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Speaker 1: Line from vall Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: The fraud out of Minnesota is bigger than we know.

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Speaker 2: The problem is, it's not just Minnesota, and that's obvious.

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Speaker 2: Washington State, Ohio, your state, where you live. Who's defrauding

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Speaker 2: of the government, who's defrauding medicare?

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Speaker 3: Who is out there claiming.

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Speaker 2: To have a childcare service that services no children, claiming

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Speaker 2: to feed children and they're not feeding anybody. You think

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Speaker 2: they're all Somali nationals? What are we nuts? That's you know,

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Speaker 2: that's crazy talk, right. That doesn't mean it's crazy to

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Speaker 2: talk about the Somali nationals in Minnesota and what it

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Speaker 2: is that they are connected with, which is massive fraud

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Speaker 2: and why and what.

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Speaker 3: Do we do about it?

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Speaker 2: Because the idea that we can't do anything about it

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Speaker 2: because somehow that's racist.

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Speaker 3: Oh to hell with those people, Tony.

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Speaker 2: Kats Tony Katz today, good to be here, Good to

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Speaker 2: be back with you. Took a few days off, spend

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Speaker 2: some time in Vegas. I'll get into that story. But

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Speaker 2: the FBI is now investigating Cash Wottel with the post

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Speaker 2: on social media. He's the FBI director the FBI is

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Speaker 2: aware of recent social media reports of Minnesota. However, even

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Speaker 2: before the public conversation escalated on loaning, the FBI had

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Speaker 2: searched personnel and investigative resources to Minnesota to dismantle large

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Speaker 2: scale fraud schemes exploiting federal programs. Fraud that steals from

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Speaker 2: taxpayers and runs vulnerable children will Maine a top FBI

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Speaker 2: priority in Minnesota and nationwide. The FBI dismantled the two

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million dollar fraud scheme that stole federal

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Speaker 2: food aid and meant for vulnerable children during COVID. This

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Speaker 2: connected defeating our future that original reporting from the City Journal,

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Speaker 2: part of the Manhattansitute.

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Speaker 3: This is massive.

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Speaker 2: And ever growing, and every day there is another story.

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Speaker 2: Every day there is one more thing that is happening

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Speaker 2: that we're learning about. For example, we saw through the

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Speaker 2: reporting of Nick Shirley, and you could tell that it's

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Speaker 2: good reporting because the left is very angry about it,

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Speaker 2: and you're like, hey, Tony, who the heck is Nick Shirley.

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Speaker 2: He's a twenty three year old who puts himself in

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Speaker 2: himself in the middle of it, and he asks questions.

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Speaker 2: And so he met up with a guy who is

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Speaker 2: in Minneapolis and doing all this research, saying, here's what

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Speaker 2: we're being fund And there are no kids here. This

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Speaker 2: daycare center is used to have ninety kids, they got

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Speaker 2: no kids. And this home health center, they're fourteen of

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Speaker 2: these home health businesses, all the same building. I mean,

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Speaker 2: what do they actually do? And they go to the

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Speaker 2: daycare centers and all the windows are blocked out and

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Speaker 2: the doors are locked. And one of them was called

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Speaker 2: the Quality Learning Center, except they spelled learning wrong and

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Speaker 2: it was l E A R I n G. It

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Speaker 2: was the Quality Leering Center. They spelled the name wrong.

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Speaker 2: Spelled the name wrong right there. I just said, spelt

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Speaker 2: like that's and they put it boom right there on

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Speaker 2: the sign. How does the left respond? The left responds

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Speaker 2: by saying, well, you know that place was closed already.

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Speaker 2: If you had done any research, you already know that.

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Speaker 3: How much money did they steal before they closed?

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Speaker 2: Why isn't anybody on the political left interested in the theft?

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Speaker 2: You know, some things don't have to be defended. When

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Speaker 2: Trump come out with an absolutely stupid post about Rob Reiner,

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Speaker 2: the film director who was murdered by his own son.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I say, that's dumb, because when something's dumb,

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Speaker 2: you just say so. When someone is stealing, you don't say, well,

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Speaker 2: I'd love to talk about it, but it might help Trump,

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Speaker 2: so therefore I can't. Therefore I won't. Do you know

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Speaker 2: how much you hate yourself and how much you hate others.

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Speaker 2: As was pointed out by Tom Bevan of at Real

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Speaker 2: Clear Politics, no coverage of the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN,

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Speaker 2: or the Minneapolis Star Tribune about the fraud. And there's

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Speaker 2: Times did run a story. A story is not coverage.

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Speaker 2: It's what you do when you want to say, well,

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Speaker 2: we talked about it, No you didn't. Russia Russia, Russia

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Speaker 3: No one of those people did any reporting.

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Speaker 2: But here's this guy, Nick Shirley, just going from door

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Speaker 3: All the rest.

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Speaker 2: He did the work for you. Why not go out

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Speaker 2: Why can't you do that? No, you can't do that. Instead,

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Speaker 2: what you get is the ridiculous, pathetic Lieutenant Governor of Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: she loves the Somali community.

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Speaker 3: Santhemlikum. My name's Peggy Flanagan.

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Speaker 4: I am the Lieutenant Governor of Minnesota, and I'm really

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Speaker 4: honored and humboled to be here with all of you today.

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Speaker 4: I am incredibly clear that the Somali community is part

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Speaker 2: Let's say it is. She's wearing a hitjob. Now, she's

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Speaker 2: only wearing the headcover. She's not wearing the full the

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Speaker 5: What the hell?

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Speaker 3: What the hell are you doing? But this is Peggy Flannagan.

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Speaker 3: Peggy Flanagan.

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Speaker 2: She does a lot of interesting things, like she wears

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Speaker 2: if you want to do anything to kids, which is

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Speaker 2: weird because when people like Peggy Flannagan get ahold of knives,

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Speaker 2: they mutilate kids. I want to say, for the record,

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Speaker 2: I'm not accusing Peggy Flanagan of the Lieutenant governor of

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Speaker 3: Mutilating a child. I am not, I am not.

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Speaker 2: I am not accusing her of such things. I am

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Speaker 2: them being mutilated. I apologize for nothing. So she's all

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Speaker 2: sorts of tough, she's all sorts of leftist and being

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Speaker 2: the worst in American culture. She puts on the head

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Speaker 2: covering and she says, oslamelek sally WILLI kum.

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Speaker 3: My name's Peggy Flanagain.

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Speaker 2: If you want to know what people like myself worry

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Speaker 2: about when we talk about submitting to other cultures, well

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Speaker 2: here you go. If you are an Islamist, you're like,

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, we are winning because as we have

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Speaker 2: seen from liberal white women like Peggy Flannagan, they will

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Speaker 2: absolutely they will give up their daughters, they will give

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Speaker 3: To show how good and kind they are.

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Speaker 2: Can't you just be like, hey, you can't paint the

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Speaker 2: people who are involved in fraud and crimes. We should

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Speaker 2: absolutely arrest those people and their American citizens. So are

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Speaker 2: I'm in jail and they're not American citizens? Deport them?

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Speaker 2: See how easy that is. It's pretty easy stuff. You

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Speaker 2: care you see you think play acting? You think it's

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Speaker 2: just dress up. It's like all those students at Columbia University.

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Speaker 2: Oh look how oppressed we are, just like the Palacindians.

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Speaker 2: We can't even get water. There's a subway sandwich shop,

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Speaker 2: quite literally in the building that you took over. Wasn't

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Speaker 2: on your Uber Eats app? But no, they play act.

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Speaker 2: They pretend they have nothing wrong in their lives, so

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Speaker 2: in this world. Can't you simply say that the people

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Speaker 2: same categories of people who did something wrong. You have

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Speaker 2: their Islamic ideology. The midterms are November third, And now

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Speaker 2: you know why these elections matter so much, Because they

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Speaker 2: matter plenty because people like Peggy Flanagan think they should

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Speaker 3: That woman's out of her head.

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Speaker 2: She is remarkably stupid and incredibly dangerous. And you don't

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Speaker 2: let your daughters grow up to be like Peggy Flanagan.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not, in no way, shape or form. The fraud

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Speaker 3: It's a trifecta of what's happened to us?

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Speaker 2: What's going on with us? What is the problem with us?

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Speaker 2: What in the world are we supposed to do with

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Speaker 2: this information, with what it is that we're seeing billions

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Speaker 2: those who did the thieving and then have the audacity

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Speaker 3: That leads to this.

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Speaker 2: This is a teenage girl in Minnesota, and and she

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Speaker 3: As described Somonian.

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Speaker 6: And is she.

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Speaker 2: Right here?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll plan for for you. You listen, support.

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Speaker 7: Everyone there because like people deserve to be here, because

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Speaker 7: we should be a leave off when still.

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Speaker 3: Member, we deserve to be here.

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Speaker 2: And people shouldn't be considered we meaning some ores shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be considered illegal because we're on stolen land. Stop sending

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Speaker 2: your kids to public schools, start working on ending the teachers' unions.

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Speaker 2: Run for your school board, break.

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Speaker 3: It in half.

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Speaker 2: End the unions. N Randy Wineingarten's disgusting, despicable hold on

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Speaker 3: She is a danger to our kids. Stolen land.

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Speaker 2: Now you want me to argue with a child that

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Speaker 3: That's not going to work. But she learned that somewhere.

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Speaker 2: She learned that from adults who have been pushing this

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Speaker 2: and it is dangerous and it's still happening.

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Speaker 3: And every single school.

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Speaker 2: College out there that engages some level of of teaching

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Speaker 3: Stolen land. The history of the world is stolen land.

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Speaker 3: What next, It's all stolen land.

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Speaker 2: It's a nonsense, garbage argument of children. That's what a

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Speaker 2: thirteen year old, except for a mainstream media, for example,

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Speaker 2: when they want to push Gretaituneberg.

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Speaker 3: And say, look what you're doing to the environment. How

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Speaker 3: dare you?

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Speaker 2: These things are connecting in ways that are kind of

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Speaker 2: hard to unsee. They're connecting in ways that are just

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Speaker 2: flat out dangerous.

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Speaker 3: And look at the line, well, we can't be illegal.

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Speaker 3: You stole the land.

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Speaker 2: As a child, But the adults who taught here that

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Speaker 2: that adult is stupid, and we should say so, and

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Speaker 2: we should end the teachers' unions, and we should tell

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Speaker 2: them to get other jobs.

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Speaker 3: I don't care if you can pay your mortgage.

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Speaker 2: Look what you're doing to an entire generation, sorry, generations plural.

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Speaker 2: And look at what the left is doing when confronted

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Speaker 2: with horrific fraud, not working to end it, but working

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Speaker 2: to say you're a xenophone, not a xenophone. Anybody involved

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Speaker 2: But it does go deeper, including how can we allow

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Speaker 2: Nah. I think there are a lot of fraudsters in history.

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Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Katz today and.

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Speaker 4: Have to sugest to tilt our meeting between both President

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Speaker 9: don't forget. We went through the Russia Russia Russia hooks

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Speaker 3: Badly, like food.

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats, Tony Kats today, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 3: That's President Trump.

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Speaker 8: But I don't even know if that's welcome.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Zelensky would love to have Trump come to Ukraine,

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Speaker 2: They are morons who can kill you, but they are more.

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Speaker 2: But the story here is that in order to get

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Speaker 3: Admit what happened. And now what does that lead to? Well,

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Speaker 3: that's a that's another story. Keep it here. This is

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Speaker 2: Yes, my dear friends, I'm afraid we do have to

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Speaker 2: talk indeed about Tucker Carlson and Candae Owans. I see

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I hear you.

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Speaker 2: I get it, I get it. But it's going to

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Speaker 2: happen and it's going to happen right about now, Tony Kats,

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats today. Good to be with you.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, just just was in the mood.

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Speaker 2: So that's what I played for you.

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Speaker 3: I have been, I was. I was on vacation last week.

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Speaker 11: I was.

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Speaker 3: I was in Las Vegas, and what I can.

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Speaker 2: Tell you, ish had one of the best meals of

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Speaker 3: Vegas was empty, beyond empty.

