1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Lie from the heartlier and the crossroads of America. 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 3: We're going to show you an interview a little bit 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 3: later today with the President of Taiwan. 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 4: And of course Taiwan is very, very worried. 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 3: Right now about the possibility of China invading. They just 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 3: announced a plan to spend a lot more on their military. 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 4: I'm curious right now. 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 3: Whether you believe that if China were to invade Taiwan, 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 3: whether the US, given its strategic ambiguity policy, would come 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 3: to the rescue. 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 5: I don't answer hypotheticals. 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 3: That's a good way to stop us in our trunks. 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: But how should the folks in Taiwan think about their relationship? 15 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 4: Then they should think that it's unchanged. 16 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: And what does that mean? 17 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 5: That we are in a very good equilibrium, and that 18 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 5: you were starting with this, well, what if China invades tomorrow? 19 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 5: I have found that since I've come up on this side, 20 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 5: my least favorite word in journalism is could, because when 21 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 5: a journalist has no story, he said. 22 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 4: Well they could so. 23 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 3: But that's why Taiwan's spending all the money that they are, 24 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 3: That's why they're ringing in their hands. They're worried about 25 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: something that could happen, and they don't know whether we 26 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: are really an ally of theirs or not. 27 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 5: The United States is an ally of China. The relationship 28 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 5: remains unchanged of China, not Taiwan. Sorry you said of 29 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 5: China and Taiwan and Taiwan. Okay, the relationship remains unchanged. 30 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 6: That's Scott Besson's answering the question for Aaron Sorkin. 31 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: There over at a New York Times panel, And I 32 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: do agree. 33 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 6: I don't know why we're asking Scott Bessant the question 34 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 6: or what answer possibly could be given that would be 35 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 6: to any level or any degree earth shattering. Tony Katz, 36 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 6: Tony Kats today, good to be with you. Find everything 37 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 6: I do over at tonykats dot com. We should be 38 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 6: the friends of Taiwan, and we need to keep China 39 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 6: from engaging in what could only be described as a 40 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 6: whole bunch of stupidity. That makes perfect sense, And it 41 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 6: isn't for the Treasury Secretary to get involved in that conversation, 42 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 6: not in the slightest. Why would anybody expect him to, 43 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 6: Why would anybody want them to? Now, if you're the 44 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 6: person asking the question, you're the person asking the question, right, 45 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 6: you gotta ask what you gotta ask. 46 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 2: Maybe I was once in. 47 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 6: The press box for the Indianapolis Colts. I've told this 48 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 6: story before, the true story about how I got thrown 49 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 6: out of the press box, how they my credentials over 50 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 6: there at the Colts. The person who did it is 51 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 6: now gone. I have no ill will towards the team, 52 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 6: towards management, none whatsoever. But there was was it an 53 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 6: admiral in in the Colts press box or it was 54 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 6: an Air Force general, I don't remember which one it was. 55 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 6: And I asked a question. This was during the days 56 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 6: of Obama, and I asked a question of him regarding 57 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 6: a military build up. He's and people are like, no, no, 58 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 6: he's here to talk about how the military is working 59 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 6: with the NFL. He's an He's an admiral. I don't 60 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 6: even remember the rank right now. It was a long 61 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 6: time ago. 62 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: I said. The point of the story is that they 63 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: need to. 64 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 6: Be able to answer the question about something regarding the military, 65 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 6: even if they say I don't want to answer that 66 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 6: question right now. It's an okay question to ask member 67 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 6: of the military, are we engaging in a military build 68 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 6: up for X Y or z reason totally fine, and 69 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 6: I for that lost my press credentials. 70 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: That's a true story. 71 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 6: The next week I came to sit in the in 72 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 6: the there in the press box. 73 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: I was trying to learn the cultures. 74 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 6: It was first to Indianapolis, trying to learn the team, 75 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 6: trying to learn how people engage, get some history. I 76 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 6: wasn't allowed back in. That's a true story, so help 77 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 6: me goodness right. So sometimes you got to ask the question, 78 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 6: no matter what, you got to ask the question. Let 79 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 6: the chips fall where they may. But why should anybody 80 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 6: expect some kind of answer from Scott Bessen, the Treasury Secretary, 81 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 6: other than what he gave. I was trying to remember 82 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 6: the name of the admiral. I was trying to look 83 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 6: it up and I can't. I can't find it right now. 84 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 6: I will, I'll find I'll remember it. I'll bring it 85 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 6: to you. The story is, what is the Pacific Rim 86 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 6: doing about China? If China invades Taiwan, is the United 87 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 6: States going to be there? Joe Biden had said yes. 88 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 6: It was one of the few moments I was like, 89 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 6: my gosh, Joe Biden with a very very definitive answer. 