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Speaker 1: only been two years for us before the two of

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Speaker 2: That would be more of a theme for GMV since

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair. We're also middle of the day. That's fair.

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Speaker 1: that's pretty easy, right, Manic Monday. Manic Monday's good. That's

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Speaker 3: Although I never understood.

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Speaker 1: Now, is this also a sign that I'm probably either

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Speaker 3: Thank you. That actually is a fair question. It is

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon to you on a Wednesday, Honday, Wednesday. Eddie

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Speaker 1: But last night with Indiana playing Michigan and Purdue playing UCLA.

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Speaker 2: Would you like to know why I didn't want to

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Speaker 1: It, Uh, Jake, Let's be honest. A great point. How

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Speaker 1: They should be a soccer or baseball school, if anything.

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Speaker 1: Excellent point when you say basketball school, they're only a

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Speaker 2: You can make the case they have been a basketball school,

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Speaker 1: You're talking about Purdue, right, No, IU? Oh will Purdue

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Speaker 1: the same has always been true of Indiana. Now, Purdue

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Speaker 3: And last night they were never in that game. There's

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Speaker 2: It's just been the theme lately, it feels like with

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Speaker 1: Know the Again, I go back to this, Eddie, I

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Speaker 1: I've said this one hundred times. Ucla USC Washington, Oregon

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Speaker 1: pay in terms of the money that comes in basketball

435
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Speaker 1: compared to football. And it's like in Shaw Shank Redemption

436
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: when it comes to football toil how the money. Well

437
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: that is such a good movie. I am thrilled. Eddie

438
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 1: Shaw Shank redemption is going to be for you, Eddie Garrison, Okay,

439
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 1: what you reborn nineteen ninety eight, Shaw Shank redemption will

440
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: be for you like Indiana fans watching that game and

441
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: that interception to seal the national championship in football, or

442
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 1: you watching the Cincinnati Reds when a home game in

443
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: Game seven. You're gonna watch it and say, I had

444
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,959
Speaker 1: never seen this, but this literally is the greatest thing

445
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Speaker 1: I've ever seen.

446
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

447
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Speaker 2: I don't think he would compare to seeing the Reds

448
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 2: win a game seven World Series.

449
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Speaker 1: I understand, but it is a level of greatness that

450
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 1: you have yet to see.

451
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Speaker 2: That that's, like all you football Jake, A miracle.

452
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: It was a miracle. I mean, it's been a two

453
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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. It wasn't the underdog, plucky miracle story

454
00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: people are making it out to be because they were

455
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 1: real good last year and they're really good this year, right,

456
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: I mean, but yes, it is a miracle in totality

457
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: when you consider where they've come from. Last night though,

458
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Speaker 1: Purdue Ucla, what went wrong for the Boilers down the

459
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Speaker 1: stretch because Ucla close strong and Brian Neubert, who's going

460
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Speaker 1: to join us from Golden Black. Next, I believe he's

461
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Speaker 1: in Lax. Brian Neubert. We'll talk a little about the game,

462
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Speaker 1: but we got to talk also about the fact that

463
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Speaker 1: he has the same level of fascinating interest and hobby

464
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Speaker 1: as I and I was literally, I'm like kindred spirit,

465
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Speaker 1: this guy brother from another mother. When I saw what

466
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Speaker 1: he did in La he likes going to cemeteries even better.

467
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Speaker 1: We'll explain next. So Brian Nubert is at Lax. Is

468
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Speaker 1: he at Lax or is he in Denver?

469
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Speaker 3: Already?

470
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Speaker 2: Lax We discussed a different time and he said I

471
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Speaker 2: might be able to do that. I might be a

472
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Speaker 2: my I might be at Denver for my connecting flight,

473
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Speaker 2: my layover, but I'm not sure. I was like, well,

474
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Speaker 2: can you do twelve thirty before you're flying out from

475
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Speaker 2: Lax to Denver. He goes, yeah, sure, I can make

476
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Speaker 2: that work.

477
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Speaker 1: So we'll check in with Brian just a second before

478
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Speaker 1: he gets to Denver, which is, you know, Denver. And

479
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 1: this is another thing Brian and I can talk about.

480
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: The Denver Airport is like all linked to the Illuminatis

481
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Speaker 1: you know, yes, yeah, an you way too, huh, even

482
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Speaker 1: the new one. Talking about the new one, the new

483
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Speaker 1: airport in Denver. And this goes back to if you've

484
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Speaker 1: been to the new Denver Airport, they have a huge

485
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Speaker 1: bronco when you pull into the airport and it has

486
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 1: these like ruby red eyes and the I don't even

487
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Speaker 1: think this is rumor.

488
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Speaker 3: It's a terrible, unfortunate fact. There was i'll say, allegedly a.

489
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Speaker 1: Worker during the development of that huge bronco at the

490
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Speaker 1: airport that was fatally injured in an accident building that bronco.

491
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Speaker 1: And then somehow or another, you know, some website in

492
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Speaker 1: deep dark places of the web that probably I'm glad

493
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Speaker 1: I don't know a lot about. There's a bunch of

494
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Speaker 1: people that believe that the Denver Airport is attached to

495
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Speaker 1: the Illuminati and has all kinds of hidden tunnels and

496
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Speaker 1: all kinds of weird stuff. But Brian Nuberg joins us.

497
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Speaker 1: Now excuse me, Java House Pielaport guest line perdue last

498
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Speaker 1: night short in against UCLA. Brian, I'm going to ask

499
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Speaker 1: before we get to the real topic of discussion, which

500
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: is you and I have the same interest when driving

501
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: around Los Angeles.

502
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Speaker 3: But let's talk basketball first.

503
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Speaker 1: Mick cronin last night and we'll play this coming up,

504
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 1: was very open about his displeasure for the travel for Ucla.

505
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Speaker 1: They kind of had to know what they were signing

506
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Speaker 1: up for. How much of last night's close for Ucla

507
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Speaker 1: against Purdue, if you were going to chalk it up

508
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Speaker 1: to anything, was fatigue or travel anyway a factor for

509
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Speaker 1: Purdue and not being able to close last night?

510
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Speaker 5: No, I don't think so. Purdue plays a lot of guys.

511
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 5: I think that they're built to close from a basketball perspective,

512
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Speaker 5: I think you have to give you See a lot

513
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Speaker 5: of credit for closing out.

514
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Speaker 4: The way they were.

515
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Speaker 5: You know, they had reason to be desperate, and I

516
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 5: think they kind of I'd like it. And you know,

517
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 5: pretty turned the ball over at the wrong time, and

518
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 5: that's sort of the common denominator when Purdue loses games

519
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 5: the last five years or so, it's almost always heavily involved.

520
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 5: It's heavily involved turnovers, turnovers that come in bunches, you know,

521
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 5: things like that. And they turned the ball over twice

522
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Speaker 5: in the last two minutes after they're up six. You know,

523
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 5: Braden Smith would tell you, and this adds up that

524
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 5: his arm got hit on the one that he picked

525
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 5: sixth to Tray Coffin ran, but that's neither here nor there.

526
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Speaker 4: I had anything to do with it.

527
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Speaker 5: I think it was Ucla and it was a seventeen

528
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Speaker 5: percent three point shooter making a big three in a

529
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Speaker 5: big moment.

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Speaker 3: I thought last night, And.

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Speaker 1: Tell me if I'm wrong here, I thought down the

532
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Speaker 1: stretch that and I really for that game, open disclaimer,

533
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: only really saw it down the stretch. I thought Purdue

534
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: defensively struggled is maybe the wrong word, but they allowed

535
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Speaker 1: UCLA's gods to get into operating area for them, and

536
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: typically Purdue clamps down, Like if you look at what

537
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: they did against USC, they were able to make plays

538
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: against USC down the stretch that they did not do

539
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Speaker 1: against Ucla. How much of Ucla last night, who themselves

540
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Speaker 1: were coming off kind of an arduous travel schedule, how

541
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Speaker 1: much of it was simply Ucla schematically might have found

542
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Speaker 1: something that worked against Purdue. And is there any concern

543
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Speaker 1: that others could copycat, if you will, anything that may

544
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Speaker 1: have worked well.

545
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Speaker 5: Produe is big, They've got big centers, and that they

546
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Speaker 5: have a big power forward. Everybody's going to Everybody tries

547
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 5: to go after that. Everybody tries to put them in

548
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 5: pick and pop stuff. Everybody tries to iso their big guys,

549
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 5: and not everybody has Donovan Vent, so they can try

550
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Speaker 5: to They can try to replicate it all they want,

551
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 5: but you know, pulling it off is another thing. Donovan

552
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 5: Dent was a superhero last night. Obviously, Tyler Billodeou can

553
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 5: really stretch the floor and make threes, and that's a

554
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 5: pretty tough time nation to guard when you're big. It's

555
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 5: a pretty tough combination of guard period. So people can

556
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 5: try to replicate it, and people will try to replicate it,

557
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 5: but whether or not they can pull it off with

558
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Speaker 5: their personnel is kind of the other question.

559
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Speaker 4: You know, Oscar.

560
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Speaker 5: Cluff's kind of putting a tough spot there because he

561
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 5: has to hedge Donovan Dent to prevent him from getting

562
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 5: the lane, but then he's got to recover to Tyler Bilodeau.

563
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Speaker 5: That's a really big ask for a six foot eleven,

564
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Speaker 5: two hundred and fifty pound guy. I know, people, I'm

565
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 5: sure people are wondering why Jack Benner wasn't on the

566
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Speaker 5: floor to switch screens things like that. Matt Painter's gonna

567
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 5: ride with his seniors. That means having Tray cooff and

568
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Speaker 5: round on the floor at the end of the game

569
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Speaker 5: for rebounding and experience, and had you had Benner out there,

570
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 5: that would mean Coffin Rn comes out. You have Benner

571
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Speaker 5: on Tyler Billadeaux and then Oscar cluffs at the rim.

572
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Speaker 5: Every decision you make in a game that close is

573
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Speaker 5: the wrong one. So yeah, it's a situation where everybody's

574
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Speaker 5: trying to attack, produce size on the perimeter. Everybody will

575
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Speaker 5: continue to try to attack produce size on the perimeter,

576
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Speaker 5: and it's just a matter of whether or not they

577
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Speaker 5: can pull it off the rest of the way.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy, Brian, because when you when you

579
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Speaker 1: think about Purdue, you know, you look at it and

580
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: this is the sign of a great team. Anytime they lose,

581
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: you think, what in the world happened? What's going on?

582
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: What's the you know, is there a problem? Is there turmoil?

583
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Speaker 1: You have seen this group and the maturation of this group.

584
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Speaker 1: How much I guess mental resolve did they have? Not

585
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Speaker 1: that going out and losing the game to the UCLA

586
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: is some huge deal, right, But are they the ted

587
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: Lasso Goldfish? Is this a group that says, you know what? Yeah,

588
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: so we dropped one, but we got Illinois coming up.

589
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: We got to turn it around, and then we got

590
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Speaker 1: Indiana at Indiana, which is a rivalry game. No problem.

591
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Speaker 1: Back on the focus, what has been your observation of

592
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Speaker 1: this group of handling the occasional adversity.

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Speaker 5: Well, well, I don't know what a ted Lasso goldfish is,

594
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 5: so I can't comment on.

595
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Speaker 3: Man, have you not seen Ted Lasso?

596
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 4: No, I have not.

597
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: Ted Lasso says you got to be a goldfish, meaning

598
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Speaker 1: that you can't have a memory.

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00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, I think Purdue has memories, and I think

600
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 5: they have been through every experience imaginable as a group

601
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 5: together and they have almost always responded really well. You've

602
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 5: never seen one loss become two losses become three losses.

603
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Speaker 5: They've always been really professional about these things. They've always

604
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 5: been really steady and really confident, and their messaging after

605
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 5: losses has always been refined, and they've always been fine.

606
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 5: So I think this is a situation where you don't panic.

607
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 5: I think Purdue is fine. I'm sure they think they're fine.

608
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 5: They just had a bad last two minutes of the

609
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Speaker 5: game on.

610
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 4: The road.

611
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 5: In a league where you have to bake in road losses,

612
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 5: you don't know when they're going to come. You don't

613
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 5: know where they're going to come, but you know they're

614
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Speaker 5: going to come. And I think a couple of years ago,

615
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 5: when Pretty lost at Northwestern in December, you know, in

616
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 5: the UH, I think double overtime, it seemed like the

617
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 5: end of the world. You know. I think when the

618
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 5: expectations are higher around your program, the social media discussion

619
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 5: gets a little overheated at times, and there's no way

620
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 5: that doesn't get the players.

621
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Speaker 4: It's just kind of the world we live in.

622
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 5: But when the sky's falling, you know, I think that

623
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Speaker 5: Purdue generally kind of handles that really well.

624
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 4: And that Northwestern game was.

625
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Speaker 5: Nothing, and that team went on to be as professional

626
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 5: and consistent and unimpressed with itself as probably any team

627
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 5: I've ever seen, and they ended up going on to

628
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 5: the Final four and won the league by a mile.

629
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Speaker 5: And I'm not necessarily saying that's guaranteed to happen for

630
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 5: this team, but I don't think one loss is going

631
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 5: to bleed into the next couple of games.

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Speaker 6: Here.

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Speaker 5: At the end of the day, it was a two

634
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 5: minutes and I don't think it's any cause for any

635
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 5: sort of alarm. That doesn't mean there's not going to

636
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 5: be alarm among people who are alarmists, but among the

637
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 5: people who matter, I don't think there's gonna be any

638
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 5: sort of panic whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: Brian.

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Speaker 1: Someone passed this along to me, and I'm hoping that

641
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm reading this correctly. Okay. Someone passed along to me

642
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: that you had posted in a message board that while

643
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles you did drive past the spot of

644
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Speaker 1: the infamous OJ crime scene, allegedly because you are quote

645
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: a demented person who's into places of infamy. Was that

646
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: your post? Yes, outstanding? Okay, So I'd like to know

647
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: where else you've been in LA because you're talking to Basically,

648
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: I could run my own tour service of infamous places

649
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: that where terrible things have happened but yet I have

650
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: a fascination with them across the United States, and you

651
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Speaker 1: and I could do a five hour podcast on this perhaps.

652
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Speaker 4: Okay.

653
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 5: So on my first of my two days off, I

654
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 5: let's see, I started at Sofi Stadium, tried.

655
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 4: To see the Intuit Dome.

656
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 5: I didn't think I could get in there, so I

657
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 5: didn't try.

658
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 4: And then I drove.

659
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:16,959
Speaker 5: Up the coast to Santa Monica, up through Manhattan Beach

660
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 5: and all that stuff, and tried to get into Dodger Stadium.

661
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 5: Couldn't get in there, it's gated up. Drove through Chinatown

662
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 5: because of the movie. What else did I do? Drove

663
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 5: through Hollywood a little bit. I've been there before, but

664
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 5: I just wanted to refresh my memory and it wasn't

665
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 5: a positive refreshment of my memory. Just kind of drove

666
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 5: around all day, and then yesterday I wanted to drive

667
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 5: by the recording studio where Sublime recorded their self titled

668
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 5: album many many years ago. Couldn't really see anything from

669
00:34:59,080 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 5: the roads.

670
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: So so far a fruitful trip.

671
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 5: Kind of kept moving, and then when I got up

672
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 5: to Ucla, I just drove around some more, went by

673
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 5: the OJ house. Didn't want to get too far out

674
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 5: of my out of my region for fear of hitting

675
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 5: on predictable traffic and being late for the game.

676
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 4: So I just kind of drove around.

677
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 5: Ucla for a while. That was pretty much it. Okay,

678
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 5: So did you go by the far as much ground

679
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 5: as I could? Did you go by OJ's house which

680
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 5: is no longer there? Or did you go past the

681
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 5: condo where the crime took place? I went by the

682
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 5: I went by the crime scene on on Bundy.

683
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, Yeah, and now where there are people like

684
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: gawking around because the owner now has put up like

685
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: a mini wall.

686
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 3: Correct.

687
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 5: I couldn't, you know, I was driving by, there was traffic.

688
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 5: I couldn't really stop and gawk, and I would have

689
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 5: felt funny about that anyway.

690
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: So I no, you got to do the quarry stopping

691
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: gok to it. As a matter of fact, that's the name

692
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: of my tour, the stopping gawk. I mean I can

693
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 1: take you there, I can take you past the Manson scenes.

694
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 3: We can do I mean, I can do the whole thing.

695
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: If you're into oh the Mansons forgough about that. I

696
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: mean you were right, listen, Brian, I'm not I'm not

697
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: by any means calling you a stop in Gawk Novice.

698
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: But if you were at the UCLA campus in bel Air,

699
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: you were basically at the base of the canyon where

700
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: the lobby or where the the Tate residence was, where

701
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: the Manson murders took place, and you were around the

702
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: corner from the Lobbyanca residence. But you know, again, I

703
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: don't want to And it's not like I found out

704
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: where spawn Ranch was and went there and found the

705
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: Manson cave. In those sorts of I mean that would

706
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: be totally demented.

707
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 5: Right, I'm gonna have to change his flight and get

708
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 5: my own far back.

709
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: Now, okay, sough tore back to the Les macabb and

710
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that you have been there before. But UCLA's

711
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: campus is unbelievable. Now poly Pavilion, to me, was a

712
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: little underwhelming. But the campus itself, literally every blade of

713
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: grass is perfectly green. It is like totally uniform, and

714
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: you ask yourself why anybody would go in anywhere else

715
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: after making an on campus visit. That was my impression.

716
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: But what say Brian.

717
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 5: Nuberg, unbelievable campus and the people who go there must

718
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 5: have the strongest like thigh muscles. Yes, ever, because everywhere

719
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 5: you go, it's it's up a hill, it's down a hill,

720
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 5: it's up a hill, down, it's down a hill.

721
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 4: And it is. But it is absolutely picturesque.

722
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 5: Paul Pavilion, you never would have known that was the

723
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 5: building they were playing in in the sixties. You would

724
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 5: have thought that they just built that thing ten years ago.

725
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 5: It looked so modern. I think they probably did what

726
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 5: Purdue did and they kind of retrofitted the old arena

727
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 5: into a more modern shell.

728
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 4: But there's not a whole lot of easily apparent evidence

729
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 4: of the old building.

730
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree, I bet that.

731
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: And but you know, because you walk in and you're

732
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: expecting to just like feel history, and I don't know

733
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: that you feel that. It's more like you feel like

734
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: multi sport, you know, complex or whatever else.

735
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 5: But yeah, you're expecting Hincklefield correct that you get the

736
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 5: shot in Steam Center.

737
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: That's exactly correct. All right, Brian, enjoy looking at the

738
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: macab of the Illuminati things in the Denver airport when

739
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: you have your layover and.

740
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 3: Safe travels back.

741
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 4: All right, Jake, Thanks man I.

742
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: Brian Nuberg joining us from lax Purdue last night on

743
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: the short end against UCLA. All right, coming up, we

744
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: are going to talk with Dustin. Now, what time is Dustin?

745
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: Did you say he's at two? Okay, Mike Nysa look

746
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: at one o'clock right, That is correct. We'll find out

747
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: the order of events for the Indiana celebration. And we

748
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: need to get into what Mick Cronan said because he

749
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: said something very very curious, did Mick Cronan? And it

750
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: ties into what we were talking about earlier. We'll get to

751
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: it here. Coming up.

752
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 3: The sharp dressed man.

753
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: Mick Cronan kind of is that when he's on the sidelines,

754
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: he does wore a coat and tied. Is he not

755
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: as the head coach for UCLA he does.

756
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the few coaches anymore.

757
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: One thing that I will readily admit that is a

758
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: mental hurdle of Jake Querry. I have forever confused Mick

759
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: Cronan and Chris Mack in terms of where they previously coached.