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Speaker 2: And when you charge seven dollars for a bottle of water,

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Speaker 2: that's why Vegas, you're out of your damn minds. Better said,

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Speaker 2: just who the hell do you think you are? People

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Speaker 2: your abuse. Seven dollars cups of coffee, ten dollar cups

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Speaker 2: I went over to Italy, it was seven bucks, also

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Speaker 2: seven dollars. You charge the damn fee for the resort fees.

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Speaker 2: You pay a resort fee to access the pool. The

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Speaker 2: deserve all the derision you get. You deserve to hate

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Speaker 3: Is why I love it.

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Speaker 2: I waited for nothing. And to the question of did

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Speaker 2: I tip, yes, I tipped. However, there is a serious,

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Speaker 3: Cup of coffee, and you asked me for a tip,

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Speaker 2: If I buy a bottle of water and the machine

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Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, no no. It's not Starbucks.

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Speaker 2: to Starbucks. Everywhere, everywhere is in this tipping thing, this

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Speaker 3: You're out of your heads.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not tipping for nonsense, don't be silly. I'm

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Speaker 2: the Cosmopolitan for dinner. Momafuku is brilliant, not good, not great,

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Speaker 3: I did go.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was better than I thought it would be.

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Speaker 2: Three of the four places I think I got rather

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Speaker 2: They have to stop with this madness of we'll charge

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Speaker 2: You're ridiculous. And this seven dollars water bull crap.

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Speaker 11: Screw that.

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Speaker 2: You deserve to be hated. And people don't need to

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Speaker 2: go there and gamble because they can gamble well them anywhere.

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Speaker 2: You can gamble anywhere.

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Speaker 3: Now, my god, the.

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Speaker 2: App is on my phone. You think I need you?

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Speaker 2: I gotta sit there next to some ninety year old

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Speaker 13: Oh, this is the stuff. Oh, I hope I get

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Speaker 13: three cherries. I'm gonna pay off my scooter meal.

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Speaker 2: That's nobody needs that. Oh and by the way, you're

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Speaker 2: is wrong with you?

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Speaker 3: What do you think we're there for the pleasure of

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Speaker 3: giving you our dollars?

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Speaker 2: Screw that? What happened to a comp what happened to

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Speaker 2: camp meals, what happened to a camp drink? A comper

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Speaker 2: of a comp anything where is it. Why don't you deliver?

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Speaker 2: We don't need you, none of you're gonna treat us

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Speaker 2: All right, that's Vegas speaking of heads and butts. Tucker

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Speaker 2: Carlson in Candas owns no, no, Yes, Maybe it was

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Speaker 2: a weird, weird, weird thing to see this from Tucker.

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Speaker 2: This was Tucker Carlson doing a podcast with a group

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Speaker 2: called American Conservative.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to play for you the question of what

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Speaker 5: You're saying TPUs A to a poll during ambest or

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Speaker 5: to America, and they did put radical Islam at number one.

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Speaker 5: I'm wondering where you think those sentiments are coming from.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I've heard you say before that this is

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Speaker 3: And can you explain how that operation works?

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Speaker 11: How is it you know, kind of learning.

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Speaker 14: Its many defenders and informal eloyees in the United States,

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Speaker 14: of course, And I guess I would just say if

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Speaker 14: that was actually I mean one hundred fine on the poet.

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Speaker 14: Don't who answered it. But you know, I believe in

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Speaker 14: measuring regality a little more empirically. And you know, I

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Speaker 2: That's just stupid, Tucker, That's just stupid. You can't possibly

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Speaker 2: get pushed back. That is stupid. And I don't think

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Speaker 2: Tucker's stupid, but he clearly wants you to believe him.

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Speaker 2: He wants you to be stupid. You don't know anybody

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Speaker 2: radical Islam. The entire conversation about Islam, this is nothing

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Speaker 2: more than an Israeli sigh up, Tucker, Tucker, bitch, are

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Speaker 2: you crazy?

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Speaker 3: Are you out of your mind?

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Speaker 2: You know that that's not true. You know that the

443
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 2: Islamist is an issue because you used to talk about.

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Speaker 3: It on Fox?

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Speaker 2: Did you forget? Does the Katari money make you blind

446
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 2: to your past? Well, I have no proof that Tucker

447
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 2: is getting all the Katari money. I'm just asking what

448
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: in the world would make you say this? If it's

449
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Speaker 2: not the Katari money, what then answer Jackie Eat say

450
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Speaker 2: I don't know jackieat Chay, no idea who she is.

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Speaker 3: She put out a quick list. She put out a

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Speaker 3: quick list right here.

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Speaker 2: Of well some things that have happened since September eleventh,

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Speaker 2: because that's why Tucker said twenty four years. The Fort

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Speaker 2: Hood shooting in two thousand and nine, the Boston Marathon

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Speaker 2: bombing in twenty thirteen, the San Bernardino attack in twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 2: the Pulse nightclub remember that in Orlando that was twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 2: New York City truck attack which was twenty seventeen, the

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Speaker 2: naval air station of Pensecola, which was twenty nineteen. And

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00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: then we started twenty twenty five New Year's Day with

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Speaker 2: an Islamist who drove his truck through the streets of

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Speaker 2: New Orleans killed twelve twelve people.

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Speaker 3: And then, of course, just a month ago, two National

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Speaker 3: Guard troops were shot.

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Speaker 2: Is Lomist. What the what the hell are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: Islamists are a si op from the Israelis. Do you

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00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: know how dumb you have to be to believe that?

468
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Speaker 2: Do you know how much of a liar you have

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Speaker 2: to be to say that?

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Speaker 3: And even if you were to believe.

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Speaker 2: Something that insane, which history shows us is not the case,

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Speaker 2: if only for from the halls of Montezuma to the

473
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Speaker 2: shores of Tripoli. To say you don't know anybody killed

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Speaker 2: is just an insult on insults. But it's not done

475
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Speaker 2: because Candace Owens wants to play in this game. Candace

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Speaker 2: Owens had a post going back to twenty nineteen, and

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Speaker 2: the post reads, with you, brother, I know she's responding

478
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: to you. Time's up on this nonsense. This country was

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00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: built upon Judeo Christian values. The left routinely mocks Christians,

480
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: defends anti Semitism, and yet demands we all shut up

481
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Speaker 2: about Islam. No, no, one, no, She writes, we are

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Speaker 2: going to talk about it. You can see the date

483
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Speaker 2: right there is March eighteenth, twenty nineteen. What does she

484
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: right on December twenty sixth. December twenty sixth, twenty twenty five,

485
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: she writes, No matter how hard the GOP tries to

486
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: make radical Islam happen, the base doesn't care about it.

487
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Speaker 3: We are way more concerned about Israel.

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Speaker 2: You can deny reality and scream about Tucker, but the

489
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Speaker 2: party can no longer be governed by those who refuse

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Speaker 2: to acknowledge the Zionist elephants in the room. So now

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Speaker 2: you want to again play in the insanity game that

492
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: the discussion regarding Islamists is made up. You think it's deflection.

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Speaker 2: We've been discussing this for years. I've been discussing this

494
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Speaker 2: since I first, as a young man, became aware of

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00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 2: the issue when they threw Leon Klinghoffer off the Achille

496
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: Larro in his freaking wheelchair. I would argue that both

497
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: Tucker and Candace are stupid, but that's not it. But

498
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: are they engaged in something that is radical and gross

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00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: and wrong and ugly?

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Speaker 3: And are they wrong? Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Now we get into the even more fundamental question, how

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Speaker 2: in the world do I engage a coalition to reelect

503
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Speaker 2: Republicans in twenty twenty six in the midterms If they're

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Speaker 2: a part of the coalition.

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Speaker 3: I have got thoughts those are coming up.

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Speaker 2: Keep it here.

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Speaker 3: This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Wall Street journaled with the headline Goodbye gentle parenting, Hello,

509
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Speaker 2: f around and find out. Yes this is good Tony Katz.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz today. Oh, I hope this is true. I

511
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Speaker 2: hope this is true. Parents are ditching the softer approach

512
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Speaker 2: of child hearing that has dominated the culture and taking

513
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Speaker 2: the harder line out feral there, feral. Maybe the problem

514
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: is you let the kids get feral. Actually having this

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Speaker 2: conversation over cigar over the weekend, and one of the

516
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Speaker 2: things that I do want to do is I do

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Speaker 2: want to do more conversation about this. Every parent must

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Speaker 2: start with a basic thesis. Parents are not friends their parents.

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Speaker 2: It's a very different role. And if you're one of

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Speaker 2: these people men or women who are like, oh, my

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Speaker 2: kid is my best friend, you're doing it wrong. You're wrong. Now,

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Speaker 2: who am I to tell people how to parent? Well,

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Speaker 2: I'm not here to tell you. You don't have to

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Speaker 2: listen to me. But parents are not friends. They are parents.

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Speaker 2: It's a different role. Your kid can make friends, but

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00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 2: they only have one mom and they only have one dad.

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Speaker 2: And that's that Tony.

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Speaker 3: You know they can have two dads.

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Speaker 2: Would you please shut up and let me do my job.

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Speaker 2: Being the parent means being direct and being focused. It

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Speaker 2: means explaining things the way they are, not the way

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Speaker 2: that makes the kid feel good. And it's not about

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Speaker 2: being feral or out farrowing the Feroh, it's about knowing

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Speaker 2: when you have to end something.

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Speaker 3: You have to end the madness.

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Speaker 2: Now, there's also a difference of parenting between husbands and wives.

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00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: So how mothers and fathers do things, that's part of

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Speaker 2: what makes it so good. Kids need that. You need

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Speaker 2: what a mom offers, you need what a dad offers.

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Speaker 2: I didn't say it was easy, especially when you're a father,

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Speaker 2: to have to be direct and be like, man, I

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Speaker 2: just crushed them butt or crushed her. But man, they're

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00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: gonna take that rough. But it has to get done

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Speaker 2: sometimes because you're the parents, not the friends. We start

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Speaker 2: there everyone to be better off. Is Tony Kat's gonna.

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Speaker 1: Live from Vaal Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today President Trump to meet with President Zelensky,

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Speaker 1: president Prime Minister.

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Speaker 2: No I met Netan Yahoo. He already met with President Zelenski.

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Speaker 2: Now he's meeting with the Prime Minister Benjamin et Yahoo.

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Speaker 2: First it was Ukraine yesterday at mar Lago, and now

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Speaker 2: it's Israel today, to which it was Marjorie Taylor Green,

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Speaker 2: the congresswoman from Georgia, who said, uh Zelenski, netya, who

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00:36:52,160 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: what happened to America? First Ba Felician, the President of

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00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: the United States shouldn't meet with world leaders. Is this

556
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,479
Speaker 2: your argument? Why don't you just retire already, Marjorie Taylor Green,

557
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: Go get your job over at CNN or at The

558
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Speaker 2: View or wherever the hell you're gonna end up.

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Speaker 3: Just leave you absolutely ridiculous childs. I get it. You're angry.

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00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 3: You wanted to run for Senate.

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Speaker 2: That White House showed you internal polling that said you

562
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Speaker 2: weren't gonna win the Senate, and you're so angry you've.

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00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 3: Decided to burn it all down.

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Speaker 2: And you support Tucker Carlson saying that Islamists aren't an issue.

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Speaker 2: You can't leave fast enough. Man, If I only had

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Speaker 2: control of the space lasers. Tony Katz, did I say

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00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: hello Tony Katz today, guys. Good to be here, Good

568
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Speaker 2: to be with you. Find everything I do over at

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Speaker 2: tonykats dot com.

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Speaker 3: Smoking from La Aurora. This is the Cameroon.

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Speaker 2: I think it's the nineteen oh three.

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Speaker 3: That is what I am smoking today.

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Speaker 2: I do smoke during the show, and I don't apologize

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Speaker 2: for it whatsoever. If it offends some people, I don't

575
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: know what to tell you. There's always claim buck I

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Speaker 2: don't think they smoked during the show, the President is

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Speaker 2: going to meet with Yahoo.

