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Speaker 1: Good morning everyone, Happy Friday, Thank you all for tuning in,

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Speaker 1: and we are back in studio.

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Speaker 2: At least I am. I set up for work.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about Kevin Bowing and Jeff Fricker. We

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Speaker 1: have Greg Rigstraw filling in.

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Speaker 3: Greg. How you doing? So apparently I'm filling in for

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Speaker 3: like at least two or three people because I hear

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Speaker 3: KB no, JB Yes, Jeff No, the Diggity Diggity d

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Speaker 3: likedon No. Caleb Zuber is in for him, So Caleb,

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Speaker 3: Caleb and myself. We've lost a lot of hair on

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Speaker 3: the program so far this morning, but I have been

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Speaker 3: known to fill a variety of roles, So apparently I'm

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Speaker 3: filling in for two people. And maybe from a weight ratio,

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Speaker 3: it's the same amount of poundage on the show that

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Speaker 3: we would normally have. Oh no, especially after Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Death, I can't go that far, but yeah I can.

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Speaker 3: Lozangnie was really good last night.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: I definitely enjoyed the family meal on Christmas Day. Happy

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Speaker 1: belated Merry Christmas to everybody out there listening. And I

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Speaker 1: guess we'll got right into a rake. I know, at

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Speaker 1: least for me in my world, I'm torn between Colts

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Speaker 1: fans wanting the team to win as a Christmas gift

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Speaker 1: or one in the lose out and blow this whole

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Speaker 1: thing up. So the last time we checked in with

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Speaker 1: you all, we're getting ready for practice, and really there

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Speaker 1: hasn't been much of a development and change other than

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Speaker 1: the fact that Shane Styke and again has committed to

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers being the starter for this team, regardless of

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Speaker 1: what happens comes Sunday or come Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Actually right, and I understand that. First of all, it

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Speaker 3: is a short week. Secondarily, now you throw in Christmas

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Speaker 3: where the guys did not practice yesterday, so the players

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Speaker 3: had a walk through Wednesday, We'll have a practice or

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Speaker 3: as much of a air quotes practice as you're going

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Speaker 3: to have going into week number seventeen. Basically nothing tomorrow

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Speaker 3: and go play the game on Saturday. You have zero

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Speaker 3: time to have two different game plans. So, in other words,

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Speaker 3: if the Texans win on Saturday and the Colts are

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Speaker 3: officially eliminated before they take the field against the Jats,

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Speaker 3: I understand giving the ball to Philip Rivers. Now we

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Speaker 3: have a different conversation for next week. If that game

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Speaker 3: is meaningless for the Indianapolis Colts by what happens on

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Speaker 3: Saturday or by what happens on Sunday in terms of

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Speaker 3: giving the ball to Anthony Richardson and or Riley Leonard

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Speaker 3: for week eighteen. But yes, given the time, the circumstance,

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Speaker 3: this is the proper move. If Philip Rivers is going

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Speaker 3: to be your guy, then you don't have time to

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Speaker 3: have a backup game plan to give the ball to

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Speaker 1: So, Caleb, I know that you and your dad are

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Speaker 1: diehard Colts fans, as many of the listeners are. Are

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Speaker 1: you okay with them sticking with Philip Rivers despite the

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Speaker 1: minuscule chance of them getting into the dance?

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Speaker 4: I think so because I just think at this point,

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Speaker 4: like I feel like last week's performance, he's playing actually

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Speaker 3: Him out there again.

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Speaker 4: I think when you see him on again, I still

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Speaker 4: can't believe it was third and goal from the nineteen

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Speaker 3: It blows my mind.

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Speaker 4: But he deserves credit for that, and so yeah, I

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Speaker 4: think I would be okay rolling with it. And Greg

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Speaker 4: whole new game plan in what twelve hours when you

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Speaker 4: might find out that you're not eligible for the playoffs anymore.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm good with it, and I think one

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Speaker 4: you're reevaluate after that.

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Speaker 3: Jab think about how divergent the game plans were last

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Speaker 3: Now I want you to multiply that by a time

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Speaker 3: of about fifty in terms of what it would look

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Speaker 3: So yeah, and again, you have two less days with

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Speaker 3: I'm sure this is not in Shane Steichen's you know,

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Speaker 3: when front of Indianapolis Colts fans, knowing you're on the

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Speaker 3: And again, frankly, if Anthony Richardson can play and next

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Speaker 3: You need almost almost you look a preseason game.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say it sounds like I let the

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Speaker 3: And let's face it, you are talking to the ultimate

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Speaker 3: preseason expert right here. I know how game plans break

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Speaker 3: down in terms of the preseason, and there is precedent

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Speaker 3: the twenty fifteen season. Now, this was necessity was the

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Speaker 3: mother of invention. This predates your time with the Indianapolis Colts,

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Speaker 3: and you young, and you're probably in college when this happened.

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Speaker 3: But the Colts went through Andrew Luck and then went

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Speaker 3: So exactly, so, anyway, if next week means nothing, then

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Speaker 3: you should not have Philip Rivers out there. You need

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Speaker 3: you need to play Anthony Richardson again if he is

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Speaker 3: medically cleared to play, because, as you know, asking Shane

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we can definitely try clarify some of

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Speaker 1: this is a classic case of in Anthony's position, every

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Speaker 1: slightly different. But the bottom line is what I understand,

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Speaker 1: And I think Anthony actually admitted this himself talking to him.

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Speaker 1: And I think everyone online, at least in my world

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, eh, no, major limitations implied. You sell limitations,

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Speaker 2: So I think that's a frustrating.

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Speaker 1: Nuance for the fan base, Greg, But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: I have to be the bearer of bad news and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know again, when Shane says we're not going to

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Speaker 2: So we'll get into more of that throughout the show.

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 1: I think that it is a commerce to have when

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Speaker 1: it comes to the quarterback position, even going into next year,

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Speaker 1: like what the heck do you do? And things of

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Speaker 1: that nature. But we'll break down all the scenarios I'm

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Speaker 1: sure of how they can get in. It does start

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Speaker 1: with fittingly having to cheer for the Chargers, which Philli

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Speaker 1: Rivers did tell us. We'll play some of the audio

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Speaker 1: later Caleb about how he didn't have to, you know,

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Speaker 1: So that'll be I think a big part of it.

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Speaker 1: If other things will cover obviously Pacers as they were

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Speaker 3: A win of a different variety. He so JB. When

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Speaker 3: we refer to the standings in the Eastern Conference, now, okay, okay,

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Speaker 3: first place is the Washington Wizards at five and twenty three.

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Speaker 3: The Pacers are only a game out of first. That's

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Speaker 3: the way the standings need to read. Of course, this

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Speaker 3: It's also the way Western Conference thing. The good news

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Speaker 3: the Pacers are currently in second in the entire NBA

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Speaker 3: in the race to the bottom for the number one

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Speaker 3: for the first time in the history of the franchise.

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Speaker 4: Greg, You're right that Pacer win against Sacramento a few

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Speaker 3: That's what you get for trying how that's what you

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Speaker 1: SA I'll be sure we re lay this message to

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Speaker 1: Rick caralout whenever he's on their waves next time, and

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Speaker 1: something like that. So it is something to think about,

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Speaker 1: you know, Miles Turner, I guess gets the last laugh

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Speaker 1: for that game, perhaps even this season. But at the

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Speaker 1: same time, it's rough. It's just different seeing the switches

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Speaker 3: If Tyrese Haliburta not been hurt, they would have been

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Speaker 3: obviously given health, given how last year would have ended

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Speaker 3: if they win or get beat in six and the

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Speaker 4: Do you think they would have put him Pacers bucks

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Speaker 3: Well, well, again, this is this is the butterfly effect.

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Speaker 3: This is the domino effect. If he doesn't get hurt,

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Speaker 3: and this team is I don't know if they could

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Speaker 3: have replicated last year's success because clearly there have been

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Speaker 3: overuse injuries. And this is what makes what the Thunder

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Speaker 3: more impressive, because once you make those deep runs in

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: Would they be far better than six and twenty four? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Would they have been on Christmas Day for the first

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Speaker 3: time since seemingly I don't know, twenty years ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because the Christmas Day game that stands out in my mind,

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Speaker 3: and since I'm making references for when James was in

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Speaker 3: know what Romeoville Elementary school he went to twenty years

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Speaker 3: ago Herminston, but the return game for Jermaine O'Neil after

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure he's going on tour becoming a full

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Speaker 2: You were there.

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Speaker 3: You were not only eight and two, you're up twenty

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Speaker 1: can say. Hey, injuries are a part of it. But

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Speaker 1: I understand there's probably some listeners going James, this is

438
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Speaker 1: year nine, Chris Balor.

439
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Speaker 3: There there are two different there are two different outlooks.

440
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Speaker 3: There are two different you know, reset button options. There's

441
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Speaker 3: frankly three different reset button options at this point, which

442
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,120
Speaker 3: will be the primary topic of conversation for the next

443
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Speaker 3: seven days, likely in the city and on these microphones

444
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Speaker 3: that we are using here. But in terms of the

445
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 3: decision as to what to do, are you looking at

446
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 3: this three one year lens or a nine year lens.

447
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 3: If you're looking at this three one year lens, you go,

448
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 3: all right, I get it. This team was eight and two,

449
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 3: This team was seven to one. This team was on

450
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Speaker 3: an historic offensive clip before your quarterback got hurt. Then

451
00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 3: your quarterback suffered a season ending injury. Other injuries played

452
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Speaker 3: a part. You played a very tough schedule down the stretch,

453
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Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. It's easy to explain away the

454
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 3: flaws of twenty twenty five. What it's tougher to do

455
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Speaker 3: is to explain away eleven years without a division championship,

456
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Speaker 3: seven years since you want a playoff game, or five

457
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 3: years since you participated in a playoff game, And so

458
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Speaker 3: it's really, are you taking a four month view or

459
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Speaker 3: are you taking a two month view? Or are you

460
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Speaker 3: taking a decade long view? Because obviously those are two

461
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Speaker 3: very different answers. And it's why when I have said

462
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Speaker 3: this on Cultivator programming, on a phone line talking to

463
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Speaker 3: folks such as yourself, or as you and I are

464
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Speaker 3: looking at each other eye to I having this conversation

465
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Speaker 3: right now when somebody says we think it's gonna happen,

466
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Speaker 3: and I go, I don't know. And the reason being

467
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,479
Speaker 3: is that the person making the decision is a different

468
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Speaker 3: person than the person's making the decision twelve months ago.

469
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Speaker 3: I don't know the answer if things play out the

470
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Speaker 3: way we expect them to this Sunday and next, I

471
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Speaker 3: don't know what's going to happen. And that's the biggest

472
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Speaker 3: reason why we'll.

473
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Speaker 1: Take a quick bit here, but we'll certainly revisit the

474
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Speaker 1: conversation on the other side as well as taking a

475
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Speaker 1: look at Iu. I know he's been off for a while,

476
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 1: but we should probably bring up the fact that they

477
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Speaker 1: do have a playoff game guaranteed coming up here and

478
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 1: about a week or so, so stick what doesn't be

479
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Speaker 1: back here on the fan.

480
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Speaker 3: Now. I got to jump in quickly before James actually

481
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Speaker 3: says something. I was watching his finger so as he's

482
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Speaker 3: doing the head Bob, I even have the white Man overbite.

483
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 3: Listen to Troy here, So is this like the grown

484
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Speaker 3: folks music that you were growing up to? Was this

485
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Speaker 3: like grandparents' music? Because obviously this is like my high

486
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Speaker 3: school days hearing that, and this is usually when I

487
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Speaker 3: got the YouTube playlist going. This is on there at

488
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Speaker 3: some point in time.

489
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say this was like my parents' type

490
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Speaker 2: of music.

491
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And honestly, I'm only nineteen years older than you,

492
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Speaker 3: so that makes a lot of sense.

493
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Speaker 5: There you go.

494
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Speaker 1: So you can't just put too much, you know, age

495
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Speaker 1: on yourself. I will say, going home and hearing some

496
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Speaker 1: of the music were playing for Christmas, It's like, I

497
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Speaker 1: get the inevitable. You don't know nothing about this, you

498
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: ain't heard this before and all.

499
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Speaker 3: And you'll say these things in twenty years, just so

500
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Speaker 3: you know exactly you'll be there eventually.

501
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Speaker 2: I enjoyed it.

502
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Speaker 1: It's funny going home is like stepping back into the

503
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: nineties because my mom has probably made the tree up

504
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: the same way, because she still keeps all the stuff

505
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Speaker 1: that we made.

506
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Speaker 2: When we were like seven or eight.

507
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

508
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Speaker 1: So I see myself at different points of my life

509
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Speaker 1: and I'm just like, so you don't want like the

510
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Speaker 1: very you know, pristine Christmas tree.

511
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Speaker 2: She's like, Nope, I want character.

512
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Speaker 3: I'd say that could also be just going home in

513
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 3: Romeoville too, That is could be that. Yeah, that sauce,

514
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Speaker 3: I am your one friend here that has actually been

515
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Speaker 3: to Romeoville. And this is going to sound like a

516
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 3: life choice, it's not. This is an actual physical location thing.

517
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Speaker 3: When I go to Romeoville, the options were you can

518
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Speaker 3: go to jail or you can go to college. Because

519
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 3: they were right next to each other. So Lewis University

520
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 3: that has been a long time arrival of Milba Mater,

521
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Speaker 3: the University of Indianapolis, is located in Romeoville, which is

522
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Speaker 3: why when I first I met Jay beeB. He's working

523
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Speaker 3: for The Times in Northwest Indiana and his Twitter handles Romeoville.

524
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 3: Kid actually knew exactly where he was talking about, and

525
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 3: so if you took the wrong turn off of the

526
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Speaker 3: highway to get to Lewis University, you ended up going

527
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Speaker 3: to the prison. So when you go to his hometown,

528
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 3: those are his two options. And Lewis is the Flyers

529
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Speaker 3: as their mascot because you can major in aviation there

530
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Speaker 3: and it's literally right next to the airport. So I

531
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Speaker 3: guess there are three options you could and flight risk

532
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Speaker 3: is two different things in terms of the jail, the

533
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Speaker 3: airport or going to college.

534
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Speaker 2: See Caleb, I made it out, you need to make

535
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Speaker 2: a trip up to Romeo. I'll beat the odds man

536
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 2: a very tough place.

537
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Speaker 1: Now you don't just takes definitely not. But I did

538
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Speaker 1: want to touch on this. We were talking about ie you

539
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Speaker 1: a little bit before we went to break and come

540
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Speaker 1: out of the break. One of the things that interests

541
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Speaker 1: me about where the college football landscape is and how

542
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: crazy things are for them. So they will play in

543
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Speaker 1: the biggest game in program history on the first, yes,

544
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Speaker 1: on the second the transfer portal opens.

545
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Speaker 2: And win or lose. You have to be dialed in

546
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Speaker 2: on that.

547
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Speaker 1: And so I was reading throughout the Indie Star and

548
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: to do great work there, and the way Kurt Signetti

549
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Speaker 1: has kind of phrased it is this week off that

550
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Speaker 1: they've had has been really big for them to kind

551
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Speaker 1: of scout the transfer portal and try to target guys

552
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Speaker 1: or think about guys that they might want to have

553
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 1: joined their program to obviously sustain their success. So it's

554
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: so fascinating to me, Rake to understand that you've put

555
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Speaker 1: in all this work to get to this.

556
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Speaker 2: Point and you don't get to breathe. We got to

557
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Speaker 2: breathe a little bit.

558
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Speaker 1: Obviously our jobs are not the same as you know,

559
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Speaker 1: being the head coach of a Big ten program, one

560
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: of the best in the country. You're definitely not. But

561
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Speaker 1: at the same time, there is no rest for the weary.

562
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Speaker 3: No, there's a better rest once you are either eliminated

563
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 3: or win a national championship. Not that the portal windows

564
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 3: have shrunk in terms of the time in which you

565
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 3: are dealing with this, and for the first time in

566
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Speaker 3: the history of the football program, Indiana's dealing from a

567
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 3: position of power. Like as you talk about the transfer

568
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Speaker 3: portal being open, all I think about are Winthorpe and

569
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 3: Valentine and trading places. It would be Dan Ackroyd and

570
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,719
Speaker 3: Ny Murphy. By the way, just basically go buy one

571
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 3: and everybody is diving in because they want to play

572
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Speaker 3: for Indiana, and Indiana has the resources to pay those

573
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 3: players that want to come play for Indiana. So yes,

574
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Speaker 3: there is an extra added layer of work there. But

575
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 3: believe me, these are the first class problems that you

576
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 3: want to have. That is true.

577
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we put it in that perspective, and you can

578
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Speaker 1: sell it. I mean you can literally sell.

579
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Speaker 3: Literally you can sell we have the better.

580
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have the bad. You're not lying about that.

581
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: We have the best team in the country. Is one

582
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Speaker 1: of your selling points, specially if you win that game,

583
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Speaker 1: and then you can say we just the best player

584
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: too with the Heisman.

585
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: We can tell you, hey, danl.

586
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 3: For here and we'll give you the Heisman. Indiana can

587
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: actually say that that is a factual statement.

588
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Speaker 5: In draft picks too, like they're gonna get so many NFL.

589
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: Number one pick in the draft.

590
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I told you.

591
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Speaker 1: My dad's a Raiders fan, and now he's all on

592
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: board the Fernando Mendoza train, and there is nothing I

593
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: want more than him to avoid the Raiders.

594
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Speaker 2: I feel like that's just a.

595
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Speaker 3: Bad because the Jets are the better option.

596
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Speaker 1: I mean, who are I think it's the Giants right now.

597
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: They wouldn't draft on.

598
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Speaker 3: The correct bags. So those are the two teams at

599
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 3: the bottom of the barrel that clearly would are going

600
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Speaker 3: to go anywhere more.

601
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Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza to find some more eligibility somewhere.

602
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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's out there. We got all kind of loopholes.

603
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: He got twenty five year old twenty six year olds

604
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Speaker 1: playing CUAA football.

605
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Speaker 3: There is a guy that was drafted in the thirty

606
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 3: first pick of the NBA draft that's not gonna be

607
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 3: playing at Baylor University this year for college basketball. Yes,

608
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 3: there's not loopholes because there's no rules anymore. That rules

609
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: don't exist. But you missed that yesterday.

610
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Speaker 1: I missed this, So feel free to fill me in

611
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: a little bit if you have the Cliff Nods versions,

612
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Speaker 1: because I did not know.

613
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 3: He was involved in an NBA trade with Karl Anthony Towns,

614
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: never played a game in the NBA, deemed eligible by

615
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 3: our esteemed friends about fifteen blocks from where you and

616
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Speaker 3: I are having this conversation at the NCAA. Because there

617
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 3: are no rules whatsoever.

618
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Speaker 5: I think he played against Wemby in the Summer League.

619
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Speaker 3: Correct, he has played in the Summer League. But you

620
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 3: know how G League guys are getting college eligibility. Yeah, now,

621
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Speaker 3: oh boy, lay them up, James.

622
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I got Yeah, but the hoop dreams

623
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: aren't dead. I thought they were dead when I was

624
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: like nineteen.

625
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 5: We got some guys playing college basketball.

626
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Speaker 4: I never played college basketball before, and it's just unbelievable.

627
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: This would be like Lebron going back to Ohio State

628
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: after he retires from the NBA or something like.

629
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Speaker 3: This is I'm not sure if it's James Nase. Nase,

630
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure. He was the thirty first pick in

631
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty three NBA draft, did not play college basketball,

632
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: came in from Europe, has played in the Summer League,

633
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 3: played for Barca in the euro League. So again, full

634
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 3: bloe professional. And that's when you started seeing like these

635
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 3: late siees. Even a place like Indiana State as a

636
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 3: player I think from Norway has a player from Belgium.

637
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 3: These are guys that we're playing professional basketball, because this

638
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 3: is now what this is at the college level. Because

639
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 3: if guys getting paid, it's it's not amateur basketball anymore.

640
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 3: And so the theory is, well, he hasn't played in

641
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 3: the NBA, so he is eligible to play in college basketball.

642
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 3: Seven foot, twenty one years of age, trained with Serge

643
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 3: Ibaka in twenty twenty three, and now we'll play for

644
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 3: the Baylor Bears.

645
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Speaker 1: That is unacceptable, but I guess we have to accept

646
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: it because the rules are different and the world is crazy.

647
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,239
Speaker 3: Or you could just not watch. Yeah, that's there's that

648
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 3: boy cane, which I think is increasingly becoming the case

649
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 3: in college basketball unless you are watching like your team.

650
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: That's true.

651
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: I was gonna say this feels a little bit like

652
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: when you ask Philip Rivers how much he can relate

653
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: to a guy like Tanner Bordolini or Josh Downs who's seventeen,

654
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: eighteen years younger than him. We can have a college

655
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: roster with a guy who's old enough to, you know,

656
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: rent his own car, and then you got guys who

657
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Speaker 1: are not old enough to get off their parents' insurance. Boy,

658
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: that is quite the difference there.

659
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 3: See, this is what happens when you unplug for a

660
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: couple of days. You miss some of these.

661
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did miss some of these things. One thing

662
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: I did not unplugged from was the Colts. I did

663
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: keep the alerts on when it comes to the injury

664
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Speaker 1: report and anything that might have came across the wire.

