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Speaker 1: Live from vall Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. So we hit a massive AMMO depot

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Speaker 1: in Iran. We hit it with a bunker Buster.

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Speaker 2: Now we're hearing that we've deployed the B two bombers

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Speaker 2: over Iran for the first time, which means that Iran

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Speaker 2: has no capacity to know where we are, when we are,

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Speaker 2: or how we are. So we've taken out their air defenses.

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Speaker 2: We can strike at will. They have no navy, yet

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Speaker 2: there's still a threat. We continue this conversation about the

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Speaker 2: possibility of ground troops and what it could mean. But

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Speaker 2: what we have, more than anything else, what we have

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Speaker 2: is a media that is desperate to make you believe

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Speaker 2: that everything is terrible, awful, just the worst.

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Speaker 3: In real time.

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Speaker 2: We're seeing this take place as opposed to us deciding

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Speaker 2: what we like, what we don't, taking information and coming

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Speaker 2: up with thoughts. The desperation here is to make the claim,

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Speaker 2: to make the statement that everything is terrible, everything is awful,

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Speaker 2: everything is a failure, everything is a mess. That is

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Speaker 2: simply untrue. Tony Katz, Tony kats today. Good to be here,

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Speaker 2: Good to be with you.

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Speaker 3: Allow me to give you an example of this. Now.

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Speaker 2: I don't ever think that we should protect that reality

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Speaker 2: isn't real. We should always be aware of it. But

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Speaker 2: a number, a data point in a specific moment in time,

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Speaker 2: is not reality for forever. So I will give you

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Speaker 2: an example. You are eight years old. If you are

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Speaker 2: eight years old and fellow eight year old gives you

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Speaker 2: ice cream, I'm willing to bet.

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Speaker 3: You you rank them very very high.

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Speaker 2: If another eight year old comes by and punches you

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Speaker 2: in the face, I'm only betting right. Except for you

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Speaker 2: massachists out there who are like safe words are for babies,

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Speaker 2: you would rank that person, that eight year old very

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Speaker 2: very low. If the next day the person who gave

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Speaker 2: you ice cream punched you, and the person who punched

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Speaker 2: you gave you ice cream, those numbers with crisscross, that's

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Speaker 2: what they would do. We are talking about a snapshot

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Speaker 2: in time regarding Trump's approval numbers. This is CNN talking.

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Speaker 4: As low as Death Valley, and this I think is

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Speaker 4: so key here, which is you know, Johnny B was

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Speaker 4: pointing out, you know what, it's fed up now. But

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Speaker 4: this has been a steady fall into the abyss. There

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Speaker 4: is no bottom Death Valley, Death see that is how

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Speaker 4: low we are going. And look at this, I think

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Speaker 4: this really just kind of shows that it is not

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Speaker 4: one event that is dragging Donald Trump down. It's a

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Speaker 4: slow events that have come together and have continuously dropped

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Speaker 4: his net approval.

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Speaker 2: Ready, let's talk about the slew of events and who

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Speaker 2: reports on those events. I'm not a tariff guy. Tariffs

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Speaker 2: could have brought you down. Shutdowns, not Trump's fault. Shutdowns

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Speaker 2: could bring you down. A war worth rising gas prices,

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Speaker 2: what's the average right now producer landing, but the average

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Speaker 2: gas price across the country absolutely can bring you down.

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Speaker 2: I don't disagree that these numbers could bring you down.

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Speaker 2: His approval could be down from plus six when he

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Speaker 2: got inaugurated to negative eighteen today.

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Speaker 3: I ask you the following question.

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Speaker 2: You don't think Trump is aware that actions he takes

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Speaker 2: while they're in the process could have a negative effect

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Speaker 2: on approval. You don't think anybody doesn't understand this. Do

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Speaker 2: we actually think that this is reality? If gas prices

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Speaker 2: today started going down, and in two weeks from now

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Speaker 2: they were a two dollars and ninety six cents a gallon,

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Speaker 2: his approval rating would still be ten below. My point

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Speaker 2: to you is every single thing you look at is

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Speaker 2: predication on the idea from cable news and others that

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Speaker 2: everything has come to an earth shattering destruction and Trump

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Speaker 2: has failed.

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Speaker 3: We talk about how they take.

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Speaker 2: A look at the actual maneuvers there by the US military.

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Speaker 3: What's happening.

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Speaker 2: They'll tell you it's lost. They'll tell you it's over.

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Speaker 2: They'll tell you it's done. They'll tell you it's gone.

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Speaker 2: No part of that is true. It's been four weeks,

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Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen. Now you and I could have a

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Speaker 2: a disagreement on whether or not we should have taken

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Speaker 2: out the regime in Iran.

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Speaker 3: That would be what rational people do. And you know

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Speaker 3: what we would do.

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Speaker 2: We would take a look at data, and we would

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Speaker 2: take a look at our own thoughts and viewpoints, and

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Speaker 2: we would express these things. That isn't what's happening. What's

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Speaker 2: happening is every single part of this to the political

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Speaker 2: left has no purpose. Why not because they they have

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Speaker 2: data points, but because they have a mantra, and the

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Speaker 2: mantra is hate Trump, and you see it in everything

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Speaker 2: they do.

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Speaker 3: Notice I do not.

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Speaker 2: Start off with you have to love what happened. I

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Speaker 2: don't believe this. I don't believe this, and I don't

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Speaker 2: say this at all or in any way. You absolutely

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Speaker 2: do not have to love what has happened. Why would

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Speaker 2: I tell you that you have to love it? Why

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Speaker 2: would I tell you that you have to have it?

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Speaker 2: Why would I tell you you have to vote for it?

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Speaker 2: My god, you're grown up.

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Speaker 3: Make up your own mind. They go the other direction.

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Speaker 2: You have to agree with them because they do not

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Speaker 2: provide you the other side of the story. They don't

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Speaker 2: provide you the other side of the story. They don't

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Speaker 2: provide you the other things, the other pieces of data

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Speaker 2: they will share with you. That Iran was not an

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Speaker 2: imminent threat to us? Do you know how woke right

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Speaker 2: Tucker puppet foolish you have to be to buy into that.

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Speaker 2: Every time they engage in a terrorist attack, every time

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Speaker 2: they funded a terrorist organization, they were a threat to us.

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Speaker 3: We know what we already knew.

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Speaker 2: That this guy who ran his truck filled with explosives

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Speaker 2: into a synagogue in Michigan to kill the Jews there

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Speaker 2: was inspired by Hesbela.

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Speaker 3: We know this to be factual.

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Speaker 2: Now they want to be clear about something as they

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Speaker 2: tell the story that they're not saying this guy was

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Speaker 2: trained by Hesbela.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: Just that he was inspired by Hesbola.

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Speaker 5: It makes no legal difference if the current leader of

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Speaker 5: Hesbela himself, Naim Kassem, called this man and told him

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Speaker 5: to attack Temple Israel, or whether he simply heeded Hesbela's

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Speaker 5: call to kill Jews and, in his words, burn their world.

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Speaker 3: Let's bring in ms now justice an intelligence I don't

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Speaker 3: need to bring into anybody else.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't trained by Hesbla, he was inspired by Hesbla.

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Speaker 2: Well that's enough for me. Hesblah is funded by Iran.

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Speaker 2: I'm done here and I'm done with the people who

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Speaker 2: want to tell me that Iran wasn't an imminent threat. Well, tony,

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Speaker 2: this wouldn't have happened if the US didn't attack, the

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Speaker 2: US didn't attack Hesbla, the US attacked Iran, Israel attacked Hesbla.

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Speaker 2: Don't tell me it wouldn't have happened. Well, then it's

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Speaker 2: all Israel's fault. What kind of nonsense stupidity are we

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Speaker 2: discussing here? How many ways must you move and maneuver

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Speaker 2: until you look at reality? I swear in this situation

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Speaker 2: part of John Galt. Don't you get that it's over?

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Speaker 2: Don't you get that this is the way it is,

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Speaker 2: that if you allow terrorists.

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Speaker 3: To reign supreme, they will engage in terrorism.

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Speaker 2: You keep wanting the issue to be Israel, You keep

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Speaker 2: wanting the issue to be the US. The issue is

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Speaker 2: a terrorist regime of Islamists who believe in worldwide domination

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Speaker 2: and the destruction of Western civilization.

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Speaker 3: When will you just be honest with yourselves, woke right?

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Speaker 3: When will they learn? And until they learn? Why are

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Speaker 3: they so willing.

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Speaker 2: To put us in the absolute face of the harm?

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Speaker 2: Why are they so desperate, so absolutely desperate to not

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Speaker 3: Happening and what has happened.

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Speaker 2: Why is the political left so unwilling to discuss the

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Speaker 2: violent nature of the Iranian regime, the terrorist nature of

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Speaker 2: the Iranian regime, and.

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Speaker 3: The abuse of the people.

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Speaker 2: Now, I would agree with you that just because the

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Speaker 2: regime is abusing the people isn't necessarily the reason for

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Speaker 2: us to go in, because if that was the case,

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Speaker 2: we'd be going into a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of nations.

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Speaker 2: But the other things are the reason and One of

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Speaker 2: the additional bonuses is that we get to keep these

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Speaker 2: people from being abused. Thirty two thousand protesters killed, thirty

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Speaker 2: two thousand, that's the number. We're now denying that that

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Speaker 2: number is real. Okay, what number works or we You

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Speaker 2: only believe a number woke right in political left if

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Speaker 2: it comes from the Gaza Health Ministry. Oh, when the

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Speaker 2: Gaza Health Ministry says it, well, then it's real. It's

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Speaker 2: never real. That's UMAs. The people who buy into that

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Speaker 3: At what moment?

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Speaker 2: At what moment do we under stand that the threat

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Speaker 2: has always been there since nineteen seventy nine and we

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Speaker 2: have not done anything about it to end it.

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Speaker 3: So when you.

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Speaker 2: Tell me about polling numbers and you say to me,

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Speaker 2: my gosh, things are so bad for Donald Trump and oh,

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Speaker 2: my gosh, he's fallen into the abyss, says Harry Enton,

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Speaker 2: a twenty four point drop.

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Speaker 3: Can I ask a question?

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Speaker 2: A question for the Megan Kelly set I have this

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Speaker 2: data point here. Let me show this to you. It

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Speaker 2: shows three below in April. It shows seven below. In July,

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Speaker 2: he was already thirteen points under, sorry, sixteen points under,

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Speaker 2: sixteen points under where he was when he was elected.

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Speaker 2: How do you think that happened in seven months? Tariffs

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Speaker 2: or a non stop stream of media saying Trump evil.

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Speaker 2: You take that NonStop stream and you add that to

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Speaker 2: the low propensity voter who once Trump got elected because

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Speaker 2: they thought, well that would be cool, you know, the

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Speaker 2: Joe Rogan set, and those people went by the way.

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, all right, we don't pay any attention anymore.

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Speaker 2: Is anybody surprised we already see in the numbers, look

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Speaker 2: at them, the steady erosion because Trump's so terrible, or

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Speaker 2: because everybody was told Trump was so terrible and not

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Speaker 2: one conversation was had amongst the ABC, NBCCBSCNN, MS now

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Speaker 2: Let's not think that data still don't have tremendous power.

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Speaker 2: That you give people enough of that negativity and what

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Speaker 2: you'll get is negativity. My point to you is not

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Speaker 2: that you can't disagree with Trump and this action in Iran.