90 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 7: Here. 91 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 2: It was early on in the presidency Boom. Yes. 92 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 6: Now, other people and other answers clouded that a little bit. 93 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: But it was a yes. 94 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 6: It was clear, and I do believe that the United 95 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 6: States should be there if China should come a knocking. 96 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:32,559 Speaker 6: That's why I appreciate this move from Japan so much. 97 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 6: Putting missiles near Taiwan has China up in arms, But 98 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 6: who cares if China's up in arms. They're up in 99 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 6: arms about everything, which is why there's no need to 100 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 6: answer a question that's going to create more up in arms. 101 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense at all at all. 102 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 6: You don't engage with rocking the boat until you know 103 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 6: what it is you're rocking and what could come from it. 104 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 6: There's no value in it. It doesn't make any sense. 105 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 6: So Besson is right not to engage here. But when 106 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 6: we talk about what these possibilities are, we see what's 107 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 6: happening in Venezuela. You talk about the conversation with Taiwan. 108 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 6: Why is the American media and why is the American 109 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 6: media helping the Democratic Party? Why is the Democratic Party 110 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 6: so hell bent on trying to get the military not 111 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 6: to respond to the commander in chief. 112 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: Senator, thank you for coming on the show. 113 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 8: What are some of the questions that you will want 114 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 8: answers to from Admiral Broadlay tomorrow. 115 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 7: I'm going to want to get answers on what did 116 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 7: pete ath order? Why haven't we seen the whole unedited video? 117 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 7: If there's nothing inappropriate here, you could have cleared this 118 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 7: up without the admiral coming in. He's got a great reputation. 119 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 7: I respect him. I want to get the truth and 120 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 7: I'm not sure we've had the truth heg SAF yet. Remember, 121 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 7: this is an administration that has treated the uniformed military 122 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 7: with unprecedented disrespect when they were all brought to get 123 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 7: a pep rally in front of HEGSAFF and Trump. This 124 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 7: is an administration that's fired, you know, uniform generals, from 125 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 7: the head of the NSA, the head of the Fense 126 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 7: Intelligence Agency. And I think in many ways the uniform 127 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 7: military mate helped save us from this president and his 128 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 7: lame people like hegg SAF because I think their commitment 129 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 7: is to the Constitution and obviously not the Trump and 130 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 7: I expect Bradley to adhere to that. 131 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 6: He's talking about Admiral Bradley talking about the hitting of 132 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 6: these Venezuelan and drug boats and what they're referring to 133 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 6: as this double tap, coming back and hitting one of 134 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 6: the drug boats again, this again. I don't mind you 135 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 6: calling Admiral Bradley in front of a committee, Senator Mark 136 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 6: Warner there of Virginia. I don't mind you asking questions. 137 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 6: A zero issue with that whatsoever. 138 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: But wait till you find out how many times. 139 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 6: Our military has hit a target and then gone back 140 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,679 Speaker 6: to hit the target again to make sure everybody's dead. 141 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: Those videos exist everywhere. 142 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 6: What you're alluding to is the idea that somehow first 143 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 6: Trumps treated the military poorly. Heg seth has You didn't 144 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 6: like the rally right the gathering of it. He called 145 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 6: it a rally of these generals and admirals to say, hey, 146 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 6: we've got physical fitness standards. 147 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: We've got this standard, we've got that standard, we're upholding it. 148 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 2: You didn't like that. Who cares what you like. 149 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 6: Senator, You're a wimp. I don't care if you served 150 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 6: in the military. I don't care if your uncle did. 151 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 6: It doesn't matter. A sit down to say here's how 152 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 6: we do it is fine. Now you can argue you 153 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 6: didn't have to have the sit down. You could just 154 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 6: put the order out. You didn't need to have the 155 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 6: whole dog and pony show, okay, But if you had 156 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 6: just put the order out of Pete Heggsett, the Secretary. 157 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: Of War, Secretary of Defense, however you want to say it. 158 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 6: Had just put the order out, you would have said, 159 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 6: how dare you? There's no world in which you Mark 160 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 6: Warner would have been okay with anything, because Democratic Party 161 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 6: is never okay with anything, including the idea of standards. 162 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 6: You have to have a strength standard, you have to 163 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 6: have a physical fitness standard, and some of us aren't 164 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 6: gonna be able to make that standard. 165 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 2: Some people are. And that's that. And the idea that we. 166 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 6: Are pushing more towards lethality and saying that this is 167 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 6: a core tenet of our military good, that's excellent news. 168 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 6: So what's the argument some general, some admiral, some two 169 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 6: star got a little bent out of shape because they 170 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 6: got treated this way. 171 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 2: I don't care. 172 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 6: I don't care, and I would go a step further, 173 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 6: Senator Warner, why do you care? Why do you care? 174 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 6: We have seen failure from the military in ways that 175 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 6: we shouldn't. Why do we think that the leadership that 176 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 6: was there is the best leadership. 