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Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome in to Tuesday. I feel like

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Speaker 1: this should still be Victory Tuesday with all the surrounding

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Speaker 1: hype of Indiana Football and the Indianapolis Colts and everybody

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Speaker 1: rolling around. I go back to what I said yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Kevin Bowen, Good morning James Boyd and Caleb

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Speaker 1: Zuverer's back again from Mark Dyton today. Did a great

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Speaker 1: job yesterday. I'd sign up for eleven and one between

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Speaker 1: the two teams each and every year, would you not,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen? As long as you've been around here and

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Speaker 1: see how things have been.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I'd say the most impressive then Colts you related,

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Speaker 2: maybe even our workplace related? Is the timing that you

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Speaker 2: just executed right there behind the sausage. How does the

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Speaker 2: sausage get made? Can you walked in as soon as

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Speaker 2: as soon as the final highlight was being played? That

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Speaker 2: is Daniel Jones timing on a third down to Josh Downs.

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Speaker 1: I was actually talking to the producer from WWC in

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Speaker 1: the hall way, and you can hear what we have

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Speaker 1: going on on the air. Love There's no delay out there,

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Speaker 1: so I knew it was time to come in.

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Speaker 2: That's all I wou was excellent. I mean here, I am.

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Speaker 2: My heart's pounding, I'm sweating. I'm thinking, oh boy, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna have start the show and then boom.

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Speaker 1: That's how it works, James, did you take Boks right in?

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Speaker 1: That's how you do it right there?

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Speaker 3: Hey man, I'm just for the record, what comes to

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Speaker 3: the show.

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Speaker 4: The last person who was late was not me, just saying,

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Speaker 4: just saying, so I have learned a few things from you, Jeff,

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Speaker 4: I've to use it again.

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Speaker 5: Yea.

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Speaker 3: Actually, well, no good timing and another good morning here

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it's gonna be a lot of fun. We

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Speaker 1: were in here early looking at everything, and I know

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Speaker 1: one of the big topics for everybody in college football

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Speaker 1: is going to be penn State's opening and Kurt Signetti

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Speaker 1: and you know, being a Pennsylvania guys, you gonna be there.

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Speaker 1: I just the more I tell and I talked to

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Speaker 1: into college football that I've known over the years. And

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Speaker 1: then obviously, like everybody else reading what you see, hearing

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be really difficult for Penn State to

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Speaker 1: their heart was set on Kurt Signetti, I think it'd

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Speaker 1: so sure Signette you would want to go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I frankly, I think Signetti's ego wants to be

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Speaker 2: the guy at IU that you say in the same

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Speaker 2: And I don't think he could go to Penn State

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Speaker 2: accomplish that. You're always going to play second fiddle to

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Speaker 2: Joe Paterno, of course. So yeah, I you know, as

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Speaker 2: I said yesterday, I think you can make a case

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Speaker 2: Penn State job than anyone would have ever imagined three, five,

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Speaker 2: ten years ago. But that's a landscape of how college

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Speaker 2: football's changed, and I would be surprised if Kurt Signetti

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Speaker 2: left Indiana for Penn State.

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Speaker 1: I know, James, you're focused mostly on the daytime with

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Speaker 1: the Colts and pro football in the NFL and things

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Speaker 1: like that, but we're all aware of how buyouts work

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Speaker 1: and how things would go there. It costs a lot

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Speaker 1: of money right now for not only Penn State, who's

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Speaker 1: eaten forty eight million to fifty million dollars of money

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Speaker 1: that they owe James Franklin, And it would probably cost

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Speaker 1: them somewhere between ten and thirteen million to go and

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Speaker 1: get Kurt Signetti on top of that. That's before you

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Speaker 1: even start talking about his salary. He's already making eight

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Speaker 1: don't even know financially, is as much money as people

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Speaker 2: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I guess there's always a possibility. But like

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Speaker 4: I said yesterday, if you're cursing Natty, you just use

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Speaker 4: I've just done this year. You know how it goes. Usually,

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of how I look at it.

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Speaker 4: But I would definitely say, you know, speaking of the Colts,

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Speaker 4: there is some big news we have to discuss related

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Speaker 4: he will miss at least the next four games, which

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Speaker 4: means also the next five weeks because there's a bye

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Speaker 4: weekend there after you come.

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Speaker 3: Back from overseas.

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Speaker 4: So the Colts most likely I would think we'll go

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Speaker 4: out and sign to the quarterback perhaps today, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and obviously Riley Leonard's never played a snap in

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Speaker 1: a long way from jumping in there and doing that.

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Speaker 1: Who are some of the names you brought up a

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Speaker 1: few yesterday, Kevin, anybody that might be out there that

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not trying to get anyone to hurl their

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Speaker 2: maybe we can wait a little bit later, let that digest.

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Speaker 1: And he tells you all you need to know right there, keep.

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Speaker 2: Four sixty five as clean as possible here in the

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Speaker 2: morning rush hour. We we'll throw some names out there.

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Speaker 2: But James, I think the news item yesterday, the fact

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Speaker 2: that Richardson will be out for a month, and you know,

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Speaker 2: as you said, five weeks with the buy four total games,

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Speaker 2: that is a little bit of a different thought than

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Speaker 2: maybe this time yesterday we were just kind of unsure

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Speaker 2: going to be four games. My question then becomes, because

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Speaker 2: it's going to be so long, do you change how

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Speaker 2: much you invest in this move? If he was just

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Speaker 2: going to be a week or two, could you've gotten

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Speaker 2: by with Riley Leonard? Could you have done something a

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Speaker 2: more serious and then the domino effect off of that,

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Speaker 2: Let's play out the hypothetical, Hey, you hate the free

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Speaker 2: agent quarterback market that's out there. You want to trade

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Speaker 2: bit more quality in there. Okay, let's say you give

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Speaker 2: You don't have your fifth round pick. You traded your

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Speaker 2: sixth round pick earlier this year for Makai Blackman, a

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Speaker 2: corner that's actually now playing a ton for you. Does

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Speaker 2: Chris Ballard then have any hesitation towards moving draft picks

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Speaker 2: for other areas of need here with the trade deadline

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Speaker 2: three weeks from today. These are all dominoes that I

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Speaker 2: think impact the Colts' decision. I assume they will sign

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Speaker 2: a quarterback. Obviously, the question becomes is he the backup?

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Speaker 2: Is he the third stringer? And then how much do

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Speaker 2: you invest in this move? I think those are all

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Speaker 2: really important storylines and certainly something the Colts have not

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Speaker 2: had to encounter in quite some time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and of course they have a game coming up

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Speaker 1: on Sunday against the Chargers Los Angeles. We know that

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Speaker 1: it going, but they also have some injury bugs that

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Speaker 1: they're fighting through, and they had to pull out all

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Speaker 1: to beat the Miami Dolphins. James, So, as you sit

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Speaker 1: here today on a Tuesday, looking ahead, how do you

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Speaker 3: That's a great question.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, honestly, which is find of the answer

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Speaker 4: you want to give as a reporter, right, But I

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Speaker 4: really don't know.

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Speaker 3: We don't know the injury.

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Speaker 4: Report for the Colts just yet because they have in

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Speaker 4: practice this week, and then we don't have the charges

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Speaker 4: they're gonna be feeling coming off of their big wins.

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Speaker 4: So I think that's a question that I probably can

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Speaker 4: answer later in the week, just because then you'll be

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Speaker 4: able to see who's practice who hasn't, and then what

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Speaker 4: to kind of get themselves ready for a big matchup.

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Speaker 1: See, I feel the same way. I was hoping you'd

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Speaker 1: because I don't have one yet either. I can't quite

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Speaker 1: get a grip on it yet. Nah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's tough. It's tough to kind of

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Speaker 1: Talk about tough, you just look at the NFL scores

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Speaker 1: and it truly is Kevin the old cliche, and most

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Speaker 1: cliches become cliches because they're true at some point. But

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Speaker 1: the league and their teams, we didn't see winning that

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Speaker 1: did a great job. Kansas City recovered and they Detroit's

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Speaker 1: Did you anybody have Atlanta beating the Buffalo Bills last night?

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Speaker 2: I didn't.

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Speaker 1: They were better. The Bears started playing well all of a sudden.

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Speaker 1: So at least Mark dyke and can sleep on his

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Speaker 2: Someone said when that field goal went in, Mark just

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Speaker 2: got another week of vacation.

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Speaker 1: He probably did. Is that true? Yes, he got more PTO.

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Speaker 2: Ran into someone in HR when I was coming off

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Speaker 2: the elevator. Is that true? Can you confirm that as

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Speaker 1: I've heard whispers. I'll have to go and see when

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Speaker 1: the HR window opens today to go and check that out. Also,

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Speaker 1: PACER's playing at home last night, lost in the final

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Speaker 1: count to the San Antonio Spurs, but they're going to

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Speaker 1: have some issues at nights at center, and they did

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Speaker 1: last night, certainly against the guy like Victor Wimbinyam and

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Speaker 1: But not a field goal was made by the four

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Speaker 2: Yeah, their center stunk more fouls than rebounds, even if

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Speaker 2: you don't want to point to points, more thousand rebounds.

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Speaker 2: Probably not a good effort from that four man group.

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Speaker 2: And fouling has been an issue, particularly with the starter.

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Speaker 2: And it looks like Isaiah Jackson will indeed be the

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Speaker 2: opening night starter based off how they've treated this offseason.

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Speaker 2: I want to say he's played, I'd have to look

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Speaker 2: at it. I want to say it's like thirty minutes

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Speaker 2: this preseason and he has nine fouls. Wow, So defending

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Speaker 2: without fouling a clear issue for a center that is

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Speaker 3: And that's been an issue for him throughout his career obviously.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that has definitely been an issue. So that is

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Speaker 2: definitely a question. Benedict Matherin was otherworldly as a score

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Speaker 1: Third preseason game of the year for the Indiana Pacers

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Speaker 1: That's how that works. Week seven coming up, it'll be

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Speaker 1: anything else you want to throw in? James Boyd before

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Speaker 1: we had.

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Speaker 4: To break Brian Branch the Detroit Lions safety. He got

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Speaker 4: suspended for a game for that scuffle after the Chiefs

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Speaker 4: Lions dust up. And looking at his history, it probably

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Speaker 4: isn't all that surprising. I would imagine he appeals it.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, he's been a guy who's constant Libin's flag

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Speaker 4: for on sportsmen conduct and got fined in the past,

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Speaker 4: and the nfls that they had enough. So we will

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Speaker 4: see if Detroit will be without one of their best

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Speaker 4: players this coming week.

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Speaker 1: All right, coming up in a moment, we'll talk more

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Speaker 1: Colts and Pacers last night, also Purdue basketball. Later on today,

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Speaker 1: Alex Golden is going to join us to talk Pacers

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Speaker 1: at eight point thirty. Zach Kiefer Colts at nine o'clock.

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Speaker 1: For those of you at who missed it in the

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Speaker 1: late part of the eight o'clock hour yesterday. We'll spend

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Speaker 1: a few minutes with Josh Downs. You can hear just

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Speaker 1: a couple of minutes of that coming up at a

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Speaker 1: few minutes here as we continue a busy morning here

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Speaker 1: at ninety three five and one oh seven to five

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Speaker 1: of the Fan Week, rolling on It's Tuesday morning. James Voyd,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen, Caleb zuver in here today from Mark dyked

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Speaker 1: in again, who's a very happy man somewhere in Florida,

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Speaker 1: I would imagine after his Bears came up with a

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Speaker 1: little revenge game against the Washington Commanders on Monday night football.

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Speaker 1: We didn't even talk that much about baseball, guys, so

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Speaker 1: much going on, but the league Championship series were continuing

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Speaker 1: last night. The Mariners of the Blue Jays ten to three,

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Speaker 1: have taken a two games to none lead in that

466
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Speaker 1: American League series. They had home runs all over the place,

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Speaker 1: and the Dodgers pitching is just nasty right now. Maybe

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Speaker 1: Joel A. Erickson just wants to sleep in today because

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Speaker 1: two to one the win over the Brewers today. Our

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Speaker 1: last night Blake Snell again just almost untouchable, eight innings

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Speaker 1: of shutout, one hit baseball, and ten strikeouts, no walks.

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Speaker 1: So sorry, I didn't talk about baseball that much last night,

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Speaker 1: but it's it's getting real now, James, and you were

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Speaker 1: saying you tuned into a game last week. You're like,

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Speaker 1: how do you people do this for one hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty two games in the playoffs? Right?

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Speaker 3: He's too stressful. And I told you all.

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Speaker 4: The reason to add to my stress is because I

479
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Speaker 4: can't play my best player every game. It could all

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Speaker 4: come down to the calendar and rest. And you know

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Speaker 4: that's why I feel like when I again, I feel

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Speaker 4: a little bit older, like, hey, how come this guy

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Speaker 4: can't just throw it to those arm falls off? They're

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Speaker 4: trying to win the World Series here. But yeah, it's

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Speaker 4: been good stuff and I really do try to tune

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Speaker 4: in whenever anybody else I feel like he's talking about

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Speaker 4: a big game on my social media, that'll make me

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Speaker 4: tune in because I'm like, I don't want to miss out.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, a lot of cool moments you can always

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Speaker 4: catch that way.

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Speaker 1: I love that, though. The managing of pitching stabs when

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Speaker 1: you get to the Alcs and particularly in the World

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Speaker 1: Series where in the World Series, Kevin, you're your ace.

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Speaker 1: If you get him on the right rest to start

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Speaker 1: things off. He might start three games one, four, and seven,

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Speaker 1: or I've seen where he starts one and four and

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Speaker 1: he's just available in the bullpen for the last three

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Speaker 1: games and you know, maybe in the eighth inning instead

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Speaker 1: of your normal setup guy, here comes your ace. It's

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Speaker 1: that's one thing I love about baseball. It's just all

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Speaker 1: hands on deck at that point. Anybody who can do anything,

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Speaker 1: let's go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, always great drama. Brewers had opportunities last night. They

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Speaker 2: had a hell of a double play in that first an.

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Speaker 1: Eight eight to six to two. Is that what it was?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the scorebook would be in shambles if I was

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Speaker 2: keeping score there trying to figure that one out. But

508
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Speaker 2: they had moments they couldn't get it done there. So

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Speaker 2: road teams right, so far, so far they won all

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Speaker 2: three games, is that correct? There? Going up to them

511
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Speaker 2: taking too north of the border and the Dodgers get

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Speaker 2: it done last night.

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Speaker 1: Mariners are the only team in Major League Baseball that

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Speaker 1: have never hosted a World Series game.

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Speaker 2: Really, yeah, and never would have guessed that.

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Speaker 1: No, no, never, never. They got close once with the King,

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Speaker 1: Griffy Junior and Jay Buhner and Randy Johnson and all

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Speaker 1: those guys, but they couldn't quite finish the deal. Uh

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Speaker 1: So any of that's going on with the Major League Baseball,

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Speaker 1: uh the Colts just kind of keep rolling along. And

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Speaker 1: one thing is I love Kevin about this receiving corse.

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Speaker 1: You never know who's gonna step up. Michael Pittman is

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Speaker 1: just so steady and so rock solid. Alec Pierre back

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Speaker 1: now and he's always a threat to come up with

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Speaker 1: a thirty or forty yard game. And Josh Downs is

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Speaker 1: just kind of kept working hard and working hard, and

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Speaker 1: he's become ultra dependable and he gets the ball in

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Speaker 1: his hands and he's tough to bring down. But you

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Speaker 1: throw Tyler Warren into that mix, and even JT's getting

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Speaker 1: some some looks out of the backfield, and man Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones and Shane Stuck and they have so many options

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Speaker 1: right now with the football, don't they.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they got great balance, great balance to the skill group. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor's presidence probably speaks for itself, and he should

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Speaker 2: be up there in any sort of award situation. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're pass catching group. You know, coming into the year,

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Speaker 2: I think the thought was, hey, this is probably the

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Speaker 2: best group that has been there in the Ballard era,

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Speaker 2: and so far, I think that would play out. You know, again,

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Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, you're on Sunday. It wasn't necessarily

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Speaker 2: your top guys. I think kind of Warren and Pittman maybe.

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Speaker 2: If you want to isolated anybody into that group, it

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Speaker 2: was Downs. It was Pierce making big plays for you.

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Speaker 2: Down seven, down three, So great balance, and I think

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Speaker 2: that's what makes us so difficult. Daniel Jones certainly is

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Speaker 2: not afraid to spread the ball around, and it's been

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Speaker 2: a big reason why the Colts have been so good

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Speaker 2: offensively here through the first six weeks.

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Speaker 1: Jimps, how good could Josh Downs be because he just

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Speaker 1: seems to come up every big every time they call

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Speaker 1: his number.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think we were sold on him pretty

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Speaker 4: earlier in his career. A lot of it just comes

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Speaker 4: down opportunity. Like you said to us on the show yesterday,

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Speaker 4: you know, you're not gonna get probably as many targets

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Speaker 4: as you would have got without the arrival of Tyler Warrence.

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Speaker 3: When you get him, you gotta make it. Take advantage

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Speaker 3: of him.

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Speaker 4: So I thought that he's he's a guy who when

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Speaker 4: it comes to targeting him, usually that results in good things.

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Speaker 4: And it's not just like you're spamming, you know, the

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Speaker 4: ball towards him, or you're just throwing at him in

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Speaker 4: volume and it's like, oh, he's not to catch one

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Speaker 4: of them.

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Speaker 3: No, he if you put it in his area, he

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Speaker 3: usually comes down with it.

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Speaker 4: And so he's also very talented making the first guy miss,

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Speaker 4: which I think, you know, to Kevin's point yesterday, is

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Speaker 4: sort of a anate skill that can Josh kind of

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Speaker 4: how he described it, because I do think that is

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Speaker 4: taken for granted. His ability to kind of always move

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Speaker 4: the chains on third down and usually that's it means

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Speaker 4: throwing it short of the sticks and letting him, you know,

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Speaker 4: kind of work some magic there, but it's not magic

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Speaker 4: because he does it all the time. So talented player,

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Speaker 4: confident player, and comes from a football family. So I'm

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Speaker 4: not surprised.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And we had a chance to talk to Josh

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Speaker 1: downs late in the eight o'clock hour yesterday, and I

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Speaker 1: know I hear from people all the time that are

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Speaker 1: in their cars early in the seven o'clock hour. I

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Speaker 1: have to get to work by eight o'clock and then

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Speaker 1: can't listen to those things. So for those that didn't

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Speaker 1: get to hear that our seven o'clockers, here's a little

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Speaker 1: few minutes of the conversation we had with Josh Downs,

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Speaker 1: who had a tremendous day, even a touchdown grab as

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Speaker 1: the Colts got to win over the Cardinals on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Josh Downs, good morning, my friend. What a day for

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Speaker 1: yourself and the Colts and Daniel Jones and this whole

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Speaker 1: team in city yesterday. How are you feeling this morning

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Speaker 1: on a victory Monday, Yes, sir, glad to be here.

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Speaker 5: Shoot, I'm glad to get a Victory's the most important

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Speaker 5: thing as a team, and ready to get after the

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Speaker 5: Chargers this week and face another good team.

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Speaker 1: Josh, could you walk us through the touchdown?

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Speaker 5: There?

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Speaker 2: Obviously quite the hit the end zone, little lofted ball

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Speaker 2: from Daniel Jones. What did you see on that touchdown?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, just a good play call by Shane gave

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Speaker 5: us a man beating play and they were in man

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Speaker 5: so it kind of lined up perfectly. And yeah, I

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Speaker 5: didn't even see that guy that hit me. He really

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Speaker 5: he really snug me. I didn't even see him til

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Speaker 5: after I caught the ball, so I had I had

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Speaker 5: to take one. But sometimes in football you gotta you

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Speaker 5: gotta take some hits to make some plays, and I

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Speaker 5: had to take a couple yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Now our co host here, James boyd uh, he thought

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Speaker 2: a little bad juju on you going faking injury after that.

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Speaker 2: He's not doing that to me, man, with those pregame

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Speaker 2: warm ups, Cam Bine him did that after the first

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Speaker 2: interception of the year. Do you did you think bad

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Speaker 2: juju faking the injury?

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Speaker 6: Nah?

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Speaker 1: Nah?

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Speaker 5: Nah. So actually I was a little shaken up at first,

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Speaker 5: like it wasn't it was a fake, but it was

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Speaker 5: also kind of real, like I had like I took

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Speaker 5: a little hit, so I was like, oh snap, because

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Speaker 5: I was like my first time this year taking a hit.

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Speaker 1: So I was like I had to like.

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Speaker 5: Kind of like oh okay, like I'm good now.

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Speaker 1: And then and then I like.

