1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: In the vibrant city of Elizabeth, New Jersey. A devoted 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: mother beams with bride as she nurtures her four children. 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: Life is beautifully unfolding, filled with love and cherished moments 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: when everything changes in the blink of an eye. A 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: night out for fun spirals into mystery as she suddenly vanishes. 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: What happened that evening and what happens when love becomes fatal. 7 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: This is a Fatal Attraction podcast with Chasing Justice. 8 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: March twenty seventh, twenty sixteen. It's Easter Sunday in Elizabeth, 9 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: New Jersey, a gritty industrial city tucked between Newark and 10 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: Staten Island. 11 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: Elizabeth is a very diverse community, with a lot of 12 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 3: Afro Americans, Italian Americans, and Hispanic Americans. 13 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 4: We're populated at around one hundred and forty thousand, which 14 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 4: means that we have all the problems of any major 15 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 4: urban city. 16 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 5: You don't know what's gonna happen anytime day or the night. 17 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 5: It's never seen. 18 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 2: Although at first the call that comes in at six 19 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: o'clock that evening seems relatively routine. 20 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 5: I'm calling because I'm family has been trying to get 21 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 5: a hold of twenty six year old Trini's Johnson since 22 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 5: the early afternoon. My mom called me. She said, have 23 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 5: you spoke to her sister? I said no. She's like, well, 24 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 5: she normally call us every morning on video chat, and 25 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 5: this morning she didn't call me. So my aunt says, 26 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 5: she yet trying. 27 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 6: To call her. 28 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 4: This is very uncharacteristic of her. She wouldn't just go 29 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 4: off and not respond to the multiple calls. 30 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 5: Open up, I'll call my sister Jaquetta, and the said, Quetta, 31 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 5: come on, we're going to see if we could get 32 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:06,919 Speaker 5: into t t house. 33 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 4: When they were unable to get in, they called nine 34 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 4: one one to put an alert about what's going on. 35 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 7: I'm here at her. 36 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 8: A partner he had seen the. 37 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 7: Her sister was feeling scared, nervous, anxious, and they wanted 38 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 7: the police to do a wellness check the. 39 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 9: Last time everybody that she was home. 40 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 10: Okay, all right, I'll send police officers over. 41 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 4: Okay. 42 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: For Trenise Johnson, family was everything. 43 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 5: She loved her family. She always was the one that 44 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 5: kept our family together. 45 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 4: She comes from a family of ten siblings and they 46 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 4: were all very close. 47 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 5: She the one that would throw the events for all 48 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 5: of us, you know, to have a good That's who 49 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 5: she was. 50 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: Though she grew up in a tough neighborhood, Tranise always 51 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: kept a good head on her shoulders. 52 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 5: Trenise liked it, already had fun, but she always was 53 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 5: a hard working woman, very smart, very intelligent. 54 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 2: But what made Trani's happiest were her children. 55 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 5: She had three boys. She was a great mom. She 56 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 5: took care of her kids very well. They always did 57 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 5: fun activities. 58 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: Being a single mom wasn't always easy, but there wasn't 59 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: anything Trenise wouldn't do for her children. 60 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 4: The financial strains of raising three children as a single 61 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 4: mom is tough, but she was working at a grocery store. 62 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 4: She had been there for six years. 63 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 11: She was definitely dedicated to ensuring that her children were 64 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 11: taken care of. 65 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: And she had a little help raising the boys. 66 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 7: Oh and don't forget take the bust to your dad's house, 67 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 7: Okay after school? 68 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 5: I really I love you. 69 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 8: Though she had separated from the two fathers of her 70 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 8: three children, the men were still in their lives. 71 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 4: They did stay very close and you can tell that 72 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 4: they were in a mature co parenting relationship. 73 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: But in twenty fifteen, Trenise had a new man in 74 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 2: her life Arturo Alonas. 75 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 7: Trenise met Arturo through a mutual friend. 76 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 4: They clicked pretty instantly. 77 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 7: It's fun, it's light, it's super loving. 78 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 4: When you're meeting someone new. We have the butterflies, the 79 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 4: mild anxiety that comes from, oh my god, do they 80 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 4: feel the same way as me? And that's really the 81 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 4: best part, right the falling in love. 82 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: But Trenise had a feeling that her relationship with Arturo 83 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 2: was more than just a passing flame. 84 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 11: He's open and accepting for her and her children. 85 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 7: Archiau seemed to be some that she could raise a 86 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 7: family with. 87 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 4: I have something I gotta tell you. 88 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: It turned out she'd soon have the chance to do 89 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 2: just that. 90 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 7: Trnise and Arturo they got pregnant. 