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Speaker 3: Now, there were some people who were thinking.

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Speaker 2: It's a real problem because Netan Yahoo wants Trump to

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Speaker 2: continue the pressure on Iran and go about engaging in

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Speaker 2: another attack to put an end to their any capability

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Speaker 2: they have to anything militarily. A couple things within that,

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Speaker 2: first and foremost, the people who were upset that we

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Speaker 2: took out Iran's nuclear capability.

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Speaker 3: That's a very very odd set of folk.

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Speaker 2: The yes, the Tuckers and Kansases, I assume candas there

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00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 2: the Dave Smiths, et cetera. It is one thing to

588
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: make an argument about policy. It's another thing to make

589
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: an argument about Hey, let's gamble. There's this constant conversation

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Speaker 2: regarding Israel about well, you can't have a conversation about

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Speaker 2: Israel with these people because they'll always tell you how

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Speaker 2: you're an anti semi If you start with the idea

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Speaker 2: of Israel as genocidal, well, first you're daft. You might

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00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 2: as well be a celebrity making a video, and it's

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Speaker 2: you should be called out for it for being an

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Speaker 2: absolute lying fraud, because it's it starts with a real

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Speaker 2: gross failure of the person engaged in the converse.

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Speaker 3: To recognize that war as hell is not just a phrase.

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Speaker 3: It has a real effect on people.

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Speaker 2: The argument of the Dave Smith's of the world is

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Speaker 2: that Israel should not be allowed to engage in any

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Speaker 2: response that in and of itself.

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Speaker 3: Should not be allowed.

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Speaker 2: It's a weird, weird position to take, and it is

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Speaker 2: such a weird position to take that you can't actually

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Speaker 2: point to the place with ease and say where else

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Speaker 2: does that happen? Where else does that take place? Where

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Speaker 2: else does that in any way connect or compute? Hamas

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Speaker 2: are the terrorists? Hamas is the reason anybody in Gaza suffers.

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Speaker 2: Remember when they would call it an open air prison. Well,

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Speaker 2: if Gaza was an open air prison, Hamas was the warden.

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Speaker 2: We all know this.

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Speaker 3: We're past this part of it.

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Speaker 2: If you want to discuss that Israel shouldn't get money

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Speaker 2: from us, okay, okay.

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Speaker 3: Now, this used to be the philosophy of people like

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Speaker 3: for example, Congsman, Thomas Massey.

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Speaker 2: Massi's philosophy has changed, and I have shown issue with

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Speaker 2: that because it has. It's changed aggressively and unnecessarily. You

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Speaker 2: don't think that Israel should get any support, all right,

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Speaker 2: I happen to disagree with that, But I also disagree

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Speaker 2: with the philosophy that support for other nations is a

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Speaker 2: bad thing as opposed to providing US value. Again, this

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Speaker 2: goes back to the conversation of Ukraine and Russia. I

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Speaker 2: said we should from the beginning. I am well, on

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Speaker 2: the record, we should give Ukraine bullets, we should give

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Speaker 2: you Ukraine guns, we should give Ukraine other armaments.

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Speaker 3: But I never flavored and favored a no fly zone.

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Speaker 2: Why because if the United States gets involved in patrolling

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Speaker 2: a no fly zone, and now you have this Russian

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Speaker 2: MiG coming into the no fly zone, how do you

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Speaker 2: get it out of the no fly zone? You have

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Speaker 2: put the United States at war with Russia.

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Speaker 3: I was not there for that. That isn't the place

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Speaker 3: we should have been.

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Speaker 2: But by not being more proactive and now seeing how

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Speaker 2: Ukraine is coming to the table saying okay, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to give up land, We're gonna give up these

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Speaker 2: areas of the dunebas Denet's Klahansk Zapporsia. There's a conversation

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Speaker 2: of a nuclear facility there and Russia saying we've already

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Speaker 2: now won this thing. Now we're only talking about how

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Speaker 2: much land we're gonna get.

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Speaker 3: We want it all, we want it all.

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Speaker 2: We didn't get involved the way maybe we should have

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Speaker 2: gotten involved. We didn't get involved stronger, earlier, tougher. We

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Speaker 2: had these people who say Ukraine's none of our concern

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Speaker 2: and Russia will now get rewarded for its aggression. The

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00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: question before us is where's the value in that Hamas

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Speaker 2: sponsored by the Iranians, the Ayatola murdered twelve hundred people,

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Speaker 2: not all Israelis, and three years later, two years later,

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Speaker 2: two and a half years later, Spain and Canada and

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Speaker 2: the UK and Australia recognize Palestine as a state. They

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Speaker 2: got what they wanted. They got what they wanted, and

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Speaker 2: the immediate response from the anti Israel set when Israel

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Speaker 2: engaged back was look at what terrible thing you're doing.

656
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 2: Don't start nothing, won't be nothing. What happened to this?

657
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 3: What makes the last two and a half years so remarkable?

658
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: Two years let's call it, because there is a quasi

659
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: cease fire piece deal going on. It isn't being honored

660
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: by anybody, perfectly not being honored by the palst Indians

661
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: and a mass and then not being honored by Israel

662
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: because well, Amas isn't honoring the thing, so why in

663
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Speaker 2: the world.

664
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Speaker 3: Should they honor any part of it.

665
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: The argument was was somehow that Israel is supposed to

666
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: just take it, and when Israel didn't take it, that

667
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: reset the mind for a lot of people, like, what's

668
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: happening here? What's going on here? Why isn't Israel doing

669
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 2: exactly what they're supposed to do? Because Israel said, Okay,

670
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: we're done here. We don't care, we don't care. These

671
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: people have to go. We're not living like this anymore.

672
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: The Israeli people changed on a dime, and the leftists

673
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: and pseudo intellectual.

674
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 3: What do you call them when they're not warhawks's at pansies?

675
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: They couldn't figure out what they were supposed to do,

676
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 2: so they engaged in this insanity pressure campaign about genocide,

677
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 2: which of course the only genocidal people is Amas has

678
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 2: Beulah and the Ayatola. End of list, it's not the Israelis.

679
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: But oh, here comes Natanyahu, and nat and Yahoo wants

680
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 2: Trump to start another war with Iran, always wants the

681
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: United States start another war with Iran. What happened to

682
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: the recognition of good guys and bad guys, Where did

683
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 2: that go? We can't state that the Russians are the

684
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: bad guys. We can't state that the Iranians, the Diyatola

685
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: is the bad guy. This story out of the Wall

686
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: Street Journal with the weirdest, weirdest headline about how they're

687
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: loosening social restrictions in Iran, but they're crushing descent.

688
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 3: They're not crushing descent.

689
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: They have executed over eighteen hundred people.

690
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 3: In Iran this year.

691
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: Those are the people that somehow I'm supposed to play

692
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 2: nice with, that I'm supposed to think are somehow decent

693
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 2: and good.

694
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 3: Aren't a threat?

695
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 2: We all out of our heads? Can we not say

696
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: that there are good people and bad people, good actors

697
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 2: and bad actors. I am not saying that anyone is perfect.

698
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that the Israelis don't deserve any level

699
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 2: of derision. They do many things that you could say

700
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: that's wrong or that's wrong, or that's wrong. Taking out terrorists, well,

701
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 2: they're not taking out terrorists. They're bombing poor defenseless Palestindians.

702
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: Did I start or did I not start? With war

703
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: as hell? Can I help you? They hide under the

704
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 2: hospitals and they hide under the schools. Where is the

705
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: argument for hamas is the problem? And since there is

706
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: no arguments for that in any large measure, well we

707
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: see a fundamental flaw. And then you get people like this,

708
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 2: ignorantly said people simping for Israel is a bold move.

709
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 3: This isn't even a conversation about Israel. See, this is

710
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 3: exactly it.

711
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 6: Is.

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00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: You can't just have a conversation about policy. I'm having

713
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 2: a conversation about policy. Up and up. It's simping. Simp

714
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: I g simp too, simp or the act of being

715
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 2: a simple Grown ups understand that there are good actors

716
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: and bad actors. There are worthy allies and they are

717
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 2: unworthy allies. I think Israel is a worthy ally. You

718
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: don't want to send the money. Oh okay, you don't

719
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: want to send the money. The argument somehow they're wrong

720
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: in noticing that Iran is a threat to everyone. They've

721
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 2: executed eighteen hundred of their own people. The Israelis are right.

722
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't we support them in taking out the people

723
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 2: who want to do us harm? Well, they're not doing

724
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 2: us harm because you've got the Tucker Carlson's of the

725
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 2: world and the Candace owans is of the world saying, Oh,

726
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 2: you don't have to worry about the Islamist. The Islamist

727
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 2: isn't the issue. It's just an israelisiop You know that

728
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 2: that's insane.

729
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 8: Of course you do.

730
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 2: The data tells you that. Yet this is what they

731
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 2: put out there, this is how they try and engage it.

732
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Speaker 2: So now we go back to it and ask ourselves

733
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 2: the question. I'm here more than willing to have a

734
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: conversation about Israeli policy, is that what they're having a

735
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 2: conversation about No, they're having a conversation about is saying

736
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 2: that Israel should not be an ally and Israel should

737
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Speaker 2: not exist.

738
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Speaker 3: That's their argument.

739
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 2: That the nations that do the evil should be left alone,

740
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: and the nations having the evil done to them are

741
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 2: the issue.

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00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 3: That's what we're dealing with here, That's what we're seeing here.

743
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 2: I take Israel's side over Iran side every day of

744
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 2: the week and twice on Sunday.

745
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean I agree with everything Israel does.

746
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 2: I take Saudi Arabia side over Iran side every day

747
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: of the week and twice on Sunday, and I don't

748
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: like everything Saudi Arabia does. And I still say that

749
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 2: we didn't treat them the way we needed to. After

750
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 2: September eleventh, I'm still bothered and unforgivable by George Bush

751
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 2: in my view. So Natan Yahoo's in town, and Marjorie

752
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 2: Taylor Green is upset about it. Let her just retire

753
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 2: and go get her job at CNN. You don't have

754
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 2: to agree with everything. I never asked you to agree

755
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: with everything. Certainly, if you don't think that Israel should exist,

756
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: I think that that's gross. It's just weird. You don't

757
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 2: think Israel should be able to fight back and take

758
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 2: out the terrorist threat that is a threat to them

759
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 2: on every part of their border. I think that's messed up.

760
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 2: I think that's to deny reality. I think those people

761
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 2: should be dismissed. But it's weird that Trump would have

762
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 2: a sit down with the Prime Minister of Israel or

763
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 2: the president of Ukraine.

764
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 3: Or any other nation. That that's just weird. Kids, that's

765
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 3: just weird.

766
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Speaker 2: Keep it here. This is Tony Kats today. So the

767
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 2: National Guard gets blocked by the Supreme Court. This is

768
00:51:54,960 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 2: for use in Illinois. It was a six to three

769
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 2: decision to block Trump from deploying the National Guard in Chicago.

770
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 2: I believe this is a mistake. Tony Katz, Tony kats today,

771
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: good to be with you. The fundamental here is whether

772
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 2: or not the president can decide when an emergency is

773
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 2: in place, who gets to make that call of it's

774
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 2: not the president who does who gets to make the decision?

775
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 2: There was a lawsuit. Trump invokes federal law to federalize

776
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 2: about three hundred members of the National Guard and deploy

777
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 2: them to protect federal personnel, federal buildings, property, things like

778
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 2: like that. Trump administration argues that there are protesters obstructing right.

779
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 2: This is actually a good right up from Fox News there.

