1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: Oh we are back. 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 2: It is another edition, a Colt's Corner with myself Kevin Bowen, 3 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: a March Madness edition. We're recording this Thursday, right before 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: Round one. I would say the Madness for the Colts 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: Eddie Garrison more in quantity than quality. I cannot recall 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 2: what do we now about two weeks week and half 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 2: in a free agency. Cannot recall the last time they 8 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: have had this many auditions and subtractions. Now, if you 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: were going to define the quality of the additions versus 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: the subtractions, I would say the subtractions are very notable players. 11 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: Four in fact, of the top ten guys that have 12 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 2: started games in the Chris ballot ear are now gone. 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: That doesn't include Nit Cross. And the additions, I would 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: say are mostly depth. You know we can get into 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: they potentially, I think got a starter yesterday afternoon, so 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: we can hit on that today. But yeah, the Madness 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: is more of a subdued Round one. I hope we 18 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,959 Speaker 2: get a little bit more drama in the old bracket 19 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: than we have gotten with the cults so far. 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 3: Kevin. Usually I don't comment on your physical appearance, but 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: you look a bit disheveled today. Have you been studying 22 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 3: the bracket in all these matchups to muster up the 23 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 3: perfect bracket for once. 24 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: Man, Good to see you too as well. At a geez, boys, 25 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: that's quite to start here. Good, good to see we're 26 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 2: off on a you know, flying colors here. 27 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, sure. 28 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: I don't know up up at night, you know. Maybe 29 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: blame the kids, maybe blame the studying of the bracket. 30 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: I did enjoy watching io put on the show last night. 31 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, who do you got winning it? Who's in your 32 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 3: fronto for. 33 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: Saint John's, Houston, Arizona and Iowa State? 34 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 3: Oh the Johnnies Johnny's. 35 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got Akron in the Sweet sixteen, got mayb 36 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: a high on the Sweet sixteen, I got right State 37 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 2: winning a game, Troy winning a game. So I always 38 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 2: make it a rule I've got to get three twelves 39 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: or higher. 40 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:52,279 Speaker 3: Really, yeah, it's just a interesting. 41 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: Self rule of mine. 42 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: Here by the way, to h Hilton retired, Did I 43 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: miss something I thought? 44 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: Like honestly one of the same thing. 45 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, one of his kids got his phone and pressed 46 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: send on like a drafted tweet from three years ago. 47 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: Your favorite ty memory? 48 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: Maybe Eugene yea hacked in there? Oh, man, I don't know, 49 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 3: there's too many to count. 50 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: Clown mask. 51 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, any of. 52 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 2: The Houston Games Chiefs playoff game. 53 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good poll too. 54 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. We talked about this on our morning show. 55 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: Leira Overton text to me and said, how about when 56 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: he remember we did the Rock the Baby Fadle celebration 57 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 2: the night after I believe Eugene had been born, or 58 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: maybe it was one of the. 59 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: Other I thought it was his daughter. 60 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: Was his daughter? 61 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 2: Oh yes, now that now that you say that, I 62 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: do think it was his daughter. Jacksonville I think was 63 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: the opponent there. I will always remember his second year 64 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: in the league. The Colts had some really notable wins 65 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: that year. They beat San Francisco at San Francisco. I 66 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: believe it was the first Trent Richardson game. They beat 67 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 2: Seattle here and that was like peak legion of boom 68 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: and Ty just shredded Richard, Sherman and company. And I 69 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: think that was kind of his coming out party. So 70 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: I assumed he was retired, So apologies on that. Obviously 71 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: we'll get in a ton of free agency stuff, but. 72 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: Shout out to the ghost. 73 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 3: Let's get into let's get into that free agency chat 74 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,119 Speaker 3: that you are wanting to hit on today. Kevin, we're 75 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: about two weeks in. What are your thoughts so far 76 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: and what the Colts have done or have not done? 77 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 2: Yeah? I again, they have retooled so much of their depth. 78 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: You know, they've signed I think it's ten defensive players 79 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: as we sit here right now, Eddie. And if I 80 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: set the over under of one and a half as 81 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: a starter, you'd probably take the under. Yeah, you know, 82 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: is it jan Ye Thomas? Is it a Keem Davis Gaither? 83 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: I I you know, again, their biggest need is yet 84 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: to be addressed, and that was to me, a starting 85 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: defensive end. So again, it's been much more of a 86 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: retooling of the of the depth. I've heard the Rick 87 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: Rick ventory analogy of like, you know, is this just 88 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: changing your oil on your car? You know, is that 89 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: what you're doing? Or do you feel like you're really 90 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: getting better with this? And you know where I'm a 91 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: little confused, is you have all this cap space? Was 92 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: it just Trey Hendrickson or bust? 93 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: That's what it looks like with the way they framed 94 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 3: the Pearson Jones contracts so that they were under the 95 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 3: impression that they were going to land Hendrickson. 96 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: Which you know, now I'm thinking of myself, well, why 97 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: not re sign Nick Cross if he had on this 98 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: cap space. Yeah, you know, you could have done maybe 99 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: some of these other things. 100 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: In fifteen, isn't you know, earth shattering right right? 