1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: Line from the Heartland and the crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: Tony Kats today. So it's a big meeting. 3 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: I'm staring at the UH at the White House right now. 4 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: You have got everybody looking good, lots of military lining 5 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: the driveway, and the conversation will begin soon enough with 6 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: President Zelenski and President Trump and accompanying them all the 7 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: leaders of Europe, everyone who's got a stake in whether 8 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: or not there's a piece deal, which I am convinced 9 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: is the deal of hey, Zelenski, give up a little 10 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: bit of land and make sure that we're safe from 11 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: Russian aggression for now. 12 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: Is that not it? 13 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: Because I'm pretty much convinced that that's exactly it. Tony Katz, 14 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: Tony Katz Today, Good to be with you. Find everything 15 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: over at Tony kats dot com. So first things first, 16 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: this is the first meeting between Trump and Zelenski at 17 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: the Oval since the blow up. This isn't the first 18 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: time they've seen each other since the blow up. Remember 19 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: they were there at the Vatican and it was the 20 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: two of them sitting right across from each other having 21 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: a pretty deep chat. So they have spoken since that 22 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: moment in the Oval where JD. Vance was talking about diplomacy, 23 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: and Zelenski said, what are you talking about diplomacy. We've 24 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 2: tried diplomacy with the Russians, so the Russians it can't 25 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: be trusted. 26 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: What he out of your mind? 27 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 2: To which then Vance said, well you could at least 28 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: say thank you. I still argue not Vance's finest moment, 29 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: and the guy is smart enough to have very, very 30 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: very fine moments. But the meeting between Trump and Zelenski, 31 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, between Trump and Putin on Friday leads us 32 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: now to this meeting today. What happened in that meeting, Well, 33 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: we don't actually know. We know that the conversation was 34 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: we're gonna have a cease fire or or there are 35 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: going to be some very serious sanctions placed on. 36 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: Russia. That's not what happened. 37 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 2: There are no extra sanctions right now placed on Russia. 38 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 3: Part of what happened. 39 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: Was President Trump saying, hey, I know we talked sees fire, 40 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: but now we can possibly have a peace deal. So 41 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: let's focus on a peace deal, shall we. It was 42 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: a pivot. Now, if you ask the left, nothing matters. 43 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: Nothing matters because they didn't get what they wanted. No 44 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: way they got exactly what they wanted. What they wanted 45 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 2: was to be able to say, my gosh, Trump did this, 46 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: My gosh, Trump was terrible, My gosh, Trump failed at this. 47 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: This is all they want, isn't that right? Representative Eric Swalwell. 48 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 3: Colors when your sense of where this goes from here. 49 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: Well, if you're europe you're quite worried now because you 50 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: just saw the president of the United States achieve zero 51 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 4: and they will have to ask themselves what more are 52 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 4: they willing to do, knowing that they two could be 53 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 4: thrown under the bus if Russia ever moved farther west. 54 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 3: But as far as objectives. 55 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 4: I was hoping to hear that there would be a 56 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 4: trilateral meeting that didn't come out of this. I was 57 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 4: hoping to hear there be a ceasefire that didn't come 58 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 4: out of this. And I was hoping to at least 59 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 4: hear about the territory that would be proposed or exchanged 60 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 4: by both sides. 61 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: You were not hoping to hear anything. You didn't hope 62 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: that this worked. You wanted complete and total abject failure, 63 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 2: because that's the only thing you know how to project. 64 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: If you take a look at the MSNBC By the way, 65 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 2: they're changing the name to MS. Now that's gonna be 66 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: the new network. You take a look at the screen. 