177 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: The only leadership. 178 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 6: Going back to the question we've been asking from the beginning, 179 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 6: from the days of Doge, which I would still want, 180 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 6: I still do want. When we talk about institutions, does 181 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 6: the institution exist. 182 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: For the value it provides the citizenry? 183 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 6: Or does the institution exist for the sake of the 184 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 6: institution existing? That's the question, that's the entirety of the question. 185 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 6: For what reason does the institution exist? The military exists 186 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 6: not to be an instrument of social change. It exists 187 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 6: to kill the enemy dead. That's why it exists. Now, 188 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 6: someone may be offended by that, upset by that, bothered 189 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 6: by that, but none of that bothers me. That's all 190 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 6: completely inconsequential, completely inconsequential. 191 00:10:53,559 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 2: What matters. The only thing that matters is that we 192 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: have a military that's ready to go. 193 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 6: We have troop readiness, because we might need that troop 194 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 6: readiness in Venezuela, off the coast of Venezuela, or off 195 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 6: the coast of Taiwan, in the Taiwan straight who knows 196 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 6: where we're going to need it. But that was only 197 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 6: part one of what Mark Warner said. Here was the 198 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 6: part of it, at least the part two. 199 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 7: Uniform generals, from the head of the NSA, the head 200 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 7: of the Defense Intelligence Agency. And I think in many 201 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 7: ways the uniform military mate helped save us from this 202 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 7: president and his lame people like hagsaff because I think 203 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 7: their commitment is to the Constitution and obviously not the 204 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 7: Trump and I expect Bradley to adhere to that. 205 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 6: This is a takeoff of Senator Mark Kelly saying you 206 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 6: don't have to listen to illegal orders. 207 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: This is them. 208 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 6: Again pushing this idea that you don't have to listen 209 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 6: to the commander in chief. How many more ways are 210 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 6: they going to show you that they are trying to gauge. 211 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 2: Of coup here? Why can't we call it that? Why 212 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: shouldn't we call it that? Of course it's a coup. 213 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: We don't know this. 214 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 6: We're gonna somehow pretend that it isn't happening. It is 215 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 6: totally happening right in front of our eyes. We have 216 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 6: multiple members of the United States Senate, in the United 217 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 6: States House of Representatives, so called elected officials, working against 218 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 6: the interests of the United States. You're trying to usurp 219 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 6: the commander in chief and the chain of command. 220 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: Rational people, you know what I wouldn't even say. 221 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 6: Rational layman like myself in the case of the military, 222 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 6: would call that treasonous. Now, some people would say, actually, 223 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 6: that's sedition. Some people would say, no, actually it's this 224 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 6: or that or the I will let. 225 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 2: People on the technical come to me with the tony. 226 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: This is the actual technical. 227 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 6: Term for those of us sitting around on the barstool 228 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 6: drinking a bourbon. It's treasonous, it's despicable, it's disgusting. 229 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: And if you think I'm gonna let these people just 230 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 2: claim power in the mid term elections, you're out of 231 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 2: your head. 232 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 6: And if I were you, I'd be thinking the same 233 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 6: exact way. 234 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: If you think I woulda let these people. 235 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 6: Take over a country, they're trying to usurp the president 236 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 6: of the United States, and they're doing it proudly, like 237 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 6: they have a. 238 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: Story to tell. 239 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 6: Dear Lord, you think these people could help Taiwan, You 240 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 6: think these people could help us? These people would continue 241 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 6: to let drugs to flow into the country. These people 242 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 6: wouldn't even secure the border. They wouldn't even recognize there's 243 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 6: a problem at the border. And if you were to 244 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 6: recognize a problem at the border or a problem with 245 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 6: drug running, or a problem with, for example, Somali nationals 246 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 6: fleecing American citizens out of billions of dollars. They would 247 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 6: just call you a racist and move on. No, no, no, no, 248 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 6: under Warner is disqualifying himself here. 249 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: What honor? What dignity? Does this man think that he has? None? Zero? 250 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 6: And we should be asking him? Would the military not 251 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 6: be listening to the chain of command? That's the question. 252 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: Scott Bessant is more. 253 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 6: Within his rights and did the right thing by not 254 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 6: answering the question there at this panel for The New 255 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 6: York Times. 256 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 2: He was right not to answer the question because there's 257 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 2: nothing he can answer. 258 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 6: There's no change. That's what the Secretary of Treasury should say. 259 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 6: But we're not gonna ask center of Mark Warner. Why 260 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 6: is it that you're trying to usup the commander achieved 261 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 6: and disrupt the chain of command? Why do you think 262 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 6: some corporal somewhere can decide whether an order is legal? 