91 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 4: What despite the strains that it poses on a new relationship, 92 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 4: Arturo still stepped up. 93 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: Listen, We're gonna make this work, okay, and I love 94 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: you so much. 95 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 12: I love you too. 96 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 2: And in January of twenty sixteen, Tritanise and Arturo welcome 97 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: the baby girl. 98 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 5: We was tappy for her because she was having her 99 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 5: first daughter. 100 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 4: You can imagine the excitement she felt. There's something special 101 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 4: as a mom to have a daughter She's gonna be 102 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 4: your little best friend. 103 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 11: They were enjoying their new bundle of joy. 104 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 12: They had also started talking about moving in together. 105 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 7: It seemed like it was going to be an amazing 106 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 7: future between the two. 107 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: Only now Trunissa has gone missing and her family has 108 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: called nine to one one and requested a welfare check. 109 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 3: The last time seen that she was home. 110 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 8: Her apartment was the last place she was known to be, 111 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 8: and she wasn't answering the phone or her door. 112 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 9: More family was being notified and they were all showing 113 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:18,799 Speaker 9: up at the location. 114 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 10: I'll send police officers over and they'll see if they 115 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 10: can help you. Fee us out. Okay, okay. 116 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: But while the family waits for the officers to arrive, 117 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: Trenisa's father remembers that he has a key to her apartment. 118 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 7: Trenisa's family was actually able to get into the apartment. 119 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 5: We didn't know what was inside, but I can't feel 120 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 5: things before it happened, and I knew it wasn't nothing good. 121 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: The premonition proves correct for Nate. 122 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 5: Jacquetta was the first one to see her laying on 123 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 5: the floor. 124 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 7: Her hands and feet were bound together. 125 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 4: There there's a plastic bag over her head. 126 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 5: Did you quite have ripped the bag off of her head? 127 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 5: Try to give her CPR. 128 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: But it was too little, too late. 129 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 5: She was already cold, she was already deceased. 130 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: Detectives are on the hunt to find out what happened 131 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: to Trenise Johnson. Then stay with us as we unlock 132 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: the mysteries that lie ahead. This is a Fatal Attraction podcast. 133 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: Already raising three boys, Trinice Johnson had just welcomed a 134 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: little girl into the family with her new boyfriend, Arturo 135 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: Alonas it. 136 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 5: Was her first. 137 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 4: Daughter, you can imagine the excitement she felt. 138 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: But now, just two months after the baby's birth, Journey's 139 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 2: family has made a devastating discovery. 140 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 5: We immediately called the cops and we told them that 141 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 5: my sister was here on the fluid. 142 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 4: She was bound by the hands and by the legs, 143 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 4: with a plastic bag over her head, s doc taped 144 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 4: with a cord of some sort we've been looking for. 145 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 4: There was nothing that could have prepared them for what 146 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 4: they would find in there. 147 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 11: To walk in and to see someone that was full 148 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 11: of life like Trini, someone who loved her family and 149 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 11: was the glue for her family. To see that person 150 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 11: that way is such a shock. It is something that 151 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 11: you can never prepare for. 152 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 4: There was screaming, There was crying, at least one person 153 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 4: who threw themselves on the floor, unable to stand the 154 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 4: gravity of what they were taking in. 155 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: The family is still in shock when police arrived at 156 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 2: the scene minutes. 157 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 4: Later, Hernisa's family were taken out so that they can 158 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 4: secure the crime scene. 159 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 5: The crime scene detectives everybody was there throughing the investigation. 160 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 2: But there is nothing they can do for Trenise. She 161 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: was pronounced dead, but why was she killed? 162 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 12: Where she lived was one of the biggest public housing 163 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 12: projects in the city. 164 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 5: It was a lot of crimes, a lot of drug dealing. 165 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 8: Detectives had to consider the possibility that this was a 166 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 8: random crime. 167 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 2: But after looking around the apartment, that appears unlikely. 168 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 10: There was no signs of breaking. 169 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 9: Ternes's cell phone and wallet were missing, but other valuables remained. 170 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 4: Other than a body on there was just nothing that 171 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 4: was remarkable about the crime scene. 172 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: However, the state of Trannis's body does tell detectives something 173 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: about the crime. 174 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 10: Policing. 175 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 3: The bag of her head that was a deliberate so 176 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: she couldn't breathe. She couldn't scream, her hands, her feet 177 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 3: were bound, so she couldn't run, She couldn't get away. 178 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 12: This wasn't a smash and grab robbery gone wrong. Whoever 179 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 12: killed Chinese had essentially tortured her. 180 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 10: It was personal. It was someone that she knew. 181 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: Detectives hope the family can eventually shed some light on 182 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: who might do such a thing to Trinise, but they're 183 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 2: currently too distraught to talk. 184 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 4: Imagine as a father walking into your daughter's apartment and 185 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 4: finding her dad, you are not going to be in 186 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 4: any condition to be able to answer questions. It would 187 00:10:55,640 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 4: take an extreme amount of resilience to be able to 188 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 4: do that. 189 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: The only person able to speak with detectives is Trenisa's cousin, Jason. 