WEBVTT - House of the Dragon - "The Dragon in Winter” (S3, E7) 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:10.360 The Frames per Second Podcast. What's going on in shit Boy? 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:10.680 Nick? 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:13.840 I am here with the rights Missus, NATURALI NEE and 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:14.480 Modest Media. 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:15.080 How y'all doing? 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:15.680 All right? 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:16.680 What's up? What's up? 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:19.720 I'm here with I am Spikelu of the A Deck 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:21.240 TV show and another week in the books? 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:22.440 How you doing, sir? What up? 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:22.640 Dough? 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:27.960 And Mike C Town Yo and of course Kenneth B 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:29.920 and how you doing? Man? Hello? 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:33.279 And you now tune into the frames per Second Podcast? 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:35.800 And in this episode, we are continuing on with our 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:40.440 weekly recaps of the hit HBO Max original series coming 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:42.800 from the Game of Thrones universe titled House of the Dragon, 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:46.400 with this recap being dedicated to episode well, season three, 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:50.600 episode seven titled The Dragon in Winter. We got a 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:52.760 lot to discuss, as y'all know, this is my favorite 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:56.720 episode of a season, the penn ultimate episode. But I 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:58.840 got to start off with a person who wasn't with 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:02.200 us in the last recap. Mike definitely wanted to get 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:04.399 your thoughts on last episode and what you thought about 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:06.240 this episode, of course, so I'll start off with you. 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:12.399 Last week's was great. I thought, I really really enjoyed it. 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:17.319 I especially enjoyed seeing Christian Cole spitch ass get done up. 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:20.839 That ship was lovely. I wasn't expecting that at all. 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:27.399 I literally said, oh when the first arrow hit that ship, 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:34.200 I was shit, that's a way to go out like 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:34.959 a little simp. 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:37.480 And he's holding her a little little rat. That was 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:39.080 what it was, Mike, It was. It was. 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:40.679 It was that because I thought I was he was 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:42.880 gonna go out like a g when he pulled it out, like, 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:45.320 at least he going out like a g bro. He 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:47.319 was already talking about some fight me two on one 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:48.760 with my hand tied behind my back. 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:51.960 I was like, nigga, get the fuck shot up in 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:52.680 the eye. 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:54.600 So I was like, this is a lovely way to 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.160 start an episode, and then it was an awful way 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:59.840 to end it because my boy, my boy got stashed up. 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.800 But no, last week's was great and this week's was great. 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:08.079 I'm here. This is shaping up now. The only thing 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:10.400 that concerns me is we have one episode left, so 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:14.160 that means we're going to be left on a huge cliffhanger, 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:17.680 which I don't really like, but it is what it is. 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:19.720 I want to bring that point up again later on 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:22.160 because I don't think it'll be that huge of a 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:25.480 cliffhanger for how much went down this episode. 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.760 But Lou, I want to get your overall thoughts on 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:28.519 this episode. 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:32.399 Good episode man, Like you said the last two weeks 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:34.520 for good set up episodes, I feel like a lot 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:38.399 of payoffs came in this episode. Also, it's set up 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:42.160 for good for the season finale. Some of the things 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:45.200 that we've been guessing at we've gotten to see play out. 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:51.320 Yeah, I thought this is a good episode. Now you agree, Yeah, it. 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:52.880 Was a good episode. 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.320 I think what you said we talked about, like the 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:00.000 fact that we only have one more left and there's 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:04.920 still so many different little subplots that need to come together. 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:09.560 I think that I was left a little I don't 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:10.560 know if anxious is the. 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:13.760 Right word, underwhelmed is the right word, but I was 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:15.560 just kind of like, how are they gonna close this 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:16.280 season out? 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:19.639 But other than that, I thought it was really good. 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:21.119 Right. 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.200 Are you in agreement as far as like thinking that 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.480 there's gonna be a big, huge cliffhanger even though we 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:29.200 all know we have a fourth season that I think 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:32.040 is the final season to come, so of course we 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:34.359 still have to have things for that stuff to happen. 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:36.920 But with this season, do you think they'll stick the laning. 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:40.120 Yeah, I think it'll be a big cliff hanger, but 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:43.120 for some reason, I think it'll be a satisfying cliffhanger. 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:47.240 So I think I'm more along with Spike, like the 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:48.960 setup paid off to. 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:53.280 Right now, and I think it's gonna close really well 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:57.000 without it, you know what I'm saying, with good anticipation 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.000 for the next season, especially if this is going to 0:03:59.040 --> 0:03:59.840 be the last season. 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.680 So I'm not I don't mind us getting. 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:05.840 To a to a place where it's like, dang, I 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.200 can't wait to see what happened next, as long as 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:11.240 it's not annoyingly like that. I don't think it will be. 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:13.560 I think I think I think it'll be a solid, 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:15.920 a solid season closer. 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:21.000 What are you all over our thoughts? Cam? 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:25.240 I'm ready, man, I'm ready for next week. I think 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:28.320 it's gonna be really good. I think this episode did 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.159 a good job of building up anticipation for me. 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:32.320 So I thought this was. 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.520 Really really great and they did a good job of 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:36.679 setting the board. 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:40.240 So yeah, I enjoyed it. 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:43.800 I enjoyed this episode too. I thought this definitely was 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:45.680 like a wake up call to a lot of characters. 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:49.200 I think a lot of them got cussed out, either 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:52.280 politely or just blatantly in this episode. 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:53.320 And we'll get to it. 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:58.279 And I'm gonna break this this recap up into like 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:00.400 sections of like let's just talk about how everything went 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:04.200 down to each section to cover it all. So we 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:07.280 start off this episode with us viewing Helene and one 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:10.400 of her coke dreams. But then she's woken up, like 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:14.160 really quickly by Rania, who interrogates her about, you know, 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:17.560 being a dreamer. Quote unquote, Mike, what did you think 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:18.599 about this opening scene? 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:22.640 I don't know. 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:27.000 Kicking off with a dream is fine. The dreams were 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:30.560 kind of weird. I don't I'm hoping y'all can explain 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:33.880 what they meant, because the only thing I got is 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:35.279 that Helena asked about to die. 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:37.320 But I don't know that's right. 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:41.360 But I mean, yeah, it was. It was a nice 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:42.719 way to kick it off. I'm just not sure what 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:44.000 those dreams meant. 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:45.919 And you're talking about all the dreams too, right with 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:48.440 her on the dragon, her giving birth, and her being 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:51.640 at that farm when the winter's the birth. 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:55.000 One was kind of self explanatory. But being on that 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:58.000 farm feeding chickens and shit. I was like, I don't understand, 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.040 what what are we doing right now? And then it 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:03.320 was like the sun was going down in the background. 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:05.360 It was like a weird color. I just think she's 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:06.000 about to die. 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:09.719 Well, you remember she said that earlier in the seasons, 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:10.800 that's what she wanted to do. 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.600 There was no gosh, I don't remember. You have to 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:16.080 that's what we need you for. Man, I don't remember 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:16.440 it all. 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:17.400 So what happened? 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:19.520 She said that that was one of her dreams. When 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:22.080 I asked what she wanted to do, like go be 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:24.920 on a farm and raise chickens. Of course she said 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:28.440 that specific right. Still to your point, you're right, like, 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:32.240 I don't know what it means, but it's clearly stating 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:35.279 at something because she said this earlier this season about 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:36.560 wanting to feed the chickens and stuff. 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:43.560 Okay, Lou, how did you take Brenera in the beginning 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:48.600 of this episode? Well, in what sense as far as 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:51.360 her interrogating Elena and how aggressive she was. 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:55.120 Stupid like she's been the whole season, like she trying 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:58.720 to get something from her, but she pressing her in 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:01.160 a man like ain't no out of there to play good? Cop, 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:03.760 Like she's just being a bad cop and you're trying 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:04.800 to get information from her. 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:05.880 She's not gonna give it to you. 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:09.039 She think you crazy, like you literally came here through 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:12.000 her family off the throne. Now you got her held hostage. 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:13.840 You're trying to take her kid, or her at least 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.560 her mom telling you gonna take her kid. And you 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:22.960 can't even figure out a way to be like peaceful 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.680 enough for her to be manipulated into telling you what 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:26.560 she's thinking, like. 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:29.320 You just full force go with it. So it's stupid 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:30.200 on right here. As far. 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:39.600 You feel like she woke up later like ghost did Tarik. 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:45.120 Nah for sure, Like yeah, it was a little annoying, 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.840 like she just has no no. 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:49.600 Real like. 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.520 Yeah, yeah, she has no tack man. So it's just 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:58.280 like you're just like just frustrated with it. And I've 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:01.920 never been this frustrated with her. Always liked the personally. 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:04.800 But now yeah, they are, they are making. 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:07.000 Her out to be just the just the fuck up 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:10.360 all those As far as the dreams and stuff, I 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:14.120 thought the winter is coming thing was pretty pretty self 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:16.560 explanatory when you say the sun was going down and 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:17.080 the snows. 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.440 I know, I'm used to it, Nick, I'm used to it. 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:26.280 They both got me like that yesterday. Nick. It's not 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:28.800 I know, because. 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.280 I don't know the baby one that you said, I don't. 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:30.560 I don't. 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:33.760 That's the one that I didn't know, the baby one, 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:35.840 but I did. I did figure that the last one 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:37.720 was more about the winner's common type of thing. 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.000 So yeah, well, the baby one, I assume it's just 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:43.920 she's afraid that when she gives birth, they're gonna kill 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:44.280 the baby. 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:45.240 That one was easy for me. 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:48.000 It was the other stuff that it was the chicken 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:49.360 thing that I just didn't understand. 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:49.880 I didn't. 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:52.920 I wasn't think about the weather part, the winter. I 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.000 didn't even I thought it was ash. 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:58.719 With my stupid ass, so I thought like it was 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:00.240 the dragons like the ash. 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.199 Yeah, that's what I thought it was. I didn't even 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:04.120 realize it was winter. Jill Rod said it because she 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:04.800 didn't looked cold. 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:10.079 Yeah, either, because the same thing happened to daddy when 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:12.080 she was somewhere and she had those visitors. It was 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:13.800 ash falling down and people thought it was snow. 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:18.120 There you go, see, I'm not that dumb. 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:24.120 Rode. 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.960 Did you do you feel like Grena is starting to 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:30.640 show her true self or has she been altered like 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:32.960 Helena mentioned in that scene. 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.280 I think both can be true. 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:42.360 I think that her situation is amplifying who she has kind. 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:43.280 Of been all along. 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:49.319 I feel that I kind of echo Rod, like I'm 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:53.360 I'm teamer Nira, I've been team Raniera, and this episode 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:56.040 was the first time I was like, damn, I think 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:59.320 she might have got it wrong all this time, like 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:02.440 like even down to jays and and him not wanting 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:06.280 her to get the bastards to ride the dragon. I'm like, damn, 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:08.400 I feel like you should have been listening to these 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:11.680 other folks this whole time there, and it's now all 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.120 starting to fall apart in front of your face, and 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.760 you losing it and trying to shape these dreams out 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.840 of slow ass and like, what are you doing when 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:20.640 you losing it? 