1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Lie from the heartland and the crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: Tony Cats today, one step closer to piece maybe. 3 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: Possibly, I certainly hope so, But how is it going 4 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: to happen without American troops? Because already, already President Trump 5 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: has said so. He said so on Fox you heard 6 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: the it said from Caroline Levitt, the Press secretary. So 7 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 2: no American troops involved in trying to create a peace 8 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: deal between Russia and Ukraine. Meanwhile, Russia launching a major 9 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: bombing attack very very close to the NATO border. It 10 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 2: was the Romanian's Ministry of Defense pushing out to German 11 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: aircraft stationed at this Romanian base as part of NATO's 12 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: Enhanced Air Policing Mission. 13 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 3: They were there to monitor the situation. 14 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: So Putin is saying all the right things but doing 15 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: exactly what he does, which is lying. So does anybody 16 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: believe that a deal can be made? Or do you 17 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: at least try to make the deal before the next step? 18 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: Did I say, hello, Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good 19 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: to be with you eight three to three got Tony 20 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 2: eight three three four six eight eight six six' nine 21 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: eight three three Got tony streaming live YouTube twitter X, Facebook, 22 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: Facebook Tony Cats, Radio twitter X Tony Cats. YouTube Tony 23 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: cats join the, chat say, hello happy to talk to. 24 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 3: YOU i am only hopeful That. 25 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: President trump doesn't have to be somebody who goes back 26 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: on those Regarding american troops on the ground in creating 27 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: some kind of, piece deal in creating some kind of lasting, 28 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: piece because certainly what we can are argue is that in. 29 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,839 Speaker 3: Order for there to be any lasting, piece. 30 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: There's going to have to be some type of. MISSION 31 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: i am not arguing in favor Of american troops on the. 32 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: GROUND i want to make Sure i'm perfectly clear. THERE 33 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: i am saying that if you think this is going 34 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 2: to happen without some level of security, forces well that's 35 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: just not. Possible of, course there's going to be some 36 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: level of security guarantees going. 37 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 3: On this is. Happening there's a clear path. 38 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: To The europeans doing this because it is in their 39 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: best interest to do. 40 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: So it is they who are the ones who have to. 41 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: Who have to figure out how they stay, secure And 42 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: ukraine as a buffer From poland and other places is 43 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: the way to do. It it's the only way to do. 44 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: It so you Keep ukraine there and you want them 45 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: to be. Victorious you put in that either THAT nato 46 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: mission or something, else something from just The european. 47 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 3: Powers you have it supported By. 48 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: American, hardware Where ukraine has already said they'll buy one 49 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 2: hundred billion dollars worth of our. GOODS nato is already 50 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: Buying american, power meaning our military. 51 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: Power and that's the. 52 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: Deal but there was a conversation about whether or not 53 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: THE us would engage. 54 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 3: Pilots you so basically you're talking about some level of 55 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 3: a no fly. 56 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 2: Zone, yeah that's probably the way it's gonna. 57 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 3: Work it's not the way it's gonna. Work. 58 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: Now on the, comments someone says THAT i have become 59 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: a neo. Con why are you defending a country That 60 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: congress cuts weapon off in twenty eighteen because there were 61 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: too Many nazis in the. 62 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 3: Military listen to me very very, carefully if you. 63 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 2: Will no part of me has ever said That ukraine 64 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: is some kind of great. PLACE i am not making 65 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: that argument at. All i'm making the argument That russia's the. 66 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: Aggressor this is not a. Debate russia is an expansion is. 67 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: Power i'm willing to debate this all day. Long i've 68 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: got history on my, side and most, IMPORTANTLY i don't 69 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: WANT nato drawn into, anything because THEN i, am like, 70 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: you compelled to engage Via article. Five it's not a 71 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 2: neocon thing to note That russia is the aggressor and 72 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: we should Support ukraine and being able to push Back. 73 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: Russia as a matter of, fact to say it's a 74 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: neocon thing is one of the most bull crap THINGS 75 00:05:54,680 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 2: i have come. Across it is non. Sensical do you 76 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: think That Vladimir putin is somehow a guy who lives 77 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: up to his. 78 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 3: WORD i don't think you've been paying. 