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Speaker 1: Everything getting underway this Saturday college football, and I realized, yes,

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Speaker 1: It was so cool, but at the same time it

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Speaker 1: it up? It begins with Old Dominion coming up this Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Don Fisher is the voice of the Hoosiers and joins

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Speaker 1: us on they always busy and now available again to

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Speaker 1: be sponsored guest line. Let's get to the important stuff first, though,

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Speaker 1: and that is I heard you on with J ANDB

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Speaker 1: on Friday and you were getting ready to go out

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Speaker 1: Scott Fisher's team, Edgewood taking on Mitchell and from what

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Speaker 1: I could tell, and I was at IndyCar up in Milwaukee,

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Speaker 1: but I checked scores, looked like it was a pretty

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Speaker 2: Well, it was a better Friday night than some of

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Speaker 2: the Friday nights I've spent the last couple of years

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Speaker 3: But no, there was no doubt they played pretty well.

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Speaker 3: They've got a young team.

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Speaker 2: Scott has talked about these kids since they were in

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Speaker 2: eighth grade, some of them. They've got a really good

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Speaker 3: They're still young.

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Speaker 2: They've got a bunch of juniors and sophomores that are

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Speaker 2: making up a good portion of the starting lineups on.

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Speaker 3: Both sides of the football. And these kids have come

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Speaker 2: Last year I went and saw most of these kids

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Speaker 3: And man if their body change.

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Speaker 2: They've got a good strength and conditioning program now and

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Speaker 3: Good football team this year.

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Speaker 2: I would expect that they've got a good chance to

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Speaker 2: be five hundred or better. And next year it could

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Speaker 1: You know, it's so interesting, don because and there's a

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Speaker 1: reason I bring this up as we talk about IU.

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Speaker 1: But like at the high school level, for example, there

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Speaker 1: are so many teams, maybe basketball more than football. But

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Speaker 1: sure it helps to have great athletes, right. I mean

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Speaker 1: that goes without saying, but but you can win games

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Speaker 2: And certainly at Edgewood they struggle for many years. They

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Speaker 2: two years ago. This is his third season. He started

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Speaker 2: like I said, last year or this year, juniors and sophomores.

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Speaker 2: And you've watched it grow. Last year they were better

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Speaker 1: Edge what a thirty eight to nothing winner over Mitchell

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Speaker 2: Well, Fernando is a talent, There's no question about that.

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Speaker 2: You could just tell that he'd gone through some travel

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Speaker 3: But here's the thing. The guy can run like a deer.

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Speaker 2: He's six five, two hundred and twenty five pounds and

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Speaker 2: I'm not putting anything negative on that from that standpoint.

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Speaker 2: They haven't seen it yet, so but I do think

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Speaker 1: And Don I really like And I want you to

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Speaker 1: tell me, Don Fisher, the voice of the Hoosiers is

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Speaker 1: liked EJ. Williams a lot when he was a young

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Speaker 1: I really like the receiving room. I feel like he's

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Speaker 2: In fact, you know, last year, nobody knew how deep

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Speaker 2: how good some of those other receivers were a Miles

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Speaker 3: That's not the case. I mean, EJ. Williams is a talent,

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Speaker 3: There's no question.

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Speaker 2: His only problem in Indiana has been that he hasn't

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Speaker 3: Than it was a year ago.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think there's any question they've got tons

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Speaker 1: Don Where is the part of Indiana that is a

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: The biggest, probably the biggest question Mark would be the

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Speaker 3: CJ.

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Speaker 2: West is gone, James Carpenter's gone. Two of the best

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Speaker 2: those guys graduated there out of I think CJ. West

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Speaker 3: All I know is that those are the spots.

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Speaker 1: The time is here for Indiana football. You have been

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Speaker 5: trying to trying to make for an interesting podcast. But

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Speaker 5: to your to your point, no, I didn't ask Christian

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Speaker 5: to do anything differently. He's you know, we pay him

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Speaker 5: to drive a race car and and to go out

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Speaker 5: and be fast and be successful. And that's one of

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Speaker 5: the things we love about him is, you know, quite frankly,

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Speaker 5: he doesn't take crap from anybody, And you know he

446
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Speaker 5: wants to be successful and win races, and we're not

447
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Speaker 5: out there to make friends all the time. We're out

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Speaker 5: there to get results, and you know that's that's the

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Speaker 5: way he drives, and we're we're happy with that.

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Speaker 1: Lastly, ed for you. You know, it looks as though and

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Speaker 1: you tell me, and I don't know before me, I'm

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Speaker 1: saying this kind of off the cuff, but I'm under

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Speaker 1: the understanding or assumption that both Alexander Rossi and Christian

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Speaker 1: Rasmus center locked in for you for next year. Is

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Speaker 1: that a fair statement.

