1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: In quiet and serene Brandon, Florida, of peaceful ambience is 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: shattered by the sound of gunshots. A shocking scene unfolds 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: as the victim is revealed a devoted mother, grandmother, caretaker, 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: and teacher's aid who was a pillar of her community, 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: known for her compassion and dedication. She had recently found 6 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: new love and her life seemed to be blossoming. However, 7 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: just when it appeared she was on a positive path, 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: this tragic turn of events leaves her family, friends, and 9 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: community in shocking Meanwhile, detectives are working tireless thing to 10 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: find answers what happens when love becomes fatal. This is 11 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: a Fatal Attraction podcast with High. 12 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 2: Of a Chilla. 13 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 3: November sixth, th nineteen. It's Wednesday night in Brandon, Florida, 14 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 3: a sprawling suburb just east of Tampa. 15 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 4: If you want to get away from the hustle and 16 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 4: bustle of the city, Brandon's where you go. 17 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 5: It's known as kind of a quiet, sleepy town, all 18 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 5: American and just a good place to raise a family. 19 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 6: The only really hear about a lot of crime, especially 20 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 6: violent crimes, going on in Brandon. 21 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 3: But even safe communities can be rocked by violence. At 22 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 3: around eight thirty that evening, Hillsboro, County nine one one 23 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 3: receives a flurry of frightened calls. 24 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 7: Now sure, we're just gunshots fired at our apartment call parks. 25 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 7: How many seans did you hear? Food shot? Okay by myself, 26 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 7: and I heard all those country. 27 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 5: This was a newer apartment complex, very expensive. 28 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 8: For everybody that was within earshot, that was a shocking 29 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 8: sound to hear. 30 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: But the real shock is what residency outside their windows. 31 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 7: Someone's got shot. 32 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 9: Someone is on the ground. 33 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: Is she awakened, breathing? Oh well, I don't want to whatever. 34 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 10: Everybody is afraid. 35 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 9: Their quiet evening is shattered by violence. 36 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 10: Everyone was locking their doors, pulling down the shades. 37 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 7: We've got help the way out there, okay. 38 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 3: When first responders arrive, they find exactly what the callers described. 39 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 3: Someone sprawled on the ground next to a car. 40 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 9: I need this woman lying on the ground as an 41 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 9: African American woman. She's wearing nursing scrutch. 42 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 10: The doors of the car were flung open and there 43 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 10: was a pool of blood. 44 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: And at least to one resident of the complex is 45 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 3: doing everything he can to help her. 46 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 5: He had his own shirt off, trying to stop the 47 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 5: blood coming from her body. 48 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: As first responders take over, the resident is able to 49 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 3: give them the woman's identity. 50 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 11: What's her name? Renee? 51 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 12: Renee Williams, fifty five year old Renee Williams always put 52 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 12: others before herself. 53 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 4: If you knew Renee, then you knew that her life 54 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 4: mission was to help people. 55 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 10: Renee Williams was a doting mom. She was a great 56 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 10: mom to her children and grandchildren and the children in 57 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 10: the community. 58 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 5: She had a part time job as caretaker for disabled adults, 59 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 5: but she also was the teacher's aid. 60 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 9: She was somebody who really took pleasure, took joy in 61 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 9: helping students, helping them learn to read, helping them in 62 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 9: their classes. 63 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 4: It wasn't about the pay, it was the payoff, making 64 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 4: sure that people knew that they were cared about Renee. 65 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 3: Students weren't the only one she cared about either. She 66 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 3: looked out for the entire staff at her school. 67 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 4: She never thought that she was above anyone. Instead, she 68 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 4: brought everybody else, whether it was a custodian, whether it 69 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 4: was the younger teachers. 70 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 3: Grenee, you didn't have to do all. 71 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 4: This, Oh, it's no problem. 72 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 3: You know, I really enjoy this, You know I do? 73 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 3: And is this for me? 74 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 12: It is? 75 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 3: Girl? 76 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 4: You are too sweet. Oh my goodness. 77 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: I appreciate you and I adore you. 78 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 9: I appreciate you. 79 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 10: She was just an amazing human being, and that comes 80 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 10: from the mouths of everyone who knew and loved her. 81 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 3: But as fulfilling as work was, there was still something missing. 82 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 4: Renee had raised her children, she now had grandchildren, and 83 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 4: while they filled a certain void, there was still this 84 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 4: place that she was saving for someone special. 85 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 8: As much as she gave, she also wanted to receive. 86 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 6: As humans, we want to have someone to come home 87 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 6: to or to talk about and confide in. 88 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: And in May of twenty eighteen, she may have finally 89 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: found that someone. 90 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 4: Hey does someone call about an aunt problem? 