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:21.760 Yeah? 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:22.720 I think she was desperate. 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:25.200 I think a lot of decisions that she makes out 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:30.880 of desperation, and it's clouding, clouding her choices. 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.040 Yeah, that's. 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.280 The state that they've had her in all seasons, and 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:40.480 I just don't like it. I don't think that she's 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:43.520 been there the previous two seasons that we've been watching 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:46.319 is but this season in particular, like every episode, I 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:49.360 feel like we talked about just her level of angst 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.200 and desperation and like she's just doing stuff off the custom. 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:55.680 It just don't it don't seem right. It don't seem 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:57.600 like she's gonna win this way He's. 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:01.960 I think I think my thing with Grenier is that 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.000 I have like empathy for it because I keep thinking 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:07.280 about how she's lost children and this whole thing. I 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:10.160 think we forget that she that she that she lost 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:13.040 his children, and she's she's, uh, she's responding off of 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:17.840 emotion because of that. So she's just so that just 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.000 feeling like something was taken from her, for like the 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.520 throne was just taken from hers. So I think all 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.800 of those things coupled together is like kind of altering 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:26.760 her decisions. 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:29.560 Do you ever wonder how much she actually cares that 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:32.199 she lost her kids. I was, I haven't really questioned 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.600 that until this episode. I was like, I don't know 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.360 how much she really cares about that. It seems like 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:42.000 she cares more about revenge for losing her kids and 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:43.720 getting the thrown back. 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:47.240 And I think that speaks to a little bit last week, Mike, 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:49.800 when we were talking about you I know you weren't 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.040 here when her son came back and they were telling 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:53.640 her age such and such as back. 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:56.720 I think it was it's Jeoffrey. Yes, Jeoffrey's back and 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.800 he wants to see you. She didn't care. I won't 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:00.680 say she didn't care. 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:02.719 I just think it's like she just lost so much 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.319 she doesn't want to She's scared to get attached to them. 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.640 I think right now, Nay, I don't know if you 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:10.040 agree with this point, but like her justification for all 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:11.840 the things she's done is the fact, like this is 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.400 this all has to mean something like I can't have 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:16.559 their death mean nothing. 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:16.959 I don't know. 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:20.120 I think it's a combination between revenge and just being 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.960 right as far as like my dad told me, I 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.400 was the heir, I have the bloodline, I am a 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.400 targe area, and I was able to get the kings land, 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:29.520 like I have to justify the fact that I'm supposed 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.719 to be here because everybody, because I've been planning to 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:33.680 be here my whole life, no matter what I've lost, 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:34.760 I have to prove that I'm here. 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.520 Yeah, I think, and I think you can even go 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:41.320 back further, like this all started with her mother's death 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:43.960 like her mother died giving in it, trying to get 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:45.640 birth to an air to the throne. 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:48.400 So she's trying to make all of this makes sense. 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:50.920 And I think that, yeah, to your point, I don't 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:53.800 think it's so much that she doesn't care about the 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:55.959 fact that she's lost children. It's just, you know how people 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.960 be so hurt that they just become angry and just 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:01.640 bitter people. I think that's where she is. She's been 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:05.760 driven by the vengeance because she is so hurt by 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:06.680 all of the losses. 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:10.679 She's in the work and Ken, I forgot the last 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:14.439 episode she pricked her finger on the throne and Lou, 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.959 I think that's an omen for like some bad stuff 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:17.720 is about happen. 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:22.280 You mean the throne not accepting your ruler ship. You 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:25.840 sul just pricked Jeoffrey all the time, and it was 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:27.800 somebody else, might have been the Mad King. 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:30.320 You ever, Saiah's got he got pricked and mad King 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.800 got pricked as well. I don't remember Jeoffrey, I believe Spike, 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:38.360 but I don't remember that. Can Did you see what 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:43.480 Helena was sewing in bed? No? 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:48.360 You know, and maybe at some point Ranera will fear 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:51.640 that that out, But I doubt it. I think she's 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:55.079 trying to force answers out her for her out of 0:13:55.840 --> 0:14:00.280 clear frustration, and she just fat up and I think 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:01.960 it's gonna send her over the edge. 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:04.680 And we we. 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:06.920 I think we got a preview of that earlier when 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:09.440 she was trying to shake the ship out of Elena 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.920 until she got that kung fu grip and then she. 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:14.959 Kind of let go and walked away. 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:19.360 But but yeah, I think that's I think that's what 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:23.360 I think Elena, I mean, not Elena, but Ranera is 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:30.320 turning and. 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:28.880 We'll see where it goes. 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:34.400 But she's being forced into this person that she clearly 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:35.280 does not want to be. 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.680 But it's almost like she's left no other choice. 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:42.320 And the other thing I was trying to figure out 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:47.040 is like, does does Elena have a dragon already? 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.720 Yeah? She did. Frustrated, she don't want to she never 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:52.840 wrote it. Yeah, she don't want to ride herself. She 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:56.560 liked Ranier a dad. Is that why she said that 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:57.800 slow extra cars? 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:01.440 Yeah, don't don't have no she has no practice in 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:05.240 riding her drag. You asked him just now, did he 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:08.520 pay attention to the thing that she was making it 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.960 a big Yeah. The tapestry. How realistic y'all think it 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:13.440 ain't nobody paid attentions. 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:19.560 I think it's very realistic because she is yeah, well 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:23.120 well that and just Ranera is not. Ever, she never 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:26.840 slows down enough to think about shit like and and 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:29.640 I think Allison thinks she's crazy. 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:31.720 She's probably not really looking at it like that. 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.480 And plus, I mean to be honest, if it's the same, 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:38.160 if it's the same tapestry that we're seeing every day 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:43.320 or every episode or whatever, that shit is confusing as 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:47.280 fuck to me. Anyway, I can't follow it. Stop doing that. 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:53.240 I can see your face now, your camera over you 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.240 given you've given him all the looks. 0:15:55.000 --> 0:16:01.880 Of the teacher, like a teacher trying to got a kids. 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:03.720 It was like she had a pole baby sign. 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:07.440 It was like it was like she was holding up 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:09.400 the pole baby sign. 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:11.120 That's not what it was. 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.240 So that you got to answer, you figured it out. 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:19.640 My question was I was gonna ask, is that supposed 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:22.000 Is that supposed to be alluding to the fact that 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:23.080 it's Aiming's baby. 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:25.920 I thought she said it was, did she didn't they 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:27.600 say that episode before last? 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:30.560 I don't think we know what daddy is. 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:35.240 The baby daddy is the burnt up Oh, I get 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.600 aiming and agon mixed up? Which one is the burnt 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:42.080 up face? Say? 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:44.600 Did she? I thought? 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:48.440 I'm assuming that the tapestry is like aiming in in the. 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:54.520 Mom But I think the tapestry is her hm trying 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:57.080 to convey the events that she's seeing in her dreams 0:16:57.120 --> 0:17:00.640 and they're happening beforehand and it's right there. 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:04.000 And people can have access to them and see them, 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:11.080 but nobody knows what the fuck they are. Yes, that's crazy, 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:12.960 that's crazy. 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:16.680 But the crazy thing is I think Allison is aware 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:19.080 that she can see the future. But I think it's 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.880 just like again, you just don't want to look exactly, 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:24.680 just like Banier. It's like it's not a you asked 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:26.800 the question, you get an answer. It's like you really 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.520 got to like just read the room, no pun intended, 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:31.520 Like you have to really just follow and just try 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:35.280 to put the pieces together. Because what Ranier was like, 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:37.600 all right, so what's up with aim and where he at? 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:37.800 All? 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:37.960 Right? 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:40.760 What about the White Wolves and some other ship? And 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:41.919 Helena is like nigga. 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:47.520 I don't say exactly what it seems like someone, but 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:49.800 I guess either Mike or and they said that no 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:51.840 one's really paying enough attention to her to be like, 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:54.400 what is this that you're doing? What does this mean? 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:58.679 What does this mean? What does this mean? Everybody talking 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:04.080 riddles because she talking riddles? Can't something got to her? 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:06.600 But everything on the show is a riddle, though, Like 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:09.480 everything is a damn riddle. Like they listen to this 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:12.119 song of Ice and Fire ship. That shit's a fucking riddle. 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:14.440 So it's like, why wouldn't they listen to Helena or 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:15.920 at least give it a shot. 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:20.080 Yeah, just the lack of interest in her is is 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:25.000 pretty telling to me, especially now that you have someone 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:27.800 who is paying attention to her and nar and she's 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:29.800 just like trying to force it out of versus like 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:32.800 having a genuine observation, which I feel like a lot 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:37.200 of Game of Thrones characters would have, because. 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:38.680 She's desperate for answer. 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:41.080 Yeah, yeah, she needs the answers now. She can't wait. 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:45.280 I mean they're on that, so okay, so she's she's 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:49.439 making the tapestry, so every week we're seeing the tapestry 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:50.760 in real time. 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:54.800 I guess, yeah on the opening credits, So I'm. 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:56.480 Kind of, yeah, this doesn't really make any sense that 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:57.960 they wouldn't look at the tapestry. 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:01.160 She has to be spending hell of time. What else 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:01.800 does she do? 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:05.840 She don't think nothing else that somebody at some point 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:07.920 would be like, well, what are you doing right there? 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:10.679 At least that's what I would think. They deserve what 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:12.560 they get if they're not paying attention. 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:15.359 Like that, y'all know, y'all got and damn, well, won't 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:18.520 be looking at that. Damn I'd have been looking at that. 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:20.080 Damn if I'm there. 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:23.480 Hen, that's the only thing she do can every scene? 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:25.320 She got that in her hand, Yep. 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:28.560 But y'all, yeah, I don't. I think that's pretty true 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:29.000 to life. 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:32.479 Like it's like you can have like a kid whatever, 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:34.520 shut the kid up and keep them from act. 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:37.040 That's what we're gonna do. 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:41.040 And in the point, you know they point, leave them 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:42.440 alone and keep them moving. 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:47.880 Yeah. But when she when she, I forget, who said, oh, 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:53.879 she's a dreamer? Like? Is that that I think it 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:56.159 was that I looked at like a. 0:19:56.240 --> 0:20:00.280 Dreamer is an actual thing in Game of Thrones, correct 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:02.000 me from wrong, Spike. So it kind of means that 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:05.000 they are they can see the future, put to a 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:06.240 certain degree. 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:10.200 So the second she said, oh, she must be a dreamer. 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:13.720 She should have immediately went and said, okay, let me 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:16.520 see these pictures you've been drawn. Let me go see 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:19.400 what you've been putting together. It's just Ranera's not thinking. 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:22.479 I get why other people like Damon and them wouldn't 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:26.120 think about this, But Ranera, if you're so desperate, why 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:28.520 wouldn't you be like, well, let me see what you 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:34.359 got on this damn tapageing. 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:34.720 What questions the. 