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Speaker 3: They're both under contract?

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay? And so is there a good feeling of

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Speaker 1: not every team has this of like kind of that

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Speaker 1: stability of knowing like, okay, we have a foundation here

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Speaker 1: that we can build upon, assuming that you are planning

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Speaker 1: on having both of those guys back under the contract,

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Speaker 1: And in addition to that, how much do you keep

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Speaker 1: an eye on the silly season quote unquote of movement

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Speaker 1: or potential movement elsewhere?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I've definitely haven't had my finger on the

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Speaker 5: pulse of silly season like I have in other years

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Speaker 5: when when we know we have a hole to fill,

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Speaker 5: you know, with that being said, you're always paying attention

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Speaker 5: and it's constantly talked about at the racetrack, so it's

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Speaker 5: hard to not know what's going on behind the scenes.

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Speaker 5: But no, really happy with the pairing we have, you know,

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Speaker 5: I think they get along very well. You know, if

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Speaker 5: you haven't seen the clip of Alex greeting Christian and

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Speaker 5: Victory Lane, you should find it. He was the first

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Speaker 5: person there beat everyone else on the team there. They've

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Speaker 5: got a great relationship. They're very complimentary of each each other,

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Speaker 5: you know, in the car and out of the car.

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Speaker 5: Their strengths and weaknesses complement each other well, you know.

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Speaker 5: So I think we've got a great thing going with

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Speaker 5: the two of them, and don't see any reason to

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Speaker 5: to be considering doing anything different.

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Speaker 1: H So, by the way, I'm assuming that in the

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Speaker 1: buy one, get one, you're going with the Do you

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Speaker 1: go with the hydration or are you simply going with

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Speaker 1: the Wrangler energy.

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Speaker 5: I don't do a whole lot of the Wrangler as

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Speaker 5: much as some of my teammates here, but yeah, I

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Speaker 5: drink I drink Colombian. We buy a lot of the

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Speaker 5: liquid science in my household, both my boys or athletes crews.

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Speaker 5: My youngest especially likes like that, so that's constantly in

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Speaker 5: the rotation. So yeah, I'm with you on Colombian. Also

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Speaker 5: get black tea. My wife drinks a lot of green tea. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: so we we also appreciate when when the race team

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Speaker 5: does well and the discounts are available.

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Speaker 1: The white peach green tea is the way to go.

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Speaker 1: The white peach green tea is like, that's all so

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Speaker 1: very solid. Buy would get one? Eddie Garrison, I might

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Speaker 1: buy you some How's that sounds good? I would love

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Speaker 1: some of that paht. I'm telling you, man, it's awesome

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Speaker 1: kind of stuff. By wouldn't get one at Java House

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Speaker 1: dot com on the peel and poor pods. You mix

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Speaker 1: them with water instantly with eight ounces and you got

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Speaker 1: a beverage right there, and it is code E c

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Speaker 1: R to get that buy one, get one special. Ed

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Speaker 1: appreciate it as always, man. Congratulations on the wind.

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Speaker 5: Thank you guys. Talk to you all right.

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Speaker 1: Ed Carpenter joining us on the programming two o'clock hour

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Speaker 1: Underway Colt's getting a win in their pre season finale

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Speaker 1: over Cincinnati, and Riley Leonard was kind of the star

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Speaker 1: of the show. Ulyssen is Bentley the fourth though. Thank

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Speaker 1: you to all who pointed out to me not one

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Speaker 1: but two touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: For Yeah, she list has bent.

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Speaker 1: And I can do the voice because he approved of

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Speaker 1: the voice, right.

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Speaker 6: Eddie, he did last week.

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Speaker 4: He gave you a nice little laugh too, because I

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Speaker 4: don't think he was expecting that type of voice.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 7: Yes, your list has played well, wish I'll see if

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Speaker 7: he makes the roster joining us now a guy that

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Speaker 7: sounds a little like that as well. He is, of

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Speaker 7: course with CBS four and WXA N Fox fifty nine.

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Speaker 7: Mike Chappel, the dean of writers for the Colts chaplet's

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Speaker 7: begin with this. Now that we have gone through camp,

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Speaker 7: now that we've gone through the three preseason games, is

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Speaker 7: there anybody that you look at and you say, gosh,

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Speaker 7: I did not have on my bingo card that this

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Speaker 7: guy would be in the discussion on cutday, either on

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Speaker 7: the right or wrong side of things.

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Speaker 1: Anybody jump out.

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Speaker 3: Of you, good question.

