1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Okay, we've got another Senator weighing in on redistricting. 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 2: He's a pretty big one. 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 3: He is a no senator. 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 4: Mike Krider strongly opposes the new map, calling it alarming. 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: Okay, so Mike Krider, he what is he? 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Shelby County Eastern, part of the stag Well Greenfield. Yeah, 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: so he is a big voice. He's been there a while, 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: he's a respected member of the Senate. High up on 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: the food chain. Doesn't mean that that's an inclination of 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: where the rest of the Senate is going to go 11 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: on redistricting, which starts today, by the way, the Senate 12 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: is convening. I believe Elections Committee has the bill. And 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: look what he said. And I'm not a Mike Criter fan. 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: He's part of the you know, merry band of misfits 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: that has done a lot of the things we talk 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: about and don't like on this show. But in this 17 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: Capitol Chronicle article where he has come out against redistricting, 18 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: I just wanted to read his quote that I thought 19 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,319 Speaker 1: was was bo because it's what we've talked about. We've 20 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: talked about with redistricting, and there's many reasons to oppose it, 21 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: but one of the main reasons for me is you 22 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: are no longer representing people. You're representing the party. The 23 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: purpose of the representative as set up by our founders, 24 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: and we talked about this many times before, is to 25 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: say I represent this small block, small in the sense 26 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: of the entire country, block of people who don't have 27 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: a voice in Washington other than through me. 28 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: And they share these points. 29 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: Of commonality, right, things like geography, commerce, time zones, all 30 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: of these things that we've laid out, and it's my 31 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: job to go to Washington and be their voice. Under 32 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: these new maps, that all goes away because you've got 33 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: numerous districts to start in Indianapolis and will stretch all 34 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: the way to the tip of the state east west, 35 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: south right, you're not representing commonality points of interest. 36 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: You're gonna have to pick. 37 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: You're going to literally have bills in front of you 38 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: in which your constituents will be at odds with each other, 39 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: so you won't be representing half of your people. 40 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 4: M m. 41 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 3: Well, he said that he thought it was alarming. 42 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, quote, I think the maps are pretty alarming. Actually, 43 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: So I was a no before and I'm for sure 44 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: a no now now. This is where it gets interesting. 45 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 2: Quote. 46 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that if those maps pass, 47 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: there's a good possibility that three or four millionaires from 48 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: Indianapolis will represent a third of the state. So I 49 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: don't know that serves us well wow, which is exactly 50 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: what we've been saying. 51 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: Well, he's not wrong, because it's going to cost a 52 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: lot of money. 53 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: Sure, and we have been saying that nobody has an 54 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: answer for this. They won't answer it other than well, 55 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: anything's better than Andre Carson. That's literally the answer you 56 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: get when you point this out to people. You tell 57 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: me how putting two or three more Jefferson Shreeves in Washington, 58 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: d C. Is going to make your life any better. 59 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 1: This is a guy who ran for mayor of Indianapolis, 60 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: lied to everyone said, Oh, this is the only job 61 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: I want, this is the place I call home, this 62 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: is the thing I want to do. 63 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: Totally wimped out. 64 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: Was a disc race on that debate stage where he 65 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: spent more time pressing hawks at on the animals shelter 66 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: than where he was during the riots, even when Phil Sanchez, 67 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: the moderator from which TV teed it up for him, like, dude, 68 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: there's the ball, just knock it out of the park. 69 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: He wouldn't do it, spent fifteen sixteen million dollars, and 70 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: then as soon as he loses the mayor's race, starts 71 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: running from the United States Congress and buys that seat 72 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: based on his ability to flood the Indianapolis airwaves because 73 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: part of his district was Indianapolis and win the seat. 74 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: You tell me how howeving two or three or more 75 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: of those people in Washington is gonna make anybody's life 76 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: any better and is more importantly, gonna make anybody's representation 77 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: any better. 78 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: Nobody can answer that question. 79 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, So, splitting Indianapolis into four districts now, three of 80 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 4: which stretch all the way to other states, that is 81 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 4: going to cost a lot of money. There's going to 82 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 4: be a lot of television buys and media buys in 83 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 4: this market. Now, so let's talk about the Senate Elections Committee. 