1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Sweet sixteen. Tonight, Perdue in San Jose 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: taking on Texas. Perdue the number two seed, Texas the 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: number eleven seed. 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 2: We've come all this way. 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Who would have thought in the depths of February, when 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: things were not going Perdue's way, that they would be 7 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: one game away from the Elite eight. James Boyd, that. 8 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 3: Is a very good point you make. 9 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 4: They turned it around the Big Ten Tournament and have 10 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 4: not looked back since. 11 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: And we talked about defense. They just were not playing 12 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: any at that point in time. They've gotten a lot 13 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: better defensively, they've gotten a lot better on the rotations. 14 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: And they're scoring the basketball. 15 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: Look at when Kevin, you know this, when Fletcher Lawyer 16 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: is scoring from the outside, and you got Trey copp 17 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: and Renn playing that amazing two man game with Braden Smith, 18 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: it's a really tough team to defend. 19 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 5: Here we go, Here we go. I mean, the week 20 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 5: has now moved to Thursday, and the jubilation you have 21 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 5: on Monday and Tuesday has now shifted to nervous energy, 22 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 5: nervous anticipation. It's part of fan Frankly, it's part of 23 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 5: fandom that you want to experience, to be abundantly clear, 24 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 5: a lot of fan bases in this state and in 25 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,919 Speaker 5: this market have not felt that in quite a while. 26 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 5: But yeah, honestly, I kind of had a variety of 27 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 5: emotions driving in and thinking about Purdue playing tonight. Of like, again, 28 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 5: I expect them to win, but you know, the reality is, 29 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 5: you know, you are forty minutes away from is this it? 30 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 5: And what an unbelievable career that the senior class has had, 31 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 5: and you want it to I think be the Hollywood ending, 32 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 5: But sports oftentimes ain't that. So can't wait for tonight 33 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 5: the anticipation of it all. Obviously, it would set up 34 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 5: just a incredible matchup on Saturday, regardless of the opponent, 35 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 5: and then what a story it could be for five 36 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 5: days next week leading into playing in a building that is, 37 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 5: what you know, an hour and ten minutes from your campus. 38 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 5: So yes, nervous energy, I think that's the way to 39 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 5: describe it. And how does brain Smith bounce? You know, 40 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 5: he has been a guy that has not had very 41 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 5: many of those performances in his career. I actually thought 42 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 5: against UCLA last week in the Big Ten tournament, he 43 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 5: was a little off and then was outstanding against Michigan 44 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 5: in the Big Ten title game last year, McNeice in 45 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 5: Round two again not great, and then against Houston. I 46 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 5: thought he quarterbacked it beautifully in the Sweet sixteen game, 47 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 5: So expect him to bounce back. But him knowing you know, 48 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 5: his public comments about I realize you know what legacy 49 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 5: means and all of that. Curious how much that is 50 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 5: on his mind tonight. 51 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: I can't even entertain a loss. 52 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: I'm all in on this, this Purdue team getting to 53 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: the Elite eight, and we'll see how it all plays out. 54 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: But I would expect to Kevin's point, I would expect 55 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: Braden Smith just doesn't do consecutive bad games, does he. 56 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: We don't have that history, do we. 57 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 6: No. 58 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 4: Honestly, the sign of a great player is the fact 59 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 4: that you really don't have those string of bad games. 60 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 4: But I know we'll get into it throughout the show, 61 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 4: but just for the early listeners, I'm very curious to 62 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 4: see what's the status CJ. 63 00:02:59,240 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 7: Cox. 64 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 4: And I know he said he got an MR on 65 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 4: the knee and it came back pretty good. He also 66 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 4: said he's relieved not to have a major injury. But 67 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: at the same time, I don't think he did much 68 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 4: throughout that short practice the other day that they had 69 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: and his status. I believe he probably will play. That's 70 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 4: my gut feeling. But at the same time, what does 71 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 4: that look like? 72 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 7: You know? 73 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 4: Are u CJ. Cox the guy who has been on 74 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 4: a tear as of later? Are you compromising anyway? 75 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's huge. We should note for Texas 76 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 5: Jordan Pope, one of the more dynamic guards, he is 77 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 5: dealing with an ankle injury himself. He had seventeen against 78 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 5: Zagia last round, had a thirty point game this see tournament. 79 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 5: I think the thought there is he will give it 80 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 5: a go. But still that's a little bit of a 81 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 5: question from a Texas side of it. Coming up for tonight. 82 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, he real quick. Here's what T. J. 83 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 4: Cox said, and this is the courtesy of Nathan Barrett 84 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 4: over at indiestar dot com. They're Boiler's reporter, and he said, 85 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 4: I feel like I helped the team a lot on 86 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 4: defense and also on offense. But if I didn't play 87 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 4: in the game, meaning the previous game, I feel like 88 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 4: this team is capable of beating anyone in the country, 89 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 4: so I'm not really worried. I do think this team 90 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 4: is capable of beating any team in the country with 91 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 4: Tuesday Cox. 92 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: So I mean, he's very humble and very down to earth. 93 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 4: But brother, they need you, and I do think if 94 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 4: you are not who you are physically, then that might 95 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 4: hinder where they can go. 96 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 5: They don't have four wins in their pocket without him 97 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 5: in the lineup here coming up in the next two weeks, 98 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 5: So I think he means that much. So yeah, I 99 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 5: don't think that's a big storyline for tonight. 100 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: Well, hopefully he'll be okay, and maybe look, if they 101 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: do tonight to Texas what the Lakers did in the 102 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: first quarter to the Pacers last night, then he can 103 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: kind of sit on the bench and rest a little bit. 104 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: They'll be fine. 105 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: They'll be fine. 106 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 7: Yeah. 107 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 4: Me and Caleb got to se one last night and 108 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 4: that was quite the game. Quite the start there, Caleb. 109 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 4: You know, ten oh, and you start thinking, all right, 110 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 4: ping punk balls. 111 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 8: Hey, James, the game is over. Before I even got 112 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 8: to my seat, right, I got off another job at seven, 113 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 8: I said, James, I'm gonna hustle over there. And when 114 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 8: I got in my seat, I think the Lakers are 115 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 8: already up fifteen. 116 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 5: But Rick had already taken his time out of disgust 117 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 5: before you fucked out. 118 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, I tried to leave early. No, man, it was 119 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 8: fun too, Like just to see Lebron and Bronni on 120 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 8: the court together. I think James were talking about that. 121 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 8: We'll tell our kids about that. Bronni erupted for four 122 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 8: points last night. He had a nice mid range jumper. 123 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 8: Some of his threes we were bad, missus though, but no, 124 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 8: it was cool and the Pacers almost made it kind 125 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 8: of interesting at the end. 126 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 3: They started his some threes, but I mean they got 127 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 3: to it. 128 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: In six with like twenty seconds to go. They were 129 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: getting there, but it was it. 130 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 3: Was done, honestly, Jeff. 131 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 4: It was just that first quarter that was god awful, 132 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 4: because the rest of the way they were pretty even. 133 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: But yeah, and they made a nice little run at 134 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: the end of the first half and I thought, Okay, 135 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: maybe they'll kind of get back in this thing. But 136 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: then the start of the third quarter of the Lakers 137 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: just took control again. 138 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 7: And that was that. 139 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: Although you know, we were talking the other day, regardless 140 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: of whether you're a Lebron fan or you don't like Lebron, 141 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm still amazed at his age that the way he moves. 142 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: He still moves very athletically. That dunk he had over 143 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: Jay Huff last night was no joke. 144 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: He had a few of them. 145 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 4: How I'm just thinking to myself, he's still in the 146 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 4: ninety nine percent sigh when it comes to athleticism. 147 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: But on a different note, we did see. 148 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 4: Kaitlyn Clark in a different role, a different shooting role. 149 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 4: She was out there shooting some different types of shots 150 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 4: as a photographer on the baseline, So that thought. 151 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: That was cool. 152 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 5: CJ. 153 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 3: Miles, I think, was out there as well taking photos. 154 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: There was a bunch of fever over there were there. 155 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure about a bunch of fever. I actually, 156 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 4: I mean you would have to verify. I saw filled 157 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 4: me in, but I definitely saw Caitlyn out there. Thought 158 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 4: that was pretty cool. 159 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: She had a sweet looking Pacers jacket on though, too. 160 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: Did you see that jacket? 161 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 3: Well, is at the vest. You gotta wear the vest 162 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 3: if you're on the baseline, so. 163 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: She got like a but yeah, I think she put 164 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: the vest on afterwards. But yeah, she was taking pictures. 165 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: Tyrees was back after being gone Kevin with the shingles 166 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: for a while. 167 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: He was back on the bench last night. 168 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I highlighted the night for the Pacers Kaitlyn Clark 169 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 5: taking pictures and Tyree's Talivern was that was kind of. 170 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 3: That's It's true. 171 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: Andrew Nemhart had an unbelievable game. 172 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,679 Speaker 3: That is fair. No, that is very nineteen nineteen turnover 173 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 3: his career high. 174 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 5: I always feel this way about Nemart. His best positions 175 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 5: point guard, right it is who was last night? 176 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 4: And like it is, I don't just go ahead and 177 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 4: ask it, well, no, I ask you, but like put 178 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 4: it out there. 179 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 5: I'm not like going there like, oh my gosh, you 180 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 5: should move him. No, no, no, and all of a 181 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 5: sudden you can whatever, upgrade to two guard because I think 182 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 5: there are a lot of franchise out there that would 183 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 5: love to have him as their starting point guard. But 184 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 5: I'm just I guess I'm curious, Like I think Andrew 185 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 5: Nemhart needs to be a core piece to the next 186 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 5: window here for the Pacers. Oh absolutely, But I also 187 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 5: am curious, like what calls have the Pacers ever feelded 188 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 5: about Andrew Nemhart being point guard for another franchise. 189 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,119 Speaker 1: He keeps doing what he does this past couple of games, 190 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: They're gonna get like I would think. 191 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 5: You would like it. And even prior to this, I 192 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 5: mean you think about when Ty went down, I guess 193 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 5: in the postseason that was you know, a couple of 194 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 5: year years ago, that Celtic series. You know, I thought 195 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 5: nem Hard showed a lot, you know, in that whatever 196 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 5: brief four game series there. So yeah, it has kind 197 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 5: of been a reminder of, you know, how good he 198 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 5: is as a point guard. But yeah, it's the result 199 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 5: that probably a lot of Pacers fans were content with 200 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 5: and should know. Benedic Matheren did play last night for 201 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 5: the Clippers, first time in a week and a half, 202 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 5: twenty three points and six assists off the bench for him, 203 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 5: so very much looked quite well. And I believe Caleb, 204 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 5: you have some Mather and audio we can get to 205 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 5: here later in the show. He did touch on being 206 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 5: in Indy coming up tomorrow night, so again Pacers Clippers, 207 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 5: Benedict matherin return game Manyana. 208 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, And here's the thing. I want to go back 209 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: to Neimhard real quickly. When you look at this construction, 210 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: the roster construction moving into the next year, there are 211 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: going to be so many possibilities and options, and you know, 212 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: they're either going to get another wing or even another 213 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: big depending on how everything falls for them in the draft. 214 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: But I mean, you'll be able to play Zubots as 215 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: much as you want, probably thirty thirty two minutes a game, 216 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: and Jay Huff is going to be fantastic to come 217 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: in and spell him for a few minutes when teams 218 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: want to do a thing like they did last year 219 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: on ty Reese where they really try to make it 220 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: difficult for him to get the ball up the floor 221 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: or to get the ball back once he releases it. 222 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: You have a whole nother point guard on the floor 223 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: now with them Heart that can do a lot of 224 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: different things. And I think that'll free up Haliburton and 225 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: it'll free up everybody else. They'll they'll have these pieces 226 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: and parts back and healthy. They'll have an addition to it. 227 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: And I just think for a guy like Rick Carlisle, 228 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: he's got to go to sleep at night as frustrated 229 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: as this as he is probably with the season right now, thinking, Man, 230 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna that's gonna be quite an eight or nine 231 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: man rotation that we're gonna have next year. 232 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 3: Well, two things. 233 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 4: Number one, I think what you touch on Jeff, They've 234 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 4: shown that already, honestly, the two back to back conference 235 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 4: finals runs and get into the finals. Andrew Nimhart definitely 236 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 4: was a great not off ball, but like another option 237 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 4: when Tyre's Halliburton didn't necessarily have it going or was 238 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 4: getting offended very tightly. And then I would just say, 239 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 4: if they're able to add another piece like not win 240 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 4: but if that is a big, big if we would 241 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 4: like to assume, oh man, you made this trade, the 242 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 4: pink pong balls will be forgiving. You'll get the chance 243 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 4: to add a franchise pillar. 244 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 3: But that is not a guarantee. So we will see 245 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 3: in a few months what. 246 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: Happened Mother's Day. 247 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 5: Baby. 248 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: It just feel I guess my point is, it feels 249 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: like as good as nim Hart is yet, and that's 250 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: coming up quick, but as good as nim Hart is already, 251 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: it just feels like his point guard abilities have gone 252 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: to a different level this year. Yeah, it's the old 253 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: adage of. 254 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 7: Again. 255 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 5: I think Andrew dumhar is a really quality player, but 256 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 5: Jake Qurey says quite often, somebody's got to put up 257 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 5: stats on a twenty one team. I get that too, 258 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 5: and that is just the reality of the Pacers season, but. 259 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: He's the one. 260 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: He and Siakam are consistently the guys on that team 261 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: all year long. 262 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 5: Very good players. 263 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: But again you're not asked to even keep them in games. 264 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 5: Sometimes you're not gonna ask Andrew DeMar to play anyone 265 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 5: near the role he's playing with this current agree iteration. 266 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: Just saying it just gives Rick Rick all kinds of 267 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: options and ways to play things and lineups that he 268 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: can mess with, which Lord knows he loves to do, 269 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: and he's really good at that stuff. 270 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: So I'm starting to. 271 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: Get excited for next October already, James, is what I'm saying. 272 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, what. 273 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 4: Is the Kevin start to show with you get a 274 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 4: little anxiety and nervousness, nervous energy. That nervous nervous energy 275 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 4: comes before the excitement for next October, Jeff, because the 276 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 4: ping pong Paul's brother. 277 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: Nervous energy. Nervous energy is a good thing for a fan. 278 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: Did you have nervous energy at the game last night, 279 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: Caleb nah, I was just sitting back. 280 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 5: Nervous energy for bricking for chicken, right that that is correct. 281 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 8: There is a lot of that in our section, Caleb. 282 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 4: Do you think our ear drums have recovered because we 283 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 4: had a lot of nonsense going on. 284 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 5: Ears were ringing. When the Lakers are in town, you 285 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 5: get a lot of nonsense. That's a good way to describe. 286 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, we we can definitely uh just some of that, 287 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 4: or discussed some of that throughout the show. 288 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: I will say one thing though, I was reminded of 289 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: this last night too, and about once or twice a year, 290 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: I see it, and I'm reminded of it all the 291 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: time because I watch enough basketball. But those Lakers purple 292 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: uniforms are pretty. 293 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 7: Man. 294 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: They are smooth, they they're classic. They go back forever. 295 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: They remind That's another thing that reminds me of my 296 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: childhood is watching classic Lakers teams in those purple jerseys. Man, 297 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: those are sweet. I always like this one thing I 298 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: always liked about the Lakers. I don't like them when 299 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: the Pacers are playing them, but their uniforms. 300 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: I love the gold. 301 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: I really like the purple, and I even like their 302 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: Sunday whites when they play on Sundays and they wear 303 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: the all whites. 304 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 4: All right, So if we want to keep you listening 305 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 4: to our show, I'll just circle back. We hate the Lakers, 306 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 4: hate Lebron, hate all things Cleveland. 307 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: Well we did last night. 308 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: Look, I want to be clear that Lebron Lakers are 309 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: not my Lakers at all. I'm talking about vintage Lakers 310 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: going all the way back when I was a little 311 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: kid and it was the very end of the West Chamberlain. 312 00:12:58,480 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: I only got to see them like their. 313 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: Last when I was a kid. 314 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 4: Hate Shaq heye Kobean from two thousand, Well, what else 315 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 4: is lefty? 316 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 5: I just when I heard pretty uniforms, I thought I 317 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 5: was talking to Rosie Bowen putting on her LSU basketball. 318 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: I was thinking this. I was thinking last night they I. 319 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 5: Love me Kim Maulky on the sideline. 320 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: I like the flow Jos a lot. 321 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: But I am a sucker for the classic gold Pacers uniforms. 322 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: I think those are sweet and probably my two favorite 323 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: uniforms in the league, the classic gold for the Pacers 324 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: and those purple Lakers uniform So that's that I got 325 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: that off my chest, all right, coming up in a minute, 326 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: we'll have the check down later on today. Jordan Cornett 327 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: will stop by and talk to us about the Sweet sixteen. 328 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: Chris CapCo, he's the brand new head basketball coach at 329 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: Ball State. We'll speak with him and we'll talk more 330 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: about the new head coach, Chit Butler. Big day ahead 331 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: right here at ninety three five and one O seven 332 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: to five the fan, as mentioned at the top of 333 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: the show, welcome to this Sweet sixteen. Later on tonight 334 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: seven to ten pm on CBS two, Seed Perdue taking 335 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: on number eleven Texas West Region. Purdue has won six 336 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: in a row, seven of their last eight Kevin Bowen. 337 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: Braden Smith didn't have his best game last time out, 338 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: but he's still averaging fourteen points nine assists a game 339 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: for the entire season, and I would expect to bounce 340 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: back game from Braden Smith. 341 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 2: He seems to do that very raally. 342 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: Does he have an off game, but when he does, 343 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: generally comes back pretty well. 344 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 5: Did in this very round last year. I thought one 345 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 5: of his best games of his career was against Houston 346 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 5: and just quarterbacking it against that Kelvin Samson defense. But nonetheless, 347 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 5: we'll see how CJ. Cox looks Tonight's again. Jordan Pope 348 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 5: for Texas. He's a little banged up with an ankle 349 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 5: that it will be something to keep an eye on 350 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 5: and for those who have not seen Texas play this year. 351 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 5: They do have a really quality big guy out. I'm 352 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 5: not going to try and butcher his title name. Thank you. 353 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 5: That sounded good. Again, really skilled and bless me James. 354 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 5: And so how Purdue handles that. I think it will 355 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 5: be something that'll be a storyline here. But got four 356 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 5: games tonight again Perdue and Texas. Things started, and then 357 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 5: you've got the Houston region. I call that the drinking 358 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 5: beer game. Iowa Nebraska at seven point thirty. And my 359 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 5: favorite game is actually the last game of the night, 360 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 5: Houston in Illinois. 361 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: All right, we're looking forward to a big day of 362 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: the Sweet sixteen. And also, while we're on Purdue, just 363 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: the balances. I was looking over game notes and stuff 364 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: last night. James Braiden Smith fourteen, nine assists, and then 365 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: you have fourteen points and eight rebounds a game for 366 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: Trey Kaufman. Wrenn Fletcher Lawyer averages fourteen points a game, 367 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: Oscar Cluff ten and a half points, seven and a 368 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: half rebounds. They really do use each and every guy 369 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: to his max. 370 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 4: Yes, but I think to the point we've all made 371 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 4: throughout this week, you need Braiden Smith to be at 372 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 4: his max in moments like this. Can't have the Braidsmith 373 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 4: we saw I believe in the round thirty two, and 374 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 4: the team. 375 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: Is good enough to absorb those things. 376 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 4: But I just want to seem shoot the basketball better and 377 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 4: obviously not have eight turnovers. 378 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: All right, So that Sweet six team comes your way 379 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: later on tonight seven ten on CBS. We wait to 380 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: see if CJ. Cox can play with that injured right 381 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: and if so, how healthy is it and how effective 382 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: can he be? We'll check it out for you. In 383 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: the NBA last night, the Lakers over the Pacers one 384 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: thirty seven to one thirty James, you and Caleb were there, 385 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: and Caleb, the game was essentially over by the time 386 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: you got to your seat, was it not? 387 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 9: It was? 388 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 8: It was, but it still ended up kind of being 389 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 8: close at the end. But yeah, it was fun just 390 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 8: to see the Lakers in town. But it was a 391 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 8: good time. Me and James had a good time. 392 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: The Pacers spent much of the night trying to battle 393 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: back from twenty plus point deficits. They got close a 394 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: little bit towards the end of the first half, looked 395 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: like they were cutting into it, and at the very 396 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: end of the game. You see, it's a seven point game, 397 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: but they hit a three or two right in the 398 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: last thirty forty five seconds to kind of close that 399 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: gap and never got closer than six. 400 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe the line was Lakers minus eight and 401 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 4: a half. 402 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 3: So there was some audible. 403 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: Rows over top him. 404 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 10: So there was that and some cheers from some peoples, 405 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 10: but a lot more pain, I would say in that 406 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 10: one for sure, And so shout out to the station 407 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 10: as well for blessing us with those tickets. 408 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: Luca Dansis forty three points. In the other meeting of 409 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: the two teams this year, he had forty four. He 410 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: averaged forty three and a half points a game against 411 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: the Pacers this year. 412 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 4: James, well, in a joking way, Ri Carlisle, he's the coach. 