1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: A Wednesday that feels like a Friday. Happy Thanksgiving to 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: everyone out there. Thank you for closing out I guess 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: I maybe you aren't closing out your week, but we're 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: closing out our week here on the Fan. It is 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: an absolutely loaded Wednesday show for you. We'll have plenty 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: of football action, basketball action, We'll throw some Thanksgiving your way, 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: and a lot of guests as well. Mark Darkton, let's 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: reward right here in the spirit of the holiday season. 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: How about another four pack to go see the Bulldogs 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: coming up on Friday afternoon. Thad Model will join us 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: here at eight thirty. It's Butler Wright states at two 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: o'clock on Friday, Mark you, we can go text line 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: you and go phone line. What's easiest for you? 14 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: Well, I'd say text line at the moment because we're 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: dealing with some programming issues. So let's go text line. 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: Three one, seven, two, three, nine, ten seventy. Shoot us 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: a text simply Bulldogs. In the text you text Bulldogs. 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: Mark Dyton will pick out a winner, name and email 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: and the four pack of tickets to go see coming 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: up on Friday. James Boyd hoops were on your agenda 21 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: last night? 22 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: Were they not? 23 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 4: Yes they were. 24 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 5: So I had to go back and rewatch Iu in 25 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 5: Kansas State because I went to Ben Davis Fishers at 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 5: Ben Davis last night boys basketball season opener, and it 27 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 5: was a good game, very good game. Shoutout to Tyler 28 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 5: and Bryson who are on the call for the Ben 29 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 5: Davis Giants. And I believe Tyler actually goes to Cascade, 30 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 5: so he told me to wish him good luck when 31 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 5: it comes to their football program. 32 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: A little three action coming up Friday afternoon for Gas. 33 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 5: But I enjoyed it, man, it was good. Rake was 34 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 5: there calling the game. They didn't get a chance to 35 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 5: talk to him. We'll talk to They pulled it out, 36 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 5: yes they did. They were down with the half by one, 37 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 5: pulled it out because that's what they usually do in 38 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 5: those moments. But I think both teams are gonna be 39 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 5: very good this year. And it felt kind of like 40 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 5: a playoff game there for a second. So nice early 41 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 5: hoops action to usher in. I feel like another part 42 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 5: of our sports calendar. 43 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Greg, Greg shaw course will join us the busiest 44 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: man on Thanksgiving week. He'll join us coming up here. 45 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: I think he's on the TV call for Butler on 46 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: Friday so Raych will join us. We'll talk some colts 47 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: with Stephen Holder. I know James Boyd has dropped the 48 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: T word when it comes to the pacers, and not Thanksgiving, 49 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: that would be it rhymes with spank. I don't know 50 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: why spank a. 51 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 4: Little risky this morning, a word that I choose. 52 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: Well, you know what tonight is. You cared explain M 53 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: Tonight you head back to your old hometown. There you 54 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: venture out to the local watering hole. And boy, I 55 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: didn't know she looked like that these days he has been. 56 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: It's been. 57 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: You know, I always had a crush on you back 58 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: in the day. You know you maybe drop out immature, 59 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: you know. 60 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 5: You know I was talking so much on basketball and grades. 61 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 5: How you doing something along those lines. 62 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: I believe Jay and b will be have brothers in 63 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: broad Ripp'll certainly have a black Wednesday or two to 64 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: remember from. 65 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: There or not. Remember. 66 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: Everybody safe travels uh in what is one of the 67 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: busier travel days of the entire year. But as James said, 68 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: hoops last night down in Bloomington. Very impressed once again 69 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: by Darren Devreese's bunch. Right out of the gate, it 70 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: looked like three point contests they built a huge early lead, 71 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: and in the second half, after Kansas State had countered 72 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: a little bit, then they built a lead kind of 73 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: in a different way by a little bit more driving 74 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: getting to the foul line. So I think what we've 75 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: grown used to with this team so far is maybe 76 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: the label of its three points or bus you know, 77 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: that sort of aspect to them. And I think last 78 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: night they proved an ability to build maintain leads in 79 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: other ways and their defense. We talked about it yesterday. 80 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: Kansas State was one of the highest scoring teams in 81 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: all of college basketball. Indiana holds them to sixty nine 82 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: last night. Very impressive again in building leads in a 83 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: couple different ways from Darren Devrees and company. 84 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 5: Absolutely, you know what I think of, like three point 85 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 5: contests and shooting competitions and stuff like that. And Lamar 86 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 5: Wilkerson has to be up there. The guy can just 87 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 5: flyshoot the basketball. When they got to steal early in 88 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 5: the game, he just stops the transition. I think if 89 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 5: it might have been the two one one or three 90 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 5: on two, and normally in a basketball setting or basketball practice, 91 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 5: your coach is going to tell you, hey, move the ball, 92 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 5: go get a layup. You know, don't settle for jump shots. 93 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 5: He just steps right into a three switch, and I'm like, Oh, 94 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 5: that's the kind of game we're gonna have today. So 95 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 5: I think when we were talking the other day about 96 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 5: how they shot it kind of poorly against I believe 97 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 5: what was it, linnen Wood, Kevin in Curnet Ward, I'm 98 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 5: sorry in Crene A Ward when they shot it poorly 99 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 5: against them? 100 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: Sorry, what Lindon went was Purdue raight, I'm sorry, Lyndon 101 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: would also I you played, but I think it was 102 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: the word they struggled against. 103 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, So when they shot it poorly against them, we 104 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 5: were kind of like, oh, man, you know, is the 105 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 5: early season shooting kind of an anomaly or should we 106 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 5: be concerned here a little bit because the compasstion is 107 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 5: gonna get stiffer, might not gets many shots. And now, granted, 108 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 5: I thought yesterday shot it very very well and they 109 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 5: continue to think prove that that is going to be 110 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 5: a strength for them now relatively only in the season. 111 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 5: But I was impressive with what I saw for sure. 112 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 5: I didn't expect him to blow them out like they did. 113 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 5: And like you said, it's kind of do it twice basically. 114 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, they shot ten threes by the first media timeout. 115 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: I would have to look it up, but I am 116 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 1: willing to bet there might be at least ten games 117 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: in the Mike Woodson era they didn't even shoot ten 118 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: threes in an entire game. So like that, I mean, 119 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: that is their mantra. You know, they are the spurt 120 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: ability team. You mentioned Wilkerson, I mean him and Devrez 121 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: will shoot threes from the volleyball line, you know, endlessly. 122 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: They they don't even need to make one or two 123 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: all of a sudden stretch it out there. 124 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 5: They're called what I call wake up shooters. You know, 125 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 5: you have certain players where they got to like warm up. 126 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: Two keeled shooters. 127 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 4: Yes, well you can walk in the gym ice cold 128 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: and you can just shoot. 129 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: And shout out to Connor Kenny Powers and right. That 130 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: dude is old school, small town Indiana boy. He you know, 131 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I don't know if he showering 132 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: every day of the week, but that man lives on 133 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: the floor. The jump shots a little you know, shot 134 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: Puddy and he just does a ton for him. He's outstanding. 135 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: On PJ. Haggerty last night, the All American for Kansas 136 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: State I thought he was the MVP of the game 137 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: and just plays with that bull dog mentality. He's gonna 138 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: get assembly haul on their feet so many times. There's 139 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: a McConnell aspect to his game. I think all that 140 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: applies so very impressive last night down there in bloom 141 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: ten eighty six sixty nine for the Hoosiers. Colts back 142 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: to work today, it'll be a walkthrough. We're used to Wednesday, Thursday, 143 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,559 Speaker 1: Friday practice schedule. As you get this late in the season, 144 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: teams do op for some walkthrough. So the Colts will 145 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: do that as they get back to practice. Especially Ashton 146 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: Dulan on injured reserve, so he is going to miss 147 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: four games that hamstring injury. James, I don't want to, 148 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: you know, act like Ashton Doolan is whatever, a top 149 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: five most indispensable player. But you look at Sunday, you're 150 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: what a three point favorite. You look at next Sunday 151 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: at Jacksonville, the Sunday after that at Seattle, and then 152 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: what it's San Francis going on Monday night. I'm willing 153 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,679 Speaker 1: to bet Vegas will have the Colts pegged right around 154 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: this three point spread each of the next four games. 155 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes favored sometimes a little bit of an underdog, like 156 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: that's just how it's going to be. And Doolan, as 157 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: crazy as it might sound to some people, he makes 158 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: a couple of sneaky plays every game that can add 159 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: up to one less first down you have to get 160 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: as an offense, one more first down that your defense 161 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: gets to defend. Like he is that type of guy. 162 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: So him missing a month I do think is notable. 163 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 5: I know you mentioned in a story yesterday on one 164 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 5: of seventy five thefan dot com the hidden yardage, and 165 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 5: he is the king of the hitting yardage because he 166 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 5: will usually force the other team to take a fair 167 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 5: catch so they can't return anything. He will usually have 168 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 5: a great return in his own right on kickoff opportunities, 169 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 5: and like you said, twist army knife, Gal throw him 170 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 5: in there on some offensive plays and like he had 171 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 5: an explosive last week forty eight yard catch up believed 172 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 5: down the sideline. So it will be a hard position 173 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 5: to replace. It's not the worst thing in the world, 174 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 5: but it ain't the best either, So I feel for him. 175 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 5: He I think he missed a couple of games earlier 176 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 5: this year with the chest injury. If I'm mistaken. Kevin 177 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 5: might have been one, I know at least one game 178 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 5: with the chest injury, but he's been pretty durable over 179 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 5: the last couple of years outside of the ACLS here 180 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 5: a couple of years ago. So I feel for him, 181 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 5: But I do think this is what you kind of 182 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 5: bolster your roster for. I feel a little bit better 183 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 5: about the opportunity for George Odom. He's been here, he's 184 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 5: been a great special teams player for you, so you 185 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 5: have options. 186 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, man, that's a tough one. We'll get to 187 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: who the cults have brought up to their fifty three 188 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: man roster. A familiar name here coming up. Oh, that's 189 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: spill the Blans And then a little bit Oh did 190 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: you already say it? Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, jose you 191 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: how much I'm paying attention to this turkey hat, I 192 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: should probably open my ears up. 193 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 4: You ask a question about this? 194 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh huh. So you have the turkey on, but 195 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: you also look very dapper this morning. Yeah, so is 196 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: there a reason to Yeah, I mean, on the one 197 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: to ten dressing scale, I'm never at ten to be abundantly. Wait, 198 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: don't talk about my friend like that. I would say 199 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: Wednesdays are the one day I reach like a six. 200 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 4: Is there a reason for that? 201 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: Well, it's probably the busiest in person human interaction day 202 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: I have all week long. That is true. 203 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 4: Our Wednesdays are kind of long, brother, So for. 204 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: Those who don't know, it's the biggest Colts media availability day. 205 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: So it's the most human you know. Usually I see 206 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: jeff Rickard, Mark Dycht and James Boyd and that's it. 207 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: And frankly, I treat you all as about a two 208 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: on the wardrobe scale and about a four on the 209 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: hygiene scale. So after the show today backwise, Yeah, that 210 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: will shower, and yeah, I will try to attempt to 211 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: be a little bit more sanitary. 212 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 4: All right, I can respect it. Should the kids probably 213 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 4: love the hat? Yeah, shout out to Julie Sen, former 214 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 4: sales co worker. 215 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 3: Here. 216 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: We did a show one Wednesday Thanksgiving on the Circle 217 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: and uh wow, yeah she her. I want to say, 218 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: her mother knitted this hat. And really I'm stood the 219 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: test of time. I kind of forget how high it is. 220 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: I'm looking over at the TV picture of the camera 221 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: and I feel like it's like out of the frame 222 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: right now. Really makes me feel like I'm like six 223 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 1: eight sixty nine. That's how I feel whenever day six, seven, six, eight, 224 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: Oh lord boo, throw it tomato at him, please at 225 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: the college football player. 226 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 3: Did I see that? I don't know. 227 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 4: I've tuned that out in my mind. 228 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: We'll get to those rankings here coming up in a 229 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: bit in the Pacers North of the Border tonight. No RJ. 230 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: Barrett for the Raptors. For those who haven't been paying attention, 231 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: the Raptors are very hot. I think it's eight in 232 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: a row, twelve of thirteen, and here we are. We've 233 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: played NBA basketball for a month and the Pacers are 234 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: still looking for their first road win. So we'll see 235 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: if they do that tonight. They are quite the underdog. 236 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: Seven thirty tip a little bit later north of the 237 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: Border tonight, and I want to say this is our 238 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: start of a WTCHR game. I think I was announced 239 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: earlier this week. They've got a few games this year. 240 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: I want to say it's like ten or eleven that'll 241 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: simulcast on WTHR. So if you don't get fan duel 242 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, but you get the local NBC affiliate, 243 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: you can watch the Pacers tonight as they take on 244 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: the Toronto Raptors. A happy Thanksgiving Eve to all safe 245 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: safe safe travels. Thank you for starting your Wednesday morning 246 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: with us. It's Kevin Bow and James Boyd to Mark 247 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,239 Speaker 1: Dyton on ninety three five on A seven five the Fans. 248 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 6: The Morning Checkdown on ninety sweet five and one oh seven. 249 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: Five Fan, Hi, A lot to get to here on 250 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: this morning Checkdown. Let's start in Bloomington last night. Very 251 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: impressive from Darren Devrees and company, eighty six to sixty 252 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: nine over Kansas State. I was curious the line continue 253 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: to climb throughout the day. I think it to finish 254 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: at like ten and a half. I was like a 255 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: big number of how Kansas State has played this season, 256 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: but clearly Vegas knew what was going on there. Indiana 257 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: that builds a huge lead from behind the early Kansas 258 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: City gets back in the game, and then it started 259 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: the second half once again, the Hoosiers build another big 260 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: lead and that was primarily honestly through driving it a 261 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: little bit more. The two point game, I thought, great 262 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: minutes from a ton of guys, but Trent Sisley, the 263 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: freshman from down there in southern Indiana, some really really 264 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: quality minutes and James the fact that Tucker Devrees, the 265 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: leading scorer for Indiana. His first bucket of the game 266 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: came five minutes in the second half, and you're up seventeen. 267 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: I think another positive signs Indiana balancing out their scoring. 268 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 5: Yes, and additionally, what I liked defensively was them being 269 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 5: able to make it hard on PJ. Haggerty because this 270 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 5: is the guy who's coming into that game averaging over 271 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 5: twenty points per game, well over twenty five, and he 272 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 5: was held sixteen. 273 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: So that was clearly a top the scouting report. Swish 274 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: it up, Mark Dyton, Thank you there the manual. 275 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: I think our seasoning on Thanksgiving break early too, because 276 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: we're having some issues today. 277 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: So that's fun. Can we get a manual one from me? 278 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: Sh very nice? Remember that from a couple weeks back. 279 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: Pacers North of the Border. Tonight they are a nine 280 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: and a half I think point underdog. They've got the 281 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: Toronto Raptors, James. This is maybe the surprise team in 282 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: the NBA this season. 283 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 5: Yes, I can't believe that they're actually good because I 284 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 5: remember the Raptors when they traded Pascal Siakam because they 285 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 5: had to rebuild. But they have the addition of Brandon Ingram. 286 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 5: He's been playing good basketball, so this will not be 287 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 5: an easy task at all for the Pacers, So no RJ. 288 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: Barrett for them. Scottie Barnes, of course, has been you know, 289 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: very good in his young NBA career here. So eight 290 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: straight wins to the Raptors, I think it's twelve to 291 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: thirteen A reminders seven point thirty tip tonight as the 292 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: Pacers look for their first road win here of the season. 293 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: They'll be at home much more manageable starting this weekend. 294 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: You'll get the Tree Light Game on Friday against the Wizards, 295 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 1: and then the Bowls on Saturday, back to backsh As 296 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: we transition here to college football. The rankings out last 297 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: night nothing too out of the ordinary, certainly from the 298 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: top ten or so. You did see the Miami Hurricanes 299 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: start to climb up. I know a lot of chatter 300 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: about Notre Dame versus Miami. The committee said last night 301 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: they are now grouped together, but they still feel like 302 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: Notre Dame's overall body of work superseeds where Miami is at, 303 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: so no surprise with that. So the path if the 304 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: playoffs started today, Indiana would take on the winner of 305 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: Old Miss Alabama in a neutral quarterfinal game maybe, and 306 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: then if the Seeds held, it would be A and 307 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: M in Ohio State. For Notre Dame they would be 308 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: the nine seed at Oklahoma in round one. If those 309 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: Seeds held the rest of the way, it would be 310 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: Ohio State on a neutral field, and then Georgia and Indiana. 311 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: So basically Friday night for the Bucket. IU wins that game, 312 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: they will get a bye because don't do they not 313 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: really factor in conference championship games? Isn't that the rule? 314 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 4: They shouldn't. 315 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: You shouldn't be punished for playing a conference championship game 316 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: when other teams. Should You rest players in your conference 317 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: championship game? 318 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 5: Then, I think in a vacuum, yes, but in real 319 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 5: life no, because you're teaching guys to go out there 320 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 5: and play to play to win, and you're trying. You 321 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 5: know how it is like when we talk to Shane's tyking, 322 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 5: it's always win your division. Didn't try to win the conference, 323 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 5: you know obviously win the super Bowl. So your first 324 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 5: championship opportunity is the big team championship, and for a 325 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 5: program like Indiana, you certainly can't. I don't think you 326 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 5: shouldarrest anybody because HOWU cares, but Ohio State doesn't care. 327 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 5: Next Saturday night as well, you're telling me if you're 328 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 5: looking at resumes of what they've done recently. Sure, one 329 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 5: teams won the national championship. The other team is just 330 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 5: trying to get there. But I don't think either team's 331 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 5: arrest anybody. Football players, you get paid to play football, 332 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 5: show up and play. 333 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: And literally, when you said about college football, you're actually. 334 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 3: I'm dead serious. 335 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, the one hundred and twenty eighth medium between Indiana 336 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: and Purdue coming up Friday nights on the Great Iron, 337 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: twenty eight and a half. I don't know if you've 338 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: seen that line change at all. Mark reminder of seven 339 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: thirty for that one in West Lafayette. Other items of note, 340 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: a great Thanksgiving slate coming up tomorrow. 341 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 3: Mark. 342 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: Your favorite of the three games is what for the NFL? 343 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: Well, first one right out of gate, Packers Lions. That's 344 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: the sexiest one right there for me. Jordan Love hasn't 345 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: been looking very good. The Lions seem to have been 346 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: missing Ben Johnson a little bit, but the NFC North 347 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 2: is still very much up for grabs, So that is 348 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: that is the one I'm most interested. 349 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: In Chiefs Cowboys to follow, and then we'll see if 350 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow indeed makes his NFL or I should say 351 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: his re Who is Troe Burrow? Guy? Is he any good? 352 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: Three and eight? Is that what the Bengals are? 353 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 4: Yes, they are. They got to win out based on 354 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 4: trying to get into the playoffs. 