 9: like Khalil's murdered. So when Khalil left his people, his friends, 1359 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:10,200 Speaker 9: their lives have been damaged. And I'm gonna leave it 1360 01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:13,400 Speaker 9: at that. If Lisa wanted to share anything about that. 1361 01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:18,599 Speaker 9: But what you said, Carl, this has got to stop. 1362 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,840 Speaker 9: I don't understand why is this still going on? 1363 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,800 Speaker 1: Well, let me just go and ask you ladies. Twenty 1364 01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:29,400 Speaker 1: five off of tomp Lisa. Something that wasn't about the 1365 01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,800 Speaker 1: street life. He wasn't in the gang, wasn't the hood. 1366 01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,720 Speaker 1: Wasn't it that it was clean cut young brother, you know, 1367 01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,200 Speaker 1: knowing what he was doing, going up doing it, minding 1368 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:41,479 Speaker 1: his own business, and he gets he gets, as you mentioned, 1369 01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,640 Speaker 1: he has taken out by somebody who looks like it. 1370 01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,360 Speaker 1: Have you guys figured out what the is there any 1371 01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,840 Speaker 1: motive for that? What was all that all about? It 1372 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,800 Speaker 1: just didn't like him or you know, I'm just trying 1373 01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:56,160 Speaker 1: to figure out the police told you any possible motives 1374 01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,160 Speaker 1: or did they say he was or they tried to 1375 01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,479 Speaker 1: paint him you know, usually they always to play victim 1376 01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,960 Speaker 1: as a person who was part of a gang or 1377 01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:03,519 Speaker 1: something like that. 1378 01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:07,960 Speaker 5: Did you go through that, Well, I definitely went through that. 1379 01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:12,320 Speaker 10: I think my first interview was Detroit. The Detroit police 1380 01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:17,320 Speaker 10: detective assigned to his case. First five minutes into the conversation, 1381 01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:21,680 Speaker 10: he said, Mom, what gang did your son belonged to? 1382 01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,760 Speaker 10: And I simply said, you have the wrong file. My 1383 01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:30,800 Speaker 10: son is two, was two weeks away from leaving on 1384 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:36,840 Speaker 10: a college scholarship class university for sports. He had just 1385 01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:40,200 Speaker 10: graduated two weeks before and was on his way to, 1386 01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:45,519 Speaker 10: you know, a university in South Carolina. So the gang 1387 01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:49,720 Speaker 10: piece of it. As we continue to talk, he said, well, 1388 01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:53,839 Speaker 10: your son was a known rapper. Your son had rap songs. 1389 01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,960 Speaker 10: And I said, and so let's talk about that. The 1390 01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:04,160 Speaker 10: connection to him rapping was what they connected to gang. Okay, 1391 01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,560 Speaker 10: so if you rap, then there is some gang affiliation, 1392 01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:12,000 Speaker 10: which it absolutely is not, and it's unfortunate. And then 1393 01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,760 Speaker 10: you know, we talk about Tupac and Biggie and take 1394 01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:19,520 Speaker 10: it back that far. That is what has been connected 1395 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:23,800 Speaker 10: and associated with the rap, the rap and the gang 1396 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,559 Speaker 10: go hand in hand. I don't believe that to be true. 1397 01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:31,680 Speaker 10: I know that rap was an art started as an art. Poetry. 1398 01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:36,640 Speaker 10: Hip hop poetry is what raps background was. So to 1399 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,120 Speaker 10: connect the gang and the rap, you know, it's something 1400 01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:42,080 Speaker 10: that the police is doing, you know, in their investigation. 1401 01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:46,080 Speaker 10: But when I took the time after my son's death 1402 01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:50,160 Speaker 10: to listen to his music, there wasn't a drill message 1403 01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:54,799 Speaker 10: connected to my son. He was talking and basically spelling 1404 01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:59,320 Speaker 10: out his plans for his future when he left for college. 1405 01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:02,000 Speaker 10: That he wanted it to be an entrepreneur. He wanted 1406 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,760 Speaker 10: to be a music producer. So that's what he was 1407 01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,960 Speaker 10: saying and his messages and his music. So you know, 1408 01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:12,160 Speaker 10: it's just unfortunate that that was the route that the 1409 01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,840 Speaker 10: police wanted to take. But even in that, my question 1410 01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,800 Speaker 10: to them is, if that's what you believe, then that gives. 1411 01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:20,200 Speaker 9: You work to do. 1412 01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:24,880 Speaker 10: So let's do the work and bring people to justice. 1413 01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,679 Speaker 10: You know, bring me some justice by bringing these people 1414 01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:33,160 Speaker 10: to court and having some accountability. But you know, there's 1415 01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,519 Speaker 10: nothing for that. They said that, and now it's two 1416 01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:41,040 Speaker 10: years later and there are still no suspects, no names. 1417 01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,880 Speaker 10: I think I give the police probably more information than 1418 01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:49,960 Speaker 10: they give me because I still follow social media. I 1419 01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:53,719 Speaker 10: still look at all the things that these young people 1420 01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:56,679 Speaker 10: say and try to read through it, and I send 1421 01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:58,640 Speaker 10: it to the police. And what they do with it, 1422 01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:02,080 Speaker 10: I don't know. But as a mother, I'll keep doing 1423 01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,920 Speaker 10: my part and keep giving them anything that I think 1424 01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:08,400 Speaker 10: could possibly bring justice to my son. 1425 01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:11,800 Speaker 1: Good for you. And somebody tweeted that it could have 1426 01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:15,200 Speaker 1: been a gang initiation. Is that subject to come up 1427 01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:17,120 Speaker 1: during the discussion about the shooting. 1428 01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:23,400 Speaker 10: No, I haven't heard that. So again, he was two 1429 01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:27,840 Speaker 10: weeks away from leaving for college on a sports scholarship, 1430 01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:33,360 Speaker 10: So the gang initiation, I haven't heard that, So you know, 1431 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,800 Speaker 10: I don't I don't know that to be true, and 1432 01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,479 Speaker 10: I would just pray not I don't. 1433 01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,040 Speaker 1: You know, he's gone. That was saying that the person 1434 01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:44,519 Speaker 1: who took your son's life with you know, some of 1435 01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,680 Speaker 1: these gangs, they have to do that to get in. 1436 01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:53,960 Speaker 1: It's unfortunately, yeah, yeah, not so yeah, yeah, family, we 1437 01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,000 Speaker 1: just got to do better. I'm sorry, we just got 1438 01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,360 Speaker 1: to do better. If you're just doing us thirty minutes 1439 01:14:58,400 --> 01:14:59,960 Speaker 1: at the top of the sisters, the least your sisters 1440 01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:04,200 Speaker 1: Shashana here paring the fraternity that you know most people 1441 01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:08,080 Speaker 1: don't want to join. They're the mothers of children who've 1442 01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,800 Speaker 1: been shot and killed in our streets by people who 1443 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,519 Speaker 1: look like us, young people killing each other. This is 1444 01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:15,880 Speaker 1: a sort of attorney. So already if you will that 1445 01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:18,840 Speaker 1: you don't want to be a member of And because 1446 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:22,960 Speaker 1: of what happened, sister deleasas creating this, seize the smoke, 1447 01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:25,400 Speaker 1: stop the violence. Can you tell us about that? 1448 01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:25,920 Speaker 11: That? 1449 01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:29,920 Speaker 10: What this group that you formed, well, see the smoke 1450 01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:34,160 Speaker 10: is the nonprofit that I created in honor of my 1451 01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:38,160 Speaker 10: son's life and legacy. I was intentional with the color 1452 01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:42,839 Speaker 10: scheme for the nonprofit, black acknowledge and the stark reality 1453 01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,800 Speaker 10: and disproportionate impact of gun violence on. 1454 01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:46,599 Speaker 7: Our black youth. 1455 01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:52,439 Speaker 10: The orange serving as the bowl, unmistakable called action was 1456 01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:56,280 Speaker 10: gun violence. And then the gray embody and the solution 1457 01:15:56,520 --> 01:16:00,479 Speaker 10: through unity where you volidarity and collective action is the 1458 01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:04,120 Speaker 10: bridge that you know will transform violence and the justice. 1459 01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:09,960 Speaker 10: My mission is clear. I need to stay dedicated to 1460 01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:14,360 Speaker 10: combat and done violence, which I do through community education, 1461 01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:24,759 Speaker 10: youth outreach, and enormous advocacy efforts. You know, my commitment 1462 01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:29,200 Speaker 10: is that as his mother. I'm a survivor, a licensed therapist, 1463 01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:33,400 Speaker 10: and I'm simply committed to bring in profound death and 1464 01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:37,720 Speaker 10: autensity to this work. You know, I understand trauma and 1465 01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:41,160 Speaker 10: form care, not just on the professional side, but on 1466 01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:46,719 Speaker 10: the personal side. My lived experience combined with clinical knowledge 1467 01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:50,600 Speaker 10: is why I feel Seize the Smoke is the organization 1468 01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:56,240 Speaker 10: position to serve and supports survivors, families and youth. And 1469 01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,920 Speaker 10: as Mama Shashana said, you know, when we say survivors, 1470 01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,880 Speaker 10: most people think we're talking about the mom, the dad, 1471 01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:07,479 Speaker 10: the siblings. But I lost a son, but I probably 1472 01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:14,439 Speaker 10: gain fifty maybe more. I am doing direct work. I've 1473 01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:18,920 Speaker 10: pulled these young people in to Seize the Smoke organization. 1474 01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:24,839 Speaker 10: They're my youth ambassadors. Yeah, I'm gonna keep them focused 1475 01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:28,680 Speaker 10: and do the work their survivors, but in a different light. 1476 01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,560 Speaker 10: And if we don't get in front of them and 1477 01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:35,240 Speaker 10: grab their hands and walk them through and pull them through, 1478 01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:40,960 Speaker 10: they'll go backwards. And unfortunately, in my work speaking with 1479 01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:46,360 Speaker 10: young men who acknowledge and admit to gang involvement, when 1480 01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:51,080 Speaker 10: you ask the why, ninety nine percent of them have 1481 01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:55,759 Speaker 10: lost a family member or close friend to gun violence 1482 01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:01,559 Speaker 10: and that was their retaliation. That's their get back, right. 1483 01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:05,040 Speaker 1: It's just because I know you want to say something. 1484 01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:10,000 Speaker 9: Go ahead, Okay, I just wanted to add. Lisa is 1485 01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:13,320 Speaker 9: doing so much. She can't even begin to tell you 1486 01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:15,559 Speaker 9: all of what she's doing. I'm so proud of her. 1487 01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:22,439 Speaker 9: With Seeds the Smoke, she organized basket Her son was 1488 01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:25,720 Speaker 9: an athlete during his high school years. He was the 1489 01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:31,400 Speaker 9: top very good athlete. So she is organized basketball games 1490 01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:39,080 Speaker 9: baseball where they give out gym shoes to the students 1491 01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:42,599 Speaker 9: who come, the young people who come, and the kids 1492 01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:48,680 Speaker 9: play the game. Sometimes they'll play against older adults and 1493 01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:53,120 Speaker 9: sometimes they'll play against each other. But and then, uh, 1494 01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:57,880 Speaker 9: they raise money through these events to give out scholarships. 1495 01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,000 Speaker 9: She mentioned to you that her son was on his 1496 01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:05,960 Speaker 9: way to Klassland University with a scholarship. What happened to 1497 01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,600 Speaker 9: that scholarship? You know what happened to the scholarship? 1498 01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:08,920 Speaker 1: Carl. 1499 01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:13,960 Speaker 9: Lisa asked the president of the school, the dean or whatever, 1500 01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:20,800 Speaker 9: to give that scholarship to another young man from preferably 1501 01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:26,679 Speaker 9: from Detroit who could use that scholarship. And that did happen. 1502 01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:30,320 Speaker 9: That young man stays in touch with Lisa and in 1503 01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:34,839 Speaker 9: addition to that scholarship. Like I said, Lisa is giving events, 1504 01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:39,640 Speaker 9: raising funds to give scholarships to others. And then just 1505 01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:41,920 Speaker 9: one other thing I wanted to touch on when she 1506 01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:46,639 Speaker 9: talks about her experience, and that goes back to everything 1507 01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:51,160 Speaker 9: happens for a reason. She's a clinical therapist. Lisa, even 1508 01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:55,480 Speaker 9: during one of the basketball games that she had organized, 1509 01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:59,479 Speaker 9: we heard about a young man who was actually I 1510 01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:05,000 Speaker 9: think someone else in the family knew this young man's 1511 01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:09,240 Speaker 9: family who was killed. I believe Lisa could tell the stories. 1512 01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:10,040 Speaker 5: I believe he was. 1513 01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:14,680 Speaker 9: Killed that day, maybe even during the time that the 1514 01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:18,799 Speaker 9: game was being play, and Lisa reached out to that family, 1515 01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:24,080 Speaker 9: that mother. She has reached out to so many mothers 1516 01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:28,559 Speaker 9: who have lost their children since she's lost her child. 1517 01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:36,280 Speaker 9: So sees the smoke is definitely a miracle. I say 1518 01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:40,200 Speaker 9: it's a miracle and that we need to support it. 1519 01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:44,040 Speaker 1: I having talking about support. Are you getting so? Are 1520 01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,719 Speaker 1: you getting any support from anybody in the Detroit Greater 1521 01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:47,519 Speaker 1: Detroit area. 1522 01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,960 Speaker 10: I get tremendous support from the cv I organizations, which 1523 01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:59,720 Speaker 10: are the crime violence interrupters, and they're all under the 1524 01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:05,160 Speaker 10: Detroit Police Department and Mayor's Office. They're a sign and 1525 01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:09,639 Speaker 10: purpose to work in certain zip codes within the city. 1526 01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:13,880 Speaker 10: But I get tremendous support. They reached out. They have 1527 01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:17,639 Speaker 10: paid for the anti violence games that I've done. One 1528 01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:21,080 Speaker 10: of the organizations just paid for me to attend a 1529 01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:27,639 Speaker 10: national Survivor network in Louisville, Kentucky, where I was there 1530 01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:31,479 Speaker 10: with thirteen hundred other mothers and fathers who had lost 1531 01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:36,639 Speaker 10: their children, specifically to gun violence. So that I'm getting 1532 01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:40,120 Speaker 10: the support there. I'm getting the support on the the 1533 01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:45,759 Speaker 10: you know, city side through those organizations. Those organizations connect 1534 01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:49,400 Speaker 10: me with mothers. There's many calls I get where I'm 1535 01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:53,120 Speaker 10: actually going out to the scene before a body is 1536 01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:58,080 Speaker 10: even removed, you know, from the city officials, and I'm 1537 01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:01,920 Speaker 10: grabbing that mother, having that mother's hand. I'm taking that 1538 01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:05,400 Speaker 10: mother right there on the spot. This is not anything 1539 01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,280 Speaker 10: I read, This is not anything somebody told me to do. 1540 01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:12,000 Speaker 10: It's something I need to do and we'll keep doing 1541 01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,320 Speaker 10: to be there for another mother. 1542 01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:18,679 Speaker 1: Wow, that's powerful what you just said. 1543 01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:27,160 Speaker 9: Please, Carl, They're across the country. I would propose to. 1544 01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:29,519 Speaker 1: Hold that thought right there, Sister Sashana, we gotta check 1545 01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,120 Speaker 1: take a last look at the news. I'll let you 1546 01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:32,800 Speaker 1: explain that when we come back with You're right, because 1547 01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,960 Speaker 1: the Treyvon Martin's family has one in Miami, there's one, 1548 01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,920 Speaker 1: there's another group. It does the same thing in DC 1549 01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,800 Speaker 1: and also in Baltimore, most of what our major cities. Family, 1550 01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:43,600 Speaker 1: you want to join this conversation with our guests of 1551 01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,800 Speaker 1: the sisters Shashana and sisters Delisa. If both of them 1552 01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,240 Speaker 1: are lost their children to gang street gang violence by 1553 01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,280 Speaker 1: the hands of somebody looks like us, We've just got 1554 01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:53,560 Speaker 1: to do better. I'm sorry, family, we just got to 1555 01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,920 Speaker 1: do better. Reach out to us though, and help these 1556 01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,679 Speaker 1: sisters out at eight hundred four or five zero seventy 1557 01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:01,160 Speaker 1: eight seventy six and we'll take phone calls after the news. 1558 01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:04,240 Speaker 1: The Snags and Grand Rising family thanks us to starting 1559 01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:06,680 Speaker 1: your Tuesday with us fifteen minutes away from the top 1560 01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:09,280 Speaker 1: of there with two sisters from Detroit activist sisters. Sister 1561 01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:12,799 Speaker 1: Sashana Shako. You've heard her here several times, also Delisa 1562 01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:16,200 Speaker 1: galafiees Israelis as well. And the thing they have in common, 1563 01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:19,880 Speaker 1: both of them have lost their children, young children to violence, 1564 01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:23,480 Speaker 1: street gang violence. And this is what we're discussing. Delisa's 1565 01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:26,200 Speaker 1: actually what she says, is turn her pain into purpose 1566 01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:28,200 Speaker 1: and power. Before we go back to ear let me 1567 01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:29,960 Speaker 1: just remind you come up lated this morning and speak 1568 01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:32,000 Speaker 1: with the founder of the Black Lawyers for Justice that'll 1569 01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:34,599 Speaker 1: been atturning, Malik Shabaz and later this week and hear 1570 01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:36,960 Speaker 1: from chair and Fred Hampton. Also the master teacher, brother 1571 01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,519 Speaker 1: Astra a Quasi will be here and doctor Saby's son 1572 01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,360 Speaker 1: Abdullah Wilso Jonash. So, if you're in Baltimore, make sure 1573 01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:44,280 Speaker 1: you keep you out the radio. Lockdown tight on ten 1574 01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:48,160 Speaker 1: ten WLB in the DMV run fourteen fifteen w L. 1575 01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,280 Speaker 1: So let's let's go back to this. This what you 1576 01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:56,400 Speaker 1: formed too is the pain? Who called it seize the smoke? 