413 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 4: Luca dannc just said after the game, Well we held 414 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 4: him blow his average. Yeah, forty three and a half. 415 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 4: He only had forty three. 416 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: If you're keeping track at home. The agelest Lebron James 417 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: scored twenty three points. Also terrific night Kevin for Andrew 418 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: Nemhart fourteen points, nineteen assists last night. 419 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, again, he's put up some huge, huge numbers here lately, 420 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 5: and the Pacers continue to play. You know, if you 421 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 5: look at it, siakam nemhar I meansakam, I know you 422 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 5: have the shower early, but nemhard, Nie Smith, you know 423 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 5: they are playing these guys here late, which you're kind 424 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 5: of a little bummer because I assume if Viza Zubots 425 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 5: wouldn't have fractured his rib, we'd be seeing him as well, 426 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 5: more from an entertainment value than anything. 427 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: All Right, Other games of note in the NBA last night, 428 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: I do want to point out that the Boston Celtics 429 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: beat the Oklahoma City Thunder first law the Thunder have 430 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: had in almost a month, one nineteen to one oh nine. 431 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: And with Jason Tatum back, are the Celtics now the 432 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: team to beat in the Eastern Conference right now? 433 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 3: James, it's a great question. 434 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say yes, mainly because I don't know what 435 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 4: Kay Cunningham will look like the number one in the 436 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 4: East of Pistons, but he's dealing with that collapsed long 437 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 4: and trying to get back to playing basketball, so it's 438 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 4: a big question mark for me. 439 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: Also, the Statapaloosa for this year continues. Last night Nuggets 440 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: beat the Mavericks one forty two to one thirty five. 441 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: Jamal Murray dropped fifty three on a night when Nikola 442 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: Jokic had twenty three points, twenty one rebounds and nineteen assists. 443 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 4: He couldn't get one more assists for a twenty twenty 444 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 4: twenty game, and it was a home already falling off. 445 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: Kevin at home. 446 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: Don't you find that one more assist with the scorekeeper 447 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: on the bench over there. 448 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 5: That scorekeeper wants a Christmas tip? 449 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: Then yeah, uh, that's what's happening in the NBA WNBA. 450 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: The expansion draft date has been set James April the third, 451 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: the Toronto Ten and the Portland Fire. We'll get to 452 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: choose players off of everybody else's rosters who have not 453 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: been protected. Fever are likely to protect Caitlin Clark, Kelsey Mitchell, 454 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: Aleah Boston, Lexi Hole and Mikayla Timpson. Probably not going 455 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: to be able to protect Sophie Cunningham, and I would 456 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: imagine she's a prime target for one of those two 457 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: expansion teams somewhere along one. 458 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 8: Jeff, he said they're likely to retain Caitlin Clark was like, 459 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 8: they haven't. 460 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: It's not an official list yet, just want to be 461 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: sure I've done that before. And then these two guys 462 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: rightly are like, no, it's not it's not an official list, 463 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: and they are right to do that. So I'm more 464 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: on my p's and q's now. I like it all right, 465 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: So the official Yeah, I think Kaitlyn Clark will be okay, 466 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: I agree. 467 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 2: All right. 468 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball Opening Day yesterday, the New York Yankees 469 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: shutting out the San Francisco Giants seven nothing. Max Freed 470 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: was terrific, allowed just two hits in six and the 471 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: third innings, but Aaron Judge, despite the Yankees scoring seven runs, was. 472 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: Oh for five. Kevin with four strikeouts last night. 473 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 5: I'm all about the Reds today, four ten Andrew Abbott, 474 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 5: the race to win ninety four games, ninety fours a 475 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 5: lot ninety one. 476 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: Did we get Hunter green Back before the All Star 477 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 2: break or not? 478 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 5: I'm gonna look at him as the trade deadline addition. 479 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll see what happens there. Also, the Cubs will 480 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: host the Nationals at two twenty this afternoon. The Rays 481 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: play at the Cards at four fifteen. Of course, tomorrow 482 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: night Opening night for the Indianapolis Indians. They will host 483 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: Saint Paul at six thirty five over at Victory Field. 484 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: We have to mention too, that Butler hired Ronald nore 485 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: Ed yesterday found that out at the end of the show. 486 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: Just a question for you guys, though Kevin did. 487 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: Did Butler even consider outside options for the most part, 488 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: because even John Gross has a link to Butler basketball. 489 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean definitely seemed like the candidates were all 490 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 5: in the family. I do at some point today I 491 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 5: want to play some Ronald nored audio. You know, we 492 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 5: had him on the show a couple of years ago, 493 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 5: right before he was getting ready to coach Benedic Mathern 494 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 5: ironically in the Pacer Summer League. He was the head 495 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 5: coach of the Pacer Summer League, and I had kind 496 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 5: of forgotten that he had interviewed with Barry Collier right 497 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 5: before they hired Thad Mana, So you know, again Ronald 498 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 5: Nora had been the Butler head coach. I don't think 499 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 5: it's too much of a surprise to anyone, dating back 500 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 5: even several years now. At that point, I think his 501 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 5: answer of where does he see himself in a few 502 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 5: years is kind of an interesting one. I don't think 503 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 5: he necessarily saw himself on the collegiate sideline, so we 504 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,719 Speaker 5: can play that upcoming here, but he'll be introduced tomorrow 505 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 5: at noon over there at hinklefield House for Ronald Nord. 506 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 5: Speaking of Hinkle field House, we do have the NIT 507 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 5: Final Four coming up a week from I think it's 508 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 5: tonight again next. 509 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: Week next Sunday. 510 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 5: In between the Final four Saturday night and the championship 511 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 5: game Monday, you'll have the NIT Championship, the D two Championship, 512 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 5: and the D three Championship all over a Gamebridge Field House. 513 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 5: The semis for the NIT will still be at Hinkle, 514 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 5: and that is on Thursday night. It'll be Auburn against 515 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 5: Illinois State. I assume you'll have a nice contingent there 516 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 5: from the Redbirds taking the trip over. Then New Mexico 517 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 5: Tulsa is your other game there in the n i 518 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 5: T Final four here at Hinkle. 519 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: There's a lot of good stuff to come here in 520 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: the next ten to fourteen days in Indianapolis, and we 521 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: are always here for it. Also, speaking of college basketball coaches, 522 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: Chris CapCo, the new Ball State head coach, going. 523 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 2: To join us a little bit later on today. 524 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: Kevin looking forward to meeting him and talking to him 525 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: just a little bit. Yeah, I know very little about him. 526 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 5: Did watch the PROSS conference a lot of energy, and 527 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 5: again I don't think like a ton of direct ties 528 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 5: really to ball state or the state of Indiana in 529 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 5: general here, but a twenty six year NCAA tournament drought. 530 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 5: That is what Chris CapCo will try to end there 531 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 5: in Muncie. 532 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: Tweet tweet, all right, anything else you guys want to 533 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: throw in? Before we had to break, I thought it 534 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: was chirp, chirp, Thank you got your tweet. 535 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 7: You're right. 536 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 2: I was thinking I was looking at my Twitter. 537 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 5: For is gonna find you jew Charlie the Cardinals next week. 538 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: It'll be the first time I'll get less broccoli and 539 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: the beef and broccoli next week. 540 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 5: Maybe played more tweet tweet not enough chirp, chirp, Yeah, yeah, 541 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 5: there you go. Good save, there you go. 542 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 2: All right. 543 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: Coming up in a moment, we'll talk more about tonight's 544 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: matchup in the Sweet sixteen. Purdue has had no trouble 545 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: making the tournament. With Matt Painter. Tonight, they have an 546 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: opportunity to advance to the Elite eight. We'll talk about 547 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: it next at ninety three, five and one oh seven 548 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: five the fan. That's what I'm talking about right there, Caleb, 549 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: Tonight's going to be a good, good. 550 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 2: Night walk about the Black Eyed Peas. 551 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: Jeff, I love the Black Eyed Peas were talking about. Yeah, 552 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: it's coming up tonight seven to ten on your television set. 553 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: For those who didn't make the trip to Santa is it, 554 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: what kind of a contingent do you expect Kevin Purdue 555 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: to take with him to San Jose for a Sweet 556 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: sixteen round? 557 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 5: Ah, it's hard to say. I can't imagine it'll be 558 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 5: a time. I think Purdue fans travel quite well, but still, 559 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 5: you know, going out there to San Jose, I don't know. 560 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 5: That might be a little, hey spring break with the family. 561 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 5: We could kind of swing Saint Louis Buus, Indy. 562 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 3: Saint Louis. That was my childhood boy a Midwestern. 563 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: Or Saint Louis or East Saint Louis, James, did you 564 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: see it up? 565 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 4: We did not do it up, or we might have 566 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 4: if it's been several years since I was a child, 567 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 4: of course, but yeah, Saint Louis was the where my 568 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 4: aunt's stayed for many many years, and that was a 569 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 4: midwesterner's dream as an eight year old. 570 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: Well, tonight it'll be Purdue Texas, and again Purdue has 571 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: really turned things around. 572 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 2: They just they looked like they were missing a spark 573 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 2: plug or something in February. 574 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: It just fits and starts and couldn't get it really going, 575 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: and they'd lost six of. 576 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 2: Ten at one point in time. 577 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: But Manna, they turned it around seven of their last eight, 578 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: six in a row, running the table into Big ten 579 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 1: and now getting through the first week of the NCAA tournament. 580 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: And it's been fun to watch because the two man game. 581 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: I know that he didn't have a tremendous game by 582 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: his standards the other night, but even still that two 583 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: man games, so things aren't going well. Just get the 584 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: ball inside of tre Kaufman Ren and let him operate. 585 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: Man does that guy will find a bucket, won't he? Yeah? 586 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 4: I think I was talking to Caleb about this last night. 587 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 4: We're sitting there and watching the Pacers and it's like, 588 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 4: you know, sweet sixteen's coming up. How would you like 589 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 4: to be the defender who has to put their chest 590 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 4: in front of Trey Coffin Wren? 591 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 3: Like, I don't know, I'm not built for that. 592 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 4: Caleb, maybe you are a little more well equipped in 593 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 4: that apartment, but that department. 594 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 8: Me, I mean, I mean, I mean, I would get bulldozed, man. 595 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, that's where you needed Vitza Zubats 596 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: to come in. 597 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 2: And he'll truly, he'll hold his ground. 598 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 4: But jokes aside, though, I think Trey Coffin Wren is 599 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 4: playing his best basketball the season. And I know we 600 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 4: say that for a lot of different players at this time. 601 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 4: You want to pick at the right time. We're gonna 602 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 4: play the best basketball in March, but he legitimately is. 603 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 4: I think that it's kind of gone under the radar. 604 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 4: How good of a score he is because of the 605 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 4: arrival of Oscar Cluff and clearly having to share some 606 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 4: of those opportunities. But boy, you put him in the 607 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 4: post one on one, I'll take him over a lot 608 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 4: of defenders in the country. 609 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously, I think Fletcher Lawyer has been outstanding. Oh yes, 610 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 5: him too for Purdue really over the last month or so, 611 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 5: you know, you know tonight, Okay, what what worries you? 612 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 5: You know, what what will ultimately be Produe's downfall if 613 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 5: we see it here over the next two weeks, you know, 614 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 5: I think it is defending teams that you know, have 615 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 5: some drivers. And then at times I did think Miami, 616 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 5: you know, a they just got to the rim way 617 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 5: too easily, and then be the ability to create an 618 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 5: extra possession or two. You know, does Purdue get in 619 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 5: some of these scrambling situations. I know, from a staff standpoint, 620 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 5: produced a little concerned about Texas having some individual drivers 621 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 5: that could be hard to keep in front of them. 622 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 5: So if you are beat and now you get into 623 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 5: scramble mode, Texas might not have the shooting that a 624 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 5: Wisconsin or in Illinois or a Michigan, you know, kind 625 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 5: of exposed Purdue and those wins in Mackie. But that 626 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 5: would probably be a question that you would have for 627 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 5: the Boilers. And at times I thought Miami certainly was 628 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 5: able to expose some of that. 629 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: Uh TC is on the text line and he is 630 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: a repeatedly. 631 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 2: It may makes me wonder. 632 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: James, he's an IU basketball fan, but it feels like 633 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: he's got Purdue on his brain. They're living their rent 634 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: free right now. Because there's a string of texts over 635 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: the last week or two that go Purdue's gotten a 636 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: really easy draw. Purdue still doesn't have one national championship 637 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: with this great program you're bragging about. IU hires a 638 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: football coach and two years later they have a title. 639 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: Win's Purdue going to win one? And then Purdue never 640 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: celebrated national championships For as much success as IU has had. 641 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: Purdue's getting a lot of real estate. And that noggin 642 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: right there isn't it? 643 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 3: You know? 644 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 4: Me and pettiness. I'm trying to change my ways a 645 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 4: little bit. Why for reasons that the listeners definitely know. 646 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 4: But I think that you have to be, in my opinion, 647 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 4: just realistic with where things are and right now is Purdue. Man, 648 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 4: we got to talk about the team that's playing and 649 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 4: the same thing when IU football was rolling. So there's 650 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 4: not favoritism anything like that is just reality of our business. 651 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:01,239 Speaker 11: Oh. 652 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: I got texts and emails every day to the station 653 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: about even voicemails. I know IU football is having a 654 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: good season, but can you talk about anything else? And 655 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: it was always a Purdue fan that so the rivalry 656 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: is alive and well just healthy fan ten That's exactly 657 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:17,959 Speaker 1: what it is. 658 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 5: Granted I'm here for it. When's the last time IU 659 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 5: basketball is played a game? On March twenty six. 660 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 3: Oh, I mean that's a very fair question. 661 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 5: I know I asked that in all seriousness. 662 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 2: Just cutt into the court right there, Kevin. 663 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 4: No, I mean we talked about it a little bit yesterday, 664 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 4: but I mean a standard for IU where they were 665 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 4: and where they are now. 666 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 3: We can't sugarcoat that. 667 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 5: Again. You put Purdue. We did this earlier in the week. 668 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 5: Put Purdue seven Sweet sixteens in the last nine years 669 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 5: in context, you know, you do that around our state 670 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 5: right now. I mean, it's it's absurd what Purdue has 671 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 5: done here over the last decade in regards to what 672 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 5: and not just Indiana you want to throw out. We 673 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 5: talked about Indiana because the history and the resources invested 674 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 5: in that program. But you know, you want to go 675 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 5: to Butler, you want to go to Notre Dame, you 676 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 5: want to even go to the mid major programs. Yeah, 677 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 5: it's it's crazy. I mean, what did we say earlier 678 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 5: this week. In the last nine years, I think the 679 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 5: big three not named Perdue, Indiana, Butler, Notre Dame have 680 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 5: made the tournament. I believe it's four times made the 681 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 5: tournament four total times in those three schools, and Produce 682 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 5: made seven Sweet sixteens. 683 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: It's a new dan h and a national championship game 684 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: for sure. So sure they've been doing some good work 685 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: to see if they can get over the hump this year. 686 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: But it starts tonight against Texas in the Sweet sixteen. Caleb, 687 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: of of these two, which would you which would interest 688 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: you more? Perdue minus seven and a half for the 689 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: over under of one hundred and forty seven and a half. 690 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 8: Well, if there's anybody taking my betting advice, you're you're 691 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 8: tuning into the wrong show. Uh So, whatever I say, 692 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 8: take the opposite. 693 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: What is it? 694 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 8: Perdue minus seven? 695 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: You said seven and a half. 696 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 8: I think it's gonna be a close game, dude, Like 697 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 8: I just I don't know. I think in these types 698 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 8: of games, I think a lot of people around the country. 699 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 8: I don't think Purdue fans are doing this or Purdue 700 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 8: themselves doing this, but a lot of people around the country, 701 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 8: like look at the seed line and it's just like, oh, 702 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 8: it's eleven versus two, Like Purdue. You know, I'm in 703 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 8: an eliminator pool and I'm already out, but you know 704 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 8: a lot of people are taking Purdue, and it's like 705 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 8: I understand that, and I'm not saying Purdue is going 706 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 8: to lose either, but it's not just that easy. Like 707 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 8: Texas is not playing like an eleven seed right now. 708 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 8: So it's gonna come down to the wire. I think 709 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 8: it'll be close. 710 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 2: So this is how I see these lines. 711 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: When I see a minus seven and a half, to me, 712 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: that tells me the odd makers really think this is 713 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: a four or five point game, because we all know, 714 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: in the last thirty to forty five seconds of a game, 715 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: if it's a one and a half, two possession game, 716 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: something like that, four or five points, you got to 717 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: start fouling, and all of a sudden, those last four 718 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: to six points become free throws and that four point 719 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: lead becomes an eight point lead. 720 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 2: Very easy. Sure, So I always think about that right there. 721 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 5: I kind of on you got Obi top and banging 722 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 5: in a three at the bars. 723 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: They're in ruining that. 724 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 2: He sounds like that left the mark last night. 725 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 5: Ya walk on all of a sudden banks one end 726 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 5: from the volleyball line. 727 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: And that's why you gotta go at some point if 728 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: you've never done it, guys, you've got to go watch 729 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: the opening two days in Las Vegas, because at the 730 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: end of every game. 731 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 2: It is just a it's just. 732 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: A chorus of oh yeah, because, as Kevin says, somebody, 733 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: some walk on hits his big moment, three, somebody misses 734 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: a free throw. It always comes down to those one thing. 735 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: And you'll see guys ripping their tickets up and throwing 736 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: them up at the air like they do in the movies. 737 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 2: It's really a fun time. 738 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 4: So question, and I'm gonna just bear with me for 739 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,959 Speaker 4: a moment because me and Caleb had quite the experience 740 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 4: of the game yesterday. So we get there and I'm 741 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 4: already getting it. He sits down immediately recognizes that it's 742 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 4: quite interesting situation we're in. So set the scene one 743 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 4: Road three, section one nineteen, great view by the way 744 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 4: against the shout out to the station, one step five 745 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 4: the fan for the tickets. There's a kid right behind 746 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 4: us in a Luca jersey who screams after every single 747 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 4: play pass, Luca shoot it, Jake Laravia, you shoot it, 748 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 4: Austin Reeves, you cook him, Let's go bron Braun. 749 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's it's it's NonStop. Kids go crazy, 750 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 3: kitd new Ball, kayleb Canvaluchi the kidney ball. 751 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 4: Then we had a grown man in front of us, 752 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 4: a Pacers fan very clearly, who seemed to get physically 753 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 4: ill whenever the Lakers did anything correct. 754 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 3: He was invested. Man, Caleb, can can you explain what 755 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 3: we saw like that? 756 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 4: There was one moment in particular where I believe though 757 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 4: the Pacers may have made a shot and the man, 758 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 4: did he not fall to his knees? 759 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 2: Bro Like, I yes, yes he did. And here's the 760 00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 2: rent being being wagered last night. I just think he's. 761 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 5: Sobriety in question at all. 762 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 4: I know, I was there literally before tip off and 763 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 4: the guy, I think he's just wired that way. 764 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 8: And here's the thing, man, Like, it's like this when 765 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 8: the Pacers are sixteen and forever, right, I can't imagine 766 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 8: watching a June Finals game with. 767 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 3: This guy, Like what was he doing? 768 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 7: Yeah? 769 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 2: I mean the passion inspect was unmatched. 770 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 4: And I agree with Caleb, but boy, when he hit 771 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 4: his knees and we were a shout to Nick Cotton 772 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 4: Jim as well, Him and the wife came and we 773 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 4: were sitting next to them, and they brought their nine 774 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 4: month old daughter as well. She was very interested in 775 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 4: my hoodie and I told Nick, you know, hey, same 776 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 4: thing I told you guys, everyone's potty training, can talk. 777 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 7: He's a boy up. 778 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 3: I would definitely babysit, but jokes aside. 779 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 4: Man, he legitimately fell to his knees on some hard 780 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 4: concrete steps, and I was thinking to myself, boy, you 781 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 4: ever think you. 782 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 3: Were questioned the passion of Pacers fans? Oh? 783 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 4: Just show this guy. Yeah, I mean the season is over. 784 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 4: We're talking about ping pong balls and agent the band, 785 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 4: said Darren Peterson. He's saying, I hate Lebron James, I 786 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 4: hate Luke, I hate everything about purple and gold. 787 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 2: Oh. 788 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 4: It was a glorious side. So that became like, aren't 789 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 4: man shout out to him? 790 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 3: Man, he was passionate. 791 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 4: I need to meet this And so you get him 792 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 4: yelling about I hate the Lakers, and you got some 793 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 4: kid behind us who's trolling him, saying, you know the 794 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 4: Pacers thing. 795 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: Be the middle man. 796 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, break up, break up fight potentially, that's what we thought. 797 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 7: Yeah. 798 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 3: He also last thing gonna say. 799 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 4: The kid we were also talking about he wanted Luca 800 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 4: to score sixty and Luke at forty three. I was like, 801 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 4: you're not too far off, and I was like, well, 802 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 4: I was like, gott to leave him in like Bams 803 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 4: and go get eighty three and he's like, BAM's a 804 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 4: foul merchant. 805 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, I was like, this generation might 806 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 3: be cooked. 807 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 4: This eleven year old ist chronic was a foul merchant. 808 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 4: You know, the Lakers are the Pacers are frauds. 809 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: I was, boy, probably a p one, Caleb, Yeah, it 810 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: might be. 811 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 3: It was was cool. So if you're hear that man 812 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 3: shout out to you. 813 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 5: Aren't they heat playing the Pacers coming up? 814 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 7: Yeah? 815 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 1: The Yeah, the Pacers. Uh, here's what they have left. Obviously, 816 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: the Clippers at home on Friday and then they play 817 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: Miami on Sunday. 818 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 5: Look at that little three game homestayd Lebron, Luca, Benedic, 819 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 5: Matheren and company with the Clippers and then Bam the 820 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 5: scoring champ. 