101 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: So and again maybe Nick Cross wanted to go back 102 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 2: to the to the DC area. But you know, those 103 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: are the things that have kind of crossed my mind. 104 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: But you know, again, nothing really of note, certainly a 105 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: defensive end, I guess. And maybe let's just start with 106 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: the King Davis Gaither while we're there Atty, just because 107 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: it's the most recent move. We can start maybe with 108 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: him in Westbrook, a keenane kind of work our way 109 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: back from there. 110 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: But to me, is this Jermaine Pratt? 111 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: Is this a starter? You know again, I am an 112 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 2: advocate for finding a linebacker with luenn Or Rumo experience. 113 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: I get it's a little travel a pally with Louisna 114 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: Rumo at times of like, hey, do you know me? 115 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 2: I'm the commission of the league. And if you don't 116 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: know me, you're not gonna play here. And yeah, I 117 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 2: think it's a it's a little dangerous game to play. 118 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: It can backfire Xaving Howard probably be in the biggest 119 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 2: example of it. But I also think at linebacker it's 120 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: a key prerequisite, especially when you're gonna play a little 121 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: bit more of an exotic defense. And I thought Ziaron 122 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: Franklin is really honest last week when he hopped on 123 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 2: the Jim Rome Show kind of explaining the differences from 124 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 2: Gus Bradley's scheme to lose and basically just the more again, 125 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: you know, diverse scheme, I guess. And you know, Zaia 126 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 2: strikes me as a really cerebral player, so to hear 127 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 2: him say that really stood out to me. 128 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: So again, not a ton of starting experience, you know. 129 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 2: Really wasn't a starter with lou That was mostly Logan 130 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: Wilson and Jermaine Pratt, ironically enough. But you know, I 131 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: kind of look at linebacker right now, Eddie, and I'm like, 132 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: all right, Davis Kather, a third year of Jalen Carlis 133 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: and a second or third round pick at the position. 134 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 2: Those three guys for two spots. Okay, you know, does. 135 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 3: That make it? 136 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: You know, you don't sound, you don't look very enthusiastic. 137 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 3: Doesn't move the needle much for me. 138 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: Okay, that that is fine, but that's kind of what 139 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: I think they're doing. I get that doesn't move the needle, 140 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 2: but that's my general impression of it here. 141 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 3: So the reason why he doesn't is because I was 142 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 3: a big jail in Carli's believer when he got drafted. 143 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 3: But he just hasn't been able to stay healthy and 144 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: stay on the field. And then when he was healthy 145 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 3: last year, he wasn't a part of the starting group. Yeah, 146 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 3: in camp or OTAs or anything. 147 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, very fair. 148 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 2: If you want to stretch it, I guess I'll send 149 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: a gk Is back. But yeah, right now, linebacker, I 150 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: think is going to be that one where we're kind 151 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: of like, okay, do you have enough here? 152 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 153 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: The other signing yesterday Westbrook A Kine. You know, obviously 154 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: the IU flavors what a lot of people are drawn towards. 155 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: By the way, fun fact about it, keem Da David 156 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: Gaither born three hundred and sixty eight days before me. 157 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: Wow, boy, pencil that into your program to start the year. 158 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: I know you think Matt Taylor will lead off with that. 159 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: If he's in the starting lineup. 160 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 3: Week one, he should That's what he should do. 161 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: Okay. 162 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 2: A fun frat fact for Westbroga Keene. He shared yesterday 163 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: that he married a Brownsburg girl, which, for those unfamiliar 164 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: with the geography of Indy, Brownsburg is the closest city 165 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: to the Colts Complex there on the west Side. And 166 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,119 Speaker 2: he took his father in law and his two brothers 167 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: in law to the National title game. 168 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: Oh good for him? 169 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: How about that? 170 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? Not as cool as mine, but yeah cool. 171 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: I can say. Don't think the Lovers family's benefiting from 172 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: Kevin Bowen, but married into the family like that. 173 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: Maybe apologies on that. I mean you, they get free 174 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: pub all the time from you, so I think they 175 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 3: would like that. 176 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: Enjoy that, Mike, Matt and Ross for having to watch 177 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: the National Title on your couch. You know, Westbroog Keene 178 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: to meet Eddie if like you and I would have 179 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: talked a week ago. Hey, describe Nick Westburger Keene. What 180 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: is he like as a receiver? 181 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: Alec Pierce Light. 182 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: No, I would said poor Man's Michael Pittman Jr. 183 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: Oh interesting. 184 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: You know, his stature is kind of like that, and 185 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: I think he kind of played. I don't think he's 186 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: eye popping with you know, a ton of maybe athletic 187 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: traits from a speed element or anything like that, but 188 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: just you know, kind of a solid back into the 189 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: wide out or back into the depth chart wide out. 190 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: So you know, when we've discussed receiver since the Pittman trade, 191 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: I think I've said to you I don't expect anything major. 192 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: This would qualify as that. So now let's play out 193 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 2: the wide receiver depth chart pierce downs. Obviously Tyler Warren 194 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: will have a heavy pass catching presence, But then can 195 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: that other wide out spot be Westbrook, Akine, Ashton Doolan, 196 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 2: Laquon Treadwell. And let's say the cold straft to white 197 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: out in round four? 198 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: Is that enough? 