67 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: There's the scolds Nicole Wallace, there's the fraud Jensaki. These 68 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: people are desperate to say Trump failed on every level, 69 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 2: all the time, in all the places, and then he 70 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: says this. 71 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: That didn't come out of this. 72 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 4: Look, Alicia, I don't know if Donald Trump is or 73 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 4: is not a Russian asset. I do know that at 74 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 4: press conference is like this, and like at Helsinki, she 75 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 4: certainly acts like one. 76 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if Representative Eric Swalwell is a cuck 77 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: who totally didn't bang a Chinese spy. But I do 78 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 2: know there's absolutely no way he banged a Chinese spy. 79 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: Is this what we do now? This is considered some 80 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: great intellect. They have nothing to offer, they have nothing 81 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: to share, They have absolutely nothing to say. What they 82 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 2: were hoping for was nothing. What happen so we could say, 83 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: look how terrible Donald Trump is. There's an argument to 84 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: be had regarding do you allow Vladimir Putin on American soil? 85 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 2: Do you give him that kind of uplift. It's a 86 00:05:54,240 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 2: unique question because it really goes back to nineteen ninety 87 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: style republicanism or Neoconism, or however you want to describe it. 88 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 2: You wouldn't elevate the enemy, right, you wouldn't. You wouldn't 89 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: do that. And I think that there is still an. 90 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 3: Argument for that. 91 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: However, when you're talking about what Trump has put forth here, 92 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: he is staking his reputation on the deal. 93 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: He is. 94 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: First things first, I if I if I was president, 95 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: well then this never would have happened, to which, by 96 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: the way, Putin in the meeting are after the meeting 97 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: of the press conference, he agreed with that, Oh yeah, 98 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 2: that's true. If Trump or president, this never would have happened. 99 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 2: Now they're he's not saying it the way Trump's saying it. 100 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: He's saying that Trump would have given them some concession 101 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 2: or gotten them some thing. I think everybody understands that, 102 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: right that the the overly generous hay neighbor Fred Rogers 103 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: style of Vladimir Putin is kind of kind of nonsensical. 104 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's actually buying into that. But for 105 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: Trump to get the deal is what matters. It's always 106 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: about the deal. And he said this is what's gonna take. 107 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: This is what's gonna. 108 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: Take to get the deal. We got to meet. 109 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: So they meet on American soil, not Russian soil, so 110 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: Putin's coming to him. 111 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 3: And then they engage a bit of stagecraft. 112 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: First, Putin has to drive by all these fighters, all 113 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: of our fighter debts just lined up ready to go. 114 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: And then as they're walking. 115 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: The red carpet B two bomber comes overhead, flyingked by fighters. 116 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 3: It's a good bit of stagecraft. 117 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: I heard some people say, oh, this just showed how 118 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: weak Trump is. 119 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: It's no, no, it didn't. No, it didn't. 120 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: The show of force being subliminal doesn't mean that it 121 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: doesn't work. And as always, and as we've discussed numerous times, 122 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: this is a problem for the left the show of 123 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: force because they don't like to show force. Barack Obama 124 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: never ever, ever, ever wanted to show any force at all. 125 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 2: He wanted to show weakness. He wanted to it would be 126 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: would recalcitrants be the right word? That was constant and continual. 127 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: That goes along with the apology tour that he took. 128 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: And if you're watching the live stream over their YouTube. 129 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: Tony Kats Twitter x, Tony Katz Facebook, Tony Cats Radio 130 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 2: the suburbans are starting to come forward, and world leaders 131 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 2: are getting ready to step out of these these vehicles. 132 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 3: We start with I'm not sure. 133 00:08:55,679 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: Oh that is Mark Root, the Secretary General of NATO. 134 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: Right there, a meeting with. 135 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 2: Monica Crowley, who takes care of these types of situations 136 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 2: for the White House. She was in the first term 137 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 2: as well, formerly of Fox News. Absolutely lovely, lovely person. 138 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: So these leaders are going to be arriving. The meeting 139 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: itself isn't a failure. Even though we heard, we were 140 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: told that Putin had to agree to a cease fire 141 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 2: or there would be serious, serious sanctions. The sanctions aren't coming. 142 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 2: The sanctions are not coming. Thereafter the peace deal which 143 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 2: brings us to this meeting. Now Trump gets done with 144 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: the meeting that the left ones to say was terrible 145 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 2: although they know nothing. And what's the first thing that happens. 146 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: Trump is on the phone with European leaders. Trump is 147 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 2: on the phone with Vladimir Lenski Ukraine. Now you've got 148 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: this meeting. 149 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: Everybody is there. 