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Speaker 5: Then I did it the little selly but now Cam

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Speaker 5: got me earlier this year when he did that, I

626
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Speaker 5: was like, I was like, man, what And then he

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Speaker 5: she knows for them though, and he came up to

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Speaker 5: me and was like, hey, I like that, I.

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Speaker 7: See you see all you doing is stressing me.

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Speaker 4: You're stressing me because I'm like, oh my gosh, there's

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Speaker 4: number one.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I feel you, I feel you know.

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Speaker 1: More of that, No, more of that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was about to say, I don't know if

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Speaker 4: coach Gary Downs would approved, you know, but looking at

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Speaker 4: what your office is able to do, Josh. You know

637
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Speaker 4: we've talked so much about your quarterback Daniel Jones. From

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Speaker 4: your perspective as someone who works with him every day,

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Speaker 4: what is it like to be around someone who is

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Speaker 4: so obsessive about his craft to find those wrinkles to

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Speaker 4: help you win in the biggest moments like you did

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Speaker 4: yesterday with that game when he.

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Speaker 5: Drives, Oh, I'm not huge because he's dedicated to the team.

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Speaker 5: He's dedicated to his own performance. So that helps a

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Speaker 5: tremendous amount. When you have your quarterback as one of

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Speaker 5: your hardest workers, if not the hardest work on the team,

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Speaker 5: it just trickles down and it's shown.

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Speaker 1: So he's doing a great job.

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Speaker 5: And I mean all he can do is just keep

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Speaker 5: doing what he's doing that and that'll play itself out.

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Speaker 4: And then what does that look like from an obsession standpoint?

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Speaker 4: You're a wide receiver on the team. What is he

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Speaker 4: like on a day to day basis throughout the week

654
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Speaker 4: they'll be pair for a game when you know, like

655
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Speaker 4: he told us last week, he's late to dinner every

656
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 4: week because he's watching film.

657
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he's he's watching tape all the time.

658
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Speaker 5: He's in there on off day working, He's in there

659
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Speaker 5: early every single day. So he just does things like

660
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 5: that that that kind of just show his leadership and

661
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Speaker 5: setting set an example for the guys on the team.

662
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Speaker 5: And he's just showing us that he completely dedicated every

663
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Speaker 5: single day. And I mean I always see him watching tape.

664
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Speaker 5: So that for one, as a quarterback, that's a green flag.

665
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Speaker 2: Six catches for Josh Downs yesterday and you heard that

666
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Speaker 2: highlight the big touchdown there to tie the game early

667
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Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. We appreciate Josh Down's joining us

668
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Speaker 2: here on this Monday morning. Josh, what goes through your

669
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Speaker 2: head when you see a linebacker lined up opposite you?

670
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Speaker 5: It's a must I must win matchup. That's that's pretty

671
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 5: much what goes to my head is something that you

672
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 5: gotta win when they get you in those positions. So definitely,

673
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 5: like those opportunities or safety is either one, but I

674
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 5: feel like, yeah, those matchups are the ones you got

675
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 5: to cash in on.

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Speaker 2: We were talking earlier, like your yards after catch, your

677
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: knack for just knowing where defenders are. I almost feel

678
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Speaker 2: like at times you've got eyes in the back of

679
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Speaker 2: your head. Can you kind of walk us through that feel?

680
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Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe it's hard to describe, but like,

681
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: are you super conscious like where defenders are around you?

682
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Speaker 2: It's like you secure the catch and then seemingly you

683
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Speaker 2: know which way to spin or whatever dart every time

684
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Speaker 2: post catch.

685
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Speaker 5: Kind of kind of an instinct thing, just just born

686
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 5: blessed with it, honestly, just a ball instinct. And then

687
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 5: over the years playing football and then just knowing coverages

688
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 5: pre snap, post snap and understanding like okay, if I

689
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 5: if I break here, somebody's going to be there, that

690
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 5: kind of thing. But it's it's it's a lot of instincts,

691
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 5: just just playing football for a long time.

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Speaker 4: Josh, When you look at the pregame scene, what was

693
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Speaker 4: your reaction to finding out that Anthony Richardson was gonna

694
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Speaker 4: be taken to the hospital after an accident with the

695
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Speaker 4: stretching man before the game, and then Mooney war goes

696
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 4: down with concussion, just as a player, how did you

697
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 4: kind of absorb all of that and then get ready

698
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Speaker 4: to go play a game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was just a little weird, like atmosphere, like

700
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Speaker 5: obviously it's two crazy accidents that you don't want to

701
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Speaker 5: happen to two of your teammates and friends. So I

702
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 5: mean that was that was just weird. And then like

703
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 5: having to go play a game when you know that too, Like,

704
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Speaker 5: I mean, those aren't like serious injuries just happened.

705
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Speaker 6: Out of nowhere.

706
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Speaker 5: You're just like like kind of like shocked in a sense.

707
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Speaker 5: But I mean then it was more so like let's

708
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 5: go win for him, and let's go out here and

709
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 5: handle business.

710
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Speaker 1: So it was it was a little odd for sure.

711
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Speaker 5: It was just like I've never had a pre game

712
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 5: like that, and I'm pretty sure like everyone on this

713
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 5: team has never had a pre game like that, So

714
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Speaker 5: it was just a little different.

715
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Speaker 1: Talking to Josh Downs on the paylst Lickers Hotline this

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Speaker 1: morning at a big Day helped the Colts to a

717
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Speaker 1: thirty one to twenty seven win over the Cardinals yesterday.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about this earlier, right, I'm pretty sure

719
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Speaker 1: it's you, But who would you say, objectively, is the

720
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Speaker 1: best athlete in your family.

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Speaker 5: The best athlete in my is Yeah, definitely me. But

722
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Speaker 5: I would say my brother is a colase. Second, he's like,

723
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Speaker 5: if we're talking about pure athleticism and we're talking about

724
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Speaker 5: pure athleticism, it's meat.

725
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Speaker 1: But he's he is.

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Speaker 5: A very very good football player, and he's he has

727
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 5: great instincts. But I can play more sports at a

728
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 5: higher level than him.

729
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Speaker 1: So what about dad?

730
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Speaker 5: Nah, he's right. I honestly he might have been pure athlete.

731
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Speaker 5: He might have been more of a pure athlete when

732
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Speaker 5: he was younger. But see, they didn't have They had

733
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Speaker 5: some tape back then, but they didn't have all the tape,

734
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Speaker 5: A mystery.

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Speaker 2: His dad washed, Josh, are you if I've got my

736
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: calendars right, I believe you guys would be in Jacksonville.

737
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Speaker 2: Not that Shane would let you out of the team

738
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: hotel if you were an indie, but you would be

739
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: in Jacksonville the night before the Big Ten championship game.

740
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Speaker 2: Are you yet to the point where you're running your

741
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: mouth to eye you football fans? Your brother a star

742
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: safety at Ohio State for those unfamiliar, Oh no.

743
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 6: Not yet.

744
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 5: So I use actually a good football team. I watched

745
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Speaker 5: them play Orgon this week and I mean they looked

746
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 5: they look like one of the best, if not top

747
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 5: top three in the country.

748
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Speaker 6: So I'm away to that they got it.

749
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Speaker 5: They're gonna have to clash against each other probably in

750
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 5: the Big ten cham and shit, but you got you

751
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 5: got teams like Michigan who are still right there, Oregon

752
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 5: right there. So no no trash talk yet. You just

753
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 5: you gotta wait till it comes down to it and

754
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 5: then but you know, I got I got it. I'm

755
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 5: gonna have some story posts for sure. And the Hoover

756
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 5: fans are not going to.

757
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: Be excited about that.

758
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 5: They're going to be like, you're not repping your state,

759
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 5: You're going against the Green Like I'm gonna get some

760
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 5: dms like that, And I'm just like you, I'm like,

761
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 5: come on, like you gotta go with your family over

762
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 5: like it's just it's just a known thing.

763
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Speaker 1: But it is what it is for right.

764
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Speaker 4: Now, I don't know, man, it sounds like you're already

765
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 4: making excuses for this. You're supposed to be, you know, Josh,

766
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Speaker 4: the last one I got for you, and obviously coming

767
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 4: off of a big win, how much do you think

768
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Speaker 4: the presence of Tyler Warren has changed the math for

769
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Speaker 4: your offense.

770
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Speaker 3: And you've talked about it a little.

771
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 4: Bit, but we throw on that cliche of like, oh,

772
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 4: you got to be unselfish as a receiver and all

773
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 4: the guys that's so on selfish with the Colts, how

774
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 4: selfish are you really?

775
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Speaker 3: I mean to play the position of wide receiver and

776
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 3: do you did?

777
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 4: You have to kind of come to grips with that

778
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 4: a little bit more when you have a guy Tyler

779
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 4: Warren come to town.

780
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 5: So, yeah, Tyler Tyler is an excellent player. He helps

781
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 5: our offense and like in a huge way because he

782
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 5: just adds another big weapon to the group and JT

783
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 5: is playing at a high level. But yeah, it's I mean, obviously,

784
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 5: like receivers are known as kind of divas, so we

785
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 5: have a we have a selfish knack just naturally.

786
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: That we're born with.

787
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 5: I feel like like that's just how we are. But

788
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 5: it kind of like develops your character in a way

789
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 5: and it makes you realize, like not everything goes your

790
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 5: way and you have to you have to still like

791
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 5: take advantage of the opportunities that you do get, because

792
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 5: if you're sitting there like dwelling, like all like I

793
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 5: need the ball more, this, that, and the third you're

794
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 5: complaining blah blah blah. Typically when the ball comes your

795
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 5: way after that you make a mistake and that's when

796
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 5: they're like, Okay, then why are we throwing you the

797
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 5: ball if you're going to do that. So then now

798
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 5: you're like, now you're trying to like prove yourself in

799
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 5: a sense. So rather than that, you just to be like, man,

800
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take advantage of everything that comes my way

801
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 5: to get better each and every day, and everything will

802
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 5: work yourself out, and then you just go from there.

803
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 5: Obviously you're gonna have days where you're like frustrat like, man,

804
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 5: I want the ball more. But at the end of

805
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 5: the day, team winning were rolling, so you got to

806
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 5: just be like, you know what, as long as we winning,

807
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 5: I got a roll, I'm on the team, Like, let's

808
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 5: just keep doing.

809
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: It, all right. Those Josh downs yesterday joining us here

810
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: on the Payless Liquors Hotline number one and he got

811
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: a touchdown and he keeps rolling on and James, we

812
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: talked about that receiving core and at the very end

813
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: thereere we talked about Tyler Warren too, and he just

814
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: does open up everything. And when they came out like

815
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: they did in that first game. We talked about it

816
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: a little bit yesterday, but he came out in the

817
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: first quarter yesterday and they're throwing him the ball and

818
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: they're doing different things with him. It just sends a

819
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: message to the defenses like, y'all don't know what's coming

820
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: Between j T and Pittman and Warren and Josh Downs

821
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: and Alec Peerce is back now, and we even got

822
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: some other guys, We're gonna throw it at you here

823
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 1: and there too. Yeah.

824
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 4: Here's a stat from NFL Pro which is basically like

825
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 4: an NFL man at a website with a bunch of

826
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 4: weird stats, and it said Tyler Warren caught at least

827
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 4: one pass from four different alignments.

828
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 3: He was lined up as a tight end.

829
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 4: In the slot, out wide, as a wide receiver, and

830
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 4: in the backfield, so he caught a pass from all

831
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 4: four of those alignments. And they say he called all

832
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 4: five of his open targets for fifty eight yards, meaning

833
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 4: open targets mean three yards and more separation. So it

834
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 4: basically means that when he lines up anywhere, he gets

835
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 4: open from anywhere so special player and someone who I

836
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 4: think is making a case and not just be the

837
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 4: offensive rookie of the year. I think that you can

838
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 4: make a case that he's making a Pro Bowl, you

839
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 4: know move and possibly All Pro move this early in

840
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 4: the season. I get it's very early, still just six

841
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 4: games in, but that's the level he's playing at.

842
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 3: I don't want to dismiss it.

843
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: And Kevin, when you talk about what Daniel Jones is

844
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: doing with efficiency, we talk about the receiving court and

845
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren, it's clear that the MVP of this team

846
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: is still Jonathan Taylor, is it not?

847
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? I always kind of get torn on like how

848
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 2: do you define MVP? Do you really go acronym? Jon

849
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 2: Tanto's the best player?

850
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? But he also keeps.

851
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 3: Oh, the most valuable is definitely Daniel Jones, you know, easily.

852
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 2: I'm always torn on that, like, Okay, what do you

853
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: really follow what MVP?

854
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks always win it? Yeah?

855
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 3: J led the league rushing in twenty twenty one eight

856
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 3: to make the playoffs.

857
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm always kind of torn on that. But

858
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: obviously they've been tremendous and I don't know if there

859
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: is like I don't know data that I should probably

860
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: look into a little bit more. But the last two weeks,

861
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: the fact that they are ten of ten in the

862
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: red zone. I mean, you would talk to I think

863
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 2: a lot of people around the NFL and they said,

864
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: so much of NFL games just boils down to who

865
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 2: converts in the red zone and who doesn't. You know,

866
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 2: if you look at Sunday, the Cardinals had two more

867
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: drives reached the red zone. The Cardinals moved the ball

868
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: better than the Colts moved it on Sunday, the Raiders

869
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: shockingly moved it like at the same uh you know

870
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: pace that the Colts did a week earlier. The Raiders

871
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 2: they lost by thirty four, but they were what over

872
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 2: four couldn't couldn't finish off in the red zone. So

873
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 2: so much of it comes down when you get inside

874
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 2: the twenty and the field condenses and all of a sudden,

875
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: you need really your excellent os to either be perfect

876
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: or your players to make plays. I mean, that's what

877
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: it boils down to. And go back to the Raiders game.

878
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, it makes a play, rolls to his right.

879
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: Everything looks a little chaotic. Late first half, Boom throws

880
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: a frozen rope to Michael Pittman Junior in the back

881
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 2: of the end zone. Fast forward to this Sunday. Who

882
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: makes plays in the red zones? We just had Josh

883
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 2: Downs on That was a play that Jones makes lofting

884
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: and over the defense and then Josh Downs takes a

885
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: huge hit. You look at Tyler Warren, obviously he makes

886
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: plays in the red zone for you, and you look

887
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 2: at the Cardinals and they didn't make anything happen in

888
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 2: the red zone. There so so much of it I

889
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: think boils down to really a point eighty for this

890
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: team compared to the early start of the season when

891
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 2: the red zone had some struggles. Now they're clicking big

892
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: time inside the twenty.

893
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: Yeah text line is open as well. This morning here

894
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: on the fan text line two nine ten seventy nine,

895
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: ten seventy Matt Nitty talking about those guys says crazy

896
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: because he's only twenty six. But Jay t only need

897
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: seven rushing touchdowns to pass Edgrin for the most in

898
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: Cults franchise history. Seven touchdowns through six games of eleven

899
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: games left one hundred percent our team MVP from Matt

900
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: in Indy and again, it just depends on how you

901
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: define it and how it goes, but you don't. Nothing

902
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: works unless the guy driving that car at the wheel

903
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 1: makes it go, and Daniel Jones is making it go.

904
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: James, what do you think the urgency will be? Quarter

905
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: Maybe we can get in some quarterback names on the

906
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: other side, but do you think it will be I

907
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: don't know, one to ten scale, let's invest a good amount,

908
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 2: or do you think it'll be, Hey, we'll find a quarterback,

909
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: but we'reking ten if the resume isn't too impressive and

910
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: we think whatever Daniel Jones will continue to stay healthy.

911
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, scale of one to ten, I put the level

912
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 4: of urgency probably like a four. I probably lean towards

913
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 4: the end of what you just said, where they're not

914
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 4: going to invest a ton of like draft capital in

915
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 4: a backup quarterback. And honestly, I got to kick out

916
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 4: of somebody responding to my social media posts about these

917
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 4: yesterday saying, you know, if you lose Daniel Jones, the

918
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 4: season lost anyway.

919
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 3: Type of thing. So we imagine saying, I know where

920
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 3: it's like, you don't want to necessarily invest too much

921
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 3: into something where you know if you're if you're if

922
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 3: you lose them for an extended period of time.

923
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 4: Your season's over. But I do think they need to

924
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 4: go out and get somebody that's more experienced in Rally Leonard.

925
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 4: That's not I'm knocking Lelly Leonard. I think the Rally

926
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 4: is a fine player, and we'll be a fine player

927
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 4: in this league. But to go from the bench to oh,

928
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 4: Daniel has to miss a game or two, here's the

929
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 4: first place Colts like that is not a good situation

930
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 4: I think to be in. And typically the Colts have

931
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 4: kept three quarterbacks from they're active roster anyway, so they

932
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 4: got to go sign somebody.

933
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 2: And just to reiterate, you know what the NFL rules

934
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: are from a quarterback standpoint, Riley Leonard had been in

935
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 2: the third quarterback emergency role. So the only way he

936
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: could have gotten into a football game until Sunday was

937
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 2: if both Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson would have had

938
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 2: to have leave the game due to injury. So teams,

939
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: this goes back to remember the NFC Championship game where

940
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers have those quarterbacks get hurt and

941
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: they were literally running the wildcat. The NFL is like,

942
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 2: all right, enough's enough. You can dress a third quarterback.

943
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 2: You can't even play that guy as a wildcat guy.

944
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: So you can't have some like hybrid guy that comes

945
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: in here and just does short yarded stuff. He literally

946
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 2: can only get in the game due to injury. Now,

947
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 2: when the whole Richardson thing plays out on Sunday and

948
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: the chaos of pregame, the Colts don't have another quarterback

949
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: on their roster, active or practice squad. So when Richardson

950
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 2: was out, then Riley Leonard bumped right up to the backup,

951
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: so he was one play away. He was not. The

952
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: Colts did not have an emergency quarterback, which that's the

953
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: first time in the Stike and era they haven't utilized

954
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 2: that third quarterback because they didn't have anybody else healthy

955
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 2: to do that. So also the debate, and we'll see

956
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 2: how it plays out today when you do bring this

957
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 2: quarterback in. I guess if they wanted to, they could

958
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: bring him in as the third QB. But I definitely

959
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 2: with James on it, I don't view Riley Leonard as

960
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 2: a guy that you want necessarily one play away. Now,

961
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: how quickly can this new quarterback get up to speed?

962
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 2: All of that that will certainly play into it, But

963
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: by all accounts, the Colts will need a third quarterback.

964
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: It's just is that guy going to come in and

965
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: be your backup right away? Or is he going to

966
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 2: be behind Riley Leonard? Yeah.

967
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: Also text line asking what kind of possibilities there are

968
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: to trade for an edge rusher or somebody get some

969
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: pressure on the quarterback. We'll talk about that throughout the

970
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: next few minutes as well. We've got Alex Golden coming

971
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: up at eight thirty to talk about the Pacers and

972
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: what they've done in the preseason so far. They've got

973
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: one preseason game left, they start the regular season after that.

974
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: We'll tell you all about those things as we continue

975
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: next It's ninety three to five and one oh seven five.

976
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: It's not enough that we bring you Kevin Bow and

977
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: James Boyd every day. It's not enough that we have

978
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: Caleb Zuver in here when Mark Dyton is happily sleeping

979
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: in after a Bears win somewhere in Florida. It's not

980
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: enough that we do all those things. Let you hear

981
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: Josh Downs a little while ago. But we're gonna have

982
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: Alex Golden at eight thirty to talk about the Pacers

983
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: and they have coming up this season. That said, it

984
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: was their first preseason game of the year last night,

985
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: and then Zach Keifer's going to stop by one of

986
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: the one of my favorite writers over at the Athletic

987
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: going to be here at nine o'clock, saw him milling

988
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: around James in the press box at the football game

989
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: on Sunday with the Colts.

990
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I told him to stay away. Every time he comes,

991
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 3: weird things happen.

992
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: So you're blaming him for the for the crazy things.

993
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 4: Absolutely, the man. You all don't understand the backstory. I've

994
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 4: said this many times. When I joined the Colts b

995
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 4: he was my co beat writer. He told me, hey, James,

996
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 4: the team is pretty stable. Frank Reich is great, and

997
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 4: nothing really ever happens with this team is going to

998
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 4: be a nice, smooth entry to the NFL. And in

999
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two happened, and we all know that was

1000
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 4: a disaster. And I told him, you're a liar, You're

1001
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 4: a fraud. You bamboozled me. So no, I have beef

1002
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 4: with Zach Keifer forever because of this. But no, great guy.

1003
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 4: I'm glad that he was at the game Sunday. The

1004
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 4: phenomenal I think piece this morning they could post on

1005
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 4: the Athletic about Daniel Jones and some of the backstory there,

1006
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,959
Speaker 4: and really he got a chance to talk to Jason Garret,

1007
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 4: his former be offensive coordinator with the Giants, and so

1008
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 4: check that out. A lot of insight there. Zach's always

1009
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 4: all over that stuff. But good to see him, and

1010
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 4: certainly he was saying as much as I was, very weird,

1011
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 4: but good times for these Colts who are five to one.