91 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: Oh? 92 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: Sure, yep, right over in that area. 93 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 9: Richard Miller was an exterminator, blue collar, hard working guy. 94 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 9: People described him as a big teddy bear, somebody who 95 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 9: was goofy, who was fun, somebody was caring and loving. 96 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 4: He was the guy that, while big in stature, was 97 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 4: even bigger and hard. 98 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: Recently divorced, he was also single and looking to get 99 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 3: back into the dating game. 100 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 13: Hondah, Yeah, I wanted to ask you, were you doing 101 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 13: anything this weekend? 102 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 14: Are you asking me out? 103 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 4: I guess I am. 104 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 10: Richard was a jokester, a fun loving guy. He was kind, 105 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 10: he was generous, and. 106 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 15: How's you gon to change your mind on me now? 107 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 7: I won't. 108 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 4: I think that the reason that Richard and Renee hit 109 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 4: it off was because they were both seasoned. They knew 110 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 4: what they wanted out of life, what they wanted from. 111 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 3: Love, and what they wanted was something comfortable and casual. 112 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 9: There was no drama with Richard. It's easy going, it's fun. 113 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 10: She thought she found her God. 114 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 16: He was someone she could see spending her golden years with. 115 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: But now, instead of enjoying the best years of her life, 116 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: Renee's been found suffering from multiple gunshot wounds outside of 117 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 3: a client's apartment. 118 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 5: At this point, Renee Williams is cleaning to life. 119 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 9: She has a pulse and they have put her on 120 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 9: an ambulance and take her to the hospital. 121 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: As the ambulance pulls away, the officers at the scene 122 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 3: turned to the concerned neighbors who have gathered nearby. 123 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 9: Shots rang out and a lot of the neighbors either 124 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 9: look out of the windows or come out outside their apartment. 125 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: And one neighbor in particular has vital information. 126 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 4: I saw a guy walk away from his car. He 127 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 4: had a gun. 128 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 9: He saw the shooter walking away from the scene. 129 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: Stay too as we unravel the events that unfolded in 130 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: the peaceful town of Brandon, Floyd. This is the Fatal 131 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: Attraction Podcast. 132 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 3: After years of helping others, it looked as if for 133 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: Renee Williams had finally found someone for herself. 134 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 4: Richard met a lot of the criteria on Renee's list. 135 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 4: He had a job, he was a good. 136 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 10: Guy, no frills, nothing fancy, but he was loving and 137 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 10: he treated Renee with respect. 138 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 4: I think that Richard, much like Renee, wanted to find love, 139 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 4: and when they found each other, it looked like love 140 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 4: had an opportunity to come forth. 141 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 17: It was supposed to be a romance to last the 142 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 17: rest of her life. 143 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: But how long that will be is suddenly in doubt. 144 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 16: She'd been shot multiple times while leaving a client's apartment. 145 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 5: She's clinging to life. She has two gunshots in her 146 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 5: chest area a gunshot in her hip area. 147 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 3: While EMTs rushed Renee to the hospital, officers at the 148 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 3: scene or all already getting their first tip on the suspect. 149 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: I saw a guy walk away from his car. 150 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 11: He had a gun. 151 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 17: Officers secured the witness in a patrol car for the detectives, 152 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 17: and then started blocking off the rest of the crime scene. 153 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: When detectives arrived, their first order of business is speaking 154 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: to the witness who saw the shooter. 155 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 2: How y'all be going, okay? 156 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 11: Can you tell me what you heard or what you saw? 157 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 5: The witness said he was the apartment manager and that 158 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 5: he was inside watching television when he heard three or 159 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 5: four loud bangs in rapid succession. 160 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: When I heard the shots, I looked at the window 161 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 2: right away. 162 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 4: He said that at first he didn't know they were 163 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 4: gun shots. 164 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 5: There was a lot of teenagers living in this complex, 165 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 5: so he assumed they were fireworks at first. 166 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: You know, I'm a manager, just a fire awards or 167 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: whatever I have. I to go outside that the night. 168 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: You can't do that. 169 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 5: Yet, when he happened to glance out the window, he 170 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 5: saw a large, heavy set black mail in his thirties 171 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 5: or forties with bald head walking past. 172 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 15: Pretty big guy. 173 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the big guy. 174 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 11: Do you see his face? 175 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: No, I barely saw her face. By my wife, If 176 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 2: you were quite next to them. When she left. 177 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 4: The apartment. Manager says that his wife was leaving and 178 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 4: she saw Renee and the man in question as well. 179 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 9: The manager's wife had left approximately thirty minutes prior to 180 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 9: the shooting. 181 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 3: When detectives follow up with the manager's wife, she is 182 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 3: able to add a lot more information. 183 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 14: There was a car parked right next to my car. 184 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 14: There was the woman sitting in the driver's seat. The 185 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 14: gentleman had the door all the way open, and he 186 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 14: was kind of like kneeled inside her car. 187 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 4: She couldn't hear what they were saying. 