199 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: So that's kind of how I'm looking out white out 200 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: right now. We'll see obviously if they make any other moves, 201 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 2: but those are the two sign needs from yesterday. Special teams, 202 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 2: by the way, presence for both these guys. I think 203 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: the King Davis Gaither was actually a special team's captain 204 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: in Cincy. 205 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: Uh. And if you were wondering about the birthday of 206 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 3: Nick questper Kakinane relation to me now and fifty two days, 207 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 3: six months and three days in a year, so eighteen 208 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 3: months and three days, you're welcome, boy. 209 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 2: Matt Taylor you've got enough amoo last year. 210 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 3: For a I know, while we're just talking about the 211 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 3: new signings for the Colts, we will eventually get back 212 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 3: to the players that they did bring back. But Cam 213 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 3: Taylor Britt another addition to the Colts defense. He was 214 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: a player that was I can't remember how high he 215 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 3: was taken, but the second round. Yeah, I think you're 216 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 3: correct there. And he was a guy that had a 217 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: lot of those traits that Louis and Rimo likes. He's 218 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 3: very long, athletic, he likes to disrupt the passes, get 219 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: his hands on footballs. It just did not work out 220 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: for him in Cincinnati, just because he has not been 221 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 3: great in coverage and when he has been good, it's. 222 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 2: Just not being consistent volatile player. Yeah, I think it's 223 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: the best way to put it. There were some high highs, 224 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 2: but Luanna Ruma also benched this guy twice. So and 225 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: that was before Al Golden came in and and you know, 226 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 2: his career, you know, pretty much ended there in Cincinnati. 227 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 2: Mostly an outside corner. He is coming off a list 228 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: Frank injury, we probably should note that, and his injury 229 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: was I believe two months after Hunter Wohlers, So trying 230 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: to project him out. You know, you you do have 231 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: a little bit of a question. But you know, again, 232 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: when it was announced that Mooney Ward is going to 233 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: be back, do you act like Mooney's on the team 234 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 2: or not? Do you have the resources to act like 235 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: he's on the team or not. I'm totally fine with 236 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: a bunch of bodies at corner, and they're bringing back 237 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: a lot of guys and me, they're bringing back Jonathan 238 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 2: Edwards and Jalen Jones and Cameron and Mitchell and you know, 239 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 2: trying to think of those other kind of back into 240 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: the roster corners that I honestly played a decent amount here, 241 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 2: So I mean, he certainly struggled last season. You know, 242 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: again there is some injury history as well. I should 243 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: mention Kai Blackman. I don't think you know, I've gotten 244 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: this question a couple of times here this offseason, Like, 245 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if these moves are screaming Kenny Moore 246 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 2: to safety if people have asked me that. First off, 247 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: you know, on the depth chart, Kenny would be moving 248 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: to strong safety. Can his body hold up there? You know, 249 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 2: he definitely doesn't have the stature of a normal strong 250 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: safety right now. Having said that, Kenny always plays bigger 251 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: than his height and weight is certainly listed, but I 252 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: get that, you know, some people later in their careers whatever. 253 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: We don't talk about a lot in the NFL, but 254 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: some corners do move to safety. 255 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: Again, I don't. 256 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: Think Kenny is in that realm there, but I know 257 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: people have asked me about it, so yeah, to me, 258 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: I kind of look at Taylor britt as whatever competing 259 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: for that third, fourth, fifth cornerback spot. Obviously got Justin 260 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: Walley coming off the ACL there, so you know, he 261 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 2: definitely was pretty honest about you know, he kind of 262 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: couldn't get out of his head last season. He feels 263 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 2: like it's more mental. Now, granted physical, you did have 264 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: Liz Frank injury, but you know when he was out there, 265 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 2: felt like it was you're kind of a mental thing. 266 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: So whatever new start form or second round pick. 267 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: Finally interesting that they would go down this route a 268 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 3: little bit too, k because he got a he got 269 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 3: in trouble with the law in January. Do you remember this. 270 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, when I say volatile, I mean on and off 271 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 2: the field, right. 272 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, because he h he had he pleaded guilty to 273 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 3: reckless driving and operating a vehicle without a license. He 274 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 3: was sentenced to five days in jail and he already 275 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 3: served it earlier this year. 276 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's a lot here. 277 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 2: You know, his zoom call, he definite, he's got some personality, 278 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: but he's a big lou fan, and we'll see if 279 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: he can resurrect a career here in some capacity. And again, 280 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: depth of corner's been tested seemingly every year, so I 281 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: did think that's a position where the bore of the marrier. 282 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 3: Let's get into the safeties. That the Cults signed jan 283 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 3: Yay Thomas from Dallas on a one year deal, and 284 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 3: Jonathan Owens, the husband of Simone Biles, from the Chicago Bears, 285 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 3: also to a one year deal. If I had to guess, Kevin, 286 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 3: I would say that the Thomas addition is probably the 287 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 3: more likely of the two to have a chance at 288 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: that starting safety spot that's available. 289 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right about that. 290 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 2: You'll certainly as frame stands out, honestly, it's kind of 291 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 2: a linebacker size in a Chris ballor defense six three, 292 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: two seventeen. But you know, some starts in Dallas last year. 293 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: Now, he had migrain issues. 