Speaker 1: Line from ball Hertbind and the Crossroads of America.
Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today.
Speaker 3: Yes, So today the President signed these two executive orders
Speaker 3: here relating to birthright citizenship and birth tourism. As the
Speaker 3: President mentioned, the Fourteenth Amendment was passed exclusively in the aftermath.
Speaker 2: Of the Civil War so that to ensure that the
Speaker 2: children of slaves would these citizens.
Speaker 3: It had no other meaning and purpose outside of it.
Speaker 3: And that's been clear obviously since the day that it
Speaker 3: was passed. You can go back and you can read
Speaker 3: the congressional debate. This is not something that's even seriously
Speaker 3: contested by anybody. The President is using his authority as
Speaker 3: commander in chief, designed first and executive order using the
Speaker 3: new rule the Supreme Court issued to expand the definitions
Speaker 3: of people who are ineligible for birthright citizenship. That includes,
Speaker 3: for example, alien enemies of the United States, members of
Speaker 3: foreign parist organizations, and large categories of people who lobby
Speaker 3: and act on behalf of foreign governments. And so with
Speaker 3: taking this action, it ensures that large numbers of people
Speaker 3: who wrongly would be getting birthright citizenship will no longer
Speaker 3: be eligible for those benefits.
Speaker 4: Anybody upset with this doesn't understand what the Supreme Court said,
Speaker 4: certainly doesn't understand what Kavanaugh said in part of his descent.
Speaker 4: If you're upset with the President moving forward on executive orders,
Speaker 4: if you're upset with Senator Jim Banks moving forward with legislation,
Speaker 4: you don't understand what was said. What you believe is
Speaker 4: that we should accept any abuse of the nation that comes,
Speaker 4: and that the Constitution is a suicide pact.
Speaker 2: It is not, and we should act accordingly.
Speaker 4: Tony Katz Tony Katz today, guys, so good to be
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Speaker 4: Two different conversations here on birthright citizenship from the President
Speaker 4: to different executive orders. And we can agree that someone
Speaker 4: this is you, me sitting on a bar stool. People
Speaker 4: plan having their baby in the United States when they
Speaker 4: live in another country. And I've always lived in another country,
Speaker 4: so they could take advantage of American citizenship. That's messed up.
Speaker 4: That's not its purpose, and we should do something about that.
Speaker 4: What the Supreme Court said in their decision on birthright citizenship,
Speaker 4: is that, yeah, you should do something about that, which
Speaker 4: is really what the Brett Kavanaugh decent was all about.
Speaker 1: But the.
Speaker 4: Argument was that the Constitution says born in the United
Speaker 4: States and subject to the jurisdiction, and what the Court
Speaker 4: said is.
Speaker 2: Born in the United States, is born in the United.
Speaker 4: States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof they didn't really touch.
Speaker 2: I found that to be a questionable stance. But what they.
Speaker 4: Opened the door for is the thing that we should
Speaker 4: at least approve of.
Speaker 2: And this is the hallmark of the John Roberts Court.
Speaker 4: I didn't say it isn't frustrating, and I'm also not
Speaker 4: saying that it's totally proper. When it came to Obamacare
Speaker 4: and allowing Obamacare to exist, what they said was it
Speaker 4: could exist as attacks. Now that was not for the
Speaker 4: role of the Court to decide. If these wanted to
Speaker 4: be a tax, they could go about passing attacks. They
Speaker 4: could do such a thing. But what they did was
Speaker 4: say specifically, this is not a tax. And when the
Speaker 4: Court said it could exist as a tax, they said, okay.
Speaker 2: It's a tax. The Court found a way for it
Speaker 2: to exist and that is where a lot of us,
Speaker 2: going back a great.
Speaker 4: Number of years, have a tremendous amount of disagreement with
Speaker 4: the Supreme Court on Obamacare.
Speaker 2: I have a disagreement with this constantly.
Speaker 4: For example, the Obergafel decision, which is about same sex marriage. Oh,
Speaker 4: this one gets me in trouble all the time because
Speaker 4: some people don't want to listen. If we want to
Speaker 4: pass laws that allow for same sex marriage, pass laws
Speaker 4: same sex marriage. If you remember going back to when
Speaker 4: this was happening, was already winning in the States, it
Speaker 4: was sweeping.
Speaker 2: There was no real issue about it none.