780
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: They're assaulting and threatening ice officers, and the National Guard

781
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 2: was needed because Illinois would not engage this. They didn't

782
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 2: but local law enforcement on it. So therefore something had

783
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 2: to be done. Illinois goes about saying no, no, no, no,

784
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: no no, no, no, no no. The Trump administration didn't

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00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 2: satisfy and any criteria in the law because it states

786
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 2: the president can only use these reserve forces when he

787
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: was quote unable with the regular forces to execute the

788
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 2: laws of the United States. So what the court, the

789
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 2: Supreme Court ruled what the Supreme Court ruled is that yes,

790
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 2: the lower court decisions will be upheld as things continue

791
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: to move through the courts. What Trump want to do

792
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 2: is say, hey, I still want to be able to

793
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: do this. Let things move through the courts, but I

794
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 2: should still be allowed to do this. The Supreme Court

795
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 2: did not give him this. The unsigned order from the

796
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 2: court orders that regular forces meant the US military, not

797
00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 2: ICE or other civilian law enforcement. So if we're in aged, honestly,

798
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 2: Trump could send in units troops, however you want to

799
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: call it, to deal with any threat to federal building's

800
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 2: federal property, not necessarily ICE, because that is of a

801
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 2: different jurisdiction, a different category. Samuel Alito out there with

802
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 2: the descent saying, what in the bloody heck are we doing.

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00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 2: Whatever one may think about the current administration's enforcement of

804
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,439
Speaker 2: the immigration laws or the way ICE is conducted its operations,

805
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 2: the protection of federal officers from potentially lethal attack should

806
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 2: not be thwarted under the court's interpretation, writes Aledo, National

807
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 2: Guard members could arrest and process aliens who are subject

808
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 2: to deportation, but they would lack statutory authorization to perform

809
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 2: purely protective functions. Our country has traditionally been wary of

810
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: using soldiers as domestic police, but it has been comfortable

811
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 2: with their use for purely protective purposes. His argument is,

812
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 2: we are engaging in something here that can only lead

813
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 2: to danger.

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00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 3: Since when is that our standard?

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00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 2: If asked, I don't like the maths sending out of

816
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 2: National Guard troops across these cities, but dear gosh, I

817
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 2: much rather start seeing some safety and security and why

818
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 2: aren't these other states providing?

819
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Speaker 3: Keep it here? This is Tony kat.

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00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 8: Stiff with Jared Kushner, my whole team.

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Speaker 9: Marco Rubio Pete eggsaid that were all released because of us.

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Speaker 8: None were released in Dividen administration. None. They were all

823
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 8: released because of us.

824
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 9: Then we had a lack of releases with respect to

825
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 9: the dead, and all of a sudden they started coming

826
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 9: back because they said, nope, you said you'll get We

827
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 9: have one wonderful young man whose parents are right now

828
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 9: inside and he's what beautiful parents, a beautiful brother, sister,

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00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 9: and like a beautiful family and they're waiting for the son.

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00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 8: See only one left and we're doing everything we can

831
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 8: to get.

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00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 2: His body back.

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00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 9: And the parents just said, hopefully he's alive, and I said,

834
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Speaker 9: I'd love you to think that way.

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Speaker 3: That's brutal, brutal Tony Kats.

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats today President Trump, a Prime minister of Isoel

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Speaker 2: Benjamin and Yah who answering questions for the press at

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Speaker 2: mar Lago where they've just had a meeting, where Trumps said,

839
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Speaker 2: he listen, if Ran still has nuclear capabilities, we're gonna

840
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,439
Speaker 2: take it out. We're gonna do it immediately. That goes

841
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 2: without saying, without saying, and also trying to get the

842
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 2: body of one hostage back alive dead questions that remain unanswered.

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00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 3: Let's take it back to the question and answer.

844
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Speaker 4: Does the reconstruction of Gaza will begin even before this arm.

845
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 9: I think it's going to begin pretty soon. Yeah, he's

846
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 9: he's looking forward to it. So my look, what a mess,

847
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 9: what a message is and it's been a mess for centuries,

848
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 9: it's been a mess for a look, it's uh seems

849
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 9: to be born for that.

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Speaker 8: But we're gonna we're gonna straighten it out.

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00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 2: And you've got other nations that are involved in that

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00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 2: rebuilding of Gaza, putting money in, having skin in the game,

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00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 2: which was the whole points here. How it's done without

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00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 2: a without Hamas out or disarmed. I'm not sure, truly,

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00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 2: don't have an answer for that. But that's gonna be

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00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 2: for some of these other countries to have to put

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00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 2: pressure on around and on Hamas to end.

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00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 8: You the prinist, what about it? I don't think it

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00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 8: can be better. We just won a big war together.

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00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 9: You know, if we didn't beat Iran, you wouldn't have

861
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 9: had peace in the Middle East because nobody would have

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00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 9: been able. The Arab countries who have been fit fantastic

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00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 9: would not have been able to make a deal if

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Speaker 9: we didn't wipe out their nuclear We wiped it out.

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Speaker 9: If we didn't wipe out with a beautiful beat two bombers,

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Speaker 9: if we didn't add we said, a lot of tomahawks

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Speaker 9: in there also, by the way, from a submarine.

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Speaker 8: And what's the part the institute A pardon?

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Speaker 2: I think you will?

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Speaker 8: How do you not he's a wartime prime minister, who's

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Speaker 8: a hero. How do you not give a part?

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Speaker 9: You know?

873
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Speaker 8: I think it's a very hard thing not to do it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's talking about.

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Speaker 2: Uh who has a lot, a lot, a lot of

876
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Speaker 2: political issues inside Israel, Questions about certain malfeasants in governments,

877
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 2: et cetera. Uh, there's a this has been ongoing for

878
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Speaker 2: net and Yahoo, and Trump has been very public to

879
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Speaker 2: Issa Kurtzok, the presidents of Israel to give him a pardon.

880
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: I think it's an odd thing to ask for. This

881
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 2: is Israeli politics, and I don't want to be involved

882
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 2: in that part of it. Oh listen, I like Netan Yahoo,

883
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 2: but I've also said from the very beginning, net Yahoo

884
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Speaker 2: was prime minister when Israel was attacked.

885
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Speaker 3: This happened on his watch.

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Speaker 2: Now that the war is quote unquote over, I'm amazed

887
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 2: he's still in power. I'm amazed that they haven't called

888
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 2: for a new election yet. I'm actually shocked by it

889
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 2: because I said he's got to go. I'm amazed he's

890
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 2: still there because while the Israelis may appreciate his fight,

891
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 2: I don't think they've forgiven the action. And when you

892
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 2: are the leader, and you're the leader based on safety

893
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Speaker 2: and security and you can't bring it.

894
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 3: Well, that leader oftentimes has to go.

895
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Speaker 7: I know.

896
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 9: All of the bad ones. They sent in some bad people,

897
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 9: and that to me was just terrible. And they send

898
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Speaker 9: in drugs. Now, I will say this, ninety seven percent

899
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Speaker 9: of the drugs coming in by sea stopped. We're trying

900
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Speaker 9: to figure out who the other three percent of it.

901
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 9: They have a hard time getting people to pilot those boats.

902
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 9: But ninety seven percent of the drugs coming in by

903
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 9: the ocean, by the sea, by water are gone. Every

904
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Speaker 9: boat that we take out we save twenty five thousand

905
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 9: lives of Americans.

906
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Speaker 8: Thank you very much, everybody. We'll see you.

907
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 3: That was quick to have a big meeting, and we'll

908
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 3: see you in a couple of.

909
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 8: Hours if you'd like. And if you'd like, you can

910
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,439
Speaker 8: come up and have lunch like you did yesterday. Would

911
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 8: you like that or not? Do you want that?

912
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 9: Because some of the biggest cerebos a bride, but you know,

913
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 9: a bride for twenty five dollars, I don't know.

914
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Speaker 8: If you'd like, you can go, and if you don't,

915
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 8: you can stand in a driveway and melt all right,

916
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 8: But if you want will.

917
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 2: Will you work out of that?

918
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 8: Margo? Is Margo doing a good job?

919
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 2: This is yesterday too.

920
01:00:58,240 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 3: Our only problems.

921
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Speaker 8: He's too nice to you and you're not nice. But

922
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Speaker 8: that's okay, Margot. Take them up and have a beautiful

923
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 8: lunch and we'll see you later.

924
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 6: Straight on.

925
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't.

926
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 2: I don't like it.

927
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 8: It's not good. I heard about this morning, you know,

928
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 8: told me about it. President Putin told me about it

929
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 8: early in the morning. He said he was attacked. It's

930
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 8: no good. It's no good. Don't forget you know, the tomahawks.

931
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Speaker 3: I stopped the tomahawks.

932
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Speaker 9: I didn't want that because we're talking about you know,

933
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 9: it's a delicate period of time.

934
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Speaker 8: This is not the right time.

935
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 2: It's one thing to be offensive, because there's another.

936
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Speaker 8: Thing to attack his house. It's not the right time

937
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 8: to do any of that.

938
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Speaker 3: And I can't do it.

939
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Speaker 8: And I learned about it from President Puttin that I

940
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 8: was very angry about.

941
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Speaker 3: It, answering questions what money, Well, it came out, it

942
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 3: came out.

943
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 2: Well, we'll find out.

944
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 8: I mean, you're saying maybe the addeck didn't take place.

945
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:04,919
Speaker 2: That's possible too, I guess.

946
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 8: But President Putin told me this morning. It did.

947
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 3: Import some strong ladyship the State of Prime Minister.

948
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 8: You've met Paul, President Trump's strongest friend from the State

949
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Speaker 8: of President Trump.

950
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Speaker 6: Such a strong friend is.

951
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 8: One of your goods. I'll say it again and again

952
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 8: and again. You've never had a friend by President Trump

953
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 8: in the White House.

954
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 3: It's not even Ah, that was it?

955
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 6: That was it?

956
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 2: Right there? It ended with that yahoo uh singing the

957
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 2: praises of Trump. What else is he going to do

958
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 2: in in that moment? Uh, the conversation about uh Zelensky

959
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 2: there some bombing of Russia. This is the stuff that

960
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 2: makes Trump absolutely mental. I'm trying to negotiate a peace.

961
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 2: Would you just let me already? All we must want

962
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,479
Speaker 2: to stop the fighting. We want to stop the killing.

963
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 2: Could you stop bombing each other for thirty seconds so

964
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 2: we could dang well get to it already? Is that

965
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 2: too much to ask?

966
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 7: This?

967
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 3: This is Trump's overarching philosophy.

968
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 2: And so the fact that Russia bombs Kiev in such

969
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 2: a way, and then the possibility, because I have not

970
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 2: dug into this, of Ukraine hitting some Russian spots, including

971
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 2: places where Putin may call home or have a house.

972
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 2: Dear lord, dear lord, that's the part that drives him crazy.

973
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Speaker 3: They're still going, Are they still talking? I think they

974
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 3: may still be. Oh, look hold on, wait, let me

975
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 3: doub a double check.

976
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 8: We want to see so talking about it?

977
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 6: Lunch.

978
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 2: So the thing with the lunch is very very funny.

979
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 2: Trump was doing a an event yesterday and mar Lago

980
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 2: with a Zelensky and he says to the reporters, they're like,

981
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 2: they're all sitting at these tables, they're gonna eat. He's like,

982
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 2: do you guys want to eat? Do you guys want lunch?

983
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 2: Is that a writer or are you gonna think that's

984
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 2: a bribe. He's like, hey, Margo, have the chef. Have

985
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 2: the chef just whip it up, boom, get it, get

986
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 2: him done. You know what, how about to get some

987
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 2: McDonald's or something else in there.

988
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 3: We'll get that going.

989
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 2: It'll be absolutely fine.

990
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 3: And he's like, do you want lunch? And one reporters

991
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 3: like yes, please.

992
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 2: So now everybody's getting lunch. That's what that's what that

993
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 2: was all about. It's it's a it's a constant thing

994
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 2: that takes place with him. There's always some other kind

995
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 2: of kind of insanity that that goes forward. The question,

996
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 2: of course, of whether or not Trump is is supportive

997
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 2: of that, yahoo I think is? I think that's that's

998
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 2: an opening shut case he is. But everything with Trump is,

999
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 2: you know, to a point, it's a thousand percent to

1000
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 2: a point. There's only if if if Israel was involved

1001
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 2: in a proactive attack on name a nation. I don't

1002
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 2: think Trump will be down because it's not who he is,

1003
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 2: it's not how he fundamentally works. But there's the the

1004
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 2: the line there that I thought that mattered was if

1005
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 2: Iran has anything nuclear, yes we're going to go in. Yes,

1006
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 2: we're going to engage in that fight. Yes, no question,

1007
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 2: we're going to take that out. We're going to end it.

