1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: Dead and Hip Hop super Chat mail bag. Look sheit 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: boyfeet for twenty four seven of here with the whole crew. 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: We've been trying to do more than one, but look, 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: we just gonna keep it at one eye and we 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: ain't trying to bite off more than we could chew. 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: Pause that being said, Shout out to Josh Bros. 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: Appreciate you. 8 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: Every Wednesday whenever we have a live, make sure you 9 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: tune in sending those superchats if we can get to 10 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: it during the live perfect. If not, we bookmark them, 11 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: we come back to them and we make contents. So again, 12 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: appreciate everybody sending those superchats. Shout out to Josh Bros. 13 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: Potential video idea analyzing the Goats if the nineties and 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: two thousands and how their catalogs have aged and where 15 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: they're at today. 16 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 2: We're gonna throw people out there, throw people out there, 17 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: and then you know we'll talk about them. Man, I'm 18 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: throwing one eyes here, go ahead. 19 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 3: And I remember I used to like this that when 20 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: it first came out. I listened to this shit like 21 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: about maybe three or four years ago. I was like, man, 22 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 3: this shit probably like three joints on there. I like 23 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 3: Mace hallm World have this conversation, so you agree I 24 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: don't like Okay, Yeah, I listened to Listen the World 25 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: like three years ago. 26 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: I kept hitting the. 27 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 4: Skipped I was like this, that's how it's crazy. 28 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 5: I like that album back then. 29 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. 30 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 6: I don't know. 31 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 5: It was because of the whole like, okay, biggie. 32 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 4: Going, is this next guy up? 33 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 6: I was. 34 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 4: I was hoping for that to. 35 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: Happen, or the player away joint on there b with 36 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: like I said, it's only three joints and I'm like, 37 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: why are you already looking at me? 38 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 4: Was that twenty four hours to Live? 39 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 5: And then the joint probably one of the only one. 40 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: It's like my only one out I still really loved. 41 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: But it was because of everybody the features like cy yeah, yeah, 42 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: it's like. 43 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: One of the few DMX stuff that I like. I 44 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: like him on twenty four hours later. 45 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 4: But yeah, I. 46 00:01:58,760 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 5: Listened to that ship man. 47 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 4: That to me, the album has not aged. 48 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 6: I want to throw disiography out here, a catalog. 49 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: Well cool, j okay, what about how has was he 50 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: held the nineties though? 51 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 7: Oh he said nineties, yeah, because he was a good 52 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 7: two thousands. Well he had Mama said, Knock You Out 53 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 7: in nineteen ninety fourteen Shops at the Dome in nineteen ninety. 54 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: He was singles guy at that point. 55 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 6: He had phenomenon in nineteen ninety seven, which was his 56 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 6: singles won on him. 57 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 4: He was a singles guy. 58 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 6: He's the eighties. He's an eighties. 59 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's an eighties go bro. 60 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 6: He's not a nineteen because. 61 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 3: He was just known for like Mama said, not y'all, 62 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 3: which did come out nineteen ninety was the last before 63 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: he releases one with Q two. That was like the 64 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: last full body of work that was dope that he released. 65 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 4: After that, he had. 66 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 5: The lounging joint like he was a singles guy. 67 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 3: It was his number of singles joint with Boys and 68 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 3: Man like he was yeah, yeah, yeah, singles. 69 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 2: It was. 70 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 3: The album was whack, but he had the one or 71 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: two singles that that was killing the radio. 72 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: Let's thro let's throw this guy, not God but them 73 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: so So I think I think his nineties catalogs have 74 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: aged better than his two thousands. 75 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 5: Outside of his room, Still Madic, I don't know, Still Madic. 76 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 4: So lost tapes a little. I'm not a fan of 77 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 4: Hold You're not a fan of Lost tapes. 78 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 6: I don't say that. 79 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 2: I don't say that. Wait a minute, just like, what 80 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: what's the other one? Untitled? Not a fan of that? 81 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 5: Wait a minute. 82 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: When I go back to that one, that's probably one 83 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: of the ones that's two thousands thousand, still considered two thousand. 84 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: So that's why I'm with you on that, because I 85 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: think we were we were visited and I was just like, 86 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: oh man, this don't hit the same man. 87 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: It never hit from me though. 88 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: Hit from me crazy And I think I said that 89 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: name if you did. But yeah, going back, you need 90 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: to listen to this. 91 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: Aum how you don't like Lost tapes? I'm crazy, You're 92 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: out your mind? 93 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: This is what I with you? 94 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 6: One god Son? 95 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, son, still madic like that was what you want? 96 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 5: That was the three album running a year spam, Bro, 97 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 5: what are you talking about? 