188 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 11: They were very quiet. 189 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 4: But she could tell that this was not a friendly conversation. 190 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 9: She noticed Renee Williams was crying as she was sitting 191 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 9: in that motor vehicle. 192 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 11: I just assumed, you know, she was upset. 193 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 9: She tried to get out of the parking space, but 194 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 9: he was actually blocking the ability for her to leave 195 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 9: that space. 196 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 14: I waited a little bit, thinking maybe he saw me 197 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 14: that he would close the door a little bit for 198 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 14: me to back up, as I would have hit the 199 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 14: car if I tried to back up. Okay, so I 200 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 14: inched my way a little bit. He so didn't see me. 201 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 14: I did it again, and then he turned and looked 202 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 14: at me. He closed the door a little bit, and 203 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 14: then I kind of waved at him, saying thank you. 204 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 14: There was no emotion, no smile, nothing on his face. 205 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 9: She couldn't get over the fact of how his eyes looked. 206 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 9: They looked cruel. 207 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 2: And had you ever seen either of these people before? 208 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 14: I've seen her before. I have a neighbor right across 209 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 14: from me, and she was his caregiver. 210 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 15: And what about the gentleman that was with her? 211 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 11: No, I'm sorry again. 212 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 3: However, she does think she could identify him if she 213 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 3: saw him again. 214 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 8: She wasn't some distance away. She was four or five 215 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 8: feet away. 216 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 3: And she isn't detective's only witness. 217 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 16: Sure one of Renee's coworkers had also gotten a look 218 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 16: at the suspected shooter. 219 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 5: He was coming in to relieve her. This why they 220 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 5: had needed round the clock coverage. 221 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 18: She said bye, and said bye back to her, and 222 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 18: she walked to her vehicle, and I began to get 223 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 18: a client, this routine medications and then yes, a dog 224 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 18: at the Glasip for a walk. 225 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: He tells police that once he was outside with the dog, 226 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 3: he noticed that Renee was sitting in her car in 227 00:12:59,480 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 3: the parking. 228 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 2: She saw me and she said, oh, I said, like 229 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: that tour. 230 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 9: He also saw what he described as a larger, heavy 231 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 9: set African American male kneeling in the doorway next to 232 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 9: re Renee was is nothing else. 233 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 8: I need to hear? 234 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 5: He saw her in this man engage in a very 235 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 5: tense look like very intense conversation. 236 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not going to hear in that conversation, she 237 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 2: was saying something. 238 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 15: I'm stressed out, he said. 239 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 17: He didn't want to pry, so he put his headphones 240 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 17: in and went about his business, and. 241 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 9: He went back into the apartment. A few minutes later, 242 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 9: he heard what he believed to be fireworks, heard three. 243 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: Mile open bangs. Do any think nothing of it? 244 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 3: That is until he heard the sirens approaching. 245 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 9: He looked out and realized that Renee was now lying 246 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 9: in a pool of blood. 247 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 4: So this witness corroborates everything that everyone else has said. 248 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 16: His descriptions matched the other witnesses, but he also didn't 249 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 16: recognize the man he saw with Renee. 250 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 15: Thank you, pan, I appreciate. 251 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 3: Before detectives move on to try to id their shooter, 252 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 3: they have one more witness to speak with the man 253 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 3: who'd been trying to save Renee's life. 254 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 5: He also lived in the complex taking care of his 255 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 5: elderly mother. 256 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 15: Are you in a medical field game training? Okay, so 257 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 15: you knew where to look for a poles. Yeah. 258 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 17: When he saw Renee bleeding on the pavement, he didn't 259 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 17: hesitate to rush to her. 260 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 8: Aid. 261 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 4: Renee. 262 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 5: God, he had a shirt off, trying to use the 263 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 5: shirt to stop the blood flowing from her. 264 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: You're okay. I was just yeah, what I could. 265 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 3: But will the neighbor's quick thinking be enough to save her? 266 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 3: Detectives are still at the scene when they receive word 267 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 3: from the hospital. 268 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 5: Sadly, Renee passed away at the hospital. 269 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 16: There were no life saving measures that could have changed 270 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 16: the outcome. 271 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 5: What was an assault has now been upgraded to a murder. 272 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: Will you go? Shouldn't make it? 273 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 3: Detectives have received word that Renee Williams has just died 274 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: in surgery. 275 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 9: She's a come to the injuries, the three gunshot wounds 276 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 9: that she received. 277 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 10: This was crazy, especially in a community like Brands in Florida. 278 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 10: It's a safe community. 