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Speaker 2: Of course you can. Where friends will agree will disagree,

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Speaker 2: but we're gonna do it based on the data, and

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Speaker 2: we're gonna do it based on the actual issues. Our

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Speaker 2: problem is that the media is not interested in data

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Speaker 2: and your actual issues. They're interested in narrative and they

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Speaker 2: do not care how they pummel you with it, and

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Speaker 2: you are watching it in real time, and you are

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Speaker 2: watching people fall for it.

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Speaker 3: In real time.

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Speaker 2: Polling shows us that amongst Republicans and amongst Americans, they

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Speaker 2: favor ending the Iranian regime. I think polling would look

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Speaker 2: differently three months from now if we were still in it.

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Speaker 2: Polling might look differently if we have troops on the ground,

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Speaker 2: although we still have not defined what the bloody heck

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Speaker 2: troops on the ground actually is. But unless we're debating

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Speaker 2: not doing that, then we're not providing a service. And

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Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz.

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Speaker 2: Today the CEO from Eric Canada will step down.

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Speaker 2: Tony kats today. So Air Canada was involved in this

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Speaker 2: The CEO of Air Canada, his name is Michael Rousseau.

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Speaker 2: And Air Canada is a Montreal based airline Quebec.

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Speaker 3: You have to speak customers.

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Speaker 2: You have to speak both languages, and you have to

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Speaker 3: But in his statement.

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Speaker 2: He offers bonjour and he offers mercy, and that's it.

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Speaker 2: According to Prime Minister Mark Carney, the message showed a

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Speaker 3: That is.

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Speaker 2: That is unique. That cost him his job. Two pilots

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Speaker 2: And if you think it's solely on the CEO to

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Speaker 2: look at yourselves. Wow, let us talk Pope Leo, and

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Speaker 3: Not really connected, but I'll hit them both. Keep it here.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Katz today. The

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Speaker 2: The question is whether what he said is allowed. Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, guys, good to be here, Good to

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Speaker 2: be with you. This is a guard for the Chicago Bulls,

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Speaker 3: He was discussing Pride Month.

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Speaker 2: And saying that it is unrighteous, that it celebrates unrighteousness.

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Speaker 2: Now I cannot tell you if Pride Month celebrates unrighteousness.

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Speaker 2: I will tell you that a month for gay pride

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Speaker 2: all of this has become political. Pride Month is political.

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Speaker 2: The gay Pride flag flag is political. The gay pride

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Speaker 2: what it means, what the colors are. It is just

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Speaker 2: But let me start with a rare spot for me

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Speaker 2: because you're saying that you're right and they're wrong. Except

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Speaker 2: Oh also a shield to please don't destroy this business.

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Speaker 2: We saw that with BLM and flags. We have seen

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Speaker 2: And if you don't post a signage, well then we

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Speaker 2: go after you. If you don't bend the knee, then

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Speaker 2: again and again. We have seen this. So when I

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Speaker 3: I say it with data behind me.

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Speaker 2: But if you want to argue that the gay pride

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Speaker 2: got Tony. The chatroom is open, YouTube dot com, slash

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz. Come join the live stream and of course

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Speaker 2: on the Twitter ex at Tony Kats. Email me tonyatnycats

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Speaker 2: dot com. Let's go to work here, jaden Ivy stated,

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Speaker 2: the world proclaims LGBTQ right. They proclaim Pride Month, and

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Speaker 2: the NBA does too. They show it to the world,

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Speaker 2: they say, come join us for Pride Month, to celebrate unrighteousness.

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Speaker 2: They proclaim it on the billboards, they proclaim it on

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Speaker 2: The answer is, I don't actually know what is in

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Speaker 2: agree to to? What he can and cannot say As

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Speaker 2: even my contract has clauses regarding things said conduct detrimental. So,

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: It's weirder in talk radio because our jobs to talk

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: If indeed it is conduct detrimental, but let's say that

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Speaker 2: proclaim it on billboards. They proclaim it on the streets unrighteousness. Now,

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Speaker 2: they're saying that this was the bridge too far? What

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Speaker 3: Would he be fired? Now?

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Speaker 2: I use Trump Month because I picked the thing that

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Speaker 3: You could uh pick something else.

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Speaker 2: Greg commenting said, just like TV, the Bulls should say

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Speaker 2: just wanted him canceled. When Steve Kerr, the coach of

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Speaker 2: How come those comments aren't detrimental to the team. When

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Speaker 2: went to mit he needs to educate himself. How about

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Speaker 2: conduct detrimental to the whole NBA because you guys sold

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Speaker 3: How gross? Not everybody but Lebron.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, if you say something about Lebron,

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Speaker 3: Not apologizing, not apologizing for facts. Son.

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Speaker 2: No, if Jade Ivy has found the lights as he

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Speaker 2: Ji is dead. I'm alive in Christ no matter what

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Speaker 2: the basketball setting is, I'm not here to tell him.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 3: You go you go do what you do, You go

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Speaker 3: be what you be.

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Speaker 2: You gotta go do that, by the way, producier land

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Speaker 2: of anybody's calling you gotta let me know.

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Speaker 3: Be sure to watch the phones eight three three got Tony.

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Speaker 2: But if this is the thing that is detrimental, and

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Speaker 2: aren't they saying shut up and dribble? I put forth

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Speaker 3: Saying shut up and dribble.

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Speaker 2: I'm a guy who has always been opposed to shut

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Speaker 2: Now you're not allowed to have your opinion not be questioned,

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Speaker 2: not be discussed, and not be broken down.

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Speaker 3: It possibly ridiculed.

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Speaker 2: You put yourself in this public sphere, kitten, words are

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Speaker 2: going to be spoken. But you don't have to just

444
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Speaker 2: play the game. You can say what you will. You're

445
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Speaker 2: a grown up. The NBA just said not so fast.

446
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Speaker 2: So now the question is if that's the case, well,

447
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Speaker 2: what else do we.

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Speaker 3: Apply it to? You mean, we only apply it to

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Speaker 3: pride month?

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Speaker 2: Is that it we only apply it if you're talking

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Speaker 2: about out the political movement that is LGBT, specifically the

452
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Speaker 2: t which the LGB should leave immediately. You don't want

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Speaker 2: any part of that. These abusers of children as I

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Speaker 2: see it, No, no, no, no, no, you're getting You're getting

455
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Speaker 2: hosed if you're part of the lg or the B.

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Speaker 3: For sure.

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Speaker 2: Now let me go to to to Robert on the phone.

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Speaker 2: Something in the livestream won't be able to hear this,

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Speaker 2: but don't worry. We'll we'll get to it. Because what

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Speaker 2: I said is is that for what reason, uh should

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Speaker 2: we uh have a gay Pride month and not a

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Speaker 2: month for for veterans Day for Gay Pride, a month

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Speaker 2: for veterans. I'm there for that. The other way, maybe

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Speaker 2: I think that's a problem. Who decided it was a month? Anyway, Robert,

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Speaker 2: welcome to the show. I appreciate you calling in.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Robert?

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Speaker 7: Hey, Tony, So you were saying that veterans don't have

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Speaker 7: a month, they only have a day. But if you

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Speaker 7: could quickly google what month is for veterans, you'll see

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Speaker 7: that November is dedicated to veterans, not just November eleventh,

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Speaker 7: but the entire month of November is dedicated to veterans

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Speaker 7: in military families.

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Speaker 3: I would think that that's great. If that's the case,

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Speaker 3: I'll gladly check it.

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Speaker 2: But the I think the greater argument would be, we

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Speaker 2: do call it Veterans Day.

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Speaker 3: We do You call it Pride Month? Well, yeah, but

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Speaker 3: you can.

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Speaker 7: I mean, if you were, if you were actually a veteran,

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Speaker 7: or if you had family that you know served in

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Speaker 7: the military and celebrated the Veterans Month, you would understand

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Speaker 7: that veterans do have a month, and all it takes

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Speaker 7: is a quick Google starts to look that up instead

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Speaker 7: of spewing hateful rhetoric.

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Speaker 3: No, no, hateful rhetoric was spewed. We call it Veterans Day.

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Speaker 3: We call it I don't think I said anything wrong

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Speaker 3: nor saving hateful.

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Speaker 7: You were saying that trans people abuse children, when in fact,

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Speaker 7: majority of child abuse in the sense of belief comes from.

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Speaker 3: The Ice state.

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Speaker 2: Quite clearly, Robert, quite clearly that the abuse of children

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Speaker 2: pushing them towards transgenderism, giving them puberty blockers.

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Speaker 3: What we just saw a Supreme Court decision.

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Speaker 2: Where Kanji Brown Jackson's descent is madness, where they didn't

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Speaker 2: want health experts in Colorado to be able to tell

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Speaker 2: young boys, no, you're a boy and not a girl,

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Speaker 2: and that's okay. That is all child abuse, and I'm

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Speaker 2: glad the Supreme Court acted the way they did.

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Speaker 3: Ice viewed nothing hateful.

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Speaker 2: The people who want to push children into transgenderism are

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Speaker 2: absolutely child abusers, period.

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Speaker 3: I apologize for no part of.

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Speaker 2: That, but I do appreciate the call, and I will

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Speaker 2: double check that on Veterans Month. But my point still stands,

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Speaker 2: let's call it Veterans Month. Though I'm all up for that,

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Speaker 2: happy to for sure, I appreciate the call more ahead.

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Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 2: So sometimes you learn something, and what I learned is

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Speaker 2: that I was not aware that maybe I had touched

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Speaker 2: on something that others have been thinking about, have been

511
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Speaker 2: bothered by.

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Speaker 3: I thought my comments were mostly benign.

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Speaker 2: If we have a gay Pride month, we only have

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Speaker 2: a Veteran's Day, I would reverse it, although I don't

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Speaker 2: know if I want a lot of these things that

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Speaker 2: get celebrated. It's just way too much stuff to celebrate.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Kats Today, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: And I had somebody disagree with me, and Robert called

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Speaker 2: in and said, well, if if you knew anything about veterans,

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Speaker 2: you know we'd have a month in November Veterans Month.

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Speaker 2: My point was, of course, nobody celebrates it as a

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Speaker 2: month celebrated as Veterans Day. We don't celebrate it as

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Speaker 2: a month, as opposed to Gay Pride Month, which is

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Speaker 2: celebrated as a month. And I had somebody on the

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Speaker 2: Twitter exit note that there's no month of parades or

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Speaker 2: discounts or media outlets supporting us.

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Speaker 3: No one supports veterans like that.

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Speaker 2: Then I got a call from John, a veteran who's like,

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Speaker 2: no one calls November Veterans Month. That guy who called

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Speaker 2: was definitely not a veteran. I can guarantee you that

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Speaker 2: thank you for standing up for us with no voice

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Speaker 2: or the ones that yell, that yells at all the

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Speaker 2: blanking trees.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what that means, but I'm.

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Speaker 2: So now I'm hearing something very different, and I don't

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Speaker 2: know if I'll be able to.

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Speaker 3: Get to it on the show.

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Speaker 2: Am I learning for the first time that veterans are

539
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Speaker 2: actually bothered by this? Or am I hearing veterans correctly

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Speaker 2: that they don't care if it's a day, a week

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Speaker 2: or a month. But for the love of God, would

542
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Speaker 2: you stop pretending like we get enough and everybody else

543
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Speaker 2: deserves more. Now, maybe maybe I'm taking it wrong, maybe

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Speaker 2: I'm hearing it wrong, but these were really quick on

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Speaker 2: it responses, like to an extent of visceral. I'm curious

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Speaker 2: about this. I'm curious about how they see it. Did

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Speaker 2: I inadvertently unbeknownst to me? Although it could be a

548
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Speaker 2: conversation out there and I was just never around it,

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Speaker 2: Like is this something that gets discussed or is it

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Speaker 2: a Hey, we're veterans, we don't care about that stuff.