1008
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 2: That's one heck of a that's one heck of a

1009
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 2: statement right there, that that was said with emphasis, and

1010
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 2: that's gonna drive the pseudo intellectual left crazy. But there

1011
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 2: has to be a recognitions we were discussing earlier, not

1012
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 2: no one's perfect.

1013
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 3: What is this idea of perfect? No nation is perfect?

1014
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 3: The United States is not perfect.

1015
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 2: But if we're going to rate these things, Israel's not

1016
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 2: perfect better than Iran. Now, if you want to argue

1017
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 2: that Iran with the Ayatola is better than Israel, knock

1018
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 2: yourself out. I'll laugh at you. I'll laugh at you.

1019
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 2: Can be friends with South Korea, or we can be

1020
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 2: friends with China. I would rather be friends with everybody,

1021
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 2: but South Korea's got some weird politics, although they have

1022
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 2: a new leader right now, and this woman seems outrageously strong,

1023
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 2: and China is run by a communist party that wants

1024
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 2: to destroy us. What do we rank the things right?

1025
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 3: The things? Who should we be aligned with and who

1026
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 3: should we be dealing with forcefully?

1027
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 2: That's all. That's what grownups do. But if we're not

1028
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 2: going to engage in a grown up style, I got nothing.

1029
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 2: I got nothing for anybody. I'm going to engage like

1030
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 2: a grown up. Ain't nobody perfect, but some people are

1031
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 2: better than other people. That's easy, easily said. Keep it here.

1032
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 3: Much more to get to, including what Trump.

1033
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 2: Did on Christmas Day and why it matters and why

1034
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 2: every Christian needs to be focused on it.

1035
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Kats Today.

1036
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 2: While I was on a vacation, I was very very

1037
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 2: happy to see that President Trump took a very strong

1038
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 2: action against ISIS in Nigeria as they have been engaged

1039
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 2: in the wholesale slaughter of Christians. Tony Katz, Tony Kats Today,

1040
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Speaker 2: Join me. January twenty fourth, Trump one year later, Red

1041
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Speaker 2: Tie Gala, The Highs the Lows, How we.

1042
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Speaker 3: Win the midterms.

1043
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Speaker 2: If you've ever been to one of my events, you

1044
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 2: know they are filled with bourbon and food. And good

1045
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Speaker 2: times and laughs, and I dig in deep, and this

1046
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Speaker 2: is going to be the conversation about how we win

1047
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 2: the midterms, taking a look at Trump's last year and

1048
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 2: finding where the opportunities are, how we go about engaging

1049
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 2: the winning. And there are things there that we can

1050
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 2: use and things there that we have to correct, massive,

1051
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Speaker 2: massive things. So it's going to be an incredible event.

1052
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Speaker 2: tickets dot Tony kots dot com, get your tickets, do

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Speaker 2: it now. The food, the bourbon. There are three different

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Speaker 2: bourbons for everyone to try. Some VIP tickets that are

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Speaker 2: still available. Tickets dot tonicots dot com. Come join me,

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Speaker 2: January twenty fourth, Downtown Indianapolis, the Height Regency. It's going

1058
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Speaker 2: to be a spectacular, spectacular time. Cannot wait to see

1059
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Speaker 2: you there. It's gonna be great. Bring your friends. Tickets

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Speaker 2: to tonycots dot com. Get your tickets right now. Christians

1061
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 2: have been under attack African nations for years at the

1062
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 2: hands of Islamists.

1063
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 3: That's what makes you know.

1064
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 2: As I go back to the discussion from Tucker Carlson

1065
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 2: about Islamists are not a threat and.

1066
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Speaker 11: This is all just a.

1067
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 3: Israeli sigh oup.

1068
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:52,600
Speaker 6: No, it's not.

1069
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 3: It's the reality of history.

1070
01:09:56,800 --> 01:10:00,639
Speaker 2: And as I have discussed from the beginning, we're seeing

1071
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,879
Speaker 2: regarding the attack on Jews leads to the attack on Christians.

1072
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Speaker 2: Of course it does, and every rational person understands this.

1073
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 2: And it's Christians that have to be involved in this

1074
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:17,679
Speaker 2: fight because if Christians don't stand up, it is over

1075
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 2: all over.

1076
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 3: There's no winning.

1077
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,600
Speaker 2: To stand up and say, what is happening here? The

1078
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 2: slaughter of Christians, the attack on Christians, cannot stand. We

1079
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 2: cannot live with this, we cannot allow this sends a

1080
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 2: message that I approve of in every single way, that

1081
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 2: there are people out there who are hell bent on

1082
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Speaker 2: destruction and their desire for a worldwide caliphate, their desire

1083
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Speaker 2: for control, their belief that others must submit or die.

1084
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Speaker 2: And the answer is no, we aren't having this. If

1085
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Speaker 2: one wants to argue that it is xenophobic or bigoted,

1086
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Speaker 2: or what is the term they use, the lie of Islamophobia,

1087
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 2: it's a fear Muslims. No, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: no no no, a recognition that Islamists are dangerous, are

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Speaker 2: interested in the destruction of Western civilization and the destruction

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Speaker 2: of your children.

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Speaker 3: That's not a fear, that's rational thinking.

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Speaker 2: They've proven it, They've shown it, and we should be

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Speaker 2: a society that says no, and the support of Christians,

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Speaker 2: the protection of Christians is necessary, and I was very

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Speaker 2: happy to see Trump do it. Some people are gonna say, see,

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Speaker 2: he's just a war mongrel like everybody else.

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Speaker 3: Well, that ain't true.

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Speaker 2: Protecting Christians, he's good.

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Speaker 3: This is Tony Katz.

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Speaker 1: Today live from vall Hartbeyer and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 1: It's Tony Katz Today. The fraud in Minnesota is very,

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Speaker 1: very real. This issue is massive and turns into billions

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Speaker 1: of dollars. And of course the focus is going to

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Speaker 1: be on Somali smallly nationals, those involved, and whether or

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Speaker 1: not there is a compatibility with Western civilization, something that

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Speaker 1: I've discussed repeatedly.

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony kats today, Good to be here, Good

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Speaker 3: to be with you.

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Speaker 2: But shouldn't we be looking at whether or not other

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Speaker 2: states are engaged in this fraud, even if they don't

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Speaker 2: know it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, shouldn't this be job number one? Hey?

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Speaker 2: If this is happening in Minnesota, could this be happening

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Speaker 2: in other places. To me, that's kind of everything. Governor

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Speaker 2: Mike Brawn joins me right now. He is the governor

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Speaker 2: of Indiana, that is my state, and I saw you

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Speaker 2: you're there on Fox News. Red state governor touts and

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Speaker 2: medicaid savings as Minnesota grapples with widespread fraud allegations. Now,

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Speaker 2: there have been issues here in the state of Indiana

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Speaker 2: with not having the money.

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Speaker 3: There was a we're going to have.

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Speaker 2: A shortfall over here on other budget issues, and that

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Speaker 2: led to attacks on cigars, which you know that I

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Speaker 2: vehemently opposed and thought was all sorts of wrong, sir,

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Speaker 2: And I'll yell about you at you about that later,

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Speaker 2: but let's start with what you're seeing in Minnesota, what

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Speaker 2: it is that has been exposed. What did you do

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Speaker 2: when you first heard this story, and what is the

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Speaker 2: plan to make sure that kind of fraud isn't happening

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Speaker 2: in Indiana, and what should other governors be doing?

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Speaker 6: Well, Tony, it didn't surprise me other than the magnitude

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Speaker 6: of it, and mostly.

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Speaker 11: Because of the six years I spent in the Senate

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Speaker 11: on the Budget Committee.

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Speaker 6: I was on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions, and also

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Speaker 6: the Agent Committee, which did a lot of investigative work

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Speaker 6: about just the kind of stuff you're talking about.

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Speaker 11: I remember, and I did mention it on Fox when like.

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Speaker 6: Just one hundred three percent of all the checks that

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Speaker 6: are written by the federal government or either to the

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Speaker 6: wrong payee or for the wrong amount or both. It

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Speaker 6: is so rampant there, and any state that buys in

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Speaker 6: and wants to scale things like Medicaid, which were intended

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Speaker 6: for the people that really were hurting to find healthcare,

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Speaker 6: couldn't afford insurance, you know, fell into the cracks. It's

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01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 6: been so abused, it's been run so poorly. You can

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Speaker 6: actually see something like that amazed me. A guy like

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Speaker 6: Tim Walls obviously has zero interest in running his agencies efficiently.

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Speaker 6: When I came back to run for governor, it was

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Speaker 6: with that intent, and I think we did that by

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Speaker 6: reorganizing state government. And then we started digging into all

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Speaker 6: of the agencies that even in a state like Indiana,

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01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 6: when you bloated it with all the federal borrowed and

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Speaker 6: spent COVID money, there's sloppiness in there, and we found

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01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:10,640
Speaker 6: already a lot of savings. This is just something of

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Speaker 6: the magnitude it's hard to imagine it's happened.

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Speaker 3: If you were going to describe it, sir, what is it?

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Speaker 2: Is it the standard operating procedure of government to not

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Speaker 2: run properly, or you spent years in the private sector

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Speaker 2: building your business in a place called Jasper, Indiana in

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Speaker 2: the world of automotive parts, things like that.

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Speaker 3: Is this in your view? Was this proactive?

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01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 2: Is this in your view proactive fraud or is this

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Speaker 2: just what happens in government?

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Speaker 6: So it was proactive fraud by the fraudsters. But due

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01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 6: to the fact that the government, and here's the main

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Speaker 6: difference between the real world, there's no competition. Your revenues

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01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,560
Speaker 6: are given into you. So the people that run it,

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Speaker 6: Tony have generally pivoted into.

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Speaker 11: Politics right out of law school.

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Speaker 6: And they are the ones that have never had an

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Speaker 6: interest in how you manage things, how you get the

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Speaker 6: best results from it. Obviously, it's a broken healthcare system.

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Speaker 6: I described private healthcare as an unregulated utility. I fixed

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Speaker 6: that in my own business seventeen years ago. That's a

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Speaker 6: whole nother discussion. But when you have money that is

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Speaker 6: so easily accessed, especially the spendings free that occurred through

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Speaker 6: COVID in the Biden administration doing the Cares Act was

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01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 6: bad enough because that was an overreaction, But then all

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Speaker 6: of this is a result of they want the benefits,

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01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 6: they have zero interest in managing it, and then it's

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Speaker 6: a fertile field for this. This amazed me because Minnesota

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Speaker 6: is I think a smaller state than we are.

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Speaker 11: Run blue like ill no I, California.

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Speaker 6: In New York, you know, mimicking the federal government the

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Speaker 6: amount of fraud and waste that eyewitness in six years

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Speaker 6: and could get no interest. On the other side, I mean,

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Speaker 6: it's their growth business, and they worship it like a cathedral,

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Speaker 6: and they run it in a way that is going

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Speaker 6: to probably run it into the ditch. And we're seeing

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Speaker 6: those results, you know, on a bigger scale, two trillion

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Speaker 6: dollar deficits annually, but we're virtually now.

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Speaker 2: It's by the way, population Minnesota is five point eight

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Speaker 2: million via online check. Talking to the governor of Indiana,

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Speaker 2: Mike Brown, former senator from Indiana, I want to go

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Speaker 2: back to really this fundamental here, because no one should

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Speaker 2: think that this is happening just in Minnesota. If there

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Speaker 2: are those within state governments who come out of law

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Speaker 2: schools utilizing your words. The ideology is built in, so

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Speaker 2: therefore they're looking the other way takes place. I often

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Speaker 2: argue that at what we see from socialism is not

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01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 2: a bug, it's a feature. When you put bad people

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Speaker 2: in the wrong position, they'll look the other way, they'll

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Speaker 2: allow the bad things to take place. And that seems

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Speaker 2: to be a lot of what happened here in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: How do you ensure you talk about digging into state

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Speaker 2: government here in Indiana, and this is a conversation about

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Speaker 2: other states as well, how do you make sure what

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Speaker 2: actions have you taken in the state of Indiana and

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Speaker 2: what actions do you think governors should take to be

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Speaker 2: looking into this exact issue about waste, fraud and serious

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Speaker 2: abuse with medicare Medicaid.