Speaker 4: But what the oberga Fell decision said is that the
Speaker 4: right to same sex marriage exists, which it does not.
Speaker 2: They created it out of hole clock.
Speaker 4: This is my argument against the decision. It's that it's
Speaker 4: unfounded in the Constitution, and you could have just passed
Speaker 4: laws about it and we would not have this issue today.
Speaker 4: My argument is totally one based on system. Why did
Speaker 4: I oppose Roe v. Wade Because what happened to states' rights?
Speaker 4: What happened to the very idea that states can make
Speaker 4: this decision? Different states could do different things. They were
Speaker 4: the Da Dobbs decision, which then led to the overturning
Speaker 4: of Roe v.
Speaker 2: Wade. Didn't end.
Speaker 4: At all, did not end in any way abortion in
Speaker 4: the United States.
Speaker 2: There's still plenty of states that allow it.
Speaker 4: But it was the overreach by the Supreme Court back
Speaker 4: in seventy two, seventy three, seventy two seventy three. It
Speaker 4: was their overreach. And you know who agreed with me,
Speaker 4: the late Ruth Bader Ginsburg. I believe there are moments
Speaker 4: where the Court is overreached. Has she said, definitely went
Speaker 4: overreach of that decision, went too far, went to extreme.
Speaker 2: But in these other cases you're talking about inventing something.
Speaker 4: In the case of birthright citizenship, they certainly did not
Speaker 4: decide to take a deep, detailed look into and subject
Speaker 4: to the jurisdiction thereof when we talked about the fourteenth Amendment.
Speaker 4: But what they left was the door open to this
Speaker 4: concept of if you Congress, this is your job. After all,
Speaker 4: you know, it's Donald Sutherland an animal house.
Speaker 2: I'm serious, this is my job. People. If you want
Speaker 2: to go about creating laws, you can.
Speaker 4: This brings us to Senator Jim Banks, who did exactly this,
Speaker 4: introducing the Citizenship Act of twenty twenty six to end
Speaker 4: birthright citizenship for children of undocked immigrants and birth tourists. Now,
Speaker 4: they all want to talk about what's the difference between
Speaker 4: a tourist and a birth tourist, and we'll get to
Speaker 4: that in a moment. But what we're saying here is
Speaker 4: is that citizenship is not for everybody, and we must
Speaker 4: pare it down, and we can do this via the
Speaker 4: legislative process. The Court challenged Congress to do this, and
Speaker 4: Senator Jim Banks took up that.
Speaker 2: Fight.
Speaker 4: This is Stephen Miller and standing next to President Trump
Speaker 4: in the Oval, explaining these two executive orders on birthright
Speaker 4: citizenship that he assigned.
Speaker 3: The second action that he's taking, which is especially historic,
Speaker 3: is for the first time ever in American history, to
Speaker 3: ban birth tourism.
Speaker 2: So I want you to really let that sink in.
Speaker 2: This has been some of the people have talked about.
Speaker 3: Not only for years, but for decades, the idea that
Speaker 3: people come here pretend to be a tourist, pretend to
Speaker 3: be a visitor, saying they want to go to Disneyland,
Speaker 3: they want to go visit a monument or go to
Speaker 3: a national park. But the real reason they're here is
Speaker 3: to have a child. To make that child with an
Speaker 3: automatic citizen leave our country and then have a US
Speaker 3: citizen child. It gives them access out of this broken
Speaker 3: system to welfare benefits, ultimately to the voting booth, and
Speaker 3: all the other rights and privileges that belong solely to Americans.
Speaker 3: So that practice of birth tourism is as of the
Speaker 3: signing of this order hereby band. And what that means
Speaker 3: is that no one in the world is any more
Speaker 3: allowed to obtain a visa for this fraudulent purpose. It
Speaker 3: is probably and President Trump has done many historic things
Speaker 3: on immigration, too many to listen now, Seal the southern border,
Speaker 3: shut record deportations, record integrity, stopping foreign terrorist entry, record
Speaker 3: reduction in drug seizures, dismantling the criminal cartels, dismantling the gangs.
Speaker 3: For everything he's done that has been so unprecedented, I
Speaker 3: would put this in the top three in terms of
Speaker 3: importance because.
Speaker 2: It ends what has been one of the gravest and most.
Speaker 3: Egregious abuse that of the American system, and it keeps
Speaker 3: the American citizenship sacred.