821 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 822 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 3: There's no way. I mean, the Pacers are not the Wizards. 823 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 5: What's Bam been doing? Has he eclipsed thirty points in 824 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 5: a game eighty three night? 825 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 7: So the Wizards? 826 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 4: Baby, if you get mad anybody, it's the Wizards. But 827 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 4: you know, I just had to get that off my chest. Caleb, 828 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 4: Thanks for being with me. 829 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 1: It was a good story. 830 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 3: It's awesome. 831 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 5: Caleb, Do you have that Bendic mathern audio from last night? 832 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 2: I do. 833 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,240 Speaker 5: This was Mathering again missed four games of the toe injury, 834 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 5: did play last night, played quite well twenty three points, 835 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 5: six assists off the bench. Uh and his return to 836 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 5: Indiana coming up Friday night. This was Benedict Mather Indiana 837 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 5: or he. 838 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: Smiled at me because I have to. 839 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 2: I don't want to ask you about it, but I 840 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 2: have to. 841 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 5: What is the reception that you are expecting from fans 842 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 5: and kind of just what the emotions of being back 843 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 5: there for the first. 844 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 7: Time since the trade. 845 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 6: You know, Inanna breathes basketball. You know, I think everybody 846 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 6: knows that, and I already know what to expect. Obviously, 847 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 6: the fans will be there, and you know the fans 848 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 6: you love me and I love the fans over there. 849 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 6: You know they mean everything to me. Well they meant. 850 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 6: I'm sorry a little bit still do. 851 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 9: But there's gonna be. 852 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 7: A lot of love. And at the end of the day. 853 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 6: Like Indiana drafted me, you know it's still my second home. 854 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: To his day, you should love Indiana. It was good 855 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: to him. Man meant we changed it. 856 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 5: I love that. 857 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 4: I was like, boy, there's always an age of Bendic 858 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 4: mathered and as the president of the Benedict Mathern Fan Club, 859 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 4: you can't get away with not saying anything here. 860 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: Kevin always in the edge. 861 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 5: I love that. Yeah, when I heard that, I was like, 862 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 5: I love that he corrects it. 863 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 3: He's crazy. 864 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 7: I love it. 865 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 5: I do think it will be a much different reaction 866 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 5: than it was from Myles Turner, and obviously one of 867 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 5: trade ones are signing like I understand there's that aspect 868 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 5: to it, but I do think Pacers fans will have 869 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 5: a very nice reaction to bendiccmatherin after whatever, some sort 870 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 5: of tribute it. Obviously Isaiah Jackson, who also had a 871 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 5: nice game last night, starting to play a little bit 872 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 5: more and better for the Clippers as well, So I 873 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 5: do think he will feel that now as soon as 874 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 5: that ball's tipped, the edge will be there. And if 875 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 5: anybody watched the first game between these two teams, boy 876 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 5: Matherin Cook to use the kid who sat behind you, 877 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 5: guys term, I don't know if he dropped Cook, but 878 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 5: I'll try to act hip and drop that. But I 879 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 5: thought when Aaron Nesmith or Andrew Nemhard or even Pascal 880 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 5: Siakam when they got a chance to guard Ben dcmatherin, 881 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 5: they had some urgency that I don't think we've maybe 882 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 5: seen every single night. So I just think in general 883 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 5: he will ratchet up the intensity level, frankly for both 884 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 5: himself and certainly for the Pacers. So again tomorrow night. 885 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 5: I get that the Pacers are a million games out 886 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 5: of it, and at this point people mostly want them 887 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 5: to lose, but we'll get a little bit of a 888 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 5: higher sense of urgency to steal the car Yar s 889 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 5: Gordon phrase here inside a gamebridge Field House tomorrow night, 890 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 5: which would you rather. 891 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 4: See the two teams fully play each other or Ben 892 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 4: inticcmather Andrew Nemhart one on one. 893 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 5: One on one. I literally found myself whenever that game 894 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 5: was a few weeks ago, James totally yelling at the 895 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 5: TV when Matherin would pass. I'd be like, stop passing, 896 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 5: Like I don't. It's not what you do, right, You're 897 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 5: not trying to grow your own games. Rick Carlow and 898 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 5: you on the back of the plane going over you know, hey, 899 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 5: these are steps you need to take as a player. 900 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 5: No iso ball and let's go. Let's get a little 901 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 5: bit chippy instead, he just pretty much owned the Pacers 902 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 5: and there wasn't really much of a back and forth 903 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 5: with that. So I assume, you know, given those comments, 904 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,439 Speaker 5: that he's probably circled this one quite a lot. 905 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 7: Yeah. 906 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: That was a one thirty to one oh seven loss 907 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles the last time the Pacers played there. 908 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: I was looking at the the entirety of the season 909 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: this morning. This is a team that started off again 910 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: one one probably what two and a half orders away 911 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: from potentially an NBA championship last year in June. Right, 912 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: they started off two in sixteen. That was followed later 913 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: in the season by a thirteen game losing streak and 914 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: followed most recently by a sixteen game losing streak. It's 915 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: almost even hard to say that this is the same. Obviously, 916 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: the players been in and out of liab hurt, we 917 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: get it all, but just the franchise itself from in 918 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: just months, going from the precipice of an NBA championship 919 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: to hey, they might have the worst record in the 920 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: NBA before it's all said and done this year. 921 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, Jeff, if you go back to the season opener, 922 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 4: it took okay, see double overtime and fifty five points 923 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 4: from SGA to beat the Pacers without Halliburton, And at 924 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 4: that point in time, I was thinking, oh boy, like 925 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 4: this team might be all right, you know, not all 926 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 4: right to the point where they'll contend without Halliburton, but 927 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 4: I thought, okay, playoff team. But things have changed quite 928 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 4: a bit, a lot of that due to injury, and 929 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 4: you're hoping at this point that you'll get rewarded for 930 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 4: the basketball. 931 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 3: It's kind of messing with you over the last few months. 932 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 5: I don't know when we'll chat with Ronald nored but 933 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,919 Speaker 5: a question I do have for him, And I don't 934 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 5: know this might be a question for every college basketball 935 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 5: coach in today's day and age, but I think especially 936 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 5: it is for Ronald Nored at Butler. How much of 937 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:23,919 Speaker 5: his job does he view the need to help raise 938 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 5: money for his program? You know, we used to kind 939 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 5: of say, ah, you got to go out there and 940 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 5: you know, what's his x's and o's. You know, is 941 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 5: he a leader of men? 942 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 7: You know? 943 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 5: Does he have connections around the state of Indiana to 944 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 5: the high school coaches? 945 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 7: Right? 946 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 5: Like those are kind of like the prerequisites or like that. 947 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 5: You know, that's what you would like dissect in a coach, 948 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 5: and now could you make the statement that the biggest 949 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 5: thing that you need to do as a college astle 950 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 5: head coach, particularly one that's not at one of the 951 00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 5: Hey we have poodles of money waiting for you, is 952 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 5: the first step in that, like, hey man, can you 953 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 5: speak well and bring energy and draw a room of 954 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 5: major boosters and get their back pocket to you know, 955 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 5: turn over to our hand. Is that a question or 956 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 5: is that not? 957 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 3: It's definitely cool. 958 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: It has to be a question in today's world. It's 959 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: part of that's part of your job, now, isn't it. 960 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 5: How woud you rank it? Would you rank exces and 961 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 5: o's above it? Would you rank connections to high school 962 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 5: coaches above it? Would you rank leader of men above it? 963 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 5: Obviously at some point you do have to coach the 964 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 5: basketball team. Don't want to ignore that, But you also 965 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 5: need to make sure you've got Kentucky Derby Thoroughbreds if 966 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 5: you will. 967 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I think nil money and the 968 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 1: ability to recruit and raise that money are probably as 969 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: important as anything. Right now, Well, you know, have all 970 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 1: the access knows you want, but if you don't have 971 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: the jimmies and the Joe's you're not gonna win. 972 00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, you access to rank them. I might put the 973 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 4: money at the top. But also I'm shallow, so I 974 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 4: don't know if to run the right person to answer that? 975 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 2: What was it the great run? 976 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: Ireland said, the answer to every question is money. 977 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 5: Now again, I think if you want to like get 978 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 5: a little bit outside of just purely dollars and cents. 979 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 5: You know one thing I've said pretty much every time 980 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 5: the Matt Painter conversation has been brought up, I would argue, 981 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 5: he is up there at the top, if not at 982 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 5: the top of any college basketball head coach and putting 983 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,879 Speaker 5: the puzzle together. Okay, we have Zach Edie, all right, 984 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,360 Speaker 5: how does the puzzle need to look around him? Okay, 985 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 5: we have Carson Edwards? How does the puzzle need to 986 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 5: look around him? Braden Smith? 987 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 1: Like all of that? 988 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 5: You know that to me is so much of it, 989 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 5: And of course that inevitably involves some financial thoughts. You know, 990 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 5: if I'm not mistaken, I want to say this time 991 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 5: last year, Asperdue was getting ready to play in the 992 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 5: Sweet sixteen against Houston. Part of Matt Painter's job was 993 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 5: recruiting Oscar cluff out of the portal to be a 994 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 5: part of produced puzzle this year. You know, that's just 995 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 5: the nature of Okay, Well, look at Purdue last season. 996 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 5: What was a question mark with Perdue last season? It 997 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,399 Speaker 5: was front court, it was you know, will Berg isn't 998 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 5: working out or you know, whoever you want to throw 999 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 5: in there, and so all of a sudden you need 1000 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 5: to go out and find a quality big And Purdue 1001 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 5: doesn't dip their toes in the portal a whole lot, 1002 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 5: but they did with Kloff and I think by all 1003 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 5: accounts it's worked out wonderfully. So you know, I do 1004 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 5: think Nora Ed would be a guy that, you know, 1005 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,280 Speaker 5: if whatever you're on the fence about donating to a program. 1006 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 5: I do think he's got the personality, the persona, the 1007 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 5: energy to be someone that you would want to walk 1008 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 5: out of a room and say, man, I like that guy. 1009 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 5: I like that guy leading a program. I want to 1010 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 5: follow him. I want to see what he can do 1011 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 5: at Butler. Again, it's not the end all be all. 1012 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 5: It's not me. It doesn't mean that all of a 1013 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 5: sudden Butler's gonna win at an absurd level. But I 1014 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 5: understand in this day and age of college athletics, that 1015 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 5: energy level being one that is really important for your 1016 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 5: program to have, because I just don't I think the 1017 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 5: day and age of sitting on your you know what 1018 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 5: and telling everybody else to get it done for you, 1019 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 5: and you know, just expecting the money to be there. 1020 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 5: I think that's very wishful thinking. 1021 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 1: It's the Fan Morning Show. We'll be talking to the 1022 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: brand new head coach of Ball State, Chris Kapko. 1023 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 2: Coming up at nine thirty this morning. 1024 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: You want to talk about a guy that he's known 1025 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: for his recruiting prowess, that's the one thing I do 1026 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: know about him. We'll talk to him about that as 1027 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: he's trying to get Ball State back into the NCAA 1028 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: tournament for the first time in a long time. And 1029 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,439 Speaker 1: hopefully we'll talk to Jordan Cornette about all the games 1030 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 1: coming up tonight, specifically the Purdue game as we get 1031 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: started with the Sweet sixteen. 1032 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 2: So busy, busy day. 1033 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: You feel free to send us a text at two three, 1034 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: nine ten seventy And while we're talking about text real quick, 1035 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 1: a reminder of the Fan Invitational twenty twenty six golf 1036 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: outing is coming away, presented by Franciscan Health It'll be 1037 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,839 Speaker 1: on April the thirtieth at Legends Golf Club, same place 1038 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:50,879 Speaker 1: we played last year. 1039 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 2: It's going to be a tremendous day. 1040 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 1: There's going to be all kinds of people that you 1041 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: know from the station, obviously, all the on air people, 1042 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 1: a lot of the people that join us as guests. 1043 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 1: Tucker Barnhardt going to be there. Looks like Drew Storn 1044 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: is going to be there. I know Don Fisher's going 1045 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: to be around, Eddie White, we have some other Matt 1046 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: Taylor is going to be a starter on the first tee. 1047 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 1: All kinds of fun and of course it's all to 1048 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,240 Speaker 1: raise money for Franciscan Health and they will be offering 1049 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: free cancer screenings courtesy of the Franciscan Health Cancer Center. 1050 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 1: You can bid on one of a kind experiences sports 1051 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 1: Memorabilian more at the Silent Auction and right now text 1052 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: us three one seven, two seventy test text us and 1053 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,280 Speaker 1: all you do, all you have to do right now 1054 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: is use the word the keyword right there to the 1055 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: uh to the golf tournament and that's going to be golf, 1056 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,879 Speaker 1: just golf, golf. Text that right now and you'll get 1057 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 1: a bounce back message that will allow you to get 1058 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 1: a forty dollars off a foursome to the golf outing. 1059 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 1: So just text golf right now and we'll see what 1060 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 1: happens there. That's coming your way all week long. Right here, 1061 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: ninety three five and one oh seven to five. Hey, 1062 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,919 Speaker 1: very quickly type the word fairway. There was a change 1063 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: last night I was not aware of until now, So 1064 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: it's it's fairway is the keyword today, not golf. Golf 1065 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 1: would have been the word last night, but fairway this morning. James, 1066 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 1: you want to get the forty dollars off for some 1067 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: fairway at two three, nine, ten seventy. 1068 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,399 Speaker 3: So you want to explain that a little bit further, 1069 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 3: so you you text that in. 1070 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 2: You just text it in. 1071 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: You type the word fairway and they'll send you a 1072 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 1: bounce back message where you can get your discount. 1073 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 4: All right, Well, if you want to see us at 1074 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 4: the fan golf outing and get a discount, make sure 1075 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 4: you do that. 1076 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, So we're looking forward to that and that'll be 1077 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: again April the thirtieth, and we're all going to be there. 1078 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 1: It's going to be outstanding and it'll be a lot 1079 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,240 Speaker 1: of fun. In the meantime, well, I'll be watching TV tonight, 1080 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 1: I know, unless you want to fly out there to 1081 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 1: San Jose, Caleb, It'll be sweet sixteen tonight, seven to 1082 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 1: ten per Due taking on the eleven seed Texas Longhorns. 1083 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: And I like to remind people that don't worry about 1084 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 1: seeds at this point in time. If somebody's made it 1085 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 1: through the first four and a couple of tournament games, 1086 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 1: they're probably feeling pretty good about themselves right now. 1087 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 7: James. 1088 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 4: Yes, And for one, understand, weren't you on the West 1089 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 4: Coast recently? Couldn't you have stayed out there and done 1090 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,800 Speaker 4: a little like you know, for you guys, I appreciate. 1091 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: What I was in the southern California, not northern California. 1092 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 4: You know me all, I have not been to California 1093 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 4: many times. It's very big state. I say, at California, 1094 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 4: I think it's all the states. 1095 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 1: It's a long dry It's closer to go to Chicago 1096 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 1: from here than it is to go from LA to 1097 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 1: San Francisco. 1098 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 3: Makes sense, all right? 1099 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 2: So we got that going on today. 1100 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,399 Speaker 1: But San Jose is where Purdue is playing tonight, and 1101 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 1: they'll try to keep it rolling. And like I said, 1102 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that Matt Painter has made his guys 1103 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 1: aware that forget about Seeds at this point in time, 1104 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: we just got. 1105 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 2: To play a pretty hot basketball team. 1106 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 3: I do want to know again status of CJ. Cox. 1107 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 4: Are you the guy we saw in the first half 1108 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 4: of the last game where you're able to hit some 1109 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,719 Speaker 4: big shots and even beyond that, think he's one of 1110 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 4: their better perimeter defenders? Yea, and without perhaps the mobility 1111 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 4: because of your knee, can you still play a winning 1112 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 4: brand of basketball if you're compromised? 1113 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 3: So I'm very curious to see how he is. 1114 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the open practice yesterday, based off some 1115 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 5: reports I saw from people that were out there at 1116 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,800 Speaker 5: San Jose, they did say he was doing some lateral 1117 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 5: movement and some cutting with that. Now, I'm judging by 1118 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,959 Speaker 5: the few open practices I've been to in my NCAA 1119 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 5: tournament history life, I can't imagine it was full full 1120 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 5: throttle in those open you know minutes. But nonetheless, at 1121 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 5: least he's moving, at least he's on the floor, at 1122 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 5: least he's wearing, you know, a practice jersey. So yeah, 1123 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 5: definitely that will be a big, big item to watch again. 1124 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 5: Jordan Pope, one of Texas's more dynamic guards. He got 1125 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 5: hurt late in their win over Gonzaga with an ankle injury. 1126 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 5: There were some questions for Sean Miller about that yesterday. 1127 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,800 Speaker 5: So you know, a couple of injury related items certainly 1128 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 5: to keep an eye on coming up tonight. 1129 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 4: And just real quick, you know, we talk about this 1130 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 4: Jordan Hope guy. He can play, I mean, Jordan Pope, 1131 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,359 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, he can play. Yeah, he can shoot as well. Yeah, 1132 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,319 Speaker 4: he can shoot it man. So he's somebody who you 1133 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 4: definitely know of on the scouting report because if you 1134 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 4: leave them open, just get it out the net. 1135 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1136 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: And again, I know that the over under is at 1137 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 1: one forty seven and a half right now, but Texas 1138 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,760 Speaker 1: comes in averaging eighty three points a game perdue eighty 1139 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:15,800 Speaker 1: two points a game. 1140 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 2: I know the defense is picked up. Would you be 1141 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 2: shocked if we. 1142 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,840 Speaker 1: Just got an up and down, fast tempo everybody making 1143 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 1: threes game tonight, Kevin. 1144 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,879 Speaker 5: Well, I don't know, I don't know. Texas probably got 1145 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 5: to show me a little bit just from that aspect 1146 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 5: of it. You know, I get this, Hey, Texas has 1147 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 5: won a couple games in tournament, and I understand, you know, 1148 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,360 Speaker 5: their roster is definitely not eleven seed type of Cinderella. 1149 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 5: They also lost five to six entering the tournament. Yeah, 1150 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 5: they also had hit a game winning shot to get 1151 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 5: out of Dayton. I mean, let's not act like, you know, 1152 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 5: this is the whatever seventy six Hoosiers that Purdue is 1153 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 5: looking across from tonight. I totally understand that. You know, 1154 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 5: the line is whatever, six and a half, seven and 1155 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 5: a half. It's not like Vegas is expecting some absolute 1156 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,240 Speaker 5: route here. You know, again, how does Braden Smith react 1157 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 5: to last game? You know, if you look at his 1158 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 5: career a bit oddly, I mean, how many games is 1159 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 5: Brainsmith played one hundred and forty some games? I believe 1160 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,799 Speaker 5: the three highest turnover games of his entire career have 1161 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 5: all occurred in the NCAA tournament. You know, fairly. I 1162 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,319 Speaker 5: think it was fairly Dickinson and then McNeice last year, 1163 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 5: and then of course, you know last week against against Miami. 1164 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,840 Speaker 5: Now you know last year against Miami, or even last 1165 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 5: week or two weeks ago, at this point UCLA, I 1166 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,360 Speaker 5: didn't think he was great great from a turnover standpoint 1167 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 5: in that Big ten tournament game. Then against Michigan the 1168 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,799 Speaker 5: next day he was outstanding. And you know again last 1169 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 5: year against Houston he was really good. 1170 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 4: But you know, I'm just curious, like Kevin, you are correct, 1171 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 4: by the way, all three are in the NCAA tournament 1172 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,400 Speaker 4: eight turnovers, eight turnovers and seven turnovers. 1173 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, so just you and me again. I know mcneese's 1174 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 5: kind of known for their defense, but you would think 1175 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 5: over one hundred and thirty forty games you'd have something 1176 00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,880 Speaker 5: in the regular season that would fall into that. So 1177 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 5: I don't want to get overly psychological here, but you know, 1178 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 5: I think Brains must have been super candid with his 1179 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 5: comments throughout the last couple of weeks. I know we 1180 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,239 Speaker 5: played audio, you know, before Senior Day and explaining you know, 1181 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 5: I get legacy, and I get what I and we 1182 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 5: have accomplished, and I know what is the one thing missing? 1183 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 5: So does any of that on his shoulders at all? 1184 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 5: As Purdue now gets closer and closer where you know 1185 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,920 Speaker 5: I described it to start the show. You know, to me, 1186 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,359 Speaker 5: it's a very nervous energy. If you are a Purdue fan, 1187 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 5: it's great, you obviously want to experience it, but there's 1188 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 5: some nerve wracking moments, and you know, I think it'll 1189 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,520 Speaker 5: be very, very mixed emotions whenever this does come to 1190 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 5: an end, if it ends before. And you know, I 1191 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 5: honestly thought a little bit back to you guys. Remember 1192 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,799 Speaker 5: the summer we chatted with the Westfield head coach Chain something, Yes, 1193 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 5: and you know, he explained, you know, a lot of 1194 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 5: the Branden background. I think he said he probably would 1195 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:57,160 Speaker 5: have ended up at Belmont had Purdue never given that offer. 1196 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 5: And then a few I think he actually said Gonzaga 1197 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 5: of the other high majors out there, did start to 1198 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 5: pursue him after that. But you know, at one point, 1199 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:11,279 Speaker 5: Shane Sumter's asking Chad Buchanan, you know, Ryan Carr Westfield, dads, hey, 1200 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 5: can you help out the recruitment? Ironically now Ryan Carr 1201 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 5: and Bloomington, but you know, can you help me with 1202 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 5: you know, getting this kid to be a little bit 1203 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 5: more front and center. And now here we are and 1204 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 5: he's the most decorated assist player ever in college basketball. 1205 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 2: And as you would guess, the numbers back it up too. 1206 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 1: And this is no shock to anybody, but especially this 1207 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 1: time of year, man, the team that turns the ball 1208 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 1: over more is going to be in a big hole. 1209 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 1: And I know Texas, for example, they averaged over ten 1210 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 1: turnovers a game this year, and they were eight and 1211 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 1: one when turning the ball over less than their opponents. 1212 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 1: So if you can take care of basketball and get 1213 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 1: them to make some mistakes, the season would suggest that 1214 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,359 Speaker 1: that's what you need to do to beat Texas. 