760
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: Mick Cronan, Xavier and then UCLA Chris Mack. Since no

761
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: Mick Cronan Cincinnati, Ucla, Chris Mack, Xavier, Louisville. Right, Yes,

762
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: always get those confused. But last night, and he's been

763
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 1: on this for a while, and open disclaimer, I don't

764
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: know Mick Cronan.

765
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: However, by the way, Chris Mack College of Charleston.

766
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: Currently or previously currently College of Charleston had to coach

767
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: by the name of John Crest that in like nineteen

768
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: ninety five, I wrote him a letter telling him how

769
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: impressed I was the fact he had an eighty two

770
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: percent winning percentage and I thought he would be a

771
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: good coach at Indiana. When Bob Knight retired and he

772
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: actually wrote me back, was like, that's a great compliment,

773
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: thank you. Maybe he was the Kurt Signetti that we

774
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: didn't know about. But Mick Cronin when I did when

775
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 1: Lance Stevenson was drafted by the Pacers or sometime during

776
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: that time, we had on Mick Cronin, Derek and I

777
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: did to discuss Lance Stevenson's time in Cincinnati, and he

778
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: was fabulous.

779
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: He was great, he was engaging, he was totally cool.

780
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: But he has been very outspoken about his displeasure with

781
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: the travel when it comes to the Big Ten for UCLA.

782
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: And he also said something very interesting at the end

783
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: of this clip. This is last night after UCLA's went

784
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: over Purdue.

785
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 7: I want to thank to Big Ten for giving us

786
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 7: five of our first seven on the road, bringing Purdue

787
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 7: here on Thursday night, where we don't get back to

788
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 7: in LA till Saturday night, and giving us the team

789
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 7: pick to win the league on a two days rest

790
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 7: after five of our first.

791
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: Seven on the road.

792
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 7: I really I want to thank the Big Ten for that.

793
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 7: It couldn't be much worse. Couldn't be much worse. Hey,

794
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 7: I don't think they care about basketball. That's just my opinion. B.

795
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 7: You know, look, man, and they ain't moving the city

796
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 7: of Los Angeles. I don't want them to, and they

797
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 7: damn sure I ain't moving Ucla and I don't want

798
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 7: them to. They were in the league in the Midwest,

799
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 7: so as that's just gonna be what it's gonna be.

800
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 7: But you ain't got to play five of your first

801
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 7: seven on the road and then come home and get

802
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 7: the team picked to win the league. On two days rest,

803
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 7: I had two Hall of Fame coaches sent me a text,

804
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 7: why do you play Perdue tonight? I just saw you

805
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 7: play Saturday at Ohio State. I said, I'll give you

806
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 7: one better. They've been here since Thursday.

807
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 3: Okay, and they won?

808
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:31,439
Speaker 4: Right?

809
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 1: But he is correct, there's your answer right there. First off,

810
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: it does surprise me, I'll be honest with you, when

811
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: all of this expansion was being discussed and UCLA and

812
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: USC to the Big ten and BYU two is what

813
00:41:59,040 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: league is?

814
00:41:59,440 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 3: BYU?

815
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: Now are they like in the Big twelve? And then

816
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: isn't West Virginia also in the Big twelve? Or South

817
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: Florida is in the Big twelve?

818
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 3: Maybe? Am I right about that? Like?

819
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: Like BYU and South Florida play or California playing in

820
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: the ACC. He's correct, But at the same time, everyone

821
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: knew this was going to happen. Everyone knew this. During

822
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: all of this, everyone was asking, wait a minute, how

823
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: are they going to handle this from a travel standpoint?

824
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: How are they going to handle this logistically? And all

825
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: of us were told. All of us were told, we

826
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: got that figured out. Don't worry about it. It'll be fine.

827
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: This is the expansion of these leagues because of the

828
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: interest in the leagues, and the Big Ten has always

829
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: been the forefront because of the Big Ten network, in

830
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,479
Speaker 1: the footprint of going across the country and everything else,

831
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 1: and oh how the money rolls in. And Mick Cronin's correct,

832
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: it's all about football. It's all about football. Why do

833
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: you think Why do you think Indiana all of a

834
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: sudden went out and got Kurtz Signetti and their national

835
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: champions and Indiana's football stadium looked like the Rose Bowl does.

836
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 3: Four years ago.

837
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: Four years ago on an Indiana October game against Akron

838
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: or whatever, there's thirty thousand people. There are twenty five

839
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,479
Speaker 1: thousand people there the Rose Bowl. In a regular season

840
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: game for UCLA, there's twenty five thousand people there thirty

841
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: thousand people there, and Indiana saw that and said, you

842
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: know what, the money is coming from the football side

843
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: of things, so we got to go and put our resources.

844
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: And that's why Indiana flipped the script within their own

845
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: department and said, football is suddenly going to be our

846
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: source of relevance. We're going after we are going to

847
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: be dominant in football. When I say dominant, I don't

848
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: mean necessarily on field of the original thought, but we

849
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: are going to football is going to dominate our focus

850
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: financially speaking, within our athletic department. He's exactly right. And

851
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: you know what, Mick, I hate saying it like you're

852
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: late to the party.

853
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 3: You should have.

854
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: Figured that out when you played last year in Bloomington

855
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: against Indiana and looked up and saw that the balconies

856
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: were empty, and then looked down and saw that the

857
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: Indiana football team was ranked within the top ten and

858
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: made the College Football Playoff. That should have told you

859
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 1: right there what athletic departments in the Big ten are prioritizing.

860
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 1: And in terms of the travel, He's probably not wrong

861
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: in the lunacy of it all. But when you're talking

862
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: about that number of schools over those many states and

863
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: that many thousands of miles between them. There's always going

864
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: to be some sort of outlier piece to the jigsaw

865
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: puzzle that just doesn't quite fit when you're trying to

866
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: figure those schedules out. And yes, I feel for him,

867
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: but at the same time, what in the heck did

868
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: he think was going to happen? Well, UCLA, USC, Oregon, Washington,

869
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: they got nobody to complain to because they if they

870
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: didn't know this going in, I don't know what to

871
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: tell them, but it is true football. Whyse you get

872
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: a week and you play one game a week, You

873
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: don't play two in a week, three in a week, whatever.

874
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: But it all goes back to the Bob Knight rant

875
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: at Wisconsin on ESPN back in nineteen eighty seven. You know,

876
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: we got ESPN all they care about. These kids got

877
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: class in the morning and we're here at nine o'clock

878
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: playing in Wisconsin and da da da da. And then

879
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: where did Bob Knight go as soon as he quit

880
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: coaching with DESPN?

881
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 3: You know why?

882
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 1: Because they got money. Money talks. Money talks, So too

883
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: is Mike Nisilik from the Bloomington Herald Times, and he

884
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: joins us next any had a last night short end

885
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: of things basketball at Michigan I think probably doesn't overly

886
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: stun anyone. Football, of course, still events going on for

887
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 1: the national champion.

888
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 3: I what year will it be at EE.

889
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: Before it becomes just like normal to say, like, yeah,

890
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: the national champion Indiana Hoosiers.

891
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: It's a great question after they do it again next year.

892
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: And this is what always confuses me from a football standpoint.

893
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: This is what always confuses me from a football standpoint. Indiana,

894
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,919
Speaker 1: Are they the twenty twenty five or twenty twenty six

895
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: national champions? You know, it's like the Colts when the

896
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: Colts won the Super Bowl. With you go by this season,

897
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 1: I realize Indiana's the twenty twenty five national champion, even

898
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: though they won the championship almost a month into twenty

899
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 1: twenty six. It thoroughly confuses me. And I always get

900
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, when the Clemson years, Alabama years, whatever, people

901
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: are like, oh, the nineteen LSU team, and I'm like, well,

902
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: was that twenty nineteen or twenty twenty because that was

903
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: the last.

904
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 3: One right before, And I get totally confused.

905
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: But Indiana is your twenty twenty five national championship despite

906
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: the fact that's in January of twenty twenty six when

907
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: they wont it joining us now, Java House Peel and

908
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: poor guest Line. Java house dot com is the website.

909
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: Jake twenty five is the discount code for twenty five

910
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: percent off. Mike Nizelik joins us from the Bloomington Herald Times,

911
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: and Mike, let's get to this the the order of

912
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: events before we go back and take a look at

913
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: everything that's happened here, the upcoming schedule, if you will,

914
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: for Indiana fans as it relates to continuing to soak

915
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: in everything with this football team. What is upcoming now

916
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 1: in terms of the celebrations.

917
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, you know, some players are making some

918
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 8: appearances around town. I know, Mint Fernana Mendoz is going

919
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 8: to be out at the Bloomington Dick Sporting Goods, you know,

920
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 8: some stuff like that. But I mean the biggest thing

921
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 8: will be Saturday. Obviously, they have a celebration plans, I

922
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 8: believe at Memorial Stadium. I don't know if like a

923
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 8: sort of itinerary has been out, but you know they've

924
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 8: released some details about when fans can get there, you know,

925
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 8: timing of the events. So that'll be the big kind

926
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 8: of blowoff, and then obviously players will start kind of

927
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 8: going their separate ways as they you know, a lot

928
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 8: of these guys get ready for you know, they graduated

929
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 8: a ton of seniors and obviously a lot of draft

930
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 8: hopeful so they'll be on their way to sort of

931
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 8: solidify their draft stock.

932
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: Now I'm curious of this, and I don't know if

933
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: you know this or not, but I saw that it's

934
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: only a thirty minute thing happening on Saturday, correct at

935
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: Memorial Stadium.

936
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 8: I did not see the exact time because I was

937
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 8: flying this morning and did not see I thought, I mean,

938
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 8: I would assume, like I thought, maybe an hour would

939
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 8: be what it would be, but I did not see

940
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 8: it exactly.

941
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 3: The weather's going to be brutal, So that's the reason

942
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 3: I asked.

943
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that was the yeah, And I know, I

944
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: get it, Mike. It's it's hard. You know, there's really

945
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: kind of nowhere to do. You know what exactly is planned?

946
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: Is it just a stage, couple of speeches, trophy presentation,

947
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: and then you know, throw some toilet.

948
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 8: I would assume that they were they were still formulating

949
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 8: those plans when they got kind of on the plane

950
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 8: you know, on on Monday, because they didn't I mean

951
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 8: on Tuesdays they didn't fly back. They had a winners

952
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 8: press conference, they were still in Miami Tuesday morning, didn't

953
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 8: get back to I mean you saw kind of videos

954
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 8: of obviously them kind of the buses they flew the

955
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 8: back into Minneapolis, so that was still being worked out.

956
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 8: And you know, like this is all sort of you know,

957
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 8: there's no manual in place right right, like this is

958
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 8: all like new thing. You know, we didn't know that's

959
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 8: on page fifty five our championship celebrations for football, Like

960
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 8: this is all new territories. So they're started working through that.

961
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 8: And I mean, like you said, I mean the timing

962
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 8: of it. You got kids that have to kind of

963
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 8: go on. You got the coaching staff sort of moving

964
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 8: on now. You know, they've got things they've got to

965
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 8: accomplish here before you know, the next couple of weeks

966
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 8: when they do get some time off. So you don't

967
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 8: have a lot of options. I mean, really Saturday and

968
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 8: Sunday were it. And I mean the weather doesn't look

969
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 8: like it's going to be cooperating, but I mean that's

970
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 8: really the window you had. Uh, it's just kind of

971
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 8: the nature of the beast. Yeah, I guess it is.

972
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 8: I'm looking at one one thirty. Yes, I mean that's

973
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 8: it'll be brief, probably because the weather's probably contributing to that.

974
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 8: Like you said, I've dge a couple of speeches and

975
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 8: show the trophy off and just kind of celebrate and

976
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 8: let the fans see it.

977
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, So let's go back to this this particular

978
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: and we've broken down everything that happened in terms of

979
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: the game itself. But and to use a media term

980
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: like to kind of advance the story, the next if

981
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: you will step for all of this would be number one,

982
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: and that is retention of roster and rounding out of

983
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: roster of pieces that will no longer be there. We

984
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: know about Alberta Mendoza. Are there other players that would

985
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: enter the portal? I'll begin with that question.

986
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 8: Back up off at the linementer today, I was Evan Lawrence.

987
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 8: I believe, I mean, you're gonna get I think guys

988
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 8: a little bit lower down the roster. But like I've

989
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 8: kind of viewed it as there's not a lot of

990
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 8: fat on the roster still because of the Mones seniors

991
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 8: you got, you got a lot of young guys, and

992
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 8: so I mean there's going to be opportunity for playing

993
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 8: time at a lot of positions next year, and so,

994
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 8: you know, I don't necessarily know, especially when you've got

995
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 8: a team now in theory has championship aspirations. Why why

996
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 8: do you necessarily leave so quickly? You know, it would

997
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 8: be different if you were in sort of a you know,

998
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 8: a rough spot, but I don't think that's that's the

999
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 8: case anymore, and so I wouldn't be as work, you know.

1000
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 8: You know, obviously their surprise Alberto is a surprise considering

1001
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 8: kind of what the talk was from even directly from

1002
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 8: him leading into uh this week, you know, his decision

1003
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 8: to leave, but you know, that can always happen. I

1004
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 8: think the draft decisions are a little more intriguing. I

1005
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 8: think Ponds, Uh, he had just announced kind of got

1006
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 8: announced by the Senior Bowl that he's going to be participating.

1007
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 8: That's likely a sign that he's he's going to you know,

1008
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 8: an announcement for him will probably be forthcoming about the draft.

1009
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 8: Carter Smith said he's coming back, which was I think

1010
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 8: huge news to get the returning you know, big ten

1011
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 8: offensive lineman of the year back in the fold uh

1012
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 8: he he kind of said that after the game. So

1013
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,479
Speaker 8: I got a couple of other guys. I think Omar

1014
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,959
Speaker 8: Cooper is an interesting one. Does he go or stay?

1015
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 8: I think he's kind of you know, some projections have

1016
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 8: him like in the mid round, but you know, I

1017
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 8: think he's a guy that might be able to help

1018
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 8: his draft stock. But obviously gave some good tape in

1019
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 8: that title game for scouts watching. So those are the

1020
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 8: decisions I think you're looking for right now.

1021
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: Okay, the with this, Mike Nisilik is our guest Bloomington

1022
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: Herald Times talking about Indiana football, their national championship and

1023
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: everything that comes with that. Now the I'm curious of this, Mike,

1024
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: and maybe we won't know this for a couple of years,

1025
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: right but as you once you get to the top

1026
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 1: of the mountain, the reality is then people start wanting

1027
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 1: to pluck away your players, and you know, it becomes

1028
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: more of a challenge to maintain probably some form of

1029
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: consistency of roster. The Alberta Mendoza thing I think surprised

1030
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people, but at the same time it

1031
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: shouldn't because Kurtz Signetti has always said, you know, production

1032
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: over potential. And that's not to say that Mendoza has

1033
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: not been somebody who has produced for them, and his

1034
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: number has been called, but it's been late in game situations.

1035
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: We know that they go to TCU for the quarterback situation.

1036
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: There are we going to see this? Do you think

1037
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: routinely where Indiana is using experienced players from elsewhere for

1038
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: their roster or was that out of necessity to get

1039
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: to this point? And now it's about player development of

1040
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: those that get organically as young players.

1041
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 8: Well, quarterbacks are of unique just because obviously there also

1042
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 8: be one, and so like, I think their plan was

1043
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 8: to lat Mendoza compete for the job, but like if

1044
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 8: he wanted a straighter path to a starting job, going

1045
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 8: to Georgia Tech was was, you know, was sort of

1046
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 8: the move you had to make, right Like, you know,

1047
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 8: obviously Joshua is gonna come in, He's gonna be highly paid,

1048
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 8: and so the indication is like he'll have, you know,

1049
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 8: maybe an easier path. But I mean, I think if

1050
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 8: he outplayed him, there would have been a world in

1051
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 8: which he could have been the starter. I don't think

1052
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 8: he could rule those things out. You know, that happened

1053
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 8: him in high school kid transferred in and that was

1054
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 8: expected to start, and like he just got on the

1055
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 8: practice field and beat him, right, And so quarterbacks unique,

1056
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 8: like I think they had, you know, last year, they

1057
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 8: had teams trying to post their players, especially in the

1058
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 8: spring portal window, and like there were some scary moments

1059
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 8: from what KURTZIGETI talked about the Big Ten Media Day

1060
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 8: and talk to me. I had interview with him in

1061
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 8: May and he said, like it was dicey, like that

1062
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 8: was when he was actually worried. It wasn't in the winter,

1063
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 8: it was in the spring, those spring portal window. Now,

1064
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 8: I think that helps, but so like I mean, that's

1065
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 8: you know, he said what was at one point three million,

1066
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 8: I think was an offer that he said in the

1067
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 8: Big Ten media days, a guy got and you know

1068
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 8: they had to match it. And so those things are

1069
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 8: happening constantly, and they've done a good job with retention

1070
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 8: so far. Obviously the portal will be open for them

1071
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 8: now an extra couple of days through the twenty fourth,

1072
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 8: so you're always on guard. The quote he gave me

1073
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 8: last year, it was your intent is always up, and

1074
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 8: so I think that'll be the case here for the

1075
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 8: next four days. And then see what we got going forward.

1076
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 8: But I mean their transfer hall right now is fantastic already,

1077
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 8: So I mean you have to feel good about the

1078
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 8: players they got back. I mean, I think that they're

1079
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 8: going to retain, you know, a core group of this

1080
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 8: roster that has eligibility left and the pieces they're adding.

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00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: Mike, do we know and maybe it would be speculative,

1082
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, but do we have an estimate? Obviously

1083
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: it was worth it. I'm not papooing it at all.

1084
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: It's the reality of today, and I give credit to

1085
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,439
Speaker 1: Indiana for being kind of in front of it all.

1086
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: Do you have an idea of what their payroll, odd

1087
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,240
Speaker 1: to say, was for this year, the total amount?

1088
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.

1089
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 8: It's hard to put them down on numbers. A colleague,

1090
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 8: as Zach Austenman did a reporting on this kind of

1091
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 8: leading up to the championship game. We had always heard

1092
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 8: that the you know, revenue sharing was you know, like

1093
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 8: around twenty million per team or per per school for

1094
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 8: the athletics departments, and you know, large majority of schools,

1095
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 8: you know, the significant chunk of that was dedicated to football.

1096
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 8: So that's kind of like your starting point, like a

1097
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 8: large portion of your budget pbably upwards of fifty percent,

1098
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 8: you know, seventy percent, sixty five to seventy percent of

1099
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 8: that twenty million, I believe is where kind of Indiana

1100
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 8: came down on football. And then on top of it,

1101
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 8: you know, Zach had reported kind of you know, you

1102
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 8: think around twenty five million was it was last year.

1103
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 8: But also you got to remember the rules in which

1104
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 8: last year's roster were put together, especially the guys that

1105
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 8: were locked in the deals sort of in the winter,

1106
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 8: was different because they could be they were solely dedicated

1107
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 8: or more, and it could be structured differently because it

1108
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 8: wasn't part of the clearinghouse and nil deals, So it

1109
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 8: was different. So now you're going to probably get a

1110
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 8: cleaner look in terms of what the revenue sharing split

1111
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 8: and what teams that have spent over. So it's hard

1112
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 8: to say, and this year won't be the same. It's

1113
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 8: not one to one anymore because they interestuted the clearinghouse

1114
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 8: in the summer and sort of the roster the way

1115
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 8: the rosters were constructed were a little different.

1116
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: Do you think it's sustainable, Mike, And I don't mean,

1117
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, so long as you have boosters, I get it. Right,

1118
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: But I believe, and I keep saying this, that you're

1119
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: going to have kind of these little many dynasties and

1120
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 1: like a team's going to be dominant for you know,

1121
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: have their three to four years in the sun, then

1122
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 1: they go away for a couple of years, then they

1123
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: come back again because it's going to be cyclical. That

1124
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: works along with what kind of big booster donations you're getting.