1012
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, we've been talking a lot about

1013
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: who's been most viable player whatever. We're only six games in.

1014
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: But the more I think about it, you talk about

1015
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, he's just made everything work. He's made everything go.

1016
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: Does he do crazy things like Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen, No,

1017
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: but you know what, he's doing everything really well, Kevin,

1018
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: and he's moving the chains.

1019
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 2: James, did you come across any quarterback name in your

1020
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: research yesterday that you think Colts fans would not immediately

1021
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: tell you you're an idiot that player sucks.

1022
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 3: I think the biggest one probably Taylor Heineke.

1023
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 4: I feel like Colts fans have a healthy respect for him,

1024
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 4: especially if you remember.

1025
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: They've picked at him, but now they would be with

1026
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 2: him exactly.

1027
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 4: They remember the game that he actually won here in

1028
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 4: Lucas Oil Stadium a couple of years ago.

1029
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 2: I think he's beating the Colts twice right Atlanta in Atlanta,

1030
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: good point years ago in Washington. So the game that

1031
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: you bring.

1032
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 4: Up again, familiar with him. I do think he could

1033
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 4: be like a spot starter for you. Certainly don't want

1034
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 4: to get him the keys of the franchise by any means,

1035
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 4: but he's a good player. He's someone that that I

1036
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 4: think that they can, you know, sleep a little easier

1037
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 4: if he ends up being.

1038
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: Your back up. Yeah. So the question for me comes

1039
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 2: down to this, are you going to try and trade

1040
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 2: for a quarterback somewhere around the league that would you

1041
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 2: would think lead to a little bit more of a

1042
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 2: oh okay, I kind of like that move like that,

1043
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 2: you know, would be a little bit of a whatever.

1044
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 3: Higher Can I interest you in Russell Wilson? Well, yeah,

1045
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 3: Jameis Winston.

1046
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 4: Jamis is on a two year deal, so I don't

1047
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 4: think that really happened. But like, who would you trade for?

1048
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 2: Well, you know, again some of these guys that maybe

1049
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: don't jar and immediately like why would Kansas.

1050
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 3: City, Like I know they wouldn't give him up.

1051
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: Like you know, somebody asked me about Jimmy g in

1052
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: the text ship. It was like, well, you know, Matthew

1053
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: Stafford's back, why are the Rams going to do that?

1054
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 4: So it's funny, like you know, it's kind of hard

1055
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 4: to get a good player for cheap Well that is

1056
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 4: That's basically what I was going through yesterday, like, oh,

1057
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 4: this guy's pretty good. Wait, that would cost a little

1058
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 4: bit more than when I'm willing to give up.

1059
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 2: And I'll keep on coming back to this as well.

1060
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 2: You know, when Michael Badsley was signed last week, it's

1061
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: you know, something that boiled down to what probably Colts connections, right.

1062
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 2: I mean, Michael Badgley had kicked with Luke Rohods and

1063
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 2: Rico bertso Sanchez. Michael Badgley had been with Shane Steiken

1064
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 2: for three years and the Chargers, So you know when

1065
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 2: you say Taylor Heineke, there are some Colts connections a

1066
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: little bit. First off, Shane Stiken saw him opposite in

1067
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: the NFC East for a couple of years. I do

1068
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: think that matters. I think Shane Stiken watching film of

1069
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 2: you in a rather intricate way for a couple of

1070
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: years would matter. Also, you know, he beat the Colts twice,

1071
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: so Chris Boward obviously seen that firsthand. Couple other names

1072
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: just to throw out there, and again some of these

1073
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 2: might make you puke, but Colts connections. A guy that's

1074
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: been kind of a longer backup in Jacksonville for a

1075
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 2: while was CJ. Bethard from Iowa. Jim Bob Cooter, the

1076
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 2: Holds offensive coordinator, was in Jacksonville for a year. Bethard

1077
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 2: currently is on the Lions practice squad, so you would

1078
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 2: need to sign him off the practice squad to your

1079
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 2: active roster, which is something we see happen. The Colts

1080
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 2: did it a few weeks ago with a linebacker from Dallas,

1081
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: Easton Stick. He is part of that North Dakota State tree,

1082
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: if you will, of quarterbacks. He was actually a draft

1083
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: pick of the Chargers when Shane Steichen was with the Chargers.

1084
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 2: He's currently on Atlanta's practice squad. So, you know, again,

1085
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 2: a couple names. I don't know about. Desmond Ritter. You

1086
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 2: know he did spend a few days here. It was

1087
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: a mini camp tryout back in mid June. You know,

1088
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 2: would that I don't want to pretend like he got,

1089
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: you know, very deep into the Colts playbook when he

1090
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: was here for a few days. But clearly the Colts

1091
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: were curious about him in the summer, would they be

1092
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 2: you know curious about him again here in mid October?

1093
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: So those are just a few of the names that

1094
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 2: can wise I think you throw out there.

1095
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also people want to know with trade deadline

1096
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: coming up, and we talked about it a little bit yesterday,

1097
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: is their pass rush help out there? And I know

1098
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: everybody wants to go swing big and what's Max Crosby doing?

1099
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: But I don't know that a they could afford Max

1100
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: Crosby or if he's even available, and what that would

1101
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: even possibly take. But what are some of the realistic options?

1102
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: Is there a Bradley Chubb that might be a guy

1103
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: that's available that has shown the ability to put pressure

1104
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: on quarterbacks and could be had for less than certainly

1105
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: what a Max Crosby is, or we're talking about maybe

1106
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: just people that could help out a little bit. James,

1107
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: is that even a possibility right now?

1108
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 3: I think you certainly should entertain it.

1109
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 4: But yeah, as far as Max Crosby, No, they're not

1110
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 4: going to trade for Max Crosby.

1111
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 3: He just signed a huge extension.

1112
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 4: He costs a lot of money, and he's also been

1113
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 4: like loyal to a fault, I would say to the Raiders,

1114
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 4: who are god awful. So no, that does not seem

1115
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 4: realistic at all, even in the slightest I guess the

1116
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 4: name that and I'm not saying this is even.

1117
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 3: A real thought.

1118
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 4: But social media has ways of bringing up names, Trey

1119
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 4: Hendrickson being one of them, and him being on a

1120
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 4: one year deal with the Bengals. The Bengals stink. He's

1121
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 4: also aging, so would you make a move for him?

1122
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 4: But the thought there is that you're doing that literally

1123
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 4: just just cash in for this year because then he

1124
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 4: would become a free agent afterwards. I would not necessarily

1125
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 4: want to trade for him and give him a bunch

1126
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 4: of money because he's.

1127
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 3: An older player.

1128
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's an idea as well. But yeah, I

1129
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 4: do think the next couple weeks will kind of inform

1130
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 4: a lot when it comes to what the Colts might do.

1131
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 4: Because if you look up after the next two games

1132
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 4: and you're seven and one, do you say, hey, this

1133
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 4: is our shot to do something special this year, because

1134
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 4: then you go from being a feel good story. So

1135
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 4: wait a second, we're a pretty good team. And even

1136
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 4: if you're six and two, you know, heading into your

1137
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 4: last game before the bye week, you know, going overseas

1138
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 4: to face the Falcons, who had a pretty good game yesterday.

1139
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 4: I think that certainly is a conversation that garners more

1140
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 4: validity than I think before.

1141
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: It's honestly something where I could probably talk myself into

1142
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 2: a trade at three different positions in the defense. I

1143
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 2: could talk myself into pass rusher. Certainly I could talk

1144
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 2: myself into a linebacker upgrade and corner given the depth there.

1145
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 2: So you know, three weeks from today is a trade deadline.

1146
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: Do you do something right now? Do you sit back

1147
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: and wait? Again? Are you investing a draft pick quarterback

1148
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 2: wise at all into trying to find a backup here? James,

1149
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 2: you got this from Thomas. Thomas goes, what's wrong with

1150
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 2: Riley Leonard? It's a four week backup job? Come on?

1151
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 2: Do you think do you view it in that light

1152
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 2: like it's fine, you got Riley Leonard. You're letting it

1153
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 2: Notre Dame to the national title last year. You see

1154
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 2: him in the preseason game against Cincinnati.

1155
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 4: No, I'm not with that at all. A lot of

1156
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 4: players look great in the preseason. I mean, to be honest,

1157
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,439
Speaker 4: bringing back Jason Bean, I mean, Sam Ellener is probably

1158
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 4: a name we could throw out there as well, someone

1159
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 4: who knows Shane and it has proven to be a

1160
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 4: very professional quarterback in this league. But no, I do

1161
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 4: not think that is a smart tactic, mainly because and

1162
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 4: not to be like bogus, but when you get to

1163
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 4: the NFL, I truly do not care who did in

1164
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 4: college anymore. I mean, great, you led Notre Dame to

1165
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 4: the national championship. Will Howard won the national championship. Neither

1166
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 4: one of them are starting quarterbacks in the NFL, and

1167
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 4: no one thought that when they left college. So yeah,

1168
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 4: could he be a spot starter someday? Yes, I just

1169
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 4: think that you're putting too much on the guy fresh

1170
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 4: out of the gate.

1171
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 3: That to me is just not wise.

1172
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 4: And it's funny because we did a story yesterday on

1173
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 4: the IR injury update with Anthony Richardson, and someone on

1174
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 4: our editing staff must be a Notre Dame person or

1175
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 4: mostly a big, big ry Leonard fan, because they put

1176
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 4: in like this random paragraph about he was like preseason

1177
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 4: all acc and I.

1178
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 3: Went back and was like, who cares? Cut that out like.

1179
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, we can mention the national championship part that I

1180
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 4: think is significant, but like preseason, all acc good leader, whatever,

1181
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 4: can you play football in the NFL. He's not proven to

1182
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 4: do that. I don't think you should do like just

1183
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 4: throw it to him. If you can find someone who's

1184
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 4: at least done it relatively well or in a spot

1185
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 4: here or there, I'm gonna have some experience in that department.

1186
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 2: And I think the question becomes this, if you look

1187
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 2: at the Colts schedule upcoming here the rest of the

1188
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 2: way I was looking at it last night, I want

1189
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 2: to say, of the eleven teams you have left, eight

1190
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 2: are currently at five hundred or better. So eight of

1191
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 2: the eleven right now are a five hundred football team.

1192
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 2: More better, if you look at the three games you

1193
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: would play to teams below five hundred, two of those

1194
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 2: three are Houston, which I don't think we look at

1195
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,439
Speaker 2: Houston as like laughingstock bad right, No.

1196
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: We probably think that they're going to be at least

1197
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 1: a nine to eight team before where the season's over.

1198
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 2: Well, and again if CJ. Strout's healthy, like, it's still

1199
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 2: very competent even if they aren't necessarily their record wise

1200
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: and who knows, maybe they're now starting to find a

1201
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 2: little bit of their groove. They had to buy this

1202
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: past week. So the schedule is undoubtedly getting tougher. And

1203
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 2: you know, do you view it as Hey, if Daniel

1204
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 2: Jones were to be lost for three to four weeks,

1205
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 2: does a quarterback move Let's let's call it four weeks?

1206
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 2: If Riley Lenard's going to go one and three, does

1207
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 2: the backup quarterback the other guy? Could that guy go too?

1208
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 2: And two? And is that the difference between winning the

1209
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 2: AFC South and not? I mean, I know we're kind

1210
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: of getting into the weeds a little bit here, but

1211
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 2: I think that's how you have to view it of

1212
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 2: is that player going to is one game going to

1213
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 2: be the difference? And when Jacksonville's sitting there one game

1214
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 2: behind you right now in the division, you still have

1215
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 2: two more games with them down the stretch. I think

1216
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 2: these are all conversations that the Colts have to have

1217
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 2: inside of their building today and we'll see how it

1218
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 2: exactly plays out.

1219
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: One last one for you, Wes Texas in at two, three, nine,

1220
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: ten seventy on the fan text line says Sam hell

1221
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: Is Sam Howell is Philadelphia quarterback three, Maybe he's cheap.

1222
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: Is that a guy you'd look at?

1223
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 4: They always trade, so perhaps that is somebody to think about.

1224
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 4: I think what Tamer m Key's all over there as well.

1225
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 4: So yeah, it just comes down how do you want

1226
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 4: to pursue it. Do you want to be very cheap

1227
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 4: and say, hey, just get me somebody that I don't

1228
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 4: have to spend too much money on who's a free agent,

1229
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 4: or I could pick up off of a practice squad.

1230
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 4: Or do I want to invest a little bit more

1231
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 4: there to be a little more sure of myself in

1232
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 4: case anything happens to Daniel Jones, which, Lord have mercy,

1233
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 4: let's not even speak those words, right.

1234
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And for the people that are texting in and

1235
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: talking about that, we really need to spend all this

1236
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: time and energy thinking about a backup quarterback for a

1237
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: team that's five and one, Yes, because what happens if

1238
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: Daniel Zones even has to miss a half or a

1239
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: game and a half or something like that. Every win

1240
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: is going to count for a team that all of

1241
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: a sudden has designs on doing something special this year.

1242
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 2: Kevin, We'll see too if the Colts bring that player

1243
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 2: right away out of the fifty three minut oster Richardson

1244
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 2: News yesterday to IR they brought in a undrafted I

1245
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 2: think corner safety from the sounds of it, Ruben Lowry,

1246
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 2: who played in Baltimore this year. Undersized but super smart dude,

1247
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 2: and we'll see exactly how he fits. So clearly they're

1248
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: trying to churn even more corner They continue to work

1249
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 2: out corners. They continue to work out veteran corners. But

1250
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 2: that was the roster move yesterday. For those that did

1251
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 2: see Richardson dadd reserve. The Colts filled it, but not

1252
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 2: with a quarterback with a kind of a corner safety.

1253
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: So again that will play out today exactly what they

1254
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 2: do at quarterback. They could just go practice squad and

1255
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,240
Speaker 2: you know, bump that guy up a couple of weeks

1256
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,959
Speaker 2: and then you know, kick the can down the road

1257
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 2: for a bigger decision there.

1258
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you tall, you undersize it. What was he like

1259
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: five nine two four or something?

1260
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to see Tennessee Chattanooga comes to mind

1261
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 2: of where he played collegiately, put up some big time numbers.

1262
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 2: Mechanical engineering degree ro OTC. I mean, sounds like a

1263
00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 2: really smart individual but undersized and was playing but played

1264
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 2: a ton of stamps for Baltimore few weeks ago. Obviously

1265
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 2: Baltimore really banged up. So any move at corner safety

1266
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 2: right now, particularly corner right now, I don't gloss over

1267
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 2: because they need corners. So who knows if this guy

1268
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 2: could get up to speed as quickly as Sunday.

1269
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: Maybe you just hope you keep bringing people in. Somebody's

1270
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: gonna stick and it's gonna work out. Because, like we said,

1271
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: love Jacoby Brissette, but man, he looked awfully good against

1272
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: the cult secondary this past week. And I don't know

1273
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: how much that was just Jacoby on a day and

1274
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: how much of it was just there needs to be

1275
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: some work done in that secondary.

1276
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 4: Jeff is saying, Jacoby, you should have just kept your

1277
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 4: bags here. Okay, let's just make the tray for him,

1278
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 4: and everyone's feeling great.

1279
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: I'd be happy with Jacobe is the backup quarterback, I know.

1280
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 3: But again, like I said, and then it costs a

1281
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 3: lot of things, you know, to go get him.

1282
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think the options have to be a

1283
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 4: little bit, you know, lower, The experctise had to be

1284
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 4: a little bit lower on who they bring in.

1285
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So that's what's happening with the cults.

1286
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: The Pacers played last night. Let's give you all the

1287
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: details on everything else you need to know. We call

1288
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: it the morning Check James. So the culture off today

1289
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 1: and we'll just keep it on whether or not they

1290
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: bring quarterbacks in or take a look at that market today.

1291
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, that is certainly the big news after Anthony

1292
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 4: Richardson went on IR yesterday due to an orbital fracture

1293
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 4: he sustained due to a stretching injury he had in

1294
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 4: the locker room before the game Sunday.

1295
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 3: And just to clarify, it wasn't the band.

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Speaker 4: He had the band attached to something in the locker

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00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 4: room and that something broke and it recoiled to hit

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00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 4: him in the face.

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00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 3: And so for people who are like, ha ha, how

1300
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 3: did that happen?

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00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 4: Like, man, imagine someone just throwing a baseball full speed

1302
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 4: at your face Like that is essentially how it happened.

1303
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 3: Very fluke thing, very unfortunate for him.

1304
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 4: But just to clarify there for people who are who

1305
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 4: thinks it's just like you know, this guy's mid a

1306
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 4: class Like na, man, you get hitting the face that hard,

1307
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 4: anybody's face is gonna break.

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Speaker 1: We'll get more information on a bunch of things later

1309
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: on this week. Kevin, how close were we to get

1310
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: in Kenny Moore the second back last week?

1311
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 2: He was doing some field work when we were out there, James,

1312
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 2: I think it was Friday. He was doing some lateral

1313
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 2: field work. But still he is yet to practice and

1314
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 2: it's now three straight weeks, nine practices total, three games.

1315
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 2: I would you know it is three days enough of practice?

1316
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 2: Is this an injury that was more severe to where

1317
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 2: you'd want multiple weeks? If you go just basically based

1318
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 2: off of they didn't put him on injury reserve, then

1319
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 2: Sunday he should be back. That would be his fourth

1320
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 2: game that you know he would miss. So it's a

1321
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 2: big one because you know, I think you're facing a

1322
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 2: Chargers team that has some definite injury issues, but they

1323
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 2: could be getting a little healthier at wide out and

1324
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 2: we know what Justin Herbert can do, so obviously that'll

1325
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 2: be a big one to watch this week. And by

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00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 2: all accounts, the Colts didn't have anybody get hurt in

1327
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: the game. We'll see how that plays out tomorrow practice, but.

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00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: It was before the game or pre game. Yeah, everybody's

1329
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: gonna start wearing bubble wrap and all their helmets during

1330
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: all the pregame routines. Now two games on Monday Night Football.

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Speaker 1: Last night, Atlanta Falcons beat the Buffalo Bills twenty four

1332
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: to fourteen. Bshon Robinson ran wild one hundred and seventy

1333
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: yards and eighty one yard touchdowns. Camper six catches sixty

1334
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: eight yards. Josh Allen struggled a little bit, just one

1335
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty yards and two touchdowns, but also two interceptions,

1336
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: and they just couldn't get it going against the Falcons,

1337
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: who have improved to three and two right now, and

1338
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: after the game, James Michael Pennix said, this team's legit.

1339
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: Don't go to sleep on the Falcons quite yet. We

1340
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: start paying attention to them in the NFC South.

1341
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 3: I feel like they're always right there.

1342
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 4: That division kind of stanks year in and year out,

1343
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 4: so they always have a chance to kind of be

1344
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 4: in the mix. And so yeah, going from being losing

1345
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 4: thirty to nothing to the Panthers to what they did

1346
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 4: last night, it certainly feels the ViBe's a lot different

1347
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 4: in Atlanta right now.

1348
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: Jake Mudy hit a thirty eight yard game winning field

1349
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: goal as time expired and the Bears win in Washington

1350
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: twenty five to twenty four. Mark Dyketon happy doing his

1351
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: happy dance somewhere. But a nice revenge game for the Bears,

1352
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: who gave up that crazy play in the loss to

1353
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: the Commanders a year ago. Kevin, people remember that one.

1354
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Mark Dyketon, I guess I heard that he

1355
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 2: got another week of vacation once that field goal went

1356
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 2: in last night. So Caleb will need you for another

1357
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 2: week here, Jeff, Jeff just off on five more days

1358
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 2: for Mark Dydon to go to Disney World.

1359
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Speaker 1: It's no problem with me. Yeah, you work here for

1360
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: a long time, you just start racking apparently, Marcus two

1361
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: hundred and fourteen pto days. I don't know. I don't

1362
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: even know how that works.

1363
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 2: Let's have the right last name with some people in

1364
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 2: this building.

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01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,439
Speaker 1: That's it, all right. The Indiana Pacers at home last

1366
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: night at the field House. They lose to the Spurs

1367
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: one twenty four to one oh eight, a meaningless preseason

1368
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: game except for the fact that Benedict Matherin we already

1369
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: know can score in bunches. James went off for twenty

1370
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: seven in the first half, thirty one for the game.

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01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: They did lose, but that's man. If Benedict Matherin can

1372
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: become instant scoring on a consistent basis, pretty interesting things

1373
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: happening for the Pacers.

1374
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say that he can. He's been proving

1375
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 4: himself as a scorer since he got in the NBA.

