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Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen joining us now on the Java House, Peel

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Speaker 1: and Port guest line. Kevin, does your son make playoff predictions?

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Speaker 2: He does not know?

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Speaker 3: Should should he?

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Speaker 2: Though?

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Speaker 4: And why not?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, because I think the playoff prediction,

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you at this point, probably is

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Speaker 1: even more authentic because he you know, he knows the

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Speaker 1: Colts helmet every time, and I think he gets the

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Speaker 1: drill right, you know, but playoff, I mean it's a

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Speaker 1: little more genuine, if you will.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a little where he'd favor the Colts

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Speaker 3: a lot this year, but I think record wise, I

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Speaker 3: think he had a better record than the Colts, which

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Speaker 3: has kind of been, you know, staple for him there.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, again, those animal helmets, as we've talked about,

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Speaker 3: you know, those are always super attractive for a three

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Speaker 3: year old boy.

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Speaker 4: Is it being retired? Are you doing it next year?

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Speaker 4: Or are we done after this year? We are done?

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Speaker 3: Like Philip rivers into the sunset, Max bow and migrates

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Speaker 3: into the sunset.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so the question is this We'll begin

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Speaker 1: with what we were just talking about. If the Max

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Speaker 1: Bow and NFL picks have just had their last season

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. Does that have them having anything in common

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Speaker 1: with Michael Bittman Jr.

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Speaker 5: Good question.

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Speaker 3: I I think at twenty nine million dollars cap hit,

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Speaker 3: then no, like that can't happen. I also think Michael

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Speaker 3: Pitman Jr.

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Speaker 6: Still is a you know, solid football player, and if

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Speaker 6: you were to let him go, then you create another

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Speaker 6: need for you. You know, part of me thinks, and

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Speaker 6: I know it's delicate when you talk about wide receivers

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Speaker 6: specifically their divas. You know, part of me thinks, Michael

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Speaker 6: Biman Junior kind of understands, you know, where he's at

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Speaker 6: from a value standpoint and realizes twenty nine million.

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Speaker 3: Dollar capet is a bit unfair. So again, could you

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Speaker 3: work something out along those lines? Maybe I just wish

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Speaker 3: we'll think game.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, Michael Pittman Junior at that capet number cannot happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the And again, now Kevin spelled this

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Speaker 1: out for me. I'm going to show my complete ignorance here.

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Speaker 4: Okay, the.

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Speaker 1: What is the time frame in terms of, in other words,

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Speaker 1: Michael Pittman Junior and the necessity to have him in

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Speaker 1: whether you restructure whatever it may be. But the necessity

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Speaker 1: of Michael Pittman Junior on the roster is largely based

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Speaker 1: upon especially Alec Pierce and whether you retain him, because

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Speaker 1: if you lose Alec Pearson, Pittman Junr. Becomes obviously that

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Speaker 1: much more important to make sure that you have something there.

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Speaker 1: What is the timeline on how that would work out?

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Speaker 1: In other words, is it is it such that they

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Speaker 1: are afforded the ability to know whether Pierce is in

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Speaker 1: or out before they make a decision on Pittman.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so I think with Pierce kind of the big

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Speaker 6: day it'll be watched two weeks before it's two weeks

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Speaker 6: supporting free agency. Actually it might be three weeks. Sometimes

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Speaker 6: in late February, the franchise tag window opens. It's a

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Speaker 6: fourteen a period that it's open. And you know, last

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Speaker 6: year the Colts or two years ago, I should say

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Speaker 5: Michael Piman Jr. Late in that window. They then got a.

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Speaker 6: Long term deal done with them before the new league

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Speaker 6: year opened. But that is I think kind of the

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Speaker 6: timeline for Pierce. Do you franchise tag him in that

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Speaker 6: two year two week window, then you know, do you

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Speaker 6: get a deal done with him before the start of

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Speaker 6: the new league year.

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Speaker 3: I believe you have until July to.