355 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: The Ravens who now lead the AFC North, and this 356 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: weekend the Issa State Football finals, the odd classes on Friday, 357 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: the even on Saturday. Grey Ragshaw will join us a 358 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: little bit later in the show. James, do you have 359 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: a storyline or a team that you're particularly interested in 360 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: coming up here this weekend? 361 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,239 Speaker 5: I think for me, I'm always looking at the big 362 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 5: schools because that is the biggest attention. And I think 363 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 5: anytime you have a chance to go back to back 364 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 5: years winning a state championship without dropping a game, that 365 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 5: is remarkable. I'd like to know the last team they 366 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 5: did that. I'm sure it's not that long ago. They 367 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 5: got some rich history here when it comes to football 368 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 5: in this state and some of the powerhouses we've seen. 369 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 5: And then when you're looking at with Brownsburg unfeed you 370 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 5: last year they were yes, they went under last year. 371 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 3: Another one. 372 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, pre match of last year Brownsburg Westfield six A 373 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: five A, Maryville newpal yea four. A's a rematch from 374 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: week one or on Collie beat Dwanger three nothing. You 375 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: brought up Cascade earlier, Yes, in their first ever appearance 376 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: coming up, and that is the three A matchup with 377 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: Lures who shut down Miles McLoughlin and the semi state round, 378 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: holding him to less than one hundred yards. Will continue 379 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: to talk about that throughout. 380 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 5: And shout out to my region teams Baby and Rana 381 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 5: and Maryville. Let's get some hardware. 382 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: Maryville. I saw that that they were like zero to 383 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: ten in their last tens of my state appearance. I'm 384 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: not surprised at all. 385 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 5: Honestly, they're They're the most talented team I feel like 386 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 5: in the northern part of the state or in the 387 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 5: region at least. But they would always get to that 388 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 5: part of the season and their undisciplined nature would always 389 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 5: bite them the pirates right, Yes, and they would you know, 390 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 5: rob themselves of opportunities to get to the stay final 391 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 5: with penalties and boneheaded decisions. 392 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 4: But yeah, they finally broke. 393 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 3: Through all right. 394 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: Coming up next to who difficult to bring up in 395 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: their practice squad, a familiar name fill in the spot 396 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: of Ashton Doolan and also the old te word. Yes, tank, 397 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: is that something the Pacers should entertain? We'll chat about 398 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,479 Speaker 1: that on the other side. This is the FANOMRNI show here, 399 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving Eve, Thanks for spending that with us. They's 400 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: amazing day. 401 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 6: Brain, you were listening to a fan morning show sports 402 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 6: Radio ninety three five and one. 403 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: I had no idea that Macy's Day parade had a 404 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: lyric that was that green Day. It's green Day. Yeah, unbelievable. 405 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 4: Would you ever do that? 406 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: I no, I mean I get exposed quick. I got 407 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: no coordination. What the hell would I be in the 408 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: parade for? 409 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 4: Not like just going to watch it? 410 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 5: Because my mom is always like, oh, I would love 411 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 5: to see no chance the Macy's Day parade. 412 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 4: I would love to see the ball drop. 413 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: Like a hug al Roker and you know, yeah, do that, 414 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: And that's what my. 415 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 4: Mom would do. 416 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: I got my uncle Ashley wants to do New Year's 417 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: a time scraare no chance? 418 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just feel like, yes, I feel like like 419 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 4: you're gonna walk two steps to bump into somebody. 420 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: My aunt uncle lived just north of New York City. 421 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: My uncle works downtown. My aunt did the New Year's 422 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: eve Ball drop one year and she just said it 423 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: was horrific. 424 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm very much like, oh, this is really cool 425 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 4: to watch on TV. 426 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 427 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: Actually, do we have local people in the Macon's Day Parade? 428 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: I feel like Mark, I feel like I see the 429 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: Avon band in it every year. They might be there. 430 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 3: I don't know. 431 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm always impressed by the bands that just travel 432 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 2: from all over the place, Like we're in Chicago, went 433 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: to the the Michigan's Avenue Parade lights over the weekend 434 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 2: and it was like an Alabama band and everything like them, 435 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 2: Like what are you doing here? 436 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 4: Like how do you get the call for that? That's 437 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 4: so always blows my mind. 438 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: Seems like quite the ordeal, to be honest with you, 439 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: to travel all that way, James, you mentioned earlier in 440 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: the show Ashton Doolan out a month, it will be 441 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: George Odom getting the call up from the practice squad. 442 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: That is a former cult signed by the team last week, 443 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: thirty two year old. I don't think he'll do all 444 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: the Dulan duties. No, No, I think the return duties 445 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: that Dulan occasionally occupies. You know, you've got Anthony Gould. 446 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: You've got a mirror Abdullah that can do that. One 447 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: thing I did want to mention just with this Ashton 448 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: dooland news of him going on injured reserve for four weeks, James, 449 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: you can't afford an injury right now to number eleven 450 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: and number fourteen. You know, we haven't really talked about 451 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: this much, but Alec Pierce has had a concussion or two. 452 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: But Michael Pittman Junior and Alec Pierce have been incredibly 453 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: durable throughout their NFL careers. Knock on some wood there, 454 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: but with the trade of ad Mitchell, I say that 455 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: in all seriousness. And now Ashton Dolan going on injured 456 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: reserve for a month, like Lakwan Treadwell, I guess would 457 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: be next man up if you need an outside wide out. 458 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: So just something to keep in mind. I know the 459 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: dueling offensive duties aren't necessarily immense and quantity each week. 460 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: I still think they view him in a nice light 461 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: and he provides a great trustworthy option when you do 462 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: need to give those guys a little bit of a 463 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: breather there. But just something to point out if the 464 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: Colts were practicing today, would you expect Daniel Jones to 465 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: be full. That's a good. 466 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 4: Question because Shane told me there are no limitations. 467 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 5: But I would probably lean towards maybe not because of 468 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 5: the way his gate kind of looked later in the 469 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 5: game as the game wore on. And this is not 470 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 5: to say, oh my gosh, he was so limited against 471 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 5: the Chiefs that's why he lost. No, that's not why 472 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 5: they lost. But I think it's worth noting, and I 473 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 5: think it was certainly something that we can't overlook Kevin. 474 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 5: So I'll be very curious to see what the estimated 475 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 5: injury report says later this afternoon. 476 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again we see quarterbacks miss a Wednesday practice. 477 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: It seems like that that wouldn't like freak me out 478 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: or anything. 479 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 5: No, I would have to get to Thursday Friday for 480 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 5: me to be like, oh wait, wait a second, what's 481 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 5: going on here? 482 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: No, but just something Again, the Colts have a walk 483 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: through today and for Houston still need clearance, full clearance 484 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: for CJ. Stroud with concussion protocols. That'll be something just 485 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: to monitor the rest that we get the expectation of 486 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: Stroud will clear that, but just something to keep an 487 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 1: eye on here. It's the number one scoring offense in Indie, 488 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: of course, versus the number two scoring defense that would 489 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: be Houston. And it's the number two yardage offense the 490 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: Colts versus the number one yardage defense. So this is 491 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: good on good when the Colts have the ball coming 492 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: up on Sunday, great on great. You can make the. 493 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 3: Argument for sure. 494 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 5: I think Danil Hunter is somebody you gotta keep itn 495 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 5: eye on, same as Will Anderson. And this will be 496 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 5: a big test for the Colts because looking at some 497 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 5: of the numbers, and I put a story out this 498 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 5: morning basically saying the Colts at this present moment need 499 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 5: to look long and hard at the franchise tag when 500 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 5: it comes to Daniel Jones, because the. 501 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 4: Blitz numbers early in the season were great. 502 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 5: I mean, he was top five against the blitz and 503 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 5: look at all the advanced stats and data, he was 504 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 5: argably one of the best quarterbacks in the league. 505 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 4: Now he is mediocre to being. 506 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 5: One of the worst quarterbacks in the league when it 507 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 5: comes to diagnosing blitzes and kind of beating blitzes. So 508 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 5: all that in mind, Houston I think will bring the 509 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 5: blitz there middle of the pack, I would say in 510 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 5: blitz percentage, which means the volume in which they blitz. 511 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 5: But trust and believe they will bring those wrinkles because 512 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 5: I think teams have kind of seen them blueprint to 513 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 5: beat the Colts, and I look back at it, Kevin do. 514 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 5: The first eight games, the Colts are blitzed at the 515 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 5: third highest rate in the league, and again Daniel was brilliant. 516 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 5: He was great against the blitz. Since then, over the 517 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 5: last three weeks or three games four weeks, since Week nine, 518 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 5: they've still been blitzed the fifth highest rate, but he's 519 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 5: dropped a way down the list when it comes to 520 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 5: efficiency and completion percentage, things of that nature against the blitz. 521 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 7: So I. 522 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 5: Don't necessarily trust if this will be reversed, he'll get 523 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 5: back to that level of play. I always knew he 524 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 5: would kind of come back on the earth. I didn't 525 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 5: think Daniel Jones to be a top five quarterback in 526 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 5: the NFL for the entire season. But the question is, 527 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 5: can you get back to being top ten ish versus 528 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 5: you know, over the last couple of weeks just kind 529 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 5: of be an A yeah. 530 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: I think it's paramount in terms of Sunday you've got 531 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: to stay out of the third and obvious. I know 532 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: that's obvious is good. I'd heard it phrase like that. 533 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: I know it's a little bit kind of like elementary 534 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: to say, but you know, when you let those two dudes, 535 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: Anderson and Hunter get into the Usain Bolt in the 536 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: block situation pre snap, I mean, just watch last Thursday 537 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: night against Buffalo, and you know, because then Shane sickens 538 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: Gott decisions to make. Are you leaving Tyler Warren into Chip, 539 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor into Chip? You know how many guys are 540 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: deployed out on a route tree for Daniel Jones. But 541 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: if you can win a little bit more in second 542 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: and seven, Oh, second and seven turns into third and four, 543 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: then maybe you don't let those guys pin their ears 544 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: back because I really think for the Colts to lose, 545 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: Anderson Junior and or Hunter will have to have a 546 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: wrecking moment like a like a strip sack, set up 547 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: a score take away like that type TJ. Watt against 548 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: the Colts type of play. I really feel good about 549 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: the Colts in this game and less something like that 550 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: does occur, which again, they're totally capable of them. Right now, 551 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: they rank third and fourth in the league in sacks. 552 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: I mean that's individually those two and in this three 553 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: game win streak with Davis Mills as a starter, they've 554 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: especially been outstanding. Now, one thing I think is definitely 555 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: optimistic if you are, you know, looking at it from 556 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: a Colt side of it. I mean, the Colts have 557 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: been outstanding at home this year. Their numbers at home 558 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: are i would say, noticeably better than they are on 559 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: the road, and maybe some of that is due two opponents, 560 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 1: but still, I mean, you face Denver at home. If 561 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: you look at just their point totals at home, James 562 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: forty thirty eight, thirty three, thirty one, thirty one, and 563 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: twenty nine and that was Denver. I mean, that is 564 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: every single game above twenty nine, and one of that 565 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,479 Speaker 1: you know includes Denver there. I mean, no matter how 566 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: you look at it, yards per Carrey, yards per tent, passing, touchdowns, interceptions, 567 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: they have been a much better team at home this year. 568 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: And obviously it's the first home game in a month. 569 00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 570 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 5: It was funny talking to Colts defensive coordinator lou and 571 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 5: Arumo yesterday and he said he was in a meeting 572 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 5: and he was like, dude, I haven't been at home. 573 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 5: Feels like we have been home in a month, and 574 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 5: he looked at the calendar it has been a month. 575 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 5: But to me, this is a huge opportunity to kind 576 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 5: of write the ship of your season and show that 577 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 5: you do have the medal. And I don't mean metal 578 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 5: as in like iron the M E T T L 579 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 5: E Metal two. 580 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: Shane Stiking just comes out of the metal crow bar 581 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: out of the tunnel. 582 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 4: I mean that would help. 583 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 5: I think I don't know if it be legal as 584 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 5: far as the games will go, but I think this 585 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 5: is a chance to flex your metal and show that 586 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 5: you can win some of these bigger games. Because the 587 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 5: question we have always had with the Colts in years 588 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 5: past is, and I would say throughout the Shane Stykeen era, 589 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 5: is how many games have you once you weren't supposed to? 590 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 5: And I think this year you've proven that to a 591 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 5: degree because you started so well and you knocked off 592 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 5: a lot of good opponents, and even the three losses 593 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 5: this year or not, you're not losing it like nobodies. 594 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 5: You haven't had a true I don't think Stinker, you 595 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 5: know outside of Pittsburgh. But with that in mind, can 596 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 5: you keep this from snowballing. You've lost two of the 597 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 5: last three, three to the last four. Going into another 598 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 5: division game sounds a lot different than winning this game. 599 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 4: Getting back on track. 600 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 5: I'm not saying anything that's like out of the ordinator, 601 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 5: anything that's extraordinary or you know, genius here, but this 602 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 5: is I think a chance to kind of stop the 603 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 5: bleeding a little bit. 604 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 4: It's like a scoring run in the NBA. 605 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know again, you don't want it snowball. You 606 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: don't want it to avalanche, you know. Yeah, are you 607 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: taking the rick car a lot of time out? Yeah, 608 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: because I do. 609 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 5: Think this can slip into your psyche a little bit 610 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 5: where if you get another closed game and you will 611 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 5: under that pressure again, you're going to be questioning. I 612 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 5: don't care what anybody says. It's confidence you are as 613 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 5: an athlete. You're going to have that human nature feeling 614 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 5: of wait a second, are we good enough? 615 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 7: Well? 616 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: And then you got two straight on the road after that, exactly, 617 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: and against two teams right now they're in the playoffs 618 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville in Seattle. So yeah, you know, we talked 619 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: about this. I forget if I think it was yesterday, James, 620 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: because I think you were back in studio with us. 621 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: The biggest game of the psych And era was obviously 622 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: the winning get in game to and the twenty twenty 623 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: three seasons. Yes, but I would call this one one 624 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: of the more heightened urgency games. You know, twenty twenty three, 625 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: you're still in the honeymoon face. It's Shane's first year 626 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: as a head coach. 627 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 4: House money. You got Gardner Minshew in there. He did 628 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 4: in the playoffs. 629 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: No one exect you to do anything in twenty twenty four. 630 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,959 Speaker 1: I never felt like you positioned yourself to have an 631 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: opportunity like maybe you do coming up on Sunday, Whereas 632 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: you mean to tell me when you go to New 633 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: York and you lose to the Giants buy a million, 634 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: That didn't convince you that they were going to do 635 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: something special Debt Year uh, Drew Locke correct, Yes, men 636 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: looked like he was an MVP candidate that day. Speaking 637 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: of New York, would you really like wear the diaper? Like, 638 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: would you wear the adult diaper? 639 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 3: If you did? 640 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: Reasons not to do this. 641 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 4: The New Year's Eve dropped the ball thing. No, I 642 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 4: couldn't do it. That's one of the reasons why why 643 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 4: didn't you feel. 644 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: That, wouldn't you feel the I would argue the one 645 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: or the two. 646 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 3: Certainly the two I. 647 00:29:59,080 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 4: Would definitely think. 648 00:29:59,840 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 8: So. 649 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 4: I mean, I told you all, I was on a flight. 650 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 4: I haven't worn a diaper in a while, just to 651 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 4: be clear, But well. 652 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 5: I told you I was on a flight to Kansas 653 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 5: City and the couple next to me had a young daughter, 654 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 5: and she certainly had, you know, a little potty and 655 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 5: she was telling. 656 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: Everybody jb let me go to the laboratory and James, 657 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: oh no. 658 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 5: She was telling everybody on the plane that she had 659 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 5: to go to the bathroom or or had went to 660 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 5: the bathroom. She needed to get changed. So if she 661 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 5: is feeling that way, you know, all she has to 662 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 5: do is wait for twenty minutes to get off this plane. 663 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 5: How do you feel we got to wait like twenty 664 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 5: hours or whatever however long you're out there. That's probably 665 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 5: too long, but seven hours, because I would think you 666 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 5: have to get there early right to like be down there. 667 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 5: You can't just show up at eleven o'clock hours, yeah, 668 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 5: like buddy, and you can't move when as a guy 669 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 5: who's I mean, we've all probably been in New York. 670 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 5: There is nowhere to use a public restroom in like 671 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 5: the heart of Times Square. That's like one of their rules. 672 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 5: I feel like you can order food, you can do 673 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 5: a lot of things, you can not use their bathrooms. 674 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 3: Uh huh. 675 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: So I would not do the diaper. And to bring 676 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: it back to the colts, they can't be hoping on diapers. 677 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 3: You can't. 678 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: You can't. 679 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 4: You know, ruins the opportunity by poop pooing your home 680 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 4: game away. 681 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm good. Here in the YouTube, chat points out 682 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: the Denver game last year. Yeah, I mean that is 683 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: one that definitely I think ranked up there. I know 684 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: this was just a little bit of a different feel 685 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: to it. This is why maybe some of it's year three, 686 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, when you get a little further into the 687 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: ten year. 688 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 5: I think it's that, Kevin. But I also think that 689 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 5: you have earned the right to have higher expectations. Sure, 690 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 5: last year when we were in Denver and JT dropped 691 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 5: that ball which basically dropped their playoff chances, the key 692 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 5: work there is chances they were still having to win 693 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 5: that game. I think win against the Giants, get some 694 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 5: help from other teams. This is an opportunity where for 695 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 5: the first time it feels like outside that winning in 696 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 5: game in week eighteen and twenty twenty three. 697 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: You get to help yourself. Yeah, and you play from 698 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: ahead in December exactly. 699 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 5: So again, I don't look at it from a scenario 700 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 5: of it's year three. It's more so we got off 701 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 5: to such a great start, We've played such good football overall. Again, 702 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 5: you're still eight and three, that we've earned the rights 703 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 5: of higher expectations. Now you can say I'm being I 704 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 5: don't know, a little disingenuous or unfair, because it's like, oh, wait, 705 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 5: why are you being so hard on them now when 706 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 5: they're eight and. 707 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: Three, Because you've shown me how good you can be. 708 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 4: Hooy blank period. 709 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: Very impressive from Indiana last night down in Bloomington. Matt 710 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: Weaver from PEGUS will join us coming up at nine. 711 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: We'll probably talk a little bit more bucket game football centric, 712 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: but again, Darren Devreese's bunch really really good last night. 713 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: In running Away from Kansas City. I'd say both haves. 