1577 01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,960 Speaker 1: And this you created this a few months after your 1578 01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:03,800 Speaker 1: son was murdered. What was it thinking? You know what 1579 01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,360 Speaker 1: it happened when you had to do something with that pain? 1580 01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,040 Speaker 1: How did you? How do you create? What went into 1581 01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:11,120 Speaker 1: creating this particular program? 1582 01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:19,520 Speaker 10: I was contacted by one of the crime violence intervention 1583 01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:24,639 Speaker 10: organizations in the city, and that organization was the People's 1584 01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:31,200 Speaker 10: Community and megaz Vu is their CEO. He said, you 1585 01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:35,160 Speaker 10: know what can we help you with, sister to keep 1586 01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:39,719 Speaker 10: your son's legacy, you know, moving forward. And they asked 1587 01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,960 Speaker 10: me different ideas about, you know what, who my son was. 1588 01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:45,360 Speaker 10: I think that was the first question, Who was your son? 1589 01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:48,680 Speaker 10: And when I talked about the different things he was 1590 01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:52,639 Speaker 10: involved in, the different things he had or was looking 1591 01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:59,800 Speaker 10: forward to, and his journey education wise, rat wise, athletic wise, 1592 01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,800 Speaker 10: he said, let's put all that together and come up 1593 01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:04,800 Speaker 10: with an organization. 1594 01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:04,960 Speaker 12: To help you. 1595 01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:08,080 Speaker 10: Your son is not here, but you can keep all 1596 01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:11,960 Speaker 10: of those things moving forward and alive, you know, for 1597 01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:15,920 Speaker 10: other young people. And that's what I did, and that's 1598 01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:20,280 Speaker 10: what I'm doing. The hard part is the funding, which 1599 01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:24,840 Speaker 10: is why I reached out to you, mister Nelson, to ask, 1600 01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:27,560 Speaker 10: you know that I could at least speak about the 1601 01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:32,559 Speaker 10: organization on given Tuesday. Given Tuesday is the one day 1602 01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:36,120 Speaker 10: of the year where you know, organizations such as Sees 1603 01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:42,280 Speaker 10: of Smoke reach out to the mass public, business owners, entrepreneurs, 1604 01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:47,200 Speaker 10: community leaders and say, hey, you know, could you donate 1605 01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:51,760 Speaker 10: and allow organizations like Sees of Smoke to keep going, 1606 01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:55,120 Speaker 10: to keep moving, because that's that's what it's going to take. 1607 01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:56,240 Speaker 4: You know. 1608 01:25:56,439 --> 01:26:00,240 Speaker 10: The whole issue with justice on the legal side right 1609 01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:06,559 Speaker 10: not yet being happening. Let's say but the work, I'm 1610 01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:10,800 Speaker 10: still gonna do the work. Even the work won't bring 1611 01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:14,120 Speaker 10: my son back, but the work allows me to reach 1612 01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:18,160 Speaker 10: out and reach in to other survivors, both young people 1613 01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:23,200 Speaker 10: and parents as well. Mama Shashana mentioned one of the 1614 01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:26,720 Speaker 10: anti violence games, the very first one that we gave 1615 01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:30,800 Speaker 10: in Khalil's honor, and that day a thirteen year old 1616 01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:35,600 Speaker 10: were killed, shot and killed at our state fair in 1617 01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:41,560 Speaker 10: the Nova area, right outside of Detroit, and I was 1618 01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:46,200 Speaker 10: so hurt. His brother was playing in the basketball game, 1619 01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:53,200 Speaker 10: representing one of the areas where there's high game presence, 1620 01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:57,439 Speaker 10: and that organization brought a group of youth to the 1621 01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:01,920 Speaker 10: game and allowed them to play the game, saying, you know, 1622 01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:04,960 Speaker 10: this is more to us than the gang activity, and 1623 01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:07,519 Speaker 10: here we want to contribute. We want to be a 1624 01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:12,080 Speaker 10: part of an organization that does what you're doing. But 1625 01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:15,920 Speaker 10: that same day, the thirteen year old little brother of 1626 01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:18,640 Speaker 10: one of the players was shot and killed at our 1627 01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:24,679 Speaker 10: state fair. So you know it's ongoing. We know death 1628 01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:30,560 Speaker 10: is inevitable, but this madness, this game, this shooting, this 1629 01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:35,000 Speaker 10: gun violence has to stop, and it will. It will, 1630 01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:38,280 Speaker 10: but it's going to take work, a lot of work, 1631 01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:43,080 Speaker 10: continuous work, and every chance I get, I try to 1632 01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:48,240 Speaker 10: add another mother, another survivor to my network so that 1633 01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:53,120 Speaker 10: we together can fill in the gray area and do 1634 01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:57,960 Speaker 10: what's necessary to save another life. And that's what I'm 1635 01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:00,280 Speaker 10: working towards. That will continue to. 1636 01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,160 Speaker 1: Work to it, and we're going to try and help 1637 01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:05,640 Speaker 1: you as much as we can assisted that, Lisa. You know, 1638 01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:08,680 Speaker 1: as I mentioned, the Master Teacher as question, is going 1639 01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:10,880 Speaker 1: to be with us litter this week and his his things. 1640 01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:12,720 Speaker 1: This is when it comes to issues like this is 1641 01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,000 Speaker 1: just our problem is maybe it's just as Shawna, you 1642 01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:16,479 Speaker 1: can comment on this. He says, we don't know who 1643 01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:19,800 Speaker 1: we are. You know, the self hate and we see 1644 01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,679 Speaker 1: it manifested too in adults. Right now, there's a class 1645 01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:25,400 Speaker 1: going on with adults fighting each other all based on 1646 01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:29,680 Speaker 1: self hate. Doctor fox Will tells that they're addicted to 1647 01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:31,960 Speaker 1: white and so one of the things they're beefing each other. 1648 01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:34,920 Speaker 1: They're doing it in the churches. They do it at 1649 01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:37,920 Speaker 1: all different levels. But and the children, the young people 1650 01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,160 Speaker 1: see it so and they then they act out as well. 1651 01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:43,639 Speaker 1: So it's just as as Shawna, what if you could 1652 01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:47,120 Speaker 1: come up with a remedy, because it's all about they 1653 01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:48,519 Speaker 1: don't know who they are, because if they know who 1654 01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:51,080 Speaker 1: they are, you would not injure or want to hurt 1655 01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:55,400 Speaker 1: another person, whether they be physically, mentally, emotionally, on all levels, 1656 01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,280 Speaker 1: because because you don't you love, you're supposed to love 1657 01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:01,559 Speaker 1: that person. How can we get that message across, especially 1658 01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:02,360 Speaker 1: to our young people. 1659 01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:08,640 Speaker 9: Well, thank you for asking that question, brother Carl. I 1660 01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:15,320 Speaker 9: mean it all goes back again to education. We've been miseducated, 1661 01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:22,040 Speaker 9: you know, and when are we gonna become educated? Malcolm, 1662 01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:26,320 Speaker 9: I beloved Malcolm said, education is the key, you know 1663 01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:27,160 Speaker 9: for us as. 1664 01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:27,559 Speaker 6: A grown up. 1665 01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:32,280 Speaker 9: We we we have been miseducated, some of us. But 1666 01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:35,960 Speaker 9: the children, we have to start with the little ones. 1667 01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:40,360 Speaker 9: You start there, but simultaneously you work with the ones 1668 01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:44,320 Speaker 9: deleased is working with. We have to let them know 1669 01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:48,880 Speaker 9: they came from kings and queens. You know that that 1670 01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:51,920 Speaker 9: myth is still out there, the tired of hand myth 1671 01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:57,320 Speaker 9: and uncivilized. Why where they have raped and pil pilfridge 1672 01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:04,160 Speaker 9: Africa the continent almost many many of the countries over there, 1673 01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:08,519 Speaker 9: and and they're you know, still doing it today. So 1674 01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:15,240 Speaker 9: but we were the first civilization, So Molly somenhai Donna, 1675 01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:21,160 Speaker 9: we were the first civilizations. We created agriculture. M Hotel 1676 01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:23,639 Speaker 9: created medicine before. 1677 01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:25,640 Speaker 4: What's that? 1678 01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:30,720 Speaker 9: Oh, the doctors take the hypocratic critic obum where they 1679 01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:34,759 Speaker 9: claim that the Greek uh invented medicine. No he didn't. 1680 01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:40,680 Speaker 9: M Hotel created medicine. But see, these children don't learn it. 1681 01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:46,920 Speaker 9: They it's not reiterated in their lives. And some people 1682 01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:50,599 Speaker 9: might say, well, well, Mama, Shushina. You know, nobody's gonna 1683 01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:51,439 Speaker 9: sit and listen to that. 1684 01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:52,479 Speaker 5: You have to. 1685 01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:54,800 Speaker 9: It has to become a way of life where they 1686 01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:58,599 Speaker 9: understand how great we are. And right now, you brother 1687 01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:03,600 Speaker 9: Carol and I know that not only our legacy and 1688 01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:10,040 Speaker 9: history trying to you know, be destroyed by mego Republicans 1689 01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:17,280 Speaker 9: and the so called president, but they're destroying the elected officials, 1690 01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:20,360 Speaker 9: Black elected officials. 1691 01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:20,559 Speaker 7: One by one. 1692 01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:23,400 Speaker 9: They're going after them. And we have to have that 1693 01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:26,160 Speaker 9: talk because my nephew is one of them, the former 1694 01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:28,280 Speaker 9: mayor of Jackson, Mississippi. 1695 01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:32,160 Speaker 13: But that makes sense when you look. 1696 01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:34,759 Speaker 9: You know, I said, well, why this got to stop? 1697 01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:38,000 Speaker 9: Why why are they still doing this? But it does 1698 01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:42,360 Speaker 9: make sense somewhat. When you hate yourself, when you think 1699 01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:46,160 Speaker 9: your people are not good people, and when you turn 1700 01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:50,439 Speaker 9: on the news on a daily basis. You hear about 1701 01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:54,439 Speaker 9: black kids killing black kids. You don't hear about the 1702 01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:57,839 Speaker 9: white kids killing white I was a juvenile probation officer, 1703 01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:01,360 Speaker 9: and they certainly do kill white just like the President. 1704 01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:04,519 Speaker 9: And this might be apples and oranges, but the so 1705 01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:07,880 Speaker 9: called president cut off snap. 1706 01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:09,400 Speaker 5: Food sources for people. 1707 01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:14,400 Speaker 9: But it's more white folks getting them sources that get 1708 01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:18,840 Speaker 9: than we are. So they have to be educated. They 1709 01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:21,280 Speaker 9: have to learn the truth. They have to learn who 1710 01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:24,760 Speaker 9: we are, who they are, where we came from. And 1711 01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:28,479 Speaker 9: that is a start, that is a very good start. 1712 01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:31,480 Speaker 4: And they have to provide. 1713 01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:36,560 Speaker 9: Training for these young people. Everybody does not want to 1714 01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:38,320 Speaker 9: become a doctor or a lawyer. 1715 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:40,000 Speaker 7: When I was. 1716 01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:43,120 Speaker 9: Growing up, I don't know how it was in Maryland 1717 01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:47,599 Speaker 9: and other places, but we had vocational centers where people 1718 01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:50,920 Speaker 9: learn the trade, where they would be able to come 1719 01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:54,560 Speaker 9: out of high school and they could be get a 1720 01:32:54,800 --> 01:33:01,920 Speaker 9: plumbing apprenticeship, mechanic and things of that. Now these kids 1721 01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:06,439 Speaker 9: have to be prepared for all sorts of work and 1722 01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:08,200 Speaker 9: and our life. 1723 01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:10,920 Speaker 4: That's what that's what I think A good. 1724 01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:13,400 Speaker 1: Point five away from the top of that. That's Sister Sashana, 1725 01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:16,160 Speaker 1: Sisters Delisha's with us and she's created a group called 1726 01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:19,920 Speaker 1: Seize the Smoke. She attempt is to stop the violence 1727 01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:22,280 Speaker 1: in our inner cities with our children. It's in Detroit, 1728 01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:25,800 Speaker 1: but the story can be replicated in just about every 1729 01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:29,400 Speaker 1: major urban city, not just in this country, but across 1730 01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:32,639 Speaker 1: the world. Too, young black man sharing another black man 1731 01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:36,599 Speaker 1: self hate and they and they're being used and don't know. Family, 1732 01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:38,920 Speaker 1: We got too many people against us for us to 1733 01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:42,800 Speaker 1: be fighting against each other. Straight up. You know, they 1734 01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:46,840 Speaker 1: loved when they see this. They're they're appreciating this conversation now, 1735 01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:50,080 Speaker 1: but they they don't appreciate that we're waking people up. 1736 01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:53,080 Speaker 1: But they like to see another black person attack another 1737 01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:55,479 Speaker 1: black person, whether it be taking him out or cussing 1738 01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:57,479 Speaker 1: them out, or doing all kinds of stuff. So as 1739 01:33:57,520 --> 01:33:59,160 Speaker 1: you do that, you're doing the work of the oppressor. 1740 01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:02,360 Speaker 1: So as how do we get that message across to 1741 01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:03,080 Speaker 1: our young people. 1742 01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:09,320 Speaker 10: Yeah, they have to see more and hear more from people. 1743 01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:12,080 Speaker 10: I think I heard during the commercial break that you 1744 01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:18,000 Speaker 10: have brother Malik Shabbaz coming on your show soon. It's 1745 01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:22,760 Speaker 10: brothers like Malik that I know give messages and have 1746 01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:26,960 Speaker 10: a life. You know, he represents the life that need. 1747 01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:30,160 Speaker 10: These kids need to see not the gang bang in life, 1748 01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:34,200 Speaker 10: but the conscious life, the life that shows the history 1749 01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:38,040 Speaker 10: and all of the progress that we made, as sister 1750 01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:40,720 Speaker 10: Shushina was talking about. But these are the people that 1751 01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:42,840 Speaker 10: need to get in front of these kids. You have 1752 01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:47,000 Speaker 10: the CBI organizations who are working on stopping the violence, 1753 01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:52,479 Speaker 10: and you know, demanding and promoting the message put the 1754 01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:56,080 Speaker 10: gun down, right, But when you're saying put the gun down, 1755 01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:59,680 Speaker 10: what's there for them to pick up in place of 1756 01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:03,200 Speaker 10: the gun. And that's what we need, our black brothers 1757 01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:07,320 Speaker 10: and sisters to get the message across. Once the gun, 1758 01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:10,560 Speaker 10: once you've committed to putting the gun down, this is 1759 01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:13,000 Speaker 10: how we're going to feel your time. And these are 1760 01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:16,720 Speaker 10: the things that are out there for you to do 1761 01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,360 Speaker 10: and place us. That's that's what we need to do. 1762 01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:20,320 Speaker 3: All right. 1763 01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:21,560 Speaker 1: Hold up though, right there, We're got to check the 1764 01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:23,960 Speaker 1: trafficking weather one more time. It's raining in parts of 1765 01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:26,640 Speaker 1: the DMV family. You drive safely out there, hitting the 1766 01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:28,920 Speaker 1: roads three minutes away from the top there. Our sisters, 1767 01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:33,360 Speaker 1: Delasia's sister Shashana out of Detroit. They've created an organization 1768 01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:36,200 Speaker 1: called Caesar Smoke to stop this is the violence alongst 1769 01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:38,280 Speaker 1: our young people. Both of them have lost children to 1770 01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:40,760 Speaker 1: streak gang violence by the hands of another black person. 1771 01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:42,519 Speaker 1: We've got to do better. What are your thoughts? You 1772 01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:45,840 Speaker 1: want to join this conversation with us, reach out to 1773 01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:49,160 Speaker 1: us at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy 1774 01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:50,920 Speaker 1: sixth we'll take a phone calls after the traffic and 1775 01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:53,880 Speaker 1: weather that's next, and Grand Rising family, thanks for rolling 1776 01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:56,080 Speaker 1: with us on this Tuesday morning here too. After the 1777 01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:58,479 Speaker 1: top there I was the two sisters from Detroit, sister 1778 01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:02,759 Speaker 1: Deleasa's sister Shashana. They've created an organization to help mothers 1779 01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:05,080 Speaker 1: who have lost their children to street gang violence. Both 1780 01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:07,719 Speaker 1: of them have lost their children to street gang violence. 