190 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 8: We're real sorry, folks, I believe she goes Who's this? 191 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 7: At the club last night? 192 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 8: Jason had been out with Trenise and her sisters the 193 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 8: night before. 194 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 10: Who's her birthday? 195 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 11: You have a mom of four that wants to celebrate 196 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 11: and have a good time. She had her three boys 197 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 11: and at brand new newborn, and all the stresses of that. 198 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 11: She wanted to go let her hair down, enjoy herself. 199 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 7: They were having a grand time. Going out celebrating her, celebrating. 200 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 4: Life, and then she caught your somebody's eye. 201 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 11: Trenise was a beautiful girl, right, so she got a 202 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 11: lot of attention. 203 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: The man said his name was Demetrius. 204 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 7: Did you get his lost name? 205 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 10: She didn't say. 206 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 7: Demetrius was buying Tenise dreings, giving her a lot of attention, 207 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 7: typical behavior that you see from a man who's interested 208 00:11:59,480 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 7: in a woman. 209 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: The club, your niece had been flattered. 210 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 11: Tenise was just a few months postpartum, right, and so 211 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 11: oftentimes women are not feeling like themselves, so to be 212 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 11: in a space where they're getting attention makes them feel like, hey, 213 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 11: I still got it. 214 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: But according to her cousin, that was as far as 215 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: it went. 216 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 6: So what do you say? 217 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 4: What you got it? Oh, I'm sorry, I can't, I can't. 218 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 4: She did inform him that she was seeing someone. 219 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 11: The boundary was there. Hey, I'm not interested in anything more. 220 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 11: I'm here tonight to have a good time. 221 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 8: Well that's all I'm talking about having a good time. 222 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 9: According to Tnise's cousin, Demetrius didn't want to take no 223 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 9: for an answer. 224 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 4: But if you've ever been to the club, you know 225 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 4: that there's always going to be someone that's going to 226 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 4: try to buy your drinks, et cetera. And sometimes there's 227 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 4: this notion that with those drinks there comes an exchange 228 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 4: of sorts and transaction, right buying your drinks and should 229 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 4: at least buy me something. 230 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: Later on, her cousin says that Tranise had eventually had enough. 231 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 7: Trenise decided to ghost Demetrius at the bar. 232 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 12: While he was buying another round of drinks. Trenise, her cousin, 233 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 12: and her sisters had quietly slipped out without telling him. 234 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 2: Trenisa's cousin says they left it a little after two 235 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning. 236 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 5: My cousin dropped my sister off that home. 237 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 10: You didn't go in with her. 238 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 7: She told me she was good. 239 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 5: My sister called my cousin when she entered her home 240 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 5: and said, I'm in the house. You can go home. 241 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 2: But detectives know that Trenisa's night was far from over. 242 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 7: Police were trying to figure out if she told Demetrius 243 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 7: where she lived or anything of that nature. 244 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 4: This person that was buying them drinks all night could 245 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 4: have followed her home. He could have possibly had this 246 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 4: ego injury. How dare you accept drinks from me and 247 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 4: not give me anything after. Just leave me like this. 248 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 4: He may have engaged in an altercation with her of 249 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 4: some source that led to her death. 250 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 2: Detectives believe they have a person of interest, and while 251 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 2: Trenisi's cousin doesn't know Demetrius's last name, he is able 252 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: to provide them with a physical description. 253 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 7: He did say that Demetrius was a decent looking guy, 254 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 7: light skin, in his thirties and bald. 255 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: After talking to Trenisa's cousin, detectives canvass the housing complex 256 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: looking for possible witnesses. 257 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 4: They come across a neighbor who happened to have been 258 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 4: outside out approximately four am. 259 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 7: While she was smoking a cigarette. She did see a 260 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 7: man leaving Ternese's building. 261 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 12: The description she gave of the man sounded awfully familiar. 262 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 7: He was black, he was light skinned, and he was bald. 263 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: Hidden troops and further mystery lie ahead at Stay tuned 264 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: for more of the Fatal Attraction podcast. 265 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: Detectives investigating the murder of Tranise Johnson suspect they may 266 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: have identified the mother of force Killer. 267 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 8: On the night of the murder, Trenise had gone out 268 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 8: to celebrate her birthday, and she had met a guy 269 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 8: who had came on to her pretty aggressively. 