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Speaker 5: Get that done. It's not like there's the urgency to

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Speaker 5: get it done.

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Speaker 6: But you know, mid March, I want to say it's

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Speaker 6: the twelve thirteen something like that is when free agency

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Speaker 6: eventually begins, the new league year officially begins. That's when

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Speaker 6: I think you would see again potentially a Pierce tag,

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Speaker 6: a Pierce long term contract, obviously the Daniel Jones situation,

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Speaker 6: and then you know, do you restructure Michael Pitman Jr.

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Speaker 6: To then have a little bit more from a fun

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Speaker 1: By the way, Kevin, I hate to be the bearer

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Speaker 1: of bad news to you here, but and I don't

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Speaker 1: know if this is the case in the morning or not. Occasionally,

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Speaker 1: not all the time, but occasionally with a little more frequency. Lately,

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Speaker 1: the guest line sometimes sounds like the helium that the

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Speaker 1: chipmunk has gotten into the helium tank. And you sound

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Speaker 1: a little like the kids from the Gummy Bears commercial.

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Speaker 1: You cool with that?

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Speaker 6: I am very cool with that. My kids are big

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Speaker 6: Gummy Bear fans, So sure I sound like Alvin from

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Speaker 6: the Chipmunk.

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Speaker 1: It starts to go, It starts to add in that

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Speaker 1: direction and then and then you go back to your

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Speaker 1: normal dulcet tones.

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Speaker 4: So we'll see here, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the fun of this shoe Carnival

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Speaker 1: broadcast sometimes, right, you just spin the wheel and take

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Speaker 1: your chance, exactly. Okay, So Kevin, let's go back to you.

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Speaker 1: You were talking about Pierce and Pittman Jr. A guy

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Speaker 1: that is really interesting to me for the Colts, And

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Speaker 1: we're going to get into EU and all that in

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Speaker 1: a second. But neck Cross is fascinating to me because

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Speaker 1: I think he has really played well. He really grew

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Speaker 1: I think we thought, okay, great athletes, still has to

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Speaker 1: learn some of the instincts. Seems like some of that

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Speaker 1: came together. You tell me if you disagree, and I'm

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Speaker 1: romanticizing what he brings to the table, but I do

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Speaker 1: think that he is a player that would be great

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Speaker 1: to keep around. Does he have a lot of marketability

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Speaker 1: outside or value outside of the Colts or is this

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Speaker 1: kind of one of those unique circumstances where he fits

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Speaker 1: what they're doing and so therefore probably there's not going

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Speaker 1: to be a huge price tag for him elsewhere.

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Speaker 3: Well, a couple of years ago, Julian Blackman, he thought

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Speaker 3: the safety market would be a little bit more rope

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Speaker 3: bus it was not.

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Speaker 5: And you know, think about Cross too.

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Speaker 6: He's more of a like closer line of scrimmage safety,

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Speaker 6: not a deep field safety, and I think that is

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Speaker 6: something that probably hurts him a little bit. But still

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Speaker 6: I can never see him, you know, meriting a decent contract.

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Speaker 3: And I think he's been a nice player.

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Speaker 5: Nice is scent here such in the last couple of years.

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Speaker 6: He's a very young draft stick out of Maryland, uh,

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Speaker 6: you know back when they created into the third round

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Speaker 6: to take him. But I just don't see you having

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Speaker 6: the finances to.

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Speaker 5: Retain Cross and find them and.

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Speaker 6: Then addressing everything else that theoretically is on the table.

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Speaker 6: Having said that, I also don't think there's a safety

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Speaker 6: Smith of the two, for me, Jacob, like good players,

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Speaker 6: I think you would an ideal world with you know,

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Speaker 6: bottomless money. Yes, you would be able to do that,

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Speaker 6: but I don't necessarily think they have the means to

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Speaker 6: do it while addressing more pressing defensive needs.