79 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: Attention Vladimir putin is the guy who Told, trump sure 80 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: we can do, This sure we can do, that and 81 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: then engage more drone, attacks Upsetting trump or just somehow 82 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: that not a. Thing, sorry you can call me a 83 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 2: Neo khan from now to the end of. Time it 84 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 2: doesn't move me at. All to, me, moreover it shows 85 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: a lack of understanding of the situation that everybody is. 86 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 2: In if you want to Say ukraine you're on your, 87 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: own that's, fine but that MEANS nato is, next and 88 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 2: that means that means we're gonna have to get. Involved 89 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 2: that's what it, means right it's comments like. This what 90 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: About Boris, johnson who was Then Prime minister of The United, 91 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: kingdom who told him not to sign aapiece deal Meaning. 92 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: Ukraine, Well i'm going to now ask the question this. 93 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: Way i'm here right. 94 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: Now what is it that you want the world that 95 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: you want or the world that, is because if you 96 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: want the world that you, want, well then allow me 97 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: to introduce you to being a. LIBERAL i have to 98 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: live in the world as it, is AND i have 99 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: to figure out how to deal in that. World in that, 100 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 2: world If russia is able to Take ukraine And, toto 101 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: Then poland is, next AND, i as An american and, 102 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: you as An, american are now going to have to 103 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: deal with that Via article. Five we will be dragged 104 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,559 Speaker 2: into a. War isn't it better to give these people 105 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: bullets right? Now isn't it better to give The ukrainians 106 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: bullets right now to keep that from. Happening if you 107 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: want to keep arguing how bad The ukrainians, are you, 108 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: can but The russians will advance Because putin will. Advance 109 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: so SINCE i understand, this and The europeans understand, this 110 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: AND i am pretty Positive trump understands, this what are 111 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: we talking about you say to me as you do 112 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: in the, comments and when they attack A nato, COUNTRY i, 113 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: say erase them from the. 114 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 3: Earth but until then we don't. 115 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: Know with all due, respect not only is that an 116 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 2: absolutely horrific foreign, Policy i'm going to dismiss it out of. 117 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: Hand how about we do everything possible to stop the 118 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: attack from. Happening how about we engage a concept that 119 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: has well worked for us called. Deterrence you think that 120 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 2: that's all about being a. NEOCON i think that's about. 121 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 2: Safety and if you can engage to terrence with somebody 122 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: else's blood and, treasure CAN i ask what your problem? 123 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: Is this Is trump's entire methodology spelling it out for. 124 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: You i'm countering the pseudo intellectual neocon, argument AND i 125 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: believe it's pseudo, intellectual ALTHOUGH i think you come to 126 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: me in good, faith AND i appreciate THAT i should 127 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 2: be more polite to, you the people who make this. 128 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 3: Argument i'm countering it With trump's own. 129 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: Concepts it costs us, nothing we make, money and we're 130 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 2: doing the right thing engaging in protection because it keeps 131 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: us from having to be involved in a. War CAN 132 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: i ask what the problem? IS i don't see. It 133 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: as a matter of. FACT i think the people who 134 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: were opposed to Sending ukraine guns and bullets and, weaponry 135 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: we're always on the wrong, side and we're not on 136 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: a conservative, side not, once not. Ever caref It's steve 137 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: ben AND i don't care if It's Marjorie Taylor, GREEN 138 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 2: i don't care who it. Was IF i Saw steve, 139 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: TODAY i would talk to him. Today we disagree about some. 140 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 2: Things we move on with our. DAY i don't. Know 141 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: maybe go get a. Steak IF i Saw Marjorie Taylor green, 142 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: TODAY i would laugh in her face and walk, away not, 143 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 2: Interested thank you very. Much this is What trump is 144 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: set in to. Do now we've discussed what it is 145 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: That russia could get out of a potential peace, deal 146 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: and What russia would get out of a potential peace 147 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: deal is the ability to sell. Oil they have only 148 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: one commodity and that is, oil and they want to sell, 149 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 2: it and they want to sell it quite, badly And 150 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: india wants to be able to buy it because they 