263 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 6: Why are you putting it into the minds of Americans 264 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 6: this lie that somehow the military is being treated unfairly, 265 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 6: with zero proof whatsoever. Because Hegseth called a meeting for 266 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 6: some generals. Do you know how many of us in 267 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 6: America get called to bullcrap meetings every single day. 268 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: It's part of the gig kitting. 269 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 6: You got a boss, the boss wants to have a meeting, 270 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 6: You're gonna sit through a whole line of crap, do you, 271 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 6: Senator Warner, do you imagine or can you imagine how 272 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 6: your staff feels when you call a meeting. Oh, I 273 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 6: gotta sit through this with this guy I got. I 274 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 6: wonder if Senator Schumer has any openings. I know I 275 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 6: won't be in the Senate long, but it's gotta be 276 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 6: better than this. The generals are upset, Let them be upset. 277 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 6: I'm upset that we spent twenty years in Afghanistan have 278 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 6: zero to show for it, and the military we allegedly 279 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 6: trained fell apart in eleven days. Oh and that Joe 280 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 6: Biden got thirteen members of the US military killed with 281 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 6: that crap withdrawal from Afghanistan at Abbey Gate. Yeah, don't 282 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 6: tell me the generals are upset by a meeting. 283 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: Don't give a damn. 284 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 6: Tell them to put on the uniform, shine it up 285 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 6: really pretty, sit there and take it. Because we need 286 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 6: a better military and this is what we voted for. 287 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 6: And for the record, I don't think Pete Hegseth is perfect. 288 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 6: And I think that there are some real issues going 289 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 6: on out there, things that I'm here, things that are 290 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 6: gonna start coming up about. You know, there's a difference 291 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 6: between enlisted and officers and how people are treated, and 292 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 6: how we engage and how we want these things to work, 293 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 6: and certainly a level of readiness on more than just 294 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 6: the idea of physical fitness and the conversation of lethality. 295 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 6: I think these are good conversations and instilling this matters, 296 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 6: but you do need some of the other stuff as well. 297 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 6: And I'm hearing some things are falling through the cracks 298 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 6: and lacking. I think that's a fine conversation. Saying that 299 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 6: the military shouldn't listen to the president, I think that 300 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 6: means we should remove the senator from his office. I 301 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 6: think that is something that we on the layman's side 302 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 6: would refer to as treasonus. I think that Senator Mark 303 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 6: Warner and Senator Mark Kelly and Senator Lissa slock In 304 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 6: and all the rest should be ashamed of themselves and 305 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 6: should resign, and we should be proactive in ensuring they 306 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 6: don't win reelection. 307 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:54,479 Speaker 2: Vote for better people who at least believe. 308 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 6: That the elected representatives like the president, should be able 309 00:16:58,440 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 6: to lead. 310 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Cats, and this is Tony Katz today. 311 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 9: Over the next two, three, four years, those numbers that 312 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 9: we go up, and I believe that at some point 313 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 9: in the not too distant future, you won't even. 314 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: Have income tax to pay it because the money would 315 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: take it in is so great. 316 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 9: It's so enormous that you're not gonna have income tax 317 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 9: to pay. Whether you get rid of it or just 318 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 9: keep it around for fun, or have it really low, 319 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 9: much lower than it is now, but you won't be 320 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 9: paying income tax. We've slashed one trillion dollars in costly 321 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 9: job killing regulations, saving Americans. 322 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 6: And I very much like sirh the killing of cost 323 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 6: cost reductions in killing regulations. 324 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: I love that. 325 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 6: But if you're gonna tell me tariffs are gonna replace 326 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 6: the income tax, why would I keep the income tax? 327 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: Are out for fun? 328 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 6: Tony Kats, Tony Kats today, Good to be here, Good 329 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 6: to be with you find everything I. 330 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 2: Do over at Tony kats dot com. 331 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 6: That was from the Cabinet meeting yesterday, and tariff's to replace, 332 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 6: as very McKinley thought. I think it is replace, saying 333 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 6: income taxes with tariffs. I'm up for the conversation. I 334 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 6: am that if we're going to replace, that's fine. But 335 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 6: there's no room for the income tax. The income tax 336 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 6: is offensive. The idea that government has any right to 337 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 6: my labor is nonsense. 338 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: It's an affront. 339 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 6: The income tax has never done an ounce of good 340 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 6: since it was implemented in nineteen thirteen. It has only 341 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 6: divided people. It's been utilized to engage class warfare. It 342 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 6: is wrong on every level, and it should be obliterated, 343 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 6: absolutely gone. 344 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 2: So I'm down with that. 345 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 6: But when he was in the cabinet meeting and he 346 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 6: was asked about you know, affordability is like affordability as 347 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 6: a hoax, something the Democrats made up. 348 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: Man, that's just a miss. That's a miss. It's the 349 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 2: wrong thing to say. He's not right. 