1125
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: And unless you have a booster that's willing to write

1126
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: you a check for fifteen million a year, you're gonna

1127
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: have EBB and flow.

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Speaker 4: There?

1129
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 3: Am I off base?

1130
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 4: Well?

1131
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 8: I think there's two separate questions. Is the model sustainable?

1132
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 8: I don't think so in terms of like what they're

1133
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 8: doing and like all the different rules and eligibility and nil.

1134
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 1: Like it's all a mess.

1135
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 2: It's like a.

1136
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 8: Disaster, right, and so like there's I mean, like I

1137
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 8: mean that's that's part of the conversation, right, Like, I mean,

1138
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 8: things will probably have to change at some point. I

1139
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 8: do not know what direction things go in. Like there's

1140
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,919
Speaker 8: no I mean, they can't even agree on the playoff, right,

1141
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 8: Like there's no sort of stepping up and trying to

1142
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 8: these voices kind of to to better the sport. So

1143
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 8: like that part's I think is a big part of

1144
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 8: it because like that effects kind of what you're talking about,

1145
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 8: Like is it just schools that can muster up support

1146
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 8: for a certain amount of time, get like a benefit

1147
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 8: and get and like rise up and rise back down.

1148
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 8: But I will say one, Indiana is well positioned to

1149
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 8: sustain the success because you know, the money comes in

1150
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 8: from what they just did, will help them and sort

1151
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 8: of lessen maybe the burden on some of those donors

1152
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 8: or some of the you know, other obligations they have

1153
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 8: to do. And so like I think you also have

1154
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 8: to really good set up in the athletic department have

1155
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 8: to have and they've really prepared for this kind of

1156
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 8: even going back and went and spoke about this kind

1157
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 8: of the weekly going back to the game to sort

1158
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 8: of set up this success, going back to like twenty

1159
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 8: twenty one and coming up with the model in the

1160
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 8: athletic department, a financial model I'm talking about to sort

1161
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 8: of like how do we cover all these costs, revenue

1162
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 8: shares coming, what do we do? And Indiana position themselves

1163
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 8: well to do this because it's not just about donors.

1164
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 8: I mean, that's the big part of it. That's a

1165
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 8: big part of the NIA. But I mean you have

1166
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 8: to you know, like there are some athletics departments that

1167
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 8: are so in the red that like they can't take

1168
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 8: themselves out of it. It's not going to matter about donors,

1169
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 8: right And so I mean you see that like UCLA,

1170
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 8: the school that has a lot of financial troubles, so

1171
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 8: like they can't get to the point. Indiana's that right

1172
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 8: now because they have all other sorts of problems. So

1173
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 8: like Indiana has positioned themselves well to keep us going.

1174
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,959
Speaker 8: But to your point, like, what's the future hold? God

1175
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 8: knows with what this this model will look like in

1176
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 8: you know, three to five years, maybe things change, And

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00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 8: I don't know how that impacts you know, individual teams

1178
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 8: because I don't know what the rules will be at

1179
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 8: that point.

1180
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: The again, Mike Nislok is our guest Bloomington Herald Times.

1181
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: Here's one other question about that before we get onto

1182
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: something about next year for Indiana. And I don't know

1183
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: the answer to this, Mike. I'm legitimately asking, so I'm

1184
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: not rhetorically asking this, like and you know, like the

1185
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: guy yelling at clouds, what now are the academic requirements

1186
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: for a player, because for example, you know, is guys

1187
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: are now you know you heard Carson back. I mean

1188
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: a lot was made of that. I don't even know

1189
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,919
Speaker 1: if he was taking you know, Brenanda Mendoza graduated from

1190
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,439
Speaker 1: cal I assume he was taking like an online graduate course.

1191
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 3: I have no idea. Is there a minimum breaking.

1192
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 8: A couple of virtual course. I believe he was taking

1193
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 8: a couple of virtual courses, So there is there is

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01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 8: a requirement. I do not know the extent, and I

1195
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 8: don't know how it varies for school, you know, hours

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01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 8: wise or credits wise. But because you know, he did

1197
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 8: talk I mean, Fernando talked about that earlier this season

1198
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 8: that you know, he uh went to host Business School,

1199
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 8: obviously very prestigious school, and his he talked about his

1200
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 8: class requirements obviously were much heavier in previous years than

1201
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 8: they were this year. Not to bragger about it, but

1202
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 8: he just you know, was talking kind of about it

1203
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 8: was a question about what his schedule like or.

1204
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: What his routine was like.

1205
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 8: So there is that When players graduate, obviously their class

1206
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 8: loads less, but I mean they do have to, you know,

1207
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 8: I think it also changes like undergrad versus graduate students,

1208
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 8: and so like I do not know the exact credit hours,

1209
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 8: but I would say undergrads obviously have to take more,

1210
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 8: but once you've graduated, there is some leniency. And I mean,

1211
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,919
Speaker 8: you know, now you get we will kind of now

1212
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 8: are getting through a lot of the COVID year guys

1213
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 8: where it was like eight nine years, which was getting ridiculous,

1214
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 8: but now you're sort of still seeing, you know, the

1215
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 8: JUCO rules sort of up in the air, and you're

1216
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:23,479
Speaker 8: still getting five and six year players and so but yeah,

1217
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 8: they benefit from that, but they still do have to do.

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01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: Some Okay, let's talk about roster for next year, Mike,

1219
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: in terms of you know, who's there who's not. I

1220
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: want to begin with this. A guy that and somebody

1221
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: asked me to ask about this.

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01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 3: It's a really good question.

1223
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: Tyler Cherry was a pretty highly talented quarterback locally out

1224
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: of center Grove, went to Indiana, suffered injury, sat out

1225
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: this year.

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01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 3: I assume he is still part of the program.

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01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: Would he be somebody that then becomes Hoover's back up

1228
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: with the department with the departure now of Alberta Mendoza,

1229
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: Where do things stand there? Uncertain?

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Speaker 8: I mean, he was he was like a student coach,

1231
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 8: so they kept them in the fold. Well, the injury,

1232
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 8: I think it's all independent on his health. That'll be

1233
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 8: a question we kind of ask Kurtzidandi the next time.

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01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 8: I think we get you know, when you kind of

1235
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 8: go through all the roster kind of question marks before

1236
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 8: they kind of go off onto their break before the spring,

1237
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 8: that is an interesting question in terms of like, I

1238
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 8: think it's all about just if he's healthy enough to play,

1239
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 8: and so will he be factor in the next season.

1240
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 8: That'll be the sort of the question. I don't think

1241
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 8: even if he came back that they will make they

1242
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 8: will just just default and assume he'd be the backup quarterback.

1243
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 8: Too young, too inexperienced, injury questions. I still think they

1244
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 8: have to go find something.

1245
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: Okay, when you look at not only players who have

1246
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: no more eligibility, but also the possibility of transfer portal

1247
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,439
Speaker 1: or areas where they have not been able to get

1248
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: players in the portal What area of the Indiana football

1249
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: team for next season when they begin their defense of

1250
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: this title are going to be the big question marks?

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Speaker 8: You know, right now has answered a lot of the

1252
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 8: questions that they had, like you know, you know, and

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Speaker 8: I think right now, it's more sort of like filling

1254
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 8: in holes and depth, like like could they use a

1255
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Speaker 8: backup linebacker, you know, like, yeah, I think I think

1256
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 8: an extra veteran linebacker with the experience would help them.

1257
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 8: The backup quarterback I think opens up. Maybe that is

1258
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 8: your most pressing need because you know, you saw in

1259
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Speaker 8: twenty four how important that start Tevin Jackson made was

1260
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 8: to to sort of keep the playoff hopes on track

1261
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Speaker 8: against Washington. So like you need a backup quarterback. I

1262
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Speaker 8: mean they've addressed safety, you know, maybe another interior guy

1263
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 8: and at defensive tackle, But I think you have a

1264
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 8: really good starting base there. Like you know, they're coming

1265
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Speaker 8: from a point it's strengthen a lot of these positions.

1266
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Speaker 8: Like if you lose Pawns, they got a two year

1267
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Speaker 8: starter out of the transfer portal, you're probably bringing back

1268
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 8: to Maury Sharp, the guy who just got the interception

1269
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Speaker 8: to win the national title. Like, they're really in a

1270
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 8: good spot in a lot of these places, you know,

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Speaker 8: especially with car Smith coming back, like you thought, you know,

1272
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Speaker 8: now they have probably four starting linemen coming back basically essentially,

1273
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 8: and then they added a starter, and now you just

1274
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 8: kind of got to move a guy to center basically,

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Speaker 8: So I mean like there's just not a lot of holes.

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Speaker 8: And that's what I'm saying, Like they are basically weigh

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Speaker 8: that first portal weekend and been like, look, get on

1278
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 8: the bus now because we're shutting things down in forty

1279
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 8: eight hours because we're going to go back to coaching

1280
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Speaker 8: and getting this team ready to play. And most of

1281
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Speaker 8: the guys did, and those are their first choices in

1282
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 8: a lot of the positions, and I think that's that

1283
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 8: set the tone for what this roster looks like next year.

1284
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Speaker 8: And I think you have to feel really positive about.

1285
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Speaker 3: It, Mike.

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Speaker 1: I want you to enjoy on Saturday from one until

1287
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: one point thirty while you're covering the celebration, the fact

1288
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 1: that it's going to be three degrees in freezing rain.

1289
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Speaker 1: But you know what, Indiana fans will not care. I'll

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01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: tell you what they will not care. And I've always

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Speaker 1: said Bloomington and the state of Indiana and sanjol Indiana

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Speaker 1: and Indianapolis are heaven to me, but they must also

1293
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: be hell because hell's frozen over because Indiana won the

1294
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 1: national title.

1295
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 8: Right, maybe they'll be a spot up into the trust box.

1296
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 8: I can stay warming.

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Speaker 1: There you go, Mike. I appreciate it as always. Man,

1298
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 1: it's been a busy run for you. I realized, but

1299
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: you've answered the call each time and I always appreciate

1300
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: it anytime. Mike Naaaly joining us on the Java House

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01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: Peeling Port guest line, Eddie. You know, it's very very

1302
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 1: similar to when the Colts won the Super Bowl that was.

1303
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: You know, if you were to go back, you can

1304
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 1: go on there's like a website where you can go

1305
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: and look up whether records from the you know, like

1306
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: what the temperature was on certain days. And I kid

1307
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 1: you not, in my mind, when the Colts won the

1308
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and I don't mean the night that they

1309
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: won it, but the next day when they arrived back

1310
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis and they had like a makeshift parade, I

1311
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 1: think that they weren't planning on doing a Super Bowl

1312
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 1: parade and they didn't really put much thought into it,

1313
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: and people literally were like, they have to do a parade, right,

1314
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: And they planned on a celebration at the RCAA Dome,

1315
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 1: but they didn't really plan a parade route. And literally

1316
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: as the team landed, someone said, well, we have to

1317
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 1: have some sort of a parade, So they went and

1318
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 1: got a bunch of the floats for the five hundred festival.

1319
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 1: When I say to floats, I just mean the platforms,

1320
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: and they had like probably four of those worth of

1321
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: you know, different players on it. And I actually do

1322
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: not remember Peyton Manning being involved in it, but I

1323
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: remember Bob Sanders being in the back of it and

1324
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: looking like a rock star. But Bill Pollian held out

1325
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: of the Lombardi Trophy on the front float and never

1326
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: let go, like it looked like it was frozen into

1327
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 1: his hands, and he had a grin on his face,

1328
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 1: but it was like frozen. It was the coldest. It

1329
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 1: was so cold, and I was right on Monument Circle.

1330
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 1: Norman Cox from Channel six was screaming to every everybody

1331
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 1: that it was canceled because it was too cold. He

1332
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: had on a Cleveland Brown's hat while he was doing

1333
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: his broadcast from the Circle and then all of that,

1334
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: and he wasn't wrong because people were like, wait, I

1335
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: don't know that.

1336
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 3: We're really doing this.

1337
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, here come the like

1338
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: float things driving down from They went up Capital around

1339
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 1: the Circle back down and then over to the RCA

1340
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 1: Dome and that was it. But it was so cold

1341
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 1: in my mind it was like ten below out. Actually,

1342
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 1: if I had to guess, I would say it was

1343
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 1: seven degrees. Now we could look up. Let's let's look

1344
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 1: at it this way.

1345
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 4: Eddie.

1346
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: Ready, what day was that? That's what I'm looking up here?

1347
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: So what can you look up? We're going to go

1348
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: over under. If my mind tells me it was seven degrees,

1349
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 1: then I'm going to give myself a ten degree buffer

1350
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: of saying no, it was warmer than that. You just

1351
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: were standing in it, so you felt cold and it

1352
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: was in your mind. Whatever. So I will say that

1353
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: the official record says it was seventeen degrees.

1354
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 2: I think you should go with five. I think we

1355
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 2: need to minimize that gap a little bit.

1356
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: Okay, So what is the over under you're giving me

1357
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 1: in terms of the window of the margin of error,

1358
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 1: Like if this was one of those.

1359
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 2: So technically I am giving you ten degrees, but I'm

1360
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 2: giving you five either way. So if you said it

1361
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 2: was seven, I'll give you an answer from two to twelve.

1362
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 2: Anything within two to twelve will give you a winner.

1363
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 1: Okay. Now they it was like total makeshift. It was

1364
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: just like thrown together. Okay, Now I need you to

1365
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: look up for me.

1366
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 4: Please.

1367
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: The do you have before you a website that tells

1368
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: you temperatures in archive?

1369
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 2: I know I was it was the Monday, right. The

1370
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 2: fifth is that when they did it? No, what day

1371
01:08:58,000 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 2: of the week was it?

1372
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 1: Then I am kicking right here. Okay, it says here

1373
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 1: there will be a parade. Indianapolis will welcome the Super

1374
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,719
Speaker 1: Bowl champion Colts home with a parade on Monday.

1375
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 3: There you go.

1376
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: The team arrived at four o'clock PM and went to

1377
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,600
Speaker 1: the Colts camp on the city's west side. So the

1378
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: parade is not expected to start until five thirty pm. So, yes,

1379
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 1: it was Monday, but two thousand and seven, so this

1380
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 1: would have been we'll look it up. On the other side,

1381
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,600
Speaker 1: you're giving me what is the window that you were

1382
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:32,839
Speaker 1: saying that I would be accurate?

1383
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 4: Eddie?

1384
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 3: Give me again what numbers you're giving me credit for you?

1385
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 2: So if you said that it was seven degrees, I

1386
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 2: would give you anywhere.

1387
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: From my final answer. My final answer is twelve degrees.

1388
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 1: My final answer is twelve degrees. That's my guess. We'll

1389
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 1: look it up and see how closed.

1390
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 4: Sam.

1391
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 1: Next, So here's the thing about the Super Bowl parade

1392
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: Paul the Mailman points out, I'd forgotten about this. The

1393
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 1: parade was a little bit screwed up because the Pro

1394
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: Bowl Manning and others had to go to Hawaii on Tuesday.

1395
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 1: I forgot about that, so there was and then in

1396
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 1: addition to that, their flight was delayed coming back. I

1397
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 1: do remember that they were scheduled to land at four,

1398
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: then that got pushed to five thirty.

1399
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 4: This, Paul, tell you it's Paul. I'm the director of giddiness.

1400
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,480
Speaker 6: You're feeling giddy on quarious companies.

1401
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 1: To Paul the Mailman. That's one. The other one is

1402
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: the one that sent me that message.

1403
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't know which Paul was.

1404
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 1: Paul Hurley is former, retired former excuse me, now retired mailman.

1405
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 1: So he's mailman emeritus. We should make that distinction, right,

1406
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 1: I'm looking right here, Eddie. I think I officially locked

1407
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 1: in at twelve degrees, but my initial guess was seven.

1408
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 2: Correct, I believe so.

1409
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 1: Yes. On February fifth of two thousand and seven, at

1410
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 1: four point fifty four PM, it was ten degrees, but

1411
01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 1: again delayed until five thirty. Right at five fifty four

1412
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 1: it was eight degrees, and by six fifty four. It

1413
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: was six degrees, so right in there seven degrees. I

1414
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 1: must have read somewhere seven. And that was stuck in

1415
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: the depths of my brain. I'm not giving myself that

1416
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,480
Speaker 1: much credit, but it was ridiculous.

1417
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a high of ten and a low

1418
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 2: of minus five in two thousand and seven.

1419
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, the low was probably it.

1420
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 1: Like you know then two thousand and eight, pretty historic day.

1421
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 1: It was sixty five degrees, are you serious?

1422
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 2: Highest sixty five a low of forty one in two

1423
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 2: thousand and eight.

1424
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 1: Well, think about when the super Bowl was here. I

1425
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 1: mean I remember when the super Bowl was here. It

1426
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: was the most surreal thing ever. I mean, doing a

1427
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 1: zip line it was. It had to have been fifty

1428
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 1: five degrees outside. Oh yeah, I remember it was awesome.

1429
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 3: That was Now.

1430
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: I don't know why this is the case. It shouldn't be.

1431
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 1: What we do is not hard work. It is not

1432
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 1: manual labor. We're not saving lives, none of that. That

1433
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:13,560
Speaker 1: super Bowl in twenty twelve, and if you remember the

1434
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 1: super Bowl when it was here, that was the off

1435
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 1: season of uncertainty because it was coming off of the

1436
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 1: Colts disastrous season, the Peyton Manning neck injury, Curtis Painter

1437
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 1: or Lavsky you know, winless suck for Luck and that

1438
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 1: off season and for the Colts the off season had

1439
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 1: begun well before that, but that time period. I remember

1440
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 1: being on radio row for the Super Bowl, and you

1441
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 1: know those things. You sit there and it's just a

1442
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 1: cattle call. They just bring over all these former players. Hey,

1443
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 1: do you want to talk to Joe Montana? Just make

1444
01:12:55,840 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: sure you mentioned hippie's nasal strips? Okay, and then you know,

1445
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 1: and then the next one comes through.

1446
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 2: Also, what's the other thing that Brett Farve used to

1447
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 2: do or still does?

1448
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:06,440
Speaker 3: Copper fit? That's embezzlement.

1449
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 1: No, that's not something that they wanted necessarily for you

1450
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 1: to talk about.

1451
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 2: Copper fit was what that was. It was like that

1452
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 2: sleeve thing, a compression sleeve type.

1453
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean everybody's pitching something like that, right, I

1454
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 1: mean I don't remember his specifically, but yes, something like that.

1455
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 2: By the way, do you have a cattle call? What

1456
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 2: does a cattle call sound like?

1457
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 6: Me?

1458
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 3: Maybe that's a cattle call.

1459
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 2: Joe Montana also sketchers, right, is that?

1460
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1461
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 3: That's right? Sketchers yep.

1462
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 1: And some of the players you feel bad because you're like, oh, man,

1463
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: I forgot about that guy. He was the number three

1464
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 1: tied end on the team in eighty three, But what

1465
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 1: reason when I have to talk to him? But you're

1466
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 1: sitting there and the whole conversation, but the whole week

1467
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,600
Speaker 1: was about what the Colts were going to do. And

1468
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,839
Speaker 1: that's when the Colts put out that photo of Peyton

1469
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 1: Manning at a like a party with Jim Mersey and

1470
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 1: John Mellencamp and it was like Peyton Manning attended a

1471
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 1: party with owner Jim Mersey and a good time.

1472
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 3: Was had by all.

1473
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 1: John everybody was there and Johnny Coueger, Yeah, you know,

1474
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: every Literally the entire topic with everyone was what is

1475
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 1: going to happen with Manning and the Colts and are

1476
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: they going to keep him?

1477
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 3: What are they going to be able to do? And

1478
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 3: this is.