98 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: You know somebody I don't feel that their music is 99 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: aged well fifty cent mm really yeah, Like I feel 100 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: obviously the first albums a classic. Marv convinced me on Curtis, 101 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: he commits master. After that, It's like, bro, but those 102 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: only two that he really like, are we really judging 103 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: them like that? 104 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 5: Because he went against he went against Kanye graduation. 105 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: But I feel like the first two is solidified. 106 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,559 Speaker 6: Yeah, but after that, I think that's what he's talking about, 107 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 6: Like over time, I don't think. 108 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,119 Speaker 1: I don't think there was a herald like the first 109 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: two though, but that we never put them doesn't matter though, 110 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: how not, because we're. 111 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 6: Talking about the body of work exactly we're. 112 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: Talking about the topic of conversation is the body of 113 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: work over time, over time. 114 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: He only has two projects that that standard test of time. 115 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: And all I'm saying is that that's that was the case, 116 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: then I feel you it's not even over. So of 117 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: course the ones that we know, we didn't harrow back then, 118 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: while would we harald them. 119 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 7: Now I'm pulling this list from Ranker, so it's the 120 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 7: best rappers of the nineties, and I'm gonna just start 121 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 7: at the top. 122 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 4: Chris. 123 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: Of course. 124 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: We didn't see if they had, like I said, and 125 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: again you go back to those albums, they still still 126 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: don't talk about. Yeah, talk about it, because we could 127 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: say that he's had that still stands the time. 128 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, the common range after death still hells. 129 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 6: It's just so is like us stop like ticker. 130 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 3: The first down down and then he came back still 131 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: he was back up again. Be cut, you said, I 132 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: I did say Warren Peace came out with ninety eight 133 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 3: and then this one came out like a ninety eight 134 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 3: and I think this. 135 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: But again, we were talking about the ones that never 136 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: that we never liked anyway. 137 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: But that's that's the Americans, America waner. We love that. 138 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 4: Yes we still do. They still held up. 139 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about still, but in totality. But 140 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: we're not talking totality. We are where does it say 141 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: totality because they're talking about his catalog catalog the entire discovery. 142 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: We were talking about catalog and age and with those 143 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: in age if we never even put it up. 144 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 7: Sometimes the content that especially with ice cubes, especially one 145 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 7: of those, the content the lyrics that he has have 146 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 7: aged poorly over time. 147 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: The ray I took the question the. 148 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: Ones that we liked back then, how have they aged today? 149 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: We never liked those, so so of course they're going 150 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: to age poorly. 151 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: We never didn't like. 152 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 7: No, But I think there is a conversation we had 153 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 7: about uh like Black Korea and the lyrics and stuff, 154 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 7: because we had a whole video on it. 155 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 6: Those lyrics have aged poorly. Over time. 156 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 7: I feel you I think that you can write it 157 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 7: off as give it a pass for that. 158 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: My point is this, we would not consider these people 159 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: the Goats based off those albums. 160 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 2: We considered in the Goats because of the ones that 161 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: we like. 162 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so we It's like, do those albums still 163 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: hold up? 164 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: Is how I took the question. And I feel like 165 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: you never liked those other albums you want me to like, 166 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: I am. 167 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 7: I'm talking about the one that we like, though, I'm 168 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 7: talking specifically about the one that we like. 169 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 6: Certificates and the lyrical content. 170 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think those are fun, y'all. Don't think those 171 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: for fun? De certificate and all that. 172 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 6: No, no, no, I think the albums are still great. 173 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 7: What I'm saying is that the content on it in 174 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 7: twenty twenty five and twenty five. 175 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, doesn't hold up. It's age poor. 176 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: Because because the timestamp, you think, because of the lyrics 177 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: is timestamp for what was going on. 178 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: But he was talking about revolutionary ship that we still 179 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: go through to day. 180 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 7: I get it, but it's still some very like Pe 181 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 7: racist stuff. Now you mentioned Pe, you know they're not the. 182 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 6: Nineties. 183 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 7: I think it's interesting we were talking about catalogs that 184 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 7: some of the ship that they're saying now back then 185 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 7: was applicable. But anyway, so we already talked about Nasu Tang. 186 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm still listening to Three Chambers only Woo Tange forever. 187 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 4: I can still listen to that ship Man to Cow. 188 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 6: So I'm skipping out the story that conversation. 189 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 4: I got one list. 190 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 7: Just anybody throw out something. I'm just that you're going 191 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 7: through the list. I'm sorry, it's a conversation. 