84 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 4: Right on the committee, you have three Republicans. Who's two 85 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 4: Republicans who oppose it, three Republicans who are undecided, and 86 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 4: two Democrats who oppose it. 87 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: Okay, So let's the way the math works on this. 88 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: You got to get a majority in the. 89 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: Committee to get it out, and then it would go 90 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: to the full Senate to vote. So there are times, 91 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: and I think you may see this here where there 92 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: will be people who will vote. 93 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: This is very bizarre to me, but this is the 94 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: way they do it. They will vote. 95 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: Something out of committee and then vote for it in 96 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: front of the full floor to say, I think this 97 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: warrants a full debate in front of the Indiana Senate. 98 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: I am opposed to this, but I respect my fellow 99 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: senator's right to have a say on this. So I 100 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: will be announcing that I'm going to move this forward, 101 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: but oppose it. So just because something makes it out 102 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 1: of the committee, which that hearing again is today, I'm going, 103 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: by the way. 104 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: Yes, that's why I'm wearing. I'm wearing clothes that fit. 105 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: You look really nice, thank you. Yes, you haven't seen 106 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: me from the waist down. 107 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 3: Do you have your speech ready? Are you prepared? 108 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: I do, and so later if it pleases the court, 109 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: I'll actually read what I'm going to say to these 110 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: esteemed members of the Indiana Senate when I get up 111 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: there and I'm ignored in the order in which I'm. 112 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: Receiving, Yes, I would like to hear it. 113 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: Okay, well, we'll do that we'll do that later. Okay, 114 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: but that's what's going on today. I think, what is it, 115 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: twelve thirty one thirty? I can't remember what time the 116 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: hearing is, but as soon as I get done here, 117 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: I'll it's goodoodle on over and hey, if you're a 118 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: person who hates my guts and says awful horrible things 119 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: about me on the internet, I'll be over at the 120 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: state House today, as long as you do it in 121 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: a peaceful, law abiding manner. There's a lot of billy 122 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: badasses on the internet, Casey, who when they have an 123 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,119 Speaker 1: opportunity to do it to my face, I won't say anything. 124 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: So if or you're a lawmaker who said heinous horrible 125 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: things about me, now's your opportunity. 126 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: Ro Keetah, come on and say it to my face. 127 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: I'll be right at your house, coming up here in 128 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: a couple hours. 129 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 4: All right, you're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is 130 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 4: ninety three WYBC. 131 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: Okay, Now we can totally just put it out there 132 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: that sports is completely rigged. 133 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: And what I mean now. 134 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: Look, people are outraged over this big, this college football 135 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: playoff selection thing, and they've totally got a case and 136 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm not just saying this as a Notre Dame homer, 137 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: which I freely admit, right, but the idea that I 138 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: mean just it was complete chaos with the college football 139 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: selection playoff selection yesterday soon Most people are hearing our 140 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: voice know this, but for those you don't. Last year 141 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: meeting last year, they went from a four team many 142 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: playoff to decide the national champion to this college football playoff. 143 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: Where there are twelve teams involved. 144 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: The four top teams get a bye, and then the 145 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: remaining eight play and then they played play down in 146 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: a mini you know, like the basketball tournament style thing 147 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: did crown and national champion last year was Ohio State 148 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: and Notre Dame in the national championship. And each week 149 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: for the last five weeks, they've been telling you who 150 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: is in based on their criteria that they've set right, 151 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: and they would alter it based on who wins or 152 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: who loses, And every single week Notre Dame has been 153 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: in the top ten. Now keep in mind, for some 154 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: unknown reason, they've admitted this is a television product and 155 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: that it's all about money. They admitted that last year, 156 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: but yet they have these two. The eligibility for these 157 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: two goober schools in this case, Tulane and James Madison. Look, 158 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry if you went to either one of those schools. 159 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure they're fine academic institutions. 160 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: Nobody cares. 