665
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: I will say this Rake, as.

666
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Speaker 1: Much as we talked about the offense and Philip Rivers

667
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: and what it means from the come back, and I

668
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: thought he looked pretty good for seventy five pertunity of

669
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: that game.

670
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: Before the pick six, I thought he looked like a.

671
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: Fantastic and again, you're down by two scores, you're forcing

672
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: your present. Yeah, Phillip's always been kind of an open moor. Hey,

673
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 3: he goes he got the readoff an earlier check that

674
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 3: I made good on that dude for making.

675
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: A play exactly. But that isn't the full story of

676
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: how that game unfolded. The defense was absolutely off.

677
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 3: Right, Colon Philip Rivers played defensive tackle or middle lineback.

678
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: Exactly, and I think that part of it was probably

679
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: one of the more disappointing. And it's happened on a

680
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: near annual basis where this team folds in the big

681
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: moments for whatever reason. You can point to injuries, you

682
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: can point to offensive in execution if that's a word,

683
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: and you can point to the defense, I thought, just

684
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: falling flat on its face. And you're going up against

685
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville team that is surging. So as much as

686
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: I want to again keep harping on the old quarterback

687
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: and can't he do it?

688
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: Can he stay off all the time? Can't he get

689
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: some help?

690
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 3: Right?

691
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: I mean, could you imagine if.

692
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 3: He was not the problem? No?

693
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: No, if he gets off the couch rake and pushes,

694
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: this team gives him.

695
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: I thought, his best.

696
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: He deserves the best from the guys who are again

697
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: fifteen seventeen years his junior.

698
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 3: I thought there were three guys you could point to

699
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 3: on Monday night and go that guy played really well.

700
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 3: Philip Rivers is obviously one of them. Alec Pierce is

701
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 3: one of them. Blake Groupie would be the other guy.

702
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 3: And there's other individuals that made decent plays catches, etc.

703
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 3: Blocked well. And again, offensive line, you know, was the

704
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 3: island of misfit toys by the end of the game,

705
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 3: because you really had four backups in the game, and

706
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 3: I thought largely they did their job from a pass

707
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 3: protection standpoint, Running the football not so much. But again,

708
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 3: you're running as on a behind a second string offensive

709
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: line at this juncture. You know things like that are

710
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 3: going to happen, but no Philip Rivers has gone from

711
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 3: how could you ask this guy to do this too?

712
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 3: He was one of your best players on Monday Night Football.

713
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 3: And of all of the stats we could trot out

714
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 3: about the way the defense played on Monday Night, not

715
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 3: having the Niners punt seven of eleven on third down,

716
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 3: the most damning number is the fact that Rock Party

717
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 3: got hit one more time than you and I did,

718
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 3: and that lat two got home and forced to fumble,

719
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: and kind of indicative of what that game was even

720
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: that was recovered and picked up for a three yard

721
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 3: gain by one of the tight ends. But you got

722
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 3: home on the quarterback one time once. That's it.

723
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 1: And when we have that Chris ballor conversation, that has

724
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: to be a sore spot for not only him, because

725
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: we know how much he loves the trenches.

726
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 2: Yep, he loves the big dudes.

727
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: And they invested so much in that unit and for

728
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: them to not really have any statement moments this season,

729
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: any signature standout plays that I can think of that

730
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: really flipped correct the game or changed their trajectory of

731
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: their season. That's disheartening and I think that is a big,

732
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 1: big point that a lot of the fans into their credit.

733
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: I'll give them that respect of being frustrated, like, wait

734
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: a second, this isn't a defensive line that we've overlooked

735
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: or we're hoping to find the needle in the haystack

736
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: or you know, the diamond in the rough.

737
00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: These dudes were supposed to be diamonds from the start.

738
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 3: You have in your defensive end rotation two first round

739
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 3: picks and a second round pick.

740
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: And then the think of the money you put into

741
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: these guys into your defensive line, Think of the investments

742
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: j T Twoey Molowaugh, who's been out actually with an

743
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 1: oblique injury this week. He hasn't lived up to where

744
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: you drafted him.

745
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: Latu.

746
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: He's been okay this season, but he hasn't been a dude.

747
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: And when you could draft a guy the first def

748
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: as the player selected yep a couple of years ago,

749
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: he's got to be a dude for you. Quitdy Pat,

750
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: you picked up his fifth year option. He's probably walking

751
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: in free agency. I can't imagine we're trying to bring

752
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: him back. He's had a very quiet year, so I

753
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: just think.

754
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it is and I just want to jump

755
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 4: in and say, like, the two biggest things of this

756
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 4: nine year run here has been the lack of success

757
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 4: in finding a long term quarterback. And then what you

758
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 4: guys are talking about this past rush, and isn't that

759
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 4: what we say the great NFL teams have is they

760
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 4: have they have the great quarterback and they have edge

761
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 4: rushers who are relentless. And those are the two biggest

762
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 4: things that have just lacked. And there's other talent on

763
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 4: the roster, but you need those cornerstones.

764
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably the ass are the two toughest things to find.

765
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 3: Absolutely the two things because they're so tough to find

766
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: that you have to hit on in the draft. You

767
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 3: don't get those things usually via free agency. And again,

768
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 3: the best resting example out is Miles Garrett, who did

769
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: not want to be in Cleveland. But not to go

770
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: all Ted Dbiassi on you, everybody has a price, and

771
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 3: the Browns are paying him a ridiculous amount of money

772
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: to be far and away the best pass rush in

773
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 3: the league and likely set a new NFL record for

774
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 3: sacks in a season, and to do it for a

775
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: team that's probably gonna win three games. Again, you're not

776
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 3: going to find that guy in free agency. It's why

777
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 3: you have to hit on him in the draft, and

778
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 3: the Colts have not been able to do that.

779
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 2: And that's what that's what hurts. That's what hurts.

780
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: And then you look at the other things that have

781
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: not gone your way, and boy, there are a litany

782
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: of things where if we had to say, after the

783
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: Berlin win, when JT goes off, okay, what things do

784
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: you not want to happen? Every single one has happened, right, Yeah,

785
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: they have gotten I saw zero health.

786
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: I saw a stat where I think, going up to

787
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 3: last weekend's games, like the results the Colts needed for

788
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 3: assistance went and sixteen correct.

789
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it is remarkable how quickly things have changed

790
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: and pivoted, which again leads me to and I think

791
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: shout out to Stephen Holder for ESPN for kind of

792
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: getting at this. This past week is like, you know,

793
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: asking different players or asking the coaching staff, how do

794
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: you define this season?

795
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: How would you describe it? Explain it?

796
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: And hearing that perspective from certain players and the coaches,

797
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 1: it's interesting because it almost feels like you're watching two

798
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: halves of a different movie, right, the one where everything

799
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: goes right, and you're right off into the sunset and

800
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: you have the team that finally gives this city the

801
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: real hope to contend. And then you got the other

802
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: half where it's like, why am I sports fan?

803
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 3: This is painful?

804
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: I mean I feel for Colts fans because, boy, you

805
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: if you would have told me they were going to

806
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: miss the playoffs or to this extent, because they're not

807
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: out of it yet, technically, you would need twelve different

808
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 1: things to happen.

809
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 3: For you to get in, and all twelve those things happen.

810
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: I mean, it's right, It's tough.

811
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough. You know. Going into the season I

812
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 3: was probably on the high end of the wind total

813
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 3: when I thought this was a ten win team. Now,

814
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 3: obviously things have to go right for them to be

815
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: a ten win team given how things, but they were

816
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: far better the first two months of the season than

817
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 3: I ever thought that this group was going to be. Again,

818
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: it's why, and that question is a great question to

819
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 3: their perspective coaches and players. Again, the ultimate decision maker

820
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 3: is is carly Cale and Casey, And notably from a

821
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 3: football standpoint, carly And it is are you looking at

822
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 3: this through a one year lens. Are you looking at

823
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 3: this through a nine year lens? And for those of

824
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 3: you that are uninitiated, the reason we say a nine

825
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 3: year lens, this is wrapping up the ninth year that

826
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 3: Chris Ballard has been the general manager of the Indianapolis Colts.

827
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 3: If you look at this through a one year lens,

828
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 3: you go, I can explain why this went wrong and

829
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 3: why this went wrong and why that went wrong, and

830
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 3: let's keep this together. And again, keeping things together don't

831
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 3: always mean the same thing because given where you're at

832
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 3: from a salary cap standpoint, a roster construction standpoint, a

833
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 3: quarterback standpoint, and not having a number one pick the

834
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 3: next two years, you're kind of forced to keep things

835
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 3: together from a roster standpoint. So keeping things together mean

836
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 3: do you bring back general manager, do you bring back

837
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 3: head coach? Do you bring back one and not the other?

838
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: And again, that's what the conversation. We can kind of

839
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 3: get into that now, but that's really what the conversation

840
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 3: will be next week. If the Texans win on Saturday

841
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 3: and or the Colts lose on Sunday, yeah, then you

842
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 3: are fully into that mode.

843
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: Because right now asking these questions, you still have that

844
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: group of people there, it's like, oh man, we still

845
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: got a chance. I'm not thinking about next year or

846
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: how things might look or how to assess the season

847
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: when it's not over. But this kind of reminds me

848
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: of I want to say, last year where they had

849
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: to go to New York play the Giants, right, and

850
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: no one will really go there about how mathematically after

851
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: JT dropped the ball in Denver, it was like a

852
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: three percent chance of GETT into the playoffs or whatever.

853
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: So everyone kind of you know, hey, we don't want

854
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: to talk about that season still on the line. And

855
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 1: then you you lay an absolute egg against a team

856
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: that had lost ten straight coming into that game, and

857
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: the answer shifted and you get some more transparency of

858
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: why things aren't working or why things have been this stagnant.

859
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: And I do think personally I would look at this

860
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: more as a nine year review of Chris Ballard and

861
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: company and go from there. But we'll get into this perhaps,

862
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: I think throughout later in the show. We've got plenty

863
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: of time here for sure, But do you view them

864
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: as a package deal. It's one of the questions that

865
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: my boy Kevin Bowen here on the.

866
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 3: Fan asks, my guess I can hear his boye saying

867
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 3: joined at the hip, because that is the old school

868
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 3: Jimmer Grison joined at the hip.

869
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: And I do think that is a question that weighs

870
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: on this regime, or has to when you have that

871
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: conversation about the future and changes you want to make.

872
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: Because if you will from the GM, which I think

873
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: is well within the range of possibilities, well within the

874
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: rights of the team, I'm the frustration of the fan base.

875
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: I get all of that.

876
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: If you do that, then you now have to ask yourself,

877
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: do you want to just start over completely when a

878
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: new head coach, do they bring in somebody differently?

879
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: You know, is your defensive coordinator still.

880
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 3: Going to be there?

881
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: With Luanarumo we were raving about him earlier this year,

882
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: does that say the same? There's so many trickle down effects.

883
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: I think that can happen if you make that move.

884
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: And to your point, Rake, I'm just not necessarily sure

885
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: they'll go that route because they've invested so much into

886
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 1: this one already.

887
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 3: But I can tell you you really unless you want

888
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: to eat a lot of salary cap money. And again,

889
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 3: everything normally starts with all right, if you're gonna hit

890
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 3: the reset button. You're hitting the reset button to go

891
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 3: get a quarterback. You can't go get one the next

892
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 3: two years. And again, if Daniel Jones is healthy, I'm

893
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 3: not sure you have to given how well he played.

894
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 3: So everything starts at the quarterback position on offense, everything

895
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 3: starts at the pass russ position on defense. And because

896
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 3: of not having those first round picks, that is the

897
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 3: domino effect. Then that kind of affects all of the decisions.

898
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 3: From a personnel standpoint, I think you can make those

899
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 3: independently of a general manager and or a coach. But

900
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 3: from a personnel standpoint, I'm not saying bring guys back

901
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 3: in free agency. But again, knowing you don't have the

902
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 3: ability to go get a quarterback in the first round,

903
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 3: and I did do this exercise, I know we're kind

904
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 3: of up against the time wise, so I'll try to

905
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 3: be brief with this. I think twenty six of thirty

906
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: two NFL teams basically have a first round quarterback that

907
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 3: is their planned number one quarterback. Doesn't mean that guy's

908
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 3: playing due to injury, that they have built their franchise

909
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: around a first round pick. Twenty six of thirty two,

910
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 3: including the Colts, they've got two of them on the

911
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 3: team are first round draft picks. Knowing you can't change

912
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 3: the quarterback position for the next couple of year years,

913
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 3: that tells you that again, from a roster standpoint, you're

914
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 3: probably largely running it back. Now, does that mean you're

915
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 3: the same the general manager and the coach, JB. I

916
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 3: don't think that has to be the case. No, I

917
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 3: don't think that's necessarily. If this, then that that's a conversation.

918
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: We can definitely continue on the other side and revisit

919
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: a little bit throughout the show, and we'll hit a

920
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: break here, a short break here. Thank you all for

921
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 1: listening and tuning in the day after Christmas, because lord

922
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: knows it was hard getting up.

923
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 3: We're still working, JB. When you hear this beat, are

924
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 3: you trying to figure out the rhymes in your head?

925
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 3: Like Marshall Mathers, Is that exactly what you're doing.

926
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm like loading up to go out

927
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: there for battle or something. They got played this before,

928
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 1: like the picked up games against JAMV.

929
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: I remember when I found out that when clarence parents

930
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 3: had a really good marriage and he went to Crambrook

931
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 3: that is actually a legitimate private school in Detroit that

932
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 3: you can attend. That was not a fictitious name. That

933
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 3: is a real place somewhere not close to eight mile apparently.

934
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 3: Just remember, kids, there's no such thing as halfway Crux.

935
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 4: Greg knows his nineties hip hop and I'm gonna just

936
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 4: go through the rest of the show.

937
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 5: Greg, just.

938
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 3: Absolutely please thank you.

939
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: Kem a bit of an old soul there, so I

940
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: feel like he's he's from a different time.

941
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: I'm a bit of an old man, so hits well.

942
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 6: Well.

943
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: Speaking of old man, we have a forty four year

944
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: old quarterback starting for the team in our city, Philip Rivers,

945
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: and I did get a kick out of him saying

946
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: that he had to.

947
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 2: Cheer for the Chargers, which will be easy for him

948
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: to do.

949
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: And he kind of reminds me he gives you like

950
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: Ted Lasso vibes of just, you know, perpetual optimism no

951
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: matter what, because it is bleak right now for the cult.

952
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 3: I think there's a belief sign above his locker.

953
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: Oh boy, you know, I think it's like written on

954
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: his heart. You probably got a tattooed on his chest

955
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: or something like that. And knowing this guy, and yes,

956
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 1: and again he is someone who I think this group

957
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: really respects and there is a sense of, oh.

958
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: He can actually do this, We actually have a chance.

959
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: But you're on your knees hoping and praying that that

960
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 2: first domino falls in your favor.

961
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: And it's a tough matchup. This is a matchup that

962
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: can go either way, the Texans or the Chargers. And again,

963
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: for the Colts' purposes, the first two things that have

964
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: to happen for them to stay alive in the playoff

965
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: picture is to a have the Chargers the Texans on Saturday,

966
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: which I'll be watching along with anybody.

967
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 3: Else NFL Network for those of you that want there.

968
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 1: You go too long and then you have to win.

969
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: There is no scenario. I got this question over the

970
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: weekend rate. There is no scenario where the Colts can

971
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: only win one game and get in. They have to

972
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: win their final two.

973
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 3: The Colts have to win both, the Chargers have I'm

974
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 3: sorry the textant to lose both, which again Colts Texans

975
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 3: Week eighteen and the Texans going to the Chargers. They

976
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 3: are eleven and four. Yeah, and Aaron Emmett, who were

977
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: filling in for the unsportsman like crew before us, you know,

978
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 3: made a very valid point, the Chargers are like the

979
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 3: quietest eleven and four team ever, and much like the

980
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 3: Niners they went through there in restretch early in the season. Yeah,

981
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 3: compared to the Colts, who are obviously, you know, going

982
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 3: through that now. So that part of that part of

983
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 3: is not that far fetched in terms of the or

984
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 3: of the Texans losing both, given how the Colts have

985
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 3: been playing, it may seem more far fetched the Colts

986
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 3: win both against the Jaguars here and then again going

987
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 3: to play the Houston Texans, But there are other games

988
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 3: that have to follow the Colts way next week, and frankly,

989
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 3: I don't think we know what those games are until

990
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 3: you kind of see what the strength of victory tiebreaker

991
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 3: would be. Boy. And so here here is the reason

992
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 3: why there is not an E next to the Indianapolis

993
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 3: Colts name right now, and that is that if the

994
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 3: Colts win both and the Texans lose both, they would

995
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 3: finish identical in terms of conference record, head to head

996
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 3: divisional record, they would all be the same, and I

997
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 3: think their combination of wins would be identical in terms

998
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 3: of their divisional opponents. So now it goes to the

999
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 3: winning percentage of the teams that you beat. And this

1000
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 3: is where the Colts are helped by the fact they

1001
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 3: own wins against the Broncos and the Chargers. Those are

1002
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 3: good things for the Indianapolis Colts. I saw someplace where

1003
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 3: it comes down to the Vegas Kansas City game, which

1004
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 3: probably is the least meaningful game that'll be played next

1005
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 3: week because those two teams have a combined eight wins

1006
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 3: right now, but yet that possibly could have an impact

1007
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 3: yeah on the final playoff spot and the seventh seed

1008
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 3: in the AFC.

1009
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: So we wrote this down in the Athletic if you're

1010
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: looking for a Cliff Nodes version of what we just

1011
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: talked about and what you need to happen for the

1012
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: Colts when it comes to this strength of victory, which

1013
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: right now the Colts's strength of victory is three to

1014
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: eighty three, whereas Houston's is four to thirty three. And

1015
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: more or less, you need the teams that you have

1016
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: already beaten two in a sense, you need you need

1017
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: you you must have a break. Help me off if

1018
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: I'm messing this up, because I'm get confused already. You

1019
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 1: need to beat the teams or have the teams that

1020
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: you've already beat win continue to win, so your strength

1021
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 1: to your victory looks better. So for example, you beat

1022
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: or you were you were close to beating the Rams.

1023
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: You were close to beating the Rams, wingk for that

1024
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: didn't happen, So you need them to lose Monday Night Football.

1025
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: You need the Falcons to beat the Rams. You need

1026
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: the Broncos to beat the Chiefs. You know which that

1027
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: did not happen. You need the Dolphins to or what

1028
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: that might not happen. You need the Dolphins to be

1029
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. Like, these are things that are possible, but

1030
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: still I wouldn't say they're likely. I mean they're possible,

1031
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: but boy, you need a lot of things.

1032
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 3: To break your way to on You control what you

1033
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 3: can control. Yeah, watch the Chargers Texans game.

1034
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: You say, can you control that? Can you control that?

1035
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 3: Enough? Is a more simple scenario understandable. If the Chargers

1036
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 3: win that game, the Colts have a chance and gas.

1037
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 3: If the Colts beat the Jaguars, which were as historically

1038
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 3: bad as the Colts have been in Jacksonville. Frankly, Jacksonville

1039
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 3: has not been overly successful in this building. No, you

1040
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 3: give yourself an opportunity and then we can get out

1041
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 3: here and count fingers and toes next week and go

1042
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 3: all right, this is exactly there was a chance. And

1043
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 3: maybe it was that twenty fifteen season I referenced where

1044
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 3: the Colts had Linley and Freeman lean them to it.

1045
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 3: There was like a if a six game parlay went

1046
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 3: the right way, the Colts would have gotten a playoff spot.

1047
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 3: And like the first four of those things hit and

1048
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 3: finally one of those things. It was a similar scenario

1049
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 3: ten years ago as it is now. So there's that.

1050
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: I will say this. It was crazy to hear Philip

1051
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: and Caleb. You might have called this after the game

1052
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: when someone asked them, okay, you said you had less

1053
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: odds of making the playoffs than this one, or had

1054
00:50:58,680 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: similar odds.

1055
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 3: He had a cute up, didn't he?

1056
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: And he just went off about yeah. I think it

1057
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: was two thousand and eight. It might have been the year.

1058
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 3: You want you want me to want to explain it

1059
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 3: to you?

1060
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 2: Is this the year? Was this the Billy Volang year?

1061
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 3: Uh No, that was the year after so Billy freaking

1062
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 3: Volek won the last game ever played at the RCA Dome.

1063
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 3: That was in January of eight, after the seven season.

1064
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 3: That was the year the Patriots went undefeated of the

1065
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. The Colts went twelve and four, but the

1066
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 3: Colts were undefeated until the Patriots were here, and then

1067
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 3: the Colts got beat by the Chargers to close out

1068
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 3: that building oh eight. The Chargers were four and eight

1069
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 3: and then won their last four games. The Colts were

1070
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 3: three and four because Peyton Manning was hurt, missed all

1071
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 3: of training camp, did not miss a game, but I

1072
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 3: vividly remember a Monday night football game where the Titans

1073
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 3: I think were unbeaten beat the Colts. Many night football

1074
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 3: was like, okay, there there's the passing of the torch moment. Okay,

1075
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 3: this has been It has been a great five or

1076
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 3: six year und for the They're gonna flip other than Peyton,

1077
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 3: They're gonna flip the roster. We're all moving on. Coltston

1078
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 3: won nine consecutive games and then got to twelve and four,

1079
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 3: but they had lost the division. So as the five seed,

1080
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 3: they went to the San Diego Chargers at eight and

1081
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 3: eight and the Chargers beat them. That was the game

1082
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 3: where Darren Sproles went off, and that was the game.