270 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 10: So what do you say we got out of here? 271 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 4: She laughed. She ghosted him. 272 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: And now talking to one of Tranie's neighbors, detectives believed 273 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: the man from the club may have followed her home. 274 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 7: Her neighbor let them know that they did see someone 275 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 7: leaving Ternie's building around four o'clock in the morning the night. 276 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 4: When she was asked to describe him, he was tall, bald, 277 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 4: light skinned. 278 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 7: Detectives do believe that this could be a match to Demetrius. 279 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: Before leaving, detectives note a nearby security camera. 280 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 7: Do you tell us we're leasing offices? 281 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 4: The next step is we got to corroborate the stort, 282 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 4: So the detectives go over to the leasing office to 283 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 4: get the footage. 284 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 9: The office manager was able to give them a copy 285 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 9: of their security camera footage from the night before. 286 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: Back at the station, detectives find exactly what they're looking for. 287 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 7: They did see a black man bald light skin walk 288 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 7: across the courtyard at a round four am. 289 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,239 Speaker 4: They weren't able to tell what it was though. 290 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: It's dark and the man in the foot is far 291 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: from the camera. 292 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 4: They couldn't see clearly, but they did see this person. 293 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 2: But who is he exactly? All the detectives know is 294 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: that the man from the club told Trenise his name 295 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: was Demetrius. 296 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 12: They didn't know his last name or even if Demetrius 297 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 12: was his real first name. 298 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: The following morning, detectives decide to pay a visit to 299 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: the club. 300 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,719 Speaker 7: They decided to go to the club to see they 301 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 7: can find out any information that they could about Demetrius. 302 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 4: They have demetrius description, so they questioned the. 303 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 11: Staff, you might have been here with this woman. 304 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: Detectives are in luck. 305 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 4: They're like, oh, yeah, you know. Bad guy. Yeah, we've 306 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 4: seen him here, comes off them. Likes to buy the 307 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 4: ladies drinks. 308 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 7: He acts like a player, trying to do what he 309 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 7: can to either take a woman home, get her number, 310 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 7: whatever the case may be. But he does come in often. 311 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 2: But just the detectives think they tracked down the mysterious Demetrius, 312 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 2: they hit a snag. 313 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 7: I don't remember his last name. 314 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 4: He always pays with cash. 315 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 7: She does believe he works at some sort of shipping company. 316 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 4: The airport could have been FedEx ups, but she does 317 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 4: know that much. 318 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: It's the slimmest of leads, but after a few phone 319 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 2: calls it appears to pan out. 320 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 4: They find out that there is a Demetrius Barnes working 321 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 4: at one of the shipping companies as a package sorder. 322 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 7: Detectives did speak to the night shift manager who said 323 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 7: he does fit the description and he was off Saturday. 324 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 4: Night, making it very clear that it is possible that 325 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 4: he could have been the same Demetrius that was at 326 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 4: the bar buying Tournee drinks. 327 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 2: Before bringing him in for questioning, the detectives do a 328 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: little digging on Demetrious Barnes. 329 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 4: And now that they have a last night, they're able 330 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 4: to go through their database. 331 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 8: When they pulled his criminal record, they suggested that they 332 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 8: may be on the right track. 333 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 7: They did find a handful of domestic violence charges one woman. 334 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 4: One victim even went as far as to get a 335 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 4: restraining order against him because she feared him so. 336 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: Much, and the details in the restraining order raise another 337 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: red flag. 338 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 7: The woman who followed the restraining order against Demetrius did 339 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 7: say that he was following her and showing up at 340 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 7: her apartment uninvited. So at this point detectives are very 341 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 7: certain that they want to bring him in for questioning. 342 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 4: We have someone who met Urney's, has domestic violence charges 343 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 4: against him, was ghosted and could have possibly had this 344 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 4: injury to his ego and his pride about how dare 345 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 4: you accept drinks from me and not give me anything 346 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 4: after just lea like this? So we have a possible 347 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 4: motive for him to follow her home. 348 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 7: They think that this is this is our guy. 349 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: But if that's true, Willie Crack once alone in a 350 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: room with detectives. 351 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 10: What's it all about? We need to ask you a 352 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 10: few questions about Trenise Johnson. 353 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 7: Who when they didn't ask him, you know, if they 354 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 7: know Trenise, He says he doesn't know who she is. 355 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: To jug his memory, detective showed Demetrius a photo. 356 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 7: They pressed him a little bit more and try to 357 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 7: remind him of the night. 358 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 4: They're saying, are you sure you didn't know her? You 359 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 4: were seen at the club? 360 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 10: See her name's uh Teries. 