1479
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 1: This is like the weirdest thing to say because it's

1480
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 1: not brain surgery that we do and it's not manual labor.

1481
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 1: But that was the most professionally tiring week of my life.

1482
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 1: I loved it. I was It was an honor to

1483
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 1: be a part of it. It was surreal, but it

1484
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 1: was mentally exhausting because it just was non.

1485
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 2: Stop, even more than a month of May.

1486
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: Yes, Wow, it was the most tired I've ever been.

1487
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 1: And that's I have no idea what maybe because the

1488
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: month of May you're going on adrenaline. I you know,

1489
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, and it's it's just different. Now, where

1490
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 1: were you for this? The JW So okay, I was

1491
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 1: about to say you weren't. That was the media hotel. Yeah,

1492
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 1: But speaking of Mellencamp, not only was he there for

1493
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 1: that and a good time was had by all, but

1494
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 1: a good times had by all anytime he's in concert.

1495
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,640
Speaker 1: Do you know a Jay Querry fun fact? This is

1496
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 1: literally revoked my Indiana card, revoke my Indiana status.

1497
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 2: You've never seen Mellencamp in concert.

1498
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 1: That is correct, I've never seen Mellencamp in concert, which

1499
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:25,600
Speaker 1: is like fairly surprising.

1500
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 2: Is this where I would drop my headphones and walk

1501
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 2: out like you did when I told you I hadn't

1502
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 2: seen uh shot redemption?

1503
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 1: Pretty much? I mean for someone of my age range,

1504
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 1: that's almost an excuse. You you can come over here

1505
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: and produce your own show.

1506
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 6: Now.

1507
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 1: Then he literally, I mean he performed concerts in my

1508
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 1: college years, you know, in Bloomington and around the area.

1509
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 1: Seemingly all the time, and it just was one of

1510
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,600
Speaker 1: those kind of like hoody kind of like hoody like.

1511
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 1: It's not that I didn't want to see him, just

1512
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 1: every time I was supposed to see him, something popped up.

1513
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 1: But we have tickets to give away from mellen Camp?

1514
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: Is that correct, Eddie?

1515
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 2: Yes, we do.

1516
01:15:57,680 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 3: Is he going to be win?

1517
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 2: And where any at Ruoff Music Center this summer? The

1518
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:07,520
Speaker 2: specific date you ask, Saturday July eighteenth.

1519
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: Okay, I actually have the world's greatest trivia question.

1520
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 2: Now don't call now. We haven't played John Mellencamp yet.

1521
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 1: I've been I have the world's greatest trivia question that

1522
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 1: I've been keeping locked and loaded for very special occasions.

1523
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 1: Should we use that trivia question for these tickets? Or

1524
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 1: what former fashion would you like to Eddie Garrison? I

1525
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 1: will allow you to decide how we distribute.

1526
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 2: On a scale of one to ten. How challenging you

1527
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 2: said trivia question?

1528
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 1: It's not, I mean seven, but it's but what is

1529
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 1: fascinating to me.

1530
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 3: Everyone?

1531
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 1: Seemingly I could write down for you the most common

1532
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 1: answers that will be submitted. One of them would be

1533
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 1: the right one, but the order in which they are

1534
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 1: oftentimes recited.

1535
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 2: Now, we have two pairs to give away today. Okay,

1536
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 2: so do you want to hold off until Friday when

1537
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 2: we have one and it's our last pair? But GMV

1538
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,639
Speaker 2: also is giving away Mellencamp tickets this week?

1539
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 1: Two you mean in terms of to give them away

1540
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 1: or in terms of the trivia question?

1541
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:16,480
Speaker 9: Uh?

1542
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 2: Do we want to hold off on the trivia question

1543
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 2: for Friday? When we just have the one pair versus

1544
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:21,680
Speaker 2: two pair today and tomorrow?

1545
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 1: There's a chance I'm gonna take Friday off?

1546
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 3: What that's the only thing?

1547
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 2: What hap Wednesday? What? What the heck?

1548
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 1: They have this weird thing here where if you work

1549
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:33,639
Speaker 1: on a holiday you have to then burn it within

1550
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 1: like five days. And I worked out on holiday.

1551
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 2: I don't I worked on a holiday too, But you

1552
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,679
Speaker 2: burnt yesterday. That's a different reasoning you though.

1553
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, So which way would you like to do it?

1554
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 3: I will let you decide.

1555
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 2: Let's save trivia for tomorrow, then if you're gonna take

1556
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 2: off Friday.

1557
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 1: Okay, So when you hear Mellencamp playing, that means you

1558
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 1: got to call in.

1559
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 3: Is that how we're doing this?

1560
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1561
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:58,639
Speaker 1: All right, we'll do it that way. And by the way,

1562
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 1: speaking of mini outa football. Pretty cool thing that you

1563
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 1: can have sitting right on your desk to commemorate Indiana's

1564
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 1: national championship. We'll talk about that in ten. You know,

1565
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 1: over the years in doing this, we just.

1566
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 2: Had a major tase Jake. I don't know if you

1567
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 2: caught that last commercial in.

1568
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 3: The break I did.

1569
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 2: It was promoted in the fact we have John Mellencamp

1570
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 2: tickets to play. I thought about this and there was

1571
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,719
Speaker 2: Mellencamp playing there on the end. And now the phone

1572
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 2: lines are well lit.

1573
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we.

1574
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 1: Should probably be people of our word, right, we should

1575
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:31,560
Speaker 1: probably be people of our word.

1576
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 2: We probably should. But we've got a we got a

1577
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:35,679
Speaker 2: guest coming up here.

1578
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:36,719
Speaker 3: It's your rules.

1579
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you said when you hear Mellencamp, I know,

1580
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 1: I know, maybe in a big noginy years you should

1581
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: have thought these things out.

1582
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I probably should have looked forward paid attention.

1583
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:47,759
Speaker 3: Just saying.

1584
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 1: But over the years that I've done radio, there have

1585
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,680
Speaker 1: been a number of occasions. The two that come to

1586
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 1: mind would be the Colts and then as well Notre Dame.

1587
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,640
Speaker 1: Those two jump out where.

1588
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 3: And this is pretty cool.

1589
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 1: The you know, you always see the commemberative footballs, right,

1590
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: a football that has like a white leather panel on

1591
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 1: it and then will have the image of a team

1592
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 1: or a player or something like that, or like autograph footballs.

1593
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 1: During the Super Bowl that I was talking about in

1594
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 1: twenty twelve, I did a fundraiser where I had two

1595
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 1: footballs that were signed by basically every person that came

1596
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 1: by the radio row signed it. There's like I mean,

1597
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: I had and I gave them to two different charities,

1598
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: but I remember they had like seven Hall of Famers

1599
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 1: on them.

1600
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 3: But there are also.

1601
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: Commemorative footballs that can be done after a significant win.

1602
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:45,600
Speaker 1: You know, you see people that'll have it on there,

1603
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 1: usually on your desk or in a workplace in your office.

1604
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 1: Is kind of cool to have something like that, especially

1605
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 1: if you went to the game. And Nico Sports is

1606
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 1: the company that puts together. Bob Iback has been a

1607
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 1: friend for years, and Bobby used to work for the

1608
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 1: Chicago Cubs in their PR department and he's worked with

1609
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 1: Niko for years where they put together.

1610
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 3: Fundraisers.

1611
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 1: And that's kind of the cool thing about it is

1612
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 1: when you're talking about a football that commemorates a feat

1613
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: or an accomplishment, to be able to say yeah, but

1614
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 1: you know, it's one thing to just make money off something.

1615
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 1: It's another to say, we're making money off this for

1616
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 1: something that a team in your area did, and we're

1617
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 1: making sure that we're giving some of that money back

1618
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 1: into your community. That's what's pretty cool about it. And

1619
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 1: Bob reached out. I've talked to him on a number

1620
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 1: of occasions over the course of the years, and usually

1621
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: if I'm talking to him, it means that something great

1622
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 1: has happened within sports in the market, which is why

1623
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 1: it's always a pleasure to talk to him.

1624
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 3: Bob Iybak joins us now in the Java.

1625
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 1: House Peel and poor guest line from Nico Sports, Bob,

1626
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 1: how are you.

1627
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,679
Speaker 9: I'm doing good, Jake's been a while since we chatted,

1628
01:20:55,720 --> 01:21:00,120
Speaker 9: but I've always enjoyed our past conversations, and you're right,

1629
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 9: you know, we usually when we talk, we're doing something

1630
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 9: it's also good for the community, and I know in

1631
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 9: this case, with the Indiana winning the national championship, we're

1632
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 9: working with the Extra Yard for Teachers, which is the

1633
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 9: official charity of the college football Playoffs. And what I'll

1634
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:23,839
Speaker 9: be talking about this special limited edition full size football

1635
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 9: a portion of the proceeds will go back and help

1636
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:31,639
Speaker 9: out school teachers in the India State of Indiana, which

1637
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 9: is very important to me because I know and I

1638
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 9: think you could probably voice the same opinion. We all

1639
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 9: grew up with school teachers, whether they be grade school

1640
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 9: teachers or high school teachers, or college professors or whatever,

1641
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 9: and they've helped us along in various stages of our life.

1642
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 9: They've been our mentors. And it's good to be able

1643
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 9: to give back to that organization which has been the

1644
01:21:56,080 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 9: official sponsor of the college football playoffs and race hundreds

1645
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 9: of thousands of dollars for school teachers, and the money

1646
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 9: will stay in the state of Indiana. So with that,

1647
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 9: I want to talk a little bit quickly about this

1648
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:13,680
Speaker 9: fully licensed football. It's full size. It comes with a

1649
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 9: numbered certificate of authenticity. Only five thousands of these will

1650
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 9: ever be made, and it's all the logos and the

1651
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 9: information on the various panels of the football are in bust.

1652
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 9: It's a way of keeping this looking preserved, brand new

1653
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:33,600
Speaker 9: for years and years to come. I know, of my

1654
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 9: own man cave, some of the footballs and basketballs that

1655
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 9: I've collected over the years in my sports career have

1656
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 9: stayed pristine looking for years to come. So there will

1657
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 9: only be five thousands of these. And before I give

1658
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 9: out the phone number and website how you can get these,

1659
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 9: because we've been on your station earlier this morning, got

1660
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 9: a great response from people who ordered and these things

1661
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,839
Speaker 9: or probably one third of the way already sold out.

1662
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 9: So I would urge people to do this sooner than later,

1663
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 9: because it's a very historic football going sixteen to oh

1664
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 9: winning the school's first national championship in football ever is

1665
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 9: an amazing feat. And the way they knocked off some

1666
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 9: of the opponents along the way, Alabama and Oregon and

1667
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 9: so forth, and that twenty seven to twenty one win

1668
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 9: against Miami has just been huge. It's got the whole

1669
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 9: country talking about this. It reminds me of the Basketball movie,

1670
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 9: and I think they will make a movie out of

1671
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:39,640
Speaker 9: this with the way Mendoza and company have you aspired

1672
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 9: to go on and to create their own image. On

1673
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:47,520
Speaker 9: the top panel of the football, we'll have the undefeated

1674
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 9: season sixteen and oh, all the schedule of the opponents

1675
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 9: and scores, so you'll be able to remember exactly what

1676
01:23:55,680 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 9: the season howd unfolded. It's got a beautiful Indiana helmet.

1677
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:03,600
Speaker 9: There on one of the panels, we've got the beautiful

1678
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 9: National Championship logo, and we've got the Roseball and Peach

1679
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 9: logos included on the football, you'll also get on a

1680
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 9: panel Indiana Football Fax, some trivia Indiana football history. And

1681
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 9: then we also have another panel on there that features

1682
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 9: the Big Ten championship logo and the scorer and the opponent.

1683
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 9: All that on there, and it's exclusive to NICCO Sports.

1684
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 9: You will not find this at any other place other

1685
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 9: than doing it this way because we want to make

1686
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 9: sure that we continue to give back to the Extra

1687
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 9: Yard for teachers. It's a group that I've worked with

1688
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:46,480
Speaker 9: going back since the inception of the college football playoffs,

1689
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 9: and we've raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for them. Now,

1690
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:52,680
Speaker 9: the two ways you can get this there again, there

1691
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 9: are one hundred and twenty nine dollars and ninety five cents.

1692
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 9: Everything is fully licensed. You'll get that number certificate of

1693
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 9: authent city. The toll free number to order is eight

1694
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 9: hundred three four five two eight sixty eight. That's eight

1695
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 9: hundred three four five twenty eight sixty eight. If you

1696
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 9: can't get through the phone lines, don't panic. You could

1697
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,639
Speaker 9: go right to the website. You can order it there

1698
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:26,679
Speaker 9: very quickly. Nicosports dot com. It's spelled nik coosports dot com. Again,

1699
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 9: that's nik cosports dot com. And that phone number one

1700
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 9: more time. Eight hundred three four five twenty eight sixty eight,

1701
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 9: one hundred and twenty nine dollars and ninety five cents

1702
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 9: will snag you one of these exclusive footballs. And I

1703
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 9: guarantee you you will have people walk into your home

1704
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 9: or office or wherever you display it and go, wow,

1705
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 9: where did you get that football? And know that these

1706
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 9: will appreciate over time because anytime a university wins something

1707
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 9: for the first time, goes undefeated like they have in

1708
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 9: sixteen and zero, it becomes a really historic piece of

1709
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 9: sports memorabilia.

1710
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 1: And the cool thing about it, as you mentioned, is

1711
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 1: the fact that because you do see this, Bob is

1712
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 1: you know somebody who buys something like that, and then

1713
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, after like three years it fades or the

1714
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 1: color face because it's in boss, that's not going to

1715
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 1: be the case, which is a cool thing, right and no,

1716
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 1: you're so right.

1717
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 9: I have stuff for my sports career going way back

1718
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 9: to the middle of nineteen nineties, and they look as

1719
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:27,640
Speaker 9: fresh as the day I received them. And then I

1720
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:29,839
Speaker 9: compare them to some of the things from my career

1721
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 9: when I was in the front office with the Chicago

1722
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 9: Cubs in the nineteen eighties, and that has faded. I

1723
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 9: have a baseball sign when I went to dinner. I

1724
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 9: was lucky enough Howard COSELM. Seed that we were out

1725
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 9: in Scottsdale, Arizona, and we were doing a fundraiser. Billy Martin,

1726
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 9: the Oakland A's manager at the time, put it together

1727
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 9: and that night all these old Yankees showed up, including

1728
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 9: the guys at my table. I had Mickey Maddele to

1729
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 9: my right and Roger Merris to the left, and they

1730
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 9: both signed the baseball thanks for having dinner with us,

1731
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:11,719
Speaker 9: Roger Morris and Mickey Mantle and Maris's autograph has started

1732
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 9: to fade, and that's because it was probably sitting in

1733
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:18,680
Speaker 9: the sunlight someplace at my previous home. So I can appreciate,

1734
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 9: you know, having stuff on here like this and bossed.

1735
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:23,680
Speaker 4: It will keep it looking beautiful.

1736
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 1: Did you were you at table number sixty one? I

1737
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 1: guess you would have had it been right.

1738
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:30,680
Speaker 9: You know, Jack Brickhouse with the.

1739
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 4: Radio guy back in.

1740
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 9: Those days, Hey, hey, yep, And he knew I grew

1741
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 9: up in the Bronx and knew I was a Yankees

1742
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 9: fan in the nineteen fifties. So I had my job

1743
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 9: was to get our table with the Cubs ten people.

1744
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 9: I think it was like one hundred dollars a ticket.

1745
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 9: All the money was going to a fundraiser for Ken Boyer,

1746
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 9: who was dying of cancer. And so I filled the

1747
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:57,600
Speaker 9: whole table up with Ernie Banks and Billy Williams and

1748
01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 9: Ron Santo. And I walked in and he said to me,

1749
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 9: He says, God, Bob, you know you're gonna have to

1750
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 9: go back to that table back there where nobody was sitting.

1751
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 9: He says, we don't have a seat for you. So

1752
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 9: I went back and I sat there, and within five.

1753
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 3: Minutes Marrison Manel sitting down.

1754
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,839
Speaker 9: Marason Mantle came in. But it started out with Whitey

1755
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 9: Ford and Yogi Barron and Bill Scouring and all my

1756
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:21,680
Speaker 9: old Yankee guys from the from the fifties. Nobody was

1757
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 9: sitting on my left or right until this guy came

1758
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 9: up wearing blue jeans and a blue jeans shirt and

1759
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 9: tapped me on the shoulders. Hey, Padna, anybody's sitting here

1760
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 9: and turned around. It was Mickey Mantle and a minute

1761
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:36,720
Speaker 9: later Roger Merris tapped me on the other shoulder. He says,

1762
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 9: you mind if I grab the last seat.

1763
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 4: Well.

1764
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 9: I was speechless, and Brookhouse told me the next day

1765
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 9: he said, I looked over at you, and you look

1766
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 9: like a little boy again who got his hand caught

1767
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 9: in the cookie jar.

1768
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 3: Pretty cool though, Pretty.

1769
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 9: Cool, Yeah, it was. It was a moment I never

1770
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:55,639
Speaker 9: ever forgot. And I was very blessed to have been

1771
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 9: with the Cubs for ten years. And my son's kind

1772
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 9: of taken over the thing. He's a assistant general manager

1773
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 9: with the Tampa Bay Rays now. So he always tells me, Dad,

1774
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 9: I can't tell you any inside stories because you know

1775
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,640
Speaker 9: you're going on radio show still, and he says, I

1776
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:13,719
Speaker 9: don't want you to spill any beings that you shouldn't,

1777
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 9: So we have that little thing between us. Don't tell

1778
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 9: me anything you don't want.

1779
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 3: Me to know, all right, fair enough.

1780
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 1: But what we do want people to know, though, Bob

1781
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 1: is again Nico Sports. That's nikcosports dot Com telephone number

1782
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:30,559
Speaker 1: eight hundred three four five twenty eight sixty eight. All

1783
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:32,600
Speaker 1: of you listening. Most of you by now I have

1784
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:34,560
Speaker 1: my cell phone numbers, so if you didn't get a

1785
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 1: chance to jot that down, send me a text. I

1786
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 1: will get you the information on how you can get

1787
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 1: one of the limited edition footballs and help out as

1788
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 1: well Extra yard for teachers, which has benefited eighty one

1789
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 1: thousand schools over the years, and now we'll be doing

1790
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 1: so for schools here in Indiana. Bob a pleasure as always,

1791
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,639
Speaker 1: and certainly appreciate you putting it together for IU fans.

1792
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 9: Jake. It's good to hear from you again, and I'll

1793
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 9: tell you always good to see stories like this on FALLD.

1794
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 9: It'll be something people will be talking about for years.

1795
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 1: It is definitely, Bob appreciate it. Definitely some people have

1796
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 1: been talking about for a long time. Of course, the

1797
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:10,680
Speaker 1: question becomes, does Indiana what can they do to replicate it?

1798
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 1: What can they do to advance the story to use

1799
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 1: that term?

1800
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 3: All right?

1801
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 1: NFL has some coaching vacancies and one of them actually

1802
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 1: got somebody chirping yesterday that had some quotes I found

1803
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:24,719
Speaker 1: pretty interesting.

1804
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 3: We'll get into that.

1805
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 1: We will discuss that and pacers as well upcoming here

1806
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:34,680
Speaker 1: on this humpday Wednesday Quarrying Company. Sorry you'd ask me

1807
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 1: to have that ready right. In terms of the music,

1808
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 1: I should have qued that up a little better. But

1809
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:43,599
Speaker 1: it is Boston, that is because the Pacers are in

1810
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:47,679
Speaker 1: Boston taking on the Celtics tonight seven o'clock tip pregame

1811
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:49,679
Speaker 1: at six point thirty.

1812
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 3: We will get.

1813
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:54,559
Speaker 1: Into some of the coaching vacancies and the National Football League.