192 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 6: One in there. 193 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 4: Go to the list about say snowbout Snoop. 194 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's. 195 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 6: Going to say about Snoop Dogg style. 196 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: And again the ones that came after that, we never really. 197 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 2: Put him on to Doggs. 198 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 4: He was the singles guy. 199 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, he became a singles guy. Yeah, all right, so 200 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: we were talking a lot of night. I got something 201 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: off the top of the head is Ludacris. 202 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: I have to go back and list because I can't 203 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: say I put on his albums. 204 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 5: It's been a little minute, but Chicken and Beer was 205 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 5: definitely Yeah. 206 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 2: I think I think I think they he got a 207 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 2: lot of back for the first time. 208 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 4: That was the first thing. 209 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: I think, you know what, I can still put on 210 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: them albums. 211 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can still album. There was joints on Red 212 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: Light District that I like the album. 213 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 5: The second one is word of Mouth. That's when I 214 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 5: happened b. 215 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah to me. The first three. 216 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I think you can go. I think you 217 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 6: can probably go to Red Light District. 218 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 2: That's what I said, Like disc got. 219 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 7: Like you're skipping and Negro what was on there is 220 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 7: the game I switched first and ten what's your fantasy? 221 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 6: That's the one that got. 222 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 1: Yeah four eyes, yeah get oh hell yeah, he had 223 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: four I love that he had four eyes on his 224 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: album like that. 225 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: It was dope. 226 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 6: Now. 227 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 7: The one that blew up after that is back for 228 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 7: the first time. That was the one that he was 229 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 7: like out of here. That's when he really loved the 230 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 7: radio station. But then you got word of Mouth, then 231 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 7: you got Chicken the beer red like District. Still, I 232 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 7: think he didn't really this Battle of the setsus even 233 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 7: though he had a big hit from that, I. 234 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 5: Believe, and lu of mine he had theater to mind mind. 235 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 6: But overall, damn, that's a good that's a good call out. 236 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Luda has his age gracefully. You go 237 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 2: back now. I think it is. 238 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: It was a little gimmicky, a little over the top, 239 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: comic book like, but if you just go back, I 240 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: think he's still quality and he's still respected today. 241 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 2: They said where are they today? He's still respected. 242 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 1: He was on Surround Sound and ship like like people 243 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: respect Luda like you know. 244 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 7: So grew up, grew up, was on Release Therapy, but 245 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 7: I think that's when that's yet. 246 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: Release Therapy had a couple of joys like crazy like 247 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: you had you got beat in your car, broke Place, Wait. 248 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 3: One on one, still hit though, one on one, Andsion, 249 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: that's about it to me. 250 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 4: That's the second best out matter team. 251 00:10:52,920 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: On Recession, the President put all yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember. 252 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 5: Not liking TM one O two, but then he came. 253 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 4: Back with Recession. Recession was like, oh yeah, this is this. 254 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 4: He came back, he came back. 255 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: But T one on one it's so classic bro, So I. 256 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 3: Still holds up, Yeah, still holds us still. 257 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: I think that's one of those albums. Bro, forty years 258 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: from now, you play that, you're gonna be motivated to 259 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: do something. 260 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: And I know people that still bump jez So been 261 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: doing stuff. 262 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, people, I've heard people still about the last 263 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: album It wasn't that bad. 264 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 2: It was long as fun, but it wasn't bad. 265 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 6: Man, it must be bored. 266 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: What about t I Man two thousands was good? It 267 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: was solid, I think, I thought, but I started the 268 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: hold up right around pay per Trail. 269 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: That's the last one started trail. But trumble Man was dope, 270 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: like exactly good people like the one he was having 271 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: to bring the social content like what it was like. 272 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: Us like people something. I know people that like that. 273 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 2: Like what I'm saying I think is interesting. 274 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 1: I think we just not tapped in with tall like 275 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: that after a certain point, but people still like it. 276 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 277 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was project or if it 278 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: was just a song, but like dime Trap, whatever project 279 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: that was on, like that was solid because you did 280 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: get a little bit more social political with this stuff. 281 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: But I feel like the first album then an Age Gracefully. 282 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: I'm serious, I'm so serious, and then he had trap music. 