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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Best of the Fan morning show

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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan.

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Speaker 2: Four Inside of the Gun, Paul the right hash.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's going to give off right side to ETN

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Speaker 3: slashes inside that thirty he's got an aftertu He's going

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Speaker 3: to go down the right side light into the intel

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Speaker 3: for a touchdown untouched.

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Speaker 1: So much going on for the Indianapolis Colts. They've now

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Speaker 1: lost what four of their last five after starting the

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Speaker 1: season seven and one. They were setting record well, they

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Speaker 1: were on pace to set a lot of offensive records.

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Speaker 1: They were just tearing things up. We knew that the

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Speaker 1: schedule wasn't the toughest, but still in the NFL, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: you start putting stats down, that's no joke right there.

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Speaker 1: So they go all in and they trade two first

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Speaker 1: round draft picks and a wide receiver to the Jets

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Speaker 1: for Sauce Gardner. He comes in within a game and

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Speaker 1: a half, he has an injury that's going to keep

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Speaker 1: him out for a while. And then, of course, yesterday

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones goes down with what we fear and what

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Speaker 1: seems to be and will be confirmed later on today,

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Speaker 1: probably as a torn achilles which we know, is them

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Speaker 1: a year before you get back? And where does this

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Speaker 1: leave the cults? Now? That's really what people are asking.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't even feel like a lot of Colts fans

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Speaker 1: are worried about playoffs this year right here, right now.

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Speaker 1: That is a concern, to be sure, But people are like, okay,

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Speaker 1: but what now? Like what do the Colts do now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's easily the question that I've gotten the

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Speaker 4: most last twenty four hours of Okay, what are you

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Speaker 4: with Anthony Richardson? What do you do with Daniel Jones' contract?

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Speaker 4: What does this mean for the futures of Shane Steike

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Speaker 4: and Chris Ballard? All of it? I mean all of

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Speaker 4: those topics now, Jeff become front burner like no other.

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Speaker 4: You know, Richardson, you have a fifth year team option

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Speaker 4: that you have to make a decision on this offseason.

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Speaker 4: By no means would his play or health indicate you

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Speaker 4: would ever pick pick that up all of a sudden?

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Speaker 4: Does it make you want to pick that up? I mean,

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Speaker 4: all of these questions now get asked. You know, as

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Speaker 4: far as the final four weeks are concerned, I have

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Speaker 4: not gotten the vibe that Anthony Richardson is close to

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Speaker 4: returning at all. That has just been my general vibe

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Speaker 4: throughout this. I think I've shared that, I think James

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Speaker 4: has shared that.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty serious injury on air.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, you're talking about a guy that I

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Speaker 4: think it's fair to say nearly lost his eye frankly,

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Speaker 4: and so you know, an orbital fracture, you know, is

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Speaker 4: what occurred in the locker room. We're going we're now

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Speaker 4: going two months without him practicing. He is doing some

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Speaker 4: weight room work, but again I have not gotten the

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Speaker 4: vibe that he is going to be back anytime soon.

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Speaker 4: So I would assume for the final four weeks that

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Speaker 4: it is Riley Leonard and then Brett Rippen is on

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Speaker 4: the practice squad. He hasn't thrown a pass an NFL

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Speaker 4: game since twenty twenty three. So that's your little short

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Speaker 4: term kind of reality, and that obviously doesn't get into

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Speaker 4: anything from a twenty twenty six quarterback point of view.

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Speaker 4: My like very like early gut reaction to it all

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Speaker 4: is okay, does Anthony Richardson just become your quarterback for

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty six? You know, Daniel Jones is likely out

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Speaker 4: with the Towny Kielees for next season. So Richardson is

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Speaker 4: under contract for next year, the fiftyear options for twenty seven,

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Speaker 4: So would you just roll with Richardson for twenty six?

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Speaker 4: But then again, once that question is asked, you very

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Speaker 4: quickly would say to the person asking that question, well,

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Speaker 4: who's calling those shots? Is it Chris Ballard? Is it

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Speaker 4: Shane Staking? And then you just throw up your hands

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Speaker 4: and say, hope that you're an AU football fan.

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Speaker 1: Real cook before we get to our first phone call,

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Speaker 1: don in a second. Here, it's night and day between

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Speaker 1: having middle of the season in rhythm. Defenses have an

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Speaker 1: entire week or two to prepare for you as a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Based on what you saw from from Riley Leonard in

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Speaker 1: that Cincinnati preseason game, what you saw a little bit yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Do you roll with him right now and say, let's

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Speaker 1: see what the kid can do. Roll with Riley Leonard

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Speaker 1: as opposed to for the rest of the year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's probably. I don't think Ripping

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Speaker 4: vastly different than Leonard. I did think, and I want

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Speaker 4: I thought there's a sequence there late in the first

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Speaker 4: You know, when you get into the rain game, weird

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Speaker 4: pressure and at the very least you make Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 4: when they had third and one and fourth and one

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Speaker 4: that to me was just I thought it was idiotic.

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Speaker 4: You know, Riley Leonard is not a pocket passer. That

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Speaker 4: is not his game. His game is if there is

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Speaker 4: a strength to it, it is running. And so I

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Speaker 4: thought we would see and again, Shane's got a plan

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Speaker 4: for this. You have to have a backup plan. Okay,

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Speaker 4: if all of a sudden my quarterback gets hurt, here

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Speaker 4: are the whatever two dozen package A dozen plays right,

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Speaker 4: And I would assume with Leonard a lot of it

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Speaker 4: it's what it's him making a play with his legs.

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Speaker 4: Look at the first third down he converts to Alec Pierce.

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Speaker 4: It's him making a play with his legs. That is

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Speaker 4: his game. I mean, Notre Dame fans saw it all

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Speaker 4: last year. College football fans saw it in the run

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Speaker 4: and at that point Jacksonville knows full well if you

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Speaker 4: they sell out on Taylor and boom. You know, if

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Speaker 4: me was just agree just from Shane and I thought

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Speaker 4: your defense was awful yesterday. I mean, Jacksonville, I get

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Speaker 4: that there's no Buck, No, there's no Gardner. Jacksonville's missing

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Speaker 4: like that all year long. Just awful. No sacks, no

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Speaker 1: Does Quidy pay still play for the Colts?

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Speaker 4: Just awful?

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Speaker 1: There's a guy that lines up with his number, but

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Speaker 1: does he do anything awful? Honestly? And I will say

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Speaker 1: one thing before I move on to Don too. You

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Speaker 1: go back to that fourth and one. There is very

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Speaker 1: little in all of the NFL that makes me cringe

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Speaker 1: and that I hate more than going for short yardage

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Speaker 1: know these coaches well that if I put this guy

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Speaker 1: in motion, now we can move this guy around and

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll try to get some misdirection going on. You

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Speaker 1: know how, I feel like it's football. At some point

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Speaker 1: you just got to make a yard and your guys

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Speaker 1: can you do it or they can't. Sometimes it just

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Speaker 1: drives me nuts. All right, let's go to the phone lines.

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Speaker 1: Don joins U two through nine ten seventy. Good morning, Don,

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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Fan Morning Show.

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Speaker 5: Good morning Fall congratulations, Hoosiers's a long time waiting for us,

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Speaker 5: who for fans, which turned me into a Notre Dame fan,

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Speaker 5: which I don't get. Why they snuffed him over Alabam

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Speaker 5: over Notre Dame. They haven't did nothing. Why are they

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Speaker 5: kicking Alabama's a doubles when they haven't done anything.