294 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: Seemingly all these guys have dealt with something of note 295 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 2: here that ended his season. Now he feels like that 296 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: is behind him. But yeah, this to me kind of screams, 297 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: is he your Nick Cross starter? Jonathan Owen's probably a 298 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: little bit more of a special team's history. Granted he 299 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: definitely has defense and starting background there, so yeah. 300 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: Simone Biles the most. 301 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: Famous person ever to walk in the Colts practice facility. 302 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: Ooh, famous and paid manny Oh yeah yeah globally yes. 303 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: Right, globally is the key keyword, right. 304 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, one of the most decorated Olympians in the 305 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: history of United States history. 306 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: Well yeah, I would say world history, but yes, definitely 307 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: US history, i'd assume of any country. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, 308 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: good for the good for the Matty Bowen watching Colts football. 309 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 3: And the last player that the Colts have added. 310 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: They do more safety, yes, okay, yeah, because we've kind 311 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: of projected linebacker now wide out, you know, as you 312 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: end of the draft, obviously defensive end linebacker white out 313 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: is safety with that group. 314 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would agree, I think it is. Yeah. 315 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: Uh. 316 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: The last player the Colts have signed since last week's podcast, 317 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 3: Jerry Tillery, another defensive lineman for that group up front, 318 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 3: Notre Namer right, yep. 319 00:14:55,720 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, the former first round pick up Shane Steichen back 320 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: with with with the Chargers. Really yeah, you know, rotational 321 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: depth a little bit on the other side. Honestly, if 322 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 2: I could be very serious for a moment here, Eddie, 323 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: one area where I do think the Colts have improved 324 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: is their defensive tackle depth. Now, having said that, that 325 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: would be like, you know whatever, you at University of 326 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: Indianapolis going on a date and I'm your roommate, and 327 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: you come home and the first thing you say to 328 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: me is, yeah, man, she has a really nice car. 329 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it's a good thing, right, But like, 330 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: is that really the most important thing? 331 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 3: You know? 332 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: So that's kind of how I feel about where the 333 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: Colts have improved right now. But I do think with 334 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 2: Colby Wooden and what you have here with Tillery. You know, Tommy, 335 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: I thought really at a time out of Borrow, that is, 336 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: I thought, really had a nice year last season. Mm hmm. 337 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: You know, we'll see if Derek Nodty makes it. I mean, frankly, 338 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: a lot of this is like are these guys gonna 339 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: make the team. Some of these guys, they really have 340 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: a ton of defensive lineman. Like, remember they drafted Tim 341 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: Smith from Alabama. I'm like, where does he fit into 342 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: all this? Because I assume at some point you got 343 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: to go get a defensive end period and I know 344 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 2: I'm talking about a lot of interior guys, but you know, 345 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: where's Michael Clemens, you know, kind of fit into all 346 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: of this. So again, they have added a ton of 347 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: bodies to that defensive line room. So you know, Tillery 348 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: at this point, again, that's probably kind of how I 349 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: view him as just more of a a rotational guy. 350 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: And yeah, quite the Saint Patrick's day with a couple 351 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: Notre damers, right, very durable, Jerry Tiller. 352 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 3: Is, Yeah, that is that's a good point to bring 353 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 3: up too. Yeah, four signings for the defensive line, Michael Clemens, 354 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 3: Colby wood and Jerry Tillery, uh and Derek Noddy of 355 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 3: course Colby Wooden via Trey. But yeah, four new additions 356 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 3: to that room to back up Buckner and Stewart a lot, 357 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 3: a lot, all right, Now, let's get into the players 358 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 3: that the Colts have re signed since our podcast last week. 359 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 3: With the tight ends. Moiley Cox and Andrew Ogletree are 360 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 3: both back. 361 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, they are and so your tight end up chart 362 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: will be the same, I assume. And you know, Moe 363 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 2: continues to be I think a really good blocker. I 364 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: was curious it would be either or ogle Tree is 365 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 2: probably one of your better special teams players, and so 366 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 2: he will be back as well. And then shall we 367 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 2: mentioned Carson taut This is where I talked to Notre 368 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: Dame basketball. Is this my heaven? Yes, I guess Colts 369 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: signed Notre Dame basketball player. I mean, I say no more. 370 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if the Colts have ever signed a player. 371 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: I've covered the team since what twenty ten, I don't 372 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: know if they have ever signed a player that I 373 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: said the phrase to myself when they signed said player. 374 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 2: I've custed that human so many times in my life. 375 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: Why I probably shouldn't start there right when I probably 376 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: should not start there? No, what's with all the swearing 377 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: at him? 378 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: Huh? Have you ever seen him throws? No, Eddie, lookup 379 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 2: his stats, Look up his free throw percentage in college basketball. 