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:37.720 Question she's asking her like she's the only one that's 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:40.640 literally asking her questions no one else was asking. Remember 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:42.960 it was a complaint of ours at first, like man, 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:47.440 ain't nobody paying attention to her? But now Banera's actually like, yo, no, okay, yeah, 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:50.200 I know you know some shit like tell me instead 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:51.160 of looking at the Temple Street. 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:53.200 She's just like tell me, and when and when. 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:56.200 She rushed it. 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:59.040 Yeah, I think both of y'all are right, because she's 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:01.680 like she knows it, like Rod saying, but to Mike's point, 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:03.480 she like trying to rush it out and like it 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:07.520 don't work that way, and she should know that based 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:10.440 off her whole thing to want to be the princess 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:13.080 and the little thing that's on the dagger that got 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:15.600 the writing on there with her, Like the whole premise 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:18.399 of her being Queen was when her dad told her, like, 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:20.120 you got to be here when the White Walkers come. 0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:23.399 So you would think that she would be very sensitive 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:26.520 to Helena's dreams versus trying to rush them out. 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:30.399 You would love to have more content from frames per second. 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:32.959 Become a patron where you can contribute to what we 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:36.240 review and discuss. 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Yeah, exactly, we see 0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:21.280 some uh some other things go down. 0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:24.960 Uh. I think we can discuss in the sensitive matter 0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:31.320 now I'm gonna start with you because I. 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:32.120 Was curious to think. 0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:35.040 What was your takeaway from the scene when Aimin is 0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:37.600 dreaming about his mother returning to him. 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:41.359 I'm so glad that it was a dream, but I 0:22:41.400 --> 0:22:42.160 still could have. 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:42.879 Done without that. 0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:44.680 They didn't. 0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:47.399 They went, they went far. They they they almost didn't 0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:48.600 like passions. 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:57.600 I was taking. I literally was like, no screen. I 0:22:57.720 --> 0:22:59.760 was very taken aback. I mean, I knew he had 0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:02.479 my issues, but and I mean we knew that, Like 0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:06.159 they could have showed that without showing it. But I 0:23:06.200 --> 0:23:08.440 know Rod asked Me's like, so she ain't a witch. 0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:10.080 I still don't think that happened. 0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:15.480 Now. That was Rod. 0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:18.119 That was a because at first I was just like, oh, 0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:20.040 they no, they're not gonna do it because Alison. Remember 0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:22.280 the last time he put pushed up on Alison, she 0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:23.640 was kind of like, what the fuck is you doing? 0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:26.800 Like my son, But this one she was like, I 0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:28.680 couldn't tell her she was playing along because that's the 0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:30.240 role she had to do to get close to him 0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:34.000 or whatever. But either, like they said, it was still crazy. 0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:36.600 But what was your thoughts on how that scene played out? 0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:37.159 Me? 0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:39.360 Yeah, yeah, same way. 0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:39.560 Man. 0:23:39.600 --> 0:23:40.639 I was like, oh, my goodness. 0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:43.679 But I said, oh, she didn't wish when I realized 0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:48.040 it was more him, like kind of visualizing her as 0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:51.320 as as his mom. It was more so him and 0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:57.960 not her. Put like she thought that. Yeah, yeah, she 0:23:58.359 --> 0:23:59.840 thought he was looking at her, but now he's like, 0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:04.760 I got my mama, And yeah that was crazy, but yeah, 0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:05.720 I was doing like that like that. 0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:07.879 I can't actually was you? 0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:10.600 Was you surprised that he wanted to put a baby 0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:11.000 in there? 0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:14.119 Man, I'm not surprised. 0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.560 I mean we didn't say that. She said that though. 0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:18.000 That was. 0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:25.520 Yeah, yeah, that was crazy. 0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:27.639 But y'all remember the same thing having a Damon when 0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:31.880 he was there. Yeah, he was sucking his mama. Mm hmm, 0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:37.280 it was mom. It was I didn't realize that, damn 0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:38.600 the all motherfuckers. 0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:42.480 So I said to say, it must be something it 0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:44.680 was his MoMA, It must be something she doing. Yeah, 0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:47.280 like it's something they doing there, like even though he 0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:50.959 had that experience. We had that experience with Damon the 0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:56.320 last time. But yeah, I think it was something with 0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:59.840 the castle more so than it is with them individually. 0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:03.479 I'm definitely leaning more towards y'all man. With the wish thing. 0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:05.119 I never thought about it. Uni, y'all brought it to 0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:07.360 our attention, so I'm definitely. 0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:08.320 Well, do you think she is or no? I still 0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:09.480 don't think she's a wish, though. 0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:12.480 More towards that she's not, Like I never had the 0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:14.719 thought until y'all said that, but now I'm leading more 0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:15.480 towards that she's not. 0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:20.960 Mike, you think it was an illusion from the witch 0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:21.640 or the castle. 0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:27.560 I still do think she's a witch, but I don't 0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:29.600 think that she did anything in this scene because she 0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:32.400 said right after that, she said like, what did you see? 0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:34.760 Tell me what you saw? She so clearly she didn't 0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:38.159 do it right. But the thing is, this didn't This 0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:41.040 didn't get me. I could tell the second it happened, 0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:43.760 like this is a dream because it was too simple 0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:48.840 and Alison is too like prudish to just give it 0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:55.119 up that easy, really quick, but fear one thing. But 0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:57.800 she and this she just laid down, was just like Okay, 0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:01.120 I didn't think start i'mdoing his pants? 0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:03.679 Like yeah, I was like, no, this is fake, this 0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:04.120 is fake. 0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:05.440 Yeah. 0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:09.240 I think it took me till they till she started 0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:12.199 doing all of that, I was like, oh no, But 0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:15.000 initially I was like, I know she ain't this. 0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:19.520 Yeah, I don't think she got that in her. She 0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:22.680 doesn't that and yet to your point too, now that's 0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:24.960 what kind of was. I was like, nah, she even 0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:26.919 though we know what she's going there to do, she 0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:31.080 ain't like this this could to be able to do it, which. 0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:34.119 Is why, which is why for me can Once I 0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:36.840 realized it was fake, I still realized that it was 0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:40.159 still real to him as far as his intentions, like 0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:42.400 what he was willing to do with her, And I'm like, bro, 0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:44.000 this this is crazy. 0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:45.480 He is like. 0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:50.400 That's insane, Like he wanted to get his mom pregnant. 0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:54.040 Like why do you keep saying that that's what she said, 0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:55.080 That's what she. 0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:56.600 She said that he didn't say that. She was like 0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:58.280 put a baby in that's what he wanted to do. 0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:05.240 Bro O here like all right, like Mike said, right now, 0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:07.600 did he was? That's what I'm saying. 0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:10.480 I don't think it was just him having a vision though. 0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:13.080 I think it had something to do with where he is, 0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:16.640 hence the damon having the same dream less. 0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:19.760 Before he got there, he was already kissing on his moles. 0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:22.160 Bro So it's not like it's not like coming out 0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:24.040 of nowhere. The reason why we the reason why we 0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:26.760 discarded Damon and stuff because we never seen anything with 0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:28.920 him being in factuated with his mom. So that's why 0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:30.959 we just chalked it off as a weird dream. But 0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:32.959 with him, it's like, oh no, that's true intention. That's 0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:34.920 why I'm like, I'm asking Ken. I'm like, Bro, like 0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:37.080 he only pulled out because it was the Witch. 0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:40.640 Two things can be true. I think two things can 0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:43.200 be true. No, he won a son brothers fike. 0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:51.080 I oh he with an uncle son? 0:27:51.160 --> 0:28:06.480 Bro was disgusting enough haters, Yeah, can do you think 0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:08.720 it's gonna end well with the Witch? Because she she's 0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:12.359 like begging to be a targarian, like almost too heavy, 0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:13.400 like like heavy hand. 0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:17.600 It's like all right, bro, he kind of like, I'm 0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:24.399 not sure, I really have no idea. They clearly have 0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:27.160 this this sort of thing that we saw later on 0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:28.960 where she's vying for his. 0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:31.840 Soul attention. 0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:35.840 But the mama popped up, and you know, mama's can 0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:46.120 sometimes in some relationship get in the way. 0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:52.600 Hey y'all love face be like, hey, hey, as the 0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:55.360 as the resident mother of this crew, I was thinking 0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:57.520 about what your thoughts was at that dinner that awkward 0:28:57.560 --> 0:28:58.840 didn't see with them three. 0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:06.520 Me from she looks dusty, what are we doing in 0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:07.920 this dusty ass castle? 0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:08.080 Like? 0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:08.800 Why are you here? 0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:10.600 Son? 0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:13.120 And what I know about what most mamas don't like 0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:15.280 is when their son is theday a woman and she's 0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:19.200 answering more questions that when you're that, you're directed towards 0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:19.840 the son. 0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:28.080 She is his girlfriend. 0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:31.040 Don't have such a hard time because I'm not talking 0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:31.880 to you, young lady. 0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:36.680 I asked my son a question. Yeah. 0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:41.880 Yeah, immediately knows that she has too much power, which 0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:46.360 with aiming is odd, right, normally, like aiming is like 0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:50.520 he's the wild card, Like nobody's really been able to 0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:54.240 keep him in line really like that to the point 0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:56.000 where she's been scared of him. 0:29:56.200 --> 0:29:59.440 So to see this other woman like be able to come. 0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:03.480 In and kind of have him like like on her strings, 0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:07.240 like puppet mastering him is weird. So I think Alison 0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:12.520 immediately know something right. That's what the same way Alice 0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:14.320 know something right with Alice. 0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:17.560 Mm hmm, yeah. 0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:19.920 Can I think they're very similar in age at least 0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:21.800 that's not I mean, all witches look older than what 0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:22.800 they probably are, but. 0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:25.800 Still, yeah, that's probably what it is. 0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:35.640 Didn't oh yeah, yeah, yeah, hey very much had the 0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:37.800 best disguise I was. 0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:44.000 I was going to ask you, m The relationship that 0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:46.960 was described between Aiming and the witch was surprising to 0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:48.960 me because Aiming was like, listen, we about to go 0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:51.400 get married next week. I'm about to stay here and 0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.240 here that I was like, I was like. 0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:01.200 Some eggs, and he was like, oh. 0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:08.200 I think that. I think eggs were just well the thing. 0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:10.040 Well, then I'm not gonna get to the ex part 0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:11.920 because I'm a little confused by the ex part. 0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:13.000 But the other stuff. 0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.160 I really do think she puts some kind of spell 0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:18.440 on him, because why would he want to just stay 0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:19.760 at heron hall. 0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:22.760 Spell? 0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:34.240 That's the magic stuff, Hey, mama, ain't it? Ain't she said? 0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:37.440 It feels like the womb, like like I'm trying to 0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:43.480 he said at home backwards he felt at home again. 0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:47.880 I'll go where you wouldn't, Mike. 0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:51.000 And I think the major thing in this turn had 0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:53.200 to do with the eggs, because he feels like that 0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:54.840 will make him more powerful than right here. 0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:57.040 If she's if she. 0:31:57.080 --> 0:32:02.000 Has these these drag dragon eggs, and I guess they 0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:04.320 have to be I don't know how dragon eggs hatch, 0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:06.640 but maybe they have to be in a relationship him 0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:10.200 in the witch and when they have sex, the eggs hatch. 0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:11.560 I could see. 0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:14.640 Damon, excuse me, aiming being who he is and wanting 0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:18.040 power and thinking that Raanira has her power from having 0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:21.040 five big dragons. That well, I got eggs for dragons 0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:23.160 right here. I'll just sit here, let the dragons grow, 0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:25.240 and then I'm gonna come take kings landy. 