150 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: By the way, traffic in DC must suck. Right now, 151 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: here's my take of what is about to come. First, 152 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 2: I would remind you to look at a map. It's 153 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: super super important to do. You always got to be 154 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 2: aware of what it is that that is happening and 155 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: why it matters. 156 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 3: This is the situation. It's a land bridge. 157 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: The Russians don't want to connect to Chrimea through what's 158 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 2: known as the Kirch Bridge, which connects the Man of 159 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: Russia to Krimea, a bridge that the Ukrainians were able 160 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: to destroy. 161 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 3: They want to be able to get over in other ways. 162 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: So Danetsk Luhansk, which is the Donbask Zaporzia, another area 163 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: to the south in Kierson. 164 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 3: Having control of these areas where the Russians do give 165 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: them this land. 166 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: Bridge to Krirea, more access to the Black Sea, more 167 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: opportunities in terms of trade, more opportunities in terms of 168 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 2: well exerting Russian power. 169 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 3: This is the this is the goal. Now. 170 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: The goal is the whole of Ukraine. We shouldn't think otherwise. 171 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: The goal is ten thousand percent the whole of Ukraine. 172 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: The goal is to be an expansion is power. The 173 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: goal is then to see what else can you do. 174 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: This is the way the Russians think. It's not a debate. 175 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: So this brings us to this brings us to the 176 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: concept of what do the Europeans want? Long has the 177 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 2: conversation been that what we are seeing in the end 178 00:11:52,200 --> 00:12:03,479 Speaker 2: involves Ukraine giving up land. Ukraine is gonna give up land. 179 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: That's the only way this is going to work. Ukraine 180 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: has to say, in order to have peace, we can't 181 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: force the Americans to fight this for us. We can't 182 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: force the Europeans to fight this for us. We have 183 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: to give up these areas. It's the only way I 184 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: think it sucks. And one could argue that if this 185 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: was the United States of nineteen ninety seven, even under 186 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 2: Mell Clinton, if this was the United States under Bush 187 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: two thousand and two, if this will even post September eleventh, 188 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: if this was the United States under the first Bush Well, 189 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 2: then unquestionably you would see movement by the United States 190 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: in Ukraine to keep Rush out. One could argue that, 191 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: and certainly one could argue what Ukraine was like at 192 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: that time go with me on the theory. That isn't 193 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: the case today. And the case today from the Europeans is, hey, 194 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: we're not interested in Rush on our doorstep. And you 195 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: may not like it, Ukraine, but this. 196 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 3: Geography thing is a real thing, and you are the 197 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 3: buffer zone. 198 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: See, the United States, like you said, benefits from being 199 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: an ocean away from the rest of this madness. They've 200 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 2: got a lot of natural protection, do the Americans? Lucky bastards, 201 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: But that's the way that goes, and it probably helped 202 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: them turn into the indispensable superpower worth trillions, the most giant, 203 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: spectacular nation. 204 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: You've ever seen. You are not so lucky. 205 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: Kier Starmer's showing up right now, the Prime Minister of 206 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: the United Kingdom, who should be excoriated for recognizing the 207 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: idea of Palestine as a state. 208 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 3: Deal with that. Later. I believe the Europeans are going. 209 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: To say, without question, you got to give up the 210 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 2: land because we need to keep the Russians at bay. 211 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: And if you do that, well, you're not going to 212 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 3: be a NATO. 213 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: Officially a NATO partner, but you'll get more protection. We'll 214 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 2: have more security forces. We'll do this and we'll do that. 215 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: We'll make these investments. That's what's coming now. If you 216 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: would disagree with me, I want to hear it. I 217 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 2: want to hear it all eight three three four six 218 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: eight eight sixty sixty nine eight three three got Tony 219 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: Twitter x Tony Katz Tony at Tony kats dot com. 220 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 3: Tell me if you think I'm wrong. But that's where 221 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 3: I think this is going. 222 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: Make it stop, make the killing stop, because Russia cannot 223 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: last these Ukrainians all day long. It's not a debate. 224 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: So this is where I think it's going. This is 225 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: how I think it's gonna work. The pressure isn't gonna 226 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: come from the United States. The pressure is not gonna 227 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: come from the US. It's gonna come from Europe. I'm 228 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz Today. Playboy is moving 229 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: itself to Florida. Would you say in California? No, rational 230 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: person is staying in California. I mean, let's let's be clear. 