161 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: Nine people will be watching because they're in it and 162 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna get smoked by these legitimate teams. But for 163 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: some reason they felt compelled that we got to have 164 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: five conference champions in the ACC. Is so deplorable this year, 165 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: which will come back to that in a second. That 166 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: Duke who was seven and five won the ACC and 167 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: they're like, eh, we're not letting them in. So you've 168 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: got James Madison, Tulane in and for the entire time 169 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: because they had to save these two spots for two 170 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: undeserving teams because I knewy were going to get in. 171 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: So it's basically the top ten teams were the deserving 172 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: people to get in. Notre Dame was ahead of Alabama 173 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: and Miami, and then the very last week, for some 174 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: unknown reason, they were like, uh, oh, well, Alabama beat Auburn, 175 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: who has a losing record in the Iron Bowls, so 176 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna flip them ahead of Notre Dame. 177 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: Okay, now, Notre Dame's in. 178 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: At ten still bizarre that you beat a team with 179 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: a losing record and you moved ahead. 180 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: Whatever. 181 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: Then Miami, who was the outside team looking in, also 182 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: didn't play this week like Notre Dame. So Miami did 183 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: nothing to better their lot in life. Notre Dame did 184 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: nothing to better their lot in life. And for some reason, 185 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: despite Alabama losing by nine gajillion points in the SEC 186 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: Championship for their third loss. 187 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: And Notre Dame not playing and Miami not playing. 188 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: Somehow Miami, magically, because the ACC had no representation in 189 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: there whatsoever, and the ACC has a voice in this, 190 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: jumped into the tournament and Alabama, despite getting crushed for 191 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: their third loss, stayed exactly where they were and Notre 192 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: Dame is out of the whole thing. 193 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, so what the game against Miami didn't matter at 194 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 4: all for five weeks until suddenly it mattered extremely Oh. 195 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 2: So this is so Yeah. 196 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: So basically what went down here is because the ACC 197 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: has a voice in this, the Atlantic Coast Conference, they said, well, 198 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: we're not going to be iced out, We're not going 199 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: to have a team in this, and the other people 200 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: because all these conferences are in cahoots together and Notre 201 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: Dame is an independent team, they're not in a conference. 202 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: They said, yeah, that's right, We're not gonna let the 203 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: ACC not have any representation. So, as you said, Casey, 204 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: for five weeks, they're like, Notre Dame is better than Miami. 205 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: They went into. 206 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: Great detail about why Notre Dame was better than Miami. 207 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 4: Neither didn't matter for five weeks until all of a 208 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 4: sudden it did on selection. 209 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're like, oh, okay, just go and let. 210 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 4: On, Well, we got to compare that head to head 211 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 4: matchup back in August. 212 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: And look, there are people who had nothing to do 213 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: with Notre Dame, high profile people who are just outraged 214 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: over this. They said, this thing is a complete I mean, 215 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna have these two goober schools who would get 216 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: beat by a minimum of two touchdowns by any team 217 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: that is deservingly in are gonna play. Nobody's gonna watch 218 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: those games because everybody knows what's gonna happen. And you 219 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: kicked a team out who had been in the entire time, 220 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: and all they did was beat teams by double digits 221 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: throughout that whole process and didn't play like people are 222 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: look at this going it's a joke. It's all rigged. 223 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: I'm not watching. I bet the I bet the numbers. Now, look, 224 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: when you get down to whatever the national championship game is, well, 225 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: you know, if it's IU, it's Ohio State, you know whoever. Right, 226 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: they may do a decent number on that, but the 227 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: rest of these numbers they're going to be abysmal because 228 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: everybody's saying it's rigged. And this is why people do 229 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: the like with the you know, the other sports. With 230 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: the Raiders game the other day where there's this horrible 231 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: caul at the end of the game that allows the 232 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: Raiders to go down to kick a meaningless field goal. 233 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: The spread seven and a half. Oh I got them 234 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: to seven. 235 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: This is what feeds the narrative of sports is rigged 236 00:10:58,800 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: and people aren't gonna watch it. 237 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 4: So Notre Dame built their entire program being independent, and 238 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 4: many people are saying that this is ESPN trying to 239 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 4: force them to join a conference. 240 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not gonna happen. Gang, it's not going to happen. 241 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: You know what Notre Dame is gonna do. 242 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: They're gonna go sleep on that pile of cash they 243 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: get from their national television deal and go, yeah, we're fine. 244 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 4: You're talking about the fifty million dollars per year that 245 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 4: Notre Dame gets with that NBC deal, and not all. 246 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: Their games are on NBC, by the way, so there's 247 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: a lot of other money flowing in that is that's 248 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: just the whatever half the games are on NBC or 249 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: something like that. 250 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 4: Plus they've got money from their acc partnership payments. So 251 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 4: you're talking about sixty seven million dollars annually. Notre Dame 252 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 4: one of the biggest TV draws in college football. They 253 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 4: were the sixth most watched team, averaging four point two 254 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 4: million viewers per game. NBC averages five point one million 255 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 4: viewers for Notre Dame home games, and the Notre Dame 256 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 4: Ohio State game was NBC's biggest college audience in thirty years. 