151 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: are super thirsty and sick and tired of being. Poor 152 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 2: can't blame. Them who in the world wants to be? 153 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: Poor in order to not be? Poor you have to. 154 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 2: Develop in order to, develop you need. Energy and all 155 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: of these lefties who want to say we need green 156 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 2: this and green that are never gonna get these third 157 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 2: world in second world in many, cases first world nations on. 158 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 2: Board because these nations want to grow and they want to, 159 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 2: thrive and to do, so they need. Energy and they're 160 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: not gonna pay exorbitant fees for. Energy when you were 161 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: able to use. Coal they're gonna, say kiss my, coal 162 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: and they're gonna go about setting these things into furnaces 163 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 2: and burning this stuff and pushing it into the. Sky 164 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 2: can't blame. Them they want cheap. Energy india Wants russian. 165 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: Oil drives me, Nuts that's what they. Want they haven't stopped. 166 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 2: Yet they Look trump in the eye, said terrifyle you. 167 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: Want this is still, happening but where your place for data? 168 00:11:55,480 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: Centers russia wants to sell. Oil this is their entire. 169 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 2: Economy but what happens if it goes the other? Way 170 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: If putin Crosses trump and no deal is made and 171 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: is engaging in more of a war Footing Coina, Center Lindsay, graham. 172 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 3: You have Got. 173 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: President trump set to crush The russian. Economy If putin 174 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: avoids talks With. Zelenski so the possibility of this trilateral 175 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: meeting if he doesn't show, up, well here's what. Happens 176 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: would seem to me that in order to make that, 177 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 2: work what you would need to do is Get mody 178 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 2: in the. Room when that makes sense to, everybody The 179 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 2: Prime minister Of, india if this is a really lynchpin 180 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: kind of, place you would get him in the room 181 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 2: to get punin to recognize the financial opportunity being lost 182 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: if he doesn't just take forty two percent of the, 183 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: land sell oil and shut. Up, now WHEN i say 184 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: that forty two percent of the, land sell oil and shut, 185 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: up who DO i sound? Like that's WHAT i, Thought 186 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: that's WHAT i. Thought so what Does graham? Know what 187 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: Does graham? Believe what basis for his? Arguments WHILE i 188 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 2: leave that to. Others but the carrot is you get 189 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 2: to make Money, russia and the stick is you don't 190 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: ever get to make a. 191 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 3: Dime we're gonna starve you out a Lah reagan And. 192 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 3: Gorbachev so. 193 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: We are one step, closer and one step, closer and 194 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 2: one step, closer and still miles. Away to, me that's 195 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: the most sober look at the SITUATION i could give 196 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: you let's move on keep but Here I'm Tony katz. 197 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 3: In this Is Tony katz. Today so it shouldn't be 198 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 3: a thing of. 199 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 4: Reverence the country's not above, critique but we shouldn't look 200 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 4: at our history with contempt, Either AND i think there 201 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 4: is some room for correction back toward the. Middle and in, 202 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 4: fact you Know Lannie bunch who heads The smithsonian And 203 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 4: Donald trump is An asian job in a letter, there 204 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 4: they're saying quite the same. Things the mission of The 205 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 4: smithsonian is to forged a shared, history a shared, future 206 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 4: not just, context but hope to lead the country and communities. 207 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 4: Together that's essentially the same language That Donald trump is offering. 208 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 4: Here AND i do think there's room to say In 209 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 4: american history what you are, describing that process of a 210 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 4: journey toward greatness is very, real and we all have 211 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 4: something to be incredibly proud. Of and you talk about, 212 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 4: OVERSEAS i think the world and its people if you, 213 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 4: ask if you ask, someone is the world that it's 214 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 4: people better off because of the existence Of america and its. 215 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 4: People to, me the answer is unquestionably. 