0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:28.080 But how long does that take? Because I can't remember. 0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:31.760 That's a really good point. I mean it took Danny 0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:34.200 with seven years to her dragons. 0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:34.720 Got that beat. 0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:37.840 See, he can't wait seven years for those dragons to 0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:39.800 hatch and then get adult for him to go take 0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:43.240 the throne. 0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:46.760 He'll sneak up on him. 0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:49.360 Hey, Rob, did you find it funny with Alison? I 0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:52.280 mean the Witch was like, Yo, Mama can't stay with us. 0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:58.920 All these plans I got Alu Jabama. 0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:03.440 Right still has because she's not a witch. 0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:07.240 Though I know right that, just so that does sounds 0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:08.640 like any kind of couple, like you. 0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:14.480 Know what, the wife don't like this mother, She's gonna 0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:15.920 show y'all next episode. 0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:19.239 Can stay with us. I know some women like that. 0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:22.920 But though how did she know that? She says she 0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:24.080 has a cloud around her. 0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:27.800 Mm hmm. You you you can just say whatever. 0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:29.720 We say that all the time like that. 0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:32.400 She she like, yeah, no, it's a lot of people 0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:36.520 like I don't like her body. 0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:36.720 Always got some ship the same. 0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:47.680 I love your wonderful in laws. 0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:53.560 However, not everybody is in laws. What the what's the 0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:58.400 word around I can't be intuition. That's the word the 0:33:58.400 --> 0:33:59.560 women use. Intuition. 0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:02.880 Does she see a road block? That's what. 0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:09.880 She don't like me, Your mama don't like me. She 0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:10.920 messing up my plane. 0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:16.359 Well she was right kid, Yeah, but she was right kid, 0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:21.360 because Allison tried to get her with that crunk juice. 0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:24.880 It didn't work because he I mean, I thought it wasn't. 0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:27.040 I didn't know if it was a mistake for him 0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:29.560 to kill that guard that she that Allison came with. 0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:33.239 But it made sense because he was like, whatever, you 0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:33.879 don't know him. 0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:37.240 But the fact that she when she grabbed a knife 0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:41.640 out of his uh, from him, you know, from his person, 0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:44.000 I was like, she's not skilled enough to kill him 0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:45.719 with a knife. But then she saw those barriers, like 0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:48.080 oh yeah, she gonna poison a nigga. Did you think 0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:51.000 that she would go through with it after Amen was 0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:53.160 telling her like, actually, I'm the one to try to 0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:54.960 kill a god, you know, and I feel really bad 0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:55.480 about it. 0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:58.280 Yeah, she was trying to get out of that castle. 0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:00.480 She saw him kill that guy in cold blood. I 0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:03.680 think that guy was supposed to kill him, and once 0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:06.960 he was dead, there was nobody to kill him. So 0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:09.960 she she had to abort and and get out of 0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:13.680 the castle. So she decided to just put him to sleep. 0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:15.560 I thought I thought it was some type of poison 0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:17.520 at first, and that was gonna be her way of 0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:20.240 doing it. But I guess night Shade is some sleepy 0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:25.480 juice or whatever. And then uh and Alice poison. Yeah, 0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:26.680 so it is a poison. 0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:30.560 Yeah, everybody came in the kitchen. 0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:39.359 Oh okay, But she didn't give him enough to kill him. Then, well, 0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:43.279 it would probably take a little bit. It probably wouldn't. 0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:45.000 He wasn't there with Alice. 0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:47.240 Right, Yeah, she got to probably give him something else 0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:49.440 to turn it around. 0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:52.400 She had to give him a light dose then. 0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:53.279 Yeah. 0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.399 I did think that was kind of stupid for her 0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:59.600 to just like drug him and while he's still wabbling around, 0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:03.799 like I thought her job was to kill him. Well, 0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:07.600 I didn't understand, especially knowing that there's somebody else in 0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:10.640 the castle with him, why she did that and bounced 0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:12.840 like that. I would have done that and then maybe 0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:15.160 stab them and then I hide. 0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:18.000 But I didn't get her point. I was like, Alison's 0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:19.120 at her job. 0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:22.400 I think they did that they so they could do 0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:25.920 like what either Nick or Ken said, as far as 0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:28.680 the finale for next season, that's gonna be something that 0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:31.800 they can land softly on what we won't be pressing 0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:34.120 him as much at the end of the season, and 0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:36.520 I think she'll find out at the end of the 0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:39.440 next episode that he's still alive, which is why they 0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:40.120 did it that way. 0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:44.759 I definitely think that's a terrible job. Your job was 0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:47.040 to kill Yeah, But I. 0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:49.919 Think from a writing standpoint and the show standpoint, they're 0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:53.200 trying to find, especially with as much backlass as they 0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:56.200 got last season, how they ended it and what they 0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:56.759 ended it on. 0:36:57.600 --> 0:36:59.959 I don't think they want those big cliffhangers. 0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:02.279 A cliffhanger like this where she finds out at the 0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:05.040 end of the episode that he's still alive. We not 0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:07.160 too pissed about that as fans, and it ain't that 0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:10.320 much that you hanging on to for the next season. 0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:15.920 It's just it's just if then I'm going back to 0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:18.480 where they were saying, if you were there to kill him, 0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:21.000 you got this night shade, you put it in this 0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:23.400 You're mak him some tea so special juice whatever she 0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:23.799 called it. 0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:25.239 He drinks it. 0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:27.719 You didn't put enough to put him out to where 0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:30.920 you can complete the job. You have the knife, he 0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:34.200 passes out and then you can slit his throat and 0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:38.200 then leave. But instead it's just enough for him to 0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:41.880 get up and stumble. So either so, I'm just confused 0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:45.640 about the execution of how she went about doing it. 0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:46.800 I think. 0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:50.840 What makes y'all think Allison has it in her to 0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:53.680 slit anybody's throat or stab anybody. That's not even in 0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:58.359 her character. She can't do that. So was she did 0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:01.160 the best she could, which was bad. She's bad at 0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:04.120 her job. She's terrible at her job. She gave him 0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:06.920 some poison and then she ran away. This is exactly 0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:08.280 what I would expect out of Allison. 0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:12.960 I guess my thinking is that if, like, well, maybe 0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:14.880 she didn't know how much to put in the in 0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:20.359 the t then right, it's just the people. Yeah, I'm 0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:24.080 just trying to make this makes sense because I'm struggling 0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:30.440 with it. So she probably just exactly. 0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:33.279 Said, I don't even think it's that deep of a thought. 0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:35.759 I think it's just it's nick always say they're trying 0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:37.840 to kick the can down the road, just trying to 0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:38.560 kick the can on this. 0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:41.680 It just feels obvious because like, what is your plan 0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:43.400 when you lead a castle but you're gonna go back 0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:44.480 and sell Romara, Like. 0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:47.800 What what are you doing? For real? Like you're playing here, 0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:51.480 But this is on par with her character, it's. 0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:53.440 On part with her character to leave the castle in 0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:55.000 the middle of the night and trek through the woods 0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:58.319 to go back to Kings. 0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:00.640 Supposed to supposed to do, to do one job and 0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:02.759 it turns out another way. It happened with a gun, 0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:03.520 it happened. 0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:10.520 It happened with an invasion. Everything that's true. 0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:12.920 But Toy's point to like, you just gonna leave in 0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:16.600 the middle of night where you're going and he's dead. 0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:18.520 You don't know he's dead. 0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:21.840 Then that goes back to doesn't wait on confirmation. 0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:30.800 Ever ever, But that's that's that's all ran for one, 0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:34.920 giving her this big ass plan to execute with little 0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:37.520 experience on how to do it, and to not giving 0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:40.200 her proper backup or proper plan B to say, like, 0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:42.279 all right, we needed somebody to check on this, to 0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:44.239 make sure if you're if. 0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:45.960 You were near it, she's the reason that you're sitting 0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:46.520 on the throne. 0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:50.239 The plan that she came to you with is the 0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:52.920 plan that got you in kings landed and got you 0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:53.640 where you are now. 0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:55.839 So you kind of got to listen to it and. 0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:56.239 Like and like. 0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:58.920 But but, like Ranera said, what if I reaped from that? 0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:01.520 But she. 0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:05.279 Thought she was going to get there on though she 0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:09.720 got slicing the niggas block, she didn't get there because 0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:12.359 she actually took out her sons and they wasn't there 0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:13.200 when she arrived. 0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:15.600 Her sons just left. 0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:22.000 Both you that she just gave him. I think she 0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:25.040 just gave him enough to put him asleep. I don't 0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:26.040 think she was trying to pause. 0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:27.800 You don't think she's trying to actually kill them. You 0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:29.239 think she's trying to be still a good mama. And 0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:31.359 on that I thought she was just trying Yep, we're 0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:33.439 not good moment. I think once the guy was dead, 0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:39.640 she needed to leave the castle to get back to safety. 0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:43.400 Were still got to go back to Nierer though, what safety? 0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:46.440 She's not in danger at the castle, so what's the 0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:48.759 point of leaving. What's the point of putting it to 0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:49.920 sleep and taking off. 0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:55.719 To get That doesn't make any sense. Like she's not 0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:58.839 in danger. Like nobody in that castle is gonna hurt 0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:02.239 her that she knows of, So why nobody's gonna hurt 0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:03.000 her kids either? 0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:05.319 So why would she be afraid to the point where 0:41:05.320 --> 0:41:08.880 she's gonna put the sun to sleep and then sneak 0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:09.759 out in the middle of the night. 0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:13.000 That doesn't make any sense. I think to kill him, 0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:15.200 But she's just bad at it. She don't know what 0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:16.000 she's doing. 0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:20.719 I think when that guy did, when that guy was dead, 0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:23.280 she was just trying to get out of there. 0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:34.000 So we'll see, I don't know. We all got to 0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:37.040 agree to disagree until next week. Yeah, we're gonna find out. 0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:41.120 We didn't see that the army that Christian Cole tried 0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:45.800 to stop is almost a day away from Tumbleton and 0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:55.279 twenty k deep from what they said as a as 0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:58.120 a trophy. But we hear that Ormond has a plan 0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:00.360 up his sleeve or peace on the board. How he 0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:05.080 says for how from how he stated on how to see, uh, 0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:08.360 I guess how they can win. And then we see 0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:11.000 that Lord Corlis is a part of that because he's 0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:13.680 a prisoner. He got taken caps, so he isn't dead 0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:15.279 and so he's just locked up. 0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:24.080 Number five, Mike, what did you think about Lord Corliss 0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:24.239 in this. 0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:28.240 Scene while they're eating dinner together and stuff like that. 0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:33.080 He's still on business, man, I fuck with Corliss, Fuck 0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:35.840 with Corlss heavy. I was already sad enough. What happened? 0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:38.200 Wine? 0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:43.320 Sorry you said stood on business anyway? 0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:47.120 Yes, he stood on business. He was like, I'm not 0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:50.440 about to sell out Ranera. Even though he doesn't even 0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:54.160 funk with her, He's still just like she has my word, 0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:56.600 I'm not I'm not breaking my word. 0:42:57.080 --> 0:42:59.520 I'm not drinking your wine, I'm not eating your food. 0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:07.040 Right. Smart man, he was smart. 0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:12.560 He was like a smart young college student at a party. 0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:15.000 You don't know nobody yet, ain't put none of my drink. 0:43:15.120 --> 0:43:16.919 And I ain't like how they were talking to him either. 