283 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 2: Trap music was classic. You don't think serious? I do. 284 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 6: I don't why you think it is dated? It sounds 285 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 6: that and it. 286 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: Just it don't it don't feel writ in twenty twenty five. 287 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: Have you played it recently? I played it after we 288 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: had a conversation about it, because they know I forgot 289 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: what we were talking about. 290 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 4: He was ranking his design and then. 291 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 2: He was ranking a descography. 292 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: Y'all had it at seven the one I had at seven, 293 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: and I knew it was gonna be controversial. 294 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: Was I'm serious? 295 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 4: Because outside of. 296 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 7: If you told me it's not to dated, I might 297 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 7: give you that bro brool, I don't know. 298 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, he got three albums to me. 299 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 5: Trap Music, Urban Urban Legend, and The King. 300 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: Those are the three you said, Kanye, Yeah, Kanye me. 301 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 4: College drop out registration. 302 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 6: Now, now we don't need to talk about the Negro skip. 303 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: But it's kind of I think it's good. 304 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: It's it's like because he said word today and I 305 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: think he's ruined. He's kind of ruining his legacy, is 306 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like I think 307 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: that if he didn't have such a strong out the 308 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: gate showing, he would have been written off. I think 309 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: he lives on the lore of those the late registrations 310 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: of college drop out. The he's living off of that, 311 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: like that is his saving grace with the culture. 312 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: If he didn't have that, it be a rap for him. 313 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 7: So we don't need to mention Eminem because it's often discussed, right, 314 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 7: I just want. 315 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 4: To get on I got you. 316 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 7: Because I know the chat would say, but I think 317 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 7: we've had enough conversation to your point. 318 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 6: In the earlier we documented struggles. 319 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I even. 320 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 5: Said Eminem show as in age well, and I like 321 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 5: that back then. 322 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: It's the only thing I said about it, because I 323 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: think we mentioned it before. I think with the right 324 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: direction producer, he can actually make a solid album. I 325 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: think we were talking about the what what they're doing 326 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: over there at Mass Appeal, Like if he got with 327 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: a group like that, he got a bunch of men around, 328 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: I think he still can. 329 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 4: Producers, still a rappers, rapper, it's still ship like. 330 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 3: He can still rap, especially if you put him in 331 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 3: on next to someone. 332 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: With Is it a problem that's going on with him? 333 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: Like like do you not want to accept any advice? 334 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: I think I think part of the Eminem issue is 335 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: is that like he hit levels of success that literally 336 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: only two or three other hip hop artists and all 337 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: time have touched. So it's kind of like his blueprint 338 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: he thinks that he has to. 339 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: Or because what I feel like if he just sat 340 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: down and just like Okay, y'all. What should I do? 341 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: I think somebody can really give him some guidance on 342 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: how to make a dope ass. 343 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: What's that? What's that? You got issues? 344 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 3: Creative and he got He said he have access to 345 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: so many many people wouldn't want to work with him 346 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 3: and the ship. 347 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: Anybody, Come on, it's crazy. 348 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 5: It's so disappointed when I be hearing this production be 349 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 5: whack his head. 350 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that should be the least of his worries. 351 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: Is the production? 352 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 7: Like what are we talking you, eminem? We need to 353 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 7: talk about that is already documented. 354 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 6: Ship. 355 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: I don't know saving him like Game Game? 356 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 6: Where is Game. 357 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: Got a good run? He did have a good run. 358 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 3: He came out the gate hottest documentary still holds for you, 359 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 3: Doctor Advocate hold for you? 360 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: But then after that it's kind of like hit or miss. 361 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 5: I think Doc Mary two and two point oh, I 362 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 5: mean two point five. 363 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 2: I feel like that. 364 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: And then the one that he did where he redid 365 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: colors what was it called nine? Yeah to me, that 366 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: still holds up. I respect Game man, Yeah, you respect 367 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: Game because I mean he didn't let the fifty Coast 368 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: sign Doctor Drake make him. He made his own way, 369 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: like because he was a lot of people can say 370 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: that ship, like you had some of the biggest names 371 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: in hip hop your first album to catapult. 372 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: You and you just said, all right, well, y'all ain't 373 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: fucking with me. 374 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 4: And he's still made that. They say it's better than documentary. 375 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 6: It's crazy. 376 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: It's crazy what he did in the game. So I 377 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: respect his his path and he me too. You you 378 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: got to give him a lot of credit for stepping 379 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: up to the plate because a lot of people would 380 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 1: have been driven by like the name of doctor dre 381 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: Fitz G Unit at the time exactly, but like he 382 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,719 Speaker 1: met that with like skill and and and and bringing 383 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: the whole coast on on his back, you know what 384 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So yeah, no, I think I think Game 385 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: the albums that we really like have definitely lasted the 386 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: testing hamly going after G Unit, Yeah, like like come on, 387 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: five hundred bars and running. 