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Speaker 2: But dear Lord, if someone's gonna tell us how somehow

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Speaker 2: they're not getting enough coverage or enough respect, we're gonna

553
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Speaker 2: tell them to sit down and shut up.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious. I could be complete.

555
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Speaker 2: It could just be these two and that's it. But

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Speaker 2: it's not just these two, I don't think. Meanwhile, we'll

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Speaker 2: get to the post stuff. We will get to the

558
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: straw pole and what they're saying about Charlotte Kirk.

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Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 1: Why from ball Heart Blind and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 3: It's Tony Katz.

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Speaker 8: Today, I did myself and just coming from the firing

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Speaker 8: room just a little bit ago. On my way over here,

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Speaker 8: talked to a bunch of members of the team, and

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Speaker 8: I'll say, normally when we're in the firing room working

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Speaker 8: over there, folks have got their heads down and they're

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Speaker 8: working and they do doing all the business that we

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Speaker 8: do of the space business. But I'll say there was

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Speaker 8: a lot of smiles today, So it felt really good

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Speaker 8: about that. As the team is preparing, I think everybody's

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Speaker 8: pretty excited and understands the significance of this launch. We

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Speaker 8: did talk to the flight quil last night briefing with them.

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Speaker 8: We had another one just a little bit before I

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Speaker 8: went down to the firing room. We had another briefing

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Speaker 8: with them last night, was just to kind of go

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Speaker 8: over the day launch routine with them, kind of a

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Speaker 8: refresher for ourselves and for them, and that went really well.

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Speaker 8: They were in great spirits. And then we had another

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Speaker 8: briefing today just to talk about how the launch countdown

580
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Speaker 8: was going. And as we'll talk here in a little bit,

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Speaker 8: it's been going really well.

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Speaker 3: Artemis too.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about the flyby of the Moon that is

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Speaker 2: scheduled for well April first, which is a terrible day

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Speaker 2: to do.

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Speaker 3: Who does a flight on April Fool's Day? That is

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Speaker 3: just that is not the timing I would have gone for.

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Speaker 3: But then again, I'm not in charge of timing for NASA.

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats, Tony Kats today, an absolute pleasure, guys.

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Speaker 3: Good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: It's a ten day mission and Artemis is about getting

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Speaker 2: back to the Moon. This is the first time since

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Speaker 2: the Apollo program. What is the point here, Well, the

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Speaker 2: point is something that just a good amount of thinking

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Speaker 2: has brought us to, and that is, if the plan is.

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Speaker 3: Mars right, if the plan.

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Speaker 2: Is to get to Mars an exploration of Mars, how

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Speaker 2: does that happen? And what has been clearly understood is

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Speaker 2: that it would be easier if you were launching from

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Speaker 2: the Moon. First, you have a little bit of distance,

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Speaker 2: but really what you get is the benefit of a

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Speaker 2: lack of atmosphere and a lack of gravity. Not a

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Speaker 2: total lack of gravity, but a great lack of gravity.

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Speaker 2: If you're talking about launching, I don't claim an expertise,

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Speaker 2: I do claim an understanding.

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Speaker 3: That I get the mouth.

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Speaker 2: If you are talking about launching from Earth, you have

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Speaker 2: to overcome this gravity with a trendous metaforce and fuel.

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Speaker 2: And now you've got to take a flight to Mars,

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Speaker 2: which is not an easy thing to do. By the way,

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Speaker 2: I still argue large levels of impossible.

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Speaker 3: If you're doing it from the Moon, you have some

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Speaker 3: distance you.

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Speaker 2: Don't have to cover, right, you're not halfway there by

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Speaker 2: they stretch, but you got some distance you don't have

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Speaker 2: to cover. And man, is it a lot easier to

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Speaker 2: punch through whatever atmosphere may minutely exist, allowing you more opportunity,

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Speaker 2: more fuel, et cetera to get to where you're going.

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Speaker 2: That is as layman as I can get. That's really

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Speaker 2: as layman as I can understand it what you have.

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Speaker 2: So the question is is the Moon a hub from Mars?

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Speaker 2: The Moon is hub for a lot of things. But yes,

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Speaker 2: that is a strong possibility, and that's where a lot

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Speaker 2: of these conversations are now. I think it's fascinating, and

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Speaker 2: I will tell you that the Moon or NASA is

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Speaker 2: one of the It might be the only thing left

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Speaker 2: where I say, I know government shouldn't be in this business,

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Speaker 2: per se. I know that government should spend its money

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Speaker 2: like this. I don't care do it. I think it's awesome.

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Speaker 2: I the level of hypocrite you can call me on

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Speaker 2: this subject goes from now until the end of time.

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Speaker 3: I accept, I accept.

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Speaker 2: I get what I'm doing, I get what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I understand completely and totally.

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Speaker 3: It's true.

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Speaker 2: It's true. Yet it's awesome. I think there is something

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Speaker 2: to it. I think there's something you can call it romantic.

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00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: I just think of look at what our fellow human

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00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 2: beings thought of as possible and then did. It's why

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00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 2: SpaceX is so unbelievable. These people who hate Elon Muskin

641
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Speaker 2: call him dumbscrew them, moron, morons, embarrassing, pathetic, low people.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: It is all spectacular, spectacular and terrific.

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Speaker 3: I just want to see more of it. I just

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Speaker 3: want to see more of it. That's all. Love it.

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Speaker 2: What I'd like to see less of is this absolute

647
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Speaker 2: nonsense garbage that the Daily Mail just put out about

648
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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk. This is truly, truly disgusting what they posted

649
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Speaker 2: over there at the Daily Mail read's bullet used to

650
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Speaker 2: kill Charlie Kirk did not match rifle allegedly used by

651
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Speaker 2: suspect Tyler Robinson. New court filing claims, well, that's something

652
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Speaker 2: that's not what actually happened.

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Speaker 3: It is an.

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Speaker 2: Incendiary, disgusting, horrifying.

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Speaker 3: Headline. So it was a conspiracy.

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Speaker 2: So Candice Owens was right, Hey, let me click on

657
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Speaker 2: this story to get more. It is beyond a misleading headline.

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Speaker 2: It's a lie because when we take a look at

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Speaker 2: what it is they found during autopsy, they state that

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Speaker 2: the result of the comparison was inconclusive. Somehow the defense,

661
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 2: trying to mount a defense, wants to make a claim

662
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Speaker 2: that this proves that it wasn't Tyler Robinson.

663
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 3: No, it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Atf Ran as is been reported, an analysis on the

665
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 2: bullet jacket fragment recovered from Charlie's autopsy, the result was inconclusive,

666
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: not no match.

667
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 3: Those are two different things. Now, people who play.

668
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: In that world might be able to give me a

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00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: little more data and a little more explanation. The jacket

670
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: was too fragmented to compare, which also partially explains the

671
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: lack of an exit wound. Inconclusive means insufficient evidence to

672
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 2: draw any conclusion. It does not mean that the bullet

673
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 2: did not match the rifle. As the headline stated, the

674
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: false inflammatory let me get some clicks headline.

675
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 3: So now What the defense is saying.

676
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 2: Is that they want this to be exculpatory, right, exculpatory

677
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 2: to clear someone of guilt.

678
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 3: But that's not what this data does.

679
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: That's not what this data can do, not by any stretch.

680
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: There are other testings that could take place, and the

681
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 2: defense doesn't want those tests because they want to be

682
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: able to rest on something inconclusive, lie about what it is,

683
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: and help their clients who seems to have murdered Charlie Kirk.

684
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: It is beyond beyond ugly what it is that the

685
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 2: Daily Mail has done here. The defense is questioning how

686
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: the bullet gets matched. They're trying to defend their clients.

687
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 2: And what you want is.

688
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 3: To say, hey, click here.

689
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 2: I mean I understand that that clicks are are you know,

690
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 2: how do I clean this up?

691
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 3: Clicks are prostitute. Honestly, that's the best I can do

692
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 3: to clean it off, I swear to you.

693
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: But this is dirty. This is dirty and obscene. And

694
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 2: that's what that seems to be where we're at right now.

695
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: We're in the dirty kind of play and people fine

696
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: with it, solid with it. They think that it's somehow acceptable.

697
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: What part of this would be acceptable? And no one's

698
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: gonna stop reading the Daily Mail tomorrow. What's going to

699
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 2: happen is it's gonna get quoted, It's gonna get used,

700
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: It's gonna get utilized. Bloody heck, even I will sometimes

701
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: still use a CNN story as a source.

702
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 3: I know that CNN is full of garbage.

703
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 2: I'm fully aware that these people can't be trusted, but

704
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: they do have one or two people left who can

705
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 2: go about doing some reporting.

706
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 3: My god, there's still some reporters of the New York Times.

707
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 5: You know.

708
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 3: It's just that The New York Times can't be trusted.

709
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 2: It's it is just flat out horrifying that this would happen,

710
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 2: But I guess not surprising. So with that, when you

711
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 2: read that headline, know how nonsense it is, know how

712
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: shameful it is, and know that no, it's not what

713
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: it claims to be. Right now, Tyler Robinson is the

714
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: main suspect. He has the right to a defense. Bring

715
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Speaker 2: on the trial. I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony

716
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 2: Katz today tonight on the first you're truly filling in

717
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 2: for Shawn Spicer on the Shawn Spicer Show.

718
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 3: That's right, I hosted.

719
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 2: I think it's my first television show hosting, Like.

720
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it is.

721
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: I've appeared on a lot of TV, but as a host,

722
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 2: I think it's my first.

723
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: I don't know.

724
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: I didn't curse. I didn't curse, and I did not

725
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: make fun of anybody's mother, although there was a really

726
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 2: interesting Tiger Woods joke. There was an interesting Tiger Woods

727
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 2: joke in there, but you'll have to catch that on

728
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: the first I will also be on the Shawn Speicer

729
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: YouTube channel. Yeah, Shawn Spiccer, the former Press secretary Dancing

730
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 2: with the Stars.

731
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 3: Shawn Spicer, very nice guy.

732
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 2: Has been outrageously kind to me and I greatly appreciate.

733
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: And I got the call last night if I was

734
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: available to fill in, and so I hope he's feeling well,

735
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 2: and the answer was yes, happy to do it, Thrilled

736
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 2: to have the opportunity, So look for that. And then

737
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 2: I am scheduled on Newsmax tonight at six point thirty,

738
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 2: so that's happening as well. If you miss any of this,

739
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: you caught the podcast, you get the show late, and

740
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 2: don't worry.

741
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 3: I'll have it all up on.

742
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: The Socials so you'll be able to see everything. And

743
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 2: I appreciate the support in all of those ways.

744
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 3: I do want to.

745
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 2: Get into a Tiger Woods conversation. I do, I should,

746
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 2: I should, but I wanted to continue, and I had

747
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 2: the story.

748
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 3: For you, and it is eluding me right now.

749
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: It wasn't in a answer, although there was a story

750
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 2: that came over that things are moving in the straight

751
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 2: up hor moves.

752
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 3: No, no, no.

753
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 2: The story was about Christy Nomes's husband.

754
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 3: I don't know what's real and what's not.

