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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Best of the Fan morning show

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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan. Hey,

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Speaker 1: very quickly type the word fairway. There was a change

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Speaker 1: last night I was not aware of until now. So

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Speaker 1: it's it's fairway is the keyword today, not golf. Golf

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Speaker 1: would have been the word last night, but fairway this morning. James,

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Speaker 1: you want to get the forty dollars off of for

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Speaker 1: some fairway at two three nine, ten seventy.

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Speaker 2: So you want to explain that a little bit further,

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Speaker 2: so you you.

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Speaker 3: Text that in.

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Speaker 1: You just text it in. You type the word fairway

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Speaker 1: and it'll send you a bounce back message where you

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Speaker 1: can get your discount.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, if you want to see us at

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Speaker 2: the Fan Golf outing and get a discount, make sure

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Speaker 2: you do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so looking forward to that, and that'll be again

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Speaker 1: April the thirtieth, and we're all going to be there.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be outstanding and it'll be a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun. In the meantime, well, I'll be watching TV tonight,

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Speaker 1: I know, unless you want to fly out there to

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Speaker 1: San Jose, Caleb, it'll be sweet sixteen tonight, seven to

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Speaker 1: ten per due taking on the eleven seed Texas Longhorns,

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Speaker 1: and I liked people that don't worry about seeds at

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Speaker 1: this point in time. If somebody's made it through the

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Speaker 1: first four and a couple of tournament games, they're probably

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Speaker 1: feeling pretty good about themselves right now.

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Speaker 2: James, Yes, and for one understand, weren't you on the

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Speaker 2: West coast recently? Couldn't you have stayed out there and

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Speaker 2: done a little like you know, for you guys, I

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Speaker 2: appreciate this.

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Speaker 1: I was in the southern California, not northern Califoria.

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Speaker 2: You know me all, I have not been to California

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Speaker 2: many times. The very big state.

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Speaker 3: I say, at California, I think it's all the same.

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Speaker 1: It's a long dry It's closer to go to Chicago

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Speaker 1: from here than it is to go from LA to

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Speaker 1: San Francisco. Makes sense, all right, So we got that

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Speaker 1: going on today. But San Jose is where Purdue is

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Speaker 1: playing tonight, and they'll try to keep it rolling. And

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Speaker 1: like I said, I'm pretty sure that Matt Painter has

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Speaker 1: made his guys aware that forget about seeds at this

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Speaker 1: point in time. We just got to play a pretty

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Speaker 1: hot basketball team.

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Speaker 2: I do want to know again, status of CJ. Cox.

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Speaker 2: Are you the guy we saw in the first half

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Speaker 2: of the last game where you're able to hit some

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Speaker 2: big shots and even beyond that, I think he's one

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Speaker 2: of the better perimeter defenders. Oh yeah, and without perhaps

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Speaker 2: the mobility because of your knee, can you still play

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Speaker 2: a winning brand of basketball if you're compromised? So I'm

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Speaker 2: very curious to see how he is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the open practice yesterday, based off some

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Speaker 4: reports I saw from people that were out there at

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Speaker 4: San Jose, they did say he was doing some lateral.

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Speaker 3: Movement and some cutting with that.

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Speaker 4: Now, I'm judging by the few open practices I've been

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Speaker 4: to in my NCAA tournament history life, I can't imagine

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Speaker 4: it was full full throttle in those open you know minutes.

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Speaker 4: But nonetheless, at least he's moving, at least he's on

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Speaker 4: the floor, at least he's wearing, you know, a a

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Speaker 4: practice jersey. So yeah, definitely that will be a big,

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Speaker 4: big item to watch again. Jordan Pope, one of Texas's

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Speaker 4: more dynamic guards. He got hurt late in the win

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Speaker 4: over Gonzaga with an ankle injury. There were some questions

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Speaker 4: for Sean Miller about that yesterday, so you know a

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Speaker 4: couple of injury related items certainly to keep an eye

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Speaker 4: on coming up tonight.

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Speaker 2: And just real quick, you know we talk about this Jordan.

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Speaker 2: Oh guy, he can play, I mean Jordan popem Sorry,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he can shoot game as well. Yeah, he can

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Speaker 3: shoot it, man.

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Speaker 2: So he's somebody who you definitely know of on the

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Speaker 2: scouting report because if you leave him open, just get

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, I know that the over under is

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Speaker 1: Texas comes in averaging eighty three points a game perdue

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Speaker 1: eighty two points a game. I know the defense is

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Speaker 1: an up and down, fast tempo everybody making three's game tonight, Kevin.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't Texas probably got to show me a little

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Speaker 4: get this. Hey, Texas has won a couple games in tournament,

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Speaker 4: and I understand you know, their roster is definitely not

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Speaker 4: let's not act like, you know, this is the whatever

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Speaker 4: I totally understand that, you know, the line is whatever,

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Speaker 3: It's not like.

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Speaker 4: Vegas is expecting some absolute route here. You know, again,

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Speaker 4: how does Braden Smith react to last game? You know,

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Speaker 4: if you look at his career a bit oddly, I mean,

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Speaker 4: how many games is Bradensmith played one hundred and forty

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Speaker 4: some games? I believe the three highest turnover games of

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Speaker 4: his entire career have all occurred in the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 4: You know, fairly, I think it was fairly Dickinson and

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Speaker 4: then McNeice last year, and then of course, you know

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Speaker 4: at this point UCLA, I didn't think he was great,

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Speaker 4: Then against Michigan the next day he was outtanning. And

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Speaker 4: you know again last year against Houston he was really good.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I'm just curious, like Kevin, you are correct,

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Speaker 2: by the way, all three are in the NCAA tournament, turnovers,

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Speaker 2: eight turnovers and seven turnovers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so just you and me again.

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Speaker 4: I know McNeice kind of known for their defense, but

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Speaker 4: you would think over one hundred and thirty forty games

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Speaker 4: you'd have something in the regular season that would fall

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Speaker 4: but you know, I think Braids must have been super

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Speaker 4: I know we played audio, you know, before Senior Day

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Speaker 4: and explaining you know, I get legacy, and I get

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Speaker 4: what I and we have accomplished, and I know what

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Speaker 4: is the one thing missing? So does any of that

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Speaker 4: and closer where you know I described it to start

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Speaker 4: If you are a Purdue fan, it's great you obviously

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Speaker 4: and you know, I think it'll be very very mixed

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Speaker 3: Him after that.

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Speaker 4: But you know, at one point Shane Sumters asking Chad Buchanan,

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Speaker 4: you know, can you help me with you know, getting

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Speaker 4: And now here we are and he's the most decorated

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Speaker 1: And as you would guess, the numbers back it up too.

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Speaker 1: And this is no shock to anybody, but especially this

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Speaker 1: And I know Texas, for example, they averaged over ten

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Speaker 1: So if you can take care of basketball and get

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Speaker 2: And I'm curious, you know how many turnovers Purdue is everything.

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Speaker 2: But nevertheless, you make a good point. I think in

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Speaker 2: this is happens every year in March. Mad is to

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just inevitable. So you don't want to

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Speaker 2: give those opportunities for like the Herculean moment or something

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Speaker 4: I asked you guys before the break, bringing it back

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Speaker 4: to Ronald Norid and Butler to kind of rank where

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Speaker 4: you would put this question I have for Ronald nored

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Speaker 4: how much do you view your job as raising money?