1215 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,720 Speaker 4: So now I'm curious to know how many turnovers Purdue 1216 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 4: as everaging. But nevertheless, you make a good point. I 1217 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 4: think in these times of moments, if you give up, 1218 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 4: you know, you coff the ball up, You're always vulnerable too. 1219 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 4: And this is happens every year in March. Man is 1220 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 4: to the guy who gets an open look and sees 1221 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,360 Speaker 4: a couple go through and you're like, you never shoot 1222 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,440 Speaker 4: like that. I mean, it's just inevitable. So you don't 1223 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 4: want to give those opportunities for like the herculean moment 1224 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 4: or something like that to happen. You kind of want to, 1225 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,480 Speaker 4: you know, squeeze them before they get an opportunity. 1226 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 5: I asked you guys before the break, bringing it back 1227 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 5: to Ronald Norid and Butler, to kind of rank where 1228 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 5: you would put this question I have for Ronald nored 1229 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 5: how much do you view your job as raising money? 1230 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,080 Speaker 5: Like in the hierarchy of your job, X and o's 1231 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 5: leader of men connecting to you know, high school, AAU, 1232 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,880 Speaker 5: those types of people. Where is raising money in today's 1233 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:55,320 Speaker 5: day and age? Had a coach here from a Division 1234 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 5: one school in the state listening, thank you very much 1235 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,920 Speaker 5: for listening. Text me during the break. Raising money is 1236 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:07,640 Speaker 5: easily number one for all coaches. Easily. It's just a 1237 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,839 Speaker 5: it's just a new day and age. Totally new day 1238 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,319 Speaker 5: and age. And you know, again if you're kind of waning, Okay, 1239 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,880 Speaker 5: Ronald nora ad first time head coach. He's coaching college 1240 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 5: basketball for what like one year in northern Kentucky. I think, Jeff, 1241 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,920 Speaker 5: when you went through his bio yesterday, like there's a 1242 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,399 Speaker 5: lot of questions from that aspect of it. I think 1243 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 5: one area where you don't question nora d is energy, 1244 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 5: the ability to connect with people. And I think if 1245 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 5: you got him in a room with people that were 1246 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 5: whatever debating whether or not they should be giving money 1247 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:44,399 Speaker 5: to the Butler program, certainly Winston Losses will ultimately get 1248 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 5: the true back pockets to be you know, forty nine 1249 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 5: streets finances. But I think he would have an ability 1250 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,800 Speaker 5: to I don't know if change people's minds. But you know, wow, 1251 00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 5: I want to follow that guy. I want to believe 1252 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,360 Speaker 5: in that. I want to lead that. I want to 1253 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,160 Speaker 5: buy a full season ticket package, you know, those sorts 1254 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,400 Speaker 5: of things. I do think Nora Ed brings an energy 1255 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,840 Speaker 5: level instantly that injects some much needed fuel into that program. 1256 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 4: How much do you think he has to prepare for 1257 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,440 Speaker 4: those types of I don't want to call it like 1258 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 4: elevator pitches or speeches, but it's a different game for 1259 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 4: him too, sure, Like I think he has a trace 1260 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 4: to do it. 1261 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,880 Speaker 5: I think it's a little naturally organic to him. But James, 1262 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,920 Speaker 5: to your point, I do think that's that's that's different. 1263 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 4: I mean, you come from a world where in the 1264 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,759 Speaker 4: NBA you're not worried about what the contracts are and 1265 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,160 Speaker 4: raising money for certain things. The salary cap is what 1266 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,919 Speaker 4: it is, and the owner decides who they want to pay. 1267 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 4: So it's just a different landscape, but one where if 1268 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,359 Speaker 4: you can do it right, you can thrive. But that's 1269 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 4: the question, can you do it right? And can you 1270 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,239 Speaker 4: do it at Butler like you can hang on to 1271 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,880 Speaker 4: your glory days. I know you talked about it here, Jeff, 1272 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 4: and I think A big selling point is that you 1273 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,319 Speaker 4: were the man, one of the men who made this 1274 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,759 Speaker 4: program what it is. But that was yet year, and 1275 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 4: that was a totally different world from the one you're 1276 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:04,239 Speaker 4: living in now. 1277 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 5: I did see yesterday Matt Norlander, who was like a 1278 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 5: super plugged in yeah good dude college basketball writer for 1279 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 5: CBS Sports. He mentioned in his piece that, per a source, 1280 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 5: Butler expects to work with at least nine million in 1281 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:26,799 Speaker 5: revenue sharing and nil funding for this upcoming season. That 1282 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:31,680 Speaker 5: is a very eye poppy number to me, given it's Butler, 1283 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,400 Speaker 5: I would have not guessed that number. And you know, 1284 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 5: I know we've brought up the Michael Shrewsbury Notre Dame thing, 1285 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,960 Speaker 5: like right now, I am so just sad, frankly, as 1286 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,319 Speaker 5: a Notre Dame basketball fan that they seem to care 1287 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,239 Speaker 5: about their men's basketball program as much as I care 1288 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 5: about having a six pack. It's just it's a joke. 1289 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,279 Speaker 5: And I would argue Notre Dame's numbers probably in the 1290 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:59,280 Speaker 5: two ish million, and here Butler reportedly is nine million. 1291 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,720 Speaker 5: I mean, that's healthy place to start. If you're Ronald Nora. 1292 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,640 Speaker 4: You all throw this in there as well. Kevin Sweeney, 1293 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 4: who we had on a few times now when Sports 1294 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,360 Speaker 4: illustrated very good on the college basketball front. He added 1295 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,120 Speaker 4: this yesterday and said that was always going to be 1296 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,600 Speaker 4: an essential element for whoever the next hire was, that 1297 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,200 Speaker 4: Butler was going to get back on track. He also 1298 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 4: added that with that rev share increase, it should position 1299 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 4: it this team, it being Butler more competitively in the 1300 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 4: Big East. 1301 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:30,320 Speaker 8: So again, what does that look like in practice? So 1302 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 8: that I'll kind of change just with this coaching change. 1303 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 8: Now there's nine million in revsha, what do we have before? 1304 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 8: How does that work now? 1305 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 5: Caleb? But I think it's a great great questions, a 1306 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,400 Speaker 5: great point. I think you talked to some college coaches 1307 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:47,680 Speaker 5: right now. They will tell you that part of hiring 1308 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 5: a new coach, the new coach almost demands I'm not 1309 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 5: taking this job unless you can promise me this. And 1310 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 5: again this gets back to our Hubert Davis North Carolina 1311 00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 5: debate where there's some North Carolina donors that's I have 1312 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,760 Speaker 5: seven figures ready, but I'm not giving you that. If 1313 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 5: Hubert Davis's back for a six year or whatever how 1314 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 5: many years he is, you know, you almost put the 1315 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 5: feet to the fire of you know, Bubba Cunningham in 1316 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,360 Speaker 5: North Carolina. So yeah, it's a good question. I mean, 1317 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 5: trust me, when I saw that number, I thought to 1318 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,360 Speaker 5: myself really like, yeah, are we sure here? 1319 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 8: I you know, just in two months, who went from 1320 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 8: Dan Hurley say his money problems to nine million? 1321 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,760 Speaker 5: Like I'm just yeah, yeah, and you know a lot 1322 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 5: of it is well. 1323 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 3: Caleb heard they were in debt and he was like, 1324 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:34,600 Speaker 3: you know what. 1325 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,520 Speaker 5: And you know, maybe it's a question for yeah, Grant Linducker, 1326 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,560 Speaker 5: you know, Butler A d whenever you know, he pops 1327 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,840 Speaker 5: up here on one of these shows. You know, I 1328 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 5: know him and John had a conversation a couple of 1329 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 5: weeks ago and he was pretty honest about it. And 1330 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 5: you know, hopefully we can have Norah had on very 1331 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 5: similar to our that amount of conversations. But yeah, I'm 1332 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,360 Speaker 5: I'm totally with you on that. 1333 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,320 Speaker 1: We had an anonymous text or say, if I'm him, 1334 00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,520 Speaker 1: first thing I'm doing is hitting up Gordon Hayward for 1335 00:58:58,600 --> 00:58:59,680 Speaker 1: a massive donation. 1336 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's go. 1337 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,880 Speaker 5: Look is Hayward like the GM over there or something? 1338 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:06,520 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1339 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:07,640 Speaker 3: Is there rules against that? 1340 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:07,800 Speaker 8: Ye? 1341 00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 5: Can does that even work? 1342 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 8: No? 1343 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,640 Speaker 4: I'm serious, because maybe missus Hayward can do no that's 1344 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,960 Speaker 4: a legitimate question because I read a piece about Utah 1345 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 4: State and how they're head coach after they made it 1346 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,040 Speaker 4: to round thirty two, Like he had talked about how 1347 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:21,440 Speaker 4: you gave like one hundred three thousand dollars of his 1348 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 4: own money to their program. So I'm serious, Like, is 1349 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:25,520 Speaker 4: that even a thing? 1350 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:30,520 Speaker 5: I would assume Gordon Hayward's allowed to donate however much 1351 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,160 Speaker 5: he wants to do, right, I would think so. 1352 00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:34,880 Speaker 4: I mean every time I think that there are rules 1353 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,840 Speaker 4: in the NCAA and reminded that they're probably not. 1354 00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 1: Well, even when there are rules, there are a lot 1355 00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 1: of coaches out there that are like. 1356 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,720 Speaker 2: Is it really a rule? Let's see if they want 1357 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:44,800 Speaker 2: to prosecute us for that. 1358 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,959 Speaker 8: He In the NBA you have Kawhi Leonard salary cap 1359 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 8: circumvention that's being investigated for like six months now. But 1360 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,160 Speaker 8: in college sports, no, you're not. You're your GM can 1361 00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,760 Speaker 8: can pay whoever. I mean, that's just where we're at. 1362 00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 4: You know, that is a crazy perspective to put on this. 1363 01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:03,040 Speaker 4: I forgot all about that. 1364 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 3: Kawhi. 1365 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, well that's I don't know if they're going to 1366 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,240 Speaker 8: bring the hammer down on Kawhi and the clippers, but 1367 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:08,720 Speaker 8: they should. 1368 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,440 Speaker 1: Uh, we will keep our we will keep holding our 1369 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:14,600 Speaker 1: breaths and wait for that one. 1370 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:15,920 Speaker 2: Okay, let me see that. 1371 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 3: I want to be living. 1372 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 2: What do you think happens? First? 1373 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 1: They address quote unquote the tanking problem or Kawhi tanking. 1374 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:27,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, well we could probably get into that. Not necessarily 1375 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,200 Speaker 4: today or tomorrow, but that is a topic we can 1376 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,840 Speaker 4: certainly get into because it sounds like Adam Silver is 1377 01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 4: willing to or wants to make some wholesale changes to 1378 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,080 Speaker 4: how that whole thing works. He did not sounds like 1379 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,240 Speaker 4: somebody recently who is going to just stick with the 1380 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 4: status quo of how things have gone. 1381 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,520 Speaker 5: I haven't really been falling, and I saw Silver had 1382 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:47,160 Speaker 5: some comments lately. Are we getting Vegas in Seattle soon? 1383 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,280 Speaker 5: Or is this like expansions not happening for several years. 1384 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,600 Speaker 1: They have moved it forward one big step. 1385 01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,680 Speaker 4: I think it's with the idea of trying to get 1386 01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,800 Speaker 4: the teams up and running. I want to see maybe 1387 01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,040 Speaker 4: like twenty twenty eight, twenty nine, Okay, something like that. 1388 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 3: So it'll be a few years. 1389 01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 4: But yeah, that is big, big news in the NBA 1390 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,880 Speaker 4: that they're moving closer to two more expansion teams and 1391 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:08,520 Speaker 4: a team returning to Seattle. 1392 01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:10,960 Speaker 1: All right, coming up in a minute, we'll talk to 1393 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 1: Jordan Cornette about the all things college basketball. Ask him 1394 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,200 Speaker 1: as a former college basketball athlete now a commentator, his 1395 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,160 Speaker 1: thoughts on the things we're just talking about. And also, 1396 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,760 Speaker 1: Purdue's playing a little game against Texas tonight. More on 1397 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,560 Speaker 1: that right now. It's Sweet sixteen Purdue Texas tonight, seven 1398 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:29,800 Speaker 1: ten pm CBS. Braiden Smith goes in, averaging fourteen points, 1399 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 1: nine assists game, Trey copp and Ren fourteen points, eight 1400 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,320 Speaker 1: rebounds a game, Fletcher Lawyer fourteen points a game. You 1401 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:37,920 Speaker 1: get the consistency there, James. 1402 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,920 Speaker 4: Everybody contributes, absolutely, but you need Brad Smith to be 1403 01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,440 Speaker 4: the Braden Smith that is the All American, not the 1404 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,880 Speaker 4: eight turnover guy we saw the previous game. Not a 1405 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,040 Speaker 4: side a braid at all. Great player, but we expect 1406 01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:49,560 Speaker 4: great players. 1407 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:50,240 Speaker 3: Two bounce back. 1408 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,040 Speaker 1: All right, and Texas, of course, has won three games 1409 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,160 Speaker 1: in a row after losing five of their last six. 1410 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,240 Speaker 1: Purdue has won six games in a row after running 1411 01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 1: the table in a Big ten tournament, and they will 1412 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 1: be on display tonight. The question is whether or not CJ. 1413 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 1: Cox will play. He appears ready to play with an 1414 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,480 Speaker 1: injured knee that he suffered in the last game. 1415 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:10,919 Speaker 2: Kevin, what do we know so far? 1416 01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,720 Speaker 5: It did some court work yesterday to and produce open 1417 01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,080 Speaker 5: practice out there in San Jose. I don't think there 1418 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,000 Speaker 5: was anything like confirmed confirm, like one thousand percent he 1419 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,640 Speaker 5: will be suiting up. So again, that'll be a storyline 1420 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,479 Speaker 5: to watch. Is what are we eleven and eleven hours away? 1421 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 7: Is that right? 1422 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:29,400 Speaker 1: Uh? Pretty close to that? Yeah, ten hours in the fifty. 1423 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 2: Two minutes, yeah, less than eleven. Yeah, let's keep it going. 1424 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,920 Speaker 1: The countdown is on, so that comes your way tonight. 1425 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,320 Speaker 1: Last night at the field House, the Lakers got off 1426 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 1: to a very quick start. They beat the Pacers one 1427 01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 1: thirty seven to one thirty. I'm blaming Caleb for not 1428 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,520 Speaker 1: getting to his seat soon enough. 1429 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:44,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1430 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:46,760 Speaker 8: Once I got in the seat, the Pacers kind of 1431 01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 8: held even and probably even outscored the Lakers in the 1432 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,240 Speaker 8: time that I actually got to sit down and watch 1433 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 8: the game. 1434 01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 2: But you remember what the score was when you got 1435 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:54,800 Speaker 2: to the seat. 1436 01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 8: I think it was like it was probably three minutes 1437 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,920 Speaker 8: to go, so it was like thirty six to twenty 1438 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:01,560 Speaker 8: something like that. 1439 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,560 Speaker 3: It scored forty five I think in the first quarter. 1440 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,439 Speaker 5: So yeah, my fault Pacer Nation. 1441 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,120 Speaker 1: Look at Donsons scored forty three points. He might have 1442 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,640 Speaker 1: been more responsible for the game than you. He had 1443 01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,680 Speaker 1: scored forty four the first time they played the Pacers. 1444 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 1: This year, Lebron James scored twenty three, Pascal Siakam twenty 1445 01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:23,280 Speaker 1: and eight rebounds, Andrew Nemhart though Kevin fourteen points, nineteen assists. 1446 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,680 Speaker 1: He is picking up his game. He's had very last 1447 01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,960 Speaker 1: two games. His stats look exactly like Tyrese Haliburton down 1448 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:30,840 Speaker 1: the stretch last year. 1449 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, for me, it's a continued reminder of Andrew number. 1450 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,920 Speaker 5: It's a really quality basketball player, no questions asked. But 1451 01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,160 Speaker 5: if you want to say, what is his best position, 1452 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,240 Speaker 5: I do think it's a point guard. 1453 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,600 Speaker 1: WNBA Expansion Draft date has been set. It'll be April 1454 01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,880 Speaker 1: the third. Toronto Tempo and Portland Fire will each get 1455 01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 1: to select players off of other rosters. Teams can protect 1456 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,800 Speaker 1: several players. The Fever will most likely and I say 1457 01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,560 Speaker 1: most likely Caleb because it's not official yet. They haven't 1458 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:04,360 Speaker 1: turned in the official list yet, but Caitlyn Clark, Kelsey Mitchell, 1459 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:08,720 Speaker 1: Aleah Boston, Lexi Hall, Mikayla Timpson. They want to keep 1460 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,760 Speaker 1: those players from being selected now they still have some 1461 01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:13,960 Speaker 1: work to do with like Lexi Hall, she's a restricted 1462 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,920 Speaker 1: free agent. But those are the players that they're probably 1463 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 1: looking to protect at this point in time, and that 1464 01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,280 Speaker 1: means we don't know what's going to happen with Sophie Cunningham. 1465 01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,040 Speaker 1: I would think she would be an attractive option for 1466 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:24,040 Speaker 1: an expansion team. 1467 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,920 Speaker 4: She could be, but breaking news here, Kaitlyn Clark not 1468 01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 4: going anywhere. No, she's not, so beginning a nice raise 1469 01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:32,360 Speaker 4: to play for the Fever in twenty twenty sEH. 1470 01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,320 Speaker 5: I don't know if Kelly Crosscoff has children, but I 1471 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,040 Speaker 5: think there was a better chance of her children being exposed. 1472 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:40,520 Speaker 1: In Sorry kids, family meeting. Sorry kids, I hope you 1473 01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:41,800 Speaker 1: understand right. 1474 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 3: They honest, you should. 1475 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,160 Speaker 4: I told you if I ever had more than two kids, 1476 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:45,800 Speaker 4: I'm ranking them. 1477 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,120 Speaker 5: So how does that work? Sophie Cunnyam is a free agent, right, 1478 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,560 Speaker 5: so yes, you can still protect your free agents. 1479 01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:55,480 Speaker 1: You could, but because also I believe they're gonna work 1480 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,439 Speaker 1: on it, but they've got some business to take care 1481 01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:01,640 Speaker 1: of with Kelsey Mitchell. So the likelihood if they protected 1482 01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,520 Speaker 1: both of them one of them, as they might lose 1483 01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,320 Speaker 1: one of them anyway as an understickted free agent, so you. 1484 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:08,560 Speaker 5: Can't be losing Kelsey Mitchell. 1485 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:09,040 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1486 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,800 Speaker 1: So those are how things are going right there as 1487 01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,720 Speaker 1: far as college basketball is concerned. Yesterday we broke the 1488 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,400 Speaker 1: news here, well we didn't break the news, but we 1489 01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:20,840 Speaker 1: announced it. Butler hired Ronald nored to lead their basketball program, 1490 01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,680 Speaker 1: replacing Thad Mata. And the question I had asked the 1491 01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,080 Speaker 1: last hour, I'll ask it again. I'm not saying it's 1492 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,480 Speaker 1: not the right hire, and there's a lot of good 1493 01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:31,760 Speaker 1: things about Ronald Norrid, but did they really look all 1494 01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,520 Speaker 1: that hard outside the Butler family to really see what's 1495 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:34,960 Speaker 1: out there? 1496 01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:36,720 Speaker 2: Doesn't feel like it. 1497 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean if you look at I think at 1498 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,000 Speaker 5: Keeman Gillspie from The Star had some reports and other candidates, 1499 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:46,280 Speaker 5: and you know, he pretty much mentioned the what Michael Shrewsbury, 1500 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,560 Speaker 5: John Gross's, Chris Holtman's of the world, Travis Seale doesn't 1501 01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,680 Speaker 5: really sound like was much of a thought. So yeah, 1502 01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:56,200 Speaker 5: Butler and the family seemed to be the other candidates there. 1503 01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,320 Speaker 1: All right, And we will talk to Chris Capko, the 1504 01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 1: brand new head coach of ball State coming up at 1505 01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,240 Speaker 1: nine thirty this morning, and they get his thoughts on 1506 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,400 Speaker 1: taking over a little maction for him. See how that goes. 1507 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:09,640 Speaker 1: What else can we tell you about? Major League Baseball? 1508 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,600 Speaker 1: Had one single game on Opening Day? Do we like 1509 01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,919 Speaker 1: one single game, Caleb? On Opening Day? 1510 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:15,680 Speaker 3: Now? 1511 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:19,320 Speaker 8: Opening Day should be all games starting at one o'clock 1512 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,720 Speaker 8: and four o'clock, and they should all be happening on 1513 01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:23,280 Speaker 8: one day. 1514 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:24,840 Speaker 5: And there's baseball everywhere. 1515 01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:26,800 Speaker 8: And so I didn't I didn't watch any of the 1516 01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,480 Speaker 8: Netflix special last night. 1517 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and unless the Reds are playing the Yankees or 1518 01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,840 Speaker 1: it's the postseason, I don't want the Yankees on my television. 1519 01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:36,439 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be honest. 1520 01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,160 Speaker 8: It's gonna be a tough sell to a lot of 1521 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,440 Speaker 8: America because they do bring in the eyeballs. 1522 01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,960 Speaker 1: But anyway, the Yankees did have a nice day. Max 1523 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,360 Speaker 1: Freed six and the third innings of two hit baseball, 1524 01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,400 Speaker 1: and the Yankees shut out the Giants seven to nothing. 1525 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,520 Speaker 1: Although Aaron Judge had a rough day James Oh for 1526 01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,960 Speaker 1: five with four strikeouts. Not Aaron Judge like. 1527 01:06:55,480 --> 01:07:01,760 Speaker 4: Say that World Baseball Classic Aaron Judge postseason Aaron Judge, Yeah, Yeah, 1528 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:02,720 Speaker 4: it's been it's. 1529 01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:03,960 Speaker 2: Been a long time. 1530 01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,240 Speaker 1: If you go back to the postseason last year in 1531 01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,760 Speaker 1: the World Baseball Classic and now the opening day, Aaron's 1532 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,080 Speaker 1: in a little bit of a slump, isn't he. 1533 01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,400 Speaker 2: He's gonna have to find something to bust that slump. 1534 01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:19,040 Speaker 1: Also, Indians will open their season tomorrow night at home 1535 01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:19,840 Speaker 1: against Saint Paul. 1536 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:23,440 Speaker 2: That one starts at six point thirty five. Anything else 1537 01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,160 Speaker 2: you guys want to throw in this morning before we 1538 01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:25,640 Speaker 2: head on. 1539 01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, n T Final four set. They'll be playing inside 1540 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:30,960 Speaker 5: a Hinkle coming up a week from tonight, and then 1541 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,720 Speaker 5: the championship game will be inside a Gambridge Fieldhouse at 1542 01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,680 Speaker 5: a Sunday afternoon. So next Sunday afternoon you'll have D 1543 01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:40,160 Speaker 5: two D three National champions Ground and the n IT 1544 01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,160 Speaker 5: it'll be Auburn. What was that? Were they the first 1545 01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,720 Speaker 5: out Stephen Pearls Auburn Tigers. I mean, there's so much 1546 01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:48,640 Speaker 5: debate about, you know, Bruce Pearl and all that. I'm 1547 01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:49,640 Speaker 5: trying to think of how they. 1548 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:51,600 Speaker 1: They were right there, one of the two first ranked. 1549 01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:52,280 Speaker 5: I remember Indiana. 1550 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,920 Speaker 1: I think it was the fourth out Auburn, Illinois State. 1551 01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,080 Speaker 5: That is one side of a semi final and the 1552 01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,800 Speaker 5: New Mexico and Tulsa the others. So again, that's at 1553 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,720 Speaker 5: Hinkle coming up a week from tonight. 1554 01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,640 Speaker 1: All right, coming up at a moment, we'll have the 1555 01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:09,080 Speaker 1: opportunity to talk to Jordan Cornett. He covers college basketball, 1556 01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,000 Speaker 1: of course, played for your. 1557 01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:12,680 Speaker 2: Team at one point in time. Oh man. 1558 01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,360 Speaker 5: The shaved heads at the rcaaight home in the two 1559 01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,639 Speaker 5: thousand and three NCAA Tournament, and Jordan Cornette's defensive efforts 1560 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,000 Speaker 5: off the bench to beat Bruce Pearl and the fighting. 1561 01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,920 Speaker 5: Look at this, it's full circle beating u W Milwaukee. 1562 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:25,760 Speaker 5: It's one of the more underrated moments in Notre Dame 1563 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:29,439 Speaker 5: basketball history. And then they beat Illinois. Sorry, James Boyd. 1564 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,519 Speaker 5: They beat Illinois in the round of thirty two and 1565 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,519 Speaker 5: made it to the Sweet sixteen. Ryan Bowen and I 1566 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,400 Speaker 5: going nuts from the nosebleeds in the RCAM. 1567 01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,519 Speaker 1: It's like it happened yesterday for him, Jase. 1568 01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:42,120 Speaker 5: I can hear the ill I n I chance ringing 1569 01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,840 Speaker 5: in my ears. But yet in the final few minutes 1570 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,879 Speaker 5: of that game, crickets. 1571 01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:49,640 Speaker 3: All worries, come, some furniture moving up in here, ring 1572 01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:50,639 Speaker 3: a commercial break. 1573 01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:54,960 Speaker 5: Come on, coach Chris Thomas, shaved head, torn Francis, Matt Carroll, 1574 01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,080 Speaker 5: Danny Miller lost Arizona in the Sweet sixteen, but that 1575 01:08:58,120 --> 01:08:58,759 Speaker 5: was a fun ride. 1576 01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:00,519 Speaker 1: We might just get out of the way. Let Kevin 1577 01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,160 Speaker 1: and Jordan's just chop it up for a few minutes away. 1578 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:04,599 Speaker 1: The think James would not be bad. 1579 01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:04,840 Speaker 9: All right. 