1814
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 1: Whoever would have guessed that Boston would again be a

1815
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:02,479
Speaker 1: team that is vying for a Super Bowl because we

1816
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:05,680
Speaker 1: just kind of hope that the Patriots would stay in obscurity.

1817
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 1: Not the case Celtics, of course, one that have last

1818
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 1: time here, Pacers played well against him. But Indiana right

1819
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 1: now is basically everyone's wearing a name tag because they

1820
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 1: continue to just jostle around with their roster lineup and

1821
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 1: players in, players out. Dustin no Pirak joins us from

1822
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:28,439
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Star. He of course, is the beat writer

1823
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 1: that covers the Indiana Pacers and is in Beantown to

1824
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 1: discuss everything going on with Indiana. You know, again, I

1825
01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 1: know that I am a broken record when I say this,

1826
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 1: but it's difficult for me sometimes to be able to

1827
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:49,599
Speaker 1: determine with the pacers even Okay, you know who's out

1828
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 1: because they are legitimately out. Who's out because they're just

1829
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:56,439
Speaker 1: kind of the pacers are, you know, seeing what they

1830
01:31:56,479 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 1: have elsewhere. And then you also get as Dustin joins us. Now, Dustin,

1831
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 1: it seems to me like we saw last game, and

1832
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 1: I think Nie Smith and Nim Harder the two that

1833
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 1: come to mind here. Tell me if I'm wrong, but

1834
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 1: I don't recall in the past really them going to

1835
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 1: the we're going to use rest days on back to backs,

1836
01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 1: but it seems as though that's now being incorporated by

1837
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 1: Rick Carlisle. Correct.

1838
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if they're going to

1839
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 6: do that again. I mean, I imagine it also had

1840
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 6: something to do with it being the first game of

1841
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 6: a five game road trip maybe. I mean, I guess

1842
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 6: we'll see. We'll see when this becomes the thing. I mean, obviously,

1843
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 6: if you start seeing a lot of these, then you

1844
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 6: know the tank is really really on and so yeah,

1845
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 6: I mean it's you don't see it much. I mean,

1846
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 6: I think Pascal had the previous back to back, they're

1847
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 6: a previous back to back. He sat out that that

1848
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 6: Golden State game when they had ten guys out and

1849
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 6: they shored eighty three points in this game in that game. So,

1850
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:51,600
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know if this is going to

1851
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:53,200
Speaker 6: be a trend that they're going to do this for

1852
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 6: every back to back. It's probably different than it's home road.

1853
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:58,559
Speaker 6: It's probably different than it's a five game road trip.

1854
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 6: But it's obviously, you know, something that wouldn't happen if

1855
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 6: they were competitive, you know, I mean they would they

1856
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:05,640
Speaker 6: would not be doing that if they were you know,

1857
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 6: twenty you know, twenty two and twenty one or whatever.

1858
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 6: You know, it's something that happened because they were you know,

1859
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 6: ten and thirty one I think going into that game

1860
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 6: or ten, yeah, I think it was ten now it

1861
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:18,560
Speaker 6: was ten and thirty two. So yeah, like there's that

1862
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:20,920
Speaker 6: is changing the calculus. I don't know if it's going

1863
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 6: to be like that every time they have a back

1864
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 6: to back. I'm not sure. I think their next back

1865
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:26,680
Speaker 6: to back might be after I don't know, it's I

1866
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 6: think it's before the break. I gotta look at this

1867
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:31,559
Speaker 6: real quick. I have to check it out. No, I mean,

1868
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't know if it's going to

1869
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:34,760
Speaker 6: be an every time thing. You would hope it's not

1870
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 6: just for the sake of I don't think anybody wants

1871
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 6: to watch anything like that again. But usually if you're

1872
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:41,240
Speaker 6: more competitive and you do think you've got to give

1873
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 6: some guys rest days, you know you're not doing them

1874
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 6: all at once. You're saying, Okay, you get one this time,

1875
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:47,599
Speaker 6: somebody else gets one next time. But that was definitely

1876
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:49,880
Speaker 6: a case of Okay, we can we can do this

1877
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 6: because we're not in a competitive situation right now, and

1878
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:53,519
Speaker 6: it's not the worst thing on earth for them to

1879
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 6: lose games.

1880
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 3: Back to back.

1881
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 1: By the way, February second and third, Houston and Utah

1882
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 1: here in Indy. I want to begin with this in

1883
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:04,400
Speaker 1: terms of players, and some of this is stuff that

1884
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:07,719
Speaker 1: we have discussed a lot others.

1885
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:09,599
Speaker 3: You know, these things haven't ebb and flowed.

1886
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 1: Doest. Let's begin with this. Jay Huff to me at

1887
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:15,680
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. Let me give you the

1888
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:19,479
Speaker 1: evolution of the Jake Querry process of Jay Huff. Okay,

1889
01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, Man, they swung and missed

1890
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 1: on this guy. He can't play. You don't have any strength,

1891
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:31,400
Speaker 1: can't play, looks nervous, can't play. Then later in the year,

1892
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 1: Jake Querry's assessment. Boy, he hits two threes to start

1893
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:36,519
Speaker 1: every single game and then at the end of the

1894
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:39,520
Speaker 1: night finishes with eight points. But he can block some shots,

1895
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:44,000
Speaker 1: and I'll give him credit there. Now, I'm like, Okay,

1896
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 1: looks like a guy that could be a really nice

1897
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:51,559
Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty two minute per night guy to spell

1898
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 1: your starting center. Maybe needs to bulk up defensively, but

1899
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 1: I think is a good piece for them. But I

1900
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 1: don't know that you when if he is your your

1901
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:05,280
Speaker 1: regular piece at the center position, where do you believe

1902
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 1: that the brass of the pacers feels he is in

1903
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 1: terms of the now and the future?

1904
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think that's pretty much right. I mean,

1905
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 6: I think you've seen, you know, like I'm not going

1906
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,000
Speaker 6: off if they haven't told me, Hey, we definitely think

1907
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:21,160
Speaker 6: he's here. But I mean, I think you've obviously seen enough,

1908
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 6: you know, kind of smoke going around of them looking

1909
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 6: at starter caliber centers. But I mean, I would say

1910
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 6: one thing that Huffs does that I think changes your

1911
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 6: calculus a little bit that I think you're seeing in

1912
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:34,920
Speaker 6: some of those rumors is that if you have him

1913
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 6: as a backup option and he's a pick and pop guy,

1914
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 6: you know, in somebody who can shoot threes. You know,

1915
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 6: you can maybe afford to take a guy as a

1916
01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 6: starter who doesn't shoot threes, who's a really good rebounder,

1917
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 6: you know, really strong physical presence, defensively, good rim protector,

1918
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 6: stuff like that, you can afford to take. Not a chance,

1919
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 6: but you can afford to say, Okay, that's what we're

1920
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:55,840
Speaker 6: going to go with. We don't that's just if we

1921
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 6: have Huffs in our back pocket and a guy who

1922
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 6: can really stretch the floor, we can be okay with

1923
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 6: having somebody on the front line. It's not necessarily a

1924
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 6: three point shooter that does everything else, you know, like

1925
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 6: the Daniel Gaffords because Zu Bax. You know, guy like

1926
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 6: guys at that I mean, back's gonna be tough to

1927
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 6: get because the Clippers are starting to get competitive.

1928
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:12,759
Speaker 1: But you know your.

1929
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 6: Gafferds e's and misses. You know, those guys become more

1930
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 6: of a possibility if you have a guy in your

1931
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:19,600
Speaker 6: back pocket as a backup that can come in and

1932
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:22,080
Speaker 6: shoot threes and you need him off the fence. So

1933
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 6: I think that's the case. I mean, I you know,

1934
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 6: like if they the thought Huff could be the guy,

1935
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:29,960
Speaker 6: they obviously wouldn't be as active as they seem to

1936
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 6: be when it comes to these discussions to get a

1937
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 6: starting five man. And I think your assessment has mostly

1938
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 6: been writing is really tracks with mine that at first

1939
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:39,400
Speaker 6: you're like, oh man, this was not this This guy

1940
01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:40,640
Speaker 6: isn't who they thought he was going to be. But

1941
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 6: I mean, you saw him sort of block shots. He

1942
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 6: saw the three point shot get a little bit better,

1943
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 6: and you know, and one thing that they've talked about

1944
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:48,439
Speaker 6: a lot is that, you know, he had to figure

1945
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 6: out the end game conditioning. I mean, even if you

1946
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:53,439
Speaker 6: train for it, you know the extent to which they

1947
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 6: want to run. And obviously they haven't been a good

1948
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:58,000
Speaker 6: running and finishing team this year necessarily, but they still

1949
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 6: want to play fast, and they still want to shit,

1950
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:02,680
Speaker 6: and they still want to you defend. You know, your

1951
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 6: guy for ninety four feet and all those kinds of things.

1952
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 6: He had to get in better shape. Now he was

1953
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:09,519
Speaker 6: in bad shape, and he's just he's a skinny guy overall,

1954
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 6: and there's only so much bulk you're going to add

1955
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 6: to him because he's he's had to do a lot

1956
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:16,160
Speaker 6: of bulking up to get to this point. But you know,

1957
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:18,719
Speaker 6: he's figured out how to play this way. He's figured

1958
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:21,560
Speaker 6: out how to move off of these guys to understand,

1959
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:23,679
Speaker 6: you know, how to operate in this sort of randomized

1960
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:27,000
Speaker 6: action system. A lot of things have come together for him.

1961
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:29,760
Speaker 6: The confidence is much much better than it was a

1962
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 6: month and a half ago, two months ago, and there's

1963
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:33,400
Speaker 6: there's a lot of progress. But yeah, I would agree

1964
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:36,120
Speaker 6: he makes sense as a bench piece more than he does.

1965
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:38,760
Speaker 6: Is a long long term starter for them if they

1966
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 6: intend to be contenders again and if they intend to

1967
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:42,280
Speaker 6: be contenders next year.

1968
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:47,599
Speaker 1: Has Huff's ability to protect the rim now taken away?

1969
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 1: The necessity of finding that element within who it is

1970
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 1: that you're going to go out and.

1971
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 3: Get as your starter.

1972
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:56,720
Speaker 1: In other words, can they say to themselves, Hey, you

1973
01:37:56,800 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 1: know what, if we need rim protection then and then

1974
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:02,639
Speaker 1: we have that in Jay Huffin. We can use that

1975
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 1: sparingly and that means we don't need it out of

1976
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 1: our starter. Or are they still looking for someone that

1977
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:10,559
Speaker 1: replicates all the things that Miles Turner brought.

1978
01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 6: I mean, you have to look at all the things

1979
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:14,680
Speaker 6: Miles Turner broad You have to try to get all

1980
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:16,920
Speaker 6: those things I think you want better, like I think

1981
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 6: you'll you might trade one or the other, the shooting

1982
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:24,760
Speaker 6: or the shot blocking for better rebounding is how I

1983
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:26,040
Speaker 6: would put it. I mean, I think you want I

1984
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:28,040
Speaker 6: think they want better rebounding. I think that's important. I

1985
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:30,639
Speaker 6: think they know that's been a you know, something that's

1986
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 6: it's been an issue for them, and I think they

1987
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:34,639
Speaker 6: would like to get that better. I mean, because you're

1988
01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:36,120
Speaker 6: not just going to be're probably not just gonna go

1989
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:38,200
Speaker 6: back and get miles. Maybe you can, you know, like

1990
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:40,640
Speaker 6: I may, maybe Milwaukee's ready to sell right off of that,

1991
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:43,160
Speaker 6: and you know, maybe everybody can let buy bygones be

1992
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 6: bygones on everything. I doubt it, but you know that

1993
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 6: I don't see that coming. That seems unlikely to me.

1994
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 6: But if you're looking at a bunch of guys, I

1995
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:54,679
Speaker 6: think if you're going to have a guy who doesn't shoot,

1996
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 6: then you better have their own protection. I don't think

1997
01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 6: you're gonna be okay with just having an around the

1998
01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:01,920
Speaker 6: basket score and a rebounder and a good defensive player.

1999
01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:04,720
Speaker 6: If he can't either shooter block shots, I think he

2000
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:06,719
Speaker 6: has to do one of the two. And it seems

2001
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 6: to me like most of the guys that they've looked

2002
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:11,200
Speaker 6: at that aren't shooters? Are are rint protectors?

2003
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:11,600
Speaker 4: You know?

2004
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:13,640
Speaker 6: I think you have one, have to have one of

2005
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 6: those two elements if you don't have both.

2006
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to trade deadline coming up dustin Win exactly?

2007
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:20,760
Speaker 3: Is the trade deadline.

2008
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:23,679
Speaker 6: February fifth at three pm, I believe.

2009
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:26,600
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're looking at you know, we got what

2010
01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:28,519
Speaker 1: two weeks, three weeks.

2011
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:28,680
Speaker 3: Something like that.

2012
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:30,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll touch over too.

2013
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:33,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, how much two in a day?

2014
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:33,920
Speaker 3: Okay?

2015
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:37,640
Speaker 1: How much of Ben Matheren not being available due to

2016
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:42,360
Speaker 1: injury in any way, shape or form impacts Indiana's activity

2017
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 1: of the trade deadline.

2018
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 6: I mean I think it matters that. I think you know,

2019
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:49,479
Speaker 6: they Rick talked about him likely getting back on this trip.

2020
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:50,519
Speaker 4: He's still ruled.

2021
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:53,560
Speaker 6: Out for tonight against Boston. I mean, i'd have to

2022
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 6: think he gets up back on the floor soon, you know.

2023
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 6: I if I'm if I'm a team that's interested, you know,

2024
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:01,559
Speaker 6: you've got a shop. I mean, I like shopping him.

2025
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:04,040
Speaker 6: I think means getting him out on the floor so

2026
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 6: the teams can see where he's at with because he

2027
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:09,439
Speaker 6: does have real injuries, you know, like they're not made up.

2028
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 6: The thumb spring's not made up. He had the great

2029
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:15,640
Speaker 6: toast sprain before. You know, so those things are real.

2030
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:17,400
Speaker 6: They're not made up like they didn't just you know,

2031
01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 6: come up with a phantom injury to get him off

2032
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 6: the floor so they could just sit there and rest

2033
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:22,559
Speaker 6: him for for whoever else might want him. You know,

2034
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 6: I think if you're another team, you're going to want

2035
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:26,360
Speaker 6: to see him get on the floor to see if

2036
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:28,320
Speaker 6: he can help you. Now, you know, if you're a

2037
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 6: contender in particular, you know, you want to make sure

2038
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:32,719
Speaker 6: that he's in good in a good enough place that

2039
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:34,559
Speaker 6: that he can be you know what you're gonna want

2040
01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:35,720
Speaker 6: him to be if you're going to be willing to

2041
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:38,360
Speaker 6: part with a starting caliber center. You know, even if

2042
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:41,479
Speaker 6: you're not a contender, you're going to want to see something. Basically,

2043
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 6: even if it's a trade among two non contenders, I

2044
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 6: think you're gonna want to see something out of him

2045
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:47,680
Speaker 6: to make that move. So I think it could it

2046
01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:49,840
Speaker 6: could make an impact. I mean obviously if he comes

2047
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:52,920
Speaker 6: out and you know, suddenly we'd both doors off and

2048
01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:54,880
Speaker 6: he's he's a totally different guy, and you know, it

2049
01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:56,720
Speaker 6: gets Rick to the point where he's like, Okay, you

2050
01:40:56,720 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 6: can't move him. You know, like he's finally what I

2051
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:01,240
Speaker 6: wanted him to be all this time, then that might

2052
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:03,760
Speaker 6: change some things. But I do think it makes him

2053
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:05,800
Speaker 6: a little bit more marketable if he gets out and

2054
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 6: shows something in a week and a half, two weeks,

2055
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:10,840
Speaker 6: just to be like, Okay, he's healthy, he's good. It

2056
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:13,000
Speaker 6: was good that he took the time off, you know, like,

2057
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:15,200
Speaker 6: and he's going to be a useful player down the

2058
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 6: stretch for somebody. And I think that that makes some

2059
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 6: other things more palatable if if he shows just a little.

2060
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:23,800
Speaker 2: Bit in a couple of weeks Dustin. We've seen Kevin

2061
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:26,480
Speaker 2: Pritchett and Chad u Can and pulled off some miraculous

2062
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 2: trades that have gone in Indiana's favor. Obi Toppin is

2063
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 2: one just to kind of name one of the few.

2064
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 2: Are other teams potentially when they get that call from

2065
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:36,960
Speaker 2: Kevin pritchet to Chad you Can and they're like, wait, wait, wait,

2066
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 2: hold on, we need to rethink this because if these

2067
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:41,520
Speaker 2: guys are calling us, then we may have something.

2068
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:45,320
Speaker 6: Here a little But I mean, I think in fairness,

2069
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 6: I mean, I do think there's a lot of coaches

2070
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:49,760
Speaker 6: in the league, gams in the league to sort of

2071
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:53,400
Speaker 6: understand when they have a guy who's good that they're

2072
01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:55,280
Speaker 6: never going to be able to use, you know, and

2073
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 6: they don't have a problem necessarily with partying with those guys,

2074
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:01,599
Speaker 6: you know, and seeing them bessful somebody else ma Aaron

2075
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:03,720
Speaker 6: Neathmith and it will be the top in the two examples,

2076
01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 6: I mean, I think just it just had gone south

2077
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:08,439
Speaker 6: with the Knicks basically, and it was just never going

2078
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:10,559
Speaker 6: to work out with him, and he had to get

2079
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:13,200
Speaker 6: another home. And I think I don't think that there's

2080
01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 6: probably that surprise that you know that it will be

2081
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:18,719
Speaker 6: fit in Indiana, you know. And I think Aaron Neithmi

2082
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:21,479
Speaker 6: is absolutely that case in Boston that you know, like

2083
01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:24,600
Speaker 6: you you know, like you can't. Anytime I've talked to

2084
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:26,600
Speaker 6: anybody from Boston about him, they've been like, yeah, he

2085
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:29,040
Speaker 6: just didn't have a chance with with Jalen and Jason there,

2086
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:30,720
Speaker 6: like there was just never going to be an opportunity,

2087
01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:33,960
Speaker 6: you know, so like he had to go somewhere he

2088
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 6: was going to develop, He had to go somewhere he

2089
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:36,639
Speaker 6: was going to play, and it wasn't going to be here.

2090
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:40,519
Speaker 6: So like, so yes, I would say that you're like, okay,

2091
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:42,640
Speaker 6: if he's a guy that you're just not sure of

2092
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:45,880
Speaker 6: You probably recalculate your priors, but sometimes you're like, Okay,

2093
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:47,760
Speaker 6: this guy, we're just not gonna be able to use him.

2094
01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:49,200
Speaker 6: And the Pacers have had guys like that, you know,

2095
01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 6: I mean they had you know, I mean I think

2096
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 6: back to the Daniel Tye situation where like Rick carlile

2097
01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:56,680
Speaker 6: knew he had a functional center and Daniel Pice, but

2098
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:58,760
Speaker 6: he also had Jackson and Jalen Smith, and they were

2099
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 6: young guys and they needed menu ite and so Tys

2100
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:03,120
Speaker 6: just didn't fit. And literally they cut him because the

2101
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:04,680
Speaker 6: Clippers had a space for him. You know, it wasn't

2102
01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:07,040
Speaker 6: because they didn't think he could play, you know, and

2103
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 6: they couldn't make a trade workout because nothing worked money wise.