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Speaker 4: Like in the hierarchy of your job, X and O's

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Speaker 4: day and age, had a coach here from a Division

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Speaker 4: one school in the state listening. Thank you very much

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Speaker 4: for listening. Text me during the break. Raising money is

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Speaker 4: easily number one for all coaches.

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Speaker 3: Easily. It's just a it's just a new day and age.

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Speaker 3: Totally new day and age.

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Speaker 4: And you know, again, if you're kind of waning, Okay,

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Speaker 4: Ronald nora ad first time head coach. He's coaching college

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Speaker 4: basketball for what like one year in northern Kentucky. I think, Jeff,

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Speaker 4: when you went through his bio yesterday, like there's a

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Speaker 4: lot of questions from that aspect of it. I think

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Speaker 4: one area where you don't question nora d is energy,

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Speaker 4: the ability to connect with people. And I think if

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Speaker 4: whatever debating whether or not they should be giving money

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Speaker 4: to the Butler program, certainly Winston Losses will ultimately get

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Speaker 4: the true back pockets to be you know, forty nine

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Speaker 4: to I don't know, change people's minds, but you know, wow,

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Speaker 4: I want to follow that guy. I want to believe

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Speaker 4: in that, I want to lead that. I want to

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Speaker 4: buy a full season ticket package. You know those sorts

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Speaker 4: of things. I do think Nora Ed brings an energy

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Speaker 2: How much do you think he has to prepare for

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Speaker 2: those types of I don't want to call it like

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Speaker 2: elevator pitches or speeches, but it's a different game for

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Speaker 2: him too, sure Like I think he has a trace

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Speaker 4: I think it's a little naturally organic to him. But James,

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Speaker 4: to your point, I do think that's that's that's different.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you come from a world where in the

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Speaker 2: NBA you're not worried about what the contracts are and

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Speaker 2: raising money for certain things. The salary cap is what

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Speaker 2: it is, and the owner decides who they want to pay.

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Speaker 2: So it's just a different landscape, but one where if

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Speaker 2: you can do it right, you can thrive. But that's

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Speaker 2: the question, can you do it right? And can you

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Speaker 2: do it at Butler like you can hang on to

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Speaker 2: your glory days. I know you talked about it here, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: and I think the good, big selling point is that

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Speaker 2: you were the man, one of the men who made

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Speaker 1: Can does that even work?

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Speaker 3: No, that's a legitimate question.

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Speaker 2: Because I read a piece about Utah State and how

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Speaker 5: He In the NBA you have Kawhi Leonard salary cap

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Speaker 1: All right, coming up in a minute, we'll talk to

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Speaker 4: I don't know if Kelly Crosscoff has children, but I

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Speaker 1: You could, but because also I believe they're gonna they're

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Speaker 1: see what's out there? Doesn't feel like it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if you look at I think at Keemen.

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Speaker 4: Gillaspie from The Star had some reports and other candidates

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Speaker 4: and and you know he pretty much mentioned the what

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Speaker 4: Michael Shrewsbury, John Gross's, Chris Holtman's of the world, Travis

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Speaker 4: Seale doesn't really sound like was much of a thought.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, Butler and uh and the family seemed to

446
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Speaker 4: be the other candidates there.

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Speaker 1: All right, And we will talk to Chris CapCo, the

448
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Speaker 1: brand new head coach of ball State, coming up at

449
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Speaker 1: nine thirty this morning, and they get his thoughts on

450
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Speaker 1: taking over little maction for him. See how that goes.

451
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Speaker 1: What else can we tell you about Major League Baseball

452
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Speaker 1: had one single game on opening Day? Do we like

453
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Speaker 1: one single game, Caleb on Opening Day?

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Speaker 5: Now, Opening Day should be all games starting at one

455
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Speaker 5: o'clock and four o'clock, and they should all be happening

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Speaker 5: on one day.

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Speaker 3: And there's baseball everywhere.

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Speaker 5: And so I didn't I didn't watch any of the

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Speaker 5: Netflix special last night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and unless the Reds are playing the Yankees or

461
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Speaker 1: it's the postseason, I don't want the Yankees on my television.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be.

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Speaker 5: Honest that it's gonna be a tough sell to a

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Speaker 5: lot of America because they do bring in the eyeballs.

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Speaker 1: But but anyway, the Yankees did have a nice day.

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Speaker 1: Max Freed six and the third innings of two hit baseball,

467
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Speaker 1: and the Yankees shut out the Giants seven to nothing,

468
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Speaker 1: although Aaron Judge had a rough day James Oh for

469
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Speaker 1: five with four strikeouts. Not Aaron Judge like.

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Speaker 2: Say that World Baseball Classic Aaron Judge postseason, Aaron Judge

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Speaker 2: showing up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's been it's been a long time. If

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Speaker 1: you go back to the postseason last year in the

474
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Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic and now the opening day, Aaron's in

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a slump, isn't he. He's gonna

476
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Speaker 1: have to find something the bust that slump. Also, Indians

477
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Speaker 1: will open their season tomorrow night at home against Saint Paul.

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Speaker 1: That one starts at six thirty five. Anything else you

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Speaker 1: guys want to throw in this morning before we head on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, n T final four set.

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Speaker 4: They'll be playing inside a Hinkle coming up a week

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Speaker 4: from tonight, and then the championship game will be inside

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Speaker 4: a Gambridge Fieldhouse at a Sunday afternoon. So next Sunday

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Speaker 4: afternoon you'll have D two D three National champions crown

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Speaker 4: and the n it'll be Auburn.

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Speaker 3: What was that?

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Speaker 4: Were they the first out? Stephen Pearls Auburn Tigers. I mean,

488
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Speaker 4: there's so much debate about, you know, Bruce Pearl and

489
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Speaker 4: all that. I'm trying to think of how they.

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Speaker 1: They were right there one of the two fors ranked.

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Speaker 3: I remember Indiana.

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Speaker 4: I think it was the fourth out Auburn, Illinois State.

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Speaker 4: That is one side of a semi final and the

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Speaker 4: New Mexico and Tulsa the other side. So again that's

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Speaker 4: at Hinkle coming up a week from tonight.

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Speaker 1: All right, coming up at a moment, we'll have the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to talk to Jordan Cornett. He covers college basketball.

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Speaker 1: Of course, played for your team at one point in time.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, the shaved heads at the rcaaight home in

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Speaker 4: the two thousand and three NCAA Tournament and Jordan Cornett's

501
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Speaker 4: defensive efforts off the bench to beat Bruce Pearl and

502
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Speaker 4: the fighting. Look at this, it's full circle beating UW Milwaukee.

503
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Speaker 4: It's one of the more underrated moments in Notre Dame

504
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Speaker 4: basketball history. And then they beat Illinois. Sorry, James Boyd.

505
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Speaker 4: They beat Illinois in the round of thirty two and

506
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Speaker 4: made it to the Sweet sixteen. Ryan Bowen and I

507
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Speaker 4: going nuts from the nosebleeds in the RCAM.

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Speaker 1: It's like it happened yesterday for him, Jake.

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Speaker 4: I can hear the ill I and I chance ringing

510
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Speaker 4: in my ears.

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Speaker 3: But yet in the final few minutes of that game, crickets.

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Speaker 2: What all worries come to? Some furniture moving up in

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Speaker 2: here with ring commercial.

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Speaker 4: Break, Come on, coach Chris Thomas, shaved head, torn, Francis,

515
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Speaker 4: Matt Carroll, Danny Miller.