Speaker 4: Now, I happen to agree with Steven Miller on that point,
Speaker 4: but I want to address the people who are offended
Speaker 4: and appalled by what it is that they're seeing. First,
Speaker 4: as I made clear, the Supreme Court said, intimated, if
Speaker 4: you want to go about changing the law, go right ahead.
Speaker 2: That's up to you. Go do it.
Speaker 4: You have that power. This was the argument on the
Speaker 4: Obamacare case. If you want to get rid of this tax,
Speaker 4: go change the law. Doesn't matter what we said. You're
Speaker 4: allowed to change the law. Your Congress, go to it.
Speaker 4: You gave us a piece of legislation to look at.
Speaker 4: And so what is the constitutionality here? We said, as
Speaker 4: a tax, it's constitutional when there it is.
Speaker 2: The argument against.
Speaker 4: The argument to say it's wrong to end birth tourism
Speaker 4: is to say it is all right to manipulate the
Speaker 4: American system, to manipulate the US constitution, and to have
Speaker 4: children who will never live in the United States, never
Speaker 4: be United States citizens, and will never have a loyalty
Speaker 4: to the United States. It is okay to have them
Speaker 4: growing up and name the country and then have them
Speaker 4: go through that laundry list that Stephen Miller just listed out, voting.
Speaker 2: Being a key amongst them.
Speaker 4: If you are in favor or you are accepting of
Speaker 4: the idea of children being born here living in another
Speaker 4: country for eighteen years and then voting in our elections.
Speaker 4: I would say, you're somebody who wants to do away
Speaker 4: with Western civilization and wants to end America.
Speaker 2: And the answer is no.
Speaker 4: Now I see someone on the chat room saying there's
Speaker 4: no birth tourism.
Speaker 2: Listen, we can't lie. If you don't think that there
Speaker 2: is any.
Speaker 4: Birth tourism that takes place in the United States from China,
Speaker 4: you are flat out lying to everyone, including yourself. I
Speaker 4: want to be clear. It is a lie told by liars.
Speaker 4: Of course it happens. This has been a story in
Speaker 4: California whole, all neighborhoods.
Speaker 2: Where they have this happen.
Speaker 4: This is the Associated Press going back to twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: You know how hard this was to find. This wasn't
Speaker 2: very hard to find.
Speaker 4: California pay convicted in Chinese birth tourism scheme. To say
Speaker 4: it isn't happening is a lie told by liars, and
Speaker 4: you have to call them liars, liars, frauds, bs artists.
Speaker 4: I don't care. And you have to do it. If
Speaker 4: they're family and you have to do it with their friends.
Speaker 4: You have to do it on social media or honestly
Speaker 4: you could just delete them, because they're tools, and you
Speaker 4: have to do it. If you're somebody who's fortunate enough
Speaker 4: like me to be on air and fortunate enough to
Speaker 4: be able to show up in some of these cable
Speaker 4: news outlets and engage in pushing back against these fraudsters,
Speaker 4: that's the story, and you must push back on these things.
Speaker 4: It is clear and it is obvious that allowing for
Speaker 4: this creates the problem, the opportunity for the problem. How
Speaker 4: many times do we talk about voter fraud. You'd rarely
Speaker 4: see somebody showing up to the voting booth claiming to
Speaker 4: be somebody else, But you see ballad stuffing. This is
Speaker 4: what the problems with with mail in ballots. You see
Speaker 4: ballot harvesting, you see lots of issues. You see people
Speaker 4: go to jail for this thing. And what the does
Speaker 4: the left do? The left says, this doesn't happen, and
Speaker 4: we don't need voter ID and we don't they want
Speaker 4: to create the opportunity for fraud. By allowing these things
Speaker 4: to occur, you are allowing for the opportunity for fraud.
Speaker 4: Why would anybody allow for the opportunity for fraud. Why
Speaker 4: in the world would you do it. The last questions
Speaker 4: as silly as well. How many times has it happened?
Speaker 4: Once is enough? You wouldn't allow this to happen in
Speaker 4: any other part of your life, not once. Not Ever,
Speaker 4: you wouldn't allow the opportunity for something like this in
Speaker 4: any part of your life at all. Yet somehow, when
Speaker 4: it comes to voting, yes it's fun.
Speaker 2: When it comes to the safety and security of the nation,
Speaker 2: yes it's fine.
Speaker 4: I did not know that something this basic would be
Speaker 4: part of the culture war. But okay, it's a culture war.