755
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is that's going on with her,

756
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 2: and not everything is her fault. She has surrounded herself

757
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 2: with some people who aren't great, and then there are

758
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 2: some things that who would know. I guess I am

759
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 2: sometimes at a loss as to how odd people are.

760
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 2: Now I've said this before and I'll say it again,

761
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: and I'm correct here. Everybody has a fetish. Absolutely positively,

762
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 2: everybody has a fetish. Some are totally innocent, some are

763
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 2: indeed sexual, Some could be seen as dangerous, some are

764
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 2: against the law. The Rock is a fetishist, so is

765
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 2: the masochist. Just a different fetish. I don't think every

766
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: fetish is bad for you, but we should be clear

767
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 2: that everybody's got the thing that moves them. I may

768
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 2: not understand some of the things that move people in

769
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 2: the same way. Other people are like, what do you

770
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 2: mean you're attracted defeat. I'm not talking about me, I'm

771
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 2: talking about other people. I am not a foot guy.

772
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 2: I just don't think feet are the end of the universe.

773
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 2: Some people are like, feet is the human body should

774
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: stop at the ankle, that's it.

775
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 3: I like those people are like awkward. It's because they're

776
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 3: just so visceral with their hate.

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00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 2: Some people are really in defeat right. Some people are

778
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 2: the Dick Morris types. Who am I to judge? I

779
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: don't go live your life. Go find the person who's

780
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 2: also in defeat. Knock yourself out. Just please don't tell

781
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 2: me about it. Don't show me, no thank you. This

782
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 2: brings us to a story about Christinoam's husband.

783
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 3: This is nutty now.

784
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,479
Speaker 2: This was initially reported by The Daily Mail, the same

785
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 2: people who reported this Charlie Kirk nonsense, and the story

786
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: says Misnome is devastated. The family was blindsided by this

787
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 2: and they ask for privacy and prayers.

788
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 3: At this time. What in the world is this all about?

789
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 3: What this is all about is that allegedly.

790
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 2: Her husband leads a cross dressing double life. I don't

791
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 2: know what in the world I'm supposed to say to this.

792
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: And they're supposedly photos out there and dressing up and

793
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 2: the I have no idea. And yes, I heard there

794
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 2: are pictures out there. I am not searching for them,

795
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: if only because I would like to sleep tonight. It

796
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 2: is not my thing. I do not look at this

797
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 2: man and say what you have done is horrifying. If

798
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: it moves you and it moves other people, I don't

799
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 2: get involved. I don't, I don't, I don't judge it whatever.

800
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: As long as you're not hurting other people, go live

801
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: your life.

802
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 3: But how is how is this? What's the right word?

803
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask? How is this possible? Maybe what

804
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 3: I'm trying to ask is, how is it possible.

805
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 2: That amongst those who are in leadership, those who are

806
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: in the know, these things happen with a level of

807
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 2: seeming prevalence. With all due respect, you could tell me

808
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 2: how Nancy Pelosi's husband was attacked by a random guy

809
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 2: with a hammer, and I'll tell you sure he was. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge,

810
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:53,720
Speaker 2: say no more. Everybody has a fetish.

811
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 3: You're telling me that Christinom didn't know.

812
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 2: And then she found out because it was on the website.

813
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 3: You say what you will, You say what you will

814
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 3: about Christy Nellman. Some of it I can agree with you.

815
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 3: That's that's awful. That is awful. If indeed Christy didn't know.

816
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 2: Human history doesn't change, the human condition doesn't change.

817
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 3: They like what they like, and some of it's legal

818
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 3: and some of it's not.

819
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today, Three more things, Tony Katz,

820
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, guys, an absolute pleasure.

821
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 3: To be with you. What is three more things?

822
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 2: These are things that people should be talking about on

823
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 2: the front pages, but because of other news stories not

824
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: to do. Things get knocked off those front pages all

825
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 2: the time. So I make sure that we discuss them

826
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 2: right here. First, I take you to Rhode Island and

827
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: Pretti Si Landon. I know you just sent me that story,

828
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:20,439
Speaker 2: but I had that story that insanity. I appreciate you though.

829
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: Where an artist put up a mural was paid for

830
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 2: by Elon Musk and honors Arena Zarutzka. Who's Arena Zarutzka.

831
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 2: She was the Ukrainian woman murdered in North Carolina. She's

832
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 2: on a light rail. She's just sitting there, minding her

833
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 2: own business. This man, black man behind her pulls out

834
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 2: a knife starts stabbing her.

835
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 3: She looks up at him, not anyone to know.

836
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 2: She's realized how hurt she was, scared out of her mind.

837
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 2: Nobody helps her, Nobody gets out of a seat. He

838
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 2: walks off the train. He's literally saying, got the girl.

839
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 2: And she slowly bleeds out, and the video camera, the

840
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 2: videos that are there show her just dying right in

841
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 2: front of you. This child twenty something, what's good? Twenty three?

842
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 3: Thank you?

843
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 2: And oh, media doesn't want to talk about this. Media

844
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 2: doesn't want to talk about this. Jade and Ivy, Oh,

845
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 2: we have to talk about him because look how he

846
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 2: insulted gay people. This woman got stabbed to death. That

847
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: guy has an opinion. You don't have to agree with

848
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 2: his opinion. But we aren't going to discuss those on

849
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 2: the streets who've been convicted and charged with all sorts

850
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 2: of crimes being put back out on the streets.

851
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 3: We're not gonna say, hey, let's not do that.

852
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 2: Jade and Ivy can't say something against a Pride month

853
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 2: because if he does, he gets thrown off the team.

854
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 2: I can't get the left to notice when women are

855
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 2: being stabbed to death. They don't seem to care. That's

856
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 2: some messed up priorities right there. That's messed up stuff.

857
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 2: We're not going to fall for that. Musk is hiring

858
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 2: basically a mural to be painted. The mural is not

859
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 2: done in downtown Providence, and the mayor wants the artwork

860
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 2: taken down and says, and I've got the quote right here.

861
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 2: The mayor states his name is Brett Smiley. Can't make

862
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 2: that up. The murder of the individual depicted in this

863
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 2: mural was a devastating tragedy, but the misguided, isolating intent

864
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 2: of those funding murals like this, like the one across

865
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 2: the county, is divisive and does not represent Providence. What

866
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 2: is divisive about a painting of Arena Zurutska.

867
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 3: What's divisive?

868
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 2: She was murdered, and Elon Musk thinks people should remember

869
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 2: her face and her name and what happened to her.

870
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 3: And we should a society say.

871
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 2: We don't want this, and we're sick and tired of

872
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 2: prosecutors that don't prosecute.

873
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 3: We're sick and tired of.

874
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 2: Prosecutors who think that career criminals should get off. But

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00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 2: if you say something wrong, you just spend one hundred

876
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: years in jail. Jade and Ivy says, I don't believe

877
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 2: in Pride month. I think it's unrighteous. Lose a job, murderer, murders, criminal,

878
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 2: engages in criminal activity. Why are you paying attention? You

879
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 2: better believe we should play in the culture wars and

880
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 2: we should win because they have to lose.

881
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:54,959
Speaker 3: This doesn't match who we are.

882
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 2: And then there's this is not the mayor, but this

883
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 2: is a a representative of the area saying that this mural.

884
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 3: It doesn't represent Providence values.

885
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 9: Ultimately, we want to make sure that every community member

886
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 9: that calls Providence home feels safe. And we can both

887
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 9: agree that this mural behind us does not reflect Providence's values,

888
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 9: nor does it reflect the creativity that we want to

889
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 9: see in our city.

890
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 3: Ultimately, what are you talking about? What values does Providence have?

891
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 2: Now we know it's Rhode Island, we know it's already

892
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 2: a pretty screwed up place, we know what it is.

893
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 2: We understand this leftist hot bid hotbed that it has

894
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 2: always been. What are you talking about? How does this

895
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 2: not represent your values? It's a painting it's a painting

896
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 2: of a girl's face. How does it not represent your values? Yo,

897
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 2: you don't want to be reminded that she was murdered,

898
01:00:55,960 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 2: that policies that maybe you favor, representative allow these career

899
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 2: criminals back out on the streets. Or is the problem

900
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 2: that she's white? Go on, tell us mayor tell us representative.

901
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 2: You don't want to show the white woman who got

902
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 2: killed by a black man because you think that's going

903
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 2: to encourage racism.

904
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 3: God, people ask me why I'm not a liberal.

905
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 2: That's why would I ever want to be so broken

906
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 2: in my soul that I think like that ugly stuff.

907
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 2: This brings us to the crash of Tiger Woods. Not

908
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 2: career car again. He told police he was looking at

909
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 2: his phone he didn't realize the car in front of

910
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 2: him had slowed. He was involved in a rollover crash,

911
01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 2: arrested for DUI, released on bail. That same night, his

912
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 2: land drover crossing lanes, clipping a forward truck and partially

913
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 2: rolled over. This was his second DUI arrest and fourth

914
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 2: car crash that.

915
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 3: We know about. Man, I'll tell you what.

916
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 2: There's been this conversation about how the PGA has to

917
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 2: do something and has to say something. There has to

918
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 2: be a punishment, and I'm pretty sure that producer Landing

919
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong. I'm pretty sure they're gonna

920
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 2: want him at the Masters. I'm pretty sure they still

921
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 2: want him to be out there.

922
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 3: Correct. I would say more than likely.

923
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 2: I would go with more than likely too. If he

924
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 2: keeps driving, he's going to get someone killed. We're now

925
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 2: into the place where he's just fortunate, fortunate that.

926
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 3: No one has been killed.

927
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 2: But he's in this place, and I don't know what

928
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 2: the PGA is supposed to do. I don't know how

929
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 2: they're how they're supposed to react. Are they supposed to

930
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 2: tell him you can't play in in in the in

931
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 2: in the Masters, You're gonna suspend them?

932
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know how that part works.

933
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 2: Now, compared to Jade and Ivy, this could be conduct

934
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 2: that's detrimental because nobody wants to bring it. I mean,

935
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 2: nobody who know he wants is brought into into the

936
01:03:50,840 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 2: UH into the tour. But I was on the phone.

937
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 2: That's a weird defense, super weird defense. Then there are

938
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 2: home listings, so the where's.

939
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 3: The market right now?

940
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: I got it?

941
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 3: I got it right, here the pre market was massive.

942
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 2: Pre market was massive, massive, massive today and there's a.

943
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 3: Moment we're at it. At least at this very second,

944
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 3: the Dow is.

945
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 2: Up nine hundred, the Nazaka is up six seventy two.

946
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 3: Because there's optimism for an end to the war in Iran.

947
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 2: Okay, Now, you can't get me to answer the following question, what.

948
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 3: Do you mean an end to the war? What does

949
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 3: an end look like?

950
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're optimistic about, but sure, knock

951
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 2: yourself out. Maybe optimistic because this is war powers acting

952
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 2: has to be wrapped up in sixty days, with another

953
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 2: thirty days to engage all the extraction could be that

954
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 2: as we are in the halfway mark, the thirty days

955
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 2: of this. But but the idea that the markets can

956
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 2: just look at a look at a state and be like,

957
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 2: all right, everything's gonna be fine. Up nine hundred, too

958
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 2: weird for words. I would rather look at home listings

959
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 2: in the month of February.

960
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 3: This is from redfin.

961
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 2: You have six hundred and thirty thousand more home sellers

962
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 2: than buyers and as a follow up, half of all

963
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 2: listings have been on the market for sixty days plus.