380 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: Now there's a connection here. 381 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: First off, Carson Toal has never played football. Connection here 382 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 2: Matt Turpeting, Colts director college scouting, high school teammates, good 383 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: friends with Michael Shrewsbury Notre Dame basketball coach. I think 384 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 2: you got a little bit of that that plays into it. 385 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: And you know, this is what NFL teams do now, 386 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: they take the basketball tight end. I bet of the 387 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: thirty two teams in the NFL, I bet probably half 388 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: of them have a basketball related tight end on their roster. Obviously, 389 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: the Colts found success, not just mo Aley Cox, but 390 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 2: you know, remember Eric Swape I do. And you know, again, 391 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: not everybody's gonna be Swape or Ally Cox. You're gonna 392 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: get your daniel A Doongo's. I remember they had a 393 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 2: DeMarco Cox from Georgia Tech that didn't work. 394 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 3: Out at all. Daniel o'dono You remember him. 395 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: No, oh you don't, the rugby player from South Africa. 396 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 3: No really, no, gosh, yeah. 397 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: You gotta look that up. He was like, I mean, 398 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: it was kind of a wild story there. I remember 399 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: running down on special teams against the Bank at some point. 400 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, Tout has legitimately never played football. Crazy rebounder, 401 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 2: not like big jumpy athlete, tenacious rebounder, one of those 402 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 2: just wild work ethic health eating dudes. Don't think he 403 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 2: was eating too many meals at you know, Eddie Street 404 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: commons at the linebacker over at whatever. Five guys there? So, 405 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 2: have you found his free throw percentag? Jenny, No, please 406 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: please find it because i'mbarrassed. I'm gonna guess it's thirty 407 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 2: five percent. 408 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 3: You you overshot. 409 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: It's not even thirty five. 410 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 3: Not for this season. No, what was it in the twenties? No? 411 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 3: Now you're right, and you're selling him thirty two. 412 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 2: Dude, I custed him so many times. 413 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 3: Eighteen of fifty six. 414 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: He tried to do the bank, like starting the probably 415 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 2: in January, probably apt to January. I'll say he just 416 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 2: tried to bank everyone in his career. 417 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 3: Is a three point shooters percentage or forty point nine? 418 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 2: He had to hit a half court shot. There's that's 419 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 2: the only way that he's ever hit a three point 420 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: of there. 421 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm saying his free thrower percentage is the 422 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 3: percentage of a good three point shooter. 423 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: Oh, got it? 424 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: Got it? Gout? I think you're saying it three point percent? No, 425 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: yeah again, I'm you know you got a ninety man roster. 426 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna fret too much. 427 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: Who cares? 428 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 2: Carson taut Welcome. You'd be a practice squad project guy 429 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: for a year. See what you got? 430 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 3: Is this true? He had a nineteen rebound game to 431 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 3: start the year. 432 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: I mean he's a man. 433 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 2: Child on the glass. Yeah, I mean it's He's one 434 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 2: of the better rebounders in college basketball history. Played at 435 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 2: Northern Arizona prior to Notre Dame. So I feel like 436 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 2: that covers everything. Lacwon Treadwell back Danny Pittard of the Ravens. 437 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: The Colts could use some O line depth. By the way, 438 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 2: as we sit here in March nineteenth, they could definitely 439 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 2: use some O line depth. Am I missing any others? God, 440 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 2: they've signed so many dudes, I'm sure I am. 441 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I mean, we've got them. 442 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 2: All before we get to Twitter questions, Eddie, just to 443 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 2: run down the whole list, additions, actions, Who should we 444 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 2: start with ads or minuses? Let's start with ads Colby 445 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 2: Wooden arden Key, Michael Clemens, Derek Noddy. The D line 446 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: moves there are a couple more so, Jonathan Owens and 447 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: Janie Davis, a safety back to the D line for 448 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 2: Jerry Tillery, Cam Taylor britt the corner of Louis Aruma history, 449 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 2: potentially starting linebacker and Nikeem Davis Gaither and then Nick 450 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 2: what Westbrook A Kine. I guess that's the only offensive edition, right. 451 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: Let's you want to call Carson taut one. 452 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 3: I mean you can because they're calling them a tight end, right, So. 453 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 2: Those are your offensive guys, the minuses, the guys that 454 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: are gone, Zira Franklin, Michael Pittman, Junior Neville, Gallimore, Quitty Pay, 455 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: Braden Smith, Nick Cross, Rodney Thomas the Second, Samson, Epicom 456 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: Shagun and Loubie Danny Pinter. I want to say, like 457 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 2: Taekwon Lewis and Jermaine Pratt, maybe are your only really 458 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 2: notable free agents still out there in house free agents 459 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 2: that is? And your retentions if you will, Alec Pierce, Blake, Groupie, 460 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, Ogle Tree, Laquon Treadwill Mo, Alie Cox, Cameron Mitchell. 461 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: I guess you law, Oh yeah, I did say Shaguna 462 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 2: Lubim so again quantity Eddie. I can't recall anything like this, 463 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 2: ads minuses any of it. It's just have you gotten better? 464 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 3: Are they a better team than they were at the 465 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 3: end of January? No? 466 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: I mean there's no way you consid there and say 467 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:28,479 Speaker 2: that because again, like you know young guys you're banking 468 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: on to take, Like if we maybe we should play 469 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 2: this game next week, Like of the notable guys you've lost, 470 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 2: how are you replacing them? Mm hmm. 471 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: Again as a let's say that for for next week. 472 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: But I think when you do that exercise, it's not 473 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: met with a lot of definite gotten better. 474 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,479 Speaker 3: Four quarter questions to get too. Let's start with Andrew 475 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 3: regarding Alec Pearce. He's had three concussions, the last one 476 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 3: caused him to miss multiple games. If Andrew remembers correctly, 477 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 3: just wanted to know if you thought there were any level, 478 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 3: if you had any concern over that from the organization 479 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 3: or your personal thoughts on it. Andrew hasn't heard anyone 480 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 3: mention it, but it was something that was in the 481 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 3: back of his mind during the lead up to free agency. 