216 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: Yes that happened ON. Cbs Gail king must have been. 217 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 2: Horrified It's Tony docopol and this story about The smithsonian 218 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: and oh my, gosh they're trying to whitewash The smithsonian 219 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: and they're trying to rewrite. History, well that's what's been. 220 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: Happening what's been going on is the rewrites of, history 221 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: is the hatred of. Self and this is about saying 222 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: what you've been doing is. Wrong i'm all in favor of. 223 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: That Tony, Katz Tony Kats, today good to be. With 224 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: you find everything At tony kats dot. Com the argument, 225 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: is look at what it is that The trump administration is. 226 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: Doing they're trying to erase. History i'm, sorry but if 227 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: we take a look at who has been in control 228 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: of these, institutions what makes you think they're giving us 229 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 2: a proper description and. Depiction if you want to argue 230 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: the evil of, slavery you will not get an argument from. 231 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: Me if you want to argue that slavery is the 232 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: only thing that our past has had to, Offer i'm 233 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 2: not buying. In we should be teaching the, good the, 234 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: great the, bad and the. Ugly we should be studying, 235 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: it remembering, it and going. Forward yes we had, slavery 236 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: and yes half the country had, slavery and yes we 237 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: fought a war where brother killed brother to end. Slavery 238 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: and yes The Democratic party was the party of. 239 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: Slavery but what is that? 240 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 2: Wrong somebody out there want to still talk about the 241 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: Great dixiecrats switch. 242 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: Or whatever nonsense you're talking. About try and be A. 243 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: Democrat today and disagree with The Democratic. Party we'll see 244 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 2: what happens when you try and leave the. Plantation but 245 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: you have A smithsonian that has not focused on. 246 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 3: History it is focused on wokeness and. 247 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 2: That and by the, way this is true of, multiple multiple, 248 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: museums multiple. Organizations of, course it has been the case 249 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: art museums that don't actually focus on. Art, oh there 250 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 2: are too many classics. Here it's too much representation from White. 251 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: Christians is it art or? Not because it came from 252 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: a black atheist or An Asian? 253 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 3: Buddhist is it? Art? 254 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 2: What that's a great. Question not everything a white person 255 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: paints is. Perfect, HONESTLY i know this Because i've seen 256 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 2: What Hunter biden. Does the art itself and the time 257 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 2: period should all be. Appreciated you think there's an issue 258 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 2: with a museum To african, art not in the slightest 259 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 2: and a museum To asian, art not in the, slightest 260 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 2: but to somehow decide that art is inherently. Biased do 261 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: we have to do something about? This oh my, gosh 262 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 2: that's just. Madness, now if you want to have a 263 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 2: private museum and you want to have just one thing 264 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: covered in a biased, way knock yourself. 265 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 3: Out The smithsonian is not. That it's not. That just 266 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 3: so we're, clear The, smithsonian just. 267 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 2: Like many of these, institutions we should be asking what 268 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 2: it is they have been, doing what it is they 269 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 2: have been focused, on and whether or not they have 270 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 2: gone in a direction that creates no value for, you 271 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 2: me and we and we. 272 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 3: Should pull back on. 273 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: That and What tony docopol is saying there ON cbs 274 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 2: this morning is. 275 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 3: FANTASTIC i, mean that's an honest. 276 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: Conversation and if anybody wants to argue that the world 277 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 2: is not better off because Of america's, existence they, can 278 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: but they should be laughed out of the room and 279 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 2: they should not be allowed any political. Positions don't vote 280 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 2: for those. People the hatred Of america is what has to. 281 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 2: End the honesty About america is. Good the hatred is. 282 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: Not and we should push back against the hatred because 283 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 2: those people are wrong and they should. 284 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 3: Lose I'm Tony. Katz this Is Tony kats. 285 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 5: Today Eddie redistancing is not a new, concept, right the 286 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 5: term During. 287 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 3: Mander he's been around for something like two hundred. Years 288 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 3: so why does this moment and this fight feel different 289 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 3: and is it? Different? WELL i think it's an. Echo 290 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 3: first of, all it's great to see, You. 291 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 5: Chris it's an echo of the, past but it's also 292 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 5: a kind of reflection of the crisis that we find ourselves. 