964
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 2: Now to the reeltors out there. The terminology they use

965
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 2: is stale. I have never heard that before. I have

966
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 2: never heard a listing referred to as stale. But I'm

967
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 2: not in that world, so maybe that's how it's used.

968
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 2: And Miami leads the major metros in the share of

969
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 2: stale listings fifty two percent of listings. This is February

970
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 2: on the market for at least sixty days without going

971
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 2: under contract, highest share for the month since twenty nineteen,

972
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 2: which is interesting.

973
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 3: It's a pre COVID number.

974
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 2: The issue is elevated mortgage rates because if I take

975
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 2: a look at the thirty.

976
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 3: Year fixed that rate.

977
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:02,439
Speaker 2: A month ago, March first was national average six point

978
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 2: oh five. Now you could have found it for less,

979
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 2: you could have paid points, all sorts of things. It

980
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 2: was six point oh five now six point five. H

981
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 2: it's up a half a percent. And people are gonna say,

982
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 2: you know what, all oh wait, I'll wait on that one.

983
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 3: You have people with cars. Car sales are down. I'll wait.

984
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens with this warm with the oil prices. Yeah,

985
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 2: maybe it's not. It's not the time to buy the

986
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 2: very large suv like I did last month. I needed

987
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 2: something to move some equipment around. I needed something for

988
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 2: work and I wasn't gonna be just to pick up

989
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 2: because I wanted something that could, you know, protect it.

990
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 2: So I bought used but very large, outrageously large SUV

991
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 2: and I believe, I believe it gets three gallons to

992
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 2: the mile. It's very exciting. It was a Humby's that

993
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,919
Speaker 2: is on the list, that's lower on the list.

994
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's rough out there. It's hard out here for

995
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 3: a pimp. It is rough out there.

996
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 2: So, uh, you're seeing car sales not go as as

997
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 2: as fast. I got to assume with home sales, if

998
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 2: it's still in a certain range, people are buying. It's

999
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 2: just that range gets lower as interest rates get higher.

1000
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,640
Speaker 2: And then there was this just because I like to

1001
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 2: be proven right. You have a former Biden staffer. I

1002
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 2: do not know her, eggwa Woley. You me see Eggwawolle,

1003
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 2: former Biden White House staffer. She's on TikTok and she's saying,

1004
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 2: you know, I went to Disneyland again.

1005
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,679
Speaker 3: These people going to Disney What are these people wearing?

1006
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 3: How are people going out of the house like this?

1007
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 3: They're in front of children.

1008
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 2: Why in the world is anybody wearing chaps at Disney

1009
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 2: as an adult. Great question. So glad you asked the

1010
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 2: idea that there are indeed unwritten social expectations, societal expectations

1011
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 2: that government behavior, especially around families.

1012
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 3: Wait till you see the amount of people who have been.

1013
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 2: Encouraged, Miss h Eggbi Wole by your party to dismiss,

1014
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 2: deny and get rid of all of those expectations. Look

1015
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 2: at you invited to Look at who you invited to

1016
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 2: the White House.

1017
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 3: Look at who you invited to the White House. And

1018
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 3: you see the points.

1019
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.

1020
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 2: So I didn't get to the story yesterday about the pope,

1021
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 2: and you've been hearing people talk about this story.

1022
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 3: What is it?

1023
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 2: Pope Leo says, God rejects prayers of leaders who wage war.

1024
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Guys, an absolute

1025
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 2: pleasure to be with you. I don't expect since Pope

1026
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 2: John Paul the second a pope to be aligned with

1027
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 2: me politically. I wouldn't expect such a thing. I have

1028
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 2: not opposed to this pope or any pope. I leave

1029
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 2: it to Catholics to kind of engage Hey, they've said

1030
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 2: this this on policy, or this on canon, or this

1031
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 2: on rights, and I say yes, and I say no, etc.

1032
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 3: But the Pope wrote or spoke.

1033
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 2: That Jesus does not listen to the prayers of those

1034
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 2: who wage war, but rejects them, saying, even though you

1035
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 2: make many prayers.

1036
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 3: I will not listen. Your hands are full of blood.

1037
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 2: And then this is our God, Jesus, King of Peace,

1038
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 2: who rejects war, whom no one can use to justify war.

1039
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 2: That's different than whether or not a war is justifiable.

1040
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 2: But the idea of the prayers rejected are prayers rejected

1041
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 2: of those who would fight to end slavery, to free

1042
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 2: children from being raped. I want the Pope to answer

1043
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 2: that question because this is so directed at Trump and

1044
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 2: Israel regarding Iran, the people who suffer in Iran daily,

1045
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 2: the women who suffer in Iran daily, those who are gay,

1046
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 2: who have suffered at the hands of the regime, thrown

1047
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 2: off rooftops daily.

1048
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 3: Does God answer those prayers.

1049
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 2: I accept that the Pope is going to say things

1050
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 2: that the Pope says and talks about bringing the world

1051
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 2: together in peace and harmony.

1052
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 3: It's hard to have.

1053
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 2: Peace and harmony with people who want to kill you.

1054
01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 2: Sometimes you have to do horrible things. I don't always

1055
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 2: expect the Pope to understand. I would have expected a

1056
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 2: little better than this. I'm Tony Katz.

1057
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 1: Why from vall Hartbeyer and the Crossroads of America.

1058
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 3: It's Tony Katz today.

1059
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 2: According to the Secretary of War Pete Hegseth or Secretary

1060
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 2: of Defense for those of you who are touchy about

1061
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 2: these things, all options are on the table.

1062
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:32,520
Speaker 10: As far as President Trump and boots on the ground.

1063
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 3: I don't understand why the base, which they have already they.

1064
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 10: Understand, wouldn't have faith in his ability to execute on this.

1065
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 10: Look at his crack record of pursuing peace through strength

1066
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 10: america first outcomes and what he's simply saying and is

1067
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 10: exactly true. And I've said from this podium too.

1068
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 3: We're not going to foreclose any option. You can't fight and.

1069
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 10: Win a war if you tell your admosphery what you

1070
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 10: are willing to do or what you are not willing

1071
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 10: to do, to include boots on the ground. Our adversary

1072
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 10: right now thinks there are fifteen different ways we could

1073
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 10: come at them with boots on the ground.

1074
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 3: And guess what there are.

1075
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 10: So if we needed to, we could execute those options

1076
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 10: on behalf of the President of the United States and this.

1077
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 3: Department, or maybe we don't have to use them at.

1078
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 10: All, maybe negotiations work, or maybe there's a different approach.

1079
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 10: But the point is to be unpredictable in that certainly,

1080
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 10: not let anybody know what you're willing to do or

1081
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 10: not do. But if anybody has internalized the lessons of

1082
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 10: Iraq and Afghanistan, as the first one President Trump to

1083
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 10: call them out for what they are, he's not going

1084
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 10: to repeat those lessons. And I think I've been very

1085
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 10: clear about that from the podium for.

1086
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 2: All warfare is based on deception. It's sunsue people, this

1087
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 2: is warfare. One oh one, Tony Katz, Tony Kats today,

1088
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 2: good to be with you. This is why the American

1089
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 2: left is so broken. They can't believe that. That doesn't

1090
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 2: make any sense to them. How could it be about exception?

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Speaker 2: How dare you lie to the American people? No one's

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01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 2: lying to the American people. But you don't let loose

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01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,640
Speaker 2: what your plans are. By the way, the full quote

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01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 2: from Sun Sou in the Art of War, All warfare

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01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 2: is based on deceumption on deception. Hence, when we are

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Speaker 2: able to attack, we must seem unable. When using our forces,

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01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 2: we must appear inactive. When we are near, we must

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01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 2: make the enemy believe we are far away. When far away,

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01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 2: we must make him believe we are near. Yep, But

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Speaker 2: what a line we're sending the ground troops. That's different

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01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 2: than whether or not we placed the ground troops. We've

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Speaker 2: got twenty five hundred marines on the USS Tripoli, we've

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01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 2: got this that the eighty second Airborne. But have we

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01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 2: placed the troop anywhere? Wasn't this our conversation yesterday? What

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01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 2: does boots on the ground actually mean? And why are

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01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 2: so many people worked up by it?

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Speaker 3: Now? I have made the statement as clear as day

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01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 3: that if.

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01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 2: President Trump says we're gonna go get the uranium, that

1110
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,719
Speaker 2: clearly means somebody has to walk in and get the uranium.

1111
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 2: Whether that's the US, whether that's the Israelis it somebody?

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Speaker 3: So there's going to be a boot on the ground.

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01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 2: But I think what people mean is in a fighting posture,

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01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 2: actually sitting there in some kind of line, like where

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01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 2: the Red Coats firing.

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Speaker 3: At the IRGC.

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Speaker 2: What do they I'm not even sure they quite understand

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01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 2: what they mean by boots on the ground, but correct,

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01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 2: nothing's happened yet. But if you were to listen to

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Speaker 2: the media, man, they are desperate to make you think

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01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,640
Speaker 2: all is lost, desperate to make you believe we have

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01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 2: completely failed. That's their objective. They hate Trump so much

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Speaker 2: that everything has to be a failure. We already lost.

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01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 2: They don't care if they demoralized the troops. They don't

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Speaker 2: care if they demoralized the American people. They don't care

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01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 2: if they don't report the full story. They're fine with it.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I hosted the Sean Spicer Show today,

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01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 2: so if you get the first there, you should get it.

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Speaker 2: As Sean was out today, so I was filling in

1130
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Speaker 2: as host, and so be sure to watch that. And

1131
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 2: we get into this car conversation myself and radio hosts

1132
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 2: Grace Curly and then Tim Murtau, who was Comms director

1133
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty and then special advisor in twenty twenty four,

1134
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:09,759
Speaker 2: and Alex Swoyer, who.

1135
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 3: Is the editor over there at the Washington Times.

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01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 2: This very concept of trying to demoralize the political left

1137
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 2: cares more about power than people, and they care more

1138
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 2: about control than country. Those are the facts can not

1139
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 2: really deniable. And this is a great way to prove

1140
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 2: this and this idea that you're not telling us.

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01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:36,759
Speaker 3: Man, don't tell the press a dang thing. These people

1142
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 3: cannot be trusted. Now.

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01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 2: As for whether or not Iran will make a deal,

1144
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 2: but if r On is wise, they will cut a deal.

1145
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 2: President Trump doesn't bluff and he does not back down.

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01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 2: You can ask Kamanian about that.

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01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 10: The new Iranian regime should know that by now, this

1148
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 10: new regime, because regime change has occurred, should be wiser

1149
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 10: than the last. President Trump will make a deal he

1150
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 10: is willing, and the terms of the deal are known

1151
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 10: to them.

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01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 3: If Iron is not willing, then the.

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01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:17,560
Speaker 10: United States War Department will continue with even more contensity.

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01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 2: Now the question, of course, is with whom are we debating.

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01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 2: And I think that this is a fine conversation. And

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01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I don't know. There's an interesting.

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01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:32,600
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1158
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 2: Do I call it a bit of data. There was

1159
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 2: a story, right, a story going around about how the

1160
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:52,719
Speaker 2: president of a Rand Pozsessken, is talking about the fact

1161
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 2: that he's not involved in the negotiations and he's angry

1162
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 2: about this, and so there was a source where posessk

1163
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 2: is complaining that he wants to be involved in the

1164
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 2: negotiation because without a deal, the economy will collapse in

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01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 2: three weeks, And allegedly there was a response from the IRGC,

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01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 2: the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, one of their chiefs that said,

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01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 2: that's exactly why you can't be involved. You'll give up

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01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:34,560
Speaker 2: everything for a deal. And allegedly a response from Posesskian

1169
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,600
Speaker 2: sorry I'm mispronouncing his name, was that he's like, you know,

1170
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:39,719
Speaker 2: I'm unable to resign. I can't make my own decisions.

