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Speaker 2: Anything can happen here.

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Speaker 3: Hammer and Nigel present Caller Roulette.

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Speaker 4: Considering how much equity we've built up in this show, Nige,

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Speaker 4: a number one rated show for eight straight years on

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Speaker 4: the biggest flame throwing station in.

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Speaker 2: The state, bring in a lot of money.

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Speaker 4: This is a really bad idea. This is like, really

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Speaker 4: really a bad idea.

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Speaker 2: But what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 4: All right, So we're gonna open up the phone lines

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Speaker 4: here and let you guys talk about whatever you want.

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Speaker 4: We haven't screened out your call. All we know is

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Speaker 4: your name. That's it.

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Speaker 3: Hence Caller Roulette.

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Speaker 4: Nige and I have no idea what's on the other

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Speaker 4: side of this phone bank. So if you're on hold,

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Speaker 4: all we can ask is number one, you keep it

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Speaker 4: clean and number two you keep it brief. Other than that,

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Speaker 4: let's light this candle. Bob is up first. Bob, Welcome

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Speaker 4: to the Hammer in Nigel Show.

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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, thanks for having me on A longtime friend.

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Speaker 1: I've been listening a long time. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: Hey.

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Speaker 1: The only thing I would say is I want to

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Speaker 1: do redistricting.

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Speaker 5: I'm off for it.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm really for the constitution for the state. But

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Speaker 1: with everything that's going on federally, I think this is

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Speaker 1: to our property taxes. So lastly, guys, I'll get off here,

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Speaker 1: but hey, till till Rob it to lay off Mike

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Speaker 1: That romances is really in bad.

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Speaker 2: Shape of relationship.

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Speaker 1: Now, Hey, you know what, I honestly I I agree

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Speaker 7: To lay off Mic a little bit.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's just it's bad.

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Speaker 2: You got it, Bob.

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Speaker 4: It went from a very prosperous relationship to something very

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Speaker 3: I have not had something like that happen in my

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Speaker 4: Have you somebody that was really good to you and

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Speaker 4: Like people who I have been really good friends with

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Speaker 6: Show thank you guys. I mean I love listening to

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Speaker 6: I did bring up the better person's name. So maybe

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm with you on that, Jane. And that's what

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Speaker 4: I fight with Rob about, like and I understand where.

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Speaker 3: Robing Julia Carson was much better than right.

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Speaker 4: He didn't want to say, you know, the grandson's name,

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Speaker 2: And look, I'm not here to crap on Rob, because

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Speaker 3: I've heard it.

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Speaker 4: Let's go to Larry. Larry, welcome to the hammer In Nigel.

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Speaker 4: Turn your radio down, Larry, Am.

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Speaker 7: Already, it's alrighty, It's all righty off, let me set up.

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Speaker 7: I had a real good time yesterday. I had a

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Speaker 7: I don't know what's wrong with him. He turned on

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Speaker 7: You know how they set it up. I had my life.

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Speaker 3: Are you talking about the redistricting yesterday.

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Speaker 7: That's a shame what they've done. They exploit anybody. But

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, Larry. Listen.

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Speaker 4: Let the record clearly state I'm with Larry on this one.

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Speaker 4: I hate taxpayer money going to defend Boss Hawk setting

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Speaker 2: Right on, brother, hey, I appreciate that, Larry. Let's go

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Speaker 2: to Duane. Dwayne is up next. What you got, brother, hey?

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Speaker 7: I am from southern Indiana.

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Speaker 5: And just so Allison knows, I'm fullying gorge.

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Speaker 7: For her.

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Speaker 2: Okay to hear that, Allison, that is noted. Thank you, Dwaine.

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Speaker 4: Mark the tape. I fully expect that to be on

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Speaker 4: the montage this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Fully George to just let Alison know that.

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Speaker 7: Please.

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Speaker 4: How many times do somebody said that to you, Allison

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Speaker 2: Well, one's too many Hammers.

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Speaker 1: What else you got, Dwayne, I am absolutely sick of

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Speaker 5: Are quote unquote representatives suck.

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Speaker 6: And we have to fix this.

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Speaker 2: Well that means showing up for local elections.

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Speaker 4: Like more often than not, it's a primary issue than

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Speaker 4: it is a general election, because normally your general election.

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Speaker 2: Is a giant duce versus turn Sandra.

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Speaker 7: That is exactly right.

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Speaker 6: Hammer.

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Speaker 7: The primary are the only way.

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Speaker 1: We fixed it.

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Speaker 2: Gotta get people to show up.