1580 01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,160 Speaker 5: Jordan Cornett's perfect gest. He was on the Westwood one 1581 01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:11,280 Speaker 5: call for Purdue and Miami. Obviously he's got ties to 1582 01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,840 Speaker 5: Hencklefield House with his brother. And you know, if I can, 1583 01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:16,880 Speaker 5: if I can I ask him one noted en basketball question, 1584 01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:17,639 Speaker 5: you guys, let me. 1585 01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,720 Speaker 1: Hear you man, Yes, I can wait till the end, 1586 01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,599 Speaker 1: but can you let me do one? That's okay? 1587 01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:22,120 Speaker 7: Thanks? 1588 01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:27,600 Speaker 1: All right, Kevin will anxiously await the upcoming conversation with 1589 01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:30,000 Speaker 1: Jordan Cornett. It's a brief time out here at ninety 1590 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:34,360 Speaker 1: three five and one seven five the fan, Happy Sweet 1591 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,320 Speaker 1: sixteen day Here at ninety three five and one O 1592 01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:38,360 Speaker 1: seven to five the fan Purdue gets going seven to 1593 01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:42,000 Speaker 1: ten tonight in San Jose against the Texas Longhorns, and 1594 01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,080 Speaker 1: we bring in our next guest, happy to talk to him, 1595 01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:48,240 Speaker 1: looking forward to Kevin's really looking forward to it, of course. 1596 01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,519 Speaker 2: Jordan Cornett former Notre Dame player. 1597 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,680 Speaker 1: Now you can hear him see him everywhere on your 1598 01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,240 Speaker 1: TV and radio, most recently with Westwood One covering the 1599 01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,519 Speaker 1: NCAA tournament, and he is on the pay Listenkers Hotline 1600 01:09:58,560 --> 01:09:59,280 Speaker 1: as we speak. 1601 01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:00,840 Speaker 2: Good morning and Cornett, how you. 1602 01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,519 Speaker 7: Doing, guys. 1603 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,839 Speaker 11: It's a great day to be a live more college 1604 01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:08,000 Speaker 11: basketball all the docket as we get ready to start 1605 01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,559 Speaker 11: to send some teams to a Final four. I'm doing great. 1606 01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:12,600 Speaker 11: It's great to be on with you, guys. 1607 01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,639 Speaker 1: Well, we are very happy to have you on here. 1608 01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:17,400 Speaker 1: And we'll just start off with a kind of a 1609 01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,720 Speaker 1: ten thousand foot look at Purdue right now. They've won 1610 01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:21,599 Speaker 1: six games in a row. They look a lot more 1611 01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,200 Speaker 1: like the team that was the preseason number one. Really 1612 01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:27,360 Speaker 1: struggled in February. What do you think has been the 1613 01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,920 Speaker 1: big turnaround from in the last four weeks for this team. 1614 01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,080 Speaker 11: It's been very clear, Fellas, it's been defense. Their commitment 1615 01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:38,040 Speaker 11: to defending on that side of the floor. It's meant 1616 01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,680 Speaker 11: everything to a group that was in a free fall. Truthfully, 1617 01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,559 Speaker 11: towards the end of the regular season, got to Chicago 1618 01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,120 Speaker 11: for the Big Ten Tournament and really discovered that hey, 1619 01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:50,479 Speaker 11: if we lock in rotationally defensively, protect the rim. Takeaway 1620 01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:54,600 Speaker 11: transition from the opposition. We can go places, especially with 1621 01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,680 Speaker 11: the core group that they have returning. I mean this 1622 01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:00,200 Speaker 11: was the preseason number one in all of college basketball. 1623 01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,200 Speaker 11: Well there was a reason for that. People looked at 1624 01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,040 Speaker 11: the personnel on the roster and said this team has 1625 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:08,519 Speaker 11: the best chance to win a national championship. That's what 1626 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:12,000 Speaker 11: the experts felt starting the season. And so now that 1627 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,759 Speaker 11: they've gotten back to guarding with the high level commitment there, 1628 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:18,840 Speaker 11: that personnel remains unchanged. They've gotten the personnel now with 1629 01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:22,360 Speaker 11: how they're defending to go potentially win a national championship. 1630 01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:25,680 Speaker 11: Braden Smith was knocked good last time out. He's got 1631 01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:27,680 Speaker 11: to be way better with the basketball. He's got to 1632 01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:29,800 Speaker 11: be more decisive, he has to be more impactful. But 1633 01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,719 Speaker 11: Fletcher Lawyers shooting the basketball at a high rate right now. 1634 01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:36,320 Speaker 11: Trey coffin Rand knows exactly who he is. Oscar Cluff 1635 01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:40,400 Speaker 11: has been written protecting CJ. Cox played great for this group, 1636 01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:42,040 Speaker 11: knocking down shots last time out. 1637 01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,519 Speaker 7: There a connected group, Jordan. 1638 01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,880 Speaker 4: I know you mentioned Trey Kaufman Wren there, and I 1639 01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,240 Speaker 4: can't sit up here and act like he's some unknown 1640 01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,439 Speaker 4: player around the country, but he took a step backprop 1641 01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:55,320 Speaker 4: from a production standpoint because of the arrival of Oscar Cluff. 1642 01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,800 Speaker 4: What have you seen from him over the last few games, 1643 01:11:57,920 --> 01:11:59,799 Speaker 4: especially come tournament time. 1644 01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,720 Speaker 11: I've seen a team commitment to establishing him on a 1645 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,639 Speaker 11: low block and allowing him to score in isolation. 1646 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,280 Speaker 7: Guys, this has been a look. 1647 01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,680 Speaker 11: Oscar Cluff provides a great deal. He's a bully on 1648 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:14,559 Speaker 11: the backboard. He's a lumberjack with old man's strength that 1649 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,320 Speaker 11: protects the rim. He runs the floor. Well, he's a 1650 01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,719 Speaker 11: great he's a great energy guy. But he's been producing 1651 01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,639 Speaker 11: offensively down the stretch. But when you need a bucket 1652 01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,799 Speaker 11: down low, you go to a poor man's Carl Malone 1653 01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,920 Speaker 11: in the college basketball game in Trey Kaufman rin and 1654 01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,360 Speaker 11: he's been delivering time and time again. I mean, they're 1655 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,720 Speaker 11: blueprint to success, at least in the first weekend which 1656 01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:36,160 Speaker 11: I was able to be there in Saint Louis and 1657 01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,880 Speaker 11: watch was give him the ball on the low block 1658 01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:39,599 Speaker 11: and let him cook. 1659 01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:41,599 Speaker 7: He's also been great in the short role. 1660 01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,559 Speaker 11: As you guys know, you'll never see him shoot a 1661 01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:48,479 Speaker 11: set jump shot. It's always that little one one one 1662 01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,320 Speaker 11: armed floater, offering from around the free throw, lining in, 1663 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,080 Speaker 11: but he's mastered it. He's been great in the pick 1664 01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:55,960 Speaker 11: and roll. He's been great catching on a low block. 1665 01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,360 Speaker 11: He's been good on the backboard. When you look at him, 1666 01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:01,680 Speaker 11: when you look Lawyer, when you look at Smith, it's 1667 01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:04,559 Speaker 11: three guys that understand the finality of it all. 1668 01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,240 Speaker 7: This is it. I mean, who has ever brought. 1669 01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,679 Speaker 11: A team in that is lost to a sixteen seed 1670 01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:12,120 Speaker 11: and has also lost in a. 1671 01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:15,679 Speaker 7: National title game. That's the experience those three guys present. 1672 01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,519 Speaker 5: That's a voice. Jordan Cornett, as he said, Westwood want 1673 01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,560 Speaker 5: he was on the call for purduing Miami over the weekend, 1674 01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,639 Speaker 5: and obviously you see him in a variety of different 1675 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,760 Speaker 5: platforms during the college basketball season. I do want to 1676 01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,599 Speaker 5: go to Butler here for a second. Jordan, we see 1677 01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:34,639 Speaker 5: the higher ye yesterday, talk about it of Ronald Nored. 1678 01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:39,280 Speaker 5: Obviously your family plenty of ties to that Butler program. 1679 01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,400 Speaker 5: What do you make of maybe the state of their 1680 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:44,559 Speaker 5: program within the Big East in this current landscape? And 1681 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,479 Speaker 5: how do you view Ronald Nored injecting some I would argue, 1682 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,840 Speaker 5: much needed fuel into that program. 1683 01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,600 Speaker 11: You know what it is, it's a full facelift that 1684 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,160 Speaker 11: is going on right there with this Butler, this Butler, 1685 01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:03,880 Speaker 11: this Butler program, the book that Mota was everything to. 1686 01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,599 Speaker 11: Butler was a lot to college basketball. Was a class 1687 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,840 Speaker 11: guy with a ridiculous resume that won a ton. But 1688 01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:14,839 Speaker 11: it was clear that this was a stop gap Higher 1689 01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,160 Speaker 11: with that who just has a great love for Butler 1690 01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:20,920 Speaker 11: and was, you know, serving the school and until they 1691 01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,120 Speaker 11: found their future guy that would be there for a 1692 01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:27,080 Speaker 11: long time. That guy's Ronald. Excuse me, guys, That guy's Ronald. 1693 01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:32,360 Speaker 11: Ronald is such a brilliant basketball mind, such a great 1694 01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,040 Speaker 11: guy in terms of connection to team and feel a 1695 01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:38,120 Speaker 11: pulse for his guys. He's ran a group in the 1696 01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,559 Speaker 11: G League. He's been in a high level assistant most 1697 01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:45,240 Speaker 11: recently with the Atlanta Hawks. But he understands the Butler 1698 01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:49,000 Speaker 11: chip and what makes that engine go, what fuels that program, 1699 01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:53,679 Speaker 11: how to recruit what pockets where they can win. This 1700 01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,640 Speaker 11: is a home run Higher and they needed to get 1701 01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:58,920 Speaker 11: it right. And with that has come a renewed sense 1702 01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:02,200 Speaker 11: of commitment financially from the athletic department to put them 1703 01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,600 Speaker 11: in position to compete in the Big East, which is paramount. 1704 01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:07,920 Speaker 11: I mean, you can have the greatest coach. But if 1705 01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,120 Speaker 11: you don't have an athletic department commitment financially, you don't 1706 01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,040 Speaker 11: have a shot. Well, all that's coming together for Butler 1707 01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:18,040 Speaker 11: right now, and I would say by on the Butler 1708 01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:20,880 Speaker 11: Bulldogs early because Ronald Nora is going to get there 1709 01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:21,240 Speaker 11: where they. 1710 01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:21,519 Speaker 7: Need to go. 1711 01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,400 Speaker 5: Jordan one of my fondest memories growing up. I am 1712 01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,280 Speaker 5: an absolute Notre Dame basketball sicko. 1713 01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:29,720 Speaker 7: I love it. 1714 01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,800 Speaker 5: I love it thirteen years old with my brother in 1715 01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:36,920 Speaker 5: the nosebleeds of the RCAA Dome and the shaved heads 1716 01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,720 Speaker 5: and people forget about your contributions off the bench to 1717 01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:42,680 Speaker 5: upset or not upset, to get through Bruce Pearl and 1718 01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,559 Speaker 5: UW Milwaukee and then beat the fighting line. I there 1719 01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,599 Speaker 5: in round two. Just the greatest memories in the RCAA 1720 01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,439 Speaker 5: Dome watching the Irish torn Francis, Chris Thomas, Dan Miller, 1721 01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:52,080 Speaker 5: Matt Carroll, etc. 1722 01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:53,879 Speaker 1: Get it done and go to the Sweet sixteen. 1723 01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,960 Speaker 5: So I set up all of that to say, where 1724 01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:59,320 Speaker 5: are we at right now with the Notre Dame men's 1725 01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,880 Speaker 5: basketball program. I am in a very nervous period as 1726 01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:07,080 Speaker 5: a fan right now. I'm nervous about their survival thrival 1727 01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:09,959 Speaker 5: however you want to put it in this current climate. 1728 01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,040 Speaker 5: I was a big believer in Michael Shrewsbury, but certainly 1729 01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:15,360 Speaker 5: there are a lot of people that would have evidence 1730 01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:18,519 Speaker 5: to point otherwise. With me, right now, how should I 1731 01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,479 Speaker 5: feel about the future of the men's basketball program in 1732 01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:21,000 Speaker 5: South Then. 1733 01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:24,800 Speaker 11: Well, Kevin, let's start with I mean you rattling off 1734 01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:28,080 Speaker 11: all those names you were calling the path through Indianapolis 1735 01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,920 Speaker 11: for our group. I will jump on this show at 1736 01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:32,960 Speaker 11: one point thirty in the morning if you guys need 1737 01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:33,360 Speaker 11: me to it. 1738 01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go, Jordan, come on, let's go on. 1739 01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:39,439 Speaker 7: Man that I'm how you get a guest forever? 1740 01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:43,160 Speaker 5: Didn't you have a now, Craig mem didn't you have 1741 01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:46,000 Speaker 5: a huge defensive play and or block late in that 1742 01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:47,240 Speaker 5: UW Milwaukee game? 1743 01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:49,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, I got. 1744 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:53,080 Speaker 11: I got caught on the the exchange with Tory and Jones. 1745 01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:54,840 Speaker 11: We altered the shot that would have been the game 1746 01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:55,360 Speaker 11: winning way. 1747 01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:57,519 Speaker 5: Oh man, And that thing is so cool to going. 1748 01:16:57,760 --> 01:16:59,400 Speaker 11: And I had, Yeah, I did have a block a 1749 01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,120 Speaker 11: couple of seque which is before that game. 1750 01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:03,519 Speaker 7: But you know who remembers, right, I do? I do? 1751 01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:04,040 Speaker 7: I do? 1752 01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, And my wife's thrilled that I remember that. 1753 01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:08,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, right. 1754 01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,160 Speaker 11: That is it's funny what you can remember, which can't 1755 01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:11,040 Speaker 11: bring back the groceries. 1756 01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:15,679 Speaker 7: But here on Notre Dame. The thing about Notre. 1757 01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,200 Speaker 11: Dame right now, I'm getting a lot of you know, 1758 01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:19,879 Speaker 11: calls and texts from people who care about the program 1759 01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,080 Speaker 11: because there are people that care about things outside of 1760 01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:26,320 Speaker 11: Notre Dame football. I mean, it's a lot of alumni too. Obviously, 1761 01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,960 Speaker 11: it needed it needed to and it needs to burn down. 1762 01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:33,519 Speaker 11: The roster that they currently have was not going to 1763 01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:36,559 Speaker 11: compete for a tournament berth Andy just they weren't going 1764 01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,559 Speaker 11: to be there. So there needed to be a level 1765 01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:43,040 Speaker 11: of embarrassment that came this past year for the athletic 1766 01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,360 Speaker 11: department of Notre Dame to look in the mirror and say, hey, 1767 01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:49,320 Speaker 11: if we don't provide better financial support, this is what 1768 01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:52,880 Speaker 11: it's going to look like and worse every single season 1769 01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:56,519 Speaker 11: moving forward. Can Mike is Shrew's very coach, absolutely guy 1770 01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,120 Speaker 11: want at Penn State. He's been part of the Celtics, 1771 01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,600 Speaker 11: part of produced that. He understands what it is, he 1772 01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,080 Speaker 11: understands the X and o's at a high level. He's 1773 01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:09,200 Speaker 11: still feeling out Notre Dame and understanding the shortcomings the 1774 01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:11,880 Speaker 11: obstacles that come with the job. It's not one of 1775 01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,559 Speaker 11: the sexiest basketball jobs right now because of the lack 1776 01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:18,439 Speaker 11: of institutional support. He's going to start to get more 1777 01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:22,240 Speaker 11: of that. Everyone understands the monster that notorame football is. 1778 01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,880 Speaker 11: I mean, they're going to be chasing around fifty million 1779 01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:29,080 Speaker 11: dollars to feel the national championship contending team. So every 1780 01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:31,960 Speaker 11: dollar's going there. Well, now the athletic department has to 1781 01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:33,880 Speaker 11: figure out how some of that money can go to 1782 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,880 Speaker 11: a budget that's not going to compete in acc basketball 1783 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,679 Speaker 11: or on the national scale. Give it a little bit more, 1784 01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,599 Speaker 11: and now they will because we simply won't have a roster. 1785 01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,680 Speaker 11: There's seven guys in the transfer portal. We won't have 1786 01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:47,679 Speaker 11: a team next year. 1787 01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,679 Speaker 7: Unless they commit to spending money and. 1788 01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,720 Speaker 11: Go grabbing guys. So that number will move considerably. I 1789 01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,639 Speaker 11: know that for fact, being in those conversations. Can't share 1790 01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,200 Speaker 11: what that number is, but it's going to look different. 1791 01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:03,000 Speaker 11: So now it's in upon that staff to go recruit 1792 01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:04,960 Speaker 11: and to go bring in guys, not just high level 1793 01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,840 Speaker 11: incoming freshmen, because it's a man's game now with the 1794 01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:12,040 Speaker 11: transfer portal, go get guys who are rising sophomores, rising 1795 01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:15,719 Speaker 11: juniors and put together a group. I think everybody knows 1796 01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,920 Speaker 11: that this seat is hot for coach Shrewsbury right now, 1797 01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:21,040 Speaker 11: and if the results look like they have these last 1798 01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:24,080 Speaker 11: few years, I'd say, short of a tournament Berth, there's 1799 01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,800 Speaker 11: gonna be some real conversations there. And then coach Michael 1800 01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:30,200 Speaker 11: Shrewsbury knows that, and that is not a knock on 1801 01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:31,320 Speaker 11: his coaching ability. 1802 01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:33,519 Speaker 7: The guy can coach. He just needs more support within 1803 01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:34,240 Speaker 7: the institution. 1804 01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,200 Speaker 1: Who's having more fun than you right now watching college 1805 01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,000 Speaker 1: basketball from courtside? 1806 01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,320 Speaker 11: Oh my gosh, this is the best time of the year. 1807 01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,040 Speaker 11: I think you guys know the past with my brother, 1808 01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:48,640 Speaker 11: the tragic loss of my big brother Joey and twenty sixteen, 1809 01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:51,600 Speaker 11: and one of the coolest moments of my life was 1810 01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,519 Speaker 11: in two thousand and three, Kevin mentioned that Notre Dame 1811 01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,320 Speaker 11: team as a five seed that got to the second 1812 01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:59,480 Speaker 11: weekend when my brother's group at Butler had an improbable 1813 01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,439 Speaker 11: run them else getting to the sweet sixteen that season, 1814 01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:05,400 Speaker 11: and that's where my brother famously coined the phrase we 1815 01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:09,800 Speaker 11: are still here to you know the haters out there. 1816 01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:11,800 Speaker 11: And I think it was Ben Holland who said that 1817 01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,759 Speaker 11: Butler didn't belong in the tournament and a power conference 1818 01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,639 Speaker 11: team should be there, and all they did was topple 1819 01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,320 Speaker 11: two power conference teams to get there. 1820 01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,080 Speaker 7: And he reminded everybody. 1821 01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:21,920 Speaker 11: Because he was the son of a bee, said, we 1822 01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,920 Speaker 11: are still here for all those who didn't think we belonged. 1823 01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:29,120 Speaker 11: And so this tournament provided a forever memory, a phrase 1824 01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:32,720 Speaker 11: that fuels our foundation, the Jewel Cornett Foundation, and our 1825 01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:33,519 Speaker 11: wristbands and and. 1826 01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,880 Speaker 7: Everything we do. We are still here. 1827 01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,760 Speaker 11: Well, the genesis of that was this tournament and me 1828 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:40,840 Speaker 11: and him being in the second weekend and my dad 1829 01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:44,920 Speaker 11: flying to meet my mom in Rochester where my brother played, 1830 01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,000 Speaker 11: and then flying that same day to get out to 1831 01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:50,200 Speaker 11: California to watch me that evening, and the moments that 1832 01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:52,600 Speaker 11: came with that. So I will forever work in this 1833 01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:56,439 Speaker 11: sin CAA tournament because for those days, on those game days, 1834 01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:58,200 Speaker 11: and I could get emotional here on the phone, I 1835 01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:01,200 Speaker 11: feel like my brothers, I'm down the stairs from Heaven 1836 01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:03,200 Speaker 11: to sit there with me to do those games. And 1837 01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:07,280 Speaker 11: oh gosh, guys, the goosebumps it provides. And my wife, 1838 01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:10,519 Speaker 11: because she's not only a superstar on the mic with 1839 01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:12,840 Speaker 11: the first take show out there in New York City. 1840 01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:16,880 Speaker 7: But she understands that. And every year my young kids. 1841 01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:18,840 Speaker 11: Come out with her at whatever side I'm at, and 1842 01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:20,920 Speaker 11: it's a family affair. And this one will be in 1843 01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:23,160 Speaker 11: Chicago for this week and they'll be here with me. 1844 01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,800 Speaker 7: So it's awesome. Guys, I didn't know. 1845 01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:27,920 Speaker 11: You probably didn't expect that loaded of an answer, But 1846 01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,639 Speaker 11: the reality is there's nothing in sports I would rather 1847 01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:32,160 Speaker 11: do than this. 1848 01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:37,360 Speaker 5: Tournament, Jordan, if I could add one thing, first off, 1849 01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:40,160 Speaker 5: I get chills every time Butler plays the pregame intro 1850 01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:42,960 Speaker 5: and your brother pops up on that screen and says 1851 01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:45,800 Speaker 5: all those very words that you just shared with us. 1852 01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:48,639 Speaker 5: But I also had this. I went to Butler basketball 1853 01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,680 Speaker 5: camp growing up, and I will never forget playing in 1854 01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:54,720 Speaker 5: the West Gym and your brother was my coach, and 1855 01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,960 Speaker 5: I was a very mediocre basketball player, and I took 1856 01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:01,360 Speaker 5: one of the softest charge as you've ever seen. It 1857 01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:04,519 Speaker 5: should have been a block one thousand percent. And when 1858 01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,920 Speaker 5: your brother blew his whistle and put his hand behind 1859 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,600 Speaker 5: his head and pointed the other way that it was 1860 01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,400 Speaker 5: a charge and picked me up off the floor and 1861 01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:16,040 Speaker 5: slapped me, you know, on the you know what to say? 1862 01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:17,360 Speaker 7: What a charge? Oh? 1863 01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,559 Speaker 5: My gosh, can you believe that that was unreal? I 1864 01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:24,080 Speaker 5: think about that way too often, so uh, it was 1865 01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:27,479 Speaker 5: an unbelievable memory for a young kid. And thank you 1866 01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:29,719 Speaker 5: uh to Joel for providing that man. 1867 01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:32,360 Speaker 7: That uh that gets me, that gets me emotional. Man. 1868 01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:35,240 Speaker 7: He had his desk for life, and. 1869 01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:38,680 Speaker 11: He loved people, and he loved the game, and he 1870 01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:41,599 Speaker 11: loved the effort, and he loved cheering for people. 1871 01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:43,599 Speaker 7: He was just for those who knew him. 1872 01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,760 Speaker 11: And it's probably some of those out there listening to 1873 01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:46,960 Speaker 11: the show right now he is. 1874 01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:48,559 Speaker 7: He was. He was. 1875 01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:51,760 Speaker 11: He was a one of one guy man, and I 1876 01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,439 Speaker 11: always looked up to him because you could walk the 1877 01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:57,000 Speaker 11: streets here in Chicago, Connecticut where I live, hect the 1878 01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:58,880 Speaker 11: campus in Notre Dame, and there's gonna be some people 1879 01:22:58,880 --> 01:22:59,880 Speaker 11: to be like, oh that Cordeck. 1880 01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,479 Speaker 7: I want to want a bumb what a punk he was? 1881 01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:04,320 Speaker 7: Or this or that? And there's not. 1882 01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:07,639 Speaker 11: A place you go where my brother once once roamed 1883 01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:09,600 Speaker 11: where you wouldn't hear nothing but great things. He just 1884 01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:12,760 Speaker 11: loves people, saw the best in everybody, and it was 1885 01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:16,160 Speaker 11: all about maximizing a day with fun, maybe not with 1886 01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,519 Speaker 11: the hardest working that day or checking off the boxes 1887 01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:21,599 Speaker 11: he needed to. But my man was gonna have fun 1888 01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:23,639 Speaker 11: and he was gonna lean into people. And I think 1889 01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:25,120 Speaker 11: we could use a lot more of that in the 1890 01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:28,080 Speaker 11: world today, no matter you know, how you feel on 1891 01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:33,640 Speaker 11: a potential war, or on immigration or on this or that. Like, 1892 01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,679 Speaker 11: my brother just loves people. And I think this part 1893 01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:39,559 Speaker 11: of the year makes me remember like what's right and 1894 01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,240 Speaker 11: what's good, and that was him. And you know, guys, 1895 01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:44,439 Speaker 11: I'm over here waxing poetical, but you guys got me 1896 01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:46,960 Speaker 11: talking about it, man, and I just, uh. 1897 01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:48,799 Speaker 7: He was special. He was just a good person. 1898 01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:51,920 Speaker 11: So I think for everybody out there, like smile today, 1899 01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:53,640 Speaker 11: have funks, that's what my brother would be doing if 1900 01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:54,360 Speaker 11: he was still here. 1901 01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:56,240 Speaker 7: And he is still here with us. 1902 01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:58,439 Speaker 1: You're gonna get me emotional, Jordan, thank you. 1903 01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:02,120 Speaker 11: Yeah, man, I appreciate you guys bringing them up. Everybody 1904 01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:04,479 Speaker 11: everybody always goes you know, I'm sorry to mention this, 1905 01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,120 Speaker 11: but I love your brother. I'm like, don't be sorry 1906 01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:09,000 Speaker 11: to shoot. I love hearing all those kind of stories. 1907 01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:11,240 Speaker 11: And that's that's what it's about. This time of the 1908 01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:13,200 Speaker 11: year is the best. It's all about the emotions of 1909 01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:17,599 Speaker 11: the tournament and and you know, careers being made, careers 1910 01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:22,000 Speaker 11: ending up, the emotions and a high level stuff that 1911 01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,320 Speaker 11: goes into this, and this is a culmination. 1912 01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:26,320 Speaker 7: Of a beautiful sport, a great season. I love this 1913 01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:27,679 Speaker 7: time of the year, absolutely love. 1914 01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,160 Speaker 1: We appreciate you and have fun at the game, and 1915 01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:31,280 Speaker 1: we'll talk to you again soon. 1916 01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:32,160 Speaker 2: I promise you that. 1917 01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:35,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, guys, I appreciate you having me on. Enjoy the madness. 1918 01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:39,120 Speaker 1: Thanks Jordan, Jordan Cornett, he's working with Westwood One and 1919 01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:42,679 Speaker 1: it's Purdue Texas later on tonight at seven ten pm. 1920 01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:44,200 Speaker 1: We got to take a quick time out. Morning a 1921 01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:47,800 Speaker 1: Moment ninety three five, one oh seven five The Fan. Well, 1922 01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:48,960 Speaker 1: Van Halen coming. 