293 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 5: In we cannot want To it's entangle what's happening In 294 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 5: texas From trump's demand That texas finding five receipts the. 295 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 5: State that's similar to the call to The secretary Of 296 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 5: state From. Georgia, right it's part of this process of 297 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 5: undermining democratic norms that we feel in this, Moment but 298 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 5: we also need to see it as well as part 299 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 5: of a broader. STRATEGY i think of really disenfranchising black 300 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 5: and brown, voters of. DISMANTLERS i think the infrastructure of 301 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 5: the civil rights movement and its legal. INFRASTRUCTURE i would, say. 302 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 3: Of, course it's all about. Race Tony, Katz Tony katz, 303 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 3: today good to be with. 304 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 2: You Eddie cloud there ON, msnbc which is and Now 305 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 2: i'm going to be ms now. 306 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 3: Whatever. Whatever it is. 307 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 2: The oddest part about redistricting being racial is That Gavin 308 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 2: newsom is going to do it and nobody's discussing. That 309 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 2: no one's discussing. That, First how about the ugliness of 310 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 2: the idea that if you are black you're voting For? 311 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 2: Democrats that is is. 312 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 3: Still haven't we learned anything from this past. Election that's 313 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 3: not the. Case it's not. 314 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: Factual they don't. Care they just say. It all they 315 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 2: do is say. It it has no connectivity to. Reality 316 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 2: there are plenty of black people who are not, liberals 317 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 2: yet somehow redistricting is going to disenfranchise those. 318 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 3: People how so they don't get to? Vote of course they. 319 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: Get to, Vote so what is the Disenfranchising it comes 320 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: from a philosophy that if you are black or, brown 321 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 2: you're going to vote for somebody who is black or. 322 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: Brown my grandmother rest Her Saul Sweet ethyl A Semisweet. 323 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 2: Ethyl she told me THAT i had to vote For 324 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 2: Al gore And Joe lieberman Because Joe lieberman Was. Jewish 325 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 2: Joe lieberman Is, jewish you have to vote for. Him 326 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 2: AND i looked at my grandmother AND i, SAID i love. 327 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 2: You do you have any potato? Salad AND i moved 328 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 2: on with the. Conversation because there was not a CHANCE 329 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: i was going to vote For Joe. Lieberman why in 330 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: the world would anybody THINK i was. DISENFRANCHISED i chose not. 331 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 3: TO i still. 332 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: Voted why is there this, belief there's this philosophy that BECAUSE. 333 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 3: X CHARACTERISTIC, x you're going to. Do why that's the. 334 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 3: Bigotry that's What Eddie gloud is engaged in. 335 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: Here the redistricting fight continues to, pace but now In, 336 00:22:54,119 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 2: texas they're making it happen In texas right, now are 337 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 2: having the. Conversation they are working towards, this getting this. 338 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 2: ACCOMPLISHED i assume that it will pass. Today zaes entire. 339 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 6: Lawyers you give them an, objective which is can you 340 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 6: increase political? Performance the law firm goes out to their own, 341 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 6: office drafts provides you a. Product you discuss with them 342 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 6: if you agree that particular boring as, heck but they're 343 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 6: going through the, process going through the. 344 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 2: REDISTRICTING i think its fascinating to discuss the redistricting is indeed, 345 00:23:54,880 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: racist Because i'm thrilled to HEAR msnbc refer To Gavin 346 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 2: newsom as a, racist as a, bigot as trying to 347 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 2: disenfranchise voters of, color which clearly. 348 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 3: Must be the. 349 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 2: Case if redistricting is de facto disenfranchising voters of, color 350 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 2: that's What Gavin newsom has advocated. For did you See 351 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 2: Gavin newsom trying to go Full Donald? Trump, oh it's 352 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 2: it is, Special it is a. Special he puts out the. 353 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: Post this story here from A national. Review Donald Taco, 354 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 2: trump as many call, Him it's all in, caps it's 355 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 2: all in capitol, letters as many call, him missed the. 356 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 2: Deadline california will now draw, new more beautiful. 357 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 3: Maps they will be, historic as they will end The trump. 358 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 2: Presidency dems take back The, House big press conferences week 359 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 2: with Powerful dems And Gavin newsom your favorite. Governor that 360 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 2: will be devastating FROM, maga thank you for your attention 361 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: to this. Matter what what is? This what possibly is? 362 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 2: THIS i was this supposed to turn people? On was 363 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 2: this supposed to? Work was this supposed to? 364 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 3: Work? Yes or? 365 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: No what is this supposed to? Do democrats are now? 366 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 2: United oh, yeah we're getting A. Trump we'll show him. 367 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 2: Now for the people who don't understand the fight about, 368 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: redistricting and certainly WHERE i come. From here's this comment From. 369 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 2: Clay why When trump said he needed five Seats texas 370 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 2: governor starts to. 371 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 3: Redistrict let's make it make. Sense. Absolutely The president. 