361 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 7: He says, Oh yeah, I do. I do remember this woman. 362 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 4: He says, I'm not sure she even told me her name. 363 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 4: She and U con trouble or someone you could say that. 364 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: When detectives revealed that Trenise was murdered, Demetrious. His response 365 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: raised his eyebrows. 366 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 7: Oh that's too bad. 367 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 4: It wasn't the normal response that one would expect. He 368 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 4: wasn't shocked. He was more nonchalant. 369 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 5: That's all you got to say, Hey man, what do 370 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 5: you want? 371 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 4: He's like, well, I only met her the one time. 372 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: Or so he claims. 373 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 7: At this point, detective bring up the domestic abuse charges. 374 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 12: We know you like the show upen places you're not wanted. 375 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 10: See what this is all about. 376 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 7: At this point, something clicks in Demitrius's head where he's like, 377 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 7: I think I know where these these cops are trying 378 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 7: to go with this. 379 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 4: He realizes that they're talking about the restraining order, and 380 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 4: Demetrius becomes very defensive and he says, well, that restraining 381 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 4: order was Baske. 382 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 10: Look, man, you got it all wrong. I had nothing 383 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 10: to do with this. 384 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 11: For Demetrius, it's like, listen, all I did was go 385 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 11: out and meet a pretty woman. 386 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 4: So then they say, well, then what did you do 387 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 4: after the club? And he said, well, I didn't go home. 388 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 2: But he says he didn't go to Tranis's either. 389 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 7: He was disappointed that she ghosted him. He thought that 390 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 7: they were getting somewhere, but the night wasn't over for him. 391 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 7: He did text a woman named Sheila Smallwood to connect 392 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 7: with her after the club. 393 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 5: At two am. 394 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, she's used to This is someone that he texted 395 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 7: this hour normally that he hooks up with. 396 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 4: He says they have this sort of friends with benefits 397 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 4: type hook up relationship. 398 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: When the detectives follow up with Sheila, it appears that 399 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 2: Demetrius is telling the truth. 400 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 4: She's able to corroborate the alibi that yes, he didn't 401 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 4: fact go to her house at that time and stayed 402 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 4: the whole night, didn't leave until about ten am the 403 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 4: next day. 404 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 7: He was not with Trenise at the time that she 405 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 7: was murdered. 406 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 2: Less than twenty five four hours into their investigation, detectives 407 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: have ruled out suspect number one. 408 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 4: Detectives are feeling very frustrated because their one lead has 409 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 4: now vanished. 410 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 2: When detectives receive the results of Trannis's autopsy, they're no 411 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,719 Speaker 2: closer to finding her killer. 412 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 4: There was no DNA evidence and there was no sexual assault, 413 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 4: so there's really no way of crossmatching this to any 414 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 4: one person. 415 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 9: The only thing detectives could really learn was the cause 416 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 9: of death. 417 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 7: She did die from strengulation and aphixiation. 418 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: However, just when the investigation is at an impasse, Tranisa's 419 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 2: father contacts the detectives with a troubling piece of news. 420 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 12: The family hadn't been able to reach Artur Alomas, Tenie's 421 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 12: boyfriend and father of her infant daughter. 422 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 4: He's gone off the radar. They cannot find him anywhere. 423 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 12: He's not answering calls. 424 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 2: It's going to voice, which is especially troubling considering what 425 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: he says. 426 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 8: Next, Trenise had left the baby with Arturo when she 427 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 8: went out to celebrate her birthday. 428 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 11: The family is now at its what's end, So not 429 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 11: only are they, you know, still mourning the loss of Tennis, 430 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 11: but now they're not fully sure where her daughter is. 431 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more of the Fatal Attraction podcast. 432 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 2: Detectives investigating Trenise Johnson's murder have just discovered that her boyfriend, 433 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: are Teruro Alomas, and their baby daughter are missing. 434 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 4: Before going to the bar, Tornise made sure that her 435 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 4: children were being taken care of by their fathers. So 436 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 4: their families going to the different fathers and making sure 437 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 4: that they check in, and they say they've been unable 438 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 4: to reach out Duro this whole time that things have happened. 439 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 12: Detective set police to the Arturo's apartment, and when they 440 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 12: were able to gain access to the apartment, there was 441 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 12: no sign of Arturo and no sign of the baby either. 442 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 4: The family realizes that the baby is by and panic ensues. 443 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 5: I was worried about my niece. I was just in 444 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 5: shocked about the whole situation. 445 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 11: Where is Arturo, but more importantly, where is the baby? 446 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 12: What happens here? 447 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 2: There's one explanation the detectives have to consider. 