482 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good question. 483 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: I don't like by no means, why trying to diminish concussions. Frankly, 484 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 2: I feel like an idiot just even saying a statement 485 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 2: like that. But I mean, Eddie, he hasn't missed a 486 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: lot of time with any of them. I want to 487 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 2: say they're all one week absences. 488 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 3: Which is becoming the norm across the league. 489 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 2: Right, But you know, some of like Ryan Kelly had. 490 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 3: Like a month long absence, that's true on one of them. 491 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 2: You know what he war like, I'm just kidding out, 492 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 2: like he hasn't had the severe ones. M now he's 493 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: had nothing of note from a limb, you know, ligament, standpoint, 494 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 2: soft tissue, soft tissue, thank you. Yeah, he's had really 495 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 2: none of that now. I Its kind of it makes 496 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 2: me he hasn't gotten hurt more considering how many downfield 497 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 2: falling to the ground moments there are with those plays. 498 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: I am curious though, if he is going to catch 499 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 2: a few more underneath balls, inevitably you're gonna get hit more. 500 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 2: So you know, maybe I don't want to totally like 501 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: discredit Andrew here, but I don't. I don't know again, 502 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 2: part of me is gonna feel like an idiot of 503 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, he has multiple concussions and it's like, well, 504 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 2: it's kind of obvious here he had what three in 505 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 2: us for four years or four inness for four years. 506 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: But I just don't think. I mean, judging injury history 507 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 2: is probably one of the more difficult things to do 508 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 2: from cap standpoint but I think it's fine how the 509 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: Colds handled it, I guess, is what I'm saying. 510 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also I think I don't recall of the 511 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 3: uh was it? Andrew said three concussions that he's had 512 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 3: in his career. I feel like all of them have 513 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 3: been on those like fifty to fifty jump balls. When 514 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 3: he's downfield and he's coming back and hitting his head 515 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 3: on the turf. It's not like he's getting walloped over 516 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 3: the middle of the field and seventy's knocking him out right. Twitter. 517 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 3: Question two is from Isaac States. I apologize if this 518 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 3: question is an exasperated tone. I fel like we've been 519 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 3: stuck in purgatory for six years now being told we're 520 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 3: so close, but we're not any better now than we 521 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 3: were then. Allowing Chris Ballad and Shane Steiken to come 522 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 3: back after last season should have been treated as an 523 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 3: all chips in type of situation. This year, like I said, 524 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 3: I feel our team is worse at a number of 525 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 3: key positions now that the first wave a free agency 526 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 3: is over and still having limited draft capital. I failed 527 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 3: to see how the Colts got any better than last season. 528 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 3: If I knew this would happened. I would have pounded 529 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 3: the table harder for a hard rebuild, because it feels 530 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 3: all we did was delay the inevitable rebuild by a 531 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 3: full year. 532 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Isaac, this general tone, Eddie. 533 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: I feel like I've heard from you a decent amount 534 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: of fans here, and you know, honestly, when the when 535 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 2: the Jalen Waddle trade went down earlier this week, him 536 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 2: going to Denver. 537 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 3: For a first, a third, and a fourth and Denver 538 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 3: also sent a fourth to Miami. 539 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot the trade competition. Was it really a first? 540 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 3: Yeah? Gosh, it's the exact same trade Miami made for Tyreek. Really, 541 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 3: I think. 542 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 2: When that went down, it was just kind of a 543 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 2: reminder to me, Eddy of like the Colts have been 544 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 2: in such this half measured rebuild retool, Like what a what's. 545 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: Going on here? 546 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: Are you? Max Bowen? Are you gonna jump in the 547 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 2: pool or not? Like, don't just stand on the ledge 548 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 2: for twenty five minutes? 549 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 3: You know? 550 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 2: Like That's how I kind of feel about it. Of Okay, 551 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 2: let's look at it from Denver side of it. Denver 552 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 2: side is another reminder Eddy of what you can do 553 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: with a rookie contract quarterback yep, when you're not paying 554 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: that position, and New England is an example of it 555 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 2: right now. Houston is an example of that right now. 556 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 2: When you are not doing that, you can then build 557 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: big time or try to build big time. Okay, look 558 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 2: at New England's defense, look at Houston's defense, look at 559 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: Denvers defense. 560 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,239 Speaker 3: You can make the case the Colts tried to do it, 561 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 3: but with their own. 562 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 2: Well, and the Colts just failed frankly with obviously Richardson 563 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: and then you know, trying to build that that defense 564 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 2: at the same time. There Now look at it from 565 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 2: Miami side of it, new GM, new head coach. What 566 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: are they doing. They're stripping that thing down like a 567 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 2: pole in Magic City. Excuse me, not sure if that landed, 568 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: but Magic City I very nice establishment. 569 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 3: Why is Magic City? On the top of your mind? 570 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 2: Didn't they just have like the the. 571 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 3: Hawks were supposed to have one, but the association said 572 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 3: you can't do that. 573 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 2: Blame with Adam Silver. Uh why that's that's all my mind. 574 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 2: But like Miami saying, all these contracts, see you all 575 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 2: these draft picks here. I think I got seven in 576 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: the top hundred if I'm not mistaken. 