279 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 9: Is it a random act of violence? Is it a 280 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 9: robbery or carjacking? 281 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 3: Based on clues of the scene, detectives are fairly certain 282 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 3: that isn't the case. 283 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 8: Purce wasn't taken. Key's still there in the car. The 284 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 8: car is still there. 285 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 5: Common sense tells you that if she was a target 286 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 5: of a robbery, some of her valuables would have been taken. 287 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 17: Witness is also said she had been talking to the 288 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 17: suspected shooter for sometime before the shots were fired. 289 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 6: They could tell that there was some kind of confrontation 290 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 6: going on. 291 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 9: It had to be personal. 292 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 3: Detectives don't know what the man wanted from Renee, but 293 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 3: they are fairly sure of one thing. 294 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 8: It didn't go the way that he wanted it to go. 295 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 6: Renee could have been telling the assailant, hey leave me alone. 296 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 8: I think that's when that gun came out. 297 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: Then Renee's killer had calmly walked away. 298 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 8: The offender didn't care if there were witnesses. 299 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 10: People saw this man. 300 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 8: Who in the world would shoot somebody to death in 301 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 8: a parking lot where there are hundreds of other residents. 302 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 4: This was not someone that lived in the complex. Because 303 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 4: everybody said that they did not recognize him. 304 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 3: All witnesses are able to give detective is a general 305 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: description of Renee killer. 306 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 9: They all describe seeing an African American male between five 307 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 9: nine and six two bald head, larger build. 308 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 3: Hoping to learn more, The detectives keep knocking on doors 309 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 3: around the complex. 310 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 9: They are interviewing multiple people. 311 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 16: There were lots of people who heard the shots, but 312 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 16: they were unable to find anyone who could tell them 313 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 16: any more about the shooting or have the killer. 314 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 3: Fled, and electronic surveillance is unable to fill the gaps. 315 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 9: The apartment complex where Miss Williams was killed does not 316 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 9: have surveillance video. 317 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 17: No one had any doorbell cam or cell phone video 318 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 17: of the suspect either. 319 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 9: One would think that with as much technology as much 320 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 9: cameras are there, that something would have been seen on camera. 321 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 9: In this case, there is absolutely no videos showing who 322 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 9: the shooter was. 323 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 3: As detectives are wrapping up what they can do with 324 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,959 Speaker 3: the scene, Renee's son arrives at the apartment complex looking 325 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 3: for his mother. 326 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 10: At first, people were like, this is kind of suspicious. 327 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 9: In these cases, everybody is a potential suspect until they're not. 328 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 9: So law enforcement starts questioning them, well, why are you here. 329 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 16: At that point, the police hadn't yet notified Renee's nest 330 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 16: of ken. 331 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 10: So everybody's eyebrows are raised with the son because they're like, 332 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 10: how did you know? 333 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 2: So? 334 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 15: What made you come over here? 335 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 2: Sure, that's some phone. 336 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 15: Okay, she insered her phone. She usually answered her phone. 337 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 2: Was she supposed to home? 338 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 15: Was she supposed to be home at a certain time? 339 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 2: Europe? What time? Fifteen? 340 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 5: He attempted to call his mom. When she didn't answer, 341 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 5: he raced over to where he knew she would be working. 342 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 10: He knew what her schedule was, so he was really 343 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 10: a son checking up on his mom. 344 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 3: That's when detectives give him the best at news. 345 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 13: Okay, so we are working a shooting where a female 346 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 13: that was in that car has been shot. 347 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 15: Unfortunately his decease. 348 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 9: He's obviously upset when he learned that his mother was killed. 349 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 15: Take a deep breath, man. 350 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 3: When Renee's son recovers his composure, he tells detectives that 351 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 3: his mother had recently been afraid of something or someone. 352 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 13: Time she asked me to come up, so you know, 353 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 13: she would actually to come outside and the escort inside 354 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 13: to the house. 355 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 15: Did she say, why. 356 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 2: Shoull that was just tough. She felt what she thought 357 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 2: full of them. 358 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 3: But if that's the case, who was he? 359 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 4: The son is asked who might have done this? Does 360 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 4: she have any enemies? 361 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 5: He right away started blurting out who he thinks the 362 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 5: suspect is Richard. 363 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: More questions are being answered and more truth is being revealed. 364 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: Stay tuned for. 365 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: More Alp the Fatal Attraction podcast. 366 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 3: Questioned by detectives after he'd shown up at the crime scene, 367 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 3: Renee William's son says he thinks he knows who gunned 368 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: down his mother outside the suburban Tampa apartment complex. 369 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 5: The first thing he says is Richard did it? 370 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 15: Who is Richard? 