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Speaker 1: Why from the heartland and the crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz.

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Speaker 3: Today, and again the hypocrisy has just been unbelievable. You know,

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Speaker 3: suddenly these people who are First Amendment absolutists are the

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Speaker 3: very ones saying let's punish people when they speak their

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Speaker 3: I don't agree with everything that's going on in America.

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Speaker 1: You know what happened to.

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Speaker 3: The Second Amendment absolutists. You actually have Donald Trump, the

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Speaker 3: FBI director, the Treasury Secretary saying basically, over and over again,

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Speaker 3: you can't take legally, you can't have legal possession of

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Speaker 3: a firearm at a rally. That's something that again, if

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Speaker 3: we had said that about all the people with AR

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Speaker 3: fifteen strapped on them going to Michigan Michigan State LECs

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Speaker 3: and people have gone crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think it's a really important just to

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Speaker 4: think about what these athletes said, because it strikes me

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Speaker 4: it's like with the bad Bunny thing, like love be Bunny,

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Speaker 4: is this thing about love over hate.

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Speaker 5: And no, no, no, but this is what happens when

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Speaker 5: you put Molly jong Fast on MS now and you

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Speaker 5: think she's an intellectual And for Joe Scarborough, you have

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Speaker 5: athletes not engaged in a conversation of First.

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Speaker 2: Amendment while they're in Italy.

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Speaker 1: It's a conversation of a guy, a skier by the

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Speaker 1: last name of Hess, saying that he doesn't ski for Americay,

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Speaker 1: skis for his family and friends.

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Speaker 2: You don't know that. That's just wrong.

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Speaker 1: It's not a question of First Amendment. It's a question

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Speaker 1: of what a jerk. We shouldn't notice he's a jerk.

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to be here, Good

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Speaker 1: to be with you. If you don't like the fact

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Speaker 1: that the president put out a post calling him a loser, Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, I could see that. But this skier, Hunter Hess,

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Speaker 1: it's like a I don't think I can represent my country.

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Speaker 1: I have mixed emotions about representing the United States. Do

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Speaker 1: I don't know around just curious about where mixed emotions

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Speaker 1: become full emotions. There are no mixed emotions. You're just

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Speaker 1: a confused, sad, little leftist.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: And if you don't like me saying that, don't take

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Speaker 1: the baits of the question. But you wanted to say it,

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Speaker 1: you wanted to answer like this, and then you are

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Speaker 1: stunned that there is response. You're not allowed to be

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Speaker 1: stunned that there's response. I do this show every day.

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Speaker 1: I do two shows today. There are responses. Some of

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Speaker 1: them are not very nice, and so it goes, I

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Speaker 1: don't owe this guy anything if he's not there. Just

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Speaker 1: because I'm wearing the flag doesn't mean I represent everything

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Speaker 2: What do you What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: If you say that you don't ski for your country,

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Speaker 1: representing them, then you're not representing the United States. That's

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Speaker 1: messed up. That is messed up. I represent the country.

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Speaker 1: We'll keep our issues hours like other countries have their issues.

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled I get to represent the stars and stripes,

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Speaker 1: and honestly, if you don't feel like that, I think

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Speaker 1: the whole thing is just weird. I think it is perfection.

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about perfection. A great nation, yes, Pierre,

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Speaker 1: I can debate it with anybody. Of course, the United

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Speaker 1: States is a great nation, and of course it's greater.

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Speaker 1: What are they going to put up to combat me?

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Speaker 1: Let's go head to head. That is not a question

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Speaker 1: of our own issues. But really, everybody is talking about

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Speaker 1: the bad Bunny stuff with the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Now I saw it, I watched it happen.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't speak Spanish, I'm not fluent, so I

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Speaker 1: don't know what was going on. I've seen transcripts of lyrics.

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Speaker 1: They certainly don't seem very very nice. Did I see

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Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of working, Yeah I did. Did I

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Speaker 1: I would call family friendly. But they had a wedding,

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Speaker 1: which turns out I guess it was a real wedding.

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Speaker 2: Right, great. Cool.

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Speaker 1: Then you had bad Bunny giving his Grammy Award to

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Speaker 1: some kid, and of course the leftist said, oh, that

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Speaker 1: They lie about everything, and it got millions of views,

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Speaker 1: nothing happened to him. Nothing, as far as I know,

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Speaker 1: all the things could have changed. Now, as far as

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Speaker 2: Just happy put a lie out into the world. That's all.

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Speaker 1: That's all that matters to these people. The Bad Bunny

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Speaker 1: it was Okay, everyone's got an opinion? Did I notice

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Speaker 1: Is this is this the grand zenith of Puerto Rican culture? Girls? Twerking,

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Speaker 2: Was that it?

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Speaker 1: Then there was the whole part where he's climbing the

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Speaker 5: What is it?