448 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 4: The detectives ask, well, do you think that Arturo could 449 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 4: have something to do with this? 450 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 2: Trenis's father isn't sure. 451 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 7: The family is basically saying that they don't know. They 452 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 7: don't know if he could have done this or not. 453 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 5: Why would he do that? Why would he take her? 454 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 4: Remember, they don't know how Fudo very long. They know 455 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 4: him about as long as Toornees knows him. 456 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 2: Looking for Leeds, detectives full Arturo's criminal record. 457 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 3: They're looking at the patterns of his life. You want 458 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 3: to see if he has a violent background. 459 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 7: What they find is troubling, and they did find a 460 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 7: lot of charges against him. 461 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 4: Barturos's record shows that he has several several charges from 462 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 4: robbery all the way up to accravated assault. 463 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 2: But that's not all detectives find in our Turo's background check. 464 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 8: The whole time he had been seeing Trenise, Arturno was 465 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 8: married to someone else. 466 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 5: This was something that he kept a secree. 467 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 9: And now detectives wondered if a jealous wife could be 468 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 9: behind the murder and Arturo's disappearance. 469 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 2: The woman's name is Octavia Smith, but when detectives bring 470 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 2: her in for questioning, she says she hasn't seen Arturo 471 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 2: in months. 472 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 7: When we're basically separated. 473 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 12: She said they were only still married because she didn't 474 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 12: have the money to hire a lawyer. 475 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: However, she does admit to knowing about Arturo's relationship with 476 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: Trenise and their baby. 477 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 10: What was your relationship back with Trenise? 478 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 5: There wasn't one. 479 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 7: I've never even talked to her. 480 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 8: And you were jealous that she was with Arturo or 481 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 8: that she met his baby? 482 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 7: Bored no? 483 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 2: But is she telling the truth? 484 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 10: Where were you Saturday night? 485 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 2: At home watching TV? 486 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: Was anyone with you? 487 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 7: My mom? 488 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 12: But she went to bed around midnight? 489 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 11: Babe. 490 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 12: It was kind of a weak alibi since Trenise didn't 491 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 12: even get home until two o'clock in the morning. 492 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: As the detectives in New Jersey or debating whether or 493 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 2: not to rule Arturo's wife out as a suspect, an 494 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: officer six hundred miles to the self is weighing a 495 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 2: different decision. The North Carolina cup is outside the small 496 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 2: town of Salisbury when he spunk something illegal on a 497 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 2: car with New Jersey tags. 498 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,479 Speaker 7: The car who is driving hid blue lights on their bumper. 499 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,479 Speaker 8: The blue lights were a violation since police used bo lights. 500 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 3: And he was also speeding, so something just didn't seem 501 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 3: right with the. 502 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 2: Vehicle switching on his own blue lights. The officer attempts 503 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 2: to stop the driver. 504 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 7: The officer did decide to try to pull over this car. 505 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,719 Speaker 2: But the car doesn't stop. 506 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 4: Instead of slowing down, he attempts to flee. 507 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: Detectives are on the hunt to find out what happened 508 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: to Tranise Johnson. Stay with us as we unlock the 509 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: missies that lie ahead. This is a Fatal Attraction Podcast. 510 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 2: Trenise Johnson's family is confronting the awful possibility that her boyfriend, 511 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 2: Arturo Alomas may have murdered the mother before and disappeared 512 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: with the couple's two month old daughter. 513 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 5: I was so afraid because I didn't know if he 514 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 5: did something to my knees. I didn't know what to think. 515 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 4: You pray, you panic, and then you pray and panic 516 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 4: some morning. 517 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: But while they pray. An officer in North Carolina is 518 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 2: attempting to pull over a suspicious vehicle with new Jersey tags. 519 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 9: He initially tried to pull the car over because it 520 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 9: had those illegal blue lights. 521 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 7: The driver did not pull over and tried to flee. 522 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 10: This a lot of times. 523 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 3: When you attempt to pull the car over and the 524 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 3: vehicles you're using to stop, you're hiding narcotics in the car, 525 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 3: you're hiding. 526 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 10: A weapon in the car, or they're fleeing. They're fleeing something. 527 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 4: The police have to get this car stopped. 528 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 2: After calling in back up, the officer pulls in tight 529 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 2: on the fleeing car to perform what's known as a 530 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 2: precision and mobilization technique. 531 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 12: The pit maneuver is basically the old bump and run 532 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 12: maneuver from Nascar, where you nudge the car you're chasing, 533 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 12: leading the car to temporarily lose control. 534 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 8: The car's spun, and then came to a stopping meeting with. 535 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 2: The fleeing car momentarily stopped. The officers move in. 536 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 9: They cut him off so we couldn't go anywhere, and 537 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 9: then they ordered him out of the vehicle. 