1083
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 3: Mike Cyprus had this amazing game as a punter, so

1084
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 3: it was the special teams game that beat the Indianapolis Colts.

1085
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 2: Boy, is that one that still hurts Uncle? Moe shots Uncle.

1086
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 4: He may get mad at me for revealing this on

1087
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 4: these airwaves, but I think during that game he threw

1088
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 4: his bowl of popcorn and it broke.

1089
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 5: He was that upset.

1090
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 4: So I mean, we'll see if he gets upset at

1091
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 4: me revealing that, but yeah, no, he was.

1092
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 2: He was upset.

1093
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 5: And I think, actually, Greg, I don't know if it's

1094
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 5: the next year.

1095
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 4: The year after the Chargers had like the number one

1096
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 4: offense and number one defense in the league, but their

1097
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 4: special teams was so bad that I think they missed

1098
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 4: the playoffs the year after that in ten and so like,

1099
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 4: Philip Rivers been a part of some weird teams, and

1100
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 4: I think he's notorious for his charger career having the

1101
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 4: ball with like fifteen seconds remaining at his own twenty

1102
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 4: yard line with no timeouts, having the length of the field,

1103
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 4: kind of like that Seattle situation.

1104
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 5: Like that is Philip Rivers to me for his entire career.

1105
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: Dad Giming, that's a good point you just made, and

1106
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: it's certainly something to think about and for those listening,

1107
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: shout out Mo Zoover, the father of Caleb zoo I

1108
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: call him Uncle Mo because he ran the five k

1109
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: with us and was moving and grooving. I must say,

1110
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: your dad actually didn't reach out to me too, Caleb

1111
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: asking him like, hey, you mentioned something on the show

1112
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: about what your dad told you for advice looking for

1113
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 1: stuff for a high school team, and I was like, well,

1114
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: my dad was never a high school coach, but he

1115
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: definitely told.

1116
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 2: Me Ray to not be a sorry human being.

1117
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 3: So there's that.

1118
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 2: A couple of things stuck. You got that going for you,

1119
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 2: A couple of things stuck.

1120
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: I'll say this so and shout out to our text line.

1121
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: Feel free to weigh in if you all, if you

1122
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: want to, you know, give us your reaction.

1123
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 3: I don't get the text line. By the way, they're James, yes,

1124
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 3: James to me.

1125
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 2: I got the monopolizy substitute teacher.

1126
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 3: You have to like tweet me or like, if you

1127
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 3: have my own personal cell phone, text me, then you

1128
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 3: text then.

1129
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: So this interesting concept or question from Alex here on

1130
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: the text line, he said, Hello, guys, I get the

1131
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: entire thing of not having to firsts for the next

1132
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 1: two years, but are we really going to commit thirty

1133
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: to fifty million dollars to Daniel Jones when he couldn't

1134
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: win us a game that were on his shoulders, the

1135
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 1: KC game, the Steelers, the Texans. This is from alex

1136
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: So this is where I think my off season calculations

1137
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: have changed a lot because I went into it before

1138
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: the fractured fibula and obviously the Achilles tear. I was thinking,

1139
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: is the franchise tag something you would use on Daniel

1140
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: Jones just to try to negotiate with them? Do you

1141
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: give them the franchise tag? Because you're like, you know what,

1142
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 1: you had one.

1143
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 3: Good year, but that was like one year and forty

1144
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 3: million exactly, right, And again I don't think you have

1145
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 3: to pay that rate exactly.

1146
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 2: But now the injuries happened, right, I definitely don't.

1147
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 3: I do think there is a bargain. There's kind of

1148
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 3: a bargain bin feeling to this now. And my guess

1149
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 3: would be is that you you are offering Daniel Jones

1150
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 3: a two year contract, and year number two is worth

1151
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 3: more than year number one, and your number two has

1152
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 3: an option to it, and maybe even going in both

1153
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 3: directions as an option to it. Okay, because I would

1154
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 3: imagine that you've offered him a little bit more than

1155
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 3: you offered him this year, which was one year fourteen

1156
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 3: million yep to the quarterback this year. My estimation would

1157
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 3: be is that it's it's a little bit more than

1158
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 3: that for the first year, a little bit more than

1159
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 3: that for the second year. Almost as hey, the first

1160
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 3: year is an insurance policy. We're going to give you

1161
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 3: a similar rate a little bit more to once you

1162
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 3: made this year to allow you to rehab, get stronger,

1163
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 3: et cetera. And then we'll have an option for year

1164
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 3: number two. And then at that point in time, either

1165
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 3: a the Colts know they can go the first round

1166
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 3: pick for a quarterback option, or you got your guy

1167
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 3: signed to kind of his last long term deal and

1168
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 3: that's the way you go. But to me JB of

1169
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 3: all the Colts free agents, and if you want to

1170
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 3: get that list ready, feel free. There are two guys

1171
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 3: that I feel differently about than anybody else, again through circumstance,

1172
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 3: what we saw of him on the field, and frankly,

1173
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 3: how like everybody in the locker room feels good about

1174
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones. He is very well liked, he is very

1175
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 3: much respected. In other words, your quarterback feels like the

1176
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:42,280
Speaker 3: leader of the locker room and that's a good thing. Okay,

1177
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 3: so he's one, But to me, the biggest priority in

1178
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 3: free agency that you have is Alec Pierce. And let's

1179
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 3: do some real talk here, JB. All right, going into

1180
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 3: the season, the overwhelming opinion for those of us that

1181
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 3: and frankly, you have better connections on this than I do,

1182
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 3: because that's your job cultivating as a reporter those connections.

1183
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 3: So you probably know the conversation direction this is heading

1184
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 3: that it was thought Alec has gotten to the point

1185
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 3: where he's so good the cults are going to bring

1186
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 3: him back. In other words, the Colts and at the

1187
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 3: time had ad Mitchell. Yep, And you draft Ady Mitchell

1188
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 3: with the idea of he is your insurance policy for

1189
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 3: Michael Pittman, he's your insurance policy for Alec Pierce. He's

1190
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 3: your insurance policy for Josh Downs. Pierce has gotten so

1191
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 3: good that now he is the guy that you want

1192
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 3: to invest as your number one receiver going forward. And

1193
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 3: you kind of end the debate discussion about pitt being

1194
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 3: a number one. No, Pierce is your number one pitcher,

1195
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 3: number two. Downs is your slot guy. You go, I

1196
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 3: like that combination, and so to me, and I want

1197
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 3: to say, the Colts about fifty million in cap space

1198
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 3: to work with. And this is the one bit of

1199
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 3: upside about not having a number one draft pick. You

1200
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 3: get a little more money to work with in the

1201
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 3: free agency, is true, But to me, it is I'm

1202
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 3: figuring out exactly what makes Daniel Jones feel good about

1203
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 3: a one er two year deal to come back, and

1204
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 3: then trying to figure out what the market bears out

1205
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 3: for Alec Pierce and offering him a three or four

1206
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 3: year deal and everything else in terms of any other

1207
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 3: free agents is if I can get you at my price, great,

1208
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 3: and if not, thank you for what you've done for

1209
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 3: this team. We're going to go in a different direction.

1210
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 3: That's simple.

1211
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: So, Ray, this is the point that I was alluding to,

1212
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: and I think you kind of hit it there as well.

1213
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: Going into perhaps the second month of the season, I

1214
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: was thinking, boy, the franchise tag might be something you

1215
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: want to use for Daniel Jones because at that time,

1216
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: correct after the Steelers game and even after the Atlanta game,

1217
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: I was like, there's been some slippage, Yes, do you

1218
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: want a franchise tag him?

1219
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 2: Because he's good enough to.

1220
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 3: Be to Alex's text, I'm willing to grade the Chiefs

1221
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 3: and the Texas performance on a curve because he was

1222
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 3: playing hurt.

1223
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 2: That's what I was going to get to.

1224
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 3: And look at that Chiefs game when he has that

1225
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 3: scramble for a first down and he's running with my

1226
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 3: level of speed getting a or a Philip Rivers scramble

1227
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 3: because he was so slow, and you're like, uh oh,

1228
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 3: and so question marks with the Steelers game fair? Any

1229
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 3: question marks? But the Falcons game fair? After that, he

1230
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 3: was clearly playing as a compromise quarterback, please exactly.

1231
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: So when you look at how his place sort of shifted,

1232
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: that shifted my mindset of like, okay, maybe you franchise

1233
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: tag him. Don't want to commit the the Sam Darnold

1234
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield deal, which would have been three years, one

1235
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: hundred million.

1236
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 3: Dollars, right, And just to keep everybody in the loop here,

1237
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 3: franchise tag is a one year contract and basically you

1238
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 3: are paid the average of the top five yearly salaries

1239
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 3: at your position. Most understand that, but for those that don't,

1240
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 3: that's the price range we're talking about here from a

1241
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 3: franchise tag standpoint, which my guess would be JB and

1242
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 3: you're typing in furiously look at it up now, somewhere

1243
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 3: in the forty million dollar range for one year, I

1244
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 3: think as well, Yeah.

1245
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: It was forty six million. I believe for the quarterback franchise.

1246
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 3: You ain't doing that and it's fully guaranteed one year, right,

1247
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 3: you ain't doing that.

1248
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:17,919
Speaker 1: So that to me, and before again the Slippers in play,

1249
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: before the fracture fibe LA, I was like, man, I

1250
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: get us a lot of money for one year, but

1251
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: is it better to be kind of.

1252
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 3: I did the first place. They're really not doing.

1253
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 2: That exactly, But now I'm gonna get that franchise tag, like, boy,

1254
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 2: is that something you would use on Alec Pierce? And

1255
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 2: I'm not saying this.

1256
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 3: Which is probably somewhere in the thirtiesh million dollars.

1257
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: Going to be twenty eight million.

1258
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: So if that is the case, I could see them

1259
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: sort of approaching this rake similar to how they did

1260
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: with Michael Pittman Junr.

1261
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 3: Where it was franchise place long term exactly.

1262
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: But we're just not gonna let you even have the

1263
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: opportunity to have someone else come or to you and

1264
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: gets you out of there, because we all know if

1265
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: Alex Pierce were to hit the open market with no

1266
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: franchise tagoo, Yeah, he might price himself out of your

1267
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: entire market. And I think that is an interesting conversation

1268
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: to have, just because Aleck has changed the narrative on

1269
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: himself so much.

1270
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 3: I mean, you can vacidate what I was kind of

1271
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 3: saying earlier. The original plan was going to be, Hey,

1272
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 3: it was, it was. It was. There's a lot of

1273
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 3: apollion era of trace to how this team operates. And

1274
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 3: that's not a bad thing, with the idea of, hey,

1275
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 3: we're gonna occasionally draft guys, with the idea of you

1276
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 3: kind of got a year or two to develop, but

1277
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 3: you're going to replacing this guy because there's only so

1278
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 3: much free agency money we can throw around because of

1279
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 3: the salary cap. And that was the plan for ad Mitchell,

1280
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 3: and then the plan changed.

1281
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: The plan changed drastically. All the plans have changed for

1282
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: the Colts. It feels like so.

1283
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 3: It changed nine times over since that plan was made

1284
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 3: back in September or October.

1285
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like everything that I've written or said

1286
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: can be used against me.

1287
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 2: At this point.

1288
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 3: The past is no longer prolog everything different universe.

1289
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 2: I swear, Caleb.

1290
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: Every day I wake up to somebody like screenshoting something

1291
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: or dmem me like, well you said this two months ago, Like, well,

1292
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: things have kind of changed a little bit since then.

1293
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 2: Brother, I'm sorry.

1294
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 5: You've been in a ton of Twitter wars recently. I'm

1295
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 5: been following. I've been following.

1296
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 2: I'm trying to become a better person, you know why.

1297
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: Let's say a morning check down caleob All right, so

1298
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,959
Speaker 1: we've hit a lot of hypotheticals. What do the Colts

1299
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: do if this happens, if that happens. One thing that

1300
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: has happened, at least for the injury report update is

1301
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: a limited participation. Granted, it wasn't real practice yesterday, it

1302
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: wasn't any practice yesterday, but given the estimated injury report,

1303
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: we had limited participation for a Sauce Gardener and that

1304
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: is significant because he has not played in a few weeks.

1305
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: And if there is ever a time you could use

1306
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: a number one cornerback.

1307
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 2: It is against this surging Jaguars team.

1308
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 3: If Sunday's game means something, and if he is cleared

1309
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 3: those oversecting lines, than to tell you play him. If

1310
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 3: Sunday's game means nothing, then sauce needs to be sat

1311
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 3: for the remainder of the season. It is that simple. Also,

1312
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 3: Bernard Ryman was a full participant at doing nothing yesterday,

1313
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 3: just like I was a full participant in overeating for Christmas.

1314
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 3: Bernard was a full participant in practice even though practice

1315
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 3: didn't actually take place. Got it good?

1316
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: There you go, And so we'll be out there today,

1317
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: and actually I do think today's practice is very significant

1318
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: for that point, I'll be making sure two accessy with

1319
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: my own two eyes, who is practicing, what are they doing,

1320
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: what do they look like? And then we'll take it

1321
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: from there and Sham will tell us everything you know

1322
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: after practice anyway, because he always does on Fridays.

1323
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 3: And by the way, shout out to Jalen Travis. I

1324
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 3: think he has played well the last couple of weeks.

1325
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 3: And again we talked about there's there's X amount of

1326
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 3: money available in free agency and you draft to fill

1327
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 3: a need a year or two on the line. I

1328
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 3: would imagine Jalen Travis as you're starting right tackle next year.

1329
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:04,439
Speaker 3: And what Braden Smith's story has been amazing to come

1330
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 3: back and he's had eight really good years for this franchise.

1331
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 3: But likely Jamen Travis, as you're starting right tackle next year,

1332
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 3: so you've seen some of that work in progress for

1333
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 3: next already start to kick in.

1334
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: Exactly, so we'll pivot to a more NFL action. Yesterday, Yes, Caleb,

1335
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: I lied to you. I said I wasn't going to

1336
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: watch any of those bad football games.

1337
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 5: But boy, disgust me, Joe.

1338
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 1: I am a degenerate, so I can't help it. I

1339
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: had to tune in to see what would happen, just

1340
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: because it's the NFL. Man, They've they've hijacked Christmas, and

1341
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: I am you know.

1342
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 3: I had to pull up my laptop for my father

1343
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 3: in law because I just generically put on ESPN, knowing

1344
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 3: I'd hit five straight NBA games if I did. And

1345
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 3: that was kind of the background noise. What about the

1346
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 3: football game? Hang on, Buddyflix, what's Netflix account, here's your laptop, enjoy,

1347
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 3: here's a beverage, you enjoy the game. There you go

1348
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 3: after about three quarters like this is garbage. And he

1349
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 3: walked away. I know.

1350
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 1: I know the slate this year and theory was supposed

1351
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: to be very good, but it was not. The Cowboys

1352
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: knock off the Commanders started to twenty three. The Vikings

1353
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: is down the Lions, a surprising win for that because.

1354
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 3: The importance have no quarterbacks. The importance of that game

1355
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 3: is that the Lions have now been officially eliminated from

1356
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 3: playoff consideration. And in that game there were six turnovers,

1357
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 3: five sacks. The Vikings had credit for three yards passing

1358
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 3: once you take the sack yard a jut of the

1359
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 3: passing total, and the Viking still won that game twenty

1360
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 3: three to ten.

1361
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: That lets you know that things got pretty bleak for

1362
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: the Lions. And honestly, it speaks to what their coach said,

1363
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell a couple years ago, like this might have

1364
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 1: been our only shot. Yeah, and it looks like it

1365
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: was at this point. And then they had the nightcap

1366
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: with the Broncos and the Chiefs. Again, that matchup, way

1367
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: back when they made the schedule seemed like it would

1368
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: be great. You'd be looking at two teams right duking

1369
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: it out for the number one seed in their division.

1370
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 3: I literally don't know how to pronounce the quarterbacks. Is

1371
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 3: it ola dokin? Is it a lot of kin?

1372
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 5: I still do know where he went to school, Not.

1373
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, not Gardner Minshew, former coles legend. Sure, And

1374
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 3: so the Broncos keep winning. Obviously didn't win on Sunday

1375
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 3: or month Sunday. The Jaguars got him it. They're only

1376
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 3: lost since September. A man, the Broncos lead the league

1377
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 3: and ugly wins, don't they Yes, they think, oh Nicks

1378
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 3: had one hundred and eighty two yards passing and again

1379
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,439
Speaker 3: you won the game. They're right now the number one seed.

1380
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 3: So I'm not trying to you know, cast Stones, you know,

1381
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 3: being a guy that works with the team that's probably

1382
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,439
Speaker 3: not going to be a playoff team. But those things

1383
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 3: tend to average out, if not this year, they average

1384
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 3: out in future years when you win a lot of

1385
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 3: ugly games, close games, et cetera. As we saw from

1386
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 3: the Chiefs here in twenty twenty five.

1387
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 1: That is true, and they're taking a look on the

1388
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: NBA side of things. The Pacers actually be back in

1389
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 1: action tonight at Gambers Foothouse against the Boston Celtics. They

1390
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 1: have lost a number of games in a row at

1391
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: this point. I believe Rick Carlisle is still stuck on

1392
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: win nine nine nine, so he needs one more for

1393
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: a thousand. Perhaps they'll get that done tonight against Boston.

1394
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: Were they on Boston then they just play the Celtics. Yes,

1395
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 1: they were up big on Boston, blew it in Boston.

1396
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 1: And that's simply what has happened this year for the Pacers.

1397
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: They have had some rough rough stretches here, but one

1398
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: positive I would say for what we saw recently before

1399
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: this Milwaukee Bucks game, I believe we saw the first

1400
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 1: on court workout publicly for Tyrese Halliburton and his achilles recovery.

1401
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:26,919
Speaker 2: So it was just good to see him back out there.

1402
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 2: I think I put out something on social media like

1403
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 2: the World's Healing, and it was just good to see

1404
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 2: that dude out there playing in some capacity because we

1405
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 2: know Tyrese is really hurting right now because he wants

1406
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 2: to be out there so bad with his team.

1407
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 3: Do you think we unified the Mega powers? Do you

1408
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 3: think Daniel Jones and Tyrese Halliburton start working out together simultaneously?

1409
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 2: They did have the.

1410
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 3: L Cogan coming together.

1411
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,919
Speaker 2: They had the same surgeon, so I past him.

1412
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: I will say, though, boy, I need a knock on

1413
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: some wood here and no no more Achilles tears this

1414
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: calendar year, please, Or how about ever in this in

1415
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: the city out the NBA coverage, Nicks knocked off the

1416
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: Cavaliers in the first game. Yesterday, the Spurs knocked off

1417
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 1: the Thunder. The Spurs have.

1418
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 2: Had the Dunbeer's number as of late. They're looking really good.

1419
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 2: The Warriors beat the Mavericks. The Rockets blow out the Lakers.

1420
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 2: The Lakers, as you pointed out earlier, Rake only team

1421
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 2: yesterday's not score one hundred points in an NBA game,

1422
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 2: which seems impossible these days. And in the nightcap and

1423
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 2: over time, the Nuggets take care of the timber Wolves

1424
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 2: one eight. Nicole Yolkis is one of the greatest stat

1425
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 2: lines you will ever see. Fifty six, sixteen and fifteen.

1426
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 2: Ho home for that guy.

1427
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 3: The other point from yesterday, I thought this was a gag,

1428
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 3: but maybe it wasn't. Did Shack fall through that board

1429
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 3: on purpose?

1430
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 2: Yes, he had to. There was a cushion back there.

1431
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 5: There's no way, there's no more.

1432
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 3: Were they getting Were they getting a new board for

1433
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 3: that show? Was that like Turner's way of gigging ESPN

1434
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:55,879
Speaker 3: for more money? Maybe workout?

1435
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 5: I could see that.

1436
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 3: They they roll with that board the entire day like

1437
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 3: I saw that a half but early in the day

1438
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 3: and came back like wlam and they haven't fixed it yet.

1439
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 3: Clearly I was wrong. It's crazy.

1440
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 5: How did they pull that off too? They really made

1441
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 5: it seem like if it's.

1442
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 3: Fake, I mean, the fact that they sold that all

1443
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 3: day is what is why I'm asking that question. It's

1444
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 3: a good question, boy.

1445
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: I do enjoy having them back. I was confused at

1446
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: first about how that would all break down or how

1447
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: that would all play out, but it is good to

1448
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 1: have those guys back in the saddle, as they should be.

1449
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 1: One of the best I think sports shows for all

1450
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: reasons that are not sports, because none of them are.

1451
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: We're talking about outside of Ernie and maybe Kenny, the

1452
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 1: rest of them, Shacking Chuck. I don't know if they

1453
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,919
Speaker 1: know too much about the current state of NBA basketball,

1454
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 1: but they're entertaining.