714 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: They built some big leads there can't say got back 715 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: in the game a little bit in the first half 716 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: of Indiana built it right back up. 717 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 3: Mark. 718 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: You found this audio in relation to the Pacers and 719 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: the old tea word earlier this week, the t word 720 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: being tank. 721 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:53,239 Speaker 7: M hm. 722 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: You want to set this up a little bit here 723 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: from Zach Klob. 724 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: Zach Lowe and Bill Simmons on The Ringer Podcast discussed 725 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: saying obviously the Pacers horrible start to the season, but 726 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 2: Zach low discussing why in the long run it actually 727 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 2: might be quite beneficial for the Pacers. 728 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 9: This could be the best single season tanking scenario since 729 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 9: the Spurs got Tim Duncan this team coming back, You 730 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 9: mean like a team being able to get a major guy, 731 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 9: a very clearly good team, right that is decimated, takes 732 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 9: a gap year, miraculously gets its own twenty twenty six 733 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 9: pick back in a trade at the twenty twenty five 734 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 9: in the finals. 735 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 3: From yeah, that's the. 736 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: Trade in the finals. 737 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 3: We're together, not knowing that. 738 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 9: Tyre's Halliburn is about to get injured and that whole 739 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 9: season is going to go up and smoke for them, 740 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 9: gets everyone healthy. They're not old, and they're like, well, 741 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 9: just add potentially the number one pick, the number three pick, 742 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 9: the number four pick, a guy who can probably come 743 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 9: in and give them real minutes next year. They're going 744 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 9: to have to solve the center position all that, but like, 745 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 9: if you're going to suffer that kind of blow and 746 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 9: it was horrible, and like it still gets talked about 747 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 9: every time I go out for lunch or drinks or 748 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 9: coffee with anybody. 749 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: That injury and the what if of all that and 750 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: that miraculous playoff run. People wrap their minds around it yet. 751 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,959 Speaker 1: But the Pacers are going to the finals. 752 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 9: Pacers are going to come back sans Miles Turner with 753 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 9: a top five fit. 754 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 4: Bring me Ajdvanza, bring me Darren Peterson. 755 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: Would you have a position or would it strictly be 756 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 1: best player available, best player available? 757 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 5: I think this class is so good at the top 758 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 5: that you just get the top due that you can 759 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 5: pick depending on where you fall in the draft. So 760 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 5: if you're a top three, you just pick whoever's next 761 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 5: on the board and you figure it out from there. 762 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 5: Because I think the beauty of Halliburton is he can 763 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 5: play pretty much with anybody. So as long as you're 764 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 5: not drafting, I don't know a six to two guard 765 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 5: with a top three pick. If the guy is a 766 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 5: wing or forward, go get them. 767 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: You can point to injuries for a lot of the Pacers, 768 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, two and fifteen starter course, I would say 769 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: one of the more wild misevaluations right now with this 770 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: Pacers team that has nothing to do with injury has 771 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: been center. Like when Miles turn exited. Let again, let's 772 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 1: throw out letter grades here as the son of two teachers, 773 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: let's call Miles Turner a B level center in the NBA. 774 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 1: I think the Pacers thought they could patchwork it together 775 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: and get C plus center play. And I'd argue right now, James, 776 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 1: it is the only reason you're not an F is 777 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 1: because the teacher likes you. 778 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna say, is this because one of 779 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 5: those scenarios where you show up every day. 780 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: You show up every day, you might you know, you 781 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: might be the first to pick up trash off the floor. 782 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: You know she's got you know, oh boy, there's just 783 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: something about him that, you know what, I'm not going 784 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: to give him an F Have you ever done that 785 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: as a teacher? No, not to that degree. But I 786 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: do think there is a lay. There is a little 787 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: bit of a if you show me some quality effort 788 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: and care, then if there is a benefit of the 789 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 1: doubt situation, I'm probably gonna give you that more than 790 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: the reverse. I don't know. Maybe I'm lying, maybe I 791 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 1: just said that I did, but I'm not respect. I would. 792 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 5: John Lanner and the YouTube chat respect twenty nineteen national 793 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 5: champ Jay Huff, You cowards. 794 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 3: John. 795 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 4: It ain't twenty nineteen brother, And this is not college basketball. 796 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: I mean, Huff is a nice backup. 797 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 5: So I'm gonna say, can I say this finally? I 798 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 5: thought this since they signed him. So growing up, when 799 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,959 Speaker 5: I played basketball with my cousins in the backyard in Chicago, Romeoville, whatever, 800 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 5: if someone called you Huff, you were trash, you couldn't play. 801 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 5: Who would say this dude is Huff. So whenever I 802 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 5: hear his name, like this is a bad basketball name, 803 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 5: Jay Huff. This is like the Hoper Briockies up in 804 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 5: the region. They're a basketball team, great football nickname being 805 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 5: the Brickies got tackled by a pall of bricks is 806 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 5: what they would always say on the intercom. If you're 807 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 5: playing basketball your nickname is the Brickies is not good. 808 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 5: If your last name is Huff and you're playing basketball, 809 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 5: is not good. No dispect to Jay Huff. Great dude, 810 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 5: you can shoot it, but man, I. 811 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: Just think of the three little pigs. When I hear 812 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: Huff blow your house down. 813 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 2: I haven't heard Huff to describe a bad person in 814 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 2: a long time. That brought me back to like middle school. 815 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 2: I know you've heard it too. 816 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: That's amazing, the suburbs. 817 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 3: Thing or something. 818 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, he's his dude. Is Huff is just like 819 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: the PG tour golfer Adam Shank. 820 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's not a good name. It's not a good 821 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 5: PGR to name just one of the PG. I know, 822 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 5: I know we need to have Jay Huff have the 823 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 5: same success. But to your point, I never thought that 824 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 5: they could replace Miles as easily as perhaps just this 825 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 5: center by committee approach. And it's kind of like the 826 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 5: two quarterbacks you have in the NFL. If you ain't, 827 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 5: if you don't have, what is it? What's the old saying? 828 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 5: If you got two, you got none, If you got three, 829 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 5: you got none. 830 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing for Monday. And if you really want to, 831 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: I mean you are grabbing for the glasshouse full right now. 832 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: If you want to look at the last three games, James, 833 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: you won a game beating Charlotte, I would say Cleveland 834 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: on Friday night. You played pretty good besides the third quarter, 835 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: and then Monday against a healthy Pistons team, you're a 836 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,919 Speaker 1: shot away from overtime. So again, we're probably really trying 837 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: to reach for the optimistic glass half full here. You 838 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: could say that now for those that are in the 839 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: camp of that Zachlow audio sounds like music to my ears. 840 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: And I don't give two bleeps about a competitive losses 841 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 1: because you know there are people out there right now 842 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:26,280 Speaker 1: that are already saying that. For people that are When's losses, 843 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: I don't care. It's all about these mock drafts right now. 844 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: I do think what Jarris Walker showed on Monday that 845 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: is a piece that is important moving forward. Again, can 846 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: he start to string some together? Is he when you 847 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: have the Tyrese Haliburton puzzle back together? Is he a 848 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: part of it? 849 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 3: Now? 850 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's a starting part of it. I 851 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: think that's been clear so far. He doesn't look like 852 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: that type of player for you right right, But is 853 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: he a guy that, you know whatever, can be a 854 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: top seven, top eight guy when the neweration of the 855 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: Pacers is here, so that will continue to be a 856 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 1: storyline for the Pacers. Reminder seven thirty tonight, Mark, will 857 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: you double check that I want to say it is 858 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: WTHR simulcast for the Pacers. I think they had that 859 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: announcement earlier this week. We saw them have a few 860 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: games on WTHR last year. So for those that don't 861 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: have fan duels, just exactly Denari Quinn JJ over on WTHR. 862 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: I want to say, there's eleven such games this year, 863 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: and I want to say tonight is the first of 864 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: the seven thirty tip looking for their first road win 865 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: of the year. 866 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 4: Gotta get it done. I have a story about. 867 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: Toronto. 868 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 4: I think I told you all this before. Yes, today's 869 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 4: the first game. 870 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 2: My thank you mark on WHR WLV is that like 871 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 2: the Sister's Day, first four are on WALV. So it's 872 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 2: November twenty sixth tonight, December fifth at Chicago, December eighteenth 873 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 2: against the Knicks, December twentieth at New Orleans, and then 874 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 2: the WTHR games start on Janie sixteenth. 875 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 1: And they did this with a fever. You know a 876 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: few of these games on w ALV. Got a Turkey 877 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: hat man my chin. I look like I got nine 878 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: chins on the old YouTube chat and I tighten. 879 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 4: O gobble gobble over there. 880 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: That's an understatement. 881 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 4: You probably had his like maddened in sweat right now. 882 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got a very high you know. The feathers 883 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: are great. You feel those things up there. I wonder 884 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: how long it's going to make that. I know it's 885 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: quite impressive. There's nothing I could do less than knit. 886 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 1: You imagine if they're like Kevin, you're fired from the 887 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: radio station. You be a knitter. Can you imagine what? Hey, 888 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: but what my art org would look like? 889 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,240 Speaker 4: To feed my niece Nelly, you better get to knitting. 890 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 5: I know that Maddie's gonna be telling you, like, hey, 891 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 5: hold on now, I'm not gonna be the only bread 892 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,240 Speaker 5: winter in his household. 893 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 1: Nelly had three poops in thirteen minutes last night at 894 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: about four am, Like, how is that humanly? 895 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:50,399 Speaker 3: Man? 896 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,720 Speaker 1: A what's y'all feeding a laxatives? How can a human 897 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: that size produce that in such a short amount of time? 898 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 2: Three poops in thirteen that's has Rookie numbers man talk 899 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 2: to me after like a trip to Taco bell or 900 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 2: something on a Saturday night. 901 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 1: Like marked Ikon comparing himself to the two and a half, 902 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: he always said he has not only grown up, so 903 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: you might need the adult diaper permanently. 904 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 2: There's times when I've needed it. Oh man, I've done 905 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 2: those runs to the bathroom before I'm like, please, no 906 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 2: one be in. There have to be a massacre. 907 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: Some one said Nelly's the legend for that respect, respect 908 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: greatness when you see it, Okay, Kevin, Yeah, hey, yeah, 909 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: that's one way too interpret it. We'll talk some Colt 910 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: steven Holder coming up to the other side. Butler's got 911 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: a Friday afternoon game over there at Hinklefield House after 912 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: their impressive we Hey, you want to talk impressive right now? 913 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: You look at the past week, Purdue two non conference 914 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,479 Speaker 1: wins on a neutral floor, Butler two non conference wins 915 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: on a neutral floor. Indiana at home last night, but 916 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: they get a notable win, So State of Indiana some 917 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 1: nice wins here on the resume. Shout out to the 918 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 1: Friday and Irish beating Rutgers yesterday, and you see who 919 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: they drew in the I don't even know what place 920 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: game they call in Vegas. Have you seen this Vegas tournament? 921 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 3: How weird it is? 922 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: I have not, actually, so basically all these teams are 923 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: just doing it to get nil money. That's why they're 924 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: playing in Vegas tournament. No, hardly anyone. 925 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 5: Don't they have another one like a post he's the 926 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 5: term of the crown or something like that. Yeah, this 927 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 5: Isliers era, fucking ball. Yeah, I think it is similar. 928 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 5: So Notre Dame had two games Kansas and Rutgers they 929 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,439 Speaker 5: knew about. But the third game you were to play 930 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 5: wasn't garan what. You didn't know who your opponent was 931 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 5: or who win the game would be played. And you know, 932 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 5: I'm sitting there after the third poop and I'm like, 933 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 5: all right, I can't fall back to sleep. Let me 934 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,720 Speaker 5: scroll see who Notre Dame plays today. They've got Houston 935 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 5: at three thirty today. 936 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, what, how in the world do they get 937 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 1: the number three team in the nation. What are we 938 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: doing here? 939 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 4: Can buckle up? It's time to get playing on Syracuse. 940 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: Football on the hardwood here and see if we can 941 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 1: try and go to in one in Vegas. 942 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 5: I'll tell you what, I'll still take jeremih level on 943 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 5: the hardwood over those what I just saw from that team, 944 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 5: and guess also from Jordan Chewing our YouTube chat mark 945 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 5: just called Kevin's babies poop game huff. 946 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. 947 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 4: Step it up, Nellie, that's like a mad live right there. 948 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 4: That's a great mad lift people from India. 949 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: Is was huff a derogatory you know, playground term? I 950 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: thought it was at Midwest thing. 951 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 2: Maybe it's just an Illinois thing, but I don't remember 952 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 2: people saying that on the basketball court during. 953 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 1: Jo If I got called huff, that would hurt the spirit. 954 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 2: I know, it'll take a lap. You're huff like man 955 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 2: right chest, poor j Huff. We'll talk all other side. 956 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 1: Stephen Holder joins us next all right, eight o'clock here 957 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving Eve. We've got a loaded one for you 958 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: that modiga and join us coming up eight thirty. We'll 959 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: talk some bucket game with Matt Weaver from the EU 960 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,840 Speaker 1: side of it at nine to thirty. One of the 961 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: busiest and frankly all year long, but especially this week. 962 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: The great great Greg Straw we'll join us coming up 963 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: at nine to thirty. But it's a big one inside 964 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: of Lucasoil Stadium on Sunday afternoon to talk more about that. 965 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,280 Speaker 1: Let's head of the palost Stickers Hotline right now from ESPN. 966 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: He is Stephen Holder, Steven. Happy Thanksgiving Eve to you, Yeah. 967 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 3: Same to you guys and shout out to Mark for 968 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 3: the mid career Kanye West right there when he was like, 969 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 3: you know, kind of sort of sort of kind of normal. 970 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: I wish we could go back to that as kind 971 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 1: of I think the description of sort of kind of 972 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,840 Speaker 1: normal had me laughing out loud there, Stephen, Stephen, he. 973 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 3: We were we were starting to see signs. We were 974 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 3: starting to see signs at that stage. 975 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: But go ahead, Stephen, It's funny you use that to 976 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: describe Kanye West, because I feel like, sort of kind 977 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: of I don't know what is up with the Daniel 978 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 1: Jones injury situation. 979 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 4: Is that how you would describe this fibula thing. 980 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's the end of the world, 981 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 3: but I don't think it's nothing. You know, I think 982 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 3: when you look at it's not just that scramble that 983 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 3: we're all talking about where I thought it was very 984 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 3: evident that he was gimpy. That that is not the 985 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones that I have come to know this year, 986 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 3: which is a guy who just leisurely finishes a play. 987 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 3: That if anything, he's been the guy who we have said, hey, hey, 988 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:13,360 Speaker 3: chill out, okay, and here's this guy just sort of 989 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 3: gingerly running out of bounds, you know, within no side 990 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 3: of a defender. That was That was interesting, But it's 991 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 3: more than that. I think you have to ask questions 992 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 3: when you see his accuracy at times, not all the time. 993 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 3: I think in very small instances, you saw him make 994 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 3: some errant throws and we all kind of looked at 995 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 3: each other, like, man, he missed that one. And that's 996 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 3: not something we've been saying about Daniel Jones, right, So again, 997 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 3: I am not attributing that to whatever is going on 998 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 3: with him physically, but I think that allows us to 999 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,759 Speaker 3: have this discourse and raise more questions because those things 1000 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 3: did happen and we don't know enough about the injury. 1001 00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 4: So that's just how it goes to piggyback off of that. 1002 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 5: Steven, I've been kicking this question around basically since we 1003 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 5: left Kansas City the other night. How much should the 1004 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 5: colt be looking at the franchise tag now versus I 1005 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,280 Speaker 5: don't know five weeks ago, when Daniel Jones is playing 1006 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 5: at an all world level. 1007 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,439 Speaker 3: Well, I think that's a fair question or a good question. 1008 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 3: I think I think that he will answer that question 1009 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 3: in the next few weeks. You know, they don't have 1010 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 3: to make the decision now, which is a good thing. However, 1011 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 3: I think that's just the point is that the next 1012 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 3: few weeks are really gonna shape I think how this 1013 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 3: off season goes, whether it is how much they paid 1014 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones, whether it's how they do it. You know, 1015 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 3: you brought the franchise tag, you know, does that come 1016 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 3: into play. I think all of that will get clarified 1017 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 3: here down the stretch. And that's kind of what I 1018 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,320 Speaker 3: wrote about today. I think that's really you know, he 1019 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 3: has to answer the bell. That's basically what this is 1020 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 3: because for all the people, I think there's still been 1021 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 3: some disagreement on Daniel Jones this year, whether it's my 1022 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:14,479 Speaker 3: own colleague, Teddy Bruski, whatever, Right, there's been some there's 1023 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 3: been some sentiment that, like the jury is still out 1024 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 3: and is this just a product of the system, all 1025 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 3: that stuff, right, Okay, Well, the beauty of it is, 1026 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,760 Speaker 3: here is your opportunity go get your team into the playoffs, 1027 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 3: win the division, and set them up for success. That 1028 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 3: is the challenge for Daniel Jones here. And I'm not 1029 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 3: putting it all on him, of course not, that's not 1030 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 3: the job. But he has to step up. There's no 1031 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 3: question about that. And this is going to be a 1032 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 3: test for him, and I think we're going to learn 1033 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 3: a lot about him. 1034 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 1: Steven hold it from ESPN with the seat on the 1035 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:51,320 Speaker 1: Payless Slickers hotline. Steven, if you assigned a letter grade 1036 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,319 Speaker 1: to the Colts defense for the effort Sunday in Kansas City, 1037 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 1: your letter grade it would be what. 1038 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 3: Oh man. I don't think people will agree with me, 1039 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 3: but I would say a B minus. And the reason 1040 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 3: I know that fourth quarter, I know it was painful, 1041 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 3: I get it, but I blame as much the offense 1042 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:18,800 Speaker 3: for that as the defense. I think where I downgrade 1043 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 3: them the most is ultimately, when you have a chance 1044 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 3: to get off the field, you have to pass that test, 1045 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 3: and they did not at times. But I also think 1046 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 3: when you look at how they played throughout that game 1047 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 3: up until the fourth quarter, did you think much of 1048 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 3: the Chiefs offense. 1049 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 6: No? 1050 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 3: And the reason for that is because the defense that 1051 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 3: a hell of a job. So I have a hard 1052 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 3: time just completely ignoring that because of the way they 1053 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 3: played throughout the game. I mean, Mahomes was holding the 1054 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 3: ball and holding the ball, I mean all day long, 1055 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 3: and he wasn't doing that for his health he had 1056 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 3: nowhere to throw it. I just think at the end 1057 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 3: of the day, ninety plus plays is unsustainable. Any defense 1058 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,760 Speaker 3: on the planet is going to look awful after ninety plays. 1059 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 3: That's a game and a half worth of snaps. It 1060 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 3: is what it is, and I think that was a 1061 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 3: bigger factor than we probably are are crediting. 1062 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 1: James kind of had audible reaction when I brought this 1063 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 1: up yesterday. I think Matt Taylor shared this on Colt 1064 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 1: Around Table Live Monday night. But if you look at 1065 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 1: the yardage from Sunday steven, the Colts got out gained 1066 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: by like I want to say, it's right around two forty. 