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Speaker 1: What is the argument here? The argument here that somehow

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Speaker 1: you're being done wrong, as people have noted on social media.

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Speaker 2: What do you what are you? What are we talking

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Speaker 1: Can we talk about the corruption and the problems of

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Speaker 1: thing to discuss. No, well, it was, it was, It

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Speaker 1: was may The presentation was okay. The music is not

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Speaker 2: I didn't think that there were it was a great

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Speaker 1: Camera angles, a lot of movement, and and that's all cool,

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, be artistic, but tell a story.

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Speaker 2: And I once had a and I.

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Speaker 1: Only know this because somebody who I used to speak

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Speaker 2: And I was like, what are you? What are you doing?

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Speaker 2: She was? She was ridiculous. I forget the subject now. Right.

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Speaker 1: Shame on me for even having thinking of having a

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Speaker 1: a Twitter anything with anybody. It's social media. It's just madness.

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Speaker 1: It's not real life. What's real life is that the

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Speaker 1: NFL wants the international audience and they said that absolutely

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Speaker 2: That's it. We're done here. The NFL has made a decision.

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Speaker 1: And that's how bad money was a part of was

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Speaker 1: American dream, absolutely, But if you want to say that

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Speaker 1: I watched the Turning Point USA halftime show, which Accordingary

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you what the guy said, go count the numbers.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather have had the true concert would have been

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Speaker 2: But so what.

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Speaker 1: The people getting angry about this are out of their

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Speaker 1: this is a cultural attack. No I absolutely do understand,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I understand this very well with all due respect.

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Speaker 1: I think other people don't understand this, and they need

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Speaker 1: with the game. The game, by the way, was horrific.

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Speaker 1: The Seattle Seahawks are your Super Bowl champions. They win

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Speaker 1: by a score of twenty nine to thirteen, and.

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Speaker 2: No question.

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Speaker 2: Is all right. That is the way the vast majority

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Speaker 2: This is the everything.

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Speaker 1: It didn't matter what the halftime show was. People still

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Speaker 1: so is turning Point USA. There are different audiences that

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Speaker 1: That's it, and it isn't going to change. The audience

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Speaker 2: They're all still watching that's the story.

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Speaker 1: So I think there's a real market for other halftime performances,

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Speaker 1: whether it's what Turning Point's doing with the Kid Rock concert,

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Speaker 1: of things. People have been doing this, This not cross promotion,

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Speaker 1: This competition a halftime viewership for a long time, for

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Speaker 1: a long time. And I think the point here is

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Speaker 1: is that TPUSA, I think did very very well their

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Speaker 1: YouTube live stream when I saw it was a four

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Speaker 1: point seven million and then it got around six million.

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Speaker 2: Good on them? Is it one hundred and forty million?

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Speaker 1: No, No, it's not not at all. But did six

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Speaker 1: million people say I'd rather watch something else, Well, that's

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Speaker 1: an audience and they can go build that audience. The

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Speaker 1: people want to be negative about it from the beginning.

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Speaker 1: They're the people who want to be negative about everything.

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Speaker 1: They want to destroy. And the people saying that bad

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Speaker 1: Bunny was unifying, there's nothing unifying.

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Speaker 2: It's a lie. Next thing you're gonna tell me.

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris's campaign was filled with joy and vibes.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's full of crap. Everyone is full of crap.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think we have to be those people

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Speaker 1: The NFL knows exactly what they're doing and exactly how

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Speaker 1: they're doing it, one thousand percent, no question.

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Speaker 2: The NFL doesn't care if.

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Speaker 1: The American audience tunes out, because they're not tuning out.

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Speaker 1: And if the next halftime show is I don't know, uh,

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Speaker 1: who's the guy who's married to Gwen Stefani Blake Shelton,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna get a bigger audience.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But those people went to Turning Point aren't gonna tune out.

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Speaker 1: Most of them won't turn out anyway.

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Speaker 2: So that's just it.

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Speaker 1: If there's counterprogramming, go ahead, go let it make dollars.

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Speaker 2: Go go, go reach another audience. It's fine.

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Speaker 1: Leftists is screambatter who cares people on the right's scream

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Speaker 1: about it doesn't matter. The NFL has made its decision.

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Speaker 1: It's not changing and unless you stop watching the game

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Speaker 1: and never, it's never gonna change. And they don't care

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Speaker 1: if you stop watching the game. That's that whole conversation

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Speaker 1: is over. The NFL is doing what it does. It's

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Speaker 1: an international league now, and everybody better just deal with

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Speaker 1: that reality. Stop being so angry about it. It is

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Speaker 1: what it is. You want to do something different on

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. You want to do something different on your Sundays,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, find another sport. You're not gonna have to

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Speaker 1: seen me be angry about it at all. I'm Tony Katz,

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Speaker 1: and this is Tony Katz Today