Speaker 2: I'm in. I'm in. We win, you lose. That's the story.
Speaker 2: That's the way it has to be. This is the
Speaker 2: right to move and the right maneuver.
Speaker 4: And anybody who actually cared about the country or favored
Speaker 4: the country would be completely in agreement. Anybody who favors
Speaker 4: the destruction of the country, who favors the manipulation of elections,
Speaker 4: who doesn't care how many false or fraudulent votes come through,
Speaker 4: They'll be fine with whatever happens, because destruction of the
Speaker 4: nation is the name of the game. These are bad people.
Speaker 2: These aren't even American people as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 4: I didn't say you had to like a political party,
Speaker 4: so you had to think a certain way. We're having
Speaker 4: a very baseline conversation here, what do you do to
Speaker 4: protect the vote, and what do you do to say
Speaker 4: a citizen as a citizen someone born in the US
Speaker 4: who lives their life in another country under that's country's practices,
Speaker 4: and then as the ability to vote in our elections,
Speaker 4: that's not a citizen. The court said they could be
Speaker 4: considered a citizen. I say we can change this. Senator
Speaker 4: Jim Banks says we can change this. And I argue
Speaker 4: that the people who don't want to change this are
Speaker 4: the people who want to do harm to the United
Speaker 4: States or open up the opportunity and the capacity for
Speaker 4: harm to be done to the United States. I think
Speaker 4: we should stop them. I think we should cut them
Speaker 4: off at the pass. So let's let's get this legislation through.
Speaker 4: I don't know if these executive orders will hold, by
Speaker 4: the way, I don't know if some signing by the
Speaker 4: President makes this happen. But this is the direction to
Speaker 4: go into. This is the direction. I'm Tony Katz. This
Speaker 4: is Tony Katz today. So here's the update regarding around
Speaker 4: Nothing's new. There's absolutely nothing new. Iran thinks they're in charge.
Speaker 4: We think there are a bunch of low lifes. And
Speaker 4: that's that's it. That is it. That's the Iran update.
Speaker 4: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, what's going on?
Speaker 2: Everybody? Good to be with you.
Speaker 4: Oh and breaking in the last hour or so, Senator
Speaker 4: Bill Cassidy, who has no love for President Trump, is
Speaker 4: going to back Todd Blanche as Attorney General.
Speaker 2: And vote in his favor. This is going to happen.
Speaker 2: This is going to happen. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Where else we are so so far, you have Collins
Speaker 4: opposing Blanche and now Lisa Murkowski. I was going to
Speaker 4: say something very rude, and I decided, because I'm a professional,
Speaker 4: I won't do that. But if you see me walking
Speaker 4: down the street, ask me and I'll tell you. So
Speaker 4: Murkowski opposes Cassidy is in favor. The question becomes about
Speaker 4: Mitch McConnell. Allegedly Mitch McConnell's now home and recovering, and people.
Speaker 2: Said, oh, I talked to Mitch McConnell.
Speaker 4: He's doing great. This whole thing is so weird. The
Speaker 4: Mitch McConnell thing is weird. The Max Miller thing is weird.
Speaker 4: Because Max Miller is the guy accused of putting a
Speaker 4: gun at his ex wife's head and his ex father
Speaker 4: in law is the senator from Ohio, Bernie Moreno, it's
Speaker 4: a really, really weird story. But he did not drop
Speaker 4: out of this race in a time where Republicans could
Speaker 4: easily replace him. So now there's a whole thing they
Speaker 4: are going on with the House. He is not going
Speaker 4: quietly into that good night, and he's not presenting himself
Speaker 4: well either. But with McConnell, is McConnell going to vote
Speaker 4: on Todd Blanche? Is he someone considered because if you
Speaker 4: lost two in a fifty three forty seven Senate, now
Speaker 4: you're fifty to fifty, well you're fifty forty seven, but
Speaker 4: you get my point, while you're fifty forty nine in
Speaker 4: this case, No wait, no, I take that back. You'd
Speaker 4: be three down because McConnell, you're fifty to fifty. I
Speaker 4: did the math right, and now you need a tie break.
Speaker 4: You can't afford to lose anybody else. There's really no reason, none,
Speaker 4: for anybody to be opposed to Blanche. You cannot you
Speaker 4: cannot state that Merrick Garland was okay, but Todd Blanchees.