1376
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 4: He can score the best of them. It's just the

1377
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 4: other things.

1378
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 3: I know.

1379
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 4: Listening to the halftime show, Yeah, on Fantom Sports Network,

1380
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 4: Rick Carlo'll talked a lot about how they believe he's

1381
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 4: gonna have to draw some of the bigger defensive assignments

1382
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 4: this year, especially on the wing, considering that you don't

1383
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 4: want to put a lot of that on Andrew Nemhardt

1384
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 4: as a lead guard. So I'm curious to see how

1385
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 4: Benedict embraces that part of his game because he has

1386
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 4: the physical tools to do it. But yeah, I think

1387
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 4: the bread and butter at the end of the day

1388
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 4: will always be him scoring the basketball. Does that in

1389
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 4: his sleep, and you know, if he scores at that rate,

1390
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 4: he'll be looking at a nice extension at some point,

1391
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 4: I would imagine.

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Speaker 1: You know, James, I saw that clip with Rick Carlisle

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01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: at half time last night too. I thought it was

1394
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: very interesting in the middle of that, when he was

1395
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: talking about the defense that Maverin's gonna have to play,

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01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: he said early in games, which made me believe that

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01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: you give him a lot of that defensive work early

1398
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 1: in the game, but when it comes crunch time, maybe

1399
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, now you switch back to your

1400
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: defensive lockdown with them heart something like that. Maybe we'll

1401
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: see certainly something to keep an eye on.

1402
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 4: But yeah, like you pointed out earlier in the show,

1403
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 4: the centers were bad, and I'm looking at a stats

1404
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 4: like the little what is it the play by play

1405
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 4: tracker from the third quarter yesterday. Here is what Isaiah

1406
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 4: Jackson did in a matter of three seconds, personal foul,

1407
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 4: personal foul, personal foul, pacers call time out.

1408
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: The four centers, is say Jackson, Jay Huff, Tony Bradley,

1409
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: James Wiseman, collective ten last night? No, none of that's

1410
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: good Man had.

1411
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 3: Three fouls, none of literally three seconds.

1412
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 2: Like that's thirty seven preseason minutes for Isaiah Jackson, nine fouls.

1413
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 2: And I don't think Jay Huffs could much better in

1414
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 2: terms of defending without fouling.

1415
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 4: So I knew they were taking a step back without

1416
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 4: Miles And this is just kind of, you know, reaffirst

1417
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 4: that a little bit early.

1418
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 3: It's early for them as well, but like.

1419
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 2: They should reach Smith's behind the bench last night, I

1420
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 2: thought anything anything left in the tank?

1421
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: Yeah for the.

1422
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 2: Six minutes, six minutes, he ain't even got that. I'll

1423
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 2: just take defending without falling. I'm not asking for a

1424
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 2: hook shot.

1425
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: Pacers will finish up their preseason schedule Friday night in

1426
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: San Antonio, and then they get ready to once again

1427
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: play the Oklahoma City Thunder, who they just played like

1428
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 1: every other game, now, don't they there you go, yeah,

1429
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: all right, So Major League Baseball last night the American

1430
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: League National League Championship Series both took place Game two

1431
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: of the ALCS. The Mariners got the hitting clubs at

1432
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 1: club the Toronto Blue Jays ten to three. Julio Rodriguez

1433
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: Jorge Polanco each had three run home runs. Josh Naylor

1434
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: hit a two run shot, and they get the win

1435
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: there to take a two games to none of the

1436
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: Brewers two to one, and Blake Snell eight innings, no runs,

1437
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: one hit, no walks, ten strikeouts. I think that's pretty

1438
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: good right there, James, especially in that spot, not bad.

1439
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 3: A lot of pressure in those spots and he showed up.

1440
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and later on tonight, Game two of the National

1441
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: League Championship Series starts at eight oh eight. The ALCS

1442
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: is off as they traveled back to Seattle to Mariners

1443
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: with the two games to none lead. High school rankings

1444
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: are out this week from the USA today. Not much

1445
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: change amongst the top teams in six A. It's still

1446
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 1: Brownsburg number one, New Palace number one in five A,

1447
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: Bishops Chatard number one in four A. Top ranked teams

1448
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: in three A, two A and one A are Evansville Memorial,

1449
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: Adam Central, and Springs Valley, respectively. So anything else you

1450
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: guys want to throw in. I know there was a

1451
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: firing yesterday James in the National Football.

1452
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 2: Well, Larry Birds, Springs Valley.

1453
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 4: I would not know, honestly shout out, But as far

1454
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 4: as the firing goes, yeah, Brian Callahan is out for

1455
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 4: the Titans and Kevin I'm not surprised by the move

1456
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 4: at all, Honestly, when you lose.

1457
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 3: Why the hell that.

1458
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: It felt like a power struggle at the top, Like joke.

1459
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 4: They are and they're setting themselves up to be in

1460
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 4: this position again in a couple of years.

1461
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1462
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 4: How cam Ward develops now and we'll see, but I

1463
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 4: think maybe the the straw that broke the Cammel's back.

1464
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 4: And I'm not in Tennessee, but hearing Callahan's comments last

1465
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 4: week about you know, hey, everyone's got to get better.

1466
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 4: We want to see some progress, and he'd like pointed

1467
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 4: out cam Ward and was like he needs to get

1468
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 4: better news, I'm like, man, you don't want to start

1469
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 4: coming at your first round pick, you number one pick.

1470
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 3: I mean, you're the guy whos supposed to be developing him.

1471
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 3: So now he's out.

1472
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 2: Of a job. And by all accounts, Brian Callahan was

1473
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 2: pretty deep as a finalist here in Indy, which you know,

1474
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 2: is kind of great to see. How obviously all that's

1475
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 2: played out. Purdue number one in the preseason poll for

1476
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 2: college basketball. First place votes go to Matt Painters. Bunch

1477
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 2: Houston second with sixteen first place votes, Florida eight, Yukon two.

1478
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 2: There's your top four there. Matt Painters already said, feels

1479
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 2: like the depth, that's what's a little different about this

1480
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 2: Purdue team and why he feels like this is indeed

1481
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 2: the best national title contending team he has had of

1482
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 2: they could withstand something that, you know, maybe prior years

1483
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 2: they had a little bit of a smaller margin for air.

1484
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 2: Other Big Ten teams Michigan seven, UCLA twelve, Illinois seventeen,

1485
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 2: Michigan State twenty two, the Badgers at twenty four. Indiana

1486
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 2: got oon vote, and if you add all that up,

1487
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 2: that would be the forty third place team in the nation,

1488
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 2: the Hoosiers with Darren Devriez.

1489
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm still not used to I know it's been a

1490
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: while now, I'm still not used to UCLA USC Oregon

1491
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,959
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten. I'm just not there yet.

1492
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm used to being the big

1493
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 2: tim It's.

1494
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: It's been a minute night. You're right, I'm so used

1495
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 1: to the Chargers being in la bout saying.

1496
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 3: It's been a while for both of those things.

1497
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 1: Guys, Uh, Kevin Irons slow to come around on some things, James,

1498
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 1: That's all it is.

1499
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 3: Get with the Times.

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01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 1: The Times will feature Alex Golden, who setting the pace

1501
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 1: as one of the leading podcasters when it comes to

1502
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: the Indiana Pacers and kind enough to join us with

1503
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 1: his unique perspective coming up in a moment here. We'll

1504
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: also have the Pacers playback for you, debuting is we

1505
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: continue on on a Tuesday morning. It's ninety three five

1506
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 1: and one oh seven five. The fan.

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Speaker 8: Pacers have two seconds to get a shot and Mathering

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Speaker 8: concludes a brilliant first half with a three from out

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Speaker 8: near the left hash mark.

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01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: He made every shut in this head. Believe the way

1511
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: for the Pacers with thirty one points. Time for our

1512
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,800
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1514
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: Water James, he was terrific last night, thirty one points

1515
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,919
Speaker 1: in all, slowed down in the second half, didn't play

1516
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: a ton there, but he could not miss in the

1517
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 1: first quarter of last night's basketball game.

1518
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,919
Speaker 3: Hey is what he does, man bucket getter, special guy.

1519
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was, and so we'll keep an eye on

1520
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: him as the preseason rolls on. The Spurs did win

1521
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: one twenty four to one oh eight. And here to

1522
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 1: tell us more about that, one of our favorite guests

1523
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: joining us on the Payloss Slickers hotline. That, of course

1524
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 1: would be the one the only Alex Golden. Good morning, Alex,

1525
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 1: how was your preseason extravaganza last night?

1526
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 8: It was a little bit more entertaining than I would

1527
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 8: say Saturday night's still it against the Thunder or I

1528
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 8: should say the Okase Blue since they didn't bring ten

1529
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 8: other guys. But yeah, it was It was good to

1530
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 8: see some of the starters play more more minutes, and

1531
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 8: we saw one miniata Eve been playing in the fourth quarter,

1532
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 8: so a little bit more of a competitive game to

1533
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,919
Speaker 8: kind of get a better evaluation of what this team

1534
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 8: looks like.

1535
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 2: Alex, what the hell do you do at center? It's

1536
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 2: been fouling and fouling and fouling and not scoring or rebounding.

1537
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 8: It's not been good, Kevin, I'll tell you that. And

1538
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 8: I think Facer fans, while they are not happy that

1539
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 8: Miles Turner left for Milwaukee and feel like things could

1540
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 8: be better without him, I think they might be wishing

1541
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 8: Miles Turner was still in this crosstart. I mean, you

1542
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 8: got to give a little bit of you know, context

1543
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 8: here with just Wiseman and Jackson coming back from injuries.

1544
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 8: Jay Huffs really has not been a part of this

1545
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 8: system at all, and when he played with the starters

1546
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 8: last night, ran into Siakam at one point, just didn't

1547
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 8: really know what to do. Him and Matthurn we're having

1548
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 8: conversations and where he's supposed to be at. So I

1549
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,679
Speaker 8: think it's all just a learning curve. It's still really early,

1550
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 8: so don't want to write them off completely yet, but

1551
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 8: I think this is a big year for the Pacers

1552
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 8: to see if they have anything at center with this.

1553
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 8: I would first three games as a player that's probably

1554
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 8: looked the most consistent is the guy that's probably gonna

1555
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 8: get cut, and that's Tony Bradley. So I just I

1556
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 8: have not been impressed, and the fouling has been an

1557
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 8: issue for me, and just the floor space and that

1558
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 8: they're used to with Turner. They don't have that anymore.

1559
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 8: Jay huff O four from three in the preseason so far.

1560
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 8: So yeah, it's it's not been great, but I think

1561
01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 8: they just have to give it some time, give it

1562
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 8: some sure, maybe something'll play out. Right now, I am

1563
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 8: not overly impressed.

1564
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 2: If they played a real game tomorrow. By the way,

1565
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 2: Alex Golden setting the pace a great listen for Pacers

1566
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 2: fans out there his podcast. He's with us here on

1567
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 2: the Payloft Sickars top line, if they played a real

1568
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 2: game tomorrow, would their best lineup be Obi topping at

1569
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 2: the five? Kind of small ball like we saw a

1570
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 2: little bit in the playoffs.

1571
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I mean they did that a little bit

1572
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 8: last night too. The Spurs were playing some zone and

1573
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 8: they went to Obi Top and at the five and

1574
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 8: the pacers. I think we're like a plus two and

1575
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 8: like three and a half minutes of that group together.

1576
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 8: So we might get to some point in the season

1577
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 8: where it's just like, you know what, start Obi Top

1578
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 8: and I mean, if they're really trying to win games

1579
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 8: and things like that, it's going to make a huge difference.

1580
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 8: But one thing to me that really plays a huge

1581
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 8: factor in just the centers and how they will all

1582
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 8: be utilized is not having TJ McConnell. Right now, TJ

1583
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 8: mcconnald does so much for that center position with his

1584
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 8: ability to get into the paint and push pace. So

1585
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 8: I think as you have a new point guarding camera

1586
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 8: Pagne trying to learn things a little bit, it is

1587
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 8: kind of like stagnating the offense and what they're trying

1588
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 8: to do. So yeah, I just think not having the

1589
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 8: is going to be a huge impact for a lot

1590
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 8: of what this team does. But overall, I just yeah,

1591
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,719
Speaker 8: they they I think Obi Topping is clearly the best

1592
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 8: you know starting center at this point on the roster, Alex, what.

1593
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 4: Has been your impression of Jeris Walker so far throughout

1594
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 4: the preseason?

1595
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 3: And I know kind of up and down last night.

1596
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 3: Five turnover is not great.

1597
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 4: But if we're looking at steps, you want to see

1598
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 4: the Pacers take on't imagine he's a big part of that.

1599
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, for sure. I think we've seen more good stuff

1600
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 8: from jarifs and bad stuff throughout the preseason. I wasn't

1601
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 8: overly impressed with his first game against Minnesota. I thought

1602
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 8: he had a nice shooting game against Minnesota, and then

1603
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 8: if you look at his performance against OKC, I thought

1604
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 8: that was probably one of his better ones, almost at

1605
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 8: a triple double in that game. And then last night

1606
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 8: he had a really really strong third quarter, and then

1607
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 8: in the fourth quarter they threw him out there with

1608
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 8: a random group and had him playing some point guard

1609
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 8: at one point. So for me when it comes to

1610
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 8: Jaris Walker, I just want to see him play with

1611
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 8: a consistent level of force and not take plays off.

1612
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 8: We've seen some bad passes, we seeing them not getting

1613
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 8: back on defense and things like that. But if he

1614
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 8: can just play the right way, play good defense, fit

1615
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 8: into the system, take the open shots when they're there,

1616
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 8: it's gonna be great. He had to move on Saturday

1617
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 8: against ok See that looked very Pascal Siakam esque in

1618
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 8: the second quarter. And if he can do more things

1619
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 8: like that quick decisions when he gets to basketball, like

1620
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go to the basket, I'm gonna score versus

1621
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:22,799
Speaker 8: let me wait and think about this for a second.

1622
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 8: I think that's going to help him as well.

1623
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 2: Alex.

1624
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 1: Just before you came on, we were talking about some

1625
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 1: things that Rick Carlisle said during the halftime of last

1626
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 1: night's broadcast regarding Benedict Matherin and what his role might

1627
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 1: be and what the guard position is going to look

1628
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 1: like without Tyrese Hollim Burton, and the fact that that

1629
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 1: maybe Matherin takes on a few more defensive responsibilities, certainly

1630
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,640
Speaker 1: at the beginning of a game, and in addition to

1631
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: some of the scoring. What his role looks like coming

1632
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 1: into this season.

1633
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, they're gonna be They're gonna need a lot of

1634
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 8: Matherin and a lot of good Materron for this team

1635
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 8: to have any success because Matherin obviously at the two guard.

1636
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 8: Right now, you're so thin that Taylan Peter. A guy

1637
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 8: on a two way contracts your backup, So they just

1638
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 8: really need him to step up and do a little

1639
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 8: bit more. We know he can do a lot of stuff.

1640
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 8: Offensive I don't think that's ever going to be a

1641
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 8: problem for him. But defensively, I think that they're getting

1642
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 8: him some reps. If you look at the first game

1643
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 8: against Minnesota, he was guarding Anthony Edwards. Is the second

1644
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 8: game against the Thunder, he was guarding Case and Wallace.

1645
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 8: So they're having him guard some of the better guards

1646
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 8: out there just to try and see what he can do.

1647
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 8: And I think he's a better on ball defender than

1648
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 8: he is an off ball defender, because he gets lost

1649
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 8: a little bit playing off ball, but on ball he's

1650
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 8: a little bit more locked in and engaged. He just

1651
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 8: has to learn how to navigate those screens and fight

1652
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 8: through that. But I think he's gotten better. And then offensively,

1653
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 8: one thing that maybe doesn't stick out in terms of

1654
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 8: like stats or anything like that, but one thing I've

1655
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 8: noticed is his passing has looked better. One of the

1656
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 8: first players against the Thunder on Saturday, he's through a

1657
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 8: great bounce pass lead pass to Isaiah Jackson as a

1658
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 8: ball was swinging around and Jimmy boost six teams up

1659
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 8: off the bench starts clapping because it was a great pass,

1660
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 8: and so they want to see him do.

1661
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: More of that.

1662
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 8: We know he can score the basketball last night eleven

1663
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 8: to twelve for thirty one points, like unbelievable twenty three

1664
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 8: minutes of play, So.

1665
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 2: We know we can do that.

1666
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,799
Speaker 8: But just those quick reads and then playing better defense.

1667
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 8: I think that's gonna be his role, and I think

1668
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 8: he's gonna play probably close to thirty thirty two minutes tonight.

1669
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 4: Alex Is Pascal Siakam like Steph Curry now because he's

1670
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 4: just knocking down threes that are extremely high rate.

1671
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 3: Shot it at thirty eight percent last year, career high.

1672
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 4: But what do you say from him to, you know,

1673
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 4: take the reins more offensively now Tyrey's Taliburton is not

1674
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 4: going to play this year.

1675
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:26,639
Speaker 8: Yeah, we just got to see more of a heavy

1676
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 8: dose of Fiakam than we've seen in the last two seasons.

1677
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 8: I feel like last year, a lot of times we

1678
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 8: would see in the regular season Pascal have a really

1679
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 8: strong half, be in the first or second half, but

1680
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 8: it was never like the entirety of the game. And

1681
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 8: I think we have to do the Pacers have to

1682
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 8: do about getting him more involved throughout the entirety of

1683
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 8: the game where they can really just forsweat him to basketball.

1684
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 8: I mean, not overly do it, right. They still going

1685
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 8: to play it in their system. But like you said,

1686
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 8: he's shot the ball incredibly well since coming here. He's

1687
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 8: really worked on a shot and I feel like he's

1688
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 8: gonna make it more than he's gonna miss it when

1689
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 8: when he pulls it. And then just his ability to

1690
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 8: use the footwork. There was a great play last night

1691
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 8: early in the game when he had Victor Wiminiama on

1692
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 8: him and seven foot five freak, and you know he

1693
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 8: uses his footwork to create enough space and get a

1694
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 8: jump over him. That's how special of a talent Pascal

1695
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 8: Siakami is. So he's gonna have to take the reins,

1696
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,600
Speaker 8: and I mean he might need to score close to

1697
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 8: twenty five points a night for this team to really

1698
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 8: consider themselves the playoff team.

1699
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 4: Alex, after he made that shot a fotog, make sure

1700
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 4: you send that to me right away immediately, because I mean,

1701
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 4: you see how the other weird plays that happened throughout

1702
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 4: that game, Like how about the the putback from Wimby

1703
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 4: in the paint on Jay Huff where he barely jumped.

1704
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 3: What what are we doing? Well, yeah, I'm not gonna lie.

1705
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 8: He walked by me three times last night back by

1706
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 8: the media area, and I literally was just shocked. I

1707
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 8: couldn't I couldn't believe what I was seeing. And I

1708
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 8: actually tried to take a picture of him as I

1709
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 8: was like walking into the media room. We were coming

1710
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 8: off the elevators, he was coming down the hallway. I

1711
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 8: tried to take a picture of him and be sneaky

1712
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 8: about it. He caught me and smiled at me. So

1713
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 8: it's pretty embarrassing. It's just like, this guy is such

1714
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 8: a freak. It's crazy, like that foot back duck, like

1715
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 8: you're mentioning. I don't even think he jumped, so he didn't.

1716
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 8: He's like playing on a little Tykes basketball goal and

1717
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 8: everybody else's yeah.

1718
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 4: Guys, this is you and your son, this is this

1719
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 4: You're showing him how to do things, And I'm like,

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Speaker 4: this is a grown man out here just sunning the pacers.

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01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 4: So I still have my Whimby to Indie shirts somewhere

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01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 4: in the basement. Uh, you know, I'm still still pushing

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01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 4: for that. You know, in an alternate reality.

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Speaker 8: I think that would have been a second favorite team

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01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 8: to go to. I mean, he likes the Pacers, so

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01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 8: it was I think the Pacers were one lottery ball

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01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 8: away from getting number one overall picking.

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Speaker 6: That year's draft.

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Speaker 8: So just a little bit more heartbreak for Pacer fans.

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01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,719
Speaker 8: But yeah, Rick Carlisle, I thought he was just hilarious

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01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 8: talking about him. Said, you're just watching disbelief. That's the

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01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,720
Speaker 8: scouting report, and he said, I'm glad he's in the.

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Speaker 1: West Man oh Man twice a year is all. But

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Speaker 1: they will see him Friday night in their final preseason game.

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Speaker 1: That'll be in San Antonio. Alex, thanks for spending time

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01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 1: with us this morning. As always, we appreciate you.