371 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 2: Must? 372 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 15: Do you know his last name? Okay? And are they 373 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 15: still dating? 374 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 5: She can it off with him. 375 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 2: About how long ago was UPO? Does she say? 376 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 3: Why could the breakup be a motive for murder? 377 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 10: Some people cannot handle rejection. 378 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 6: Breakups are hard, you know, if one person still feels 379 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 6: like they want to be in a relationship and the 380 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 6: other person doesn't. 381 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 10: Some men think that they have ownership of the person. 382 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 10: If you say I'm dating you or you're my girlfriend, 383 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 10: then they feel like they have ownership. And how dare 384 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 10: you say no to me or you don't want to 385 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 10: see me anymore? 386 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 3: But did it lead to Renee's death. It seems plausible 387 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 3: to the detectives. 388 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 9: In cases like this, one of the first people law 389 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 9: enforcement look to is a significant other or an ex 390 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 9: significant other of the victim. 391 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 5: The son did say that Richard did match that description 392 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 5: that witnesses have come forward with. 393 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 2: Leah, you kind of got a ball with you that 394 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: just say. 395 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 3: Okay, But does that mean Richard is there suspect? 396 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 5: This was a very generic description. 397 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 15: Has he threatened her before? 398 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: No? 399 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,959 Speaker 15: Did she ever say specifically that she was afraid of Richard? 400 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 6: No? 401 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 5: He cannot point to any past incidents of violence, could 402 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 5: not point out to any arguments, any threats that Richard's 403 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 5: ever made against his mother. 404 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 15: This is what you're feeling. 405 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 5: All he can say is it was just a hunch. 406 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 4: But then you ask a question that makes you. 407 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: Go, m what kind of you? 408 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 9: That's an odd question to ask somebody, especially a detective, 409 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 9: knowing that your mother has just been killed. 410 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 17: The detectives certainly were taken by surprise. 411 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 13: What makes you ask that my gun little spoton? 412 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 15: Okay, tell me about that. 413 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 2: This happened my gun store in the end of July. 414 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 13: Was it taken from your house? Did you last not 415 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 13: to have it at your house. It was my horn car? 416 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: And what car? Mark Horn? Okay? All right? 417 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 15: And what kind of gun was it? 418 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 9: According to our son, his gun was stay forty five 419 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 9: caliber firearm. 420 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,479 Speaker 4: It matches the murder weapon? 421 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 15: Was it reported at ALLOS? It was through the Sheriff's office. 422 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 15: Do you have a paperwork for it, for serio number 423 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 15: or anything? 424 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 9: STILLOS, he said he can produce their receipts. But now 425 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 9: law enforcement must be thinking, why is he mentioning this 426 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 9: to us? 427 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 4: Now? 428 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 9: Why is he asking us about this firearm? 429 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 15: Anything else? 430 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 13: You can tell me only person of good Richard did 431 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 13: what which I want? Stealing a gun or something about 432 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 13: harming your mom? 433 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 9: Hey believes that Richard is the person who killed his mother. 434 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 3: After finishing with Renee's son, detectives head back to the 435 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 3: station to dig up background info on Richard. 436 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 16: Renee's son didn't know about any violence from Richard toward 437 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 16: his mom, but it would be able to give them 438 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 16: a better idea of who this guy was. 439 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 3: However, detectives don't get far before they receive urgent information 440 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 3: from the nine to one one dispatch center. 441 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 9: A few hours after the shooting, a novel won call 442 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 9: is made to law enforcement. That provides the biggest break 443 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 9: in the case. 444 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 7: Nine one one, What did your emergency? 445 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 4: The woman on the other end said that her ex 446 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 4: husband just shot his girlfriend. 447 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 7: He said he did it, and I have to see 448 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 7: it was he told me that he kilch. I'm not 449 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 7: sure if it's true or not, but I'm actually fit 450 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 7: for my safety. 451 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 9: The caller on that other end of that phone was 452 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 9: the ex wife of Richard Miller. 453 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more of the Fate of Wits action podcast. 454 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 3: Richard Miller's ex wife is called nine one one, claiming 455 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 3: he'd confess to shooting his girlfriend, Renee Williams. 456 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 2: And when did he tell you this? 457 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 7: Maybe about half an hour ago in person? 458 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: Yes, According to Richard's ex wife, he'd shown up at 459 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 3: her house just as she was leaving to go to 460 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 3: the store. 461 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 7: I've seen a part behind my car and then I 462 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 7: asked us, what's your problem? 463 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 10: The ex wife is confused on why he's acting. 464 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 4: The way he's acting. 465 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 10: He's a little erratic, he's a little odd acting. 