388 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: And then this ship was stupid. 389 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: He had grit lupa is interesting too, like nas like 390 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: like like like like a fucking like the socks like 391 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: he's going up, he's going down. 392 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: But I think he's solid and absolutely yeah at today. 393 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: Yeah one, And I think the evolution of artists coming 394 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: in as rappers and then transitioning into something else Ludacris 395 00:17:55,359 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: into movies, loop A into Nigga an m I T. 396 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: Professor, What the Professor and still makes the album. 397 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: Exactly off of wrapping off of you know, pen the 398 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: Path type ship. Again, he came in off the Kanye U. 399 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's just like he paid his own way too. 400 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, he stepped up the bat like we heard 401 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 2: about Touch the Sky. 402 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 3: Nigger like who that you can argue like Lupe is 403 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 3: one of the guys that had one of the best 404 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 3: one two punches of album like. 405 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 4: Coming out the Gate. When you think like it's. 406 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, you know, it's not a lot of not 407 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 3: a lot of artists can come out the Gate. 408 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 2: Like the way, like the way. Yeah, she was crazy, 409 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: plays a little fire bro. 410 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: You know somebody that I'm sticking the Midwest because it's 411 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: just how you know where the conversation is going. 412 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: Twist the man. 413 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, he only had one album. He tried. 414 00:18:55,040 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just to hold up one. 415 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 3: He came to Kamakazi in two thousand to slow Jams. 416 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I. 417 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 7: Forget about Kama Kaze. I keep thinking slow on a. 418 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, they both each other out Kazi and overnight celebrity, 419 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 3: but not Kamakazi still goes today, especially the singles. 420 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 2: You said you forget about Kmakzi. 421 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: Wow, I only remember the rush, but man like twist 422 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: his falling off to I definitely thought he would have 423 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: been bigger than what he is. 424 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 7: He's both nineties and two thousands, but yeah, I think 425 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 7: I think his age as well. I think, yeah, absolutely 426 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 7: two misses. One for me, which is the year universal. 427 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 2: I said, what people coming around? Right? No, I went 428 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: back and listened to it. 429 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 7: I'm just saying, I know that's why he sai people 430 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 7: coming around bron. 431 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: Listen to it because I was like, wait, I'm tripping, 432 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: But now he has one of my favorite album songs 433 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: from him on it. 434 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 2: Which one. 435 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: Is the uh hold on, look at this coming guys 436 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: like of twenty four? 437 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, we spent enough time in the Midwest. 438 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: What is the colectric Electric Search That one has a 439 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: that's the one I was talking about. Electric Circuit Circus 440 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: has like one of my favorite on now come close, Yeah, yeah, 441 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: come close to Mary Jay That's one of my favorite 442 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: common songs. But yeah, that that's it. 443 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 6: I was like, what about three six. 444 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 3: Man when the Smoke Clearest ship Man. Yeah, that's just 445 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 3: still the project past. 446 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 4: Six, his first three project path, first three albums. 447 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 3: Bro, they're still still influential to this day culturally. 448 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 4: They solidified. 449 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 3: You ain't even questioning through six because people still relating 450 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 3: they sound today. 451 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 6: All and G because that did that. That that. 452 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: The Bad Boys singles was fine. 453 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 3: It's saying, yeah, we're talking, we're talking about bodies of work, 454 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 3: and I'm with Kim. 455 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 6: It got. 456 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 4: It was kind of like, what do they do? 457 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 7: Man? 458 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 6: So it's it's such a struggle, man, it's rough. It's rough. 459 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 3: They nineties solidified them for me. I feel like the 460 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 3: nineties definitely solidified them. 461 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're good nineties, but two thousands was 462 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: the struggle for the star face. So yeah yeah he 463 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: got certified, Yeah, certified classics, So I can't go wrong 464 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: with that. But look again, Josh Bros Appreciated, definitely a 465 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: fan of the show. Uh, he's been commenting in Live 466 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: Participant for or years now. 467 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 6: And good luck with the Jets. 468 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: Bro. That's all about to say, including that is sports. 469 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: But look make sure you check out everything we do 470 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: that in hip Hop conversation after the conversation is in 471 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 1: a conversation, let us know how you feel about some 472 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: nineties and two thousand artists and where they are today, 473 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: and say put that in there and we'll catch you 474 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: guys next time. 475 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: Were out peace,