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Speaker 6: No, I don't think so. I think there's a few

534
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Speaker 6: familiar names that'll be let go. I think Chilanie Woods

535
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Speaker 6: was the draft pick, second day draft pick three years ago.

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Speaker 6: He's been the last few years of injuries. I think

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Speaker 6: Will Mallory and Drew Ogiltree beat him out. No, I

538
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Speaker 6: think Daniel Scott's a great story. That was he a

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Speaker 6: fifth round pick in twenty three. That's Massachusetts first two

540
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Speaker 6: seasons with an acl and achilles, and then he gets

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Speaker 6: a pick six. He's helped out immensely, as are a

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Speaker 6: couple other players by Justin Walley having the season ending

543
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Speaker 6: injury at corner and Hunter Wohler was going to make

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Speaker 6: this roster at safety and now he's got the season

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Speaker 6: and the foot injury. So no, not really. There'll be

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Speaker 6: somebody say, oh, I see that, like a maybe an

547
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Speaker 6: undrafted rookie corner makes Jonathan Edwards or Alec Johnson or both.

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Speaker 6: I think they're undrafted. I get my guys at the

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Speaker 6: bottom of roster, mixed up linebacker. I'd like to know

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Speaker 6: what they're going to do. And one thing that I

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Speaker 6: will I just mentioned all the time when they cut

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Speaker 6: the fifty three tomorrow, it is not the final roster.

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Speaker 6: It's the roster to get the fifty three. There's going

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Speaker 6: to be one or two players, I'm not sure more

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Speaker 6: than that they'll claim. On the way, you're gonna find

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Speaker 6: somebody better at offensive line, I think, and either safety

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Speaker 6: or or linebacker, maybe running back. I and against injuries

558
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Speaker 6: are going to muck this up with Nick Cross and

559
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Speaker 6: Tyler Goodson and Khalil Herbert, those are going to make

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Speaker 6: a mess on the I R M on cut day,

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Speaker 6: which means they miss four weeks. Do you carry him

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Speaker 6: and then put them on I R. So there's decisions.

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Speaker 6: I just don't think there's gonna be a guy like Man.

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Speaker 6: I didn't see that because I think what is semi

565
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Speaker 6: good is this roster isn't a place that you shouldn't

566
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Speaker 6: have a couple of guys come out of the blue

567
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Speaker 6: and win a spot. Again. This this team has issues,

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Speaker 6: but by and large, the roster doesn't have a lot

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Speaker 6: of spots where a guy on there now is going

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Speaker 6: to make it and be there at opening Again, I

571
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Speaker 6: could I could see a guy making it tomorrow and

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Speaker 6: then be waived on Wedndsay or Thursday and brought brought

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Speaker 6: back to the practice squad. So but I'm curious how

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Speaker 6: it goes because what they do, too will tell us

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Speaker 6: how serious some of these injuries to three or four

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Speaker 6: of these players are.

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Speaker 1: Chap When you look at the quarterback position. And the

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Speaker 1: sad thing is when I talk about the hyperbole or

579
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Speaker 1: the the over enthusiasm we could have for the way

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Speaker 1: a guy plays, and Ryler Leonard and what he did

581
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Speaker 1: against since Andy he looked good. Don't get me wrong,

582
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Speaker 1: but sure we're in year nine of the of ballad

583
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Speaker 1: and it's like we're talking about the third string guy

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Speaker 1: and whether or not he can unseat somebody that was

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Speaker 1: not unseen. But you get what I'm saying. Could could

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Speaker 1: they go and put him on the fifty three man

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Speaker 1: to avoid and to protect him like from practice squad

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Speaker 1: for example, of somebody else getting him? Talking about Rylan

589
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Speaker 1: Leonard and if so, can we is it fair for

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Speaker 1: us to speculate what that means midway through the year

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Speaker 1: of what they could do with Richardson?

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Speaker 6: I don't think the two are connected, but I do

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Speaker 6: think they carry him on the fifty three because somebody,

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Speaker 6: somebody will claim him. They will. He's shown enough and

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Speaker 6: if nothing else, he has showed enough a developmental potential

596
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Speaker 6: that someone will grab him. But I just, barring barring injuries,

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Speaker 6: he's not going to play this year. I just I

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Speaker 6: don't see a scenario. And we've seen some pretty bad

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Speaker 6: scenarios twenty twenty two keeps cutting to my mind and

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Speaker 6: it makes me crazy. But I just don't see a

601
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Speaker 6: scenario of, barring injuries, they get the number three. I

602
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Speaker 6: just don't. It would serve no purpose. And I and again,

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Speaker 6: maybe I'm proven wrong. I've been wrong in the past

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Speaker 6: many times. I just don't see them trading Anthony and Richardson.