1067 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: That is the most they've been out gained in a 1068 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:39,360 Speaker 1: game since twenty seventeen, which I was Wow, I was 1069 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 1: stunned by, And like you know when you hear now 1070 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 1: that yardage is everything, But I think it is an 1071 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 1: indicator of sometimes how you know in control of the 1072 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,400 Speaker 1: game you are, or how much you know whatever between 1073 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 1: the twenties, maybe you play well. Like I didn't walk 1074 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 1: away from Sunday thinking the Chiefs nearly doubled up the 1075 00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 1: Colts from a dominant standpoint. You know, it just had 1076 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 1: such an odd feel to it in you know, the 1077 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 1: twenty four to forty eight hour after math and kind 1078 00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:05,919 Speaker 1: of how you assess that game. 1079 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,720 Speaker 3: I think, you know, listen, that is an awful stat, 1080 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 3: but it's also a team stat, and I think it 1081 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 3: also speaks to to you know, to that point, I 1082 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,399 Speaker 3: think it speaks to the fact that the offense had 1083 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 3: one of its worst days in terms of yardage. 1084 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a season low, but 1085 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,239 Speaker 1: I think it was season low. Yeah, I think like 1086 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 1: two fifty something. 1087 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Daniel Jones season low, I believe in yardage 1088 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 3: as well. Jonathan Taylor, I think his second or third 1089 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,239 Speaker 3: lowest game in terms of yardage. I mean, you got 1090 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 3: to move the ball, all right, you got to move 1091 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 3: the ball. And I think we we we sometimes. I 1092 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,759 Speaker 3: think since that game have overlooked the fact that they 1093 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 3: had they had the makings of a good opening drive 1094 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 3: to start the game, but short circuit themselves with the penalty, 1095 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 3: which was a theme throughout and the only reason they 1096 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 3: got on the board there was the turnover down by 1097 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 3: Mahomes to the interception to a lot too without that 1098 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 3: which is you know, puts the inside the ten yard line. 1099 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 3: I mean, that game probably is a lot different and 1100 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,320 Speaker 3: and we you know, we we we give the offense 1101 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 3: credit for that, but like, let's be honest, that's a 1102 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 3: lot too, you know, so I think we gotta we 1103 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 3: gotta keep that in mind too. Like the offense, they 1104 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 3: just absolutely did not do their part. I don't really 1105 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:35,719 Speaker 3: think throughout that game they did anything consistently, and ultimately 1106 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 3: that's that's why they were where they were now. The 1107 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 3: defense didn't step up when the time came, but they 1108 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:43,880 Speaker 3: should have never been in that position. 1109 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 5: Again, we're joined by ESPN's Stephen Holder. He covers the Colts. 1110 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 5: Obviously he'd be doing it for quite a while here 1111 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:56,800 Speaker 5: in the city. Steven pivoting to the injury front, we 1112 00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 5: have now found out that Ashon Doulan will be on 1113 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,040 Speaker 5: injury reserve due to a hamstring injury. He is out 1114 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 5: at least four weeks, is not eligible to return at 1115 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 5: the earliest until week seventeen. And I believe that is 1116 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:15,400 Speaker 5: actually a road game against the Jaguars. So all that 1117 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 5: in mind, how much of a loss do you think 1118 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:23,719 Speaker 5: that is considering how much Ashton Dooland does from offense, 1119 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,840 Speaker 5: special teams and even defense at times. 1120 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think the totality of his role 1121 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 3: is very important. And by that I mean when you 1122 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 3: combine everything that he does, Okay, whether it's his role 1123 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,720 Speaker 3: as the fourth receiver, which doesn't sound like much until 1124 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,880 Speaker 3: you actually get a twisted ankle, okay with one of 1125 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,319 Speaker 3: your top receivers, you know, and then what he does 1126 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 3: on special teams, which will never be valued at an 1127 00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 3: adequate level. Right, because we're all the same, we always 1128 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:05,359 Speaker 3: overlook special teams, right. But I think when you add 1129 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,400 Speaker 3: up everything that he contributes, he is one of their 1130 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 3: most important players. I don't think that is an exaggeration. 1131 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 3: So do I think this is gonna hurt? Hell, yes, 1132 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 3: it's gonna hurt. You know. Whether they need to make 1133 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 3: a move at wide receiver, I don't know that they will. 1134 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,439 Speaker 3: I think I think they will lean on treadwell, which 1135 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 3: they have done at times when when they've been down 1136 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 3: a body at that position. But that doesn't mean this 1137 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 3: won't hurt. This is this is gonna be problematic for them. 1138 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 3: I think. 1139 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 1: Can Steven Holder from ESPN Colts say usually would say 1140 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 1: back to practice today, it'll be a walkthrough as they 1141 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 1: get ready for a big one coming up. Sunday about 1142 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 1: a three point favorite over the Houston Texans inside of 1143 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 1: Lucas Soil Stadium. Steven, we will see you in a 1144 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 1: bit and a happy, happy Thanksgiving to you and the family. 1145 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 3: All right, same to you guys, and see you soon. 1146 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 4: What have a question? Are you sell on the line? 1147 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 5: I am all right Thanksgiving favorite meal or favorite side 1148 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,840 Speaker 5: dish at the Thanksgiving table. And then the one you're like, 1149 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,839 Speaker 5: I'm not eating that no matter how good you tell 1150 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 5: me it is. 1151 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:17,720 Speaker 3: Uh, okay, So I don't know why, but I love dressing. 1152 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,400 Speaker 3: Uh and and and and don't for those of you 1153 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 3: out there who are about to come at me with 1154 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:28,799 Speaker 3: some stuffing, no, okay, no, they're not the same. If 1155 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,879 Speaker 3: if you don't know the difference, Google is your friend. 1156 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,960 Speaker 3: Stuffing is like my favorite all time side. I'm sorry. 1157 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 3: Dressing is my all time favorite side if it's done right, 1158 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,440 Speaker 3: like it's got to have you know, got to have 1159 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 3: some meat in there. It's gotta you know, you gotta 1160 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 3: do it right. But if you do it right, yes, 1161 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 3: that is my thing. I can eat a plate of it, 1162 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,800 Speaker 3: which is awful for you, but I can do it. 1163 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,840 Speaker 4: And the one you kick it to the curb. 1164 00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:01,440 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm not saying this is like a regular at 1165 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,520 Speaker 3: my house, but like I can scare me to green beans, 1166 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,479 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't really care about beans. 1167 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 4: Do you sound like my chapel right now? 1168 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,320 Speaker 3: I'm not anti vegetable or anything, but like you know, 1169 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 3: I feel like green beans is the thing I put 1170 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,960 Speaker 3: on the plate where I'm like this, I'm allowed to 1171 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,680 Speaker 3: eat the rest because I'm put the green beans on. 1172 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 1: That's kind of how I do it, all right. AI 1173 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 1: is saying stuffing is a bread mixture cooked inside the 1174 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:28,560 Speaker 1: cavity of a poultry, while dressing is a similar mixture 1175 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,760 Speaker 1: cooked separately in a casserole dish. 1176 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 3: There you go. There's a very key difference, and one 1177 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:41,200 Speaker 3: it's just a tool. The other one is actually like 1178 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,920 Speaker 3: for you to really like legit eat. So that's how 1179 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:44,320 Speaker 3: I see it. 1180 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:45,399 Speaker 8: Stuffing cooks. 1181 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 1: And I didn't realize this stuffing. 1182 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,360 Speaker 3: Then there are even more confused. 1183 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 5: Now I know, I'm going to taller class with Stephen 1184 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 5: Older and Kevin Bowen. 1185 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 1: Some you know, call the Pioneer Woman. Some called Stephen 1186 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,520 Speaker 1: Holder food Network expert here on the payliss slicker sidelines. 1187 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,319 Speaker 3: So listen, listen, let's be quick now, listen, my expertise 1188 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 3: is eating, not cooking. But yeah, right, But but I 1189 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:06,600 Speaker 3: know what I'm talking. 1190 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 1: About consuming better than preparing. Let's make sure we describe 1191 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:12,880 Speaker 1: it correctly. Steven, Thank you man. 1192 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:14,919 Speaker 3: I'll see you guys. 1193 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 1: That's Steven Holder right there on the pay Less Liquors 1194 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 1: hot line. 1195 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:19,239 Speaker 3: Uh. 1196 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 1: Marshmallow sweet potato casserole. Is that a thing for you, guys? 1197 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 4: No, I'm more of a candy yams type of guy. 1198 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 1: But before I reached out earlier, he goes sweet potatoes 1199 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:38,640 Speaker 1: with marshmallows and brown sugar. That does sound good. I'll 1200 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,799 Speaker 1: probably eat that said, it's an absolute must. I can't 1201 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,400 Speaker 1: say I think I've ever I. 1202 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,239 Speaker 2: Think I've seen it, but I've never had it. I've 1203 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,840 Speaker 2: seen it offered. I'm always going to sounds like. 1204 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,480 Speaker 1: Smoking weed, but I didn't participate me. I might smell 1205 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 1: like it. It wasn't me, though. I saw her over there, 1206 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 1: but I didn't say to her. 1207 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:00,160 Speaker 4: She didn't see me. 1208 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:07,080 Speaker 1: Secondhand pot smoking mark. When you ventured back to the 1209 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,759 Speaker 1: hometown on Thanksgiving Eve, would you dabble in a local 1210 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 1: watering hole back in the day, back in my young 1211 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,399 Speaker 1: and young and gun days. Not not anymore. These days. 1212 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 2: It turns into like a high school reunion. You see 1213 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 2: all see the people that didn't move on. Are you're 1214 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 2: still here? 1215 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,880 Speaker 1: It can get a little risk ade depending on how 1216 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,920 Speaker 1: everyone is feeling it. It can I retired from the 1217 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:37,920 Speaker 1: blackout Wednesdays. Oh thank you for Claire Jerseys Tonight JMV 1218 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 1: Live from Brothers in Broad Ripples. Certainly a staple back 1219 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,440 Speaker 1: in the day for myself. Now that I think about it, 1220 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,480 Speaker 1: I'm sweating imagining being in the basement of Kasma. I'm 1221 00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,040 Speaker 1: thinking it was gonna cave in on me, and then 1222 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 1: climbing the steps at Red Room, and then hearing the 1223 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 1: siren at Rock Lobster chills get a little rush there. 1224 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,560 Speaker 1: It chills down my spide. Speaking of broadspeaking of Butler, 1225 00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 1: I've seen I've seen that mound have a beer inside 1226 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,320 Speaker 1: of the Bulldog that we'll join us here coming up 1227 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,400 Speaker 1: at eight thirty, we'll talks a bucket game with Matt Weaver. 1228 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 1: At nine Greg Rakestraw will join us for a busy, 1229 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,720 Speaker 1: busy IHSCA football weekend. And you saw Rake last night 1230 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,080 Speaker 1: raking Pete Smith on the call right of Ben Davison 1231 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:17,919 Speaker 1: fift did I'd. 1232 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,760 Speaker 5: Get a chance to stop Bob because by the time 1233 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 5: I got there, he was already on the call. 1234 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:22,600 Speaker 4: But I did look up been. 1235 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:26,200 Speaker 5: Overalling the little birds perched there at Ben Davis. He 1236 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,000 Speaker 5: was in his seat calling a great game. It was 1237 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,640 Speaker 5: a really good atmosphere four season opener. I enjoyed that one. 1238 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 1: So coylein NNROP was that. I think it was Franklin 1239 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 1: Central Pike. I'm like, dude, guys, just take the night off. 1240 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,640 Speaker 1: He doesn't do that. Those two will live at Lucas 1241 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:42,919 Speaker 1: particularly none Ripple live there. 1242 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:43,720 Speaker 8: Yeah. No. 1243 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 5: Being a high school reporter and I drive down for 1244 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,960 Speaker 5: the region and I have maybe my one, maybe two 1245 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,640 Speaker 5: teams and like the state finals or whatever, and I 1246 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:56,120 Speaker 5: just see that pounding out stories all day long. I'll 1247 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 5: never forget covering the boys basketball state finals. This might 1248 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,120 Speaker 5: have been like I think it was my I had 1249 00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 5: been twenty twenty because it was like the COVID year, 1250 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 5: like Harley any fans, and remember Jayalen Suggs and Gonzaga 1251 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 5: were playing UCLA. 1252 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,720 Speaker 1: Suggs made the shot and jumped on the scores tables. 1253 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,080 Speaker 5: Yes, I want to say that might have been over 1254 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,200 Speaker 5: at Lucas Oil Stadium the same night of the Class 1255 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,800 Speaker 5: four a boys basketball state final at Gamebridge, and when 1256 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 5: Sugs hit the shot, because we were all I was 1257 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 5: done working, but I didn't want to leave get on 1258 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:24,280 Speaker 5: the road for I saw the end of that game. 1259 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:25,760 Speaker 4: Sugs at the shot. 1260 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,959 Speaker 5: We all go to scream, and there's Kyle Nedden ripped 1261 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 5: like respectfully, turn around like, hey, you know, guys got 1262 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,280 Speaker 5: to chill out a little bit because he was on 1263 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 5: a zoom call because thefore a game had gone overtime. 1264 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 5: Some kids talking about how his prize possessed in his 1265 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 5: glorious moments, slipped out of his hands and we're like, 1266 00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 5: oh my god, what happened? 1267 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 4: And here he is pounding out. 1268 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 1: Stories professional and James Boyd the amateur just with his reaction. 1269 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,439 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean that shot was incredible. I will react 1270 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:52,840 Speaker 4: a little bit. 1271 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 1: It was certainly one of the moments in March, even 1272 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,200 Speaker 1: though the crowd a little bit smaller. Final four back 1273 00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,960 Speaker 1: inside of Lucasol's stadium coming up. Speaking of college basketball, 1274 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,880 Speaker 1: very impressive last night in Bloomington. Let's check it down the. 1275 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,320 Speaker 6: Morning checkdown on ninety sweet five and one oh seven 1276 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,320 Speaker 6: five the fan shout. 1277 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Out to Connor Kenny Powers in right, I thought he 1278 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 1: was the MVP last night for the Hoosiers. That man 1279 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,040 Speaker 1: plays with an edge. He will get assembly haul on 1280 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,640 Speaker 1: its feet quite often this season. Might not be the flashiest, 1281 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,480 Speaker 1: might not be the leading scorer, but he's got a 1282 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,160 Speaker 1: little bit of a scrappy mentality to him. He brought 1283 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 1: it last night. Great defense on PJ. 1284 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:31,040 Speaker 3: Haggerty. 1285 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,000 Speaker 1: That's all start there. Indiana holds Kansas State to sixty 1286 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,760 Speaker 1: nine points. They had been one of the higher scoring 1287 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,840 Speaker 1: teams in college basketball this season. Uh and James Boyd 1288 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:42,920 Speaker 1: On a night when Indiana certainly shot a lot of 1289 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,520 Speaker 1: threes early, they didn't need to hit seventeen eighteen to 1290 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 1: threes to win by seventeen points. 1291 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,320 Speaker 5: Very impressive win because the show that you can win 1292 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,920 Speaker 5: in a variety of ways. And so this was the 1293 01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,240 Speaker 5: first I viewed as the first real test for the 1294 01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,240 Speaker 5: IU season, and they passed the fine colors. 1295 01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:00,840 Speaker 1: I thought one of the key things last night it 1296 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,040 Speaker 1: was the second half. You know, they started the game. 1297 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 1: They shot ten threes in the first four minute sequence, 1298 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 1: which is just in a it's twenty to four something 1299 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,640 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, I mean, huge lead. It's unbelievable. Polar 1300 01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,640 Speaker 1: opposite they are from last year's team. But then it 1301 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,560 Speaker 1: started the second half, it was just a lot of two's, 1302 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,520 Speaker 1: a lot of driving more. They got in the bonus 1303 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,680 Speaker 1: a little bit earlier. So again that's key, I think 1304 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,800 Speaker 1: for them to win in different ways, not just be 1305 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 1: the volleyball line three point shooting team you know you're 1306 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,040 Speaker 1: capable of. But of course that can come and go 1307 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 1: a little bit there. So eighty six sixteen nine and 1308 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,120 Speaker 1: Reed Bailey, the transfer from Davidson, had one of his 1309 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,400 Speaker 1: better nights of the year after struggling a little bit 1310 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 1: here in the early going. Indiana Nex Bethune Cookman coming 1311 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:43,360 Speaker 1: up noon on Saturday, you better cook them tonight. Very 1312 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,160 Speaker 1: good on that tonight. North of the border it is Indiana. 1313 01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,800 Speaker 1: Paceer was looking for their first road win of the season. 1314 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:53,200 Speaker 1: Do they get it? No, Toronto's playing gray basketball as 1315 01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:53,560 Speaker 1: of late. 1316 01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,240 Speaker 5: If you would have told me it was the old Toronto, 1317 01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,840 Speaker 5: the one that got rid of Pascal Siakam and was 1318 01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,920 Speaker 5: basically in tank mode, I'd agree. But no, they have 1319 01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 5: kind of figured it out with Brandon Ingram and Scottie 1320 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,280 Speaker 5: Barnes are still doing his dang up there. 1321 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,840 Speaker 1: Scottie Barnes, Brandon Ingram as James mentions no RJ. Barrett tonight, 1322 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,040 Speaker 1: the Raptors have won. I think it's eight in a row, 1323 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,800 Speaker 1: twelve to thirteen. They've been really one of the better 1324 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:18,000 Speaker 1: surprises in the NBA this season. The Pacers are a 1325 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,760 Speaker 1: nine and a half point underdog. We'll be back at home. 1326 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,760 Speaker 1: Wizards and Bowls coming up back to back this weekend. Mark, 1327 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 1: do you have the swooshback or have you just have 1328 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 1: you just been manually swooshing as I kind of preferred 1329 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 1: you just doing it whoosh. So that sounded like a 1330 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 1: playing crash out trying to switch it up. College football 1331 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,040 Speaker 1: playoff rankings from last night. I don't really think there's 1332 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,120 Speaker 1: a whole lot of drama to hit on again. We 1333 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:47,800 Speaker 1: had I think it was the top ten or eleven 1334 01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,400 Speaker 1: teams all one the previous weekend. Things of note, I 1335 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 1: guess on this side of it. Indiana continues to be 1336 01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,200 Speaker 1: the two seed. They would get the winner of Old 1337 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,680 Speaker 1: Miss and Alabama. That would be a neutral quarterfinal game. 1338 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,760 Speaker 1: Notre Dame is the nine seed. They would be at 1339 01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:08,160 Speaker 1: Oklahoma in round one. I will say Miami moved up 1340 01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:12,400 Speaker 1: one spot. The committee chair did mention afterwards that now 1341 01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,680 Speaker 1: Miami's in the same grouping with Notre Dame. Basically how 1342 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 1: they ranked teams as they tend to get groups of 1343 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:22,400 Speaker 1: four or five and then ranked them within that group. 1344 01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,720 Speaker 1: So to spite Miami being in the same group as 1345 01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:28,400 Speaker 1: Notre Dame, they still view Notre Dame's entire resume and 1346 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,320 Speaker 1: I guess a little bit of eye test over what 1347 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:34,320 Speaker 1: happened Week one there in Miami. So that will continue 1348 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,200 Speaker 1: to be a storyline we get. Seems like we do 1349 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,400 Speaker 1: have several notable games coming up this weekend. Georgia Tech 1350 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:43,480 Speaker 1: Georgia could have some significant playoff implications. Miami is at Pittsburgh. 1351 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,440 Speaker 1: That is a game that could have something. But for Indiana, 1352 01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:48,880 Speaker 1: I mean, as long as you just beat Purdue, you're 1353 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,600 Speaker 1: going to be a top four seed no matter what 1354 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:53,760 Speaker 1: happens in the Big Ten title game. I think the 1355 01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:57,240 Speaker 1: committee has told us that file State finally beat Michigan. 1356 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,760 Speaker 1: Think so, yes, But this is it's at Michigan, right, Yeah, Yeah, 1357 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,720 Speaker 1: it's at Michigan. Michigan good, Michigan needs it, yeah, to 1358 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,720 Speaker 1: try and get the playoff. Now are they Is Ohio 1359 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 1: State still in the Big Ten Title game if they lose? 1360 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,080 Speaker 4: I don't know how that works. You would know better 1361 01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 4: than me. 1362 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:19,120 Speaker 1: There's a million scenarios, and I think like even if 1363 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,520 Speaker 1: Ohio State were to lose or Indiana, they would need 1364 01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,680 Speaker 1: like a bunch of things to go also in the 1365 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,080 Speaker 1: same direction for them to miss the game. I could 1366 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 1: have that wrong, but I. 1367 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,920 Speaker 2: Feel like it's usually how previous cult seasons have gone, 1368 01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,560 Speaker 2: where it's playoffs scenarios and the Bengals to tie with 1369 01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,120 Speaker 2: the Ravens need the Chiefs still lose, but only by ten. 1370 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,920 Speaker 1: It's like, what, seriously, four touchdown favorite in the bucket? 1371 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:41,360 Speaker 1: If you had a bet on one or the other, 1372 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:46,840 Speaker 1: who would you take Indiana to cover Perdue to cover Indiana? Yeah, 1373 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,040 Speaker 1: probably Indiana. Signetty's not taking this foot off the road. 1374 01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,000 Speaker 1: Do Purdue kids care about the rivalry? Aren't they? Like 1375 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,000 Speaker 1: eighty guys that are new from last year? I mean, like, 1376 01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:54,680 Speaker 1: I you faked a punt on them in the third 1377 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:59,000 Speaker 1: quarter last year. I mean that's kind of insulting. But yet, 1378 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:00,920 Speaker 1: I mean the only that I feel like his back 1379 01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:02,240 Speaker 1: is Devin Macabie and he's hurt. 1380 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, But at the same time, I guess you got 1381 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,200 Speaker 5: to find something right of your competitor. But that's why 1382 01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 5: if you're a student still on campus. You double dip, 1383 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:13,920 Speaker 5: you do the basketball game and then the football game, 1384 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,920 Speaker 5: and you're having yourself a pretty good Friday probably there 1385 01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:16,120 Speaker 5: you go. 1386 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,080 Speaker 1: Twenty and a half point spread there, fifty four and 1387 01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:21,080 Speaker 1: a half the over and under. 1388 01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:21,520 Speaker 3: All right. 1389 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,800 Speaker 1: Coming up on the other side, we'll chat with the 1390 01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,440 Speaker 1: head coach of the Butler Bulldogs. They've got a Friday 1391 01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:30,640 Speaker 1: afternoon game against a right state over at Hinkle Field House. 1392 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 1: It was an impressive Green Buyer trip for them, wins 1393 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:37,120 Speaker 1: over South Carolina and Virginia on a neutral floor. We'll 1394 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,480 Speaker 1: chat with that Mada coming up next for the Butler Bulldogs. 