1781 01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:11,040 Speaker 1: And this is what sister Delisa says. It's turned her 1782 01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:14,720 Speaker 1: pain into power and purpose. I got a tweek question 1783 01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:17,800 Speaker 1: for you, ladies, and the person says, as a black mother, 1784 01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:21,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate what you sisters are doing, but this killer 1785 01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:23,479 Speaker 1: needs to be arrested because if this was a gang 1786 01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:25,960 Speaker 1: initiation and he's still out there, he will kill again. 1787 01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:30,320 Speaker 1: And my question to you, the sister Delicia, if you 1788 01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:33,320 Speaker 1: had a chance to if say this dude, this young 1789 01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:36,880 Speaker 1: man is probably another young man hopefully you know it's 1790 01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:39,760 Speaker 1: not another sister who you know fire the shot. But 1791 01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:42,600 Speaker 1: if you had a chance to talk to it, what 1792 01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:43,280 Speaker 1: would you say. 1793 01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:49,360 Speaker 10: Well, first, because of the police report and the information 1794 01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:52,519 Speaker 10: I got from not only the police but the medical examiner, 1795 01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:57,920 Speaker 10: there were at least three shooters. The bullets my son 1796 01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:01,920 Speaker 10: was shot, there were nineteen bullets. There were nineteen shots 1797 01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:06,680 Speaker 10: fired at the vehicle my son was driving, and eleven 1798 01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:11,160 Speaker 10: hit my son. And because of due to the findings 1799 01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:15,760 Speaker 10: from the police, they came from three different weapons. So 1800 01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:19,479 Speaker 10: that's one that makes it even bigger and more scary 1801 01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:22,760 Speaker 10: that I would not be having a conversation with one 1802 01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:27,680 Speaker 10: young man, not two young men, with three young men that, 1803 01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:34,759 Speaker 10: for whatever reason, gang initiative or otherwise, were okay killing 1804 01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:40,599 Speaker 10: another young brother. Right, So my thought and my words 1805 01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:44,240 Speaker 10: to them wouldn't be why, because I don't know that 1806 01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:48,760 Speaker 10: the why is what they're ready to answer. But how 1807 01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:54,120 Speaker 10: how can we make this difference? What is it that 1808 01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:58,880 Speaker 10: you miss or what is it you need to pull 1809 01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:01,760 Speaker 10: you away from it to not make this part of 1810 01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:05,880 Speaker 10: your every day? You wake up, you get a gun, 1811 01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:09,760 Speaker 10: you go out with a plan to take another life. 1812 01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:14,320 Speaker 10: What is it I can do for you. What is 1813 01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:18,400 Speaker 10: it the community can do for you, starting with your 1814 01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:22,120 Speaker 10: own household, your parents. What is it that we need 1815 01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:27,280 Speaker 10: to pour in to you to stop the plan to 1816 01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:29,800 Speaker 10: take the gun and go out and take another life? 1817 01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:36,640 Speaker 1: And they know the life they took. That person has 1818 01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:41,439 Speaker 1: a mother, just like they have a mother. Yep, But 1819 01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:43,639 Speaker 1: how do we get that message across to our young people? 1820 01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:46,240 Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is a serious problem family. 1821 01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:49,120 Speaker 1: Here's the deal. The other folks are not gonna solve it. 1822 01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:51,439 Speaker 1: Let me tell you again, the other folks are not 1823 01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:54,000 Speaker 1: gonna solve it. This problem is cry describing with our 1824 01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:56,160 Speaker 1: young people. We're gonna have to solve the problem. We're 1825 01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:58,360 Speaker 1: gonna have to step up. I don't know how we're 1826 01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:00,920 Speaker 1: gonna do it. I don't have the ends, but I'm 1827 01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:02,360 Speaker 1: putting it out there because I know we've got some 1828 01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:04,880 Speaker 1: brilliant people listening to this program who can come up 1829 01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:06,960 Speaker 1: with ideas. We do it for other folks, who've got 1830 01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:08,920 Speaker 1: to start doing it for ourselves. A lot of times 1831 01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:10,880 Speaker 1: with the people with the great ideas, you know that 1832 01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:12,680 Speaker 1: they don't live in the inner city. They moved out 1833 01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:15,120 Speaker 1: and basically they're addicted to white Now, I want to 1834 01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:16,760 Speaker 1: say all of them are, but some of them, you know, 1835 01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:20,000 Speaker 1: that conscience, will will think about they come back to 1836 01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:22,080 Speaker 1: the neighborhoods that they grew up with and see the 1837 01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:25,320 Speaker 1: things is going on. It seems going unchecked because again 1838 01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:27,680 Speaker 1: the other folks they're happy there's one less one of 1839 01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:29,840 Speaker 1: us they have to deal with. We're doing the work 1840 01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:32,519 Speaker 1: for them. We've got we've just got to do better. 1841 01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:37,240 Speaker 1: Sister Shashana, you know, having this this this conversations with 1842 01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:39,519 Speaker 1: these young people, because you guys work with both young people, 1843 01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:43,479 Speaker 1: how do you approach them? Are they approachable? Are they 1844 01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:45,719 Speaker 1: Are they willing and eager to hear this kind of stuff? 1845 01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:51,480 Speaker 9: M hm, Well, I think Lisa expressed with her experience 1846 01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:53,640 Speaker 9: that you know, a lot of them like you know, 1847 01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:57,000 Speaker 9: I'm not going to talk to you about that, but 1848 01:39:57,360 --> 01:40:01,320 Speaker 9: but just in general conversation, if you walk into a 1849 01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:07,000 Speaker 9: classroom or into a group setting, some of them will 1850 01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:11,640 Speaker 9: definitely talk about it, most of them will will not, 1851 01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:15,479 Speaker 9: some of them will listen. And then of course, depending 1852 01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:20,160 Speaker 9: on what you know a room you walk into, what 1853 01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:24,120 Speaker 9: type of meeting it is, some of them may make 1854 01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:29,040 Speaker 9: fun and laugh and you know, but so yeah, some 1855 01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:33,640 Speaker 9: will be receptive of it, and some want. But that 1856 01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:37,479 Speaker 9: doesn't matter because I've always said, as a former teacher, 1857 01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:40,960 Speaker 9: I've always said, if I have thirty five students in 1858 01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:46,200 Speaker 9: the classroom, and if I can reach two of them, 1859 01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:48,120 Speaker 9: if I can reach five of them, I mean, if 1860 01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:51,479 Speaker 9: I'm doing my job, I should reach all thirty five hopefully, 1861 01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:56,040 Speaker 9: but just reaching some of them, that's the point. You 1862 01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:59,920 Speaker 9: can't get everyone, but you just and I think Lisa 1863 01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:03,920 Speaker 9: alluded to it or you know, refer to it that 1864 01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:10,040 Speaker 9: you you know, you take things as every day right, 1865 01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:12,280 Speaker 9: and and the other thing I wanted to. 1866 01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:17,000 Speaker 13: Say about these young people is that they've lost hope. Also, 1867 01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:22,320 Speaker 13: teaching the students who act up the most, I would 1868 01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:25,080 Speaker 13: always sometimes walk up to them and give them a hug, 1869 01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:28,679 Speaker 13: or I would put them on front and in front 1870 01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:31,599 Speaker 13: of the class. Baby, come come up here and let 1871 01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:32,320 Speaker 13: me give you a hug. 1872 01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:33,200 Speaker 11: You need some love. 1873 01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:37,160 Speaker 9: Okay. I was, you know, trying to make a point. 1874 01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:40,880 Speaker 9: And the point is that the kids who come and 1875 01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:45,000 Speaker 9: act out, there's somebody acting out in their homes. 1876 01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:46,240 Speaker 5: They're coming. 1877 01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:49,040 Speaker 9: So when your question just a few minutes ago, how 1878 01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:49,840 Speaker 9: do you reach them? 1879 01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:51,200 Speaker 4: What do you do? Well? 1880 01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:54,680 Speaker 9: You got to reach the parents too. These kids just 1881 01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:59,479 Speaker 9: didn't grow up all on their own and become the 1882 01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:04,560 Speaker 9: way they Other people are responsible for that. And you know, 1883 01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:09,120 Speaker 9: like Lisa and I both have sons that were killt Okay. 1884 01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:13,479 Speaker 9: And I told the officer and my son's case, well, 1885 01:42:13,640 --> 01:42:16,519 Speaker 9: because it was similar to Lisa, and we have to 1886 01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:20,479 Speaker 9: have this conversation another day because my son was out 1887 01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:23,840 Speaker 9: in the street. He wasn't like Lisa's son. He wasn't 1888 01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:27,600 Speaker 9: eighteen year old getting ready to go to college, So 1889 01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:30,840 Speaker 9: we'll have that conversation. But he didn't have a gun 1890 01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:34,080 Speaker 9: and he wasn't trying to kill anyone. And I said, well, 1891 01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:38,439 Speaker 9: the kids who are out here walking around with guns 1892 01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:43,480 Speaker 9: and killing people, what's the difference in appearance and the upbringing? 1893 01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:45,240 Speaker 7: What is going on here? 1894 01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:49,720 Speaker 9: Where is the morality? How come these kids don't know 1895 01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:54,160 Speaker 9: that a human life is valuable or care? And then 1896 01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:58,200 Speaker 9: I'm gonna end it with this one juvenile probationer that 1897 01:42:58,320 --> 01:43:01,240 Speaker 9: I worked with. I used to have them do a 1898 01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:05,560 Speaker 9: lesson when they first got on my case row and 1899 01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:08,880 Speaker 9: I would tell them to write a little three paragraph 1900 01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:13,040 Speaker 9: little essay as to what they planned to do ten 1901 01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:16,120 Speaker 9: years for now. And so those juveniles they would come 1902 01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:18,679 Speaker 9: to me to sell as young as seven. I wouldn't 1903 01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:22,639 Speaker 9: have them do it, but the average age were thirteen, 1904 01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:26,800 Speaker 9: fourteen year old, fifteen. So this one young man, he 1905 01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:30,960 Speaker 9: was about fourteen, and when I asked him, where was 1906 01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:34,800 Speaker 9: his essay When he came back, he said, well, I 1907 01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:37,120 Speaker 9: didn't feel like doing it. Well why So we had 1908 01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:39,880 Speaker 9: a conversation and then he said, well, what's the point. 1909 01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:42,960 Speaker 9: I won't be here ten years from now. And to 1910 01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:47,120 Speaker 9: me to have a fourteen year old kid tell you 1911 01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:49,160 Speaker 9: he's not going to be here ten. 1912 01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:54,880 Speaker 1: Years from that, wow, Wow, that's just sad. That's yeah. 1913 01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:58,240 Speaker 1: But you talked about the parents, the adults. We've got 1914 01:43:58,280 --> 01:44:01,400 Speaker 1: to stop the fighting too, and the internet because they 1915 01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:03,759 Speaker 1: see us back and forth. This all the self hate 1916 01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:07,160 Speaker 1: back and forth, the adults arguing with each other. They're 1917 01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:10,080 Speaker 1: mimicking what they see their parents, what the adults are doing. 1918 01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:13,040 Speaker 1: At some point, somebody could be got to be they say, hey, 1919 01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:16,200 Speaker 1: this self hate, it's not working. We're just playing into 1920 01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:18,280 Speaker 1: the hands of the oppressor. Because as long as we're 1921 01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:21,559 Speaker 1: taking each other out, fighting each other. And doctor Welson 1922 01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:24,240 Speaker 1: teaches us about this, that's a good for them. That's 1923 01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:26,960 Speaker 1: less work for them to do because we're doing their work. 1924 01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:29,840 Speaker 1: So if you ladies can get that information out to 1925 01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:32,360 Speaker 1: our young brothers and sisters out there who may be 1926 01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:35,800 Speaker 1: prone to get into the street life and telling us 1927 01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:38,720 Speaker 1: another way and teach them. As Astroquation when he comes 1928 01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:41,160 Speaker 1: on later this week, was going to teach us about 1929 01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:43,920 Speaker 1: our history. Well you know we didn't. We didn't come 1930 01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:48,000 Speaker 1: here with Our history doesn't start on these shores, as 1931 01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:51,679 Speaker 1: you'd already know mentioned sister Shashana. Our history started back 1932 01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:54,639 Speaker 1: on the continent, and that's where we have to go back. 1933 01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:57,160 Speaker 1: We have to go back and show them who they are, 1934 01:44:57,360 --> 01:44:59,920 Speaker 1: what they come from, the greatness that's in their dem 1935 01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:02,519 Speaker 1: and a that it can aspire to. So this is 1936 01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:04,240 Speaker 1: and let me get off my soapbox, cause we got 1937 01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:07,640 Speaker 1: the tourny Releek waiting for us. But before I let you, 1938 01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:10,519 Speaker 1: sisters go though, how can folks help you? Because you 1939 01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:13,080 Speaker 1: know you're doing this and I know, but you gotta 1940 01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:15,960 Speaker 1: you gotta get some help. How can people help you? 1941 01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:18,160 Speaker 1: Is there a website a phone number where people can 1942 01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:20,320 Speaker 1: help it? Because we've got somewhere, We've we've got to 1943 01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:22,400 Speaker 1: we've got to stop it. We just got to do better. 1944 01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:24,880 Speaker 1: We just got to stop this self hate. So so, uh, 1945 01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:27,280 Speaker 1: sister Delisa, how can how can we reach you? And 1946 01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:30,960 Speaker 1: how can we Is there a website? Email addresses something there? 1947 01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:33,960 Speaker 10: Definitely sees the smoke has a website. It sees the 1948 01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:38,360 Speaker 10: smoke dot org. S E, I Z E the smoke 1949 01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:42,439 Speaker 10: dot org and that's the full website that shows you 1950 01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:46,519 Speaker 10: all of the work that has been done and the 1951 01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:51,080 Speaker 10: plan to continue is right there on the website. And 1952 01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:54,960 Speaker 10: then I have the info at sees the smoke dot 1953 01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:58,600 Speaker 10: org direct email for anyone that you know wants to 1954 01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:03,679 Speaker 10: send an email, and you know, my immediate response would 1955 01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:06,439 Speaker 10: would definitely be a promise to that. 1956 01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:11,120 Speaker 9: So yeah, yeah, like I told. 1957 01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:13,559 Speaker 1: Her last time, because there's another sister who had lost 1958 01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:16,240 Speaker 1: two children to gun violence. We won the last time 1959 01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:19,439 Speaker 1: you hit so and I said, keep us in the 1960 01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:21,800 Speaker 1: loop because again and I'll see it over and over. 1961 01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:24,640 Speaker 1: This is our problem. The other folks don't care, they 1962 01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:28,120 Speaker 1: like it. We have to solve this problem. So the 1963 01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:31,120 Speaker 1: self hate, that's why we don't entertain this fighting on 1964 01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:33,840 Speaker 1: this particular program. You want to do that black on 1965 01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:37,000 Speaker 1: black fight, go somewhere else. We don't do that here. 1966 01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:38,840 Speaker 1: We're not We're not going to promote that kind of stuff. 1967 01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:42,120 Speaker 1: So U and I just hope that everybody understands what 1968 01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:45,320 Speaker 1: because if you've heard doctor Wells, you've a doctor Fox, 1969 01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:48,720 Speaker 1: Tony Browner, you've heard these brothers and scholars that we 1970 01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:51,880 Speaker 1: have come on this radio, they they don't have those 1971 01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:53,479 Speaker 1: kind of issues. And the people who listen to this 1972 01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:56,280 Speaker 1: program they don't have those kind of issues either. So 1973 01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:59,200 Speaker 1: we've got to make a stop. Family and just a Seana, 1974 01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:01,640 Speaker 1: You've been around quite a bit Republican New Africa and 1975 01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:04,800 Speaker 1: all that with your brother uh shake out, you know, 1976 01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:06,920 Speaker 1: I know all that that story. So I know are 1977 01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:09,280 Speaker 1: you trying? But you need help? So how can folks 1978 01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:10,080 Speaker 1: help you as well? 1979 01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:15,479 Speaker 9: Okay, well, Lisa takes you know, the credit for seeds 1980 01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:21,320 Speaker 9: to Smoke. I'm only a supporter of Lisas. But you know, 1981 01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:24,320 Speaker 9: in terms of getting in touch with me, they can 1982 01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:30,400 Speaker 9: always email me at Shashana Shakua and Shashana is s 1983 01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:34,960 Speaker 9: as in sam h U s h A n n 1984 01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:39,960 Speaker 9: A Shakua. And I always tell people like Tupac, but 1985 01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:43,160 Speaker 9: I had my name first s h A k U 1986 01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:47,680 Speaker 9: R dot com Shashana Shakua dot com. And you can 1987 01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:50,720 Speaker 9: get in touch with me that way. And I'm involved 1988 01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:55,320 Speaker 9: with many things in the community. Carl Is, Brother carl 1989 01:47:55,439 --> 01:47:57,280 Speaker 9: Is nice enough to have me come on and talk 1990 01:47:57,360 --> 01:48:01,840 Speaker 9: about some of the housing injustices and the youth programming 1991 01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:04,840 Speaker 9: and different things that I do. But thank you and 1992 01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:07,680 Speaker 9: and and brother Carl. I just want to suggest that 1993 01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:10,799 Speaker 9: I think it would be great for your listening audience 1994 01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:15,080 Speaker 9: if Lisa would come back with some of the cvis 1995 01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:20,280 Speaker 9: that are out there, you know, up front with the 1996 01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:24,320 Speaker 9: young people in the streets trying to uh stop and 1997 01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:26,679 Speaker 9: reduce this crime and murder. 