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Speaker 6: It would go against everything they say. You know, yes,

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Speaker 6: they've benched him twice in nine or ten months twice

607
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Speaker 6: and all of that, but they've also said, hey, listen,

608
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Speaker 6: you know some players develop slower than others or whatever,

609
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Speaker 6: and we think this guy's got to possibly the possibility

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Speaker 6: of being a really really good player. Boy to take

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Speaker 6: a fifth or sixth round pick for that. I'm not

612
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Speaker 6: a big fan of fifth and sixth round picks in general.

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Speaker 6: And we've all confined players who are pretty darn good

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Speaker 6: in there. But one thing they don't want is there

615
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Speaker 6: and be in Sam Darnold or Baker Mayfield. But they

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Speaker 6: don't want to give up on him quite yet. I

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Speaker 6: just don't see a scenario.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't they already have they?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I mean when they come out and say when the

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Speaker 1: quarterback coach comes out and says, and I'm paraphrasing, but

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Speaker 1: basically what he says is, look, I've tried about everything

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Speaker 1: here and he's still not the starter and and it's

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Speaker 1: not for lack and I get it, he's been hurt.

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Speaker 1: And I want to make very clear I don't think

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson's a bad guy. I don't think anybody thinks

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00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: that this guy's a bad guy. But the Colts, for

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Speaker 1: whatever reason they have at this point, they have basically

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Speaker 1: tipped their hand over and over to say, look, guys,

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Speaker 1: I don't tell you we tried everything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I.

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Speaker 6: Don't disagree, And you can make you can make them

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Speaker 6: much stronger argument with that than I can. I just

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Speaker 6: I just can't see them getting rid of him. Let's

635
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Speaker 6: say you do that in the game too, that Jones

636
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Speaker 6: gets gets hurt. You're in good at righty Leonard? No,

637
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Speaker 6: of course not. And that's not a knock on Rightdley

638
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Speaker 6: Leonard at all. We need to keep in context that

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00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 6: what Leonard did yes on Saturday was with backups, not

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Speaker 6: even backups, dirt stringers against dirt stringers, which, if you're

641
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 6: a good player, Isaiah Land, if you're a good player

642
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Speaker 6: when you're in that situation, dominate and that's kind of

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Speaker 6: what he did. So no, you're exactly right. They've given

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Speaker 6: absolutely they can say what they want, just gives him

645
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 6: a chance to sit and watch. That's Garby. I don't

646
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Speaker 6: believe that. Most people say the best way to learn

647
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 6: and grow is to play.

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Speaker 1: You know what to play, chap Let me ask you this.

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Speaker 1: If the Colts don't trade Anthony Richardson, do you d

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Speaker 1: during the season deep down? Do you believe that is

651
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Speaker 1: because they still believe he can be something for them,

652
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Speaker 1: or because they are or is it more so they're

653
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Speaker 1: paranoid he could be something for someone else?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Uh.

657
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 6: Well, and again, if we get the Mids when the

658
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 6: trading did not is October or whatever, I think there's

659
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 6: a chance he played, he's starting before then, whether Jones

660
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 6: gets hurt, whether Jones just doesn't play well, if Dan

661
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 6: Jones is not playing well, and again, look at Doug Gun,

662
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 6: look look at the schedule. If these guys believe and

663
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 6: they believe that, they and I believe, they've got a

664
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 6: playoff level roster, not super Bowl but playoff level, and

665
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 6: you've got what Miami Denver you should have been in

666
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 6: Denver last year in Denver, Tennessee. You know the Rams

667
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 6: will be tough. But then the Raiders at home, Arizona,

668
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 6: at home.

669
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: Uh, Atlanta, I mean outside of the chap outside of

670
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: Kansas City and maybe San Francisco. I don't know that

671
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: there's anybody on their roster that you that jumps out

672
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: and you go, WHOA, Right, No.

673
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 6: The Rams and Chargers on the road are tough, obviously,

674
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 6: but no, That's what I'm saying is it's everything is

675
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 6: together for these guys if they get and we've talked

676
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 6: about it, if they just get confident plus one quarterback

677
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 6: play whatever whatever that is, do your job, make those plays,

678
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 6: don't do anything special, and the rest of the roster

679
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 6: should be good enough. Uh that's what I I don't

680
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 6: it would go against that to get rid of a

681
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 6: a proof what what what?

682
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 3: Right? Now?

683
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 6: Is one of the better backup backup quarterbacks in the league.

684
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 6: With all of his flaws and you know, you never

685
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 6: know what you get. He still played at a pretty

686
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 6: good level at times. So to dump him now and

687
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 6: watch my in point of minutes, there'll be a note

688
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 6: that they've traded him. I'm kidding. Please, let's not do that.