466 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 9: What's wrong with you? 467 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 4: He looks dishoveled, he looks upset, and he says something 468 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 4: to her, are you ready for this? 469 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 10: And that's when he confessed I did. 470 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 7: He said he did it, and I said, did it work? 471 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 7: He told me that he could. 472 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 10: I don't know what was going through that ex wife's mind. 473 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 4: I would be scared. 474 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 7: Why would he call tell me? Why come tell me? 475 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 7: I don't need to know that information. That wouldn't for 476 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 7: him to compail me. Then he told me that he 477 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 7: was want to harm itself because I might. 478 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 15: Kill myself next. 479 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 4: Okay, just calm down. 480 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 2: Okay. 481 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 3: She was extremely worried, and not just about Richard. 482 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 6: If he's willing to harm himself, is he also willing 483 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 6: to harm her as well. 484 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 3: Dispatch passes the ex wife's information onto the detectives investigating 485 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 3: Renee's murder. But is the tip the breakthrough it appears 486 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 3: to be. 487 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 10: They don't know if it's true. Did Richard really tell her. 488 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 5: That there is a chance that the ex wife may 489 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 5: have ulterior motives? 490 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 4: You know the old thing? Hell hath no fury like 491 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 4: a woman scorned. Maybe she had nats to grind. Maybe 492 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 4: she just wanted to get Richard in trouble. 493 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 5: False tips are always part of a risk the police 494 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 5: have to take, especially as an ex wife where leaders 495 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 5: know what kind of relationship they have. Is she trying 496 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 5: to get revenge on him. 497 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 3: Hoping for more information, the detectives have Richard's ex wife 498 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 3: come in for a formal statement. 499 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 19: Came, mind, having seen my airplace, you called the Sheriff's 500 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 19: office to report something that someone had said to you. 501 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 11: Is that correct so far? Yes, sir, he said, I 502 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 11: did it? How do I say? 503 00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 2: What did you do? 504 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 4: Richard says that Renee was playing him, that she was 505 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 4: playing with his emotions and she was playing with his feelings. 506 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 11: Then he said, I killed him. 507 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 4: She said at some point in this conversation, Richard said 508 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 4: that he's gonna kill himself. 509 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 20: He kept saying, well, I might pull back up your house, 510 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 20: and he might obey, and I might off myself in 511 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 20: your yard. 512 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 6: I can only imagine what she was going through. 513 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 8: If I was her, I'd be scared to desk. 514 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 3: But only if she is telling the truth. 515 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 11: Did he describe how he did what he did? I 516 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 11: think she. 517 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 20: Cares for someone, and I think she came out able 518 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 20: to her car or something, and someone else was out, 519 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 20: maybe taking a trash. But he said he don't think 520 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 20: he really seen him, and he ain't want recond the house. 521 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 11: I guess that's when he did what he did, did 522 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 11: he say exactly what he did? He shot about three times. 523 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 8: The fact that the ex wife knew the number of 524 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 8: shots tells me that this statement is true and legit. 525 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 9: The information that she reported to law enforcement is corroborated 526 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 9: by the testimony of the eyewitnesses. 527 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 3: The only question that remains is why Richard would tell 528 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 3: her all of this. 529 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 5: She let it know that for many many reasons. They 530 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 5: were still close after the divorce. 531 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 6: It's unique that a killer would tell his ex wife, 532 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 6: but I think that a lot of people would confide 533 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 6: in someone that they trust. 534 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 8: People that are dealing with this heavy burden have to 535 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 8: talk to somebody. 536 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 3: Whatever Richard's motivation was for telling his ex about the shooting, 537 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 3: she hadn't hesitated in going to the police. 538 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 11: That's why I'll call, because I figured that I had to. Well, 539 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 11: you're doing the right thing. 540 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 9: The ex wife is really the key thing in this case. 541 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 9: She ties everything together for law enforcement. 542 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 3: But can she also help the detectives take him into custody. 543 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 5: When the police asked his ex wife if she would 544 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 5: call to help arrange a surrender, her help talk him down, 545 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 5: she quickly says no. 546 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 4: Her reasoning behind not wanting to do this is She 547 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 4: said that she thought it would agitate Richard. 548 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 11: If he knows that I even talked to the two guys, 549 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 11: he probably was shut down. 550 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: Okay. 551 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 3: After speaking with Richard's ex wife, law enforcement moves to 552 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 3: surround his house in northeast Tampa. 553 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 8: Richard know, he says he about Shaff's to partner, come 554 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 8: out with your hands way. Richard was cornered. 555 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 4: I had nowhere to go. 556 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 5: This is one of the scariest parts of this whole scenario. 557 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 4: Would he give himself up? 558 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 5: He's already threatened suicide? Is he going to start shooting 559 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 5: at the police? 