516
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Speaker 3: Lost Arizona in Sweet sixteen. But that was a fun ride.

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Speaker 1: We might just get out of the way and let

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Speaker 1: Kevin and Jordan's just chop it up for a few minutes.

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Speaker 3: Wait the ink, James would not be bad.

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Speaker 6: All right.

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Speaker 4: Jordan Cornett's perfect guest. He was on the West with

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Speaker 4: one call for Purdue and Miami. Obviously he's got ties

523
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Speaker 4: to the Hencklefield House with his brother. And you know,

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Speaker 4: if I can, if I can, I ask him one

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Speaker 4: noted en basketball question, you guys, let me hear you man, Yes,

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Speaker 4: I can wait till the end, but can you let

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Speaker 4: me do one?

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Speaker 1: That's okay? Thank all right? Kevin will anxiously await the

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Speaker 1: upcoming conversation with Jordan Cornett. It's a brief time out

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Speaker 1: here at ninety three five and one O seven five

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Speaker 1: the fan, Happy Sweet sixteen day. Here at ninety three

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Speaker 1: five and one O seven to five the Fan Purdue

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Speaker 1: gets going seven to ten tonight in San Jose against

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Speaker 1: the Texas Longhorns, and we bring in our next guest,

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Speaker 1: happy to talk to him, looking forward to Kevin's really

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Speaker 1: looking forward to it, of course. Jordan Cornett, former Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame player. Now you can hear him, see him everywhere

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Speaker 1: on your TV and radio, most with Westwood One covering

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Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament, and he is on the pay Listeners

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Speaker 1: hotline as we speak. Good morning, Jordan Cornett.

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Speaker 6: How you doing, guys. It's a great day to be alive.

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Speaker 6: More college basketball on the docket as we get ready

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Speaker 6: to start to send some teams to a final four.

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Speaker 6: I'm doing great. It's great to be on with you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Well, we are very happy to have you on here.

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Speaker 1: And we'll just start off with a kind of a

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Speaker 1: ten thousand foot look at Purdue right now. They've won

548
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Speaker 1: six games in a row. They look a lot more

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Speaker 1: like the team that was the preseason number one, really

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Speaker 1: struggled in February. What do you think has been the

551
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Speaker 1: big turnaround from in the last four weeks for this team.

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Speaker 6: It's been very clear, Fellaws. It's been defense. Their commitment

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Speaker 6: to defending on that side of the floor. It's meant

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Speaker 6: everything to a group that was in a free fall truthfully,

555
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Speaker 6: towards the end of the regular season, got to Chicago

556
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Speaker 6: for the Big Ten Tournament and really discovered that hey,

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Speaker 6: if we locked in rotationally, defensively, protect the rim, takeaway

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Speaker 6: transition from the opposition, we can go play. Especially with

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Speaker 6: the core group that they have returning I mean, this

560
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Speaker 6: was the preseason number one in all of college basketball.

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Speaker 6: There was a reason for that. People looked at the

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Speaker 6: personnel on the roster and said, this team has the

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Speaker 6: best chance to win a national championship. That's what the

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Speaker 6: experts felt starting the season. And so now that they've

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Speaker 6: gotten back to guarding with the high level commitment there,

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Speaker 6: that personnel remains unchanged. They've gotten the personnel now with

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Speaker 6: how they're defending to go potentially win a national championship.

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Speaker 6: Brayden Smith was not good last time out. He's got

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Speaker 6: to be way better with the basketball. He's got to

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Speaker 6: be more decisive, he has to be more impactful. But

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Speaker 6: Fletcher Lawyer's shooting the basketball at a high rate right now.

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Speaker 6: Trey Coffin Rand knows exactly who he is. Oscar Kluff

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Speaker 6: has been written protecting CJ. Cox played great for this group,

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Speaker 6: knocking down shots last time out. There a connected group, Jordan.

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Speaker 2: I know you mentioned Trey Kaufman Wren there and I

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Speaker 2: can't sit up here in act like he's some unknown

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Speaker 2: player around the country. But he took a step backprep

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Speaker 2: from a production standpoint because of the arrival of Oscar Cluff.

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Speaker 2: What have you seen from him over the last few games,

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Speaker 2: especially come turn and time, I've.

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Speaker 6: Seen a team commitment to establishing him on a low

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Speaker 6: block and allowing him to score in isolation. Guys, this

583
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Speaker 6: has been a look. Oscar Cluff provides a great deal.

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Speaker 6: He's a bully on the backboard. He's a lumberjack with

585
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Speaker 6: old man's strength that protects the rim. He runs the

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Speaker 6: floor well, he's a great he's a great energy guy.

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Speaker 6: But he's been producing offensively down the stretch. But when

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Speaker 6: you need a bucket down low, you go to a

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Speaker 6: poor man's Carl Malone in the college basketball game in

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Speaker 6: Trey Kaufman rin and he's been delivering time and time again.

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Speaker 6: I mean, they're blueprint to success. At least in the

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Speaker 6: first weekend which I was able to be there in

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Speaker 6: Saint Louis's watch was give him the ball on the

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Speaker 6: low block and let him cook. He's also been great

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Speaker 6: in the short role. As you guys know, you'll never

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Speaker 6: see him shoot a set jump shot. It's always that

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Speaker 6: little one one one armed floater offering from around the

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Speaker 6: free throw lining in, but he's mastered it. He's been

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Speaker 6: great the pick and roll. He's been great catcher on

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Speaker 6: the low block. He's been good on a backboard. When

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Speaker 6: you look at him, when you look at Lawyer, when

602
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Speaker 6: you look at Smith, it's three guys that understand the

603
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Speaker 6: finality of it all. This is it. I mean, who

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Speaker 6: has ever brought a team in that is lost to

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Speaker 6: a sixteen seed and has also lost in a national

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Speaker 6: title game. That's the experience those three guys present.

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Speaker 3: That's a voice.

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Speaker 4: Jordan Cornette, as he said, Westwood want he was on

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Speaker 4: the call for purduing Miami over the weekend, and obviously

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Speaker 4: you see him in a variety of different platforms during

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Speaker 4: the college basketball season.

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Speaker 3: I do want to go to Butler here for a second. Jordan,

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Speaker 3: we see the higher ye yesterday talk about it of

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Speaker 3: Ronald Nored.

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Speaker 4: Obviously your family plenty of ties to that Butler program.

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Speaker 4: What do you make of maybe the state of their

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Speaker 4: program within the Big East in this current landscape, and

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Speaker 4: how do you view Ronald Nored injecting some I would argue,

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Speaker 4: much needed fuel into that program.

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Speaker 6: You know what it is, it's a full facelift that

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Speaker 6: is going on right there. And uh with this Butler,

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Speaker 6: this Butler, this Butler program. They look that Mota is

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Speaker 6: is was everything to Butler was a lot to college basketball.

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Speaker 6: Was a class guy with a ridiculous resume that won

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Speaker 6: a ton. But it was clear that this was a stopgap.