1395 01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 1: It beat South Carolina on Friday in Virginia on Sunday 1396 01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:45,640 Speaker 1: to talk more about it. He is the head coach 1397 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:49,240 Speaker 1: of the Butler Bulldogs. He is Fad Mada coach. The 1398 01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:50,840 Speaker 1: Green Brier served you well, did it not. 1399 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:53,000 Speaker 3: It was a good trip. 1400 01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:57,040 Speaker 8: I thought that, you know, we played some good basketball 1401 01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:01,280 Speaker 8: down there. Guys really competed, and you know that, like 1402 01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,160 Speaker 8: the week before, coming out of the smview game, sold 1403 01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,960 Speaker 8: things that we did well, sold a lot of things we. 1404 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 7: Had to get better at. 1405 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,880 Speaker 8: And uh, but I like I like the direction that 1406 01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:12,240 Speaker 8: we're hitting in I. 1407 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,400 Speaker 1: Was watching a a little bit behind the scenes video 1408 01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,400 Speaker 1: of you talking to your team after the UVA win, 1409 01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,760 Speaker 1: and you had shared with them a text message you 1410 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,040 Speaker 1: had sent the night before the game for our audience 1411 01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,000 Speaker 1: that might have missed it. Could you share what you 1412 01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,560 Speaker 1: wanted your team to know the night before that UVA game? 1413 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,160 Speaker 8: No, it was just more of the It was pretty 1414 01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,280 Speaker 8: simple of we had to be the team that was 1415 01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,400 Speaker 8: that played harder, that played more together, and we had 1416 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,600 Speaker 8: to be the tougher team in the game. And I 1417 01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:40,640 Speaker 8: thought we did those things. 1418 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,760 Speaker 5: Dad, When you look at again, we've talked about them. 1419 01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,840 Speaker 5: I feel like on a weekly basis here Finley Bizjack, 1420 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,480 Speaker 5: when teams you know, are going to scout him, they're 1421 01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,120 Speaker 5: going to try to take things away from him. How 1422 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:57,040 Speaker 5: have you seen him grow to respond when there's no 1423 01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,080 Speaker 5: hiding as one of your top guys. 1424 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:04,240 Speaker 8: You know what great question I think with Findley because 1425 01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:05,680 Speaker 8: of his you know, he's got he's got a very 1426 01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:10,200 Speaker 8: high basketball IQ, and we've got to move him around 1427 01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:14,680 Speaker 8: and get creative and in ways to create space for him. 1428 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,040 Speaker 8: And you know, probably the thing that that family does 1429 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:22,000 Speaker 8: that goes as unnoticed as anything is he's an unbelievable screener. 1430 01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:26,080 Speaker 8: And when he set screens, it buys him time to 1431 01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:28,960 Speaker 8: to be more open. And you know, it's staying in 1432 01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,040 Speaker 8: the obvious. He's he's really really fast when he has 1433 01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:34,480 Speaker 8: the ball and can get to the get to the rim, 1434 01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,200 Speaker 8: or get to a spot to get a three off 1435 01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,240 Speaker 8: and and uh so I think that you know, the 1436 01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,360 Speaker 8: biggest thing with him is is just being creative and 1437 01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:44,000 Speaker 8: and uh using him different ways throughout the course of 1438 01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:45,200 Speaker 8: the game to free. 1439 01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,640 Speaker 1: Him up that model the Butler head coach on the 1440 01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,520 Speaker 1: Payloss Slickers hotline, I got one more on Filly Busjack. 1441 01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:52,920 Speaker 1: In this day and age of college basketball coach, obviously, 1442 01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,040 Speaker 1: a huge part of it is players staying with your 1443 01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,800 Speaker 1: program and not portaling it up on an annual basis, 1444 01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:01,800 Speaker 1: but also there is an element of you wanting those 1445 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,720 Speaker 1: players to also stay and with Finley and a team 1446 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 1: that had a lot of turnover, particularly from the front 1447 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,520 Speaker 1: line guys, I get some of those eligibility. But you 1448 01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,880 Speaker 1: know what, I guess, was it about wanting him to 1449 01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:17,400 Speaker 1: return as well? Because you know, again from a new 1450 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,120 Speaker 1: faces standpoint, there's a lot of them for you. 1451 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:23,720 Speaker 8: Well, you know, it's it's funny because you know, now, 1452 01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:28,400 Speaker 8: with the high turnover you don't always get to build 1453 01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:32,360 Speaker 8: a great bond with the player. And I think that's 1454 01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,519 Speaker 8: something Finley and I have developed over his time here, 1455 01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:37,519 Speaker 8: is you know, just sort of a trust. I think 1456 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:41,560 Speaker 8: he trusts me. I trust him, and you know, the 1457 01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:45,439 Speaker 8: way you Finley finished the season last year is exactly 1458 01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:48,640 Speaker 8: how he's playing right now. And you know, he understands 1459 01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:52,760 Speaker 8: our system. He understands the coaching that we're doing and 1460 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,479 Speaker 8: what we're trying to do, and that does make a difference, 1461 01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:57,120 Speaker 8: you know. Depend and I we're talking the other day 1462 01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,599 Speaker 8: and he said, you know, the game is the time 1463 01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:01,880 Speaker 8: that I've been here, it's really slowed down. And that's 1464 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,920 Speaker 8: what happens to players, is they mature, they start seeing 1465 01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:08,760 Speaker 8: things at a slower pace as they're developing. And that's 1466 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:12,800 Speaker 8: whatever really and seeing in friendly when he's out there 1467 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:14,360 Speaker 8: on the court, he's doing a great job. 1468 01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:17,679 Speaker 5: To pivot a bit to the rest of your roster. 1469 01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,080 Speaker 5: And it can we have thatab Mada Butler men's basketball 1470 01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,200 Speaker 5: coach joining us here on the Payalos Lookers hotline that 1471 01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,320 Speaker 5: I know as a coach, you're always gonna stretch rebounding, 1472 01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:30,080 Speaker 5: You're able to out rebound Virginia forty three to thirty nine. 1473 01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,479 Speaker 5: And you have a couple of guys stand out on 1474 01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,880 Speaker 5: that front, Drayton Jones season best non rebounds and then 1475 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:39,360 Speaker 5: you have Jamie Kaiser, the Maryland transfer, matching his career 1476 01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,160 Speaker 5: HIG with ten rebounds. So from a great standpoint, what 1477 01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,080 Speaker 5: did you like about that side of it? Because you 1478 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,080 Speaker 5: know how it goes in this game. Sometimes you're not 1479 01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:47,640 Speaker 5: gonna make shots, and so you got to get more 1480 01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,800 Speaker 5: shots in and you get that by getting the rebound. 1481 01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:54,320 Speaker 8: No extra possessions. It's huge. And I'll say this, and 1482 01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,759 Speaker 8: I thought Jamie Kaiser was our MVP down there this weekend. 1483 01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:00,920 Speaker 8: His play was is good. But he had to play 1484 01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:04,560 Speaker 8: against Virginia where he dove on the floor in the 1485 01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,559 Speaker 8: backcourt and literally flipped the ball up and he slid 1486 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:11,400 Speaker 8: out of the screen and fimily went down shot at 1487 01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:14,040 Speaker 8: three and here comes Jamie flying and he tips it in. 1488 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,680 Speaker 8: It was It's one of the top three players I've 1489 01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,120 Speaker 8: ever as a coach seen one of my players do. 1490 01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:23,320 Speaker 8: And uh, you know what, he got three shots off 1491 01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,920 Speaker 8: in the game and had ten rebounds, and you know 1492 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,000 Speaker 8: he at one point during the game he said, hey, 1493 01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,320 Speaker 8: let me guard number two, the little guard that was 1494 01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,680 Speaker 8: hurting us, and did a great job on him. And 1495 01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:35,439 Speaker 8: you know a lot of things that that Jamie did 1496 01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,920 Speaker 8: down there went unnoticed, uh to probably a common fan, 1497 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 8: but myself and our staff and our team, uh, we 1498 01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:43,960 Speaker 8: know what he did down there, and it was great 1499 01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:48,280 Speaker 8: to see. And Drayton, you know, getting nine rebounds. You know, 1500 01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:50,640 Speaker 8: we've said this all along, we've got to have that 1501 01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,439 Speaker 8: from that spot between he and Johan. They they've got 1502 01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,360 Speaker 8: to do a great job rebound the ball for us. 1503 01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, dat model with the here Butler back inside of 1504 01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,680 Speaker 1: Hankle comeing up Friday afternoon. They've got right stayed after 1505 01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:05,400 Speaker 1: their impressive weekend in the Greenbrier. Coach, I don't think 1506 01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:08,040 Speaker 1: we've ever asked you this. You you know, you played 1507 01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,560 Speaker 1: at Butler, but you transferred there after a couple of 1508 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:14,440 Speaker 1: years of Southern Illinois. What what led to you transferring 1509 01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:15,400 Speaker 1: to uh to Butler? 1510 01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,000 Speaker 8: You know, I'll be I was only Southern only for 1511 01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:22,559 Speaker 8: one year, and I wasn't good enough to play there 1512 01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:26,120 Speaker 8: and I knew that, and uh, you know, I wasn't 1513 01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:29,800 Speaker 8: delusional or anything like that. And then Butler offered me 1514 01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:36,280 Speaker 8: the you know, a huge nil package called it called 1515 01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:42,160 Speaker 8: room board and three squares, But no, I think you know, 1516 01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,640 Speaker 8: I just I knew back then Southernois was in the 1517 01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:46,920 Speaker 8: Missouri Valley and it was a it was a you know, 1518 01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:50,000 Speaker 8: a bigger program than Butler was at the time. And 1519 01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:52,960 Speaker 8: I've said this before. It was life changing for me 1520 01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,680 Speaker 8: to get here in smaller school and you know the 1521 01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:59,080 Speaker 8: family oriented nature of the Butler is it was the 1522 01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:00,400 Speaker 8: best move I ever made my life. 1523 01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:00,960 Speaker 7: Was that. 1524 01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,240 Speaker 1: Do you overlap with Barry Callier? 1525 01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:03,479 Speaker 3: Then? 1526 01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,040 Speaker 8: You know Barry was my coach my senior year. I 1527 01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,519 Speaker 8: played a rich Ardan one year and played two years 1528 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,360 Speaker 8: for coach Sex and and then Barry came in my 1529 01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:12,120 Speaker 8: senior year. 1530 01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:14,519 Speaker 1: Got it, got it, And the rest is history. Of course, 1531 01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,000 Speaker 1: the thad Mada and his coaching career have Butler now 1532 01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,160 Speaker 1: back there and again the Bulldogs and I start to 1533 01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,720 Speaker 1: this season a happy Thanksgiving. What's a must on the 1534 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,639 Speaker 1: on the plate of fad Mada coming up tomorrow afternoon? 1535 01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,720 Speaker 8: You know I'm going to green Egg at Turkey and uh, 1536 01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:34,640 Speaker 8: I don't know you guys use the green Egg at all? 1537 01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,800 Speaker 1: Well, it's too intimidating for me, but I you have 1538 01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:39,960 Speaker 1: my full trust in it. What time is the turkey 1539 01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:40,320 Speaker 1: going on? 1540 01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:41,559 Speaker 7: Uh? 1541 01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,120 Speaker 8: You know we practiced them all so it Uh you 1542 01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:48,440 Speaker 8: know a as most of America just to enjoy Thanksgiving 1543 01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,680 Speaker 8: day off will be we'll be in full grind so 1544 01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,519 Speaker 8: whenever we get home from practice and and uh, I'll 1545 01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:56,160 Speaker 8: probably be tomorrow afternoon. Sometimes I thinks we go at 1546 01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:57,040 Speaker 8: eleven am. 1547 01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,920 Speaker 1: Green Egg and the turkey up there at the sound. 1548 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,080 Speaker 1: I was so I would have a full trust in 1549 01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:04,280 Speaker 1: Coach Mona to get. 1550 01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,040 Speaker 3: That done, no doubt. 1551 01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 8: No, I'm looking forward to it. 1552 01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:09,639 Speaker 1: Coach. Happy thanks Giving to you. Congrats on the nice 1553 01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,879 Speaker 1: work at the Greenbrier. And we'll be watching Friday afternoon. 1554 01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:14,759 Speaker 3: All right, guys, thanks. 1555 01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:22,400 Speaker 1: And happy Thanksgiving Eve. Here you might be celebrating a 1556 01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:26,639 Speaker 1: little fling or two tonight for old Black Wednesday here 1557 01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,439 Speaker 1: at your local watering hole. Jamb'll be up at Brothers 1558 01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:32,639 Speaker 1: in Broader pol come up with the three watering hole 1559 01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:36,920 Speaker 1: line is hilarious. Clock today the reason for cooling the 1560 01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:40,880 Speaker 1: gang and celebration. Mark Dyighton, Let's put our hands together. 1561 01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:48,760 Speaker 1: James Boyd, Indiana sportswriter finalist right here. Congratulations about that. 1562 01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:54,840 Speaker 1: The National Sports Media Association announces this James Boyd one 1563 01:13:54,920 --> 01:14:00,240 Speaker 1: of six finalists here in our great state. Sir, congrats, Yes. 1564 01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:01,240 Speaker 3: Thank you. 1565 01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:04,760 Speaker 1: You know it's not my nature to be humble. I'm 1566 01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:08,599 Speaker 1: trying to be in all seriousness. It's an honor. 1567 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:10,000 Speaker 5: I was looking at the names on the list, a 1568 01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,400 Speaker 5: lot of great writers, many that I know very well. 1569 01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,200 Speaker 5: So I got a chance to call my pops and 1570 01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:19,280 Speaker 5: tell him yesterday, and he was like, keep it up, boy, 1571 01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:20,840 Speaker 5: I can't pay for you living. 1572 01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:22,880 Speaker 4: So he's just excited that I'm out of the house. 1573 01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:24,679 Speaker 2: You get to give a speech if you win, because 1574 01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:25,960 Speaker 2: I would like to see, like, this is a list 1575 01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,120 Speaker 2: of all my haters, Like I would. 1576 01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,080 Speaker 1: Like to go to tell you what. I got a 1577 01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,800 Speaker 1: few names that I will certainly remembering throw out there. 1578 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:34,720 Speaker 1: But it'd be like if Sanders would have won the 1579 01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,840 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy. Yes, James Boyd, be like, what. 1580 01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:38,599 Speaker 3: Is your do say? 1581 01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,160 Speaker 5: After the first wings like this is after the first 1582 01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,880 Speaker 5: week of practice. Imagine what a whole off season looks like. 1583 01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:46,160 Speaker 1: Dustin Apirak Dylan Sen from the Journal of the Zette 1584 01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,840 Speaker 1: as Dustin, of course, covering the Pacers here, Dylan up 1585 01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:53,439 Speaker 1: there in Fort Wayne, James, joel A. Ericsson, Stephen Holder, 1586 01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:56,160 Speaker 1: and Zach Austro, Man, it's a great list. A lot 1587 01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,400 Speaker 1: of very very mean we've had on this show. I 1588 01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:00,760 Speaker 1: want to say probably all of them, comp Schriders on 1589 01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:02,759 Speaker 1: that list. James, congrats Man, that's awesome. 1590 01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:03,439 Speaker 4: Appreciate it. 1591 01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, second year in a row getting nominated for any 1592 01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:07,360 Speaker 5: n Sports Right of the Year. 1593 01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,439 Speaker 1: So excited for that. And I think the winner gets 1594 01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:13,840 Speaker 1: announced early next year. So a fan vote should we 1595 01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:14,240 Speaker 1: rig it? 1596 01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:15,360 Speaker 3: You know? 1597 01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:16,920 Speaker 5: If it was a fan vote, I'd win. I feel 1598 01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,240 Speaker 5: like I'm the people's champ out here, but I don't 1599 01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,560 Speaker 5: think that's how it's determined. But either way, just to 1600 01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,720 Speaker 5: be mentioned, be recognized as always cool and you don't 1601 01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,360 Speaker 5: do it for that, but it kind of maybe look 1602 01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:28,519 Speaker 5: back on the year like, wow, I did get a 1603 01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,479 Speaker 5: chance to couple a lot of cool stuff. So shout 1604 01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,640 Speaker 5: out to the State of Indiana. Great editors I have 1605 01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:37,240 Speaker 5: across the NFL, NBA, WNBA sides and all the above. 1606 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,439 Speaker 5: So thank you off for reading too, because I can't 1607 01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:40,320 Speaker 5: do the job if you don't read it. 1608 01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:41,000 Speaker 1: I want you to win. 1609 01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,679 Speaker 2: And just going to like a player haters Silky Johnson rant, 1610 01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:45,200 Speaker 2: I hate you, I hate you. 1611 01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:47,360 Speaker 5: I don't even know you, and I hate you. We 1612 01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:49,200 Speaker 5: got we got Alex lovering in the YouTube chat. He 1613 01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,200 Speaker 5: said in my speech. If I want to have to say, 1614 01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:52,559 Speaker 5: I'd like to like the YouTube chat. 1615 01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,160 Speaker 4: You know what, Alex. If I do win, I'll shout 1616 01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:56,960 Speaker 4: out to YouTube chat. 1617 01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:01,320 Speaker 1: No shock here, but uh finalists in the Sportscaster of 1618 01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:03,960 Speaker 1: the Year won Greg Greg Straw. He'll join us coming 1619 01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,240 Speaker 1: up at nine thirty. We'll talk a little bucket game 1620 01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:09,320 Speaker 1: with Matt Weaver in about ten minutes, Mark, you care 1621 01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,479 Speaker 1: to take a stab at the NFL player that Max 1622 01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,000 Speaker 1: Bowen pulled out of the ornament pile last night that 1623 01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:17,760 Speaker 1: he wanted on the top of the tree. So you know, 1624 01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,519 Speaker 1: emphasis there the hint of the top of the tree. 1625 01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:22,560 Speaker 4: Now this this player? Can I get a hint? Is 1626 01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:23,519 Speaker 4: this player still active? 1627 01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,160 Speaker 1: Well, let's start with you know Christmas here top of 1628 01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:30,280 Speaker 1: the tree is usually reserved for what a star, star, star, 1629 01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:35,320 Speaker 1: an angel, Santa something, kin a star. Well, that already 1630 01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:37,080 Speaker 1: gives me that was not a star that he's trying 1631 01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:37,639 Speaker 1: to put up there. 1632 01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:39,600 Speaker 3: Make it. 1633 01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:41,400 Speaker 4: Fitzpatrick was quite the reach last year. 1634 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,519 Speaker 1: I literally thought Mark was in my living room when 1635 01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,040 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Rosie Ches' spin in this chair 1636 01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:46,320 Speaker 1: we have. 1637 01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:46,760 Speaker 3: In the room. 1638 01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:47,800 Speaker 1: And next thing you know, I hear one of the 1639 01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,280 Speaker 1: ornaments fall off the chair onto the ground and it 1640 01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:53,639 Speaker 1: was a split head of Aaron Rodgers. 1641 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:57,599 Speaker 4: Oh god, that's glorious to hear. 1642 01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,719 Speaker 1: Like Mark might all of a sudden send the stocking 1643 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:02,000 Speaker 1: for Rosie and you know, double what's going to be 1644 01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:05,320 Speaker 1: in there here? This player not active? Although I had 1645 01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:11,800 Speaker 1: a double check it. Steve Smith Senior, Steve Smith, still 1646 01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,400 Speaker 1: you weren't sure if he was still active or not. 1647 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,160 Speaker 1: I had, I had a double check it. I feel 1648 01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:17,759 Speaker 1: like he tried to do like the cup of coffee 1649 01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,400 Speaker 1: that we've seen. He actually went back to his old team, 1650 01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:24,200 Speaker 1: but I don't think. I don't know if we've gotten 1651 01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:25,519 Speaker 1: like official paperwork here. 1652 01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:31,320 Speaker 4: Went to his old team, and he's a star Andrew Luck. 1653 01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:39,040 Speaker 1: A leaping Salvation army jumping in there on Thanksgiving. 1654 01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:44,519 Speaker 5: Oh, Ezekiel, Elliott, Ezekiel, I had that Andrew Luck Starr 1655 01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,439 Speaker 5: going to his former team Stanford, And. 1656 01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:48,360 Speaker 1: Of course the star would be the side of the 1657 01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:52,000 Speaker 1: helmet right there. So she's not a fan of putting 1658 01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,560 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Maxico's daddy, will you lift me up there? And 1659 01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:59,920 Speaker 1: he was allowed to put it just below. So Zeke 1660 01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:01,960 Speaker 1: is on the as high up as you can get 1661 01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:03,240 Speaker 1: without being on the top. 1662 01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:06,880 Speaker 4: So I mean his name is Ezekiel. There's some Christmas 1663 01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:07,639 Speaker 4: tie ins. 1664 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:14,559 Speaker 1: Is or something like that Christmas spirit. 1665 01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:19,879 Speaker 5: So when it comes to decorating the tree, how serious 1666 01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:23,280 Speaker 5: is this in your household? For example, my mom is 1667 01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:27,200 Speaker 5: serious about it, but she doesn't want like the magazine 1668 01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:30,040 Speaker 5: style Christmas tree. That's like, I'm going to coordinate it 1669 01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,439 Speaker 5: with the colors and make it look all professional could 1670 01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:36,440 Speaker 5: be in Macy's. She's like, no, I want the handmade 1671 01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,360 Speaker 5: ornament that you made when you were six, right in 1672 01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:40,240 Speaker 5: the center of this thing. 1673 01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:42,320 Speaker 1: So it's for me, it's like I'm looking back at 1674 01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:45,000 Speaker 1: the history of my life. Yeah, that's that's what ours is, 1675 01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:47,360 Speaker 1: you know. And Maddie, you know, I've always said that 1676 01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:52,639 Speaker 1: she's very respectful of my sports obsession, but the sports 1677 01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,439 Speaker 1: ornaments have definitely taken a backseat. Luckily, Max Boone is 1678 01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,280 Speaker 1: trying to revive that. There's a small tree that we 1679 01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,120 Speaker 1: actually put in the kids room. I believe the ones 1680 01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:03,400 Speaker 1: he picked out were Matt Ryan, I think Peyton Manning. 1681 01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,240 Speaker 1: I want to say one more, I forget which other 1682 01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,880 Speaker 1: NFL player that he picked out Andrew Luck's broken in 1683 01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,880 Speaker 1: like third pieces, like three pieces. I feel bad for 1684 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,080 Speaker 1: him there. So yeah, it is uh yeah yeah, history 1685 01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:19,519 Speaker 1: of you know, our lives, our kids' lives, our own life. Yeah, 1686 01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,519 Speaker 1: I'd say that's probably a good way to describe it. Yeah, 1687 01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:24,160 Speaker 1: h definitely. 1688 01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,679 Speaker 5: Because my mom she will go in that box boy, 1689 01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,479 Speaker 5: and if she don't have about three or four things 1690 01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:31,639 Speaker 5: I made when I was I'll tell you seven. 1691 01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:33,720 Speaker 1: She is very upset. She's gonna have to get a 1692 01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:37,800 Speaker 1: little sports writer of the Year award. That's gonna have 1693 01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:41,000 Speaker 1: to be take the star off Sequiel what it's James 1694 01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:42,320 Speaker 1: Boyd on top of the tree. Yeah. 1695 01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:44,519 Speaker 5: I haven't talked to her about it just yet because 1696 01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:46,120 Speaker 5: I feel like whenever I'm trying to call people, they 1697 01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:47,720 Speaker 5: got different schedules. But I talked to my dad and 1698 01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:49,560 Speaker 5: he's all congrats. Mount say, well, yeah, you know the 1699 01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:51,800 Speaker 5: song you raised, you know, you know I'm the man. 1700 01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:53,760 Speaker 5: He's like, I get off my phone. So I was 1701 01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:55,439 Speaker 5: humble for all of maybe ten seconds. 