257 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: Okay, so. 258 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: Notre Dame then said, because what they wanted them to 259 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: do is BYU, who is the Notre Dame is the 260 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: last team out, then BYU, who's the other the second 261 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: team out. They wanted them to play in that Pop 262 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: Tart Bowl, which has kind of become their big non 263 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: championship game, and Notre Dame said, ah, yeah, done, We're 264 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: going home. 265 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: Nice try ESPN. 266 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 4: So Marcus Freeman, he was talking about the disadvantages of 267 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 4: Notre Dame being an independent school, and he said, Hey, 268 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 4: that's what we're built on, and the only way we 269 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 4: would join a conference is because of this. 270 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 5: Well, I think if you talk about being at a 271 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 5: disadvantage to make the postseason, yeah, right, because you're not 272 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 5: in the playoffs. Or or if it comes a time 273 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 5: where teams won't schedule you, right because the Big Ten 274 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 5: or the SEC or saying we're going to play nine 275 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 5: games and we'll play a crossover game, and who cares 276 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 5: about Notre Dame, Well, then I think there's going to 277 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 5: be a point where we may be forced to join 278 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 5: a conference. But until that point happens, which it doesn't 279 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 5: look likely, we're gonna stay independent as long as we can't. 280 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: Look, if you're a sponsor of this NCAA playoff, you 281 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: are outraged right now because they gave you Tu Lane 282 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: and James Madison and they left Notre Dame sitting on 283 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: the sidelines. Look, it's all money, right, money talks in 284 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: this college sports. It's all about money now. It's just 285 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: a glorified mini pro product. And if you're a person 286 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: who pays millions of dollars every year to sponsor this thing. 287 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 1: And you're gonna see those TV ratings. You're going, what 288 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: do we do? What are you doing here? Notre Dame. 289 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: Part of what makes Notre Dame special is they are 290 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: sort of the last in a society where everything goes away, 291 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: in a society where everything changes. And I'm not just 292 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: talking about sports. I'm talking about like, look look here 293 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: in our state where great beautiful farmland is being gobbled 294 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: up for the newest, biggest, brightest development. Right the data centers, 295 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: you know, the warehouses, right, everything goes away, nothing special anymore, 296 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: everything has a price. 297 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 2: Notre Dame is the one. 298 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: Thing left in athletics, and that independence because of the 299 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: teams they're able to play that go back generations to Navy, USC, Stanford, Pitt, 300 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: all of these teams that they have played literally I 301 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: mean throughout lives of not just yourself, but your your father, 302 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: your grandfather. 303 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: That's special. That still matters. 304 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: And kudos to Notre Dame because if they joined a conference, 305 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people would walk away from Notre Dame 306 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: because they just be in. 307 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: They'd just be another team. 308 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: Right now, they're the New York Yankees, the Dallas Cowboys, 309 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics. They are that of college football. So 310 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: good on those guys for saying we're doing what we're 311 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: doing and we're not changing. 312 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 5: Well. 313 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 4: One thing for sure is it dominated the news cycle yesterday. 314 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 4: But many people are wondering, why aren't we talking about this. 315 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: Here's the staff field and kicks the ball. It is 316 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: wid it is what. 317 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 3: The load. 318 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: I will take over the football and they have a 319 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: leader at thirteen. You cost me a lot of money 320 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: this weekend. I hope you were proud of yourself. We 321 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: blew it on that game. 322 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: I'm going to be able to make the mortgage payment. 323 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 4: That was one of those bets where it was like 324 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 4: I was okay losing because I you won, Well. 325 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: Speak for yourself. You didn't have any money writing. 326 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 3: On the time I was spending your money, Wasn't I okay? 327 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: So when we come back, you obviously a huge weekend 328 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: for them. You Now, people don't know about this about Casey. 329 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: She has mentored many people who have gone on to 330 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: very fabulous things in the media and professional world. 331 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: She's tried very hard with me, but that is not 332 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: her fault. 