577 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: Coming up in this year's draft. 578 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: So you know, it's like the Colts of not really. 579 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: Are they rebuilding? 580 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 2: Are they retooling? 581 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: What are they doing? 582 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 3: You know, I think that's a great way. What are 583 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 3: they doing? 584 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 2: They're like stuck in this awkward purgatory really with it. 585 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: And to Isaac's point, it's. 586 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 3: Like middle school. 587 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 2: Kevin had a dance very yes, thank you, very good there. 588 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 3: Hands in the pockets. You're like, yeah, just kind of 589 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 3: bop in. 590 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: Your head, sweaty hands in the in the pockets, Like do. 591 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 3: I do I go up? Do I go up to 592 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 3: uh Hannah over there and say, hey, you want to 593 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 3: go dance? 594 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 2: You think she knows I can name the whole Notre 595 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 2: Dame roster. Do you think that'll help me? 596 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 3: Well, you think she knows what Tiger did on Sunday? 597 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: Say no more. 598 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: That's what I think makes this really difficult. 599 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 3: Ddy. 600 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: It's just like, Okay, where are they? And I guess 601 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: in a way they stripped it kind of down in 602 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, but even then, Chris Boward stayed and 603 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 2: you know, so much of the core state and like, yes, 604 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: they've gotten rid of some of these guys this offseason, 605 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 2: but they have what two picks in the top one hundred. Yeah, 606 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: so again like how are you a cop this? 607 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: Like, hey, we want to get younger and faster. Well, 608 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just kind of difficult to do 609 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: all that. 610 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: So, yes, Isaac, there is an element of are they 611 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 2: just laying the inevitable? 612 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: You know, when is the best time to do it? 613 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: You know, again, twenty twenty three was kind of a time, 614 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 2: but they just whipped on that draft. 615 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 3: Do you think there's a fear within the front office 616 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: of doing a hard rebuild like that and losing fan 617 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 3: interest because I mean, look at the Pacers, for example, 618 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 3: Herb Simon has always been terrified of, you know, tearing 619 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 3: it down to the studs. Now, the Pacers didn't really 620 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 3: do that. 621 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 2: They kind of the Pacers that back to back years 622 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 2: the top ten picks, which is like the most they've 623 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 2: ever lost, right, but and now look. 624 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 3: At it, but that's something they hadn't done before, and 625 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 3: in large part because Herb Simon didn't want to be 626 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 3: in that category to potentially lose fans. And now look 627 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 3: all the fan interests that they've been able to drum up. 628 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think while in the moment it's frustrating, and 629 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 2: it's a bummer, you can live with it. Eddie Bolts 630 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: went six and ten and Peyton Manning's fourth year right 631 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: six and ten, and then that allowed them to get who. 632 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 3: In the draft? 633 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 2: Do I think who was after six and ten? Was 634 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: it Freey, some player of significant note there and boom? 635 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: The rest is history. 636 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 2: So I think having these setbacks, having these whatever you know, 637 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: hard resets here can be extremely beneficial to your ability 638 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 2: to you know, find important pieces in the draft and 639 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 2: move on from there. 640 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 3: Thank you Isaac for the question. Also to Nathan and Drew. 641 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 3: Nathan is next States. I'm a longtime listener and Colts 642 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 3: fan and Atlanta. I'm curious, are there is there any 643 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 3: chance the Colts decided to keep Anthony richardson after assessing 644 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 3: trade offers. It's hard to me to give up on 645 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 3: him given his physical tools. If there's if there isn't 646 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 3: going to be a starting option, then why not stay 647 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 3: put and develop under Shane Steichen. Daniel Jones is going 648 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 3: to give you plenty of opportunity to spot start with injuries, 649 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 3: and if I'm the Colts brass, I feel much better 650 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 3: about a backup quarterback with him in the room, competing 651 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 3: with Riley Leonard. We don't need the ten million dollar 652 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 3: cap space if we aren't going to sign a premiere 653 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 3: pass rusher in free agency. 654 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. 655 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: Think it's the most ridiculous idea at all. Really. You know, again, 656 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 2: if Daniel Jones's a setback, who would you rather see? 657 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: You clearly don't need the cap space. 658 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: You know again, when I kind of pictured this offseason, 659 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 2: I assumed they wanted to maximize every dollar and cent. 660 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: That would big reason why they handled the Jones Pierce. 661 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 2: Who do you tag? Who? Do you not situation the 662 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 2: matter that they did? 663 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: I mean, do you need the draft pick? What would 664 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: the draft pick even be for this year? 665 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: I assume if you traded Richardson, wouldn't you want some 666 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 2: playing conditions on that you traded him. Wouldn't you have 667 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: some sort of playing time? Hey, if he starts X 668 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 2: amount of games, it becomes a fourth. If he's not, 669 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 2: it becomes a fit. 670 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, I would, I mean yes, but that. 671 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 2: Would mean to twenty seven draft back. So and like, 672 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 2: I don't view him very distractionly, you know. I I 673 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 2: maybe I'm not acknowledging it enough, but I don't necessarily 674 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 2: think he would fall into that boat. So yeah, I 675 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 2: don't think Nathan, it's that crazy of an idea, especially 676 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: in the manner of how the off season rolled. Now, 677 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 2: am I expecting it? No, I'm expecting him to be gone, 678 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 2: to be very clear. But if Daniel Jones goes down 679 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 2: for a month, are you just have you moved on 680 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 2: to Riley Leonard or would you rather see Anthony Richardson. 