0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:20.200 But you know he was fed up, like early was, 0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:22.200 take me back to myself, right, let me go back 0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:24.600 to myself. This bullshit in front of me, Bro, I'm 0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:27.600 not listening to this ship chicken fat by Heim here 0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:28.640 trying to torture. 0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:31.279 You know what I'm saying, Man, they bet not kill 0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:34.120 correlas Bron. 0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:36.200 You think we don't make it? 0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:40.400 Huh? What do you think is gonna make it? I 0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:42.719 don't know. I don't make those kinds of predictions. I'm 0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:43.160 not nick. 0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:45.640 When I watched this show, I just sit back because 0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:48.600 I don't know anybody could die. I didn't expect Christian 0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:50.400 Colden died last episode. 0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:53.399 So and I don't know. I don't I don't know either. 0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:54.160 I ain't read this. 0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:55.960 I heard some things a little, so I'm gonna keep 0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:58.640 it to myself. I accidentally heard some things. I ain't 0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:02.879 gonna say nothing. Oh what was you saying? 0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:03.239 No, Roight? 0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:08.439 Oh was interesting with the with the son, his son 0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:10.920 and how he was looking at the whole situation. 0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:17.200 Yeah, you said about Darren Darren Targan. Yeah, yeah, like 0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:17.600 what he. 0:44:17.640 --> 0:44:20.600 Saying, observer, He wasn't It wasn't much you had. 0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:22.879 He just had the Allison faces, like he just had 0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:25.520 faces about like how everything was going on? 0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:29.160 How is this supposed to help us out? 0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:29.520 Something? 0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:34.239 He asked him? He was giving callers the plan. When 0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:37.600 I say he, I mean Orman was Ormond. He was 0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:41.319 giving Ormond uh Ormon was giving callers a plan. And 0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:44.279 then dude was like. Damon was like, well, why how 0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:48.319 did that make sense? That that's bad strategy? Like they 0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:52.040 don't even do anything for what we're trying to get 0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:53.880 accomplished here on our side. 0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:55.440 And he didn't have asked for. 0:44:55.400 --> 0:44:58.160 It because to me rose his eyes because to me 0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:00.640 little it seemed like Ormond was based saying like, I'm 0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:05.440 trying to get these other alliances with me, so when 0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:06.640 I'm able to. 0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:08.560 Rule, I already got that stuff intact. 0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:11.600 And Darren is like, nigga, we got twenty k soldiers 0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:13.480 them at the door, what the hell I gotta do? 0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:16.480 Like you're thinking about tomorrow when we focused on fighting today, 0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:17.160 you know what I'm saying. 0:45:17.160 --> 0:45:19.239 So I think that's what he knows. He don't got 0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:19.960 no soldiers. 0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:21.800 Really, he don't got no That's why he was like, 0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:23.919 what is like, what what is any of this doing? 0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:24.399 Yeah? 0:45:24.719 --> 0:45:26.239 Yeah, this ain't doing nothing for me? 0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:29.320 Yeah, Darren like, I ain't gonna be no kid. This 0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:31.480 is this, y'all play army. I got time to this. 0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:34.160 The fact going off with that kid did you see that. 0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:36.839 You remember the scene that Darren had right after this 0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:40.160 with g Wayne and he was basically, know, bitch and 0:45:40.200 --> 0:45:43.560 the g ain't about all the ship or I'm been doing. 0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:47.600 What did you take away from that conversation because I 0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:53.000 felt like it was it was interesting because I while 0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:54.480 I like their relationship between g. 0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:57.320 Wayne and Darren, I don't think it's gonna end well. 0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:03.040 Maybe not, but it sounded to me like Darren was 0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:07.399 realizing that he does have power and because he kind 0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:10.480 of threw out that I'm the king, I could just 0:46:10.560 --> 0:46:13.799 do this or that, you know, and probably was just 0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:17.520 trying to kind of, you know, get some sort of 0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:21.160 feedback on whether or not that would be feasible or 0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:24.600 good idea, and doesn't sound like Guin was really on 0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:28.400 board with it. But for him, he spoke back to 0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:31.160 him at the table, so we've seen that now, so 0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:32.200 he's speaking up more. 0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:34.439 And then he went on and was like, man, well 0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:36.560 I'm the king real for real. 0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:40.600 So at that point, so now I'm like, well, at 0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:43.439 some point, oh, and then that's what by was like, Well, 0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:45.759 you know, you can just get on your dragon and dip. 0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:49.360 And if he dipped, then you know he is a 0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:51.879 coward what's his name, lose Orman, lose all the power, 0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:54.720 And that's when he said, yeah, who wants to follow 0:46:54.760 --> 0:46:56.720 a king that leads his men? 0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:58.560 So he's trying to sort all of this shit. 0:46:58.440 --> 0:47:02.040 Out, you ask my question. 0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:04.480 He even did it from the other perspective of not 0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:06.560 him different but the men. Him telling the men that 0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:09.719 they don't have to fight, and then it being like, 0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:12.680 well what men, what soldiers would not want to fight 0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:16.480 for their key? So I like how they did it 0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:18.520 from both ways and how they're showing that he is 0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:22.839 for the first half many episodes of the season, they 0:47:22.840 --> 0:47:25.040 try to may act like that he was just a 0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:28.960 puppet and he's I like how this episode we just 0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:31.479 got one episode left, and how I don't think they're 0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:35.799 going to leave us with any like just teasers or 0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:40.560 these clippingers, because they've done a careful job of setting 0:47:40.640 --> 0:47:45.200 up these characters, even with this election. The seventh episode 0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:49.040 from this character is like, I'm interested to see regardless 0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:51.480 of how the next episode ends, how he plays out 0:47:51.520 --> 0:47:52.120 next season. 0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:54.440 So I think they did a really good job. 0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:58.839 With them because Mike, in my what I took away 0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:00.040 the most from the scene was like, I think I 0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:02.080 know what he said. He was like, man, to be honest, bro, 0:48:02.200 --> 0:48:04.719 Renera can have all this shit, like I don't want 0:48:05.040 --> 0:48:07.120 like they dropping me up for all this stuff, like 0:48:07.120 --> 0:48:08.360 but I don't even want none of this. 0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:09.799 Yeah. 0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:12.000 I think we I think we all kind of knew 0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:16.120 that that he's not interested in this. He's just he's 0:48:16.120 --> 0:48:18.799 scared to tell buddy that he doesn't want to do it. 0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:21.600 And I think he probably also knows he has nowhere 0:48:21.600 --> 0:48:25.279 else to go if he doesn't do this. So I 0:48:25.320 --> 0:48:28.480 thought I thought the conversation between him and GWayne was 0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:29.880 actually really interesting. 0:48:31.040 --> 0:48:34.640 Yeah, hey, real quick, quick fast forward. 0:48:34.719 --> 0:48:36.520 I want to ask you this, Rode, cause this reminded 0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:37.759 me of a scene and pay the full. 0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:42.799 Well, we see because Corlis is locked up, we see 0:48:42.960 --> 0:48:46.000 Orman said Alan the figure with the ring on it. 0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:53.480 Oh yeah, he was looking salt tea. Well, we go 0:48:53.640 --> 0:48:55.040 touch on it. But that was the that was the 0:48:55.040 --> 0:48:57.160 first thing I was thinking of it. I was like, damn, bro, 0:48:57.680 --> 0:48:59.160 they chopping him up limb by limb. 0:48:59.239 --> 0:49:02.000 Now, yeah, I knew. I knew exactly what that was. 0:49:02.040 --> 0:49:03.759 When I saw that box, I said, I. 0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:08.680 Think mm hmm. Yeah. 0:49:08.680 --> 0:49:09.840 When he pulled the knife out, it was like, oh, 0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:12.440 he's gonna cut his finger off. I thought it was 0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:18.360 his finger or his tongue, one of the two. His tongue, yeah, 0:49:18.480 --> 0:49:20.319 because I thought they were gonna cut his tongue off 0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:23.239 on some like you don't want to talk so cool, 0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:25.759 I'll cut your tongue out of it. 0:49:25.800 --> 0:49:27.719 Doesn't make any sense. It just came in my brain. 0:49:29.640 --> 0:49:33.040 Yeah, she's trying with them and make him think that 0:49:33.120 --> 0:49:34.120 he did say something. 0:49:35.920 --> 0:49:37.479 Yeah, it'll be true. 0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:45.560 We didn't see Damon go back to the I forget 0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:47.120 the lady's name, but I think she's in the veil, 0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:50.959 the woman who liked the witch her twin. He goes 0:49:50.960 --> 0:49:52.680 to her and begs for her to be like, listen, 0:49:52.760 --> 0:49:55.719 I know my daughter is out here roaming around and. 0:49:55.680 --> 0:49:58.520 She's supposed to I thought she was gonna lock her up, 0:49:58.560 --> 0:49:59.360 but you didn't. 0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:01.719 Let me go get her before you tell the queen, 0:50:01.920 --> 0:50:04.919 give me a day to go find her. And while 0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:07.440 he's doing that, we see that Adam and Baylor are 0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:10.759 continuing on to find Sheep Sailor on their own, but 0:50:10.800 --> 0:50:14.919 they have a little quick conversation first, and Adam gets 0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:16.560 a chance to explain why he wants to have that 0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:22.120 last name of Olirium nay, what did you think about between. 0:50:23.920 --> 0:50:28.239 Keep it to gazzer? Why are you opening your mouth? 0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:31.040 You know caused the risk between brothers and didn't even 0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:34.560 realize it. And why do you think that this nigga 0:50:34.600 --> 0:50:36.400 want to marry you just because you gave him some 0:50:36.600 --> 0:50:37.719 all of a sudden like that? 0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:42.120 I mean, god, what makes you think he don't? Right? 0:50:42.840 --> 0:50:48.040 I'm looking at him and look at her, but. 0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:51.920 She poor, poor poor What's what Adam Allan? 0:50:51.920 --> 0:50:53.560 I don't know which one is with that? 0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:55.640 That Alan is the one who got Baylor. Adam was 0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:58.600 the one who was salty, his head blessed. 0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:03.080 Feeling so bad. 0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:04.919 He was sick. 0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:08.279 Why would I talk to my brother? Yeah? 0:51:08.440 --> 0:51:12.440 She got to keep it together, loose up sense ships. 0:51:13.200 --> 0:51:14.320 Right, he was sick. 0:51:14.440 --> 0:51:16.439 Boy, he thought he had a good reason, like listen, 0:51:16.480 --> 0:51:18.120 let me get this last name, I can slide up 0:51:18.120 --> 0:51:18.440 with you. 0:51:18.480 --> 0:51:20.879 And so she's like, oh, you'd be like your brother did? 0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:24.160 That was crazy that. 0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:29.520 You think that's gonna you think that's gonna cause a 0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:36.600 big rifk between the brothers, right, I mean yes? 0:51:37.760 --> 0:51:45.320 And then you know you know what I'm saying. 0:51:46.160 --> 0:51:50.239 It's gonna cause a problem because Adam Allen, whichever one 0:51:50.760 --> 0:51:51.759 the Baar hadn one. 0:51:52.400 --> 0:51:56.920 He's on the court with Bremia. He is like heading 0:51:56.920 --> 0:51:59.440 again charge of the other battlefield. 0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:00.880 And it's the girl. 0:52:01.400 --> 0:52:03.759 This dude thought he got a dragon that came up 0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:06.879 and he really don't have nothing but a dragon, damn. 0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:11.480 So all the bastard is gonna turn out to worthless. 0:52:12.719 --> 0:52:15.399 John like call that one, like they're all gonna turn 0:52:15.440 --> 0:52:15.920 on him. 0:52:15.960 --> 0:52:18.520 So yeah, I think that's going to be another piece 0:52:18.560 --> 0:52:23.000 that causes Milli Vanilli to turn on Raniera because he 0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:25.680 hasn't gotten anything. He can't get the girl. He wants 0:52:25.920 --> 0:52:28.600 his brother and got all the power. The brother even 0:52:28.640 --> 0:52:31.200 got his daddy's recognition before he. 0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:35.040 Did Hammer having problems with his wife, y'all, he's gonna 0:52:35.040 --> 0:52:37.480 be out mm hmm, having problems with it. 0:52:37.600 --> 0:52:40.360 So she could go, she could go up three dragons 0:52:40.480 --> 0:52:43.799 down three dragons. That's what it. 0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:50.520 Seemed like, shaping up to be like that. Yep, that's unfortunately, y'all. 0:52:51.360 --> 0:52:55.080 He said, what but she sort of favorite arena to y'all. 0:52:56.400 --> 0:53:04.359 So no, yeah, they stop. 0:53:04.280 --> 0:53:13.880 Stop, no, no, at the end of the season. At 0:53:13.920 --> 0:53:17.279 the end of the season, if she's gotten all three 0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:19.640 of those dragons, that ain't gonna be no big cliffhanger, right, 0:53:21.160 --> 0:53:24.120 I don't think those three dragons have switched sides, like 0:53:24.160 --> 0:53:26.080 if that's where they leave us at the end of 0:53:26.200 --> 0:53:29.439 the next episode, where, of course we'll speculating now. 0:53:29.520 --> 0:53:34.520 But Hugh, my guy with the wife and him right 0:53:34.520 --> 0:53:35.080 here now. 0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:37.680 Because of this relationship situation all through the bass of 0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:39.160 dragons switched to tam Green. 0:53:40.760 --> 0:53:42.680 I don't know that all of them are gonna switch 0:53:43.000 --> 0:53:45.200 by the end of the next episode, because the guy you. 0:53:45.400 --> 0:53:48.640 I'm asking you, wouldn't be mad if there was a cliffhanger, right, No, 0:53:48.640 --> 0:53:49.080 I wouldn't. 0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:51.239 I'm not gonna be mad regardless. I don't really love 0:53:51.280 --> 0:53:54.480 cliffhangers in general. But I'm not gonna be mad regardless 0:53:54.520 --> 0:53:56.600 because I know it's only one more season. But I 0:53:56.600 --> 0:53:58.560 also know that it's probably gonna take them two years 0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:03.000 before we get the last sea reason. But I don't think. 0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:04.680 I don't think all three of them are going to 0:54:04.800 --> 0:54:08.040 leave by the end of thee I think definitely the 0:54:08.840 --> 0:54:14.279 little wishy, washy white one, he's definitely gonna go, that's obvious. 0:54:14.360 --> 0:54:17.280 And the guy that has his wife in the city, 0:54:17.719 --> 0:54:20.920 I don't know if they've shown any real reason for 0:54:21.000 --> 0:54:23.560 him to leave. Yet even though Rener hadn't done shit 0:54:23.680 --> 0:54:25.800 for him, she didn't hurt. 0:54:25.719 --> 0:54:30.919 Him either, right, not really right, well, indirectly she did 0:54:30.960 --> 0:54:33.240 because his family is going through that, and his wife 0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:37.480 is blaming him for leaving them, leaving their family by 0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:40.080 by themselves and her fault. 0:54:40.080 --> 0:54:42.359 That's not Raniero's fault, exactly, that's his fault. 0:54:42.480 --> 0:54:45.319 No, No, I ain't saying it's his fault or Rania's fault. 0:54:45.560 --> 0:54:49.920 He may blame Ranera for her reaction his wife to him. 0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:52.320 I think they're going to try to give better reasons 0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:54.719 for the audience to understand why this would happen. Like, 0:54:55.000 --> 0:55:00.640 I completely understand why olf I got. I get him 0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:04.000 because he didn't really ask for that much. The only 0:55:04.080 --> 0:55:08.359 thing that would make me see the other the black 0:55:08.440 --> 0:55:13.439 dude taking his dragon and bouncing. Actually, no, I can't 0:55:13.480 --> 0:55:17.320 see why he would do that because his dad I 0:55:18.640 --> 0:55:21.240 loved that girl, but that, But that wouldn't have anything 0:55:21.239 --> 0:55:24.080 to do with Ranera and this dude. This dude has 0:55:24.120 --> 0:55:26.919 your dad kidnapped and chopped his finger off, So why 0:55:26.920 --> 0:55:31.200 would you leave and go work for him? 0:55:31.360 --> 0:55:35.680 That's that's true. That's true. 0:55:36.000 --> 0:55:37.640 Yeah, that that that was the reason why I was 0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:40.640 like I was curious to know, like how this relationship 0:55:40.680 --> 0:55:44.480 with like not getting on with Bayla would impact Adam, 0:55:44.520 --> 0:55:48.440 because I think the fact I know that, I know 0:55:48.480 --> 0:55:50.360 they're trying to switch, like you said, they're trying to 0:55:50.360 --> 0:55:53.560 switch the three bastards against her now, But it's like 0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:56.279 he don't really have a real issue with team He 0:55:56.280 --> 0:55:58.200 doesn't have a real issue with Team Black enough to 0:55:58.239 --> 0:55:59.319 switch to go to Team Green. 