350 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 6: We need to bring down prices, and we've done it 351 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 6: here here, here, here, and here and here. And then 352 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 6: he got into you know, energy prices. Everything comes from energy, 353 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 6: and that's absolutely true. It's a good talking point. And 354 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 6: we've got this coming and coming working on this and 355 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 6: everybody's been doing great and these costs are better. We're 356 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 6: gonna see more costs better soon. We're digging out of 357 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 6: that big hold Biden put us in. And here are 358 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 6: the steps we've taken, and here's the result so far. 359 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 6: That's the way you do it. It's a hoax. He 360 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 6: loves the word hoax. 361 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 2: Don't do that to people. You want to turn people off. 362 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 2: You keep doing that, mister President. 363 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 6: Don't tell them they have to agree with you or 364 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 6: understand you. 365 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 2: You are very good at understanding them, So do it. 366 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 6: Understand them, don't call the high cost of things, which 367 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 6: they are, a hoax. Tell them what you're doing to 368 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 6: make it better, and then show them results. 369 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: Keep it here. 370 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 6: I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Katz today. So 371 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 6: I got to tell you yesterday was a weird day 372 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 6: because I was very struck by two things that took place, 373 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 6: and they involved Laura Lumer. I know what is happening 374 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 6: around here, Tony Katz, Tony kats today, Good to be 375 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 6: with you. If you ask me if I think Laura 376 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 6: Lumer is just nuts. 377 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: The answer is yes. 378 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 6: She has shown herself not to be somebody who is hinged, 379 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 6: but someone who is nutty, someone who goes down these 380 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 6: rabbit holes to a point of exhaustion. It's not followable 381 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 6: and it's not necessarily rational. She's handcuffing herself to buildings. 382 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 6: Regarding Twitter, it seemed like performance aren't more than anything else. 383 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: Yet she continues to hang around. 384 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 6: If you want to talk about dogged Man, she's right 385 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 6: there with it for sure. And she's now put herself 386 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 6: in a place where you know, a whole bunch of 387 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 6: people who report from the. 388 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,239 Speaker 2: Pentagon they didn't like Pete Heigsa's. 389 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 6: New rules, and so they're like, we're gonna turn in 390 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 6: our credentials and we're not gonna report on the Pentagon. 391 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 6: And they were like bofeley sh They didn't care, didn't 392 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 6: matter to the Pentagon at all. Well, this has opened 393 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 6: up room, and now you've got in the press briefing 394 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 6: yesterday from the Pentagon, you had Laura Lumer and Matt Gates. 395 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 6: I'm really not a fan of Matt Gates. You may be, 396 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 6: I am not. I'm glad he is not the Attorney General. 397 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 6: Although I'm disappointed in Pam Bonding, I am a lot 398 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 6: of other members I'm very very happy with of the cabinet. 399 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 6: Not so much Pam BONDI, but Laura Lumoer's in there, 400 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 6: and it's really interesting because the question she asked is 401 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 6: about Qatar, and then it ties in to an Indiana Congressman, 402 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 6: a Republican by the name of Marlon Stutsman. 403 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, I know Marlon Stutsman, so. 404 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 6: I had him on my morning show to kind of 405 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 6: answer some questions here. But this part was first, this 406 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 6: question that was asked to the Pentagon spokesperson from Laura Lumer, 407 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 6: A very good question. 408 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 10: Indeed, yes, Laura, thanks so much for having me here today. 409 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 10: Now that the President has started the process of designating 410 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 10: the Muslim Brotherhood as a horn islameteris so we're going iation, 411 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 10: will the Department of War still proceed with selling fifteen 412 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 10: fighter jets to Qatar? And how will they be able 413 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 10: to train Katari pilots at their airbase and Idaho if 414 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 10: Qatar is included in the designation. 415 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 6: It's an unbelievably good question because Qatar is getting treated 416 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 6: with kid gloves by the administration, something I disagree with 417 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 6: in great measure. 418 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 2: But then it was Laura Lumer. 419 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 6: She reported that there were members of Congress and influencers 420 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 6: who spent their Thanksgiving in Qatar. 421 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 2: I said that's odd. 422 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 6: One of those people she mentioned was Congressman Marlon Sucksman 423 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 6: of the Indiana Third He joins us right now, Congressman, 424 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 6: I appreciate you taking. 425 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 2: The time to be with us. 426 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 6: I do want to get into the redistricting conversation, as 427 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 6: that has past committee in Indiana. 428 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 2: But you're on record. 429 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 6: You're on record about concerns with guitar return in regards 430 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 6: to terrorism. I absolutely believe Qatar has been a supporter 431 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 6: of terrorism, and I do not like this approach from 432 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 6: the White House in the slightest. So let's start with 433 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 6: how did you end up in guitar for Thanksgiving? 