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01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 2: All I can do is read from a script. And

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Speaker 2: so it leads one to believe that the IRGC is

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01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 2: in charge. Now, if that's true, the Islama Revolutionary Guard

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01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 2: Corps is in charge, well then there's no negotiation that

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01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 2: is possible. You have to break them of their mother

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01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 2: before you even get close to that. There is no

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Speaker 2: negotiation that is possible. But just as I discussed deception,

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01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 2: who knows if this conversation is real, who knows who

1179
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 2: they're negotiating with? Are they negotiating with the parliament a spokesperson.

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01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:20,679
Speaker 3: In Iran?

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01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 2: Because if there are are, if there engage in negotiation

1182
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 2: with galibah Mohammed Bager Balagoff, the speaker of the Parliament. Well,

1183
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 2: what makes anybody think that he could be trusted? He

1184
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 2: replaced Larajani. Larjhani was killed by the Israelis. I believe

1185
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 2: it was the Israelis. Why would I trust him to

1186
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 2: a negotiation? What would be what would be there if

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01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 2: the IRGC is controlling things on the.

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01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 3: Ground, How do you make that happen?

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01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 2: This is why I'm one of the people who understands

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01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 2: the boots on the ground conversation, or at least how

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01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 2: I take it. I should say one of the people understands,

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01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 2: like you don't. That's stupidly rude, and I apologize. I

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01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 2: believe the boots on the ground doesn't have to mean

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01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 2: Tehran doesn't have to be an actual invading force into

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01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 2: the mainland of Iran. It could be the absolute obliterizing

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01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 2: that's right, my word, of carg island and ending their

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01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 2: ability to get hard currency, stopping that flow. It could

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Speaker 2: be the taking of Kesham, It could be the taking

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Speaker 2: of other small islands in the air. That would be

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01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 2: boots on the ground. But that's a different play than

1201
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 2: mainland invasion, because I don't think the invasion is going

1202
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:45,680
Speaker 2: to be the way it goes at all. But I

1203
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 2: don't think you really get anywhere until you cut off

1204
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 2: the money supply, because I have no reason to think

1205
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 2: that the IRGC is going to heal if there's still

1206
01:20:58,120 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 2: dollars coming.

1207
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 3: Their way, Because if their no dollars.

1208
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:03,839
Speaker 2: And they have no support to being in this position

1209
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 2: of power, that's when the people rise up and they

1210
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,719
Speaker 2: have to run for their lives. Those IRGC members, anybody

1211
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 2: who's left to besiege, they're getting killed. The Iranian people

1212
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:22,599
Speaker 2: are going to kill them. Are we taking bets I take?

1213
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, The Iranian people are going to kill

1214
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:27,680
Speaker 2: them the very first chance they get.

1215
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Speaker 3: No question, no quest Now.

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01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 2: I will also say, and that is my sincerest hope,

1217
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 2: that they are able to eliminate the IRGC. If the

1218
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 2: IRGC all runs away, Okay, they all run away, and

1219
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 2: then the people are able to establish their own government.

1220
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 2: And what government that's going to be, I don't know.

1221
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 2: I don't know how that's going to look around these

1222
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 2: play out, but I absolutely and wholeheartedly want that for them.

1223
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 3: And I believe that if we leave without.

1224
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 2: The people working on their own government, we're making an

1225
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 2: absolutely massive mistake.

1226
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 3: Boots on the ground.

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01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 2: Is not yet in play, and sending boots doesn't mean

1228
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 2: you've engaged in invasion. A lot of ways this can

1229
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 2: play out a lot. This could be a layered approach,

1230
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 2: a little bit here and a little bit there, and

1231
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 2: a little bit there and a little bit this. So

1232
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 2: the bombing over here and moving over here, you have

1233
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 2: to eliminate the threat altogether. Now, this now gets into

1234
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 2: as Pete Heseth was speaking this morning at the press

1235
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 2: conference giving the latest with a General Dan Caine, Hegseth,

1236
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 2: gets into what's going on with European nations.

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01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 10: And as far as NATO's concerned, that's a decision that'll

1238
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:36,719
Speaker 10: be left to the president.

1239
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 3: But I'll just say a lot.

1240
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 10: Has been laid bare, a lot has been shown to

1241
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,600
Speaker 10: the world about what our allies would be willing to

1242
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:47,679
Speaker 10: do for the United States of America when we undertake

1243
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,679
Speaker 10: an effort of this scope on behalf of the free world.

1244
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 10: These are missiles that don't even range the United States

1245
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 10: of America. They range allies and others, and yet when

1246
01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 10: we ask for additional assistance or simple access facing overflight,

1247
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 10: we get questions or roadblocks or hesitations, and the President's

1248
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 10: pointing out, you don't have much of an alliance if

1249
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:11,680
Speaker 10: you have countries that are not willing to stand with

1250
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 10: you when you need them. He's simply pointing that out,

1251
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 10: and ultimately it'll be his decision of what that looks

1252
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 10: like after this is.

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01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 2: Completely Now, this starts with a post from President Trump.

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01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 3: All of those countries.

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01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 2: That can't get jet fuel because of the Strait of Hormuz,

1256
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,640
Speaker 2: like the United Kingdom, which refused to get involved in

1257
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 2: the decapitation of Iran, I have a suggestion for you.

1258
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 3: Number one, buy from the US.

1259
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 2: We have plenty and number two, build up some delayed courage.

1260
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 2: Go to the Strait and just take it. You'll have

1261
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 2: to start learning how to fight for yourself. The USA

1262
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 2: won't be there to help you anymore, just like you

1263
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 2: weren't there for US. Iran has been essentially decimated. The

1264
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 2: hard part is done. Go get your own oil. President

1265
01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 2: DJT Now, it didn't say thank you for your attention

1266
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 2: to this matter, and I.

1267
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 3: Was very upset by that, very upset by that.

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01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 2: This is a weird and fascinating post because he's calling

1269
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 2: out the UK directly could like the United Kingdom, which

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01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 2: refused to get involved in the decapitation of Iran. I

1271
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 2: have made the case for this and I believe I

1272
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 2: am accurate. You didn't invite the UK to be a

1273
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 2: part of this at the beginning. You invited the mipshow facto.

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01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 2: After the fact, Well, nobody wants to be a part

1275
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:33,640
Speaker 2: of the thing after the fact. They want to be

1276
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 2: seen as leading against this regime, against the terrorists, the

1277
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 2: threat to the nation, seen as a leader on the

1278
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:42,680
Speaker 2: world stage. They don't want to be like, oh, well

1279
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 2: Trump told us we have to do this, so come on,

1280
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 2: we have to do this. All politics are local and

1281
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 2: there was no way for kure Starmin, no matter how

1282
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 2: terrible he is, to sell that to the British people.

1283
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 3: He couldn't do it. So he didn't. And I don't

1284
01:24:54,400 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 3: understand how people are surprised by this. But if we had.

1285
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 2: Heard that the Royal Navy was going to come and

1286
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 2: help them keep the straight open, where the hell are they?

1287
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 3: Why isn't that happening.

1288
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 2: So the idea of get off your butt, set's your oil,

1289
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 2: go do something about it. I believe it's accurate. Now

1290
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 2: I think it's an interesting statement. You'll have to start

1291
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,640
Speaker 2: learning how to fight for yourself. The USA won't be

1292
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 2: there to help you anymore, just like you weren't there

1293
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 2: for us. There is one way to take this, and

1294
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 2: that is did President Trump just change foreign policy and

1295
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 2: our dealings with Great Britain? And ally did did we

1296
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 2: just change statecraft?

1297
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 3: Right here? Did anybody tell Marco Rubio?

1298
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 2: Right? That's one way you can take it. The other

1299
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 2: way is, oh, you're not going to show up for us?

1300
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 3: Do you know what? Screw you? Screw your mom?

1301
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 2: Oh, and by the way, your sister's fat like it's

1302
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:52,640
Speaker 2: that and you say to me, what do you mean

1303
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Speaker 2: they weren't there for you.

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01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 3: This brings us to a story about.

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01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:59,679
Speaker 2: France, and you realize that he's utilizing the UK as

1306
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 2: a as his focus, but it isn't the whole story.

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01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 2: France denied Israel in the US flights over their territory.

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01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 2: Trump writing on true social the country of France wouldn't

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Speaker 2: let planes headed to Israel loaded up with military supplies

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Speaker 2: fly over to French territory. France has been very unhelpful

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Speaker 2: with respect to the butcher of Iran, who has been

1312
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Speaker 2: successfully eliminated. The USA will remember damn mother straight. I

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Speaker 2: believe I left out a word there. I believe I

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01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 2: left out a word. Can we check with the judges?

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Speaker 2: I did I.

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01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 3: Left out a word?

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01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 2: Damn straight. You don't let us fly over your airspace?

1318
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 2: You NATO nation. I don't want to be friendly. I

1319
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 2: think the next time you see Emmanuel Macron, mister president,

1320
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 2: and then he tries to stick out his hand, you

1321
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 2: tell him to kiss off and then let's talk about

1322
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Speaker 2: his mother.

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Speaker 3: You don't let us fly over? Are you out of

1324
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 3: your skulls?

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Speaker 2: That requires a repercussion that reminds France who they are

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01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 2: in the game.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to agree with us. I do not

1328
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 3: require this.

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Speaker 2: I'm the one who made the argument that it is

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01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 2: not surprising that they did not jump to assist because

1331
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 2: they didn't want to be seen that way. They need

1332
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 2: to be seen strong to their own people. Trump has

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01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 2: to recognize this, understand this. All politics are local, as

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01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 2: we've stated, and that's real. You don't let Americans fly

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01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 2: over your airspace? No, no, no, it's that That is

1336
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 2: not how a friend treats a friend. And if you

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01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 2: ain't a friend, then what the hell are you? I

1338
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 2: think we need to make some serious moves to let

1339
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 2: France know that that simply won't be tolerated. That's not acceptable.

1340
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 2: You know, it's better if we take out the Iyatola.

1341
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 2: You know it's better we and this regime. Why would

1342
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 2: you get in the way. Are you afraid of all

1343
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 2: the Islamists you've imported into the country because your mass

1344
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 2: migration nonsense is nonsense and destroying French culture too bad?

1345
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,639
Speaker 3: Maybe if you steed up to them, you would help us.

1346
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:23,799
Speaker 2: Stand up to the terrorist, the Iyatola and this disgusting regime,

1347
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:27,719
Speaker 2: all of whom in it have to die. Not because

1348
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 2: I say so, but because if they don't, Americans die,

1349
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 2: and of course Europeans die, and we don't want this anymore.

1350
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 3: President Trump should not let this go.

1351
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 2: You want to slap around the UK, you can, but

1352
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 2: France deserves every bit of derision and they should feel

1353
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:54,759
Speaker 2: the heat because that's unacceptable. That's not going to work.

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01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 2: That is not what a friend does. You gave us

1355
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 2: a statue, and we gave you our boys a pon duac.

1356
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,719
Speaker 2: When we need to fly over to make sure American

1357
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 2: lives are safe, you say right this way.