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Speaker 1: Kevin, do you believe Kevin Bowen is my guest? He's

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Speaker 1: on the Java House Peel and Poor line. Of course,

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Speaker 1: you hear him on the Fan Morning show along with

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Speaker 1: jeff Ricord and James Boyd each and every morning at

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Speaker 1: seven o'clock in the morning on weekdays.

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Speaker 4: I should say, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe that as Indiana's profile increases in college

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Speaker 1: football and now suddenly they've become the it school for

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Speaker 1: portal transfers and their high school you know, spotlight of

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Speaker 1: high school players has gone up as well, so you

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Speaker 1: the the two stars. Nobody wanted him to come here,

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Speaker 1: Mac trains for guys. Seemingly you've elevated beyond that area.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe that Kurt Signetti can get the same

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Speaker 1: level of commitment and dedication from his players when he's

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Speaker 1: not having to sell the US against the world band

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Speaker 1: of misfits mantra.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 5: That'll be a new challenge for him.

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Speaker 6: You know, obviously, so much of this course still the

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Speaker 6: James Madison guys, you know, and I think the task

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Speaker 5: Will be, you know, how do you ingrain that to

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Speaker 6: Does get passed down to the underclassmen and then you know,

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Speaker 6: those guys are taking over at me trying.

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Speaker 5: To know which players have eligibility left.

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Speaker 6: It in Indiana's for any college for that matter, in

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Speaker 6: this day and age.

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Speaker 3: It's probably a lost cause.

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Speaker 6: But you know whatever I'm trying to think of. You know,

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Speaker 6: Charlie Becker is back. You know, I don't know Homark

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Speaker 6: Cooper Junior is going to go pro or not. I

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Speaker 6: think a couple of the offensive linemen are back for

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Speaker 6: still retaining you know, all the important pieces.

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Speaker 5: It looks like, which.

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Speaker 6: I think is one of the more underrated aspects of

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Speaker 6: what Signetti has done. And it's a credit to not

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Speaker 5: They've had there. But yeah, that'll be the question of

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Speaker 6: More of the goals, I will be done your back,

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Speaker 6: And I don't know if we can eat enough praise

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Speaker 6: to the James Madison guys of the Tyreek Tusters, the

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Speaker 6: Aiden Fishers of D'Angelo Ponds, the Elijah Sarrats, and you

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Speaker 6: know the list is. You know, I know longer than that,

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Speaker 6: but they have just brought so much out only on

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Speaker 5: A culture that clearly Kurtzingnny walked into and was disgusted with.

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Speaker 6: And I think that was a big reason why you

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Speaker 6: saw him act in the public manner that he did

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Speaker 6: got the job of being so demonstrative about you know, hey,

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Speaker 6: we are going to win here, and we're not going

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Speaker 6: to stand down to anybody, and we're not gonna play

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Speaker 6: little brother in any of that, and then produce.

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Speaker 5: Sucks in Ohio State ducks and Michigan sucks.

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Speaker 6: And when I come to the Big Ten Championship game

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Speaker 6: and I'm on the sout Dave Revston, I'm gonna say, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I figured we're going to be here next year, so

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Speaker 6: might as well come here.

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Speaker 5: You know, all of that I think was very.

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Speaker 6: Orchestrated, frankly after what he experienced culturally, from how people

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Speaker 6: viewed in the and honestly probably more internally than externally.

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Speaker 4: I in turn of that I would agree.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think he got in there and thought

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Speaker 1: this place needs a major overhauled and uplift. Right, Okay, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: real quick when it comes to the Colts, Eddie, if

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Speaker 1: you could please to break a new sounder Steven Holder

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Speaker 1: and Kevin might apologize apologies if you also had just

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Speaker 1: posted this because the expost Twitter is acting a little wonky,

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Speaker 1: So upcoming this year, last year, at Grand Park. Kevin's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think a little bit. Now, this is the

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Speaker 7: Same from that same press release, Kevin. Even though camp

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Speaker 4: So there you go, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: It's as if taking a business enterprise and moving it

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Speaker 5: I see what you did there, very Jake Query.