0:55:59.440 --> 0:55:59.759 Like that's what. 0:56:01.239 --> 0:56:01.680 Good point? 0:56:02.120 --> 0:56:04.239 But I think the finger means something else then we 0:56:04.320 --> 0:56:08.279 think it means. I don't think the finger means that 0:56:08.320 --> 0:56:11.200 we got your dad and we holding him hostage. I 0:56:11.200 --> 0:56:15.160 think the finger is a sign for him telling his son, hey, 0:56:15.160 --> 0:56:16.640 look it's time switch sides. 0:56:17.360 --> 0:56:21.840 What I think he can send a rave and he 0:56:21.960 --> 0:56:23.600 got to send a finger for that. That's what I 0:56:23.680 --> 0:56:28.880 think misheard. Why leave the ring on the finger to 0:56:28.920 --> 0:56:31.359 make sure it's your daddy? Is that he is at 0:56:31.400 --> 0:56:32.360 the flooding in your. 0:56:32.200 --> 0:56:35.080 Face, like look your little ring all that Like that 0:56:35.160 --> 0:56:37.800 don't mean ship to me, be like, oh it's Tomas, 0:56:37.800 --> 0:56:39.320 switch side, send him my finger. 0:56:40.200 --> 0:56:41.200 Write me a letter, bro. 0:56:43.120 --> 0:56:48.400 And that as being motivation though, motivation for what I 0:56:48.680 --> 0:56:52.320 feel like that that if I'm sending if that finger 0:56:52.440 --> 0:56:55.919 is being sent from Corelers to his son. I don't 0:56:55.920 --> 0:56:59.800 think that it's being sent as we got your daddy, 0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:01.799 you need to do what we say. I think it's 0:57:01.840 --> 0:57:04.279 being said as this is a conversation to him and 0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:06.080 his daddy and then had before when if you received 0:57:06.080 --> 0:57:13.000 this in the mail, it's time to do the. 0:57:13.520 --> 0:57:14.760 So you think you think? 0:57:15.040 --> 0:57:18.000 You think Ormond pulled the knife out and Corla said, 0:57:18.040 --> 0:57:20.960 that's a nice sharp knife. Cut my finger off, pretended 0:57:21.040 --> 0:57:21.520 to my son. 0:57:23.280 --> 0:57:25.320 No, I don't it happened that way. I think it 0:57:25.360 --> 0:57:26.400 happened as too. Well. 0:57:26.480 --> 0:57:29.320 If I me and my son have had this conversation, 0:57:30.480 --> 0:57:33.040 give me that knife. I'm going to send him my 0:57:33.120 --> 0:57:37.280 finger based off the conversation that we add. Here, here's 0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:39.960 my finger. You know what to do next. Where did 0:57:39.960 --> 0:57:40.920 you read this theory? 0:57:41.240 --> 0:57:42.960 I don't know what is somewhere. 0:57:43.000 --> 0:57:46.360 I will say that it's a terrible theory that makes no. 0:57:46.360 --> 0:57:49.160 Sense until it happens. 0:57:49.360 --> 0:57:52.520 Until it happens, Like Mike said, they could just say 0:57:52.520 --> 0:57:55.320 he could have sent a raven. And I think the 0:57:55.360 --> 0:57:57.520 reason why there's the ring on the fingers, so he knows. 0:57:58.280 --> 0:57:59.920 But the ring is on the finger, so he knows 0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:01.920 that is his daddy, you can't send the no black finger, 0:58:02.400 --> 0:58:05.760 that could be anybody. 0:58:06.600 --> 0:58:08.640 To be clear, it ain't that many black people wish. 0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:11.120 I think that many black fingers you could see. 0:58:11.400 --> 0:58:11.760 I don't know. 0:58:11.800 --> 0:58:14.919 I just think there was more to it than him 0:58:15.000 --> 0:58:19.000 just sending that finger and them supposing to respond with, oh, 0:58:19.080 --> 0:58:20.040 y'all got my dad. 0:58:20.440 --> 0:58:22.000 I don't think that that was the thing. 0:58:22.080 --> 0:58:25.400 He looked terrified when he opened the box. He looked terrified. 0:58:25.440 --> 0:58:26.480 He had opened the box. 0:58:26.240 --> 0:58:28.840 Because of what he gotta do, because of the discussion, 0:58:28.920 --> 0:58:30.400 the discussions that they had. 0:58:30.520 --> 0:58:33.360 If you receive this finger, you gotta get off YouTube man. 0:58:34.000 --> 0:58:36.680 The second of all, second of all lou him and 0:58:36.760 --> 0:58:38.920 is that he just repaired their relationship. They ain't had 0:58:38.920 --> 0:58:41.520 no They don't have no bond to have no deep 0:58:42.240 --> 0:58:44.640 like succession plans set up for like how that's going. 0:58:45.760 --> 0:58:47.720 If it was if it was some ship like oh, 0:58:47.760 --> 0:58:50.600 if you get this in the mail, that means switch sides, 0:58:50.920 --> 0:58:54.120 cut a lock off, that would be just as telling 0:58:54.200 --> 0:58:56.920 as the finger. Cut one of my dreads off, wrap 0:58:56.920 --> 0:58:59.240 it around the ring and send that. Why would he 0:58:59.320 --> 0:59:00.720 say cut my finger off. 0:59:01.520 --> 0:59:02.240 That doesn't make. 0:59:05.320 --> 0:59:08.720 That's terrible, that would make any sense. Well, we also 0:59:08.800 --> 0:59:09.560 doesn't make sense. 0:59:09.880 --> 0:59:12.080 It's one of the We get another episode of these 0:59:12.200 --> 0:59:16.000 useless ass council meetings where we see the Master of 0:59:16.000 --> 0:59:18.960 the Coin is fed up and he figured it out. 0:59:19.040 --> 0:59:21.320 Louis was like, y'all gotta be at some damn patsy 0:59:21.920 --> 0:59:24.480 for the damn realm, and everybody got real quiet and 0:59:24.520 --> 0:59:27.800 start drinking their tea. But we quickly see as Adam 0:59:27.840 --> 0:59:30.840 and Baylor come in saying they found sheep stealer and 0:59:30.960 --> 0:59:35.760 possibly it's rider h moving on real quick. But before 0:59:35.760 --> 0:59:37.360 we move on anything else, Rod, did you find it 0:59:37.440 --> 0:59:39.560 funny with the Master of coin had to say in 0:59:39.640 --> 0:59:43.280 the beating, yeah, saying when he held his hand up 0:59:43.400 --> 0:59:46.680 like he was like, he was like, it seems like 0:59:46.800 --> 0:59:48.959 y'all set me up here to be a scapegoat because 0:59:49.040 --> 0:59:51.320 y'all not listening to anything I say. I said, y'all 0:59:51.400 --> 0:59:53.440 keep on asking for money. I'm saying, let's put a 0:59:53.520 --> 0:59:56.200 tax in. No one's listening to me. All the money 0:59:56.240 --> 0:59:58.400 that we do got is going quickly out out the 0:59:58.440 --> 1:00:01.720 crib like what, like, what's going on? Like he was 1:00:01.760 --> 1:00:03.400 basically asking for an audience and no one's giving it 1:00:03.440 --> 1:00:04.200 to him right right. 1:00:05.360 --> 1:00:07.560 I don't know why I didn't pay attention to him 1:00:07.600 --> 1:00:17.280 more so than the lady that was next to him. 1:00:14.400 --> 1:00:21.400 Right, she said, I'll go happily. Yeah, but I thought 1:00:21.480 --> 1:00:24.400 that was funny. But lou, what were your thoughts on 1:00:24.480 --> 1:00:28.040 Massiria uh this episode and how heavy handed she was 1:00:28.040 --> 1:00:29.640 trying to turn the queen against Damon? 1:00:31.080 --> 1:00:34.400 She was heavy hands, all right, Yeah, she was really 1:00:34.520 --> 1:00:37.400 she was really a heavy handed kid. I don't know. 1:00:37.480 --> 1:00:40.880 This came off as obvious, man like, even when Reniero 1:00:41.040 --> 1:00:43.480 was questioning her at the end of the episode, like yeah, 1:00:43.600 --> 1:00:45.160 just like you try to do this or just like 1:00:45.200 --> 1:00:47.240 it was this, I felt like that was the right 1:00:48.240 --> 1:00:52.320 uh action to take us as if you was watching 1:00:52.320 --> 1:00:55.120 this and seeing her respond to this, like, Nigga, you 1:00:55.120 --> 1:00:57.040 ain't the end all be all, Like you can't. I 1:00:57.040 --> 1:01:00.600 can't trust everything that you say because you've had good 1:01:00.800 --> 1:01:03.760 merit for one season, half a season or whatever it 1:01:03.800 --> 1:01:07.120 may be. So yeah, I like the fact that she 1:01:07.400 --> 1:01:11.600 was trying to the gray worm take this and move 1:01:11.680 --> 1:01:14.840 into her place as this master of whispers that she 1:01:15.000 --> 1:01:17.240 wants to be. But I also like to how they 1:01:17.240 --> 1:01:19.720 played it out on screen as to where she's nowhere 1:01:20.040 --> 1:01:26.000 near experienced enough to fool anybody. In this position, everybody's 1:01:26.200 --> 1:01:27.640 very clear at what she's doing. 1:01:27.760 --> 1:01:30.040 Damon is clear. Near her is clear. 1:01:30.360 --> 1:01:33.640 Everybody, even the workers in the in the in the castle, 1:01:33.720 --> 1:01:37.000 know what she's doing. Everybody know exactly what she's doing. 1:01:37.280 --> 1:01:38.680 And she's not really good at her job. 1:01:39.320 --> 1:01:42.240 Her little whole friend. 1:01:44.080 --> 1:01:51.160 I was gonna get to that. He not you, not you? 1:01:53.040 --> 1:01:55.080 She right? 1:01:58.600 --> 1:01:59.600 I love how she was like. 1:01:59.640 --> 1:02:02.240 Remember but since she was showing around the castle like yeah, 1:02:02.240 --> 1:02:05.080 this is my this is my room right here, I can. 1:02:05.000 --> 1:02:05.560 Take it to the. 1:02:07.680 --> 1:02:13.440 Here's the iron throne. Don't sit on it. And then 1:02:13.680 --> 1:02:16.200 her girlfriend was like, nigga, you think you would? 1:02:16.520 --> 1:02:17.360 She was like what she? 1:02:17.800 --> 1:02:19.200 I like how they be talking in like these old 1:02:19.240 --> 1:02:21.720 school biblical tours. She was like, what power is truth 1:02:21.760 --> 1:02:24.640 to you? But she was like what what? What power 1:02:24.640 --> 1:02:26.000 do you think you had? And she talking about some 1:02:26.440 --> 1:02:28.360 she talking about from ya still, I can do more 1:02:28.600 --> 1:02:31.040 for the streets here than I can do outside. 1:02:33.520 --> 1:02:36.840 They see you as the street You just came to them. 1:02:38.080 --> 1:02:41.400 That was like some real new money, tight tight arrogance 1:02:41.920 --> 1:02:44.760 had man. Yeah, bless her heart. She got read for 1:02:44.840 --> 1:02:46.040 filth and then. 1:02:46.440 --> 1:02:50.520 After she read her essentially she played into exactly what 1:02:51.000 --> 1:02:53.200 the girl said like well, I guess this really is 1:02:53.240 --> 1:02:54.000 all I'm good for. 1:02:54.240 --> 1:02:57.680 I guess so heart. 1:02:58.960 --> 1:03:01.320 Got you what the ghetto boys said. 1:03:03.600 --> 1:03:05.240 Now, her friend ain't like how she was standing up 1:03:05.240 --> 1:03:08.400 on that uh that the tall step looking down on 1:03:08.480 --> 1:03:10.240 She's like, you got you got on this gucci out 1:03:10.280 --> 1:03:10.560 for that. 1:03:10.680 --> 1:03:12.760 It takes me a whole year to get you know. 1:03:12.880 --> 1:03:16.800 We were at the like you with us. Yeah, that was funny. 1:03:18.240 --> 1:03:21.800 Another funny scene was we later see uh, Damon fine 1:03:21.880 --> 1:03:25.320 Ranera uh it tries the reason with her once again, 1:03:26.040 --> 1:03:27.720 but we but we see it's too late. 1:03:28.320 --> 1:03:29.920 Yes, hit the couch. 1:03:32.360 --> 1:03:34.560 It's too late because we see Nara and Adam come 1:03:34.600 --> 1:03:36.560 through with their dragons and confront everybody. 1:03:37.120 --> 1:03:41.520 Mike, what was your thoughts on this scene? This was sad. 1:03:41.640 --> 1:03:43.320 I don't know why. I don't. I don't. I didn't 1:03:43.400 --> 1:03:44.880 like seeing sheep stealer done like. 1:03:44.880 --> 1:03:46.360 I didn't like seeing any of them get all bit 1:03:46.480 --> 1:03:48.920 up like that, because this show does too good of 1:03:48.960 --> 1:03:52.200 a doubt making these these animals look real. So it 1:03:52.320 --> 1:03:55.760 was sad, but I knew that was gonna happen, and 1:03:55.760 --> 1:03:59.400 this was this was just like some Tyler Perry as drama. 1:03:59.560 --> 1:04:04.200 Like I don't know how Damon thought he was gonna 1:04:04.240 --> 1:04:07.640 get out of this. He was talking about run like 1:04:08.120 --> 1:04:12.680 they saw her. What do you mean run, Mike? 1:04:12.840 --> 1:04:15.919 I was I thought. I thought, when he's said, where 1:04:17.040 --> 1:04:21.320 you in a field, bro Field, where is he gonna 1:04:21.360 --> 1:04:22.280 run through? Mike? 1:04:22.360 --> 1:04:24.280 When he said told her to run, I'm thinking, like 1:04:24.280 --> 1:04:26.720 he's gonna try to stop Adam because Adam was like 1:04:26.800 --> 1:04:30.280 honking her down. Oh, He's like he's gonna tackle he 1:04:30.640 --> 1:04:32.720 he just let her. I'm like, so you thought she 1:04:32.840 --> 1:04:33.480 was gonna beat. 1:04:33.320 --> 1:04:38.680 Them all foot, running away like like Larry's like that, bro, 1:04:39.040 --> 1:04:40.200 I'll run anybody like that. 1:04:40.520 --> 1:04:42.640 She run away like Forrest Gump in high school, like 1:04:42.680 --> 1:04:43.040 come on. 1:04:43.160 --> 1:04:49.720 Like hey, Damon tried to dirt Dirt was down and 1:04:49.840 --> 1:04:51.840 he tried to walk up with so much authority, and 1:04:51.880 --> 1:04:54.160 he was so mad and then the dragon just roared 1:04:54.240 --> 1:04:55.400 and knocked him down like. 1:04:56.280 --> 1:04:57.960 A little person. I know. 1:04:58.040 --> 1:05:00.520 He was so pissed off about this, because you know 1:05:00.560 --> 1:05:02.480 how you feel when you mad or something you trip 1:05:02.640 --> 1:05:10.320 or you fall and you hit something, like god damn it. 1:05:09.240 --> 1:05:09.600 He did. 1:05:09.800 --> 1:05:15.760 He laid up for a minute like god damn. Yeah. 1:05:15.760 --> 1:05:18.200 This scene this scene was was really good. This was 1:05:18.440 --> 1:05:20.000 I think this was the best scene in the episode. 1:05:20.080 --> 1:05:21.360 Like it was really. 1:05:22.800 --> 1:05:25.760 When they jumped Sheep Stealer, yeah, man, I was fucked up. Man, 1:05:26.920 --> 1:05:29.880 they had to because she still was sheep still took 1:05:29.880 --> 1:05:33.280 care of Whenara's dragon I could take this one that. 1:05:33.640 --> 1:05:37.080 Because you know what they say, they stronger than most, 1:05:40.760 --> 1:05:44.120 those slow dragons, stronger than most. 1:05:44.280 --> 1:05:50.360 That's right, that's what her dragons. I heard all that 1:05:50.360 --> 1:05:53.120 ship you was talking? Man, what's something now? 1:05:54.080 --> 1:05:54.800 Did feel bad? 1:05:54.840 --> 1:05:57.360 Even though what's the name Renee goofy ass in the 1:05:57.360 --> 1:05:59.360 background screaming no, get off. 1:05:59.160 --> 1:06:01.000 For him, let him? 1:06:01.840 --> 1:06:09.000 No mean, you don't mean stop jumping him, stop jumping? 1:06:10.120 --> 1:06:12.320 So is he is he? I can't think he did, 1:06:12.360 --> 1:06:14.960 because we don't see him. He just he just he 1:06:15.080 --> 1:06:15.520 pulled off. 1:06:16.280 --> 1:06:19.680 But that's why Damon's stupid? Why why do you keep 1:06:19.720 --> 1:06:24.840 making these mistakes? Like I just don't understand why he 1:06:25.000 --> 1:06:27.800 let sheep Stealer live. I just don't get I get it. 1:06:27.800 --> 1:06:29.680 He didn't want to hurt his daughter, but at this point, 1:06:29.760 --> 1:06:30.960 fuck it your. 1:06:30.880 --> 1:06:34.160 Daughter is I don't know if that was his choice. 1:06:34.360 --> 1:06:37.200 I don't think that was his choice. How was it 1:06:37.280 --> 1:06:43.600 not his choice? He was? He stumbled away and Damon's 1:06:43.640 --> 1:06:44.720 dragon was right there. 1:06:45.000 --> 1:06:46.960 Yeah, I thought Damon was gonna like end it because 1:06:46.960 --> 1:06:48.720 he did he tell the dragon to killer. 1:06:48.920 --> 1:06:56.280 I thought he go, yeah, like maybe she got so 1:06:56.360 --> 1:06:58.480 many licks, and so it was like they just both 1:06:58.560 --> 1:07:00.280 kind of went their separate ways. 1:07:01.400 --> 1:07:03.920 And when Damon fell down, they wouldn't take care of Damon. 1:07:03.960 --> 1:07:05.200 It went to go get Damon. 1:07:06.880 --> 1:07:12.200 No, y'all know, Damon let sheep Stealer live. He didn't hurt. 1:07:12.560 --> 1:07:16.240 No, Sheep still got out of there like he broke. 1:07:16.840 --> 1:07:17.720 He got out of there like. 1:07:21.120 --> 1:07:21.520 He did. 1:07:21.680 --> 1:07:26.320 And then after they tumbled a bit, they stopped and 1:07:26.360 --> 1:07:28.320 then he said I'll take care of all this or whatever. 1:07:28.720 --> 1:07:32.240 Sheep Stealer just walked away. He didn't dip. He walked 1:07:32.240 --> 1:07:35.320 over the hill and then stopped. No, there was well 1:07:35.880 --> 1:07:36.600 you're talking about. 1:07:36.720 --> 1:07:39.800 After that was a little bit of fight, yes, and 1:07:39.840 --> 1:07:42.960 then when Damon fell down, he was getting up, and 1:07:43.000 --> 1:07:45.800 that's when, yeah, I know what you're talking about, because 1:07:45.800 --> 1:07:47.760 I saw Sheep still a walk off, and I was 1:07:47.880 --> 1:07:51.480 surprised that the other dragon then follow him and go 1:07:51.600 --> 1:07:53.200 kill him. So I don't know if he thought that 1:07:53.320 --> 1:07:56.680 sheep Stiller was mortally wounded and wasn't gonna live or 1:07:57.080 --> 1:07:58.600 Damon and both of them had enough. 1:07:59.160 --> 1:08:01.240 The camera zoom in on Damon's face. 1:08:01.320 --> 1:08:03.840 Damon looked around and then that it changed to a 1:08:03.840 --> 1:08:07.600 different scene. Damon did not say, cracksis go finish him off. 1:08:08.760 --> 1:08:10.600 It wouldn't have been that hard because she's stealing. Was 1:08:10.720 --> 1:08:14.880 fucked up and he couldn't even w Damon could have 1:08:15.280 --> 1:08:16.600 killed him at that point. 1:08:17.560 --> 1:08:20.439 He had Damon, Damon had done with dragons. She's still 1:08:20.520 --> 1:08:22.080 high behind them, Damn trees. 1:08:23.439 --> 1:08:26.280 This I don't know Damon's Damon's making bad decisions. I 1:08:26.280 --> 1:08:28.920 don't know why he She still ain't ain't to be 1:08:29.000 --> 1:08:33.639 fun with though, Bro, he got he got the slow 1:08:33.640 --> 1:08:40.439 people shrink. He can't real dragons, he can't real dragon. 1:08:40.560 --> 1:08:42.680 He was he was, he was, he was because I'm 1:08:42.680 --> 1:08:44.600 looking at it, I'm looking at it now like he 1:08:44.800 --> 1:08:48.320 was even when Damon dipped off, like he gave him 1:08:48.320 --> 1:08:49.960 a little claws to the neck, like, man, you can't 1:08:50.000 --> 1:08:58.680 fuck with me, bro, Yeah, if you dragging, if you 1:08:58.720 --> 1:09:00.760 keep Damon dragon. When he was leaving, he put the 1:09:00.760 --> 1:09:05.040 claws in his neck, and everything was like you ain't 1:09:05.040 --> 1:09:05.679 about this life? 1:09:08.200 --> 1:09:09.759 Yeah yeah, yeah, she still. 1:09:11.360 --> 1:09:16.759 She still yeah yeah on some street ship. But earth. 1:09:19.760 --> 1:09:22.320 Right, this is gonna come back and bite Damon. The 1:09:22.360 --> 1:09:24.519 ass because this is once again he was supposed to 1:09:24.520 --> 1:09:26.000 finish something and he didn't. 1:09:26.080 --> 1:09:27.760 Which is why, which is why I think you bring 1:09:27.840 --> 1:09:31.479 up a great point, Mike, because after Ranera brings Raina home, 1:09:32.640 --> 1:09:36.679 we see her and Damon have a good conversation after that. 1:09:37.120 --> 1:09:39.040 But before I get to that question, right, you got 1:09:39.040 --> 1:09:39.639 something to say. 1:09:40.040 --> 1:09:42.400 I think he might have spared she's still because he 1:09:42.479 --> 1:09:44.320 knows Raina really wants No. 1:09:44.720 --> 1:09:53.479 Yeah, that's yeah, that's what you said. But yeah, I agree, 1:09:53.560 --> 1:09:55.679 that's what I'm looking at the scene now. He told 1:09:55.760 --> 1:09:58.360 him to kill him and he's on his nick. 1:09:59.280 --> 1:10:01.240 Yes, after keep. 1:10:01.000 --> 1:10:07.280 Watching, I miss what you said after that, Man, what 1:10:07.320 --> 1:10:09.000 were you saying happened after that? 1:10:09.360 --> 1:10:12.880 Then sheep Stealer just kind of stumbles off, and Damon 1:10:12.960 --> 1:10:16.519 doesn't go after him to kill him. He could have 1:10:16.560 --> 1:10:18.120 easily went and killed him. He could have took a 1:10:18.120 --> 1:10:21.480 sword and killed sheep Stealer at that point, but he didn't. 1:10:21.600 --> 1:10:23.519 And I think, just like Roger said, and just like 1:10:23.560 --> 1:10:26.479 I said before, I think it's because he doesn't want 1:10:26.479 --> 1:10:28.920 to hurt his daughter anymore. That's the only thing that 1:10:28.960 --> 1:10:33.160 makes any sense. That's her crackhead boyfriend, and he feels 1:10:33.240 --> 1:10:36.600 bad because she's been through so much and he's just like, 1:10:36.640 --> 1:10:38.320 I don't want to do this last thing to her. 1:10:38.800 --> 1:10:40.960 Yeah, he empathizes with it because he wanted to drag 1:10:40.960 --> 1:10:41.920 it when he was younger too. 1:10:42.479 --> 1:10:45.679 Yeah, that's what we learned about in that transaction. Yeah, 1:10:46.640 --> 1:10:49.040 but Mike, I'm curious to get your thoughts on Damon 1:10:49.080 --> 1:10:52.400 and Ronera's relationship after not only this scene, but her 1:10:52.479 --> 1:10:54.559 finding out. Like, I think they were in the bedroom 1:10:54.720 --> 1:10:57.519 at night talking and he was like, hey, I didn't 1:10:57.520 --> 1:10:58.240 I didn't betray you. 1:10:58.320 --> 1:11:02.240 I was trying to take my daughter. Wait, I don't remember. 