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Speaker 6: Higher with that who just has a great love for

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Speaker 6: Butler and was you know, serving the school and until

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Speaker 6: they found their future guy that would be there for

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Speaker 6: a long time. That guy's Ronald. Excuse me, guys, that

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Speaker 6: guy's Ronald. Ronald is such a brilliant basketball mind, such

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Speaker 6: a great guy in terms of connection to team and

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Speaker 6: feel a pulse for his guys. He's ran a group

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Speaker 6: in the G League. He's been in a high level

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Speaker 6: assistant most recently with the Atlanta Hawks. But he understands

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Speaker 6: that the Butler chip and what makes that engine go,

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Speaker 6: what fuels that program, how to recruit what pockets where

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Speaker 6: they can win this here's a home run Higher and

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Speaker 6: they needed to get it right. And with that has

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Speaker 6: cover a renewed sense of commitment financially from the athletic

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Speaker 6: department to put them in position to compete in the

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Speaker 6: Big East, which is paramount. I mean, you can have

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Speaker 6: the greatest coach, but if you don't have an athletic

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Speaker 6: department commitment financially, you don't have a shot. Well, all

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Speaker 6: that's coming together for Butler right now, and I would

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Speaker 6: say by on the Butler Bulldogs early, because Ronald Nora

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Speaker 6: is going to get them where they need to go.

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Speaker 4: Jordan, one of my fondest memories growing up. I am

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Speaker 4: an absolute Notre Dame basketball sicko.

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Speaker 6: I love it.

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Speaker 4: I love it thirteen years old with my brother in

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Speaker 4: the nosebleeds of the RCAA Dome and the shaved heads

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Speaker 4: and people forget about your contributions off the bench to

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Speaker 4: upset or not upset, to get through Bruce Pearl and

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Speaker 4: UW Milwaukee and then beat the fighting line. I there

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Speaker 4: in round two. Just the greatest memories in the RCAA

656
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 4: Dome watching the Irish Torn Francis, Chris Thomas, Dan Miller,

657
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 4: Matt Carroll, etc.

658
00:29:58,680 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: Get it done and go to the Sweet sixteen.

659
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 6: Let go.

660
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 4: So I set up all of that to say, where

661
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 4: are we at right now at the Notre Day men's

662
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 4: basketball program. I am in a very nervous period as

663
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 4: a fan right now. I'm nervous about their survival thrival,

664
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 4: however you want to put it, in this current climate.

665
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 4: I was a big believer in Michael Shrewsbury but certainly

666
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 4: there are a lot of people that would have evidence

667
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 4: to point otherwise. With me, right now, how should I

668
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 4: feel about the future of the men's basketball program in

669
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 4: South Then.

670
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 6: Well, Kevin, let's start with I mean you rattling off

671
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 6: all those names you were calling the path through Indianapolis

672
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 6: for our group. I will jump on this show at

673
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 6: one point thirty in the morning if you guys meet

674
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 6: me to.

675
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go, Jordan, come on, let's go on.

676
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 6: Man. That's how you get a guest forever.

677
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 3: Didn't you have a now, Craig mevom.

678
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 4: Didn't you have a huge defensive play and or block

679
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 4: late in that UW Milwaukee game?

680
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I got. I got caught on the exchange with

681
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 6: Torri and Jones and we altered the shot that would

682
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 6: have been the game winning layout and I had, Yeah,

683
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 6: I did have a block a couple of sequences before

684
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 6: that game. But you know who remembers, right, I do?

685
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 6: I do? I do?

686
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, And my wife's thrilled that I remember that.

687
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, that is It's funny what you can remember

688
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 6: which can't bring back the groceries. But here on Notre Dame.

689
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 6: The thing about Notre Dame right now, I'm getting a

690
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 6: lot of you know, calls and texts from people who

691
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 6: care about the program, because there are people that care

692
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 6: about things outside of Notre Dame football. I mean, it's

693
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 6: a lot of alumni too. Obviously, it needed it needed

694
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 6: to and it needs to burn down. The roster that

695
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 6: they currently have was not going to compete for a

696
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 6: tournament berth. They just they weren't going to be there.

697
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 6: So there needed to be a level of embarrassment that

698
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 6: came this past year for the athletic Department of Notre

699
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 6: Dame to look in the mirror and say, hey, if

700
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 6: we don't provide better financial support, this is what it's

701
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 6: going to look like and worse every single season moving forward.

702
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 6: Can kea Shrewsbury coach. Absolutely guy won at Penn State.

703
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 6: He's been part of the Celtics, part of produce staffs like,

704
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 6: he understands what it is, he understands the X and

705
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 6: o's at a high level. He's still feeling out Notre

706
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 6: Dame and understanding the shortcomings the obstacles that come with

707
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 6: the job. It's not one of the sexiest basketball jobs

708
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 6: right now because of the lack of institutional support. He's

709
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 6: going to start to get more of that. Everyone understands

710
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 6: the monster that notreame football is. I mean, they're going

711
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 6: to be chasing around fifty million dollars to feel the

712
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 6: national championship contending team, So every dollar's going there. Well,

713
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 6: now the athletic department has to figure out how some

714
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 6: of that money can go to a budget that's not

715
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 6: going to compete in acc basketball or on the national scale.

716
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 6: Give it a little bit more, and now they will

717
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 6: because we simply won't have a roster. There's seven guys

718
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 6: in the transfer portal. We won't have a team next

719
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 6: year unless they commit to spending money and go grabbing guys.

720
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 6: So that number will move considerably. I know that for

721
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,239
Speaker 6: fact being in those conversations, can't share what that number is,

722
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 6: but it's gonna look different. So now it's incumbent upon

723
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 6: that staff to go recruit and to go bring in guys,

724
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 6: not just high level incoming freshmen, because it's a man's

725
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 6: game now with the transfer portal, go get guys who

726
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 6: are rising sophomores, rising juniors and put together a group.

727
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 6: I think everybody knows that this seat is hot for

728
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 6: coach Shrewsbury right now. And if the results look like

729
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 6: they have these last few years. I'd say, short of

730
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 6: a tournament Berth, there's gonna be some real conversations there.

731
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 6: And then coach Michael Shrewsbury knows that, and that is

732
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 6: not a knock on his coaching ability. The guy can coach.

733
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 6: He just needs more support within the institution.

734
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: Who's having more fun than you right now watching college

735
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: basketball from courtside?

736
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, this is the best time of the year.

737
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 6: I think you guys know the past with my brother,

738
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 6: the tragic loss of my big brother Joey and twenty sixteen,

739
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 6: and one of the coolest moments of my life was

740
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 6: in two thousand and three Kevin Mention and that Notre

741
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 6: Dame team as a five seed that got to the

742
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 6: second weekend when my brother's group at Butler had an

743
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 6: improbable run themselves getting to the sweet sixteen in that season,

744
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 6: and that's where my brother famously coined the phrase we

745
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 6: are still here to the haters out there. And I

746
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 6: think it was Ben Holland who said that Butler didn't

747
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,479
Speaker 6: belong in the tournament and a power conference team should

748
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 6: be there. And all they did was topple two Power

749
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 6: conference teams to get there and he reminded everybody, because

750
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 6: he was the son of a bee, said, We're still

751
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 6: here for all those who didn't think we belonged. And

752
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 6: so this tournament provided a forever memory, a phrase that

753
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 6: fuels our foundation, the Joel Cornett Foundation, and our wristbands

754
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 6: and in everything we do, we are still here. Well,

755
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 6: the genesis of that was this tournament and me and

756
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 6: him being in the second weekend and my dad flying

757
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 6: to meet my mom in Rochester where my brother played,

758
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 6: and then flying that same day to get out to

759
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 6: California to watch me that evening, and the moments that

760
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 6: came with that. So I will forever work in this

761
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 6: sin CAA tournament because for those days, on those game days,

762
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 6: and I could get emotional here on the phone. I

763
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 6: feel like my brothers climbed down the stairs from having

764
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 6: to sit there with me to do those games. And

765
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 6: oh gosh, guys, the goosebumps it provides. And my wife,

766
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 6: because she's not only a superstar on the MIC with

767
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 6: the first Take show out there in New York City,

768
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 6: but she understands that. And every year my young kids

769
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 6: come out with her at whatever side I'm at, and

770
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 6: it's a family affair, and this one will be in

771
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 6: Chicago for this week and they'll be here with me.