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Speaker 6: I get sick of that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 5: It's not right and it's wrong. And hopefully the Colts

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Speaker 5: will come out of there. I don't see Riley Leonard

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Speaker 5: being that bad of a quarterback. He's still a rookie.

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Speaker 5: I believe they can make a good quarterback out of him,

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Speaker 5: and we're gonna beat Jack and Bill. We're a better

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Speaker 5: team than them. Our next showing. We just got to

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Speaker 5: take care of the other three.

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Speaker 6: Games, and I believe we still got hope.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, have good day, Thanks very much. I

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Speaker 1: like Riley Leonard, but I don't like him as a

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback in the NFL, certainly at this point, Kevin.

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Speaker 4: What am I allowed to ran about Notre Dame?

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Speaker 1: We'll do it now. It's on the table right the second.

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Speaker 4: We don't only have James Boy coming up.

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Speaker 1: We got two minutes before we get to James.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna you a lot longer in two minutes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and we'll hold on to that.

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Speaker 4: Your favorite moment from Saturday night inside of Lucas.

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Speaker 1: Probably just watching the elation of everybody when that field

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Speaker 1: goal went left and it's obvious you are now going

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Speaker 1: to beat As crazy as it sounds, you knew they

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Speaker 1: were going to be one of the top two seeds

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Speaker 1: going into the playoffs. That wasn't in question. To be

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Speaker 1: your regular season schedule though, and beat Ohio State. I

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Speaker 1: just I think the elation that I felt from people

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Speaker 1: it was the talk of the town at the retirement home, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: It's all people wanted to talk about that moment. It's

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Speaker 1: almost hard to describe collectively what the Indiana fan base

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Speaker 1: felt in that moment where that realization is, oh, no,

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Speaker 1: not only are we undefeated, but we just beat Ohio State. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're going to the football PLAYFF and we're gonna win

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Speaker 1: the thing too, as opposed to man, just happy we

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Speaker 1: got there. Can you believe we're in the College Football Playoff.

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Speaker 1: It was we just beat Ohio State and now we're

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was one of those nights where like, are

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Speaker 4: we allowed to sleep inside of Lugosolo Stadium? I thought,

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Speaker 4: you know, there's so many cool scenes. I thought when

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Speaker 4: Aiden Fisher kind of took the mic there and led

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Speaker 4: like for IU fans. You know, again, in three weeks,

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Speaker 4: you might have a very similar scene in Pasadena, and

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Speaker 4: maybe after that it's Atlanta. Maybe after that it's in Miami.

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Speaker 4: But no matter what happens, even if they are to

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Speaker 4: lose in the quarterfinal round, like that post game moment,

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Speaker 4: obviously Banana Medosa when he takes the mic, I feel

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Speaker 4: like he's half like one of those preacher guys on

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Speaker 1: In the scene.

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Speaker 4: No no, no, but but he's meeting Mark Dyiton's WWE personality.

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Speaker 1: But burstool Sports actually tweeted out, did we just watch

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Speaker 1: a guy lose the Heisman trophy in a postgame?

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Speaker 4: It's quite the scene. Anytime he is taking the mic,

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Speaker 4: I feel like he's you'll speaking through my soul. But

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Speaker 1: All right, he is gone, but certainly not forgotten. Today

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Speaker 1: Good morning, James. You know we had talked about the

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Speaker 6: No, they're in trouble. Their season probably just ended yesterday

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Speaker 4: James, how would you describe the locker room scene yesterday?

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Speaker 6: Probably one of the more depressing locker rooms I've been

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Speaker 4: James, I gave some thoughts on Anthony Richardson in twenty

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Speaker 6: I'm antually not sure if he traveled yesterday. I did

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Speaker 1: now from Jacksonville. We know what it was like around

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Speaker 4: James Boyd from the Atletica course, so he is traveling

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Speaker 4: coming up tomorrow from Afar. James, what was viewing Saturday

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Speaker 6: Ah was great me and Nathan Brown actually saw it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly a crazy weekend of sports. I don't know

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Speaker 6: Mackie, No, not at all. One of the worst losses

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Speaker 4: Thanks James, Thanks very much.

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Speaker 1: That person's starting off way behind that.

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Speaker 4: That's quite the way to start a rebuild. Yeah, but

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Speaker 4: You know, there's either poor play or there's a lot.

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Speaker 4: they average like seven yards per play in the first half.

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Speaker 4: That is just an awful, awful number there. So again

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Speaker 4: helping Riley Leonard terrible from the Colts yesterday.

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Speaker 1: All right, coming up in a moment, we will take

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Speaker 1: more of your phone calls. We'll get to the text

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Speaker 1: line in depth for the first time today. Got a

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Speaker 1: lot to talk about. What do you do next? If

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Speaker 1: you're the Indianapolis Colts, where do you go? How do

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Speaker 1: you move on now? Without some five year plan in

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Speaker 1: the back of your mind? Because there's a things have

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Speaker 1: changed a lot in the last seventy two hours, forty

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Speaker 1: eight hours. We'll do it next ninety three five and

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Speaker 1: one oh seven five. These sees the Fan Morning Show

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Speaker 1: with KB JB and Jeff.

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Speaker 7: Here's a staff. Fernando throws it up field catch us

448
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Speaker 7: made at the thirty four yard line. Great grab.

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Speaker 1: There's a Hoosier done already. Fernando Mendoza is on the ground.

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Speaker 1: I did not see it.

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Speaker 7: So Fernando gets decked on the first play of the

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Speaker 7: ball game.

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Speaker 1: Now he steps up.

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Speaker 7: He's gonna be all right, and Mendoza takes the stat

455
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Speaker 7: wants to throw it, fires a.

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Speaker 1: Down the field.

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Speaker 7: It's for Elijah Sorondi makes the couch text it's gonna

458
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Speaker 7: be a twenty eight yard field goal. Here's the stamp

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Speaker 7: field and kicks the ball.

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Speaker 2: It is wood.

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Speaker 8: It is wood Wood to the left, he's the Dada

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Speaker 8: has big neal half steak.

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Speaker 2: But a number one team to whoever the.

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Speaker 4: Wold would be here.

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Speaker 1: But now the Hooses we're flipping champs.

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Speaker 5: Let go.

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Speaker 1: Playoffs are just starting.

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Speaker 6: And now we're gonna get it bye and uh.

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Speaker 4: So you gotta win three games.

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Speaker 1: Luff of bo to be played.

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Speaker 3: Here's an RTHEO and it's an interception and it's picked

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Speaker 3: off by Devin Lloyd. Lloyd started right cutting through, has left.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be chopped.

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Speaker 3: Down another twenty one yard line all between the hash

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Speaker 3: marks for Daniel Jones along back of the backfield as

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor Jones on a counter gives off to Taylor

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Speaker 3: Knight thing try to find.

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Speaker 2: His way into the end zone.

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Speaker 1: He's in yes touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Game is tied at seventh.

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Speaker 3: Lawrence goes out of the gun ball in the right hash,

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Speaker 3: back to pass.

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Speaker 2: He's looking for to the right side and it's caught

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Speaker 2: for a.

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Speaker 3: Touchdown of the end zones to Jacoby Myers a fourteen

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Speaker 3: yard pass.

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Speaker 2: There's a flag on the play and Daniel Jones is down.

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jones can't even make it over to the sideline

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Speaker 3: if he looked at he is seated on.

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Speaker 1: The turf and he just slammed his helmet to the grass.

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Speaker 1: He is now limping over to the cold sideline.