1:11:02.360 --> 1:11:02.719 I thought. 1:11:02.880 --> 1:11:04.479 I thought he came in the room and he said something. 1:11:04.560 --> 1:11:08.439 She was like, you need to go somewhere else. Yeah, 1:11:08.479 --> 1:11:10.599 that was at the end, but he was basically saying. 1:11:11.680 --> 1:11:13.760 He came in and she had her little attend with 1:11:13.920 --> 1:11:15.880 her and she was going to go. 1:11:15.960 --> 1:11:24.240 She like you rightious, It's cool. Yeah, Damon fucked up. 1:11:24.280 --> 1:11:26.480 He's gonna have to do a whole lot of apologizing. 1:11:26.800 --> 1:11:28.280 Do you think she ever gonna forgive him? I think 1:11:28.320 --> 1:11:30.040 I think she. I think he's on the outs now. 1:11:30.080 --> 1:11:31.479 I don't think him. 1:11:31.640 --> 1:11:32.120 I don't think. 1:11:32.720 --> 1:11:34.559 I don't think Nara has an option. 1:11:34.760 --> 1:11:38.519 She's gonna have to forgive him because she don't have 1:11:38.640 --> 1:11:41.439 no other damon without him. 1:11:41.800 --> 1:11:45.439 She's not that smart, mic, I mean really, I don't 1:11:45.439 --> 1:11:48.519 think that she understands that he is the best asset 1:11:48.600 --> 1:11:51.360 to her team. And he's going to try to cut 1:11:51.439 --> 1:11:54.520 him out because of this. That's going to be detrimental 1:11:54.560 --> 1:11:54.800 to her. 1:11:56.360 --> 1:12:00.200 You probably, I think I think this is a low 1:12:00.240 --> 1:12:04.920 blow name because she ain't with him. 1:12:05.520 --> 1:12:09.240 No, no, no, Remember remember the table and her listening 1:12:09.280 --> 1:12:11.439 to him. I think are going to be different. He's 1:12:11.479 --> 1:12:13.400 going to be able to sit there because she don't 1:12:13.439 --> 1:12:15.880 want to look dumb. But she ain't never gonna listen 1:12:15.960 --> 1:12:18.040 to nothing anyway. 1:12:18.600 --> 1:12:20.479 She was trying to justify when she was talking to 1:12:20.560 --> 1:12:21.040 White World. 1:12:22.240 --> 1:12:24.599 She was, but she was saying it in a way 1:12:25.200 --> 1:12:27.720 where it was like she's trying to justify to her. 1:12:27.800 --> 1:12:30.559 So she can so you can't sho on me. 1:12:30.800 --> 1:12:33.120 Yeah, Like, well more so, I think so she can 1:12:33.160 --> 1:12:34.960 be at peace with having been in the same room 1:12:35.000 --> 1:12:35.360 with him. 1:12:35.760 --> 1:12:37.400 But remember in that scene when she was talking to 1:12:37.479 --> 1:12:38.320 Day but she was like. 1:12:55.200 --> 1:13:14.599 Cut out, something were like something was buzzing in my ear, Michael, Mike. 1:13:14.680 --> 1:13:16.440 Mike almost flipped the whole table. 1:13:18.360 --> 1:13:23.519 Rod and reached for status ros said, whoa, whoa. I 1:13:23.600 --> 1:13:32.920 heard in my ear, remember that, Mike, And it was 1:13:33.040 --> 1:13:35.760 genuine too. It was it wasn't no, it was genuine. 1:13:35.840 --> 1:13:36.960 Rob was really concerned. 1:13:36.960 --> 1:13:42.719 He was like, you know, you didn't that door behind 1:13:43.080 --> 1:13:43.439 I know? 1:13:44.320 --> 1:13:54.640 Oh my god, twist the chair up, laughing in. 1:13:54.720 --> 1:14:05.320 His said who out of me? I'm sorry, Nick, You're good. 1:14:05.360 --> 1:14:09.200 I was just gonna ask about well, I was just gonna. 1:14:09.200 --> 1:14:12.960 I was basically saying, oh my god, I feel like 1:14:14.439 --> 1:14:17.160 I feel like Ranera saying that to Massario. It was 1:14:17.200 --> 1:14:19.800 about like her justifying being in the same room moving 1:14:19.840 --> 1:14:23.840 forward with Damon, even though in that scene she spoke 1:14:23.920 --> 1:14:26.479 with Damon, she was really upset, saying like, I had 1:14:26.520 --> 1:14:29.439 this skull in my room because I thought it was 1:14:29.479 --> 1:14:32.559 the skull of the dead person, that the death of 1:14:32.560 --> 1:14:34.479 the rider that killed my son, and to think it 1:14:34.520 --> 1:14:35.880 was fake and that she the way she threw it 1:14:35.880 --> 1:14:37.360 in the fire, and how angry she was, it was 1:14:37.400 --> 1:14:39.240 just kind of like I'm done with you, because Ma 1:14:39.320 --> 1:14:42.200 Sarah was right, like you have to ask yourself that 1:14:42.320 --> 1:14:44.559 question now that in her head, like what is Damon 1:14:44.640 --> 1:14:46.920 willing to do or like willing not to tell you, 1:14:47.160 --> 1:14:49.679 or like how deceitful was he willing to be when 1:14:49.720 --> 1:14:51.760 he lied about the death, like who was the killer 1:14:51.760 --> 1:14:52.160 of your son? 1:14:52.240 --> 1:14:55.960 So, but it wasn't this, It wasn't the CEO. And 1:14:56.000 --> 1:14:56.880 that's what he was saying. 1:14:57.240 --> 1:14:59.679 It was a lie. He lied to her. He did lie. 1:15:00.439 --> 1:15:04.519 It wasn't it was absolutely was he killed. 1:15:04.800 --> 1:15:08.559 It was a person tried to pass it off like 1:15:08.600 --> 1:15:11.080 it was his like it was it was right or 1:15:11.120 --> 1:15:12.960 whatever the girl, because he didn't want to kill his 1:15:13.080 --> 1:15:18.640 daughter the intention, but he was deceit. 1:15:19.640 --> 1:15:19.680 This. 1:15:19.880 --> 1:15:21.479 He hitted me up to seed. 1:15:22.479 --> 1:15:25.479 And in my opinion, they he had no reason to 1:15:25.560 --> 1:15:27.800 lite because they just brought her home like he said 1:15:27.840 --> 1:15:30.160 they was gonna do that. They could have brought this 1:15:30.360 --> 1:15:31.880 like when he found her, he could have brought her home, 1:15:31.920 --> 1:15:34.840 like listen, she messed up, but this is my daughter. 1:15:34.880 --> 1:15:36.439 You can't kill her. We're gonna have to find another way, 1:15:36.439 --> 1:15:37.519 because that's what they're gonna do now. 1:15:37.880 --> 1:15:39.800 Yeah, And even if she didn't, even if he didn't 1:15:39.800 --> 1:15:42.080 bring her home, he still could because she didn't. 1:15:41.840 --> 1:15:43.719 Want to go because she knew what would have been waiting. 1:15:44.120 --> 1:15:45.240 So even if he didn't. 1:15:45.000 --> 1:15:47.240 Bring her home, he still could have sat near it. 1:15:47.200 --> 1:15:48.879 Down and been like look, it's a situation. 1:15:50.680 --> 1:15:52.840 What you want me to do because it's my baby. 1:15:52.840 --> 1:15:55.360 You never understood why he didn't just her. 1:15:55.280 --> 1:15:57.080 And that's what Raniero said, like, who do you think 1:15:57.120 --> 1:15:59.439 I am? Like, look at how she's treating Alison and 1:15:59.520 --> 1:16:02.080 Helena and her own siblings, Like she wasn't gonna kill 1:16:02.160 --> 1:16:06.439 the Denaire Daniel whatever the boy name is when she 1:16:06.479 --> 1:16:09.519 thought it was like looking he's been treating other people, 1:16:09.760 --> 1:16:11.760 You really think I would have come after your kid 1:16:11.920 --> 1:16:14.280 like that, Like that's my stepdaughter, Like you really thought 1:16:14.320 --> 1:16:15.479 that's how I would have handled her? 1:16:15.520 --> 1:16:20.320 Like who do you think I am? 1:16:20.360 --> 1:16:24.200 I'm with you, Rod, I think I don't think it's over. 1:16:24.560 --> 1:16:27.880 I think she just hurt. Yeah now yeah, And I 1:16:27.920 --> 1:16:29.680 think that she's. 1:16:29.479 --> 1:16:30.080 Trying to. 1:16:32.960 --> 1:16:39.120 Sort through the deceitfulness of Damon by rationalizing why he 1:16:39.240 --> 1:16:42.799 did it. And she may, uh, you know, think about 1:16:43.120 --> 1:16:46.240 maybe put herself in that situation when he had a 1:16:46.280 --> 1:16:49.519 good reason for lying to her. And I think she 1:16:49.760 --> 1:16:52.760 understands that. It's just how she's gonna sort through all 1:16:52.800 --> 1:16:56.240 these different emotions she has knowing that that happened and 1:16:56.320 --> 1:16:59.360 now seeing that the one person because she said she 1:16:59.439 --> 1:17:01.880 thought it was some that she can hate and it's 1:17:01.920 --> 1:17:04.040 not it's this whole. 1:17:03.840 --> 1:17:07.240 It's like it's family. How's she gonna deal with that ship? 1:17:09.680 --> 1:17:11.479 And we know that Bailey ain't gonna leave her out 1:17:12.320 --> 1:17:14.080 to dry because she came into the room like, look, 1:17:14.120 --> 1:17:16.439 baby girl, like we're gonna you're gonna start a new again. 1:17:20.240 --> 1:17:20.920 Get it together. 1:17:21.040 --> 1:17:24.439 We're gonna get you together, We're gonna clean you up. 1:17:25.240 --> 1:17:27.400 Yeah, I got this nigga name Alan. 1:17:27.600 --> 1:17:30.720 You can have his brother say, we can make we 1:17:30.800 --> 1:17:32.400 can make Western Rose great again. 1:17:38.800 --> 1:17:40.720 No, No, the other one might take her though. 1:17:40.920 --> 1:17:43.720 No, Adam, Adam, Adam looking at uh, he looking at 1:17:43.760 --> 1:17:54.560 Beyonce and he seeing Salade saying, I'm just saying, is 1:17:54.600 --> 1:18:00.880 beautiful too, But ain't. 1:17:59.240 --> 1:17:59.640 It ain't me? 1:17:59.720 --> 1:18:08.920 A who would you think the taste? Right? God, I'm 1:18:08.960 --> 1:18:09.439 just saying. 1:18:16.120 --> 1:18:20.160 We did see Lord larriis Agon and Thailand Lanister on 1:18:20.200 --> 1:18:22.120 their way to a ship to get to another place, 1:18:22.640 --> 1:18:24.519 but then they noticed the road that they're going on 1:18:24.920 --> 1:18:28.160 is leading to another army that's loyal to the Queen Ken. 1:18:28.240 --> 1:18:30.719 What did you think of the scene with Lord Laris 1:18:30.720 --> 1:18:34.000 and Thailand Lanister when they were trying to decide which 1:18:34.000 --> 1:18:35.560 one to stay, which once should go. 1:18:39.120 --> 1:18:40.599 Larius ain't ship. 1:18:41.320 --> 1:18:45.639 He knows he ain't ship, and the king even though 1:18:45.640 --> 1:18:51.120 he ain't ship, and he acknowledges his faults, and he 1:18:51.320 --> 1:18:54.200 was like, look, I'm a cripple, what you What am 1:18:54.240 --> 1:18:55.439 I going to really do out here? 1:18:56.160 --> 1:18:57.839 He said, So I'm gonna leave. 1:18:59.280 --> 1:19:02.519 If but I'll stay if the king you know, want 1:19:02.560 --> 1:19:06.840 me to stay what you know, but I ain't gonna 1:19:06.840 --> 1:19:09.400 be able to help. And the king you know, let 1:19:09.479 --> 1:19:11.640 him go and he was like, all right, bounce. He 1:19:11.680 --> 1:19:13.719 wrapped him up and then he was out and made 1:19:13.760 --> 1:19:14.400 complete sense. 1:19:14.439 --> 1:19:16.679 He's right, I can't. I can't really do ship. 1:19:17.080 --> 1:19:18.760 He was, but he was trying to suce it up 1:19:18.800 --> 1:19:20.280 and can He was like, oh yeah, I'm gonna make 1:19:20.280 --> 1:19:22.720 sure they sing songs about you. 1:19:22.880 --> 1:19:32.439 He's got he got you, He's he got He's a 1:19:32.439 --> 1:19:32.960 mouth piece. 1:19:33.520 --> 1:19:36.160 Nick, he can he can talk, man, That's what it's 1:19:36.240 --> 1:19:40.080 his job. Bro. So he knew that that's all he wanted. 1:19:40.240 --> 1:19:43.519 So I'm going to once you give me my passage, 1:19:44.160 --> 1:19:46.439 I'm gonna say all the things you want to hear 1:19:47.680 --> 1:19:49.880 so you'll know that you did not die in vain. 1:19:51.680 --> 1:19:52.599 It was still some. 1:19:53.080 --> 1:19:56.320 Because because my thing is like, sure, you're you're crippled, 1:19:56.320 --> 1:19:59.760 You're a crippled man, but none of y'all are gonna 1:19:59.760 --> 1:20:01.160 be a go up against his army. 1:20:01.200 --> 1:20:01.800 So it don't matter. 1:20:02.000 --> 1:20:05.080 Don't it don't matter you the strongest guy in the group, 1:20:05.400 --> 1:20:06.160 It doesn't matter. 1:20:06.240 --> 1:20:07.519 All of y'all are gonna die. 1:20:08.439 --> 1:20:09.120 He was, but he was. 1:20:10.560 --> 1:20:16.120 Yeah, he's emphasising he looking at it right like, I 1:20:16.120 --> 1:20:16.840 ain't gonna die. 1:20:16.920 --> 1:20:20.120 They right might because I got an excuse I already like. 1:20:20.200 --> 1:20:23.479 I feel like the reason that I like Laura's character 1:20:23.479 --> 1:20:27.519 is because he didn't built this shit out every different 1:20:27.560 --> 1:20:30.360 way that you can do it, any kind of simulations 1:20:30.360 --> 1:20:32.600 that you got, any kind of different scenarios. 1:20:32.880 --> 1:20:34.400 He didnet did all of them. 1:20:34.560 --> 1:20:36.920 So even in this scenario when he like, hey, you 1:20:36.960 --> 1:20:39.320 know what, y'all go over there, y'all do that thing, 1:20:39.640 --> 1:20:42.160 I'm gonna stay over here and I'm gonna do my 1:20:42.280 --> 1:20:45.479 thing and I'm gonna, I promise you, I'm gonna survive 1:20:45.640 --> 1:20:46.639 more so than y'all will. 1:20:47.120 --> 1:20:49.280 I like that about his character. 1:20:49.680 --> 1:20:52.960 I think that brings an element to the show that 1:20:53.040 --> 1:20:56.040 we haven't seen before, even with Game of Thrones adding 1:20:56.080 --> 1:20:59.800 into this world as to what it's one character is like, Nah, 1:21:00.000 --> 1:21:02.400 I ain't fucking with it. I'm gonna do this ole 1:21:02.439 --> 1:21:04.519 thing that I figured out by myself, and I'm gonna 1:21:04.520 --> 1:21:06.360 make it versus time with y'all. 1:21:07.120 --> 1:21:07.880 And he didn't. 1:21:07.880 --> 1:21:11.160 He kind of talk Thailand whatever his name is, inter 1:21:11.240 --> 1:21:14.400 Stain didn't he kind of convinced him to stay or 1:21:14.439 --> 1:21:15.640 talk to. 1:21:17.280 --> 1:21:19.120 You. Run if you want to. They gonna get you anyway. 1:21:20.320 --> 1:21:22.920 Yeah, And so he was like, all right, well you're right, 1:21:22.920 --> 1:21:25.240 I'm gonna god and stay and fight and not Leader King. 1:21:27.320 --> 1:21:32.599 No, that wasn't his stance. Yeah, it wouldn't. I you right, 1:21:34.800 --> 1:21:38.760 it wasn't it. I wouldn't. It definitely wasn't that. Mike. 1:21:38.800 --> 1:21:41.720 Do you think that Clarius was being a bitch ass 1:21:41.760 --> 1:21:44.360 nigga or was he keeping it a bean and just 1:21:44.400 --> 1:21:46.960 saying like, look, I can't even if we had a 1:21:46.960 --> 1:21:48.559 good army, I couldn't help with the fight. 1:21:50.240 --> 1:21:51.960 I think he was keeping it the bean by being 1:21:51.960 --> 1:21:57.000 a bitch. There was there was nothing he could really do. 1:21:57.160 --> 1:22:01.120 But I mean, but also, I mean, you don't need 1:22:01.160 --> 1:22:02.479 a foot to shoot an arrow. 1:22:02.640 --> 1:22:04.240 Like he can go in the hill. 1:22:04.120 --> 1:22:09.559 And shoot an arrow, but he has stability, stability, he 1:22:09.600 --> 1:22:11.800 can stay on the horse and shoe. He he was 1:22:11.880 --> 1:22:15.480 using the excuse to leave. He was gonna leave regardless. 1:22:16.280 --> 1:22:18.200 But that's his character though, that's him. 1:22:19.479 --> 1:22:19.800 I know. 1:22:20.080 --> 1:22:22.600 I'm not saying this was a different person or he 1:22:22.760 --> 1:22:24.440 used this crippled privilege. 1:22:24.960 --> 1:22:28.160 Hey, you got to sometimes can Yeah, And that last 1:22:28.200 --> 1:22:29.160 parking spot right. 1:22:29.000 --> 1:22:31.639 There, I got a little I got a little tag. 1:22:31.720 --> 1:22:33.760 I can put it right there my rib and I'm 1:22:33.880 --> 1:22:34.879 tired and everything. 1:22:35.800 --> 1:22:41.400 You know, shade fight, I ain't got a. 1:22:41.360 --> 1:22:46.960 Park right now, to your point, to your point, whoever 1:22:47.000 --> 1:22:48.880 brought it up, he could he could have at least 1:22:48.920 --> 1:22:50.400 offered like, yeah, I could. I could be in the 1:22:50.800 --> 1:22:52.680 at the top of the hill with arrows because that 1:22:52.760 --> 1:22:54.760 foot does work as a kickstaid again. 1:22:58.880 --> 1:23:08.439 He can stay up right. Oh god, But. 1:23:10.160 --> 1:23:13.160 I thought this, this sequencing of scenes was actually the 1:23:13.200 --> 1:23:14.960 best part of this episode. I don't know if you agree, 1:23:15.040 --> 1:23:18.920 name because Agon was brave as hell, and the scene 1:23:19.720 --> 1:23:22.960 he was talking cash it because when we see at 1:23:23.080 --> 1:23:28.320 night the army approaches Thailand and Agon he goes and said, listen, 1:23:28.320 --> 1:23:31.400 bro I'm not running no more like I'm standing whatever 1:23:31.439 --> 1:23:38.120 toes I have left standing off and he made a 1:23:38.120 --> 1:23:40.439 whole speech and everything, and then we see I don't 1:23:40.439 --> 1:23:42.400 know who predicted I think most of us talked about it. 1:23:42.520 --> 1:23:44.599 The dragon wasn't dead came back. 1:23:45.040 --> 1:23:47.599 I tried to tell y'all, bro, I try to tell 1:23:47.640 --> 1:23:50.240 y'all what you're saying. 1:23:50.280 --> 1:23:52.920 Spike. I did say the drag was alive. You said 1:23:53.040 --> 1:23:55.080 dragon was dead. I was the only person here to 1:23:55.120 --> 1:23:58.000 say that dragon was alive. I was the only person 1:23:58.040 --> 1:24:00.759 here to say that dragon was alive. You will live, Spike. 1:24:02.120 --> 1:24:05.000 Watch it, he did. I think just about everybody said it. 1:24:05.120 --> 1:24:07.920 I know, I know you Mike, and Ran said. 1:24:08.280 --> 1:24:11.880 That the dragon was a live right see see I remember. 1:24:14.080 --> 1:24:19.200 But did you think about it? 1:24:19.720 --> 1:24:23.240 I will say I can see myself big half and halfway. 1:24:23.400 --> 1:24:28.360 I definitely said that coming back, and I was so wrong. 1:24:29.000 --> 1:24:31.920 I knew once they wasted a scene on him talking 1:24:31.960 --> 1:24:33.080 about he's alive and. 1:24:34.680 --> 1:24:37.920 Something, Yeah he's alive, because they wouldn't have did think 1:24:37.960 --> 1:24:38.439 you wouldn't. 1:24:39.160 --> 1:24:40.600 I didn't think you were right. So they put it 1:24:40.640 --> 1:24:44.320 in the in the previews review. I was like, ship 1:24:44.360 --> 1:24:44.920 to see. 1:24:46.800 --> 1:24:51.000 Last week the previews are great, Mike, go watch the previews. No, no, no, 1:24:51.080 --> 1:24:52.320 before the episode starts. 1:24:52.920 --> 1:24:58.840 Yeah, like the recap, recap, recap, I got you and 1:24:58.840 --> 1:25:00.599 they put when they put them up in the recap, 1:25:00.640 --> 1:25:03.000 I was like, ship, this motherfucker might be alive. 1:25:04.360 --> 1:25:06.000 They would they were, They wouldn't do that. But there 1:25:06.040 --> 1:25:10.439 that jumped up came around the corner, like his damn twin. 1:25:11.280 --> 1:25:19.160 You could have said on camera, what the I hope 1:25:19.160 --> 1:25:28.080 he's boring something. 1:25:29.080 --> 1:25:34.519 I thought you were pissing, Spike. It sounds at the 1:25:34.520 --> 1:25:40.400 beginning of and Juice, So then what the fuck? 1:25:41.400 --> 1:25:44.960 But not did you think? But I thought was braved 1:25:45.000 --> 1:25:47.080 this episode. I was surprised killed that. 1:25:47.120 --> 1:25:48.800 Nigga and got some bolls. He was like, I can 1:25:48.880 --> 1:25:53.880 kill people too. Yeah, I don't I think that. I 1:25:53.880 --> 1:25:56.160 think the truth be told. I don't think it's that he. 1:25:56.160 --> 1:25:56.599 Killed that man. 1:25:56.640 --> 1:25:59.320 I think it's Larry's reading him fulfilth the way he 1:25:59.400 --> 1:25:59.760 did a. 1:25:59.760 --> 1:26:02.600 Couple episode back and telling him like you ain't you 1:26:02.720 --> 1:26:06.360 really ain't ship. So now he's like, well, if it's 1:26:06.560 --> 1:26:08.320 if I'm gonna go out, let me go out. 1:26:08.400 --> 1:26:10.360 I mean, I don't want that to be my legacy. 1:26:10.439 --> 1:26:13.120 So I'm gonna go out with some kind of valor, 1:26:13.200 --> 1:26:14.160 with some kind of honor. 1:26:14.800 --> 1:26:18.000 So I mean, I do not want to see no 1:26:18.160 --> 1:26:20.160 arc with like I know we talked about this and 1:26:20.200 --> 1:26:23.040 like some sort of character arc and character development of this. 1:26:23.439 --> 1:26:26.400 Of a guy, I'm not really here for it. 1:26:26.560 --> 1:26:29.479 However, it was kind of dope the way the dragon 1:26:29.520 --> 1:26:32.519 came and barn everything up. I mean they I saw 1:26:32.680 --> 1:26:34.800 like me going around, like when they say you and 1:26:34.840 --> 1:26:36.800 your pet started to look alike and they both got 1:26:36.800 --> 1:26:42.519 the So, I mean, I thought it was it was 1:26:42.560 --> 1:26:45.200 the second best scene of this episode. 1:26:45.280 --> 1:26:48.200 It's really good writing because I was just saying, man, 1:26:48.200 --> 1:26:51.040 why would they just kill him already? And then for 1:26:51.120 --> 1:26:53.479 them to do that and kind of make you change 1:26:53.479 --> 1:26:55.640 your tune a little bit on him and like, wait 1:26:55.680 --> 1:26:57.720 a minute, it might be something here, you know what 1:26:57.760 --> 1:27:00.400 I mean, especially with a with a jack though dragon, 1:27:00.720 --> 1:27:02.840 you know what I mean? Like, so I don't know, 1:27:02.960 --> 1:27:05.640 Like I was thinking, like, damn, I did not like 1:27:05.680 --> 1:27:07.640 this guy, and I'm still don't quite like him, but 1:27:08.280 --> 1:27:10.479 I am I'm a little bit interested. Again, it did 1:27:10.600 --> 1:27:12.559 piqued my interest to see what they do with this. 1:27:13.960 --> 1:27:16.080 So yeah, I just left this scene thinking like, no, 1:27:16.200 --> 1:27:16.960 this is good ass. 1:27:17.040 --> 1:27:19.559 Right, Well, Rod, I got a question for you, since 1:27:19.560 --> 1:27:22.519 you liked this saying so much, how dangerous is a 1:27:22.600 --> 1:27:23.559 dragon that can't fly? 1:27:24.439 --> 1:27:25.960 He can't fly? You don't think you can fly? 1:27:26.439 --> 1:27:28.880 I don't think you can fly? He had to fly, 1:27:28.960 --> 1:27:35.240 because how's we have gotten there? He walked? He you 1:27:35.280 --> 1:27:38.360 think he drag You think that dragon fly? Yeah? That 1:27:38.439 --> 1:27:41.960 dragon can't fly? He can? I think he healed up. Yeah, 1:27:42.000 --> 1:27:43.120 he came. He came out there. 