2104
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:15,200
Speaker 6: So there there are like if there's an even missy situation,

2105
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:16,880
Speaker 6: you know, that might be a guy that they could

2106
01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:18,559
Speaker 6: get and the Pelicans looking like, well, we're never going

2107
01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:21,880
Speaker 6: to have a real opportunity to showcase this guy, or

2108
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 6: you know, I mean like when the heat just gave

2109
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:26,400
Speaker 6: them to Thomas Bryant, like we don't have any use

2110
01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:28,120
Speaker 6: for him, Like we just we think he's a good player,

2111
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 6: we think he can help you. He can't help us

2112
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:32,519
Speaker 6: because he's just not going to break through. You know,

2113
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:34,640
Speaker 6: they're going to look for guys like that, And you know,

2114
01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:36,320
Speaker 6: I don't think other teams are going to feel bad,

2115
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:38,639
Speaker 6: you know, so like they messed up if they give

2116
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:40,680
Speaker 6: a guy a chance that he was never going to

2117
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:41,599
Speaker 6: get in their organization.

2118
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:43,680
Speaker 1: I realize health is a big part of what I'm

2119
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 1: about to ask Dustin. Dustin up here is our guest

2120
01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:47,680
Speaker 1: job House Peel and poor guest line. He's with the

2121
01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:50,639
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Star. I realize health is a factor here. Okay,

2122
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:54,840
Speaker 1: But having said that, sure, of these four players, I

2123
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:56,920
Speaker 1: want you to tell me which one you think we

2124
01:43:56,960 --> 01:43:59,640
Speaker 1: will historically look back on this season and say it

2125
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:03,839
Speaker 1: was the most missed opportunity for them to finally emerge.

2126
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:07,880
Speaker 1: Ben Matherin, Ben Shephard, Jerris Walker, Isaiah Jackson.

2127
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:16,600
Speaker 6: Ben Matherin, Yeah, Ben Matherin. I mean, I think I

2128
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:19,800
Speaker 6: might say jerrifs Walker in a month. I do think

2129
01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 6: Walker's done a couple of good things lately, and I'm

2130
01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 6: not but but I might. I might change my mind

2131
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 6: on that if Walker goes back South. You know, I

2132
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:31,320
Speaker 6: might elevate Walker over that because Walker hasn't not like

2133
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:34,479
Speaker 6: what's amazing is like Walker hasn't missed the game, you know,

2134
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:37,720
Speaker 6: and and just like what considering all the time he

2135
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:41,160
Speaker 6: was waiting to get an opportunity, you know, like for

2136
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:45,320
Speaker 6: there was a lot of squandered opportunity. I'm holding back

2137
01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 6: and putting him there just because at the last couple

2138
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:49,680
Speaker 6: of games, I'm starting to see it, and you know,

2139
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:51,920
Speaker 6: like it was interesting for Carla to really push that.

2140
01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:52,400
Speaker 4: Now.

2141
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:54,400
Speaker 6: Part of that might be that, hey, if you are

2142
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 6: thinking of a big move, you need Walker to look

2143
01:44:56,920 --> 01:44:58,640
Speaker 6: good too, because you might have to move Mather and

2144
01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 6: Walker together if you're swinging big enough. If you're looking

2145
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 6: for a twenty million dollar player, you need to be

2146
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:06,439
Speaker 6: able to package matter in a Walker together, because that's

2147
01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:08,640
Speaker 6: you need to get just to get there for salary purposes,

2148
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:11,519
Speaker 6: you know, like you might have to move both. And

2149
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 6: Kwylout might have been really making a point of pushing

2150
01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:17,479
Speaker 6: Walker to say, Hey, everybody, take a look at this guy.

2151
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:19,120
Speaker 4: But he's been better lately.

2152
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:21,800
Speaker 6: He's legitimately done some things that you hadn't seen him

2153
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 6: do yet. I think that this defense has been better.

2154
01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 6: He's been more solid defensively, you know, passing has been sharper,

2155
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:30,599
Speaker 6: cutting has been sharper, drives has been sharper. Just everything's

2156
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:33,240
Speaker 6: been a little bit better the last couple of weeks. So,

2157
01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:36,880
Speaker 6: you know, but if that progress goes away, I might

2158
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 6: flip that, you know, but Matherin's had just so many opportunities.

2159
01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 6: I mean, some of it is, some of it is also.

2160
01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:45,680
Speaker 6: I mean he looked really good early and you know

2161
01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:48,120
Speaker 6: when he got hurt, when he got back the second

2162
01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:51,519
Speaker 6: time between injuries, really during that eleven game, you know,

2163
01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:54,000
Speaker 6: that thirteen game losing streak, and he played eleven those games,

2164
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 6: you were like, where where is been?

2165
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:55,599
Speaker 1: Massive?

2166
01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:57,599
Speaker 6: Man? You know, like what like you're not even seeing

2167
01:45:57,600 --> 01:46:00,519
Speaker 6: what you're used to seeing out of him. And I thought,

2168
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:03,320
Speaker 6: you know, maybe even if he wasn't making a case

2169
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:05,800
Speaker 6: for the Pacers, even if even if you were saying, okay,

2170
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:08,720
Speaker 6: well with Haliburton out, he can't really prove himself that

2171
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:10,840
Speaker 6: he fits. You know, it's just a question of him

2172
01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:13,559
Speaker 6: showing out so that he can get paid elsewhere. You

2173
01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:15,439
Speaker 6: didn't see him show out like that, you know, I mean,

2174
01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 6: like the games before his first injury, and even you know,

2175
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:21,920
Speaker 6: kind of early on in his return, you're like, okay,

2176
01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:24,200
Speaker 6: like this guy, he is a scorer. He is a

2177
01:46:24,200 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 6: good player. He makes them better, you know, But that

2178
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:28,800
Speaker 6: had eleven games like they were, they were they were

2179
01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:31,519
Speaker 6: worse with him than they have been since he's been out,

2180
01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 6: and you know that, I think strikes it as a misopportunity.

2181
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:36,360
Speaker 6: There was a chance for him, even if he was

2182
01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 6: going to make his money with the Pacers, that he

2183
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:39,160
Speaker 6: could have made some money somewhere else.

2184
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:42,400
Speaker 1: And I feel like Isaiah Jackson. The unfortunate thing for

2185
01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:45,080
Speaker 1: Jackson has been the injury and the limit of times

2186
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 1: he's been able to be out on the floor.

2187
01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:49,439
Speaker 3: But dust and I'll be honest, I had not seen enough.

2188
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:51,479
Speaker 1: Body of work or evidence to say that he had

2189
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:54,200
Speaker 1: returned to his pre injury self.

2190
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:54,880
Speaker 3: Am I wrong?

2191
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:58,559
Speaker 6: Sure? Yeah, no, he and he'd admit that, you know,

2192
01:46:58,640 --> 01:47:00,720
Speaker 6: I mean I think he in there And he said,

2193
01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:04,000
Speaker 6: like you don't you know, we we've asked. Isaiah is

2194
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:07,240
Speaker 6: incredibly honest, and Isaiah gave us like very you know,

2195
01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:09,680
Speaker 6: verty not graphics, not the word, but I mean he

2196
01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:12,439
Speaker 6: just like when we asked them about the concussion, I mean,

2197
01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:15,600
Speaker 6: he gave us every symptom he had. And like Isaiah's

2198
01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:17,360
Speaker 6: just he's just that honest. You asked him a question,

2199
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 6: he gives you an answer, you know. I mean he

2200
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:21,559
Speaker 6: was straightforward telling us this is how much how much

2201
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:23,760
Speaker 6: weight he gained when he wasn't able to run, and

2202
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:26,519
Speaker 6: how he gained it, you know, going to raising Kaines

2203
01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:29,240
Speaker 6: by the place he was getting hyperbaric work. And so

2204
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:31,799
Speaker 6: if you ask Isaiah to say, no, I'm not quite

2205
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:34,719
Speaker 6: as explosives, like it does take a while to get back,

2206
01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 6: and it does. I think alarm belts isn't the word,

2207
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:40,200
Speaker 6: but like it should. You should then take that and

2208
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:43,400
Speaker 6: apply it to Tyres Haliburton too and say that. You know,

2209
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:45,320
Speaker 6: like if you think Tyree's is going to walk in

2210
01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:46,800
Speaker 6: he's going to be the same guy as he was

2211
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:48,799
Speaker 6: in games, you know, like Game.

2212
01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:51,320
Speaker 4: Seven before the injury, he's not. It's going to take

2213
01:47:51,360 --> 01:47:52,000
Speaker 4: a while.

2214
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:53,519
Speaker 6: Before, you know, like he's gonna be able to play,

2215
01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:55,360
Speaker 6: He's gonna be able to be useful, he's going to

2216
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:57,880
Speaker 6: make them better. But you're not going to see top

2217
01:47:57,960 --> 01:48:00,800
Speaker 6: level tie in October. It's going to be a few

2218
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:03,920
Speaker 6: months at least. And I think that's the case with

2219
01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:05,600
Speaker 6: Isaiah would just tell you like to explode, you know,

2220
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:08,519
Speaker 6: like there's trusting it. There's the mental side of it.

2221
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 6: There's the conditioning side of it, you know, there's your

2222
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:13,720
Speaker 6: body changes. I mean his body changed, he is, you know,

2223
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:15,400
Speaker 6: and I think you're going to see the same thing

2224
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:17,840
Speaker 6: with Haliburton, not the same level. I think Isaiah got

2225
01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:20,360
Speaker 6: bigger than Haliburton's going to get. But like you know,

2226
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:22,360
Speaker 6: you go a while without being able to do any

2227
01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:24,280
Speaker 6: cardio and your body changes. You know, you would add

2228
01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:27,360
Speaker 6: the muscle, but you're not as light on your feet

2229
01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:29,200
Speaker 6: as you were. You know, Isaiah was a long, skinny

2230
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:32,759
Speaker 6: guy who jumped really really high and now he's bigger, stronger,

2231
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:34,519
Speaker 6: and more physical and there's some things that made him

2232
01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:36,080
Speaker 6: better with that, but he's not the same high flyer

2233
01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:39,880
Speaker 6: that he was. So you'll see, you know, like it

2234
01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:42,040
Speaker 6: impacts different people different ways. I mean, I think you're

2235
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:44,200
Speaker 6: going to see a stronger Tyreus Haliburton in October. He

2236
01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:46,240
Speaker 6: is going to be better fit to deal with contact,

2237
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:48,800
Speaker 6: is going to be as fast, you know, I don't know.

2238
01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:52,120
Speaker 6: That's going to be an interesting thing to watch. So

2239
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:54,360
Speaker 6: this is it, you know again, it sets you back

2240
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:56,640
Speaker 6: for a long time and it changes your body, it

2241
01:48:56,720 --> 01:48:59,439
Speaker 6: changes your mind. It's an injury that that does mess

2242
01:48:59,439 --> 01:49:00,880
Speaker 6: with mess with you. Would it takes you a while

2243
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:03,440
Speaker 6: to come back and be the same person you were before.

2244
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:06,000
Speaker 3: It Indianapolis Star where you can read his work.

2245
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:08,519
Speaker 1: He'll have the cover to the Pacers and Celtics for

2246
01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:11,599
Speaker 1: tonight's game. That is a seven o'clock tip pregame at

2247
01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:14,519
Speaker 1: six thirty and dust it is a seven thirty tonight.

2248
01:49:15,439 --> 01:49:17,360
Speaker 6: I think it is I double hit. Let me make sure, Eddie,

2249
01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:20,840
Speaker 6: But I think I just saw that on the Apples.

2250
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:22,679
Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken. It is seven thirty.

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01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:26,800
Speaker 1: Yes, looks like somebody's fine writing on our little boarding here.

2252
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:28,320
Speaker 1: Eddie needs some amendment.

2253
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 2: Look at the look at it today.

2254
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 6: I apologize, Eddie. I was not trying to come.

2255
01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:36,360
Speaker 1: I'm Eddie Jake.

2256
01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:38,640
Speaker 2: Look at the today on the fan We've gotten on

2257
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:40,160
Speaker 2: the horizon at six.

2258
01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:45,280
Speaker 1: Seven, Dustin, do you ever watch Judge Judy.

2259
01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 6: No, No, it's on sometimes Judge Wopper.

2260
01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:51,040
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna let Dustin. We're gonna play Judge Dustin.

2261
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:53,960
Speaker 1: You're ready, Judge Dustin. I'm looking at a board that

2262
01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:56,760
Speaker 1: Eddie and his brilliant handwriting that actually looks like most

2263
01:49:56,760 --> 01:49:58,080
Speaker 1: girls that I went to middle school with.

2264
01:49:58,560 --> 01:49:59,879
Speaker 3: But he does have nice Penmanshi.

2265
01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:01,400
Speaker 4: Actually that's really a high compliment.

2266
01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:02,800
Speaker 3: I know he has very mention.

2267
01:50:02,920 --> 01:50:06,639
Speaker 1: It says this week in sports Pacers at Celtics Wednesday

2268
01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:10,519
Speaker 1: at seven p pregame at six thirty P. Underneath that

2269
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:13,879
Speaker 1: it says today on the horizon at six pm, Pacers

2270
01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 1: at Celtics at seven pm.

2271
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:23,240
Speaker 3: Pre game, right, yes, pre game at.

2272
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:26,400
Speaker 1: Seven All right, Dustin, thanks for settling that up, even

2273
01:50:26,439 --> 01:50:28,800
Speaker 1: though you didn't actually offer any sort of a verdict.

2274
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:31,639
Speaker 1: But I can tell you agreed with you felt my pain.

2275
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:34,040
Speaker 1: We're both right, We're both right. That's fair.

2276
01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:34,599
Speaker 3: That's fair.

2277
01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:39,040
Speaker 1: Appreciated, Dustin. I think I Dustin Appirac, who's in Boston.

2278
01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:40,639
Speaker 1: By the way, the last time I was in Boston

2279
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:44,679
Speaker 1: covering a PACER's Celtics game playoffs, Reggie Miller's last year.

2280
01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 3: That was the year that I was dead asleep.

2281
01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:49,160
Speaker 1: At about two o'clock in the morning, a little British

2282
01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 1: fella came walking in the room with his little roll

2283
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:52,679
Speaker 1: suitcase and said.

2284
01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:54,000
Speaker 2: Is it a British version of Derek? Is that what

2285
01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:54,639
Speaker 2: you're talking about?

2286
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:57,439
Speaker 3: Yes, very much so. And he said, excuse me, I

2287
01:50:57,479 --> 01:50:59,680
Speaker 3: believe you in my room, and I said, clearly not.

2288
01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:03,960
Speaker 1: It appears as though you just walked into mine and

2289
01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:06,080
Speaker 1: his name was Stenson. The only reason I know that

2290
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:08,400
Speaker 1: is because he left. Heney went to the what's at

2291
01:51:08,520 --> 01:51:10,840
Speaker 1: Barney Stinson from how I met your mother? I don't

2292
01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 1: know he's British. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Do you like

2293
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:17,720
Speaker 1: the Maats? It's the first thing he asked me. But

2294
01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:21,160
Speaker 1: once he left, then all I know is mister Stenson

2295
01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:24,240
Speaker 1: apparently was still on British time, because he put a

2296
01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:26,080
Speaker 1: wake up call in for like four thirty in the morning,

2297
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:28,800
Speaker 1: which they called to my room at four thirty like

2298
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 1: five six, I think seven. Finally I got so fed

2299
01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:33,840
Speaker 1: up and tired with it because I couldn't get any

2300
01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:36,160
Speaker 1: sleep that I went down to the front desk wearing

2301
01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:38,120
Speaker 1: boxers and a T shirt, my hair all tossled, and

2302
01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:40,240
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, listen, I'm in room two thirty eight

2303
01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:41,320
Speaker 1: and I'm not mister Stenson.

2304
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:41,920
Speaker 3: Can he please?

2305
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:47,240
Speaker 1: We're sorry, sir, so I still have a two free

2306
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:49,800
Speaker 1: nights at a hotel in Boston if you ever want

2307
01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:52,920
Speaker 1: to use him. I'm thinking statuteal limitations probably were out

2308
01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:54,519
Speaker 1: on that. I never did cash it in, but Pacer

2309
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:58,320
Speaker 1: Celtics tonight seven thirty pregame at seven we come back.

2310
01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:01,519
Speaker 1: There are some jejob openings in the world of sports,

2311
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:05,240
Speaker 1: and it could relate to one of your notable coaches

2312
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:10,080
Speaker 1: here in Indy. We'll explain now, Eddie, is this intentional?

2313
01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:11,400
Speaker 1: This is intentional?

2314
01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:13,519
Speaker 3: Okay, that's all I'll say.

2315
01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:19,160
Speaker 1: In the National Football League, there are a number of

2316
01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:21,640
Speaker 1: coaching vacancies.

2317
01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:23,839
Speaker 3: Several have been filled.

2318
01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:29,520
Speaker 1: Some of those kind of happened quietly, if you will,

2319
01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:36,240
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski going to Atlanta, leading Baker Mayfield to post.

2320
01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:38,679
Speaker 1: Of course you never know any more, like what's real,

2321
01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 1: what's fake, whatever else. But it appears as a Baker

2322
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:44,840
Speaker 1: Mayfield sent a post saying, I remember when you know

2323
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing. Stefanski was in Cleveland when Baker Mayfield was

2324
01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:52,600
Speaker 1: sent out, and he said, really looking forward to the

2325
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:55,360
Speaker 1: coach that still has yet to call or text me

2326
01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:57,760
Speaker 1: after I was driven out of Cleveland, looking forward to

2327
01:52:57,760 --> 01:53:02,439
Speaker 1: seeing you twice a year. But a multiple NFL Coach

2328
01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:06,599
Speaker 1: of the Year now in Atlanta, John Harbaugh in New

2329
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:08,640
Speaker 1: York with the Giants.

2330
01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:12,400
Speaker 3: Tennessee getting defensive.

2331
01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:19,880
Speaker 1: And going with the former Jets coach that, if I

2332
01:53:19,960 --> 01:53:25,280
Speaker 1: recall correctly, I remember when the Jets made a coaching

2333
01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:31,559
Speaker 1: change and this is one of those names that I

2334
01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:39,600
Speaker 1: always mispronounced. I realized that Robert Salah Selah Salah, I always.

2335
01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:39,760
Speaker 3: Get it wrong.

2336
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:42,360
Speaker 1: But either way, when he was with the Jets and

2337
01:53:42,360 --> 01:53:43,960
Speaker 1: got fired, I remember thinking, like what I mean, he

2338
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:46,520
Speaker 1: got like a fifty million dollar payout or some ridiculous

2339
01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:49,280
Speaker 1: amount of money. And at that time, I remember them saying,

2340
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:52,439
Speaker 1: you know, hey, what's your next move going to be?

2341
01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:53,840
Speaker 1: And I think he even said like, I'm going to

2342
01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:56,160
Speaker 1: be on a beach for a while. I'm thinking, heck, yeah.

2343
01:53:56,200 --> 01:53:58,479
Speaker 1: He's now in Tennessee, though, and a good coach and

2344
01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:01,400
Speaker 1: a coach that, despite his record in New York I

2345
01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:05,320
Speaker 1: think was seen as a defensive mind, is just kind

2346
01:54:05,320 --> 01:54:09,599
Speaker 1: of a tougher coach, and Tennessee just has I mean,

2347
01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:12,640
Speaker 1: they are down and out for certain right now, and

2348
01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:16,719
Speaker 1: I do think cam Ward started to show some things though.

2349
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:24,080
Speaker 1: But the jobs that are open Pittsburgh, Buffalo, the Las

2350
01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:32,360
Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders, Baltimore, Cleveland, and Arizona. Now, of those jobs,

2351
01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:39,000
Speaker 1: I think if you had to list it, Baltimore and

2352
01:54:39,120 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo would be the two most desirable because they have

2353
01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:51,400
Speaker 1: the most important piece, and that is quarterback. Now you

2354
01:54:51,440 --> 01:54:54,440
Speaker 1: could factor in do you want to go live in Buffalo.

2355
01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:55,680
Speaker 3: I get that, but.