434 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 8: Well, good morning, Tony. Great to be with you. You know, 435 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 8: a couple of things because I was over in Israel 436 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 8: earlier this year and had a great conversation with the 437 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 8: Prime Minister Benjaminett and Yahoo and we're talking obviously about 438 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 8: the situation in Gaza and how it relates to you know, 439 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 8: the hostages at that time still had not been returned, 440 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 8: and I asked, you know, like what you know, what's 441 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 8: going on with the players in the region, And there 442 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 8: were a lot of questions around Qatar being one of 443 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 8: the countries that was in direct negotiations with Hamas, you know, 444 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 8: and I've learned a lot as well to Tony that 445 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 8: you know, I understand in the context of well, how 446 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 8: did Katar and Hamas get connected? And so I went 447 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 8: back and started doing some history and you know, reading 448 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 8: a little bit, and you know, Obama had asked Katar 449 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 8: to house Hamas in Qatars so that way they knew 450 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 8: where they were at and could keep an eye on them. 451 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 8: And then there were some negotiations between Israel and Qatar 452 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 8: related to Hamas and in Gaza and how it connected 453 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 8: to the Palace and in authority and so obviously, you know, 454 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 8: we know this is a very complicated region. But the 455 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 8: opportunity came, they asked. 456 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 2: If I would be come over and visit. 457 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 8: But I also I wanted to visit troops over Thanksgiving, 458 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 8: and so that was the main. 459 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: Objective of the trip, was to. 460 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 8: Visit the Aludid Air Force base there on the in 461 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 8: the middle of the country where we have a very 462 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 8: large air force base. And so being able to visit 463 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 8: the troops was a real treat. So proud of our 464 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 8: men and women in uniform. They serve a very important 465 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 8: role right there in Qatar. But I wanted to also 466 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 8: hear from the Qatari ministers of Defense and Finance and 467 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 8: also the Prime minister. You know why why Hamas? 468 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 2: What's going on? 469 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 8: And this is something that they were very instrumental in 470 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 8: negotiating the release of the hostages and the peace deal. 471 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 2: So you know, sometimes we can also agree. 472 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 6: We can also agree that Qatar has housed the Hamas 473 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 6: leadership with their billions of dollars while the people in 474 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 6: Gaza suffer at Hamas's hands. Is really engaged in the 475 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 6: attack on guitar and that has led the White House, 476 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 6: I think to an improper reaction on Qatar. Is it 477 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 6: your belief that Hamas supports, engages, endorses the Muslim brotherhood. 478 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: That's what we're trying to find out. 479 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 8: This is you know Ryan Zinky, who's former Navy seal, 480 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 8: Abehammaday former Army served in the army, and Laurel Lee 481 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 8: was along, she's a former prosecutor, and that's what we 482 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 8: all are trying to understand. And you know what I mean, 483 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 8: We're not going to endorse Qatar. I mean, this is 484 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 8: a country that is really playing both sides. You know, 485 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 8: they're talking to Iran, they're talking to the Taliban, they 486 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 8: talked to Qatar or. 487 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 2: To the to Hamas, of course, and Hamas is in. 488 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 8: Qatar when Israel struck Qatar with the missile strike. 489 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: Earlier this year. And one of the things that they. 490 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 8: Told us, and you know, they were very much wanting 491 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 8: us to understand, hey, we're the negotiators. We're the ones 492 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 8: that try to help bring both sides together. That's why 493 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 8: we have Hamas here, That's why we talked to the Taliban. 494 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 2: We're negotiators. That's the role we want to play. 495 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 8: And they kept reminding us, Hey, you got to remember, 496 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 8: we got hit by Iran by a missile after the 497 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 8: Twelve Day War. 498 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: We also got hit by Israel. 499 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 8: So we understand that, you know, they're saying they understand 500 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 8: the role that they play. But at the end of 501 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 8: the day, and this is what's really important, is that 502 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 8: they cannot be supporting terrorism. And the other piece that 503 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 8: we wanted to find out is are you funding education 504 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 8: systems in the United States that are pushing any. 505 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 2: Sort of anti Semitic message? 506 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 8: And that's another really important piece that we don't want 507 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 8: to see funding coming from outside sources that would influence 508 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 8: our education system in the wrong way. 509 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 6: Talking to you Thomas and Marlin Stu's with this district 510 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 6: of Indiana. We know that Qatar has been a massive 511 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 6: supporter of universities, and I do believe we should be 512 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 6: pushing legislation to end the ability of foreign nations to 513 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 6: support US universities. If the university can't live without it, 514 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 6: the university shouldn't exist, Sir. We also know that Qatar 515 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 6: has repeatedly been engaged with the idea, and it was 516 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 6: certainly accused of their support of the Muslim Brotherhood. But 517 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 6: Lumer's question certainly is a good one. How do we 518 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 6: feel about the training of Kataris in Idaho or any 519 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 6: place else on US hardware? 