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01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 3: My friends think that we don't know how this is

1359
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 3: going to end.

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Speaker 2: And Pete hex Seth is of course, right, fifteen different possibilities,

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01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 2: and I'm sure there's one hundred and fifty possibilities, and

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01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 2: my faith is with them, and I want to see

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01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 2: this regime gun.

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01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 3: Nations that made it more.

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01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 2: Difficult, not that didn't necessarily cooperate, but got in the way.

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01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 2: That should be remembered and it should be remembered forever.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today. So it's an eight one

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Speaker 2: decision on Chile's versus Salazar Supreme Court striking down Colorado's

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01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 2: minor conversion therapy law. They say it's a violation of

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01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 2: the First Amendment, and they're right Gorsich with the decision. Me.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. The show is Tony Katz today, saying

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01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 2: that the law regulated speech based on viewpoint, failed scrutiny.

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01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:06,919
Speaker 2: What they wanted to say is you, as a therapist,

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01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,520
Speaker 2: couldnot tell a boy, well, you're not a girl.

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01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 3: You're a boy. That's what Colorado wanted.

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01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 2: These people are sick, dangerous and twisted. They really want

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01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 2: to abuse children, and they don't ever want children to

1378
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 2: know the reality. They want all the space in the

1379
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:27,560
Speaker 2: world to keep the abuse up. So this overturns the

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01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:30,759
Speaker 2: lower court rulings that upheld the law, and it signals

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01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:35,680
Speaker 2: that talk therapy cannot be broadly categorized as professional conduct

1382
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:40,639
Speaker 2: exempt from First Amendment protection. The person who ruled against

1383
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 2: it Katanji Brown Jackson. Katanji Brown Jackson with the descent,

1384
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 2: and according to sources, her descent was longer than Gorsuch's

1385
01:30:54,120 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 2: opinion and Kagan's concurrence with it. So argument is that

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01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:05,519
Speaker 2: everybody missed. The big point is that they're providing therapy

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01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 2: as licensed healthcare professionals rather than speaking in abstracts, and

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01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 2: that the decision quote threatens to impair state's ability.

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01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 3: That's recording the article, so not her quote.

1390
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 2: It threatens to impair state's ability to regulate the provision

1391
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 2: of medical care, extending constitutional protections into uncharted territory. Do

1392
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 2: I trust Brett Capitol, Do I trust Amy Cony Barrett?

1393
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 2: Do I trust Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito? Or do

1394
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 2: I trust Katanji Brown Jackson, who cannot even tell you

1395
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 2: what a woman is?

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01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, her impeachment can't happen soon enough. This is

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01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:45,840
Speaker 3: Tony Kax today.

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01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 2: So we all understand that there are spies from other

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01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:56,600
Speaker 2: countries in the United States, or keeping an eye in

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01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 2: the United States, and we understand that we the United States,

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01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 2: we have spies in other countries or keeping an eye

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01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 2: on other countries. I don't think this is new to anybody,

1403
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 2: shocking to anybody. I don't think this is a well

1404
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 2: I always assumed, but I didn't know it was real.

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01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:12,759
Speaker 3: It's real.

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01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today. Good to be here, good

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01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:18,800
Speaker 2: to be with you. Find everything I do over at

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01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:24,639
Speaker 2: tonycats dot com. The question is, should we be inviting spies,

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01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:27,879
Speaker 2: opening the door for the opportunity for spies.

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Speaker 3: I am a full.

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01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 2: On believer that that's what we're doing when we allow

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01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 2: the Communist Chinese Party to have student visas.

1413
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:39,000
Speaker 3: President Trump is wrong.

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01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 2: We should not allow student visas for educational purposes at all.

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01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 2: To the Communist Chinese. Nope, we don't have this. We

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01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 2: don't allow this. Oh call me any name you want.

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01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 2: This is a conversation of national security day in and

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01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:57,719
Speaker 2: day out, time and time and time and time again.

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01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 2: We hear about home. They've got viruses working at this lab.

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01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,639
Speaker 2: They're doing things over here. We knew about the Confucius Institutes.

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01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 2: The Confucius Institutes were these situations. These these not buildings,

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01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:18,800
Speaker 2: but clubs set up, and these clubs were to help

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01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 2: bring a better understanding of Chinese culture.

1424
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 3: That's not what they did.

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01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 2: The Confucians institutes were there to try and stop anybody

1426
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:32,479
Speaker 2: from saying anything on campus bad about the Communist Chinese Party.

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01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 2: It was propaganda from beginning to end, trying to threaten

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01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 2: and intimidate people to keep them from speaking out. The

1429
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 2: Communist Chinese Party is awful and terrible. I know I'm

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01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:44,720
Speaker 2: never going to get to go to China. I have

1431
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 2: to be elected president to be able to go to China.

1432
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 2: The Communist Chinese Party is horrifying. I'm never going to

1433
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:53,240
Speaker 2: see the terra Cotta soldiers, and that's the way it goes.

1434
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 2: I will never walk the Great Wall of China, and

1435
01:33:55,400 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 2: that's too bad, because I would love to. But reality is.

1436
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:03,440
Speaker 3: What it is. The Communists, all Communists are horrifying.

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01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 2: All Communists are rooted in an absolute evil, and they

1438
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:11,839
Speaker 2: have somehow convinced themselves that they provide a value.

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01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 3: It's disgusting, it's despicable.

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01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 2: It's immoral, it is a moral It is horrifying that

1441
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:20,679
Speaker 2: this could take place and that we have twenty somethings

1442
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:23,600
Speaker 2: in America who good look at zarimm Donni or Bernie Sanders.

1443
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:25,720
Speaker 3: And say, yep, that's the way. We have failed in

1444
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:26,280
Speaker 3: our task.

1445
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 2: And part of the failure is we have allowed true

1446
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:32,639
Speaker 2: indoctrination to take place. We have allowed manipulation to take

1447
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:35,800
Speaker 2: place in the university set and in younger sets, and

1448
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 2: we did not move fast enough.

1449
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 3: To stop it.

1450
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 2: They have gotten a serious foothold in not just a

1451
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 2: toe hold. They have got their claws in deep to

1452
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 2: a lot of our kids. And it's our job to

1453
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:51,800
Speaker 2: rip them out and throw them away. This ideology, this communism,

1454
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 2: this horror of progressivism, needs to lose, and we need

1455
01:34:58,080 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 2: to make.

1456
01:34:58,400 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 3: Sure it loses.

1457
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 2: And part of that is not allowing that influence, and

1458
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:06,880
Speaker 2: certainly not allowing people who are a danger to the

1459
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:10,679
Speaker 2: American populace, and that is anybody connected to the Chinese

1460
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 2: Communist Party, because they want to harm the population that

1461
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 2: is the United States. They want to do away with

1462
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 2: Western civilization. They want to be the top dog. So

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01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:24,439
Speaker 2: we have this spy conversation. Now, many of you are

1464
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 2: fully aware that Representative Eric Swalwell was involved with a

1465
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:34,920
Speaker 2: Chinese spy. This was a woman on his staff who

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01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 2: helped with fundraising, known as Christine Fang and in other

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01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:40,599
Speaker 2: circles was known as Fang Feng.

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01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 3: Not only did she help.

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01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 2: Swalwell, By the way, Swalwell's a low guy, he really

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01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:50,519
Speaker 2: and truly is. And the story was always that he

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01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 2: was having a intimate relationship with this spy. And I

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01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:57,559
Speaker 2: say to you, I don't believe he was. I don't

1473
01:35:57,560 --> 01:35:59,839
Speaker 2: think he ever could have made that happen. He couldn't

1474
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:02,799
Speaker 2: even in land the spy who was there to shag him.

1475
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 2: She placed an intern in his office in the twenty

1476
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 2: fourteen campaign cycle. Now, he, as The Hill has it reported,

1477
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 2: was not accused of criminal wrongdoing. He stopped dealing with

1478
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 2: Fang in twenty fifteen after being briefed by US intelligence

1479
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:22,680
Speaker 2: officials on their suspicions of her. And then there was

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01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:25,719
Speaker 2: a House ethics probe and that concluded in twenty twenty

1481
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 2: three without taking any further action. That is not to

1482
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 2: say that Eric Swawell is all innocent. Not taking further

1483
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 2: action is different than a proclamation of not guilty or

1484
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:42,840
Speaker 2: of any innocence whatsoever. So what's being discussed right now

1485
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 2: is Cash Pattel, the FBI director. He's pushing for the

1486
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 2: release of the files related to an investigation into Swawell's

1487
01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:54,280
Speaker 2: interactions with the spy. This, according to The New York

1488
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:58,599
Speaker 2: Times and the Washington Post. So FBI agents there personnel

1489
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:01,479
Speaker 2: in California, where he's running for governor. He's currently congressman

1490
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 2: from California. They've been directed to gather a dack sensitive information,

1491
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 2: according to The Hill, and these documents we used in

1492
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 2: preparation for sharing with senior Trump officials. This, according to

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01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:17,520
Speaker 2: people familiar with the matter. Swawell is furious.

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01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 3: Now.

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01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 2: Swawell's saying, they're so desperate to try and stop me

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01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:22,040
Speaker 2: because I'm running for governor.

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01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:25,560
Speaker 3: I'm the favorite. He's not actually the favorite.

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01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:29,800
Speaker 2: There's a lot of different polling out of California, including

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01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:36,679
Speaker 2: the fact that two Republicans might top the polling, which

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01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:40,479
Speaker 2: would be very very interesting stuff if that was the case.

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01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 2: Because of the way they do things, you could have

1502
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:51,600
Speaker 2: two Republicans running to be the next governor.

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01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:58,439
Speaker 3: Of California. It's fascinating. Will it happen? I don't know that.

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01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 2: Can it happen, Absolutely absolutely, it can happen. Let me

1505
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:08,200
Speaker 2: see where we are. Let me see if I have

1506
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:17,120
Speaker 2: California polling right here, Emerson has Swawall plus four. Berkeley

1507
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:22,680
Speaker 2: and PBIC have Hilton, Steve Hilton at plus one, And

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01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:25,080
Speaker 2: so when you take a look at the last poll,

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01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 2: it was the Berkeley pole has Hilton at seventeen and

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01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 2: Blanco another Bianco, No Blanco? Is it Bianco or Blanco?

1511
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 2: I always thought it was Blanco. Oh no, it's Bianco.

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01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:43,720
Speaker 2: Sorry my mistake, Chad Bianco. All right, that's better. That's

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01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 2: right at sixteen and Swallall's in. It's tied for third place.

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01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:53,639
Speaker 2: So this is a tight, tight race. And Swawall is

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Speaker 2: absolutely not the favorite in this race.

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Speaker 3: Right now, Steve Hilton is the guy running.

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Speaker 2: If you know the name Steve Hilton, it's because you

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01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:03,680
Speaker 2: know it because he was a hosted Fox. He had

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01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 2: the weekend show over at Fox. I never met him,

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01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:09,840
Speaker 2: I never worked with him. But right now he's doing

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01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:14,760
Speaker 2: very very well and hopefully that does indeed continue. So

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01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:17,840
Speaker 2: Swawell saying, well, this is just because I'm doing so well.

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Speaker 2: It's not because you're doing so well.

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump and Cash Hotel do not get to pick

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Speaker 3: the next governor.

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Speaker 2: No, you're right about that, but they can endorse or

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01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:29,760
Speaker 2: at least the President can and certainly if you were

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01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:32,559
Speaker 2: involved with a spy, we can ask questions about it.