681 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great point. I don't know, that's the debate. Yeah. 682 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 3: And if you're Anthony Richardson, is there a team out 683 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,959 Speaker 3: there that it's already been you know, reported by some 684 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 3: people that there's not a lot of interest in him 685 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,239 Speaker 3: in terms of being a starter with the team, If 686 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 3: there's a team out there that's willing to take him on. 687 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 3: And if you're Richardson and you're seeking out trade, you know, 688 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 3: candidates who you're looking at, you're looking at Green Bay 689 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 3: with what they just did with Malie. 690 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: Lewis, Yeah, that is that is very good. 691 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 3: The final question is from Drew States, So all play 692 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 3: Devil's Advocate not saying what you wrote about Chris Ballard's 693 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 3: missing on it Trey Hendrickson is wrong, But wouldn't you 694 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 3: think after missing on high picks used on pass rushers 695 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 3: that haven't panned out once you learn from your mistakes 696 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 3: and or just cut your losses, except that you cannot 697 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,239 Speaker 3: effectively scout a productive pass rusher and throw money at 698 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 3: a rare, proven pass rusher that hits free agency. 699 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's definitely some truth in that. 700 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 3: Sam and Drew, he's done it twice now and he's 701 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 3: come up short both times. 702 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Daniel Hunters, that are you referencing? 703 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, the other one. 704 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and again there's some hometown ties to be fair there. 705 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 2: But I just I mean, a you could, I guess, 706 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 2: go above and beyond if you wanted to, for a 707 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 2: financial sense, try to do what you do with Moody 708 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 2: Ward and get player here. But you know, in terms 709 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 2: of a scouting standpoint, I can't eliminate that. You know, 710 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 2: it's so vital if you do find like if Quitty 711 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 2: pay would have hit, let's just play that out. What 712 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 2: was that thirteen million was the fifth year option around there? 713 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 3: I thought it was fifteen maybe. 714 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 2: For somebody that I was thirteen, But like that's you know, 715 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 2: that's beyond manageable when you think about it. 716 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: If you have a pass rusher. 717 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 2: That is you know, arrows trending up and you want 718 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 2: that guy to be here for a second contract and 719 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 2: all of that, And again maybe you need to scout differently. 720 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 2: You've had different defensive coordinators, you know, try and tap 721 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 2: a little bit into that in terms of the pass rush. So, yes, Drew, 722 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 2: I think there is a part of, hey, you know, 723 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 2: maybe you do just need to say, all right, enough 724 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 2: is enough. We need to try something else here, mainly 725 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 2: from a free agency standpoint, but I was still a 726 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 2: fan of double dipping coming back in the draft, like 727 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 2: that position means that much. You know, I've gotten here 728 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 2: with quarterback over the years, like I would draft one 729 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 2: every year. 730 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: That's a that's a change in thought that I've had here. 731 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: Probably would last I don't know, three to four years. 732 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: Pass rusher in some way, shape or form, you should 733 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 2: probably draft one ever year. 734 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 3: Mm hm. 735 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 2: Now again I'm not saying every year has got to 736 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 2: be first, second, or third round. But you know what, 737 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 2: if I had the right draft capital every year, I 738 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 2: might do that. I mean, it's just if you can 739 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 2: have an abundance of young rushers and again, some you're 740 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 2: gonna hit on, some of you're not. Oh my gosh, 741 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 2: Can you imagine what that could do for you under 742 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 2: that premise? So that's kind of how I would go. 743 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 3: So things we've learned today, Kevin that was it, Kam 744 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 3: Taylor brit No, not Kam Taylor Britt Oh Nick Westbrooky 745 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 3: Kine is five hundred and fifty two days older than me. 746 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, rivity, Uh huh. Can you imagine people listen to 747 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 2: this podcast? 748 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then a Keem Davis Gaither is three hundred 749 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 3: and sixty eight days older than me as well. 750 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 2: Incredible. You're you're moving up, You're you're climbing above Chris 751 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 2: Presley and Joey mul and Arrow and the greatest producers. 752 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 3: And you know, I do have one question here as 753 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 3: we round out of the podcast. If you went from uh, 754 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 3: you know that kid at Cathedral that was you know, 755 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,280 Speaker 3: hands in pockets like the Kevin James meme and afraid 756 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 3: to talk to girl? How did you land Mattie Bowen? 757 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 3: How did you work up the courage to uh eventually 758 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 3: ask her on a date, let alone for her to 759 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 3: be your wife. 760 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 2: A true Milond miracle, A true miland miracle here in 761 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,439 Speaker 2: the month of March, very fitting right, Yeah? 762 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: U N B C. 763 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 2: Over Virginia, Fairley Dickinson over Purdue, Furman over Virginia. Do 764 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 2: you hear Do you hear Gus Johnson yelling? 765 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 3: Do you can you believe what we just? 766 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 2: Slipper still fits right, Yeah, that's what he yelled at 767 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 2: me when I got on a knee to propose. 768 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: He's at a garrison. I'm Kevin Bow and everybody have 769 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: a great, great week, enjoy March. 770 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 2: Madnis. Want to send by the fan all your colds coverage.