689
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 6: But but I just think it goes against them thinking

690
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 6: they can they can contend for something. Because as much

691
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 6: as as much as Richardson is one play away or

692
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 6: a couple of bad games away from being the starter,

693
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 6: then that means Ridley Leonard is that close. And I

694
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 6: think he's got potential, will be a decent player, probably

695
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 6: a backup, I don't know. I don't know if he's

696
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 6: a starter in the future, but a pretty good player.

697
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 6: But you can't pin your your your season hopes on

698
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 6: a rookie, a late rookie, a third day rookie. So

699
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,479
Speaker 6: and again you can argue a lot more because they've

700
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 6: given you no reason. They've given us or Richardson very

701
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 6: little reason to think they believe in him. They did,

702
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 6: they just haven't. But but boy, I just wouldn't get

703
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 6: rid of him. I would be. I would be concerned,

704
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 6: not so much right away that he's going to go

705
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 6: somewhere and play well, because he's still I had hoped

706
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 6: kid made it, would have made some further progress with

707
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 6: it with it quarterbacking during the offseason that I don't

708
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 6: think he has. But in a couple of years maybe,

709
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 6: But it's more like like right now, they're going with

710
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 6: Jones because they believe Jones gives them a better chance

711
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 6: to win right now, Shane Steikin's not worried about twenty

712
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 6: twenty six. He is not, and he shouldn't be, so

713
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 6: I and you can just rip me a new one

714
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 6: within a month. They trade Richardson, and I say, yeah,

715
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 6: you got me on that on Jake, but I just

716
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 6: don't see it happening.

717
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: Okay, let's throw this out and I mentioned this earlier chap,

718
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,959
Speaker 1: and we're going to see if great minds think alike. Okay, yep,

719
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: and then we have to determine which of the two

720
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: of us actually has a great mind. But they were

721
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: to trade him, if we're strictly in the world of

722
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: hypotheticals here, okay, if Anthony Richardson is to be traded,

723
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: what is his market value right now? What would be

724
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: a fair and reasonable expectation for Indianapolis to request to

725
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: get for him.

726
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 6: A third day pick. I just can't see getting more

727
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 6: than a four or five because are people are getting.

728
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 6: People know what they're getting, and they're banking on where

729
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 6: we can fix How many times do you see, well

730
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 6: we can fix him. We can do what this team

731
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 6: couldn't do. I remember the Colts getting Darius awould Bay, Well,

732
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 6: we can get him to quit dropping the football. Well, no,

733
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 6: you could, right, you couldn't end up being a really

734
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 6: good special teams player.

735
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 3: Got a five.

736
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 6: I don't know a five.

737
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: I keep going back to, you know, and I said,

738
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: this is what I said earlier, So obviously I overestimated it.

739
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: My benchmark has always been Chap. You know when they

740
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: traded Marshall Falk and Falk at that point, I mean,

741
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: he was in his prime. But at the same time

742
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: some thought maybe there was too much tread on the tires.

743
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: Obviously there was not. He went onto prolific things with

744
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: the Rams. But they got a two and a five, right,

745
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: and that was Marshall Falk.

746
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 6: Yep, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. And

747
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 6: they got they got some new I think it was

748
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 6: who they get that was Mike Peterson who they got

749
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 6: out of that.

750
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: I am so proud that I know this, Chap. Matter

751
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: of fact, I teed that up just so as hoping

752
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: you would ask Mike Peterson and Brad Scioli.

753
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 6: Right, that's no, that's not that's not Marshall faulk uh

754
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 6: but that that was but no, that that that just

755
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 6: shows well, we're going to get this. No you're not.

756
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 6: I just I just don't think that you would get

757
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 6: a quality draft pick for me if they would get

758
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 6: a third. I don't know what it would take me

759
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 6: to say, yeah, go ahead, we'll take that A second

760
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 6: or third. I don't know, because I part of me

761
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 6: wants to think that Richardson's going to get back in

762
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 6: there and play well this year, and I'll be I

763
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 6: think I'm dumb to think that. Again, all I've got

764
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 6: to go on are two seasons of teasing of him saying,

765
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 6: look what I can do, Look what I can do

766
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 6: when I've got it right. And here's what I can't do,

767
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 6: which primarily stay on the field.

768
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: Chap pick. Yeah, here's a nickname I came up with earlier. Okay, Now,

769
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: in my radio career, I mean, I've done this for

770
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: a fair amount of time, and I've only come up

771
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: with two things that I'm super proud of. But I

772
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: think this has potential to be the third. One of

773
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: them I came up with as a twenty twenty five guy.