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Speaker 8: Yeah any time, guys, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: You guys can do Alex on setting the pace where

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01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 1: you can find that, where you can get podcasts, certainly

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01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 1: on Spotify as where I usually go to get it

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01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 1: as well. That's a look at the Pacers losing last

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01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 1: night one twenty four, one oh eight to the San

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01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 1: Antonio Spurs. Again. Benedict Matherin had thirty one points Andrew

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01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 1: Nemhard was eleven points. Eight assists and a big zero

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Speaker 1: for the four setters Jackson Huff, Bradley Wiseman, O frit

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Speaker 1: and a lot of fouls to especially when PACER's playback

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Speaker 1: presented by CNJ Water, the official water treatment partner of

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Speaker 1: the Indiana Pacers cnjwater dot Com. All right, you get

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Speaker 1: your voice on. We'll check the fan text line in

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Speaker 1: a moment at two three nine tens two three eight

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Speaker 1: ten seventy, and then we'll also talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: more about the cults. Was that three nine seventy? What

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Speaker 1: did I say? Two three eight? Yeah, I'm nine to

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Speaker 1: Once we get past dight thirty keven, you got to

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01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 1: carry me, so that's working these days. We'll do that

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Speaker 1: next at ninety three five and one oh seven five.

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Speaker 1: The Fan got a good chumping going this morning. Welcome

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Speaker 1: into the Fan Morning Show. If you're just joining us,

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01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: thank you so much. However you might be listening ninety

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Speaker 1: three five one oh seven five the Fan on FM.

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01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 1: Also again Blowtorch on the FM ninety three point one

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Speaker 1: HD two. If you have the HD on your radio

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Speaker 1: and most newer cars do, just one click to the

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01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: right of ninety three point one on it you can

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01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 1: get that signal just about anywhere. You can find us

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01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: at one one o seven five Thefan dot com, you

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01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 1: can download the app. There's just all different kinds of

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01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 1: ways you can even say. And Kevin likes to mess

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01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 1: with you guys out there. Alexa play one oh seven

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Speaker 1: five the Fan and you'll get that. Alexa play knuck.

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01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:34,839
Speaker 2: If you buck, you.

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01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,759
Speaker 1: Just upset a lot of people trying to quietly listen

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01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 1: to us in their cubicle at work. Kevin, I like it,

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01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 1: did you.

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Speaker 2: Guys catch were you watching the start of Indiana organ Like,

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01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 2: did you catch like them introing into the game. Yeah,

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01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 2: I loved the CBS intro They did like you know,

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01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 2: overshot of ims and then they did heywood Field, which

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01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,759
Speaker 2: you know, I think people for the most part sports

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01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 2: fans realize that Eugene is kind of the the track

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01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 2: capital of the United States. If you a lot of

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01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 2: US Olympic trials there, a lot of US championships are

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01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 2: there from a track and field.

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Speaker 3: So learned a lot about this from Larra Overton.

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Speaker 2: Yes, like second home out there. Yeah, with everything she's

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01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 2: done from a track and field standpoint, So uh, it

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01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 2: was a really cool like you know, speed speed, speed

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01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 2: all of this, and as soon as CBS hits that

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Speaker 2: college football intro, oh my gosh, I'm ready through a

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01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 2: brick wall that is of all the intros. And again

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01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 2: I'm a Master's theme song guy that can kind of

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01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:35,839
Speaker 2: put you to sleep. But you know it's great. Obviously,

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01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 2: the March Madness intro. I think the CBS college football

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01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:42,759
Speaker 2: intro is the best sports intro out there, and even

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01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 2: better than NBA on NBC, which now we get it

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Speaker 2: back starting a year.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I have a tie for first. I love the

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01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 1: CBS College football does give me goosebumps every time. I'm

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01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 1: still a sucker for the ESPN National Hockey League. You

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Speaker 1: do that during the Stanley Cup playoffs and I'm my

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01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 1: my vertical leap increases by about two hundred percent, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean literally, as soon as they played that on Saturday,

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01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 2: I said out loud, send me to Heaven. I was good.

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01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 2: I didn't need to watch the game.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

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01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 4: Those IU fans are certainly in heaven out there in

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01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 4: Oregon watching that game. I can only imagine the flight back.

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Speaker 1: What a time. Kevin, we love you. This is for you.

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Speaker 1: Get to go, You get to go. Come on, I

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01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 1: mean I loved it.

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Speaker 3: I loved it.

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01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 1: Oh man man, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Caleb injected into my vein Aiden Fisher. I saw a

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Speaker 2: big ten defensive player of the week, very well deserved,

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01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 2: very deserving.

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Speaker 1: It should be the Universe Defensive Player of the Week

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01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 1: at some point today.

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Speaker 2: Caleb that audio, that Aiden Fisher audio. Maybe we don't

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01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 2: need to play it now. I know we got Zach

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01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 2: Keith for coming up in a few but I thought

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01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 2: he had a quote post game they just kind of

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Speaker 2: really stood out about you. Again, He's a JMU guy

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Speaker 2: about Signetti and what needed to change with the IU

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01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 2: program and all of that. And I think it's one

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01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 2: thing for your head coach to walk in there and

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Speaker 2: say it all. But I think when you have players

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Speaker 2: that are good that also carry that same message, I

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Speaker 2: think that resonates probably more across one hundred person locker room.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think Aiden should have win in there him like

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01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 3: he wasn't gonna win without me. So be glad that

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Speaker 3: I'm here is too, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know where Adan Fisher and Elijah Surratt

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01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 2: will be drafted, but those two dudes should play in

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01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 2: the NFL for a long time, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, I saw kurtzik Nutty talking to Danny Knell on

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01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 1: CBS Believe It or Not at CBS dot Com about

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01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 1: how he recruits players, and he said, I've never really

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01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 1: been one. I don't care about stars. I just it

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01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:43,679
Speaker 1: does not my thing. I look at kids and I say,

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01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:45,759
Speaker 1: can I is that a kid that I can develop?

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01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,639
Speaker 1: Does he have traits that I like that? I think, oh, man,

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01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:51,720
Speaker 1: I can see that kid in two years. He is

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01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 1: going to be something. He goes. Sometimes they're four and

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01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 1: five star recruits. Sometimes they're no stars. But I just

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01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 1: I have an idea what it is that I'm looking

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01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 1: for and who I can develop.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, though, when it comes to developing,

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01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:04,839
Speaker 3: you still want to develop some stars.

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Speaker 4: You want to have that on the resume for sure.

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01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 4: So I agree with his overall sentiment. But with the

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01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 4: way I you was rolling, it probably won't even be

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01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 4: as hard to pitch them or sell them on. Getting

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01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 4: some of those bigger name players to stay home and

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01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 4: look at the talent that we have here in Indiana.

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01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 4: There's always somebody from somewhere on some team from the

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01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 4: state of Indiana. But if you can keep more of

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01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 4: those guys in your pipeline. I think that will help

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01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 4: you continue this resurgence that we've seen to the point

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01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 4: where we're not looking at it as a resurgenist and

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01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:33,879
Speaker 4: more so just as a standard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's check the text line down of the fan

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Speaker 1: text line two three, nine, ten seventy. Kevin, there you go,

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, and a lot of this this morning, Zach.

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01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you speak for a ton of Texters today.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, guys. Why not call up Gilmore to help

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01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:50,480
Speaker 1: the secondary Ken't you said that's something you could get behind.

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01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 2: Not artists, Gilmore, not Gus Gilmore, that great golfer, that

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01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 2: would be Stefan I assume. Yeah, he's still out there,

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01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 2: right thirty? Is he thirty five?

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01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 1: We've already taken a swing on a couple of older guys.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean they continue. They worked out Levi Wallace yesterday.

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01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 2: An older corner they've worked out. Who was it last week?

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01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 2: James Lewis Klein at safety. There was another veteran corner

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01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 2: they worked There was a Kendall Fuller. Yes, yeah, boy,

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01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 2: they're working out all of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 2: Gilmore has been a popular name, and again he defies

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01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 2: the odds of older corners. You know, all these older

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01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 2: corners seemingly fall off a cliff, and he's the one

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01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 2: that's like, no, no, no, I still got it. So

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Speaker 2: three weeks from today and you know again, what position cornerback, linebacker,

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01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 2: edge rusher. If you could only trade for one, what

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01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 2: would you do? Gil Moore would be a signing.

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Speaker 1: But you start putting the pressure on people, the secondary

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01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:41,639
Speaker 1: gets a whole lot better.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing how much they've invested into that defensive line room.

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01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:48,759
Speaker 2: I believe it's the highest paid group in the NFL.

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01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 2: You have three first round picks, I think it's three seconds,

1890
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 2: maybe it might be two seconds, two thirds and two fourths.

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01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 2: When you have nine dudes in that room, all top

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01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 2: four round picks, three of them in round one, and yet.

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01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 1: One of them can't even get the active right now.

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01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 2: I feel like your pass rush is.

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01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 3: Just Yeah a good point from Jeff J T.

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01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 4: Twouoloile second round pick still not playing at this point

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01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:12,639
Speaker 4: of the year.

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01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 2: Or so, he was a healthy scratch on Sunday.

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01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would probably lean towards getting a pass rusher.

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01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 4: I mean, you look at who gets paid in this league.

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01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 4: It's quarterbacks and then the guys who get after quarterbacks

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01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 4: or the guy who protects the quarterbacks blind side. So

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01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 4: a lot of it has to do with who's throwing

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01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 4: the ball. And if you can get more pressure up front,

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01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 4: think that does alleviate some pressure you have on the

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01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 4: back end, and then presumably you would think you'll get

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01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:36,600
Speaker 4: healthier at some point in the back end too. Like

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01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 4: I don't know if there's not a health factor with

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01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 4: the defensive line. Is just that outside of Forrest Buckner

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01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 4: and Grover Stewart, your defensive aid and specifically are not

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01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 4: doing enough. And you know, layout tou Latu. I dove

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01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 4: into all the advanced numbers and metrics. He's up there

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01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 4: for all of them. But then you look at like

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01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 4: the regular old stats like sacks and QB hits and

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01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 4: stuff like that, and he's not doing enough quite frankly.

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01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 4: So I'm curious to see how they adjust and if

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01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 4: you know, if someone can take a leap, and I

1918
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 4: think that's someone has to be a lot too. If

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01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 4: he's not going to be a dominant player this year,

1920
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 4: that would be disappointing because of where you, like you said, Kevin,

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01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 4: you invested so much in that position and perhaps nothing

1922
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 4: was as big of an investment in drafting. I got

1923
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 4: too lot to first, you know, in the first round.

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01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 4: I want to say fifteenth overall, your first pick a

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01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 4: couple of years ago. First tem as the player drafted.

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Speaker 1: Ethan says, I take a shot at the honey Badger. Well,

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01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 1: since we're talking about guys starting to get older.

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01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 3: Right, No, I'm good on that.

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Speaker 2: Didn't he retire?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

1931
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:36,719
Speaker 1: He retired.

1932
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:38,799
Speaker 4: And also he was in safety, so you need a quarterback.

1933
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 4: The safetyes are actually pretty good this year.

1934
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,799
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people wanting a like Indie Finisher.

1935
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 1: Why not use the Swiss army knife. Tyler Warren is

1936
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:47,679
Speaker 1: an emergency backup quarterback.

1937
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm trying.

1938
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 4: Not to be disrespectful, but you love Tyler Warren.

1939
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 3: I like him at tight.

1940
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 2: End trying it. Since what are you taking the I

1941
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 2: rode here? I mean, come on, call him out if

1942
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 2: you need to call him out.

1943
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 3: I mean that is as and I come on, that didn't.

1944
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 1: Take long for you didn't take it didn't take.

1945
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 4: Long, which is why I didn't just dunk on the

1946
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 4: guy like he's clearly joking. I mean, I don't think

1947
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 4: anybody is very serious about that. I mean, I do

1948
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 4: like the South Paul. Look, but no, I don't want

1949
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 4: him back there pretending to be toua.

1950
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Commission says again. Uh Hanick, heineke for me at quarterback.

1951
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:30,640
Speaker 1: He's free. Called Dion. Call anybody?

1952
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 3: Wait, wait who call?

1953
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: What he said called Dion. I don't know what that

1954
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 1: meant exactly, but.

1955
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 3: He's someone Dion Sanders or something. All enough of that

1956
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 3: we can go to break.

1957
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 1: I think he's starting for cornerback. Help at this point

1958
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 1: in time is we can go to break? All right? Uh,

1959
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 1: now that Kevin has gotten James to call someone as nine,

1960
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 1: we're in good shape now. Coming up next though, we

1961
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 1: will talk to Zach Keifer. We'll get back on track

1962
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:56,719
Speaker 1: talking about the Colts and uh find out what Zach

1963
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 1: discovered when he was at the Colts game this past Sunday.

1964
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 1: It's up next to ninety three five and seven to five?

1965
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 1: Fan man, how good is it to be living in

1966
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 1: the Hoosier State right now? You got the number three

1967
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 1: team in America and college football. You got the preseason

1968
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 1: number one college basketball team, you got the number one

1969
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 1: team in the AFC and the National Football League.

1970
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 2: You got an NBA.

1971
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 1: Team coming off of Game seven appearance in the NBA Finals,

1972
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 1: and I know I'm leaving stuff out like the INNY

1973
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:28,599
Speaker 1: five hundred and all the other great things going on,

1974
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 1: like it's it's great to be a sports fan in

1975
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 1: this state at this time.

1976
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 2: Kevin, Yeah, fever, hell of a run with a banged

1977
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 2: up bunch. Selfishly maybe mentioned the team in South Bend

1978
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 2: making it to the National title game, but I know

1979
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 2: that's very selfish of me. On that Zach Keeper going

1980
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 2: to join us in a few James, I don't think

1981
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 2: I'm here. But has Anthony Richardson put on a Colts

1982
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 2: uniform for the last time?

1983
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 3: That's a great question.

1984
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm here again. He's on IR so

1985
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,719
Speaker 2: he's got to miss four games. Trade deadline three weeks

1986
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 2: from today. I don't necessarily I'm not inferring that he'll

1987
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 2: be traded, but like if all of a sudden you

1988
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 2: sign a new quarterback that you like being the backup,

1989
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:19,600
Speaker 2: those that dude become the backup for the rest of

1990
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 2: the year, Does Riley Leonards stay as the QB three

1991
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 2: for the rest of the year and then who knows

1992
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 2: what happens at the end of the year. Just the

1993
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,679
Speaker 2: thought that I did have when I saw the IR

1994
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:31,639
Speaker 2: news last night.

1995
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 4: That is something to consider because of the amount of

1996
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 4: time he's gonna miss.

1997
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 3: So if you get a backup.

1998
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 4: In here and you like his process and what he's doing,

1999
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 4: is a month enough time to possibly supplant ar. I

2000
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 4: can't rule anything out, but I think it'd be hard

2001
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 4: to kind of say, Okay, I got you invested the

2002
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 4: fourth pick in a couple of years ago, is suddenly

2003
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 4: not your backup anymore after a month of being an

2004
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:56,719
Speaker 4: IR possibly longer.

2005
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:57,759
Speaker 3: We don't know when.

2006
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 4: He'll be back, but yeah, I guess all kind of fluid,

2007
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 4: and it is a question. I hadn't really thought about

2008
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 4: Matthew Richardson in a Colts uniform. I will say the

2009
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 4: last time we heard from his camp on the record,

2010
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 4: they said they didn't really trust the Colts process and

2011
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 4: they're playing moving forward with him. So I was always

2012
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 4: in the camp off they're not going to trade a

2013
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 4: mid season because that would just be dumb on both parts.

2014
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 3: You need your backup quarterback and AR and.

2015
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 4: Theory before his injury that his next opportunity to be

2016
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:25,640
Speaker 4: on the field because Daniel Jones, who has the in

2017
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 4: sense of injury history, would be knocked out of a

2018
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 4: game or something like that. So we'll see where things

2019
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 4: stand at the end of the year. And I do

2020
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 4: think that's when things could heat up possibly and we

2021
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 4: get some more traction on possible trade talker rumors or

2022
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 4: things like that.

2023
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 1: All right, let's check the gay guest line right now,

2024
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 1: the pay Less Liquors Hotline, and Zach Keifer from the

2025
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 1: Athletic is standing by to talk to us. And Zach,

2026
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 1: good morning. Thanks for being here on a Tuesday. Always

2027
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 1: good to hear from you. We were just talking about

2028
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 1: this as you came on. Is it possible we've seen

2029
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:54,639
Speaker 1: the last of Anthony Richardson with the Indianapolis Colts.

2030
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 6: I think that's a totally fair question, Jeff. I hadn't

2031
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 6: really thought about that, and it's really unfortunate that this

2032
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 6: is the incident that sort of spurs that question. First off,

2033
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 6: I hope he I hope he's okay. This sounds like

2034
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 6: a really strange, weird accident that happened in the locker

2035
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 6: room before the game. But I do feel like this

2036
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 6: team is starting to realize that their quarterback is Daniel Jones,

2037
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 6: and maybe everything falls apart at the end of the season.

2038
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 6: But it certainly seems like Daniel Jones is going to

2039
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 6: be the quarterback beyond twenty twenty five.

2040
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 4: So I do want to say, Zach, thanks for joining

2041
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 4: the show and thanks for ruining my life like you

2042
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 4: always seem to do when you come around. Things got

2043
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 4: a little weird there for us in pregame, But I

2044
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:42,720
Speaker 4: do know that you were stopping by not only for

2045
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 4: the game, but more so to get a little more

2046
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 4: insight on Daniel Jones how he's wired. You basically told

2047
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 4: him after the game he has no life, and he

2048
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 4: kind of grinned at you. But reading through your story

2049
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 4: this morning, you had a chance to catch up with

2050
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 4: Jason gear who gave us a lot of you know,

2051
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 4: sort of I think insight that I hadn't heard of publicly.

2052
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:01,559
Speaker 4: So can you give us I guess not to give

2053
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 4: away your story, but give us a couple of cliff

2054
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 4: notes there on what you learned from Jason Garrett about

2055
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones and why that's helped him here Indianapolis.

2056
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:12,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, so you guys are not going to believe this,

2057
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 6: but when you're trying to find something interesting about Daniel Jones,

2058
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 6: it's really freaked it hard. I mean, I put this

2059
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 6: in the lead of the story. But I asked, like

2060
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:23,640
Speaker 6: two or three of the vets on the team, like,

2061
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 6: can you tell me something interesting about this dude? And

2062
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 6: I got a lot of blank stares. And that's not

2063
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 6: to say that Daniel Jones is super super boring, but

2064
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:34,120
Speaker 6: even he said in his press conference, like, I don't

2065
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 6: do a whole lot besides this stuff, and this stuff

2066
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 6: would be right now running the best offense in the league,

2067
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 6: the highest scoring offense in football. But to pivot to

2068
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 6: Jason Garrett, yeah, like I learned a little bit from him.

2069
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 6: I don't know if he was the right fit in

2070
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 6: New York. And I know that Eli was his predecessor.

2071
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 6: And Eli was the guy who never gave any good

2072
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 6: quotes and was super stoic and was unflappable, right, and

2073
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 6: he won the two Super Bowls, one of which he

2074
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:03,720
Speaker 6: won right down the street at Lucas Soil. But with

2075
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 6: Daniel Jones, you know, I got the story of him

2076
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:09,880
Speaker 6: like taking the ferry across the Hudson River and then

2077
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 6: running an e bike to ride into New York City

2078
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 6: when he would go to dinner with people, and it

2079
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:18,080
Speaker 6: just seems like the most opposite thing you would think

2080
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 6: of the New York Giants quarterback, and I just don't

2081
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:24,719
Speaker 6: know if his personality meshed with New York as well

2082
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 6: as some others would maybe Jackson Dark who seems to

2083
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:30,760
Speaker 6: be really embracing the spotlight there, and they seem to

2084
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 6: be have something going there in terms of a spark.

2085
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 6: But honestly, like in talking to Daniel Jones and then

2086
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 6: talking to Jason Garrett and talking to people in New York,

2087
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,640
Speaker 6: it just feels like Indiana is more his speed. And

2088
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:44,720
Speaker 6: there's nothing wrong with that. It's my speed too.

2089
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 2: Genzach Kieper from the Athletic who with this see on

2090
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 2: the payloss slicker sideline. The latest Daniel Jones might be

2091
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 2: the most vanilla QB in the NFL and a perfect

2092
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 2: fit for the Colts.

2093
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 3: More chocolate.

2094
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 2: It's a great read up on the well Halloween right now,

2095
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 2: a lot of that standards. What's his favorite Halloween candy?

2096
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:04,839
Speaker 2: We could go there. Cookies are brownies?

2097
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 1: Right?

2098
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2099
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 1: Which one?

2100
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 5: Zach?

2101
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 1: Very broken?

2102
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:10,839
Speaker 2: Signetti at him, Zach Keefer, do you have a favorite

2103
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:11,799
Speaker 2: cookies or brownies?