231 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: The uh, how how would you describe this? 232 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 3: The uh? The action is way better in Florida. 233 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Tony Kats. 234 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 3: Tony Kats today. What's going on? Everybody good to be 235 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: with you. They're moving their headquarters. Now. Playboy isn't what 236 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 3: it used to be, but it's still a brand. 237 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: It still says something about America and to an extent, 238 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: Americana in a lot of ways. I think the more 239 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: you learn about you have to learn, the more you're like, oh, 240 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: good lord, but as a matter of iconography, very few 241 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: things have reached that level. They're going to move the 242 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 2: headquarters from LA to Miami Beach. They want to revitalize 243 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: the brand, and so therefore they think Miami is the 244 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: right city to do that. And of course Florida's business 245 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: friendly as opposed to California, which business what's the right 246 00:16:55,280 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: word sucks? That's right, that's it right there? So how 247 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 2: many more times does this have to happen? Maybe California 248 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: is like, you know what, we never wanted Playboy anyway, 249 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 2: We did everything we were gonna do in the. 250 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 3: Grotto, and now we're gonna have to drain that thing. No, no, no, 251 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 3: you don't have to drain the grotto. 252 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: You have to burn the grotto to the ground then 253 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 2: cover the whole thing with cement, because that is a 254 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: hasmad area is what is but businesses leaving California, No kidding. 255 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: I Rick Perry, the former governor of Texas, used to 256 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 2: discuss the fact that he would head to California every 257 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: few weeks, talk to businesses, try and get them to 258 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 2: come leave California, come to Texas. 259 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 3: Leave California, come to Texas. That was Rick Perry. That 260 00:17:55,320 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 3: was a while ago. Do governors do that any more? 261 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: Do they engage with any level of proactiveness to go 262 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: out there and attract I sometimes wonder if it's just 263 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: my state where I don't think enough is happening on 264 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 2: that local level, on that state level, or is it 265 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 2: everybody is anybody like, you know what? They're doing a 266 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: pretty good job. And I assume Florida is one place, 267 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 2: you know, at least for the political right, they're like, 268 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 2: you know what, DeSantis is actually getting things done. There's 269 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 2: a safe and security component, there's a business outreach component. 270 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 2: Greg Abbott, he's going after these Democrats who wouldn't engage 271 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: the vote on redistracting. He has been proactive about trying 272 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: to secure the border, even when Joe Biden said you 273 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 2: can't do that. He was taking fights to the Supreme Court. 274 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 3: Not bad. 275 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 2: We know that Brian Kemp in Georgia has very very 276 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: good popularity. 277 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 3: Governors used to be this place where you. 278 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: Look to as a proving ground in running for office. 279 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 3: Is anybody looking at a governor right now for the future. 280 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: I mean, never mind the Vans is gonna run, never 281 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 2: mind that Rubio is still there, even though he says 282 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: he's not gonna run a name for you two governors, 283 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: and that seems to be it, because I don't even 284 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 2: think Younkin from Virginia peers and other people's conversations, governor 285 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 2: no longer the place to make your bones. 286 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 3: This is Tony Katz today. 287 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: So the President of Finland, Alexander Stubb, just entered the 288 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: Oval and the Finland story and being part of this is. 289 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 3: Pretty interesting. Tony Katz. 290 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, You've got European leaders and Zelensky all 291 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 2: meeting at the White House. 