772
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 6: So it's awesome. Guys, I didn't know. You probably did't

773
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 6: expect that loaded of an answer, But the reality is

774
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 6: there's nothing in sports I would rather do than this.

775
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 4: Tournament, Jordan, If I could add one thing, First off,

776
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 4: I get chills every time Butler plays the pregame intro

777
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 4: and your brother pops up on that screen and says

778
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 4: those very words, and you just shared with us.

779
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 3: But I also had this.

780
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 4: I went to Butler basketball camp growing up, and I

781
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 4: will never forget playing in the West Gym and your

782
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 4: brother was my and I was a very mediocre basketball player,

783
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 4: and I took one of the softest charges you've ever seen.

784
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 4: It should have been a block, one thousand percent. And

785
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 4: when your brother blew his whistle and put his hand

786
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 4: behind his head and pointed the other way that it

787
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 4: was a charge and picked me up off the floor

788
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 4: and slapped me, you know, on the you know what

789
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 4: to say, what a charge?

790
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, can you believe that? That was unreal?

791
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 4: I think about that way too often, so uh, it

792
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 4: was an unbelievable memory for a young kid, and thank

793
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 4: you to Joel for providing that phone.

794
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 6: Man that uh that gets me, that gets me emotional. Man.

795
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 6: He had his death for life, and he loved people

796
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 6: and he loved the game, and he loved the effort,

797
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 6: and he loved cheering for people. He was just for

798
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 6: those who knew him, and it's probably some of those

799
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 6: out there listening to the show right now. He is.

800
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 6: He was. He was. He was a one of one

801
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 6: guy man, and I always looked up to him because

802
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 6: you could walk the streets here in Chicago, Connecticut where

803
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 6: I live at the campus in Notre Dame, and there's

804
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 6: gonna be some people to be like, oh that cornet guy,

805
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 6: what a what a bomb? What a punky was? Or

806
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 6: this or that? And there's not a place you go

807
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 6: where my brother once once roamed where you wouldn't hear

808
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 6: nothing but great things. He just loves people, saw the

809
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 6: best in everybody, and it was all about maximizing a

810
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 6: day with fun. Maybe not with the hardest work in

811
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 6: that day or checking off the boxes he needed to,

812
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 6: but my man was gonna have fun and he was

813
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 6: going to lean into people. And I think we could

814
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 6: use a lot more of that in the world today.

815
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 6: No matter, you know, how you feel on the a

816
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 6: potential war, or on immigration or on this or that. Like,

817
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 6: my brother just loves people. And I think this part

818
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 6: of the year makes me remember like what's right and

819
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 6: what's good, and that was him. And you know, guys,

820
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 6: I'm over here waxing poetical, but you guys got me

821
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 6: talking about it, man, and I just, uh, he was special.

822
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 6: He was just a good person. So I think for

823
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 6: everybody out there, like smile today, have funs, that's what

824
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 6: my brother would be doing. I feel I'm still here

825
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 6: and he is still here with us.

826
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna get me emotional, Jordan, thank you.

827
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, I appreciate you guys bringing him up. Everybody

828
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 6: everybody always goes. You know, I'm sorry to mention this,

829
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 6: but I loved your brother. I'm like, don't be sorry

830
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 6: to shoot. I love hearing all those kind of stories.

831
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 6: And that's that's what it's about. This time of the

832
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 6: year is the best. It's all about the emotions of

833
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 6: the tournament and and you know, careers being made, careers ending,

834
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 6: the emotions and a high level stuff that goes into this.

835
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 6: And this is a culmination of the beautiful sport, a

836
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 6: great season. I love this time of the year, absolutely love.

837
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: We appreciate you and have fun at the game, and

838
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: we'll talk to you again soon. I promise you that.

839
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, guys, I appreciate you having me on. Enjoy the madness.

840
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 1: Thanks Jordan Jordan Cornett, he's working with Westwood One and

841
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: it's Purdue Texas later on tonight at seven ten pm.

842
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: We got to take a quick time out more in

843
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: a moment in ninety three five, one oh seven five

844
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: of the fan. Y'all fired up over there.

845
00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 3: Caleb Usuver, I am, I sure am the new head.

846
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: Coach of the Ball State Cardinals on the Painless Liquors Hotline

847
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: right now. I've been looking forward to this all morning

848
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: long and finding out a little bit more about him

849
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: and where we're going up there in Muncie. And Chris

850
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: CapCo is kind enough to join us this morning here

851
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: at ninety three five and one oh seven five the

852
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: fan coach. Welcome to Indiana, welcome to the area, and

853
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: welcome to Ball State. Man. How are you doing this morning?

854
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 6: I'm doing good? What's up? Boys? How's everything?

855
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 7: Wow to be in Indiana and uh happy to be

856
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 7: on well right.

857
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: In the middle of everything. That's great about basketball. I

858
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: got purdueing the Sweet sixteen tonight, new head coach at

859
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: Butler and a new head coach at ball State. And

860
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: for those who don't know all that much about Chris CapCo,

861
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: you can tell us a little bit more. But you've

862
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: been working with Andy Enfield quite a bit over the

863
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: last several years.

864
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 6: Correct.

865
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've been with him for twelve years, and you know,

866
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 7: it's just been really hard to leave him, and not

867
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 7: that I've been trying to, but you know, when this

868
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 7: business is so tough, man, when you got somebody who

869
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 7: give you a good quality of life, to treat you

870
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 7: with respect, gave me a lot of responsibility, you know.

871
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 7: It was just it had the opportunity had to be

872
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 7: right for me to leave. I was happy with what

873
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 7: we had accomplished where we were at. You know, my

874
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 7: family was happy with where we were living and how

875
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 7: things were going. So it has to take a really

876
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 7: good opportunity to get me to go somewhere. And I

877
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 7: felt like Ball State was at. I felt like here

878
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 7: there was real alignment between the President A. D and

879
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 7: myself and felt at the time it was right.

880
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 2: Again, we're talking to Chris CapCo, the new head coach

881
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 2: at Ball State for men's basketball, Chris. I know he

882
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: talked about being in alignment with the Ball State administration

883
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: and their athletic staff. What made this the right time

884
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 2: for you to make this leap to being a head

885
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: coach and also what made Ball State the right opportunity

886
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 2: for you.

887
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I've been fortunate enough where I could

888
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 7: be patient, right, and I was in no rush to

889
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 7: go anywhere where I felt like there wasn't real alignment

890
00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 7: after my first conversation with the ad Jeff Mitchell, and

891
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 7: I could tell he wanted to be good like you know,

892
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 7: for me, I think whether it's a first time head

893
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 7: coach or a second time head coach or whatever, all

894
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 7: you could ask for is to go somewhere were the

895
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 7: people who are put in place to make you be successful.

896
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 7: They really and genuinely want you to be successful that

897
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 7: they're going to try to do whatever they can to

898
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 7: give you the resources to make you as competitive as possible.

899
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: And I felt that was Jeff.

