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Speaker 1: It is that different quarterback Daniel Jones. Has Daniel Jones

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Speaker 2: if you go with Anthony and it's it's you know,

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Speaker 2: with Daniel and you know it's struggling the talent, you're

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Speaker 2: opportunity and it's just the way it shakes out.

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Speaker 1: Dani Arlovsky our guest. One other thing, Dan, I appreciate

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Speaker 1: your time. I know you're a busy guy. I did

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Speaker 1: want to get this from you. Of the thirty two

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks that start in the NFL, how many of them

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Speaker 1: truly do have that computer mind where they walk up

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Speaker 1: and instantly can recognize a defensive stuff or whatever.

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Speaker 2: It might be.

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Speaker 1: I mean theoretically, because we're here in Indianapolis and we're saying,

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Speaker 1: look Andrew luck at a Peyton Manning had Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, two of the biggest savants of all time. Realistically,

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Speaker 1: in your opinion, dan Arlovsky, you played in the NFLin

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Speaker 1: that we're Anthony Richardson or Daniel Jones to.

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Speaker 2: Be right now, I'd probably give you twelve to fourteen.

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Speaker 2: You know, easily comfortably that are that are capable of

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Speaker 2: and fixing it. Twelve to fourteen at a minimum would

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Speaker 1: And is that pretty you think part for the course?

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Speaker 1: is it at any time? Is that realistically what you're

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Speaker 2: Basically, Yeah, I think I would say that's probably consistently

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Speaker 2: what it is. You know, it depends on you know,

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Speaker 2: obviously how many rookies are playing and with style of

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Speaker 2: of offences. But I think you know you're you're talking

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Speaker 2: probably closer to half of the league truly being consistently

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Speaker 2: capable of handling that again.

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Speaker 1: The article right now up in ESPN dot com, ranking

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Speaker 1: NFL quarterbacks by trade best, arm accuracy and more from

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Speaker 1: Dan Arlovsky breaking down arm strength, ball placement, mechanics, decision making,

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Speaker 1: pocket presence, rushing ability, second reaction, all of it. Great breakdown, Dan,

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Speaker 1: Appreciate the time and you got to get in there,

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Speaker 1: but certainly appreciate you letting us chat you up today

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Speaker 1: and really good perspective.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Bud. I appreciate you having me.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it, Dan ar Lofsky joining us from ESPN.

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Speaker 1: Really good stuff