1455
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,560
Speaker 3: I even listened to some Shacked Diesel while I was

1456
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 3: sitting outside last night as a nod to Shack taking

1457
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,719
Speaker 3: one for the team and projecting himself through a video

1458
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 3: board yesterday. I'm outstanding some of its better work.

1459
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 1: By the way, you gotta love it. Gotta love it,

1460
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: so we'll hit a break here. We'll check back in

1461
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 1: with you on the other side of it. Thank you

1462
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 1: all sticking with us. To day after Christmas and if

1463
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,719
Speaker 1: you still got presents to open, make sure you're enjoying

1464
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 1: that and leaving cookies out there for saying as well.

1465
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,719
Speaker 3: All right, young and this is who.

1466
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 2: They has to be Shack Sequille O'Neill, and.

1467
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 3: Who was the group that he is with? Who is

1468
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 3: his favorite?

1469
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 2: No idea about that.

1470
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 3: You gotta be got to be careful how you say this. Okay,

1471
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 3: foo schnickings. All right, snickings it spelled f u foo snickings. Yes,

1472
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 3: so well look cayleb, look that guy. Let's be swearing

1473
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 3: it and you can bring that back up a little bit.

1474
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 3: There you go, we can talk over this. Shack goes

1475
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,719
Speaker 3: out and performs again. This will aige everybody get involved

1476
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 3: on the Arcdio Hall show. Oh boy, yes it was

1477
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 3: a rookie.

1478
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 5: You said you were listening to this last night, Greg.

1479
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 3: I was listening.

1480
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 4: I was.

1481
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 3: I was listening to this to I was listening to

1482
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 3: my my Actually my favorite Shack track is his own

1483
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 3: song where he's not with fooshnickings. Is I'm outstanding? Absolutely? Yeah? Yeah?

1484
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 3: You know you know you know what about that time

1485
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 3: Shaq was filming Blue Chips here in Frankfort Indiana. Are

1486
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 3: you aware of this, James?

1487
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 2: I was aware that this was film in Indiana.

1488
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 1: I feel like every basketball movie that I've probably watched

1489
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: at this point probably good.

1490
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 2: You give me a guess, I'm gonna say Indiana.

1491
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 3: So Western University was actually u C l A and

1492
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 3: that and that makes sense. The only parts of the

1493
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 3: movie other than stuff that was filmed in and around

1494
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 3: French Lick involving Larry Bird or Ricky Row aka Matt Nover.

1495
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 3: You basketball son now plays at Carmel but the the

1496
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 3: Dolphin Dome's Case Arena at Frankfort High School? Have you

1497
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 3: been there to cover a game or as part of

1498
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 3: your basketball journey? Have you been to a game at

1499
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 3: Case Arena? Is this the one with the hot Dogs

1500
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 3: or not Frankfort hot Dogs? Yes, that's Case.

1501
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 1: Actually I did go there last year because I believe

1502
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 1: it was Warsaw Girls versus hs HSC.

1503
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 3: Yes, Semi State, correct, and that was a great game. Now,

1504
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 3: but when you walked in and by the Warsaw Girls

1505
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 3: were fantastic Monday in the Hall of Fame Classic and

1506
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 3: running clocked both of their opponents, which doesn't happen at

1507
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 3: an event like that. But they have now done that

1508
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 3: to seven of their last They are crushing people even

1509
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 3: that you have one loss on the season. But when

1510
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 3: you walk into case at Frankfort, they have a wonderful

1511
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame display as to all the greats that

1512
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 3: have played in that program. The history has taken place

1513
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:26,839
Speaker 3: there and there's a really cool display involving the Western

1514
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 3: University Dolphins. And two years ago they had a thirtieth

1515
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 3: anniversary night of the filming where they put the dolphin down,

1516
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,799
Speaker 3: They put the decals on the floor to replicate Western

1517
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 3: University and Frankfort wore Western gear for one night. That's cool,

1518
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 3: and they invited people back. Shack could not make it.

1519
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 3: But what did he do? He bought brand new shoes

1520
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 3: for I think both teams. Wow. Basically to have new

1521
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:58,679
Speaker 3: kicks for playing in that game.

1522
01:12:58,800 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty cool.

1523
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 1: So other reason, like Shack, I know, we'll get back

1524
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 1: to the football conversation whether it's the Colts or IU,

1525
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: but I want to actually stay with high school seem

1526
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 1: for a second, because now you got me down a

1527
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 1: rabbit hole.

1528
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 3: Raak yep. I was to day after Christmas. Today is

1529
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 3: rabbit hole.

1530
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 1: There you go. So we were over at Southport we

1531
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 1: being me, JAMV and a couple other guys who get

1532
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:16,719
Speaker 1: together and play basket.

1533
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 3: How often does John Yale short when he shoots oh boy?

1534
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 1: Every time and again? For someone who is relatively new

1535
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: to the JMV troll world. When I first started playing

1536
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: with him, I thought it was legitimately short. When he

1537
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 1: short it cash is going in. So it's like it's

1538
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 1: like a little bit of an annoyance because he knows.

1539
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:36,640
Speaker 3: That it's not and it's going to go in and

1540
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 3: saying jamb sucks.

1541
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 4: There you go.

1542
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,640
Speaker 1: But as we were sitting there in between games, and

1543
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 1: I think I might have been sitting on the sideline

1544
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 1: because a couple of those Jamb shorts were going in,

1545
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 1: and I was, you know, losing who is on your

1546
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 1: short list and you've done it for a long time,

1547
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 1: short list of the best high school basketball player you've

1548
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: seen a live in person with your own eyes.

1549
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 3: Greg Odin, I mean, he was so full, he was

1550
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 3: so different and so and you always refer things kind

1551
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 3: of back to him, like last year, Stink Robinson, now

1552
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 3: the certing point yard at Butler, became the all time

1553
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 3: leading scorer at Lawrence North. And you would say a

1554
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 3: phrase like listen, if you've scored more than Greg Odin

1555
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 3: and Mike Conley Junior, who is still getting an NBA paycheck,

1556
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 3: and for what it's worth when he uses this as

1557
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 3: a metric, has made the most money of any NBA

1558
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 3: player from the state of Indiana. The answer that tribute

1559
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 3: question is Mike Conley Jr. Has made the most money

1560
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 3: as an NBA player from the state of Indiana. And

1561
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 3: then even this week, so on Tuesday at the Hall

1562
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 3: of Fame, young man named Brandon Hunter who's a point

1563
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 3: guard for Silver Creek. Brandon came into the game. They

1564
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 3: only played seven games.

1565
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 6: He had.

1566
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 3: Let's see here, fifty eight assists on the year. That

1567
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 3: translates to nine point six or something along those lines

1568
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:06,759
Speaker 3: over like his first six games. And so I email

1569
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 3: my buddy who runs the Hickory Husker website because you

1570
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 3: know it's Indiana, Lee Evitt, and I go, all right,

1571
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:15,680
Speaker 3: what's the record for assists in a year? Because this

1572
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 3: team could play thirty three games? And he just if

1573
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,560
Speaker 3: I can do the math, thirty three times nine is

1574
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 3: a lot. And the answer to that question is Mike

1575
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 3: Conley Junior has the state record for assists. Guess who

1576
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 3: he was throwing the ball to on most of those

1577
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 3: assists Greg Odin, so Mike had two hundred and ninety

1578
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 3: assists in a single season at Lawrence North boy Llen

1579
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 3: is as Conley and Odin are freshmen. If Greg Odin

1580
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 3: makes more free throws as a freshman, they beat an

1581
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 3: unbeaten Pike team in the regional, a Pike team that'll

1582
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 3: go on to not lose a game the entire season.

1583
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 3: But that LN team probably would have won four consecutive

1584
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 3: championships if Greg was a better fore throw shooter as

1585
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:04,799
Speaker 3: a freshman. So the answer to your question doesn't take long. Okay,

1586
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 3: I was. I'm four years younger than Damon Bailey. I

1587
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 3: was at the state finals he one in ninety. There

1588
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 3: has not been a storyline that was capped off in

1589
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,640
Speaker 3: the same fashion that Damon Bailey was. Yeah, I'm not

1590
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 3: sure there has been a phenomenon because now you explode

1591
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 3: social media to the mix, like Romeo Langford was who

1592
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 3: did win a state championship as a sophomore when ron

1593
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 3: Dale Moore was his teammate at New Wall. But not

1594
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 3: to mention Shawn East too, I think it's like college

1595
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 3: basketball for thirty seven years at this point, but the

1596
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:42,560
Speaker 3: single best player in my time of doing this is

1597
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 3: Greg Odin.

1598
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 1: There you go, all right, well, I appreciate that answer

1599
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 1: because we were debating it. We were going into the

1600
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 1: girls side for a little bit as well, and I

1601
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:53,640
Speaker 1: was like, man, like, there are some names. And when

1602
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 1: I had a chance to visit the Indiana Basketball Hall

1603
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 1: of Fame, which I've been to a few times, at

1604
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 1: this point you started to read little tabs all the

1605
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,640
Speaker 1: people who have come before. Yeah, and you realize the

1606
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 1: resumes are just incredible, right, Like this isn't just a

1607
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 1: Larry Bird thing, Like, no, these people could really really

1608
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: play basketball, and a lot of them have resumes that

1609
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 1: are just impeccable. I mean Stephanie White, right, See's someone

1610
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 1: who's also also a legend as well.

1611
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 3: So state record and scoring as a senior at Seegar

1612
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 3: High School.

1613
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, boy, I can only imagine how the Damon Bailey

1614
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 2: crowds looked.

1615
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 3: I was one of the forty thousand.

1616
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 2: High school that's crazy.

1617
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 1: I thought we had a great turnof for the four

1618
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 1: A game this past year for boys and that was

1619
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 1: like what sixteen seventeen.

1620
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 3: Thou growing up in the area in which not the

1621
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,759
Speaker 3: not just the era, but the area where Damon played.

1622
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 3: What you would do is you would check your schedule

1623
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 3: because you were going to all twenty year team's games,

1624
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 3: whether you're eighteen and two or two or eighteen, and

1625
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 3: then you would go, okay, what are the dates that

1626
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 3: we're not playing that Bedford North Lawrence is? Okay? Now

1627
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 3: where do I think I can get tickets to go

1628
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 3: watch him play? You can't just go on your phone, right,

1629
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 3: So it wasn't like that back at eighty nine, Son,

1630
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:01,679
Speaker 3: What wasn't the way that worked. You had those little

1631
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 3: pocket schedules from your bank, or you had Who's your

1632
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 3: Basketball magazine when it came out back in November, and

1633
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 3: that was your bible and you carried that around with you.

1634
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 3: So you had the answers this question, you know, since

1635
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 3: the Internet Al Gore had invented it by that point

1636
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 3: in time, but it wasn't exactly available, you know, for

1637
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 3: home distribution, until about five or six years later. So

1638
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 3: you would go, Okay, this is where Banel is playing.

1639
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 3: Where don't think I can get tickets? And usually you couldn't.

1640
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 3: So the option that I had to see him during

1641
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:32,879
Speaker 3: the regular season his senior year, which was also Eric Mantras,

1642
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 3: the Senior Year, God rest his soul. Bedford North, Lawrence,

1643
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 3: Lawrence North, Pike and Newcastle were the teams that played

1644
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame Classic. But this was right

1645
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 3: before the Hall of Fame that you were just in

1646
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 3: the other day was finished in Newcast, which was ninety

1647
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 3: or ninety one is when that building was completed. So

1648
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 3: back then the Hall of Fame Classic actually moved around

1649
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 3: well and Damon Senior Year. What better place to have

1650
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 3: it than Assembly Hall. And so that's where I had

1651
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 3: a chance to watch bet for North, Lawrence and Lawrence

1652
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 3: North playing the championship game Damon Bailey versus Eric Montross.

1653
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 3: You know who the best player on the floor was

1654
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:15,719
Speaker 3: dude named Eddie Cassian who played the pert Rican national

1655
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 3: team that played at Lawrence North ended up playing at

1656
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 3: uab Boy that night. He was the best player.

1657
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 1: This is why Rake is on the panel or the

1658
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 1: board of the Hall of Fame here in Indiana.

1659
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 3: And you did heal my name tag on as a

1660
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 3: board member of the Hall of the first I have

1661
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 3: done broadcast with credentials before. I've never done a broadcast

1662
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 3: with a name tag on before. But since I'm on

1663
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 3: the board. Yes, I felt, you know, if you had

1664
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 3: a Hall of Fame question, I would be able to

1665
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 3: answer it for you. Well, at least while I was not,

1666
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 3: you know, actually doing a broadcast on Tuesday.

1667
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 5: James us notn Hoosiers are getting a crash course right now.

1668
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:49,759
Speaker 2: Hey, this is learning.

1669
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm still like I feel like people keep telling me like, oh,

1670
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 1: you're an honorary Hoosier at this point.

1671
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 2: There's always more you can learn. You are, There's always

1672
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 2: more you can learn.

1673
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 3: Google Gobble. You are one of us at this point.

1674
01:19:58,400 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 1: So we'll take a break here, we'll get back in

1675
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 1: to the professional side of things. Thank you all for

1676
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 1: sticking with us the day after Christmas. Hope you are

1677
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 1: enjoying the time off, if you're off with your family,

1678
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 1: and if you're back at work grinding.

1679
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. I feel like Caleb certainly is setting

1680
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,799
Speaker 2: the mood here on this Friday, giving us the good vibes,

1681
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:17,919
Speaker 2: getting the body.

1682
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 1: Groove, and thank you all for listening. Tune into the

1683
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 1: Fan Morning show here on one step and five the Fan.

1684
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 3: He's catering to the old man compared to the other

1685
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 3: two dudes he's working with today.

1686
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:26,600
Speaker 2: There you go, and that is the voice of the

1687
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 2: legendary great Rastraw.

1688
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,560
Speaker 3: Now nonfold to the normal guy that is connecting the

1689
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 3: ones and twos here even though he's in much better

1690
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 3: shame than me. Ricord has me by a handful of years.

1691
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 3: But if we played this music to record, he'd be

1692
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 3: so lost.

1693
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:42,600
Speaker 2: I think, you know, it's a.

1694
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 1: Little bit, you know, not his arrow, but he's out

1695
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 1: right now. We have Kevin bowing out as well, Mark

1696
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 1: Dyton out as well.

1697
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 3: It could have picked up. I mean, Kevin lives like

1698
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 3: six blocks from me.

1699
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 1: What you attempted to like knock on the door this

1700
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 1: morning and be like, hey man, you want well carpool.

1701
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 3: He's got this unique brother black house and let he's

1702
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 3: like his garage and driveway behind his house like attached

1703
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 3: to an alley and so like it would create a

1704
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 3: lot of work for me to actually have to get

1705
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 3: out the car, walk up a slight hill and knock

1706
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 3: on his door. Plush as much grief as I would

1707
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 3: give KB. He and his wife do have a newborn,

1708
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 3: so I'm like, I'm not gonna go, just you know,

1709
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 3: family sleeping in and enjoy a little holiday time.

1710
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 1: I told him to call Uncle j B if he

1711
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,680
Speaker 1: needs a break he never did, so, I mean, I

1712
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 1: feel offended.

1713
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 3: Once you get to kid three. Man, it's like different

1714
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 3: difference in kid one and kid two. And again you'll

1715
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 3: be there at some point in time, some point in time, right,

1716
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 3: no time. I didn't have kids in my mid thirty

1717
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 3: so you'll be there at some point.

1718
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that break.

1719
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,600
Speaker 1: You know, mama boy, you know you ain't got to

1720
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 1: keep asking all these questions, you know about how serious

1721
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 1: I'm I ain't serious just yet.

1722
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 5: We questions over the holidays, Jay, I get a.

1723
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 2: Couple of my parents are They're like, boy, sit down.

1724
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 3: My wife and I were so late and terms of

1725
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 3: having kids. When we sat my mom and dad down

1726
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 3: to tell them we were finally having having a baby,

1727
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 3: I think they thought we were sitting until we were

1728
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 3: getting divorced. No, I think that was the mental preparation

1729
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,680
Speaker 3: guy in their mind. We probably broke it down. No,

1730
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 3: I figured out what I was doing. Yeah, yeah, maybe pregnant.

1731
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 3: Now congrat you yeah, yus.

1732
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 2: That's hilarious.

1733
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 1: So the bit of button on our conversation from earlier,

1734
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 1: I had a couple of people text the fan text line.

1735
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 1: Sam Shan Kemp was one of their best high school

1736
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 1: players they've ever seen. But as far as the high

1737
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,719
Speaker 1: school scene goes, the Colts currently have a high school

1738
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 1: coach as their quarterback, Philip Rivers. Again, I thought that

1739
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 1: he looked better in a second game back significantly after

1740
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 1: the nearly five year layoff. Took a couple of hits,

1741
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,599
Speaker 1: had to pick six late, but for seventy five percent

1742
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 1: of that game against the forty nine ers, he was

1743
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: not just good for his age.

1744
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 2: In my opinion, break he was good.

1745
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 3: He had an average NFL quarterbacking line. There you go,

1746
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 3: and I'm that as the highest form of a compliment

1747
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 3: because what it was twenty three of thirty five to

1748
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 3: seventy seven, two touchdowns and a pick right somewhere in

1749
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 3: that range. I mean when Daniel Jones was cruising early

1750
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 3: in the year. That's a similar stat line to what

1751
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:21,839
Speaker 3: he would have. Again, folks, if you extrapolate to seventy

1752
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 3: five over seventeen games' somebout like a forty seven hundred

1753
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 3: yard passer for the course for the course of the season,

1754
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 3: you'd be like, all right, you don't have fifteen picks

1755
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 3: in a year, but you get the idea a man

1756
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 3: that had not played in fifty nine months, a man

1757
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 3: that was forty four years of age had a normal

1758
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 3: average NFL game at quarterback. That is remarkable. It has

1759
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 3: gotten to the point. I'm not saying he is your

1760
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 3: starting quarterback or anybody starting quarterback next in the National

1761
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 3: Football League. What say he couldn't think about doing this

1762
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 3: again next year for another team? If he really wants

1763
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 3: to coach high school football, a let's get him a

1764
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 3: job at Cardinal Ritter or something like that. No offense

1765
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 3: to the current coach at rhetoric. I'm not calling for

1766
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 3: your job on a morning show, but let's find Phillip

1767
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 3: a coaching job someplace in Indianapolis where he's kind of

1768
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 3: steam over to the practice facility every now and again,

1769
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 3: and it could be the second string or the third

1770
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 3: string quarterback for this team next year.

1771
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 1: You know what I was speaking of high school? I

1772
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 1: need to be asking him about his son, Gunner. Is

1773
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,440
Speaker 1: I you on the trail here? Do we have a pipeline?

1774
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 1: I mean I do remember or not remember? I do

1775
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 1: know that his position coach I believe in NC State

1776
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: was Kurt Signetti. So could that be a connection there

1777
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 1: to be like, hey, by the way, Kurt I got

1778
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 1: a son. You know, you know how I got down

1779
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:41,640
Speaker 1: my son. He throw a rock just like me.

1780
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 2: You know, let's look at the succession plan for Frina

1781
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 2: mendoz En company.

1782
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 3: Nothing against uncle Phil, all right. I hope his son

1783
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 3: throws the ball a little differently than Phil does.

1784
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:54,600
Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy they actually do throw it, of

1785
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 2: course he does.

1786
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where he learned. But I hope he processes

1787
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 3: the cab like his dad does. I would hope that

1788
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 3: maybe he actually has some shoulder rotation, not that I'm

1789
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 3: some quarterback expert, but actually throws a bit of a

1790
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 3: spiral instead of more of a three quarter shot put. Ye.

1791
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wordswall for Philip Rivers. But I do think

1792
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 1: when we look at his play, he is taking a

1793
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 1: step forward. Can the rest of the team do that

1794
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 1: around him? And can they have a complete game? Because

1795
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 1: you're looking at these cults performances and you're always wanting

1796
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 1: to look at one area and say, we need a

1797
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 1: little bit more here.

1798
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 3: This is a give a insert word here game is

1799
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:37,719
Speaker 3: what this is? Yeah, and again it's two different things

1800
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 3: depending on what happens tomorrow at four point thirty. All right,

1801
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,680
Speaker 3: if the Texans come out and beat the Chargers. Then

1802
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 3: all bets are off and you kind of shrug your

1803
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 3: shoulders and Sunday just kind of happens, and you're looking

1804
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 3: at guys playing for the love of the game, like

1805
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,600
Speaker 3: Philip Rivers or guys that know, hey, I might be

1806
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,719
Speaker 3: playing my last home game here with the Indianapolis Colts,

1807
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 3: whatever the case may be. But if you have a

1808
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 3: playoff birth on the line to keep your season alive,

1809
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 3: how you perform on Sunday says a lot about you

1810
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 3: as an individual. And so that's really what we're gonna

1811
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 3: see on Sunday afternoon, is your give up blank factor high.

1812
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 3: That's what we're gonna find out about this football team.

1813
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 3: Doesn't mean it has to be perfect, but that's what

1814
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 3: it boils down to.