774
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: You've probably heard me mention this. That's a guy in

775
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 1: the NBA that is destined to score twenty a game

776
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 1: for a twenty five win team his whole career. Okay,

777
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: like Larry was a twenty twenty five guy.

778
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: Okay.

779
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: The other thing I came up with that I'm pretty

780
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: proud of is that offensive lineman and cornerbacks in the

781
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: NFL are like sunglasses and cell phone chargers. You can

782
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: never have too many because you constantly, just when you

783
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: feel good about it, either lose one or one breaks. Okay,

784
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: here's my third, and I want you to tell me

785
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong on this. I determined that Anthony Richardson

786
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: is a Ferris Bueller quarterback. And by that I don't

787
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: mean that he takes days off, which he might. But

788
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: in the movie Ferris Bueller, there's the famous line where

789
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: the girl says, Oh, I heard he's really sick. My

790
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: best friend's cousin's next door neighbors uncle ran into the

791
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: postman last night at thirty three flavors. And that's what

792
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson has become. And by that, I mean everybody

793
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: has a theory on something they heard, on something he

794
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: did or didn't do. That is the reason he's in

795
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: the doghouse. And has fallen from grace and that's a

796
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: dangerous place to be because even if it's not accurate,

797
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: you can never get out of it. But am I

798
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: wrong about that perception of him?

799
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 6: Maybe I just I try not to listen to too much

800
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 6: of that. I'm around the building a lot a lot

801
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 6: of us are, and I don't get the feeling that

802
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 6: the team is it is saying, well, what you need

803
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 6: to do this more, you need to do that more.

804
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 6: Now that was the case last year with him being benched,

805
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 6: which is totally totally on the team. How do you

806
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 6: let it get to that point to where you let

807
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 6: him slide on what he's not doing? Now that's I

808
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 6: don't think that's the case. I think he worked his

809
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 6: ass off in the off season. I think he's worked

810
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 6: hard in training camp. I think he's done the right things.

811
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 6: And again with Cam Turner saying kind of like I've

812
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 6: done all I can do. I don't know if that's

813
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 6: an indictment on Anthony Richardson or on the quarterback cause right,

814
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 6: I don't know, and it could be it's probably a

815
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 6: little bit of both. I just think, again, all we

816
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 6: have to now again, one thing that changed, I can

817
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 6: kept harping on is why why did you pick Daniel Jones? Well?

818
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 6: O the process, organizational operational. You know, he's got control

819
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 6: of the line, and whenever coaches say that to me,

820
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 6: it's it's the other guy isn't doing isn't doing that?

821
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 6: So so Richardson lacks operational control and line of scrimmage

822
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 6: control and in communication which when he when he had

823
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 6: the dislocated finger, he didn't recognize a basic blitz and

824
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 6: he got blown up. So there's something there. And I

825
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 6: think I think that play had something to do with

826
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 6: with with Shane Styck can sink Man. This is his

827
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,959
Speaker 6: third year and he didn't see that. But I don't

828
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 6: know that that's from Richardson not putting in the work.

829
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 6: Maybe it's just that he's not like that. Maybe he

830
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 6: just doesn't you know, that stuff doesn't register with him

831
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 6: like like you you would wanted to with a quarterback

832
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 6: who has to have aggress of everything. Uh So yeah,

833
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 6: I it's really hard when you start projecting. I just

834
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 6: think I just think he's not he's not progressed the

835
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 6: way they anticipated, the way they needed. Uh and and

836
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 6: they decided we can't, we can't. It wouldn't it's not

837
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 6: gonna be fair to this roster to put him out

838
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 6: there and and and cross our fingers and hope we

839
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 6: get the good register who stays on the field, and

840
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 6: which again is an indictment of Richardson when they would

841
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 6: prefer to go with Jones, who you kind of know

842
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 6: what you're gonna get, And if he was on any

843
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 6: other team, and that team chose Richardo, chose Jones over

844
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 6: a young talented guy with with all with perhaps a

845
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 6: great future, you'd say, man, they just don't trust that guy,

846
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 6: do they. And they're gonna trust this guy. That's the problem.

847
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 6: You're You're you're trusting a guy who had who had

848
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 6: one good year with the Giants, and it wasn't it

849
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 6: wasn't a my guy. He was an All trople. It

850
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 6: was a good year. I'm not going to diminish it. And

851
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 6: made the playoffs, won a playoff game, I think on

852
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 6: the road as a matter of fact. But he's still

853
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 6: twenty games under five hundred. He's still three and thirteen

854
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 6: in his last sixteen. And yes, the Giants did him

855
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 6: no favors, no favors with offensive linemen, with quality receivers

856
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 6: until they got neighbors this past year. But at some

857
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 6: level the quarterback has to whether it's fifty to fifty

858
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 6: sixty four or whatever, the quarterback plays into the responsibility.