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Speaker 2: Florence out of the gun ball the right hash and.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna give off right side to et In slashes.

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Speaker 2: Inside with thirty. He's got an avenue. He's gonna go

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Speaker 2: down the right.

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Speaker 3: Side, light in the infl for a touchdown untouched.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones has an achy lease.

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Speaker 1: Could be season ending. I don't have the full details

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Speaker 1: on it. A lot of this stuff too. As you

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Speaker 1: go through a season, you're gonna have You're gonna go

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Speaker 1: through some storms and some adversity, and you got to

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Speaker 1: overcome those. And so that's what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 9: We're gonna fight like crazy, him believing, we know that we.

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Speaker 1: Got a big one coming up on the road. The

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Speaker 1: competitor in Shane Sniken feels that way. But man, you're

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Speaker 1: starting to lose ammunition left and right, whether it's DeForrest Buckner,

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Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner. Now your quarterback, Daniel Jones. And look, you

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Speaker 1: talked about it and wrote about it, Kevin. When it

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Speaker 1: first happened, when the Colts three four weeks ago made

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Speaker 1: the decision to give up two first round draft picks

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Speaker 1: and Ady Mitchell to the New York Jets for Sauce Gardner,

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Speaker 1: they were essentially saying, we're all in for the next

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Speaker 1: several years. Here. We've got a quarterback, we've got a

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Speaker 1: stud running back. We like our wide receiver corps. We

515
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Speaker 1: know we need some help on the defensive line, but

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Speaker 1: we are going to have just a kick ass secondary

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Speaker 1: that's going to help everything out on defense. We're all in, man.

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Speaker 1: Since then Sauce Gardner out for an undetermined amount of

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Speaker 1: time and now Daniel Jones out for the rest of

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Speaker 1: this season and probably most of next year, if not

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Speaker 1: all of next year, and whether or not he's even

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. Remember he's on a one year deal. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot going on for the Indianapolis Colts all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden that they didn't even have to think about

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Speaker 1: forty eight hours ago.

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Speaker 4: That's certainly true. We did it in seven o'clock hour.

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Speaker 4: I'll do it again here. I can't start with Colts though,

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Speaker 4: I gotta go back to Saturday night in just that

529
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Speaker 4: scene inside of Lucas Soil Stadium, Caleb, thank you for that, rejoiner,

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Speaker 4: And here Don Fisher's voice. Honestly, yeah, sex a little

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Speaker 4: bit of fish on Saturday morning. He got a kick

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Speaker 4: out of the comments on Friday when we said, you know,

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Speaker 4: we should carry him by Pharaoh, you know, like like

534
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Speaker 4: like a pharaoh from Gambridge Field House over to Lucas

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Speaker 4: Soil Stadium. And now he's you know, calling Indiana back

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Speaker 4: in the Rose Bowl, which is just absolutely insane for

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Speaker 4: the first time since what's sixty sixty eight. So, you know,

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Speaker 4: I think of this market as cruel as sports can be,

539
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Speaker 4: and we've seen that certainly. You have had certain fan

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Speaker 4: bases get moments that have led to tears frankly positive

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Speaker 4: seeres happy tiers over the last few years. Obviously, the

542
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Speaker 4: Pacers I think created that this past you know summer,

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Speaker 4: this past spring with you know, really kind of a

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Speaker 4: Hollywood run all the way until Game seven, you know,

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Speaker 4: a couple of years ago, when Purdue makes that Final four,

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Speaker 4: and for fans that are at that game in Detroit,

547
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Speaker 4: and you know, whether it is the Lance Jones three

548
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Speaker 4: of the Zach e Edy block, and to get to

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Speaker 4: a Final four for the first time in years for

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Speaker 4: Indiana fans certainly haven't had in basketball. And it's their

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Speaker 4: football program that offers that on Saturday night. And that's

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Speaker 4: what I was struck by of just, you know, so

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Speaker 4: much of the day, the anticipation for Saturday night, and

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Speaker 4: obviously the basketball game doesn't go well at all, but

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Speaker 4: to have that in your state capitol, to have it

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Speaker 4: be Ohio State, to have all of a sudden, the

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Speaker 4: bracket pop up yesterday and the first team that Reese

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Speaker 4: Davis mentions is Indiana. It's just I have been that

559
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Speaker 4: a loss so many mondays in the Kurtz Signetti era

560
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Speaker 4: of how to properly put it into context? And I

561
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Speaker 4: once again and at a loss for it, and it's

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Speaker 4: just beyond remarkable. It's the greatest coaching job in my opinion,

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Speaker 4: college or pro sports. I'll repeat what I said in

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Speaker 4: the seven o'clock hour, and I don't think that is

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Speaker 4: some hyperbolic you you know, happen to just you know,

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Speaker 4: be in market with that team. No, I think it's true.

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Speaker 4: And again that defense, like Fernando Mendoza will hoist the

568
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Speaker 4: Heisman coming up Saturday night, and he made some big

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Speaker 4: time throws and Charlie Becker made some big time catches.

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Speaker 4: Elijah Sharrott made a huge play on third and eight

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Speaker 4: there to I guess score the eventual game winning touchdown.

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Speaker 4: But their defense is just that story is that might

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Speaker 4: be the most amazing element because it's I mean, Fernando

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Speaker 4: Mendoza had a lot of hype as a transfer. There

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Speaker 4: was a lot of appeal to wanting for Nando Mendoza.

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Speaker 4: That defense is not littered with those types of portal

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Speaker 4: editions on it. There's some JMU flavor to it. There's

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Speaker 4: the five nine D'Angelo ponds to it. You know, there's

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Speaker 4: a guy from Navy that that transferred. And yet they

580
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Speaker 4: just dominated that game and really the only touchdown of

581
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Speaker 4: Hio State score was because of that interception. So unbelievable

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Speaker 4: job by Brian Haynes, Pat Koons, whole defensive staff, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so much fun to watch. And even yesterday

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Speaker 1: out and about whether I was visiting my mom for

585
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Speaker 1: most of the day or even later on when my

586
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Speaker 1: boys and I went out, all people wanted to talk

587
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Speaker 1: about was Indiana. And to your point, I think people

588
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Speaker 1: are still pinching themselves like they're used to Indiana basketball

589
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Speaker 1: even though it's been a long time. Right, last time

590
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Speaker 1: they went to Sweet sixteen was the Tom Creanier and

591
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Speaker 1: before that, you know, you got to go back to

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Speaker 1: the one Mike Davis here, But nothing like this ever, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: And I mean, you grew up in this state. You

594
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Speaker 1: know what it's like. You know, Notre Dame. They're bummed

595
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Speaker 1: they didn't get to go to the college football Playoff,

596
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Speaker 1: Like it's almost a birthright expectation if you're playing well

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Speaker 1: and have a good season, And I get that, but

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Speaker 1: for Indiana just be in the college football playoff, but

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Speaker 1: to be the consensus number one team in the country

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Speaker 1: and having knocked off the previous thought to be number

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Speaker 1: one team in the country. I don't know that you'll

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Speaker 1: even if they continue to do this, I don't think

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Speaker 1: you'll ever be able to replicate what this feeling is

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Speaker 1: like right now, can you?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 4: I mean, who knows what conference championships are going to

607
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 4: be moving forward. I guess let's just start there. So

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Speaker 4: I mean to create that scene and to have that

609
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Speaker 4: scene in your state capital against that opponent, you know

610
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Speaker 4: of Ohio States beating you how many years in a row,

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Speaker 4: and how the game played out. Frankly, I thought, what's

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Speaker 4: his name, Ohio State kicker? I thought he almost missed

613
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Speaker 4: the first kick. The first kick was a chip shot.