372 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 2: Could very well have, said we've got an issue, here 373 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: but the president starts from a. Basis the president's basis 374 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 2: is the census of twenty twenty is, RIDICULOUS covid counting 375 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 2: illegals doesn't make. Sense and look at what's going on With. 376 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 2: Texas it shouldn't be like. 377 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 3: This why is everything done like? This so he mentions. 378 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 3: It he, says so. 379 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: The concept and the actual practice of drawing lines is. 380 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 2: Political there is no surprise the politics get into. Play 381 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 2: and you are not, wrong if you will for saying 382 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: you don't like the. Politics you don't like the politics 383 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 2: of jerry. Mandering that's. Fine that canna get an argument from. 384 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 2: ME i think you're gonna have a lot of people 385 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 2: who agree with. You i've said this. Before the issue 386 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 2: is one that belongs To, texas, though and that the 387 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 2: voters Of texas get to. Decide so if they engage 388 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 2: redistricting In texas And texans don't like. It they can 389 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 2: vote out the members of the state legislature that do. 390 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 2: This they can vote these people. Out it's completely. Fine 391 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: What Gavin newsom did is, say, well we don't like, 392 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: this so we are going to engage in an active. 393 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 2: Retribution the active retribution must be responded to because the 394 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 2: idea of the state Of california SAYING i don't like 395 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 2: What texas, does SO i will purposefully harm my citizenry 396 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: in retribution to what it Is texas is doing is 397 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 2: to be beholden to. Party now you say to, me, 398 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 2: well isn't that What texas is? Doing, Again texas citizens can. 399 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: RESPOND i have faith in. Them What california is doing 400 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 2: is putting a gun to the head of the people 401 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 2: Of texas and saying you can't have your. 402 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 3: Sovereignty that's messed. Up that's messed up. 403 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 2: Stuff which is WHY i say That republicans should be 404 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: engaging and redistricting in every state in to which they are. 405 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 3: In, charge every single. 406 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 2: One, NOW i know that The Vice President Jadie vance 407 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 2: came To indiana to try and get this. 408 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 3: DONE i know they want to get it done. 409 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 2: In, indiana AND i favor the special session so they 410 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,959 Speaker 2: can vote on it so they can discuss it and 411 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 2: vote on a concept of. 412 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 3: Redistricting. 413 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,479 Speaker 2: HERE i think there are other states where maybe they 414 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: could have, started whatever the case may, be but this 415 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 2: is a political process that the people Of texas are 416 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 2: the ones to. 417 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 3: Handle Gavin newsom Wants democrats to handle, it. 418 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: And democrats are all, In, oh we have to protect, 419 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 2: democracy don't you. Know and the only way to protect 420 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 2: democracy is to take all of these states and turn, 421 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: them turn them into get rid of all The republicans. 422 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 2: Running this is what they have, said and it is 423 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 2: so clear that this is the plan that they even 424 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 2: took their world class favorite mouthpiece and put her out 425 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: there to make the. 426 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 3: Case ladies and, gentlemen. 427 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 2: It is time for another rousing rendition Of jasmine crocket. 428 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 3: MASTERPIECE theata. 429 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 2: Representative crockets Of texas took to the airwaves OF cnn to, 430 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 2: say quite, clearly. 431 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 3: Redistricting you, say. 432 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 2: Well when they do, it it is, terrible but when 433 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 2: we do it it is. 434 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 3: FINE i, say fine and beautiful and all together. 435 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 2: Lovely here she is now explaining her insane position. 