859
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 6: And they chose that over Richardson. I understand it. I

860
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 6: think that's more of an indictment on Anthony Richardson than

861
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 6: it is praise for Daniel Jones.

862
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: Listen, Chap, I'm going to repeat what I said last

863
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: week the movie The Sixth Sense with Bruce willis you know,

864
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: I see dead people. Open disclaimer here, Okay, I want

865
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: to give everybody fair warning if you've not seen the

866
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: movie and you've not taken advantage of the last thirty

867
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: two years and so yeah, you know, I don't want

868
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: to give a spoiler alert here. But at the end

869
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: of the movie there is a major reveal of like

870
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: that you should have seen, and then it shows you

871
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Speaker 1: this montage where you're like, oh my gosh, how did

872
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Speaker 1: I not see it?

873
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 6: How did I not How many pieces of breadcrumbs did

874
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Speaker 6: they drop?

875
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Speaker 3: Correct? Right, You're exactly right.

876
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: And with that, with this, Shane Stikeen has been telling

877
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Speaker 1: us for a year, like, guys, listen, I'm telling you

878
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 1: this guy that he's not doing what I want him

879
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: to and then.

880
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 6: But let's keep them You're right, and let's keep in

881
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 6: mind though that Shane Stiken had a big hand in

882
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 6: drafting Anthony Richardson, so you know, he and Chris Bawdle

883
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 6: and Jim Mercy, but they had to agree that this

884
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Speaker 6: was the guy they were going with.

885
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Speaker 1: But I go back to chap and you tell me

886
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: if i'm and I realized Stikeen had you know, he

887
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: was a big part of the development of Jalen Hurts

888
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: and you know, and Kyler Murray for that matter, I

889
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 1: think it wasn't Kyler Murray. Who's the other one he had,

890
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Speaker 1: Cam Turner's the one that had Kyler Murray.

891
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert Herbert.

892
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Speaker 1: Okay, thanks Leon Hurts and jail and Hurts. That's what

893
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Speaker 1: I said. But but here's the thing. I realized that Stikeen,

894
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Speaker 1: and you know, Steven and I talked also about the

895
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Speaker 1: fact that stike In was very on board with it.

896
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Speaker 1: But I also go back to it. I'm going to

897
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Speaker 1: give Stikeen a little bit of a pass here. He

898
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Speaker 1: was two months on the job, So how much could

899
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Speaker 1: he really have spoken up out and against like Ballard

900
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Speaker 1: or Ersa. I'm maybe he could have, but did wasn't

901
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Speaker 1: in his best interest to kind of just be on

902
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Speaker 1: board with whatever they wanted.

903
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 6: God, I would say no now, And keep in mind

904
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Speaker 6: that when it came time at four it was it

905
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Speaker 6: was Richard Center or or Will Levis.

906
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Speaker 1: Well, I get that, but they could have. I'm not

907
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: saying that they had the pieces to do it. But

908
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, Carolina moved up right to get young and

909
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: and I think did Houston move up to get Stroud

910
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: or was there there was Actually it was at the

911
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: end of the year. Remember the Colts. The Colts beat

912
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Speaker 1: Houston at the end of the year, and that moved

913
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Speaker 1: to Houston up a spot in front of him. If

914
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Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, but but they were on record of

915
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: saying if he was, if we had the number one pick,

916
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: we were going to take Richardson. Now they might have

917
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: just been saying, well.

918
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Speaker 6: Say that, you say that, when you say that, when

919
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 6: you when you draft him, right, you know we were

920
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 6: going to take a d Mitchell right where.

921
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: We took him.

922
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Speaker 6: Do you remember chat we created we created back to

923
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Speaker 6: get him.

924
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: But go ahead, do you remember the year that I

925
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: remember it was Dallas Clark, who turned out to be

926
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: a great player, don't get me wrong. But the year

927
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Speaker 1: that the Colts drafted Dallas Clark, Bill Pulliam comes out

928
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: and he says, this is the guy we want all along,

929
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Speaker 1: we had our draft board, this is the guy we targeted,

930
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: this guy from day one. That's exactly who we wanted.

931
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Speaker 1: The board felt like we thought, and we were thrilled

932
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Speaker 1: because Dallas Clark was the guy from day one that

933
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Speaker 1: we targeted and this was our pick. Okay, great. Then

934
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Speaker 1: later in the press conference, someone said, was there any

935
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: conversation about possibly move up and he says, well, we

936
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Speaker 1: thought about that, but the guy we wanted to move

937
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Speaker 1: up for was already taken. I'm like, wait a minute.