560 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 9: We call that suicide by cop. 561 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: Stay tuned as we unraveled the events that unfolded in 562 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: the peaceful town of. 563 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 2: Brandon, Floyd. This is the Fatal Attraction podcast. 564 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 3: Law enforcement has surrounded the Tampa, Florida home of Renee 565 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 3: William's boyfriend, Richard Miller. 566 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 16: According to what Richard Said's wife told detectives, he'd confessed 567 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 16: to shooting and killing Renee. As she left work on 568 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 16: the night of November six. 569 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 9: She called law enforcement and reported what he told her, 570 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 9: with intimate details and facts that established that she was credible. 571 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 17: She also told detectives that Richard had threatened to kill. 572 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 3: Himself, and when the SWAT team outside the house calls 573 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 3: on Richard to surrender. The result is a tense stand off. 574 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 8: We aren't just surrounded. 575 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: Come out with your hands above your head. 576 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 6: They don't know if Richard is willing to kill one 577 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 6: of them or just raise his guns and enact a suicide. 578 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 4: There's a great chance that Richard's not gonna get out 579 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 4: of this. 580 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: Alives. 581 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 3: After several tense moments, Richard emerges from the house at 582 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 3: the door, his hands in the air. 583 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 9: Richard Miller walks out and peacefully surrenders. 584 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 2: Me stuff like that. 585 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 4: We have a violatile situation that was able to de escalate. 586 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 9: You have to head it to law enforcement here in 587 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 9: Hillsborough County. They avoided a much more tragic situation that 588 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 9: could have harmed their officers other people in the community. 589 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 3: With Richard in custody, detectives move inside and search the house. 590 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 4: In their search, the police found what would be assumed 591 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 4: to be the murder weapon. It was the forty five 592 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 4: caliber handgun. 593 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 16: It was the same caliber as the shellcasing is founded 594 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 16: the scene. 595 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 3: The serial number isn't a match for the gun Renee's 596 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 3: sun reported stolen, but that makes little difference for the 597 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 3: murder investigation. 598 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 5: By now, the police are fairly confident with all the 599 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 5: evidence they have that Richard is the killer. 600 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 3: Not that his arrest is much comfort to those who 601 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 3: loved Renee. 602 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 5: The school that she had spent years working at was 603 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 5: extremely sad. Her principal, all her teachers you worked with 604 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 5: at school, everybody appeared to be devastated. 605 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 4: There were grief counselors and crisis counselors that were dispatched 606 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 4: to the school. 607 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 6: She was just such an integral part of the community, 608 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 6: constantly giving back. 609 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 4: Renee was one of those kind of people that when 610 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 4: you were in her presence you felt blessed, so much 611 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 4: so that the end of life for her left such 612 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 4: an indelible hole that it was necessary for there to 613 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 4: be somebody there to help them work through this process. 614 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 3: The community is still grieving. When Richard goes on trial 615 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 3: in January of twenty twenty. 616 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:42,959 Speaker 5: Two, prosecutors go in feeling very very strong about their case. 617 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 4: Richard Miller was a man obsessed. 618 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 8: He was obsessed with a victim in this case, Renee Williams. 619 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 5: The prosecutors talked about a relationship that was over. They 620 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 5: showed text messages and phone calls going back and forth, 621 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 5: or her saying she wanted nothing more to do with him. 622 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 3: And according to prosecutors, the most telling of all was 623 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 3: the last text he ever sent to Renee. 624 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 7: Never play with a person they're dangerous. 625 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 10: What that tells me is that he was boiling over 626 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 10: he was doing in the rejection. 627 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 8: It drove him to take her life rather than to 628 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 8: let her go on without him. 629 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 4: So he waits outside of her job. He confronts her, 630 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 4: and evidently he didn't like what Renee said. 631 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 15: Nay, yeah, please, I just need to talk to him. 632 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 7: What are you doing here? 633 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 9: Talk about? 634 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 4: What? 635 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 8: Little did Renee know that Richard had a loaded forty 636 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 8: five on him. 637 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 9: I can't do it no more. 638 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 3: Leap me along. I keep thinking over, you're done, We're done? 639 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 20: Yet, what are you doing? 640 00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 4: What are you doing? 641 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 8: This guy shot her at close range with a forty 642 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 8: five three times. You don't survive that. 643 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 4: He decided to take the life, the very life of 644 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 4: someone he claimed he loved. He shot her, and he 645 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 4: killed her. How selfish was that? You claim to love 646 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 4: this person who brought such great joy into your life 647 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 4: and instead of letting them live that life. You bring sorrow. 