1:27:43.160 --> 1:27:48.840 He looked like Vi Sias but aesthetically he's fucked up, 1:27:48.840 --> 1:27:49.800 but he can definitely fly. 1:27:50.120 --> 1:27:51.439 And he's pissed now too. 1:27:52.160 --> 1:27:55.280 Yeah, because he had those bombs around him and stuff 1:27:55.320 --> 1:27:56.519 like that picking out of him, and ship. 1:27:58.000 --> 1:28:00.559 Looked. Yeah, they came up. 1:28:00.840 --> 1:28:02.160 That's what is. 1:28:05.920 --> 1:28:07.320 How do you know how he looks like? 1:28:08.960 --> 1:28:12.519 Good? Point? He heard anybody talking about it? 1:28:14.000 --> 1:28:14.200 Yeah? 1:28:14.320 --> 1:28:15.920 Could that be quarts? If he can't fly? 1:28:17.040 --> 1:28:19.720 He can fly? I like it. If you couldn't, yeah, 1:28:19.760 --> 1:28:21.920 I think that'd be dope. How's he gonna get around? 1:28:22.120 --> 1:28:27.559 He's even why even bringing back from the dead. 1:28:28.280 --> 1:28:39.240 Do you think the dragon is useless if he can't fly? Yes, now, Lizard. 1:28:38.680 --> 1:28:42.400 Us in this episode, everybody in that army was stupid 1:28:42.439 --> 1:28:43.760 as hell because they heard and. 1:28:43.680 --> 1:28:45.960 Saw that damn dragon. They didn't run and they asked 1:28:46.040 --> 1:28:48.200 him run. Well they got. 1:28:48.320 --> 1:28:51.400 They run up and got done up. But any other case, 1:28:51.439 --> 1:28:52.720 that's not going to be the case, you know what 1:28:52.720 --> 1:28:55.559 I'm saying, Like, like he would have to travel to 1:28:55.640 --> 1:28:58.400 get to someone like that. That's that's not how that works. 1:28:58.880 --> 1:29:00.640 It's the only time that that's gonna work where you 1:29:00.640 --> 1:29:04.200 can walk up and burn people on fire as a dragon. 1:29:05.280 --> 1:29:06.800 Any other time you gotta fly up. 1:29:07.520 --> 1:29:09.599 I don't think so. I think I think a god. 1:29:09.880 --> 1:29:12.400 I think how different where he at where you gotta be. 1:29:12.840 --> 1:29:16.080 I think the dragon symbolizes a goon struggle too. They 1:29:16.080 --> 1:29:18.960 both they both limited, They both limited but still powerful. 1:29:19.600 --> 1:29:22.759 No, I agree that they are both limited but still powerful. 1:29:23.120 --> 1:29:26.879 There's still got to be a way that that dragon 1:29:27.160 --> 1:29:33.080 and a gon can It's hurt power without the normal 1:29:33.240 --> 1:29:35.080 means what we know them for. 1:29:36.000 --> 1:29:40.200 Maybe he can't fly that fast or I'll say. 1:29:40.000 --> 1:29:42.720 That, I'll give him that, but to not fly at all. 1:29:43.080 --> 1:29:45.400 Yeah, he can fly. He can definitely fly. 1:29:45.640 --> 1:29:48.680 Yeah, it may be a little shaky, a little shaky flight. 1:29:48.680 --> 1:29:50.599 But yeah he might lean to one five. 1:29:51.000 --> 1:29:55.360 Right, They gotta spend time. 1:29:58.160 --> 1:30:00.960 We didn't see Na Massia have an the conversation at 1:30:01.040 --> 1:30:03.920 night after she learned about dam miss the seat, but 1:30:04.320 --> 1:30:10.200 now Nera questions she's questioning everybody and including Massarah's true intentions. Mike, 1:30:10.280 --> 1:30:14.280 what did you think of this conversation, especially after seeing 1:30:14.320 --> 1:30:16.479 everything that Massarah went through this episode, do you think 1:30:16.479 --> 1:30:17.960 she's setting herself up for failure? 1:30:19.160 --> 1:30:22.800 Yes, yes, I think this show has been a lot 1:30:22.840 --> 1:30:25.000 about people not listening to the people around them. 1:30:25.640 --> 1:30:28.679 And when the other I guess you can call her hooker. 1:30:28.720 --> 1:30:29.679 I don't know, it feels weird. 1:30:29.720 --> 1:30:31.920 But when the other lady came and told her, like, look, 1:30:32.040 --> 1:30:35.599 everybody near they see you as a whore, I don't 1:30:35.640 --> 1:30:38.080 know why it's not clicking. So then she's still going 1:30:38.120 --> 1:30:42.960 to Ranera talking like she's valuable. You're yeah, you're valuable 1:30:43.000 --> 1:30:47.000 for now. But the second Ranera wins, she has no 1:30:47.160 --> 1:30:47.640 use for you. 1:30:50.160 --> 1:30:52.360 And my thing was, I thought it was a mistake 1:30:53.240 --> 1:30:56.320 for Massa to even sleep with Ranera, just because she's 1:30:56.360 --> 1:30:59.479 proven the point of her friend again that like they're 1:30:59.479 --> 1:31:01.840 all like, are they really seeing you as just like 1:31:01.880 --> 1:31:04.160 someone they like to talk to before they had sex. 1:31:04.600 --> 1:31:06.639 Because the way hey, lou ray Ren there laid back 1:31:06.680 --> 1:31:08.200 like a nigga who was about to get his dick suck. 1:31:08.280 --> 1:31:11.320 Yeap she did with that she did. 1:31:13.720 --> 1:31:18.400 Yep, you know what, God, the gods liked me, like 1:31:18.439 --> 1:31:23.040 what yeah, yeah. 1:31:21.960 --> 1:31:25.200 She laid back with no no, all nonverbal. 1:31:26.479 --> 1:31:33.880 Like yeah she was she was laying it on thick 1:31:34.000 --> 1:31:36.720 though she was She was definitely laying on thick. 1:31:37.160 --> 1:31:40.000 But I like that though, Kim, because it was. 1:31:41.520 --> 1:31:48.559 One sense of her not really understanding if Raniera knew 1:31:49.520 --> 1:31:52.320 that she had the secret that she was holding from 1:31:52.360 --> 1:31:56.880 Alison and the baby, and it was also another. 1:31:58.479 --> 1:31:59.760 Persona in the sense of. 1:32:00.600 --> 1:32:02.240 I'm just trying to do this so I can get 1:32:02.280 --> 1:32:06.080 in good. I like the way that they wrote that, Yeah, 1:32:06.080 --> 1:32:06.680 she got in here. 1:32:06.880 --> 1:32:15.439 No, I agree, huh none, Okay, now, I agree. I 1:32:15.439 --> 1:32:20.479 think it's it's definitely that that conversation really struck a 1:32:20.560 --> 1:32:23.200 chord with her, and I think she realized that that's 1:32:23.200 --> 1:32:26.640 what she's there for, and she's going to do her 1:32:26.720 --> 1:32:28.680 duty and stay around for that. 1:32:28.840 --> 1:32:30.639 So yeah, yeah, all right. 1:32:30.680 --> 1:32:33.120 I think I'm with Kem. I agree. 1:32:33.520 --> 1:32:37.519 She's she's starting to treat Branera the way she treated 1:32:37.680 --> 1:32:43.439 Damn and understanding that even though even though Ranera may 1:32:43.600 --> 1:32:44.519 think it's more. 1:32:44.360 --> 1:32:46.160 Than what it is, it's really not. 1:32:46.600 --> 1:32:51.240 So let me manipulate the what I know will keep 1:32:51.280 --> 1:32:51.839 me around. 1:32:52.600 --> 1:32:55.400 Oh that's what y'all think. I think I think it 1:32:55.439 --> 1:32:57.080 was a mistake doing that, but I think that's what 1:32:57.120 --> 1:32:59.840 it is. Yeah, I don't think it's gonna work. 1:33:02.160 --> 1:33:06.720 But maybe she's desperate too at this point. 1:33:06.960 --> 1:33:09.120 M hmm. You said that's what y'all think. What do 1:33:09.200 --> 1:33:15.160 you think, Mike, I'll bet I mean I wasn't thinking 1:33:15.160 --> 1:33:18.879 that she was manipulating Ranera. 1:33:19.080 --> 1:33:23.280 I think she genuinely likes Ranera, and she genuinely thinks 1:33:23.360 --> 1:33:26.160 Vernera likes her and thinks that she's valuable. 1:33:26.479 --> 1:33:28.800 I think that she's just she's I think she's being 1:33:28.960 --> 1:33:32.280 kind of naive in this in this moment. Mm hmmm. 1:33:33.120 --> 1:33:34.280 I read it totally differently. 1:33:34.360 --> 1:33:37.439 I think that she thinks Ranera is naive and that 1:33:37.560 --> 1:33:41.760 she can get over on her doing these type of 1:33:41.800 --> 1:33:42.920 things that she's doing to her. 1:33:43.439 --> 1:33:45.720 And see that's the case, then why did the other 1:33:45.760 --> 1:33:49.800 hooker tell her? You realize everybody here just sees you 1:33:49.840 --> 1:33:54.400 as a whore. And she looked she looked hurt. 1:33:53.880 --> 1:33:58.360 When she heard that. She was like, dang, they do huh. 1:33:58.400 --> 1:34:03.680 The truth, the truth, but exactly the truth hurts. But 1:34:03.760 --> 1:34:06.320 if she already knew that, then it wouldn't have hurt. 1:34:06.960 --> 1:34:07.640 If she she. 1:34:09.320 --> 1:34:10.160 She already knew it. 1:34:10.240 --> 1:34:13.480 I think hearing her friends say that, and then especially 1:34:13.520 --> 1:34:16.960 seeing the way Ramier did not believe that Damon would 1:34:17.000 --> 1:34:20.559 do that. It made her realize, oh, Ship's right. 1:34:20.720 --> 1:34:22.120 Okay, she's right. 1:34:22.320 --> 1:34:26.040 And if that's the case, let me solidify my position. 1:34:25.840 --> 1:34:26.760 And that your best. 1:34:27.920 --> 1:34:30.160 I think she actually thought that she worked herself out 1:34:30.160 --> 1:34:32.439 of that position of just being seen as that thought. 1:34:32.600 --> 1:34:37.519 I think she thought that she god okay. 1:34:37.360 --> 1:34:40.439 Yes, because at the end of the day she kicked 1:34:40.479 --> 1:34:45.320 Damon out the room and then went them as serious. 1:34:45.360 --> 1:34:48.120 But that's what That's why I thought that Syria thought 1:34:48.120 --> 1:34:49.800 she really did value her. 1:34:50.320 --> 1:34:56.040 But okay, I get what you'll say. We didn't move 1:34:56.080 --> 1:34:56.400 on to that. 1:34:56.439 --> 1:34:58.599 I guess the most interesting part of this episode how 1:34:58.600 --> 1:35:02.040 it closes out where we finally get to see who 1:35:02.200 --> 1:35:04.320 Ormond was talking about as far as his peace on 1:35:04.360 --> 1:35:07.719 the board, and we learned that Olof is the secret 1:35:07.760 --> 1:35:12.400 mold that he has inside of King's landing, Ken, what 1:35:12.439 --> 1:35:15.480 did you think of Olof in this episode? 1:35:15.560 --> 1:35:16.519 With this conversation with. 1:35:16.640 --> 1:35:22.600 Ormond completely caught me off guard because I did not 1:35:23.439 --> 1:35:27.040 see this coming. I think I do have a question 1:35:27.560 --> 1:35:31.679 was has he been the spot this whole time or 1:35:31.880 --> 1:35:33.280 is he turning him now? 1:35:35.560 --> 1:35:36.600 After the slap. 1:35:38.240 --> 1:35:40.400 From from they've been talking for a minute because that 1:35:40.479 --> 1:35:43.439 he said, remember last time they've been talking for a minute. 1:35:44.160 --> 1:35:48.519 Yeah, I was. This was the first conversation. I don't 1:35:48.520 --> 1:35:50.599 think he's a spy though. I think that. 1:35:52.080 --> 1:35:55.360 I think that that that after that that pop in 1:35:55.400 --> 1:35:58.720 the mouth, I think Ormond kind of started talking to 1:35:58.800 --> 1:36:02.720 him then and he's been trying Yeah, yeah, I think 1:36:02.760 --> 1:36:05.519 he's been trying to do something over for a minute. 1:36:05.720 --> 1:36:07.320 That ship was funny. He's like, man, hey, man, the 1:36:07.320 --> 1:36:09.280 street's talking. Man, I heard you got slapped up in this. 1:36:12.000 --> 1:36:14.080 I heard you popping off like that. Bro. 1:36:19.040 --> 1:36:22.599 Yeah, yeah, I think it's I don't know, I can't 1:36:22.640 --> 1:36:23.760 pinpoint the exact time. 1:36:23.920 --> 1:36:26.320 I think it maybe before the slap that he's been 1:36:26.320 --> 1:36:26.960 talking to him. 1:36:27.000 --> 1:36:28.800 I think the slap was just I think the slap 1:36:28.920 --> 1:36:32.280 was just more of the confirmation that needed to really 1:36:32.320 --> 1:36:34.200 buy into what Ormond was doing. But I think it 1:36:34.240 --> 1:36:38.360 was before the slap because it seemed like between their 1:36:38.400 --> 1:36:40.880 last conversation and when they met up just then was 1:36:40.920 --> 1:36:43.600 the slap. So it was like, that's why he was like, 1:36:43.640 --> 1:36:46.280 I heard from the last time we talked, you know 1:36:46.320 --> 1:36:46.679 what I'm saying. 1:36:46.680 --> 1:36:49.080 I heard you got And the reason the reason why 1:36:49.080 --> 1:36:51.360 I was asking was that I was who I was 1:36:51.360 --> 1:36:51.840 thinking about. 1:36:51.880 --> 1:36:53.880 The gold clothes and how all of them were murdered. 1:36:54.160 --> 1:36:56.080 That's what I was wanting to get that close to 1:36:56.120 --> 1:36:59.960 them outside of unless it was somebody that. 1:37:00.280 --> 1:37:02.160 I was thinking who given that, I was saying, who 1:37:02.200 --> 1:37:04.000 give him that information of where they would be at? 1:37:05.120 --> 1:37:07.040 Yeah, that's the killing nobody. 1:37:07.280 --> 1:37:10.760 Yeah, yeah, he just said that. 1:37:10.840 --> 1:37:14.240 For Yeah, I never thought about that until you just 1:37:14.280 --> 1:37:14.600 said it. 1:37:15.640 --> 1:37:18.080 And I could play into like why he was disrespecting 1:37:18.080 --> 1:37:21.640 the gold close in the industry that when I was 1:37:21.720 --> 1:37:22.719 confused about. 1:37:22.520 --> 1:37:25.160 That, I'm like, why would he speak to them that way? 1:37:25.400 --> 1:37:28.800 You're right, mm hmm mm hmmm. 1:37:28.920 --> 1:37:33.960 And then like rout to your point as far as 1:37:34.000 --> 1:37:37.439 like how he's been acting. Obviously he's always wanted the castle. 1:37:37.520 --> 1:37:41.080 He wanted the crib as well. When Ormond offered him, Like, hey, bro, 1:37:41.680 --> 1:37:44.120 I got the master of the scenes locked up. You 1:37:44.120 --> 1:37:47.920 could take his whole kingdom, Bros. Like I've been asking 1:37:47.960 --> 1:37:49.479 for a house and you're giving me a whole You 1:37:49.520 --> 1:37:53.760 give me the whole block. Like he can't say no 1:37:53.840 --> 1:37:55.960 to that, He said, you. 1:37:55.960 --> 1:37:57.640 Tell him everything he wanted to. He like, man, a 1:37:57.640 --> 1:38:00.479 man should should be able to enjoy his Uh, what say. 1:38:02.479 --> 1:38:05.360 Spoiled? I forgotten word to you. But I thought I 1:38:05.400 --> 1:38:08.639 was like, man, he really laying it all thick man? 1:38:09.320 --> 1:38:11.200 It was to me it was lou It was the 1:38:11.200 --> 1:38:15.679 way that looked like he looked at the camera. Your 1:38:15.880 --> 1:38:17.960 He's a goofy person, but this one was kind of 1:38:17.960 --> 1:38:19.920 creepy when he was like, nah, I want them, I 1:38:19.920 --> 1:38:21.519 want them to burn and he just smiled. 1:38:21.560 --> 1:38:24.479 I'm like, bro, this this he's insane because. 1:38:24.720 --> 1:38:28.160 I felt like he thought that everything that he felt 1:38:28.200 --> 1:38:30.240 like he was lied to y'all betrayed me. 1:38:30.520 --> 1:38:30.760 Yep. 1:38:31.160 --> 1:38:34.920 It really was yeah, yeah, all the ship that I 1:38:34.920 --> 1:38:38.439 thought I signed up for, it wasn't this y'all trying 1:38:38.439 --> 1:38:39.960 to get me to go do this thing that I 1:38:40.000 --> 1:38:42.880 don't even give a fuck about. What I do give 1:38:42.880 --> 1:38:45.720 a fuck about is having a castle and having these 1:38:45.760 --> 1:38:49.120 things that come with being high born, and y'all telling 1:38:49.120 --> 1:38:51.439 me that, oh, I can't help you. 1:38:51.479 --> 1:38:55.400 So yeah, of course he's gonna flip. Yep. But can 1:38:55.479 --> 1:38:59.000 you trust Ormond to come through on what he's saying too? 1:38:59.600 --> 1:39:01.800 But look, it don't even matter if I can trust you, 1:39:01.840 --> 1:39:04.000 if you can come through, Kenny, you're telling me what 1:39:04.080 --> 1:39:08.280 I want to hear exactly, versus Rania and the people 1:39:08.320 --> 1:39:10.120 on her side are telling me stuff that, like, I 1:39:10.760 --> 1:39:14.599 didn't even sign up for this. I don't want a dragon. 1:39:14.800 --> 1:39:17.880 I don't care about any of this. None of this 1:39:17.920 --> 1:39:20.320 shit matters to me. But if you're telling me I 1:39:20.320 --> 1:39:23.439 can get a castle, I can get some hot chick 1:39:23.479 --> 1:39:27.000 that's going to be my queen at this castle, then yes, 1:39:27.120 --> 1:39:29.360 I want to do this. But if you're telling me, oh, 1:39:29.640 --> 1:39:31.840 ride dragons for me and go to the wars for 1:39:31.960 --> 1:39:34.160 me and kill people from me, no, I don't want 1:39:34.200 --> 1:39:34.559 to do that. 1:39:37.840 --> 1:39:38.920 Go ahead, bron, I'll just. 1:39:38.880 --> 1:39:40.320 Say that's what he signed up for, though he knew 1:39:40.360 --> 1:39:41.240 that's what he signed up for. 1:39:41.960 --> 1:39:44.000 Yeah, he thought he was going to be getting something 1:39:44.040 --> 1:39:45.960 out of it, and he's gotten nothing. And that's what 1:39:46.000 --> 1:39:47.800 I was gonna say in response to, like, can he 1:39:47.920 --> 1:39:49.400 trust Orman to come through? 1:39:49.880 --> 1:39:52.320 It doesn't matter because right now I don't. 1:39:52.080 --> 1:39:55.200 Have shit shit, And just like Spike said, I don't 1:39:55.240 --> 1:39:57.599 have shit right now. But at least this dude's telling 1:39:57.640 --> 1:40:01.360 me I am gonna have something. Ranera's just being like, 1:40:01.560 --> 1:40:03.640 get the fuck out my face. You can't even go 1:40:03.680 --> 1:40:05.360 have a be with your friends. Shut up and just 1:40:05.720 --> 1:40:07.320 wait for me to tell you what to do next. 1:40:07.600 --> 1:40:09.240 And he's empowering him too, he was. 1:40:09.439 --> 1:40:11.320 I think he was like complimenting him, like you're gonna 1:40:11.320 --> 1:40:12.920 be able to show who the true person that you 1:40:13.040 --> 1:40:13.840 are and all that stuff. 1:40:13.880 --> 1:40:16.280 Like he's building him up. Everybody over there. 1:40:16.280 --> 1:40:19.200 In King's Land has been breaking him down, either by 1:40:19.240 --> 1:40:22.600 his physical restrictions from Ranera or by mental limitations, with 1:40:22.800 --> 1:40:24.120 Damon saying like, bro, you ain't shit. 1:40:24.160 --> 1:40:25.000 You lucky to be here. 1:40:26.600 --> 1:40:29.160 Ormand is giving him like that type of game, because 1:40:29.240 --> 1:40:31.880 like when someone's trying to take your girl and tell 1:40:31.920 --> 1:40:33.840 him the girl, oh get man, ain't doing shit for 1:40:33.880 --> 1:40:37.439 you anyway, Just come over here. He's he's telling him 1:40:37.520 --> 1:40:39.880 exactly what he needs to be telling him in that moment. 1:40:40.120 --> 1:40:41.840 That's something that Ormond is good at, and that's something 1:40:41.920 --> 1:40:43.040 Rinera is terrible at. 1:40:43.240 --> 1:40:46.080 Oh so you're talking about the same dirty back in 1:40:46.160 --> 1:40:47.679 that Peter Parker did. 1:40:47.800 --> 1:40:51.479 To Zadiya in The Brand New Day. I don't think 1:40:51.479 --> 1:40:55.599 he dirty back information he didn't have for it. 1:40:55.920 --> 1:40:58.640 Hey, that's still dirty back in one on one, but 1:40:58.640 --> 1:41:03.920 that's on the review. But but yeah, n do you 1:41:03.960 --> 1:41:08.519 feel like it was justified and switching his side, like 1:41:08.640 --> 1:41:11.400 switching side like this justified? 1:41:11.560 --> 1:41:19.200 No, nigga, you went to riding dragons in the middle 1:41:19.200 --> 1:41:21.240 of a war. It's like going to sign up for 1:41:21.280 --> 1:41:27.200 the army and being mad, you gotta fight, so nigga, 1:41:27.240 --> 1:41:29.320 you gotta wait till the war is over before you 1:41:29.439 --> 1:41:33.080 get your reward. I don't know, so no, I mean, 1:41:33.120 --> 1:41:36.200 but it's it's in Olof's character, like, this is not 1:41:36.920 --> 1:41:38.720 this isn't super surprising to me. 1:41:38.880 --> 1:41:42.880 We all saw this kind of coming. So no, it's not. 1:41:43.240 --> 1:41:48.120 It's not. It's as expected. Do I think it's justified? 1:41:48.240 --> 1:41:52.120 Not necessarily, but it's it's as expected. 1:41:53.800 --> 1:41:56.840 I think for me, it's like, at least with the 1:41:56.960 --> 1:41:59.200 army you get army benefits and he ain't got none 1:41:59.200 --> 1:41:59.400 of that. 1:41:59.439 --> 1:42:00.880 So I get I. Yes, that's the only other way 1:42:00.880 --> 1:42:01.720 I could think about it. 1:42:01.920 --> 1:42:04.280 But the question that I'm now asking myself that y'all 1:42:04.680 --> 1:42:06.679 brought up in a different way, was like, can Orman 1:42:06.760 --> 1:42:07.559 trust Ulof? 1:42:08.439 --> 1:42:11.960 Because as much as Ulof. 1:42:11.600 --> 1:42:14.040 Is like riding form and giving them all this information, Now, 1:42:14.439 --> 1:42:16.479 if he's able to be switched to switch sides based 1:42:16.520 --> 1:42:21.559 off of just like material things, I feel like something. Again, 1:42:22.000 --> 1:42:23.640 A lot of things can happen, but I feel like 1:42:23.720 --> 1:42:27.960 they it's interesting that he's trusting him with all this 1:42:28.120 --> 1:42:31.920 information as far as like where he's at, what he's 1:42:32.000 --> 1:42:35.040 up to. Ulof can easily tell somebody else this and 1:42:35.080 --> 1:42:36.080 it can go a different way. 1:42:38.040 --> 1:42:40.519 True. True, Can you trust him? 1:42:40.520 --> 1:42:44.800 I don't know. Whenever we've seen isn't smart enough to 1:42:45.400 --> 1:42:50.680 use him as a double agent. But if presented with 1:42:50.720 --> 1:42:54.600 the opportunity to switch sides, he probably would switch to 1:42:54.640 --> 1:42:55.439 preserve himself. 1:42:55.479 --> 1:42:59.720 I can see that, Yeah. 1:42:58.320 --> 1:43:02.680 But I think the Orman is smart enough to identify that. 1:43:02.800 --> 1:43:05.759 If I could split him so easily, he could also 1:43:05.880 --> 1:43:08.960 easily be flipped. So I don't think is gonna be 1:43:08.960 --> 1:43:09.840 around very long. 1:43:11.920 --> 1:43:16.400 That's unfortunate. Easy come, easy go. Any other thoughts on 1:43:16.439 --> 1:43:19.720 this episode? 1:43:20.960 --> 1:43:21.639 Super solid? 1:43:22.040 --> 1:43:22.240 Yep. 1:43:23.240 --> 1:43:26.760 All right, well those are our thoughts on this episode 1:43:26.840 --> 1:43:28.800 of House of the Dragon. Please let us know what 1:43:28.800 --> 1:43:31.679 you guys think. FPS podcast is the Reddit thread that's 1:43:31.720 --> 1:43:34.599 also our handled for ig and Twitter, and we'll catch 1:43:34.600 --> 1:43:37.719 you on the season finale next week out peace. 1:43:38.120 --> 1:43:38.360 Nice