1923 01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:49,400 Speaker 2: In this morning. 1924 01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,599 Speaker 1: I like that too, Caleb, you've been on fire today too. 1925 01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:53,679 Speaker 1: Mark Dyton like over there. 1926 01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,840 Speaker 8: That's the best compliment I've gotten all week. 1927 01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:59,800 Speaker 1: It's Fan Morning Show ninety three five, one oh seven 1928 01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:04,920 Speaker 1: The Fan. Let's do quickly the NBA Draft Lottery simulator 1929 01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:08,160 Speaker 1: this morning. The Indiana Pacers losing to the Lakers last night. 1930 01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,599 Speaker 1: Lakers are playing pretty good basketball right now, James. They 1931 01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:12,599 Speaker 1: may be a little bit of a roadbump for people 1932 01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:13,599 Speaker 1: in the West right now. 1933 01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:14,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're third in the West. 1934 01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:16,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're playing really good basketball. 1935 01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:21,040 Speaker 1: So last night the Pacers lose after their modest one game, 1936 01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:23,640 Speaker 1: you can't call it a winning streak, came, You've got 1937 01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:25,960 Speaker 1: to have at least two for a streak, right, what 1938 01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:29,360 Speaker 1: were constitutions? Anyway, they won one against Orlando, they lose 1939 01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:36,439 Speaker 1: last night, and here we go, not the best Kevin fifth, fifth, 1940 01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:38,680 Speaker 1: that's not good. 1941 01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:41,720 Speaker 5: That's I believe what's happened in the last three years, the 1942 01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:47,559 Speaker 5: team with the worst record has later drafted fifth. So yeah, again, 1943 01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:51,280 Speaker 5: just to remind everybody, the worst, second or third worst 1944 01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:53,439 Speaker 5: record in the league, which the Pacers are very much 1945 01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:56,800 Speaker 5: in line to hold one of those three spots, you 1946 01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,400 Speaker 5: got a fifty two percent chance at a top four pick. 1947 01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:02,519 Speaker 4: So aren't the Patris like one of a few teams 1948 01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:04,559 Speaker 4: that has never selected number one overall? 1949 01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:05,120 Speaker 1: I believe. 1950 01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:05,840 Speaker 2: So that's someone was. 1951 01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,240 Speaker 5: Saying they've never had the number one overall pick period 1952 01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:11,840 Speaker 5: on their roster, Like, you know, Oh, that's crazier. You know, 1953 01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:13,479 Speaker 5: I'm trying to think of a former number one you know, 1954 01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:14,320 Speaker 5: Kwame Yah. 1955 01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:15,960 Speaker 4: I did see that, and I was trying to like 1956 01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,760 Speaker 4: debunk it, but it might honestly be true. 1957 01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:20,120 Speaker 5: I know why I thought of Kwame Brown. 1958 01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:23,719 Speaker 1: So in today's simulation, Sacramento got the number one pick, 1959 01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:28,320 Speaker 1: Memphis two, Utah three, Dallas four, Indiana five. You don't 1960 01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:30,840 Speaker 1: want that fifth spot, James, that's not what you're looking for. 1961 01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:34,240 Speaker 5: Well, ask you guys what I asked Tony E's yesterday. 1962 01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:36,840 Speaker 5: The NBA draft is such a crap shoot, right, It's 1963 01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,519 Speaker 5: very difficult, I think to hit on a draft pick 1964 01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:45,680 Speaker 5: best player available, that's what you have to do. You 1965 01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:47,479 Speaker 5: can't force a position, right, Well, what if the best 1966 01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:48,760 Speaker 5: player available is Darius Aca. 1967 01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:53,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1968 01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:58,320 Speaker 8: I would jump in here and just say, like, man, 1969 01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:00,840 Speaker 8: it would be a real tough ask for a team 1970 01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:02,639 Speaker 8: next year that we all think is going to try 1971 01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:08,080 Speaker 8: to go for it to draft somebody that doesn't fit 1972 01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:13,200 Speaker 8: and everything else is so stable that to me, it 1973 01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:14,599 Speaker 8: would be really tough. I thought it was a great 1974 01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,599 Speaker 8: question you asked, Tony, and I definitely get the best 1975 01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:22,840 Speaker 8: player available argument. But I do think there needs to 1976 01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:25,639 Speaker 8: be some element of like, Okay, if we're gonna try 1977 01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,559 Speaker 8: to go for this, which everybody thinks that's what they're doing, 1978 01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:30,880 Speaker 8: it needs to be a piece that can kind of 1979 01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:34,960 Speaker 8: seamlessly just drop in and go from there. 1980 01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:37,360 Speaker 3: In my opinion, that's kind of where I'm at. 1981 01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:39,640 Speaker 4: Caleb Black, Who, in your mind do you think he 1982 01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,439 Speaker 4: could jump in the Big four? 1983 01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:41,880 Speaker 3: Kevin? 1984 01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,640 Speaker 4: I guess that's more so where I'm at. I know 1985 01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:48,080 Speaker 4: Darius Acuff is playing great basketball as of late, but 1986 01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:52,320 Speaker 4: a ball dominant guard being higher up on the Pacers 1987 01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:55,760 Speaker 4: big board than somebody else, I'm just not seeing that. 1988 01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:57,839 Speaker 4: And even if the board falls a little bit differently, 1989 01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,720 Speaker 4: I still don't think that he would be ahead of 1990 01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:04,280 Speaker 4: Cam Boozer A J. Debanza, Caleb Wilson, would. 1991 01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:06,080 Speaker 5: You say that around the league or are you just 1992 01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,479 Speaker 5: talking the Pacers formulating their own board? 1993 01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:10,920 Speaker 1: I guess about Pacers, Yeah. 1994 01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:13,200 Speaker 5: But do you formulate your board based off your roster? 1995 01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:15,240 Speaker 7: That? 1996 01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:18,720 Speaker 5: That seems to be a kind of a shortsighted I 1997 01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:22,080 Speaker 5: think you right, don't you formulate the board of a Okay, 1998 01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:24,760 Speaker 5: this is who we think the best NBA prospects are, 1999 01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:28,880 Speaker 5: and then inevitably I think positional, Like again, if the 2000 01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:30,800 Speaker 5: best player available in the NFL as a quarterback, and 2001 01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:33,280 Speaker 5: the Chiefs around the clock, they're not taking a quarterback 2002 01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:37,000 Speaker 5: like I understand there's some of that, but I'm just curious. 2003 01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:39,719 Speaker 5: I guess answer that one James. Do you think Darius 2004 01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:43,320 Speaker 5: Acup is the fifth best prospect universally for thirty teams 2005 01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:45,120 Speaker 5: or you speaking just for the Pacers. 2006 01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:47,759 Speaker 3: Probably just for the Pacer. 2007 01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:50,600 Speaker 4: This is hard to say what the uniform looked like 2008 01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:55,880 Speaker 4: would be across the league. But even then, I'm I'm questioning, Okay, 2009 01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,200 Speaker 4: has he done enough to leap frog these guys. I mean, 2010 01:28:58,240 --> 01:28:59,880 Speaker 4: he's playing great, don't get me wrong, like he's a 2011 01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,640 Speaker 4: great player, But did we forget out Kayla Wilson looked 2012 01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:06,599 Speaker 4: I like, no player of the Year is probably Cameron Boozer. 2013 01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:09,280 Speaker 5: I like Kayler Wilson a lot, but there's also a 2014 01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,479 Speaker 5: part of me that's like we And again my hand 2015 01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:12,960 Speaker 5: is raised. I said this earlier in the week. I 2016 01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:15,479 Speaker 5: don't think we did a good enough job talking about 2017 01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:17,720 Speaker 5: Darius A Cuffer in the regular season. I mean, it's 2018 01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:19,640 Speaker 5: not like this dude had a quiet regular season. It's 2019 01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:21,759 Speaker 5: not like you just had two games in the tournament 2020 01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:25,080 Speaker 5: where he's SC Player of the Year and I mean 2021 01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:26,920 Speaker 5: have aged over twenty a game in the SEC. 2022 01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:29,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I look at it this way, Kevin. 2023 01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:33,160 Speaker 1: I think this group of four or five players, they're 2024 01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:37,519 Speaker 1: all projected to be really good players they are now 2025 01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:39,840 Speaker 1: if you think that, if you believe, if you're Kevin 2026 01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:41,720 Speaker 1: Pritchard and you just look at Acuff and you go, 2027 01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:45,439 Speaker 1: oh my god, this guy checks every box I've ever 2028 01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:46,240 Speaker 1: been looking for. 2029 01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:49,680 Speaker 2: I'll figure out the fit later. That's one thing. 2030 01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:53,439 Speaker 1: But I also think you're in an interesting position this year, 2031 01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:56,320 Speaker 1: which doesn't happen every year, where you got three, four, 2032 01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:58,760 Speaker 1: maybe five guys that all project to be really good 2033 01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:02,200 Speaker 1: NBA players. And if that's the case, all things been equal, 2034 01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:04,400 Speaker 1: then you gotta go for fit, don't you if all 2035 01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:06,679 Speaker 1: the other things, unless you think somebody is just head 2036 01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:08,160 Speaker 1: and shoulders above everybody else. 2037 01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:10,920 Speaker 5: To answer my own, yeah, I mean I think there 2038 01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,719 Speaker 5: is a level of fit that matters, and the Pacers 2039 01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:14,799 Speaker 5: are in a unique situation. 2040 01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:15,000 Speaker 7: Now. 2041 01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:17,519 Speaker 5: Some would counter and say, as a franchise, you never 2042 01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:19,720 Speaker 5: plan on being on the top five ever again, or 2043 01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:22,000 Speaker 5: at least for the next X amount of years, so 2044 01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:23,760 Speaker 5: that that means you try to hit the home run, 2045 01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:25,320 Speaker 5: you try to hit the Grand Slam. 2046 01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:28,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just don't think that drafting a ball dominant 2047 01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:30,679 Speaker 4: point guard is gone the PACER's radar. 2048 01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:33,759 Speaker 3: You got tires Halliburton free of singles. 2049 01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:35,880 Speaker 2: Now, all right, coming up to the next hour. 2050 01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:38,840 Speaker 1: Chris Scepco is the new ball State basketball coach. 2051 01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:39,559 Speaker 2: We'll talk to him. 2052 01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:42,160 Speaker 1: We'll get you ready to go for tonight's perdue game 2053 01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:45,200 Speaker 1: against Texas and a whole lot more Texas at two, three, nine, 2054 01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:47,960 Speaker 1: ten seventy. Tell us what's on your mind. We'll continue 2055 01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:49,679 Speaker 1: in a moment ninety three, five and one oh seven. 2056 01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:53,960 Speaker 2: Yetch up and going. 2057 01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,719 Speaker 1: This morning on the Fan Morning Show, James Boyd, Kevin Bowen, 2058 01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:59,800 Speaker 1: Caleb Zoover in for the ever vacationing Mark Dyke. 2059 01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:02,960 Speaker 2: Last I saw Mark social feed. He was drinking beers. 2060 01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:07,120 Speaker 8: Has he gotten the Tokyo Dome ice cream sandwich yet? 2061 01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:07,960 Speaker 2: I haven't heard. 2062 01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:10,599 Speaker 1: We'll have to check in with him a little bit 2063 01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:14,559 Speaker 1: later on on that. I was with the kids spring 2064 01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:17,960 Speaker 1: Breakers at Universal Studios in Los Angeles over the weekend. 2065 01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:20,880 Speaker 1: They have this thing at the There's a whole part 2066 01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:22,760 Speaker 1: of the park dedicated to the Simpsons. 2067 01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,799 Speaker 2: Right. They have this huge doughnut. 2068 01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:29,880 Speaker 1: It's like ten bucks, but it feeds like six It's 2069 01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:30,519 Speaker 1: that big. 2070 01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:31,720 Speaker 5: Did you get it? 2071 01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:34,599 Speaker 2: Yeah? And of course we didn't need nearly half. 2072 01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:36,439 Speaker 1: Of it by the time it is all said and done. 2073 01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:38,439 Speaker 2: But now it was a good time. 2074 01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:40,439 Speaker 1: So hopefully Mark's having a good time with his girls 2075 01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:45,000 Speaker 1: on spring break. And your kids are one's on spring break, 2076 01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:47,160 Speaker 1: everybody else a little bit too young, clearly right. 2077 01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:50,520 Speaker 5: We got two too. Yeah, Nelly at four months though. 2078 01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:52,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, no spring break, constant spring break for her. Man, 2079 01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:55,000 Speaker 1: she's on forever spring break right now. 2080 01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:57,760 Speaker 4: It's probably like Nick Cotten Jim and his daughter who's 2081 01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:02,200 Speaker 4: nine months old, and she was it next to me yesterday, Kevin, 2082 01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:03,960 Speaker 4: and Nick looks over. He's like, hey, man, you know 2083 01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:06,000 Speaker 4: this is three or three. You know, here's what it 2084 01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:08,160 Speaker 4: looks like. And I was like, boy, I'm still terrified. 2085 01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:11,439 Speaker 1: Nick is the guy that puts together our birth the. 2086 01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:13,639 Speaker 5: Weabite, by the way, best birth trow in the world. 2087 01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:15,760 Speaker 3: But shout out to him and his family, and you know, 2088 01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:16,679 Speaker 3: Nick is a great guy. 2089 01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:19,000 Speaker 1: It's all good stuff. So we hope Mark's having a 2090 01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:20,639 Speaker 1: good time. When was the best spring break. 2091 01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:20,880 Speaker 2: You ever had? 2092 01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:21,280 Speaker 7: Caleb? 2093 01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:23,639 Speaker 3: I think I said this the other day. 2094 01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:25,800 Speaker 8: He just took a trip down to Florida back in 2095 01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:28,080 Speaker 8: twenty twenty two, sophomore drove through the night. 2096 01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:30,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how we did it, but we did it. 2097 01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:32,519 Speaker 3: You Yeah, it was great. 2098 01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:34,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember sleeping a lot. 2099 01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:37,160 Speaker 5: How that goes. 2100 01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:39,599 Speaker 1: It's The Fan Morning Show ninety three five one oh 2101 01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:41,760 Speaker 1: seven five The Fan. We do have business to take 2102 01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,760 Speaker 1: care of, because Purdue has business to take care of. 2103 01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:47,840 Speaker 1: Another opportunity for Mett Painter in his group to get 2104 01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:50,880 Speaker 1: rolling again. And think about this, these guys get to 2105 01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:53,679 Speaker 1: the Elite eight with a win tonight, should they beat Texas, 2106 01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:57,880 Speaker 1: that's at least an Elite eight to go with a 2107 01:32:57,920 --> 01:32:59,880 Speaker 1: Final four International Championship appearance. 2108 01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:00,719 Speaker 7: Not bad. 2109 01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that's act of a run. 2110 01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:04,200 Speaker 9: Ye. 2111 01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:06,960 Speaker 5: I mean it again, I sound like a broken record, 2112 01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:09,639 Speaker 5: but you know there it's one of the greatest senior 2113 01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:13,240 Speaker 5: classes we have ever seen. Obviously a Purdue I'd argue, 2114 01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:15,960 Speaker 5: maybe in the Big Ten when you look at it 2115 01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:20,080 Speaker 5: from a conference standpoint, but still you want more. That's 2116 01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:23,479 Speaker 5: just it's how sports work, it's how fandom works. It's 2117 01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:26,439 Speaker 5: you know, if Carson Beck happens to complete a few 2118 01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:29,880 Speaker 5: more passes at the end of that National Championship game, 2119 01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:32,880 Speaker 5: it feels different obviously for IU fans, even though the 2120 01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:36,719 Speaker 5: story is insane, just getting to the national title game. 2121 01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:38,640 Speaker 5: And I think in a way that's kind of how 2122 01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:41,559 Speaker 5: Purdue fans would feel about this, James hit the nail 2123 01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:42,960 Speaker 5: on the head. I think for the last couple of weeks, 2124 01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:45,519 Speaker 5: it's you know, you're a victim of your own success. 2125 01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:47,880 Speaker 5: When you get to this point of you know, ninety 2126 01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:51,120 Speaker 5: eight percent of college basketball programs would love to just 2127 01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:52,400 Speaker 5: be playing tonights. 2128 01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:56,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you have earned the right to get 2129 01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:57,120 Speaker 3: your heart broken. 2130 01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:57,920 Speaker 7: Right. 2131 01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:01,120 Speaker 5: Seriously, it sounds it's a little bit like Peyton Manning's 2132 01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:02,160 Speaker 5: run with the Bolts. 2133 01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:05,960 Speaker 4: Because you know they're capable and on any given night, 2134 01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:07,840 Speaker 4: I still think this team, this produe team, can't beat 2135 01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:11,160 Speaker 4: anybody in the country. But it's always about I'm not 2136 01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:13,680 Speaker 4: saying anything here as groundbreaking news, but can you have 2137 01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:17,240 Speaker 4: your best nights on the nights you absolutely need it 2138 01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:19,880 Speaker 4: because this is not going to be easy. 2139 01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:20,599 Speaker 3: None of it is. 2140 01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:22,840 Speaker 4: And honestly, even looking back at their run to the 2141 01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:25,800 Speaker 4: National Championship Game a few years ago, they ran into 2142 01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:29,280 Speaker 4: one of the all time great college teams. Like, I mean, 2143 01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:32,640 Speaker 4: any other year with that program, you're probably hoisting the 2144 01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:33,200 Speaker 4: trophy up. 2145 01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:36,200 Speaker 3: So that's how sports go. And as we know, they. 2146 01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:38,720 Speaker 4: Can be cruel, Like we love it for all of 2147 01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:41,759 Speaker 4: the joy, but we also can hate it at times 2148 01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:44,040 Speaker 4: because it's like, boy that I need to feel that 2149 01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:44,840 Speaker 4: kind of pain to day. 2150 01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:48,040 Speaker 5: I got the vibe listening to the Texas players chat yesterday. 2151 01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:52,120 Speaker 5: They think Cam Heidie's presence is a big deal. They 2152 01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:58,080 Speaker 5: think Cam Heidie's got whatever legit intel. You think that's 2153 01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:01,040 Speaker 5: a fair statement, you think it's out of proportion. How 2154 01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:04,720 Speaker 5: do you view Cam Heidie's presence with Texas here over 2155 01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:05,639 Speaker 5: the last four days. 2156 01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:09,679 Speaker 4: I think this is a great talking point for us 2157 01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:12,639 Speaker 4: and something will probably blow a little bit out of proportion. Well, 2158 01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:15,920 Speaker 4: my thing is this, And to use a football reference, 2159 01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:18,800 Speaker 4: you remember like leasing to boom Over in Seattle. Sure, 2160 01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:21,240 Speaker 4: And I'll never forget some of the stories I've heard 2161 01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:24,040 Speaker 4: about their defense and when Gus Bradley was calling it, 2162 01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:26,720 Speaker 4: and I remember, I forget which game it was, It 2163 01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:28,240 Speaker 4: might have been a Super Bowl. I think Richard Sherman 2164 01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:30,960 Speaker 4: has talked about this when they play the Broncos and 2165 01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:32,640 Speaker 4: blew him out and he said, yeah, we ran the 2166 01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:37,040 Speaker 4: same play every play except for one. So, I mean, 2167 01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:41,679 Speaker 4: Cam Heidi probably knows some of the Purdue plays and 2168 01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:45,559 Speaker 4: what they want to do philosophically, but can you stop it. 2169 01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:47,439 Speaker 4: I mean, they have the number one offense in the country. 2170 01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:49,800 Speaker 4: So a lot of teams probably know what they want 2171 01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:51,559 Speaker 4: to do or are capable of, but they have been 2172 01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:52,200 Speaker 4: able to stop it. 2173 01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:53,400 Speaker 3: So I'm not too worried about it. 2174 01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:55,639 Speaker 5: Well, and again, you know, when you watch Purdue play 2175 01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:58,200 Speaker 5: PJ Thompson virtually every time down the floor, you know 2176 01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:00,040 Speaker 5: he's drawing something up on the white board, and you 2177 01:35:59,920 --> 01:36:01,639 Speaker 5: know he does kind of angle it a little bit 2178 01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:04,800 Speaker 5: so Braden Smith can can see it. So and you know, 2179 01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:06,439 Speaker 5: for those that haven't paid attention to Texas, I guess 2180 01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:09,559 Speaker 5: I should mention this Cam Heidi starts, but really he 2181 01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:12,240 Speaker 5: doesn't play a lot. I mean, it's like I'd have 2182 01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:14,360 Speaker 5: to look up his minutes, but I would argue here 2183 01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:16,760 Speaker 5: lately it's been even last game where he hit the 2184 01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:18,680 Speaker 5: game clinching shot, I want to say he played like 2185 01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:21,639 Speaker 5: fifteen minutes the entire game. So you know how much 2186 01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:24,240 Speaker 5: can be done from the bench if you look at 2187 01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:25,040 Speaker 5: it from a Heidi. 2188 01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:29,400 Speaker 1: Standpoint, Cam Heidi this year is averaging twenty two minutes 2189 01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:35,599 Speaker 1: a game, where like Dylan Swayn is averaging thirty almost 2190 01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:36,760 Speaker 1: thirty three minutes a game. 2191 01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:42,280 Speaker 4: So but to Kevin's point, thirteen minutes last game, Yeah. 2192 01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:45,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, it seems like lately with Texas. I mean, i'd 2193 01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:47,080 Speaker 5: have to double check that, but it just doesn't seem 2194 01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:48,759 Speaker 5: like he's really what you said. You have twenty something 2195 01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:50,439 Speaker 5: twenty two point for me, it just seems like he 2196 01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:52,120 Speaker 5: hasn't played that many even. 2197 01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:55,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, they've got some good players on that 2198 01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:56,639 Speaker 1: starting front. 2199 01:36:57,040 --> 01:36:58,759 Speaker 2: You know, it's starting five for Texas. 2200 01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:02,760 Speaker 1: Swaying Is is their leader in points, their leader in rebounds, 2201 01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:06,360 Speaker 1: their leader in assists. Uh Titus the big guy we've 2202 01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:09,400 Speaker 1: seen play really well in this tournament so far. Tramond 2203 01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:12,519 Speaker 1: Mark hit the game winner in that first four game. 2204 01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:15,040 Speaker 1: You've talked for quite a bit about Jordan Pope in 2205 01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:18,080 Speaker 1: the last hour. So it's not this can be when 2206 01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:20,720 Speaker 1: they're playing their best basketball. This is a pretty there's 2207 01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:22,519 Speaker 1: a pretty good opponent right here, Kevin. I know they 2208 01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:24,920 Speaker 1: haven't always played their best this year, but when they do, 2209 01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,320 Speaker 1: they could be tough to be Yeah. 2210 01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:29,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they also lost five or six. 2211 01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:31,000 Speaker 2: Well, I mean there's a reason there were seven and 2212 01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:31,160 Speaker 2: a half. 2213 01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:31,920 Speaker 7: They they were of the. 2214 01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:33,960 Speaker 5: Last teams to make the tournament. I understand they made 2215 01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:36,439 Speaker 5: the Sweet sixteen. Good on that, but I don't want 2216 01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:40,200 Speaker 5: to over you know, be hyperbolic with Texas. 2217 01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:42,600 Speaker 4: So I do want to ask this then you know 2218 01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:44,000 Speaker 4: you're a diehard Nor Dame fan? 2219 01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:46,280 Speaker 5: Did I come Was that a little too strong with 2220 01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:47,000 Speaker 5: Jordan Cornett? 2221 01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:47,479 Speaker 7: No? 2222 01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:49,559 Speaker 4: No, no, I thought it was great. Actually, I'm pretty sure. Yes, 2223 01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:50,519 Speaker 4: I thought that was great. 2224 01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:51,879 Speaker 7: And I was hearing. 2225 01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:54,559 Speaker 1: About there were rainbows. 2226 01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:56,599 Speaker 3: And podcast coming soon. 2227 01:37:56,800 --> 01:38:00,760 Speaker 5: I saw Caleb's tringing behind the glass and I was 2228 01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:01,799 Speaker 5: nervous cut. 2229 01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:02,320 Speaker 3: His mic off. 2230 01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:06,120 Speaker 1: We had rainbows and we had hearts just floating through 2231 01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:08,360 Speaker 1: the air around here during that. But it was good. 2232 01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:10,400 Speaker 4: The question I have is, Okay, so you're a diehard 2233 01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:12,679 Speaker 4: Notre Dame men's basketball fan, would you feel the same 2234 01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:16,519 Speaker 4: way if they were in this position like about Okay, well, 2235 01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:18,240 Speaker 4: Texas isn't really you. 2236 01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:23,519 Speaker 8: Know, Devin would be nervous. That's what I'm at to 2237 01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:27,160 Speaker 8: be careful for the eighth man, off the best man. 2238 01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:29,840 Speaker 4: I don't want to act like Texas anything, but come 2239 01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:32,200 Speaker 4: on now, like you have to once't you feel so? 2240 01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:32,479 Speaker 6: Well? 2241 01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:33,200 Speaker 7: Yeah? Again. 2242 01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:34,960 Speaker 5: You can look at it from a fan, or you 2243 01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:37,760 Speaker 5: can look at it from an objective point of view. 2244 01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:39,040 Speaker 5: And we're coming at. 2245 01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:41,280 Speaker 4: I feel like March's madness. The reason why we're not 2246 01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:42,960 Speaker 4: objective is because it's madness. 2247 01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:46,040 Speaker 5: An objective point of view, are we not? You know, 2248 01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:49,120 Speaker 5: like Oku made the Sweet sixteen against Gonzaga a few 2249 01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:51,720 Speaker 5: years ago, and I'm sure for four days we all 2250 01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:54,120 Speaker 5: were like, Gonzaga, man, they're really good this year, blah 2251 01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:57,800 Speaker 5: blah blah. And Purdue, you know, handle Gonzaga quite well. 2252 01:38:57,880 --> 01:38:59,800 Speaker 5: And again I get Purdue fans say, yeah, and we 2253 01:38:59,880 --> 01:39:02,679 Speaker 5: all Saint Peter's in the sweet sixteen, Like I geta 2254 01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:06,640 Speaker 5: still hurts me. Yes, I understand that the tournament is 2255 01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:08,880 Speaker 5: a tournament, But Vegas has the line at what seven 2256 01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:11,960 Speaker 5: and a half for a reason? Right, It's not as 2257 01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:14,439 Speaker 5: close as Iowa Nebraska's line tonight. It's not as close 2258 01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:18,120 Speaker 5: as Illinois Houston's line tonight, you know, I mean, like 2259 01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:20,559 Speaker 5: that's just the reality of the nature of this matchup. 2260 01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:22,280 Speaker 5: What's Arkansas Arizona that's. 2261 01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:24,040 Speaker 2: Seven and a half, yeah, seven and a half. 2262 01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:26,000 Speaker 5: But you look at that Houston region the other one tonight. 2263 01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:28,479 Speaker 5: What both those got to be close to Pickham's right. 2264 01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:32,120 Speaker 1: Just two and a half, Houston minus two and a half. 2265 01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:36,280 Speaker 1: So I'm just curious outside of Texas Purdue, which we're 2266 01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:38,639 Speaker 1: obviously going to be focusing on of those other three games, 2267 01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:40,439 Speaker 1: I mean, they're really good matchups there. 2268 01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:43,120 Speaker 2: This is a multi TV night for me. 2269 01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:46,200 Speaker 5: What it's a multi coffee day because you got to 2270 01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:48,120 Speaker 5: stay up for the late I mean those two games 2271 01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:49,439 Speaker 5: that James is late at night. 2272 01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:50,760 Speaker 2: James is not sleeping tonight. 