900
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 7: I felt a real I could tell I was his

901
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 7: guy just the way he engaged with me, in the

902
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 7: way he communicated with me, I could tell he was

903
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 7: invested in me and I had a really good sense

904
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 7: that he was going to do whatever he could in

905
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 7: his power to make me successful, and that's all I

906
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 7: could ask for. I didn't talk to President Marns he

907
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 7: felt the same way or I got the same field

908
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 7: from him. And because of that, you know, only coming

909
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 7: two months in the last couple of days and seeing

910
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 7: like the support and seeing how people come out and

911
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 7: how they actually care about is only confirmed how.

912
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: I felt about this place. So I felt like it

913
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: was a home run for me.

914
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 7: At some point I was going to have to take

915
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 7: a leap of faith in myself and bet on myself

916
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 7: and show I was ready to do this. And I

917
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 7: felt like with their alive and just kind of where

918
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 7: the time he was with everything, that this was the

919
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 7: time to do it.

920
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 4: The voice of Chris CapCo, the new head coach up there,

921
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 4: shout out Dill Street Ball State as they will try

922
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 4: to end day. I believe it's a twenty six year

923
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 4: drought and make the NC tournament. Coach, Did I hear

924
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 4: correctly that you got a newborn, like really young, you.

925
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 1: Did fifteen days old? It's a good hacktack.

926
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 6: Yeah.

927
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 8: March ninth, March ninth, I'm in the mix right now. Boys, Wow, congrats,

928
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 8: I'm in the mix. Congrats on that. Hope mom is

929
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 8: healthy and doing well. I do the scan of the bio.

930
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 4: I don't see any obvious or direct ties to the

931
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 4: state or ball State in general.

932
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 3: Was there anything that I'm missing there?

933
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 7: Uh? No, there is nothing. The only tie I have

934
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 7: the Ball Stay was that Darren Smith is from my area.

935
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 7: I'm from Lakeland, Florida. There I was from Auburnville, Florida,

936
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 7: and he was a senior when I was a freshman,

937
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 7: so I know him loosely. But when he signed with

938
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 7: Ball State coming out of high school, I followed his

939
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 7: career and he had a great career, two time all

940
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 7: max election was on the last term a team at

941
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 7: Ball State, so that was my first connection to it.

942
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 7: But other than that, I have no ties to the

943
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 7: state of Indiana, no ties the months he no ties

944
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:12,479
Speaker 7: to Ball State.

945
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 4: Have you recruited the state much, if at all?

946
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 6: I have not, so I have not, but I'm not

947
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 6: worried about it, guys.

948
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 7: To be honest with you, and I said this at

949
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 7: my press conference. My last two stops, I had no

950
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 7: ties to those places either. I had no ties to

951
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 7: USC or LA I had come from Georgia and spent

952
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 7: my whole career in the South before I went there,

953
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 7: and like I said, fixed mcgonald's all Americans and eleven

954
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 7: pros later it worked out pretty well. And then when

955
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 7: we came to Dallas became SMU. You know, I haven't

956
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 7: the state of Texas much. I had no familiarity with

957
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 7: Dallas and just went in there immersed ourselves in it,

958
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 7: and I feel confident that wherever I go, I can

959
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 7: make relationships. I'm gonna work at it. I'm gonna be inclusive.

960
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 7: We're going to make sure that people have access to

961
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 7: what we do so they become familiar familiar with us.

962
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 7: And then I'm gonna hire staff who does have connections

963
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 7: in the Midwest in Indiana at all different levels, who

964
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 7: can point me in those directions. But I'm gonna work

965
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 7: at building relationships. I'm gonna work at evaluating the kids

966
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 7: in the state, and we're going to do the best

967
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 7: job that we can to make sure that these kids

968
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 7: are a priority and we bring the right kids in

969
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 7: and kids who have a chip on the shoulder and

970
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 7: know what it means to be a ball state cardinal

971
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 7: and know what kind of town months, he is.

972
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: And we're going to work at that. But I'm not

973
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: concerned with that.

974
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 6: Guys.

975
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, Chris, when you look at

976
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: the changing landscape of college basketball and you've been in

977
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 2: it for quite some time, what have you learned over

978
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: the last few years with the introduction of NIL and

979
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 2: money and salaries and transfer portal? Like, how confident are

980
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 2: you in just that world and that realm of your

981
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 2: responsibilities at this point?

982
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm super comfortable. And I told Justice during the

983
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 7: interview process. You know, I've been an associate head coach

984
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 7: for I think six years now, certing the track of it.

985
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: But anyways, when we.

986
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 7: Transition from USC to SMU and we had to take

987
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 7: over a whole new roster, you know, learning a new

988
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 7: area similar to what I'm doing now, the money had

989
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 7: started to take a jump that off season from you know,

990
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 7: I don't want to say it's minimal, but it really

991
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 7: took this huge jump in terms of what we were

992
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 7: actually paying the kids and how we were negotiating.

993
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: And when we came out.

994
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 7: On the other side of that, we won twenty four

995
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 7: games our first year at SMU, and when I came

996
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 7: out on the other side of that having to hire

997
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 7: a new staff, right, We had to hire a couple

998
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 7: of new staff members, and coach gave me a lot

999
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 7: of responsibility.

1000
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: With that that when I came out of that, I

1001
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: knew I was ready. I had never been more convicted.

1002
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 7: That I was ready after coming out of that and

1003
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 7: the success that we had. So you're right, it's changing,

1004
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 7: it's chaos. My first thing is I want to get

1005
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 7: a feel for the guys at Ball State.

1006
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: Who want to stay and go. I think there's some guys.

1007
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 7: Who I would love to have, but it's got to

1008
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 7: make sense, right, It's got to be the right people.

1009
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 7: Then we got to talk business and make sure that

1010
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 7: we can come to the right number, so to speak,

1011
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 7: so it makes sense for both sides.

1012
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: And then after that, hopefully once I get a.

1013
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 7: Better to who's staying and going, then I can really

1014
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 7: attack the strengths and weaknesses of those guys who we

1015
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 7: know are coming back. With those guys we got to

1016
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 7: go get in the portal, in the high school class

1017
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 7: and things like that. But it's fluid, it's ever changing.

1018
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 7: Things can change at the snap of a finger. But

1019
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 7: that's you know, I'm not the only one going through

1020
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 7: that challenge right now, we're all going through and we

1021
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 7: all have to navigate it in our own way.

1022
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 3: Chris, last one for me and appreciate your time.

1023
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 4: You know, when the new coach is hired, you know

1024
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 4: you hear okay, you know x's and o's.

1025
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 6: What's he like? You know?

1026
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: You know is he a leader of men? You know

1027
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 3: the whole.

1028
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 4: Recruiting landscape connections, you know, NBA ties, et cetera, et cetera.

1029
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 4: How much do you view raising money as a part

1030
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 4: of your job.

1031
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 7: It's DeepArt now, obviously, you know you have to do

1032
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 7: all that stuff right at the end of the day,

1033
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 7: the products you put on the floor and the outcome matters.

1034
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 7: But it starts with being competitive in the NIL space.

1035
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 6: And that was one of the reasons.