333 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: She's done everything she possibly could One of those people 334 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: is Jeremy Gray. He is the associate athletic director at IU, 335 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: and he's going to join us next to talk about 336 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: what an amazing weekend. 337 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 3: Right the big win. You're listening to Kendall and Casey. 338 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 4: It is ninety three wy In case you may. 339 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: Have heard, there was a football game over the weekend. Well, 340 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: there were a. 341 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 4: Couple of football games over the weekend, but I imagine 342 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 4: you're talking about one in particular. 343 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: Yes, Indiana course winning the Big Ten championship in the 344 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: first time they've defeated Ohio State since nineteen eighty eight. 345 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: They're the number one team in the entire country. 346 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 3: I know a lot of people are very excited about this. 347 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 3: And you know what, we got a guy. Oh, let's 348 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 3: go straight to the top. 349 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 4: At IU, we have the associate athletic director on the line. 350 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 3: His name is Jeremy Gray. Good morning, Jeremy, good. 351 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 6: Morning, Good morning. I mean, just as you guys predicted 352 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 6: in August that Indiana would go thirteen to zero and 353 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 6: you know, beat Oregon on the road, Ohio State and 354 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 6: probably have the Heisman Trophy winner. 355 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: And I think it's all due to. 356 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 6: Middle management. 357 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: Taking full credit, are you, Yes? 358 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: Yes, what does an associate athletic Did my. 359 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 6: Mother in law put you up to this? No, So 360 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 6: each associate athletic director has areas of responsibility in the department. 361 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 6: So I have marketing, media relations, the Mark Cuban Center, 362 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:19,479 Speaker 6: which is our fancy way of saying, photo, videographic design, broadcasting, digital, 363 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 6: social media. So those are my areas of responsibility. 364 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 4: Jeremy, I wanted to ask you, how does you plan 365 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 4: to leverage this championship to boost recruiting across all sports? 366 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 6: Now, you know, it's been interesting at our home football games. 367 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 6: We've got a legendary swimming and diving program, which is 368 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 6: a program that I actually oversee, and for years they 369 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 6: never brought swimmers to our football games because they did 370 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 6: not want athletes that found that appealing. Now, on the 371 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 6: sidelines before games, it's absolutely packed with prospective student athletes 372 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 6: for all of these sports because of the atmosphere. How 373 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 6: it's changed things and there is something about football that 374 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 6: is kind of a leader of perception and we're now, 375 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 6: I think, kind of a cool school. We've had kind 376 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 6: of an image makeover similar to what Oregon experienced about 377 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 6: twenty years ago, where a lot of athletes and a 378 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 6: lot of different sports find I You appealing, and frankly, 379 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 6: the social media engagement that they have when they make 380 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 6: their official visits here taking pictures of themselves in the crowd. 381 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 6: It's been golden. 382 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 1: Jeremy Grady, the associate athletic director at I You, is 383 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: our guest. Okay, So can you talk about because Signetti 384 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: gets this big new contract right and everybody's like he's 385 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: totally worth it, can you talk about from a financial 386 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: perspective what it means when IU wins the Big Ten 387 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: is getting a buy in the college football playoffs, going 388 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: to play in Round two. Economically, what does that do 389 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: to the athletic program. 390 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 6: So we've actually done an economic case study on this, 391 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 6: and every time that your team is participating in College 392 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 6: Game Day on ESPN, for instance, that's three million dollars 393 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 6: worth of unpaid advertising. 394 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: Since Kurty Conetty has. 395 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 6: Taken over as head coach, we've been on Big nowon 396 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 6: Kickoff three times and ESPN College Game Day three times. 397 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 6: So I don't know, I'm gonna use my old public 398 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 6: school math here. That's eighteen million dollars of unpaid advertising 399 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 6: alone just from doing that the year prior to his arrival, 400 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 6: and this is no shot at the Big ten network. 401 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 6: I actually used to work for them. We were on 402 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 6: the Big ten network nine times in two thousand and 403 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 6: twenty three. This year we were on the Big ten 404 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 6: network twice, which is a conference mandate. All of our 405 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 6: games have been on Fox, CBS or NBC, So just 406 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 6: an unpaid advertising on the media, it's paid for itself 407 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 6: you multi times over. We've set every concessions record. We 408 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 6: had five straight sellouts to close out the year. Donations 409 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 6: are up. I believe applications to IU are up over 410 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 6: fifteen percent now as well. Wow, it really has changed 411 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 6: the game here in so many ways. 412 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 2: How do you think now? 413 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 4: A lot of people are saying this is in part 414 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 4: because of the new NIL open portal that happened recently. 