520 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 8: Yeah, well they are again. You know, this is my 521 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 8: first time there. From what I understand is they want 522 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 8: a relationship with. 523 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 2: The United States. And this is what something surprised me. 524 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 8: I didn't realize, you know, kind of forgot about the 525 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 8: blockade that happened back in twenty seventeen eighteen by the Saudis, 526 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 8: by the Egyptians and the UAE. They put a blockade, 527 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 8: you know, the Qatar is a little thumb that sticks 528 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 8: up off the Saudi Peninsula and basically and then was 529 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 8: accusing Katar of terrorism. Well, they basically were cut off 530 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 8: from food and other supplies, and that was really in 531 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 8: their psyche that I could tell that they felt almost like, hey, 532 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 8: we thought all of our friends here in the neighborhood, 533 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 8: we were all on the same team. And there's a 534 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 8: lot of politics in that region. As you know that 535 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 8: they you can't always trust them. You've got to watch 536 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 8: their actions more than anything. And that's what I've said 537 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 8: about all these guys is that you know, actions speak 538 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 8: louder than words. Well, they took it upon themselves to 539 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 8: build their own dairies, which actually we tell America's a 540 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 8: lot of American farmers sell them. Hey feed, they are 541 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 8: buying supplies from the United States. That's why the Air 542 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 8: Force base is where it's at. So I'm trying to 543 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 8: look at it from Okay, they're afraid of their own 544 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 8: neighbors in the area, So now they're coming to the 545 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 8: United States and saying, look, we want to be partners 546 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 8: and friends. Well, if you want to do that, then 547 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 8: let's make sure there's no funding going to our education 548 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 8: system that is doing the wrong you know, it is 549 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 8: sending the wrong message to our kids about Israel. Let's 550 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 8: make sure that you guys aren't funding the Muslim Brotherhood. 551 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 8: Let's deal with Hamas. Let's get Jamas out of there 552 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 8: or destroyed if they're going to continue to be a 553 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 8: problem in the region or in Gaza. So this is 554 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 8: a time for them to choose which side they're going 555 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 8: to be on. 556 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 2: You know, they're. 557 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 8: Helping with the situation within Gaza. Let's say, okay, we're 558 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 8: willing and work more like Saudi rather than Iran in 559 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 8: the region. 560 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 6: In a one word answer, sir, because I do want 561 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 6: to ask about redistricting. 562 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: If Qatar is giving financial. 563 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 6: Support as is alleged, I have same with Turkey to 564 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 6: the Muslim Brotherhood. Do you believe the United States should 565 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 6: cut off relationship cut off their relationship with Katar. 566 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 8: Yes, yes, yes, I mean if they're supporting terrorism in 567 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 8: the Muslim Brotherhood, that is that's just a deal breaker. 568 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 8: I mean, that's what has to be message to them, 569 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 8: and that's when we message to them when we were there. 570 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: Let me get to the follow up the trip itself. 571 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: Who paid for the trip? So it's it's a United 572 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: States based organization. It's called the US Katari Business Council. 573 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: There's a lot of business. In fact, they were actually 574 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: visiting Indiana. They you know, as I talked to different folks, 575 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: they they love Indiana. They were there at home visiting 576 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: with Governor Holcombs several years ago. 577 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:21,719 Speaker 2: We uh. 578 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,479 Speaker 8: They of course are buying a lot of planes from 579 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 8: Boeing in Qatar. The US are the Katari airways that 580 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 8: they have built out. It's impressive. I'll tell you that 581 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 8: that Tony. They have so much money there. They're building 582 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 8: out in International City in Doha. They're buying, you know, 583 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 8: I'm not sure how many, probably a couple of hundred 584 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 8: planes from Boeing, which is a massive and you know, 585 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 8: purchase from the United States. They are also investing. President 586 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 8: Trump when he visited there, got an investment close to 587 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 8: a trillion dollars from them. And I think that this 588 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 8: is what is important, is that they have to choose 589 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 8: are they going to be friends with the United. 590 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 2: States or somebody else. 591 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 6: Sorry about that, just a little interference from the studio. 592 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 6: My apologies talking to Congressman Marlin Stutsman. Let me while 593 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 6: I have this moment and I apologize for that. Just 594 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 6: really quick. On redistricting, why I've got sixty seconds it 595 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 6: passes committee. You've seen the map do you like the 596 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 6: map and do you favor with a full on vote 597 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 6: to redistrict the state of Indiana. 