1998 01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:31,120 Speaker 1: Of course, sure, yeah, sure, let's let's do that. Like 1999 01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:32,720 Speaker 1: I told to keep us in the loop, because it's 2000 01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:34,800 Speaker 1: our problem. We've got to figure out we how to 2001 01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:37,160 Speaker 1: stop it. But thank you again, and thank you for 2002 01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:39,720 Speaker 1: the concern and the work that you ladies are doing 2003 01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:40,280 Speaker 1: in Detroit. 2004 01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:45,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, and if everyone could please go to Seize the 2005 01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:48,720 Speaker 9: Smoke dot org and make a donation to the great 2006 01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:55,320 Speaker 9: work that Lisa's doing to help with this homicide problem 2007 01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:57,919 Speaker 9: and the families who are suffering. 2008 01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:00,760 Speaker 1: All right, thank you, ladies, thank you for all that 2009 01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:05,120 Speaker 1: you do. All right, Family fifteen half the Tough, Free 2010 01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:10,400 Speaker 1: the Land, Turning Malik Shabbaz behind Rising, one Love, Thank you, 2011 01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:17,720 Speaker 1: One Love. Attorney Malik. Yes, sir, grand Rise brother, you're 2012 01:49:17,800 --> 01:49:21,599 Speaker 1: in Rising, and I think you would be so patient 2013 01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:23,599 Speaker 1: with us, man, because this is is just a serious 2014 01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:26,920 Speaker 1: issue in our community. You know, we've we've just got 2015 01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:31,599 Speaker 1: to stop this infighting. And you know it manifest yourself 2016 01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:34,040 Speaker 1: with the young people shooting and killing each other. Then 2017 01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:36,240 Speaker 1: you have the adults. You have it in the clergy. 2018 01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:39,760 Speaker 1: You have it in different different religions too, you know, 2019 01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:43,400 Speaker 1: Christians and Muslims and everybody going against each other. But 2020 01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:46,240 Speaker 1: I know you working out on the unification process as 2021 01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:50,120 Speaker 1: well with the different groups. And I hate to do 2022 01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:51,880 Speaker 1: this because we come up on a break and I 2023 01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:53,400 Speaker 1: know we just got you on, but I wonder if 2024 01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:55,840 Speaker 1: you address that and talk about some of the other 2025 01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:58,280 Speaker 1: issues that we talked about that we're going to talk about, 2026 01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:01,120 Speaker 1: especially the mayor race and in d C and also 2027 01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:03,880 Speaker 1: what's going on, oh the other political race too that 2028 01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:08,160 Speaker 1: you're working with. You're working with in Mississippi, US Senate 2029 01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:11,240 Speaker 1: Canada Priscilla till as well. So we'll talk about that 2030 01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:13,200 Speaker 1: when we get back. Family is just joined us. Call 2031 01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:15,240 Speaker 1: up a couple of friends telling that Attorney Miliks Shabazi 2032 01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:17,720 Speaker 1: is on the radio. They'll appreciate it. You can call 2033 01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:20,360 Speaker 1: into at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight 2034 01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:23,360 Speaker 1: seventy six and we'll taket calls next and Grand Rising family, 2035 01:50:23,439 --> 01:50:25,720 Speaker 1: thanks for staying with us so this Tuesday morning at 2036 01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:27,320 Speaker 1: twenty minutes, Souven of the top of the turn our 2037 01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:29,280 Speaker 1: attention to our next guest. He's the founder of the 2038 01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:32,320 Speaker 1: Black Lawyers for Justice. You've heard it before, Attorney Maliksha 2039 01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:34,760 Speaker 1: Baza and again Grand Rising, Attorney Milik welcome back to 2040 01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:35,680 Speaker 1: the program. 2041 01:50:36,920 --> 01:50:39,320 Speaker 4: Grand Rising, and thank you for having me this morning. 2042 01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:42,920 Speaker 1: And you know, before I ask you that question, why 2043 01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:46,040 Speaker 1: did you start the Black Lawyers for Justice? What prompted 2044 01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:47,639 Speaker 1: you to start this organization? 2045 01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:53,040 Speaker 4: Oh well, when I came out of Howard University Law School, 2046 01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:59,599 Speaker 4: I had it was one major legal organization. Oh well 2047 01:50:59,680 --> 01:51:05,639 Speaker 4: two actually it was National Bar Association was the main 2048 01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:09,880 Speaker 4: organization that I was familiar with, and and also at 2049 01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:14,760 Speaker 4: that time was a national conference of black lawyers who 2050 01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:17,519 Speaker 4: were who were more active than they are now, but 2051 01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:21,960 Speaker 4: they were significant and well well, Black Lawyers for Justice 2052 01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:28,400 Speaker 4: was the desire to fill a gap that I felt 2053 01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:33,519 Speaker 4: was needed for black attorneys to assert themselves, and not 2054 01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:37,240 Speaker 4: only in legal and political causes that affected our people. 2055 01:51:38,600 --> 01:51:41,640 Speaker 4: The first active, first event that we had was in 2056 01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:46,240 Speaker 4: October of nineteen ninety six. It was at Scripture Cathedral 2057 01:51:46,439 --> 01:51:48,320 Speaker 4: Church on ninth and Old Streets. 2058 01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:49,160 Speaker 1: UH. 2059 01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:52,479 Speaker 4: And that and that event UH we had, we had 2060 01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:56,839 Speaker 4: mister O. J. Simpson rest is soul. O. J. Simpson 2061 01:51:56,920 --> 01:52:00,439 Speaker 4: had just beat his criminal trial. He had not even 2062 01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:03,920 Speaker 4: entered his frial, and he and his issue was a 2063 01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:08,680 Speaker 4: lot as a red firecracker. And and I went and 2064 01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:11,800 Speaker 4: saw J. Simpson. As matter of fact, I want to 2065 01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:15,719 Speaker 4: give credit to Brother Steve Cochley rest his soul. Steve 2066 01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:19,920 Speaker 4: Cochley UH had went to see OJ also earlier that year. 2067 01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:23,240 Speaker 4: He was one of my inspirations. I worked with carefully 2068 01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:27,640 Speaker 4: with Brother Steve Cokeley over my career, so UH the 2069 01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:32,080 Speaker 4: COOJ at different times. And then once I saw Brother OJ, 2070 01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:35,800 Speaker 4: he agreed UH to UH to come to Washington, d C. 2071 01:52:36,120 --> 01:52:41,200 Speaker 4: For a welcome home rally. And and then and then 2072 01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:45,719 Speaker 4: Black Lawyers for Justice started there to begin it's taking 2073 01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:50,320 Speaker 4: a stand on controversial issues and and and it was packed. 2074 01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:52,960 Speaker 4: There was two thousand people. It was all on the 2075 01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:59,719 Speaker 4: inside the outside, protesters, demonstrators, and that's how we got started. 2076 01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:02,759 Speaker 4: And and just over the years, we just fought different 2077 01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:05,760 Speaker 4: battles that needed to be fought for our people. I 2078 01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:08,840 Speaker 4: work with attorneys Roger Wareham to Reef Michael, the Reef 2079 01:53:08,920 --> 01:53:12,320 Speaker 4: Warren in New York. We won the Million Youth March 2080 01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:17,200 Speaker 4: legal cases allowing doctor Khalib Muhammad to march and to 2081 01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:21,200 Speaker 4: hold his events in New York and create and uh, 2082 01:53:22,240 --> 01:53:24,800 Speaker 4: you know, as uh just at that time, as a 2083 01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:28,760 Speaker 4: as a young man, I'm I'm, I'm, I'm seeking to 2084 01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:31,680 Speaker 4: fight for the liberation of my people. And and I'm 2085 01:53:31,760 --> 01:53:35,080 Speaker 4: well versed in black nationalism. I'm coming out of this 2086 01:53:35,240 --> 01:53:40,840 Speaker 4: tutelage of Minister Lewis Farakot and doctor Khalib Muhammad and 2087 01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:46,360 Speaker 4: and others on the Howards University scene. Uh, but Black 2088 01:53:46,439 --> 01:53:49,960 Speaker 4: Lays for justin some is a it's just just myself 2089 01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:53,000 Speaker 4: as a as a young black man and attorney desiring 2090 01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:55,680 Speaker 4: to take a stand for my people in in the 2091 01:53:55,880 --> 01:53:59,800 Speaker 4: legal and political arena, and and uh you know, my 2092 01:54:00,040 --> 01:54:03,080 Speaker 4: careers taking different paths over the years, but still to 2093 01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:06,880 Speaker 4: this day, Black Lawyers for Justice is a force. A 2094 01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:14,000 Speaker 4: small force of formidable attorneys count amongst our Board Donaval 2095 01:54:14,120 --> 01:54:16,880 Speaker 4: Donald Temple. Donald Temple is one of the great civil 2096 01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:19,639 Speaker 4: rights lawyers in this city, well known in this city. 2097 01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:24,479 Speaker 4: Big props to Attorney Gregory Latimer, who's a legend in 2098 01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:28,639 Speaker 4: this town and others around the country, Attorney Reginald Green 2099 01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:32,240 Speaker 4: down there in Atlanta, Georgia. So so i hate to 2100 01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:35,120 Speaker 4: take so long on that answer, but I'm honored for 2101 01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:37,840 Speaker 4: that to be one of the main organizations that I've 2102 01:54:37,880 --> 01:54:41,160 Speaker 4: been able to fight with and use my legal talent 2103 01:54:41,320 --> 01:54:42,160 Speaker 4: through Black. 2104 01:54:42,040 --> 01:54:47,280 Speaker 1: Lawyer's suggested the backstory on Cokeley and OJ after the trial. 2105 01:54:48,760 --> 01:54:50,560 Speaker 1: The next day after the trial, Johnny Cochran was, I 2106 01:54:50,720 --> 01:54:54,560 Speaker 1: guessed the following day it was OJ, and the next 2107 01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:59,120 Speaker 1: day was Steve Cockley. And so Cokeley came in early 2108 01:54:59,160 --> 01:55:02,760 Speaker 1: when OJ was there and invited OJ to come to 2109 01:55:03,040 --> 01:55:04,800 Speaker 1: what we call the Good Life. It was a restaurant 2110 01:55:04,920 --> 01:55:07,520 Speaker 1: like where this is where all our scholars would come 2111 01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:09,120 Speaker 1: with her in town and they speak it's it's a 2112 01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:12,000 Speaker 1: vegetarian restaurant right on crunch aw. You probably know you're 2113 01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:13,880 Speaker 1: from La so and and. 2114 01:55:15,560 --> 01:55:15,680 Speaker 4: Right. 2115 01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:18,200 Speaker 1: And they taped it because yeah, because he didn't think 2116 01:55:18,240 --> 01:55:20,080 Speaker 1: that O J would show up, and so people didn't 2117 01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:22,040 Speaker 1: think because that was our Friday, and all of a sudden, 2118 01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:24,960 Speaker 1: OJ comes in, and you know what's funny because at 2119 01:55:25,000 --> 01:55:28,040 Speaker 1: the Good Life, Brother Malik, all kinds of people come 2120 01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:30,680 Speaker 1: up there, they listen to the program. It's dan Ziel's 2121 01:55:30,720 --> 01:55:32,840 Speaker 1: been there, and nobody bum rushes them. 2122 01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:33,160 Speaker 4: You know. 2123 01:55:33,240 --> 01:55:36,120 Speaker 1: All these celebrities, these Hollywood types, they come by if 2124 01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:38,120 Speaker 1: they hear some regred stuff they were going to speak 2125 01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:41,080 Speaker 1: or at claude Anis or something. They show up and 2126 01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:44,280 Speaker 1: there's nobody asking for take. Well, we're gonna have phones 2127 01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:46,880 Speaker 1: there to take pictures, but there's nobody pastoring them. You know, 2128 01:55:47,080 --> 01:55:49,400 Speaker 1: they just okay, just another person. And that's how it 2129 01:55:49,560 --> 01:55:51,720 Speaker 1: was Rejuice. He just came up there, came up and 2130 01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:54,600 Speaker 1: nobody's climbing around. He just everybody wanted, you know, at 2131 01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:57,160 Speaker 1: that time outside of it that people wanted to get 2132 01:55:57,240 --> 01:55:59,480 Speaker 1: with him, and he and Coachley did and they talked. 2133 01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:01,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, that was the backstory that I didn't know 2134 01:56:01,720 --> 01:56:03,800 Speaker 1: if he took it back to d C. But yeah, 2135 01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:04,800 Speaker 1: I just want to share that with you. 2136 01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:08,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, actually it's a quick point he 2137 01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:12,200 Speaker 4: actually did. That was part of what I was saying. 2138 01:56:12,280 --> 01:56:14,840 Speaker 4: I just happened to forget that point and you raised it. 2139 01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:17,960 Speaker 4: He would he would come into Washington, d C. And 2140 01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:21,240 Speaker 4: he would teach at the at the right near Howard 2141 01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:23,880 Speaker 4: University and he would play that tape from the Good 2142 01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:26,960 Speaker 4: Life with oj That was that was that was one 2143 01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:30,120 Speaker 4: thing amongst many great things that brother Steve Kochery did 2144 01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:34,280 Speaker 4: and good Life. I'm from Los Angeles, triple thumbs up, 2145 01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:36,760 Speaker 4: black power. It was just that was those are the 2146 01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:40,720 Speaker 4: great those are great days, great days. They were great place. 2147 01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:43,840 Speaker 1: Yes they were, Gregor, you're trying to get you to 2148 01:56:43,960 --> 01:56:47,840 Speaker 1: a grass grass juice or something up there, interesting place, 2149 01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:51,720 Speaker 1: a vegetarian restaurant. But it was all the scholars whenever 2150 01:56:51,800 --> 01:56:53,800 Speaker 1: they come to town. That was the stop that they 2151 01:56:53,920 --> 01:56:56,560 Speaker 1: they made it at the of the Good Life. But 2152 01:56:56,680 --> 01:56:58,440 Speaker 1: let me ask you this though, because we talked with 2153 01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:02,480 Speaker 1: these sisters moments ago. Uh, Attorney Malika, and you know 2154 01:57:02,640 --> 01:57:05,640 Speaker 1: this this gang finding this this you know, between our 2155 01:57:05,720 --> 01:57:08,400 Speaker 1: young people, trying to figure out way how we can 2156 01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:10,360 Speaker 1: stop that. Now, I know you've been working not at 2157 01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:13,200 Speaker 1: that level, but at a senior level with some of 2158 01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:17,200 Speaker 1: these trying to bring members of the nation, the other 2159 01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:21,240 Speaker 1: members of Islamic groups, also the Christian groups, to bring 2160 01:57:21,320 --> 01:57:23,040 Speaker 1: them together. How is that coming about? 2161 01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:29,400 Speaker 4: Uh? Well, I would say this on the on the 2162 01:57:29,560 --> 01:57:34,560 Speaker 4: violence issue, a couple a couple of points I do. 2163 01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:40,200 Speaker 4: I do have some background as uh as I said, 2164 01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:44,040 Speaker 4: I come up continued, I come up constantly working in 2165 01:57:44,200 --> 01:57:48,240 Speaker 4: grassroots black organizations that work in the black community. I'm 2166 01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:51,040 Speaker 4: known here right now, I'm on this radio broadcast under 2167 01:57:51,080 --> 01:57:55,600 Speaker 4: the Black Lawyers for Justice. But a substantial amount of 2168 01:57:55,680 --> 01:57:58,120 Speaker 4: my time and work right now to this second is 2169 01:57:58,200 --> 01:58:03,120 Speaker 4: done in Southeast Washington, d C. Wards seven on one 2170 01:58:03,160 --> 01:58:06,280 Speaker 4: of the toughest streets over there, uh so called violence 2171 01:58:06,520 --> 01:58:10,320 Speaker 4: used to be violence prone streets Nelson placed. Over the 2172 01:58:10,440 --> 01:58:13,000 Speaker 4: over the years, I've worked in with the Nation of 2173 01:58:13,160 --> 01:58:19,520 Speaker 4: Islam Unity Nation UH of course well known for New 2174 01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:24,280 Speaker 4: Black Panther Party, which is just a just a pure urban, 2175 01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:29,920 Speaker 4: UH black organization that's was mainly young people. Back in 2176 01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:33,680 Speaker 4: the two thousands. I succeeded the Outible College Muhammad and 2177 01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:38,160 Speaker 4: in that job, I'm also from Los Angeles, California. So 2178 01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:41,960 Speaker 4: I just want to say this. I'm I'm hoping things 2179 01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:47,240 Speaker 4: will get better. No, no race, no race UH has 2180 01:58:47,400 --> 01:58:50,560 Speaker 4: has ever not fought against each other inside its own race. 2181 01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:53,960 Speaker 4: I do want to make that point. You know, were 2182 01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:59,920 Speaker 4: white people have fought UH wars and incredible amount of wars, 2183 01:59:00,120 --> 01:59:04,560 Speaker 4: incredible amount of bloodshed and killing amongst amongst them Britain 2184 01:59:04,640 --> 01:59:09,400 Speaker 4: and Germany and and Italy, and you know, just fighting 2185 01:59:09,480 --> 01:59:13,160 Speaker 4: and killing amongst each other, filling us also of course. 2186 01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:17,960 Speaker 4: And so uh, I don't I don't think that that 2187 01:59:18,080 --> 01:59:22,560 Speaker 4: there will ever be an idealistic, perfect situation where where 2188 01:59:22,640 --> 01:59:26,320 Speaker 4: Black people are are never at in conflict with each other, 2189 01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:31,080 Speaker 4: because that's just in part human nature. However, we must 2190 01:59:31,120 --> 01:59:35,600 Speaker 4: say that we cannot afford the the the uh, the 2191 01:59:36,040 --> 01:59:39,560 Speaker 4: level of violence, the level of tragedies that occur in 2192 01:59:39,640 --> 01:59:43,640 Speaker 4: our community, the number of Black men, young black males 2193 01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:49,600 Speaker 4: that are being sent to the cemetery we are as 2194 01:59:49,680 --> 01:59:55,360 Speaker 4: compared to anybody else, We cannot afford it. And and 2195 01:59:55,520 --> 01:59:58,400 Speaker 4: still I think the central question comes back with a 2196 01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:03,280 Speaker 4: couple of months back now after Million Man March anniversary, 2197 02:00:04,280 --> 02:00:08,200 Speaker 4: is that the central question is in the black community 2198 02:00:08,400 --> 02:00:11,760 Speaker 4: is the it's a black man, it's a black man, 2199 02:00:11,840 --> 02:00:15,720 Speaker 4: it's the black father. It's the presence of a guide, 2200 02:00:15,880 --> 02:00:19,880 Speaker 4: a mentor, of of somebody strong in our communities that 2201 02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:23,800 Speaker 4: can raise help raise their sons as well as these 2202 02:00:24,000 --> 02:00:28,520 Speaker 4: sons in the black community. And uh, and it presents 2203 02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:31,440 Speaker 4: a certain set of contradictions now, because when you mentioned 2204 02:00:31,480 --> 02:00:36,080 Speaker 4: the term strong black man, I mean in certain cities 2205 02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:39,640 Speaker 4: an area, including my own, what they'll look at you, funny. 2206 02:00:39,680 --> 02:00:43,960 Speaker 4: You can't hardly even say strong black man without without 2207 02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:48,920 Speaker 4: meeting some opposition in some quarters. And so it's hard 2208 02:00:49,040 --> 02:00:52,600 Speaker 4: to find a strong, fine, strong black men right here 2209 02:00:52,640 --> 02:00:56,560 Speaker 4: in Washington, DC area these days. We have many great brothers. 2210 02:00:56,600 --> 02:00:59,760 Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong, but the term strong black men 2211 02:01:00,040 --> 02:01:03,480 Speaker 4: and in the black community is almost a misnomer. There's 2212 02:01:03,640 --> 02:01:12,200 Speaker 4: been to conclude there's a specific effort to uh the decapitate, emasculate, 2213 02:01:13,280 --> 02:01:18,320 Speaker 4: and to dismantle and destroy the black man, in the 2214 02:01:18,440 --> 02:01:22,960 Speaker 4: black male, in society and in my city. And as 2215 02:01:23,000 --> 02:01:25,480 Speaker 4: a result, you get a lot of tragedy. 2216 02:01:28,600 --> 02:01:29,839 Speaker 1: Hopefully we have a lostuff. 2217 02:01:30,280 --> 02:01:33,920 Speaker 4: Tell me going to the grave, going to the cemetery. 2218 02:01:35,120 --> 02:01:39,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about DC Murel Bowser stepping down twenty 2219 02:01:39,560 --> 02:01:42,520 Speaker 1: nine minutes away from the top of that family traveling 2220 02:01:42,640 --> 02:01:46,440 Speaker 1: drive slave, especially in Washington, d C's got rain all day, 2221 02:01:46,520 --> 02:01:49,320 Speaker 1: so please strive carefully out there in this weather. But 2222 02:01:49,640 --> 02:01:52,280 Speaker 1: Attorney of the League, what would you say would be 2223 02:01:52,320 --> 02:01:53,720 Speaker 1: the legacy for Muriel Bowser? 2224 02:01:58,160 --> 02:02:04,000 Speaker 4: It's a heck of a question mixed legacy, mixed legacy. 