538 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 6: Shum me, your hands come on out, step out of 539 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 6: the vehicle. 540 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 4: Lights are going. It's a very tense moment. 541 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,479 Speaker 7: The driver does get out of the car and it's 542 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 7: instantly put into handcuffs. 543 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 2: It's only then that the officer realizes there is someone 544 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 2: else in the car. 545 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 4: There is an infant, a baby in the back seat. 546 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 5: She was in a car, not Stretten, no car. See. 547 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 4: They start asking who is this child? He identifies her 548 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 4: as his daughter. 549 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 6: What's your name? 550 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 8: Man? 551 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 13: I'll At that point, the police officer did search the 552 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 13: car and they see a lot of bags packed in 553 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 13: the car, a lot of baby bags with bottles and 554 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 13: different types of supplies that you need for a. 555 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 4: Baby, meaning that he was preparing for a long trip. 556 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 2: The officer also searches through the cars glovebox. 557 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 7: They did see that the car was registered under Trenise's name. 558 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 6: Who's Trenise Johnson. 559 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 4: That's my girlfriend, that's her car. 560 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 12: It was true. Tenise did have two cars, one that 561 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 12: police found outside her apartment and another that she let 562 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 12: Artury use. 563 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 2: What else the officer finds inside the car it's tougher 564 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: to explain. 565 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 7: And then the front seat there was a backpack that 566 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 7: had Terenese's cell phone and her wallet. 567 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 4: All of this is giving red. 568 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 7: Flags, so they do ask where's Tenise? 569 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 6: Where's Treenise at Nise? Yeah, your girlfriend, this stuff belongs to. 570 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 4: Her, right The police don't know what has happened in 571 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 4: New Jersey. 572 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 7: They don't know was murdered. 573 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 8: It was only after he had been pulled over. But 574 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 8: he realized that they didn't know everything. 575 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 2: So Arturo attempts to buy himself more time. 576 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 10: We got into an argument. I let her out a 577 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 10: couple miles back. 578 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 5: He told them that he left my sister walking up 579 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 5: the highway because they had an argument. 580 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 6: So she got out, where'd you leave her at? 581 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 10: Right past the store. We had to realize that they 582 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 10: were going to find out. 583 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: Hidden troops and further mystery line ahead. 584 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 6: Show me your hands, come on out. 585 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 2: North Carolina police have just stopped our turo A Loomas 586 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 2: for what started as a minor traffic violation. 587 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 9: The trooper initially was going to stop him for those 588 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 9: illegal blue lights, but then he fled, and when they 589 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 9: finally stopped him, they realized he had an unsecured infant. 590 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 7: Right in the back seat. 591 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 4: Whose baby is that they charge him with felony, speeding 592 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 4: to a loud arrest, reckless driving, and child and genderment. 593 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 2: However, the authorities in North Carolina soon learn that our 594 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 2: Touro may be guilty of far more. 595 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 4: It's not until they take him over to the jailed 596 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 4: and start the booking process that they learned that he 597 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 4: is wanted is a person of interest in the death 598 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 4: of Toornise Johnson. 599 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 11: So this has gone from a routine traffic stop to 600 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 11: a multi state case. 601 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 2: Word of our Touro's arrest soon reaches the authorities in 602 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 2: New Jersey and Trenisi's family. 603 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 5: And they tell us that they have a Torom in custody. 604 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 5: And I was relief because he got caught and because 605 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 5: my niece was safe. 606 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 2: And sound, But the family remains sickened by the realization 607 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 2: of what Arturo has done. 608 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 5: Why would he do that to her? Why would he 609 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 5: take her from her kids. 610 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 2: Based on the evidence from the traffic stop, detectives have 611 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 2: little doubt that our Turo killed Trenise. 612 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 10: Why did he have her phone, why her belongings, and. 613 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 12: Why would he tell the trooper that he'd left Trenise 614 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:12,439 Speaker 12: on the side of the road. 615 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 4: He's being asked about her explicitly, and rather than coming clean, 616 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 4: he will do anything in order to get away from 617 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 4: the police and out of this situation. 618 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 2: Detectives also work to place Arturo at the scene of 619 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 2: the crime. 620 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 7: They bring the neighbor in who said that they did 621 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 7: see someone in the courtyard and they show a photo 622 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 7: lineup of several men and she picks out our Turo. 623 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 4: She identifies him as the man that she saw crossing 624 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 4: the courtyard that Sunday morning at four am. 625 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 2: Prosecutors charge our Turo with murder and extradite him back 626 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 2: to New Jersey. When he goes on trial in August 627 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 2: of two thousand and eight, the family is determined to 628 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 2: see that justice is served. 