2273 01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:53,600 Speaker 5: I think Arizona Arkansas is an outstanding game. Yeah, that 2274 01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:55,879 Speaker 5: might be the two best backcourts left in the tournament. 2275 01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:58,080 Speaker 4: I think I'm at the point now where once you 2276 01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:00,759 Speaker 4: get to the round with a nick name, I'm pretty 2277 01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:02,040 Speaker 4: watching watching every game. 2278 01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:06,400 Speaker 1: Said so, of the remaining three games, which one if 2279 01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:08,719 Speaker 1: I if I if you could only watch one of them? 2280 01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:12,559 Speaker 5: Well, you said Illinois Houston a lot this week, But 2281 01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:17,400 Speaker 5: I do think Arizona Arkansas is a great great I 2282 01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:20,240 Speaker 5: undercard sound stupid to some people. They might rather watch 2283 01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:21,680 Speaker 5: Arizona Arkansas mm hmm. 2284 01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:23,120 Speaker 2: And coaches too. 2285 01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:27,680 Speaker 1: I mean, Illinois Houston, you got Underwood against Sampson UH 2286 01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:30,519 Speaker 1: and two great coaches, obviously Caliperi in the in the 2287 01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:34,400 Speaker 1: Arkansas game, Iowa Nebraska, you have a sending coaches right now, 2288 01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:36,080 Speaker 1: so this would be fun to watch tonight. 2289 01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:38,879 Speaker 5: I'm Lloyd fielding questions in the North Carolina job yesterdays. 2290 01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:40,840 Speaker 1: He's the hot guy for Arizona right now. 2291 01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:43,479 Speaker 5: He was sweating as much as me asking Jordan Cornett 2292 01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:45,519 Speaker 5: about no name basketball speak of that. Do you have 2293 01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:48,519 Speaker 5: this Ronald nor Ad? Audio Caleb, So we had Norad 2294 01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:50,400 Speaker 5: on the show. This is a couple of years ago. 2295 01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:51,960 Speaker 5: I think it was when I was a Jake in 2296 01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:54,640 Speaker 5: the morning and Norad at this point, James, were you 2297 01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:56,639 Speaker 5: covering the pacers when he was a summer league coach? 2298 01:40:56,720 --> 01:40:59,840 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I remember walking up to him and asking, hey, guys, 2299 01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:00,920 Speaker 4: her niece's playing today. 2300 01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:05,479 Speaker 5: So funny this interview. He had just worked out Tyre's Halliburton. 2301 01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:07,639 Speaker 5: It was a summer morning, and then he was getting 2302 01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:09,519 Speaker 5: ready for the first practice with the summer lead team. 2303 01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:12,200 Speaker 5: This is Benedict Matherin's summer league team. So a couple 2304 01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:16,880 Speaker 5: of years ago, and Butler had just hired Thad Mada. 2305 01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:19,200 Speaker 5: So I had asked him earlier in the interview if 2306 01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:21,800 Speaker 5: he had spoken to Butler for the opening, and he 2307 01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:23,719 Speaker 5: said that he did. He had talked to Barry Collier 2308 01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:28,320 Speaker 5: about the Butler opening, but they obviously went with Fad Mada. 2309 01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:30,280 Speaker 5: And so then to end it, I was just curious 2310 01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:33,679 Speaker 5: with Ronald nored You know how he viewed his future 2311 01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:38,400 Speaker 5: in coaching. Ronald last one from US in five to 2312 01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:40,760 Speaker 5: ten years. Where do you hope to be professionally? 2313 01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:43,840 Speaker 12: I hope to be an NBA head coach. 2314 01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:46,920 Speaker 5: You think that's possible. 2315 01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:54,400 Speaker 12: I think it's possible. Sure, it's really difficult to do. 2316 01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:56,240 Speaker 12: It's really I mean, there's thirty of them in the 2317 01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:58,960 Speaker 12: in the in the world, and it takes a lot 2318 01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:00,640 Speaker 12: of work, and there's a lot of great coaches, and 2319 01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:04,120 Speaker 12: so you know, for me, it's it's more about just working, 2320 01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:06,840 Speaker 12: but being in positions where I can just get better 2321 01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:08,519 Speaker 12: and then if it happens kind of like I was 2322 01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:11,599 Speaker 12: saying about those players, if the opportunity comes about, and great, 2323 01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:15,160 Speaker 12: But you know that's what I aspire to be and 2324 01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:17,519 Speaker 12: that's what I work hard to do one day and 2325 01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:19,880 Speaker 12: you know, God willing it'll happen. 2326 01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:22,960 Speaker 13: Do you have to go back now to shooting baskets 2327 01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:23,919 Speaker 13: with Tyrese Haliburton. 2328 01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:25,639 Speaker 7: I don't. 2329 01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:29,760 Speaker 12: We're done for the day. He's probably running around, you know, 2330 01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:34,040 Speaker 12: cracking jokes and making everybody smile. But it's we start 2331 01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:36,320 Speaker 12: practice here in a little bit and so it's time 2332 01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:36,800 Speaker 12: to get to work. 2333 01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:38,840 Speaker 13: But it's pretty encouraging, is it not that in the 2334 01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:42,599 Speaker 13: first day of July, like before nine o'clock in the morning, 2335 01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:44,800 Speaker 13: the guy that's theoretically the next base of the frame. 2336 01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:46,320 Speaker 5: So there you go, Ron in horder. Let us a 2337 01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:48,439 Speaker 5: couple of years ago, and you know, James was kind 2338 01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:50,560 Speaker 5: of funny when he was with the Pacers there, I 2339 01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:54,080 Speaker 5: kind of assumed he would become an NBA coach. 2340 01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:58,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it seemed like he had developed his tracking rapport 2341 01:42:58,640 --> 01:43:01,120 Speaker 4: in the league and even with that staff, and you 2342 01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:04,040 Speaker 4: know Rock Carlisle, one of his calling cards when it 2343 01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:06,800 Speaker 4: comes to his assistance is that he empowers them. And 2344 01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:10,120 Speaker 4: so I'm not mad at him for pivoting and trying 2345 01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:13,120 Speaker 4: to chase a different dream now. But yeah, there's no 2346 01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:15,599 Speaker 4: doubt that he had certainly earned a great level of respect, 2347 01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:18,960 Speaker 4: and I don't doubt the x's and o's, the enthusiasm. 2348 01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:21,840 Speaker 4: A lot of it, as it always does, will come 2349 01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:24,040 Speaker 4: down to money. 2350 01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:26,720 Speaker 5: Try to remember, was he was he one of the 2351 01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:28,639 Speaker 5: coordinators will see like offense or defense. 2352 01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:30,960 Speaker 3: I can't remember. It's been a few years for me. 2353 01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:34,080 Speaker 5: Because I was still when they had Mike Winer, right. 2354 01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:36,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I do remember this distinctly, like he was 2355 01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:40,080 Speaker 4: very much into player development, like he was all in 2356 01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:43,439 Speaker 4: with Tyresee and a few of those guys watching film, 2357 01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:46,320 Speaker 4: breaking down clips and doing extra work off to the side. 2358 01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:48,280 Speaker 4: So that's what I remember the most about him. And 2359 01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:50,439 Speaker 4: when he got that Summer League opportunity to be the 2360 01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:53,520 Speaker 4: head coach of that team, he was so grateful and 2361 01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:55,720 Speaker 4: again looking back at it, it's so crazy to see 2362 01:43:55,760 --> 01:44:00,519 Speaker 4: how things have changed for certain people in those actions, 2363 01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:02,760 Speaker 4: because for him, he's now the Butler head coach. And 2364 01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:05,240 Speaker 4: again I'm asking him if Aaron Nesmith, who had just 2365 01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:07,400 Speaker 4: traded for is going to play in the Summer League. 2366 01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:07,960 Speaker 7: Aaron E. 2367 01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:08,920 Speaker 3: Smith just started in the. 2368 01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:12,559 Speaker 4: Finals, so you know, and has gotten a nice NBA 2369 01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:17,160 Speaker 4: contract and is basically had his career thrive here in Indianapolis. 2370 01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:21,000 Speaker 4: So it's a full circle moment for Ronald and well deserved. 2371 01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:24,080 Speaker 1: I think just thirty six years old, is that right, Kevin, Yeah? 2372 01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:25,880 Speaker 5: I think yeah. If I remember correctly, him and I 2373 01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:29,280 Speaker 5: I think were the same high school graduating class. And remember, 2374 01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:31,000 Speaker 5: you know, he took that Butler or he took that 2375 01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:33,680 Speaker 5: Brownsburg job at the I went back and listened to 2376 01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:35,840 Speaker 5: that interview yesterday we did with him. He was telling 2377 01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:38,720 Speaker 5: the story about taking the Brownsburg job that at some 2378 01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:43,400 Speaker 5: point during his final season at Butler, Brad Stevens says 2379 01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:46,280 Speaker 5: to him, Hey, I think it was after the conference tournament. 2380 01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:48,200 Speaker 5: He goes, Hey, after the conference tournament, I want you 2381 01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:51,080 Speaker 5: to come over to my house. I've got an opportunity 2382 01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:54,400 Speaker 5: for you that i want to discuss. And Norah was like, 2383 01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:58,439 Speaker 5: nobody went to coach Steven's house. That was not a 2384 01:44:58,439 --> 01:45:00,519 Speaker 5: thing that we did. And so he he was very 2385 01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:02,800 Speaker 5: like kind of caught off guard by it. And I 2386 01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:06,559 Speaker 5: guess the Brownsburg I hope I have this right. I 2387 01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:11,760 Speaker 5: think it's the Brownsburg superintendent had somehow reached out to 2388 01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:15,000 Speaker 5: Brad Stevens and said that I think Ronald was maybe 2389 01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:17,320 Speaker 5: doing some like AAU coaching in the summer when he 2390 01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:20,200 Speaker 5: was at Butler, and was like, I want Ronald Nori 2391 01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:22,160 Speaker 5: to be our high school basketball coach. And I mean 2392 01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:26,240 Speaker 5: that's Brownsburg, that's not your one a school down the 2393 01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:28,960 Speaker 5: road where you know he's got a family connection. I mean, 2394 01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:30,960 Speaker 5: where do you go to high school somewhere in Alabama? 2395 01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:34,040 Speaker 5: I think yeah for Nora Edl. So he you know, 2396 01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:38,320 Speaker 5: took the Brownsburg job the first year after playing, so yeah, 2397 01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:40,680 Speaker 5: he was saying that they lost a I forget who 2398 01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:43,639 Speaker 5: they lost to, but Butler actually lost in their conference tournament. 2399 01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:45,240 Speaker 5: The second year when they made it all the way 2400 01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:48,160 Speaker 5: to the national title game again, he goes up at 2401 01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:50,200 Speaker 5: Brad Stevens house and Brad Stevens is like, hey man, 2402 01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:52,840 Speaker 5: Brownsburg High School wants to hire you once you're done here. 2403 01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:54,880 Speaker 4: Well, that's a better interaction than I had when I 2404 01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:57,439 Speaker 4: started off in this field. Fresh out of college, got 2405 01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:01,680 Speaker 4: sent to Mayville High School for first day of football 2406 01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:03,439 Speaker 4: practice in the fall, and they asked me if I 2407 01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:08,000 Speaker 4: was trying out for the team wide receivers over there, 2408 01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:09,599 Speaker 4: and I said, I'm not a wide receiver and I'm 2409 01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:09,880 Speaker 4: not in. 2410 01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:12,200 Speaker 1: High school and I don't like getting hit either. 2411 01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:12,479 Speaker 11: Right. 2412 01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:14,559 Speaker 5: Oh no, Well, you could just pull your car over 2413 01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:17,160 Speaker 5: on sixty five and you could watch practice right there. 2414 01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:17,760 Speaker 3: It really could. 2415 01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:19,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the fields right there. 2416 01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:22,080 Speaker 3: I always drive past that school when I'm going there. 2417 01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:22,439 Speaker 7: Yep. 2418 01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:26,320 Speaker 1: Uh, you're getting excited for the Cathedral game State championship game. 2419 01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:27,599 Speaker 2: You're alma mater on Saturday. 2420 01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:27,920 Speaker 7: Yeah. 2421 01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:30,760 Speaker 5: They had a huge comeback to beat Silver Creek in 2422 01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:34,000 Speaker 5: the semi state. Keaton Old George was outstanding in that one. 2423 01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:36,920 Speaker 5: So it sounds like the new Haven story is a 2424 01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:39,400 Speaker 5: great one. That's who they play new Haven. Shout out 2425 01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:41,719 Speaker 5: of VJ. Beacham, former Notre Dame basketball player from new Haven. 2426 01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:44,360 Speaker 5: I believe I heard Greg Grigshall say earlier this week 2427 01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:47,559 Speaker 5: new Haven has never won a state title in any 2428 01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:50,320 Speaker 5: say not, which is pretty cool. So I know a 2429 01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:52,360 Speaker 5: lot of people like playing for number three. I know 2430 01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:54,800 Speaker 5: a lot of people like to root against Cathedral, and 2431 01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:57,000 Speaker 5: so the new Haven story is one that's easy to 2432 01:46:57,040 --> 01:46:59,040 Speaker 5: root for. So yeah, that is a cool story. I 2433 01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:01,080 Speaker 5: think we don't have a lot of that. I think 2434 01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:04,000 Speaker 5: in this year's class. I believe they have the most 2435 01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:07,240 Speaker 5: losses of any team twenty two and seven that is playing. 2436 01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:09,240 Speaker 5: So yeah, that'll be your first game of the night 2437 01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:10,960 Speaker 5: cap and you're are you doing both three A and 2438 01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:11,880 Speaker 5: four just for it. 2439 01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:14,160 Speaker 1: I've got the four A game and both the Mount 2440 01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:16,280 Speaker 1: Vernon Crown Point looking for their first. 2441 01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:20,200 Speaker 2: Ever state titles. There you go in basketball basketball? 2442 01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:23,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, Crown Point James great wrestling program. 2443 01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:27,160 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I forget the kid's name, but years ago 2444 01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:29,600 Speaker 4: they had a dude that won like three straight. 2445 01:47:31,040 --> 01:47:34,280 Speaker 5: State search search something weird like that. 2446 01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:36,280 Speaker 3: No, I think it was like Mendez or something. 2447 01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:40,240 Speaker 5: But nevertheless, the region can produce some wrestlers. 2448 01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:42,719 Speaker 1: You saw a Crownpoint game this year, right, Yeah? 2449 01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:45,160 Speaker 3: I love their head coach, Clint Swan. 2450 01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:47,000 Speaker 5: You saw a crown Point Mount Vernon, didn't you. 2451 01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:49,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the game that I saw. And Clint 2452 01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:50,800 Speaker 4: told me that he's been coaching for twenty nine years 2453 01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:52,559 Speaker 4: until him I was thirty, and he said, you should 2454 01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:55,280 Speaker 4: have told me that. But here's the kids name, Jesse Mendez. 2455 01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:58,000 Speaker 4: He was a great, great wrestler at Crownpoint a few 2456 01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:00,679 Speaker 4: years ago, actually a four time day champion. 2457 01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:03,840 Speaker 1: All right, that's what's happening in high school sports right now. 2458 01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:06,080 Speaker 1: Everything else happens here. And now we'll start with the 2459 01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:09,800 Speaker 1: Sweet sixteen that comes your way tonight seven ten Sen Jose, California, 2460 01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:12,799 Speaker 1: the number two seed Perdue boiler Makers taken on eleven 2461 01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:16,960 Speaker 1: seed Texas tonight in that West Region seven ten tip off. 2462 01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:19,360 Speaker 1: Purdue has won six in a row seven of their 2463 01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:22,599 Speaker 1: last eight. Texas has won three in a row after 2464 01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:25,960 Speaker 1: losing five of six at the end of their regular season. 2465 01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:29,559 Speaker 1: And we would we wait to see a if CJ. 2466 01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:32,639 Speaker 1: Cox is healthy and ready to go with that sore knee. 2467 01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:34,880 Speaker 1: Kevin I think he'll give it a go at least tonight. 2468 01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:35,080 Speaker 9: Right. 2469 01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:35,760 Speaker 2: Sounds like it. 2470 01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:38,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if we have anything confirmed, but 2471 01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:40,360 Speaker 5: sound like you did some stuff on the floor yesterday 2472 01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:43,320 Speaker 5: during their open practice for Texas. They also have an 2473 01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:47,080 Speaker 5: injury to watch. Jordan Pope, one of their more dynamic guards. 2474 01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:49,720 Speaker 5: He injured his ankle late in their win over Gonzaga 2475 01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:51,720 Speaker 5: in the round of thirty two. So a couple of 2476 01:48:51,800 --> 01:48:54,920 Speaker 5: guard related injuries. And again not to look ahead, but 2477 01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:58,639 Speaker 5: I will. If Purdue does win, the CJ. Cox presence 2478 01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:03,160 Speaker 5: in defending Arizona and or Arkansa or Arkansas's backcourt will 2479 01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:06,799 Speaker 5: be vital. So you know, you could probably survive Texas 2480 01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:10,240 Speaker 5: with a banged up CJ. Cox. But that next game, 2481 01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:11,719 Speaker 5: I believe you, Cam. 2482 01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:12,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. 2483 01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:15,280 Speaker 1: NBA last night at the field House, it was a 2484 01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:18,760 Speaker 1: short lived winning streak against Orlando, but the Lakers came to. 2485 01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:20,280 Speaker 2: Town and they winning streak. 2486 01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:24,240 Speaker 1: One game they won against Orlando this year. This year, 2487 01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:29,200 Speaker 1: that's a streak, James boy. But the Lakers won at 2488 01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:30,040 Speaker 1: won thirty seven to one. 2489 01:49:30,080 --> 01:49:30,280 Speaker 2: Thirty. 2490 01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:32,400 Speaker 1: Look at Doncts. He had forty four the first time 2491 01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:34,479 Speaker 1: these two teams played this year. Backed it up with 2492 01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:37,320 Speaker 1: forty three last night. Lebron James contributed to twenty three. 2493 01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:40,400 Speaker 1: Austin Reeves at twenty five, but man I said, this 2494 01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:42,479 Speaker 1: is the first hour Lebron can still moved. You see 2495 01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:46,880 Speaker 1: that Dunky had right over he posterized the Huff last night. 2496 01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:49,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, he dunked all over that team last night. But 2497 01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:51,840 Speaker 4: that's all right. The Pacers shall return. 2498 01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:54,080 Speaker 1: Didn't a couple of minutes later, Caleb didn't Huff get 2499 01:49:54,280 --> 01:49:56,679 Speaker 1: a big dunk rout like two trips down the floor 2500 01:49:56,720 --> 01:49:57,240 Speaker 1: after that. 2501 01:49:57,160 --> 01:49:57,920 Speaker 2: Too, he did. 2502 01:49:57,960 --> 01:50:00,280 Speaker 8: He had a couple of those statue of Liberty unks 2503 01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:00,800 Speaker 8: last night. 2504 01:50:00,920 --> 01:50:01,639 Speaker 5: Thank that King. 2505 01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:02,519 Speaker 1: M hmm. 2506 01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:04,360 Speaker 5: By the way, I saw himoff going to play out 2507 01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:06,160 Speaker 5: every game this year. Is he still? Is he still 2508 01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:08,519 Speaker 5: on track? I think he's the only pacern could be. 2509 01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:10,160 Speaker 7: Off. 2510 01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:12,760 Speaker 1: To double check that we But Caitlin Clark was was 2511 01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:14,320 Speaker 1: serving as a photographer last night. 2512 01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:16,320 Speaker 2: I saw some of the photos she took on social 2513 01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:17,519 Speaker 2: media today. She got a. 2514 01:50:17,479 --> 01:50:19,680 Speaker 1: Picture of that Jay Huff slam and it was a 2515 01:50:19,680 --> 01:50:21,400 Speaker 1: good one and it looked like he was looking right 2516 01:50:21,439 --> 01:50:23,920 Speaker 1: at her when he slammed it too. So that's what's 2517 01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:27,000 Speaker 1: going on there. Also in the NBA last night, crazy 2518 01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:30,599 Speaker 1: numbers continue. Nuggets beat the Mavericks one forty two, one 2519 01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:34,160 Speaker 1: thirty five, a fifty three point night for Jamal Murray. 2520 01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:37,240 Speaker 1: But how about this line for Nikola Jokic Kevin twenty 2521 01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:40,280 Speaker 1: three points, twenty one rebounds in nineteen assists. You're playing 2522 01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:42,280 Speaker 1: at home, doesn't your home scorekeeper have to get you 2523 01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:43,920 Speaker 1: one more assist on a night like that? 2524 01:50:44,160 --> 01:50:47,840 Speaker 5: It is, Yes, there goes his bonus he's going to give. 2525 01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:50,320 Speaker 5: I wouldn't won the Yoakic brothers mad at may if 2526 01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:51,920 Speaker 5: ire that statistician. 2527 01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:56,519 Speaker 1: Also perhaps a preview Celtics over the Thunder one nineteen 2528 01:50:56,560 --> 01:50:57,000 Speaker 1: one on nine. 2529 01:50:57,040 --> 01:50:59,360 Speaker 2: And the Celtics have been playing really. 2530 01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:02,200 Speaker 1: Good basketballs and they got Jason Tatum back James, they 2531 01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:02,679 Speaker 1: look good. 2532 01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:07,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly, And shout out to Jason Tatum for being 2533 01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:08,599 Speaker 4: inspiration of Halliburton and others. 2534 01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:10,040 Speaker 3: When it comes to the occozal covery. 2535 01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:12,639 Speaker 1: All right, major League Baseball's opening day yesterday with one 2536 01:51:12,760 --> 01:51:17,479 Speaker 1: single solitary soul game, Caleb was invested in every pitch. No, 2537 01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:19,320 Speaker 1: you were at the at the Pacers game last night, 2538 01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:22,080 Speaker 1: that's right, all right? The Yankees won seven to nothing 2539 01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:26,240 Speaker 1: over the Giants. Max Freed terrific start, two hit performance 2540 01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:27,400 Speaker 1: on just six and a third inning. 2541 01:51:27,439 --> 01:51:28,040 Speaker 2: So you looked good. 2542 01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:30,120 Speaker 1: But Aaron Judge zero for five in the win with 2543 01:51:30,160 --> 01:51:33,519 Speaker 1: four strikeouts. Today, Red's host the Red Sox at four 2544 01:51:33,560 --> 01:51:35,799 Speaker 1: to ten. The Cubs host the Nationals at two twenty 2545 01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:38,479 Speaker 1: raised at the Cards at four point fifteen. So, Kevin, 2546 01:51:38,479 --> 01:51:40,960 Speaker 1: you got a double header tonight. The Red's right into Purdue. 2547 01:51:41,120 --> 01:51:44,040 Speaker 1: Reds might win it all. Let's go there. They're undefeated 2548 01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:47,160 Speaker 1: so far this year. Let's go Andrew Abbott on the 2549 01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:47,679 Speaker 1: mound tonight. 2550 01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:51,759 Speaker 8: This is the best spit in sports radio. Kevin getting 2551 01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:53,400 Speaker 8: his hopes up for the Reds. 2552 01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:58,280 Speaker 5: Then in July you'll be on here. It's real this year, brother, we. 2553 01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:00,200 Speaker 2: Got him to the postseason last year. What do you talk? 2554 01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:01,320 Speaker 5: Jeff was inspirational? 2555 01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:06,160 Speaker 4: Honestly, yeah, I think Jeff in that bubble headline. 2556 01:52:06,280 --> 01:52:09,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what it was right there. Also baseball 2557 01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:12,439 Speaker 1: tomorrow night, the Indians will open their season at the 2558 01:52:12,520 --> 01:52:14,880 Speaker 1: Victory Field. But by asking me, Chilli right, first pitch 2559 01:52:15,160 --> 01:52:17,840 Speaker 1: Saint Paul tomorrow at six thirty five. 2560 01:52:18,200 --> 01:52:20,280 Speaker 2: So, so what's going on? Enjoy the nice weather. 2561 01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:23,080 Speaker 1: Day is supposed to start getting really windy this afternoon, 2562 01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:23,800 Speaker 1: so do. 2563 01:52:23,720 --> 01:52:25,479 Speaker 5: You think Indians had that deal if it's less than 2564 01:52:25,560 --> 01:52:27,640 Speaker 5: sixty degrees at first, bitch, I believe you get to 2565 01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:30,160 Speaker 5: take it to another game, they sow, I do. I 2566 01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:30,760 Speaker 5: believe they do. 2567 01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:32,120 Speaker 1: Oh, I have to double check on that. 2568 01:52:32,200 --> 01:52:32,600 Speaker 5: I like that. 2569 01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:35,160 Speaker 3: I take verifies it. 2570 01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:35,679 Speaker 1: It's great. 2571 01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:37,640 Speaker 3: Is your iPhone? Is that that what you go off of? 2572 01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:41,759 Speaker 1: Real quickly to the Fan Invitational Golf outing is approaching 2573 01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:45,120 Speaker 1: April thirtieth, Legends Golf Club. It's going to be terrific. 2574 01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:47,960 Speaker 1: All the proceeds benefit the Franciscan Health Foundation. We're gonna 2575 01:52:47,960 --> 01:52:50,559 Speaker 1: have a ton of people that you're used to hearing 2576 01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:53,400 Speaker 1: on the air out there. Matt Taylor is going to 2577 01:52:53,439 --> 01:52:56,320 Speaker 1: be out there. Eddie White looks like we're getting to 2578 01:52:56,320 --> 01:52:59,839 Speaker 1: foursome together with Tucker Barnhart and Drew Storing. 2579 01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:01,120 Speaker 2: We've got some other folks that. 2580 01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:04,920 Speaker 1: Are going to take part for former Indiana and maybe 2581 01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:06,640 Speaker 1: Purdue players out there. 2582 01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:09,640 Speaker 2: A layer, which is the everybody, all of us will 2583 01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:10,280 Speaker 2: be out there. 2584 01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:12,519 Speaker 1: Jake jmv is going to be in a three point 2585 01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:15,640 Speaker 1: shooting contest with you. You better bring your game, James, if 2586 01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:18,040 Speaker 1: you're going to beat him in a three point shooting contest, right. 2587 01:53:18,120 --> 01:53:20,280 Speaker 4: I'm probably not beating him in a three point shooting contest, 2588 01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:21,639 Speaker 4: but I'll certainly try. 2589 01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:21,800 Speaker 7: All right. 2590 01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:24,360 Speaker 1: You can also take advantage of pre cancer screenings available 2591 01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:27,519 Speaker 1: on site courtesy of the Franciscan Health Cancer Center. Again, 2592 01:53:27,560 --> 01:53:30,880 Speaker 1: it's April thirtieth Legends Golf Club down in Franklin, and 2593 01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:33,920 Speaker 1: right now, text the word two three nine ten seventy. 2594 01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:37,519 Speaker 1: Text the word fairway and you can get forty dollars 2595 01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:40,880 Speaker 1: off a foursome forty dollars off the Force theme. It'll 2596 01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:42,760 Speaker 1: give you a a little bounce back message and a 2597 01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:45,960 Speaker 1: link to go and take advantage of that discount. So 2598 01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:49,559 Speaker 1: do that today, Fairway at two three nine ten seventy, 2599 01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:51,840 Speaker 1: and we'll hook you up with that. Lots to come, 2600 01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:54,880 Speaker 1: including a conversation with the brand new head coach at 2601 01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:56,439 Speaker 1: ball State. That's next. 2602 01:53:57,880 --> 01:54:03,160 Speaker 2: Y'all fired up over there, Caleb Zoover, I am, I sure. 2603 01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:05,000 Speaker 1: Am got the brand new head coach of the ball 2604 01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:08,639 Speaker 1: State Cardinals on the pay Less Liquors hotline right now. 2605 01:54:08,800 --> 01:54:10,680 Speaker 1: I've been looking forward to this all morning long and 2606 01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:13,080 Speaker 1: finding out a little bit more about him and where 2607 01:54:13,080 --> 01:54:16,120 Speaker 1: we're going up there in Muncie. And Chris CapCo is 2608 01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:18,160 Speaker 1: kind enough to join us this morning here at ninety 2609 01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:20,679 Speaker 1: three five and one O seven to five the fan coach. 2610 01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:24,519 Speaker 1: Welcome to Indiana, welcome to the area, and welcome to 2611 01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:25,160 Speaker 1: Ball State. 2612 01:54:25,240 --> 01:54:25,400 Speaker 7: Man. 2613 01:54:25,400 --> 01:54:26,360 Speaker 2: How you doing this morning? 2614 01:54:27,439 --> 01:54:28,120 Speaker 9: I'm doing good. 2615 01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:28,800 Speaker 7: What's up? Boys? 2616 01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:29,519 Speaker 9: How's everything? 2617 01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:30,160 Speaker 7: Wow? 2618 01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:34,400 Speaker 9: To be in Indiana and uh happy to be on Well. 2619 01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:36,960 Speaker 1: We're right in the middle of everything that's great about basketball. 2620 01:54:37,000 --> 01:54:39,360 Speaker 1: I got purduing the sweet sixteen tonight, new head coach 2621 01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:41,760 Speaker 1: at Butler and a new head coach at Ball State. 2622 01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:44,280 Speaker 1: And for those who don't know all that much about 2623 01:54:44,360 --> 01:54:45,880 Speaker 1: Chris CapCo, you can tell us a little bit more. 2624 01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:47,160 Speaker 2: But you've been working with Andy. 2625 01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:48,960 Speaker 1: Enfield quite a bit over the last several years. 2626 01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:49,320 Speaker 7: Correct. 