436 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 7: For some looking At california with the response may also 437 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 7: be The california it is cheating people can say what 438 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 7: they want to, say but at the end of the, 439 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 7: day we are fighting for. Democracy this is not something 440 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 7: That california wants to. 441 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 3: Do as you, well whoa. 442 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: Well people could say what they want to, say but 443 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 2: in the, end we're fighting for. Democracy republicans aren't fighting for. 444 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 2: Democracy Only democrats are fighting for. Democracy But democrats are 445 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: doing are what they're upset With republicans are. Doing but 446 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 2: yet somehow it's good when you want to say goodbye 447 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 2: to grandma as she was dying that you were, told, 448 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: sorry she HAS, covid you can't go see. Her And 449 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 2: grandma died. Alone but when twenty thousand people want to 450 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 2: riot because Of George floyd, masks, masks who? Cares it doesn't, 451 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: matter get out? 452 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 3: There are you crazy? Kids when you do? It it's a 453 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 3: threat when they do. 454 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 7: It but at the end of the, day we are 455 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 7: fighting for. Democracy this is not something That california want 456 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 7: us to. Do as you heard from the state senators In, 457 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 7: california this is something that they feel forced to, do 458 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 7: something they feel obligated to. Do because in a, democracy 459 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 7: you have to answer for your. 460 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 2: Policies the people Of texas should make the legislature answer 461 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: what you're telling the people Of texas where you allegedly represent, 462 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 2: Them Jasmine, crockett is That californians should be the ones 463 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 2: who deliver the. Retribution my, god how much do you 464 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 2: hate the people you? Represent, anyway the redistricting fight will. 465 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 3: Continue keep it. Here I'm Tony. Katz this Is Tony. Katz. 466 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: Today hamas accepted a temporary ceasefire. Proposal but it's a month, 467 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 2: late and now The israelis are saying, No Tony. Kats 468 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 2: Tony kats, today good to be with. You find it 469 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 2: all tonykats dot. Com so this proposal was put forth In. 470 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: July this proposal would have released ten. Hostages there are 471 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 2: believed twenty, alive but fifty overall their bodies and is 472 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,719 Speaker 2: The israelis want them back and they want to give 473 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 2: these people a proper. 474 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 3: Burial it's, important it. 475 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 2: Matters so it was ten, hostages a sixty day pause 476 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 2: in the fighting or turn Of palestinian. Prisoners that was 477 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 2: the deal offered To. Hamas hamas, said well, this, well 478 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 2: that well the other and The israelis left the. Negotiation. Nope, 479 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 2: well Now israel's discussing going right Into Gaza city and 480 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 2: all of a, Sudden you've got other nations say, well 481 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 2: we got to get this. 482 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 3: Fixed we got to get this. 483 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 2: Handled And israel's now said we want all fifty and 484 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 2: then we won't go Into gaza, city but we want all. 485 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 3: Fifty, now what Does hamas? Do they come back, with, 486 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 3: lo we'll give you. Ten we'll give you. Ten calm, 487 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 3: down who slow, Up we'll calm. Down we'll give you. 488 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 3: Ten he'll be. 489 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: Good And israel is now walking back from that legal, 490 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 2: insurrection reporting That israel Re jacksonmas's partial hostage deal wants 491 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 2: release of all. 492 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 3: Captives not surprised by. This i'm also not surprised. 493 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 2: By the idea that this is a negotiation and a 494 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 2: negotiating tactic to get as many people back alive as humanly. 495 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 3: Possible don't get me. 496 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 2: Wrong if there is one bone fragment that is not 497 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 2: returned to The, israelies The israelies will not. Stop you 498 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:47,959 Speaker 2: have to understand how seriously they take the, burial how 499 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 2: Seriously jews take. It if you, will they're not going to. 500 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: Stop they're not going to leave any dust they can 501 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 2: collect In. Gaza won't do. It so they're gonna. End 502 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 2: but to get people back alive. 503 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 3: Matters. More at least that's step number. 504 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 2: ONE i should say it that way because because it's 505 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 2: not the own saying matters. Less AND i think that 506 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: if The israelis have a chance to bring back anybody, 507 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 2: ALIVE i think they're going to do. IT i do 508 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 2: believe that they're going to do it because while the 509 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 2: pressure is On hamas in a massive way to Keep 510 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 2: israel out Of Gaza city to try and bring some 511 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 2: relief to the. 512 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 3: SITUATION i mean there's hard. 513 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 2: Pressure Net yahoo is under pressure from his, people and 514 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 2: the pressure is we want our people, back get it. 515 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 3: Done so. 516 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 2: This this is not over yet in terms of this. 517 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 2: DEAL i do think at this stage it is more 518 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 2: possible than before that we see a hostage deal happen 519 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 2: and a potential cease. 520 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 3: Fire keep it. 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