2356
01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:00,680
Speaker 1: And eventually at some point are going to start to

2357
01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:03,400
Speaker 1: question whether or not Josh Allen is for the long

2358
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:05,760
Speaker 1: term the guy, I mean, I get that also, right,

2359
01:55:08,120 --> 01:55:11,920
Speaker 1: But with all of that said, he is still massively talented.

2360
01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:13,880
Speaker 1: That roster may not be as good as we think,

2361
01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:18,120
Speaker 1: and Alan as talented as he is. We saw in

2362
01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:22,000
Speaker 1: the game that where they were eliminated, you know, taking

2363
01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:24,040
Speaker 1: care of the football, what do I always say, teams

2364
01:55:24,120 --> 01:55:27,760
Speaker 1: when they lose, it usually is a microcosm of their season,

2365
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:30,960
Speaker 1: and Buffalo and Josh Allen taking care of the football

2366
01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:33,440
Speaker 1: sometimes has been a boogaboo, no question about that. But

2367
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:36,680
Speaker 1: of those jobs. And lou an Arumo again rumored to

2368
01:55:36,720 --> 01:55:40,200
Speaker 1: be or are going to, I should say, interview in

2369
01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:42,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo or Buffalo has asked permission, correct Eddie to talk

2370
01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:43,440
Speaker 1: to lou Anarum.

2371
01:55:43,560 --> 01:55:46,360
Speaker 2: That's correct. That was from Diana Russini a few hours ago. Yeah,

2372
01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:49,280
Speaker 2: that Loui an Arumo has been requested to be viewed

2373
01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 2: by the Bills for their head coaching vacancy. Just a reminder,

2374
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:54,440
Speaker 2: this is a third different team that has now reached

2375
01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:56,680
Speaker 2: out for lou Anarumo. The New York Giants did it.

2376
01:55:57,080 --> 01:55:59,880
Speaker 2: I know, initially when that job was open, Baltimore had

2377
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:03,480
Speaker 2: not parted ways with John Harball yet, so he was

2378
01:56:03,480 --> 01:56:05,800
Speaker 2: one of the names that a bunch of fans in

2379
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:08,640
Speaker 2: New York were clamoring for. Then John Harball became open,

2380
01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:11,560
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, we want Harball. And then Tennessee who

2381
01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:15,200
Speaker 2: hired Robert Sala. They were also a team that interviewed

2382
01:56:15,280 --> 01:56:18,520
Speaker 2: lou anmoh And now add the Buffalo Bills time.

2383
01:56:18,560 --> 01:56:20,680
Speaker 1: I always forget how to say Robert Sala's name. It's

2384
01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:23,480
Speaker 1: kind of like ebookom right.

2385
01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:24,600
Speaker 2: Bob Salah.

2386
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:27,280
Speaker 3: Bob Salah is.

2387
01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:32,800
Speaker 2: I don't know the Jerry still out like he was

2388
01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:35,480
Speaker 2: obviously New York with the Jets. But since Rex Ryan,

2389
01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:39,160
Speaker 2: who is Who's who has succeeded with the Jets. But

2390
01:56:39,600 --> 01:56:42,640
Speaker 2: I got a good question for you. You you followed the

2391
01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:46,280
Speaker 2: NFL for a while. Now, is Josh Allen this year's

2392
01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:52,240
Speaker 2: or this generation's John Elway? But he's obviously one of

2393
01:56:52,240 --> 01:56:54,000
Speaker 2: the best players at his position, one of the best

2394
01:56:54,040 --> 01:56:57,520
Speaker 2: players in the league, but just somehow falls up short

2395
01:56:58,400 --> 01:56:59,200
Speaker 2: in the postseason.

2396
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:09,320
Speaker 1: Yes, but yes, but you could even make the argument

2397
01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:12,280
Speaker 1: that perhaps Allen has had previously. That's a very good

2398
01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:19,400
Speaker 1: comparison because Elway was so dangerous with his legs at

2399
01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:23,040
Speaker 1: a time when a lot of quarterbacks were not. You know,

2400
01:57:24,160 --> 01:57:27,600
Speaker 1: one of my more unpopular opinions, especially considering the market

2401
01:57:27,600 --> 01:57:32,440
Speaker 1: in which I'm working. But the more that I go

2402
01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:36,440
Speaker 1: through it, the more that I think that John Elway

2403
01:57:36,520 --> 01:57:38,760
Speaker 1: might be the greatest quarterback of all time in terms

2404
01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:42,560
Speaker 1: of raw talent. Now I know Brady Brady. To me,

2405
01:57:44,200 --> 01:57:47,800
Speaker 1: I've really my level of respect for Tom Brady and

2406
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:50,680
Speaker 1: appreciation for Tom Brady has really gone up since he's

2407
01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:53,120
Speaker 1: been in the booth because and I'm not saying other

2408
01:57:53,160 --> 01:57:56,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks wouldn't have this his ability, like when he did

2409
01:57:56,080 --> 01:57:59,560
Speaker 1: a dissertation on the different angle in which you throw

2410
01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:03,520
Speaker 1: the football in wind versus non wind conditions, and the

2411
01:58:03,560 --> 01:58:06,839
Speaker 1: way you hold it, and just the analytics of everything

2412
01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:09,360
Speaker 1: that his mind is able to tell you about playing

2413
01:58:09,400 --> 01:58:13,560
Speaker 1: the quarterback position. Maybe every quarterback has that, but it's

2414
01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:17,280
Speaker 1: pretty remarkable. And I know that Manning is amazing, and Manning,

2415
01:58:17,560 --> 01:58:19,480
Speaker 1: you know, I think I took for granted because I

2416
01:58:19,520 --> 01:58:23,040
Speaker 1: covered every game Manning played, just the greatness with which

2417
01:58:23,080 --> 01:58:24,720
Speaker 1: I was working, because I had to look at it

2418
01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:31,240
Speaker 1: so antiseptically, but I can't deny that. But Elway. Your

2419
01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:33,560
Speaker 1: point is a good one, Eddie, because Elway was a

2420
01:58:33,640 --> 01:58:41,760
Speaker 1: guy that forever was an elite talent producer that couldn't

2421
01:58:41,800 --> 01:58:44,480
Speaker 1: win the big games quote unquote until he had a

2422
01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:46,240
Speaker 1: running game. And then when they got out and they

2423
01:58:46,240 --> 01:58:49,120
Speaker 1: got him and they brought in Sorell Davis, all of

2424
01:58:49,160 --> 01:58:51,000
Speaker 1: a sudden, then boom, he wins back to back and

2425
01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:52,200
Speaker 1: then he rides off in the sunset.

2426
01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. I recently watched the Elway documentary documentary. If I

2427
01:58:56,680 --> 01:58:59,640
Speaker 2: could talk documentary on Netflix, I'm like, that's Josh Allen.

2428
01:59:00,280 --> 01:59:01,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's Josh.

2429
01:59:01,560 --> 01:59:04,080
Speaker 1: That is a very fair because of his ability. The

2430
01:59:04,120 --> 01:59:06,720
Speaker 1: thing that Elway did that was so unique at that

2431
01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:09,840
Speaker 1: time was his ability to run and throw across his

2432
01:59:09,960 --> 01:59:14,440
Speaker 1: body mid stride. Was almost unforeseen. You know, Tarkent Dion

2433
01:59:14,520 --> 01:59:17,240
Speaker 1: probably could do it, but it was almost unforeseen at

2434
01:59:17,280 --> 01:59:19,400
Speaker 1: the time in which he came in Cunningham, but Cunningham

2435
01:59:19,440 --> 01:59:22,000
Speaker 1: didn't have the I don't think he had the arm strength,

2436
01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:25,120
Speaker 1: but not the precision that Elway did. But I would

2437
01:59:25,120 --> 01:59:28,160
Speaker 1: say Buffalo Baltimore are the two most desirable jobs that

2438
01:59:28,200 --> 01:59:31,840
Speaker 1: are available, followed probably by I think Pittsburgh would be

2439
01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:35,600
Speaker 1: very high on the list because of the solidarity. You

2440
01:59:35,640 --> 01:59:37,920
Speaker 1: know if you go to Pittsburgh that you're probably going

2441
01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:39,560
Speaker 1: to be there a long time because they don't like

2442
01:59:39,600 --> 01:59:43,040
Speaker 1: to cycle through coaches. I don't know why anybody Vegas

2443
01:59:43,080 --> 01:59:45,920
Speaker 1: would be of intrigue because you have the number one pick. Yep,

2444
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:48,160
Speaker 1: depends on how much you like Mendoza. You can't have

2445
01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:50,240
Speaker 1: number one. You've got brock Bowers.

2446
01:59:50,440 --> 01:59:50,800
Speaker 3: That's it.

2447
01:59:50,840 --> 01:59:54,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got correct you have two solid pieces

2448
01:59:54,320 --> 01:59:59,160
Speaker 1: to support a young quarterback, Max Crosby, uh Cleveland and Arizona.

2449
01:59:59,240 --> 02:00:02,120
Speaker 1: Cleveland is just dumpster fire at the quarterback position. That's

2450
02:00:02,120 --> 02:00:04,480
Speaker 1: the problem there. And I don't necessarily even mean that

2451
02:00:04,520 --> 02:00:07,320
Speaker 1: from the standpoint of talent within the quarterback room, but

2452
02:00:07,640 --> 02:00:11,920
Speaker 1: just the you're con you got guys that everybody wants

2453
02:00:11,960 --> 02:00:13,920
Speaker 1: this guy or that guy or this guy that guy Arizona.

2454
02:00:13,960 --> 02:00:15,480
Speaker 1: I don't think they have any idea what they're gonna

2455
02:00:15,480 --> 02:00:16,840
Speaker 1: do with Kyler Murray, right right.

2456
02:00:17,040 --> 02:00:19,840
Speaker 2: Obviously that's somebody that's going to be on the move,

2457
02:00:19,920 --> 02:00:24,320
Speaker 2: it sounds like, but nothing you know for sure, just

2458
02:00:24,360 --> 02:00:26,440
Speaker 2: because of the contract that Kyler Murray's got. It's one

2459
02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:29,160
Speaker 2: of the worst contracts in the NFL and finding a

2460
02:00:29,200 --> 02:00:32,040
Speaker 2: team you know, willing to take that, and some of

2461
02:00:32,080 --> 02:00:34,640
Speaker 2: the question marks just around his character in terms of

2462
02:00:35,120 --> 02:00:37,640
Speaker 2: how much he has dedicated to the game. You know,

2463
02:00:37,680 --> 02:00:39,720
Speaker 2: there's been so much about you know, a call of

2464
02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:42,840
Speaker 2: duty clause or whatever in his contract extension, this, that,

2465
02:00:42,920 --> 02:00:46,960
Speaker 2: and the other. I'm interested on the Pittsburgh front of things, though,

2466
02:00:47,240 --> 02:00:50,240
Speaker 2: out of all the jobs that are still open because

2467
02:00:50,360 --> 02:00:54,200
Speaker 2: they had the oldest roster last year, they currently don't

2468
02:00:54,200 --> 02:00:57,280
Speaker 2: have a quarterback. I mean, they have Will Howard, who

2469
02:00:57,280 --> 02:00:59,840
Speaker 2: they drafted in what the fourth or fifth round this

2470
02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:03,400
Speaker 2: past April, but outside of that, there's there's not really

2471
02:01:03,440 --> 02:01:06,560
Speaker 2: a ton to work with offensively, Like, they don't have

2472
02:01:06,600 --> 02:01:10,040
Speaker 2: a marquee name wide receiver. Sure they have DK Metcalf,

2473
02:01:10,560 --> 02:01:15,080
Speaker 2: but DK Metcalf isn't really the superstar receiver that some

2474
02:01:15,120 --> 02:01:15,920
Speaker 2: of these other teams have.

2475
02:01:15,960 --> 02:01:18,840
Speaker 1: Doesn't it feel like Metcalf's also aging? Yeah, a little bit,

2476
02:01:18,920 --> 02:01:20,520
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean that the Sands running

2477
02:01:20,520 --> 02:01:21,560
Speaker 1: through the hourglass on that one.

2478
02:01:21,640 --> 02:01:24,440
Speaker 2: I did like their run game with Kenneth Gainwell and

2479
02:01:26,000 --> 02:01:28,240
Speaker 2: Jalen Warren this past year, but outside of that, there's

2480
02:01:28,280 --> 02:01:30,080
Speaker 2: just not a lot to be desired on the offense

2481
02:01:30,080 --> 02:01:30,839
Speaker 2: in side of the football.

2482
02:01:31,520 --> 02:01:35,040
Speaker 1: I think that we and I'm guilty of this. I

2483
02:01:35,160 --> 02:01:36,840
Speaker 1: talked a lot for a long time about how the

2484
02:01:36,920 --> 02:01:40,040
Speaker 1: running game and the running back position have become kind

2485
02:01:40,040 --> 02:01:44,840
Speaker 1: of obsolete in today's NFL, and I say that, But yet,

2486
02:01:44,880 --> 02:01:49,520
Speaker 1: if you look at Los Angeles, meaning the Rams, you

2487
02:01:49,600 --> 02:01:55,040
Speaker 1: look at Seattle for certain you know their ability to

2488
02:01:55,240 --> 02:01:59,280
Speaker 1: complementary use their running game to keep defenses at bay

2489
02:01:59,400 --> 02:02:01,280
Speaker 1: and then get their passing game going.

2490
02:02:02,480 --> 02:02:02,600
Speaker 6: Well.

2491
02:02:02,680 --> 02:02:05,120
Speaker 1: When you have some of the weapons that Sam Darnold has,

2492
02:02:05,160 --> 02:02:07,360
Speaker 1: when you have some of the weapons that Matt Stafford has,

2493
02:02:07,560 --> 02:02:10,480
Speaker 1: it's going to be tough anyway to corral that passing game.

2494
02:02:10,880 --> 02:02:13,080
Speaker 1: But then all of a sudden, they just kind of

2495
02:02:13,160 --> 02:02:15,480
Speaker 1: knife at you here and there in the running game

2496
02:02:15,520 --> 02:02:16,600
Speaker 1: and it changes things.

2497
02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:17,920
Speaker 3: It just does.

2498
02:02:19,160 --> 02:02:22,120
Speaker 1: It, and it makes it in Seattle is as good

2499
02:02:22,120 --> 02:02:23,000
Speaker 1: as anybody at it.

2500
02:02:23,040 --> 02:02:23,280
Speaker 4: Now.

2501
02:02:23,360 --> 02:02:25,120
Speaker 1: They may be banged up here and we'll see what

2502
02:02:25,160 --> 02:02:29,400
Speaker 1: happens moving forward, but you got to have the backs

2503
02:02:29,440 --> 02:02:32,520
Speaker 1: as well. And that's why I think you know that Vegas,

2504
02:02:32,520 --> 02:02:35,360
Speaker 1: for example, I don't know that you go running reliant,

2505
02:02:35,360 --> 02:02:38,720
Speaker 1: but running complimentary is certainly a good way of doing things,

2506
02:02:38,760 --> 02:02:42,080
Speaker 1: No question, about it will come back. Jmv's in the building.

2507
02:02:42,080 --> 02:02:43,920
Speaker 1: I saw him walking around. We'll do the crossover. We'll

2508
02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:46,200
Speaker 1: find out what he's got going as well. We'll do

2509
02:02:46,240 --> 02:02:48,240
Speaker 1: it on the other side. Of course. That's brought to

2510
02:02:48,240 --> 02:02:51,080
Speaker 1: you by Love Heating and Air Love dash HVAC dot

2511
02:02:51,120 --> 02:02:54,400
Speaker 1: com three one seven three five three twenty one forty one,

2512
02:02:54,480 --> 02:02:56,680
Speaker 1: over one hundred years in business for Love Heating and Air.

2513
02:02:59,040 --> 02:03:03,840
Speaker 1: I believe I'm correct in this. Do you know what

2514
02:03:04,040 --> 02:03:07,280
Speaker 1: this song and NASA have in common?

2515
02:03:07,360 --> 02:03:07,560
Speaker 3: Eddie?

2516
02:03:07,640 --> 02:03:09,000
Speaker 10: There would be no reason for you to know this,

2517
02:03:09,040 --> 02:03:14,840
Speaker 10: by the way, they're both out of this world. Yes, yes,

2518
02:03:15,040 --> 02:03:18,760
Speaker 10: you're actually correct, and I'll tell why I believe.

2519
02:03:19,320 --> 02:03:23,960
Speaker 1: I believe that I'm correct in this. I believe that NASA,

2520
02:03:24,360 --> 02:03:27,600
Speaker 1: or I think it was the NASA organization put together

2521
02:03:27,800 --> 02:03:33,680
Speaker 1: essentially a for lack of a better phrase, a time capsule,

2522
02:03:35,000 --> 02:03:40,640
Speaker 1: but basically an Earth capsule that they launched into orbit

2523
02:03:41,080 --> 02:03:44,720
Speaker 1: or released into orbit, and it has a number of

2524
02:03:45,680 --> 02:03:52,560
Speaker 1: trinkets to describe life on planet Earth. And it has

2525
02:03:52,720 --> 02:03:56,240
Speaker 1: in it in this because as if, like you know,

2526
02:03:56,760 --> 02:03:59,880
Speaker 1: somebody from the planet Enoch that discovers this is going

2527
02:03:59,920 --> 02:04:03,080
Speaker 1: to know how to work a CD player They're probably

2528
02:04:03,080 --> 02:04:04,400
Speaker 1: going to say, like, well, what the heck is this?

2529
02:04:04,440 --> 02:04:05,760
Speaker 3: Can I download this to my phone?

2530
02:04:06,440 --> 02:04:12,040
Speaker 1: But this floating box that's out in space contains a

2531
02:04:12,240 --> 02:04:15,560
Speaker 1: device to play music, and it has one disc with

2532
02:04:15,760 --> 02:04:20,480
Speaker 1: one song to describe what music is on planet Earth,

2533
02:04:20,520 --> 02:04:23,400
Speaker 1: and that song is Johnny be good by Chuck Berry.

2534
02:04:23,600 --> 02:04:26,840
Speaker 1: I'm ninety five percent certain that I'm correcting that. If not,

2535
02:04:26,920 --> 02:04:29,040
Speaker 1: then I just told the weirdest story ever on radio

2536
02:04:29,200 --> 02:04:31,600
Speaker 1: of something that I had some sort of dream or vision,

2537
02:04:32,280 --> 02:04:35,720
Speaker 1: like you know, after eating a bad meal before three

2538
02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:36,320
Speaker 1: forty eight.

2539
02:04:36,200 --> 02:04:38,960
Speaker 2: In the morning, which is entirely possible, or rating my

2540
02:04:39,240 --> 02:04:44,360
Speaker 2: snack drawer thinking you were getting peach gummies instead of.

2541
02:04:44,400 --> 02:04:46,200
Speaker 1: When's the next time? When's the next time you're going

2542
02:04:46,240 --> 02:04:46,919
Speaker 1: to be in Seattle?

2543
02:04:47,280 --> 02:04:48,920
Speaker 2: It's a good question. I don't know if for making

2544
02:04:48,920 --> 02:04:51,680
Speaker 2: the Seattle trip this year, we got a bigger trip

2545
02:04:51,720 --> 02:04:53,120
Speaker 2: planned a couple months.

2546
02:04:53,160 --> 02:04:53,680
Speaker 1: Oh where's that?

2547
02:04:54,240 --> 02:04:54,400
Speaker 4: Oh?

2548
02:04:54,480 --> 02:04:56,600
Speaker 1: I believe you told me this? Are you at Liberty

2549
02:04:56,640 --> 02:04:57,280
Speaker 1: two divorces?

2550
02:04:57,560 --> 02:04:58,120
Speaker 3: Not yet.