1036
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 7: Again you talk about why I decided to me and

1037
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 7: why the timing was right. My talks with my administration,

1038
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 7: I felt like the timing was right that they were

1039
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 7: going to be committed to giving me the proper nile

1040
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 7: resources to be competitive. Now it's up to me, with

1041
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 7: the help of them in our administration and other people

1042
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 7: in development and stuff like that, to go out there

1043
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 7: and raise more money to allow us to be even

1044
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 7: more competitive. But the caveat to that is is why

1045
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 7: you have to be competitive in that space. I also

1046
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 7: have to make smart, rational decisions and that's where you know,

1047
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 7: I'm putting a staff together and one you know, I

1048
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 7: hired an analytics guy, was my first hire, because we

1049
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 7: are going to put our gun and our instinct, We're

1050
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 7: going to combine it with the data and analytics to

1051
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 7: come about making the most rational decisions that we can.

1052
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 1: You have to be smart.

1053
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 6: You have to be.

1054
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 7: Efficient because people don't want to give money and I

1055
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 7: just go out there and spend it frivolously. So I

1056
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 7: take that that part of it very seriously. But the

1057
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 7: fundraising part is a huge part of it now because

1058
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 7: that's the first component in giving you the opportunity to

1059
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 7: be competitive, is making sure you have the proper resources

1060
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 7: in place, and some of that falls on me.

1061
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna have fun watching you. Best of luck

1062
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: up there. We'll have you on the show as often

1063
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: as we can. And congratulations again, man, there's nothing like

1064
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: having a newborn. It's terrific. Yeah, I appreciate it, guys.

1065
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: Thanks Budge. Thanks there he is. He's the brand new

1066
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: head coach of the ball State Cardinals. That is Chris

1067
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: CapCo joining us here on the paylist lookers hotline.

1068
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 4: I find that a little wild, like when you see

1069
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 4: mid major programs and I'm not just talking whatever Butler

1070
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 4: and you know, again classifying butlers and mid majors, Uh,

1071
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 4: you know, not fair in the Big East realm.

1072
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 5: But.

1073
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 4: You don't typically see the higher I think at that

1074
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 4: level have like zero ties geographically. Yeah, that's a little

1075
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 4: unusual to me, is it not to you guys? No,

1076
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 4: And it's a one eighty from the previous guy, to

1077
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 4: be honest with you, Michael Lewis, of course, Jaspernadove and

1078
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 4: I you you know, player and assistant and Butler, et cetera.

1079
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 6: Et cetera.

1080
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 2: No, I think you're spot on with that, Kevin, because

1081
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 2: you talk about like the seventh degrees of separate ration

1082
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 2: in life and sports is like two or three. And

1083
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: to not have very many ties really no ties to

1084
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: ball State is a little.

1085
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 3: Weird, but it can be good weird.

1086
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm very confident, dude, and very confident given

1087
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Speaker 2: his resume coming over from SMU. They just got to

1088
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: the tournament for the first time in several years and

1089
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: had a great recruiting class. He has something on his

1090
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: resume to back up why you want him to lead

1091
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: your program.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was talking about the McDonald's all Americans

1093
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: and NBA guys that he has recruited during his time,

1094
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: mostly with Andy Enfield. But yeah, Bronnie James, Evan Mobley, Isaiah.

1095
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Speaker 6: Call yeer.

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00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: Guys like that. I mean he's been able to find

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Speaker 1: guys anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Ronnie James four points last night against the Pacers.

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Speaker 1: You know you got a gay time erupted for four

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00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: points last night against the Pacers.

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00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: Shout out to him, my buddy, is it Dan? How

1102
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: you say his last name? Wokeie Woke? He's our Lakers

1103
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 2: reporter did a feature story on Bronnie James after the game,

1104
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 2: and I was thinking, boy, to be Lebron's son. Score

1105
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 2: four points and you get a feature. Great time to

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00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: be a lot. Ron and bron your living.

1107
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 4: Life, just travel the US, play the NBA, and like

1108
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 4: play golf together.

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00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 3: It was cool seeing him yesterday.

1110
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Speaker 5: I thought, like just dapping each other up like bron

1111
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 5: and I think when Bronny missed a shot, bron was

1112
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 5: getting on him a little bit, like.

1113
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 3: It's just cool to see that.

1114
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. Did you see that video of Lebron

1115
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: James playing golf yesterday?

1116
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had a little uh yeah in the era

1117
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 4: a golf right with the sun. Yeah yeah, though he

1118
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 4: almost snap hooked into the pickleball court there.

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00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: You need to get off of sixteenth t Can you

1120
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: give him a few pointers?

1121
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 4: I am gonna go out on a limb and say

1122
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 4: Lebron has access to some unbelievable golf code.

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00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but not Kevin Bowen.

1124
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 3: Well, at Kevin Bowen, he'd only get worse.

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Speaker 1: You can play with Kevin Bowen at the Fan Invitational?

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00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: Can you do that, le Bron. We'll get Lebron to

1127
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: play at the Fan Invitational?

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Speaker 3: What do you think, Frank lab An Airport? He can

1129
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 3: fly the private jet.

1130
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Speaker 6: Right there?

1131
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: We go, all right, coming up in a minute. We

1132
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: will get you ready to go for all things sports

1133
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: the rest of the day. Where to watch it, what

1134
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: to watch when it starts, everything else as we continue

1135
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 1: next ninety three five, one oh seven five. It's Thursday,

1136
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: Sweet sixteen, later on tonight. But if you're looking for

1137
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: something to do between now and the start of the

1138
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: Sweet sixteen, Caleb, I know you, for example, your baseball

1139
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: guy got all kinds of baseball Opening Day for a

1140
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: lot of teams today, including are Reds that open up

1141
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: at four to ten today against the Red Sox.

1142
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 5: The best, the best thing about being a sports fan

1143
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 5: is those days when there's sports on at one o'clock

1144
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 5: in the afternoon. So I'm glad baseball is back. I

1145
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 5: feel like it's snuck up. It really really did. But

1146
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 5: glad it's here and I'm ready to go. I'm excited.

1147
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: What's your baseball team of choice? Kayleb Oh, here we

1148
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: go again with I'm just I.

1149
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 3: Don't know because this is going to open up.

1150
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeahs do you see do you see Dyke and

1151
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: shying away from the Cubs in there? No, it's true,

1152
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: it's true.

1153
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 5: But I know we've made a long story about my

1154
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 5: fandom this week. I'm a Detroit Tigers fan.

1155
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: Okay, it's supposed to be pretty decent.

1156
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 5: This year might be last year with Trek scoobl in

1157
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 5: a Tiger's uniform before he probably goes to the Dodgers

1158
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 5: or something. I don't know.

1159
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: He will be pitching at Petco Park this afternoon at

1160
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: Fourteenth's right, fourteen?

1161
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 2: Like me, Caleb, I'm a diehard Dodgers fan like teams

1162
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 2: that spend and you're telling me about the Pearly Gates. Okay, hey,

1163
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 2: I told you. My hot take for sports is that

1164
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: bandwagon fans a genius is That's right? Why be miserable?

1165
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 3: You could be happy every year?

1166
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: Uh huh? Hasn't been a sports fan at times? Isn't

1167
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: being miserable part of being a sports fan?

1168
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 2: I've seen the light, Kevin.

1169
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: You've had the ups and downs of sports fandom in

1170
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: your lifetime. Who's made you the most miserable?

1171
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, just a pleasant thought. I mean by all

1172
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 4: I do is think about the losses Bush Bush lead

1173
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 4: eight against Kentucky Shrewsbury Own after the ref from cal

1174
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 4: That was.

1175
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was this year.

1176
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 2: It's the one of the funniest videos ever.

1177
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 3: Don't have to remind me of that.