292 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 3: Everybody is showing up. 293 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 2: The black suburbans are lined up and one by one 294 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 2: they're being received by Monica Crowley, who does this work 295 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 2: for the White House, and the flags of the respective 296 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: nations are brought out, one in a time as. 297 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: This world leader is received. This coming after the meeting with. 298 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump in Alaska where they decided 299 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: where Trump decided that it was a pivot, and the 300 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: pivot was from ceasefire to peace deal. I believe that 301 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: the European nations are there to in one voice, say 302 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: to Vladimir Zelenski, you're going to give up this land 303 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 2: and you're going to get security guarantees from US, and 304 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: we're going to at least keep this at bay for 305 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: maybe a decade, maybe longer, because maybe Putin will die. 306 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 2: But I think that's what's coming here. It is going 307 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:05,239 Speaker 2: to be a land give unless you know, you can 308 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: go the other way and say, what you're going to 309 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 2: get is some kind of outrageous European peacekeeping force where 310 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 2: they decide that this is what's valuable. But I brought 311 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 2: this up. I don't see that latter one. I see 312 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 2: it as the first one. 313 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 3: I brought this up because of Finland. 314 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 2: Finland was forever not in NATO North Atlantic Treaty organization, 315 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 2: which was created to deal with the Russian threat. Finland, 316 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: which shares the border with Russia, was never going to 317 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: poke the bear, and I mean literally not going to 318 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 2: poke the bear. That all changed, not as much with 319 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 2: the Russian invasion of Ukraine, but the recognition that under 320 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 2: Joe Biden, you didn't know if there was anybody there 321 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 2: to help. Certainly you already knew where Trump was on Ukraine. 322 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 2: You already knew that where some of this new right. 323 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: Whatever you I didn't even know what you call that, 324 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 3: where they were you couldn't trust Biden. The reason. 325 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: Europe got it back together is because they looked at 326 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: Biden and said, if we don't have American leadership, we 327 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: actually have to depend on ourselves, which made Trump's demand 328 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 2: of two percent of GDP all of a sudden look 329 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: like a deal. Remember Trump made that demand when he 330 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: was in office, and nations were like, you can't demand this, 331 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 2: and how dare you and why you ask us for 332 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 2: money after all these years? 333 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 3: And his answer was, we've been paid for you for forever. 334 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 3: Where are the deterrent? 335 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: You get to treat us like garbage, you get to 336 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: have unfair trade deals, we're paying for your security, and 337 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: then you have the audacity to engage Nordstream two to 338 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 2: get oil from the Russians to fund them going after you. 339 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 2: What are we all insane? It was a very rational 340 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 2: point of you from President Trump. Now, I don't totally 341 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 2: ascribe to the view because while indeed the Europeans don't 342 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 2: show you the respect that they damn well should, on. 343 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 3: That part we agreed. 344 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: I believe you still want to be the top dog, 345 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 2: and you don't ever want to show yourself as not 346 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: or willing to walk away from the position because others 347 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: fill the void. What we saw was the Europeans saying, 348 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 2: I guess we're gonna take care of ourselves. And so 349 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 2: when Trump started talking about five percent of GDP to NATO, 350 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: having every NATO nation giving five percent to the NATO alliance, 351 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: of course the United States would give more because our 352 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: GDP is so much larger. You saw Mark Root, the 353 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: Secretary General of NATO, say absolutely, this is fantastic. Trump 354 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: is daddy, right, That's how that whole thing comes together, 355 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: because he knows this is good Fernado, and he doesn't 356 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 2: mind being in charge, because being the Secretary General of 357 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 2: the North Atlantic Treaty Organization is a really good title. 358 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 3: Like in a world of titles. 359 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: That's President of the United States, Secretary General of the 360 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 2: North Atlantic Treaty Organization, Master of all steaks, right, those 361 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 2: are my I don't know I invented the third one. 362 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 3: That's a dream. 363 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: That is a dream Steaks and then game show hosts, 364 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 2: which I would give up everything in radio to be 365 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: a game show host. I don't even know what I'm doing. 366 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: What is the point of all this? Immediately I should 367 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 2: be saying we need to bring back jokers wild. I 368 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 2: am so ready, look at Steve Harvey family feud making 369 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: nine bajillion dollars. 370 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 3: I'll take four and a half pajillion dollar. You know what, 371 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 3: three bajillion dollars. I don't want to negotiate against myself, 372 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 3: but I'll do it. You a y out, Yeah, I'm 373 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 3: holding firm at three bajillion. So much money, so much money. 374 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 3: The Finns. 375 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 2: See that Biden isn't there, so maybe America is not there. 