2225 02:02:07,480 --> 02:02:13,040 Speaker 4: She she represented, uh, the competency of the black woman 2226 02:02:13,560 --> 02:02:15,920 Speaker 4: just as a as a black woman man. We could 2227 02:02:15,920 --> 02:02:19,480 Speaker 4: say that that that she represented. She was uh. She 2228 02:02:19,680 --> 02:02:22,360 Speaker 4: she knew how to handle herself, she carried herself well, 2229 02:02:22,520 --> 02:02:24,080 Speaker 4: she spoke well, she looked well. 2230 02:02:25,880 --> 02:02:25,960 Speaker 9: Uh. 2231 02:02:26,440 --> 02:02:31,920 Speaker 4: Policy wise, she presided over perhaps the greatest spike in 2232 02:02:32,760 --> 02:02:38,040 Speaker 4: in development, in development and rehability and and I guess 2233 02:02:38,320 --> 02:02:42,240 Speaker 4: esthetic improvement in the District of Columbia and the District 2234 02:02:42,280 --> 02:02:47,880 Speaker 4: of Columbia totally changed under the Muriel Bowser's watch. The 2235 02:02:48,480 --> 02:02:52,360 Speaker 4: questions and the calculus on her legacy is whether or 2236 02:02:52,480 --> 02:02:56,440 Speaker 4: not the growth and development that took place under Muriel 2237 02:02:56,640 --> 02:03:03,840 Speaker 4: Bowser was was four or against black people. I mean, 2238 02:03:04,080 --> 02:03:06,200 Speaker 4: I mean, straight up, I mean and some of it 2239 02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:09,360 Speaker 4: was for there's no doubt about that. Many business owners 2240 02:03:09,920 --> 02:03:12,480 Speaker 4: or that are raised their hands. But but but we 2241 02:03:12,560 --> 02:03:16,480 Speaker 4: can also say that unfortunately, and I don't we can 2242 02:03:16,680 --> 02:03:19,920 Speaker 4: calculate to what degree it's what the blame belongs on her. 2243 02:03:20,840 --> 02:03:28,720 Speaker 4: But gentrification and displacement of black skyrocketed under the reign 2244 02:03:28,880 --> 02:03:34,640 Speaker 4: of Miria about under her under her watch, our people 2245 02:03:34,680 --> 02:03:38,640 Speaker 4: would power in Washington, d C. Just in where they 2246 02:03:38,760 --> 02:03:43,360 Speaker 4: live and how they live, and it was decimated. Properties 2247 02:03:43,800 --> 02:03:47,200 Speaker 4: went sky high. And so this is a different city. 2248 02:03:48,520 --> 02:03:51,760 Speaker 4: Is taken far, far far from the days of Marion 2249 02:03:51,840 --> 02:03:56,680 Speaker 4: Barry and Chocolate City US. The city is run by developers. 2250 02:03:57,680 --> 02:04:00,360 Speaker 4: You know, many areas that we know, Howard Universe, you 2251 02:04:00,640 --> 02:04:03,760 Speaker 4: go around Howard University to day is is heavily gentrified. 2252 02:04:03,880 --> 02:04:10,480 Speaker 4: I mean looks everywhere. And so I think it's mixed. 2253 02:04:10,480 --> 02:04:13,640 Speaker 4: She's she's done, she's doing and has done good things. 2254 02:04:13,720 --> 02:04:17,080 Speaker 4: There's no doubt about it, Honorable miriael bows in many quarters. 2255 02:04:17,760 --> 02:04:22,320 Speaker 4: In other ways, black people have uh, have have suffered 2256 02:04:22,360 --> 02:04:26,120 Speaker 4: and lost power, and therefore her legacy will be mixed. 2257 02:04:26,680 --> 02:04:31,280 Speaker 4: It will be positive, but yet mixed. Uh and with 2258 02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:33,160 Speaker 4: serious concerns for the future. 2259 02:04:33,760 --> 02:04:35,600 Speaker 1: Well let me jump in twenty six away from the 2260 02:04:35,680 --> 02:04:37,960 Speaker 1: top of that, because she still got time, because even 2261 02:04:38,000 --> 02:04:40,480 Speaker 1: though she's a lame duck mayor, she still got time 2262 02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:43,280 Speaker 1: to you know, change how legacy said. We'll see that 2263 02:04:43,440 --> 02:04:45,240 Speaker 1: if that happens. But I want to talk to you 2264 02:04:45,320 --> 02:04:48,440 Speaker 1: about the people who are jockeying for to replace her. 2265 02:04:49,120 --> 02:04:51,480 Speaker 1: And the latest person to throw a hat into the 2266 02:04:51,560 --> 02:04:55,680 Speaker 1: proverbial ring was the Council member from the ward number four, 2267 02:04:55,800 --> 02:04:59,600 Speaker 1: Denise Lewis George, who describes herself as a democratic socialist. 2268 02:04:59,640 --> 02:05:01,800 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering if she's picking up some of the 2269 02:05:02,000 --> 02:05:04,840 Speaker 1: vibes out of New York with Mondani. Hope that that 2270 02:05:04,960 --> 02:05:10,960 Speaker 1: can play it out in the district. Your thoughts, Uh, 2271 02:05:11,080 --> 02:05:11,440 Speaker 1: we would. 2272 02:05:11,720 --> 02:05:16,400 Speaker 4: Let's see. You know, Mondami himself is a He's a phenomenon. 2273 02:05:16,560 --> 02:05:19,680 Speaker 4: He catches. He catches everybody by surprise. I'm not from 2274 02:05:19,760 --> 02:05:22,320 Speaker 4: New York, but he caught me by surprise because because 2275 02:05:22,360 --> 02:05:24,960 Speaker 4: I never heard of him until he he rocketed to 2276 02:05:25,080 --> 02:05:31,200 Speaker 4: the mayor's seat on the label of democratic socialism now 2277 02:05:31,360 --> 02:05:36,120 Speaker 4: just quickly. Democratic socialism supposed, it says, since it's a 2278 02:05:36,200 --> 02:05:41,840 Speaker 4: popular term now, is a political and economic philosophy that 2279 02:05:42,120 --> 02:05:47,880 Speaker 4: advocates for a democratically run and socially owned economy. It 2280 02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:53,560 Speaker 4: says it's unlike authoritarian forms of socialism such as Marxists 2281 02:05:53,800 --> 02:06:00,360 Speaker 4: and Marxism Leninism. But uh, it's about political demand see 2282 02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:05,240 Speaker 4: but opposes capitalism. And it's for things, and it's for 2283 02:06:05,400 --> 02:06:11,440 Speaker 4: policies such as universal health care, free education, workers' rights, 2284 02:06:11,600 --> 02:06:17,760 Speaker 4: and and and and other other principles sound pretty good 2285 02:06:17,880 --> 02:06:20,720 Speaker 4: to most of us. Uh, let me ask you this 2286 02:06:20,840 --> 02:06:23,760 Speaker 4: though good and the theory it sounds good. 2287 02:06:24,720 --> 02:06:27,400 Speaker 1: But you think that would resonate in the district councilor 2288 02:06:27,560 --> 02:06:29,800 Speaker 1: do you think people of what you just said, all 2289 02:06:29,880 --> 02:06:32,400 Speaker 1: all those you know, the stipulations have come out of 2290 02:06:32,680 --> 02:06:36,320 Speaker 1: a Democratic Socialists agenda, would with that work in Washington 2291 02:06:36,360 --> 02:06:36,520 Speaker 1: d C. 2292 02:06:40,320 --> 02:06:43,200 Speaker 4: Well, we have to see to what extent would it 2293 02:06:43,320 --> 02:06:44,560 Speaker 4: work in Washington d C. 2294 02:06:45,240 --> 02:06:47,120 Speaker 1: I hold that through right there. I'll let you finish 2295 02:06:47,160 --> 02:06:48,840 Speaker 1: your expression. People got to take a short break, and 2296 02:06:48,920 --> 02:06:51,000 Speaker 1: I'll let you tell us because one of the things 2297 02:06:51,040 --> 02:06:53,000 Speaker 1: too that and this is where you come in A 2298 02:06:53,120 --> 02:06:55,520 Speaker 1: question for you, especially for the new person who says 2299 02:06:55,560 --> 02:06:59,400 Speaker 1: that they're running the challenging to get that seat again 2300 02:06:59,480 --> 02:07:04,080 Speaker 1: from Ward four City Council Genie Lewis George. She was 2301 02:07:04,120 --> 02:07:06,280 Speaker 1: talking about defunding the police and I just wonder if 2302 02:07:06,280 --> 02:07:07,880 Speaker 1: that would work today. And I get to your thoughts 2303 02:07:07,880 --> 02:07:09,880 Speaker 1: as that as well. Family, you two can join our 2304 02:07:09,960 --> 02:07:12,520 Speaker 1: conversation with Attorney Malie Shabaz and the founder of Black 2305 02:07:12,560 --> 02:07:14,960 Speaker 1: Lawyers for Justice. Reach out to us at eight hundred 2306 02:07:15,040 --> 02:07:17,760 Speaker 1: four or five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll 2307 02:07:17,800 --> 02:07:20,600 Speaker 1: take your phone calls. Next and Grand rising family, thanks 2308 02:07:20,640 --> 02:07:22,440 Speaker 1: for staying with us on this Tuesday morning. Our guess 2309 02:07:22,440 --> 02:07:24,920 Speaker 1: there's Attorney Malie Shabaz. He's the founder of the Black 2310 02:07:25,040 --> 02:07:26,880 Speaker 1: Lawyers for Justice. Before we go back to let me 2311 02:07:27,000 --> 02:07:29,400 Speaker 1: just remind you. Coming up later this week, you're gonna 2312 02:07:29,440 --> 02:07:32,360 Speaker 1: hear from doctor Sabey's son Abdula will join us. Also 2313 02:07:32,400 --> 02:07:35,040 Speaker 1: the Master Teacher himself, brother Astra Quasi will be here 2314 02:07:35,320 --> 02:07:37,480 Speaker 1: and Chairman Fred Hampton will also stop by. So if 2315 02:07:37,520 --> 02:07:39,720 Speaker 1: you're in Baltimore, make sure you keep you ready locked 2316 02:07:39,760 --> 02:07:42,120 Speaker 1: in tight on ten ten WLB or if you're in 2317 02:07:42,200 --> 02:07:45,840 Speaker 1: the DMV, we're on fourteen fifteen WL. So Council, my 2318 02:07:45,960 --> 02:07:48,840 Speaker 1: question to you before we left was the DC Council 2319 02:07:49,120 --> 02:07:53,920 Speaker 1: from the Ward four Deenicee Lewis George says she wants 2320 02:07:53,960 --> 02:07:55,920 Speaker 1: to be the next mayor of Washington, DC. She says 2321 02:07:56,000 --> 02:07:58,760 Speaker 1: that she's a democratic socialist and I'm glad you did that. 2322 02:07:59,120 --> 02:08:01,600 Speaker 1: Explain what a democra had socialist stands because some people 2323 02:08:01,800 --> 02:08:05,480 Speaker 1: interpreted them being Donald Trump's is he called Mandy a 2324 02:08:05,600 --> 02:08:08,720 Speaker 1: communist and people think that, you know, they're extremists, but 2325 02:08:08,960 --> 02:08:12,040 Speaker 1: what you said that what they want? Do you think 2326 02:08:12,080 --> 02:08:15,400 Speaker 1: that would resonate with with the people in the district. 2327 02:08:18,280 --> 02:08:24,000 Speaker 4: Now in theory, in theory, the theory that that that 2328 02:08:24,120 --> 02:08:27,200 Speaker 4: we were going with, we're not on the side of corporations. 2329 02:08:28,240 --> 02:08:31,280 Speaker 4: That the candidate that says that I'm not on the 2330 02:08:31,360 --> 02:08:33,520 Speaker 4: side of corporations, I'm not on the side of the 2331 02:08:33,600 --> 02:08:36,840 Speaker 4: big developers. That I'm for the people. That I'm for 2332 02:08:37,080 --> 02:08:41,880 Speaker 4: everybody to have not only just affordable housing, but but 2333 02:08:42,200 --> 02:08:45,800 Speaker 4: but the ability to own and have equity in in 2334 02:08:46,440 --> 02:08:49,520 Speaker 4: this city. About i'mally talking about black people right now. 2335 02:08:50,480 --> 02:08:54,080 Speaker 4: We could talk about the all people equation, but I mean, 2336 02:08:54,120 --> 02:08:56,920 Speaker 4: I'm sure it's going to catch some traction amongst a 2337 02:08:57,080 --> 02:09:00,760 Speaker 4: certain quarter of whites who tend to be liberal in 2338 02:09:00,840 --> 02:09:05,320 Speaker 4: the district of Columbia democratic socialism and and according to 2339 02:09:05,400 --> 02:09:09,200 Speaker 4: my analysis, they tend to think more theoretically in the district. 2340 02:09:09,320 --> 02:09:16,080 Speaker 4: And and this person in this case, Councilwoman Lewis George. 2341 02:09:16,160 --> 02:09:18,800 Speaker 4: There there are other candidates we talk about in a minute, 2342 02:09:18,840 --> 02:09:24,800 Speaker 4: Sister Ronda Hamilton and others. But I think this candidate, 2343 02:09:24,960 --> 02:09:28,800 Speaker 4: like Deanie Lewis George, under the label of democratic socialism, 2344 02:09:28,920 --> 02:09:31,720 Speaker 4: that that she will gain a certain amount of traction 2345 02:09:31,840 --> 02:09:36,560 Speaker 4: amongst liberal whites in the district. The key question is 2346 02:09:36,960 --> 02:09:40,480 Speaker 4: how she resonates with the black community and how what 2347 02:09:40,760 --> 02:09:46,959 Speaker 4: democratic centralism is supposed to stand for. Can she convince 2348 02:09:47,400 --> 02:09:50,320 Speaker 4: black people in the district she's for that and and 2349 02:09:50,480 --> 02:09:55,000 Speaker 4: will actually stand for that, uh when she comes into office? 2350 02:09:55,160 --> 02:09:58,600 Speaker 4: And has she built enough of a track record in 2351 02:09:58,760 --> 02:10:03,680 Speaker 4: the in the entire black community to gain that support. 2352 02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:05,760 Speaker 4: But the jury certainly still out. 2353 02:10:09,240 --> 02:10:10,880 Speaker 1: Right sixteen away from the town. 2354 02:10:10,760 --> 02:10:13,880 Speaker 4: Principles and her policy. Is she gonna is she gonna well, 2355 02:10:13,920 --> 02:10:16,360 Speaker 4: she is she gonna be able to gain traction in 2356 02:10:16,440 --> 02:10:18,200 Speaker 4: the book community? The jury is still out. 2357 02:10:19,520 --> 02:10:21,320 Speaker 1: And my question to you because if she was one 2358 02:10:21,320 --> 02:10:24,760 Speaker 1: of the early ones after George Floyd was saying defund 2359 02:10:24,800 --> 02:10:28,120 Speaker 1: the police, and that's been attacked, uh since the Trump 2360 02:10:28,160 --> 02:10:31,880 Speaker 1: administration's second term. Can can she stand by that? And 2361 02:10:32,240 --> 02:10:36,120 Speaker 1: still when the mayor race, you think defund the police? 2362 02:10:36,200 --> 02:10:41,760 Speaker 1: Is that's something that a season politician can can talk 2363 02:10:41,800 --> 02:10:45,040 Speaker 1: about these days? Is that still a great thing to say? 2364 02:10:45,560 --> 02:10:48,960 Speaker 4: What you got to see is that is that she's 2365 02:10:49,080 --> 02:10:52,360 Speaker 4: serious about it. That's the question, is I mean? I mean, 2366 02:10:53,640 --> 02:10:58,520 Speaker 4: has her policy legislative record revealed that he has atmant 2367 02:10:58,560 --> 02:11:03,320 Speaker 4: about defund in the police and introduced legislation and talkship. 2368 02:11:04,160 --> 02:11:06,960 Speaker 4: Uh maybe I missed that. I haven't. I haven't seen that, 2369 02:11:07,440 --> 02:11:09,600 Speaker 4: but I like that thinking. Now, don't get me wrong. 2370 02:11:11,360 --> 02:11:14,360 Speaker 4: Uh See, there's one thing. It's it's being the mayor 2371 02:11:14,440 --> 02:11:18,080 Speaker 4: of the District of Columbia's no easy job. This is 2372 02:11:18,160 --> 02:11:24,080 Speaker 4: a mayor maryer above. Anybody knows that this is it's 2373 02:11:24,160 --> 02:11:27,840 Speaker 4: not an easy job. It's a it's a federally controlled city. 2374 02:11:27,960 --> 02:11:32,400 Speaker 4: It's a it's a heavy political weight over the mayor's head. 2375 02:11:33,040 --> 02:11:38,880 Speaker 4: It's controlled by congress persons. Uh Uh, it's heavily developer influence. 2376 02:11:38,960 --> 02:11:41,360 Speaker 4: And the question is is kind of person with with 2377 02:11:41,520 --> 02:11:44,520 Speaker 4: the good ideas with would they ever be able to 2378 02:11:44,560 --> 02:11:48,480 Speaker 4: put them into practice from the mayor's office. Well, again, 2379 02:11:48,720 --> 02:11:51,560 Speaker 4: you have to go back and say that although although 2380 02:11:52,280 --> 02:11:56,040 Speaker 4: we don't claim perfection for him, that that mayor, Mayor 2381 02:11:56,280 --> 02:11:59,720 Speaker 4: Marion Barry did probably the best job you could do 2382 02:12:00,480 --> 02:12:05,040 Speaker 4: under those circumstances. And and I mean to me, he 2383 02:12:05,280 --> 02:12:09,400 Speaker 4: was more democratic socialist and he's the democratic socialist to 2384 02:12:09,480 --> 02:12:12,040 Speaker 4: be honest. I mean he was for the people. Uh. 2385 02:12:12,160 --> 02:12:15,320 Speaker 4: His his policies were mainly for the people, for the youth, 2386 02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:19,320 Speaker 4: for the senior citizens. Uh. He helped a lot of 2387 02:12:19,360 --> 02:12:23,920 Speaker 4: black people come up in business. Uh, but he certainly 2388 02:12:24,080 --> 02:12:27,960 Speaker 4: was not a corporate rand man. And and so the 2389 02:12:28,080 --> 02:12:31,960 Speaker 4: question is, can any of these candidates take the good 2390 02:12:32,120 --> 02:12:37,040 Speaker 4: parts of his legacy? Can any mayoral candidate come upon 2391 02:12:37,200 --> 02:12:41,320 Speaker 4: the good parts of marrying Barry's legacy in terms of 2392 02:12:41,400 --> 02:12:45,520 Speaker 4: his policy and good will towards the people and and 2393 02:12:45,680 --> 02:12:48,240 Speaker 4: will and can they represent that? Because that will be 2394 02:12:48,360 --> 02:12:51,840 Speaker 4: the candidate and that I would support in this hour, 2395 02:12:52,000 --> 02:12:54,280 Speaker 4: because something's got to change in this city. I mean, 2396 02:12:54,320 --> 02:12:59,320 Speaker 4: the city is the city of Washington, DC. Is it's 2397 02:12:59,360 --> 02:13:02,280 Speaker 4: going It's gonna make more than democratic socialism to fix 2398 02:13:02,400 --> 02:13:04,960 Speaker 4: what's going wrong in the city. Black people are being 2399 02:13:05,080 --> 02:13:08,200 Speaker 4: decimated and it's a long way from what it was. 2400 02:13:09,840 --> 02:13:12,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, thirteen away from the top. And City council member 2401 02:13:12,840 --> 02:13:15,440 Speaker 1: Kenyan McDuffie is also one who says he's going to run. 2402 02:13:15,560 --> 02:13:18,200 Speaker 1: Hasn't file his papers yet, but he says he's going. 2403 02:13:18,760 --> 02:13:19,520 Speaker 1: He wants the job. 2404 02:13:20,320 --> 02:13:25,280 Speaker 4: And McDuffie, yeah, okay. 2405 02:13:25,400 --> 02:13:29,000 Speaker 1: Your thoughts on him, yeah, make a good good man. 2406 02:13:29,080 --> 02:13:32,080 Speaker 4: I think he's fundamentally I thought. I think he's fundamentally 2407 02:13:32,120 --> 02:13:35,920 Speaker 4: a good brother. I think Kenyan McDuffie is fundamentally a 2408 02:13:36,000 --> 02:13:41,680 Speaker 4: good man. I've had good interactions with him, and I 2409 02:13:41,760 --> 02:13:47,800 Speaker 4: think he's fundamentally good. But he but he's no Marion Barry. 2410 02:13:48,360 --> 02:13:52,080 Speaker 4: I mean, be honest, he if you take him right now, 2411 02:13:52,480 --> 02:13:55,240 Speaker 4: I'm not just this is just being not being critical, 2412 02:13:55,360 --> 02:13:58,320 Speaker 4: but I gotta think critically right now if you go 2413 02:13:58,400 --> 02:14:05,040 Speaker 4: to to war Aid or Ward seven M. Certain political 2414 02:14:05,080 --> 02:14:08,160 Speaker 4: people certainly they know him, that are into the district politics, 2415 02:14:08,200 --> 02:14:13,200 Speaker 4: but that the average personal voter, he has low recognition. 2416 02:14:13,640 --> 02:14:17,080 Speaker 4: Same thing with Miss George, I mean East for these 2417 02:14:17,200 --> 02:14:22,400 Speaker 4: candidates are not known right now. D c's frankly does 2418 02:14:22,560 --> 02:14:27,200 Speaker 4: not have a political champion for the underclass in DC 2419 02:14:27,440 --> 02:14:31,120 Speaker 4: does not have a political champion for for the work 2420 02:14:31,240 --> 02:14:35,440 Speaker 4: for even the working class. Doc Waer. When the National 2421 02:14:35,600 --> 02:14:40,040 Speaker 4: Guard uh uh is placed here by Donald Trump, and 2422 02:14:40,160 --> 02:14:42,760 Speaker 4: there there are other offenses that are committed in the 2423 02:14:42,840 --> 02:14:47,400 Speaker 4: District of Columbia, there is not a known champion or 2424 02:14:47,720 --> 02:14:52,040 Speaker 4: fighter in elected office that is known for fighting for 2425 02:14:52,120 --> 02:14:55,400 Speaker 4: the people. I mean, if if maybe I'm I can't 2426 02:14:55,440 --> 02:14:58,200 Speaker 4: be missing something because because I'm in I'm in the 2427 02:14:58,280 --> 02:15:05,160 Speaker 4: district daily. So this is what it's truly why it's 2428 02:15:05,280 --> 02:15:06,440 Speaker 4: truly wide open. 2429 02:15:07,200 --> 02:15:08,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me ask you this though, do you think 2430 02:15:08,920 --> 02:15:10,880 Speaker 1: Marion Barry came back today, he could win the election. 2431 02:15:11,280 --> 02:15:13,160 Speaker 1: I think he'd be re elected in Washington d C. 2432 02:15:15,440 --> 02:15:19,120 Speaker 4: Oh, the man in his prime, absolutely, Marion Barry of 2433 02:15:21,360 --> 02:15:25,880 Speaker 4: eight fifty years old, second term Marion Berry absolutely to 2434 02:15:26,440 --> 02:15:32,000 Speaker 4: destroy this field. Well, it would be a close race. 2435 02:15:32,080 --> 02:15:34,560 Speaker 4: I have to say that because of the demographics of 2436 02:15:34,640 --> 02:15:36,800 Speaker 4: the district. I'm thinking back in the days when the 2437 02:15:36,880 --> 02:15:41,480 Speaker 4: district was seventy five percent black. Well, the district has 2438 02:15:41,520 --> 02:15:46,960 Speaker 4: been decimated down to forty two percent black. So I 2439 02:15:47,040 --> 02:15:50,240 Speaker 4: think the Marion Barry of his prime would would have 2440 02:15:50,400 --> 02:15:55,800 Speaker 4: a heavy would be would have a be a serious threat. 2441 02:15:56,640 --> 02:16:00,640 Speaker 4: But it's the whites can roll a lot of the 2442 02:16:00,760 --> 02:16:04,480 Speaker 4: vote in the district right now. So so you have 2443 02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:06,720 Speaker 4: to consider that the white vote. I mean, there could 2444 02:16:06,760 --> 02:16:10,080 Speaker 4: be a white mayor in DC. And what strange is 2445 02:16:10,160 --> 02:16:13,680 Speaker 4: that sound? A white man could come out come out 2446 02:16:13,760 --> 02:16:16,600 Speaker 4: of this race and a white candidate could come and 2447 02:16:16,640 --> 02:16:21,000 Speaker 4: split the field. So, uh, it's a different demographic and 2448 02:16:21,640 --> 02:16:24,800 Speaker 4: and and it's such a different demographic it has to 2449 02:16:24,960 --> 02:16:28,760 Speaker 4: act every candidate that's running, it's going to say what 2450 02:16:29,000 --> 02:16:32,280 Speaker 4: is your track record and what have you done? When 2451 02:16:32,320 --> 02:16:37,760 Speaker 4: it comes to uh, not gentrification, affordable housing, and making 2452 02:16:37,840 --> 02:16:40,800 Speaker 4: sure that the legacy are what they call African Americans 2453 02:16:41,440 --> 02:16:45,440 Speaker 4: or black people Afro descendants in this city. What is 2454 02:16:45,480 --> 02:16:48,440 Speaker 4: your legacy? And every candidate gonna have to come up 2455 02:16:48,480 --> 02:16:51,320 Speaker 4: with to me better answers than what they've come up 2456 02:16:51,360 --> 02:16:54,840 Speaker 4: with thus far. You know, no disrespect to any of them, 2457 02:16:54,879 --> 02:16:58,640 Speaker 4: but the ones that are in office that just not 2458 02:16:58,800 --> 02:17:02,440 Speaker 4: been strong enough. And and Marion Barry would be Marion 2459 02:17:02,560 --> 02:17:08,440 Speaker 4: Barry person tight candidate or even stronger. This would be 2460 02:17:08,520 --> 02:17:10,600 Speaker 4: a breath of fresh air in this race. 2461 02:17:10,680 --> 02:17:12,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, well let me jump in here. Could it be there? 2462 02:17:12,480 --> 02:17:12,640 Speaker 4: Though? 2463 02:17:12,840 --> 02:17:15,880 Speaker 1: As you mentioned the composition, it was Chocolate City, then 2464 02:17:16,280 --> 02:17:18,880 Speaker 1: it's not Chocolate City. Now, see, you've got you got 2465 02:17:18,920 --> 02:17:22,520 Speaker 1: a different card in your in your deck. You've got 2466 02:17:22,640 --> 02:17:25,039 Speaker 1: to play. You've got to, you know, get white folks 2467 02:17:25,040 --> 02:17:27,680 Speaker 1: who who we say, now make up what a third 2468 02:17:27,760 --> 02:17:30,680 Speaker 1: would you say or a quarter of the residents in 2469 02:17:30,720 --> 02:17:33,360 Speaker 1: the district, and and you know many of them. I'm 2470 02:17:33,400 --> 02:17:35,880 Speaker 1: not going to support a candidate who says defund the police. 2471 02:17:36,040 --> 02:17:38,120 Speaker 1: That's you know, that's why I asked you about uh 2472 02:17:38,600 --> 02:17:41,600 Speaker 1: the sister who says she's a democratic socialist and she 2473 02:17:42,240 --> 02:17:45,000 Speaker 1: was her championing defund the police and some of you said, 2474 02:17:45,040 --> 02:17:47,760 Speaker 1: you you agree with but I'm sure the white folks 2475 02:17:47,800 --> 02:17:49,360 Speaker 1: in the district are not going to go along with that. 2476 02:17:50,040 --> 02:17:50,560 Speaker 1: Your thoughts. 2477 02:17:52,440 --> 02:17:56,400 Speaker 4: Uh, well, well that's true. Also, I don't even know that. 2478 02:17:58,640 --> 02:18:02,160 Speaker 4: I don't know how much she's amplifying her position with 2479 02:18:02,320 --> 02:18:05,920 Speaker 4: the police. She's she's not known here as a as 2480 02:18:06,000 --> 02:18:08,760 Speaker 4: a as a stanch critic of the police. I mean 2481 02:18:08,879 --> 02:18:14,080 Speaker 4: just despite that, despite that proclamation or aligning with that policy, 2482 02:18:14,200 --> 02:18:19,040 Speaker 4: at some point known here for for being tough on 2483 02:18:19,160 --> 02:18:24,920 Speaker 4: the police. I mean the National Guard. It's a big 2484 02:18:25,040 --> 02:18:28,760 Speaker 4: story here. I mean your whole guard issue will from 2485 02:18:28,959 --> 02:18:31,600 Speaker 4: the whole city council, and all of them, none of 2486 02:18:31,640 --> 02:18:34,160 Speaker 4: them have taken a point position on the on the 2487 02:18:34,240 --> 02:18:37,720 Speaker 4: militarization in the district of Columbia. They all have been tipped. 