1702 01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,879 Speaker 1: Coach, you would say, back to Actice on a Wednesday, 1703 01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:05,640 Speaker 1: it'll be a walk through upcoming four today again that 1704 01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:07,880 Speaker 1: Nico Collins matchup on Sunday, I think that will be 1705 01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,519 Speaker 1: another one. Certainly keep an eye on. I know we 1706 01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:12,679 Speaker 1: touched on a little bit on it yesterday. But Nico 1707 01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:16,200 Speaker 1: Collins in the last three games against the Colts, it 1708 01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,800 Speaker 1: is one hundred and seventeen yards, one hundred and ninety 1709 01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,519 Speaker 1: five and one hundred and forty six. He has twenty 1710 01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:27,920 Speaker 1: two catches in twenty six targets against the Colts. Granted 1711 01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:32,280 Speaker 1: the cornerback duos in those games, not necessarily the cornerback 1712 01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:34,439 Speaker 1: due You'll see on Sunday one of those games at Dallas, 1713 01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:39,679 Speaker 1: Flowers and Darryl Baker Junior starting, not sauce Gard Intraverious 1714 01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:44,120 Speaker 1: Ford from the outhouse to the penthouse. You good at 1715 01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:46,400 Speaker 1: the B minus grade. Stephen Holder gave the Colts defense 1716 01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:50,679 Speaker 1: on Sunday, Yes, because they held him to one touchdown. 1717 01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:52,799 Speaker 1: I'm like, if you hold Patrick Mahomes the one touchdown, 1718 01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:54,639 Speaker 1: you gotta win that game. I get that they gave 1719 01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,800 Speaker 1: him a ton of yards, but my goodness, you're facing 1720 01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:00,920 Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback of this generation and had your offense 1721 01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:02,960 Speaker 1: not been completely incompetent, you win that game. 1722 01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:08,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I agree with that, then't mean c Plus, 1723 01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,519 Speaker 2: I feel like anything in the Sea Ranger. You're pushing anyway, 1724 01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:13,280 Speaker 2: So it's like the ying yards for the Chiefs. 1725 01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:16,160 Speaker 1: They no, because the. 1726 01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,439 Speaker 2: Point at the end of the day, the score is 1727 01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,320 Speaker 2: what matters, and they held them off the scoreboard for 1728 01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:23,320 Speaker 2: as much as it was ninety one plays. Yeah, the 1729 01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:24,559 Speaker 2: other end couldn't do anything. 1730 01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:26,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd argue too when you guys say just one 1731 01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:29,880 Speaker 1: touchdown for the Chiefs. You know the Colts scored a 1732 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,400 Speaker 1: touchdown directly off the defense and what laou Latu did 1733 01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:35,599 Speaker 1: early in that game as well, So I think, yeah, 1734 01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:39,880 Speaker 1: it's I think it's a I think it's a difficult argument. Honestly, 1735 01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:42,920 Speaker 1: I think there were some good and some bad. But uh, 1736 01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, when you look at Houston coming up on Sunday, 1737 01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,400 Speaker 1: assuming CJ. Stroud's back in the lineup again, to me, 1738 01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:52,320 Speaker 1: it's just everything revives around Nico Collins and limiting him. 1739 01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:54,920 Speaker 1: I think if you can do that, then I do 1740 01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:56,720 Speaker 1: expect the Colts to get this done. We'll give our picks. 1741 01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:58,000 Speaker 1: It's our last show of the weeks. We'll do that 1742 01:21:58,040 --> 01:21:59,600 Speaker 1: here up coming to the nine o'clock hour. But I 1743 01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,240 Speaker 1: know we'll talk a little IU side of the bucket game. 1744 01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:04,120 Speaker 1: We did produe yesterday the IU side of it with 1745 01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,320 Speaker 1: Matt Weaver from Pegs coming up next. 1746 01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:12,400 Speaker 7: Gobble Gobble Turkey, you know turkeys Gobble gobble gobble. 1747 01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,360 Speaker 1: Turkey from Jive Turkey gobblers. 1748 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:14,560 Speaker 7: You know. 1749 01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:19,880 Speaker 1: All right, final hour of the week for us. Here 1750 01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:22,519 Speaker 1: a reminder we will have your coverage on variety of 1751 01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:26,920 Speaker 1: stations for the Issa State Football Championships this weekend. We'll 1752 01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:31,600 Speaker 1: go odd classes on Friday, We'll go even on Saturday, 1753 01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:35,479 Speaker 1: so that means opposite the Bucket Game Friday night will 1754 01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:38,839 Speaker 1: be the Pirates of Meryville. Correct, James talked about that earlier. 1755 01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:42,320 Speaker 4: Yes, shout out to Brad Cease, the head coach there. 1756 01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,599 Speaker 1: Good dude, they will take on New pal and New 1757 01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:47,360 Speaker 1: pal goes without saying what they have done here recently 1758 01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,599 Speaker 1: with Kyle Ralph and company as they really blew out 1759 01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:53,040 Speaker 1: blooms in South in the summer. Stay around best coaches 1760 01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:56,439 Speaker 1: probably in the state, any sport. Yeah, he is building 1761 01:22:56,600 --> 01:23:01,400 Speaker 1: quite the resume there over in Handc County. And speaking 1762 01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,560 Speaker 1: of the Bucket game to talk more about it, So 1763 01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:05,720 Speaker 1: let's head to the Palot Suckers hot line right now. 1764 01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,519 Speaker 1: A happy Thanksgiving to our next guest. He is Matt 1765 01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:10,840 Speaker 1: Weaver ofpeags dot com. What's up, Matt? 1766 01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,280 Speaker 3: How you doing? Man? Pretty good? 1767 01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:14,120 Speaker 10: Kevin, how are you guys? 1768 01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:16,960 Speaker 1: We are great. It sounded like a health update from 1769 01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,040 Speaker 1: kurtin Signetti was pretty good earlier in the week, right, 1770 01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:21,880 Speaker 1: Sarat Kamara both back in the lineup on Friday night, 1771 01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:23,000 Speaker 1: That's the thought at least. 1772 01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:26,240 Speaker 10: Yeah, and it sounds like, you know, there was a 1773 01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:30,160 Speaker 10: chance for Drew Evans. He said they know more that day. 1774 01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,679 Speaker 10: Obviously we haven't got anything since then, since we haven't 1775 01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:37,679 Speaker 10: had any media availability, But yeah, getting Sarat getting back 1776 01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:44,000 Speaker 10: is definitely huge and and you know, big for their offense. 1777 01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:45,880 Speaker 10: I mean, you know, they've obviously kind of struggled the 1778 01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:47,439 Speaker 10: last couple weeks a little bit, and I think that's 1779 01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,320 Speaker 10: been part of it, not having that go to guy 1780 01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:51,640 Speaker 10: out there. But yeah, getting him back would definitely be 1781 01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,599 Speaker 10: definitely be huge. And then Kamara, I think he played 1782 01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:58,880 Speaker 10: one one possession, one series I'm sorry, in the in 1783 01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:02,479 Speaker 10: the Wisconsin game before he came out. So yeah, obviously 1784 01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:04,160 Speaker 10: two very important pieces for IU. 1785 01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,559 Speaker 5: Matt when you look at what i U is trying 1786 01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,640 Speaker 5: to do, which is finish out the regular season undefeated, 1787 01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:12,840 Speaker 5: how big do you think this game is from the 1788 01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:15,599 Speaker 5: standpoint of we've got our guys kind of back healthy, 1789 01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:17,080 Speaker 5: and we want to make sure we're in a pretty 1790 01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:18,479 Speaker 5: good rhythm atter having a week off. 1791 01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it'll be important. I mean, I do 1792 01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:24,800 Speaker 10: think the biggest thing this, you know, and everybody's beat up. 1793 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,960 Speaker 10: I mean, Indiana is not like the exception here, but 1794 01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,240 Speaker 10: they they kind of limped in the to this bye 1795 01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:33,360 Speaker 10: week and then but this bye week came out a 1796 01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:36,400 Speaker 10: really good time because maybe sputtering is too strong of 1797 01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:39,320 Speaker 10: a word, but they certainly weren't playing at the same 1798 01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:40,680 Speaker 10: level that they had played earlier in the. 1799 01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:41,880 Speaker 3: Season the last few weeks. 1800 01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:43,880 Speaker 10: Now they got the wins, and I mean, when you 1801 01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,760 Speaker 10: beat another Big Ten team by twenty four and you're 1802 01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:49,639 Speaker 10: doing it playing maybe you're you know, c plus game 1803 01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,080 Speaker 10: that that's pretty good. But you know you're gonna have 1804 01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,360 Speaker 10: to play a lot better after this week when you 1805 01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:57,599 Speaker 10: get into the Big Ten Championship and into the College 1806 01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,679 Speaker 10: Football playoff, you know, if you want to make some noise. 1807 01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,000 Speaker 10: So yeah, getting these guys back, I mean, I still 1808 01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,200 Speaker 10: would you know if it was me. You know, hopefully 1809 01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,320 Speaker 10: you can get up big in the second half, and 1810 01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,280 Speaker 10: you can maybe you can kind of you know, not 1811 01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:12,640 Speaker 10: push guys. I mean, you know, serats a hamstring and 1812 01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,519 Speaker 10: it's gonna be cold, and obviously those things can be tricky, 1813 01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:17,880 Speaker 10: so you don't want to you don't want to overdo it, 1814 01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:19,599 Speaker 10: but definitely would like to get him back in there 1815 01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,719 Speaker 10: because he's you know, he isn't played basically like three games, 1816 01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:23,560 Speaker 10: so you'd really like to get him in there and 1817 01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,840 Speaker 10: get that rhythm going back again with Fernando Mendoza because 1818 01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:27,599 Speaker 10: they had it going so good earlier in the year. 1819 01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:30,840 Speaker 10: But yeah, that is important. It's it's tough. You got 1820 01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:33,320 Speaker 10: to balance that, like I said, and balance not overdoing 1821 01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,640 Speaker 10: it so that you're healthy for the following week if 1822 01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:37,679 Speaker 10: you're playing whoever it is a house state most likely, 1823 01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:39,840 Speaker 10: and then you know, a couple of weeks after that 1824 01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:41,040 Speaker 10: when you get into the playoffs. 1825 01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,320 Speaker 1: Okay, well let's get into a little bit more of that. 1826 01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:45,360 Speaker 1: Matt Weaver piags dot Com. So the year on the 1827 01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:48,320 Speaker 1: Payloffs Sickers Hotline. It's rather absurd that you know this 1828 01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:51,280 Speaker 1: is even a conversation, But in the dis day and 1829 01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:54,599 Speaker 1: age in college football, Matt, there is a little bit 1830 01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,840 Speaker 1: of a question on what exactly these conference championships mean Now, 1831 01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:01,519 Speaker 1: historically it goes out saying what it would mean for 1832 01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:05,439 Speaker 1: Indiana to win a Big Ten football championship, But let's 1833 01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:08,599 Speaker 1: just talk in the twenty twenty five winning it would 1834 01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:10,720 Speaker 1: do what you know, I guess you would get the 1835 01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,280 Speaker 1: one seed, you get the first choice of a neutral 1836 01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:17,320 Speaker 1: site game. Am I missing anything else on what winning 1837 01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:19,599 Speaker 1: it would mean? Obviously we saw last year Ohio State 1838 01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:21,120 Speaker 1: didn't even make it and won at all. 1839 01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,000 Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm not really sure. I think it's more you 1840 01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:28,240 Speaker 10: get a trophy, I guess, and you get to say 1841 01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:29,160 Speaker 10: you're the Big Ten champs. 1842 01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:29,439 Speaker 7: I think. 1843 01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,840 Speaker 10: I think whoever wins that game would get I think 1844 01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,120 Speaker 10: they're slotted to the Rose Bowl, because that's kind of 1845 01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:35,479 Speaker 10: the big thing. 1846 01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:37,280 Speaker 1: No matter what, you go to the Rose Bowl. 1847 01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,840 Speaker 10: I think I think so, And for me personally, I 1848 01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:43,320 Speaker 10: actually don't want to. I'd rayther go somewhere where it's 1849 01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:45,240 Speaker 10: not as far as a flight and travels a little 1850 01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:48,080 Speaker 10: bit easier. But that's me being selfish. 1851 01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:53,160 Speaker 1: But all it's Dallas? Is it Dallas, Atlanta, Miami or 1852 01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:54,200 Speaker 1: the Rose Bull Is that right? 1853 01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:54,479 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1854 01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:54,960 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1855 01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:57,080 Speaker 10: And I would My guess is this is just me guessing. 1856 01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,320 Speaker 10: But like the s top SEC teams I would think 1857 01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:00,120 Speaker 10: it's probably gonna get it. 1858 01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:01,479 Speaker 3: It's not at Lane. 1859 01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:05,000 Speaker 10: I think it's New Orleans, Miami, Dallas, and the Rose Bowl. 1860 01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:06,920 Speaker 10: So I would think they probably get the Sugar Bowl. 1861 01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:11,680 Speaker 10: That's more of an SEC game. Yeah, ye right, yeah historically, 1862 01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:13,800 Speaker 10: so I would think, and then Miami. I'm not I 1863 01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:15,840 Speaker 10: you know, so I guess it'd be maybe Miami or 1864 01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,200 Speaker 10: Dallas if you lose, you know, if you lose that 1865 01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,280 Speaker 10: Big Ten championship. But I'm not really sure what it does. 1866 01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:23,080 Speaker 10: I saw Rich Eiden kind of going off about this 1867 01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,559 Speaker 10: about like you're gonna you know, you're gonna kill an 1868 01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:29,560 Speaker 10: undefeated season for one of your teams the Big Ten is, 1869 01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:30,920 Speaker 10: and I mean, I kind of see his point, but 1870 01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:33,120 Speaker 10: I don't know. I mean, I think it's, you know, 1871 01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:34,920 Speaker 10: you're gonna make money, You're gonna sell a bunch of tickets. 1872 01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:36,960 Speaker 10: You're gonna fill up Lucas Oil because if ahow States there, 1873 01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,560 Speaker 10: it's gonna be packed and be packed probably no matter what, 1874 01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:42,479 Speaker 10: but definitely if they're there. So, you know, I don't 1875 01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:44,320 Speaker 10: know what it does for you that the committee's always 1876 01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,080 Speaker 10: said that they don't put a ton of stock into it. 1877 01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:49,240 Speaker 10: So I think even if Indiana loses unless they just 1878 01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:51,439 Speaker 10: get absolutely dog walked. I think they stay in the 1879 01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,320 Speaker 10: top four and they still get a buye. So I 1880 01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:57,920 Speaker 10: I mean, other than getting post potentially getting guys hurt, 1881 01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:00,879 Speaker 10: I'm not sure where there's a whole lot of benefit 1882 01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:04,599 Speaker 10: for you, you know, in playing this game. And here's 1883 01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:05,840 Speaker 10: the other thing. This is a weird thing to say, 1884 01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:07,559 Speaker 10: but it's hard to be the team twice in one year. 1885 01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:09,200 Speaker 10: So let's just say you going there and you beat 1886 01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:10,680 Speaker 10: Oha State if you meet him. I mean, I just 1887 01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,080 Speaker 10: think it's tough. I think it's really tough to beat 1888 01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:14,920 Speaker 10: the team twice in one year. That's why I like 1889 01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:16,559 Speaker 10: in the second if any I gets to buy, I'd 1890 01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:19,000 Speaker 10: rather not. If I'm Indiana'd rather not play Oregon, the 1891 01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:21,120 Speaker 10: number one team, I'd rather not play, and Ken is 1892 01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:23,240 Speaker 10: a Notre Dame because Notre Dame is playing fantastic right 1893 01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:26,280 Speaker 10: now and Jeremiah Love is a freaking beast, So I 1894 01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:28,000 Speaker 10: don't want to play Notre Dame in that in that 1895 01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:30,320 Speaker 10: quarterfinal round. If I'm if I'm a team, I think 1896 01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:32,840 Speaker 10: they're an absolute dangerous team. But I think it's tough 1897 01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:34,559 Speaker 10: to play a team beat him twice in one year. 1898 01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:36,120 Speaker 10: So it's just weird if you have to play off 1899 01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:39,479 Speaker 10: state and you're playing post potentially what a month later 1900 01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:41,720 Speaker 10: and possibly the national championship game. 1901 01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:46,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just some odd conversations regarding conference championships. I 1902 01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, just hearing you discuss it all, I'm like 1903 01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:51,519 Speaker 1: nodding my head. But then I'm like, man, give it 1904 01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:53,960 Speaker 1: the history of the Indiana football program. You know, accomplishing 1905 01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,600 Speaker 1: a Big Ten championship would obviously be something incredible. All right, 1906 01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:01,840 Speaker 1: let's shift gears individually. Fernando mendo It still appears to 1907 01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,320 Speaker 1: be the favorite for the Heisman Trophy you mentioned love. 1908 01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:06,599 Speaker 1: You know, his name is obviously grown a little bit. 1909 01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:09,400 Speaker 1: We'll see what Julian Saying can do in a you 1910 01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:11,439 Speaker 1: know what will be a heavily watched game coming up 1911 01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:15,120 Speaker 1: on Saturday with Ohio State in Michigan. If Mendoza just 1912 01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:19,760 Speaker 1: kind of doesn't do anything too, I guess negative is 1913 01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:21,960 Speaker 1: it your thought that he will win the Heisman here 1914 01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:22,400 Speaker 1: coming up? 1915 01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:26,280 Speaker 10: I mean, I guess he Listen, Fernando's had a great year, 1916 01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:28,360 Speaker 10: he really has. He's done a lot of special things. 1917 01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:30,160 Speaker 10: But let's be honest, this is not a this is 1918 01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:33,360 Speaker 10: not a vintage Heisman, you know race, there's not like 1919 01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:35,120 Speaker 10: a couple two three guys that are just you know, 1920 01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:37,280 Speaker 10: blowing everybody, you know, I mean like that are playing 1921 01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:39,439 Speaker 10: like an incredible level. They're playing a really high levels. 1922 01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:41,720 Speaker 10: Don't get me wrong, but usually you have, you know, 1923 01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:45,120 Speaker 10: a couple of guys that are just doing something ridiculous. 1924 01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:46,519 Speaker 3: I guess. 1925 01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:50,000 Speaker 10: So, I mean again, I think Jeremiah Loves should be 1926 01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:51,800 Speaker 10: in a conversation big time. I mean, they've got a 1927 01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:55,080 Speaker 10: freshman quarterback up there. He is just ridiculous. 1928 01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:55,920 Speaker 9: You know. 1929 01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:58,439 Speaker 10: I get the acc is not that is not great, 1930 01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:01,400 Speaker 10: but the bottom line is there they're curb stomping people. 1931 01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:03,240 Speaker 10: I mean that game against Syracuse, they could have named 1932 01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:06,280 Speaker 10: the score. But yeah, I mean, I think Julian's saying, 1933 01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:08,800 Speaker 10: obviously he's done great things in the last couple of weeks. 1934 01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,720 Speaker 10: He hasn't had uh, he has had you know, May 1935 01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:14,600 Speaker 10: arguably the best receiver in football. And Carnel Tate is 1936 01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:16,680 Speaker 10: right up there too. That those guys have been banged up. 1937 01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:18,760 Speaker 10: So I mean, I think I think it's to me, 1938 01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:22,360 Speaker 10: it's kind of a three horse race, and I you know, 1939 01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:24,839 Speaker 10: I think it's kind of this is you know, obviously 1940 01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,040 Speaker 10: non quarterbacks have won up before it happened last year. 1941 01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:28,880 Speaker 10: But it's to me, it's kind of like in the NFL. 1942 01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:31,720 Speaker 10: I think quarterbacks get a little bit more of an 1943 01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:35,120 Speaker 10: advantage when you're playing for these individual awards that maybe 1944 01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:37,599 Speaker 10: a running back or somebody else unless they just do something, 1945 01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:40,679 Speaker 10: you know, incredible. So I would say he's he's probably 1946 01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:43,240 Speaker 10: the favorite. But for me, and while it would be 1947 01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:45,280 Speaker 10: great for an Indiana player to win the Heisman, the 1948 01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:48,719 Speaker 10: most important thing is getting through this week and obviously 1949 01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:50,880 Speaker 10: the Big Ten Championship is healthy as possible so that 1950 01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:52,559 Speaker 10: you can make a run for a national title. 1951 01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:57,000 Speaker 5: Last one from me, Matt. Along those lines, though, do 1952 01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:59,040 Speaker 5: you think he cares about it? I know when we 1953 01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:02,080 Speaker 5: ask players that as reporters are like a team first, 1954 01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:04,120 Speaker 5: but it's the highest what we're talking about. 1955 01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:08,320 Speaker 10: Oh, I think, I think, I think any player cares 1956 01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:11,240 Speaker 10: about individual awards. I do think Fernando is about team first, 1957 01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:13,759 Speaker 10: and I think, listen, I think Fernando came to Indiana 1958 01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:16,439 Speaker 10: because he wanted to be coached so he can get 1959 01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:18,519 Speaker 10: to the next level. I think I think his ultimate 1960 01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:20,519 Speaker 10: goal is to be an NFL quarterback, which is a 1961 01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:23,360 Speaker 10: goal of probably almost any player. In college football, and 1962 01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:25,479 Speaker 10: I think that's his biggest goal, and I think that's 1963 01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,000 Speaker 10: what he would say individually if he wins the Heisman. 1964 01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:29,479 Speaker 10: I think, of course he'd love to win the Heisman. 1965 01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:30,000 Speaker 3: Who wouldn't. 1966 01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:32,200 Speaker 10: I mean, that's that's a big deal. But at the 1967 01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:34,840 Speaker 10: end of the day, if they tell him we're gonna 1968 01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:36,360 Speaker 10: go through the playoff and you're gonna throw the ball 1969 01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:37,840 Speaker 10: twenty times a game, we're gonna run it. And now 1970 01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:39,599 Speaker 10: I'm gonna say they're gonna do this, We're gonna run 1971 01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:41,400 Speaker 10: at forty forty five times a game because that's how 1972 01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:43,559 Speaker 10: we think we can win. I think he would be like, okay, 1973 01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:45,840 Speaker 10: or you know whatever. I obviously the heismanvie before that, 1974 01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,120 Speaker 10: but like in the Ohio State game or the Prodio 1975 01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:50,160 Speaker 10: game this week, he's gonna do what's best for the team. 1976 01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:52,160 Speaker 10: And if the Heisman comes from that, great, and if 1977 01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:54,120 Speaker 10: it doesn't, I mean, I don't I think he'll be 1978 01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:56,719 Speaker 10: okay with that. But yeah, he's a he's a competitor. 1979 01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:59,080 Speaker 10: I mean, you know, and Fernando is I mean, you've 1980 01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:01,720 Speaker 10: seen him, he's out state. In interviews, he always says 1981 01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:03,519 Speaker 10: the right thing. But I would say, deep down, if 1982 01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:05,320 Speaker 10: you if you put him on the light of Texas tests. 1983 01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:06,200 Speaker 10: He said, yeah, I'd love. 1984 01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:07,320 Speaker 3: To win the Heisman. Who wouldn't. 1985 01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:08,599 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. 1986 01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:10,320 Speaker 5: I feel like part of MS gotta be like, I'm 1987 01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:12,679 Speaker 5: better than these dudes. He wouldn't say that, but I'll 1988 01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:12,880 Speaker 5: say it. 1989 01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:13,280 Speaker 7: For him. 1990 01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:16,920 Speaker 1: Is the thought his brother will be the starter next year. 1991 01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:20,599 Speaker 10: Well, I think he'll be in the mix. I mean, 1992 01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:21,400 Speaker 10: here's the thing. 