415 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 4: How do you think that that's going to influence your 416 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 4: NIL strategy going forward? 417 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 6: Well, One, it makes perspective business owners or business owners 418 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 6: that would be perspective people to pay an IL to 419 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 6: student athletes more likely to do so because we have 420 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,239 Speaker 6: you know, athletes using worth using as sponsors for their 421 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 6: businesses or services. So I think it's going up that way. 422 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 6: In the transfer portal. This is really Kurt Signetti's secret sauce. 423 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 6: He is the best talent evaluator, in my opinion, in 424 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 6: all of college football. He can look at somebody who's 425 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 6: playing for a small college, a mid major, maybe a 426 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 6: backup for a high major program, see potential in them, 427 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 6: and he is able to find He's like the guy 428 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 6: who shops at, you know, the vintage store and finds, 429 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 6: you know, like like the diamond in the rough. So 430 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 6: he's able to do that, and he's done a great job. 431 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 6: And now the type of athlete that is looking at 432 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 6: Indiana as a landing spot has changed in two years too. 433 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 6: There are high major starters who'd like to come to Indiana. 434 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: Jeremy Grady, the associate athletic director at I. You is 435 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: our guest, So can you talk about Obviously I'm a 436 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: Hoosier lifer. Growing up, it was all IU basketball, right, Oh, 437 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: we have a football team. That's interesting, Right? Everything was 438 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: IU basketball. Can you talk about sort of the vibe 439 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 1: on campus, like, because obviously the IU basketball team has 440 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: had its fair share of struggles and not sort of 441 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: met the expectations that many people have. 442 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 2: Is are you becoming a football school? 443 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 6: Well, you know, it's interesting. You said so we had 444 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 6: the bi centennial in twenty twenty, and obviously that got 445 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 6: knocked all over the place because of the pandemic. But 446 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 6: through all these big plans and they talked about what 447 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 6: was going to happen the homecoming week of the Bisonennial, 448 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 6: and they had you know, guest speakers, concerts, all that 449 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 6: kind of stuff. They didn't even mention the game. They 450 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 6: didn't mention the homecoming game for homecoming week. It was 451 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 6: that much of an afterthought. On orientation visits, sometimes they 452 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 6: would make fun of the football program. The city was 453 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 6: largely not that helpful as you know, as it relates 454 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 6: to to to hotel prices and things like that. It 455 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 6: was it was just not a football community at all. 456 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 6: Now you come to IU and it's completely transformed that way, 457 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 6: where all the city storefronts have our mascot painted on 458 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 6: it or beat Beat such and such. They've changed the marquees, 459 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 6: uh you know, of local businesses to you know, beat 460 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 6: Ohio State. The city is now starting to change the 461 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 6: way they operate. There are no more youth soccer games 462 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 6: on Indiana home football weekends, you know, so they have 463 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 6: really reoriented it. Football is a centerpiece of the school's 464 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 6: advertising strategy. It's it's it's a major part of orientation, 465 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 6: and really it is a focus on campus. It has 466 00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 6: become a football school. 467 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 4: Do you think that this moment ranks among milestones during 468 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 4: your tenure? 469 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 6: Well, I mean we've had some, We've had some great 470 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 6: moments since I started working here, and you and I 471 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 6: have known each other for a long long time. I mean, 472 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 6: this would have to be number one. And I'm gonna 473 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 6: be honest. Maybe I was part of the problem. I 474 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 6: didn't think, especially when they went to the conference championship 475 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 6: game model and we expanded the league and added all 476 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 6: of these other great football programs, that Indiana's chances of 477 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 6: ever winning a Big ten championship in football had passed. 478 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 6: And for this guy to do this in year number 479 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 6: two is just insane. I mean, I don't really have 480 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 6: a great explanation for it, and I work here. 481 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 4: You've got one more big game though coming up. Thoughts 482 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 4: on the championship game, Yeah. 483 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 6: I mean going to the Rose Bowl. That's going to 484 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 6: be My wife is very excited that we get to 485 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 6: go there. You know, after Christmas, I think IU alums 486 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 6: are going to flood that area. There's a huge intentionent 487 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 6: of IU, people in southern California. I think it's going 488 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 6: to be magical. It's just surreal to say that Indiana 489 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 6: would be a favorite against either Alabama or Oklahoma in 490 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 6: a bowl game. But