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Speaker 6: So there's a lot of low hanging fruit when we

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Speaker 6: got here and over and especially through the COVID period.

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Speaker 6: In the last decade, Indiana's medicaid spending increased by one

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Speaker 6: hundred and thirty five percent. That's probably average. They lured

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Speaker 6: you in with paying for most of it. When stuff

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Speaker 6: is nearly free and you're lured in by it, that

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Speaker 6: doesn't mean it's going to be well. And you're not

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Speaker 6: going to find stuff. Here's what we found out of

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Speaker 6: the gate. We found over ten thousand people I think

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Speaker 6: the figure was in Indiana that should have been on

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Speaker 6: medicare not on Medicaid. They didn't even get switched over

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Speaker 6: at the appropriate time that would have eliminated that burden

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Speaker 6: very simple. We found that they were double dipping in

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Speaker 6: some cases where you had people actually getting Medicaid benefits

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Speaker 6: out of multiple states.

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Speaker 11: We had a very renowned program that people moved.

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Speaker 6: Into the state for ABA therapy, which treats autistic children,

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Speaker 6: but we were like advertising it and then we let

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Speaker 6: benefits go way beyond sustainability. We pulled all that stuff

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Speaker 6: back and as a result, we're going to be spending

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Speaker 6: roughly twelve percent less. We're going to focus on the

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Speaker 6: people that need it, and we're just getting started because

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Speaker 6: that's such a big program that we're going to find

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Speaker 6: more as we go. A and I was surprised, even

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Speaker 6: in a state like ours that is relatively well run

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Speaker 6: compared to blue states, can't imagine how things got off

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01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 6: the wagon during COVID. We're bringing it all back on

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Speaker 6: and we're going to be saving a ton of money

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Speaker 6: well over the next.

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Speaker 3: Several years talking to the Governor of Indiana, Mike Braun.

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Speaker 2: This is the same conversation in terms of how you

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Speaker 2: deal with the response and the reaction that Democrats are

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01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 2: trying to push upon Republicans. As we come to the

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Speaker 2: end of the year, there is no extension of those

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Speaker 2: Obamacare subsidies that Democrats have voted in. They voted to

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Speaker 2: have expired the end of this year, end of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five. And you're going to hear, well, you're raising

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Speaker 2: healthcare costs on the American people. And when you talk

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Speaker 2: about reining in certain levels of this spending, when you

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Speaker 2: talk about how we're going to eliminate some levels of

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Speaker 2: waste and take a look and make some cuts, what

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01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 2: you're going to hear is, Okay, here you are, Governor

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Speaker 2: Mike Braun, allowing children to starve or allowing elderly not

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Speaker 2: to get care. How do you respond to that? How

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Speaker 2: do you think others should.

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Speaker 11: So when it comes to that and their.

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Speaker 6: Unbelievable attempt to take over the affordability issue, and you know,

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Speaker 6: Biden gave us twenty two to twenty three percent over

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Speaker 6: those last three years, I think that is something that.

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Speaker 11: We got to get better at we're flat footed on it.

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Speaker 6: But when it comes to this full idea of Democrats

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Speaker 6: having any interest in running government more efficiently.

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Speaker 11: It's just not there.

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Speaker 3: They, for instance, on.

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Speaker 6: Healthcare, have never been interested in tackling pharma, big hospitals, insurance.

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Speaker 6: That's what I did in my own business seventeen years ago,

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Speaker 6: became the insurance company because the margin was so thick,

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Speaker 6: and then based it on wellness and prevention Tony, not

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Speaker 6: expensive remediation.

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Speaker 11: Dems don't care.

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Speaker 6: They just want more of it without ever getting to

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Speaker 6: the bottom of it. I'm going to try some of

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Speaker 6: those things here in our own state employee plan to

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Speaker 6: make sure there's some skin in the game so you're

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Speaker 6: not constantly defaulting to having no interest in what the

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01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 6: cost is. Having some skin in the game, it can

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Speaker 6: be fixed. But when you're just willing to borrow and

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Speaker 6: spend more money because you're only worried about the benefits,

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Speaker 6: that is where you hit the ditch hard. That's why

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Speaker 6: you have two trillion dollars in now structural deficits, a

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Speaker 6: lot of it related to healthcare.

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Speaker 2: But I'm going to go.

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Speaker 3: Back just a little bitump.

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Speaker 2: Here's Governor Tim Walls, the former vice presidential candidate. And

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Speaker 2: you can imagine how little of a fan I was

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Speaker 2: of him as a vice presidential candidate in never mind.

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Speaker 3: As a governor, this fraud has been taking place.

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Speaker 2: He is touting giving more and more money to people

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Speaker 2: here illegally, people who can't afford this, people who can't

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Speaker 2: afford that. You're seeing more and more and more people

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Speaker 2: that Minnesota wants to take care of. You see the

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Speaker 2: abuse that has.

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Speaker 3: Taken place, possibly into the billions of dollars.

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Speaker 2: And there's a real question, Although there's some reports that

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Speaker 2: some payments have been stopped and some internal investigations have

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Speaker 2: taken place, what kind of real investigation, what kind of

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Speaker 2: real stoppage of these plans is going to happen because politically,

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Speaker 2: people are going to say, well, it's just a political

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Speaker 2: right attacking Somali's. So two questions. First, what is there

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Speaker 2: a specific plan in the state of Indiana that you

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Speaker 2: think other red state governors should implement into looking into

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01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 2: ensuring that this fraud of fake childcare centers or fake

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01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 2: home health care centers, et cetera isn't happening. And what

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Speaker 2: do you believe should be the pressure put on governor

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Speaker 2: Walls regarding dealing with the criminal activity that has taken place,

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Speaker 2: possibly with the wink in the nod. And when I

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Speaker 2: say possibly, I mean for me personally, very probably with

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Speaker 2: the wink in the nod of the political left in

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Speaker 2: the state of Minnesota.

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Speaker 6: So his main issue is, even though the Democrats really

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Speaker 6: don't worry about any of this we've been talking about

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Speaker 6: until they're in a corner, Senator Ron Johnson is going

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Speaker 6: to do subpoenas to get to the bottom of it.

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Speaker 6: You're going to have guys like Rick Scott from Florida

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Speaker 6: who turned a purple blue state that was in the

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Speaker 6: red financially ten twelve years ago into something that works,

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01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 6: costs half of what it costs in New York. They're

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Speaker 6: not going to get by with this. This reached such

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01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 6: a profile and Pim Walls. I don't know if he

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Speaker 6: survives or not. That's up to Minnesota's but they want

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01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 6: to be kind of the poster child for what government

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01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 6: looks like when it's abused and doesn't work, emblematic of

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Speaker 6: many of the blue states.

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Speaker 11: The federal government, for sure.

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Speaker 6: Some of that issue is with Republicans that have not

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Speaker 6: held firm on fiscal responsibility, the appropriators and the neo

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Speaker 6: cons there. I've talked about that before. You're not going

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Speaker 6: to get by with it because they're going to come

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01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 6: at you. It gets worse for him. This doesn't go away.

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Speaker 6: In states like ours, we're doing eligibility checks. We're making

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Speaker 6: sure if you're on Medicaid, you just don't stay on

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01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 6: it without someone checking in every three months to see

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01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 6: if something has changed. Three forty B pharmacy scam where

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Speaker 6: pharmacies can get actually very very low costs if you're

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Speaker 6: on it and then you jack it up and take

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01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 6: full markup. You know, the pharmacide's got a lot of

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Speaker 6: abuse in it. Do a pretty good job making the pill,

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01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 6: but PBMs and stuff like three forty B have got

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Speaker 6: to go, and there's no transparency on any of this stuff.

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Speaker 6: That's all going to be on steroids here in Indiana,

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01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 6: I think in other red states and in blue states

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Speaker 6: if they don't want to be in the laughingstock category

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01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 6: of what Minnesota is currently in.

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Speaker 2: Before I let you go, Governor Mike Brown of India

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Speaker 2: and mentioning at PBM's pharmacy benefit managers, there's a really

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Speaker 2: deep detailed conversation and that we'll do that another time

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Speaker 2: before I let you go. Redistricting fails in the state

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Speaker 2: of Indiana. I was in favor of redistracting, and I've

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Speaker 2: argued so you know, I never lie to you, I

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01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 2: don't lie to anybody. I think with this was poorly

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Speaker 2: rolled out from the beginning. I think this was something

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01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 2: that should have had much more clarity and much more focus,

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Speaker 2: and I don't believe that it was there. Then there

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Speaker 2: was the conversation of people being primary to that maybe

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Speaker 2: not being primaried. What do you believe is the resultant

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Speaker 2: of not passing redistricting in the state of Indiana. Are

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Speaker 2: we about to see a state that fails to do

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Speaker 2: what the president wants lose federal funding?

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Speaker 11: Don't think so.

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Speaker 6: My relationship, the state's relationship with the administration prior to

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Speaker 6: that was, if not the best, one of the best

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Speaker 6: in the country. I think when leadership decided to die

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Speaker 6: on that hill, when eighty percent of Republicans and conservatives

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Speaker 6: not to mention our congressional delegation, not to mention every

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Speaker 6: other state even if they didn't want to do it,

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Speaker 6: and who knows how it all works through the courts,

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Speaker 6: I think that was you know, putting your thumb in

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Speaker 6: the face of the administration. Most Republicans and Conservatives in

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Speaker 6: the state. I think that'll be something for the Senate leadership,

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Speaker 6: especially to figure out.

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Speaker 11: How that plays out.

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Speaker 6: And all I can tell you is when I came in,

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01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 6: they give you Senate Bill one, which was supposed to

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Speaker 6: be some significant property tax reform, gutted it completely.

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Speaker 11: We did call back, mostly through the.

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Speaker 6: House's efforts to give reasonable reform, not what many of

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01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 6: us wanted, but it's indicative they threw.

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Speaker 11: Cold water on healthcare reform. All that got watered down.

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01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 11: It was like pulling teeth to get with.

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Speaker 6: Them on doing anything that was going to distinguish as

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Speaker 6: as the state, This to me was a little bit

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Speaker 6: similar to that. We'll still get stuff done.

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Speaker 11: The low hanging fruit will.

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Speaker 6: Pick reorganized state government. We're running it so much more efficiently.

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Speaker 6: I want to end with this. On my end, we

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01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:20,560
Speaker 6: just got tauted as the strongest economy in the Midwest

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Speaker 6: GDP growing at twice the rate of Illinois and Ohio,

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Speaker 6: three times Kentucky, six times that of Michigan, and already

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Speaker 6: on the IEDC. We're incentivizing jobs, spending one third what

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Speaker 6: the prior administration did, and we're getting wages raised from

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Speaker 6: thirty six.

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Speaker 11: To forty one bucks.

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01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:45,440
Speaker 6: Kind of all under the radar, shaping up our state agencies,

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Speaker 6: doing what I can through the executive branch.

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Speaker 11: I'd ask the Senate to be a little bit more.

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Speaker 6: Energized forthcoming on policy stuff, healthcare, all.

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Speaker 11: The things we've been talking about.

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Speaker 2: That is a pivot from what happened to the redistricting

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01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:03,760
Speaker 2: to look how much we're paying people. Sir, that was

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01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 2: that was professionally done, but we're gonna I don't think

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Speaker 2: we're done with the redistricting conversation by longshot Governor Mike Brown,

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Speaker 2: the governor of Indiana. I appreciate you taking the time

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Speaker 2: to be whether that's more coming up. I'm Tony Katz.

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01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 2: This is Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 10: You know, I have no problem with doing don't anticipate it.