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Speaker 4: Man, tell your friends, tell your family, tell whoever you got.

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Speaker 4: You gotta show up for non presidential elections and your

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Speaker 4: local elections. Those are the people that steal your money first.

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Speaker 4: They're closer to your wallet than the people in Washington.

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Speaker 4: That's what we try to tell people, Dwayne, Thank you

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Speaker 4: so much. Ryan is up next, Ryan, Welcome to the

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Speaker 5: Hey good Yeah, longtime listener.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to say, Allison, don't put up with

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Should have a choice, Alison, likes the crap, like there's

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Speaker 1: Thanks, Ryan, Yeah, no problem.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, just the whole redistricting redistricting thing is, it's a

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Speaker 2: Are you for it or against it?

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Speaker 5: Ryan, I'm not for it nor against it.

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Speaker 6: I think it could be a good thing. It could

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Speaker 3: Just well, I think one of the I think it

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Speaker 2: Way, right right when the seats.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, now, Marion County is a lost cause because it's

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Speaker 4: one election after election. Now, granted, the Republicans have put

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Speaker 4: he decides to be a gun grabber, which completely alienates

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Speaker 4: don't care. How many people listenings lives are not going

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Speaker 3: The Every one of these calls has been about redistricting.

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Speaker 2: Though true, very true. Let me go to John John.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Hammer of Nigel Show. What you got

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Speaker 2: John Nice?

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Speaker 5: Thanks for taking my call. Hey, I'm I'm a long

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Speaker 5: time listener. Uh listen coming home from work? While I worked,

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Speaker 5: and as retire, you still listen. But I I have

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Speaker 5: a concern. And it may be that I'm a prude,

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Speaker 5: but I wonder about the big emphasis on drinking, and

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Speaker 5: especially drinking to excess. On your show. You talk about

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Speaker 5: drinking while you're on duty. They talking booze news. You

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Speaker 5: have reason to drink tonight, have beer sample Friday? I mean, uh, I, John,

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Speaker 3: Are you an in biber? Are you recovering?

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Speaker 5: No? A very light drinker?

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Speaker 4: So Nigel, let you handle this one, as you're more

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Speaker 3: Hey man, John. Some of it's theater of the mind.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie to you. Like we had huge

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Speaker 2: It wasn't that big a deal.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes in the back we'll have, uh, you know, in

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Speaker 2: And it's moderation too.

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Speaker 4: Like sure, Nige and I may drink a little bit

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Speaker 3: Like when we had when we did the bowling thing

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Speaker 3: He did not have a drink and I it was

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Speaker 4: And you know, now you did the bit really well

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Speaker 2: You couldn't have.

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Speaker 3: Driven yourself's the way I could have driven myself.

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Speaker 4: No, but listen, John, long story short, and I appreciate

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Speaker 4: the concern John, John, and I get it I'm a

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Speaker 2: I can handle my booze. Some people can. Hell, let's

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Speaker 4: We talked to Matt Bear every Friday, and he gives

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Speaker 4: you a different perspective exactly.

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Speaker 3: Matt Bear's a recovering alcoholic and he gives us a

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Speaker 2: The way I see it, life can be pretty tough.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: You've been working all day.

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Speaker 4: Maybe the old lady yelling at you, maybe you're having

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Speaker 4: girl problems. I don't know, but having a beverage from

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Speaker 4: this crazy world, I'm not gonna judge you for it

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Speaker 4: because I do the exact same thing. It's a hell

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Speaker 2: I agree with that. Dan gets the last word here, Dan,

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Speaker 2: What you got?

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Speaker 7: Hey, guys, how are you doing good?

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Speaker 3: Dan? I'm doing good myself. Hey, I wanted to I

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Speaker 3: know Thanksgiving just finished, but I wanted to get y'all's

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Speaker 4: Well at Thanksgiving, I'm team Turkey. Like I'm a traditional guy,

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Speaker 4: I don't care about ham either way. If you want

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Speaker 4: to have ham at Christmas or Easter, okay, that's fine.

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Speaker 4: But Thanksgiving is turkey. You have to do it. It's

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Speaker 4: almost the law. It's a tradition. Don't give me some

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Speaker 4: sort of chicken palm. Don't give me a ham. Tony

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Speaker 4: Katz was trying to push chicken parm one year. No,

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Speaker 4: it's got to be a turkey at Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: I'm a traditionalist though. That's me all right. Thank you

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Speaker 4: guys so much for your phone calls. Pretty good round

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Speaker 4: of calls, right, There a lot of different topics.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.