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Speaker 3: I'll be there.

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Speaker 8: You totally do the laughters. The best part this sinister

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Speaker 4: No I was. I was in disbelief when that happened.

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Speaker 4: That'll be the lasting memory of Grand Park? Right sure?

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Speaker 3: Maybe they look in and say, well, we've been there

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Speaker 3: So maybe we'll we'll bring the rooster and have it

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Speaker 1: And he asked a good question, and I think I

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Speaker 6: Do you Indie get up? Do you marrying it up?

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Speaker 3: A little bit? Because you know, for a lot.

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Speaker 5: Just access to them are not readily available.

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Speaker 6: So the opportunity you've it to watch your team, you know,

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Speaker 1: If you will, Kevin, lastly, can we just get you

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Speaker 1: to say, if you could please, We're off to see

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Speaker 5: We're off to see the Wizard, the Wonderful Wizard of Oz.

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Speaker 9: All right, well, well we'll leave you on that note.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. By the way, I will tell you this, Kevin,

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Speaker 3: I see you guys.

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Speaker 1: Now here's the question to lead for Courtney Cronin, who

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Speaker 1: Poor Guest line on a return trip to the program. Courtney,

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Speaker 1: the lead question for you would be this, if you

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Speaker 1: these two scenarios when you were a child seemed more

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Speaker 10: I know, the teams play outside of their city's namesake,

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Speaker 2: Forty nine play a.

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Speaker 10: Long place, a long way away from San Francisco, but

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Speaker 3: But it's you know, they.

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Speaker 10: Went to the Super Bowl in my lifetime once. They

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Speaker 4: Is this because the I'll be honest Courtney.

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Speaker 1: When this first was surfaced as a possibility, maybe even

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Speaker 10: I think it was in that letter that Kevin Warren

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Speaker 2: At Soldier Field, big breast.

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Speaker 2: And then they did it again.

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Speaker 10: Appeared, this is getting more serious. I think we came

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Speaker 10: the pressure from some of these towns Arlington Heights included,

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Speaker 10: to try to do whatever you can and make sure

443
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Speaker 10: the team, like your one NFL team, doesn't leave the state.

444
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Speaker 1: You know, oftentimes when this happens, and we've seen it

445
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Speaker 1: a billion places and probably you know, nowhere more so

446
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Speaker 1: than Chicago with the Bears to your point, Courtney, but

447
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Speaker 1: when it comes down to it and you get to

448
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Speaker 1: the eleventh hour, everybody always seems to find like this

449
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Speaker 1: common ground and then you're like.

450
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Speaker 4: Okay, this was all or not it is.

451
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Speaker 1: Are we at the point where the people of Chicago

452
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Speaker 1: or the state of Illinois, and I would not blame them, Okay,

453
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Speaker 1: are we at the point where they would just say,

454
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Speaker 1: you know what, you guys have been calling this bluff

455
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Speaker 1: and asking for more for too long. You know, leave,

456
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Speaker 1: go go ahead and go enough is enough. We're drawing

457
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Speaker 1: the line in the sand, which I would love if

458
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Speaker 1: a tax group would do that. But is that a

459
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Speaker 1: possibility that just overall almost apathetic nature of the constant

460
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Speaker 1: soap opera of it would get to that point.

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Speaker 10: Well, that's what the governor's office has been saying for

462
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Speaker 10: a while now. How serious JB. Pritzker is remains to

463
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Speaker 10: be seen. You don't want to run for president of

464
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Speaker 10: the United States in twenty twenty eight on the Democratic

465
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Speaker 10: ticket and be the guy who lets the Bears leave

466
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Speaker 10: the state. Now, I still think that he would get

467
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Speaker 10: his voter base. Illinois a very blue state. It's not

468
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Speaker 10: hard to find those votes elsewhere. But it's not a

469
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Speaker 10: good look either way. It's also not a good look

470
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Speaker 10: to do what Kansas just did and funding like the