2104
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:12,920
Speaker 6: Cookies?

2105
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 1: Zach, You're invited Saturday afternoon and watch some football. We'll

2106
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:18,679
Speaker 1: call it good.

2107
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 2: There's the reason why Zach looks away he does and

2108
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 2: runs as fast as he does. You know, he's not

2109
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 2: enough brownies out there, Uh, Zach. It almost seems like

2110
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:29,520
Speaker 2: when you say perfect fit for the Colts, I immediately

2111
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 2: go to Shane p Syke and and just how he's wired.

2112
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:34,960
Speaker 2: He is psychotic from a preparation standpoint, I would argue,

2113
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 2: and I think Daniel Jones meets him at that level.

2114
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 2: So yes, you know, living in more of a quaint

2115
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 2: city and whatever part of town and all of that,

2116
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:46,439
Speaker 2: and the speed of Indie I would agree with. It

2117
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:48,679
Speaker 2: also seems like the marriage from a head coach play

2118
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 2: caller fits exactly what he was looking for as well.

2119
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:54,680
Speaker 6: You know what, I went back to KB, You're you're

2120
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 6: dead on and this this really hit me on Sunday

2121
01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 6: as I was listening to Stike and talk about the

2122
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:02,680
Speaker 6: operation they do, and then Daniel Jones talk about it.

2123
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 6: When we have Shane Steiken back in twenty twenty three,

2124
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 6: what he wanted in a quarterback, because we knew they

2125
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 6: were gonna draft one. The first thing he said was obsession.

2126
01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 6: I want a quarterback who's obsessed. And that hit me

2127
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:18,639
Speaker 6: more and more as we got through the Anthony Richardson era,

2128
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 6: which TDD at this point, but it feels like Jones

2129
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:24,880
Speaker 6: is that guy. I mean, he's calling out plays from

2130
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:27,920
Speaker 6: the Panthers Week two game the night before they played

2131
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:30,640
Speaker 6: the Cardinals on Sunday to say, hey, let's watch this

2132
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 6: clip from a month ago because we might see this look.

2133
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 6: And it just seems like that's more of Shane Stikeen's style. Why,

2134
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:39,760
Speaker 6: because that's who Stikeen was. I mean, Stikeen was the

2135
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 6: teenager in high school who would skip out on the

2136
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 6: parties to sneak into the stadium to throw to his receivers.

2137
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 6: I mean, he wants an obsessive guy. Why did he

2138
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 6: have so much success in Philly because Jalen hurts it

2139
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:54,280
Speaker 6: like that. He's all business, he's all football, and he's

2140
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 6: locked in. And it just feels like Staken may have

2141
01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:00,160
Speaker 6: finally found a perfect fit for him in Indianapolis. He

2142
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 6: had some success with Gardner Minshew, But it just feels like,

2143
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:07,680
Speaker 6: like you mentioned obsessive, psychotic. I mean that's Stikean, right,

2144
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 6: He is all ball. Everyone I talked to in the

2145
01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 6: league has the same description of Saan s Tyken. He's

2146
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 6: all ball, there's nothing else and it just feels like

2147
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:17,720
Speaker 6: Daniel Jones is the perfect quarterback for that. And I

2148
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Speaker 6: don't want to omit the fact that he's got maybe

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Speaker 6: the best young tight end in football, he's got a

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01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 6: running back, he's playing like an MVP. The line is

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01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:28,679
Speaker 6: balling out, and the receivers have been really good. Reggie

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01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:30,600
Speaker 6: Wayne deserves a lot of credit. Josh downs with a

2153
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 6: tremendous touchdown, Alec Pierce that back sort of turning away

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01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 6: from him, fingertip grabbing the red zone. I mean, like

2155
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 6: that unit. It's to some of the parts. It's certainly

2156
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:44,240
Speaker 6: not Daniel Jones carrying this thing. But I think Shane Stikeen'

2157
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 6: is that good that he can get the most out

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01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:48,799
Speaker 6: of a quarterback like Daniel Jones and have the highest

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01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 6: scoring offense in the league.

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Speaker 4: Zach, when you were there in person, perhaps what impressed

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01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:57,920
Speaker 4: you the most about the way the Colts offenses operated,

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01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 4: especially against an Arizona defense into that game that ranked

2163
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:02,559
Speaker 4: fourth in the league in points aloud?

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01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I go back to this. I go back

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01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 6: to the best offenses make it easy on themselves, right,

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01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 6: So I travel around lot, I watch a lot of

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01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 6: these offenses in training camp, and then in the season

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01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 6: and you get a feel for how easy they're making

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01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:19,400
Speaker 6: it on themselves. Are they putting themselves in third and nine? A,

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01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:21,680
Speaker 6: they're putting themselves in third and two? You know, the

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01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 6: Colts are averaging the most first downs per drive of

2172
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 6: any offense in football. This is the polar opposite of

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01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 6: last year. This is the polar opposite. And I don't

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01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 6: mean to pile on Anthony Richardson because everybody wasn't blame,

2175
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:37,720
Speaker 6: but look, they made it so difficult on themselves last year.

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Speaker 6: They couldn't make the layoffs, they couldn't complete easy passes

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Speaker 6: over the middle, and they couldn't do the things that

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01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:46,720
Speaker 6: sustain drives. The Colts had the shortest time of possession

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01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 6: per drive last year. You guys know why. You watched

2180
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:51,720
Speaker 6: all the games, right, three and out, three and out,

2181
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 6: three and out, third and eleven, third and twelve, third

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01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:56,639
Speaker 6: and nine, and they just didn't have a quarterback who

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01:35:56,680 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 6: was accurate enough to complete those passes. Jones is soeraly

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01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:02,559
Speaker 6: more accurate than Richard said, but he also is getting

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01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 6: them in better situations. I'm pretty sure the touchdown to

2186
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 6: Taylor was a check. So it's just those little things

2187
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:10,719
Speaker 6: that add up that make it easier on your offense.

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01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:14,439
Speaker 6: And to your question, James Arizontal, it was a difficult defense.

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01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 6: They were tough and it looked like the Colts are

2190
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:20,840
Speaker 6: having some trouble getting the ball consistently down there, but

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01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:22,720
Speaker 6: they just kept finding a way. They have a lot

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01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 6: of answers and the quarterback has a lot of answers,

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01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 6: and I think you put that together, it's really fun

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01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 6: to watch them really click, because this offense has not

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01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 6: clicked like this since I mean, I'm not even gonna

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01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 6: say twenty twenty one, because the quarterbacks faded down the

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01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:38,800
Speaker 6: stretch and nobody wants to talk about that. But it's

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01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:41,120
Speaker 6: a little bit like the Philip Rivers offense in twenty twenty,

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01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:43,760
Speaker 6: which I have a soft spot for because it was

2200
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:46,559
Speaker 6: so fricking fun to watch him throw that throw that

2201
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 6: offense out there and just throw with anticipation. And so

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01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:52,120
Speaker 6: this offense is for real. They have a lot of answers,

2203
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 6: they have a lot of balance, and Shae Stiken really

2204
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:56,840
Speaker 6: deserves a lot of credit for what he's doing with

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01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 6: this group.

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01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:00,360
Speaker 2: Zach, I want to take it in a different direction

2207
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 2: here before we let you go, and again, appreciate your

2208
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 2: time here on this Tuesday morning. I said it to

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01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:08,880
Speaker 2: you in the press box on Sunday. You need to

2210
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:12,280
Speaker 2: write the Kurt Signetti feature. I know some people have

2211
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:14,920
Speaker 2: attempted it, but no one's a future writer like you.

2212
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 2: It's your alma mater. Someone's got to write that story

2213
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 2: because it's one of the best coaching jobs pro college.

2214
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 2: You need to do it. Sorry to put work on your.

2215
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 6: Plate, man, I don't think I'd have a shred of

2216
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 6: objectivity if I did that story, because I'm having as

2217
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 6: much fun with AYU football I think as anybody. And

2218
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:36,840
Speaker 6: I was arguing with my friends the other day and

2219
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:39,599
Speaker 6: I'll throw this to you, guys. Is it the best

2220
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 6: hire that they've made since Bob Knight, since Jerry Yeagley.

2221
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 6: I mean, it's hard to argue with that. You just

2222
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 6: don't see this in college football, what he's done in

2223
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 6: such a short amount of time. But I think it's

2224
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:52,680
Speaker 6: up there with one of the best hires in that

2225
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 6: school's athletic history.

2226
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:56,479
Speaker 2: Zach and my four years there, which I think overlapped

2227
01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:59,160
Speaker 2: a little bit with you. They won three Big Ten

2228
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 2: football game in four years. They gave up eighty three

2229
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 2: points in a football game to Wisconsin, like Bill there,

2230
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:08,879
Speaker 2: those are my football memories.

2231
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's my football memories. Are people not leaving the

2232
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:17,000
Speaker 6: tailgates because there was no point, Sure, that's what it was.

2233
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 6: That's what it was, or leaving the game after the

2234
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 6: first or second quarter, because that's what it was. And

2235
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:26,639
Speaker 6: he's completely changed it. He's cocky, he's arrogant, and I'm

2236
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:27,760
Speaker 6: here for every minute of it.

2237
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 1: You know he's down of business when he puts those

2238
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:32,120
Speaker 1: hands on the hips and he's got that look on

2239
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 1: his face like something bad is about that into the

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Speaker 1: other team. I like that he's got a sideline.

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01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 6: We were watching him during the Illinois game. We went

2242
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:41,360
Speaker 6: down and had some pretty good seats, and I mean

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01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:43,719
Speaker 6: the game was a little tight early in the first quarter,

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01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:48,559
Speaker 6: early James early in the game.

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01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:50,400
Speaker 3: But say if he went to the bathroom and tame back,

2246
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:51,520
Speaker 3: they were down thirty.

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01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 6: But say he was. He was away from the coaches

2248
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 6: most of the game with his hands on his hips,

2249
01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:00,760
Speaker 6: just glaring at the field. And then you watch the

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Speaker 6: game and they are just punishing them upfront, I mean,

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01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 6: absolutely destroying the Aligni's offensive line. And Signetti doesn't even

2252
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 6: act like he's face, doesn't even act like you've seen

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01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:12,800
Speaker 6: anything happening out there. It was amazing. I mean it was.

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01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:15,760
Speaker 6: We're talking about one of the greatest beatdowns I've ever

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Speaker 6: seen them from.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, all right enough, get him off the airwaves, all.

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01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:22,599
Speaker 1: Right, Zach?

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01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 3: That was in facts.

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01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:25,760
Speaker 4: No, I agree, man, After seeing that is why I

2260
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:27,439
Speaker 4: picked them against Oregon. I'm like, you beat a team

2261
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:30,280
Speaker 4: like that by fifty who For the following week, Illinois

2262
01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 4: came back and beat usc They're not some scrub team.

2263
01:39:33,160 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 3: They just did I use on a different level this year.

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01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:38,080
Speaker 6: What a different world we live in. The Colts are

2265
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 6: rolling the Indiana Who's your football team is rolling? It

2266
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:44,400
Speaker 6: feels like it feels like we're stealing money right now

2267
01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 6: or something.

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01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 4: Hey, this is good living. So Zach, will let you

2269
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:50,040
Speaker 4: get out of here. Man, Thanks for stopping by the game.

2270
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:52,360
Speaker 4: I'm sure I'll see you around. But uh yeah, get

2271
01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:55,639
Speaker 4: started on that signetti piece. We're not asking for objectivity anyway.

2272
01:39:55,760 --> 01:40:01,679
Speaker 4: Just be objectively fun in the piece, how about that, Zach.

2273
01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:03,640
Speaker 1: All I know is I have several family members that

2274
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 1: occasionally make a batch of cookies for me. You're invited

2275
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:07,760
Speaker 1: next time. Man.

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01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 6: You're there, Man, I'm in I mean I stay away

2277
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 6: from those brownies though, I'm in.

2278
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 1: Thanks guys, all right, sounds good. Zach Keith for the

2279
01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 1: athletic joining us hero the Payless Liquors hotline. You know

2280
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:18,080
Speaker 1: we talked about real quick go ahead.

2281
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:19,840
Speaker 2: I was just say we talked about to lead off

2282
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:21,600
Speaker 2: of the show. But for those that missed it, you

2283
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:23,599
Speaker 2: know a little bit of this chatter of Kurt Signetti

2284
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:26,639
Speaker 2: Penn State and you know, just to kind of, I guess,

2285
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:29,479
Speaker 2: add a little context to it all. Kurt Signetti grew

2286
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 2: up in Pittsburgh. He played at West Virginia, so the

2287
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:35,640
Speaker 2: Penn State connections are not like direct direct Pat Kraft. Ironically,

2288
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 2: Penn State's ad played football at IU. You know, what

2289
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 2: do you do that to his alma honor? Uh Now,

2290
01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 2: Zach said something that kind of was hitting on to

2291
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:51,320
Speaker 2: lead off the show. Kurt Signetti's ego is real and

2292
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:54,719
Speaker 2: it's healthy for Indiana, Like Indiana needed that, and I

2293
01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:57,960
Speaker 2: think that ego wants to be the one to take

2294
01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 2: Indiana football to stratosphere. They've never sniffed where if you

2295
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:06,599
Speaker 2: go to Penn State just another guy is too offensive, probably,

2296
01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 2: but it's Penn State football. The brand is bigger than you,

2297
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti is bigger than IU football like that he

2298
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 2: can build the brands that like. You know, when you

2299
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:18,679
Speaker 2: think about Indiana football now, people are going to start

2300
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 2: thinking about the JMU coach Kurt Signetti before they think

2301
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:25,519
Speaker 2: about you know the history of the Kreem and Crimson

2302
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:27,840
Speaker 2: and the nineteen sixty seven Rose Bowl. And you know,

2303
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:31,960
Speaker 2: unfortunately that's just the reality. But I mean that, I

2304
01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:34,639
Speaker 2: know it maybe doesn't sound like an outright compliment per se,

2305
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:36,720
Speaker 2: but who cares. Like all that matters is do you

2306
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 2: want to be your football coach or not? And I

2307
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:43,519
Speaker 2: think his ego will want to continue to take IU

2308
01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 2: football to places they never got there in their dreams.

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01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 7: So I'll tell you what, Well, go ahead, Jeff of sorry,

2310
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:51,360
Speaker 7: cause here's the other part about this.

2311
01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:55,920
Speaker 1: As we sit here today, I'm not convinced that Indiana

2312
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:59,800
Speaker 1: isn't just as attractive a football destination as Penn State is.

2313
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:02,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there are some you know, if you're

2314
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 2: gonna list out the pros and cons, that think are

2315
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:06,680
Speaker 2: definitely some boxes where Indiana is much more competitive. You know,

2316
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:09,320
Speaker 2: you still are getting whatever one hundred thousand to show

2317
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:11,679
Speaker 2: up the Happy Valley Weekly, and you know, kurtz Ignetti

2318
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:14,880
Speaker 2: still is asking for his fans to stay there for

2319
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:17,559
Speaker 2: the you know, non big, non Illinois game.

2320
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:21,080
Speaker 4: Well, go ahead, James, I will say, you know, to

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01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:24,519
Speaker 4: your point about just how different things feel, and this

2322
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:26,320
Speaker 4: is how I look at all things when it comes

2323
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 4: to sports. Actually growing up, your highlights, your best moments

2324
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 4: are no longer grainy and on film that you gotta

2325
01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:35,599
Speaker 4: you know, dig out of the archives. Your best moments

2326
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:38,160
Speaker 4: are happening right now. That's how Yeah, that's how different

2327
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:39,880
Speaker 4: it feels. I feel like if you if I got

2328
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:42,800
Speaker 4: to look in squint and see, man, that's not HD man?

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Speaker 3: Is that even? Is that that the first time they

2330
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:45,240
Speaker 3: had a color television?

2331
01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:46,679
Speaker 4: I mean, these are the moments that we're talking about

2332
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 4: for IU football that I mean, as an Illinois guy,

2333
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 4: was similar to when they kind of had a researchers

2334
01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 4: here in years past, where it's like your last time

2335
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:56,599
Speaker 4: you were good was way back when you know, some

2336
01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:58,880
Speaker 4: somebody telling me, oh, back in the thirties and forties.

2337
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 4: And I don't care about that. Kids care about what

2338
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:03,720
Speaker 4: happened yesterday and yesterday or at least last weekend. You

2339
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:06,920
Speaker 4: had a great showing at Oregon and you're rolling right now.

2340
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:10,679
Speaker 4: So it's a different day, different dawn, all those different

2341
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:13,000
Speaker 4: things you want through out there, because i U is

2342
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:15,600
Speaker 4: for real, and I would venture to say they have

2343
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:16,479
Speaker 4: more to prove this year.

2344
01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 1: And they also now literally can go toe to toe

2345
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:22,840
Speaker 1: with just about anybody in the country when it comes

2346
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:28,320
Speaker 1: to financial considerations, whether it's upgrading facilities, whether it's the

2347
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:31,400
Speaker 1: amount of money available to you through donors and alums

2348
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:33,120
Speaker 1: and things like that. I use not taking a back

2349
01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:35,960
Speaker 1: seat to too many folks these days. They're right there,

2350
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:38,200
Speaker 1: not at all all right, coming up at a minute,

2351
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:40,519
Speaker 1: we'll have a little readings review for you from all

2352
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:42,599
Speaker 1: over the place. But right now we've got to check

2353
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:46,639
Speaker 1: down here on a Tuesday morning, gentlemen, the culture off today.

2354
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 1: They'll get back to work tomorrow, but they might be

2355
01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:52,599
Speaker 1: looking for a backup quarterback today. James Boyd, what are

2356
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:55,240
Speaker 1: the possibilities of what do we know right now?

2357
01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:58,080
Speaker 4: Well, we know that Anthony Richardson's going to be out

2358
01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 4: for at least the next four games, which is next

2359
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:02,960
Speaker 4: five weeks because there's a bye week ind there as well.

2360
01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 4: He cannot return until week twelve at Kansas City. So

2361
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:08,640
Speaker 4: in the meantime, do you go out and get a

2362
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:12,040
Speaker 4: veteran quarterback. Assuming you do, what avenue do you take?

2363
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:14,320
Speaker 4: Is that free agency? Is that signing a guy for

2364
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 4: practice squad for another team, or do you trade for someone?

2365
01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of options out there, and I'm

2366
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:20,720
Speaker 4: sure a lot of us like me and Kevin will

2367
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:23,560
Speaker 4: be breaking those things down for you at our respective outlets.

2368
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 1: Kevin, and then it comes to making a trip to

2369
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:27,800
Speaker 1: the grocery store and maybe not just backup quarterback. Is

2370
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:30,519
Speaker 1: there a possibility they could be kicking the tires on

2371
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:34,599
Speaker 1: secondary people, specifically cornerbacks and maybe even edge rushers.

2372
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:36,160
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna say the French onion and the

2373
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 2: ranch dip from Daisy there, I thought. I thought that's

2374
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 2: where you were going with the trift to the guntry store.

2375
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 2: By the way, three weeks from today trade deadline. So

2376
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:46,040
Speaker 2: I think you get through quarterback and you know, you

2377
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:48,920
Speaker 2: obviously see how you rank out those other positions. Do

2378
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 2: you look at corner and say, hey, we'll get healthier

2379
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:54,800
Speaker 2: there you linebacker and defensive end. I don't necessarily know

2380
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:58,599
Speaker 2: if injuries are at play they are contributing to those

2381
01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 2: question marks. That's they definitely not defensive end you're really

2382
01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 2: healthy there. Linebacker maybe Jalen Carlies. So yeah, I could

2383
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:09,120
Speaker 2: definitely envision a defensive move here, especially because we've never

2384
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:12,360
Speaker 2: seen the Colts in this position. Trade deadline a few

2385
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:16,320
Speaker 2: weeks away atop the AFC. You know you're in much

2386
01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:19,320
Speaker 2: more of a win now. We should be a buyer.

2387
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:22,040
Speaker 2: We are in a position to capitalize on this season

2388
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:24,040
Speaker 2: than really you have been at all in the other

2389
01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:25,240
Speaker 2: eight years of crisp out.

2390
01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:26,920
Speaker 1: All right, last week they were looking for a kicker,

2391
01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:28,880
Speaker 1: they found one and bad. So it was terrific right out.

2392
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:29,080
Speaker 6: Of the gate.

2393
01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 1: So who knows what happens this week, Maybe they hit

2394
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 1: lightning twice. Meanwhile, in the NFL, there is no good

2395
01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:39,680
Speaker 1: news coming out of Tennessee for Brian Callahan. He has

2396
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:44,000
Speaker 1: been relieved of his duties. James Boyd for the Tennessee Titans.