Speaker 4: He can't do it. By the way, Jeffrey in the
Speaker 4: chat room, you're right, it would be fifty forty nine
Speaker 4: because if McConnell's not there, he's a no vote, but
Speaker 4: he's not. He's a non vote, but he's not a
Speaker 4: no vote. There we go, it would be fifty forty nine.
Speaker 4: He still can't afford to lose anybody else. That was
Speaker 4: my point.
Speaker 2: Man. That took a lot. I need a drink. I
Speaker 2: do maybe two. This is Tony Katz today.
Speaker 4: I don't enjoy talking about Zoron Mumdani. The communist Islamists,
Speaker 4: I say Islamists. Some people are now into islamo Marxist.
Speaker 4: It's just too many, too many things. One thing, picket
Speaker 4: is Lamists are communist. They're working together. This Red Green
Speaker 4: alliance is very very real. And when they destroy Western civilization,
Speaker 4: they will fight each other and the Commedis are gonna lose.
Speaker 4: We all understand this, right. The Communists are.
Speaker 2: Gonna get their ass is kicked. They're gonna lose so bad.
Speaker 2: They are gonna lose.
Speaker 4: Like Purdue against Indiana in an oaken bucket game.
Speaker 2: Now, for those of.
Speaker 4: You who are not from here, let me say, for
Speaker 4: the record, this is a dig on the new athletic
Speaker 4: director Tommy McClelland, who made one of the great blunders
Speaker 4: I've ever heard, and I have argued publicly that firing
Speaker 4: him is on the table.
Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today. Good to be with you.
Speaker 2: I will get to that.
Speaker 4: Ed Morrissey joins me right now from hot air dot com.
Speaker 4: He appreciated my big ten humor. I bring up Mom Donnie,
Speaker 4: and I don't you like to talk about New York
Speaker 4: because it gets too much play. But what's important here
Speaker 4: is that how this is trying to spread across the
Speaker 4: country an election after election. But it was a really
Speaker 4: interesting story in Staten Island. Now. Stotton Island is one
Speaker 4: of the boroughs of New York where Mom Donnie is mayor,
Speaker 4: and it is has always been a conservative, if not
Speaker 4: Republican stronghold. These are very pro America people and they
Speaker 4: don't see themselves as the rest of New York and.
Speaker 2: If they could break away, they would.
Speaker 4: They had an event for a local police department. It
Speaker 4: was a turnout with the neighbors kind of event, and
Speaker 4: Mamdani showed up and after sixty seconds of speaking, gets
Speaker 4: booed off the stage, gets booed off the stage. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and it's embarrassing, it's humiliating for him. And then comes
Speaker 4: the story that Mam Donnie, it turns out, has a very.
Speaker 2: Very very thin bit of skin.
Speaker 4: And this was the story front page of the New
Speaker 4: York Post. Mam Donnie is thin skinned and hyper sensitive
Speaker 4: in private, in private, despite unflappable social media image.
Speaker 2: And my argument, ed, is that's where all these communists are.
Speaker 4: That's just all these Islamis are, because none of them
Speaker 4: can actually handle an actual discussion of what it is
Speaker 4: they believe. Is there a tide turning based on what
Speaker 4: you can see regarding Mom Donnie in New York and
Speaker 4: is that now flowing through to the rest of the nation.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about New York City. I'm honestly not
Speaker 1: sure about whether there's a tide turning in New York
Speaker 1: City or not. Think it's too early to tell, But
Speaker 1: I mean, we haven't had side elections or by elections
Speaker 1: or anything else like that. And frankly, New York has
Speaker 1: been turning kind of a radical for a while now.
Speaker 1: They just nominated you know, Daria Lisis Chevalier and a
Speaker 1: couple other DSA people, you know, outright DSA people for
Speaker 1: the US House, and they're going to win those districts,
Speaker 1: so they'll be sitting in Congress next January unless there's
Speaker 1: something really remarkable that goes on in those heavily Democratic
Speaker 1: districts that's baked into the cake. So I'm not necessarily
Speaker 1: sure about in New York City. I do think though,
Speaker 1: that we might have seen peak DSA around the country.