1815
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 1: Yes, And I do think the way this game plays

1816
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 1: out and the rest of the season for that matter,

1817
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 1: will determine the bigger picture questions. I know a lot

1818
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 1: of people keep texting into our text line or the

1819
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 1: YouTube chat or just in general in real life having

1820
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 1: those conversations.

1821
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 2: About the Coults. It's like, what do you do with

1822
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 2: the GM, what do you do with the head coach?

1823
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 2: What do you do at quarterback?

1824
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 1: Those are the three pillars of any NFL franchise, and

1825
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 1: right now, all of that, I would say, is in

1826
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 1: flux when it comes to the Colts and your decision

1827
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 1: that you have to make, because it's not, in my opinion,

1828
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 1: a very easy decision to just you know, go all

1829
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 1: the way one way or all the way the other.

1830
01:26:57,720 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 3: How crazy is it? And maybe it's a true sign

1831
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 3: of where the franchise is. What seems to be the

1832
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 3: simplest decision as to who's back next year is the

1833
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:09,639
Speaker 3: guy that suffered the torn achilles a month ago.

1834
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 1: Boy, isn't that some That's a great perspective to kind

1835
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 1: of put this in. I hadn't thought of it like that, Rake,

1836
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 1: But you ain't lying, brother.

1837
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 3: And again, part of it is circumstances that surround Yeah.

1838
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 3: And again, if if we're having a conversation, if there's

1839
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:27,719
Speaker 3: a number one draft pick involved this year, then maybe

1840
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 3: you go all right, let's just hit the nuclear option reset,

1841
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 3: knowing you're hit a mid first round pick, but you'll

1842
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,599
Speaker 3: go to quarterback there and and just go from there

1843
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 3: everybody out and it's it's you know, But because you

1844
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:44,679
Speaker 3: don't have that, and because the initial reports on his recovery.

1845
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 3: We're six to eight months and not nine to twelve months.

1846
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 3: And that timeline wrapped, you know, goes around training camp

1847
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 3: in August and you go, all right, that's the guy

1848
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:57,600
Speaker 3: you feel most certain about. Is the guy that just

1849
01:27:57,640 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 3: popped his achilles in a game on December the South.

1850
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this isn't really insider information here, but I

1851
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 1: have been told he's obviously pushing to be available, sure

1852
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 1: as soon as he's met busted leg exactly. So for

1853
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 1: those thinking this is going to be a super long rehab,

1854
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 1: it could be. But at the same time, you know

1855
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and timelines, he ain't trying to hear what

1856
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 1: the doctor's telling him about. Oh, it could be on

1857
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 1: the longer side. No, he expects to be ready to

1858
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 1: go by week one of next year.

1859
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 3: After this year, James, You there's things you can question

1860
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 3: about Daniel Jones. Kid's harder toughness is not one of them. Yeah,

1861
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,599
Speaker 3: not one of the point that that and again by

1862
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 3: all accounts, by what everybody else says about him, And

1863
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 3: again you see facial expressions because you're there. You know

1864
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:47,799
Speaker 3: everybody in that room believes in Daniel Jones and respects

1865
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones. From an intangible standpoint, he's the quarterback you want.

1866
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 3: He's the guy you want.

1867
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 1: There you go, So we'll take a quick break here.

1868
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 1: Check back on the other side. This is the fan

1869
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,120
Speaker 1: morning show the day after Christmas. Thank you all for list.

1870
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 3: All right, So, JB in your days of covering the Alion,

1871
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 3: I did you have a game at Camp Randall where

1872
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 3: you could enjoy this song.

1873
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 2: I did not have a chance to enjoy this song

1874
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 2: in person.

1875
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm actually jealous of all the college crowds that actually

1876
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 1: had good product out there to make you happy.

1877
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:20,640
Speaker 3: Sadly, this was the best part of Wisconsin Games this

1878
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 3: past year. It was jump around because the band is

1879
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:26,640
Speaker 3: known for they'll keep performing and they call it the

1880
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 3: fifth quarter. I know these things because my wife actually

1881
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 3: has a master's degree from Madison from the University of Wisconsin,

1882
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 3: and so the band has the fifth quarter. My guess is,

1883
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 3: most fans didn't stay for the fifth quarter this year.

1884
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 6: Nah.

1885
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 3: They jumped around, and they jumped on out the building

1886
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 3: and headed on down to State Street Broughts and swam

1887
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 3: in the lake and went to the Union and the

1888
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:46,719
Speaker 3: rascaler of the whole nine yards.

1889
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 1: I went to college visit to Wisconsin Madison and also Minnesota,

1890
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 1: and it was the dead of Winter's on winter brother.

1891
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 3: I was going to say, do you not like warm weather, James?

1892
01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 2: And that was rough.

1893
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:00,919
Speaker 1: I was thinking to myself, like, they have tunnels in Minnesota,

1894
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get so cold here. You have tunnels you

1895
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 1: have to walk through. So yeah, Illinois went too bad,

1896
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 1: honestly in my opinion, Champagne Urbana, I liked it.

1897
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:12,559
Speaker 3: That Assembly Hall which is now what State Farm Center. Correct, yep.

1898
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 3: I got to do one game in there in my

1899
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 3: days with Iupui of doing the radio. We actually played

1900
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 3: them before finals. It was the one time that we

1901
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 3: did this. We basically turned down having a hotel room

1902
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 3: and drove the cheam straight to the game because we

1903
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 3: knew we were getting a paycheck, a butt whooping and

1904
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 3: going home. George Hill had broken his foot about three

1905
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 3: weeks before this Game's we ain't winning tonight, let's let's

1906
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 3: let's get our paycheck and let's go home. I remember

1907
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:42,680
Speaker 3: driving up to that building and think it looked like

1908
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,600
Speaker 3: a flying saucer hand landed in a cornfield. Boy, And

1909
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 3: that is how I would describe the other Assembly Hall.

1910
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:51,639
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you well, we'll have Matt Taylor join

1911
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 1: us here in a couple of minutes give us some

1912
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 1: of his tailor's tidbits here on this Friday. But as

1913
01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:58,840
Speaker 1: far as one of the tidbits I'm interested in when

1914
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 1: it comes to this team is, as we talked about

1915
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:05,599
Speaker 1: the quarterback, talk about the defense, is there a way

1916
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:10,800
Speaker 1: rake for this team to unlock Jonathan Taylor because he's

1917
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 1: quart a touchdown that was I believe his fifth straight game,

1918
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:16,560
Speaker 1: and he had coincides with every loss, sure of not

1919
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:19,599
Speaker 1: reaching one hundred yards, and that one might have been

1920
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:21,479
Speaker 1: the toughest to look at it. Let's we talk about

1921
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 1: the passing game looking a little better with Philip Rivers.

1922
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,560
Speaker 1: It is stagnant to a degree with JT. And I

1923
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 1: wonder if somebody that has to do with having a

1924
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 1: more immobile quarterback.

1925
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:34,719
Speaker 3: It is twofold. I'm a little quarterback, yes, but obviously

1926
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 3: now you have a defense that is more geared up

1927
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 3: to stop you. And then again, let's acknowledge that on

1928
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 3: Monday night it was Jalen Travis, Quentin Nelson, pretty soon

1929
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:51,680
Speaker 3: it was Danny Pinner, then it was Dalton Tucker, and

1930
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 3: then it was Matt Gonzalbus and so you have had

1931
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:58,320
Speaker 3: to rotate through and then you lose Durogletree during the

1932
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:00,800
Speaker 3: course of that game doing a neck injury. Well, a

1933
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 3: lot of the pieces in front of him have changed,

1934
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 3: and so there's not that many holes to find the

1935
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:10,799
Speaker 3: ones that he was getting earlier in the season.

1936
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:13,439
Speaker 1: Well, one guy who has not changed and is still

1937
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:16,639
Speaker 1: will join us here on Friday mornings is the great

1938
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 1: Matt Taylor.

1939
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 3: Matt, how you doing, brother, I'm good.

1940
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 6: Good morning guys. Merry Christmas to you.

1941
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 3: How was Christmas in the Taylor household? What did Santa

1942
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 3: bring the kids?

1943
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 6: The kids, man, they made out like bandits, I tell

1944
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 6: you what. Between the grandparents and Santa Claus, they're coming

1945
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 6: out on top. So got a lot of got a

1946
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 6: lot of you know, a lot of toys, some games,

1947
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 6: some board games, some video game stuff. God, there's so much.

1948
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 6: They kind of lost count after a while, kind of

1949
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 6: blurred out there for a little bit, but it was

1950
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 6: it was a very good day. Santa was good to everybody.

1951
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:55,639
Speaker 6: So yeah, they're they're in great shape. Hope Hope stand

1952
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:58,639
Speaker 6: delivered some good stuff to the rakestraw playing and same

1953
01:32:58,720 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 6: thing with James.

1954
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:00,679
Speaker 3: Hope you guys are doing well today.

1955
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 1: So later, so did Santa stick around and clean up

1956
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:06,000
Speaker 1: all the wrapping paper and you know tissue everywhere?

1957
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 2: Was that more of you of your variety?

1958
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 6: No, Santa, bales Man, Santa knows the deal. Santa's like

1959
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 6: the Iris goodbye. You know, he just dropped off and

1960
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 6: gets the hell out of Dodge and just let you know.

1961
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:19,600
Speaker 6: But that's the thing that Santa does. He gives you,

1962
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 6: guys plenty of you know, trash bags and you know,

1963
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 6: plenty of garbage binds to clean up the aftermath. But

1964
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 6: uh no, I mean it's a spectacular day. I mean,

1965
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 6: if that's the least we can do, uh, for for

1966
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 6: all that Santa does for us, uh sign me up.

1967
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:36,200
Speaker 3: Every year because you because you were such a sports

1968
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 3: crazed kid, as was I'm sure James was the same way.

1969
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:41,680
Speaker 3: But those us to go the announcer route. We're doing

1970
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 3: play by playing our head and frankly out loud, like

1971
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,680
Speaker 3: we're out in the pickup, you know, playing playing in

1972
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 3: you know, basketball in the driveway. What was the best

1973
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:51,799
Speaker 3: sports related gift you got when you were a kid, Matt.

1974
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 6: Well, there's a couple of them. The just in terms

1975
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 6: of being an athlete. You know, I've got you know,

1976
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 6: I got a ton of foot a ton of basketballs,

1977
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:04,920
Speaker 6: but I got a you know, a Peyton Manning jersey

1978
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 6: growing up. I got an Edgerant James jersey growing up,

1979
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 6: Reggie Miller. I was really into Jeff Foster because I

1980
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 6: was kind of like the player I was on the

1981
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 6: basketball floor. So I had a Jeff Foster jersey, uh,

1982
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:19,560
Speaker 6: you know, in those glory days of the Pacers. But

1983
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 6: as a broadcaster, you know, I say this all the time,

1984
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 6: like you know, I half half joke about this, but

1985
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 6: but it's half truth as well. I mean I was

1986
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 6: that ten year old kid that used to do games

1987
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 6: in my basement, right, I mean it didn't matter I

1988
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 6: turn on hockey games or baseball games or football games. Uh,

1989
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:37,640
Speaker 6: and I would I would do play by play in

1990
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 6: my head. I would, uh you know, bring in a

1991
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 6: transistor radio on a Monday night to finish up listening

1992
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:45,799
Speaker 6: to Monday Night football with Marv Albert and Boomer Size

1993
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:48,720
Speaker 6: and like that. I was that kid. So, uh, my kid,

1994
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:52,120
Speaker 6: my parents got me a talk boy. Remember the talk boy,

1995
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 6: uh you know, like the the Home Alone too talk boy.

1996
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:56,280
Speaker 2: I do remember this.

1997
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 3: I remember the game Boy. I remember the talk Boy. Sorry, yeah,

1998
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:01,320
Speaker 3: like Home Alone two.

1999
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 6: Kevin McCallister had the talkboy, right, like the little like

2000
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:07,799
Speaker 6: recording device that he used it like scheme the hotel

2001
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:09,559
Speaker 6: and to get in free rooms and all that stuff.

2002
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:12,920
Speaker 6: I had a talk Boy with the cassette and I

2003
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:15,839
Speaker 6: would do games in my basement on the talkboy.

2004
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2005
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:19,600
Speaker 6: People should google Talkboy after we're done talking, because that

2006
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 6: was my first you know, broadcast outlet to do and

2007
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 6: play by play, and that's what really sort of you know,

2008
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 6: allowed me to catch the bug. Yeah, talkboy, you know

2009
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 6: back in nineteen ninety seven, Greg big deal, dude.

2010
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 2: Boy mate. I only know what a talkboy is because

2011
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 2: of that movie.

2012
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 3: So by the way, I just I just realized by

2013
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:41,400
Speaker 3: the way that I was the person running the board

2014
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:44,320
Speaker 3: and pushing the buttons as Matt was listening to games

2015
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 3: and I'll go in, say the frequency on twelve sixty

2016
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 3: WND back then, so as he was cashing out as

2017
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:53,599
Speaker 3: like a fourth grader, I was actually being paid six

2018
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 3: bucks an hour to make sure the commercials played two

2019
01:35:57,040 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 3: breaks a quarter courtesy of Westwood One. It's touching and

2020
01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 3: I feel old at the exact same time.

2021
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:06,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, the crackle, the crackle of AM radio.

2022
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:08,760
Speaker 3: And Matt lived on the South side as far away

2023
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 3: from the signal as you could possibly get to. He

2024
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 3: still came in.

2025
01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 6: I guess it was still audible, you know, I still,

2026
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:17,760
Speaker 6: you know, figured out the Buccaneers scored a touchdown in

2027
01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:18,439
Speaker 6: the red zone.

2028
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 3: It's like it was perfect.

2029
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 6: I mean, Marv Albert is still reading those reads.

2030
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 7: I remember like it's yesterday. I mean, this brought to

2031
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:33,080
Speaker 7: you by Barbersall America Close shave Barbersol back to you,

2032
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:34,760
Speaker 7: Bob size, right.

2033
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's what got me hooked. I still

2034
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:38,559
Speaker 6: remember it like it's yesterday.

2035
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 3: Talk boy, indeed, there you go.

2036
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:42,640
Speaker 1: So well, uh, you know, we don't want to keep

2037
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 1: you on the phone too long without getting too the

2038
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 1: real juicy stuff.

2039
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 2: Let's get to Taylor's tidbits.

2040
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:51,799
Speaker 6: All right, let's talk about the matchup Sunday, Lucas Oil Stadium,

2041
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:54,080
Speaker 6: one o'clock. You got the eight and seven Colts eleven

2042
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:58,000
Speaker 6: and four Jaguars, and the Jags are a very complete team.

2043
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 6: They've won six games in a row. They've scored their

2044
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 6: opponents by one hundred and thirteen points in that span.

2045
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:07,759
Speaker 6: That's an average of over eighteen points per game, fellas

2046
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 6: and comparatively, the nearest AFC team, the Texans, they have

2047
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 6: a point margin of only forty three since Week eleven,

2048
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 6: So that gives you perspective on how dominant the Jaguars

2049
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 6: have been, and they've got a legitimate resume. There's not

2050
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 6: a whole lot of flukiness to what they've done this year.

2051
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:29,519
Speaker 6: They've got six wins on the season against opponents that

2052
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 6: currently hold a winning record. That's tied with the La

2053
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 6: Rams for the most in the NFL. The Jaguars are

2054
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:39,719
Speaker 6: currently five and three against teams that are currently inside

2055
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:42,800
Speaker 6: the playoff picher this year, and they are plus ten

2056
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:46,280
Speaker 6: in a turnover margin in those games. That's the best

2057
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:49,719
Speaker 6: in the NFL. All right, So let's talk about their offense.

2058
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:52,679
Speaker 6: It's rowing they're on a six game heater the Jags

2059
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:55,680
Speaker 6: leave the NFL and offensive points scored per game at

2060
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:59,840
Speaker 6: almost thirty four points per game in that span. And

2061
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:03,840
Speaker 6: this coincides with the Colts defense really reeling a little bit,

2062
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 6: all right. They have lost five games in a row

2063
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:10,959
Speaker 6: and in that stretch they ranked thirty first in passing defense,

2064
01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:15,639
Speaker 6: thirty first in yards allowed, and twenty eighth in points

2065
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 6: allowed and the big plays. Right, if you boil it

2066
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 6: all down to, like the one thing that's really killing

2067
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:25,320
Speaker 6: the Colts consistently, it's the big plays on through the air,

2068
01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:28,599
Speaker 6: I should say, you know, the team's really racking up

2069
01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 6: big chunk yardage through the air. Against the Colts on

2070
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 6: Monday Night Football, the Colts allowed the forty nine ers

2071
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:38,639
Speaker 6: to post eleven plays that covered at least fifteen yards.

2072
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:42,080
Speaker 6: And in the last five games during this losing skit

2073
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:46,800
Speaker 6: for the Colts, they've allowed thirty eight completions over fifteen So,

2074
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:49,120
Speaker 6: you know, we talk about the hard truth in terms

2075
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:51,000
Speaker 6: of where the Colts are at right now, the Colts

2076
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 6: defense is sort of, unfortunately, right back where it was

2077
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:56,679
Speaker 6: to end last year, towards the bottom of the league

2078
01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 6: in overall defense. All right, Lawrence, he is on fire.

2079
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 6: He has produced two hundred and twenty five plus passing yards,

2080
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:11,040
Speaker 6: two plus passing touchdowns, a one hundred plus passer rating

2081
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 6: in zero turnovers in each of his last four games.

2082
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 6: That is the longest streak in Jaguars franchise history. It's

2083
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:22,960
Speaker 6: also tied for the longest streak in the NFL this year.

2084
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:27,120
Speaker 6: In his last four games, fourteen touchdowns, the most in

2085
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:30,480
Speaker 6: the NFL. In that span, He's got thirty three touchdowns

2086
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 6: on the year, that's third most in the NFL, and

2087
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:36,560
Speaker 6: he also aims for at least two passing touchdowns in

2088
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:40,840
Speaker 6: his fifth straight game against the Indianapolis Colts. And then

2089
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:43,919
Speaker 6: on the other side of the ball, the Jaguars on defense.

2090
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:47,599
Speaker 6: Since Week eleven, they lead the NFL in scoring only

2091
01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:50,799
Speaker 6: fifteen points per game, they're number one in the NFL

2092
01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:55,080
Speaker 6: and rushing defense eighty seven yards allowed on the ground

2093
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:57,880
Speaker 6: per game, and they give it up twenty points or

2094
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:01,800
Speaker 6: fewer in four straight games. That is the longest Jaguars

2095
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 6: streak since twenty and eighteen. And what the Colts have

2096
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:08,320
Speaker 6: to do is get some sort of semblance in the

2097
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:11,040
Speaker 6: ground game going with Jonathan Taylor. Taylor, by the way,

2098
01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:14,439
Speaker 6: the only player the Jaguars have allowed to rush for

2099
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:17,760
Speaker 6: seventy plus yards in a game this year, and during

2100
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 6: this five game losing skid for the Colts, they rank

2101
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:24,439
Speaker 6: thirtieth in rushing yards, thirtieth in yards per game on

2102
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:27,559
Speaker 6: the ground at just eighty one thirty first, and yards

2103
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 6: per carry at three point five and they only have

2104
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:33,800
Speaker 6: eight runs over ten yards in that span. That's the

2105
01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 6: second fewest in the NFL. And here's a little bit

2106
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:40,040
Speaker 6: of a bonus tidbit that I'll wrap up with. You know,

2107
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 6: we talk all the time, right when the Colts and

2108
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:44,759
Speaker 6: Jaguars get together. What do we always talk about, especially

2109
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 6: down there in North Florida, We always talk about the streak, Right,

2110
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:51,880
Speaker 6: Colts haven't won in Jacksonville in due ball, you know,

2111
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:56,240
Speaker 6: at EverBank Stadium since the twenty fourteen season. Well, the

2112
01:40:56,360 --> 01:41:00,040
Speaker 6: home team in this series has been absolutely dominant. It

2113
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 6: doesn't matter if you're playing at Lucas Oil Stadium or

2114
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:06,519
Speaker 6: at in Jacksonville. Down in North Florida, the home team

2115
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:11,000
Speaker 6: is nineteen and two in the last twenty one games

2116
01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:13,840
Speaker 6: in this series. The Colts have won six of the

2117
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:17,559
Speaker 6: last seven games against Jacksonville Lucas Oil Stadium and ten

2118
01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 6: of their last twelve in Indianapolis. Hopefully that's a good

2119
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:23,760
Speaker 6: omen for this game with the Colts being the home team,

2120
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:26,519
Speaker 6: needing to get a win, needing to stay alive in

2121
01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:28,880
Speaker 6: the playoffs. And we'll see if the Colts get some

2122
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 6: help on Saturday tomorrow with the Texans losing to the Chargers.

2123
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:35,720
Speaker 3: It's a lot of tidbits you do a lot of

2124
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:37,320
Speaker 3: work for this segment, Matt, I appreciate that.

2125
01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 6: Listen, you're either getting better, you're getting work right, all right,

2126
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:44,599
Speaker 6: that's the deal, baby.

2127
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:47,759
Speaker 3: What has been the favorite part of telling the Philip

2128
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:49,679
Speaker 3: Rivers story for you the last couple of weeks?