598 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 2: I do. I like the map. 599 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 8: I like the fact that this is a you know, 600 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 8: we're fighting the left in California, in Illinois, in New York. Look, Tony, 601 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 8: these guys have been doing the Democrats have been playing 602 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 8: politics for years, and we've got to understand that we 603 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 8: need equal representation in Washington, DC. We're out here fighting 604 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 8: socialist Democrats. I mean, look at mom Donnie in New 605 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 8: York and his campaign that he just won. I mean, 606 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 8: these guys are full on socialists. And we've got to 607 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 8: realize in Indiana that what we do there affects the 608 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 8: I mean it not just affects Indiana, it affects the 609 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 8: country right now, because we're in this fight to protect 610 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 8: the freedom and the liberty and the constitution that we 611 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 8: have in our great country. And so I would just 612 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 8: you know, ask every state legislator to really understand the 613 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 8: fight that we're in. It's this is not just about precedence. 614 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 8: This is not just about the you know, the maps 615 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 8: as they are drawn and that they should look a 616 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 8: certain way on a coloring book. They these are serious 617 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 8: fights that we're in and President Trump took a bullet 618 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 8: for us. We need to understand what he has been 619 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 8: through because the left tried to stop him and literally 620 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 8: taking his life. And of course you know Charlie Kirk 621 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 8: was assassinated. 622 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: The left is. 623 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 8: Unhinged and the only way we win it is sticking together. 624 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 8: This is a team effort. This is Republicans sticking together. 625 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 8: Republicans stick together, we win. And we always talk about 626 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 8: how Democrats they always stick together and that's why they win. 627 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 2: Republicans we need to do the same thing. This is 628 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 2: an important time for our country. 629 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 6: Congressman Marlon Stutsman of the Indiana their district, I please 630 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 6: you taking the time to be with us more to 631 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 6: get to I'm Tony Katz. 632 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today. 633 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 11: This is Hennebon County Attorney Mary Moriarty. There reports that 634 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 11: the Trump administration is planning to send ICE agents Cheer 635 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 11: to the Twin Cities to target our neighbors of Somali descent. 636 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 11: This is part of a recent pattern to single out 637 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 11: our Somali community members. This is rooted in the idea 638 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 11: that if they spew hatred, it will divide us. 639 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 6: Are you the same attorney, Minnesota attorney, Hennepin County attorney, 640 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 6: who knew that there were these illegal activities going on 641 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 6: with members of the Somali community and did absolutely nothing 642 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 6: for fear of being called the racist. 643 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 2: I am just asking. 644 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 6: I would like to know the answer, Tony Kats. Tony 645 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 6: Katz today, good to be with you. I do not 646 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 6: believe in this idea of temporary protected status that simply 647 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 6: lasts for forever. I think that the conversation of you're 648 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 6: going to take a whole community and attack them for 649 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 6: the acts of some is indeed. 650 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 2: Something that we should say. 651 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 6: I don't know if we want to be those people, 652 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 6: but the idea that nothing should happen and those people 653 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 6: who've engage in a legal activity are here illegally should 654 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 6: somehow be rewarded or allowed to stay is nonsense. And 655 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 6: if it wasn't the Somali community, you'd be saying that 656 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 6: somehow ice is wrong and we're not going to work 657 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 6: with Immigrations and Customs enforcement on something else. So I'm 658 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 6: not so interested in what the Hennepin County attorney wants 659 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 6: to say here. 660 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 2: But we won't let that happen. 661 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 11: There are no woving gangs of Smali people in this community, harassing, threatening, 662 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 11: doing anything to any of our community members. Let me 663 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 11: repeat that again because I've heard this often. There are 664 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 11: no woving gangs of Somali's targeting or harassing or doing 665 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 11: anything inappropriate to any community members. 666 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,240 Speaker 6: Those are I certainly hope it stays that way, because 667 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 6: the minute that happens, or the minut and someone can 668 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 6: say no, wait, it has happened, they're going to look 669 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 6: at you and go huh, and you're going to say, well, 670 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 6: that's just racist to point that out. I am not 671 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 6: making the argument that every Somali national is a threat, 672 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 6: and I haven't made that argument. I am making the 673 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 6: argument that there is an issue here, and I do 674 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 6: ask the question about whether not certain societies are culturally 675 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 6: compatible with Western civilization. And if you've missed my conversation 676 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 6: with Noah Rofman, his argument is anybody is compatible with 677 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 6: the American society if they buy in. But indeed it 678 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 6: is the American left that is making the buy in 679 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 6: more difficult. And my question therefore is what does one 680 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 6: do about that? Because the American left is not going 681 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 6: anywhere anytime soon. As I have stated, the only way 682 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 6: out is through when you're talking about people who are 683 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 6: clearly Marxists, and what do you do in the meantime 684 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 6: with who is in the country. 685 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 2: Well, first you prosecute. 686 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 6: The people who stole from the people in Minnesota, and then. 687 00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 2: We talk from there. 688 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 6: Find out a thing at Tony Kotts dot com tomorrow, 689 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 6: every want to take care