614
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Speaker 4: I thought he almost that little curvy thing going to

615
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Speaker 4: off the left up right, and then sure enough the

616
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Speaker 4: second one, and I just thought it was just some

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Speaker 4: of the softest coaching from Ryan Day not to go.

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Speaker 1: To go for that. Not my favorite guy, but okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean, what what.

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Speaker 4: Like go for it?

621
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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 4: So you kick the field goal just to have to

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Speaker 4: wait and get another score later in the game, No go,

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Speaker 4: you had? Really they leaned on Indiana a little bit

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Speaker 4: there in that second half, and it's like, okay, how

626
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 4: many body blows in the Indian Evans is hanging in there,

627
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Speaker 4: hanging in there, hanging in there, But you are Ohio

628
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Speaker 4: State and you don't go for fourth and you know,

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Speaker 4: really inches. I mean they had two of those in

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Speaker 4: the second half, third and ones inside the ten yard line,

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Speaker 4: and you walk away with zero points. And I thought

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Speaker 4: it was I thought Ohio State deserved Mendoza to Becker

633
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Speaker 4: to ice the game, like by you being so cowardly

634
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Speaker 4: and deciding to kick it there and miss it, you

635
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Speaker 4: deserve the Heisman moment to occur. And again Charlie b

636
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 4: from Tennessee will be ringing in my ears for a

637
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Speaker 4: long long time. You can think what you want about

638
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Speaker 4: Gus Johnson, but I thought every time he said that

639
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Speaker 4: about Charlie Becker, pretty pretty spot on there. What a well?

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Speaker 4: What ever from him here over the final month and

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Speaker 4: half of the season. You know, when injuries have occurred,

642
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 4: to Elijah sarad Omar Cooper Junior leaves the game early on,

643
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 4: doesn't sound like it's too severe on that front. But

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Speaker 4: for Becker to continue to step up for this team,

645
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 4: it's part of building the college football program. You know,

646
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 4: depth is key. Injuries happen, can you do it? And

647
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Speaker 4: Indiana has withstood some of that and did it on

648
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Speaker 4: a grand stage Saturday night. Kevin.

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Speaker 9: I was also going to say too about the defense.

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Speaker 9: I know Jeremiah Smith had a lot of yards, but

651
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Speaker 9: D'Angelo pons like some of the red zone reps that

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Speaker 9: he had on Jeremiah Smith where he is just that

653
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Speaker 9: third and one, he was on an island sometimes and

654
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Speaker 9: they I know they bracketed him a lot, but I

655
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Speaker 9: thought Dangelo pons like was the story too on that

656
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Speaker 9: defensive side.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he is another one and you know

658
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Speaker 4: when you look at his resume of the five to

659
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 4: nine frame and another guy that transferred up and you

660
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Speaker 4: know he missed. I think it was the Iowa game

661
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 4: earlier in the year. So that aspect, like what's the

662
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 4: best aspect of the Indiana football team. It's their defense.

663
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think more so than Fernanda Mendoza. As

664
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Speaker 4: crazy as that sounds, I think it is their defense

665
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Speaker 4: that is their true calling card. And I think they

666
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 4: sent quite a message to anyone they'll face here in

667
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 4: the quarterfinal round Alabama Oklahoma or semi final round of

668
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 4: Texas Tech or Oregon, whoever it's going to be of

669
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Speaker 4: you know, driving on us consistently is no easy task.

670
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 4: I mean, look at Oregon. Oregon struggled to move it and

671
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 4: they put up huge points all year long. And then

672
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 4: obviously look at Ohio State on Saturday night with Jeremiah

673
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 4: Smith in there and Carnel Tate healthy and Bo Jackson

674
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Speaker 4: had some decent runs. And yeah, that that defensive championship.

675
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Speaker 1: One of the things I've said all along, all as

676
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Speaker 1: this season is unfolded, and you know how it is, Kevin.

677
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Speaker 1: Various radio stations or networks will call you every once

678
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Speaker 1: in a while, Hey, can you come on and talk

679
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: for a few minutes about Indiana and what have you?

680
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Speaker 1: And I keep talent people. This is a different football team.

681
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: You talk about that defense, Kevin, they are this team,

682
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: even offensively along that offensive line. This is a physical

683
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: football team. Like they don't stand back from anybody. They

684
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Speaker 1: will go head to head with you in the interior line. Offense,

685
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: defense doesn't matter. You add to that the skill players

686
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: like Sarat, like Cooper, and I think people are starting

687
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: to figure out they got some pretty good running backs too.

688
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: But then you throw in what you've been talking about,

689
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: that defense, which is not only physical, but they can

690
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Speaker 1: cover you and you talk about what they were able

691
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: to do in the secondary. They were talking about what

692
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: they were able to do, you know, for the most part,

693
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: just not letting Ohio State go on any big, big

694
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Speaker 1: runs at any point in the game. And I also

695
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: go back to something I saw a great interview not

696
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: too long ago. Kurtzik Nutty was on Dan Patrick and

697
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick was like, could you've ever seen this coming

698
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: this path? And he goes, well, you know, this is

699
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: kind of how I got here. And he talked about,

700
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: you know, the lower divisions when he coached, and he

701
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: did it there, and then he did it again, and

702
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: then he did it at JMU, and when Indiana called,

703
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: he thought to himself, all right, why can't we just

704
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: do it there too, And that kind of goes back

705
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Speaker 1: to when he was saying, google me I win. He goes,

706
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Speaker 1: I didn't see why I wouldn't be able to build

707
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Speaker 1: what we had built in previous stops, doing the same

708
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: things that we did, finding the same kinds of players.

709
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Speaker 1: And you know, we can all say it's yeah, it's

710
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: a completely different level right now. But Kurt Signetty can

711
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: just flat out coach. You could make the case Kevin

712
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: that he's the best coach in college football. When you

713
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: take a look at where he's done it, how he's

714
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Speaker 1: done it at every single level, at every stable single

715
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: position you could find yourself in, He's just gotten it done.

716
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Speaker 4: It goes back to the conversation we've had before. He

717
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 4: was the right type of coach at the right time.

718
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 4: It wasn't just that he had a winning resume and

719
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Speaker 4: they hired him. It was a he was a no

720
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Speaker 4: nonsense I'm gonna look at people in this athletic department,

721
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 4: in this fan base and tell you, no, that's the

722
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 4: old way. We're doing it my way. Enough of thinking

723
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Speaker 4: like loser, old Indiana football. We're not doing that anymore.

724
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 4: This is how it is going to be. I've told

725
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 4: the story before when we had him on at Colt

726
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 4: strandycamp a few I guess it had been just before

727
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 4: his first year. I compared him to Will Smith and

728
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 4: Hitch didn't really ring to kurtzign necessarily, but like it

729
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 4: takes a little bit of the we're gonna think my way,

730
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 4: we're going to I don't care if that's how whatever

731
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 4: Tom Allen, Kevin Wilson, etc. Etc. Did it or how

732
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 4: old Indiana football has done it it's going to be

733
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Speaker 4: this way, and I think that was key. It's not

734
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 4: just that he won, it's that he's going to reshape

735
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 4: how you think. And not only for the players, but

736
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Speaker 4: I think also for the athletic department and the fan

737
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 4: base as well. It was huge. And one just last

738
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Speaker 4: thing about their defense. It really I think hit me

739
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 4: during the Illinois game because you know, fans of Indiana's

740
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 4: football program, they've had a wide out on occasion, they've

741
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 4: had a cornerback on occasion that's worthy of playing in

742
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 4: the NFL. I mean, how Tracy Porter made one of

743
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 4: the biggest plays and you know anti Colt history, but

744
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 4: they've never looked like this in the trenches. Never, And

745
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 4: that's the difference for me. It's that, you know, skilled

746
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 4: talent in Indiana. I mean, they've they've put up points before.