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01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 2: But I bring this up because we have an issue

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01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 2: with spies. This is a story that was reported by

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01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 2: CBS News. So this is the clip they put up

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Speaker 2: that a Stanford student, her name is Elsa Johnson, she

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01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:56,600
Speaker 2: is making the claim that she was targeted by a

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01:39:56,680 --> 01:40:00,680
Speaker 2: Chinese spy, and then they were relentless and trying to

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01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 2: get her to not talk about their interactions.

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Speaker 3: This is Elsa Johnson and then the reporter.

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01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:10,520
Speaker 11: I'm here because I was personally targeted by a suspected

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01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:14,080
Speaker 11: agent of the Chinese Communist Party while conducting research at Stanford.

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01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:17,759
Speaker 6: A Chinese spy trying to recruit an American college student.

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Speaker 6: That's exactly what happened to Elsa Johnson. She's a Stanford student,

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01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 6: she's a junior now, and her freshman year she was

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01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:31,360
Speaker 6: working on a research project looking at Chinese business and

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01:40:31,439 --> 01:40:35,400
Speaker 6: the military. And guess what. She started receiving messages from

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01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:39,759
Speaker 6: a man who had images of Stanford and his profile

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01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 6: made it seem like he was affiliated with the university,

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01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 6: trying to engage her in conversation, trying to get her

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01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 6: to come to China. Take a listen to what she

1548
01:40:49,240 --> 01:40:50,880
Speaker 6: had to say on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 11: A man calling himself Charles Chen reached out to me

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01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:57,519
Speaker 11: on social media. He had mutual followers with me and

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01:40:57,560 --> 01:41:01,120
Speaker 11: photos of Stanford on his profile. Over the following weeks,

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01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:04,840
Speaker 11: he asked detailed questions about my background, offered to pay

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01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:07,680
Speaker 11: for a trip to China, sent me a flight itinerary

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01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:11,080
Speaker 11: to Shanghai, and pressured me to move our conversation to Wicha,

1555
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:13,400
Speaker 11: an app that is monitored by the CCP.

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01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:17,640
Speaker 6: Things escalated at one point she felt so uncomfortable she

1557
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 6: started taking screenshots of the conversation.

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01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:23,400
Speaker 11: He publicly commented on one of my Instagram posts in

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01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:26,680
Speaker 11: Mandarin asking me to delete screenshots I had taken of

1560
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 11: our conversation. I do not know how he knew I

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01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 11: had these screenshots.

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Speaker 6: The FBI did tell her earlier this year at his

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01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:39,280
Speaker 6: academic year that she was actually being physically monitored on

1564
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:41,760
Speaker 6: campus and that her family was too.

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01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:45,640
Speaker 11: The FBI confirmed he had no affiliation with Stanford. He

1566
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:48,880
Speaker 11: was likely operating on behalf of China's Ministry of State Security.

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01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:51,560
Speaker 11: I was one of at least ten female students he

1568
01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:56,320
Speaker 11: targeted since twenty twenty. After my co author, Garrett molloy,

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01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:57,840
Speaker 11: and I published our investigation.

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01:41:58,640 --> 01:41:59,879
Speaker 3: The incidents worsened.

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01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 11: I began receiving intimidation calls where callers would switch to

1572
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 11: Mandarin and in one case the caller referenced my mother.

1573
01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:10,160
Speaker 11: Just this week, I received another call from US number.

1574
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:13,360
Speaker 11: After exchanging hellos, the caller switched to Mandarin and asked

1575
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:18,120
Speaker 11: whether I had finished dinner. I have also received threatening

1576
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:21,040
Speaker 11: scam emails attempting to convince me to take down my

1577
01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:22,520
Speaker 11: reporting on this issue.

1578
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:25,679
Speaker 6: So this is a really scary thing. And guess what,

1579
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:30,280
Speaker 6: it's not a brand new Chinese operatives have been trying

1580
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:35,760
Speaker 6: to infiltrate various American institutions for years, for decades, and

1581
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:38,799
Speaker 6: in fact, back about fifteen years ago, I was covering

1582
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 6: China a lot. I had studied in China, lived in Nanjing,

1583
01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 6: did my graduate work there, and I started doing stories

1584
01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:53,200
Speaker 6: on China and I was flooded with invitations from people

1585
01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:56,160
Speaker 6: reaching out to me in Mandarin, and I never responded

1586
01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 6: to any of them. But I wonder if I had,

1587
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:01,240
Speaker 6: if something like this would have happened at the time

1588
01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 6: I worked at ABC News.

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01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:06,600
Speaker 3: It probably would have happened. I mean, this is just

1590
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 3: one story.

1591
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:10,840
Speaker 2: Wait till we find out that there are hundreds of

1592
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:14,639
Speaker 2: these stories or tens of these stories, It wouldn't matter.

1593
01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:18,760
Speaker 2: This is happening, and the question we have to ask

1594
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:22,120
Speaker 2: ourselves is what is our plan? How do we want

1595
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:25,720
Speaker 2: to deal with this? How do we want to safeguard

1596
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 2: against this? Well, first, we must be clear that it happens,

1597
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:33,480
Speaker 2: and we must be clear that anybody who is associating

1598
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:35,160
Speaker 2: with the spies.

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01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:36,680
Speaker 3: Needs to at least be looked at.

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01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:39,759
Speaker 2: I do not argue that they did anything wrong, because

1601
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:41,719
Speaker 2: it is very possible that they're being duped.

1602
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:42,479
Speaker 3: They're being used.

1603
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:45,040
Speaker 2: Remember, no one believes the con more than the mark

1604
01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:52,840
Speaker 2: absolutely true. But one way these things are limited is

1605
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:56,040
Speaker 2: if you do not allow anybody connected to the party

1606
01:43:56,120 --> 01:44:00,960
Speaker 2: in the country. So we start where we start, any

1607
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:04,760
Speaker 2: single able bodied mail Chinese coming through the border. The

1608
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:06,719
Speaker 2: answer is no, We send them right back. We don't

1609
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:10,000
Speaker 2: care what they claim. It is a one hundred return

1610
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 2: to sender. We send you back. That's what we do.

1611
01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:20,559
Speaker 2: We have to start there. Then we put an end

1612
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:23,799
Speaker 2: to all student visas from China.

1613
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 3: The answer is no. If universities then.

1614
01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:29,200
Speaker 2: Claim that they're not going to be able to survive

1615
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:31,519
Speaker 2: because They rely on this money, and these students pay

1616
01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:36,599
Speaker 2: full freight right. They pay the non in state out

1617
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 2: of state intuition and costs, so they pay more. Don't care.

1618
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:44,880
Speaker 2: We can handle having less universities. We don't need the

1619
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:50,800
Speaker 2: university to stay afloat at the expense of American security.

1620
01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 2: Don't care that much about the university. Tell the professors

1621
01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:56,879
Speaker 2: to get real jobs. Don't want to hear about their problems.

1622
01:44:57,600 --> 01:45:00,920
Speaker 2: Don't want to hear about anything other than we're protecting

1623
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 2: the nation and ensuring that the rights of the citizens

1624
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:11,680
Speaker 2: remain intact, the rights of the communist Chinese national. I

1625
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:13,360
Speaker 2: don't give a damn about the rights of the communist

1626
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 2: Chinese national in the United States. They make careen China.

1627
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 2: I can't tell them not to karen China, but I

1628
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:22,920
Speaker 2: don't care about it in the US at all. Then,

1629
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:28,559
Speaker 2: anybody associating with knowingly associating with a communist spy, a

1630
01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:33,080
Speaker 2: Chinese spy, or really any spy, we need public penalties

1631
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:37,960
Speaker 2: of severity. I know they're a spy, and I'm assisting

1632
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:45,640
Speaker 2: it leads to massive, massive, massive penalties, up to and

1633
01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:48,639
Speaker 2: including the big stuff. Now, I am not a death

1634
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:55,360
Speaker 2: penalty guy. I'm not, but I am willing to entertain

1635
01:45:55,520 --> 01:46:00,720
Speaker 2: when it comes to spying on the nation or smuggling

1636
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:04,040
Speaker 2: in viruses into the nation, I'm willing to entertain it

1637
01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:09,000
Speaker 2: all because we have to end this. It's us or them,

1638
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:15,400
Speaker 2: that's the story. So let's be clear. This woman in Stanford,

1639
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:19,800
Speaker 2: Elsa Johnson's making it clear. The story of Fangfang makes

1640
01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:23,920
Speaker 2: it clear. The Communist Chinese Party doesn't believe in our

1641
01:46:23,960 --> 01:46:27,080
Speaker 2: existence and our growth and our future. They believe in

1642
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 2: the end of us. So let's stop them. Let's be

1643
01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:34,840
Speaker 2: wide eyed, let's not kid ourselves, let's not lie to ourselves.

1644
01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:38,760
Speaker 2: It's us are them, and I choose us. This is

1645
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:42,120
Speaker 2: Tony Kats Today. I'm filling in for Sean Spicer today

1646
01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 2: on the Sewn Spicer Show. Tony Katz Tony Kats Today.

1647
01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:48,880
Speaker 2: So that's gonna air this evening. If you missed it,

1648
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:50,840
Speaker 2: don't worry. They've got a repeat. You can get it

1649
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:53,760
Speaker 2: on on YouTube. It plays on the first. How do

1650
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:56,120
Speaker 2: I not have a show on the first? I mean

1651
01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 2: I do two radio shows today. I do eat, drink, smoke.

1652
01:46:58,320 --> 01:46:58,960
Speaker 3: I've got time.

1653
01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:03,599
Speaker 2: Come on, we have time for a little TV fun

1654
01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:07,400
Speaker 2: and jocularity. Why not Sean has always been very very

1655
01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:11,640
Speaker 2: nice to me, and I do appreciate it and I

1656
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:15,800
Speaker 2: hope he's well. And they were like, hey, do you

1657
01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:18,320
Speaker 2: have the ability to fill in. I'm gonna absolutely be

1658
01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:20,559
Speaker 2: a pleasure to fill in for Sean. So I'm scheduled

1659
01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:24,639
Speaker 2: to do that. That will be six pm Eastern tonight.

1660
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:26,280
Speaker 2: And again, if you missed it, because some people get

1661
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:30,320
Speaker 2: the show later, listen to the podcast. I'll have the show.

1662
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:32,760
Speaker 2: They have clips on YouTube. I've the host show. I

1663
01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 2: will post it over at Tony kats dot com so

1664
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 2: you can see it for yourself.

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Speaker 3: It is going to be a joy and a treat.

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01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:41,360
Speaker 3: I don't know for me. I think it's a little

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01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:44,320
Speaker 3: bit of a not for them, right, I'm not auditioning.

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Speaker 2: It's a test run for me to the idea of

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01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 2: you know, I talk about TV, but would I actually

1670
01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:50,760
Speaker 2: want to do it?

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Speaker 3: But I actually want to.

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Speaker 2: Do this and add this to the things, And I

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01:47:54,479 --> 01:47:56,479
Speaker 2: think the answer is how much?

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 2: I think the answer is sure, but it'd have to

1676
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:01,840
Speaker 2: be my kind of show, not the kind of shows

1677
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:04,439
Speaker 2: you already see on the air. Meanwhile, Shawn Spicer the

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Speaker 2: first I'm filling in, so be a tuning in find

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Speaker 2: everything at Tonycots dot com.

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow, everyone, take care,