2551
02:04:59,000 --> 02:05:00,520
Speaker 2: I don't want to jinx it, Jake. I don't want

2552
02:05:00,520 --> 02:05:03,000
Speaker 2: to jinx I want to make sure we are locked

2553
02:05:03,040 --> 02:05:07,760
Speaker 2: and loaded. But Te's and ies dotted and crossed before

2554
02:05:07,960 --> 02:05:08,920
Speaker 2: I make that announcement.

2555
02:05:09,080 --> 02:05:09,920
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough.

2556
02:05:12,080 --> 02:05:12,640
Speaker 4: The uh.

2557
02:05:14,240 --> 02:05:15,760
Speaker 1: The other thing I was going to ask you about

2558
02:05:15,800 --> 02:05:20,080
Speaker 1: this about Seattle. I thought about this. I try to

2559
02:05:20,120 --> 02:05:22,800
Speaker 1: be very conscientious of the listening audience and of the

2560
02:05:23,480 --> 02:05:25,040
Speaker 1: brand of the station and what we're doing.

2561
02:05:25,120 --> 02:05:25,320
Speaker 3: Right.

2562
02:05:26,920 --> 02:05:29,760
Speaker 1: I will readily admit I'm not necessarily a fan of

2563
02:05:29,800 --> 02:05:33,000
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, but I've always loved their uniforms. And as

2564
02:05:33,040 --> 02:05:35,920
Speaker 1: I mentioned before, the Seattle Seahawks when I was a

2565
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:38,280
Speaker 1: kid were always the late game. They were always the

2566
02:05:38,280 --> 02:05:42,240
Speaker 1: four o'clock game from the Kingdome, and they weren't very good.

2567
02:05:42,280 --> 02:05:44,200
Speaker 1: They were okay, I mean they were always competitive, but

2568
02:05:44,360 --> 02:05:48,320
Speaker 1: Kingdome or Kingdom, that would be the Kingdome, the Kingdom

2569
02:05:48,360 --> 02:05:51,600
Speaker 1: of the Kingdome, right, And I have a fabulous shirt

2570
02:05:51,600 --> 02:05:52,880
Speaker 1: that you gave me that has the Kingdome on it

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02:05:52,920 --> 02:05:53,600
Speaker 1: that says Seattle.

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02:05:53,600 --> 02:05:54,360
Speaker 3: I love their colors.

2573
02:05:54,360 --> 02:05:56,920
Speaker 1: I love the gym Zorn uniforms, the green, the blue,

2574
02:05:57,200 --> 02:06:00,280
Speaker 1: you know all that, and what I see, even though

2575
02:06:00,320 --> 02:06:03,320
Speaker 1: now they haven't played indoors in forever, when I see

2576
02:06:03,320 --> 02:06:05,600
Speaker 1: the Seahawks play, it does kind of remind me of

2577
02:06:05,640 --> 02:06:08,960
Speaker 1: those those days, you know, with like a fire in

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02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:11,040
Speaker 1: the fireplace and watching it when I was a little kid,

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02:06:11,800 --> 02:06:13,760
Speaker 1: and so I've always kind of liked the Seahawks and

2580
02:06:13,800 --> 02:06:18,800
Speaker 1: I don't like, I don't dislike per Se, but the

2581
02:06:18,880 --> 02:06:21,920
Speaker 1: Rams are okay, they're cool. My buddy Andre Murray is

2582
02:06:21,920 --> 02:06:23,800
Speaker 1: a huge Rams fan. We got like a little I mean,

2583
02:06:24,040 --> 02:06:27,720
Speaker 1: they're cool. But I'm not a fan of the Patriots.

2584
02:06:27,720 --> 02:06:30,520
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of EH on the Patriots and I'm

2585
02:06:30,600 --> 02:06:33,840
Speaker 1: kind of EH on the Broncos. So I guess just

2586
02:06:33,880 --> 02:06:35,480
Speaker 1: by default, I'm like, yeah, I really do want to

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02:06:35,480 --> 02:06:39,400
Speaker 1: see Seattle win. And I have I think a total

2588
02:06:39,480 --> 02:06:42,440
Speaker 1: of I might have three or four Seahawks T shirts,

2589
02:06:42,520 --> 02:06:44,440
Speaker 1: and admittedly I have them because I like the look

2590
02:06:44,480 --> 02:06:46,640
Speaker 1: of it and I like the logo you got me

2591
02:06:46,720 --> 02:06:50,400
Speaker 1: one of them. Question is considering I'm doing a sports

2592
02:06:50,440 --> 02:06:53,280
Speaker 1: talk radio program in Indianapolis, Indiana, and they are the

2593
02:06:53,320 --> 02:06:56,920
Speaker 1: cults here in Indianapolis, Indiana, and people are Colts fans

2594
02:06:56,960 --> 02:06:59,120
Speaker 1: and they're watching on YouTube, thank you very much. When

2595
02:06:59,120 --> 02:07:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm doing the show here, is it like not cool

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02:07:04,120 --> 02:07:07,400
Speaker 1: if I wear a Seahawks T shirt on when I'm

2597
02:07:07,440 --> 02:07:10,640
Speaker 1: doing the show and I'm not doing it like in

2598
02:07:10,720 --> 02:07:13,880
Speaker 1: a I'm painting my face. Let's go Seahawks. Way as

2599
02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:16,600
Speaker 1: much as Yeah, like, I think they're like sporty and

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02:07:16,640 --> 02:07:18,480
Speaker 1: fashionable and it's cool they're playing.

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02:07:19,720 --> 02:07:20,000
Speaker 3: Eddie.

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02:07:20,080 --> 02:07:21,720
Speaker 1: I'll let you be the judge and jury on this.

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02:07:22,640 --> 02:07:25,640
Speaker 1: Your thoughts, if.

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02:07:25,560 --> 02:07:27,800
Speaker 2: I'm being honest, Jake, I was doing some production work

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02:07:27,840 --> 02:07:30,680
Speaker 2: back here, so I only call it Eddie. I'll bring

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02:07:30,720 --> 02:07:33,080
Speaker 2: you in on this, your thoughts. Going to assume it

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02:07:33,120 --> 02:07:36,640
Speaker 2: has something to do with just the Seahawks and their

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02:07:36,720 --> 02:07:38,520
Speaker 2: uniforms and their colors being one of the greatest and

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02:07:38,600 --> 02:07:39,800
Speaker 2: all the sports, and I would agree.

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02:07:41,880 --> 02:07:44,760
Speaker 1: Do you people are you hearing? Are you hearing what

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02:07:44,800 --> 02:07:48,960
Speaker 1: it is here? You know, in the song Civil War

2612
02:07:49,440 --> 02:07:51,280
Speaker 1: by Guns and Roses? Do you have the song civil

2613
02:07:51,280 --> 02:07:52,400
Speaker 1: War by Guns and Roses?

2614
02:07:52,560 --> 02:07:53,160
Speaker 3: Cute up, Betty?

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02:07:53,200 --> 02:07:55,480
Speaker 2: I don't have a cute up, Jake. It's not like

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02:07:55,520 --> 02:07:59,040
Speaker 2: I have these things just at my disposal here. I've

2617
02:07:59,080 --> 02:08:02,320
Speaker 2: got to search for it this time. You also did

2618
02:08:02,400 --> 02:08:04,760
Speaker 2: say earlier, Jake, that you know, the attention span of

2619
02:08:04,760 --> 02:08:08,920
Speaker 2: people is, you know, not as long as other as

2620
02:08:08,920 --> 02:08:11,640
Speaker 2: it used to be. And so you know, you lost

2621
02:08:11,680 --> 02:08:13,960
Speaker 2: me there for a second when you after you're talking

2622
02:08:14,000 --> 02:08:17,320
Speaker 2: about Seattle, what did I miss?

2623
02:08:17,920 --> 02:08:19,680
Speaker 1: Good and good and pop me up over here?

2624
02:08:19,720 --> 02:08:26,200
Speaker 2: If you could Okay, we've.

2625
02:08:25,880 --> 02:08:29,480
Speaker 3: Got here is failure.

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02:08:31,880 --> 02:08:34,240
Speaker 1: Some man, you just can't.

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02:08:34,680 --> 02:08:35,080
Speaker 3: I tried.

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02:08:35,720 --> 02:08:39,040
Speaker 1: I tried what we had here last week, which is

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02:08:39,080 --> 02:08:39,400
Speaker 1: the way.

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02:08:40,240 --> 02:08:41,000
Speaker 2: By the way, No.

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02:08:41,160 --> 02:08:45,680
Speaker 1: I was simply asking, I'll let listen, I'll let JMV answer. Okay, John,

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02:08:45,720 --> 02:08:49,160
Speaker 1: here's my question for you. You're sure. Yes. When I

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02:08:49,200 --> 02:08:50,960
Speaker 1: was a kid, and I don't know if you remember

2634
02:08:51,000 --> 02:08:54,640
Speaker 1: this or not, but in my memory football games when

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02:08:54,640 --> 02:08:56,760
Speaker 1: I was a kid on Sunday, the late game, the

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02:08:56,800 --> 02:08:59,680
Speaker 1: four o'clock game. Yeah, more often than not. In my memory,

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02:08:59,720 --> 02:09:02,520
Speaker 1: I allays remember seeing the Seattle Seahawks in the Kingdome.

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02:09:03,240 --> 02:09:05,960
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I love their uniforms. Yeah,

2639
02:09:06,040 --> 02:09:07,800
Speaker 1: back then I thought they were cool. So I have

2640
02:09:08,200 --> 02:09:11,000
Speaker 1: a handful of Seahawks T shirts that I bought, mostly

2641
02:09:11,000 --> 02:09:14,120
Speaker 1: because I love the logo. Sure, but I'm like, you

2642
02:09:14,160 --> 02:09:17,520
Speaker 1: know what, I might as well give myself a rooting

2643
02:09:17,600 --> 02:09:20,080
Speaker 1: interest here down the stretch and I'll just follow the

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02:09:20,080 --> 02:09:21,840
Speaker 1: Seahawks here since they're still in it.

2645
02:09:21,960 --> 02:09:22,600
Speaker 3: But is it.

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02:09:22,560 --> 02:09:25,080
Speaker 1: Uncool if I wear a Seahawks T shirt doing a

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02:09:25,160 --> 02:09:27,280
Speaker 1: radio show in Indianapolis this week? I don't think so.

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02:09:28,080 --> 02:09:29,000
Speaker 1: Is it throwback too?

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02:09:29,280 --> 02:09:29,480
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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02:09:29,480 --> 02:09:32,000
Speaker 11: I think you can wear a throwback of anybody's Yeah,

2651
02:09:32,520 --> 02:09:34,680
Speaker 11: and it's not like the Seahawks are this huge rival

2652
02:09:34,680 --> 02:09:37,000
Speaker 11: of the Colts, and the Seahawks aren't keeping the Colts

2653
02:09:37,160 --> 02:09:39,600
Speaker 11: out of the postseason. The Colts are keeping the Colts

2654
02:09:39,840 --> 02:09:41,640
Speaker 11: right out of the post Yes, Sunburn, by the way,

2655
02:09:41,800 --> 02:09:45,640
Speaker 11: did I really I didn't think so, man, Really, huh.

2656
02:09:45,720 --> 02:09:48,400
Speaker 11: I had a good ass time down there, buddy. Let

2657
02:09:48,440 --> 02:09:50,160
Speaker 11: me tell you how much sleep did you get?

2658
02:09:50,240 --> 02:09:50,720
Speaker 1: Not much.

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02:09:51,360 --> 02:09:54,360
Speaker 11: I was on the bus that was struggling yesterday trying

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02:09:54,360 --> 02:09:55,000
Speaker 11: to get back here.

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02:09:55,400 --> 02:09:55,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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02:09:55,680 --> 02:09:58,480
Speaker 11: I was between two dudes. It was like three bros.

2663
02:09:58,600 --> 02:10:00,920
Speaker 11: I was the last one of the plane on the

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02:10:00,920 --> 02:10:03,080
Speaker 11: way down and on the way back. I have no

2665
02:10:03,160 --> 02:10:05,560
Speaker 11: idea how that happens. Well, I dude, know, when I

2666
02:10:05,600 --> 02:10:07,960
Speaker 11: was going down, I was in the bar and then

2667
02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:09,840
Speaker 11: somebody said, hey, you know what, this is last call

2668
02:10:09,920 --> 02:10:13,120
Speaker 11: for your flight here, and I go okay, So I.

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02:10:12,440 --> 02:10:16,440
Speaker 1: Jumped on it. But I was last on coming back yesterday.

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02:10:16,800 --> 02:10:20,480
Speaker 1: So were you on an airline that had assigned seating

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02:10:20,880 --> 02:10:22,000
Speaker 1: or I was southwest?

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02:10:22,160 --> 02:10:24,360
Speaker 11: I was southwest, so the rest of the group when

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02:10:24,440 --> 02:10:26,120
Speaker 11: Allegiant I went southwest.

2674
02:10:26,200 --> 02:10:27,000
Speaker 3: So you were in the middle.

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02:10:27,280 --> 02:10:27,560
Speaker 1: I was.

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02:10:27,640 --> 02:10:30,280
Speaker 11: I was in the middle. I took the last seat

2677
02:10:30,400 --> 02:10:33,320
Speaker 11: on the plane available. It was full except for the

2678
02:10:33,360 --> 02:10:36,760
Speaker 11: seat that my ass sat down in. Yeah, you're the

2679
02:10:36,760 --> 02:10:38,760
Speaker 11: guy that everybody's like. You know, there were two good

2680
02:10:38,800 --> 02:10:40,840
Speaker 11: you know that there were two people that right there.

2681
02:10:40,960 --> 02:10:42,560
Speaker 1: This would be They're like, oh man, this would be

2682
02:10:42,640 --> 02:10:44,280
Speaker 1: huge if nobody shows up in this middle seat and

2683
02:10:44,360 --> 02:10:46,960
Speaker 1: they were both hanging incredibly as low as made too.

2684
02:10:47,000 --> 02:10:49,280
Speaker 1: It's like three hanging low bros. Back there.

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02:10:49,360 --> 02:10:52,440
Speaker 11: What person of that crowd was Indiana six sixty five?

2686
02:10:52,560 --> 02:10:55,880
Speaker 11: I said sixty five? I thought easily sixty five.

2687
02:10:56,600 --> 02:10:58,960
Speaker 1: Now, other than the foo bar of getting in the stadium,

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02:10:59,000 --> 02:11:00,960
Speaker 1: and I think you played it smart because you got

2689
02:11:00,960 --> 02:11:03,040
Speaker 1: there late and so it wasn't as heck. Shout out

2690
02:11:03,040 --> 02:11:04,160
Speaker 1: to Kyle Kinnett man.

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02:11:04,720 --> 02:11:06,480
Speaker 11: Yeah, for the driver, right he got He got me

2692
02:11:06,560 --> 02:11:09,000
Speaker 11: a driver and a black SUV and that guy got

2693
02:11:09,000 --> 02:11:11,640
Speaker 11: me out there thirty minutes before the kick and then

2694
02:11:11,680 --> 02:11:13,200
Speaker 11: he was to do it. He was waiting in the

2695
02:11:13,240 --> 02:11:14,839
Speaker 11: parking lot for me when I was done.

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02:11:15,120 --> 02:11:16,680
Speaker 1: That's the way to do it now. But how was

2697
02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:18,320
Speaker 1: the stadium? Is it a cool stadium? That's I think

2698
02:11:18,320 --> 02:11:20,840
Speaker 1: it's great. There's not a bad seat in the place,

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02:11:20,920 --> 02:11:23,160
Speaker 1: to be honest, yeah. The only thing there are no

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02:11:23,240 --> 02:11:26,160
Speaker 1: TVs in the concourse. It does weird look very big,

2701
02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:28,560
Speaker 1: like it doesn't look like it's a huge venue, you know.

2702
02:11:28,640 --> 02:11:31,000
Speaker 1: And that's my one complaint with Lucas Oil has always

2703
02:11:31,000 --> 02:11:33,760
Speaker 1: been it's so cavernous. It's just it's almost too bad.

2704
02:11:33,840 --> 02:11:35,520
Speaker 11: They have the F one race. They have a track.

2705
02:11:35,560 --> 02:11:38,120
Speaker 11: The F one track goes around the stadium.

2706
02:11:38,400 --> 02:11:39,800
Speaker 1: That's cool. Yeah, that's cool.

2707
02:11:39,880 --> 02:11:41,360
Speaker 11: You get to walk over that to go there. But

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02:11:41,560 --> 02:11:44,600
Speaker 11: I thought it was easy in and easy out. We

2709
02:11:44,680 --> 02:11:46,880
Speaker 11: actually beat the bus back by an hour and a

2710
02:11:46,920 --> 02:11:50,400
Speaker 11: half because it was me and Jaylaw who came back

2711
02:11:50,480 --> 02:11:53,320
Speaker 11: with me in this suv, and then two the people

2712
02:11:53,320 --> 02:11:56,520
Speaker 11: I were sitting next to, Mike and somebody else I

2713
02:11:56,600 --> 02:11:58,240
Speaker 11: apologize for not remember the name.

2714
02:11:58,520 --> 02:11:59,480
Speaker 1: They were just sitting.

2715
02:11:59,200 --> 02:12:00,400
Speaker 11: There and I said, hey, you got just want to

2716
02:12:00,400 --> 02:12:02,160
Speaker 11: get back quicker than going on this bus. They go,

2717
02:12:02,160 --> 02:12:04,280
Speaker 11: oh yeah, so they just now. The problem I had

2718
02:12:04,400 --> 02:12:06,600
Speaker 11: is I forgot where he parked, and I had to

2719
02:12:06,600 --> 02:12:08,720
Speaker 11: call him and go, hey, Lenny, I forgot where where

2720
02:12:08,760 --> 02:12:09,240
Speaker 11: am I here?

2721
02:12:09,280 --> 02:12:11,280
Speaker 1: I couldn't remember where he was at the parking lot.

2722
02:12:11,360 --> 02:12:13,800
Speaker 11: But we got out there okay, and he got back

2723
02:12:14,040 --> 02:12:17,240
Speaker 11: all of Zionsville Jake was in this diplomat hotel.

2724
02:12:17,360 --> 02:12:19,200
Speaker 1: I met everybody from Zionsville.

2725
02:12:19,200 --> 02:12:20,680
Speaker 3: Half a Hamilin County was up there too.

2726
02:12:20,720 --> 02:12:21,440
Speaker 1: It was incredible.

2727
02:12:21,840 --> 02:12:25,120
Speaker 2: Two quick things before we go, John, the happy belated

2728
02:12:25,160 --> 02:12:26,080
Speaker 2: birthday to Laney.

2729
02:12:26,160 --> 02:12:28,000
Speaker 1: Laney Lou was sixteen yesterday.

2730
02:12:28,120 --> 02:12:29,960
Speaker 2: Today it's my sister's birthday.

2731
02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:31,880
Speaker 1: So happy birthday, sister. That's awesome.

2732
02:12:31,880 --> 02:12:33,920
Speaker 11: A Blake is the twenty sixth and he's going to

2733
02:12:33,920 --> 02:12:35,800
Speaker 11: Miami Friday as a birthday gift.

2734
02:12:35,840 --> 02:12:38,520
Speaker 1: Oh boy, Yeah, Mike Thomas.

2735
02:12:38,280 --> 02:12:40,200
Speaker 2: Is going to Miami there.

2736
02:12:41,760 --> 02:12:44,400
Speaker 1: To get Lenny to drive him around. But no, thank you, Eddie.

2737
02:12:44,600 --> 02:12:47,240
Speaker 1: Lanny had a great sixteenth yesterday, So thank you. John's

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02:12:47,280 --> 02:12:48,960
Speaker 1: up next. You'll bring you home. We'll be back with

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02:12:49,000 --> 02:12:50,960
Speaker 1: you noon tomorrow. I thank you for listening to Couring Company.