747
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 4: That's not like that outlandish of a thought. It's being

748
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 4: a championship team up front, and they certainly are that.

749
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, no question about that. Go to the text line

750
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Speaker 1: at two through nine, ten seventy and Charles says, ooh,

751
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: the possibility of an Indiana JMU semi final. Good luck,

752
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: it'd be a great story. Good luck to JMU on

753
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: That is what I would say. But he does make

754
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: a good point. Could you imagine, Kevin.

755
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 4: Jam you would have to win what two games?

756
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

757
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 4: Is that what it is?

758
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: They have to get to any of us.

759
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 4: Got Oklahoma Alabama winner again New Year's Day, four o'clock

760
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 4: in the Rose Bowl for planning purposes for fans out there.

761
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 4: If they win that, they'd go to Atlanta for the

762
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 4: Peach Bowl. That's a Friday, January ninth.

763
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: JMU would have to be Oregon and Texas Tech to

764
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: make that happen. Suppose it could happen. I doubt it.

765
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: A lot of people checking in on on just how

766
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: much fun this weekend has been and you felt that.

767
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if you were out and about yesterday

768
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: at all, but you could just you could feel it.

769
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: There's Indiana garb everywhere, there's shirts, there's jackets, there's hats.

770
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: But you could just see people talking about that everywhere

771
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: you go.

772
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I mean, you know again, I've said it

773
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 4: earlier in the show. It's how Purdue fans felt after

774
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 4: the Elite eight win over Tennessee a few years back.

775
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 4: It's how Pacers fans felt probably after what game six

776
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 4: of the next series is probably how it truly got there.

777
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 4: You know, Miles turnerund the mike saying Indiana in gamebridge

778
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 4: Field House. That to me was kind of like Aiden

779
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 4: Fisher grabbing the mic Saturday night and saying, you know,

780
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 4: let's cueue up the fight song inside of lucas Ol.

781
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 4: So you know, it's a night where the security guards

782
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 4: have to beg you to leave. You know, there are

783
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 4: many times a sports fan where you probably want to leave.

784
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 4: Saturday night wasn't one of those. You wanted to sleep

785
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 4: inside of. You know, get out some sleeping bags in

786
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 4: the bud light zone because we're gonna We're gonna be

787
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 4: here for a while.

788
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: Man.

789
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 9: I love that Kevin like just camping up, made some

790
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 9: make some sausage and eggs in the morning, you know,

791
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 9: kegs and eggs, and started off morning.

792
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: You knows Kevin went right to Kegs toos I mean, hell,

793
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: Colts fans gonna need to drown their sorrows.

794
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 4: Uh.

795
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: To that point, Darren writes in should be a Hoosier's

796
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: day and week of enjoyment. I know you guys have

797
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: to say shiate a lot of different sports fans. I

798
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: get it. The one thing I've been harping about on

799
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: the cults for over two years. Is that Shane needs

800
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: to give up or have taken away his play calling?

801
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: How is this not more major story focus on head coaching.

802
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: A lot of people all over the place on the

803
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: cults and what they should do and how they should

804
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: do it. But isn't part of the strength of Shane

805
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: Steiking supposedly is play calling.

806
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, right now the grape of Shane sikeing. You're

807
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 4: two and eight against Houston and Jacksonville the last three

808
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 4: years in the Shane second era, you were two and

809
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 4: eight against the Texans and the Jaguars, the two teams

810
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 4: that matter the most on your schedule. And look at

811
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 4: the Texans and the Jaguars over the last three years.

812
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 4: Jacksonville's changed coaches, Trevor Lawrence seems to be the one

813
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 4: that they can't wait to get rid of, Houston, changed

814
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 4: offensive coordinators. C. J. Stroud's been in and out of

815
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 4: the lineup. And yet you're two to eight against those

816
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 4: two teams. It's not like you're this you know, overwhelmingly

817
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 4: touchdown ten point underdog every time you face them. And

818
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 4: that's the reality of where you're at right now you

819
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 4: know so much of this is go back to Chris

820
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 4: Boward season and press conference. We need more tough guys.

821
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 4: We don't win the games in December and blah blah.

822
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 7: Yeah.

823
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 4: Well, the two biggest games of the season Houston and

824
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 4: Jacksonville back to back weeks, so far lost loss.

825
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: Chris says, who would have ever thought i U football

826
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: would win the conference before basketball gets back to the

827
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: final four or win the Big Ten Basketball tournament. Incredible?

828
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: You got Indiana football and the college football playoff before

829
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: Indiana's even been back in the conference tournament.

830
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 4: Shout out to Tom Crane and the one a few

831
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 4: twenty thirteen.

832
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Speaker 1: Yep, it's been a while there. By the way, a

833
00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: lot of Colts headlines coming in. We'll get to those

834
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: little bit later on. So I know Mark is not

835
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: here today. If you want to send those on the

836
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Speaker 1: text line two, three, nine, ten seventy. We'll get to

837
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Speaker 1: those a little bit later on today. In the meantime,

838
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: we got a lot to talk about. Caleb. Let's check

839
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: this thing down right the morning checkdown on ninety sweet

840
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: five and one oh seven five the ban As expected,

841
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: the Indiana Hoosiers are the number one seed in the

842
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five college football Playoff. After a thirteen to

843
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: ten win in the Big Ten Conference championship game against

844
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: Ohio State in downtown Indianapolis at Lucas Oil Stadium on

845
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: Saturday night, I would imagine there are a lot of people

846
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: couldn't even get to sleep till three or four o'clock

847
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: in the morning. Kevin just so fired up.

848
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was quite the scene their post game, to

849
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 4: say the least, there I think again, happening in your

850
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 4: state capital, happening inside Lucas Oil State. I remember a

851
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 4: few years back, Indiana played Louisville at Lucas So Oil

852
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 4: in a regular season game. I remember Mark and I

853
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 4: chatting during the break being like, dude, I had no

854
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 4: idea that football game was even going on. IU football

855
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 4: playing in the NFL stadium in the state capitol, and

856
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 4: I didn't even know what was going on. And then

857
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 4: you have a scene like Saturday Night of Taylor Swift

858
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 4: like mania for tickets, and then it plays out in

859
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 4: the manner that it did.

860
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: Man, So one big snub in the college football playoff selection.

861
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: Notre Dame on the outside looking in, and they'll talk

862
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: about the head to head loss to Miami. That's fine,

863
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: but I think you and I are both more concerned

864
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,919
Speaker 1: about a couple of other things, chief among them three

865
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Speaker 1: loss Alabama, who hasn't looked good in five weeks, getting

866
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: in no matter what after their loss in the SEC

867
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: Championship game where they were just boat raced by Georgia

868
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: Tech or by Georgia not Georgia.

869
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 4: Tat Yeah, I'm gon give some thoughts on the other side

870
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 4: on it.

871
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: All right, We'll let you do that at that point

872
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: in time, and we'll break all of that bracket down.