376 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 2: They join NATO because with this expansion of power that 377 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: is putin, this can get ugly quick. Maybe we want 378 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 2: a few more people on our side. Now you've got 379 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 2: the prime minister I believe it, is it the prime 380 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 2: minister or the president of Germany coming next? Right there? Now, 381 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 2: that would be the prime minister. Now it'll be the 382 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: chancellor they do chancellors or over there in Germany that 383 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 2: would be shores as sc. 384 00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 3: Chr Z I believe or is it in his Murz? 385 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 2: Sorry Murz, sorry, apologies, uh Friedrich Murz m e Rz 386 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 2: who has just now appeared at the White House. So 387 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 2: this is gonna keep going. Now, is there gonna be 388 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 2: some group meeting? They're all gonna be sitting around a table. 389 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, but nobody has discussed the optics. Here, 390 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 2: allow me for a moment, compare this to Joe Biden. 391 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: Joe Biden couldn't run his own cabinet meetings. Joe Biden 392 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 2: ran the cat last cabinet meeting. 393 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 3: You saw it with your own eyes. And here's Donald Trump. 394 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 2: He flies to Alaska, he sits for two and a 395 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 2: half hours with Vladimir Putin. They have a press conference. Afterwards, 396 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 2: he gets on a plane. He doesn't take a nap. 397 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 2: He's calling every single one one of these leaders and 398 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 2: he's talking me an hour plus to the Lelenski gets home. 399 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 2: I think it was to Bedminster. There his golf course 400 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: there in in New Jersey. And five hours later he's golfing. 401 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 3: And now here we have, just two. 402 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: Days later, everybody coming to see him. And here he's 403 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 2: going to sit at this table. Everyone's going to be 404 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 2: around the table, engaged in. Look at what Trump is 405 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 2: doing to try and bring everybody together to get peace. 406 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 3: The UN couldn't do this, The UN couldn't. 407 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: Dream of this. Then again, the UN has never met 408 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 2: a death spot. They didn't love I mean, you're talking 409 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: about an organization. 410 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 3: That supports Tomas so what do you expect. 411 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: The Left can try and you know, talk this stuff 412 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: down all they want, all they want, But I'm telling you, 413 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 2: the visual here is massive, absolutely incredible, undeniable. It doesn't 414 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,719 Speaker 2: mean they're gonna get a deal. I didn't say that. 415 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: I didn't say that that was going to happen. I 416 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 2: said that the look shows that Trump is the guy 417 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: in charge. 418 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 3: Trump is leading the world towards peace. 419 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: Trump is the guy who the other nations respect. Remember 420 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 2: when we were told we were laughed at under Trump 421 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: and they said, oh, Trump doesn't have any respect to 422 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: no other nation like here it is. And I swear 423 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: to if he feeds these people McDonald's, I'm gonna be 424 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: overjoyed because the Prime Sir of Italy Maloney will totally 425 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 2: totally go down, down and enjoy a big mac. Absolutely 426 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: go to town on that. That girl is fantastic. And oh, 427 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get so many hits for calling her girl. 428 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 2: Oh my god, but have you seen. 429 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 3: Her eye rolls? 430 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: Have you seen her eye rolls? Hey, please don't get 431 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: upset with me for calling her girl. I'll call Eric 432 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: Swawall girl too. Would that be all right? 433 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 3: Was that better had to pull myself out of what 434 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 3: I had created. That's my fault. 435 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: Maloney has shown herself to be tough as nails. The 436 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: eye rolls the what is wrong with all you people? 437 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: The total lack of leadership, and she shows it so often. 438 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: She shows that she so appreciates concepts of strength. It's great, 439 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: it is great. Let me get let me as this 440 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 2: is still happening and leaders are still a I bring you. 441 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 3: The gold rush. 442 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 2: The gold rush taking place right now in South Dakota. 443 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 2: So gold is more than three thousand dollars an ounce, 444 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: and so people are now returning to South Dakota looking 445 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 2: for gold. And you say to me, gold rush, isn't 446 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: that California? The forty nine ers and everything else? Well, 447 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 2: the Black Hills have one point two million acres extending 448 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: into Wyoming, and it seems that gold mines there are 449 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 2: starting to be gold mines. People are showing up, they're exploring. 450 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 2: Companies have proposals before state and federal agencies, and they're 451 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: trying to put another gold mine in. 452 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 3: So Native Americans. 