2627 01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:53,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, I've been with him for twelve years, and you know, 2628 01:54:53,960 --> 01:54:57,040 Speaker 9: it's just been really hard to leave him, and not 2629 01:54:57,120 --> 01:54:59,960 Speaker 9: that I've been trying to, but you know, when this busines, 2630 01:55:00,040 --> 01:55:01,840 Speaker 9: this is so tough. Man. When you got somebody who 2631 01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:03,520 Speaker 9: gives you a good quality of life, to treat you 2632 01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:07,200 Speaker 9: with respect, who gave me a lot of responsibility, you know, 2633 01:55:07,280 --> 01:55:09,000 Speaker 9: it was just it had the opportunity had to be 2634 01:55:09,080 --> 01:55:11,240 Speaker 9: right for me to leave. I was happy with what 2635 01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:13,280 Speaker 9: we had accomplished, where we were at You know, my 2636 01:55:13,320 --> 01:55:15,280 Speaker 9: family was happy with where we were living and how 2637 01:55:15,320 --> 01:55:18,320 Speaker 9: things were going, So it has to take a really 2638 01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:20,640 Speaker 9: good opportunity to get me to go somewhere. And I 2639 01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:22,680 Speaker 9: felt like Ball State was at I felt like here 2640 01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:26,000 Speaker 9: there was real alignment between the president D A. D and 2641 01:55:26,040 --> 01:55:27,720 Speaker 9: myself and felt at the time it was right. 2642 01:55:28,480 --> 01:55:28,720 Speaker 7: Again. 2643 01:55:28,720 --> 01:55:32,000 Speaker 4: We're talking to Chris CapCo, the new head coach at 2644 01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:34,920 Speaker 4: ball State for men's basketball. Chris, I know he talks 2645 01:55:34,920 --> 01:55:38,440 Speaker 4: about being in alignment with the ball State administration and 2646 01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:42,280 Speaker 4: their athletic staff. What made this the right time for 2647 01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:44,600 Speaker 4: you to make this leap to being a head coach 2648 01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:48,240 Speaker 4: and also what made Ball State the right opportunity for you? 2649 01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:52,520 Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, I've been fortunate enough where I could 2650 01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:55,640 Speaker 9: be patient, right, and I was in no rush to 2651 01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:58,879 Speaker 9: go anywhere where I felt like there wasn't real alignment. 2652 01:55:59,360 --> 01:56:04,680 Speaker 9: After my first conversation with the ad Jeff Mitchell, I 2653 01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:07,240 Speaker 9: could tell he wanted to be good like you know, 2654 01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:09,280 Speaker 9: for me, I think whether it's a first time head 2655 01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:11,880 Speaker 9: coach or a second time head coach or whatever, all 2656 01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:14,120 Speaker 9: you can ask for is to go somewhere were the 2657 01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:17,200 Speaker 9: people who are put in place to make you be successful. 2658 01:56:17,240 --> 01:56:19,920 Speaker 9: They really and genuinely want you to be successful, that 2659 01:56:19,960 --> 01:56:22,560 Speaker 9: they're going to try to do whatever they can to 2660 01:56:22,600 --> 01:56:25,960 Speaker 9: give you the resources to make you as competitive as possible. 2661 01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:27,680 Speaker 9: And I felt that was Jeff. I felt a real 2662 01:56:28,160 --> 01:56:30,640 Speaker 9: I could tell I was his guy. Just the way 2663 01:56:30,680 --> 01:56:32,800 Speaker 9: he engaged with me, in the way he communicated with me. 2664 01:56:33,240 --> 01:56:35,320 Speaker 9: I could tell he was invested in me, and I 2665 01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:36,840 Speaker 9: had a really good sense that he was gonna do 2666 01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:39,480 Speaker 9: whatever he could in his power to make me successful. 2667 01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:41,040 Speaker 9: And that's all I could ask for. I didn't talk 2668 01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:42,920 Speaker 9: to President Marns. He felt the same way, or I 2669 01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:45,480 Speaker 9: got the same field from him. And because of that, 2670 01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:48,640 Speaker 9: you know, only coming two months in the last couple 2671 01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:50,640 Speaker 9: of days and seeing like the support and seeing how 2672 01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:52,520 Speaker 9: people come out and how they actually care about is 2673 01:56:52,520 --> 01:56:55,680 Speaker 9: only confirmed how I felt about this place. So I 2674 01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:58,120 Speaker 9: felt like it was a home run for me. At 2675 01:56:58,120 --> 01:56:59,400 Speaker 9: some point I was going to have to take a 2676 01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:01,320 Speaker 9: leap of faith in myself and bet on myself and 2677 01:57:01,400 --> 01:57:03,080 Speaker 9: show I was ready to do this. And I felt 2678 01:57:03,160 --> 01:57:05,040 Speaker 9: like with their alignment and just kind of where the 2679 01:57:05,080 --> 01:57:06,720 Speaker 9: time he was with everything, that this was the time 2680 01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:07,440 Speaker 9: to do it. 2681 01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:10,000 Speaker 5: The voice of Chris CapCo, the new head coach up there, 2682 01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:12,960 Speaker 5: shout out Dill Street ball State as they will try 2683 01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:15,120 Speaker 5: to end date type believe it's a twenty six year 2684 01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:18,120 Speaker 5: drought and make the nca tournament. Coach, did I hear 2685 01:57:18,200 --> 01:57:21,120 Speaker 5: correctly that you got a newborn? Like really young? 2686 01:57:23,320 --> 01:57:27,000 Speaker 9: You did fifteen days old? It's a good hacktic Yeah. 2687 01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:30,240 Speaker 9: March ninth, March ninth, I'm in the mix right now. 2688 01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:30,800 Speaker 7: Boys. 2689 01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:34,240 Speaker 5: Wow, congrats, I'm in the mix. Congrats on that. Hope 2690 01:57:34,280 --> 01:57:38,360 Speaker 5: mom is healthy and doing well. I do the scan 2691 01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:41,560 Speaker 5: of the bio. I don't see any obvious or direct 2692 01:57:41,600 --> 01:57:44,760 Speaker 5: ties to the state or ball State in general. Was 2693 01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:46,320 Speaker 5: there anything that I'm missing there? 2694 01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:48,120 Speaker 11: Uh? 2695 01:57:48,280 --> 01:57:50,800 Speaker 9: No, there is nothing. The only tie I have Ball 2696 01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:54,840 Speaker 9: Stay was that Darren Smith is from my area. I'm 2697 01:57:54,840 --> 01:57:58,840 Speaker 9: from Lakeland, Florida. Thereon was from Auburndlle, Florida, and he 2698 01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:00,600 Speaker 9: was a senior when I was a freshmen, so I 2699 01:58:00,640 --> 01:58:03,520 Speaker 9: know him loosely. But when he signed with Ball State 2700 01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:05,960 Speaker 9: coming out of high school, I followed his career and 2701 01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:08,080 Speaker 9: he had a great career, two time All Max Election 2702 01:58:08,200 --> 01:58:09,800 Speaker 9: was on the last term a team at ball State, 2703 01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:12,240 Speaker 9: so that was my first connection to it. But other 2704 01:58:12,320 --> 01:58:14,320 Speaker 9: than that, I have no ties to the state of Indiana, 2705 01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:16,440 Speaker 9: no ties the months he no ties to ball state. 2706 01:58:16,720 --> 01:58:21,320 Speaker 5: Have you recruited the state much, if at all. 2707 01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:23,960 Speaker 9: I have not, so I have not, but I'm not 2708 01:58:23,960 --> 01:58:25,600 Speaker 9: worried about it, guys, to be honest with you, and 2709 01:58:25,640 --> 01:58:28,440 Speaker 9: I said this at my press conference my last two stops, 2710 01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:30,760 Speaker 9: I had no ties to those places either. I had 2711 01:58:30,760 --> 01:58:33,040 Speaker 9: no ties to USC or LA. I had come from 2712 01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:36,480 Speaker 9: Georgia and spent my whole career in the South before 2713 01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:38,840 Speaker 9: I went there, and like I said, fixed McDonald's all 2714 01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:41,400 Speaker 9: Americans and eleven pros later it worked out pretty well. 2715 01:58:42,520 --> 01:58:45,400 Speaker 9: And then when we came to Dallas became SMU. You know, 2716 01:58:45,440 --> 01:58:47,280 Speaker 9: I haven't do the state of Texas much. I had 2717 01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:50,920 Speaker 9: no familiarity with Dallas and just went in there immersed 2718 01:58:50,920 --> 01:58:54,160 Speaker 9: ourselves in it. And I feel confident that wherever I 2719 01:58:54,200 --> 01:58:57,000 Speaker 9: go I can make relationships. I'm gonna work at it. 2720 01:58:58,280 --> 01:59:00,280 Speaker 9: I'm gonna be inclusive. We're gonna make sure that people 2721 01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:02,400 Speaker 9: have access to what we do so they become familiar 2722 01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:03,960 Speaker 9: familiar with us. And then I'm going to hire a 2723 01:59:04,040 --> 01:59:07,200 Speaker 9: staff who does have connections in the Midwest, in Indiana 2724 01:59:08,440 --> 01:59:10,839 Speaker 9: at all different levels, who can point me in those directions. 2725 01:59:10,840 --> 01:59:13,040 Speaker 9: But I'm going to work at building relationships. I'm gonna 2726 01:59:13,080 --> 01:59:15,480 Speaker 9: work at evaluating the kids in the state, and we're 2727 01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:16,920 Speaker 9: going to do the best job that we can to 2728 01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:18,800 Speaker 9: make sure that these kids are a priority and we 2729 01:59:18,840 --> 01:59:20,920 Speaker 9: bring the right kids in and kids who have a 2730 01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:23,320 Speaker 9: chip on the shoulder and know what it means to 2731 01:59:23,360 --> 01:59:26,280 Speaker 9: be of all State Cardinal and know what kind of 2732 01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:28,480 Speaker 9: town months he is. And We're going to work at that. 2733 01:59:28,520 --> 01:59:29,800 Speaker 9: But I'm not concerned with that, guys. 2734 01:59:29,800 --> 01:59:32,760 Speaker 4: To be honest with you, Chris, when you look at 2735 01:59:33,000 --> 01:59:35,840 Speaker 4: the changing landscape of college basketball and you've been in 2736 01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:39,240 Speaker 4: it for quite some time, what have you learned over 2737 01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:42,200 Speaker 4: the last few years with the introduction of nil and 2738 01:59:42,400 --> 01:59:46,200 Speaker 4: money and salaries and transfer portal? Like, how confident are 2739 01:59:46,240 --> 01:59:48,880 Speaker 4: you in just that world, in that realm of your 2740 01:59:48,920 --> 01:59:50,160 Speaker 4: responsibilities at this point? 2741 01:59:51,560 --> 01:59:54,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm super comfortable. And I told Justice during the 2742 01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:57,320 Speaker 9: interview process. You know, I've been an associate head coach 2743 01:59:57,360 --> 01:59:59,840 Speaker 9: for I think six years now, starting of the track 2744 01:59:59,840 --> 02:00:03,840 Speaker 9: of But anyways, when we transitioned from USC to SMU 2745 02:00:04,120 --> 02:00:06,560 Speaker 9: and we had to take over a whole new roster, 2746 02:00:08,640 --> 02:00:10,600 Speaker 9: you know, learning a new area similar to what I'm 2747 02:00:10,600 --> 02:00:13,760 Speaker 9: doing now. The money had started to take a jump 2748 02:00:13,800 --> 02:00:15,720 Speaker 9: that off season from you know, I don't want to 2749 02:00:15,720 --> 02:00:18,320 Speaker 9: say it's minimal, but it really took this huge jump 2750 02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:20,080 Speaker 9: in terms of what we were actually paying the kids 2751 02:00:20,080 --> 02:00:23,400 Speaker 9: and how we were negotiating. And when we came out 2752 02:00:23,440 --> 02:00:24,880 Speaker 9: on the other side of that, we won twenty four 2753 02:00:24,880 --> 02:00:27,320 Speaker 9: games our first year at SMU, and when I came 2754 02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:28,840 Speaker 9: out on the other side of that having to hire 2755 02:00:28,880 --> 02:00:30,520 Speaker 9: a new staff, right, we had to hire a couple 2756 02:00:30,480 --> 02:00:32,920 Speaker 9: of new staff members, and coach gave me a lot 2757 02:00:32,920 --> 02:00:35,000 Speaker 9: of responsibility with that that when I came out of that, 2758 02:00:35,120 --> 02:00:37,000 Speaker 9: I knew I was ready. I had never been more 2759 02:00:37,040 --> 02:00:39,200 Speaker 9: convicted that I was ready after coming out of that 2760 02:00:39,680 --> 02:00:42,800 Speaker 9: and the success that we had. So you're right, it's changing. 2761 02:00:42,840 --> 02:00:45,040 Speaker 9: It's chaos. My first thing is I want to get 2762 02:00:45,040 --> 02:00:47,080 Speaker 9: a feel for the guys at ball State who want 2763 02:00:47,120 --> 02:00:48,800 Speaker 9: to stay and go. I think there's some guys who 2764 02:00:48,880 --> 02:00:51,320 Speaker 9: I would love to have, but it's got to make sense, right, 2765 02:00:51,400 --> 02:00:53,400 Speaker 9: It's got to be the right people. Then we got 2766 02:00:53,400 --> 02:00:55,840 Speaker 9: to talk business and make sure that we can come 2767 02:00:55,880 --> 02:01:01,440 Speaker 9: to the right number, so to speak, sense for both sides. 2768 02:01:02,160 --> 02:01:03,880 Speaker 9: And then after that, hopefully once I get a better 2769 02:01:03,920 --> 02:01:05,680 Speaker 9: sense of who's staying and going. Then I can really 2770 02:01:05,680 --> 02:01:09,120 Speaker 9: attack the strengths and weaknesses of those guys who we 2771 02:01:09,160 --> 02:01:10,760 Speaker 9: know are coming back. With those guys we got to 2772 02:01:10,760 --> 02:01:12,600 Speaker 9: go get in the portal or in the high school class 2773 02:01:12,840 --> 02:01:15,080 Speaker 9: and things like that. But it's fluid, it's ever changing. 2774 02:01:15,800 --> 02:01:18,760 Speaker 9: Things can change at the snap of a finger. But 2775 02:01:18,840 --> 02:01:21,080 Speaker 9: that's you know, I'm not the only one going through 2776 02:01:21,120 --> 02:01:22,920 Speaker 9: that challenge right now. We're all going through and we 2777 02:01:22,960 --> 02:01:24,480 Speaker 9: all have to navigate it in our own way. 2778 02:01:25,040 --> 02:01:28,640 Speaker 5: Chris, last one from me, and appreciate your time. You know, 2779 02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:31,240 Speaker 5: when the new coach is hired, you know you hear okay, 2780 02:01:31,280 --> 02:01:32,960 Speaker 5: you know x's and o's. What's he like? 2781 02:01:33,600 --> 02:01:33,800 Speaker 7: You know? 2782 02:01:34,040 --> 02:01:34,920 Speaker 9: You know is he a. 2783 02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:35,840 Speaker 5: Leader of men? 2784 02:01:36,280 --> 02:01:37,360 Speaker 1: You know the whole. 2785 02:01:37,560 --> 02:01:41,280 Speaker 5: Recruiting landscape, connections, you know, NBA ties, et cetera, et cetera. 2786 02:01:41,320 --> 02:01:45,120 Speaker 5: How much do you view raising money as a part 2787 02:01:45,160 --> 02:01:45,760 Speaker 5: of your job. 2788 02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:52,080 Speaker 9: It's DeepArt now obviously, you know you have to do 2789 02:01:52,120 --> 02:01:53,720 Speaker 9: all that stuff right at the end of the day, 2790 02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:56,760 Speaker 9: the products you put on the floor and the outcome matters, 2791 02:01:57,040 --> 02:02:00,320 Speaker 9: But it starts with being competitive and an else. And 2792 02:02:00,320 --> 02:02:02,880 Speaker 9: that was one of the reasons again you talk about 2793 02:02:03,040 --> 02:02:04,720 Speaker 9: why I decided to come here and why the timing 2794 02:02:04,840 --> 02:02:08,000 Speaker 9: was right. My talks with my administration, I felt like 2795 02:02:08,080 --> 02:02:09,680 Speaker 9: the timing was right that they were going to be 2796 02:02:09,680 --> 02:02:13,240 Speaker 9: committed to giving me the proper nile resources to be competitive. 2797 02:02:13,360 --> 02:02:16,480 Speaker 9: Now it's up to me, with the help of them 2798 02:02:16,520 --> 02:02:19,400 Speaker 9: in our administration and other people in development and stuff 2799 02:02:19,440 --> 02:02:22,280 Speaker 9: like that, to go out there and raise more money 2800 02:02:22,360 --> 02:02:25,040 Speaker 9: to allow us to be even more competitive. But the 2801 02:02:25,120 --> 02:02:28,080 Speaker 9: caveat to that is is why you have to be 2802 02:02:28,520 --> 02:02:31,240 Speaker 9: competitive in that space. I also have to make smart, 2803 02:02:31,400 --> 02:02:34,400 Speaker 9: rational decisions and that's where you know, I'm putting the 2804 02:02:34,440 --> 02:02:36,960 Speaker 9: staff together and one you know, I hired an analytics guy, 2805 02:02:37,080 --> 02:02:39,040 Speaker 9: was my first hire, because we are going to put 2806 02:02:39,160 --> 02:02:41,000 Speaker 9: our gun and our instinct, We're going to combine it 2807 02:02:41,040 --> 02:02:43,680 Speaker 9: with the data and analytics to come about make the 2808 02:02:43,720 --> 02:02:47,200 Speaker 9: most rational decisions that we can. You have to be smart. 2809 02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:49,840 Speaker 9: You have to be efficient because people don't want to 2810 02:02:49,880 --> 02:02:51,280 Speaker 9: give money and I just go out there and spend 2811 02:02:51,280 --> 02:02:53,440 Speaker 9: it frivolously. So I take that that part of it 2812 02:02:53,520 --> 02:02:56,880 Speaker 9: very seriously. But the fundraising part is a huge part 2813 02:02:56,880 --> 02:03:00,080 Speaker 9: of it now because that's the first component, and giving 2814 02:03:00,120 --> 02:03:03,480 Speaker 9: you the opportunity to be competitive is making sure you 2815 02:03:03,480 --> 02:03:05,760 Speaker 9: have the proper resources in place, and some of that 2816 02:03:05,800 --> 02:03:06,360 Speaker 9: falls on me. 2817 02:03:07,280 --> 02:03:09,680 Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna have fun watching you. Best of luck 2818 02:03:09,720 --> 02:03:11,960 Speaker 1: up there. We'll have you on the show as often 2819 02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:15,320 Speaker 1: as we can. And congratulations again, man, there's nothing like 2820 02:03:15,360 --> 02:03:18,120 Speaker 1: having a newborn. It's terrific. Yeah. 2821 02:03:18,200 --> 02:03:19,680 Speaker 9: I appreciate you, guys, Thanks so much. 2822 02:03:19,760 --> 02:03:20,880 Speaker 7: Thanks Beach. There he is. 2823 02:03:20,920 --> 02:03:23,560 Speaker 1: He's the brand new head coach of the ball State Cardinals. 2824 02:03:23,560 --> 02:03:26,240 Speaker 1: That is Chris CapCo joining us here on the paylist 2825 02:03:26,280 --> 02:03:26,960 Speaker 1: lookers hotline. 2826 02:03:27,000 --> 02:03:29,360 Speaker 5: I find that a little wild, like when you see 2827 02:03:29,400 --> 02:03:32,720 Speaker 5: mid major programs and I'm not just talking whatever Butler 2828 02:03:32,760 --> 02:03:35,560 Speaker 5: and you know, again classifying Butler as a mid majors, uh, 2829 02:03:35,880 --> 02:03:37,480 Speaker 5: you know, not fair in the big East realm, but 2830 02:03:39,160 --> 02:03:43,520 Speaker 5: you don't typically see the higher I think at that 2831 02:03:43,640 --> 02:03:48,120 Speaker 5: level have like zero ties geographically. Yeah, that's a little 2832 02:03:48,160 --> 02:03:49,760 Speaker 5: unusual to me, is it not to you? 2833 02:03:49,760 --> 02:03:50,000 Speaker 7: Guys? 2834 02:03:50,320 --> 02:03:52,040 Speaker 5: No, And it's a one eighty from the previous guy, 2835 02:03:52,080 --> 02:03:55,280 Speaker 5: to be honest with you, Michael Lewis, of course, Jaspernadive 2836 02:03:55,360 --> 02:03:58,920 Speaker 5: and I you you know, player and assistant and Butler 2837 02:03:58,920 --> 02:03:59,600 Speaker 5: et cetera, et cetera. 2838 02:03:59,720 --> 02:04:01,800 Speaker 4: No, I think you're spot on with that, Kevin, because 2839 02:04:01,800 --> 02:04:04,400 Speaker 4: you talk about like the seven degrees of separation in 2840 02:04:04,440 --> 02:04:07,360 Speaker 4: life and sports is like two or three. And to 2841 02:04:07,400 --> 02:04:10,960 Speaker 4: not have very many ties, really no ties to ball 2842 02:04:11,000 --> 02:04:13,480 Speaker 4: State is a little weird, but it can. 2843 02:04:13,360 --> 02:04:13,880 Speaker 7: Be good weird. 2844 02:04:14,080 --> 02:04:17,200 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm very confident, dude, and very confident given 2845 02:04:17,240 --> 02:04:19,360 Speaker 4: his resume coming over from SMU. They just got to 2846 02:04:19,360 --> 02:04:21,520 Speaker 4: the tournament for the first time in several years and 2847 02:04:21,720 --> 02:04:24,440 Speaker 4: had a great recruiting class. He has something on his 2848 02:04:24,520 --> 02:04:27,040 Speaker 4: resume to back up why you want him to lead 2849 02:04:27,080 --> 02:04:27,560 Speaker 4: your program. 2850 02:04:27,680 --> 02:04:29,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was talking about the McDonald's All Americans 2851 02:04:29,920 --> 02:04:33,760 Speaker 1: and NBA guys that he has recruited during his time, 2852 02:04:33,800 --> 02:04:36,800 Speaker 1: mostly with Andy Enfield. But yeah, Bronnie James, Evan Mobley, 2853 02:04:36,920 --> 02:04:41,200 Speaker 1: Isaiah call Year guys like that. I mean, he's been 2854 02:04:41,240 --> 02:04:42,760 Speaker 1: able to find guys anywhere. 2855 02:04:42,840 --> 02:04:45,880 Speaker 4: Ronnie James four points last night against the Pacers, You. 2856 02:04:46,240 --> 02:04:49,040 Speaker 1: Got a good time erupted for four points last night 2857 02:04:49,080 --> 02:04:49,919 Speaker 1: against the Pacers. 2858 02:04:50,080 --> 02:04:52,600 Speaker 3: Shout out him, my buddy? Is it Dan? How you 2859 02:04:52,600 --> 02:04:54,000 Speaker 3: said his last name? Wokeie Woke? 2860 02:04:54,760 --> 02:04:58,000 Speaker 4: He's our Lakers reporter did a feature story on Bronnie 2861 02:04:58,040 --> 02:04:59,560 Speaker 4: James after the game, and I was thinking, boy to 2862 02:04:59,560 --> 02:05:01,960 Speaker 4: be lebron and so score four points, do you get 2863 02:05:01,960 --> 02:05:02,360 Speaker 4: a feature. 2864 02:05:03,000 --> 02:05:06,040 Speaker 5: Great time to be alive. Ron and Bronni, you're living life. 2865 02:05:06,080 --> 02:05:08,000 Speaker 5: Just travel the US, play in the NBA, and like 2866 02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:10,320 Speaker 5: play golf together. It was cool seeing him yesterday. 2867 02:05:10,360 --> 02:05:13,400 Speaker 8: I thought, like just dapping each other up like bron 2868 02:05:13,760 --> 02:05:15,920 Speaker 8: and I think when Bronny missed a shot, bron was 2869 02:05:15,960 --> 02:05:17,760 Speaker 8: getting on him a little bit, like it's just cool 2870 02:05:17,800 --> 02:05:18,240 Speaker 8: to see that. 2871 02:05:18,360 --> 02:05:21,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. Did you see that video of Lebron 2872 02:05:21,440 --> 02:05:23,520 Speaker 1: James playing golf yesterday? 2873 02:05:23,560 --> 02:05:23,760 Speaker 7: Yeah? 2874 02:05:23,800 --> 02:05:25,480 Speaker 5: I had a little uh yeah in the era a 2875 02:05:25,560 --> 02:05:28,000 Speaker 5: golf right with the sun. Yeah, yeah, I thought he 2876 02:05:28,000 --> 02:05:30,440 Speaker 5: almost snap hooed into the pickle ball course there. 2877 02:05:30,920 --> 02:05:33,360 Speaker 2: You need to get sixteenth t Can you give him 2878 02:05:33,360 --> 02:05:33,960 Speaker 2: a few pointers? 2879 02:05:34,120 --> 02:05:35,520 Speaker 5: I am gonna go out on a limb and say 2880 02:05:35,600 --> 02:05:38,240 Speaker 5: Lebron has access to some unbelievable golf coat. 2881 02:05:38,320 --> 02:05:39,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but not Kevin Bowen. 2882 02:05:39,800 --> 02:05:42,000 Speaker 5: Well, Kevin Bowen, you only get worse. 2883 02:05:42,080 --> 02:05:44,000 Speaker 1: You can play with Kevin Bowen at the Fan Invitational? 2884 02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:46,000 Speaker 2: Can you do that, Lebron. 2885 02:05:46,160 --> 02:05:48,040 Speaker 1: We'll get Lebron to play at the Fan Invitational? 2886 02:05:48,080 --> 02:05:50,480 Speaker 5: What do you think, Frank lavin Airport? He can fly 2887 02:05:50,560 --> 02:05:52,080 Speaker 5: the private jet right into there. 2888 02:05:52,160 --> 02:05:54,200 Speaker 2: We go, all right, coming up in a minute. We 2889 02:05:54,240 --> 02:05:55,160 Speaker 2: will get you ready to go. 2890 02:05:55,160 --> 02:05:58,640 Speaker 1: For all things sports the rest of the day, where 2891 02:05:58,640 --> 02:06:01,480 Speaker 1: to watch it, what to watch when it starts, everything else. 2892 02:06:01,480 --> 02:06:03,560 Speaker 1: As we continue next ninety three five, one oh seven 2893 02:06:03,600 --> 02:06:08,240 Speaker 1: five the Fan, It's Thursday, Sweet sixteen, later on tonight. 2894 02:06:08,280 --> 02:06:10,440 Speaker 1: But if you're looking for something to do between now 2895 02:06:10,600 --> 02:06:13,400 Speaker 1: and the start of the Sweet sixteen, Caleb, I know you. 2896 02:06:13,440 --> 02:06:16,240 Speaker 1: For example, your baseball guy got all kinds of baseball 2897 02:06:16,280 --> 02:06:18,720 Speaker 1: Opening day for a lot of teams today, including are 2898 02:06:18,800 --> 02:06:22,200 Speaker 1: Reds that open up at four to ten today against 2899 02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:22,960 Speaker 1: the Red Sox. 2900 02:06:23,760 --> 02:06:27,400 Speaker 8: The best, the best thing about being a sports fan 2901 02:06:27,680 --> 02:06:30,040 Speaker 8: is those days when there's sports on at one o'clock 2902 02:06:30,080 --> 02:06:33,600 Speaker 8: in the afternoon. So I'm glad baseball's back. I feel 2903 02:06:33,640 --> 02:06:37,480 Speaker 8: like it's snuck up. It really really did. But glad 2904 02:06:37,520 --> 02:06:39,120 Speaker 8: it's here and I'm ready to go. 2905 02:06:39,200 --> 02:06:41,360 Speaker 2: I'm excited. What's your baseball team of choice? 2906 02:06:41,440 --> 02:06:41,680 Speaker 7: Kayla? 2907 02:06:41,840 --> 02:06:43,600 Speaker 2: Oh, here we go again with the series. 2908 02:06:43,640 --> 02:06:45,320 Speaker 3: I don't know, know because. 2909 02:06:45,040 --> 02:06:45,960 Speaker 5: This is going to open up? 2910 02:06:46,000 --> 02:06:48,520 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Dos, it's. 2911 02:06:51,000 --> 02:06:53,400 Speaker 2: White bag. Do you see what do you see? Dyke 2912 02:06:53,480 --> 02:06:55,040 Speaker 2: and shying away from the Cubs in there. 2913 02:06:55,120 --> 02:06:57,320 Speaker 8: No, it's true, it's true. But I know we've made 2914 02:06:57,560 --> 02:06:59,040 Speaker 8: a long story about my fandom. 2915 02:06:59,040 --> 02:06:59,360 Speaker 3: This week. 2916 02:06:59,440 --> 02:07:02,760 Speaker 2: I'm a Detroit Tigers fan. Okay, it's supposed to be 2917 02:07:02,760 --> 02:07:03,280 Speaker 2: pretty decent. 2918 02:07:03,320 --> 02:07:05,720 Speaker 8: This year should be might be last year with Trek 2919 02:07:05,760 --> 02:07:09,480 Speaker 8: Scoobluh in a Tiger's uniform before he probably goes to. 2920 02:07:09,480 --> 02:07:10,280 Speaker 5: The Dodgers or something. 2921 02:07:10,280 --> 02:07:10,640 Speaker 7: I don't know. 2922 02:07:10,720 --> 02:07:11,280 Speaker 2: He will be. 2923 02:07:11,200 --> 02:07:14,640 Speaker 1: Pitching at Petco Park this afternoon at Fourteenth's right, fourteen like. 2924 02:07:14,600 --> 02:07:18,560 Speaker 3: Me, Caleb, I'm a diehard Dodgers fan, like teams that spend. 2925 02:07:18,600 --> 02:07:21,200 Speaker 4: And you're telling me about the Pearly gates. Okay, Hey, 2926 02:07:21,240 --> 02:07:23,160 Speaker 4: I told you. My hot take for sports is that 2927 02:07:23,240 --> 02:07:24,360 Speaker 4: bandwagon fans a genius? 2928 02:07:24,400 --> 02:07:24,920 Speaker 5: Is That's right? 2929 02:07:25,200 --> 02:07:27,040 Speaker 3: Why be miserable? You could be happy every year? 2930 02:07:27,160 --> 02:07:28,120 Speaker 2: Uh huh? 2931 02:07:28,400 --> 02:07:31,240 Speaker 1: Isn't being a sports fan at times? Isn't being miserable 2932 02:07:31,280 --> 02:07:32,320 Speaker 1: part of being a sports fan. 2933 02:07:33,680 --> 02:07:36,280 Speaker 3: I've seen the light, Kevin. 2934 02:07:36,320 --> 02:07:38,160 Speaker 1: You've had the ups and downs of sports fandom in 2935 02:07:38,200 --> 02:07:40,120 Speaker 1: your lifetime. Who's made you the most miserable? 2936 02:07:40,240 --> 02:07:46,520 Speaker 5: Oh gosh, just a pleasant thought. I mean, all I 2937 02:07:46,520 --> 02:07:49,200 Speaker 5: do is think about the losses Bush Bush lead eight 2938 02:07:49,240 --> 02:07:53,920 Speaker 5: against Kentucky Shrewsbury own after the ref from cal That. 2939 02:07:54,000 --> 02:07:55,680 Speaker 1: Was, Yeah, that was this year. 2940 02:07:56,360 --> 02:07:57,960 Speaker 3: It's one of the funniest. 2941 02:07:57,600 --> 02:07:59,640 Speaker 5: Videos ever don't have to remind me of that. 2942 02:08:00,840 --> 02:08:03,200 Speaker 2: That was before the injury, right. 2943 02:08:04,600 --> 02:08:08,040 Speaker 5: Up before the torneuil. Yeah, yes, yeah, you guys worried 2944 02:08:08,040 --> 02:08:10,280 Speaker 5: about Purdue. You guys act like you're you. You guys 2945 02:08:10,280 --> 02:08:12,440 Speaker 5: seem like you're worried about Purdue. I'm not worried about Producer. 2946 02:08:12,680 --> 02:08:14,680 Speaker 1: I worry about any game that's won and done. 2947 02:08:16,520 --> 02:08:18,240 Speaker 2: All I gotta do is have a bad shooting night. 2948 02:08:19,280 --> 02:08:20,880 Speaker 8: I think you gotta have you gotta have a good 2949 02:08:20,880 --> 02:08:25,760 Speaker 8: Braiden Smith game tonight. Turnovers can't be there. They're gonna 2950 02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:28,240 Speaker 8: try to drag you down into the mud. Texas's like, 2951 02:08:29,040 --> 02:08:31,960 Speaker 8: gotta gotta keep the uh, the turnovers down if you're 2952 02:08:31,960 --> 02:08:33,640 Speaker 8: Braiden Smith and just play a controlled game. 2953 02:08:33,960 --> 02:08:39,400 Speaker 4: I think if Purdue had played better against Miami and 2954 02:08:39,480 --> 02:08:42,760 Speaker 4: perhaps like in that first half, I feel differently because 2955 02:08:42,760 --> 02:08:45,240 Speaker 4: I thought TJ. Cox built him out, honestly, Yeah, those 2956 02:08:45,240 --> 02:08:47,080 Speaker 4: three three Yeah, I was because I was like, you 2957 02:08:47,080 --> 02:08:50,240 Speaker 4: guys are kind of flirting with disaster here and boy 2958 02:08:50,280 --> 02:08:51,640 Speaker 4: with an errative to be a lot different had they 2959 02:08:51,720 --> 02:08:53,760 Speaker 4: lost that game, but live in reality and they won it. 2960 02:08:53,800 --> 02:08:55,360 Speaker 3: But That's where I'm at. 2961 02:08:55,440 --> 02:08:57,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's to Caleb's point, like I do 2962 02:08:57,200 --> 02:09:00,839 Speaker 5: have questions about Purdue from a rebounding standpoint, from you know, defending, 2963 02:09:01,000 --> 02:09:03,800 Speaker 5: you know, strong drivers, you know, things like that. 2964 02:09:04,480 --> 02:09:07,440 Speaker 1: So you don't want to throw in any things that. 2965 02:09:07,760 --> 02:09:12,480 Speaker 5: You don't feel, you know, confident about, like turnovers or 2966 02:09:12,520 --> 02:09:14,920 Speaker 5: Braden Smith playing like you did last game. You know, 2967 02:09:15,040 --> 02:09:16,360 Speaker 5: now all of a sudden you throw that in there, 2968 02:09:16,360 --> 02:09:19,560 Speaker 5: and it's like, Okay, that's one I expected to be 2969 02:09:20,280 --> 02:09:21,360 Speaker 5: not happening tonight. 2970 02:09:21,560 --> 02:09:24,040 Speaker 1: And they shot it great against Miami. 2971 02:09:24,800 --> 02:09:27,360 Speaker 5: I mean, like as poor as they played or if 2972 02:09:27,400 --> 02:09:29,720 Speaker 5: you want to label their grade for the game, it 2973 02:09:29,800 --> 02:09:32,280 Speaker 5: was really just kind of rooted in turnovers more than 2974 02:09:33,040 --> 02:09:35,280 Speaker 5: they shot a grade. So I don't know. They're in 2975 02:09:35,280 --> 02:09:38,240 Speaker 5: another hockey arena right tonight. Maybe they'll shoot it good 2976 02:09:38,280 --> 02:09:39,720 Speaker 5: again in that building. 2977 02:09:40,400 --> 02:09:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm looking at all the baseball games later today too, 2978 02:09:42,640 --> 02:09:45,720 Speaker 1: and the very first game that gets played today it's 2979 02:09:45,760 --> 02:09:48,400 Speaker 1: at one point fifteen, And if you just love baseball, 2980 02:09:49,560 --> 02:09:52,600 Speaker 1: this pitching match of Paul Skins and Freddie Peralta as 2981 02:09:52,680 --> 02:09:55,560 Speaker 1: the Pirates take on the Mets, Like, if you like baseball, Caleb, 2982 02:09:56,200 --> 02:09:58,280 Speaker 1: that should be an interesting game to watch. 2983 02:09:58,520 --> 02:09:59,640 Speaker 5: Do you like baseball? 2984 02:10:00,520 --> 02:10:00,760 Speaker 7: I do? 2985 02:10:01,000 --> 02:10:02,160 Speaker 8: Are you gonna watch that game? 2986 02:10:02,520 --> 02:10:03,000 Speaker 2: Parts? Of it. 2987 02:10:03,040 --> 02:10:05,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I don't think I'll be there every I 2988 02:10:05,520 --> 02:10:07,360 Speaker 1: will not be there every pitch, but it'll be on. 2989 02:10:07,920 --> 02:10:09,800 Speaker 1: It'll be on in the back shirt as I'm prepping 2990 02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:11,160 Speaker 1: for the four A game today. 2991 02:10:11,280 --> 02:10:11,600 Speaker 9: Sure. 2992 02:10:11,960 --> 02:10:14,240 Speaker 8: And you know what, the only time the Pirates are 2993 02:10:14,240 --> 02:10:16,880 Speaker 8: probably worth watching is when Paul Skins is on the mound. 2994 02:10:17,120 --> 02:10:19,000 Speaker 3: So today is one of those days. 2995 02:10:19,160 --> 02:10:21,440 Speaker 5: We're always difficult to watch baseball this year? 2996 02:10:21,480 --> 02:10:23,080 Speaker 1: Did I get wind of that? Is there? 2997 02:10:23,320 --> 02:10:25,080 Speaker 5: Am I not just gonna be able to dial up 2998 02:10:25,560 --> 02:10:28,800 Speaker 5: my normal TV viewing? Like usually I get every Reds game. 2999 02:10:28,800 --> 02:10:30,360 Speaker 5: I have eight and t you verse, someone's telling me 3000 02:10:30,440 --> 02:10:32,680 Speaker 5: yesterday you're not going to get it? Is that true? 3001 02:10:33,280 --> 02:10:38,320 Speaker 2: Probably because baseball has the like Baseball makes. 3002 02:10:38,040 --> 02:10:42,080 Speaker 1: It hard for you to watch your team every year. 3003 02:10:42,360 --> 02:10:46,120 Speaker 1: They make it harder and harder and harder to watch. 3004 02:10:47,120 --> 02:10:51,240 Speaker 1: They are so fragmented and so interested in getting every 3005 02:10:51,280 --> 02:10:54,200 Speaker 1: teeny tiny last penny out of you that they make 3006 02:10:54,240 --> 02:10:57,040 Speaker 1: it almost impossible for you to watch your team on 3007 02:10:57,080 --> 02:10:58,880 Speaker 1: a continuous regular. 3008 02:10:58,480 --> 02:11:01,840 Speaker 3: Basiskybe just how ed boy after the show? Yeah, but 3009 02:11:02,160 --> 02:11:03,400 Speaker 3: time to illegally stream? 3010 02:11:03,480 --> 02:11:06,720 Speaker 5: I know, But I, like James said, James, gonna have 3011 02:11:06,800 --> 02:11:09,640 Speaker 5: my house burned down? The illegal streams will be firing 3012 02:11:09,720 --> 02:11:10,000 Speaker 5: up here. 3013 02:11:10,120 --> 02:11:10,720 Speaker 3: What do you mean? 3014 02:11:10,920 --> 02:11:13,040 Speaker 4: It will be burned down? It'll be jumping up in there. 3015 02:11:13,080 --> 02:11:17,400 Speaker 5: Man games, you didn't even know wrongs like man, what 3016 02:11:17,440 --> 02:11:19,600 Speaker 5: are these pop ups are all of a sudden showing 3017 02:11:19,680 --> 02:11:20,959 Speaker 5: up on daddy's laptop? 3018 02:11:21,400 --> 02:11:22,960 Speaker 1: The electric What are you talking about? 3019 02:11:24,160 --> 02:11:25,480 Speaker 2: Uh? 3020 02:11:25,640 --> 02:11:26,240 Speaker 3: Little faith? 3021 02:11:26,760 --> 02:11:30,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I don't know. NBC is supposedly so I 3022 02:11:30,120 --> 02:11:32,680 Speaker 1: guess the Peacock. You could probably watch Pirates mits today. 3023 02:11:33,200 --> 02:11:35,080 Speaker 5: I know I'm a little sentimental, but I really enjoyed 3024 02:11:35,080 --> 02:11:36,400 Speaker 5: the conversation with Jordan Cornett. 3025 02:11:37,280 --> 02:11:40,040 Speaker 3: First, I really was. It was sentimental honestly, you. 3026 02:11:40,040 --> 02:11:41,960 Speaker 5: Know, I think it's college basset went INSIGHT's great, let's 3027 02:11:41,960 --> 02:11:44,400 Speaker 5: start there. But you know, anytime I hear talk about 3028 02:11:44,400 --> 02:11:48,200 Speaker 5: his brother, I was always enjoy it, And so I 3029 02:11:48,280 --> 02:11:51,480 Speaker 5: really enjoyed brother was a baller to Jordan Cornette popping 3030 02:11:51,520 --> 02:11:55,560 Speaker 5: on and just dumbelialle personality, and for him to share 3031 02:11:55,560 --> 02:11:57,680 Speaker 5: a time with us, greatly appreciate it. Little nerd dame 3032 02:11:57,760 --> 02:11:59,920 Speaker 5: basketball talk for the three people out there that would 3033 02:11:59,920 --> 02:12:03,160 Speaker 5: like that. But more than that, I think you'll enjoy that. 3034 02:12:03,200 --> 02:12:04,880 Speaker 5: Up on the podcast, Caleb will have that up along 3035 02:12:04,920 --> 02:12:06,560 Speaker 5: with Chris CapCo. We just chatted with the new ball 3036 02:12:06,560 --> 02:12:07,200 Speaker 5: State coache Yeah. 3037 02:12:07,200 --> 02:12:09,240 Speaker 4: I think one of the reallest things he said was, 3038 02:12:10,480 --> 02:12:13,240 Speaker 4: don't tell me you're sorry to talk about my brother, 3039 02:12:13,520 --> 02:12:16,400 Speaker 4: because obviously it's painful. But I think that's a point 3040 02:12:16,400 --> 02:12:20,200 Speaker 4: we all can probably like resonate with losing somebody. You're like, 3041 02:12:20,200 --> 02:12:21,760 Speaker 4: you know what, it is probably good to bring him 3042 02:12:21,840 --> 02:12:24,360 Speaker 4: up every now and then reminisce and so a lot 3043 02:12:24,400 --> 02:12:26,000 Speaker 4: of good memories. I'm sure he had run through his 3044 02:12:26,040 --> 02:12:27,560 Speaker 4: mind throughout the interview well, and I was. 3045 02:12:27,560 --> 02:12:30,040 Speaker 5: Glad he shared a little bit more context around the 3046 02:12:30,800 --> 02:12:33,240 Speaker 5: and I can hear see Joel Cornette get closer to 3047 02:12:33,280 --> 02:12:37,960 Speaker 5: the mic going and we are still here. And I 3048 02:12:37,960 --> 02:12:41,120 Speaker 5: had forgotten the Ben Howland part to that of him 3049 02:12:41,160 --> 02:12:43,200 Speaker 5: not thinking Butler should have been in the tournament. I 3050 02:12:43,280 --> 02:12:45,240 Speaker 5: forget Butler beat. I want to say it was Oklahoma 3051 02:12:45,240 --> 02:12:47,520 Speaker 5: and Louisville maybe those first two games to get to 3052 02:12:47,520 --> 02:12:50,280 Speaker 5: the sweet sixteen. And you imagine being the Cornett parents. 3053 02:12:50,840 --> 02:12:53,200 Speaker 5: Both your sons are in the sweet sixteen, you know, 3054 02:12:53,240 --> 02:12:55,480 Speaker 5: and you're traveling across the country trying to make that work. 3055 02:12:55,640 --> 02:12:59,600 Speaker 5: So good problems again, fun fun chat with him and 3056 02:13:00,600 --> 02:13:02,120 Speaker 5: a lot of Purdue talk as well, because he was 3057 02:13:02,160 --> 02:13:04,120 Speaker 5: on the Westwood one call and he helped us get 3058 02:13:04,160 --> 02:13:06,040 Speaker 5: set up for tonight seven to ten on CBS. 3059 02:13:06,080 --> 02:13:08,800 Speaker 1: All right, your your pick tonight, Kevin, Purdue minus seven 3060 02:13:08,800 --> 02:13:09,520 Speaker 1: and a half, Texas. 3061 02:13:09,560 --> 02:13:12,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I got Purdue by ten, All right, James, give 3062 02:13:12,720 --> 02:13:14,360 Speaker 4: me Purdue by four. 3063 02:13:14,840 --> 02:13:17,160 Speaker 2: I go Purdue by a dozen, Purdue by six. 3064 02:13:17,440 --> 02:13:19,560 Speaker 5: There we go, say, Arkansas upsets Arizona. 3065 02:13:20,120 --> 02:13:21,800 Speaker 2: Oh, I like that. We'll check out out. 3066 02:13:21,800 --> 02:13:22,240 Speaker 3: I'm with you. 3067 02:13:23,080 --> 02:13:25,920 Speaker 1: What about Houston, Illinois, James, I'll give me Illinois. 3068 02:13:26,160 --> 02:13:29,000 Speaker 2: Okay, you're gonna sleep at all tonight. He's gonna drag 3069 02:13:29,000 --> 02:13:29,880 Speaker 2: yourself in tomorrow morning. 3070 02:13:30,320 --> 02:13:31,920 Speaker 3: I'll be here tomorrow nine 3071 02:13:32,080 --> 02:13:34,680 Speaker 1: As will the rest of us seven o'clock, Jake at noon, 3072 02:13:34,800 --> 02:13:35,480 Speaker 1: JMB at three