873
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: I Meanwhile, in the NFL yesterday, we've also been talking

874
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: about the fact that the Colts were thirty six nineteen

875
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: losers in Jacksonville. They still haven't won there since twenty fourteen.

876
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 1: But more than that, oh much more than that, Daniel

877
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: Jones goes down with what looks like an achilles tear

878
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: in his right leg. We'll get confirmation on that a

879
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,959
Speaker 1: little bit later on today. But where do they go? Now?

880
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: What do the Colts do? Now? I know for the

881
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: immediate it's probably Riley Leonard, maybe Brett Rippon, But where

882
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: does this team go? You can't really count on Daniel

883
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: Jones a to be healthy next year. But what is

884
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones? We had all those questions before this happened.

885
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: What do you do now if you're the Indianapolis Colts.

886
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: What's the future look like?

887
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, a million questions with answers that are difficult and

888
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 4: not ideal at all. Yeah, it's just it's a really,

889
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 4: really sour, sour time to be a Colts fan. I

890
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 4: wish I could say it in a different light, but

891
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 4: that's the reality of where you're at. If indeed this

892
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 4: season continues to go the way it is going, I

893
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 4: guess for those holding to any helpe because the thing

894
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 4: about it, Jeff, it's not like you can tank. What

895
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 4: are you thanking for? People want the Pacers to tank. Well,

896
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 4: the Pacers have the top five pick potentially waiting for him.

897
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 4: The Colts have the what forty fifth pick? I don't know.

898
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 4: I mean they are their first rounder, so wherever their

899
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 4: second round pick is going to be. So yeah, it's

900
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 4: just it's a kick in the kicking the you know

901
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 4: what region.

902
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 1: Also, the Houston Texans win again last night on Sunday

903
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 1: Night Football. They beat Kansas City Chiefs by a score

904
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: of twenty to ten. Jacksonville, of course, with the head

905
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: to head went over, the Colts remains in first place

906
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: in the AFC South and with that when the Texans

907
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: move into second place in the AFC South, and later

908
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: on tonight Monday Night Football, Philadelphia Eagles take on the

909
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers. All of a sudden, there's a rooting

910
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: interest there for Colts fans.

911
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, So if you are holding out for that playoff, hope.

912
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 4: I would say the Chargers have one of the most

913
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 4: difficult schedules the rest of the way. They are currently

914
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 4: eight and four, so a loss tonight, they're eight and five.

915
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 4: If the Colts have the same record as the Chargers

916
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 4: and it's just those two teams, the Colts would get

917
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 4: in based off their head to head. But I mean,

918
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 4: right now, are you betting on the Colts to win

919
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 4: another game the rest of the season.

920
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough. You look at that schedule right

921
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: now and it doesn't get any easier. We talked about it,

922
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: but Jacksonville was you know you're gonna play them twice.

923
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: You've already lost the first one. Now you play Seattle,

924
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: you play San Francisco, Jacksonville again. In Houston's it is

925
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: We've always known this is gonna be a tough one.

926
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 1: Now you're gonna be playing with one hand tye behind

927
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: your back.

928
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 4: Well in Seahawks and forty nine Ers the next two weeks,

929
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 4: they're still going for the one scene and trying to

930
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 4: get a home game. I mean, the NFC was probably

931
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 4: the best division of football this season. So yeah, just

932
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 4: a brutal, brutal schedule.

933
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: All right, NBA. Later on tonight, field House will be

934
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: the scene of the Indiana Pacers taking on the Sacramento Kings.

935
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: But no, no Devanas Sabonis in the building, or at

936
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 1: least not on the court tonight, Kevin.

937
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kings have been pretty bad this season. Shout out

938
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 4: to the Pacers got their first road win of the

939
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 4: on Friday night. Pascal Siakam Great Benedict Mather. How about

940
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 4: the story of Ethan Thompson. Didn't we all go to

941
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 4: school with a guy named Ethan Thompson.

942
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: All I know is I look up and the guy's

943
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: making shots all over the.

944
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 4: Place, making shots hoping. Rick Carlisle shared this story with us,

945
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 4: But it sounded like all of a sudden they realized

946
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 4: Ben Shepper was going to be out. Ethan Thompson just

947
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 4: joined the team. He was playing with some of their

948
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 4: developmental guys, and Carlisle called over to the United Center,

949
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 4: this is like whatever. Friday afternoon, it was like, hey,

950
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 4: get Ethan Thompson off the floor. We need him tonight

951
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 4: to play for the Pacers. Not only did he play,

952
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 4: he started the second half and played really well. I thought,

953
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 4: so just you know, the Pacers have had a couple

954
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 4: of these stories this season. But yeah, first road win Kings,

955
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 4: and then they really have a lot of practice time

956
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 4: awaiting the next two weeks. So if they're ever going

957
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 4: to get those back on track Aaron E. Smith's return

958
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 4: potentially by the end of this month, then you know,

959
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 4: maybe it'll happen.

960
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: All right. Also, college basketball yesterday one game in the

961
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: United State beats Southern Indiana seventy seven to fifty five,

962
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: and of course it was a tough one on Saturday

963
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: at Mack Arena, a twenty three point loss for the

964
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: pretty Boiler Makers at home against Iowa State. Iowa State,

965
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: it's a good team. I wouldn't have been shocked if

966
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: they'd have won that game, but not the way that

967
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: they did win it.

968
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 4: Kevin Bonwe Yeah, you don't see Perdue get absolutely run

969
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 4: out of their own building in the manor that they

970
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 4: did on Saturday. Trey Hoffman ran really struggled in the

971
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 4: first half there. Yes, I do think Iowa State is legit,

972
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 4: but still I was most disappointing the start to the

973
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 4: second half. You know, I thought the first half would

974
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 4: be a wake up call for Matt Painter's bunch. But

975
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 4: a first non conference home loss since twenty nineteen.

976
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: Seasons over in Division three four depaw, they lose to

977
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: Wheaton forty nine to twenty four. Anything else you want

978
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: to throw in.

979
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a rough loss for Butler too at

980
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 4: home on Saturday. Yeah, I mean you can't ignore all

981
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 4: of it there. I mean Boise State, I you know,

982
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 4: from a resume standpoint, that hurt what Butler is built

983
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 4: up here. So they'll have a Northwestern upcome. They'll start

984
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 4: their Big East play here. I want to say it's

985
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 4: this week and then we'll get that Indie Classic a

986
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 4: week from Saturday. So that'll be Purdue in Auburn, Butler

987
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 4: and Northwestern there at Shout out to the Notre Dame

988
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 4: basketball team. Jalen Harrelson, the five star looking every bit

989
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 4: like it. Marcus Burton leaves early at TCU Friday night.

990
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 4: I said it to you guys on Friday, I would

991
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 4: take a Notre Dame out of the playoffs for the

992
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 4: basketball team to win at TCU, and the sports gods

993
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 4: literally said, are you sure about that?

994
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: There may be some revisionist his watch going on there.

995
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 9: What's the percentage of Notre Dame basketball football fans that

996
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 9: are like you? Because I don't think there's many that

997
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 9: would say that. Respect to you, Kevin.

998
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 4: Ryan Bowen's the only other one I've ever met in

999
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 4: my life. What a great win at TCU, A great

1000
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 4: week for Notre Dame basketball last week. Jalen Harrelson outstanding,

1001
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 4: it's the shot to send it an overtime Cole Serta

1002
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 4: hitting three small over the state of Texas.

1003
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: Let's go, man, let's go.

1004
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 4: It's basketball season in South Bend.