it's twenty twenty five, baby, so 491 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 6: we're really excited. And I do think that Indiana is 492 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 6: one of those teams that's got a chance to go 493 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 6: all the way. 494 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: And Jeremy, we'll get you in here with this. 495 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: We can all agree that should have been Oklahoma and 496 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: Notre Dame because then we could have had Notre Dame 497 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: and IU in the Rose Bull. 498 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 6: You know what, And Casey knows my background that way, 499 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 6: it would have been great for Indiana to play Notre 500 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 6: Dame again. I think it would have been special for 501 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 6: the state, people in this people in this area, and frankly, 502 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 6: I think it's the one hump Indiana has not gotten over, 503 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 6: you know, historically, and so a chance to play Notre 504 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 6: Dame would have been special. I do think Notre Dame 505 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 6: was one of the twelve best teams and should be 506 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 6: in the playoff, but that's not for me to decide. 507 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 2: I knew I liked him. Jeremy Gray, Thank you, Hey, 508 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 2: thank you guys. 509 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 3: You're listening to Kennilly Casey. It's ninety three WYBC. 510 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: So you told me something during the break, and I got, 511 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: i know, just. 512 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 2: So interested to learn more. 513 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 4: Well, we talked a lot about our health insurance during 514 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 4: the break. There had to have been something else. 515 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: Well you said that, and we'll get into that a 516 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: little bit later too, because wow, is that industry just 517 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: a mess and it's just hurting so many people. 518 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 2: You said, cassette tapes for making a comeback. 519 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, they are. 520 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 4: US sales have grown two hundred and four percent just 521 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 4: in the first quarter of this year. 522 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: Now you're talking about the when I was a kid 523 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: in your car. You know, some cars in the eighties 524 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: and early nineties had CD players, but most automobiles had. 525 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: The cassette tape. 526 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: You'd buy your favorite album and you would put it 527 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: in and it would play, and you could actually rewind 528 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: it and it would you know, that sort of cassette tape. 529 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, why that sort of one. It's a mixture of things. 530 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 4: Some of it is because it's intentional. It's like a 531 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 4: hands on experience. Like you mentioned, you have to actually 532 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 4: rewind or fast forward. Some of it has to do 533 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 4: with retro appeal. And nostalgia. It's got a little bit 534 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 4: of charm to it. 535 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 2: Look people want to look cool, okay. 536 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 3: And there's also it's tangible. 537 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 4: You can touch it and feel it and hold it, 538 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 4: so I'm like streaming. 539 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: I remember specifically in this must have been the late nineties, 540 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: early two thousand the actus I drove myself, so it 541 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: had to probably be early two thousands going to the 542 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: old Karma Records on thirty eighth Street and they. 543 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 2: Still had cassette tapes. 544 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: But I bet you haven't seen people actively selling cassette 545 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: tapes and then you know in a junk bins as 546 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: new I can remember buying Boston's debut album on cassette 547 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: at Karma Records on thirty eighth Street in the early 548 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: two thousands, but it has to have been twenty twenty 549 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: years or more since anybody has actively carried cassette tapes. 550 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 2: In their stores. 551 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 3: Okay. 552 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 4: So now you've got artists like Taylor Swift and Billie 553 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 4: Eilish and Lady Gaga and the Weekend they're all releasing 554 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 4: their music on cassette editions. keV to go with their 555 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 4: albums that they're putting out too. 556 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: You're the really eclectic member of this group. You're also 557 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: the musician. You actively seek out things on vinyl, correct. 558 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like the records why he wants to drop 559 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 3: the needle, you know. 560 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 7: I think when you buy something like that, you're committed 561 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 7: to listening to the full album and getting the full experience. 562 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 2: That's why I like it. 563 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: That's a great point, because we've talked about this. One 564 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: of the problems I have with the streaming is I'm 565 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: always feeling like there's something better, Like I can't just 566 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,959 Speaker 1: sit and watch something because in my mind, well, I'm 567 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: missing out. 568 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 2: On some other documentary that's better. 569 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm wasting my time doing this, and then you just 570 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: end up flipping spending thirty minutes flipping through everything, and 571 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: then realizing, now I'm just pissed off because I spent 572 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: all this time looking for something better instead of watching something. 573 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: And you're saying, if you have to commit to it, 574 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: this is my thing. I don't have something to press 575 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: a button and go to the next thing. 