648 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 4: Talk about selfish, I can't think of a more heinous 649 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 4: and brutal way to show how selfish he was. 650 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 3: To prove that it was Richard who pulled the trigger, 651 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 3: the prosecutors put the apartment manager, his wife, and Renee's 652 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 3: coworker on the stand. 653 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 9: They all identified Richard Miller as the person who shot 654 00:36:59,200 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 9: Renee Williams. 655 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,280 Speaker 3: The prosecutors also put Richard's ex wife on the stand. 656 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,720 Speaker 17: Her testimony didn't go quite the way they planned. 657 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 9: Once she was put on the witness stand, she was reluctant. 658 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 9: She refused to go into the details that she did 659 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:17,280 Speaker 9: with law enforcement. 660 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 4: Do you recall telling the police that he told you 661 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 4: I killed her? 662 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 8: Maybe she felt that she wasn't being loyal. Maybe she 663 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 8: felt that she was betraying him. 664 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 4: Maybe she was afraid that if Richard got off that 665 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 4: he would come after her next. 666 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 3: Whatever her reasons, the prosecutors were left scrambling what. 667 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 5: They thought was such a strong case. They may end 668 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 5: up getting blown. 669 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 3: Out, but it's unlikely. 670 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 5: The prosecutor played back Richard's ex wife's own nine to 671 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 5: one one call. 672 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 10: She did it, of course, her nine to one one 673 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 10: call was recorded, so now she can't really backtrack what 674 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 10: she said. 675 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 3: In the end, it all comes down to what the 676 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 3: jury believes. 677 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 9: It took a jury two hours to convict Richard Miller 678 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 9: of premeditated first degree murder. 679 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 5: Last minute quick thinking of the prosecution possibly saved this 680 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:27,479 Speaker 5: whole case. 681 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 9: He was sentenced to life in prison by the judge 682 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 9: without parole. He'll be spending the rest of his life 683 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 9: in prison. 684 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 3: It's a welcome development in the fight for justice for Renee. 685 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,760 Speaker 9: Without a doubt, I think that it was an appropriate verdict. 686 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 5: The family was very relieved when they heard about the 687 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 5: quick guilty verdict. 688 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 4: The community rejoiced and that now Renee could finally rest 689 00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 4: in peace. 690 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, Renee's absence will 691 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 3: still leave a gaping hole in her family, her school, 692 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 3: and community. 693 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 4: The school loved Renee so much that they decided to 694 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 4: dedicate a memorial garden in her honor because she impacted 695 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 4: that school in ways that only she could. 696 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 5: All murder is sad. All murders can be senseless, but 697 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 5: it always cuts a bit deeper when the victim is 698 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 5: somebody's whose life was literally spent helping others and giving 699 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 5: back to others. 700 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 8: Renee Williams was exemplary in the way she had transcended 701 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 8: across all boundaries to reach out and touch and help people, 702 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 8: always giving, always being there, always providing that ear of 703 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,919 Speaker 8: comfort to those who needed her. 704 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 2: Well. 705 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 4: They used to talk about the fact that there were 706 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 4: angels amongst us. I believe that Renee was one of 707 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 4: those angels, and we can only hope that some of 708 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 4: the people that Renee touched will go on to touch 709 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 4: others and they'll pay it forward. 710 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: Throughout life and in relationships, we encounter breakups that can 711 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: lead to heartache and leave us with unanswered questions. However, 712 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: the absence of love should never drive us to commit 713 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 1: an unforgivable act such as taking the life of a 714 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: beloved grandmother, mother, caretaker, and teacher's paid Renee Williams was 715 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: a pillar of her community, known for her compassion and dedication. 716 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: She embodied the spirit of love and kindness and will 717 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: always be remembered by those who cherished her. 718 00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 2: Coming up on the. 719 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: Next episode of the Fatal Attraction podcast, Hey Hi. 720 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 3: She was a confident young woman making the most out 721 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 3: of life. She had this positive vibe, positive spirit. 722 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 9: She was like a happy go lucky person. 723 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 4: Everybody love her. 724 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 3: And her zest for life caught the eye of a 725 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 3: charming older. 726 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 2: Man, Angel had You. 727 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,839 Speaker 4: They had reconnected later in life. 728 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 6: They enjoyed each other's company, She was in love and 729 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 6: went straight into a relationship. 730 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 3: Until a brutal crime tore them apart. 731 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,280 Speaker 1: A thirty one year old woman known for her sparkling 732 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: personality and zest for life, she embodies joy and ambitions. 733 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: When faith brings her face to face with someone from 734 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: her past, a spark i night and the reunion adds 735 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: a new dimension to her life, emphasizing the potential for. 736 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 9: A true romance. 737 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 1: However, a frantic call to the police forever alters her life. 738 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 1: What happened that early morning in Alton, Illinois. Tunic to 739 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: the next episode of the Fatal Attraction podcast. We will 740 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: see you in the next episode.