1005
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: Baby, there will be a basketball game tomorrow Night's Big

1006
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: Ten Indiana hosting Penn State at eight thirty tomorrow night.

1007
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: There you go. Kevin's what's going on? And rest on

1008
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: that one? He said what he had to say. He's

1009
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: taking a drink of water.

1010
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 9: He's got to get ready to give his thoughts on

1011
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 9: the Notre Dame football team.

1012
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: I do so for an hour. I'm gonna let you go.

1013
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: You might want to take another sip of that water,

1014
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: because I've seen you worked up out in the coffee

1015
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: hall too. We'll do it all next ninety three five,

1016
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: one oh seven five the fan.

1017
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 7: And Mendoza takes the stat wants to throw it, fires

1018
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 7: a down of the field that's free. Elijah Soronti makes

1019
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 7: the touch touch step here like the serete seventeen yard.

1020
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 8: Pick for to day, and Indiana's back on top.

1021
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: Indiana would stay on top after a late missed field

1022
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: goal by Ohio State and just unbelievable defensive play throughout

1023
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: the game. Indiana goes on to win the Big Ten

1024
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 1: championship thirteen to ten. They are the number one seed.

1025
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: Let's say that again, Kevin Bowen. They are the number

1026
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: one seed in the college football playoff in twenty twenty five.

1027
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 9: Waffle house, Right, yeah, open, twenty four to seven.

1028
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 4: Right waffle house. What they call Elijah Sarat fifty to

1029
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 4: fifty is eighty twenty when you throw it to hand.

1030
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 4: That play looks so much like the Oregon play from

1031
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 4: earlier this season. Third and eight south, the Ohio State

1032
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 4: corners shift onto Sarat right before the start of that

1033
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 4: play did not matter, back shoulder sarat and making that

1034
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 4: play looking back like his healthy self there all right.

1035
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 1: So they are the number one seed in the college

1036
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: football playoffs, which were announced yesterday just after noon. The

1037
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: top four seeds, it'll get a buy. Indiana Ohio State

1038
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 1: is number two, Georgia three, Texas Tech four. I keep

1039
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: looking up and down even this morning, knowing what I know,

1040
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: and I see jmw in, I see Tulane in and

1041
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 1: I get how they got in. I don't like the setup,

1042
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: but that's how it works. Whatever. But then I see

1043
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: three loss Alabama in who's lost two of their last

1044
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: four games, lost by three touchdowns to Georgia in the

1045
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: conference championship. And if you want to go all the

1046
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: way back to the beginning of the year, which the

1047
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: committee didn't have a problem going back and look at

1048
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: the Miami Notre Dame game to see what they saw

1049
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: in the first game of the season, Florida State was

1050
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: a two touchdown winner over Alabama. Other than name recognition

1051
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 1: in the fact that there's a heavy, heavy SEC bias

1052
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 1: on these things, how the heck is Alabama in over

1053
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: Notre Dame at this point in time, Jeff, what is

1054
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: the committee's job to get the twelve best teams into

1055
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 1: this football playoff under the criteria they set, which includes

1056
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 1: JMU and Tulane and their paths to get in. Fine whatever,

1057
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: I don't agree with it, But outside of that, it's

1058
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: to find the best football teams and rank them in order.

1059
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: You cannot tell me that Notre Dame, who by the way,

1060
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: went from number nine in their own rankings to all

1061
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: of a sudden, they went one spot behind Alabama before

1062
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: the conference championship games, didn't play a conference championship game

1063
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: while Alabama got beat by three touchdowns and then go

1064
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: I was from being number nine in their rankings to

1065
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: out all together.

1066
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I knew Notre Dame was screwed a few weeks

1067
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 4: back when the committee chair on live television did the

1068
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 4: six to seventh thing. That's that's his legacy. By the way,

1069
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 4: as soon as I saw him, I said, they are

1070
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 4: literally bleeped. There is no chance in hell this thing

1071
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 4: is going to run smoothly here over the next few weeks.

1072
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 4: In the history of the college football Playoff, which again

1073
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 4: expands back over a decade, we've obviously had the four

1074
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 4: team playoff, before that. Alabama is the only team to

1075
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 4: lose on conference championship week and not move back. Notre

1076
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 4: Dame the only team in that top twenty five poll

1077
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:41,919
Speaker 4: yesterday to have not played this weekend and move back

1078
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 4: Alabama to me is the bigger gripe. Two weeks ago,

1079
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 4: you had Notre Dame ranked higher than Alabama. What's happened

1080
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 4: since then? Okay, Notre Dame went on the road one

1081
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 4: by thirty over an ACC team in Stanford, Alabama. Over

1082
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Speaker 4: the last two weeks. You just brought up what the

1083
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 4: did in the SEC championship game. They had negative rushing yards,

1084
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 4: by the way, in the SEC Championship game, negative rushing

1085
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 4: yards and their quarterback was awf lit in the game.

1086
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 4: The week before that, they beat Auburn, who had one

1087
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 4: SEC win. That one SEC win was over an Arkansas

1088
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 4: team who happened to be the Committee Chairs team while

1089
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 4: the Committee chair, the ad for Arkansas had to all

1090
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 4: of a sudden fire his head coach this season. Which

1091
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 4: game was that after when Notre Dame went to Arkansas

1092
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 4: and won by forty earlier this season? So Alabama in

1093
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 4: two weeks they beat one SEC win Auburn, and if

1094
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 4: anybody watched that game. They watched Auburn have seven to

1095
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 4: eight drops in that game. Then they go the SEC

1096
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 4: Championship game, they get absolutely dog walked out of the

1097
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 4: Georgia Dome, just get rolled and again negative rushing yards

1098
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 4: for the game. And yet in the first time in

1099
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 4: eleven years, we have a team lose on championship weekend

1100
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 4: and not drop in the rankings at all. That makes

1101
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 4: absolutely zero sense to me. We had the committee chair

1102
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Speaker 4: last night again, Hunter, you're a check. I believe his

1103
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 4: name is Arkansas d He is bringing up some of

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00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 4: Alabama's wins from earlier this season with teams that were

1105
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 4: previously ranked in the top twenty five since win is

1106
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 4: that part of the criteria? Because Notre Dame has several

1107
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 4: wins this season where those teams were ranked at the time,

1108
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,439
Speaker 4: and then they fell out of the rankings largely due

1109
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 4: to Notre Dame and those teams beating them. So that

1110
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 4: made zero sense for me. And I still have the

1111
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 4: Miami gripe. When the polls were debuted whatever it was

1112
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 4: a month ago, Notre Dame was eight spots ahead of

1113
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 4: Miami eight eight spots in that time. Notre Dame did this,

1114
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 4: They won by thirty nine over a nine win team.

1115
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 4: The next week they go on the road to play

1116
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 4: an eight win ACC team, they win by twenty two.

1117
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 4: Next week they play another ACC team, they win by

1118
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 4: sixty three points, and then that last game of the season,

1119
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 4: like I just mentioned, they win by thirty over another

1120
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 4: ACC team on the road. So in four weeks Notre

1121
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 4: Dame eight spot lead on Miami. They win by thirty

1122
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 4: nine over a nine win team, twenty two on the

1123
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 4: road over an eight win team, sixty three over another

1124
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 4: ACC team, and then thirty over another ACC team on

1125
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 4: the road. Four wins two over former top twenty five

1126
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 4: teams by thirty eight points per game, and that eight

1127
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 4: spot lead turns into a loss. It becomes a nine

1128
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 4: spot difference with Miami jumping them in the final poll.