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01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 10: Would like to get the deal done and not necessarily

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01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 10: have to go. I've offered to go and speak to

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01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 10: their parliament, and you know, if that would help. I

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01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 10: don't know that would help. I think it would probably help,

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01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 10: but I don't even know if that's so welcome. Yeah, no,

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01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 10: I know, so I'm not sure that it would be

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Speaker 10: really necessary. But if it would help save twenty five

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Speaker 10: thousand lives.

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Speaker 8: A month, or whatever it may be, I would certainly

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Speaker 8: be willing to do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they want you in Ukraine, mister President. What else

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01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 2: was vatimers Lensky gonna say? He shows up tomorrow a

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01:29:56,560 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 2: logo on Sunday, and once again we're talking thinking about

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01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:03,599
Speaker 2: the possibility of peace. The difference here, if we're going

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01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 2: to argue there is one, is that Zelenski knows he's

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01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 2: given up land. This is over Tony Katz, Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 2: Good to be here, Good to be with you, good

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01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 2: to be back. Everybody find everything at Tony kats dot com.

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01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 2: He's giving up land. The issue is is that what

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01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:23,600
Speaker 2: the Russians have decided is that the Americans are not

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01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 2: gonna come to their aid. Europe is not going to

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01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:29,680
Speaker 2: put troops on the ground. We want everything, and we're

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01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 2: not gonna stop killing these people until we get everything.

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01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 2: And since you won't fight us, we're gonna keep killing

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01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 2: these people until we get everything. That's what's happening. That's

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01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:42,719
Speaker 2: the Russian calculus. But all this talk from President Trump,

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01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 2: you know, Putin is very sympathetic to Ukrainians and wants

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01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 2: the Ukrainians to do well. Just stop it.

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01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 3: It's just silly, it's nonsense. We don't need to hear it.

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01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:57,440
Speaker 2: If those platitudes work, you know in the private conversations,

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01:30:57,520 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 2: do them.

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01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 3: But you make yourself look silly.

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01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:05,760
Speaker 2: When you engage those things. Mister President, again, we're talking

1441
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 2: about a piece deal. Listen, I don't know what's going

1442
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 2: to happen. I don't know what's going to happen. Ukraine

1443
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 2: must realize that they are out of options because they're

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01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 2: accepting of a whole bunch of things.

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01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:19,679
Speaker 3: Where that final border.

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01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 2: Is gonna be wherever it is. The Russians will want

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01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 2: another two feet because that's the Russian way. So no,

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01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 2: this ain't over. Meanwhile, Russia continues to bomb, bombing directly

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01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 2: on Kiev, and this goes on, and Russia's getting rewarded

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01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:38,600
Speaker 2: for the attack, and we need to discuss what that

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01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:40,760
Speaker 2: means for the future and keep it here. This is

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01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:50,519
Speaker 2: Tony kats today. Dear Lord, did the Wall Street Journal

1453
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 2: butcher this Tony Katz. Tony Katz today got three more

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01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 2: things for you. Stories nobody else is talking about, and

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01:31:57,520 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 2: that I think have to be in the mix. It

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01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:02,519
Speaker 2: was the Wall Street Journal, which look, sometimes they do

1457
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 2: the job. Sometimes they say, hey, look here's Trump drawing

1458
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:09,560
Speaker 2: a picture to Jeffrey Epstein that's meant to look like

1459
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 2: a naked woman.

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01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 3: Stop it.

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01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 2: You all sound crazy, crazy, the desire, the desperation to

1462
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 2: tie Trump to Epstein. Of course, trumpk neew Epstein. Of

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01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 2: course there's photos of him. There's no proof Trump was

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01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:27,480
Speaker 2: on the island. There's no proof Trump did anything inappropriate

1465
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 2: with anybody underage. And it very much doesn't seem like

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01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 2: his style in the slightest. But if you hate Trump,

1467
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 2: all you're gonna scream is Trump pedophile. I mean, you're

1468
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 2: downplaying what happened because you hate Trump so much you

1469
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:44,639
Speaker 2: can't get out of your own way. As we often discuss,

1470
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,839
Speaker 2: guys hate rots of the brain. These people are broken,

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01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:49,519
Speaker 2: and if you want to see broken, just check out

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01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:50,959
Speaker 2: my social media feed anytime.

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01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 3: They hate the vitriol. Now we're just.

1474
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 2: Into the hey, we want you dead. One of the

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01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 2: big ones is meet Ashley Babbit like that is sincerely

1476
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 2: messed up. And you gotta wonder whether they're saying I

1477
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 2: hope you die or I want to kill you, because

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01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:11,120
Speaker 2: that's what's now coming my way.

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01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 3: Now, what are you gonna do? Stop?

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01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 11: No, no, no, no, no, no no.

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01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 6: I'm here.

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01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 2: We're in this together.

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01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 3: We're not stopping for anything. These people are dangerous, though

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01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:24,000
Speaker 3: I'm fully aware of them. But this is where the

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01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:25,719
Speaker 3: Wall Street Journal missed greatly.

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01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:31,920
Speaker 2: The headline is, Iran eases social rules amid crises, but

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01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:39,240
Speaker 2: crushes descent. Iran eases social rules. What possibly is this

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01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 2: about women not wearing hit jobs. Well, there have been

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01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 2: lots of moments where women are trying to fight back

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01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 2: against the repressive regime of the Ayatola, of the mulla Is,

1491
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:53,400
Speaker 2: the hardliners of the clerics, and saying we're not gonna

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01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 2: wear this, We're not gonna wear that.

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01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 3: Those women often get killed. But when you read the headline.

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01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 2: Iran eases social rules amid crises, but crushes descent, it

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01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:06,720
Speaker 2: would make you think, Okay, they're not paying attention so

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01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 2: much to these things that they used to regarding religious fundamentalism.

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01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 3: But if there is a protest, they put an end

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01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:14,799
Speaker 3: to the protest.

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Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, no no no no.

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Speaker 3: Let's go into the story right first paragraph.

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01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 2: Live music is blaring.

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01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:25,719
Speaker 3: On the streets of Tehran.

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01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:28,639
Speaker 2: Women are ditching their mandatory hit jobs, and young people

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01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 2: are dancing in cafes as authorities allow a degree of

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01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 2: social freedom, freedom not seen since the Islamic Revolution of

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01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine the second paragraph. At the same time, however,

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01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:45,080
Speaker 2: the government is carrying out a widespread crackdown on dissonance

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01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:48,599
Speaker 2: and has executed more people this year than in nearly

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01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 2: four decades. Oh, that's what you mean by crushes descent. Hey,

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01:34:56,360 --> 01:35:00,439
Speaker 2: they're dancing in the cafes when they're not being killed.

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01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 2: The number of executions as reported carried out in Iran

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01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 2: surging to over eighteen hundred and seventy people executed in

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01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:13,720
Speaker 2: Iran twenty twenty five, twice as many as last year.

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01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, last year they executed nine hundred people.

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01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 3: And we were like, hey, way to slow it down. Guys,

1516
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 3: who in the hell would ever be on the side

1517
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:27,560
Speaker 3: of the Iranians?

1518
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 2: Israel's your probably because it's always, of course bringing it

1519
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 2: back to Israel. Look who they are, Look at what

1520
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:38,680
Speaker 2: they do. Why in the hell would you want to

1521
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 2: live with these people, coexist with these people. I read

1522
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 2: this story and I'm like, you know what, who's got

1523
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 2: a point? These people cannot be reasoned with or dealt with.

1524
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 2: This entire regime has to go. Make Iran Persia again,

1525
01:35:57,080 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 2: a story no one is talking about. By the way, Tehran,

1526
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 2: which is the capital of Iran, running out of water.

1527
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:08,679
Speaker 2: Power shortages are happening everywhere. Economic crisis because of the inflation,

1528
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:14,479
Speaker 2: the the what do you call the sanctions and everything else. Yeah, yeah,

1529
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:16,880
Speaker 2: So what's the answer. We'll let the people dance a

1530
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:20,120
Speaker 2: little bit and they won't notice their life sucks. The

1531
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 2: issue is is that Persians or Ananians have always noticed

1532
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:23,679
Speaker 2: that their life sucks.

1533
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 3: They just can't do anything about it.

1534
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 2: They need some help, and just like you know, it's

1535
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 2: just it's the Ukraine conversation all over again.

1536
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 3: Do we want to be the people who help? And

1537
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 3: how do we want to help?

1538
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:34,840
Speaker 6: That's it.

1539
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:38,720
Speaker 2: These are the only questions. And if we don't, what

1540
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:42,840
Speaker 2: happens if somebody else does? Which is I mean gonna

1541
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:44,879
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get yelled at for Tony, are you promoting

1542
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 2: a neo con foreign policy coming back? And I'm gonna

1543
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 2: say the answer is, I don't know if I'm promoting it.

1544
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:55,760
Speaker 2: I am asking now that we haven't done it, like

1545
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 2: for example, in Ukraine, what is the result and do

1546
01:36:59,600 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 2: we like it?

1547
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:03,680
Speaker 3: If we don't do it in Iran, what is the

1548
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 3: result and will we like it?

1549
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:10,160
Speaker 2: So the people who just you know, crap all over

1550
01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:13,360
Speaker 2: the neok thing, Okay, yeah, yeah, sure, great, fine, But

1551
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:17,839
Speaker 2: now now we see the result of not being involved

1552
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:19,680
Speaker 2: this way or that way or the other way, are

1553
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 2: we good.

1554
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:20,880
Speaker 3: Or not good with it?

1555
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 2: I think that's isn't that logical? It wouldn't that be

1556
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 2: part of the testing. We didn't do it this way,

1557
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 2: we did it the other way.

1558
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:27,840
Speaker 11: We didn't do it.

1559
01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:30,679
Speaker 2: You know, it's like Gabe testing. I'm not even sure

1560
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 2: if that's the best example. We didn't do it this way,

1561
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:36,640
Speaker 2: we did it another way. Now doing it the other

1562
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 2: way it didn't work out better for us, And it's

1563
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:43,559
Speaker 2: a rational question to ask. In Los Angeles, Los Angeles

1564
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 2: Times reporting that the authors of the fire report from

1565
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:52,080
Speaker 2: the LAFD about the Palisades fire, you know, the one

1566
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:54,880
Speaker 2: that took all the homes, that California does not allow

1567
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:57,679
Speaker 2: us to be rebuilt. They're not allowing any rebuilding in California.

1568
01:37:57,720 --> 01:38:01,799
Speaker 2: These people are awful Avenuesom is a low life. Karen

1569
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:04,439
Speaker 2: Bass is a lowlife. They're not going to allow these

1570
01:38:04,479 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 2: people to rebuild. No, no, no, no, no, you lose

1571
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:13,280
Speaker 2: your place for forever. Sorry, sucker, your land is not yours.

1572
01:38:14,479 --> 01:38:16,960
Speaker 2: And of course they allowed the fire to happen, they

1573
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 2: allowed the fire to grow. They weren't They didn't have

1574
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:22,519
Speaker 2: anybody in place who could actually do anything that had

1575
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:26,720
Speaker 2: an inept fire leadership. That was hired much more on

1576
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:29,640
Speaker 2: DEI than they were on anything else. Oh, people are

1577
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:33,240
Speaker 2: gonna yell at me. How dare you sorry? It's just factual,

1578
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:39,639
Speaker 2: it's factual. You hired incompetent people. The same thing happened

1579
01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:45,599
Speaker 2: in Hawaii for Leahina. Yeah, high, you hire incompetence because

1580
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:48,800
Speaker 2: you hire a progressive code and not to merit, and

1581
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:55,200
Speaker 2: you will get garbage proving that this DEI, this wokeness,

1582
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:59,639
Speaker 2: it's it's the the The terrible outcome is not a bug,

1583
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:04,160
Speaker 2: it's a feature. It's the only thing that can come. Well,

1584
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 2: the people were professionals, did a report and they were

1585
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:10,720
Speaker 2: like a lot of people to blame a lot of

1586
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 2: things to blame in these fires that killed twelve people,

1587
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:18,719
Speaker 2: the thousands of homes destroyed, and what happened. The authors

1588
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:20,880
Speaker 2: are now saying, yeah, we can't be a part of

1589
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:26,880
Speaker 2: this Battalion Chief Kenneth Cook, emailing the fire chief and

1590
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 2: other LAFD officials, saying, having reviewed the revised version submitted

1591
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 2: by your office, I must respectfully decline to endorse it.