453 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 2: Environmentalists arguing that the projects are close to sacred sites, 454 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 2: are going to contaminate waterways and permanently scar the landscape. 455 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 3: Two things here. 456 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 2: First, the environmentalist will be pushed to the side. Secondly, 457 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 2: the Native American tribes will be paid off. 458 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 3: And I would argue rightfully, so, I. 459 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 2: Believe it's Alaska that in the drilling that takes place there, 460 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 2: the people get to participate in the success financial success 461 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 2: that creates. 462 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 3: I have zero issue with if you. 463 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: Are part of the tribe from that area, you participating 464 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 2: in that. I really don't of all the things that 465 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 2: we can fight about, I don't know if that one's 466 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 2: the one to fight about. I think that's the gimme. 467 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 2: If you say to me, Tony, is that reparations? It's 468 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 2: an interesting, interesting question. I would argue that America has 469 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 2: a history here regarding Native Americans, and I don't know 470 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: if I have the answer for how one fixes that. 471 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 3: Now. 472 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 2: I could go a little bit stronger in this the 473 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 2: a gold mine belongs to the state, and therefore the 474 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 2: people of the state should. 475 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 3: Be able to benefit from it, not just the tribe. 476 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 3: And as I think. 477 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 2: About it here with you, that's probably the better answer, 478 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 2: and I think that's how these things are going to 479 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 2: come to be. I don't think the environmentalist is going 480 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 2: to win this fight. There's a there's a push on 481 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 2: for gold. You have it, go get it, and there 482 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 2: are ways to do these things. I'm Tony Katz. This 483 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 2: is Tony kats Today. World leaders keep arriving at the 484 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 2: White House, and. 485 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 3: It looks like. 486 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 2: Is that the side there A Zelenski might be showing 487 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 2: up separately, coming from a different entrance actually to be 488 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 2: greeted by President Trump. 489 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 3: We will keep and I on. 490 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 2: That MSNBC ladies and gentlemen, they have got a new name. 491 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 5: We will become MS now, which stands from my source 492 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 5: for news, opinion and the world. 493 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 3: And look, Andrew, they even have a. 494 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 5: Graphic up I like there it is actually look the 495 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 5: graphic was drawn by my seven year old cousin. 496 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 3: He's a good kid. He's good. Never hasn't been the 497 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 3: same since the accident. But uh, the this logo was 498 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 3: done in Microsoft word. 499 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, remember like a couple of months ago, 500 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 6: I had a couple people getting on my case about 501 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 6: my logo. My logo is Da Vinci Michael Angelo making 502 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 6: a baby with Salvador Dali. And to throw a little 503 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 6: bit at Edward Hopper in there, because I love me 504 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 6: some Hopper. 505 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 2: Compared to what Microsoft or MS did whatever, This is 506 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: my source news opinion. 507 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 3: Weather is that way was that it was that what 508 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 3: he called it? Hold on suit again. 509 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 5: We will become MS now, which stands for my source 510 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 5: for news opinion and the world and look and and 511 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 5: the world drew. 512 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 3: They even have a graphic up I like there. 513 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 2: It is at you like that, You think that's really 514 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 2: a avant garde chic. 515 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 3: It is. 516 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 2: It is a blue kind of background and it looks 517 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 2: like it's got a little wave in it, and then 518 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 2: the end of it right and so the left side 519 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 2: is straight and it's a rectangle, and on the right 520 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 2: side it's got a little bit of a a carrot, 521 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 2: like a little bit of an indentation, and then it 522 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 2: has two orange lines in it that are a little 523 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 2: bit offset from each other, like an equal sign. 524 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know. I'm gonna have to play. 525 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 2: Into the negative spaces and see what they're trying to 526 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 2: tell me in between the lines news opinion and the 527 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 2: world only one opinion though not opinions opinion. You really 528 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 2: put that one right on the nose. Oh good lord, 529 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 2: keep it here. This is Tony Katz Today. Find everything 530 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 2: at Tony kats dot com.