2488 02:18:38,200 --> 02:18:41,360 Speaker 4: They all have been kind of tepid on that. So, uh, 2489 02:18:42,959 --> 02:18:46,640 Speaker 4: you're you're right. I mean, white people would not support 2490 02:18:46,720 --> 02:18:49,600 Speaker 4: a defund the police candidate. So the question is is 2491 02:18:50,560 --> 02:18:54,640 Speaker 4: can anybody who has an ideological position and they want 2492 02:18:54,720 --> 02:18:56,840 Speaker 4: to win the race, and they got to make a 2493 02:18:56,920 --> 02:19:00,480 Speaker 4: certain amount of compromises to win the race, could they 2494 02:19:00,600 --> 02:19:04,680 Speaker 4: ever be the candidate that in the beginning, once they 2495 02:19:04,760 --> 02:19:07,920 Speaker 4: have to cut all those deals to get to the 2496 02:19:08,040 --> 02:19:11,800 Speaker 4: mayor's office. In the end, you know, I judge it 2497 02:19:11,879 --> 02:19:13,840 Speaker 4: on what they've done thus far. I mean this city 2498 02:19:13,959 --> 02:19:17,519 Speaker 4: is like if you go to Howard University, the Shaw neighborhood, 2499 02:19:17,600 --> 02:19:22,040 Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's, it's it's it's it's good and bad. 2500 02:19:22,680 --> 02:19:26,039 Speaker 4: I would say bad and good. It carries hardly any 2501 02:19:26,120 --> 02:19:30,760 Speaker 4: of the cultures in Shaw that it used to. I'm 2502 02:19:30,800 --> 02:19:34,720 Speaker 4: talking about Latroit Park, I'm talking about the Howard University area. 2503 02:19:34,840 --> 02:19:38,440 Speaker 4: I mean, this is this is legacy of black culture, 2504 02:19:39,040 --> 02:19:42,000 Speaker 4: uh in this city. And you go here, now it's 2505 02:19:42,040 --> 02:19:44,600 Speaker 4: a bunch of condominiums, it's a bunch of bunch of 2506 02:19:44,720 --> 02:19:48,520 Speaker 4: big empty buildings. I mean they've knocked the they've knocked 2507 02:19:48,560 --> 02:19:52,840 Speaker 4: the culture and the character and the core out of 2508 02:19:52,959 --> 02:19:56,160 Speaker 4: this out of this city, and certainly knocked the black 2509 02:19:56,240 --> 02:19:58,440 Speaker 4: out of it. And they built a bunch of high 2510 02:19:58,560 --> 02:20:02,800 Speaker 4: rises and empty condo minims and and you and and 2511 02:20:03,000 --> 02:20:06,480 Speaker 4: it's it's it's it's not pretty in sharp to me, 2512 02:20:06,640 --> 02:20:10,880 Speaker 4: it's it's ugly. It has some improvements, but but the 2513 02:20:11,440 --> 02:20:14,400 Speaker 4: character of it is destroyed. You can't you can't replace 2514 02:20:14,640 --> 02:20:20,600 Speaker 4: character and and black civilization that's been here so you know, 2515 02:20:20,920 --> 02:20:27,720 Speaker 4: the the the destruction of black civilization, and in Washington, 2516 02:20:27,879 --> 02:20:31,760 Speaker 4: d C. The destruction of black culture is is real. 2517 02:20:32,000 --> 02:20:36,920 Speaker 4: It's it's on many people's minds. Elders. Uh, many people 2518 02:20:37,000 --> 02:20:41,080 Speaker 4: are upset about this. Right then, the councilwoman George district 2519 02:20:41,800 --> 02:20:44,760 Speaker 4: of Ward four, it's a shadow of its former self. 2520 02:20:45,600 --> 02:20:49,480 Speaker 4: How many how many black homeowners and elders and seniors 2521 02:20:49,840 --> 02:20:55,280 Speaker 4: due to property taxes sky rising through the roof here? 2522 02:20:55,640 --> 02:21:00,640 Speaker 4: How many have how many of those uh have been lost? 2523 02:21:01,560 --> 02:21:06,000 Speaker 4: I mean Ladroit Park. So I hate to sound this said, 2524 02:21:06,480 --> 02:21:09,840 Speaker 4: but we are dissatisfying. We are. I mean, there's a 2525 02:21:09,959 --> 02:21:14,520 Speaker 4: great level of dissatisfaction. So I'm hoping something's gonna change, 2526 02:21:14,640 --> 02:21:18,600 Speaker 4: Democrat centralism or some strong candidate that's going to appear. 2527 02:21:18,720 --> 02:21:22,560 Speaker 4: But we're hoping that that will take place. And it's 2528 02:21:22,600 --> 02:21:25,200 Speaker 4: a big vacuum now that Mariel bows us out, and 2529 02:21:25,400 --> 02:21:27,480 Speaker 4: it's certainly going to be a hell of a race, 2530 02:21:27,560 --> 02:21:30,200 Speaker 4: an interesting race, all right, come up. 2531 02:21:30,160 --> 02:21:33,520 Speaker 1: On the break so our stations can identify themselves that line. 2532 02:21:33,560 --> 02:21:36,160 Speaker 1: But I call it to the studio. Just said that 2533 02:21:36,520 --> 02:21:39,080 Speaker 1: she's at the airport or he's at the airport. She 2534 02:21:39,160 --> 02:21:41,959 Speaker 1: spotted you at the League shippos. Right now he's talking. 2535 02:21:42,080 --> 02:21:44,760 Speaker 1: She says she's listening to the show from the American 2536 02:21:44,800 --> 02:21:46,960 Speaker 1: Airlines turner. So, I guess that's that's where you're speaking 2537 02:21:47,000 --> 02:21:49,360 Speaker 1: to us. Around the boy, the American Airlines. Look around, 2538 02:21:49,360 --> 02:21:54,720 Speaker 1: there's somebody listening to the program right now, Tony Malee watching. Yes, 2539 02:21:55,360 --> 02:21:58,120 Speaker 1: that's rated, that's live radio. Family. I mentioned it's four 2540 02:21:58,160 --> 02:21:59,680 Speaker 1: minutes away from the top now and we come back 2541 02:21:59,720 --> 02:22:03,600 Speaker 1: those The Counselor Chairman Phil Mendelson says he believes that 2542 02:22:03,760 --> 02:22:06,760 Speaker 1: protecting home rules should be the top priority for the 2543 02:22:06,840 --> 02:22:10,400 Speaker 1: next mayor of Washington, d C. What say you, Attorney Malik, 2544 02:22:10,400 --> 02:22:12,360 Speaker 1: I'll let you answer that when we get back. Family, 2545 02:22:12,400 --> 02:22:14,720 Speaker 1: you two can join this conversation with Attorney Malie Shabaz. 2546 02:22:14,840 --> 02:22:16,640 Speaker 1: Reach out to us at eight hundred four or five 2547 02:22:16,760 --> 02:22:19,920 Speaker 1: zero seventy eight seventy six. Men, take your phone calls. 2548 02:22:20,080 --> 02:22:22,560 Speaker 1: Next and Grand Rising family, thanks for rolling with us 2549 02:22:22,600 --> 02:22:25,680 Speaker 1: on this Tuesday morning. Our guest there is Attorney Elite Chabaz. 2550 02:22:25,760 --> 02:22:27,840 Speaker 1: He's the founder of the Black Lawyers for Justice and 2551 02:22:27,879 --> 02:22:30,200 Speaker 1: MoMA Tellor. We're going to speak with Priscilla Till she's 2552 02:22:30,280 --> 02:22:33,080 Speaker 1: running for the US Senate seed in Mississippi. But before 2553 02:22:33,080 --> 02:22:36,080 Speaker 1: we left for the break, I was asking the attorney 2554 02:22:36,120 --> 02:22:39,880 Speaker 1: Milik about Councilman Chairman Phil Mendlsson in Washington, d C. 2555 02:22:40,120 --> 02:22:42,680 Speaker 1: For the rest of the country, believes that protecting home 2556 02:22:42,760 --> 02:22:45,240 Speaker 1: rules should be the top priority for the next mayor. 2557 02:22:45,480 --> 02:22:57,920 Speaker 1: So what say you, counselor? Yeah, and your Yeah, your 2558 02:22:57,959 --> 02:22:58,760 Speaker 1: phone's going in and out. 2559 02:22:59,240 --> 02:22:59,800 Speaker 4: Can you hear me? 2560 02:23:00,440 --> 02:23:03,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going in and out. Yeah we can hear you. 2561 02:23:03,760 --> 02:23:09,560 Speaker 1: But go ahead. Yeah, you gotta getting a good spot 2562 02:23:09,600 --> 02:23:12,280 Speaker 1: at the airport there because it's going in and out. 2563 02:23:13,560 --> 02:23:15,959 Speaker 4: Okay, hold one second, I'm sort of. 2564 02:23:15,959 --> 02:23:18,720 Speaker 1: Lost in man, but yeah, the question family is a 2565 02:23:19,120 --> 02:23:22,480 Speaker 1: counselor in. Phil Mendelssohn says, he pleas protecting All. 2566 02:23:22,400 --> 02:23:26,160 Speaker 4: Right, go ahead, Sorry for the gap. Can you hear 2567 02:23:26,240 --> 02:23:27,640 Speaker 4: me now, Yeah, we can hear you. 2568 02:23:27,800 --> 02:23:28,600 Speaker 1: This sounds a lot better. 2569 02:23:29,120 --> 02:23:33,120 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm sorry. Okay, Phil Mendelssohn and his uh he 2570 02:23:33,200 --> 02:23:36,200 Speaker 4: says home rules to be the top priority you. I 2571 02:23:36,360 --> 02:23:42,960 Speaker 4: agree and disagree with Phil Mendelssohn. Of course, the District 2572 02:23:43,000 --> 02:23:46,280 Speaker 4: of Columbia should have political autonomy, should be able to 2573 02:23:46,360 --> 02:23:49,880 Speaker 4: make its own decisions and then run its own agencies 2574 02:23:49,959 --> 02:23:53,160 Speaker 4: and command its own budget and pass its own laws. 2575 02:23:53,240 --> 02:23:58,720 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess that's a fundamental democratic principle. However, 2576 02:23:59,680 --> 02:24:03,440 Speaker 4: if you acts the average voter in the black community 2577 02:24:03,840 --> 02:24:09,200 Speaker 4: how high home rule rates on their list, Uh, they 2578 02:24:09,280 --> 02:24:11,320 Speaker 4: might not even know what home rule. I mean, I'm 2579 02:24:11,320 --> 02:24:13,080 Speaker 4: not gonna say they don't know what home rule is, 2580 02:24:13,200 --> 02:24:15,360 Speaker 4: but they're not going to rate it as as as 2581 02:24:15,600 --> 02:24:19,440 Speaker 4: as high as filled Mendelssohn. And and that's simply because 2582 02:24:20,200 --> 02:24:25,840 Speaker 4: home rule has has not delivered for for our community 2583 02:24:26,360 --> 02:24:29,640 Speaker 4: the way it should have. And therefore, when encroachments or 2584 02:24:29,760 --> 02:24:35,160 Speaker 4: violations or usurpations of home rule take place, uh, there's 2585 02:24:35,240 --> 02:24:40,440 Speaker 4: no strong outcry in our community because the the existing 2586 02:24:40,600 --> 02:24:44,760 Speaker 4: political structure has not delivered. Now, now, to me, true 2587 02:24:44,840 --> 02:24:50,240 Speaker 4: democratic socialism means that the candidate is promising a moratorium 2588 02:24:50,400 --> 02:24:53,840 Speaker 4: on development in the district. I mean, straight up, the 2589 02:24:53,959 --> 02:24:56,920 Speaker 4: candidate that that that to me would be strong and 2590 02:24:57,360 --> 02:25:00,240 Speaker 4: and that would would represent what you call democra rad 2591 02:25:00,680 --> 02:25:05,280 Speaker 4: not centralism democratic. That's a path of principle democratic socialism, 2592 02:25:05,959 --> 02:25:09,039 Speaker 4: democratic socialism. Or is it going to make a true change? 2593 02:25:09,560 --> 02:25:12,640 Speaker 4: Is that candidate that is going to call for a 2594 02:25:13,120 --> 02:25:16,680 Speaker 4: and try to enforce a moratorium on development in the 2595 02:25:16,760 --> 02:25:19,560 Speaker 4: District of Columbia. And that is to say that the 2596 02:25:20,080 --> 02:25:23,199 Speaker 4: billions of dollars that come here, the billions of dollars 2597 02:25:23,240 --> 02:25:26,720 Speaker 4: that's being spent here, that that we're gonna, we're gonna 2598 02:25:27,000 --> 02:25:29,680 Speaker 4: blow the whistle and we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna 2599 02:25:29,760 --> 02:25:34,400 Speaker 4: stop this whole process and take account for this money 2600 02:25:34,800 --> 02:25:39,440 Speaker 4: and make sure that the wealth is at the the 2601 02:25:39,920 --> 02:25:46,200 Speaker 4: the the economic portfolio. The District of Columbia is turned 2602 02:25:46,280 --> 02:25:51,119 Speaker 4: away from. It's turned away in a completely different direction 2603 02:25:51,240 --> 02:25:53,400 Speaker 4: than it is right now. I mean, it should be 2604 02:25:53,640 --> 02:26:00,000 Speaker 4: moratorium on development of moratorium against condominiums are moratorium against 2605 02:26:00,959 --> 02:26:06,199 Speaker 4: developers are running the city, and and and those funds 2606 02:26:06,280 --> 02:26:13,560 Speaker 4: and those dollars could go to better, better programs, better 2607 02:26:14,160 --> 02:26:18,720 Speaker 4: jobs for at rich populations U a better way of 2608 02:26:18,920 --> 02:26:24,200 Speaker 4: life for the besieged black people or African American in 2609 02:26:24,320 --> 02:26:28,160 Speaker 4: the district. And and and so that's what Phil Mendelson 2610 02:26:28,200 --> 02:26:28,920 Speaker 4: should be talking. 2611 02:26:30,680 --> 02:26:35,240 Speaker 1: Got you five after topic before we speak to had Uh. 2612 02:26:35,760 --> 02:26:39,560 Speaker 1: Your phone's going in and out again. 2613 02:26:41,800 --> 02:26:44,120 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm sorry. What is he going to do with it? 2614 02:26:44,280 --> 02:26:46,640 Speaker 4: Is what I said? If he has home rule. 2615 02:26:47,560 --> 02:26:49,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question. But let me ask you 2616 02:26:49,560 --> 02:26:51,600 Speaker 1: this though, do you really think that the powers that 2617 02:26:51,680 --> 02:26:54,080 Speaker 1: be are going to allow another black person, a progressive 2618 02:26:54,080 --> 02:26:55,680 Speaker 1: black person, to run Washington. 2619 02:26:55,480 --> 02:27:03,800 Speaker 4: D C uh So, I don't know, I don't know. 2620 02:27:04,080 --> 02:27:06,600 Speaker 4: You see, you see will they allow? Is that what 2621 02:27:06,720 --> 02:27:07,000 Speaker 4: you say? 2622 02:27:07,120 --> 02:27:07,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? 2623 02:27:07,480 --> 02:27:07,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? 2624 02:27:07,720 --> 02:27:08,280 Speaker 1: Well will they? 2625 02:27:08,520 --> 02:27:08,680 Speaker 4: You know? 2626 02:27:08,760 --> 02:27:11,840 Speaker 1: Because most of the folks that are probably listened to 2627 02:27:11,959 --> 02:27:13,600 Speaker 1: us at east of the river, but the other folks 2628 02:27:13,840 --> 02:27:16,720 Speaker 1: in the other wards of Washington, DC, the folks who 2629 02:27:16,800 --> 02:27:20,119 Speaker 1: don't look like us, you think that they'll be comfortable 2630 02:27:20,240 --> 02:27:23,120 Speaker 1: having another black person run the city because the numbers 2631 02:27:23,160 --> 02:27:25,879 Speaker 1: are changing the math Mathew, as they say. 2632 02:27:25,800 --> 02:27:31,680 Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, oh absolutely, ye black black mayor? Will they 2633 02:27:31,800 --> 02:27:35,640 Speaker 4: comfortable with a black mayor? I mean, and I think 2634 02:27:35,680 --> 02:27:38,720 Speaker 4: the white population is higher around forty percent right now, 2635 02:27:39,280 --> 02:27:42,920 Speaker 4: certainly at least forty percent of the voting population. The 2636 02:27:43,040 --> 02:27:48,400 Speaker 4: answers are are well, they just they Miriol Bowser had support, 2637 02:27:49,440 --> 02:27:55,720 Speaker 4: universal support in this city. She won amongst all racests. 2638 02:27:55,760 --> 02:27:59,720 Speaker 4: So I don't think that they will be against a 2639 02:28:00,360 --> 02:28:03,160 Speaker 4: candidate on the basis of race. Not in the not 2640 02:28:03,360 --> 02:28:06,200 Speaker 4: in the district. Not in the district. Now. You can't 2641 02:28:06,240 --> 02:28:08,840 Speaker 4: be too black. Now. If you get to be in 2642 02:28:08,959 --> 02:28:10,560 Speaker 4: too black, it's a problem. 2643 02:28:12,360 --> 02:28:15,280 Speaker 1: Right now, tweeta says, are we as a people going 2644 02:28:15,360 --> 02:28:18,440 Speaker 1: to accept the responsibility to take charge of our self, family, community, 2645 02:28:18,520 --> 02:28:20,840 Speaker 1: and destiny. It's on us to save us and and 2646 02:28:21,320 --> 02:28:25,000 Speaker 1: make no excuses. So he said, basically, it says it's 2647 02:28:25,080 --> 02:28:28,480 Speaker 1: on us to make any change that we want your thoughts. 2648 02:28:29,840 --> 02:28:33,160 Speaker 4: Well, that's true, but it's also on us to make 2649 02:28:33,240 --> 02:28:39,240 Speaker 4: any political change. We can't the changes we won't, but 2650 02:28:39,320 --> 02:28:43,560 Speaker 4: we're talking here about political change and about about putting 2651 02:28:43,720 --> 02:28:48,480 Speaker 4: people in office that that control massive amounts of resources 2652 02:28:48,560 --> 02:28:51,959 Speaker 4: and finance that can that we're due to make that change, 2653 02:28:52,120 --> 02:28:54,720 Speaker 4: you see, because because because they when when when you 2654 02:28:54,879 --> 02:28:58,000 Speaker 4: when you're paying those taxes out your out your federal 2655 02:28:58,120 --> 02:29:02,400 Speaker 4: taxes and state taxes and store taxes, and you're financing 2656 02:29:02,840 --> 02:29:07,760 Speaker 4: the District of Columbia or you're financing Maryland, and you 2657 02:29:07,920 --> 02:29:10,840 Speaker 4: have an obligation to do something for self, to be 2658 02:29:11,400 --> 02:29:15,879 Speaker 4: politically aware and involved and to put people in office 2659 02:29:15,959 --> 02:29:18,959 Speaker 4: and to hold him accountable into and to also make 2660 02:29:19,040 --> 02:29:25,120 Speaker 4: political structures that are strong in our community. And so 2661 02:29:25,879 --> 02:29:28,840 Speaker 4: that's something that we do lack. We lack strong political 2662 02:29:29,040 --> 02:29:33,959 Speaker 4: structures in the community and organizations that could could throw 2663 02:29:34,040 --> 02:29:37,800 Speaker 4: our leverage around. But that could change that could change 2664 02:29:37,840 --> 02:29:41,000 Speaker 4: in the course of this mayorial race. I know the 2665 02:29:41,080 --> 02:29:43,160 Speaker 4: political I want to give a shout out too. I 2666 02:29:43,240 --> 02:29:45,720 Speaker 4: want to stopping and give a shout out to sister 2667 02:29:45,959 --> 02:29:50,199 Speaker 4: Ronda Hamilton. Sister Ronda Hamilton is one of the candidates 2668 02:29:50,240 --> 02:29:53,480 Speaker 4: and the mayorial race, and I know she's fighting hard 2669 02:29:53,600 --> 02:29:55,920 Speaker 4: and I know she cares about our people, and so 2670 02:29:56,000 --> 02:29:58,080 Speaker 4: I want to throw I want to give a thumbs 2671 02:29:58,160 --> 02:30:00,200 Speaker 4: up to her and be on the lookout. Y'all not 2672 02:30:00,280 --> 02:30:03,480 Speaker 4: have heard of Roder Hamilton, but but she is. She's 2673 02:30:03,560 --> 02:30:06,600 Speaker 4: a powerful little bulldozer that is going to be coming 2674 02:30:06,680 --> 02:30:10,880 Speaker 4: in shaking up things in this race. And so, uh, 2675 02:30:12,240 --> 02:30:15,680 Speaker 4: you've got to be politically and gotta be politically involved 2676 02:30:15,840 --> 02:30:21,480 Speaker 4: and and and you know, the best kind of politics 2677 02:30:21,640 --> 02:30:24,960 Speaker 4: is black nationalist politics. To be clear on this broadcast, 2678 02:30:25,320 --> 02:30:27,600 Speaker 4: in my judgment, got. 2679 02:30:27,520 --> 02:30:30,320 Speaker 1: You that's all right there because we'll get to Priscilla 2680 02:30:30,360 --> 02:30:32,320 Speaker 1: in the moment. But Thomas and Baltimore has a question 2681 02:30:32,400 --> 02:30:36,680 Speaker 1: for ash on line four, Grand rising, Thomas mal Shabaz. 2682 02:30:38,160 --> 02:30:43,120 Speaker 11: Grand Rising, Brother Quay and song Lake and brother uh 2683 02:30:43,959 --> 02:30:47,480 Speaker 11: lacom Salon. First, I want to say long live Chairman 2684 02:30:47,600 --> 02:30:51,879 Speaker 11: Fred Hampton. As we're coming on the eave of their 2685 02:30:52,160 --> 02:30:56,119 Speaker 11: planned assassination on our brothers, and I remember of our 2686 02:30:56,240 --> 02:31:01,040 Speaker 11: SOLDI uh. I want to say, I think I have 2687 02:31:01,200 --> 02:31:04,360 Speaker 11: to beg the difference with you. I think we have 2688 02:31:04,480 --> 02:31:07,959 Speaker 11: to prepare ourselves for the first white mayor. It would 2689 02:31:08,000 --> 02:31:11,160 Speaker 11: be nice if Robert White was the mayor. I mean 2690 02:31:11,280 --> 02:31:13,400 Speaker 11: that with that last name is kind of hard for me. 2691 02:31:13,560 --> 02:31:16,360 Speaker 11: But he seemed to be the only one who has 2692 02:31:16,480 --> 02:31:21,160 Speaker 11: been in opposition of the mayor throughout I guess say 2693 02:31:21,240 --> 02:31:25,760 Speaker 11: the last five years exactly. He's talking about how they're 2694 02:31:25,800 --> 02:31:28,760 Speaker 11: trying to curfew our children to death. He spoke on 2695 02:31:28,920 --> 02:31:32,000 Speaker 11: that not just recently, and that curfew is not gonna 2696 02:31:32,040 --> 02:31:34,800 Speaker 11: work without a plan. Now, I want to ask you 2697 02:31:34,920 --> 02:31:37,880 Speaker 11: this brother, because this has been the liptmus test, and 2698 02:31:38,000 --> 02:31:40,480 Speaker 11: I don't give a damn if I'm leading the crusade 2699 02:31:41,280 --> 02:31:43,680 Speaker 11: on this radio station. In the last month or so, 2700 02:31:44,360 --> 02:31:46,959 Speaker 11: we've been asking and I've been putting this question out 2701 02:31:47,000 --> 02:31:49,440 Speaker 11: here as a liptmus test, and I got to ask 2702 02:31:49,480 --> 02:31:53,080 Speaker 11: you this brother, with love and respect, how do you 2703 02:31:53,280 --> 02:31:56,320 Speaker 11: feel with this going on in Venzeuela right now, and 2704 02:31:56,440 --> 02:31:59,959 Speaker 11: this devil planning this water to take these people resource 2705 02:32:00,200 --> 02:32:04,160 Speaker 11: is in Nigeria and Venzeuela. Where do you stand on 2706 02:32:04,480 --> 02:32:08,080 Speaker 11: our young people born in the military. We need to 2707 02:32:08,160 --> 02:32:11,160 Speaker 11: hear where you stand. And that's all I ask. 2708 02:32:13,560 --> 02:32:18,560 Speaker 4: Okay, well, I appreciate that that's an easy question. I'll 2709 02:32:18,600 --> 02:32:22,800 Speaker 4: go to the first one first, or I still I 2710 02:32:22,920 --> 02:32:25,600 Speaker 4: honor you know, and I'm glad to divide with you 2711 02:32:25,720 --> 02:32:30,000 Speaker 4: on the radio broadcasts here. I don't believe that a 2712 02:32:30,160 --> 02:32:33,119 Speaker 4: white mayor can be elected in the district of Columbia 2713 02:32:34,600 --> 02:32:38,880 Speaker 4: because they will not get Black people will not go 2714 02:32:39,040 --> 02:32:41,520 Speaker 4: for that in the district. I mean, I don't care 2715 02:32:41,640 --> 02:32:43,640 Speaker 4: who it is. It could be Bill Clinton on the 2716 02:32:43,720 --> 02:32:47,720 Speaker 4: saxophone and he will not get more than twenty percent 2717 02:32:47,840 --> 02:32:51,240 Speaker 4: of the black vote in the district of Columbia. And so, 2718 02:32:51,760 --> 02:32:53,800 Speaker 4: and I don't even think that there's a real need 2719 02:32:53,959 --> 02:32:57,160 Speaker 4: for it. The point that I'm making that if you know, 2720 02:32:57,320 --> 02:33:02,400 Speaker 4: if it's white, people can get this across through black 2721 02:33:02,520 --> 02:33:06,800 Speaker 4: elected officials, so they don't have to have a white person. 2722 02:33:07,320 --> 02:33:10,560 Speaker 4: But we could differ on that. Uh, there's no question 2723 02:33:10,680 --> 02:33:15,520 Speaker 4: if you come to about the United States imperialist military 2724 02:33:15,680 --> 02:33:22,120 Speaker 4: intervention into Venezuela. Uh, that's strongly condemned that I just 2725 02:33:22,200 --> 02:33:26,360 Speaker 4: want to say that it's it's the Malik Shabbaz, Black 2726 02:33:26,480 --> 02:33:31,760 Speaker 4: Lawyers for Justice, the Black Panther Movement, the Afro Descendant 2727 02:33:31,959 --> 02:33:35,400 Speaker 4: Nation on behalf of the Honorable Silence Muhammad representing the 2728 02:33:35,440 --> 02:33:41,240 Speaker 4: Afro Descendants in the sphere in the strongest terms, we 2729 02:33:41,440 --> 02:33:45,960 Speaker 4: repudiate and denounce the United States government action under President 2730 02:33:46,080 --> 02:33:53,080 Speaker 4: Donald Trump's wicked, vicious, illegal, unlawful uh murder of of 2731 02:33:53,840 --> 02:34:00,200 Speaker 4: of of persons in the Western hemisphere. Uh just killing 2732 02:34:00,280 --> 02:34:04,680 Speaker 4: people outright shooting and murdering people with not an inkling 2733 02:34:04,760 --> 02:34:10,160 Speaker 4: of judicial justice. I mean, it's barbaric, it's bull it's illegal, 2734 02:34:11,320 --> 02:34:13,240 Speaker 4: and I could go on and on about that. Brother. 2735 02:34:13,400 --> 02:34:17,520 Speaker 4: I am firmly I am Malik Shabbaz firmly against United 2736 02:34:17,520 --> 02:34:22,520 Speaker 4: States imperialism, United States bombing and killing people and carrying 2737 02:34:22,560 --> 02:34:26,720 Speaker 4: out these policies under its backwards Monroe doctrine in the 2738 02:34:26,840 --> 02:34:31,400 Speaker 4: year twenty twenty five in terms of Nigeria and threatening 2739 02:34:32,280 --> 02:34:38,200 Speaker 4: to attack and violate the sovereignty of Nigeria. I think 2740 02:34:38,280 --> 02:34:43,640 Speaker 4: that that's more wickedness we should not Alloway, we should 2741 02:34:43,720 --> 02:34:46,840 Speaker 4: be loud and clear that we will not tolerate or 2742 02:34:46,920 --> 02:34:50,080 Speaker 4: that we will not I guess yeah, that we won't. 2743 02:34:50,640 --> 02:34:54,800 Speaker 4: The bombing of our of our mother because we're loud 2744 02:34:54,920 --> 02:34:59,000 Speaker 4: cadaffity to be assassinated. And certainly, while we recognize there's 2745 02:34:59,080 --> 02:35:04,120 Speaker 4: problems and with Boko Haram and and the Muslim Christian 2746 02:35:04,200 --> 02:35:08,000 Speaker 4: situation in Nigeria and the Sa Hill and Northern Africa, 2747 02:35:08,480 --> 02:35:13,000 Speaker 4: we definitely are not supporting attack on Africa, Donald Trump. 2748 02:35:13,560 --> 02:35:16,560 Speaker 4: We don't. We don't support an attack on Maduro. They're 2749 02:35:16,600 --> 02:35:21,240 Speaker 4: trying to kidnap Maduro like they did, Uh, like they 2750 02:35:21,320 --> 02:35:25,680 Speaker 4: did Manuel Noriega. I don't I don't know if he's 2751 02:35:26,040 --> 02:35:28,959 Speaker 4: into the dope like Noriega. I believe that they lying 2752 02:35:29,080 --> 02:35:32,880 Speaker 4: on Maduro. And either way you slice it. Uh, they 2753 02:35:32,959 --> 02:35:36,520 Speaker 4: after somebody's oil and resources and and they're playing the 2754 02:35:36,600 --> 02:35:40,880 Speaker 4: bully game in the Caribbean. It's it's not good and 2755 02:35:41,000 --> 02:35:42,600 Speaker 4: it's nasty, and I don't like it. 2756 02:35:44,160 --> 02:35:48,920 Speaker 1: All right. Fourteen the top. Let's Chilla telling Malik, Will 2757 02:35:48,920 --> 02:35:50,600 Speaker 1: you introduces her to the audience. 2758 02:35:52,200 --> 02:35:55,840 Speaker 4: Oh okay, right back here at home, we have a 2759 02:35:55,959 --> 02:35:59,720 Speaker 4: true freedom fighter now here on the line, a true 2760 02:35:59,800 --> 02:36:03,760 Speaker 4: chainampion for justice and and one that that will and 2761 02:36:04,160 --> 02:36:05,520 Speaker 4: make a difference. 