2129
01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:53,760
Speaker 6: For me, it's just seeing him and getting to know

2130
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:55,760
Speaker 6: him a little bit better and actually getting to talk

2131
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:56,479
Speaker 6: to him in person.

2132
01:41:56,640 --> 01:41:56,800
Speaker 3: Gray.

2133
01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:58,840
Speaker 6: I mean, the last time he was here was in

2134
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 6: twenty twenty during the COVID restrictions and everything was virtual

2135
01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:05,200
Speaker 6: on Zoom or teleconferences and stuff like that, and we

2136
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 6: made it a point on the broadcast on Monday. I

2137
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:10,599
Speaker 6: mean last week, you know, against the forty nine ers,

2138
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:12,559
Speaker 6: that was his first chance to put on a colt's

2139
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 6: uniform and play in front of a packed house during COVID.

2140
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:18,479
Speaker 6: The most fans he ever played in front of at

2141
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 6: Lucas Oil Stadium was fourteen thousand. Of course, they were

2142
01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 6: all kind of spread out all over the stadium because

2143
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:28,640
Speaker 6: of COVID restrictions. But I mean, he is it's remarkable

2144
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:32,640
Speaker 6: how well he played. I mean to me, it's just,

2145
01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:35,000
Speaker 6: I mean, you shouldn't be able to do what he

2146
01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 6: is doing at age forty four, and I get it right,

2147
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 6: it's only a two game sample size, but I mean

2148
01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 6: to throw, for you know, almost three hundred yards and

2149
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:45,720
Speaker 6: two touchdowns in front of the whole world watching you

2150
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:48,479
Speaker 6: when you haven't played, you know, in four and a

2151
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:51,680
Speaker 6: half years, it's just remarkable. So I mean credit to

2152
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 6: what the what the human mind can do and what

2153
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:56,920
Speaker 6: it's capable of, right, I mean, if you stay engaged

2154
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:59,720
Speaker 6: and you study, and you know your stuff, and you're

2155
01:42:59,880 --> 01:43:01,600
Speaker 6: you're on top of your p's and q's from a

2156
01:43:01,640 --> 01:43:05,440
Speaker 6: mental side of things, you can be really successful regardless

2157
01:43:05,479 --> 01:43:08,040
Speaker 6: of what your physical limitations and what your body tells you.

2158
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:10,840
Speaker 6: So I mean Philip Rivers, I mean not to sound

2159
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 6: too profound, but I mean he's an inspiration and he's

2160
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:16,640
Speaker 6: really given this team a big juice and a lot

2161
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:18,719
Speaker 6: of jolt late in season trying to make the playoffs.

2162
01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:22,559
Speaker 2: Last one I got for you, Mata. Are you someone

2163
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:23,839
Speaker 2: who is like the players?

2164
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,719
Speaker 1: Will you be watching every second of tomorrow's game between

2165
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 1: the Chargers and the Texans?

2166
01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 6: Absolutely? I mean, this is what the NFL wants. I mean,

2167
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:37,080
Speaker 6: parody is absolutely king. You know, Roger Goodell is he's

2168
01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:39,479
Speaker 6: just foaming at the mouth right now because so many

2169
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 6: teams are still alive and have a chance this late

2170
01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:45,120
Speaker 6: in the season, and that's what he wants. He wants

2171
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:49,519
Speaker 6: fans engaged as long as possible throughout the course of

2172
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 6: the NFL season. And you know, we talked about it

2173
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:54,640
Speaker 6: again last week. I mean, what's the number. I mean,

2174
01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:58,800
Speaker 6: since nineteen ninety at least four teams make the playoffs

2175
01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:01,519
Speaker 6: every year that didn't the year before. I mean, every

2176
01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:03,719
Speaker 6: year you see a team go from worse to first,

2177
01:44:03,880 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 6: as is the case potentially depending on what happens these

2178
01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:10,639
Speaker 6: last two games with the Jacksonville Jaguars. So yeah, meaningful

2179
01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:14,559
Speaker 6: football in late December early January is what everybody wants

2180
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 6: to watch and consume and be a part of. And

2181
01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:21,320
Speaker 6: hopefully the Colts get some help. I mean the last

2182
01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:23,880
Speaker 6: month and a half really, since that Berlin game and

2183
01:44:23,960 --> 01:44:27,680
Speaker 6: the bye, it's like everything the Colts need to go

2184
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:32,520
Speaker 6: right outside of their control has gone wrong. The Jaguars

2185
01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:35,720
Speaker 6: keep winning, that Texans keep winning. You know, they don't

2186
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:37,720
Speaker 6: get any help from anybody else when it comes to

2187
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:40,360
Speaker 6: their strength of schedule and AFC record and all of

2188
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:43,360
Speaker 6: that stuff. So maybe tomorrow is the day where they

2189
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:45,800
Speaker 6: finally get a little bit of a break and some help.

2190
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 6: But I mean, unfortunately you've stubbed your toe so much

2191
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:52,880
Speaker 6: that now you're relying all of that. But you know,

2192
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:54,640
Speaker 6: if you don't take care of your own business this

2193
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:57,960
Speaker 6: week on Sunday even you know, let's say the Texans

2194
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:00,920
Speaker 6: win or excuse me the charges the Texans, I should

2195
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 6: say tomorrow, none of that matters. If the Colts don't

2196
01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:07,240
Speaker 6: start helping themselves, which they haven't done obviously in the

2197
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 6: last five weeks.

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Speaker 2: Well may tell we appreciate the time.

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Speaker 3: Brother.

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01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:13,000
Speaker 1: I will see you over at to facility later today

2201
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:16,040
Speaker 1: and again, happy belated Merry Christmas.

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01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 3: You guys too.

2203
01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:19,120
Speaker 6: Always good to be with you, Greg, always good to

2204
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:21,760
Speaker 6: hear your voice. We'll see you soon and appreciate all

2205
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 6: you guys do.

2206
01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:24,600
Speaker 3: I will see you on Sunday to look forward to

2207
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:26,439
Speaker 3: the ballet that Matt and I do. We have three

2208
01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 3: and a half minutes to switch chairs after he does

2209
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:32,599
Speaker 3: his first segment of the postgame show. And so normally

2210
01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 3: I have a laptop with all the emails because people

2211
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 3: on all this Matt coordinates everything for the radio network.

2212
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:40,519
Speaker 3: So like all the scripts that I have, like he

2213
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 3: was referencing the you know, the wonderful folks at Barbasol

2214
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 3: who are also the presenters of the Horizon League Men'smen's

2215
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:50,160
Speaker 3: Basketball Championships. By the way, so finally crafted commercial much

2216
01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:51,880
Speaker 3: is like this. I have a script from Matt of

2217
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,439
Speaker 3: ones that I get through during my three hour tour

2218
01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:57,120
Speaker 3: of the postgame show. So I've got that laptop open

2219
01:45:57,520 --> 01:45:59,960
Speaker 3: as then Matt that has to unplug about nineteen day

2220
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:03,599
Speaker 3: different gizmos before then he exits to go check out

2221
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:06,080
Speaker 3: there are you know, postgame interviews and stuff like that.

2222
01:46:06,280 --> 01:46:08,600
Speaker 3: So we get to see each other during practice or

2223
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:11,240
Speaker 3: have email chats, but there's always three and a half

2224
01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:13,640
Speaker 3: minutes we're about three feet apart from each other as

2225
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:16,679
Speaker 3: we're trying to extract one and almost like a sports

2226
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:19,280
Speaker 3: car team changing drivers in the middle of a race,

2227
01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 3: kind of what we do in the culture Cult Truth

2228
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:24,200
Speaker 3: were athletes and it was really mad and not me.

2229
01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 3: Were is the key thing there?

2230
01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's like a fire drill, but we've

2231
01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 6: gotten pretty good at it. It's like poetry in emotion.

2232
01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:33,960
Speaker 6: You know, I'm spinning away from contact from you. You're

2233
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:36,800
Speaker 6: sliding into the little crease there and I'm ripping stuff

2234
01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:38,800
Speaker 6: off the wall trying to get out of your guys way,

2235
01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:41,519
Speaker 6: and it's it's a beautiful dance that we do. But

2236
01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 6: I think we have it down to perfection. And I

2237
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 6: appreciate all of you guys do. I mean, the postgame

2238
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:49,080
Speaker 6: show is just absolutely humming and hopefully the Colts give

2239
01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 6: you guys some good content to talk about for two

2240
01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:52,719
Speaker 6: and a half hours coming up on Sunday afternoon.

2241
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was pretty spoiled for two months. It'd be

2242
01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:55,360
Speaker 3: nice to go back to that again.

2243
01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:55,559
Speaker 6: Matt.

2244
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:58,560
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie boy, see you buddy.

2245
01:46:58,840 --> 01:46:59,840
Speaker 6: All right, I'll talk to you guys.

2246
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:01,200
Speaker 3: Say we got to say.

2247
01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 1: Everything I wrote for two months with the greatest Cults

2248
01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:05,960
Speaker 1: article ever, and all of a sudden, now when I

2249
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:07,479
Speaker 1: write something it gets garbage.

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Speaker 2: James, what are you doing?

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01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:08,600
Speaker 6: You?

2252
01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:12,160
Speaker 2: You need to change this franchise. That's hard enough questions.

2253
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:16,280
Speaker 3: I've got a tidbit for you. Who is the leading

2254
01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:20,920
Speaker 3: total points, leading scoring offense in the AFC.

2255
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:27,200
Speaker 2: Total points, total points AFC AFC Yep, it better not

2256
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:27,879
Speaker 2: be the Jaguars.

2257
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:30,480
Speaker 3: It can't be the Jaguars. Not the Jaguars. The Jaguars

2258
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:33,400
Speaker 3: are currently tied for third.

2259
01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:38,360
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Caleb, you want a wigh in I bet

2260
01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:39,719
Speaker 2: you it's still the Colts.

2261
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 3: It is not the Colts, but Caleb knows the direction

2262
01:47:42,360 --> 01:47:46,120
Speaker 3: I'm going with this conversation. Boy, I'm trying to think,

2263
01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:47,920
Speaker 3: would you like me to give you the number one answer?

2264
01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:51,840
Speaker 3: That the Buffalo Bills? So who would be second? It

2265
01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:53,760
Speaker 3: can't be the cat It's still at the Indianapolis.

2266
01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:54,160
Speaker 4: Wow.

2267
01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 3: Four and nineteen points. Wow. The Colts have scored more

2268
01:47:57,520 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 3: points than the Jacksonville Jaguars and the Houston Texans, and

2269
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:05,840
Speaker 3: then Texans went on defense. Texans has scored three hundred

2270
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:08,519
Speaker 3: and forty six points. The Texans are not Texans are

2271
01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 3: a race to twenty. They're gonna beach twenty three twenty

2272
01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 3: every time they play them.

2273
01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:11,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2274
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:12,599
Speaker 2: Wow, boy.

2275
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:17,960
Speaker 3: Cults are the second highest scoring offense in the in

2276
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 3: the AFC and more than likely miss the playoffs. Now

2277
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:27,720
Speaker 3: misery loves company in the NFC because currently the two

2278
01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:30,400
Speaker 3: highest scoring offenses are two of the three highest scoring

2279
01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:34,560
Speaker 3: offenses the NFC have already been eliminated cow playoffs. The

2280
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:38,400
Speaker 3: Cowboys are third. The Lions are the highest scoring team

2281
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:41,479
Speaker 3: in the National Football League and will not make the playoffs.

2282
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:44,840
Speaker 1: So I guess if you're looking for a civil lining mirror.

2283
01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:46,840
Speaker 1: It could be worse. Well, it could be worse.

2284
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:49,600
Speaker 3: Know what this tells you is that you know the

2285
01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:52,920
Speaker 3: league is a pendulum in terms of how you know,

2286
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:55,360
Speaker 3: how we go back and forth. It's a passing league,

2287
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:58,479
Speaker 3: it's a high scoring league. The teams that are playing

2288
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 3: defense the ones that are winning. So just just something

2289
01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:04,519
Speaker 3: to marinate on, think about.

2290
01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:07,400
Speaker 1: Well, I'll think about that throughout this check down, Caleb.

2291
01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:10,560
Speaker 1: Let's run it down. Let's start where we finished with

2292
01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:13,920
Speaker 1: the Colts. The injury report came out yesterday.

2293
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:14,240
Speaker 3: Rack.

2294
01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 1: It wasn't an official practice, but anything that set out

2295
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 1: to you on that note, So the two things.

2296
01:49:19,439 --> 01:49:22,519
Speaker 3: Sauce Gardner was listed as a limited participant now again

2297
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:26,519
Speaker 3: when the team hadn't walk through, not a practice, he

2298
01:49:26,720 --> 01:49:30,800
Speaker 3: was listed as DNP. When the team did nothing and

2299
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:34,800
Speaker 3: did not report, he was listed as a limited participant.

2300
01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:37,240
Speaker 3: But it is still in a step in a right

2301
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:40,759
Speaker 3: direction after having a calf injury. Now, the other notable

2302
01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 3: would be Bernard Ryman, who obviously has missed time due

2303
01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:47,320
Speaker 3: to an elbow injury. He was listed as limited in

2304
01:49:47,439 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 3: a walkthrough on Wednesday, when he wasn't even on fifty

2305
01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:56,640
Speaker 3: sixth Street. He was listed as a full participant in

2306
01:49:56,800 --> 01:50:00,960
Speaker 3: practice yesterday. But frankly what matters is JB will see

2307
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:03,200
Speaker 3: with his own eyes once he leaves the studio here,

2308
01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:07,240
Speaker 3: because the Colts will have an actual practice and James

2309
01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:10,640
Speaker 3: will see about fifteen minutes of it, and in that

2310
01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:13,280
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes he'll be able to determine exactly who was

2311
01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:15,840
Speaker 3: able to participate in said practice, which means what their

2312
01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:19,240
Speaker 3: status just might be for Sunday afternoon. And again, folks,

2313
01:50:19,640 --> 01:50:22,120
Speaker 3: I will point out a player could be cleared to

2314
01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:25,160
Speaker 3: go today and if the game tomorrow doesn't go the

2315
01:50:25,240 --> 01:50:27,599
Speaker 3: way they want it to, that player could be sat

2316
01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:29,040
Speaker 3: out just for the rest of the season they had

2317
01:50:29,080 --> 01:50:31,280
Speaker 3: there's no reason to push the issue, as I would

2318
01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 3: believe would be the case with guys like Ryman and

2319
01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:34,640
Speaker 3: Gardner both. There you go.

2320
01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:37,920
Speaker 1: And then as far as the other Christmas Day games

2321
01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:41,839
Speaker 1: from yesterday, the Cowboys knock off the Commanders, the Vikings

2322
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:44,599
Speaker 1: knock off the Lions and eliminate Detroit from playoff contention,

2323
01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:47,640
Speaker 1: and the Broncos beat the Chiefs in what could be

2324
01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:50,479
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey's last game at Arrowhead.

2325
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:52,760
Speaker 3: And of course that's only the second biggest news of

2326
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:56,519
Speaker 3: the week for the Chiefs. Their new stadium package going

2327
01:50:56,600 --> 01:51:00,280
Speaker 3: to Kansas, Kansas. Correct, So they are Kansas City. Of

2328
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:01,479
Speaker 3: all the places I go to, I think of a

2329
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:04,799
Speaker 3: pretty good sense of geography and direction. I get turned

2330
01:51:04,840 --> 01:51:08,160
Speaker 3: around in downtown KC. Because it's so hilly and because

2331
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:11,360
Speaker 3: the airport is so far away from Kansas City. But yes,

2332
01:51:12,280 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 3: the stadium is actually in the Missouri half where the

2333
01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:17,880
Speaker 3: city proper is. But if you look like what I

2334
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:21,519
Speaker 3: would think is north, the bluffs are actually west where

2335
01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:25,040
Speaker 3: Kansas is. They're gonna move out by I would assume

2336
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:28,640
Speaker 3: where the soccer facility and the racetrack are, which is

2337
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:32,000
Speaker 3: in the western suburbs, which is Kansas. And the state

2338
01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:33,720
Speaker 3: of Kansas apparently is going to finance this is the

2339
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:37,200
Speaker 3: tune of one point eight billion dollars to have a

2340
01:51:37,680 --> 01:51:41,640
Speaker 3: retractable roof slash indoor stadium for the Kansas Chiefs that

2341
01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:44,559
Speaker 3: is supposed to be operational by twenty thirty one.

2342
01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:48,560
Speaker 2: So that means the gary Berrys will be moving to

2343
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:50,320
Speaker 2: Northwest Indiana.

2344
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:54,920
Speaker 3: Air down in Chicago Bear twenty thirty two, Okay, over

2345
01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:56,840
Speaker 3: the toll road to Victory.

2346
01:51:58,320 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 2: So that is pre newsworthy. We'll see how real the

2347
01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:01,840
Speaker 2: Bears thing is.

2348
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:05,040
Speaker 3: But every long pass that Caleb Williams not completes, butan

2349
01:52:05,080 --> 01:52:06,719
Speaker 3: owners the sky way going forward.

2350
01:52:07,680 --> 01:52:08,080
Speaker 6: There you go.

2351
01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:11,080
Speaker 1: And then on the NBA side of things, last night

2352
01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:13,960
Speaker 1: we had some great action. I'll start with the best

2353
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:16,240
Speaker 1: game of the day, the Nuggets and the turmber Wolves.

2354
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:18,320
Speaker 1: They go to overtime and a koli Jolkids gets the

2355
01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:22,519
Speaker 1: last last over Anthony Edwards. Nakoli Jokis finishes with fifty

2356
01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 1: six points, sixteen rebounds, fifteen assists, and just you run

2357
01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:31,479
Speaker 1: out of words for that guy. Incredible player, probably one

2358
01:52:31,560 --> 01:52:33,840
Speaker 1: of the best players ever, not just of this era.

2359
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 2: When it's all said and.

2360
01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:37,679
Speaker 3: Done again, I did the math earlier. Fifty six points

2361
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 3: and fifteen assists, and again I don't know whether it

2362
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:42,160
Speaker 3: were si just on twos or assists on three. Somebody

2363
01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:43,880
Speaker 3: that was there as an actual beat writer could tell you,

2364
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:45,840
Speaker 3: or go back at a box score and look, but

2365
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:50,439
Speaker 3: at minimum he contributed to eighty six of their one

2366
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:53,479
Speaker 3: hundred and forty two points in a win. For a

2367
01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:55,919
Speaker 3: guy that and I mean this as a compliment, seemingly

2368
01:52:56,080 --> 01:53:01,040
Speaker 3: does not care and obviously he tries, given how he plays,

2369
01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:03,719
Speaker 3: but it's very much looking forward to not playing basketball.

2370
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:05,479
Speaker 3: Hang with his buddies back in Eastern Europe as soon

2371
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:07,840
Speaker 3: as this whole thing is done, so forgot. That doesn't

2372
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:09,519
Speaker 3: give a darn to the hell of a player.

2373
01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:10,560
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely.

2374
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:13,200
Speaker 1: And so we had the Rockets blow out the Lakers.

2375
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:16,599
Speaker 1: They looked old, and Lebron James he looked old as well.

2376
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:19,920
Speaker 1: The Warriors beat the Mavericks. The Spurs knock up the Thunder.

2377
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:22,200
Speaker 1: That was notable because the Thunder are the number one

2378
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:24,880
Speaker 1: seed in the West, but the Spurs are the number

2379
01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:27,080
Speaker 1: two seed. They'ved their number. They've won three straight against them.

2380
01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 1: And in the first game of the day was the

2381
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 1: Knicks beating the Cavaliers. My father was pretty happy.

2382
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:35,560
Speaker 3: Guy. If Lebron looks like he is aging, that is

2383
01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:39,439
Speaker 3: correct because his next birthday is on Tuesday, so he

2384
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:41,479
Speaker 3: turns another year older on Tuesday.

2385
01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:44,080
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what is getting later early for those Lakers.

2386
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:45,880
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I don't think any Pacers

2387
01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:49,160
Speaker 1: fans here feel any sympathy towards that that franchise. They

2388
01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:51,479
Speaker 1: denied them the championship twenty five years ago.

2389
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:53,640
Speaker 3: Do you want you want to know how I know

2390
01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:57,919
Speaker 3: that his birthday is on Tuesday. I share a birthday

2391
01:53:58,160 --> 01:53:59,400
Speaker 3: with Lebron James.

2392
01:53:59,240 --> 01:54:01,880
Speaker 2: Oh well, no, he's there's one with you well and

2393
01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:02,719
Speaker 2: Tiger Woods.

2394
01:54:02,760 --> 01:54:05,320
Speaker 3: Greg correct. And to that point, I think I was

2395
01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:09,519
Speaker 3: born on the greatest athletic birthday of all time. The

2396
01:54:09,680 --> 01:54:13,240
Speaker 3: rundown of athletes born on that day would be Lebron James,

2397
01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:18,160
Speaker 3: Tiger Woods, and Sandy Kofound Boy. We're all born on

2398
01:54:18,240 --> 01:54:21,599
Speaker 3: December the thirtieth. No matter what I do in life,

2399
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:24,719
Speaker 3: I will not be able to surpass those people born

2400
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:25,799
Speaker 3: on December the thirtieth.

2401
01:54:26,439 --> 01:54:28,320
Speaker 1: I would say I will put you in that conversation.