Speaker 1: I would point to what's happening in Michigan, what happened
Speaker 1: in Michigan this week, which was that abdulah Sayed was
Speaker 1: supposedly had all this momentum behind him. You had five
Speaker 1: different polsters that had him up by double digits in
Speaker 1: a Democrat primary within two and three weeks of the
Speaker 1: actual primary vote, and he barely won the nomination, didn't
Speaker 1: get to fifty percent, barely won against Tiley Stephens. Haley
Speaker 1: Stevens ends up winning Wayne County, which is Detroit, which
Speaker 1: is remarkable that she won that county and still didn't
Speaker 1: win the nomination. And that just goes to show you
Speaker 1: that this is really a phenomenon that's really around college towns, right.
Speaker 1: And I've been arguing this all along, which is that
Speaker 1: this is only going to work in really concentrate blue bubbles.
Speaker 1: Right when you get statewide in a state like Michigan,
Speaker 1: or if you want to go over to nearby Wisconsin
Speaker 1: where Francesca hang is running for the Democrat nomination for governor,
Speaker 1: that's next week. Once you go, once you go statewide,
Speaker 1: that dissipates. And I think that because all of this
Speaker 1: stuff is getting exposed about the DSA's actual agenda, I mean,
Speaker 1: they're explicit agenda. You can look at their explicit agenda
Speaker 1: and see that what they're talking about is eliminating the Senate,
Speaker 1: eliminating the presidency as we know it now, basically throwing
Speaker 1: out the Constitution, going to a House of Representatives that
Speaker 1: acts more like a ball up bureau, and imposing a
Speaker 1: no private property type of system on America, probably by force,
Speaker 1: because that's the way it it would have to proceed.
Speaker 1: I think people understand now that these people are actual nuts,
Speaker 1: they're radicals. And right now you're seeing the media talk
Speaker 1: about this as a you know, Republicans are doing a
Speaker 1: red scare. This isn't a red scare. This is code red,
Speaker 1: by the way, and this is real.
Speaker 4: Let a quick thing to go over here, because this
Speaker 4: just popped up on my feed as a graphic.
Speaker 2: It looks a little pornographic.
Speaker 4: It's not meant to and I'm not trying to be
Speaker 4: pornographic with this graphic. There is a red line at
Speaker 4: the top and a blue line at the bottom, and
Speaker 4: the red line is el Sayed and the blue line
Speaker 4: is Haley Stevens. This was the polling in Michigan, and
Speaker 4: then it got closed, and then it spread a little
Speaker 4: bit more, and then on election day it's El Sayed
Speaker 4: the Islamist or the Islamist adjacent by one percent.
Speaker 2: So to your point, this did not work out.
Speaker 4: The way any of the pollsters said it would, and
Speaker 4: that we should really discuss what it is that we're
Speaker 4: getting in terms of the polling. And we have discussed
Speaker 4: here what a huge problem this creates for else. I
Speaker 4: had for the Democrats to win against Mike Rogers, because
Speaker 4: Democrats the forty seven percent plus who voted for Haley Stevens,
Speaker 4: who is no peach by the way, the.
Speaker 2: Representative.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know how you vote for somebody
Speaker 4: who gives you such incredible gems like this one. A
Speaker 4: little bit of enthusiasm, a little bit of energy and
Speaker 4: a little bit of sicket to them.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. I don't know how you
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 4: I also don't know how you vote for a guy
Speaker 4: supported by Hassan Piker. I edited this pretty well. Their
Speaker 4: producer Landa but finger on the dumb button. The RNC
Speaker 4: put this out about him talking about black voters.
Speaker 2: Would black people care about?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Black people care about this? Is black people care about that?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Shut the fuck up. That's not how politics works. Oh well, Hassan,
Speaker 2: how dare you like it or not? Black people care
Speaker 2: about this issue? It's like it's such a stupid stance.
Speaker 5: Any other black folk want to engage in radical activist
Speaker 5: language in.
Speaker 2: This fuking chat suck? Yes, dude, it's because I'm racist.
Speaker 2: That's why. It's because I'm racist. Dude.
Speaker 5: Go back to a better time when lynchings were happening.
Speaker 5: This is what I like as a black man. Are
Speaker 5: you always doing too much with black people?
Speaker 2: Leave them alone. I want to go back to lynching, like,
Speaker 2: I get it. Will relax, man, shut them up. Okay, damn,
Speaker 2: you got me. Okay, you got me. Because I'm off
Speaker 2: racist person.
Speaker 1: Now you know why he lost Detroit.
Speaker 2: There is a real story here.