1178
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: That was before the injury, right.

1179
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 3: Up before the torne Quiloah.

1180
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, you guys worried about Purdue.

1181
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 3: You guys act like you're you. You guys seem like

1182
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 3: you're worried about Purdue. I'm not worried about Producer.

1183
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: I worry about any game that's one and done. All

1184
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: you gotta do is have a bad shooting night.

1185
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 5: I think you gotta have you gotta have a good

1186
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 5: Braiden Smith game tonight. Turnovers can't be there. They're gonna

1187
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 5: try to drag you down into the mud. Texas is like,

1188
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 5: gotta gotta keep the uh the turnovers down if you're

1189
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 5: Braiden Smith and just play a controlled game.

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00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 2: I think if Purdue had played better against Miami and

1191
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 2: perhaps like in that first half, I feel differently because

1192
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 2: I thought CJ.

1193
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 3: Cox built him out.

1194
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 2: Honestly, Yeah, those three three Yeah, I was because I

1195
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 2: was like, you guys are kind of flirting with disaster

1196
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 2: here and boy with a narrative, be a lot different

1197
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 2: had they lost that game but live reality and they

1198
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 2: won it. But that's where I'm at.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's to Caleb's point, like I do

1200
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 4: have questions about Purdue from a rebounding standpoint, from you know, defending,

1201
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 4: you know, strong drivers, you know things like that. So

1202
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 4: you don't want to throw in any things that you

1203
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 4: don't feel confident about, like turnovers or Brad Smith playing

1204
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 4: like you did last game.

1205
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 3: You know, now all of a sudden you throw that

1206
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 3: in there, and it's.

1207
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 4: Like, Okay, that's one I expected to be not happening tonight,

1208
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 4: and they shot it great against Miami. I mean, like

1209
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 4: as poor as they played or if you want to

1210
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 4: label their grade for the game, it was really just

1211
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 4: kind of rooted in turnovers more than they shot a grade.

1212
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 4: So I don't know. They're in another hockey arena right tonight.

1213
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 4: Maybe they'll shoot it good again in that building.

1214
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: I'm looking at all the baseball games later today too,

1215
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: and the very first game that gets played today it's

1216
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: at one point fifteen. And if you just love baseball,

1217
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: this pitching match of Paul Skins and Freddie Peralta as

1218
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: the Pirates take on the Mets, Like, if you like baseball, Caleb,

1219
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: that should be an interesting game to watch.

1220
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 3: Do you like baseball?

1221
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 6: I do?

1222
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 3: Are you going to watch that game?

1223
00:54:58,560 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: Parts of it?

1224
00:54:59,120 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1225
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think I'll be there every I will

1226
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: not be there every pitch, but it'll be on It'll

1227
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: be on the back shirt as I'm prepping for the

1228
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 1: four A game today.

1229
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 5: Sure, And you know what, the only time the Pirates

1230
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 5: are probably worth watching is when Paul Skins is on

1231
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 5: the mound.

1232
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 3: So today is one of those days we're always difficult

1233
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 3: to watch baseball. This year did I get wind of that?

1234
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 3: Is there?

1235
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 4: Am I not just gonna be able to dial up

1236
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 4: my normal TV viewing? Like usually I get every Reds

1237
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 4: game I have at and to you verse someone telling

1238
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 4: me yesterday, you're not going to get it?

1239
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 6: Is that true?

1240
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: Probably because baseball has the like Baseball makes it hard

1241
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: for you to watch your team every year, they make

1242
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 1: it harder and harder and harder to watch. They are

1243
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: so fragmented and so interested in getting every teeny tiny

1244
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: last penny out of you that they make it almost

1245
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: impossible for you to watch your team on a continuous

1246
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: regular basis.

1247
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 2: Kabe, just how letch a boy after the show?

1248
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1249
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 3: But time to illegally stream?

1250
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 4: But I like James said that, James gonna have my

1251
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 4: house burned down the illegal streams.

1252
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 6: That'll be firing up here.

1253
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 2: What do you mean it will be burned down? It'll

1254
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 2: be jumping up in there, man, James, you.

1255
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 4: Didn't even know wrong, was like, man, what are these

1256
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 4: pop up center all of a sudden showing up on

1257
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 4: daddy's laptop?

1258
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: The electric What are you talking about? Uh?

1259
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 2: Little faith?

1260
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I don't know NBC supposedly, so I guess

1261
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 1: the Peacock. You could probably watch Pirates match today.

1262
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 3: I know I'm a little sentimental, but I really enjoyed

1263
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 3: the conversation with Jordan Cornette.

1264
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 2: First, I really was. It was sentimental honestly.

1265
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 3: You know, I think his college bassetlent INSIGHT's great. Let's

1266
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 3: start there.

1267
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 4: But you know, anytime I hear talk about his brother,

1268
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 4: I was always enjoy it, And so I really enjoyed

1269
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 4: brother was a baller to Jordan Cornette, popping on and

1270
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,919
Speaker 4: just unbelievle personality, and for him to share a time

1271
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 4: with us, greatly appreciate it. Little nor Dame basketball talk

1272
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 4: for the three people out there that would like that.

1273
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 4: But more than that, I think you'll enjoy that. Up

1274
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 4: on the podcast, Calebile have that up along with Chris CapCo.

1275
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 4: We just chatted with the new ball State Code.

1276
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1277
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 2: I think one of the reallest things he said was

1278
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 2: don't tell me you're sorry to talk about my brother,

1279
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,439
Speaker 2: because obviously it's painful. But I think that's a point

1280
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 2: we all can probably like resonate with losing somebody. You're like,

1281
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 2: you know what, it is probably good to bring him

1282
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 2: up every now and then reminisce and so a lot

1283
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 2: of good memories. I'm sure he had run through his

1284
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 2: mind throughout the interview well.

1285
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 4: And I was glad he shared a little bit more

1286
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 4: context around the and I can hear see Joel Cornette

1287
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 4: get closer to the mic going and we are still here.

1288
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 4: And I had forgotten the Ben Howland part to that

1289
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 4: of him not thinking Butler should have been in the tournament.

1290
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 4: I forget Butler beat. I want to say, it's Oklahoma

1291
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 4: and Louisville maybe those first two games to get to

1292
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 4: the sweet sixteen. And you imagine being the Cornett parents.

1293
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 4: Both your sons are in the sweet sixteen, you know,

1294
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 4: and you're traveling across the country trying to make that work.

1295
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 3: So good problem again, fun fun chat with him, and

1296
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:56,959
Speaker 3: a lot.

1297
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 4: Of Purdue talk as well, because he was on the

1298
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 4: Westwood one call and he helped us get set up

1299
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 4: for tonight seven to ten on CBS.

1300
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: All right, your your pick tonight, Kevin Purdue minus seven

1301
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: and a half Texas.

1302
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got Purdue by ten.

1303
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 2: All right, James, give me Purdue by four.

1304
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: I go Purdue by a dozen, Purdue by six.

1305
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 3: There we go, say Arkansas upsets Arizona.

1306
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: Oh, I like that we'll check out out.

1307
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

1308
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: What about Houston, Illinois, James, I'll give me Illinois. Okay,

1309
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna sleep at all tonight. He's gonna drag yourself

1310
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:25,919
Speaker 1: in tomorrow morning.

1311
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 2: I'll be here tomorrow fifty.

1312
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: Nine, as will the rest of us. Seven o'clock, Jake

1313
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: at noon, JMB at three,