2402
01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:30,600
Speaker 1: You're on the Hall of Fame board. You're Hall of

2403
01:54:30,640 --> 01:54:31,080
Speaker 1: Fame with Jay.

2404
01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:35,440
Speaker 3: I am maybe in the aj Pierzinski Eliza Dushku category,

2405
01:54:35,800 --> 01:54:39,560
Speaker 3: also born on December the thirtieth, And because of his infractions,

2406
01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:42,840
Speaker 3: maybe I have surpassed Matt Lower as both he and

2407
01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:46,320
Speaker 3: Meredith vi Era also a part of the December.

2408
01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:48,800
Speaker 2: Thirtieth Who that's a hell of birthday right there.

2409
01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:52,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, since since Matt has gone by the wayside and

2410
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:54,840
Speaker 3: Meredith is doing crappy game shows, at this point, I

2411
01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:58,200
Speaker 3: might be the top broadcaster born on December the thirtieth currently,

2412
01:54:58,600 --> 01:55:02,120
Speaker 3: not historically, Maybe I'm at least inching into that conversation.

2413
01:55:02,240 --> 01:55:04,440
Speaker 2: There you go, Rag, I'll put you there and for

2414
01:55:04,520 --> 01:55:05,480
Speaker 2: the well by.

2415
01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:07,080
Speaker 3: The way, but thank you God, blessing sho you there.

2416
01:55:07,160 --> 01:55:08,640
Speaker 1: We'll take a quick back here. Thank you all for

2417
01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:11,160
Speaker 1: listening there after Christmas. We know it is family time,

2418
01:55:11,200 --> 01:55:12,880
Speaker 1: but we appreciate you being a part of our family

2419
01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:17,240
Speaker 1: as well. And the head Bobby continues thanks to the

2420
01:55:17,320 --> 01:55:19,240
Speaker 1: great Caleb Zuber on the ones and two. He's back

2421
01:55:19,280 --> 01:55:22,000
Speaker 1: there like he's club DJ right there.

2422
01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 4: You know how I found out this song, Greg, It's

2423
01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:26,840
Speaker 4: not because I was born in the nineties, but it

2424
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:30,760
Speaker 4: was on the Last Dance documentary Michael Jordan. They had

2425
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:33,480
Speaker 4: a great sound tray, O my goodness, and it was

2426
01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:34,000
Speaker 4: pretty good.

2427
01:55:34,080 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 3: And I can tell you as somebody that lived that.

2428
01:55:36,520 --> 01:55:40,720
Speaker 3: So MJ like his first title was my freshman year

2429
01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:42,880
Speaker 3: in high school. I'm not sure you're ever as big

2430
01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:44,280
Speaker 3: of a sports fan as you are like in middle

2431
01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:46,440
Speaker 3: school in high school, because like life doesn't get in

2432
01:55:46,520 --> 01:55:49,080
Speaker 3: the way, so your life revolves around watching all of

2433
01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:52,680
Speaker 3: these things. But then that didn't span like my first

2434
01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:56,880
Speaker 3: professional job where I did this full time. Like I'm

2435
01:55:57,040 --> 01:56:00,080
Speaker 3: actually by the time we get to ninety eight and

2436
01:56:00,240 --> 01:56:02,480
Speaker 3: this will resonate with you, JB. I was on the

2437
01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:06,400
Speaker 3: evening sports show on WGN as like the Indianapolis represent way,

2438
01:56:07,040 --> 01:56:10,200
Speaker 3: like like doing an interview talking about vividly or remember

2439
01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:14,280
Speaker 3: telling them between game five and six, I'm like, listen,

2440
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:16,800
Speaker 3: I understand you guys are who you are. You're not

2441
01:56:16,880 --> 01:56:19,360
Speaker 3: winning Game Six's market Square arena. I said, I can

2442
01:56:19,400 --> 01:56:21,400
Speaker 3: see you guys winning game seven at the United Center.

2443
01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:23,680
Speaker 3: And I realized, everything that you've seen for the last

2444
01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:25,520
Speaker 3: seven or eight years tells you you guys are gonna

2445
01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:28,680
Speaker 3: come here and win game six. Like, no, no, you're not, said,

2446
01:56:28,840 --> 01:56:30,600
Speaker 3: I think the balls will probably winning in seven, which

2447
01:56:30,680 --> 01:56:32,800
Speaker 3: is exactly how it played out. But that was like

2448
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:34,520
Speaker 3: one of the first times that I did that is

2449
01:56:34,640 --> 01:56:37,000
Speaker 3: like the like, you know, let's go to get the

2450
01:56:37,080 --> 01:56:40,200
Speaker 3: Indianapolis sports talk radio perspective. It's Brett Restraw. They didn't

2451
01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:41,880
Speaker 3: know I was just a producer, you know whatever. I

2452
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:45,320
Speaker 3: was just random voice form Indianapolis. And so I remember that.

2453
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:47,600
Speaker 3: And yes, of all the great things about the Last

2454
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 3: Dance documentary, they not only hit the right music, they

2455
01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:55,320
Speaker 3: hit the music to like the year in which they

2456
01:56:55,360 --> 01:56:57,040
Speaker 3: were showing the game.

2457
01:56:57,080 --> 01:56:58,480
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't realize that's a nice touch.

2458
01:56:58,600 --> 01:57:00,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really good. It's fantastic. Boy.

2459
01:57:00,920 --> 01:57:03,320
Speaker 1: Well, Caleb, when you work on the Last Dance documentary

2460
01:57:03,360 --> 01:57:07,560
Speaker 1: for your boy, we'll make the holds we'll talk about

2461
01:57:07,760 --> 01:57:09,040
Speaker 1: when you get a couple of those clips and me

2462
01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:12,440
Speaker 1: shooting those bricks against JAMV and missing layoffs. You know,

2463
01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:14,040
Speaker 1: I don't have to make it into a documentary, but

2464
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 1: we'll make our own bootleg version.

2465
01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:16,120
Speaker 2: How about that.

2466
01:57:16,440 --> 01:57:18,800
Speaker 5: I need to come out there sometime and hoop with y'all.

2467
01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:19,000
Speaker 7: Man.

2468
01:57:19,160 --> 01:57:21,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been telling you that, like, like, what's this

2469
01:57:21,880 --> 01:57:24,120
Speaker 5: Colt season's over? Because they're not making the playoffs.

2470
01:57:24,360 --> 01:57:26,440
Speaker 1: I gotta get JMV to see if we can open

2471
01:57:26,520 --> 01:57:29,440
Speaker 1: up the club. You know, they're selective of the group.

2472
01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:33,360
Speaker 1: But I will say this, speaking of selective, that is

2473
01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:35,840
Speaker 1: what the NFL playoffs is and what the Colts have

2474
01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:40,120
Speaker 1: to kind of measure in wigh this weekend. And you know,

2475
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:42,800
Speaker 1: it's crazy to think that. And I want to say

2476
01:57:42,840 --> 01:57:44,840
Speaker 1: it was a listener last week reached out Rake and

2477
01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:49,800
Speaker 1: said there's a chance that Indiana football will win a

2478
01:57:49,960 --> 01:57:54,200
Speaker 1: game in Lucas Oil Stadium more recently.

2479
01:57:54,200 --> 01:57:55,720
Speaker 3: Than the cult. Yes, very much so.

2480
01:57:56,240 --> 01:57:58,280
Speaker 1: And when I say that statement out loud, to you,

2481
01:57:58,880 --> 01:58:01,360
Speaker 1: how crazy does that sound. We're a week away from

2482
01:58:02,120 --> 01:58:05,960
Speaker 1: are you trying to continue a national championship run? Whereas

2483
01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:08,800
Speaker 1: in a couple of days we're trying to see if

2484
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:11,160
Speaker 1: the once eight and two Colts can back go the

2485
01:58:11,160 --> 01:58:12,040
Speaker 1: way into the postseason.

2486
01:58:12,120 --> 01:58:14,960
Speaker 3: Well two months ago it was these three things could

2487
01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:17,040
Speaker 3: happen within three months of our four months of each other.

2488
01:58:17,440 --> 01:58:20,440
Speaker 3: Indiana plays in the Big Ten Championship game, the AFC

2489
01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:24,360
Speaker 3: Championship Game takes place, and then Purdue plays in the

2490
01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:29,000
Speaker 3: Final Four at Lucas Oil. All of those things no

2491
01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:31,640
Speaker 3: longer possible for the Colts because if the Colts make

2492
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:33,440
Speaker 3: the playoffs, they would be at the number seven seeds.

2493
01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:36,240
Speaker 3: So we can wave bye by to that, both mathematically

2494
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:40,240
Speaker 3: and obviously realistically at this point in time, one is

2495
01:58:40,280 --> 01:58:44,400
Speaker 3: already in the past tense. And you know, for Indiana football,

2496
01:58:45,120 --> 01:58:47,760
Speaker 3: you know we that do this from a sports talk standpoint,

2497
01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:51,360
Speaker 3: we tend to be, you know, what's the next thing

2498
01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:53,040
Speaker 3: in the here and now? And so obviously, if it

2499
01:58:53,080 --> 01:58:55,240
Speaker 3: comes to the National Football League, it is every six days,

2500
01:58:55,280 --> 01:58:59,320
Speaker 3: it is every seven days. For the Pacers, it's every

2501
01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:03,000
Speaker 3: two or three three days. Obviously a little less emphasis

2502
01:59:03,080 --> 01:59:04,880
Speaker 3: on that kind of given how the season has gone

2503
01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:08,040
Speaker 3: to this point and knowing that the solution isn't going

2504
01:59:08,120 --> 01:59:10,400
Speaker 3: to rejoin the team by the end of this season,

2505
01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:12,920
Speaker 3: and so it's more big picture now for the Pacers

2506
01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:15,360
Speaker 3: than dwelling on what happens on a night in, night

2507
01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:17,560
Speaker 3: out basis. In other words, what James is trying to

2508
01:59:17,600 --> 01:59:20,040
Speaker 3: do is say, we should probably mention the Indiana football

2509
01:59:20,080 --> 01:59:22,320
Speaker 3: team at some point in time on the show today,

2510
01:59:22,560 --> 01:59:25,920
Speaker 3: because yes, they are playing in a national quarter final

2511
01:59:26,320 --> 01:59:30,400
Speaker 3: six days from now. And as James is learning plug

2512
01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:33,920
Speaker 3: plug tease as best you can game, you get it right.

2513
01:59:34,160 --> 01:59:38,400
Speaker 3: Ninety three five, There you go with Don Fisher, Buck

2514
01:59:38,480 --> 01:59:42,200
Speaker 3: sor John Herrick, et cetera, live from the Rose Ball

2515
01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:42,920
Speaker 3: in Pasadena.

2516
01:59:43,040 --> 01:59:45,160
Speaker 1: So I want to go there just for a second break.

2517
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:49,040
Speaker 1: As you laid out Don Fisher, you know he's a legend. Yes,

2518
01:59:49,480 --> 01:59:54,800
Speaker 1: how happy are you for him this opportunity? Yeah, I mean,

2519
01:59:55,040 --> 01:59:56,600
Speaker 1: you don't want to make it about yourself as the

2520
01:59:56,640 --> 01:59:59,440
Speaker 1: broadcast or as the play by play guy, but we

2521
01:59:59,600 --> 02:00:01,839
Speaker 1: know he I you through and through.

2522
02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:04,240
Speaker 3: At Fish in his own mind had to have real

2523
02:00:04,320 --> 02:00:07,720
Speaker 3: you know, at some point in time, and probably probably

2524
02:00:07,760 --> 02:00:09,560
Speaker 3: happened during the course of the eighties when when the

2525
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:13,720
Speaker 3: Hoosiers were actually good, and their success in the mid

2526
02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:16,920
Speaker 3: late eighties also coincided a bit of a downturn for

2527
02:00:17,000 --> 02:00:20,040
Speaker 3: Ohio State and Michigan. So you're thinking, all right, Hoosiers

2528
02:00:20,040 --> 02:00:21,880
Speaker 3: are better than both AIA State and Michigan Mike over

2529
02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:24,440
Speaker 3: going to the Rose Bowl and Michigan State beats him

2530
02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:26,280
Speaker 3: and Michigan State ends up being the team that ghost.

2531
02:00:26,360 --> 02:00:29,120
Speaker 3: I think this was the eighty seventh season, and you've

2532
02:00:29,120 --> 02:00:31,520
Speaker 3: got to be thinking after you know, you still make

2533
02:00:31,600 --> 02:00:34,280
Speaker 3: bowl games, and then you kind of slide back towards

2534
02:00:35,000 --> 02:00:38,240
Speaker 3: oblivion in the from the mid nineties on you go

2535
02:00:39,080 --> 02:00:41,120
Speaker 3: as a broadcaster. I don't think I'm ever getting the

2536
02:00:41,200 --> 02:00:43,720
Speaker 3: chance to do a Rose bull Now that's counterbalanced by

2537
02:00:43,720 --> 02:00:47,920
Speaker 3: the fact that Fish has done three national championship games

2538
02:00:47,960 --> 02:00:49,640
Speaker 3: and men's basketball that have won and got to do

2539
02:00:49,680 --> 02:00:54,320
Speaker 3: a fourth in two thousand and two. So life's pretty good. Yeah,

2540
02:00:54,360 --> 02:00:56,560
Speaker 3: when that is the case. But my guess would be

2541
02:00:57,840 --> 02:01:02,080
Speaker 3: until maybe at some point last year you had kind

2542
02:01:02,120 --> 02:01:04,080
Speaker 3: of given up hope on Well, I guess of all

2543
02:01:04,120 --> 02:01:08,320
Speaker 3: the career boxes I get to check, broadcasting, a Rose

2544
02:01:08,400 --> 02:01:12,680
Speaker 3: Bowl is not one of them, because frankly, that was always.

2545
02:01:12,760 --> 02:01:15,360
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say the attainable goal, but that was kind

2546
02:01:15,400 --> 02:01:17,040
Speaker 3: of the first goal as a voice of a Big

2547
02:01:17,080 --> 02:01:18,640
Speaker 3: ten team or a fan of a Big ten team,

2548
02:01:19,000 --> 02:01:22,280
Speaker 3: at some point, I want to see my team play

2549
02:01:22,360 --> 02:01:25,160
Speaker 3: in the Rose Bowl. Now, the Rose Bowl doesn't mean

2550
02:01:25,960 --> 02:01:31,080
Speaker 3: now what it meant then, but it's very fitting that

2551
02:01:31,200 --> 02:01:34,840
Speaker 3: I use first step in this journey of the college

2552
02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:38,440
Speaker 3: football playoff is in Pasadena and is at the Rose

2553
02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:41,160
Speaker 3: bul So you can kind of check that box off

2554
02:01:41,240 --> 02:01:43,640
Speaker 3: that yep, first time in sixty eight years, here's Indiana

2555
02:01:43,680 --> 02:01:44,440
Speaker 3: playing in the rosse ball.

2556
02:01:44,440 --> 02:01:47,520
Speaker 2: It's crazy. And just to think of where they rose from.

2557
02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:49,960
Speaker 2: You all know the story eight years, not sixty eight. Sorry,

2558
02:01:50,000 --> 02:01:52,840
Speaker 2: but I'll do. You know I'm not a matheatician. I

2559
02:01:52,840 --> 02:01:55,280
Speaker 2: wouldn't you know, carry the one on that one.

2560
02:01:55,480 --> 02:01:57,120
Speaker 3: I have that annoying habit of like going to be right.

2561
02:01:57,200 --> 02:01:59,480
Speaker 2: Sorry but no, that's actually a good habit to have

2562
02:01:59,600 --> 02:02:00,360
Speaker 2: here on the radio.

2563
02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:04,400
Speaker 1: But I am honestly, and this is a guy, you know,

2564
02:02:04,680 --> 02:02:08,080
Speaker 1: Indiana transplant once Illinois My school got blown out by IU,

2565
02:02:08,160 --> 02:02:09,120
Speaker 1: as you are reminded me.

2566
02:02:09,320 --> 02:02:11,120
Speaker 3: But your team has made the Rose Bowl a couple

2567
02:02:11,200 --> 02:02:13,840
Speaker 3: of times exactly, but to see them rise up.

2568
02:02:13,880 --> 02:02:17,120
Speaker 1: I mean, how can you not become enamored with this story,

2569
02:02:17,200 --> 02:02:19,160
Speaker 1: especially with the guy who's leading them from from in

2570
02:02:19,240 --> 02:02:19,760
Speaker 1: the mendoza.

2571
02:02:21,440 --> 02:02:24,080
Speaker 2: What I like about him? And I get that he

2572
02:02:24,200 --> 02:02:26,160
Speaker 2: might be like the corny, nerdy guys.

2573
02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:29,520
Speaker 1: We are flipping champs, Yeah, and he described himself as that,

2574
02:02:30,240 --> 02:02:32,040
Speaker 1: but it does seem genuine. I've been around a lot

2575
02:02:32,080 --> 02:02:34,440
Speaker 1: of athletes, you know, at this point in my career, Rake,

2576
02:02:35,120 --> 02:02:39,120
Speaker 1: and it does not seem like a facade with this dude.

2577
02:02:39,200 --> 02:02:43,200
Speaker 1: It seems like he genuinely is, you know, the dorky dude,

2578
02:02:43,240 --> 02:02:45,880
Speaker 1: but also the dog who gets it done in big moment.

2579
02:02:45,960 --> 02:02:50,080
Speaker 3: He's Philip Rivers with legs. He literally should honestly be related.

2580
02:02:50,160 --> 02:02:54,080
Speaker 3: He literally took the Heisman trophy to his Catholic parish

2581
02:02:54,240 --> 02:02:57,600
Speaker 3: back home this week and posed for a picture with

2582
02:02:57,760 --> 02:03:02,120
Speaker 3: all the priests. Again, that's God bless him for doing that. Literally,

2583
02:03:02,760 --> 02:03:05,200
Speaker 3: But that's not normally the celebration shot you see of

2584
02:03:05,240 --> 02:03:06,040
Speaker 3: the Heisman trophy.

2585
02:03:06,200 --> 02:03:07,400
Speaker 2: No, no, no, not at all.

2586
02:03:08,480 --> 02:03:10,320
Speaker 3: He's just a little bit of a different cat, and

2587
02:03:10,440 --> 02:03:13,920
Speaker 3: part of that is to some degree, being late to

2588
02:03:14,000 --> 02:03:17,720
Speaker 3: having great success. I mean, let's pace it. He was

2589
02:03:17,800 --> 02:03:20,440
Speaker 3: in a minute percentage of athletes that are good enough

2590
02:03:20,480 --> 02:03:23,440
Speaker 3: to be Division one quarterbacks. But much like so much

2591
02:03:23,440 --> 02:03:26,280
Speaker 3: of this Indiana roster, he's not a five star kid. No,

2592
02:03:26,400 --> 02:03:28,720
Speaker 3: he was a two or three star kid that just

2593
02:03:28,840 --> 02:03:31,360
Speaker 3: happened to kind of blow up and comes here and

2594
02:03:31,960 --> 02:03:35,040
Speaker 3: it becomes even more so on top of that. Again, folks,

2595
02:03:35,080 --> 02:03:38,240
Speaker 3: if you go back and I forget the name, but

2596
02:03:38,360 --> 02:03:40,840
Speaker 3: there was an Indiana University football player who was drafted

2597
02:03:40,960 --> 02:03:45,360
Speaker 3: number one of the draft in the thirties as a lineman.

2598
02:03:46,040 --> 02:03:48,680
Speaker 3: When the draft was you know, mel Kiper was just

2599
02:03:48,840 --> 02:03:51,760
Speaker 3: early in his days of breaking down draft film, you

2600
02:03:51,840 --> 02:03:55,640
Speaker 3: know back then. I'm kidding about that, but you have

2601
02:03:55,720 --> 02:03:58,360
Speaker 3: to go. But Mendoz's gonna be the number one pick

2602
02:03:58,400 --> 02:04:00,280
Speaker 3: in the draft as well, and right now that is

2603
02:04:00,360 --> 02:04:02,320
Speaker 3: very much secondary to what the results are going to be,

2604
02:04:02,400 --> 02:04:05,919
Speaker 3: hopefully on Thursday. By the way, fire Away.

2605
02:04:06,080 --> 02:04:08,920
Speaker 2: Corbett Davis nineteen thirty eight.

2606
02:04:08,920 --> 02:04:10,600
Speaker 3: Had it on the tip of my tongue, so thank

2607
02:04:10,640 --> 02:04:13,040
Speaker 3: you for figuring for getting that for me from eighty

2608
02:04:13,440 --> 02:04:18,760
Speaker 3: seven years ago. But he's the Highsman Trophy winner. He

2609
02:04:18,760 --> 02:04:21,120
Speaker 3: plays at IU, he's mean. Then everyone pick in the

2610
02:04:21,200 --> 02:04:25,080
Speaker 3: draft and he plays at IU and he and obviously

2611
02:04:25,200 --> 02:04:30,520
Speaker 3: so many others, Kurt Signetti, staff players, et cetera. They're

2612
02:04:30,560 --> 02:04:33,200
Speaker 3: going to play in the Rose Bowl against Alabama and

2613
02:04:33,480 --> 02:04:35,000
Speaker 3: Indiana is the favorite.