Speaker 4: Talking to edmarscyaf hotair dot com, as we talk about
Speaker 4: whether or not this works in certain blue bubbles, we
Speaker 4: already have l SI Ed having a problem with the
Speaker 4: Stephens voters, because the Stephens voter can either hold their
Speaker 4: nose and vote for him, hold their nose and vote
Speaker 4: for Mike Rogers, or hold their nose at home and
Speaker 4: not go out and vote. But when you talk about
Speaker 4: people outside of these blue bubbles, you're talking about black voters,
Speaker 4: and black voters, I agree, are not a monolithic block,
Speaker 4: but they absolutely understand that their wants, desires, thoughts, their
Speaker 4: importance has been pushed aside because the Democratic Party now
Speaker 4: the Socialist Party has said communists and Muslims are the
Speaker 4: only things that matter in the voting base. We're going
Speaker 4: to even hide things on our campaign websites so it
Speaker 4: doesn't upset them like our thoughts on LGBTQ, et cetera.
Speaker 4: There is a large scale problem, and I'm asking you
Speaker 4: to kind of break it down a little bit more
Speaker 4: about how this problem is going to affect coming into November.
Speaker 1: So let me explain this to you in a structural way.
Speaker 1: The Democrat Party has long butt into the idea of
Speaker 1: intersectionality as a way of redistributing the political goods between
Speaker 1: the different grievance groups, if you will, in a woke structure, right,
Speaker 1: because Democrats are all about identity, right, So there's the
Speaker 1: black identity, there's female identity, there's you know, Jewish identity,
Speaker 1: there's you know, et cetera. And there's an intersectionality structure
Speaker 1: that goes with this. And this is important in Texas.
Speaker 2: Can I interrupt you really quick?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Democrats have given up on the idea of
Speaker 4: Jewish identity. They want no Jewish identity whatsoever.
Speaker 1: Well, no, I mean, but what I was going to
Speaker 1: say is they've ranked Jewish identity at the very bottom
Speaker 1: of this intersectionality structure, right, and for a very long time,
Speaker 1: being black was at the top of this intersectionality structure.
Speaker 1: The whole thing was called was based on critical race theory,
Speaker 1: which was, you know that America is very racist, and
Speaker 1: so therefore you you know, and your ethnicity is completely
Speaker 1: determinist in terms of what your outcomes aren't access to
Speaker 1: social goods, and so therefore it must be redistributed based
Speaker 1: on where you rank each group. So you had Blacks
Speaker 1: above Hispanics, for instance, which is one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why Hispanics started to leave the Democrat Party. Now you've
Speaker 1: got Democrats saying no, Socialists and Muslims are now at
Speaker 1: the top of this intersectionality structure and Blacks getting pushed
Speaker 1: down the structure. And in Texas, that's part of what happened.
Speaker 1: What's happening because Jasmine Crockett was both black and female,
Speaker 1: which in intersectionality terms should have made her top ranked
Speaker 1: in that primary, and James tallerco as a white male,
Speaker 1: shouldn't have even run against her. And this is the
Speaker 1: reason why Jane the Jasmine Crockett has been saying ever
Speaker 1: since that the Democrats primary was racist because it violated
Speaker 1: this intersectionality structure that black voters thought was in place
Speaker 1: to advance their interests. And what you're saying is part
Speaker 1: of this, which is that the intersectionality structure has been
Speaker 1: completely rewritten now by the DSA and people like Hassan
Speaker 1: Piker and Islamists to say no, right now, Palestine and
Speaker 1: communism and socialism are now the top part of the
Speaker 1: highest priority in this intersectionality structure, and Blacks just need
Speaker 1: to shut up and get in line, and that is
Speaker 1: not that didn't go over will in the Michigan primary.
Speaker 1: It's not going to go over well in Texas either.
Speaker 4: Talking to Edmarssey of hotair dot com, listen, I don't
Speaker 4: know your schedule.
Speaker 2: Can you hang out for a few more minutes. Let
Speaker 2: me take a.
Speaker 4: Break, because we should come back to where this actually
Speaker 4: goes to, which is how do Republicans take advantage of this?
Speaker 2: Not how do they take advantage of black voters?