938
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Speaker 1: He just said. You know, this is how it always works,

939
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Speaker 1: right in the in the moment conversations.

940
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Speaker 6: How many times you say, the guy, the guy that

941
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Speaker 6: picked in the fifth ry on right where we thought

942
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Speaker 6: you'd be, Come on, give me a break.

943
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: But no.

944
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Speaker 6: But I I do think that that they they they

945
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 6: were both on board, Chris Ballad and Shange Sdyke, and

946
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Speaker 6: we're on board that this was the right move and

947
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Speaker 6: all that, and at some point that in the past

948
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Speaker 6: I don't know a year, I think Shane Styke and

949
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Speaker 6: is he's thought, Man, I maybe I'm not maybe I was,

950
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Speaker 6: maybe I wasn't wrong, but this is going to take

951
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Speaker 6: longer than I thought it was going to take. And

952
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Speaker 6: I'm not sure how much longer I've got. Uh So,

953
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Speaker 6: I I think he is not well, that's obvious. He's

954
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 6: not even remotely prepared to put his season and the

955
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 6: Coult season. But again, they should be in contention for

956
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 6: playoffs or division in December if stay get gosh, we

957
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 6: were talking, all they need is Gardner Minshew go back

958
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 6: and get his season a little bit more. Obviously, I mean.

959
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Speaker 1: Chapter to be fair in conclusion here to be fair

960
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: to Chris Ballard, because you know, I'm not going to

961
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Speaker 1: throw you in this category. I've been pretty critical of

962
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard in a lot of areas. Like I said earlier.

963
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: You know, he developed Ballard Steakhouse and they have really

964
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Speaker 1: good things on the menu, but he's still trying to

965
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Speaker 1: find a guy that properly can prepare steak.

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Speaker 3: Right.

967
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Speaker 1: But having said that, it is a good roster though, right,

968
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying elite. I'm not saying, you know,

969
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Speaker 1: going in against the Saints in the Super Bowl or

970
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Speaker 1: winning against the Bears in the Super Bowl. But it

971
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Speaker 1: is a pretty good roster that does have some depth

972
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: and areas other than the most important one, right.

973
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Speaker 6: No question. I like the skilled players. I like Tyler Warren,

974
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Speaker 6: I really like Jonathan Taylor. I need to see the

975
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 6: defense because it's not been together because of injuries every everybody.

976
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Speaker 6: Most teams have problems. But until you get the quarterback fixed,

977
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Speaker 6: it's just hard to project. That's why this is such

978
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Speaker 6: a wide swing on what they might they might do

979
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Speaker 6: this year. If you get bad quarterback play, I don't

980
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Speaker 6: care how good your roster iss, you're not going to

981
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Speaker 6: win very often. And if you get a good quarterback play,

982
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 6: we saw what Andrew Luke did with them with some

983
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Speaker 6: you know so so rosters. He won three straight eleven

984
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Speaker 6: games three straight years with with with a flawed roster.

985
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Speaker 6: So it's quarterback. It's quarterback driven. And they're going into

986
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Speaker 6: the season and I've got my fingers crossed. I'm sure

987
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Speaker 6: they don't. They've got to be fully on board with this,

988
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 6: But I don't know how Jones is gonna play, and

989
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 6: to me, it just is.

990
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: It is for sure. But hey, it's the National Football

991
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: League and we've been through this before with the quarterback uncertainty,

992
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: and we'll see whether or not they get you know,

993
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: maybe they get that miracle year the Colts got out

994
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: of Don Mkowski for a while, or Jim Harbaugh when

995
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: he came here. You know, we shall see. But then again,

996
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 1: they could end up with Craig Erickson. We just don't

997
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: know that.

998
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 6: And if they make a trade in the next week

999
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Speaker 6: or months, you just kind of ripped me a new

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Speaker 6: one on radio.

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Speaker 1: All right. I'm not saying listen, I'm not saying I'm

1002
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 1: that I disagree with you. I mean, we'll see, right,

1003
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: But again, they they can tell me that they're on

1004
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 1: board with Richardson and they still want to see him develop.

1005
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: But I would simply say that everything else that they

1006
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: have done, their actions speak louder than their words, and that.

1007
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Speaker 6: At the point in year three, mental rips, in my mind,

1008
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 6: are overrated. You need to play.

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Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, that's fair. All right, Chap, appreciate it. We'll

1010
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 1: talk to you soon, all right, sound good and such?

1011
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: All right, Mike Chappell from CBS four and wxi N

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Speaker 1: Fox fifty nine