2614
02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:37,800
Speaker 2: Just that is also the crazy.

2615
02:04:37,840 --> 02:04:40,720
Speaker 3: Think about that for a second. Yeah, being the favorite

2616
02:04:41,000 --> 02:04:44,000
Speaker 3: that I just said that, that is a factual statement.

2617
02:04:44,120 --> 02:04:48,040
Speaker 3: That is not some sort of wild dream that Indiana

2618
02:04:48,120 --> 02:04:51,960
Speaker 3: is the favorite in the Rose Bowl against Alabama. It's

2619
02:04:52,040 --> 02:04:53,680
Speaker 3: crazy to think about. Crazy.

2620
02:04:54,800 --> 02:04:56,200
Speaker 2: Oh boy, that is.

2621
02:04:56,680 --> 02:04:58,240
Speaker 3: I just hope the story keeps going as long as

2622
02:04:58,280 --> 02:04:58,680
Speaker 3: it possibly.

2623
02:04:58,800 --> 02:05:00,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say we need some positive this year. I

2624
02:05:00,960 --> 02:05:03,600
Speaker 1: have given the state of the Colts right now, where

2625
02:05:03,640 --> 02:05:06,360
Speaker 1: the Pacers were in Game seven before the Achilles tire,

2626
02:05:06,680 --> 02:05:09,040
Speaker 1: where the Fever were a game away from the WNBA

2627
02:05:09,120 --> 02:05:11,560
Speaker 1: Finals without Caitlin Clark, So I feel like I used

2628
02:05:11,600 --> 02:05:13,400
Speaker 1: kind of put the city and in like the state

2629
02:05:13,480 --> 02:05:13,960
Speaker 1: on its back.

2630
02:05:14,040 --> 02:05:16,360
Speaker 3: Right now now, part of me would go, hey, the

2631
02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:19,680
Speaker 3: Pacers were in the NBA Finals and played in Game seven.

2632
02:05:20,400 --> 02:05:23,280
Speaker 3: The Fever have become a thing more so than they

2633
02:05:23,320 --> 02:05:27,320
Speaker 3: ever have in their history courtesy of Caitlin Clark. Colt's

2634
02:05:27,400 --> 02:05:29,280
Speaker 3: been of a different story, but again, we had two

2635
02:05:29,360 --> 02:05:31,240
Speaker 3: great months of the Colts. I tend to be much

2636
02:05:31,280 --> 02:05:33,640
Speaker 3: more of a glasses half full type of person. And

2637
02:05:33,720 --> 02:05:35,680
Speaker 3: I think of twenty twenty five is, yeah, it'll be

2638
02:05:35,800 --> 02:05:37,880
Speaker 3: kind of a year that might have been from a

2639
02:05:37,920 --> 02:05:41,000
Speaker 3: sports standpoint. True, still a pretty damn good year to

2640
02:05:41,120 --> 02:05:43,440
Speaker 3: be a sports fan in Indianapolis. All of the things

2641
02:05:43,480 --> 02:05:45,800
Speaker 3: you got to experience there. There was a lot of

2642
02:05:46,040 --> 02:05:49,200
Speaker 3: winning that took place in twenty twenty five.

2643
02:05:49,400 --> 02:05:50,080
Speaker 2: That is true.

2644
02:05:50,200 --> 02:05:52,120
Speaker 1: So we'll take a short break here and do it

2645
02:05:52,240 --> 02:05:54,320
Speaker 1: one final time. Thank you all sticking with us here

2646
02:05:54,640 --> 02:06:01,680
Speaker 1: on the FAM Morning Show, just hanging out here on

2647
02:06:01,800 --> 02:06:04,840
Speaker 1: this Friday, getting ready for the weekend. Thank you all

2648
02:06:04,880 --> 02:06:07,440
Speaker 1: for tuning into the Fan Morning Show. Of course, I'm

2649
02:06:07,520 --> 02:06:09,800
Speaker 1: James Boyd. You hear me pretty regularly, but you also here,

2650
02:06:09,840 --> 02:06:11,880
Speaker 1: so I think got pretty regularly as well.

2651
02:06:11,960 --> 02:06:16,360
Speaker 3: I shouldn't hang around like a house guess. Baby.

2652
02:06:17,240 --> 02:06:19,360
Speaker 1: We got the other lazy guys sleeping in and maybe

2653
02:06:19,440 --> 02:06:21,760
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowens up. I'm joking, by the way, they got kids.

2654
02:06:21,800 --> 02:06:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're up by now. But we got Caleb Zuber, myself,

2655
02:06:25,320 --> 02:06:28,520
Speaker 1: Greg Regstraw getting this thing done here on this Friday

2656
02:06:28,600 --> 02:06:31,160
Speaker 1: because Mark Dyton is on vacation like he always is.

2657
02:06:32,000 --> 02:06:34,880
Speaker 1: Jeff Rickard's out, Kevin Bowen's out, but you got us.

2658
02:06:35,680 --> 02:06:36,280
Speaker 2: We make it work.

2659
02:06:36,360 --> 02:06:39,680
Speaker 3: Rake. I've been told that Twitter is blowing up. And

2660
02:06:39,800 --> 02:06:41,880
Speaker 3: by a blow up, I mean one nice gentleman said

2661
02:06:41,920 --> 02:06:43,400
Speaker 3: that we paired well together. There you go.

2662
02:06:43,480 --> 02:06:45,440
Speaker 2: I'll take I'll take that one, you know, ignore all

2663
02:06:45,480 --> 02:06:45,960
Speaker 2: the other ones.

2664
02:06:46,120 --> 02:06:51,680
Speaker 3: Could be one thousand listening audience. This morning, look was

2665
02:06:51,720 --> 02:06:55,640
Speaker 3: a pretty quiet place on the way let's say twenty yeah.

2666
02:06:55,680 --> 02:06:57,480
Speaker 1: Man, getting up, I was like, boy, I'm used to,

2667
02:06:57,560 --> 02:06:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, the hustling bustle a little bit when I

2668
02:06:59,680 --> 02:07:01,360
Speaker 1: turned the corner and get down here to get to

2669
02:07:01,440 --> 02:07:04,240
Speaker 1: the studio. But not today, which I can understand. It's

2670
02:07:04,320 --> 02:07:06,040
Speaker 1: around that time of year. We got to some time

2671
02:07:06,080 --> 02:07:06,480
Speaker 1: with family.

2672
02:07:06,560 --> 02:07:08,920
Speaker 3: So I have I have a caffeine addiction, as you

2673
02:07:09,000 --> 02:07:10,440
Speaker 3: well know. So I started up my day at the

2674
02:07:10,440 --> 02:07:13,520
Speaker 3: fifty sixth Illinois Starbucks. Okay, and you know there are

2675
02:07:13,640 --> 02:07:16,320
Speaker 3: various things I'll do early in the morning, and you know,

2676
02:07:16,480 --> 02:07:19,840
Speaker 3: pre select, you know, pre orders. I with my drink

2677
02:07:19,920 --> 02:07:21,880
Speaker 3: is ready when I when I walk in, and I

2678
02:07:22,000 --> 02:07:25,360
Speaker 3: pull up at about six twenty five or so, and

2679
02:07:25,440 --> 02:07:27,000
Speaker 3: I look to the left and the lights around, but

2680
02:07:27,080 --> 02:07:29,080
Speaker 3: there is not a soul that I can see in

2681
02:07:29,080 --> 02:07:31,040
Speaker 3: the restaurant, and that never happens. That place opens like

2682
02:07:31,080 --> 02:07:34,240
Speaker 3: four thirty or five o'clock on most mornings. And I

2683
02:07:34,320 --> 02:07:36,240
Speaker 3: walked in. I go, am I the first person in

2684
02:07:36,280 --> 02:07:40,520
Speaker 3: here today? They go, no, No, you're the second. So yeah,

2685
02:07:40,840 --> 02:07:43,160
Speaker 3: the world is waking up at a slower pace on

2686
02:07:43,240 --> 02:07:46,640
Speaker 3: what is a Friday off for nearly everybody else other

2687
02:07:46,720 --> 02:07:48,080
Speaker 3: than you and me and Caleb.

2688
02:07:48,360 --> 02:07:50,960
Speaker 1: All Right, Well, we can't get out of here before

2689
02:07:51,040 --> 02:07:52,880
Speaker 1: we break down our predictions for the cold game, but

2690
02:07:52,960 --> 02:07:56,520
Speaker 1: also our most exciting game, hardest game to pick, and

2691
02:07:56,600 --> 02:07:57,640
Speaker 1: our easiest game to pick.

2692
02:07:57,680 --> 02:08:01,640
Speaker 2: Caleb, Let's let's lock and load here for the weekend.

2693
02:08:01,760 --> 02:08:06,280
Speaker 1: So I will start with the easiest game to pick,

2694
02:08:07,080 --> 02:08:10,320
Speaker 1: and for me, Caleb, I feel like when it comes

2695
02:08:10,360 --> 02:08:13,360
Speaker 1: to the easiest game, it can't be anything involving the

2696
02:08:13,400 --> 02:08:15,600
Speaker 1: Giants and the Raiders that seems like it's a disaster.

2697
02:08:15,680 --> 02:08:16,800
Speaker 2: I'll get to that game in a minute.

2698
02:08:17,080 --> 02:08:21,240
Speaker 1: But as far as spreads go, I don't necessarily love

2699
02:08:21,440 --> 02:08:24,280
Speaker 1: the Green Bay four and a half over the Ravens

2700
02:08:25,040 --> 02:08:27,480
Speaker 1: just because I feel like that's gonna be a tighter

2701
02:08:27,560 --> 02:08:29,640
Speaker 1: game because you don't know who's gonna be the quarterback

2702
02:08:29,720 --> 02:08:31,320
Speaker 1: right now for Green Bay is gonna be Jordan Love

2703
02:08:31,360 --> 02:08:33,320
Speaker 1: and even if it is, they've been up and down,

2704
02:08:33,400 --> 02:08:35,040
Speaker 1: so I'll go with that. It's probably my easiest game

2705
02:08:35,040 --> 02:08:36,360
Speaker 1: because I don't trust that spread.

2706
02:08:36,560 --> 02:08:40,640
Speaker 4: James, You're not interested in Raiders Giants, which could determine

2707
02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:43,600
Speaker 4: the number one overall pick in the draft, and where

2708
02:08:43,640 --> 02:08:46,320
Speaker 4: Fernando Mendoza might be playing football neck I can't do.

2709
02:08:46,560 --> 02:08:49,760
Speaker 4: Okay for somebody who watched all the NFL games yesterday,

2710
02:08:49,760 --> 02:08:53,120
Speaker 4: I'm surprised that one doesn't intrigue. I think for the

2711
02:08:53,200 --> 02:08:57,720
Speaker 4: easiest game now this it's a three point spread. Pittsburgh's

2712
02:08:57,760 --> 02:09:00,760
Speaker 4: favored at Cleveland. I feel like it's kind of a

2713
02:09:00,840 --> 02:09:04,480
Speaker 4: tricky one because those AFC North games can be challenging.

2714
02:09:05,120 --> 02:09:07,600
Speaker 5: But I just gotta believe that the Steelers will be

2715
02:09:07,640 --> 02:09:09,200
Speaker 5: able to win by more than three.

2716
02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:12,800
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, the answer to your question is the single

2717
02:09:12,920 --> 02:09:16,640
Speaker 3: biggest line of the week, Oh, New England at New

2718
02:09:16,720 --> 02:09:20,840
Speaker 3: York thirteen and a half. New York just got beat

2719
02:09:20,920 --> 02:09:23,640
Speaker 3: by the Saints, who aren't that great. I'm playing a

2720
02:09:23,720 --> 02:09:28,600
Speaker 3: ricket quarterback. The Saints just housed them twenty nine to six.

2721
02:09:29,320 --> 02:09:32,280
Speaker 3: The Patriots have to keep up with the Broncos, who

2722
02:09:32,360 --> 02:09:36,880
Speaker 3: won last night. New England will pulverize the Jets. Okay,

2723
02:09:36,960 --> 02:09:38,840
Speaker 3: and the thirteen and a half, all right.

2724
02:09:38,720 --> 02:09:41,360
Speaker 1: It's eighty Mitchell's Jets has Jeff Ricker and aighty Mitchell's

2725
02:09:41,440 --> 02:09:45,000
Speaker 1: Jets right there. I'll go with the hardest game next

2726
02:09:45,080 --> 02:09:47,280
Speaker 1: on the scales with a pick. Actually was joking about

2727
02:09:47,320 --> 02:09:49,360
Speaker 1: this a few seconds ago, but the Giants Raiders is

2728
02:09:49,400 --> 02:09:51,520
Speaker 1: a hard game to pick. I mean, the Giants are

2729
02:09:51,520 --> 02:09:53,000
Speaker 1: favored about one and a half, but I have no

2730
02:09:53,040 --> 02:09:54,840
Speaker 1: idea who's gonna win that game because both teams are

2731
02:09:54,920 --> 02:09:58,080
Speaker 1: god awful. But as Caleb alluded to, whoever wins that

2732
02:09:58,240 --> 02:10:02,120
Speaker 1: game will then drop in the Tankathon rankings as far

2733
02:10:02,160 --> 02:10:04,320
Speaker 1: as getting number one pick. So if you're a Giants

2734
02:10:04,400 --> 02:10:07,120
Speaker 1: or a Raiders fan, you probably want that team, your

2735
02:10:07,200 --> 02:10:09,520
Speaker 1: team to lose so they can maintain control of the

2736
02:10:09,640 --> 02:10:11,879
Speaker 1: number one pick, and that will be Frienana Mendozo.

2737
02:10:11,960 --> 02:10:15,360
Speaker 4: It's really fascinating that that game's really happening this second

2738
02:10:15,440 --> 02:10:16,560
Speaker 4: to last week in the season.

2739
02:10:16,600 --> 02:10:17,320
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.

2740
02:10:17,920 --> 02:10:22,440
Speaker 4: Okay, Seattle favored by seven points at Carolina. You know

2741
02:10:22,800 --> 02:10:25,680
Speaker 4: that's one of the longest flights, really, Seattle. Anytime they

2742
02:10:25,720 --> 02:10:29,000
Speaker 4: gotta fly to the East Coast, that's interesting one to me.

2743
02:10:29,160 --> 02:10:31,640
Speaker 4: You never know what type of Panthers team you're gonna get.

2744
02:10:32,040 --> 02:10:34,640
Speaker 4: I think them being favored by seven is a lot

2745
02:10:34,760 --> 02:10:37,600
Speaker 4: on the road. It's a one o'clock kick. We'll see

2746
02:10:37,640 --> 02:10:38,080
Speaker 4: what happens.

2747
02:10:38,080 --> 02:10:38,600
Speaker 3: I think that's the.

2748
02:10:38,600 --> 02:10:40,280
Speaker 5: Hardest one for me to kind of figure out.

2749
02:10:40,640 --> 02:10:44,520
Speaker 3: Chicago at San Francisco, it is a three point spread.

2750
02:10:44,520 --> 02:10:47,160
Speaker 3: In other words, they're pick them because the Niners is

2751
02:10:47,200 --> 02:10:50,360
Speaker 3: the home team, are getting the extra points. The Niners

2752
02:10:50,400 --> 02:10:53,120
Speaker 3: coming off a Monday night beat down here in Indianapolis,

2753
02:10:53,560 --> 02:10:56,879
Speaker 3: but again short week, having to fly back across the country,

2754
02:10:57,320 --> 02:10:59,480
Speaker 3: and the Bears just have a habit of making things

2755
02:10:59,720 --> 02:11:04,160
Speaker 3: enterest sting late. They have six wins after trailing with

2756
02:11:04,360 --> 02:11:07,400
Speaker 3: two minutes or less left to go in the game.

2757
02:11:08,280 --> 02:11:10,600
Speaker 3: So I want to watch it. I want to spend

2758
02:11:10,720 --> 02:11:13,520
Speaker 3: no money on that game. Bears Niners.

2759
02:11:13,760 --> 02:11:17,000
Speaker 2: There you go, So most excited game. We'll close it

2760
02:11:17,040 --> 02:11:17,400
Speaker 2: out with that.

2761
02:11:17,920 --> 02:11:19,840
Speaker 1: I do think the game I almost excited for is

2762
02:11:19,920 --> 02:11:21,880
Speaker 1: obviously the one I probably have to cover, being the

2763
02:11:21,960 --> 02:11:27,560
Speaker 1: Colton the Jaguars. But for that to really matter, Chargers Texans.

2764
02:11:28,040 --> 02:11:29,880
Speaker 1: I think both of these are playing great football right now.

2765
02:11:30,280 --> 02:11:32,960
Speaker 1: So from entertainment value, from a stakes value, that's the

2766
02:11:33,000 --> 02:11:33,560
Speaker 1: one I'm picking.

2767
02:11:37,280 --> 02:11:40,000
Speaker 4: So what we'll be saying all weekend, Yeah, I think

2768
02:11:40,080 --> 02:11:42,320
Speaker 4: for most entertaining, I'm gonna go where Greg just went.

2769
02:11:42,400 --> 02:11:45,880
Speaker 4: I think the Niners Bears game is interesting and a

2770
02:11:45,920 --> 02:11:49,160
Speaker 4: little good Sunday night football game there, so I'm excited

2771
02:11:49,200 --> 02:11:49,600
Speaker 4: for that one.

2772
02:11:49,720 --> 02:11:53,560
Speaker 3: Houston and the Chargers. Sorry to be repetitive and redundant. No,

2773
02:11:53,640 --> 02:11:56,320
Speaker 3: you're right though, but for our day job to be

2774
02:11:56,440 --> 02:11:59,800
Speaker 3: relevant on Sunday, we are impacted by what will happen

2775
02:11:59,800 --> 02:12:03,160
Speaker 3: to afternoon at four thirty. So the obvious choice is

2776
02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:04,760
Speaker 3: Texans and Chargers.

2777
02:12:05,080 --> 02:12:07,360
Speaker 1: I will say this, though, there is an Eagles Bills game.

2778
02:12:07,520 --> 02:12:09,240
Speaker 1: I'm my boy, that might be a little nice too.

2779
02:12:09,360 --> 02:12:11,080
Speaker 3: So you kind of wonder though, along with that the

2780
02:12:11,120 --> 02:12:14,440
Speaker 3: Bears and the Niners. Because the NFC playoffs, the seedings

2781
02:12:14,440 --> 02:12:18,840
Speaker 3: aren't set exactly, but the teams other than the Panthers

2782
02:12:19,040 --> 02:12:22,480
Speaker 3: and Buccaneers are set. And by the way, Kebab is

2783
02:12:22,480 --> 02:12:26,120
Speaker 3: at Miami, who completely rolled over against the Bengals last week,

2784
02:12:26,640 --> 02:12:28,960
Speaker 3: and Seattle's been great. They're going to Carolina. Carolina has

2785
02:12:29,000 --> 02:12:33,200
Speaker 3: been a good story. I think they did beat the Rams, right,

2786
02:12:33,440 --> 02:12:37,120
Speaker 3: that's kind of their one quality win. Likely Basically as

2787
02:12:37,160 --> 02:12:40,520
Speaker 3: long as Carolina doesn't win and Tampa Bay loses, then

2788
02:12:40,600 --> 02:12:42,640
Speaker 3: that those two teams play each other next week, and

2789
02:12:42,760 --> 02:12:45,840
Speaker 3: that will be the Sunday Night play your Way in

2790
02:12:46,080 --> 02:12:48,960
Speaker 3: game between those two teams. That'll be the featured game

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Speaker 3: next Sunday Night. So, in terms of actual effecting playoffs,

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Speaker 3: seating those the two games that have the most relevancy.

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Speaker 3: But James, there is a scenario where we go to

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Speaker 3: week eighteen and we know all fourteen playoff teams, which

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Speaker 3: leads me to go, I'm very curious as to what

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Speaker 3: Sunday Night game NBC would take if that If that's

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Speaker 3: the case, that there is a scenario. A handful of

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Speaker 3: years ago they actually passed on a Sunday night football

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Speaker 3: game Boy because it did not have any any relevant matchups.

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Speaker 2: Here's one for the Colts purposes.

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Speaker 1: I'd be curious to know, if they're eliminated before week eighteen,

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Speaker 1: who's starting a quarterback? Because at that point you could

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Speaker 1: go into the argument.

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Speaker 3: Has to be riding Leonard or Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 2: That's a good art.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not so.

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Speaker 2: You say, I know, I know, but I'm not so.

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Speaker 3: There are there are two different questions that were up

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Speaker 3: against the time wise what should they do and what

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Speaker 3: are they going to do? And those don't necessarily have

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Speaker 3: the same answer.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what, boy, well it gets interesting for us.

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Speaker 1: I definitely think that this is a scenario where there

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Speaker 1: is a lot of more dominoes to fall, but at

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Speaker 1: the same time we'll be here to talk about it nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: So well you will be, I won't be.

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Speaker 2: You'll be here as well.

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Speaker 3: Hang around.

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Speaker 1: We will kick you out like the janitor or something exactly.

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Speaker 1: So we will tune in with you all Monday. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening to us, and as always, enjoy the weekend

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Speaker 1: and be safe my friends.