Speaker 4: I think a tremendous number of black voters should be Republicans. Anyway,
Speaker 4: they could make great changes in great strides. Republicans aren't bright,
Speaker 4: and they don't know how to act and interact. They
Speaker 4: don't know how to speak, and you can't think of
Speaker 4: a group as a monolithic block, but you can recognize
Speaker 4: what you're discussing. How do they go about getting these
Speaker 4: voters in this mid term? Stay right there, Ed Morrissey,
Speaker 4: hotair dot Com. Stay right here, guys. This is Tony
Speaker 4: Katz today. Continue the conversation with Ed Morrissey regarding how
Speaker 4: Republicans can actually get black vote because part of the
Speaker 4: problem with Republicans is that they are not bright and
Speaker 4: they are afraid and they don't know how to talk,
Speaker 4: and those are some of their finest qualities.
Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good to be with you.
Speaker 4: Edmarcihotair dot com joins me, I appreciate you sticking around
Speaker 4: for another few minutes if we are to agree, as
Speaker 4: I've discussed it and now you're discussing it, that the
Speaker 4: left has abandoned the black voter as a necessary talking point,
Speaker 4: that what matters is hatred of Israel, pretending Palstine's a
Speaker 4: real place, These kinds of attacks the communist desire because
Speaker 4: capitalism is evil. Black voters clearly said in the Michigan
Speaker 4: election for the Democratic primary, No, So what is the
Speaker 4: advice to Republicans? Starting with Mike Rogers in Michigan, Republicans
Speaker 4: written large, how do they go about talking to voters
Speaker 4: Democrat voters who are black and saying, Hey, I may
Speaker 4: not be perfect, but my god, I think that you
Speaker 4: matter as an American.
Speaker 1: Well, the first thing would be to actually talk to them.
Speaker 1: I wrote about this ten years ago in my book
Speaker 1: Going Round. They don't show up, read they don't show up.
Speaker 1: They don't go to the neighborhoods. You know, I talked
Speaker 1: about this in the book extensively. I sat down with
Speaker 1: black conservatives in these different swing counties talking about what
Speaker 1: their experience was dealing with Republicans, and they said the
Speaker 1: same thing over and over again. Republicans will open up
Speaker 1: an office six weeks before an election and pack it
Speaker 1: up about four weeks afterwards. They don't stay in the communities.
Speaker 1: They don't keep going back and talking to people. They
Speaker 1: don't ask them what their issues are. They'd given the
Speaker 1: thirty thousand foot talking points. And the people that I
Speaker 1: talked to who were successful in making inroads in these
Speaker 1: communities were the people who actually sat down and listen
Speaker 1: first about what the actual issues were, what their concerns were,
Speaker 1: and trying to address them while not leaving their own
Speaker 1: values behind. And you have to start with respect. It
Speaker 1: starts with respect. So if all you're doing is running
Speaker 1: advertising and not sitting down with people, you're not showing
Speaker 1: them enough respect for them to listen to you. And
Speaker 1: so your question is a great question. I've been talking
Speaker 1: about this for ten years, and Republicans have made some
Speaker 1: changes to try to do that. There's been some better
Speaker 1: GOTV efforts, for instance, and they have people who actually
Speaker 1: stick around in the communities a little longer, but for
Speaker 1: the most part, they still haven't learned to go and
Speaker 1: talk to these voters and show them respect. If they
Speaker 1: just showed up, you might be able to peel another
Speaker 1: five percent six percent just from the fact that you
Speaker 1: showed up and talked to them and made them feel
Speaker 1: like they mattered.
Speaker 4: And I will say this, I've discussed this on my
Speaker 4: morning show for years.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I've brought it here.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: If somebody invites me to speak at a black church,
Speaker 4: I'm going. I am there. You want me and Ed
Speaker 4: to come, I will pay for Ed's ticket. We will
Speaker 4: come and talk about these things and where we think
Speaker 4: conservatism is and why we think it matters, and and
Speaker 4: and and try and win hearts and minds to conversation.
Speaker 2: Invite. I can't just show up, that's weird. Invite.
Speaker 4: I will bring Ed, and I will wear a better
Speaker 4: shirt than he's wearing right now.
Speaker 2: And and you across so all, I so all? I
Speaker 2: promise No, oh.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, my shirt's fine. But this is it
Speaker 4: sounds so dumb, it sounds so basic. You got to
Speaker 4: actually talk to people. That is a huge part of it.
Speaker 4: Ed Morrissey stay right there hot air dot com and
Speaker 4: the book going read. You can find that at Amazon
Speaker 4: dot com wherever fine books are sold, and appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Stare right there. More is coming up. This is Tony
Speaker 4: Katz today