1592
01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:39,440
Speaker 2: In its current form. The document has undergone substantial modifications.

1593
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:42,840
Speaker 2: It contained significant deletions of information that, in some instances

1594
01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:51,680
Speaker 2: alter the conclusions originally presented. Translation, here's the report leadership

1595
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 2: of everything that went wrong in the Palisades fires, and

1596
01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 2: who is to blame? And the leadership said, oh, well,

1597
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:00,920
Speaker 2: we can't blame the these people. Oh we can't blame

1598
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:01,880
Speaker 2: those people. Oh no, we're good.

1599
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:02,439
Speaker 3: Called racist.

1600
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:04,360
Speaker 2: Oh no, we're good called sexist. Oh no, we'll get sued.

1601
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:08,160
Speaker 2: Let's uh, let's just chage the whole report around and

1602
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:11,880
Speaker 2: basically the thrust of the report will be oopsie, and

1603
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:12,519
Speaker 2: that'll be it.

1604
01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:15,360
Speaker 3: They watered you.

1605
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 2: You have seen this so many times and in so

1606
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:21,440
Speaker 2: many ways and in so many places, you're not even surprised.

1607
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:26,080
Speaker 2: They're so blatant and bold about it. They rewrote the

1608
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 2: report the after action review. They rewrote it. And so

1609
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:37,599
Speaker 2: Ken Cook, who's the battalion chief who is the author

1610
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,519
Speaker 2: of the reporter, said yeah, I can't endorse this.

1611
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:42,439
Speaker 11: No no no, no no no, no, no no no.

1612
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:47,400
Speaker 2: I strongly urge you, he wrote, to reconsider publishing the

1613
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 2: report as it stands. I recommend that we reconvene with

1614
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:54,080
Speaker 2: the City Attorney's office to review their notes and collaboratively

1615
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:58,760
Speaker 2: collaboratively finalize the version of that holds both accuracy and professionalism.

1616
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:02,920
Speaker 2: Last as the liaison to the Governor's process, which is

1617
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:07,640
Speaker 2: independently compiling the same information, I am concerned that substantial

1618
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 2: disparities may exist between the two reports. The Governor's report

1619
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:13,680
Speaker 2: is currently in the publishing phase and is expected to

1620
01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:17,920
Speaker 2: be released later this month. I recommend utilizing that report

1621
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 2: as a reference, as it will provide an objective and

1622
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 2: unbiased accounts. Translation, guys, I did this over here too,

1623
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:29,080
Speaker 2: and they're gonna publish the report and you're gonna look

1624
01:41:29,160 --> 01:41:32,479
Speaker 2: like total morons. Don't look like morons, and don't make

1625
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:34,560
Speaker 2: me look like a moron. I'm not gonna sign on

1626
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:40,280
Speaker 2: to that. How much does the left hate you? In

1627
01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 2: every way? They will lie to you anyway they can

1628
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 2: to somehow keep power.

1629
01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 3: They will lie.

1630
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:53,479
Speaker 2: They will blame the fires on Trump, They'll blame the

1631
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:57,200
Speaker 2: fires on white men. They'll blame the fires.

1632
01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:59,400
Speaker 3: On the environment. They're gonna do all the things.

1633
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:02,479
Speaker 2: By the way, did you just say, Tony, they're going

1634
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 2: to blame the fires.

1635
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 11: On white men.

1636
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:06,599
Speaker 8: Really?

1637
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're absolutely one thousand percent gonna blame the fires

1638
01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:12,680
Speaker 2: on white men.

1639
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:14,080
Speaker 3: I hate old white men.

1640
01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 2: See I was done doing it right there. No one

1641
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:19,840
Speaker 2: is shocked, you know what it is. I mean, they're

1642
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 2: just going to blame anything except their own incompetence, their

1643
01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:23,000
Speaker 2: own failures.

1644
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:23,800
Speaker 3: No one's going to.

1645
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:29,639
Speaker 2: Take responsibility, no one. It will all be someone else's fault.

1646
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 2: These people are just terrible. And then there's Scott Beson

1647
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:41,280
Speaker 2: not terrible, and Scott Bessen is now telling everybody get

1648
01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 2: ready for the giants refund that is coming your way.

1649
01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 12: Oh, working Americans. I also had the honor of being

1650
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 12: the IRS Commissioner, and I can see that we're going

1651
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:57,800
Speaker 12: to have a gigantic refund here in the first quarter

1652
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:02,240
Speaker 12: because no one changed They're working Americans do not change

1653
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:06,840
Speaker 12: their withholding. So I think households could see, depending on

1654
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 12: the number of workers one thousand and two thousand dollars refunds,

1655
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:14,519
Speaker 12: they will change their withholding schedule at the beginning of

1656
01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:18,439
Speaker 12: the year, and they will get an automatic increase in

1657
01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:21,080
Speaker 12: real wages. So I think that's going to be a

1658
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:24,639
Speaker 12: very I think that's going to be a very powerful

1659
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:28,560
Speaker 12: combo of corporate and individuals.

1660
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:34,000
Speaker 2: Now, I hope that's the case. But what Besent is

1661
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:37,559
Speaker 2: doing is exactly what we said to do. You've got

1662
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:40,960
Speaker 2: to start discussing, Hey, the economy is getting better. Hey

1663
01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:43,519
Speaker 2: we've done this. Hey we're doing that. Hey we're about

1664
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 2: to do this. And when the new year comes and

1665
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:48,880
Speaker 2: when this happens, here's what you'll see. And when that happens,

1666
01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 2: here's what you'll see. And when this you got to

1667
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 2: get people in the fight with you. You got to

1668
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:56,559
Speaker 2: get them excited about what's coming. Here's what we've done.

1669
01:43:56,680 --> 01:44:01,360
Speaker 2: Here's why it matters. You got to sell it Withn't

1670
01:44:01,400 --> 01:44:04,120
Speaker 2: that exactly what we said? And I said it to

1671
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:08,519
Speaker 2: Sean Spicer, and then Steve Bannon played it for Scott

1672
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:12,200
Speaker 2: Besson called me a stock Republican because I said, I'm

1673
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:14,280
Speaker 2: not putting this on the consultant class. I'm putting it

1674
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:18,320
Speaker 2: on Bessent. Hell, yes, putting it on the whole damn administration.

1675
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:21,680
Speaker 2: Some consultant said, don't do X, Y or Z or

1676
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:24,240
Speaker 2: say a B and c Why would you listen to

1677
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 2: a consultant. You're Scott Besont. You don't have to listen

1678
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:28,600
Speaker 2: to anybody.

1679
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:29,920
Speaker 3: You know what you're doing.

1680
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:34,439
Speaker 2: You're a crazy bright dude. So go out there and

1681
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:38,120
Speaker 2: sell and engage the messaging. And the president is doing this.

1682
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:40,720
Speaker 3: Now. I would love to say, you know, I take

1683
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:41,200
Speaker 3: credit for that.

1684
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 2: And if I had, if I had that kind of ego,

1685
01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 2: I'd be like, yeah, I did that, I made that happen.

1686
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:51,920
Speaker 2: I'll buy myself. I don't think that's the case. I

1687
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:54,479
Speaker 2: just don't think I have that kind of ego. But

1688
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:59,080
Speaker 2: did we say it? We absolutely said it, So we'll

1689
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:03,040
Speaker 2: take the craw. That's right, I threw you in. Now

1690
01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:08,439
Speaker 2: you have to suffer. This is the right kind of stuff. Now,

1691
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 2: of course there's another side to this. You have to

1692
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:19,240
Speaker 2: deliver gigantic tax refunds. Well, let's see it. Let's see

1693
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:23,200
Speaker 2: it for the middle class. Does the middle class? And

1694
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:25,439
Speaker 2: by the way, what do we think is giant? Now

1695
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:29,200
Speaker 2: he's referring to a gigantic tax refund year overall, But

1696
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:31,080
Speaker 2: I want to know, I don't know what the average

1697
01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:34,080
Speaker 2: refund is for a family making let's call it one

1698
01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:39,559
Speaker 2: hundred thousand a year. What's the average refund and does

1699
01:45:39,600 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 2: it double? If it was three hundred dollars, is it's

1700
01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:44,040
Speaker 2: six hundred dollars, if it was one thousand dollars, two

1701
01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:46,040
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. The numbers he's kind of throwing out there

1702
01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:48,559
Speaker 2: because if it's a thousand to two thousand dollars, people

1703
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:53,599
Speaker 2: will say, hot, damn. They will they will say that's great,

1704
01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 2: extra thousand bucks. Yeah, that'll get people to say, well,

1705
01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 2: I guess we can afford that couch. Now, I guess

1706
01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:02,720
Speaker 2: we can pay for part of this though it's not

1707
01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:04,720
Speaker 2: all the money in the world, but enough to get

1708
01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:09,120
Speaker 2: people talking. Those are three more things you needed to

1709
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:12,240
Speaker 2: hear about news stories that are not getting enough coverage.

1710
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:12,680
Speaker 3: Keep it here.

1711
01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:15,599
Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Kats Today. Find everything

1712
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 2: at Tony katz dot com.

1713
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:22,759
Speaker 7: Heard that md too this a step to really stop

1714
01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:27,759
Speaker 7: feeding the kids in the middle of pandemic. My office

1715
01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:28,519
Speaker 7: had to do something.

1716
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:31,639
Speaker 15: In the video, Osmond tells the room how he arranged

1717
01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:34,600
Speaker 15: a call with the MDE Commissioner about their attempts to

1718
01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:35,960
Speaker 15: stop new meal sites.

1719
01:46:36,160 --> 01:46:38,479
Speaker 7: But I'm one of those people that push back and

1720
01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:42,080
Speaker 7: call it what it is, which is rasist tactics.

1721
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:46,680
Speaker 2: I told her, now, that's Jamal Osman, who is a

1722
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:51,800
Speaker 2: member of the Minneapolis Minneapolis A City Council. And he

1723
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:54,560
Speaker 2: was there screaming back in the day that if you

1724
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:58,879
Speaker 2: stop the funding to these sites, well that's just racism.

1725
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:05,040
Speaker 2: It was him and his wife who were involved in

1726
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 2: parts of this scam.

1727
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Speaker 15: On Osmon and Amba signed over control of a different

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01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:14,799
Speaker 15: dormant nonprofit they found it together, called Stigma Free. Ozmon

1729
01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:17,599
Speaker 15: writing to its new board quote, I have seen growth

1730
01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:20,200
Speaker 15: during the time that I've served, and I'm confident you

1731
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:23,799
Speaker 15: will continue to grow this amazing organization in my absence.

1732
01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:26,400
Speaker 15: The men who took over Stigma Free are charged with

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01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:29,439
Speaker 15: using it immediately to wrack up more than thirteen million

1734
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:31,920
Speaker 15: dollars in meal fraud across the state.

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01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:36,760
Speaker 2: The amount of people connected to this fraud stealing from

1736
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:40,000
Speaker 2: medicare stealing from the people in Minnesota, and the Democrats

1737
01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:41,960
Speaker 2: who looked the other way because they didn't want to

1738
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 2: be called racist by a Somali member of the Minneapolis

1739
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:50,400
Speaker 2: City Council. And again, there are people who are connected

1740
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:52,920
Speaker 2: to this who aren't Samali. So we deal with the

1741
01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:56,240
Speaker 2: people who are engaged in the criminality but the criminality

1742
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:59,840
Speaker 2: was everywhere, and this scandal is growing and it is

1743
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:05,400
Speaker 2: just in Minnesota. Find everything at Tony kats dot com tomorrow, everyone,

1744
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:05,920
Speaker 2: take care,