2762 02:36:06,040 --> 02:36:06,160 Speaker 1: Uh. 2763 02:36:06,240 --> 02:36:08,920 Speaker 4: She's running for the United States, centering in the state 2764 02:36:09,000 --> 02:36:13,640 Speaker 4: of Mississippi. Uh, the state of h of the place 2765 02:36:13,680 --> 02:36:19,200 Speaker 4: of birth of my parents and grandparents. And he is 2766 02:36:19,320 --> 02:36:22,400 Speaker 4: a cousin of Immit Till. She comes from the legacy 2767 02:36:22,480 --> 02:36:27,440 Speaker 4: of Immit Till. All her life, she's been fighting for 2768 02:36:27,600 --> 02:36:31,440 Speaker 4: Immitill and and against all of the conspirators and cover 2769 02:36:31,600 --> 02:36:37,320 Speaker 4: ups that have faced uh the situation of the murder 2770 02:36:37,480 --> 02:36:41,720 Speaker 4: of Immitill. Uh. She's she's she's faced opposition, she's she's 2771 02:36:41,800 --> 02:36:45,720 Speaker 4: faced in justice. She's faced the white supremacists and and 2772 02:36:45,920 --> 02:36:49,360 Speaker 4: and people are following her around in the in the 2773 02:36:49,520 --> 02:36:52,600 Speaker 4: in the bowels of Mississippi. She stood up against Ranking 2774 02:36:52,720 --> 02:36:55,840 Speaker 4: County and Brian Bailey, and she stood up against the 2775 02:36:55,959 --> 02:36:58,440 Speaker 4: goon squad. I mean, do y'all want me to preach 2776 02:36:58,520 --> 02:37:01,600 Speaker 4: on this line, because I got bad black woman that 2777 02:37:01,760 --> 02:37:04,320 Speaker 4: is about to come on here, and she is a 2778 02:37:04,520 --> 02:37:08,840 Speaker 4: serious candidate to win the Democratic primary in March of 2779 02:37:08,959 --> 02:37:12,360 Speaker 4: twenty twenty six. I'm hoping she coming on right now, 2780 02:37:12,560 --> 02:37:16,960 Speaker 4: the honorable next senator from Mississippi, that's gonna take it 2781 02:37:17,040 --> 02:37:22,200 Speaker 4: out of Mecca's hands. Sister Priscilla W. Till, cousin of 2782 02:37:22,360 --> 02:37:23,000 Speaker 4: Emmitt Till. 2783 02:37:23,920 --> 02:37:27,480 Speaker 7: All right, Hello, can you all hear me? 2784 02:37:28,440 --> 02:37:28,959 Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am? 2785 02:37:30,640 --> 02:37:33,280 Speaker 7: Hello, Thank you mister Nelson to allow me on your 2786 02:37:33,320 --> 02:37:37,480 Speaker 7: show this morning. Thank you, honorable Malis Shabaz. I just 2787 02:37:38,160 --> 02:37:41,000 Speaker 7: I'm thankful. I want to come on here and let 2788 02:37:41,040 --> 02:37:43,600 Speaker 7: the people know that I am running for United States 2789 02:37:43,680 --> 02:37:47,080 Speaker 7: Senator for the state of Mississippi and why voters should 2790 02:37:47,200 --> 02:37:51,480 Speaker 7: choose me as the representative of the United States senator. See, 2791 02:37:52,760 --> 02:37:55,720 Speaker 7: my accountability has always been to the people and not 2792 02:37:55,879 --> 02:38:01,800 Speaker 7: political outsider. My real world experiences have equipped me to 2793 02:38:02,000 --> 02:38:07,640 Speaker 7: be a vocal voice for those that are often overlooked. Now, 2794 02:38:08,120 --> 02:38:12,360 Speaker 7: we are the poor state in Mississippi, and according to 2795 02:38:12,480 --> 02:38:16,000 Speaker 7: the Census Bureau, we fall on the privty level. But 2796 02:38:16,160 --> 02:38:19,000 Speaker 7: there are other issues that are more deeming here in 2797 02:38:19,080 --> 02:38:22,440 Speaker 7: the state of Mississippi that people fail to address and 2798 02:38:22,560 --> 02:38:26,680 Speaker 7: fail to talk about. And I do believe, mister Niffin, 2799 02:38:26,760 --> 02:38:30,720 Speaker 7: I can influence the legal system by introducing laws that 2800 02:38:30,920 --> 02:38:36,000 Speaker 7: help shape legal interpretations that address systemic and justices here 2801 02:38:36,040 --> 02:38:39,600 Speaker 7: in the state of Mississippi. Now, what Malik was saying 2802 02:38:39,640 --> 02:38:43,840 Speaker 7: about political structure, this is what Mississippi. 2803 02:38:43,160 --> 02:38:44,040 Speaker 5: Is crying out for. 2804 02:38:44,640 --> 02:38:48,560 Speaker 7: We no longer want the same politicians in the same 2805 02:38:48,680 --> 02:38:53,160 Speaker 7: structures because there are so many issues that are happening 2806 02:38:53,280 --> 02:38:55,840 Speaker 7: in the state of Mississippi right now. That needs to 2807 02:38:55,959 --> 02:39:01,240 Speaker 7: be addressed immediately, immediately. Every one is willing to talk 2808 02:39:01,320 --> 02:39:05,560 Speaker 7: about the six hundred and seventy two bodies flying behind 2809 02:39:05,640 --> 02:39:09,080 Speaker 7: the hands rank in jail house, and only two hundred 2810 02:39:09,120 --> 02:39:12,000 Speaker 7: and fifteen of those bodies have been identified. And when 2811 02:39:12,080 --> 02:39:14,400 Speaker 7: I say six and seven. 2812 02:39:15,360 --> 02:39:18,360 Speaker 1: Hold on the second, Sister Priscilla, Priscilla, hold on the second. 2813 02:39:18,800 --> 02:39:20,840 Speaker 1: This is interesting, but we've got to take a quick break. 2814 02:39:21,120 --> 02:39:23,400 Speaker 1: When we come back, please expound on that, because it 2815 02:39:23,400 --> 02:39:25,880 Speaker 1: is the first time I'm hearing that family just checking us. 2816 02:39:26,240 --> 02:39:29,680 Speaker 1: Eighteen minutes after the top of the Sister Priscilla Williams 2817 02:39:30,280 --> 02:39:32,280 Speaker 1: till Is joined us from Mississippi. She's running for the 2818 02:39:32,400 --> 02:39:34,959 Speaker 1: US Senate in that state. Also with US Attorney Malie 2819 02:39:35,000 --> 02:39:37,280 Speaker 1: Shabaze's got questions, three of them. Reach out to us 2820 02:39:37,320 --> 02:39:39,960 Speaker 1: at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight to 2821 02:39:40,040 --> 02:39:42,520 Speaker 1: seventy six. Will take your phone calls next and grand 2822 02:39:42,600 --> 02:39:44,440 Speaker 1: rising family, and thanks for sticking with us on this 2823 02:39:44,520 --> 02:39:46,560 Speaker 1: Tuesday morning. Twenty one minutes after the top of there, 2824 02:39:46,600 --> 02:39:48,720 Speaker 1: or the attorney Malie Shabazz, he's the founder of the 2825 02:39:48,760 --> 02:39:51,720 Speaker 1: Black Lawyers for Justice in ball along this morning, Sister 2826 02:39:51,800 --> 02:39:55,240 Speaker 1: Priscilla Williams Till. She's a relative of Emmitt Till. She's 2827 02:39:55,280 --> 02:39:58,200 Speaker 1: running for the US Senate seat in Mississippi. Home state 2828 02:39:58,240 --> 02:40:01,600 Speaker 1: of Mississippi. Before we left for the break, a sister, Priscilla, 2829 02:40:01,640 --> 02:40:04,040 Speaker 1: you'll tell us about some bodies behind a jail? Can 2830 02:40:04,080 --> 02:40:05,120 Speaker 1: you expound on that for us? 2831 02:40:05,520 --> 02:40:10,080 Speaker 7: Yes, sir, Yes, sir. We had just found in twenty 2832 02:40:10,160 --> 02:40:13,720 Speaker 7: twenty three, Miss Bernstein Wade was looking for her son 2833 02:40:14,560 --> 02:40:17,600 Speaker 7: and for six months they could not tell her where 2834 02:40:17,640 --> 02:40:20,080 Speaker 7: her son was. And when they did find her son, 2835 02:40:20,560 --> 02:40:23,480 Speaker 7: her son was placed in a proper grade at the 2836 02:40:23,640 --> 02:40:28,040 Speaker 7: Hines County Jail in Ramon, Mississippi. He was numbered six 2837 02:40:28,200 --> 02:40:33,640 Speaker 7: hundred and seventy two, and while his body was being exhumed, 2838 02:40:34,160 --> 02:40:37,480 Speaker 7: two more bodies, six hundred and seventy five bodies were 2839 02:40:37,520 --> 02:40:42,840 Speaker 7: eventually placed behind the Hines County ram In Jail in Mississippi, 2840 02:40:43,000 --> 02:40:48,800 Speaker 7: unidentified bodies. No one has yet come forward to find 2841 02:40:48,840 --> 02:40:52,600 Speaker 7: out who these bodies belonged to as far as the families, 2842 02:40:52,920 --> 02:40:55,560 Speaker 7: and we have no idea, but I feel like this 2843 02:40:55,800 --> 02:40:59,600 Speaker 7: is something hidden, a hidden situation here in the state 2844 02:40:59,640 --> 02:41:06,080 Speaker 7: of Missississippi. These are issues that deemed to be discussed investigator. 2845 02:41:06,720 --> 02:41:11,800 Speaker 7: And we have just in July seventy two people arrested 2846 02:41:12,120 --> 02:41:15,680 Speaker 7: with many people being found as far as human trafficking 2847 02:41:16,160 --> 02:41:20,199 Speaker 7: sex crime out of the state of Mississippi. July twenty 2848 02:41:20,280 --> 02:41:23,440 Speaker 7: twenty five, that did not make news. We just had 2849 02:41:23,480 --> 02:41:28,280 Speaker 7: a vast police officers arrested, up to eight to thirteen 2850 02:41:28,400 --> 02:41:32,280 Speaker 7: police officers arrested. No one is talking about that. We 2851 02:41:32,520 --> 02:41:37,680 Speaker 7: have two hundred and sixty seven law enforcement agencies right 2852 02:41:37,800 --> 02:41:41,640 Speaker 7: now here in the state of Mississippi. Only ninety one 2853 02:41:41,800 --> 02:41:47,520 Speaker 7: are reporting racial hate crimes, hate crimes, racial incidents, women 2854 02:41:47,640 --> 02:41:51,600 Speaker 7: calling in for domestic violence. We have white people are 2855 02:41:51,680 --> 02:41:53,920 Speaker 7: reaching out to us, white men. 2856 02:41:53,879 --> 02:41:54,680 Speaker 5: Reaching out to us. 2857 02:41:54,800 --> 02:41:59,400 Speaker 7: Because what's happening is no one is willing to address 2858 02:41:59,720 --> 02:42:03,840 Speaker 7: the i supremacist issues that are going here, that are 2859 02:42:03,959 --> 02:42:07,800 Speaker 7: trying to control the narrative here in the state of Mississippi. 2860 02:42:08,160 --> 02:42:12,320 Speaker 7: This is what I'm fighting against. Yes, my platform focuses 2861 02:42:12,360 --> 02:42:18,000 Speaker 7: on economic justice and racial equity, infrastructure and environmental justice, 2862 02:42:18,400 --> 02:42:22,120 Speaker 7: health care assets and ensuring universal health care. We can 2863 02:42:22,200 --> 02:42:25,120 Speaker 7: possibly get it to the people within the state of Mississippi. 2864 02:42:25,360 --> 02:42:28,039 Speaker 7: But we have an issue going on right now here 2865 02:42:28,120 --> 02:42:30,960 Speaker 7: in the state of Mississippi because we have no idea 2866 02:42:31,480 --> 02:42:34,440 Speaker 7: what is going on when it comes to crimes of 2867 02:42:34,560 --> 02:42:37,800 Speaker 7: racial injustice here. Like I said, you got ninety one 2868 02:42:37,920 --> 02:42:41,720 Speaker 7: police departments are reported out of two hundred and sixty 2869 02:42:41,800 --> 02:42:47,120 Speaker 7: seven incidents or two hundred and sixty seven law enforcement 2870 02:42:47,200 --> 02:42:50,800 Speaker 7: agencies here that are not reported. So we need some 2871 02:42:51,160 --> 02:42:54,720 Speaker 7: boots on the ground. We need federal investigations and to 2872 02:42:54,840 --> 02:42:58,119 Speaker 7: the police departments here in the state of Mississippi right now. 2873 02:42:59,080 --> 02:43:03,160 Speaker 7: This is what my cry is. And when people tell me, 2874 02:43:03,560 --> 02:43:06,039 Speaker 7: they look at the fact that I am the relative 2875 02:43:06,120 --> 02:43:09,000 Speaker 7: of Mamie Till. Oh you're running on the name of 2876 02:43:09,120 --> 02:43:13,199 Speaker 7: tell no. If you know my background, I'm a sociology teacher. 2877 02:43:13,520 --> 02:43:17,080 Speaker 7: I have been a project coordinator in the community healthcare 2878 02:43:17,200 --> 02:43:20,440 Speaker 7: feel I have also been on the Heines County Human 2879 02:43:20,560 --> 02:43:24,720 Speaker 7: Resource Agency board that oversaw seventy seven million dollars where 2880 02:43:24,760 --> 02:43:27,840 Speaker 7: we give back to the community here in Hines County. 2881 02:43:28,080 --> 02:43:30,959 Speaker 7: But people tend to say, oh Till but they don't 2882 02:43:30,959 --> 02:43:34,280 Speaker 7: want to talk about my opponent, Miss Heine Smith, who 2883 02:43:34,400 --> 02:43:37,000 Speaker 7: her first One of her first lives she introduced was 2884 02:43:37,520 --> 02:43:40,440 Speaker 7: duck hunting season that would last to the end of 2885 02:43:40,560 --> 02:43:44,440 Speaker 7: January thirty first. But see, you see how the difference 2886 02:43:44,480 --> 02:43:49,720 Speaker 7: it is where you okay, they're okay to want her, 2887 02:43:50,680 --> 02:43:53,040 Speaker 7: the same lady that made the statement that if she 2888 02:43:53,160 --> 02:43:56,160 Speaker 7: could be invited to a public hanging, she'd sit on 2889 02:43:56,280 --> 02:43:58,840 Speaker 7: the front row. But with me being the cousin of 2890 02:43:58,959 --> 02:44:01,959 Speaker 7: Emmy Till, I'm not supposed to come out and talk 2891 02:44:02,040 --> 02:44:04,520 Speaker 7: about the issues that are plaguing us here in the 2892 02:44:04,560 --> 02:44:08,280 Speaker 7: state of Mississippi when it comes to crimes a racial injustice. 2893 02:44:09,160 --> 02:44:11,600 Speaker 7: You tell me what is going on in our counties 2894 02:44:11,720 --> 02:44:15,320 Speaker 7: right now when we don't have broadband access to internet. 2895 02:44:16,520 --> 02:44:19,560 Speaker 7: That's we don't know what's going on in these counties 2896 02:44:19,640 --> 02:44:22,840 Speaker 7: right now. And then we have the president come twenty 2897 02:44:22,920 --> 02:44:27,560 Speaker 7: twenty six, he's dismantling these agencies that do help with 2898 02:44:27,720 --> 02:44:32,000 Speaker 7: crimes are racial injustice. So I'm definitely that person that's 2899 02:44:32,040 --> 02:44:36,040 Speaker 7: willing to fight, that's willing to introduce and create laws 2900 02:44:36,120 --> 02:44:39,880 Speaker 7: and bring it to legislation on investigating and restructuring the 2901 02:44:40,440 --> 02:44:42,560 Speaker 7: police departments, police reform. 2902 02:44:43,720 --> 02:44:46,440 Speaker 1: So that's what to ask you this, Priscilla. Let me 2903 02:44:46,480 --> 02:44:48,560 Speaker 1: ask you this, though there's a lot of hapathy in 2904 02:44:48,600 --> 02:44:50,800 Speaker 1: the black community, not even the black man in the 2905 02:44:50,879 --> 02:44:53,360 Speaker 1: country when it comes to voting. Folks are not going 2906 02:44:53,440 --> 02:44:55,720 Speaker 1: to the polls. What are you gonna say, What are 2907 02:44:55,720 --> 02:44:58,760 Speaker 1: you gonna get to motivate them to go and cast 2908 02:44:58,800 --> 02:45:00,760 Speaker 1: their ballots? What are you tell them? 2909 02:45:02,480 --> 02:45:07,360 Speaker 7: My theory is go door to door, introduce myself and 2910 02:45:07,480 --> 02:45:11,280 Speaker 7: tell them about the policies, the platform excuse me, the 2911 02:45:11,440 --> 02:45:15,240 Speaker 7: platforms that I am bringing to these people to the 2912 02:45:15,320 --> 02:45:20,200 Speaker 7: state of Mississippi. As far as the young people giving back, 2913 02:45:20,360 --> 02:45:23,080 Speaker 7: telling the young people that hey, look, we can promote 2914 02:45:23,120 --> 02:45:27,440 Speaker 7: career development centers to these young people because not all 2915 02:45:27,560 --> 02:45:29,800 Speaker 7: young people are interested in going to to to four 2916 02:45:29,879 --> 02:45:34,360 Speaker 7: year university. So apprenticeship mentorship programs in high schools that 2917 02:45:34,480 --> 02:45:39,000 Speaker 7: would give them towards progress and success right or partnerships 2918 02:45:39,240 --> 02:45:43,760 Speaker 7: with local businesses pay the internships, transportation vouss for these 2919 02:45:43,800 --> 02:45:47,200 Speaker 7: young people to get to jobs to job training. So 2920 02:45:47,440 --> 02:45:51,400 Speaker 7: I think that is very important. We need a mass 2921 02:45:51,520 --> 02:45:55,240 Speaker 7: voter registration drive and that is grassroots going to door 2922 02:45:55,280 --> 02:45:57,920 Speaker 7: to door. And I think it'll be very vital for 2923 02:45:58,120 --> 02:46:01,000 Speaker 7: me to go out into the community because, like I said, 2924 02:46:01,080 --> 02:46:04,040 Speaker 7: with me being the relative of Mitia, I have many 2925 02:46:04,160 --> 02:46:06,840 Speaker 7: white races that have come out saying we're gonna make 2926 02:46:06,879 --> 02:46:10,560 Speaker 7: sure don't get behind her, don't support her. That's because 2927 02:46:10,640 --> 02:46:13,240 Speaker 7: I have been an advocate. I have the enmity of 2928 02:46:13,560 --> 02:46:17,200 Speaker 7: Justice for Families Foundation here in Mississippi. I have always 2929 02:46:17,400 --> 02:46:21,440 Speaker 7: went after lynching cases here. Crimes are racial injustice here, 2930 02:46:22,920 --> 02:46:26,200 Speaker 7: in justice situations here. While I have been vocal and 2931 02:46:26,280 --> 02:46:29,920 Speaker 7: the people don't like that, I have researched how many 2932 02:46:30,080 --> 02:46:33,200 Speaker 7: racist organizations we still have here in the state of Mississippi, 2933 02:46:33,440 --> 02:46:36,200 Speaker 7: and a lot of them are sheriffs in these rural counties. 2934 02:46:36,440 --> 02:46:40,080 Speaker 7: They don't want me as the next United States Senator 2935 02:46:40,320 --> 02:46:43,520 Speaker 7: because what I will bring, what I will expose, and 2936 02:46:43,640 --> 02:46:45,880 Speaker 7: the money that I will make sure coming to the 2937 02:46:45,959 --> 02:46:51,520 Speaker 7: state of Mississippi, and the accountability and transparency will be shown. Period. 2938 02:46:51,840 --> 02:46:55,200 Speaker 7: So I'm asking the voters and the people that are listening, yes, 2939 02:46:55,360 --> 02:46:58,800 Speaker 7: I am someone they should get behind as support one 2940 02:46:58,920 --> 02:47:02,040 Speaker 7: hundred and ten percent, because now it's the time for change. 2941 02:47:02,760 --> 02:47:06,240 Speaker 7: It is time because people, anytime you have a United 2942 02:47:06,280 --> 02:47:10,119 Speaker 7: States Senator is talking about introducing laws about duck hunting 2943 02:47:10,160 --> 02:47:13,640 Speaker 7: season to the end of January thirty first, but I'm 2944 02:47:13,720 --> 02:47:16,119 Speaker 7: not allowed to bring up the six hundred and seventy 2945 02:47:16,160 --> 02:47:20,200 Speaker 7: two unidentified bodies here in the state right now in 2946 02:47:20,400 --> 02:47:23,959 Speaker 7: Hines County, Jackson, Mississippi. That's a problem. They don't want 2947 02:47:24,000 --> 02:47:26,880 Speaker 7: to talk about the seventy two people arrested for such 2948 02:47:27,600 --> 02:47:31,200 Speaker 7: human trafficking here just in July. You don't want to 2949 02:47:31,240 --> 02:47:34,200 Speaker 7: talk about those issues. But this is Mississippi is a 2950 02:47:34,360 --> 02:47:38,320 Speaker 7: hot bed for what is going on in Washington, d C. 2951 02:47:39,080 --> 02:47:42,840 Speaker 7: This is the problem. They're calling Mississippi the little Washington 2952 02:47:42,959 --> 02:47:46,560 Speaker 7: d C. And that's because no one is willing to 2953 02:47:46,720 --> 02:47:49,160 Speaker 7: come out challenge what's going on here. 2954 02:47:49,760 --> 02:47:53,640 Speaker 1: I'm not there here, a sister, Priscilla. Yeah, let me 2955 02:47:53,920 --> 02:47:57,080 Speaker 1: hear thirty. Let me ask you this question. Those bodies 2956 02:47:57,240 --> 02:48:01,720 Speaker 1: that were found at the behind us Hins County, I 2957 02:48:01,760 --> 02:48:04,280 Speaker 1: guess the jail where they mostly black bodies or were 2958 02:48:04,320 --> 02:48:05,600 Speaker 1: they're all kinds. 2959 02:48:06,800 --> 02:48:11,199 Speaker 7: Yes, ma'am, yes, sir, mostly black bodies, mostly black bodies. 2960 02:48:11,280 --> 02:48:15,520 Speaker 7: And what happened. Department of Justice then intervening and they 2961 02:48:15,640 --> 02:48:19,560 Speaker 7: allowed up to two hundred and fifteen bodies to be identified, 2962 02:48:19,920 --> 02:48:23,080 Speaker 7: and they stopped it. They stopped it. They no longer 2963 02:48:23,160 --> 02:48:27,120 Speaker 7: allowed them to continue to identify the rest of the 2964 02:48:27,920 --> 02:48:30,720 Speaker 7: six hundred and seventy five bodies. So you have two 2965 02:48:30,959 --> 02:48:33,800 Speaker 7: fifteen that they did identify and they left them on 2966 02:48:33,920 --> 02:48:34,560 Speaker 7: the rest of them. 2967 02:48:35,320 --> 02:48:39,520 Speaker 1: So, yeah, but on those people, those people, those bodies 2968 02:48:39,600 --> 02:48:42,760 Speaker 1: that they've They've got relatives of people saying, you know, 2969 02:48:43,040 --> 02:48:46,440 Speaker 1: my son or my uncle or my dad disappeared. Are 2970 02:48:46,440 --> 02:48:48,600 Speaker 1: you hearing those stories to collaborate. 2971 02:48:48,959 --> 02:48:49,400 Speaker 4: You, sir? 2972 02:48:49,800 --> 02:48:53,040 Speaker 7: And this is the craziest thing, mister Nelson in my 2973 02:48:53,320 --> 02:48:59,760 Speaker 7: inbox on Facebook, Fred Chamberlain's another young man who's fighting 2974 02:49:00,120 --> 02:49:04,360 Speaker 7: alongside me. Others. We are getting so many email I 2975 02:49:04,440 --> 02:49:09,040 Speaker 7: mean inboxes, emails reaching out to please help me. This 2976 02:49:09,280 --> 02:49:12,680 Speaker 7: is going on. I'm missing this person here in Mississippi. 2977 02:49:13,160 --> 02:49:17,520 Speaker 7: But what happens is the media, the media is ciser 2978 02:49:17,920 --> 02:49:21,160 Speaker 7: not to report this. Do you hear me? So it's 2979 02:49:21,720 --> 02:49:24,000 Speaker 7: verify to me, tooth and nail. They're making sure that 2980 02:49:24,160 --> 02:49:26,720 Speaker 7: I'm not heard. I even call for a press company. 2981 02:49:26,760 --> 02:49:29,760 Speaker 7: When we talked about it's not benefits not being released 2982 02:49:29,800 --> 02:49:32,680 Speaker 7: to shut down, No one came from the media. They 2983 02:49:32,800 --> 02:49:35,680 Speaker 7: didn't want to hear me. They don't want this out. 2984 02:49:36,200 --> 02:49:39,680 Speaker 7: So this is what's important. This is how change happens 2985 02:49:39,840 --> 02:49:43,240 Speaker 7: when you allow this information to go out here, and 2986 02:49:43,360 --> 02:49:45,880 Speaker 7: you allowed the government at the top to say, hey, 2987 02:49:45,959 --> 02:49:48,279 Speaker 7: look what's going on in the state of Mississippi because 2988 02:49:48,560 --> 02:49:52,080 Speaker 7: they don't want that to happen. Anytime you had again, 2989 02:49:52,360 --> 02:49:57,720 Speaker 7: United States Senator James o'eastland intervene in the Emmittial trial. 2990 02:49:58,280 --> 02:50:04,000 Speaker 7: The United States Senator now nineteen fifty five intervening Emmitia's trial, 2991 02:50:04,200 --> 02:50:08,600 Speaker 7: who also was over the Judiciary Committee in Washington, d C. 2992 02:50:08,879 --> 02:50:13,240 Speaker 7: During this time that slashed every civil rights bill law 2993 02:50:13,320 --> 02:50:16,040 Speaker 7: that had come across his desk. But this man here 2994 02:50:16,120 --> 02:50:21,320 Speaker 7: in Mississippi comes to Immitil trial. Bring Emitil daddy's records 2995 02:50:21,560 --> 02:50:25,520 Speaker 7: to the trial that helped acquit JW. Milom and Rob Bryant. 2996 02:50:27,200 --> 02:50:30,440 Speaker 7: This is what we're dealing with with Mississippi today. From 2997 02:50:30,680 --> 02:50:33,959 Speaker 7: nineteen fifty five all the way to twenty twenty five. 2998 02:50:34,280 --> 02:50:38,640 Speaker 7: The same people that allowed Mitill murderers to go free 2999 02:50:38,760 --> 02:50:42,440 Speaker 7: are the same people running Washington, d C. And let's 3000 02:50:42,520 --> 02:50:46,040 Speaker 7: not talk about the wirelfare fried. The wirelfare money that 3001 02:50:46,240 --> 02:50:50,000 Speaker 7: was stolen. You want to come after Shuckwey Lamond, former 3002 02:50:50,080 --> 02:50:56,280 Speaker 7: marriage shuckway Lamoma, Jody Owns, Angelique Lee, Aaron Banks, these 3003 02:50:56,440 --> 02:50:59,800 Speaker 7: five black people that so happened supposed to Ben and 3004 02:51:00,200 --> 02:51:04,119 Speaker 7: Uh and bye with taking money Brian five thousand dollars, okay, 3005 02:51:04,280 --> 02:51:08,360 Speaker 7: But you have Phil Brand the form of governor. You 3006 02:51:08,480 --> 02:51:12,480 Speaker 7: have Nation new who owned the school. You have Brett Farb, 3007 02:51:12,600 --> 02:51:16,119 Speaker 7: a pro football player. Every last one of them stole 3008 02:51:16,320 --> 02:51:19,160 Speaker 7: over millions of dollars from out of the miles of 3009 02:51:19,320 --> 02:51:23,280 Speaker 7: women and families, but none of them were ever take 3010 02:51:23,520 --> 02:51:26,960 Speaker 7: in the media like they did with Subway. Every banks 3011 02:51:27,080 --> 02:51:29,440 Speaker 7: Jody on that they would be sentenced, that they will 3012 02:51:29,480 --> 02:51:31,760 Speaker 7: go to jail, that they will go to trial. So 3013 02:51:32,120 --> 02:51:36,800 Speaker 7: I'm leading that if they bring former mayor Jody Ons, 3014 02:51:36,879 --> 02:51:41,320 Speaker 7: Ajemick Lee and these others to a trial, we're gonna protest, 3015 02:51:41,480 --> 02:51:44,160 Speaker 7: and I'm gonna be leading because there's no way you 3016 02:51:44,320 --> 02:51:47,840 Speaker 7: don't bring the former governor, then fish the attorney general. 3017 02:51:48,400 --> 02:51:53,360 Speaker 1: Right then hold up right here, old facila, hold that 3018 02:51:53,400 --> 02:51:55,320 Speaker 1: thing right there, because a tournament league wants to ask 3019 02:51:55,360 --> 02:51:57,560 Speaker 1: you a question real quick. He's twenty seven minutes away 3020 02:51:57,560 --> 02:52:00,520 Speaker 1: from the top of them. You're right, brother, She's on fire. 3021 02:52:00,600 --> 02:52:04,440 Speaker 4: But ahead, Well, look, I know we gotta go to 3022 02:52:04,560 --> 02:52:07,080 Speaker 4: a break, but we gotta look y'all. Are y'all are 3023 02:52:07,240 --> 02:52:10,840 Speaker 4: listening to the kind of political candidate that we need 3024 02:52:10,959 --> 02:52:13,800 Speaker 4: to put into the United States Senate? You you are 3025 02:52:13,879 --> 02:52:19,040 Speaker 4: hearing the authenticity and the passion of somebody that that 3026 02:52:19,280 --> 02:52:22,120 Speaker 4: knows our struggle come from our struggle and that we 3027 02:52:22,240 --> 02:52:24,879 Speaker 4: can get behind and that and that won't sell us out. 3028 02:52:24,920 --> 02:52:28,360 Speaker 4: And you and you feel the passion. Is she gonna win? 3029 02:52:28,640 --> 02:52:31,320 Speaker 4: All she got to do is campaign and she's a 3030 02:52:31,480 --> 02:52:34,560 Speaker 4: guaranteed winner. All she got to do is campaign and 3031 02:52:34,640 --> 02:52:37,320 Speaker 4: we and we're making sure that. So I think you 3032 02:52:37,400 --> 02:52:37,800 Speaker 4: gotta go. 3033 02:52:37,920 --> 02:52:41,119 Speaker 1: To a break before we go to break, Yeah, before. 3034 02:52:42,600 --> 02:52:45,200 Speaker 4: You kill y'all are listening to y'all are listening to 3035 02:52:45,440 --> 02:52:50,560 Speaker 4: Priscilla W. Till, the next United States Senator from Mississippi. 3036 02:52:50,800 --> 02:52:54,320 Speaker 4: And not only is she gonna represent Mississippi, don't represent 3037 02:52:54,480 --> 02:52:56,880 Speaker 4: all of us, and she's gonna shake up this country. 3038 02:52:57,800 --> 02:53:00,400 Speaker 1: Hu Shay, before we go to break. Slash calling from 3039 02:53:00,440 --> 02:53:02,360 Speaker 1: Detroit wants to speak through it. He's on line three, 3040 02:53:02,760 --> 02:53:05,600 Speaker 1: Grand Rising sly On with Priscilla Williams Till. 3041 02:53:06,920 --> 02:53:14,000 Speaker 12: Grand Rising Uh, Brother Carl and Ministership Baz and Madam Till. Yes, sir, 3042 02:53:14,200 --> 02:53:18,240 Speaker 12: my question, my question for you, Madam Till. I have 3043 02:53:18,360 --> 02:53:24,600 Speaker 12: a very close friend. He lives in Hattiesburg and he's 3044 02:53:24,720 --> 02:53:28,600 Speaker 12: what they he's what they call a returning citizen. I'm 3045 02:53:28,640 --> 02:53:31,680 Speaker 12: going to do everything I can here in Detroit to 3046 02:53:31,879 --> 02:53:38,120 Speaker 12: throw support your your direction. But it's but what is 3047 02:53:38,160 --> 02:53:42,199 Speaker 12: it that you can do, because now that he's paid 3048 02:53:42,240 --> 02:53:47,000 Speaker 12: his dues, he's not allowed to vote. And I and 3049 02:53:47,200 --> 02:53:50,120 Speaker 12: and I believe in Mississippi as well as other states, 3050 02:53:50,160 --> 02:53:53,360 Speaker 12: once you paid paid your dues, you should be able 3051 02:53:53,360 --> 02:53:53,760 Speaker 12: to vote. 3052 02:53:55,600 --> 02:53:59,959 Speaker 7: Yes, sir, Yes, sir. And there should bellows that look 3053 02:54:00,200 --> 02:54:03,720 Speaker 7: into that. I know they have a first time offenders 3054 02:54:03,800 --> 02:54:07,560 Speaker 7: program where they're allowed to vote, but it depends on 3055 02:54:07,920 --> 02:54:14,000 Speaker 7: the charge of the crime and how many times a 3056 02:54:14,120 --> 02:54:18,640 Speaker 7: person has been in the system for them to allow 3057 02:54:18,720 --> 02:54:21,640 Speaker 7: them to vote. Now, change is coming, but I will 3058 02:54:21,760 --> 02:54:24,520 Speaker 7: be a part of the legislation to allow their change 3059 02:54:24,560 --> 02:54:24,840 Speaker 7: to come. 3060 02:54:26,040 --> 02:54:31,879 Speaker 12: Okay, fair enough, I'll be I just looked up your 3061 02:54:31,920 --> 02:54:36,039 Speaker 12: Facebook page. I'll be trying to do everything I can. 3062 02:54:36,160 --> 02:54:39,680 Speaker 12: Like I said, to throw support your way and keep 3063 02:54:39,760 --> 02:54:40,119 Speaker 12: in touch. 