576 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 2: I'm in on this album, Yeah. 577 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 7: And you get a good quality experience from that. 578 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 3: It was interesting. 579 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 4: When I was visiting my daughter over Thanksgiving, her roommate 580 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 4: had gotten home and brought with her a DVD of 581 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 4: a movie they wanted to watch. Oh, she was very 582 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 4: excited she found the DVD. Yeah, and my daughter had 583 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 4: mentioned to me we used to have thousands of CDs 584 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 4: and she was really bummed that we got rid of 585 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 4: all of them. Yeah, thought, well, yeah, because everything's available 586 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 4: streaming now. Sure, and she is now growing a CD collection. 587 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 4: We didn't even talk about cassettes. I mean that like 588 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 4: even predates her life. 589 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: Remember they had the little binders that you could put 590 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: your CDs in. Did you slide them in the little 591 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: way so that way you could see them and easily flip, 592 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: flip through, flip through them. 593 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 3: And you carry that big binder around with you everywhere. 594 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 3: You had it in your car now the passenger seat. 595 00:28:59,360 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 2: Now. 596 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,239 Speaker 1: The tape is interesting though, because keV backed me up 597 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: on this. A lot of people like the vinyl because 598 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: they say the sound is better. 599 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what they say. That there's things that you 600 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 7: can pick up on in the mix. Yeah're clear, I 601 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 7: guess when you listen to it on vinyl. 602 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 2: But having played many a cassette tape, the sound is crap. 603 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah it is. There's a nice hissy. 604 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 7: I don't think the packaging is as cool too, because 605 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 7: that's the other thing with the vinyl is the packaging 606 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 7: and the liner notes, yeah and all that. 607 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, because with a with a record, it's 608 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: a big thing. So you can see all the things 609 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: laid out, the album art. Like cassette, it's so it's condensed, right, 610 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: it's a little bitty You're not you're not getting any 611 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: of that. 612 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 4: How how often do you you used to record your 613 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 4: favorite radio station that is a cassette. 614 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 2: That is a great question. 615 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: That is absolutely something that I used to do because 616 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: if you had little Rob Kendall that So there was 617 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: a radio station in Brownsburg, the first one I ended 618 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: up working at. It was an oldies station at the time, 619 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: and they were very pleased that anyone would call them 620 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: for anything. So if you called and asked them to 621 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: play something, they would usually play it in a somewhat 622 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: timely fashion. And so if you if you recorded properly, 623 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: you get enough of the songs you wanted that you 624 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: didn't have to go out and actually buy the album. 625 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: You absolutely could, right, right, So. 626 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 4: A lot of people, yeah, it's it's a retro thing, right, nostalgia. 627 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: It also speaks to the power that we have put 628 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: on these influencers or whatever, especially in a social media 629 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: era like it used to be. 630 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 2: People at power. 631 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: They were influential you saw on the big screen, but 632 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: they couldn't come out and just make a blanket statement. 633 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: They had to have the buy in of their industry, 634 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: record executives, whatever in order to do something. Now, someone 635 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: like a Taylor Swift can just issue some sort of 636 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: statement and nine million pissed off women mad at their 637 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: boyfriends or husbands just go do whatever she says. 638 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 2: And so you're right. 639 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: She can say, hey, cassettes are cool, and for no 640 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: rhyme or reason. 641 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 2: Whatsoever, everybody falls in line right there. 642 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: I mean, there's zero reason a cassette should come back, because, 643 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: like keV said, hey, there is validity to the album, 644 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: the idea of the nostalgia feel, the idea of the artwork, 645 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: the sound is is better if you're really into it. 646 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: None of that is true with the cassette tape. Nope, 647 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: none of it's true with the Taylor Swift. 648 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 4: You know, she's got her new music out the Life 649 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 4: of a Showgirl. 650 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: I did not know that, well, you said, you know, 651 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: as though I followed Taylor Swift. Is this one also 652 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: about how much men have ruined her existence. 653 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 3: I don't know what it's about it. 654 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 2: This is also about how nothing is her fault. 655 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 4: But she released eighteen different physical versions, including cassette Oh 656 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 4: eighteen Different. 657 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 3: Ways Someone Likes Money. 658 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 4: It is Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three widc