629 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 5: I was pregnant with my daughter, but I made sure 630 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 5: I made every appearance in court. 631 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 2: In their opening statement, prosecutors argue that Trianie's murder was 632 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 2: a clear case of jealousy. 633 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 5: Basically, he was upset because she went out for her birthday. 634 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 5: He seen the videos on social media. 635 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 11: When you have a person that's controlling to see your partner, 636 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 11: you know, at a club where there are other potential 637 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 11: people that may be looking at them. It causes the 638 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 11: person to feel that they are being violated. 639 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 10: There are men. 640 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 3: Who become very jealous if they think that she is 641 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 3: out with someone else. 642 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 2: The prosecutors theorize that when Tranie returned home from the club, 643 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,439 Speaker 2: are True was waiting, what are. 644 00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 7: You doing in here? 645 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 10: You join? He was just jealous, just enraged. 646 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 5: All she did was walk into the living room and 647 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 5: he attacks her. 648 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 7: And it did escalate to the point where arturoll did 649 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 7: strangle Trenise. 650 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 5: He had no reason to do what he did to 651 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 5: my sister. Nothing in this world will help me or 652 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 5: make me understand. 653 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 2: Why Arturo's brutality didn't end there either. 654 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 7: Instead of leaving her for that, arturerou did tie her 655 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 7: up and put a plastic bag over her head, just 656 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 7: in case the strangulation wasn't enough. 657 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 4: Even if she was just knocked out and came too 658 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 4: later on, she wouldn't be able to breathe. 659 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 2: Then, leaving Trenise to die, Arturo fled with their daughter. 660 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 11: This This man committed this heinous crime against the mother 661 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 11: of his child and also took his baby along with 662 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 11: him for the ride. 663 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 4: They go to North Carolina, and oddly enough, he was 664 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 4: running to North Carolina to go see his own mother. 665 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 7: It is very ironic that he decides to rob four 666 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 7: children of their mother, someone who is supposed to be 667 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 7: the woman that they can go to, they can run 668 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 7: to when they're in trouble. Just for him to go 669 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 7: to his mom when he's in trouble and run to 670 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 7: her knowing that she'd be there for him. 671 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 2: But now Arturo's running is over. 672 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 7: The jury does find Arturo guilty of the murder of Trenis. 673 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 9: The judge sentenced him to seventy five years in prison. 674 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 2: It's essentially a life sentence. 675 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 4: He has to serve eighty five percent of that sentence 676 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 4: as before he's eligible for parole. 677 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 3: He'll be ninety eight when he is even eligible for parole. 678 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 5: Hopefully he will die in jail and he won't be 679 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 5: able to have freedom again. To me, he should have 680 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 5: got the death penalty because he took my sister life. 681 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 2: But nothing will ever bring Trini's back to her children. 682 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 5: And they miss their mother each and every day, each 683 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 5: and every day, no matter how many years it may 684 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 5: be they didn't get the chance to grow with her. 685 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 5: Now they got to grow without her. 686 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 11: My prayer for Trina's three sons and daughter is that 687 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 11: they find peace. Closure is not possible with the situation 688 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 11: like this, but my prayer is that they're in an 689 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 11: environment with family that is able to love on them. 690 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 5: She may not be here physically, but she definitely is 691 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 5: here spiritually. She see everything that goes on. She know 692 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 5: everything that goes on. She is our guardian angel. 693 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 1: A night of fun should never have led to such 694 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 1: a tragedy. The events surrounding what happened to Tranise Johnson 695 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: are unimaginable and deeply saddening. A mother, a daughter, and 696 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: a sister, Tranise Johnson gone too soon. Tranise's light and 697 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: vibrancy will forever live on in the hearts of her 698 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: children and those who loved her. Coming up of the 699 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: next episode of the Fatal Attraction podcast. 700 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 2: He was a rising star on the local music scene. 701 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 4: He was known throughout the community the type of guy 702 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 4: that men wanted to be and women wanted to be with. 703 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 2: But he was more than just a local celebrity. 704 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 8: He was raising his vorder on his own He was 705 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 8: a good person, just doing right by the community and 706 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 8: his family. 707 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 2: So when he's gunned down, shock waves rolled through the 708 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 2: whole town. 709 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 10: Please find him, lifeless in her arms. 710 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 5: Who would kill this man in cold blood? 711 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 1: A devoted family man, a nurturing father, a creative force, 712 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: a DJ and a beacon of inspiration who left a 713 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 1: lasting impact on the lives of everyone who had the 714 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: privilege of knowing him. However, without warning, the sound of 715 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 1: gunshots echoes too close for comfort. Tune in to the 716 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: next episode of the Fatal Attraction podcast. We will see 717 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 1: you in the next episode.