3064 02:54:42,400 --> 02:54:47,040 Speaker 7: My website is till till T I L L the 3065 02:54:47,160 --> 02:54:51,959 Speaker 7: number four you and sent it twenty twenty six dot com. 3066 02:54:52,600 --> 02:54:57,280 Speaker 7: Please donate reach out to me again. That's till TI 3067 02:54:57,760 --> 02:55:02,520 Speaker 7: L The number four you as Senate is e A 3068 02:55:03,000 --> 02:55:06,160 Speaker 7: I mean, is E N A t E twenty twenty 3069 02:55:06,240 --> 02:55:09,920 Speaker 7: six dot com? T you four you is Senate twenty 3070 02:55:10,320 --> 02:55:10,960 Speaker 7: six dot com. 3071 02:55:11,720 --> 02:55:14,879 Speaker 1: All right, got it, and good luck Okay, thanks a lot, 3072 02:55:14,959 --> 02:55:17,120 Speaker 1: and how on fellas we take a quick break here. 3073 02:55:18,440 --> 02:55:21,480 Speaker 1: Listen you all right, let's the and he thanks you. 3074 02:55:21,520 --> 02:55:23,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna take the break when we come back. I 3075 02:55:23,160 --> 02:55:25,680 Speaker 1: know Larry North Carolina wants to talk to you as 3076 02:55:25,720 --> 02:55:28,000 Speaker 1: well as Turning Belik has another question for your family. 3077 02:55:28,000 --> 02:55:31,320 Speaker 1: YouTube can join our conversation with Priscilla Williams Till. She's 3078 02:55:31,360 --> 02:55:33,959 Speaker 1: running for the US Senate in Mississippi. Reach us at 3079 02:55:34,000 --> 02:55:36,879 Speaker 1: eight hundred and four five zero seventy eight seventy six 3080 02:55:36,920 --> 02:55:39,240 Speaker 1: and we'll take your phone calls next on this Tuesday morning, 3081 02:55:39,320 --> 02:55:41,879 Speaker 1: second day of December. I guess it's a Turning League Chabal. 3082 02:55:42,000 --> 02:55:44,879 Speaker 1: She's brought along with her sister, Priscilla Williams Tills. She's 3083 02:55:44,920 --> 02:55:47,280 Speaker 1: a relative of Emmett Till and she's running for the 3084 02:55:47,360 --> 02:55:50,480 Speaker 1: US Senate in Mississippi. Before we left the break, I 3085 02:55:50,560 --> 02:55:52,600 Speaker 1: told you that Larry and North Carolina has a question 3086 02:55:52,680 --> 02:55:55,600 Speaker 1: for Pricila. He's on line four at Grand Rising. Larry 3087 02:55:55,640 --> 02:55:56,920 Speaker 1: a question for Priscilla Till. 3088 02:55:58,400 --> 02:55:59,680 Speaker 11: Oh, yes, Grand Rising. 3089 02:56:00,400 --> 02:56:00,520 Speaker 4: Uh. 3090 02:56:01,400 --> 02:56:04,320 Speaker 11: This is the type of sister we leave a sister 3091 02:56:04,480 --> 02:56:10,120 Speaker 11: soldier on Capitol Hill. Sister, we love your spirit. I 3092 02:56:10,240 --> 02:56:14,400 Speaker 11: want to ask you, where do you stand on trade schools? 3093 02:56:15,200 --> 02:56:18,520 Speaker 11: And where do you stand on reparations? And before you 3094 02:56:18,680 --> 02:56:22,240 Speaker 11: answer that to Malik, she didn't answer the question. Brother, 3095 02:56:22,720 --> 02:56:26,880 Speaker 11: we asked you should black people join the US military? 3096 02:56:31,120 --> 02:56:31,440 Speaker 7: Okay? 3097 02:56:32,720 --> 02:56:35,760 Speaker 4: Right in the US? Okay, Well, I'm gonna get back 3098 02:56:35,800 --> 02:56:37,760 Speaker 4: to that. I'm gonna let her have the floor right now, 3099 02:56:37,800 --> 02:56:40,840 Speaker 4: I get back to that. Let me just let her 3100 02:56:40,879 --> 02:56:42,840 Speaker 4: have this. Let me just say one thing. If y'all 3101 02:56:42,959 --> 02:56:46,960 Speaker 4: want to contribute or donate, she gave the website, but 3102 02:56:47,080 --> 02:56:49,560 Speaker 4: here's a number we're gonna coordinate. If y'all like what 3103 02:56:49,640 --> 02:56:53,840 Speaker 4: you're hearing, you can text two O two three six 3104 02:56:54,120 --> 02:56:57,920 Speaker 4: nine nine nine eight six two O two three six 3105 02:56:58,160 --> 02:57:01,560 Speaker 4: nine nine nine eight six if you want to support 3106 02:57:01,640 --> 02:57:05,080 Speaker 4: the till campaign for US Senate. So what I'm gonna 3107 02:57:05,080 --> 02:57:06,640 Speaker 4: do is I come back to that, but I'll let 3108 02:57:06,640 --> 02:57:09,160 Speaker 4: her have the floor and I'll answer that at the end. 3109 02:57:09,560 --> 02:57:15,280 Speaker 7: Okay, Okay, thank you for asking that question. Like I said, 3110 02:57:15,320 --> 02:57:18,640 Speaker 7: I'm a teacher and to sit and listen to my students. 3111 02:57:19,720 --> 02:57:22,520 Speaker 7: I know majority a lot of them do. They do 3112 02:57:22,760 --> 02:57:24,840 Speaker 7: not want to go to a too or four year college. 3113 02:57:25,200 --> 02:57:31,080 Speaker 7: So definitely workforce training programs, career development centers. Trade school 3114 02:57:31,200 --> 02:57:34,800 Speaker 7: would definitely be a musk and that's what Mississippi does 3115 02:57:34,920 --> 02:57:38,400 Speaker 7: not have enough of, and that is one of my 3116 02:57:38,640 --> 02:57:41,920 Speaker 7: policies while planning a law that I do want to 3117 02:57:42,040 --> 02:57:48,200 Speaker 7: introduce is job creation and workforce training development at least 3118 02:57:48,840 --> 02:57:54,000 Speaker 7: and increasing the living minimum wage because that definitely will 3119 02:57:54,320 --> 02:57:57,720 Speaker 7: start with the success of our young people and to 3120 02:57:57,879 --> 02:57:59,920 Speaker 7: keep them from moving out of the state of Missisis 3121 02:58:00,680 --> 02:58:04,320 Speaker 7: because there's not enough program and they're not paying them, 3122 02:58:04,400 --> 02:58:08,120 Speaker 7: so they're leaving here because we don't have enough trade schools, 3123 02:58:08,520 --> 02:58:10,679 Speaker 7: career technical schools. 3124 02:58:10,840 --> 02:58:15,080 Speaker 13: And these jobs paid, these skills paid. 3125 02:58:15,720 --> 02:58:16,840 Speaker 5: Above minimum wage. 3126 02:58:17,280 --> 02:58:21,040 Speaker 7: So yes, I'm definitely in support of trade school, career 3127 02:58:21,120 --> 02:58:25,160 Speaker 7: development training, career technical schools. And to answer your question 3128 02:58:25,280 --> 02:58:30,440 Speaker 7: on reparations, Maimie Kid was here in two thousand and two, 3129 02:58:32,280 --> 02:58:37,240 Speaker 7: eight months before she died, talking about reparations here starting 3130 02:58:37,280 --> 02:58:44,080 Speaker 7: in the state of Mississippi, and the reparations included supporting 3131 02:58:45,200 --> 02:58:52,400 Speaker 7: giving back to the black communities through education, receiving their 3132 02:58:52,560 --> 02:58:57,080 Speaker 7: land back or at least helping those that lost land 3133 02:58:57,200 --> 02:59:02,560 Speaker 7: get that land back, and money especially to the victims 3134 02:59:03,160 --> 02:59:06,640 Speaker 7: of slaves and those were lynched. That's what made me 3135 02:59:06,720 --> 02:59:09,800 Speaker 7: till was here in Mississippi doing in two thousand and two. 3136 02:59:10,680 --> 02:59:13,240 Speaker 7: So yes, I do support reparations. 3137 02:59:16,120 --> 02:59:18,720 Speaker 1: All right, turn Malik, you want to respond to this question. 3138 02:59:22,240 --> 02:59:25,560 Speaker 4: I don't want to mix into the senators. Uh I 3139 02:59:25,680 --> 02:59:27,440 Speaker 4: come back. I heard this point. He want to know 3140 02:59:27,800 --> 02:59:32,440 Speaker 4: whether I support that black person going into the United 3141 02:59:32,480 --> 02:59:36,520 Speaker 4: States military. So I want to at the end, I don't. 3142 02:59:36,520 --> 02:59:38,080 Speaker 4: I don't want to. I don't want to jump in. 3143 02:59:38,840 --> 02:59:41,320 Speaker 4: I don't want to jump in the middle of Miss 3144 02:59:41,440 --> 02:59:44,880 Speaker 4: Till's part. I got I see what's going with it, 3145 02:59:45,000 --> 02:59:46,840 Speaker 4: and I tell I'll say that for the. 3146 02:59:46,959 --> 02:59:49,680 Speaker 1: End, okay, because I think she wants to respond, go 3147 02:59:49,720 --> 02:59:50,720 Speaker 1: ahead for sure. 3148 02:59:51,280 --> 02:59:53,920 Speaker 7: And I also want to bring up before we left, 3149 02:59:54,000 --> 02:59:59,039 Speaker 7: we were talking about the warfare frar here in Mississippi. 3150 02:59:59,040 --> 03:00:02,280 Speaker 7: And let me be clear. You all know that the 3151 03:00:02,920 --> 03:00:07,880 Speaker 7: Department of Human Services is a public assistant program that 3152 03:00:08,320 --> 03:00:16,280 Speaker 7: is placed to support families and individuals well beings in communities. 3153 03:00:17,240 --> 03:00:22,640 Speaker 7: When the governor, the ex governor Nascy New, the pro 3154 03:00:22,879 --> 03:00:27,640 Speaker 7: football player John Davis, who went to grad school with me, 3155 03:00:29,040 --> 03:00:34,560 Speaker 7: created a network to steal millions of dollars from the 3156 03:00:34,680 --> 03:00:38,440 Speaker 7: Department of Human Services. And now one time have they 3157 03:00:38,560 --> 03:00:42,800 Speaker 7: been brought to court. Even the Attorney General Lenn Fitch, 3158 03:00:43,400 --> 03:00:47,520 Speaker 7: who was the accountant during this time when this money 3159 03:00:47,720 --> 03:00:51,520 Speaker 7: was being sold, the financial person. So this is what 3160 03:00:51,640 --> 03:00:56,280 Speaker 7: I'm saying to you. They went after the local black 3161 03:00:56,480 --> 03:00:59,920 Speaker 7: leaders here in the state of Mississippi city of jack 3162 03:01:01,120 --> 03:01:04,160 Speaker 7: target to them, talking about they took ten thousand dollars here, 3163 03:01:04,520 --> 03:01:07,760 Speaker 7: ten thousand dollars there, then they equate to fifty thousand dollars. 3164 03:01:08,080 --> 03:01:11,520 Speaker 7: But you got these people that sit in these positions 3165 03:01:11,600 --> 03:01:14,920 Speaker 7: of power that has taken money out of the mouth 3166 03:01:15,560 --> 03:01:20,720 Speaker 7: of individuals who need this support, and these moneys have 3167 03:01:20,879 --> 03:01:24,280 Speaker 7: been given by the government. So you tell me where's 3168 03:01:24,320 --> 03:01:26,720 Speaker 7: the outcry? And I'm gonna tell you why it's so important. 3169 03:01:27,120 --> 03:01:31,400 Speaker 7: I sat on the grand jury and wrote and was 3170 03:01:31,480 --> 03:01:34,200 Speaker 7: the secretary on the grand jury when I wrote in 3171 03:01:34,400 --> 03:01:38,280 Speaker 7: each charge for these people of this war fir fod 3172 03:01:38,600 --> 03:01:41,360 Speaker 7: So you tell me how easy it is for this 3173 03:01:41,600 --> 03:01:45,840 Speaker 7: state to tell me that they're coming for former mayor 3174 03:01:46,040 --> 03:01:51,880 Speaker 7: chugwey Lamorea Da Jodie Owns, Angelique Lee Aaron Banks. But 3175 03:01:52,040 --> 03:01:56,120 Speaker 7: you out had now one time brought charges that I 3176 03:01:56,360 --> 03:01:59,520 Speaker 7: wrote in during the grand jury that we true been 3177 03:02:01,080 --> 03:02:06,240 Speaker 7: So what counter farce is this? So this is what 3178 03:02:06,400 --> 03:02:09,960 Speaker 7: I'm telling you the hypocrisy that we are living here 3179 03:02:10,320 --> 03:02:13,560 Speaker 7: in Mississippi, and then no longer we'll go down like 3180 03:02:13,680 --> 03:02:17,240 Speaker 7: that because I'm willing and I will expose each and 3181 03:02:17,400 --> 03:02:21,000 Speaker 7: every corrush that comes my way. It is a reason 3182 03:02:21,080 --> 03:02:24,280 Speaker 7: whether the Lord allowed me to sit on the Grandeur, 3183 03:02:24,400 --> 03:02:28,000 Speaker 7: I was chosen during that time to bring at this hypocrisy. 3184 03:02:28,240 --> 03:02:30,240 Speaker 7: You want to come for them, but you don't want 3185 03:02:30,280 --> 03:02:33,880 Speaker 7: to go for this millions of dollars. And then you 3186 03:02:34,000 --> 03:02:37,320 Speaker 7: still have a pro football player, Bret Fare that still 3187 03:02:37,400 --> 03:02:41,160 Speaker 7: has not paid back, but they allow him. You all 3188 03:02:41,320 --> 03:02:45,440 Speaker 7: listen to me, they allow him to pay this money back. 3189 03:02:45,680 --> 03:02:48,360 Speaker 7: He still is short of not paying this money back. 3190 03:02:48,480 --> 03:02:52,320 Speaker 7: But Shad White, I will state auditor who when after 3191 03:02:52,440 --> 03:02:57,119 Speaker 7: these people are no longer going after the former governor, 3192 03:02:57,280 --> 03:03:00,400 Speaker 7: Nason k New, Brent fob John Davis her Son, They're 3193 03:03:00,480 --> 03:03:03,279 Speaker 7: not wronger going after them. But they're talking about bringing 3194 03:03:03,400 --> 03:03:06,199 Speaker 7: Chug Ray, Jodie owns As, the League and the banks, 3195 03:03:06,280 --> 03:03:09,440 Speaker 7: these others to trial. No shirt, no, ma'am, that will 3196 03:03:09,520 --> 03:03:11,440 Speaker 7: not happen under our watch here in the state of 3197 03:03:11,480 --> 03:03:15,760 Speaker 7: Mississippi unless you're gonna be fairy. Just don't talk about 3198 03:03:15,800 --> 03:03:18,199 Speaker 7: coming for one not going for the other when these 3199 03:03:18,240 --> 03:03:21,920 Speaker 7: over here has taken millions of dollars versus you talking 3200 03:03:21,959 --> 03:03:25,720 Speaker 7: about peanuts right here, and I'm talking about the justice, 3201 03:03:25,920 --> 03:03:31,560 Speaker 7: the fairness of period. And then now Shad White, the auditor, 3202 03:03:31,879 --> 03:03:35,360 Speaker 7: when we just found out that. Ever then he didn't 3203 03:03:35,400 --> 03:03:41,240 Speaker 7: realize that the former governor Brian phil Brown was a 3204 03:03:41,360 --> 03:03:44,560 Speaker 7: part of this wordfare a scoundal. So he laid back. 3205 03:03:44,840 --> 03:03:47,960 Speaker 7: Now he's going after the one hundred Black Men organization, 3206 03:03:48,240 --> 03:03:52,320 Speaker 7: He's going after the fraternities, the sororities. So you tell 3207 03:03:52,440 --> 03:03:55,520 Speaker 7: me what is the hypocrisy of what's going on in 3208 03:03:55,600 --> 03:03:58,120 Speaker 7: the state of Mississippi. So when you shine light on 3209 03:03:58,280 --> 03:04:02,000 Speaker 7: these issues, then we'll make changes. Changes is due. So 3210 03:04:02,879 --> 03:04:04,760 Speaker 7: and I'm not gonna want to talk about that. Let's 3211 03:04:04,800 --> 03:04:09,480 Speaker 7: talk about the voting the voting election system here in 3212 03:04:09,560 --> 03:04:14,400 Speaker 7: the state. Each month, in the state of Mississippi, on 3213 03:04:14,560 --> 03:04:18,200 Speaker 7: a Monday, the first Monday of each month, they purge 3214 03:04:18,280 --> 03:04:20,920 Speaker 7: voters from the voter rolls, active voters from the voter 3215 03:04:21,040 --> 03:04:25,360 Speaker 7: roll You tell me how in January twenty twenty five, 3216 03:04:25,440 --> 03:04:30,879 Speaker 7: in Harrison County you have over just secrete instant one 3217 03:04:31,000 --> 03:04:34,640 Speaker 7: hundred and fifty eight thousand people on the active voter 3218 03:04:34,800 --> 03:04:37,959 Speaker 7: roll and then here I talked with twenty twenty five, 3219 03:04:38,120 --> 03:04:41,480 Speaker 7: seven thousand people been purged. That doesn't make sense. So 3220 03:04:41,560 --> 03:04:44,400 Speaker 7: when I go and ask them, how do you have 3221 03:04:46,480 --> 03:04:49,120 Speaker 7: you start out with one hundred and fifty eight thousand people, 3222 03:04:49,800 --> 03:04:54,000 Speaker 7: and now I talk with twenty twenty five, not ten months, 3223 03:04:54,720 --> 03:04:58,160 Speaker 7: seven thousand people have been persed. It doesn't make sense 3224 03:04:58,200 --> 03:05:00,760 Speaker 7: for one county. So what I'm yet the people not 3225 03:05:01,000 --> 03:05:03,879 Speaker 7: just here in the Mississippi, but this is something going 3226 03:05:03,959 --> 03:05:06,560 Speaker 7: on throughout the states. I know right now my campaign 3227 03:05:06,720 --> 03:05:11,720 Speaker 7: manager and our research there right now is they're doing 3228 03:05:11,800 --> 03:05:15,720 Speaker 7: this now in twenty five states. They're going to these 3229 03:05:15,800 --> 03:05:19,480 Speaker 7: states there are apart your voters from the active voter rolls, 3230 03:05:19,480 --> 03:05:22,680 Speaker 7: and if you're not paying attention, I believe that this 3231 03:05:22,879 --> 03:05:27,400 Speaker 7: is how they're winning these these dese seats. So people, 3232 03:05:27,520 --> 03:05:31,240 Speaker 7: I'm telling you from the state of Mississippi, go make 3233 03:05:31,320 --> 03:05:33,720 Speaker 7: sure you're looking at your name, looking at the people 3234 03:05:33,800 --> 03:05:38,039 Speaker 7: that they are are extent well excluding or cutting from 3235 03:05:38,080 --> 03:05:40,200 Speaker 7: the voter rolls. To make sure that your name is 3236 03:05:40,280 --> 03:05:42,720 Speaker 7: not excluded from the voter when it's time to vote 3237 03:05:43,080 --> 03:05:45,840 Speaker 7: here in Mississippi. Like I said, if we look at 3238 03:05:45,879 --> 03:05:48,080 Speaker 7: the numbers and see what's happening in each county, and 3239 03:05:48,120 --> 03:05:51,840 Speaker 7: there's eighty two counties. Now I'm doing investigation till we 3240 03:05:52,000 --> 03:05:55,320 Speaker 7: are actually looking at from January twenty twenty five to 3241 03:05:55,480 --> 03:05:59,320 Speaker 7: November twenty twenty five, how many people within your county 3242 03:05:59,600 --> 03:06:03,040 Speaker 7: has been excluded out those active voter roles. Because this 3243 03:06:03,320 --> 03:06:06,320 Speaker 7: is serious and this is how they are winning these 3244 03:06:06,480 --> 03:06:10,200 Speaker 7: elections with these vogus numbers that are going on with 3245 03:06:10,360 --> 03:06:13,519 Speaker 7: these votes at these voting elections offices. 3246 03:06:14,920 --> 03:06:17,440 Speaker 1: Let me just jump in here until a fifth because 3247 03:06:17,440 --> 03:06:20,840 Speaker 1: you mentioned Antour Lamumba, who was the mayor of Jackson, 3248 03:06:20,879 --> 03:06:26,440 Speaker 1: Mississippian priv to you guys, come down, sister Shashana from Detroit. 3249 03:06:26,600 --> 03:06:30,560 Speaker 1: That's her nephew. She's the brother of his father involved 3250 03:06:30,600 --> 03:06:32,520 Speaker 1: in the Republic of New Africa. So those of you 3251 03:06:32,560 --> 03:06:37,240 Speaker 1: who could connected ducts sister, yes, sir, she was all 3252 03:06:37,320 --> 03:06:38,080 Speaker 1: right before you guys. 3253 03:06:38,440 --> 03:06:41,600 Speaker 7: I just want to mention that, yes, sir, and I 3254 03:06:41,760 --> 03:06:44,480 Speaker 7: just think that very unfair and that's something that should 3255 03:06:44,520 --> 03:06:45,080 Speaker 7: be looked into. 3256 03:06:46,440 --> 03:06:46,800 Speaker 4: All right. 3257 03:06:47,040 --> 03:06:49,240 Speaker 1: And and you say that Brett fob still hasn't paid 3258 03:06:49,240 --> 03:06:52,160 Speaker 1: that money. It's still see my National TV. And he 3259 03:06:52,240 --> 03:06:54,440 Speaker 1: owners to the state of Mississippi. Millions of dollars. 3260 03:06:54,600 --> 03:06:58,200 Speaker 7: Yes, no, sir, he has not paid all that money. 3261 03:06:58,440 --> 03:06:59,520 Speaker 7: And that's the problem. 3262 03:07:00,080 --> 03:07:01,000 Speaker 4: What's the problem. 3263 03:07:01,360 --> 03:07:04,119 Speaker 7: They're not talking about that, So they shouldn't be talking 3264 03:07:04,160 --> 03:07:08,240 Speaker 7: about Chuck Wade, Jody on nobody else because if they're 3265 03:07:08,320 --> 03:07:13,400 Speaker 7: not gonna go after the million dollars heist, they need 3266 03:07:13,480 --> 03:07:16,320 Speaker 7: to leave him alone. That's what I'm saying. If you're 3267 03:07:16,320 --> 03:07:19,680 Speaker 7: gonna be fair and just do your due diligence and 3268 03:07:19,840 --> 03:07:22,320 Speaker 7: do it right, do it right. 3269 03:07:23,080 --> 03:07:25,400 Speaker 1: All right, go ahead, counselor. 3270 03:07:26,560 --> 03:07:29,360 Speaker 4: All right. I know we're getting ready to close out again. 3271 03:07:29,480 --> 03:07:36,560 Speaker 4: If heal. The website is TILL the number four yous 3272 03:07:36,920 --> 03:07:43,320 Speaker 4: Senate twenty twenty six dot org, Am I right, come, 3273 03:07:43,879 --> 03:07:51,720 Speaker 4: dot com, dot com, dot the number four kill the 3274 03:07:51,920 --> 03:07:56,440 Speaker 4: number four US spent it twenty twenty six dot com. 3275 03:07:57,600 --> 03:08:01,160 Speaker 4: That's the website. And here who were listening around this 3276 03:08:01,320 --> 03:08:07,760 Speaker 4: country text two O two three six nine nine nine 3277 03:08:07,879 --> 03:08:10,280 Speaker 4: eight six. If you want to help and we need 3278 03:08:10,400 --> 03:08:13,440 Speaker 4: some money, Black Lawyers for Justices are going to give 3279 03:08:13,520 --> 03:08:17,360 Speaker 4: us thousand dollars this week to the TIL campaign, and 3280 03:08:17,400 --> 03:08:19,960 Speaker 4: I'm urging y'all to match me. If you like what 3281 03:08:20,120 --> 03:08:22,640 Speaker 4: you heard and you want this candidate did this the 3282 03:08:22,760 --> 03:08:25,200 Speaker 4: kind of candidate warning the US Senate, I don't care 3283 03:08:25,240 --> 03:08:28,560 Speaker 4: where you call it from text two oh two three 3284 03:08:28,760 --> 03:08:32,480 Speaker 4: six nine eight six. So we can get some most 3285 03:08:32,760 --> 03:08:36,880 Speaker 4: campaign signs and posters because this campaign is going to 3286 03:08:36,959 --> 03:08:39,360 Speaker 4: the tops. And so I do want to stay on 3287 03:08:39,440 --> 03:08:43,880 Speaker 4: that last note. Brother was asking me do I recommend that? 3288 03:08:44,080 --> 03:08:46,560 Speaker 4: I think he's saying, what do I recommend that a 3289 03:08:47,280 --> 03:08:51,600 Speaker 4: black person joined the US military? So I think brother's 3290 03:08:51,680 --> 03:08:55,200 Speaker 4: pressing me. I think I've already if I've given you 3291 03:08:55,360 --> 03:09:00,480 Speaker 4: my answer that that what the military is doing in 3292 03:09:00,640 --> 03:09:05,400 Speaker 4: the world right now and has done is not righteous, 3293 03:09:05,959 --> 03:09:08,600 Speaker 4: and it's against human rights, and it's a violation of 3294 03:09:08,720 --> 03:09:13,400 Speaker 4: other nations sovereignty, then it logically follows that I, personally, 3295 03:09:13,440 --> 03:09:16,279 Speaker 4: this is me personally talking that I'm a league Zulusha Bass, 3296 03:09:16,840 --> 03:09:21,720 Speaker 4: cannot give such recommendation for any of our people to 3297 03:09:21,920 --> 03:09:26,080 Speaker 4: join that force. That's what I want to say. I 3298 03:09:26,160 --> 03:09:29,680 Speaker 4: cannot give such recommendation to join that force. But I 3299 03:09:29,800 --> 03:09:33,800 Speaker 4: also want to say to every black military veteran that 3300 03:09:34,040 --> 03:09:38,000 Speaker 4: is on this line and to other brothers who still 3301 03:09:38,200 --> 03:09:42,000 Speaker 4: may go into the armed forces for other reasons. They 3302 03:09:42,080 --> 03:09:44,480 Speaker 4: may go in there for education, or that may go 3303 03:09:44,560 --> 03:09:47,800 Speaker 4: in there for military training or people that I do 3304 03:09:48,120 --> 03:09:52,760 Speaker 4: know that have already gone through the military veterans. I 3305 03:09:52,840 --> 03:09:54,960 Speaker 4: want to say that some of these men are extremely 3306 03:09:55,120 --> 03:09:58,560 Speaker 4: valuable and they've been extremely valuable part of our movement. 3307 03:09:58,840 --> 03:10:02,400 Speaker 4: I'm on here with Momo Ajabu all the time. He's 3308 03:10:02,440 --> 03:10:06,120 Speaker 4: a Vietnam veteran, and what the lessons that he learned 3309 03:10:06,160 --> 03:10:09,120 Speaker 4: in Vietnam Now that he is the key member of 3310 03:10:09,200 --> 03:10:13,800 Speaker 4: the Black Panther movement that has benefited us immentally. If 3311 03:10:13,879 --> 03:10:15,600 Speaker 4: you go to the hue P, if you go to 3312 03:10:15,760 --> 03:10:19,720 Speaker 4: any other grassroots organization, the hue P Newton Gun Club 3313 03:10:19,840 --> 03:10:22,760 Speaker 4: and others in the Black Self Defense movement, there's a 3314 03:10:22,840 --> 03:10:28,120 Speaker 4: substantial amount of black military veterans, graduates of Marines and 3315 03:10:28,160 --> 03:10:31,000 Speaker 4: the Army that are that are bringing some good, solid 3316 03:10:31,200 --> 03:10:34,840 Speaker 4: training and so so so so those that have gone 3317 03:10:34,879 --> 03:10:38,360 Speaker 4: and gotten some education and gotten some military training and 3318 03:10:38,520 --> 03:10:41,080 Speaker 4: can bring it back to the Black community and and 3319 03:10:41,200 --> 03:10:44,400 Speaker 4: have not been brainwashed, then I'm than those are my brothers. 3320 03:10:45,040 --> 03:10:49,280 Speaker 4: I respected to Tuskegee Airmen and the Black Panther Tank 3321 03:10:49,360 --> 03:10:53,000 Speaker 4: Corps that fought and and I'm disrespect no black veteran, 3322 03:10:53,520 --> 03:10:57,080 Speaker 4: and I still say that that what this military doing 3323 03:10:57,240 --> 03:11:01,200 Speaker 4: right now under Donald Trump is is and that's why 3324 03:11:01,240 --> 03:11:03,120 Speaker 4: I'm on here with a candidate that I know is 3325 03:11:03,160 --> 03:11:06,040 Speaker 4: gonna stand up for human rights when they get in 3326 03:11:06,120 --> 03:11:10,560 Speaker 4: the office. Okay, appreciate your time. Appreciate your time. 3327 03:11:11,560 --> 03:11:14,600 Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Thank you, Attorney Maleik, and thank 3328 03:11:14,640 --> 03:11:16,760 Speaker 1: you Priscilla, and good luck on your race. And keep 3329 03:11:16,840 --> 03:11:18,120 Speaker 1: us in the loop though, let us know how it's 3330 03:11:18,160 --> 03:11:18,760 Speaker 1: working out for you. 3331 03:11:20,040 --> 03:11:20,360 Speaker 3: All right. 3332 03:11:20,440 --> 03:11:21,120 Speaker 6: Family, that's it. 3333 03:11:21,200 --> 03:11:24,800 Speaker 1: For the day. Class is dismissed. Stay strong, stay positive, 3334 03:11:24,840 --> 03:11:27,119 Speaker 1: please stay healthy. We'll see you tomorrow morning, six o'clock 3335 03:11:27,200 --> 03:11:30,440 Speaker 1: right here in Baltimore on ten ten WLB and also 3336 03:11:30,520 --> 03:11:33,480 Speaker 1: in the DMV on fourteen fifty WOL.