2397
01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:48,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, had an awful what year plus almost two years

2398
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:52,479
Speaker 4: basically with that team. Did not see much progress there,

2399
01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:55,400
Speaker 4: which is why they moved on from him, and Mike

2400
01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 4: McCoy will take over.

2401
01:45:57,120 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 3: As the interim coach. And I believe Kevin you pointed

2402
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 3: out he's got some more up with Shane Stychen.

2403
01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, HIV and Chane were together. He was the head

2404
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:05,400
Speaker 2: coach and with the Chargers when Shane Saking kind early

2405
01:46:05,439 --> 01:46:07,320
Speaker 2: in his coaching ten years. So yeah, Shane, we'll see

2406
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:09,760
Speaker 2: the Chargers this week, I think nine years in a

2407
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:12,840
Speaker 2: variety of roles with the Chargers and the Colts. We'll

2408
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 2: see Mike McCoy and the Titans coming up here, not

2409
01:46:16,160 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 2: this week but next week and again. Dysfunction has been

2410
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:20,920
Speaker 2: the name of the game in Tennessee. You know, it's

2411
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:22,920
Speaker 2: crazy to think that there for a couple of years

2412
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:25,479
Speaker 2: they were like they were the one seed one year

2413
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:28,840
Speaker 2: with Ryan Tannahal and Mike Rabel and why they fired

2414
01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:30,280
Speaker 2: Rabels just beyond me.

2415
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:34,320
Speaker 1: Tennessee doing Titans things. I suppose two games on Monday

2416
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:37,200
Speaker 1: Night football. Last night, Atlanta Falcons beat the Buffalo Bills

2417
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:39,960
Speaker 1: twenty four to fourteen, second loss in a row for

2418
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:43,200
Speaker 1: the Bills, and their head coach says it's time to

2419
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:45,120
Speaker 1: go back to the drawing board all of a sudden.

2420
01:46:45,160 --> 01:46:47,400
Speaker 1: I mean, they're sitting there at four and two, not

2421
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:52,240
Speaker 1: that bad, but there. Yeah, So Sean McDermott and his

2422
01:46:52,280 --> 01:46:54,400
Speaker 1: group getting back to work there and the Bears got

2423
01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 1: to walk off field goal the last second there from

2424
01:46:57,560 --> 01:47:00,880
Speaker 1: Jake Moody to beat the Washington Commanders twenty five twenty four.

2425
01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:02,960
Speaker 1: I saw highlights this morning. It did not see that

2426
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 1: one live. Kevin Bowen, Were you still awake? I bailed

2427
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 1: at the end of Bill's falcons? All right. The Pacers meanwhile,

2428
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 1: finish up their preseason last night, or not their home

2429
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:14,840
Speaker 1: schedule of the preseason. They still have one more at

2430
01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:17,479
Speaker 1: San Antonio on Friday, but last night they lose at

2431
01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:19,679
Speaker 1: home to the Spurs one twenty four to one oh eight.

2432
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:21,960
Speaker 1: Benedict Mather and the story in the first half had

2433
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:24,360
Speaker 1: twenty seven first half points, thirty one on the night.

2434
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:28,599
Speaker 1: Andrew Nemhart eleven points, eight assists. But the big story,

2435
01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:30,640
Speaker 1: if you want to look at the downside of it,

2436
01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:33,559
Speaker 1: James Boyd is the center position was struggling last night.

2437
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:37,439
Speaker 3: Isaiah Jackson had three fouls and three seconds last night.

2438
01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:38,959
Speaker 3: Not ideal.

2439
01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:42,040
Speaker 4: And yeah, for those who kept saying, you know, Jay

2440
01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:45,439
Speaker 4: Huff this and they can all kind of replace Miles

2441
01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:46,280
Speaker 4: Turner easily.

2442
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:47,960
Speaker 3: Not so easily.

2443
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:50,800
Speaker 4: I know Miles left, that was his choice, but he

2444
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:52,680
Speaker 4: is certainly I think, better than what they have right

2445
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:54,479
Speaker 4: now at the moment. But we'll see how they are

2446
01:47:54,479 --> 01:47:56,080
Speaker 4: able to adjust. I don't want to, you know, make

2447
01:47:56,120 --> 01:47:59,080
Speaker 4: any true declarative statements. I do think they're worse off

2448
01:47:59,120 --> 01:48:02,160
Speaker 4: without Miles, that's an obvious statement. But can that group

2449
01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 4: kind of, you know, build some things as we've hosted

2450
01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:05,840
Speaker 4: a regular season.

2451
01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 1: All right programming note tonight coming up at seven pm,

2452
01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:11,360
Speaker 1: we will have track side with Kurt and Kevin. Looking

2453
01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:12,960
Speaker 1: forward to that as always. And then right after that

2454
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:15,919
Speaker 1: eight oh eight tonight, first pitch the National League Championship

2455
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:18,479
Speaker 1: Series Game two. The Dodgers won Game one last night

2456
01:48:18,479 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 1: over the Brewers by a score of two to one.

2457
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:23,800
Speaker 1: Blake Snell when eight innings of shutout baseball, allowed just

2458
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:26,800
Speaker 1: one hit, no walks, ten strikeouts. And they'll do Game

2459
01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:28,599
Speaker 1: two tonight. You'll hear it live right here in ninety

2460
01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:30,040
Speaker 1: three five and one to seven five of the fan.

2461
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:32,000
Speaker 1: The Mariners took a two games to none advantage over

2462
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:34,479
Speaker 1: the Blue Jays in the American League. They're off today,

2463
01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:36,400
Speaker 1: but they won ten three last night. Anything else you

2464
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:37,440
Speaker 1: want to throw in KB.

2465
01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Purdue ranked number one in the preseason college basketball

2466
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:46,120
Speaker 2: Paul Houston, Yukon, Florida the other teams receiving first place

2467
01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:49,679
Speaker 2: votes there and Yes, the Final four is right here

2468
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:53,559
Speaker 2: at Lucas Oil Stadium. That story probably rights itself if

2469
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:55,880
Speaker 2: Perdue is able to play on that first Monday in

2470
01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:57,600
Speaker 2: April and cut down the nets. And then you just

2471
01:48:57,640 --> 01:49:02,200
Speaker 2: saw this announced a few minutes ago. Butler Basketball welcoming back.

2472
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:08,400
Speaker 2: Gordon Hayward, the fourteen year NBA All Star, multi All Star,

2473
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:11,320
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, one time All Star, State again,

2474
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:16,760
Speaker 2: one time All one. Yeah, executive basketball advisor. So he will.

2475
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:18,280
Speaker 2: And I think we've kind of seen this with some

2476
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:21,439
Speaker 2: of these, you know, star NBA players going back to

2477
01:49:21,479 --> 01:49:24,920
Speaker 2: their respective colleges here. So I'll work alongside Bad Model

2478
01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:28,720
Speaker 2: their GM and Grant line Decker their ad there. And

2479
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:32,080
Speaker 2: it sounds like you'll do some talent evaluation, recruitment, player development,

2480
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:34,880
Speaker 2: team culture, serving the mentorship roles tudent athletes in the

2481
01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:38,879
Speaker 2: program focused on leadership and professional development. So Gordon Hayward

2482
01:49:39,400 --> 01:49:42,000
Speaker 2: back with Butler in a little bit of a role here.

2483
01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:45,400
Speaker 4: Two thousand and eight mister basketball in State of Indiana

2484
01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:49,000
Speaker 4: and led Brownsburg. I believe to the Class four A

2485
01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:52,360
Speaker 4: state championship. Had that buzzer beater there, which gets played.

2486
01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:55,080
Speaker 4: I feel like every montage for our state's basketball history.

2487
01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:56,280
Speaker 2: Shout out, Gilliam Avongo.

2488
01:49:57,920 --> 01:50:00,000
Speaker 3: That's a good pool right there, that's a good pool.

2489
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:03,479
Speaker 1: I love it all right. Coming up next we will

2490
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:05,800
Speaker 1: do a little rankings review, all kinds of things to

2491
01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:07,840
Speaker 1: talk about. Kevin kind of teased one of them. It'll

2492
01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 1: do it next to ninety three five and one to

2493
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:13,439
Speaker 1: seven five the fan. Everybody's happy this morning, Mark Dyton

2494
01:50:13,600 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 1: smiling somewhere in Florida after the Bear's got a walk

2495
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:20,080
Speaker 1: off field goal last night. Caleb's happy because he's the

2496
01:50:20,120 --> 01:50:21,920
Speaker 1: only guy I know happy to get up atfore five

2497
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:23,200
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning and come to work.

2498
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:26,760
Speaker 9: So that's good, dude. I mean, it's nothing better than

2499
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:28,759
Speaker 9: this to just sit behind the board. Here's some awesome

2500
01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:31,240
Speaker 9: people talk sports like. I'm living the dream right now.

2501
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:31,840
Speaker 1: I do it.

2502
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:36,439
Speaker 7: I do it at two am if I needed to. Brother, No,

2503
01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 7: so you don't want to start the show at six

2504
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:38,639
Speaker 7: moving forward?

2505
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:41,160
Speaker 3: No, no chance, no chance. Seven is fine. I'll see

2506
01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:42,639
Speaker 3: you at six fifty eight every morning.

2507
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:45,640
Speaker 4: Just out as a Caleb who's been stepping in seamlessly

2508
01:50:45,800 --> 01:50:48,120
Speaker 4: for the ever on vacation.

2509
01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:50,679
Speaker 2: Mark Dyton, Yeah, you're a Jeff, You're the boss here

2510
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:53,960
Speaker 2: a Wally Pip action here with what Caleb's doing.

2511
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:56,320
Speaker 1: To the all I can say is he's moved up

2512
01:50:56,360 --> 01:50:58,519
Speaker 1: in the rankings. He may have eclipsed Mark dykeon right.

2513
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:02,240
Speaker 3: Like Tom Brady's taking over for Drew. But so Mark, sorry, brother, Yeah.

2514
01:51:02,120 --> 01:51:04,200
Speaker 4: We're talking about Andy Richidon planning again for the calls.

2515
01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:05,839
Speaker 4: You might not get your job.

2516
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:10,040
Speaker 2: Back, calling your name and Disney Mark Dyke then to

2517
01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 2: get you through the week.

2518
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:14,000
Speaker 1: Kevin, you said, what Pip? What is that like?

2519
01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:16,760
Speaker 9: I'm sorry that that reference went over in my head.

2520
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:21,439
Speaker 9: Oh boy, showing my age here, but I'm not that

2521
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:23,559
Speaker 9: much younger than than James at least.

2522
01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:25,519
Speaker 3: No, But honestly, the Wildy Pip thing is like from

2523
01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:26,120
Speaker 3: way back when.

2524
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:29,639
Speaker 1: So for those younger folks, Wally Pip was the guy

2525
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:34,519
Speaker 1: that was the starting center fielder before Luke Gerrigg took

2526
01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:38,040
Speaker 1: his place. Ah then set the all time record for

2527
01:51:38,120 --> 01:51:39,280
Speaker 1: most consecutive games.

2528
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:41,839
Speaker 7: Yes, talking about do you know who Garrett seen forties

2529
01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:43,639
Speaker 7: here or something like the thirties forties?

2530
01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:45,400
Speaker 1: I have to go back and look at exactly. Even

2531
01:51:45,479 --> 01:51:48,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't around back then, James. Yeah, even I wasn't

2532
01:51:48,200 --> 01:51:51,439
Speaker 1: around back then. How about that? There you go all right,

2533
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:54,800
Speaker 1: it's time to do a little rankings recap for you

2534
01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:57,360
Speaker 1: right now, Kevin, you talked about it during the checkdown.

2535
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:00,160
Speaker 1: For the first time in school history. We have all

2536
01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:02,320
Speaker 1: kinds of first times in school histories this week, for

2537
01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:05,760
Speaker 1: the first time in school history, the Purdue boiler Makers,

2538
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:09,719
Speaker 1: Matt Painter, the preseason number one, and the a people

2539
01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:11,439
Speaker 1: that's never happened before.

2540
01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:14,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, very deserving. I mean, when you bring back Braden

2541
01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:16,920
Speaker 2: Smith and Trey Kaufman, Rinn and Fletcher Lawyer. I mean,

2542
01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 2: today's world of college basketball, you will not find early

2543
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:23,880
Speaker 2: any program bringing back three players with the resumes that

2544
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 2: they have. And you know, I think Matt Painter has

2545
01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:29,920
Speaker 2: been super candid as usual this offseason and explaining, hey,

2546
01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:32,640
Speaker 2: I feel like this is the best chance we've had

2547
01:52:32,680 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 2: to win a national title. And he says it, you know,

2548
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:37,599
Speaker 2: mainly from a depth standpoint, you know, not to bring

2549
01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:40,400
Speaker 2: up bad memories, but for new fans, remember whatever Glenn

2550
01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:43,080
Speaker 2: Robinson's back or Robbi Hummel's knee or you know, Isaac

2551
01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:46,800
Speaker 2: Hoskain hurt in the tournament. Now he feels, like I

2552
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:48,720
Speaker 2: think he said it. He thinks their second five would

2553
01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:51,840
Speaker 2: make the NCAA Tournament. You know, that's high praise when

2554
01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:55,160
Speaker 2: you talk about again today's college basketball world, I think

2555
01:52:55,160 --> 01:52:59,000
Speaker 2: it's harder to create depth, frankly, with you know, guys

2556
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:00,880
Speaker 2: wanting to leave, and they did lose Cam Heidi and

2557
01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:04,439
Speaker 2: Miles Colvin to the portal. So yeah, I can't wait

2558
01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:07,559
Speaker 2: for this Purdue basketball season. I think it's it would

2559
01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:09,759
Speaker 2: be a hell of a story to complete where Braden

2560
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 2: Smith and Fletcher Lawyer were with Fairleigh Dickinson and now,

2561
01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:17,240
Speaker 2: you know, getting to the National title game, having the

2562
01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:19,800
Speaker 2: Houston experience last year in the Sweet sixteen inside of

2563
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:23,040
Speaker 2: Lucas Oil Stadium, and then potentially getting back to Lucas

2564
01:53:23,080 --> 01:53:25,519
Speaker 2: Oil for the Final four. I know it's a long

2565
01:53:25,560 --> 01:53:27,960
Speaker 2: ways away when you sit here on October fourteenth, but

2566
01:53:29,120 --> 01:53:29,840
Speaker 2: very very real.

2567
01:53:30,160 --> 01:53:32,839
Speaker 1: Well, I am a huge Matt Painter fan. I always

2568
01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:35,000
Speaker 1: have been. I always want him and his teams to

2569
01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:38,280
Speaker 1: do well, and it still stings a little bit when

2570
01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:40,080
Speaker 1: I think of the Carson Edwards team in that game

2571
01:53:40,120 --> 01:53:46,080
Speaker 1: against Virginia. Man, well, here, here we are. We're gonna

2572
01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:48,120
Speaker 1: get done this year, right, Yeah.

2573
01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:51,000
Speaker 2: I think there's plenty of reason for a ton of optimism.

2574
01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:55,880
Speaker 3: I remember Carson networds came to Champagne or Banna and

2575
01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:59,120
Speaker 3: dunked on the Illinois seven footer and I remember thinking,

2576
01:53:59,160 --> 01:53:59,920
Speaker 3: like that guy can dunk.

2577
01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:00,880
Speaker 2: Like I know he.

2578
01:54:00,840 --> 01:54:02,560
Speaker 3: Probably could dunk, but like dunk on people. He was

2579
01:54:02,600 --> 01:54:03,560
Speaker 3: a special college.

2580
01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:06,160
Speaker 2: Player volleyball line ability and then also could bang on

2581
01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:07,280
Speaker 2: some do Yeah.

2582
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:09,200
Speaker 4: So we will see what Brad Smith had in store

2583
01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:11,080
Speaker 4: for this season. I know he's probably a preseason first

2584
01:54:11,080 --> 01:54:15,600
Speaker 4: team All American and rightfully so, he is just remarkable.

2585
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:17,599
Speaker 4: You look at his career from high school to college

2586
01:54:17,600 --> 01:54:20,000
Speaker 4: and what he's done with that Purdue program. The last

2587
01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:23,000
Speaker 4: thing you're trying to do is win the national championship.

2588
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 4: That's the only thing not on your resume. Everything else

2589
01:54:24,880 --> 01:54:27,320
Speaker 4: is solidify one of the greatest players ever played wear

2590
01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:29,400
Speaker 4: that uniform, and certainly somebody a will go down in

2591
01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:30,400
Speaker 4: that program's history.

2592
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:32,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, before everybody starts writing me and I realized that

2593
01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:34,360
Speaker 1: it was the year of Virginia one. But it just

2594
01:54:34,480 --> 01:54:36,200
Speaker 1: I thought that was the year that Purdue was going

2595
01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:38,520
Speaker 1: to get it done. Yeah, but it didn't work out

2596
01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:41,480
Speaker 1: that way. But maybe this year at home, when I say,

2597
01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:43,600
Speaker 1: at home Final four here in Indie, maybe it all

2598
01:54:43,600 --> 01:54:45,880
Speaker 1: works out all right. Other rankings. We've talked about it

2599
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:49,200
Speaker 1: earlier a lot. Yesterday, highest ranking in school history for

2600
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:54,040
Speaker 1: Indiana football at number three, and people talking about this

2601
01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:57,080
Speaker 1: program like it's got staying power, and I one hundred

2602
01:54:57,120 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 1: percent agree with that. I love the fact that people

2603
01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:02,120
Speaker 1: don't look Kurt Signetty and this Indiana team is just

2604
01:55:02,160 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 1: like flashes in the pan. They really will. You hear

2605
01:55:05,040 --> 01:55:08,080
Speaker 1: people talking about this college football people, long time observers,

2606
01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:09,760
Speaker 1: people have watched it and talked about it for a

2607
01:55:09,800 --> 01:55:12,160
Speaker 1: long time. They're like, this looks like the Rythmis looks

2608
01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:13,600
Speaker 1: and feels like the real deal.

2609
01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:16,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe Kevin. Did you have Caleb Pool like

2610
01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:19,040
Speaker 4: the audio on Aidan Fisher? Do you want to Yeah,

2611
01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 4: perhaps throw that out there to kind of give a

2612
01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:24,080
Speaker 4: player's perspective on everything we've talked about this more.

2613
01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:24,320
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2614
01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:27,040
Speaker 2: Again, this is the IU linebacker who plays the game.

2615
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 2: Just one thousand miles per Hour came over from JMU.

2616
01:55:30,680 --> 01:55:32,440
Speaker 2: He was asked after the game on Saturday, just kind

2617
01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:34,720
Speaker 2: of about the IU program, where they were before their

2618
01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 2: arrival and now where they're at.

2619
01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:38,840
Speaker 10: Got change the way you think we first got here.

2620
01:55:39,080 --> 01:55:43,400
Speaker 10: All this team new was losing football, and you know,

2621
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:45,120
Speaker 10: We're not used to being in big games. We're used

2622
01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:47,400
Speaker 10: to losing the games and just kind of being like

2623
01:55:47,400 --> 01:55:48,560
Speaker 10: the punching bag of the Big Ten.

2624
01:55:49,400 --> 01:55:50,520
Speaker 1: I think we did a great job. As soon as

2625
01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:50,880
Speaker 1: we got here.

2626
01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:53,400
Speaker 10: We changed away, Indiana. Thanks changed away. You know, we

2627
01:55:53,440 --> 01:55:56,560
Speaker 10: think as individuals, you know, we're prime for games like this.

2628
01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:58,040
Speaker 10: This is why we play this game, That's why we

2629
01:55:58,040 --> 01:56:00,320
Speaker 10: come to Indiana. Do you want to play in top

2630
01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:03,480
Speaker 10: rank matchups? You want to win top rank matchups, and

2631
01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:05,320
Speaker 10: you want to play for somebody like coach sig who's

2632
01:56:05,360 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 10: so confident in himself that it just flows into his players.

2633
01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:10,560
Speaker 10: And I mean this program is that a really good

2634
01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:12,880
Speaker 10: spot right now, just with you know, coach siggat's the

2635
01:56:13,240 --> 01:56:15,560
Speaker 10: helm of it and just how much he believes in

2636
01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:16,480
Speaker 10: his players and how much.

2637
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:16,920
Speaker 1: We believe in him.

2638
01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:17,080
Speaker 6: Now.

2639
01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, last year at training camp, we had Kurt Signetti

2640
01:56:19,880 --> 01:56:24,000
Speaker 2: on and I tried to drop a Will Smith hitch

2641
01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:29,000
Speaker 2: reference with Kurt Signetti. Let's say it didn't land very well,

2642
01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:30,680
Speaker 2: but that's kind of what I was getting at, and

2643
01:56:30,760 --> 01:56:33,880
Speaker 2: Aidan Fisher basically said it there of like you had

2644
01:56:33,920 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 2: to change the way people thought about IU football. And

2645
01:56:38,080 --> 01:56:40,040
Speaker 2: you know, if anybody that watched that movie, Will Smith

2646
01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:44,320
Speaker 2: is trying to, you know, let's change the way you know, look, act,

2647
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:47,680
Speaker 2: you know, move, talk everything when it comes to speaking

2648
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:51,360
Speaker 2: to the opposite sex. So in a way, it was needed.