1993 01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:22,479 Speaker 3: Let's I think it's. 1994 01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:24,200 Speaker 10: I think there's a better chance of me being the 1995 01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:26,720 Speaker 10: quarterback in Indiana next year than Fernando Mendoza because he's 1996 01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:29,280 Speaker 10: gonna go pro. I guess unless he just doesn't want 1997 01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:31,160 Speaker 10: to play for the Jets or possibly the Browns, which 1998 01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:34,519 Speaker 10: I don't think I could blame him, but you know, 1999 01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:37,040 Speaker 10: I think it's pretty I think it's pretty much a 2000 01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:39,519 Speaker 10: foregone conclusion. This isn't source. This is just this is 2001 01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:43,559 Speaker 10: just being logical. He's gonna go pro. If you look 2002 01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:46,320 Speaker 10: at the quarterback room after that, they just they you know, 2003 01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:49,680 Speaker 10: they've parted ways with their twenty twenty six commit Cashier era. 2004 01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:52,960 Speaker 10: Tyler Cherry's expected to be back on the roster after 2005 01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:54,680 Speaker 10: missing this year at the knee injury, and then they 2006 01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:57,360 Speaker 10: have another young quarterback that's a true freshman of the illinoid, 2007 01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:01,360 Speaker 10: Jacob Bell. So you have an incredibly, incredibly inexperienced quarterback 2008 01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:03,519 Speaker 10: room for twenty twenty six. They're going to go get 2009 01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:06,000 Speaker 10: a transfer. Now, who that is and what kind of 2010 01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:08,000 Speaker 10: level he'll be will be a guy that comes in 2011 01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:11,280 Speaker 10: and you know, it's not like the Ferneo Mendoza where 2012 01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:14,000 Speaker 10: he's basically annointed as the starter, or will be somebody 2013 01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:15,400 Speaker 10: where you just want to bring in somebody who can 2014 01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:18,280 Speaker 10: provide competition and has a chance to win the job. 2015 01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:20,479 Speaker 10: But for an end or I'm sorry, Alberto is still 2016 01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:22,640 Speaker 10: you know, a part of that discussion. But they're going 2017 01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:24,840 Speaker 10: to bring in a transfer. There's no you have to. 2018 01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:28,120 Speaker 10: It would be honestly coaching negligence if you didn't, because 2019 01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:31,439 Speaker 10: if some if Alberto would get hurt, you're turning to 2020 01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:33,640 Speaker 10: a guy who literally has never taken a snap in 2021 01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:35,880 Speaker 10: college football, and you just can't do that. So they'll 2022 01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:37,719 Speaker 10: bring in a transfer. But I think he will definitely 2023 01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:38,960 Speaker 10: be in the mix, and I think he's got a 2024 01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:40,840 Speaker 10: good shot to win the job. He's a talent, k 2025 01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:43,080 Speaker 10: and we just haven't seen him when the bullets are 2026 01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:45,160 Speaker 10: really real We've seen him a mop up time and 2027 01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:47,120 Speaker 10: he's looked great. But it's a lot different coming in 2028 01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:49,160 Speaker 10: forty nine ten than when the score is maybe ten 2029 01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:49,400 Speaker 10: to ten. 2030 01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:52,960 Speaker 1: He could very well get in coming up on Friday night. 2031 01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:55,960 Speaker 1: With how Indiana has played here as of late, it 2032 01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:59,000 Speaker 1: is the Bucket Game twenty eight and a half point 2033 01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:02,559 Speaker 1: a favorite Indiana over Purdue in this one again seven 2034 01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:05,200 Speaker 1: thirty coming up from West Alafia. Matt, have a great 2035 01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:06,080 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving man. 2036 01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:08,519 Speaker 10: You two guys, thanks so much for having me on. 2037 01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:13,200 Speaker 1: Matt Weaver from pigs where you can find his work. 2038 01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:15,280 Speaker 1: I remember we had Dan Brugler on a few weeks back. 2039 01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:17,639 Speaker 1: James the Draft Analyst. He mentioned that from a twenty 2040 01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:22,560 Speaker 1: twenty six quarterback cycle, he had four quarterbacks ranked in 2041 01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:26,040 Speaker 1: his top twenty at the start of the year. Mendoza 2042 01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:28,719 Speaker 1: was one of the four, and Mendoza was the only 2043 01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:34,280 Speaker 1: one that had maintained that status. Now, what are we 2044 01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:37,120 Speaker 1: eleven weeks into the college football season? Twelve weeks in 2045 01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:37,960 Speaker 1: the college football season. 2046 01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:41,920 Speaker 5: It's a credits how he's handled everything, because I think 2047 01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:45,479 Speaker 5: of all the quarterbacks I've watched this year in college football, 2048 01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:49,000 Speaker 5: and I'm not some die hard fan watching every single game, 2049 01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:51,799 Speaker 5: but I'll try to watch the big ones. He seems 2050 01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:54,439 Speaker 5: to be the most stable of all the top tier 2051 01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:57,439 Speaker 5: guys for this year's draft class. Like I haven't seen 2052 01:34:57,479 --> 01:35:00,439 Speaker 5: it Fernanda Mendoza performance where I'm like, boy is just 2053 01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:05,719 Speaker 5: so off today, or he's snowballing into a really bad performance. 2054 01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:08,479 Speaker 5: There's been some mistake, sure, but I think he's got 2055 01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:10,680 Speaker 5: a lot of mental fortitude to go along with the 2056 01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:11,840 Speaker 5: obvious physical talent. 2057 01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:15,200 Speaker 1: What's the jets in the browns of the Thanksgiving plate? 2058 01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:18,400 Speaker 1: I'm not a big cranberry sauce guy. 2059 01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:23,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, cranberry anything not Usually that can get a tad controversial. 2060 01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:27,200 Speaker 4: I know, I know, but I like controversy, so I'm 2061 01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:30,439 Speaker 4: against it. And I don't know what. 2062 01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:31,479 Speaker 1: About the damn turkey? 2063 01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:34,479 Speaker 4: No, I am right like this. 2064 01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:36,760 Speaker 1: I do like turkey, So I know. It all comes 2065 01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:37,560 Speaker 1: down to how you make it. 2066 01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:39,160 Speaker 4: And I'm like, look, if you gotta do. 2067 01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:42,160 Speaker 1: This, Emerald Lagasi, Hey, I get mean. You sound like 2068 01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:44,720 Speaker 1: you're watching the Food Network and you're living with a 2069 01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:45,400 Speaker 1: pioneer woman. 2070 01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:45,760 Speaker 9: No you do. 2071 01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:46,479 Speaker 1: Let me finish. 2072 01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:49,040 Speaker 5: It all comes down to how you make it, and 2073 01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:51,559 Speaker 5: I can't make all that stuff. So by the time 2074 01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:53,040 Speaker 5: you get done with all that. Just give me the ham, 2075 01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:55,960 Speaker 5: which is probably more easier to get the job done. 2076 01:35:57,479 --> 01:35:59,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with Cranberry for the most parts. I'm trying 2077 01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:01,720 Speaker 2: to think of like other ones. I just I see 2078 01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:04,200 Speaker 2: it on the table. I'm like, nope, hard pass. 2079 01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:08,280 Speaker 1: Evan Cheryl says deviled eggs. I couldn't agree more. 2080 01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:09,679 Speaker 4: I couldn't. 2081 01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:11,479 Speaker 1: Just people love them, and I'm just like, I just 2082 01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:15,680 Speaker 1: want that fuster truck now that Evan cheryldman here, I 2083 01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:16,280 Speaker 1: can do one. 2084 01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:18,400 Speaker 2: But like some people are like housing like six of them. 2085 01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:20,200 Speaker 2: They're like chipmunks. I'm like, how are you eating all 2086 01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:23,360 Speaker 2: those eggs right now? That's not gonna Some of you 2087 01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:27,840 Speaker 2: guys are just haters, clearly with some pepto bismol. It's 2088 01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:33,080 Speaker 2: bubble and you're adult diaper. Yeah, who wins Chiefs? Cowboys tomorrow? Cowboys? 2089 01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:37,320 Speaker 2: Oh that is interesting because I feel like the Chiefs. 2090 01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:40,240 Speaker 2: You would think they turned it on this past week. 2091 01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:42,719 Speaker 2: He gets the Colts, but Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens 2092 01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:44,880 Speaker 2: and the way Deck Prescott is slinging it right now. 2093 01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:47,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if their defense can stop a lick, 2094 01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:49,320 Speaker 2: but their offense is looking pretty good. 2095 01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:51,120 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, George Pickens, I know he can, 2096 01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, make you have to dial up we grow hair, Indy, 2097 01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:57,160 Speaker 1: But that dude is talented. I'm gonna stay. 2098 01:36:57,200 --> 01:36:59,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Kansas City still pulls it off, but 2099 01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:01,559 Speaker 2: I think it'll be closer than a lot of people 2100 01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:02,000 Speaker 2: think it'll be. 2101 01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:05,240 Speaker 1: So that's why we got tomorrow. I'll start with Lions 2102 01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:08,000 Speaker 1: and Packers. Well a little later start time. I saw 2103 01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:10,040 Speaker 1: we're one o'clock. I thought we usually were in the 2104 01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:12,920 Speaker 1: twelve o'clock window. Yeah, I feel like, yeah, it's usually 2105 01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,240 Speaker 1: twelve thirty. I think is usually the kickoff for that one. 2106 01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:17,680 Speaker 1: So I mean, aren't you done with your family by then? 2107 01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:18,840 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, now, that is? 2108 01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:19,360 Speaker 6: That is? 2109 01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:20,400 Speaker 3: I was the next Comba. 2110 01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:22,680 Speaker 2: I always remember the Lions games starting in Illinois and 2111 01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:25,000 Speaker 2: they'd be like eleven thirty and I'm like ironing clothes, 2112 01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:27,000 Speaker 2: getting ready. Oh, the game's on now. I'm like, oh, 2113 01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:30,599 Speaker 2: I forgot that, but now yeah, apparently they're going regular 2114 01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:32,920 Speaker 2: kicktime and then the night game, I believe is just a. 2115 01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:37,200 Speaker 1: Peacock exclusive dial up. No, it's not NBC. 2116 01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:39,920 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I thought I heard Mike Rico 2117 01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:41,240 Speaker 2: say it on Sunday Night that there was a. 2118 01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:44,800 Speaker 1: Should be a scene exclusive. Well, I could be wrong there, 2119 01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:47,719 Speaker 1: by the way, who you are, I'm not you personally, 2120 01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:49,560 Speaker 1: but I feel like that's no, I'm wrong speaking a 2121 01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:53,080 Speaker 1: peacock speaking of it looks like it's on NBC. My mistake. 2122 01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:55,160 Speaker 1: It's on NBC and peacock. Okay, there we go. You 2123 01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:57,240 Speaker 1: guys hear Matt Weaver talk about my irish there? 2124 01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:01,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's doing this because he wants to 2125 01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:03,960 Speaker 5: come back on the show and to readjust. 2126 01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:06,760 Speaker 1: The pants a little bit there, gosh, man, not due 2127 01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:07,519 Speaker 1: to my waist either. 2128 01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:10,519 Speaker 2: To be abundantly clear, Jeff, when cluster truck walks in 2129 01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:13,120 Speaker 2: the door, you do you agree with Matt Weaver? 2130 01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:17,000 Speaker 1: You unbiased individuals? I won't, Giant manhair. Do you think 2131 01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:18,720 Speaker 1: there are teams out there that don't want to see 2132 01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:20,719 Speaker 1: Notre Dame on their side of the bracket? 2133 01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:23,400 Speaker 5: No, I think that's true. I mean, anytime you get 2134 01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:28,439 Speaker 5: rolling like this, CJ. Carr doesn't look like the new 2135 01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:32,439 Speaker 5: starting quarterback anymore. Granted he looked good early, looks like 2136 01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:34,920 Speaker 5: they trust him more. And then Jeremiah loves best player 2137 01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,800 Speaker 5: in college football right now, I think pound for pound 2138 01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:40,599 Speaker 5: you can go with the Heisman Trophy candidacy, but player 2139 01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,840 Speaker 5: for player, he's probably the best. So yeah, then when 2140 01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:46,559 Speaker 5: you put twenty one points on the board against an 2141 01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:49,919 Speaker 5: opponent without putting your offense out there, that's pretty impressive. 2142 01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:51,920 Speaker 4: Maybe that's just as bad as Syracuse is. 2143 01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:54,519 Speaker 5: But credit to the special teams and defense at the 2144 01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:56,439 Speaker 5: Notre Dame Fighting Iris also offer. 2145 01:38:56,520 --> 01:39:00,400 Speaker 1: I still think Ohio State's brand well off them to 2146 01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:04,040 Speaker 1: be the definite favorite when the playoff gets here, but 2147 01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:06,240 Speaker 1: it does have the field of a little bit more 2148 01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:11,519 Speaker 1: open bracket. Like if I said, okay, let's start ranking 2149 01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:13,760 Speaker 1: these teams that could win at all, I think you 2150 01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:16,240 Speaker 1: could get a lot of disagreement on you know, is 2151 01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:19,040 Speaker 1: Indiana definitely right there too? What about Texas A and 2152 01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:23,160 Speaker 1: m is Georgia Alabama? You know, does anybody believe in 2153 01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:26,600 Speaker 1: whatever teams that are playing on the first weekend? I mean, 2154 01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:28,360 Speaker 1: last year that's what you had. You had Ohio State 2155 01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:31,280 Speaker 1: not her name, neither of them got to buy and 2156 01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:32,960 Speaker 1: they made it all the way to the National title Game. 2157 01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:35,120 Speaker 1: So I don't know, it just feels like it's got 2158 01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:37,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of that flavor coming up this year. 2159 01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:40,720 Speaker 1: We still need to do our colts Texans pick. We've 2160 01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:44,679 Speaker 1: got Greg Rekstraw here coming up in ten Mark Daikulens 2161 01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:45,280 Speaker 1: checking out. 2162 01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:50,120 Speaker 6: The Morning Checkdown on ninety three five and one oh 2163 01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:50,880 Speaker 6: seven five. 2164 01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:54,160 Speaker 1: All Right, we're talking a lot of IU football right 2165 01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:56,640 Speaker 1: there with Matt Weaver, but how about some IU basketball 2166 01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:59,960 Speaker 1: shout out to the Kenny Powers offspring, Connor and Ryan. 2167 01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:03,519 Speaker 1: That dude is my MVP from last night. The hair 2168 01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:06,000 Speaker 1: is a little mofy, it's a little old school. The 2169 01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:09,160 Speaker 1: form on the jump shot might not look picture perfect, 2170 01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:11,679 Speaker 1: but that dude does a lot of little things for Indiana. 2171 01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:16,240 Speaker 1: Outstanding defensively last night and really contributed offensively in a 2172 01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:19,519 Speaker 1: notable way as well. Guarding the All American PJ. Haggerty 2173 01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:22,080 Speaker 1: did an outstanding job there, and I thought it was 2174 01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:24,720 Speaker 1: a defense. I know Indiana shot a million threes early. 2175 01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:26,880 Speaker 1: They got to the foul line a bunch, but James, 2176 01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:29,839 Speaker 1: we mentioned it on yesterday's show. Kansas State was scoring 2177 01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:32,960 Speaker 1: this year and they just get to seventy last night, 2178 01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:35,679 Speaker 1: and that was a grind for them to get to seventy. 2179 01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:38,320 Speaker 1: So pretty impressive. Eighty six to sixty nine for Darren 2180 01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:39,080 Speaker 1: Debreese's bunch. 2181 01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:41,479 Speaker 5: They were a man undefeated, and they look like they 2182 01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:45,200 Speaker 5: have formed an identity of knockdown open shots, shooting a 2183 01:40:45,240 --> 01:40:47,439 Speaker 5: three ball very well, and like you mentioned. 2184 01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:48,400 Speaker 4: Trying to play some pretty defense. 2185 01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:52,200 Speaker 1: They shot ten threes in the first segment of the game, 2186 01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:54,000 Speaker 1: the first four minutes of the game. I mean, I 2187 01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:56,400 Speaker 1: recall several times in the bike Woods and Era of 2188 01:40:56,439 --> 01:41:00,880 Speaker 1: them not even getting to ten threes attempted an entire game. There, 2189 01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:03,240 Speaker 1: so some spurt ability they definitely have. Shout out to 2190 01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:05,559 Speaker 1: Trent Sisley. I thought the freshman has had a really 2191 01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:09,080 Speaker 1: nice start here his first season in Bloomington. All right, 2192 01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:11,639 Speaker 1: tonight north of the Border, it's a seven thirty tip, 2193 01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:16,520 Speaker 1: Mark you said the sister station on WTCHR yep w ALV. 2194 01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:20,320 Speaker 1: I believe and WHR and their sister station will pick up. 2195 01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:23,000 Speaker 1: I think it's ten or eleven Pacer games coming up 2196 01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:24,880 Speaker 1: this season. This will be one of them. Tonight's seven 2197 01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:27,559 Speaker 1: thirty tip against a Raptors team, James that I would say, 2198 01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:29,840 Speaker 1: if you make a list of the early first month 2199 01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:33,280 Speaker 1: surprises in the NBA, the Raptors are right up there 2200 01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:33,599 Speaker 1: with any. 2201 01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:34,440 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 2202 01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:36,200 Speaker 5: I'm not just hoping they don't have any surprises like 2203 01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:37,600 Speaker 5: I did when I went to Toronto a couple of 2204 01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:41,639 Speaker 5: years ago. A speaker caught on head over the court 2205 01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:44,880 Speaker 5: and they had to evacuate all the fans and so 2206 01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:47,200 Speaker 5: it fell like a bubble game. I stayed and I 2207 01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:49,360 Speaker 5: heard Pascal Siakam, who was a Toronto raptor at the time, 2208 01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:51,840 Speaker 5: yell at a Pacers player after shut the ball. 2209 01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:54,639 Speaker 1: Hell no, that was quite the experience. 2210 01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:55,160 Speaker 3: Boy. 2211 01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:57,760 Speaker 1: I vaguely remember that. And where was the game where 2212 01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:00,680 Speaker 1: you covering? The game was against the Pelicans when there 2213 01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:01,920 Speaker 1: was a bat in the arena. 2214 01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:03,720 Speaker 4: No, I did not, but I have to ad to 2215 01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:04,840 Speaker 4: reference that in my story. 2216 01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:07,760 Speaker 5: So yeah, seriously, we were sitting there at the game 2217 01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:09,800 Speaker 5: and we started smelling something that it was burning, and 2218 01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:12,240 Speaker 5: I'm like, it can be popcorn because it smelled rubbery 2219 01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:14,960 Speaker 5: and it was a speaker. We saw this mass exodus 2220 01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:17,519 Speaker 5: of people and so they get on the PA announcer 2221 01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:19,960 Speaker 5: and they say, hey, everyone's got to evacuate, and this 2222 01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:21,360 Speaker 5: guy courts our tickets. 2223 01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:23,000 Speaker 4: He looks at me and says, does that mean us? 2224 01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:25,479 Speaker 4: I was like, are you a fan? He's like, yeah, look, 2225 01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:26,280 Speaker 4: well you probably. 2226 01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:26,400 Speaker 3: Have to leave. 2227 01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:29,240 Speaker 5: It's like, I mean, I'm not the fire marshal he 2228 01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:31,160 Speaker 5: ever come on Man and they laid it for like 2229 01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:34,200 Speaker 5: an hour, and they resumed the game with no fans, 2230 01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:37,200 Speaker 5: and it was so eerie and weird, and looking back 2231 01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:38,680 Speaker 5: on it, I want to see the Patiers had just 2232 01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:41,400 Speaker 5: traded for Tyre's hollibird not too long ago, and Pascal 2233 01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:43,400 Speaker 5: Sea outcome was on that court and all their teammates. 2234 01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:48,360 Speaker 1: Fascinating look at that. It's quite a little oral history 2235 01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:50,759 Speaker 1: right there. From there you go, boy, all right, college 2236 01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:52,600 Speaker 1: football this weekend. We know the Bucket game will be 2237 01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:55,719 Speaker 1: seven thirty coming up on Friday night from West Lafayette. 2238 01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:58,960 Speaker 1: How about some local smaller school action you Indie for 2239 01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:01,559 Speaker 1: the first time in I believe their school history, they're 2240 01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:04,759 Speaker 1: hosting a second round playoff game. There'll be two o'clock. 2241 01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:08,560 Speaker 1: Minnesota State. We've got the D three playoffs with the 2242 01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:12,759 Speaker 1: Paw and Handover both an action here coming up Saturday 2243 01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:16,280 Speaker 1: at one o'clock and Marion they will have dort if 2244 01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying that correctly, out of Iowa. That is over 2245 01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:22,559 Speaker 1: at Ascension Saint Vincent Field at one oh five. Coming 2246 01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:26,519 Speaker 1: up on Saturday. Notre Dame Stanford. That is a late 2247 01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:31,160 Speaker 1: one ten to thirty kick that is from Palazzo with 2248 01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:34,679 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck and Frank Reich's final game as the interim 2249 01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:39,960 Speaker 1: head coach. Only other thing I really had I SA 2250 01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:43,360 Speaker 1: State Football Finals, James, anything standing out to you you 2251 01:43:43,439 --> 01:43:47,000 Speaker 1: mentioned a little bit earlier Westfield Brownsburg and that rematch. 2252 01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:49,960 Speaker 1: Anything from a one A to six A standpoint you're 2253 01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:52,160 Speaker 1: looking forward to this week in Greg Greg Shaw will 2254 01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:53,840 Speaker 1: join us next obviously to talk more about him. 2255 01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:55,600 Speaker 5: I want to say this might be one of the 2256 01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:59,920 Speaker 5: best seasons in Cascade history. They're probably underdogs against Lore 2257 01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:02,960 Speaker 5: considering their resume and who they played throughout the regular 2258 01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:05,519 Speaker 5: season and gets to this point. So not the regular 2259 01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:07,439 Speaker 5: what is it eight and five, nine to five team, 2260 01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:10,680 Speaker 5: whatever it is as far as their schedule, But I 2261 01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:13,680 Speaker 5: think the Caske Cadets is a good story and that 2262 01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:16,000 Speaker 5: small time, small town vibe never gets old. 2263 01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:18,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we talk Cletin Eddrip about it on Monday. That 2264 01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:20,519 Speaker 1: was an awesome atmosphere for their semi state game with 2265 01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:23,120 Speaker 1: Gibson Southern on Saturday. Really cool to see the shots 2266 01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:26,280 Speaker 1: around their field there. So again, there'll be three A 2267 01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:30,959 Speaker 1: that is approximately three o'clock three thirty coming up on Friday. 2268 01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:34,000 Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about the bigger classes. Pioneer South 2269 01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:36,400 Speaker 1: Putnam will get us started. I thought I saw kylein 2270 01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:39,560 Speaker 1: Ndrip sweet Out yesterday. There's like thirty four kids on 2271 01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:42,839 Speaker 1: the Pioneer football team. Just just amazing there. Jack Kaiser 2272 01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:46,559 Speaker 1: a former Pioneer player there. So that'll get things started. 2273 01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:48,880 Speaker 1: And then two way that'll be the first game on 2274 01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:53,200 Speaker 1: Saturday is Andrean and Brownstown Central. Shout out to the 2275 01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:57,160 Speaker 1: Andrea fifty nine ers. Brownstown Central make them their first 2276 01:44:57,240 --> 01:45:00,839 Speaker 1: ever State finals appearance. Shout out to their quarterback, Micah Scheffer, 2277 01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:05,960 Speaker 1: quarterback and football plays basketball for them, and he's heading 2278 01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:09,639 Speaker 1: to Purdue on a golf scholarship. Twice the multi sport 2279 01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:14,640 Speaker 1: a favorites for Brownstown Central God's favorite. How about our 2280 01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:18,200 Speaker 1: next guest? Yes, I gave him a great voice, the 2281 01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:19,800 Speaker 1: only Greg Ragshaw. He joins us. 2282 01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:24,960 Speaker 2: Greatest Thanksgiving halftime show of all time right here, the 2283 01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:27,720 Speaker 2: guy flying through the air like Superman. 2284 01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:31,160 Speaker 1: We know how good we had it, but we said 2285 01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:33,599 Speaker 1: we're not running back with Creed coming up on Thursday, right. 2286 01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:34,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, who'd you say? 2287 01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:40,640 Speaker 1: Little John, Little John post Malone and Jack White. I 2288 01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:44,679 Speaker 1: need Little John to perform Lovers and friends. Tell me again, 2289 01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:47,040 Speaker 1: my baby, what year, was that one like get low? 2290 01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:51,080 Speaker 2: I know that'll get you turned up when Creed played Yeah, 2291 01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:53,040 Speaker 2: it had to be early two thousands, right like two 2292 01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:53,760 Speaker 2: thousand and four. 2293 01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:56,639 Speaker 1: I thought, you're gonna go back to celebration cool and Gang. 2294 01:45:56,680 --> 01:45:59,240 Speaker 1: We played that a little bit earlier. For our Indiana 2295 01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:04,040 Speaker 1: two thousand, two thousand and one one wow Man, Indiana 2296 01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:06,880 Speaker 1: Sports Writer of the Year finalists, our very own James Boyd. 2297 01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:14,600 Speaker 1: How about our next guests, Indiana Sportscaster finalists, No surprise whatsoever, 2298 01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:20,240 Speaker 1: the one, the only, Greg rakestraw Ray. Congrats brother, Thank. 2299 01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:23,640 Speaker 7: You appreciated and good luck to the other four finalists 2300 01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:27,479 Speaker 7: and Christinari, Rob Blackman, Andrew Chernoff, and Mark Boyle. I 2301 01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:29,280 Speaker 7: am honored to be part of such a group. 2302 01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:32,240 Speaker 1: Well, they are honored to be a part of you 2303 01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:34,680 Speaker 1: on that list there, Rake, This is one of my 2304 01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:37,599 Speaker 1: favorite weeks of the year. I know it's a week 2305 01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:41,639 Speaker 1: that has your schedule crowded like none other. Last night 2306 01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:44,639 Speaker 1: over on the West Side, what does the entire week 2307 01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:47,320 Speaker 1: look like? I believe you've got a college basketball game 2308 01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:49,960 Speaker 1: on Friday. I do so. 2309 01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:52,680 Speaker 7: Last night was game one of six for me, not 2310 01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:55,760 Speaker 7: counting the Colts on Sunday to tonight as Avon and 2311 01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:59,760 Speaker 7: Plainfield with a season opener, and Plainfield had a chance 2312 01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:01,639 Speaker 7: to do some damage in four A this year. They're 2313 01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:04,000 Speaker 7: part of a loaded schedule sectional that Ben Davis is 2314 01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:06,200 Speaker 7: a part of Pike maybe the best team in the 2315 01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:07,479 Speaker 7: state and that's in that sectional. 