1129
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 4: It make no sense to me whatsoever on how Alabama

1130
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 4: or Miami, based off the rankings that we have seen

1131
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 4: with the committee over the last month, how it plays

1132
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 4: out in that manner. When Duke one Saturday night, I

1133
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 4: thought out because I thought to myself, there's no way

1134
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 4: they're going to leave the ACC fully out. And for

1135
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:10,479
Speaker 4: those that weren't totally following Duke at whatever they were

1136
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 4: seven and five were not going to be ranked higher

1137
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 4: than James Madison. So James Madison was going to get

1138
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 4: the last automatic berth, which meant that because the ACC

1139
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 4: is too dumb to have Miami in their conference championship game,

1140
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 4: which they should have had in the first.

1141
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 1: Place, terrible tie breaking.

1142
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 4: If the ACC puts Miami in the conference title game

1143
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 4: based off the tie breaking rules, which should be on

1144
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 4: the selection committee's rankings, then Miami theoretically win Saturday Night,

1145
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 4: they get the automatic berth, and now we have Alabama, Miami,

1146
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 4: and Notre Dame all in the playoff.

1147
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, which that should be. They screwed the whole thing up.

1148
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: But I also think there's an element of we know

1149
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: that this committee is largely influenced by the SEC and

1150
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: certainly to an extent, by the Big Ten. There's no

1151
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: question about that. And I know for a fact that

1152
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, because I've talked to some of these

1153
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: peoples over the years, these conferences do not like the

1154
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: fact that Notre Dame has been independent. They have their

1155
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: own network deal. They don't have to share any of

1156
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: their their turn their basketball tournament revenues, any of their

1157
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: their TV revenues with any of the other teams. It's

1158
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: long been a source of consternation from from from conferences

1159
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 1: like the SEC. They couldn't wait behind those closed doors

1160
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: to having an excuse to say, oh, sorry, you're not

1161
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: going to take any of our money, You're not going

1162
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 1: to share in any of our stuff. You don't want

1163
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: to be a part of a conference and share your stuff. Well,

1164
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: this is going to be part of that consequence. I

1165
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: don't care what anybody says. I'm not the biggest conspiracy

1166
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: theory guy in the world. There is no way that

1167
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: didn't play a large part in why Notre Dame. To

1168
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: your point, Kevin, there is no logical way for them

1169
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: to have dropped in the rankings the way they did,

1170
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: just based on what you outlined right there, other than

1171
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: the fact that we don't have to share with you,

1172
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: and this is how we're going to justify it. And

1173
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of what we're

1174
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 1: doing in the future, why don't you hurry up and

1175
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: go go ahead and try to join a conference where're

1176
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: tire of sharing our money with you? Mister independent.

1177
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 4: Now again, I firmly believe Notre Dame should have been

1178
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 4: in I've got grape like I just laid out over

1179
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 4: both Bama and Miami, but I will repeat what I

1180
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 4: said late last week. When you are ten and two,

1181
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 4: you're not bulletproof. And Notre Dame lost to Miami in

1182
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 4: text A and M and part of Notre Dame not

1183
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 4: being in a conference. I don't necessarily think this means

1184
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 4: they should join a conference. Let me be clear, but

1185
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 4: part of not being in a conference means the start

1186
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 4: of your season will be front loaded. You'll have Miami

1187
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 4: in text A and m out of the gate. So

1188
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 4: when you do and you're starting a freshman quarterback and

1189
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 4: you're bringing in a new defensive coordinator, be wary because

1190
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 4: if those games don't go your way as you're easing

1191
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 4: into the season, it might come back to bite you.

1192
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 4: And that is the reality of where they're at from

1193
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 4: the schedule they obviously want at Texas A and m

1194
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago to start the season. That

1195
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 4: I do think is a very real factor that Notre

1196
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 4: Dame has got to live with and that more of

1197
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 4: these are not going to want to play you in

1198
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 4: October and November and interrupt their conference schedule, So that

1199
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 4: means August and September is going to matter more for you.

1200
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 4: And if you watch a Miami text A and m game,

1201
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 4: Notre Dame had growing pains. They didn't TRUSTEJ. Carr in

1202
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 4: the Miami game. Their defense looked awful against tex A

1203
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 4: and m Now they lost by four points total. They

1204
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 4: easily could have won both of those games. But that

1205
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 4: is the reality of where Notre Dame is that right now,

1206
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 4: haven't said that. I thought that committee chair is an

1207
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 4: absolute jackass moron.

1208
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 9: He's kind of just a meat shield for the whole process.

1209
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 9: I mean, he is the face of it all, and

1210
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 9: he doesn't help himself by the comments he says. But

1211
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 9: I think the larger problem, Kevin is the other people

1212
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 9: in that room too. Everybody's abiding by this process that

1213
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 9: is obviously flawed. And that's just the one guy that

1214
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 9: gets to go on ESPN and answer good questions from

1215
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 9: Rhys Davis and good pointed questions, and he.

1216
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 4: Looks terrible when he answers those questions.

1217
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:54,919
Speaker 3: Again.

1218
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 4: The goal is to get the best, let's call it whatever,

1219
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 4: ten teams. If you want to know, group of five,

1220
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 4: I've put them to their I'm fine with having one

1221
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 4: Cinderella in the in the in the twelve team field,

1222
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 4: by computer tests, by eye test, Notre Dame is easily

1223
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 4: one of the ten bests. Jeff on Sunday morning. If

1224
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 4: you looked at the National Championship odds, Notre Dame was

1225
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 4: fourth on that list. You ask any of these teams

1226
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 4: that made the field, they don't want to see Notre

1227
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 4: Dame get you leave them out?

1228
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: Are you not getting an argument for me? I'm gonna

1229
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: let it sit right there.

1230
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 9: Are you okay with them leaving or withdrawing from the

1231
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 9: bowl game?

1232
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not ready for that one yet. Maybe maybe

1233
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 4: sometime in the nine o'clock hour we can.

1234
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: That really goes back to what I was talking about

1235
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: that name telling the folks at ESPN who were in

1236
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: bed with the guys from the SEC and everybody else

1237
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: for bowl games. Well, you're not gonna get us to

1238
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: profit off it. Here's the other thing about bowl games.

1239
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: Schools don't make money from most bowl games.

1240
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, Caleb, I I don't love love it, but I

1241
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 4: also think it's in the tad overblown in this twenty

1242
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 4: twenty five era of jewels. I mean, Notre Dames played

1243
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 4: in two bulls under Marcus Freeman when they didn't make

1244
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 4: the playoffs. It's not like Notre Dame annually. Besides, hey,

1245
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 4: we're not gonna play in the bowl game. Because to

1246
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 4: sum up what Notre Dame football has had to deal

1247
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 4: with in a bowl game recently, Sam Hartman decided to

1248
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 4: opt out of a bowl game. Sam hart When when

1249
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 4: Sam Hartman, future seventh round NFL draft pick is opting

1250
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 4: out of a bowl game? We have issues with bulls.

1251
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: In the year of twenty three twelve, just had to

1252
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: find Iowa State in Kansas State because they decided to

1253
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: not take invitations to bowl games. Iowa State saying, not

1254
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: only do we have a bunch of players hurt, but

1255
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: we don't have a head coach right now either. Yeah,

1256
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: ball games aren't what they used to be. Coming up

1257
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: at a moment, we'll take some of your feedback again

1258
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: on the text line and the fan calling line. Two three, nine,

1259
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: ten seventy is the number. Will do it. As we

1260
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: continue on a Monday morning,