2649
01:56:51,560 --> 01:56:53,680
Speaker 2: And again it's one thing, I think for your head

2650
01:56:53,720 --> 01:56:56,280
Speaker 2: coach to say it. I think it's another when you

2651
01:56:56,480 --> 01:57:00,520
Speaker 2: drop what five to six quality football player into that

2652
01:57:00,560 --> 01:57:02,480
Speaker 2: locker room and say, hey, guys, this is what it's

2653
01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:05,000
Speaker 2: going to be about, and this is how he acts.

2654
01:57:05,080 --> 01:57:07,040
Speaker 2: And that was needed. Again, I go back to when

2655
01:57:07,080 --> 01:57:09,400
Speaker 2: we had Dan Wetzel, college football writer on or the

2656
01:57:09,400 --> 01:57:12,440
Speaker 2: great writer on a few weeks back. Kurt Signetti was

2657
01:57:12,480 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 2: the right coach for the right situation. It'd be one

2658
01:57:15,080 --> 01:57:16,880
Speaker 2: thing just to hire a winning coach, but like if

2659
01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:20,000
Speaker 2: that winning coach had more of a subdued personality, I

2660
01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:21,800
Speaker 2: don't know if it would have worked to the level

2661
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:27,440
Speaker 2: that Signetti's brash, aggressive, cocky grabbed the mic. I mean,

2662
01:57:27,480 --> 01:57:30,400
Speaker 2: Signetti was appalled his first twenty four hours of the

2663
01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:34,440
Speaker 2: job how people within Indiana University talked about the football program.

2664
01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:36,800
Speaker 2: That's why he went on the mic at the basketball

2665
01:57:36,840 --> 01:57:38,960
Speaker 2: game and said all those things he did. Yeah, he

2666
01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:42,000
Speaker 2: was like, this was not planned, but I was stunned

2667
01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:45,600
Speaker 2: by how people talked about a big tent football program

2668
01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:49,040
Speaker 2: and acted like, yeah, we were the laughing stock in

2669
01:57:49,120 --> 01:57:52,600
Speaker 2: college football. So I thought Idan Fisher's comments postgame there

2670
01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:53,800
Speaker 2: Saturday really stood out.

2671
01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:56,320
Speaker 1: Well. They are number three for reason, coming off a

2672
01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:59,000
Speaker 1: big road win against the Oregon They already beat up

2673
01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:03,240
Speaker 1: on poor James Illinois team and now teams that aren't

2674
01:58:03,240 --> 01:58:06,040
Speaker 1: considered to be top top teams or what's left on

2675
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:08,400
Speaker 1: the schedule. So it's got to take care of business

2676
01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:10,320
Speaker 1: for several weeks now if you want to get yourself

2677
01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:13,720
Speaker 1: where you eventually want to go. Also, rankings review, we

2678
01:58:13,800 --> 01:58:18,640
Speaker 1: turned to your publication The Athletic James the Week seven

2679
01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:22,520
Speaker 1: NFL Power Rankings, and the Indianapolis Colts are number three

2680
01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:25,120
Speaker 1: in the right here right now as we look at

2681
01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:29,200
Speaker 1: it power rankings for the Athletic that's crazy.

2682
01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:30,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to say a start of the year

2683
01:58:30,440 --> 01:58:32,640
Speaker 4: maybe like thirtieth or something like that, So I know

2684
01:58:32,680 --> 01:58:34,120
Speaker 4: we got to hit the brake, but yeah, we can

2685
01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:37,040
Speaker 4: certainly get into that after on the other side of

2686
01:58:37,080 --> 01:58:37,680
Speaker 4: this break here.

2687
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:40,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that the top five teams right now,

2688
01:58:40,360 --> 01:58:43,520
Speaker 1: they've got Tampa Bay number one, the Rams number two,

2689
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:47,160
Speaker 1: the Colts number three, the packers for and the Kansas

2690
01:58:47,200 --> 01:58:49,840
Speaker 1: City Chiefs number five. Those are right here right now,

2691
01:58:49,920 --> 01:58:51,640
Speaker 1: so they can fluctuate a little bit from week to week.

2692
01:58:51,840 --> 01:58:53,960
Speaker 1: Is but we're only six weeks in. But we'll talk

2693
01:58:53,960 --> 01:58:55,600
Speaker 1: about a little bit more next as we continue. In

2694
01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:57,360
Speaker 1: ninety three five and one on seven to five Fan

2695
01:58:59,120 --> 01:59:01,160
Speaker 1: getting ready to finish up on a Tuesday morning. That's

2696
01:59:01,160 --> 01:59:04,080
Speaker 1: twice today, Kevin, had you fool ready to go? I

2697
01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:06,560
Speaker 1: could have jumped in the hallway conversation.

2698
01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:09,080
Speaker 4: I felt like like like a kid or something when

2699
01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:11,760
Speaker 4: you like off when you get the car keys or

2700
01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:13,280
Speaker 4: something like. Man, I could have really just took this

2701
01:59:13,320 --> 01:59:15,480
Speaker 4: thing around the block, freaked everyone out.

2702
01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:17,920
Speaker 2: Coach grabs your helmet, You're in, And then the other

2703
01:59:18,000 --> 01:59:19,840
Speaker 2: guy said, no, no, no, I'm fine, coach, let me go

2704
01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:20,240
Speaker 2: back here.

2705
01:59:20,320 --> 01:59:20,480
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2706
01:59:20,520 --> 01:59:21,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty much how it goes.

2707
01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:23,840
Speaker 1: I did Peyton Manning did it end? Ever? One time,

2708
01:59:23,920 --> 01:59:25,560
Speaker 1: the backup was getting ready to come in. I think

2709
01:59:25,560 --> 01:59:27,560
Speaker 1: it was brought ass Wiler, and all of a sudden,

2710
01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:30,160
Speaker 1: Manning goes, no, no, I'm ready to go. And also, oh,

2711
01:59:30,200 --> 01:59:32,600
Speaker 1: they were blowing somebody out and as Wiler thought he

2712
01:59:32,680 --> 01:59:34,520
Speaker 1: was coming in and all of a sudden Peyton Manning

2713
01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:36,840
Speaker 1: was like, no, I need one more serious and you

2714
01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:40,440
Speaker 1: could literally see aus Weiler his shoulders shrunk and he

2715
01:59:40,520 --> 01:59:40,880
Speaker 1: was just like.

2716
01:59:40,840 --> 01:59:43,360
Speaker 3: Come on, man, that was me. I was gonna have

2717
01:59:43,480 --> 01:59:45,640
Speaker 3: my moment. I was going to have the greatest return

2718
01:59:45,720 --> 01:59:50,600
Speaker 3: speech ever for you all. But I say, for another opportunity.

2719
01:59:51,360 --> 01:59:53,120
Speaker 1: James, you were talking about something he wanted to get

2720
01:59:53,120 --> 01:59:54,520
Speaker 1: to break a minute ago. What was it that you

2721
01:59:54,560 --> 01:59:56,160
Speaker 1: wanted to continue on talking about.

2722
01:59:56,320 --> 01:59:57,800
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I know you talked about you brought the

2723
01:59:57,800 --> 02:00:00,440
Speaker 4: brankings of the Colts in our power rankings at the

2724
02:00:00,480 --> 02:00:02,600
Speaker 4: Athletic them being third, and I just think that that

2725
02:00:02,720 --> 02:00:04,960
Speaker 4: is a conversation we really couldn't get into before the break.

2726
02:00:04,960 --> 02:00:07,480
Speaker 4: But yeah, now we're on the other side of it.

2727
02:00:07,480 --> 02:00:10,080
Speaker 4: It's funny to see how we create these narratives, all

2728
02:00:10,120 --> 02:00:11,640
Speaker 4: these teams thinking and it's like, oh wait a second,

2729
02:00:11,680 --> 02:00:14,480
Speaker 4: they're great and so I guess it's a little bit

2730
02:00:14,520 --> 02:00:17,720
Speaker 4: of our cell was creating our own content there. But

2731
02:00:18,200 --> 02:00:19,840
Speaker 4: I do think when you say the Clats are one

2732
02:00:19,880 --> 02:00:21,880
Speaker 4: of the best teams in the NFL, you have to

2733
02:00:21,920 --> 02:00:26,120
Speaker 4: give that more credence thing you did before and.

2734
02:00:26,120 --> 02:00:28,280
Speaker 3: Which each week, which each week.

2735
02:00:28,120 --> 02:00:30,280
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, You're starting to believe it a bit more,

2736
02:00:30,280 --> 02:00:32,360
Speaker 4: and I think you have another test going out west again.

2737
02:00:32,440 --> 02:00:34,920
Speaker 4: You're a little banged up in your secondary. The Chargers

2738
02:00:34,920 --> 02:00:37,440
Speaker 4: team is also very banged up. But you know, this

2739
02:00:37,640 --> 02:00:41,200
Speaker 4: is a Chargers team that they still have arguably a

2740
02:00:41,200 --> 02:00:43,760
Speaker 4: top five quarterback in the league. They have a coach

2741
02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:47,080
Speaker 4: that wins everywhere. He got right, Yeah, you know what

2742
02:00:47,160 --> 02:00:48,680
Speaker 4: I was thinking that. You know, we could play the

2743
02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:50,480
Speaker 4: audio sometime this week, but I have to go back

2744
02:00:50,480 --> 02:00:52,800
Speaker 4: and check to make sure it's clean for our purposes

2745
02:00:52,880 --> 02:00:56,560
Speaker 4: because over on the their platforms you can be a

2746
02:00:56,600 --> 02:00:58,680
Speaker 4: little more directless.

2747
02:00:58,760 --> 02:01:03,040
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Franklin I mentioned earlier, say though Justin Herbert

2748
02:01:03,120 --> 02:01:05,240
Speaker 2: not the top five quarterback.

2749
02:01:04,920 --> 02:01:07,000
Speaker 4: But he said, and he also said in this podcast

2750
02:01:07,200 --> 02:01:09,520
Speaker 4: he would take Baker may Justin Herbert. And at the

2751
02:01:09,560 --> 02:01:13,240
Speaker 4: time I was like, what, But now is that here?

2752
02:01:13,400 --> 02:01:15,280
Speaker 4: Gotta give him his credit. Baker Mayfield might be the

2753
02:01:15,280 --> 02:01:16,400
Speaker 4: front runner for MVP at THEA.

2754
02:01:16,480 --> 02:01:17,560
Speaker 1: He's balling right now.

2755
02:01:17,600 --> 02:01:21,600
Speaker 2: So every week, yeah, I can't wait for Sunday. And

2756
02:01:21,680 --> 02:01:24,000
Speaker 2: just in general, the culture a bat right have an

2757
02:01:24,040 --> 02:01:27,480
Speaker 2: uptecking competition. That's probably the simplest way to put it.

2758
02:01:27,520 --> 02:01:29,400
Speaker 2: I mean, you look at the final eleven games mentioned

2759
02:01:29,400 --> 02:01:32,520
Speaker 2: this earlier in the show. Eight of those teams currently

2760
02:01:32,640 --> 02:01:35,960
Speaker 2: five hundred or better. Uh, the three games that are

2761
02:01:36,040 --> 02:01:39,440
Speaker 2: not in that position. One will be Tennessee coming up

2762
02:01:39,440 --> 02:01:43,120
Speaker 2: here next Sunday, and then two is Houston, which I

2763
02:01:43,320 --> 02:01:46,440
Speaker 2: don't I think it's probably till early to like slot

2764
02:01:46,640 --> 02:01:49,560
Speaker 2: Houston and Tennessee. I guess this is the easiest way

2765
02:01:49,800 --> 02:01:53,760
Speaker 2: to put it there. Definitely, so the schedule is definitely

2766
02:01:53,800 --> 02:01:56,520
Speaker 2: going to get tougher, but there is a real opportunity

2767
02:01:56,720 --> 02:01:59,080
Speaker 2: for a position group that I think needs a wake

2768
02:01:59,160 --> 02:02:01,440
Speaker 2: up call, and that would be year pass rush. There's

2769
02:02:01,520 --> 02:02:06,080
Speaker 2: a real opportunity. On Sunday again, the Chargers down were

2770
02:02:06,240 --> 02:02:08,840
Speaker 2: down their top four offensive tackles. The fact that they

2771
02:02:08,960 --> 02:02:11,360
Speaker 2: won a football game, they scored twenty nine points in

2772
02:02:11,360 --> 02:02:14,560
Speaker 2: a football game, down their four offensive tackles, not to

2773
02:02:14,560 --> 02:02:17,160
Speaker 2: mention they're leading white out and Quinn Johnson. I mean,

2774
02:02:17,560 --> 02:02:20,600
Speaker 2: just goes to show you who Justin Herbert is and

2775
02:02:20,640 --> 02:02:22,680
Speaker 2: down their two starting running back, both the running backs

2776
02:02:22,720 --> 02:02:26,480
Speaker 2: and Najie Harris, no Marion Hampton. I mean it's Herbert's

2777
02:02:26,520 --> 02:02:30,680
Speaker 2: a special player. And really looking forward to four o'clock

2778
02:02:30,720 --> 02:02:31,120
Speaker 2: on Sunday.

2779
02:02:31,200 --> 02:02:33,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, kid Vidal, the running back that they called up

2780
02:02:34,000 --> 02:02:35,880
Speaker 1: from their practice squad. He had a big day, had

2781
02:02:35,920 --> 02:02:39,200
Speaker 1: a huge day, and he might be a problem for

2782
02:02:39,240 --> 02:02:41,000
Speaker 1: other teams moving forward the way he played.

2783
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a big day. So they have been

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Speaker 2: really pouring the red zone. The Chargers defensively, they've had

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Speaker 2: some issues stop in the run. So you would think

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor could be, you know, kind of feasting on them.

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Speaker 2: And obviously Shane Stikeen's got plenty of connections with the Chargers.

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02:02:57,320 --> 02:03:00,960
Speaker 2: Jim Harball, of course, the head coach there. So Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is a one that I think was always kind

2790
02:03:03,400 --> 02:03:05,120
Speaker 2: of circled on the calendar. I thought it might actually

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02:03:05,160 --> 02:03:07,960
Speaker 2: get flexed into primetime. They elected to keep it in

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Speaker 2: the four o'clock window.

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Speaker 3: But I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for James's travel schedule, definitely, But given the nature

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Speaker 2: of the start of this season, this is one of

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Speaker 2: those games I think, like the Rams game a few

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Speaker 2: weeks ago, you did circle and you might be catching

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Speaker 2: the Chargers on you know, they were in Miami last week.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's a long travel game for them. You know,

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Speaker 2: does that play into your hands at all?

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Speaker 1: Well, that'll be coming up this weekend and when it

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02:03:32,200 --> 02:03:36,240
Speaker 1: comes again to putting points up on the board. Right now,

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Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts are the number one team in the

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Speaker 1: league in scoring one hundred and ninety four points through

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Speaker 1: six games. James, you're talking about offense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the most points they've scored are their

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Speaker 4: first six games since moving to Indianapolis in nine and

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02:03:51,960 --> 02:03:54,920
Speaker 4: eighty four. So we're talking about decades here of them

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02:03:55,440 --> 02:03:59,080
Speaker 4: being an elite offense so far this year and doing

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Speaker 4: it against some pretty good defenses.

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Speaker 3: This isn't against scrubs.

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Speaker 4: I mean again, last week the Arizona Cardinals entered that

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02:04:05,400 --> 02:04:08,240
Speaker 4: game having only given up nineteen point two points per game,

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02:04:08,640 --> 02:04:11,320
Speaker 4: and you still give them thirty plus. So not after

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02:04:11,680 --> 02:04:14,600
Speaker 4: turning the ball over, not starting off great, and then

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02:04:14,600 --> 02:04:16,240
Speaker 4: figuring out a way good points on the board. So

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Speaker 4: this is in office. I think you can, you know, again,

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02:04:19,040 --> 02:04:21,400
Speaker 4: sort of depend on and of the way one of

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Speaker 4: our guys at the Athletic put it. He gave a

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Speaker 4: Shane Stike a lot of credit. Kevin I laughed at this,

2821
02:04:27,960 --> 02:04:30,240
Speaker 4: and Ted Winn is like our film guy at the Athletic,

2822
02:04:30,280 --> 02:04:32,160
Speaker 4: and he loves breaking down tape. We did a piece

2823
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Speaker 4: a couple weeks ago on Shane Stykeen and Daniel Jones,

2824
02:04:34,560 --> 02:04:38,520
Speaker 4: and he said that Shane Stikeen is the league leader

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Speaker 4: in drawing up plays that are WAO, which means wide

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Speaker 4: ass open, So he thinks that he's the best in

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Speaker 4: the league at the WAO category.

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Speaker 1: So true.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it is so true. And I mean NFL Open,

2830
02:04:51,200 --> 02:04:53,800
Speaker 2: which NFL opens different than college open or high school Open.

2831
02:04:53,960 --> 02:04:56,520
Speaker 2: And Shane stikeing, Yeah, he's in his bag. I believe

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02:04:56,520 --> 02:04:58,640
Speaker 2: the kids would say yes. So yeah, ten for ten

2833
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Speaker 2: in the reds one the last two weeks. I hope

2834
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Speaker 2: that resonates with people just how astonishing that mark is.

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Speaker 2: They are ten of ten and their opponents, if you

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Speaker 2: want to take it a step further, I believe they're

2837
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Speaker 2: three of ten. So you look at these last two games,

2838
02:05:13,920 --> 02:05:16,440
Speaker 2: you know you can do the math seven versus three points.

2839
02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:20,080
Speaker 2: When you're seven trips into the red zone better than

2840
02:05:20,120 --> 02:05:22,760
Speaker 2: your opponent, what's seven times four, it's a twenty eight

2841
02:05:22,800 --> 02:05:25,320
Speaker 2: point difference. I mean that's a big, big number when

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Speaker 2: you talk about two games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then also when you're talking about points, the

2844
02:05:28,920 --> 02:05:31,280
Speaker 1: point differential, they are far and away number one in

2845
02:05:31,280 --> 02:05:33,400
Speaker 1: the league at plus seventy eight. So if you want

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Speaker 1: to talk about the schedule being the easier side of

2847
02:05:36,040 --> 02:05:38,600
Speaker 1: it in this first half, that's fine. But they're doing

2848
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Speaker 1: what good teams are supposed to do to bad teams, James,

2849
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Speaker 1: and they're winning football games.

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 4: I do think we can pushes ahead a bin. Talk

2852
02:05:45,640 --> 02:05:48,880
Speaker 4: about this more tomorrow. But Kevin, are you concerned about

2853
02:05:48,880 --> 02:05:51,160
Speaker 4: the defense? And I threw that question that Shane and

2854
02:05:51,160 --> 02:05:52,640
Speaker 4: he was like, Oh, we had a bunch of guys

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Speaker 4: that were out. Those guys stepped up, but this it

2856
02:05:55,720 --> 02:05:57,680
Speaker 4: wasn't just a one week thing. I still think this

2857
02:05:57,760 --> 02:05:59,600
Speaker 4: defense is given up way too many yards on a

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Speaker 4: week to week basis, and that's something that you can't

2859
02:06:01,480 --> 02:06:04,840
Speaker 4: missilely ignore because you lost Mooney War now before the game.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I am concerned because it's not just a corner issue.

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02:06:07,320 --> 02:06:10,600
Speaker 2: It's issues you've been vested a lot into. And again,

2862
02:06:10,680 --> 02:06:13,320
Speaker 2: competent quarterbacks are about to be showing up on the

2863
02:06:13,320 --> 02:06:15,640
Speaker 2: schedule more than they have been. We'll see the new

2864
02:06:15,680 --> 02:06:18,520
Speaker 2: cycle today, whether Jake whether John. At some point today,

2865
02:06:18,560 --> 02:06:20,879
Speaker 2: I would expect the Colts to sign a quarterback, so

2866
02:06:20,880 --> 02:06:22,880
Speaker 2: certainly keep an eye out for that and we'll see

2867
02:06:22,880 --> 02:06:25,440
Speaker 2: if any more on Mooney Ward Chain psych and didn't

2868
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Speaker 2: have any update on him and his concussion status.

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Speaker 1: don't want to mislead you. Louke Gerrig was a first baseman,

2873
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Speaker 1: not a center fielder, So just so you have the

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Speaker 1: complete history lesson there. You can go google some of

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