2316 01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:07,720 Speaker 3: Two. 2317 01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:11,160 Speaker 7: Plainfield is led by Noah Smith. That's gonna go play 2318 01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:14,880 Speaker 7: at DePaul for Chris Holtman next year. And as unlikely 2319 01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:18,519 Speaker 7: Indiana All Star. Avon's got some young pieces around Gennadiah 2320 01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:21,360 Speaker 7: Minnette and a new coach and Corey Taylor who led 2321 01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:25,000 Speaker 7: Ben Davis the state championship game back in twenty twenty four. 2322 01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:28,000 Speaker 7: That's tonight's game at seven thirty on my Inde TV. 2323 01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:30,920 Speaker 7: Then on Friday afternoon I will have the Butler Wright 2324 01:47:31,040 --> 01:47:35,360 Speaker 7: State game on ESBN Plus. I was great to hear 2325 01:47:35,439 --> 01:47:37,479 Speaker 7: Fad model the program early. I'll be catching up with 2326 01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:41,160 Speaker 7: Fad coming up on Friday morning before the game and 2327 01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:44,240 Speaker 7: then it's five a Friday night for me. And on Saturday, 2328 01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:47,160 Speaker 7: I you Indy Moorhead State at two and then the 2329 01:47:47,240 --> 01:47:49,760 Speaker 7: six A game at seven o'clock Saturday night. 2330 01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:51,439 Speaker 3: Rake. 2331 01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:54,760 Speaker 5: When you look at these football matchup, first off, I'll 2332 01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:56,880 Speaker 5: back up and say I saw you last night at 2333 01:47:56,920 --> 01:47:58,360 Speaker 5: bed to get a chance to go over there. You 2334 01:47:58,439 --> 01:48:01,160 Speaker 5: were doing your thing on the your ways, but certainly 2335 01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:02,320 Speaker 5: a great game we saw last night. 2336 01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:05,800 Speaker 7: First of all, you could have come over because of 2337 01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:08,800 Speaker 7: the late start of the JV game fair fifty minutes 2338 01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:12,000 Speaker 7: a live pregame on television. You would have been welcomed 2339 01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:13,880 Speaker 7: to come over and say hello, we're to front a 2340 01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:18,240 Speaker 7: headset odd you would not let you leave for ten minutes. Secondarily, 2341 01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:20,760 Speaker 7: I did point since you were sitting next to our 2342 01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:23,479 Speaker 7: great mutual friend John Easter mid court. Yes, And I 2343 01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:25,880 Speaker 7: went to Jason Thompson since I had a camera guy 2344 01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:27,120 Speaker 7: or next me, I said, hey, I said, you see 2345 01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:30,240 Speaker 7: that guy down there, that's James Boyd. Then he pointed. 2346 01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:32,080 Speaker 7: I said, no, no, no, that's my buddy, John Easter. 2347 01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:34,880 Speaker 7: The guy next to him is James Boyce. So we 2348 01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:38,519 Speaker 7: got you a congratulatory shout out for your finalist status 2349 01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:40,600 Speaker 7: all the broadcast last. 2350 01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:42,320 Speaker 1: Night, much appreciation. 2351 01:48:42,680 --> 01:48:44,840 Speaker 7: I thought it was of notes that I pointed out 2352 01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:48,000 Speaker 7: two people in the stands that we could get on camera, 2353 01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:50,840 Speaker 7: the other one being you know, Jason Gardner's dad who 2354 01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:54,200 Speaker 7: flew in from Arizona to watch him play. We didn't 2355 01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:57,519 Speaker 7: get Jason Gardner's dad on camera. We got James Boyd 2356 01:48:57,600 --> 01:48:59,520 Speaker 7: on camera. Hashtig priorities. 2357 01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:03,040 Speaker 4: There you go. I appreciate that Rick always the consummate pro. 2358 01:49:03,640 --> 01:49:08,040 Speaker 5: But looking ahead to this weekend, obviously huge games, legacies 2359 01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:10,400 Speaker 5: and the such will be decided. 2360 01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:11,160 Speaker 4: For certain programs. 2361 01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:15,280 Speaker 5: What are some perhaps underrated storylines we should pay attention to? 2362 01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:18,360 Speaker 5: Because I know the big one is Brownsburg trying to 2363 01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:20,120 Speaker 5: go back to back and remain undefeated for the second 2364 01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:20,559 Speaker 5: trade year. 2365 01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:23,880 Speaker 7: You know, I really think we're gonna have five or 2366 01:49:24,439 --> 01:49:27,280 Speaker 7: maybe even all six games be pretty competitive. You know. 2367 01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:30,639 Speaker 7: The one that you don't think will be just because 2368 01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:33,080 Speaker 7: what they have done to virtually everybody else they have 2369 01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:37,679 Speaker 7: played is New Pal. I know Marrilvilt got some serious 2370 01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:41,320 Speaker 7: talent and serious speed on that team. Can they handle 2371 01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:45,640 Speaker 7: the physicality of New Pal and New Pal for what 2372 01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:48,400 Speaker 7: they have done? There are two stats that jump off 2373 01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:52,120 Speaker 7: the page to me. If they are to win this game, 2374 01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:56,800 Speaker 7: they will have beaten a ranked team every round of 2375 01:49:56,880 --> 01:50:01,200 Speaker 7: the tournament. That has not been done since we went 2376 01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:03,760 Speaker 7: to an all in tournament format in nineteen eighty five. 2377 01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:06,200 Speaker 7: Now I get in five A and six A. Because 2378 01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:09,639 Speaker 7: there's only thirty something teams and ten teams are ranked, 2379 01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:13,439 Speaker 7: it's a little easier to do that, but it's still 2380 01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:16,759 Speaker 7: literally the toughest path you could possibly have, and Newpal 2381 01:50:16,840 --> 01:50:19,599 Speaker 7: has aced them all so far. Other thing that should 2382 01:50:19,640 --> 01:50:22,600 Speaker 7: tell you the amazing job that Kyle Ralph is in 2383 01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:25,640 Speaker 7: a New Pal. If they win, it's the fifth time 2384 01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:29,280 Speaker 7: they would have won a championship in undefeated fashion. The 2385 01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:32,000 Speaker 7: other two coaches that have done that but right and 2386 01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:35,800 Speaker 7: Dick Dellahan. That should get your attention in terms of 2387 01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:38,599 Speaker 7: kind of what Kyle has meant in a short amount 2388 01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:41,840 Speaker 7: of time to Indiana high school football. But in all 2389 01:50:41,880 --> 01:50:45,240 Speaker 7: of these games, you know, you have got communities that 2390 01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:49,280 Speaker 7: either have not been there before, communities that have not 2391 01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:52,679 Speaker 7: been there in a long time. You have some traditional 2392 01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:55,800 Speaker 7: powers like Ron Colly and Dwinger. Who would have thought 2393 01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:58,479 Speaker 7: when Ron Kylly beat him three nothing in week one 2394 01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:01,559 Speaker 7: it'd be a state champion and ship rematch. But that's 2395 01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:04,000 Speaker 7: where you are in four A. But again, JB, I 2396 01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:07,760 Speaker 7: think the overarching theme is I really think at least 2397 01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:11,280 Speaker 7: five of these games should be pretty competitive, one or 2398 01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:12,800 Speaker 7: two score games, and you. 2399 01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:14,960 Speaker 1: Got me on a Jason Gardner rabbit hole right now. 2400 01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:17,439 Speaker 1: I didn't realize he's the third leading scorer all time 2401 01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:19,600 Speaker 1: in Arizona. I knew he had a really impressive career there, 2402 01:51:19,640 --> 01:51:22,200 Speaker 1: I didn't realize he was that high on the list. 2403 01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:25,479 Speaker 1: Greg greg Shall, I went to here Payless Slickers hotline rate. 2404 01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:29,760 Speaker 1: Just to remind everybody from a viewing standpoint, is I 2405 01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:32,760 Speaker 1: just ATV has got an app, right, you can go 2406 01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:34,600 Speaker 1: there and what is it? Is it twenty bucks for 2407 01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:37,679 Speaker 1: the whole for all six games or twenty five bucks 2408 01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:38,120 Speaker 1: something like that. 2409 01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:42,679 Speaker 7: Something along those lines, and his IHSAATV do Oregon again, 2410 01:51:42,680 --> 01:51:44,880 Speaker 7: what I would suggest is simply buy a weekend patch 2411 01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:47,600 Speaker 7: because basically you can buy one game, or for a 2412 01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:50,400 Speaker 7: couple of bucks more, you can buy all six games 2413 01:51:51,080 --> 01:51:55,559 Speaker 7: and it's a little more consider your Black Friday savings 2414 01:51:55,600 --> 01:51:59,760 Speaker 7: from the IHSAA. So simply put go to ihsaatv dot 2415 01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:02,120 Speaker 7: or it will be easy to follow the prompts. 2416 01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:06,080 Speaker 1: Okay, your favorite storyline one A to three A. I 2417 01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:08,439 Speaker 1: know we do a lot obviously, you just mentioned ron Kyllie, 2418 01:52:08,439 --> 01:52:10,120 Speaker 1: you just mentioned new Pal. We get the six A 2419 01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:12,880 Speaker 1: rematch with Westfield and Brownsburg. But if we trimmed it 2420 01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:14,680 Speaker 1: down to one A, two A, and three A. 2421 01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:15,479 Speaker 3: What do you like? 2422 01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:20,200 Speaker 7: Cashgade going for a first time jumps off the page 2423 01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:22,760 Speaker 7: at me. And the fact that they, you know, they 2424 01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:25,840 Speaker 7: kind of had the stage for themselves. And I love 2425 01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:29,160 Speaker 7: the reference that was made. If you had the helicopter, 2426 01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:30,560 Speaker 7: the drone would have looked like the end of the 2427 01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:33,720 Speaker 7: field of dreams. Everybody trying to get to Cascade High 2428 01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:36,639 Speaker 7: School to and from on Saturday night going there. Over 2429 01:52:36,720 --> 01:52:40,479 Speaker 7: four thousand folks that were at that game, most if 2430 01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:43,200 Speaker 7: not all, of southwestern Hendrix County will be of the 2431 01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:47,640 Speaker 7: three A game on Friday afternoon. The other story that 2432 01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:49,960 Speaker 7: stands out to me is that Reid May, the head 2433 01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:52,880 Speaker 7: coach at Brownstown Central, has been doing this for a 2434 01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:56,040 Speaker 7: long time. As over three hundred wins, his winning percentage 2435 01:52:56,640 --> 01:52:59,920 Speaker 7: is somewhere in the eighty five percent range. Brownstown's down 2436 01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:01,840 Speaker 7: has been the best team in their league for a 2437 01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:04,360 Speaker 7: long time, and they have always been one of the 2438 01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:08,479 Speaker 7: two smallest football playing schools in the Mid Southern Conference, 2439 01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:12,320 Speaker 7: and here they are finally getting to a state championship game. 2440 01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:15,200 Speaker 7: So it's kind of a career crowning achievement for Reed 2441 01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:17,479 Speaker 7: to be able to bring Browns down Central to a 2442 01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:21,639 Speaker 7: state championship game. And from a South Putnam standpoint, they've 2443 01:53:21,640 --> 01:53:23,160 Speaker 7: been good for a long time. They've been kind of 2444 01:53:23,200 --> 01:53:26,000 Speaker 7: knocking on the door. They running a Lutheran or Providence. 2445 01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:28,960 Speaker 7: That was not the case in either situation. This year, 2446 01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:32,960 Speaker 7: Providence got beaten by Milon. South Putnham went to mylond 2447 01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:37,200 Speaker 7: and handled them rather easily. And I've known Chuck Sorel, 2448 01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:40,879 Speaker 7: their head coach, back to his playing days at Franklin 2449 01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:42,559 Speaker 7: College twenty five years ago. 2450 01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:45,400 Speaker 3: So I am. I'm so happy for Chuck. 2451 01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:46,720 Speaker 7: Had a good chance to catch up with him and 2452 01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:50,280 Speaker 7: see him on Monday. But I think of one h 2453 01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:52,400 Speaker 7: or three those are the immediate things that come to mind. 2454 01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:55,559 Speaker 5: So Rake, I know you don't count it in your 2455 01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:58,800 Speaker 5: six games coming up, but you do have a Colts 2456 01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:02,680 Speaker 5: game to call. So what are your thoughts on the 2457 01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:06,000 Speaker 5: opportunity that awaits against Houston and perhaps how formidable that 2458 01:54:06,120 --> 01:54:10,519 Speaker 5: defense is considering the gut wrenching loss the Colts just 2459 01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:12,360 Speaker 5: came off of in Kansas City. 2460 01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:16,599 Speaker 7: Yeah, quite formidable. And again, and I point this out 2461 01:54:16,640 --> 01:54:19,200 Speaker 7: on the postgame show Sunday, that's not the way NFL 2462 01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:21,840 Speaker 7: players or coaches think. But maybe this is a recalibration 2463 01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:24,760 Speaker 7: for fans. I'm not saying the way bye bye the 2464 01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:27,479 Speaker 7: dream of being the number one seed in the AFC South, 2465 01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:30,599 Speaker 7: but now the focuses are remember one seeing the AFC, 2466 01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:33,520 Speaker 7: but now the focus is on the AFC South. The 2467 01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:36,720 Speaker 7: next two games will determine what the conversation looks like 2468 01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:39,720 Speaker 7: for the following four weeks. If the Colts can find 2469 01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:43,600 Speaker 7: a way to win against Houston and beat Jacksonville, the 2470 01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:46,920 Speaker 7: AFC South is theirs. And now realistically, you're playing for 2471 01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:50,760 Speaker 7: a first weekend by you're playing for a second potential 2472 01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:53,680 Speaker 7: home game. But now you got to take care of business. 2473 01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:57,320 Speaker 7: And you know, when the season started, I almost think 2474 01:54:57,400 --> 01:54:59,520 Speaker 7: the overwhelming thought was, hey, if you're in the neighborhood 2475 01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:02,600 Speaker 7: of five h underd you've got those four division games 2476 01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:06,000 Speaker 7: left of your last six, you win those, you're going 2477 01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:09,160 Speaker 7: to be okay. And that is still the prevailing wisdom, 2478 01:55:09,200 --> 01:55:12,640 Speaker 7: even after a much better start than anybody would have anticipated. 2479 01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:18,800 Speaker 7: So the finish was obviously disappointing on Sunday afternoon, but 2480 01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:21,320 Speaker 7: at the same time, this is one you ultimately got 2481 01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:24,680 Speaker 7: to kind of flush quickly because you know Houston's playing 2482 01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:27,920 Speaker 7: better football and Jacksonville's playing better football, and if you 2483 01:55:28,040 --> 01:55:31,560 Speaker 7: can win these next two, then maybe we're talking about 2484 01:55:31,880 --> 01:55:34,760 Speaker 7: a potentially deep running into the month of January when it. 2485 01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:37,920 Speaker 1: Comes to sports in this state. As we go around 2486 01:55:37,960 --> 01:55:40,560 Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving table, we are very thankful for the one, 2487 01:55:40,680 --> 01:55:44,200 Speaker 1: the only, great great Straw that is abundantly true, and 2488 01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:46,720 Speaker 1: he is going to be a busy man in our 2489 01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:49,280 Speaker 1: ears and on our television sets coming up here over 2490 01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:52,120 Speaker 1: the next few days. Rake don'o, I'll see you later 2491 01:55:52,160 --> 01:55:54,240 Speaker 1: today at Colts, but if not, I'll certainly see you 2492 01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:55,760 Speaker 1: this weekend and see you on Sunday. 2493 01:55:56,720 --> 01:55:58,120 Speaker 7: All right, Thanks Bell, Let's see you later. 2494 01:55:58,360 --> 01:56:01,560 Speaker 1: A happy Thanksgiving great Greg Shaw. Right there, we'll do 2495 01:56:01,600 --> 01:56:04,600 Speaker 1: it one final time here Colts Texans pick. We'll round 2496 01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:04,880 Speaker 1: it out. 2497 01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:06,720 Speaker 4: Kevin Bell and James Boyd to Mark Dyton. 2498 01:56:08,120 --> 01:56:10,680 Speaker 1: A couple items to get to right here, Mark Dyton, 2499 01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:13,080 Speaker 1: let's go ahead of another four pack to Butler wrighte 2500 01:56:13,160 --> 01:56:16,640 Speaker 1: State coming up on saturd Day. Let's just go fast 2501 01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:18,640 Speaker 1: fingers three one seventy two three nine ten seventy. We 2502 01:56:18,720 --> 01:56:20,960 Speaker 1: had a text line earlier, We'll go fast fingers. That 2503 01:56:21,160 --> 01:56:24,400 Speaker 1: is a two o'clock tip Butler and Wright State from 2504 01:56:24,440 --> 01:56:28,360 Speaker 1: Hinkle four pack of tickets, a little Thanksgiving gift. I 2505 01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:31,480 Speaker 1: was talking with Scotty statistician Scotti shout out. 2506 01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:32,720 Speaker 4: Scotty brought it up. 2507 01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:38,280 Speaker 1: Yesterday, Heisman finalist. You know, we obviously feel Fernano Mendoza 2508 01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:40,920 Speaker 1: course will be one. I think Jeremiah Love has earned 2509 01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:43,800 Speaker 1: a finalist, so I think they will go to New 2510 01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:46,080 Speaker 1: York no matter what happens here. I was asked, in 2511 01:56:46,160 --> 01:56:49,040 Speaker 1: the last time the state of Indiana's produced two finalists, 2512 01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:54,000 Speaker 1: He's going nineteen eighty nine, Anthony Thompson the runner up, 2513 01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:58,240 Speaker 1: Tony Rice from Notre Dame finishing fourth that year. That 2514 01:56:58,280 --> 01:57:01,480 Speaker 1: would have been Andre where I threw at him. What 2515 01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:04,320 Speaker 1: about Purduing Notre Dame if you go back a little 2516 01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:06,440 Speaker 1: bit there, and it looks like he's found that out 2517 01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:09,800 Speaker 1: back in the sixties, He said, you had a couple 2518 01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:13,840 Speaker 1: of seasons sixty eight and sixty six Leroy Keys, Terry 2519 01:57:13,920 --> 01:57:17,840 Speaker 1: Hanratty purduing Notre Dame and then oj won that year 2520 01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:21,320 Speaker 1: and then sixty six Steve Spurrier won, Bob Greasy, Nick 2521 01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:27,560 Speaker 1: Eddy winning or second and third on that list. Soar 2522 01:57:27,640 --> 01:57:29,720 Speaker 1: Air is basically the first time since the year Kevin 2523 01:57:29,760 --> 01:57:31,760 Speaker 1: Bowen was born. Looks like we'll have it here in 2524 01:57:31,800 --> 01:57:35,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five of a state producing the state of 2525 01:57:35,680 --> 01:57:40,080 Speaker 1: Indiana producing two finals, rare air. Indeed, how much do 2526 01:57:40,080 --> 01:57:43,400 Speaker 1: you think team record matters? Because, like I said, the 2527 01:57:43,400 --> 01:57:52,240 Speaker 1: best player is Jeremiah Love. I think it should matter 2528 01:57:52,440 --> 01:57:55,400 Speaker 1: to a degree. But yes, Love is the best player 2529 01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:58,040 Speaker 1: in college football period. I thought Matt Weaver pointed out 2530 01:57:58,440 --> 01:58:01,280 Speaker 1: a really accurate statement earlier us it's not a very 2531 01:58:01,360 --> 01:58:04,760 Speaker 1: heismany year. You know, when you look at numbers like 2532 01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:07,600 Speaker 1: Travis Hunter, yeah, and Ashton Gentz put up last year, 2533 01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:10,520 Speaker 1: even quarterback wise, I thought I read somewhere I don't 2534 01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:13,600 Speaker 1: know if Mendoza is on pace to get there or not. Mark, 2535 01:58:13,640 --> 01:58:16,040 Speaker 1: will you look up how many passing yards Fronado Mendoza has? 2536 01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:20,520 Speaker 1: I thought I read somewhere where it could be the 2537 01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:23,200 Speaker 1: first time ever we don't have a three thousand yard 2538 01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:25,720 Speaker 1: passer win the Heisman. 2539 01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:30,120 Speaker 4: Now currently at two six and forty one. 2540 01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:34,000 Speaker 1: Six one. Well, I guess he's got two more games, 2541 01:58:34,040 --> 01:58:34,400 Speaker 1: but he's not. 2542 01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:38,040 Speaker 4: Ye he should so possibility he should. 2543 01:58:38,160 --> 01:58:40,800 Speaker 1: But you know, again we're used to college quarterbacks, but 2544 01:58:40,880 --> 01:58:44,480 Speaker 1: in up four thousand yards frankly for Heisman Trophy winners there, 2545 01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:48,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, that will be something also to keep an 2546 01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:51,200 Speaker 1: eye on. All right, let's give our picks Colts and 2547 01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:56,880 Speaker 1: Texans coming up here in week twelve. I'm rolling with 2548 01:58:56,960 --> 01:58:57,480 Speaker 1: the Colts. 2549 01:58:58,880 --> 01:59:01,040 Speaker 5: They're gonna get back on try against the number two 2550 01:59:01,120 --> 01:59:03,800 Speaker 5: scoring defense in the NFL and give it up about 2551 01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:04,800 Speaker 5: sixteen points a game. 2552 01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:08,160 Speaker 4: I'll say the Colts win twenty four to twenty. 2553 01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:12,400 Speaker 1: Mark dykedon. And by the way, the spread, I think 2554 01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:16,200 Speaker 1: it is three three and a half here to drop 2555 01:59:16,640 --> 01:59:18,840 Speaker 1: oh eight? Has it climbed? I thought it climbed. It 2556 01:59:18,880 --> 01:59:21,840 Speaker 1: could be wrong. I'm looking up right now. Yes, indeed, 2557 01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:25,960 Speaker 1: mark four and a half over unders forty four and 2558 01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:29,680 Speaker 1: a half there, So climbing spread favoring the Colts. 2559 01:59:30,280 --> 01:59:34,120 Speaker 2: Okay, so we said it the bye week. The level 2560 01:59:34,160 --> 01:59:36,240 Speaker 2: of difficulty in the schedule is going to ramp up. 2561 01:59:36,360 --> 01:59:38,960 Speaker 2: The Texans are getting CJ. Straudbeck, Nico Collins has torched 2562 01:59:39,000 --> 01:59:42,040 Speaker 2: them in the past. Houston defense is playing on another level. 2563 01:59:42,600 --> 01:59:45,000 Speaker 2: I'm growing concerned about this Colts offensive line. In Daniel 2564 01:59:45,080 --> 01:59:48,440 Speaker 2: Jones's play, I still think they split the season series 2565 01:59:48,880 --> 01:59:52,240 Speaker 2: with the Texans. However, I think Houston gets the edge 2566 01:59:52,320 --> 01:59:54,880 Speaker 2: on Sunday and the Colts dropped their third game in. 2567 01:59:54,920 --> 01:59:55,640 Speaker 1: The last four. 2568 01:59:56,160 --> 01:59:58,160 Speaker 2: Texans twenty seven Colts twenty three. 2569 01:59:58,280 --> 02:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Interest And the Colts have been much better at home 2570 02:00:03,080 --> 02:00:05,440 Speaker 1: this year. That's something that I want to point out. 2571 02:00:06,080 --> 02:00:08,240 Speaker 1: I think six points better at home than on the 2572 02:00:08,320 --> 02:00:11,160 Speaker 1: road this year. Better yard per carry team, better yard 2573 02:00:12,680 --> 02:00:15,560 Speaker 1: per attempt team. And I just think you have to 2574 02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:18,720 Speaker 1: stay away from the game wrecking moments. And if you 2575 02:00:18,800 --> 02:00:21,040 Speaker 1: can do that, I really think Will Anderson Junior and 2576 02:00:21,240 --> 02:00:23,920 Speaker 1: or Danil Hunter will have to single handedly make a 2577 02:00:24,120 --> 02:00:27,080 Speaker 1: seven point type of play for the Texans to pull 2578 02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:30,560 Speaker 1: that off. I'm gonna say twenty sixteen Colts. I really 2579 02:00:30,600 --> 02:00:33,920 Speaker 1: don't trust Houston's run dye and I still not sold 2580 02:00:34,000 --> 02:00:37,520 Speaker 1: on their offensive line. Now the Colts pass rush, that 2581 02:00:37,680 --> 02:00:40,440 Speaker 1: remains to be seen, but I think if you're able 2582 02:00:40,480 --> 02:00:43,560 Speaker 1: to let CJ. Stroud enough there, you're able to make 2583 02:00:43,640 --> 02:00:46,280 Speaker 1: some plays. But boy, if it went the way that 2584 02:00:46,400 --> 02:00:49,720 Speaker 1: Mark is saying, be quite the clinching. As we get 2585 02:00:49,760 --> 02:00:53,480 Speaker 1: back in studio here coming up on Monday reminder, the 2586 02:00:53,560 --> 02:00:57,760 Speaker 1: Colts responding from the Rams loss very emphatic, and that 2587 02:00:57,920 --> 02:00:59,800 Speaker 1: response was I think it was Raiders the very next 2588 02:01:00,520 --> 02:01:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, the Steelers loss that Falcons game easily could 2589 02:01:03,160 --> 02:01:06,160 Speaker 1: have gone the other way. But yeah, I'll go Colts 2590 02:01:06,320 --> 02:01:08,680 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, which I guess I am predicting the lowest 2591 02:01:08,720 --> 02:01:11,040 Speaker 1: score for the Colts and home game all season long. 2592 02:01:11,080 --> 02:01:14,640 Speaker 1: With that, I believe that they've scored twenty in all 2593 02:01:14,680 --> 02:01:17,480 Speaker 1: of their losses. So you're saying they're gonna score twenty 2594 02:01:17,560 --> 02:01:20,680 Speaker 1: in a win. Yes, twenty Their season low is on Sunday, 2595 02:01:20,760 --> 02:01:23,360 Speaker 1: right yep, Kansas City twenty nine is they're low at 2596 02:01:23,400 --> 02:01:27,360 Speaker 1: home this year. Iron Eagle JJ Watt on the call 2597 02:01:28,080 --> 02:01:31,360 Speaker 1: of this one again, still need concussion protocol clearance from CJ. Stroud, 2598 02:01:31,600 --> 02:01:33,200 Speaker 1: So I'll be something from a Houston side of it 2599 02:01:33,720 --> 02:01:36,560 Speaker 1: to keep in mind, and then we'll keep you updated. 2600 02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:39,600 Speaker 1: Coltswid So go walk through today, have an earlier practice 2601 02:01:39,680 --> 02:01:42,840 Speaker 1: tomorrow morning, go a little bit later on Friday, So 2602 02:01:43,000 --> 02:01:46,959 Speaker 1: just a little bit of juggling here with the Thanksgiving holiday. 2603 02:01:49,200 --> 02:01:51,920 Speaker 1: I will say, as far as entertainment value goes, we 2604 02:01:52,040 --> 02:01:53,280 Speaker 1: got some great games on the tap. 2605 02:01:53,720 --> 02:01:53,960 Speaker 3: Yep. 2606 02:01:54,880 --> 02:01:57,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a really good slate. I mean, Mark, 2607 02:01:57,200 --> 02:01:59,160 Speaker 1: I think your Bears might be involved in the Game 2608 02:01:59,200 --> 02:02:01,280 Speaker 1: of the Week Bears E coming up on Friday and 2609 02:02:01,280 --> 02:02:04,400 Speaker 1: the Eagles will banged up, right, Saekwon Barkley, Well, Iffy. 2610 02:02:04,360 --> 02:02:06,480 Speaker 2: They're a little banged up. They're in fighting a lot, 2611 02:02:06,600 --> 02:02:08,880 Speaker 2: and that offense has kind of been like here and there, 2612 02:02:09,080 --> 02:02:12,080 Speaker 2: So I don't know. Bears are banged up on defense 2613 02:02:12,120 --> 02:02:15,040 Speaker 2: big time, but we'll see what happens. I'm looking forward 2614 02:02:15,080 --> 02:02:16,880 Speaker 2: to that game more than I thought I would heading 2615 02:02:16,920 --> 02:02:17,480 Speaker 2: into the season. 2616 02:02:18,240 --> 02:02:21,480 Speaker 1: So again to try and layout, well, we've got here 2617 02:02:21,640 --> 02:02:25,920 Speaker 1: upcoming Pacers tonight seven thirty. Obviously the three Thanksgiving games 2618 02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:29,480 Speaker 1: Tomorrow Friday will have the odd classes. For the ISSA 2619 02:02:29,600 --> 02:02:33,440 Speaker 1: Football State Finals, you'll have Purdue basketball in action Friday 2620 02:02:33,440 --> 02:02:37,400 Speaker 1: afternoon at two, excuse me, noon, you'll have Butler and action. 2621 02:02:37,520 --> 02:02:40,120 Speaker 1: Friday afternoon at two. You'll have the Bucket game at 2622 02:02:40,200 --> 02:02:44,040 Speaker 1: seven point thirty. Shifting to Saturday, you'll have IU hoops 2623 02:02:44,240 --> 02:02:50,040 Speaker 1: at noon. On Saturday, Pacers Bulls coming up. Pacers will 2624 02:02:50,040 --> 02:02:52,720 Speaker 1: have two games Friday and Saturday, both at home, and 2625 02:02:52,800 --> 02:02:55,520 Speaker 1: of course we'll get you set nine o'clock with our 2626 02:02:55,560 --> 02:03:00,280 Speaker 1: coverage beginning on Sunday for the Colts and the Texans. Boys. 2627 02:03:00,320 --> 02:03:01,920 Speaker 1: Have a great Thanksgiving you as well. 2628 02:03:02,360 --> 02:03:04,920 Speaker 4: Same to you, Gobble Gobble, safe travels to both of you. 2629 02:03:05,040 --> 02:03:05,400 Speaker 7: Is that right? 2630 02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:08,160 Speaker 2: Yep, yez are going to see the family. Can't wait 2631 02:03:08,160 --> 02:03:10,080 Speaker 2: to deal with that traffic later today. That should be 2632 02:03:10,160 --> 02:03:14,000 Speaker 2: fun and obviously it's sincere. Safe travels everybody out there. 2633 02:03:14,360 --> 02:03:16,960 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving one of my favorite holidays, and I think the 2634 02:03:17,120 --> 02:03:19,920 Speaker 1: meaning of it certainly is a huge, huge reason why 2635 02:03:20,120 --> 02:03:22,280 Speaker 1: so very very thankful for a lot of things this 2636 02:03:22,360 --> 02:03:24,920 Speaker 1: time of year, So greatly appreciate that. Hope you can 2637 02:03:25,000 --> 02:03:28,560 Speaker 1: share in the celebration with family and friends. Safe travels, 2638 02:03:28,680 --> 02:03:31,000 Speaker 1: stay tuned us. We'll have your coverage all week and 2639 02:03:31,120 --> 02:03:34,160 Speaker 1: long on your various commutes. Everybody, have a great, great weekend. 2640 02:03:34,200 --> 02:03:34,600 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you