471
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Speaker 10: largest prior of the largest stadium project has ever been

472
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Speaker 10: funded by a state government in the history of the

473
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Speaker 10: United States. Like, there's got to be some sort of

474
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Speaker 10: common ground here, But the Bears have been trying, Like

475
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Speaker 10: it's not that they have not been trying to accommodate,

476
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Speaker 10: like where the state is, but the state's been drawing

477
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Speaker 10: this line in the sand for a while. I don't

478
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Speaker 10: think it comes to this just yet. I feel like

479
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Speaker 10: there's a little bit more time before they truly call

480
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Speaker 10: their bluff, but their bluff it's all like the ability

481
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Speaker 10: to call their bluff is going to be based on

482
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Speaker 10: when Indiana is able to pull the trigger and say, hey,

483
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Speaker 10: we have all this in place, we're ready to go.

484
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Speaker 10: All we needed to do is get an approval from

485
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Speaker 10: the team. It's going to take that happening, I think

486
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Speaker 10: for Illinois to believe it truly is the eleventh hour

487
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Speaker 10: and try to get, at least in the city of

488
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Speaker 10: Arlington Heights, try to get the tax breaks that it's

489
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Speaker 10: the team wants because right now they don't pay any

490
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Speaker 10: property taxes on their stadium it's a publicly owned building.

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Speaker 2: That would not be the case when.

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Speaker 10: They are in Arlington Heights, which is why they've been

493
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Speaker 10: trying to negotiate a tax break. And of course taxpayers

494
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Speaker 10: are going to say, it's a billion dollar entity, you

495
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Speaker 10: pay for it. But there's so much more that goes

496
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Speaker 10: into it, with the roads, the infrastructure, all the things

497
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Speaker 10: that it would require to get a stadium built that

498
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Speaker 10: it does kind of feel impossible that there won't be

499
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Speaker 10: some acquiescing if they do end up staying in the

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Speaker 10: state of Illinois to having the state help with some

501
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Speaker 10: of those some of the sub subsidizing the project. There's

502
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Speaker 10: just no way that like one entity could pay for

503
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Speaker 10: all that.

504
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Speaker 1: Do the Bears win on Sunday or do they have?

505
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Speaker 1: They played with fire one too many times.

506
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Speaker 2: I don't have them winning Sunday.

507
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Speaker 10: I think the Rams are the best team in the NFC,

508
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Speaker 10: and I know that they've been not great on defense

509
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 10: in the last four weeks, but it's still a better

510
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Speaker 10: defensive line than the Bears have faced in a long time,

511
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Speaker 10: and Matthew Stafford is playing at an MVP level.

512
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Speaker 2: I think the magic runs out.

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Speaker 10: This week and that they end up having an an

514
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Speaker 10: eleven win regular season. They won a playoff game against

515
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Speaker 10: their arch rival, they did it at home, and I

516
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Speaker 10: think that the Seahawks and the Rams or the NFC

517
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Speaker 10: championship team that we're looking at Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams is an interesting player to me because he's

519
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: a fabulous talent. I mean, I don't think anybody denies that.

520
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Speaker 1: But there was, and maybe unfairly Sody Courtney crowd in

521
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Speaker 1: the esp in Chicago, our guest Java House Peel and

522
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Speaker 1: Port guest line.

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Speaker 4: There was when he was at USC. There were question.

524
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Speaker 1: Marks, I think from people externally just about his overall

525
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Speaker 1: maturity or you know, how serious he was with teammates,

526
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Speaker 1: et cetera, and that maybe was totally unfair. How has

527
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Speaker 1: it been just in terms of Caleb Williams, the person

528
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Speaker 1: and the quarterback with Chicago away from what you see

529
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Speaker 1: the dynamics of the x's and o's.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think he's he's tried to be unapologetically himself.

531
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Speaker 10: So that means painting his nails, drinking macha, doing all

532
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Speaker 10: of the you know, all of the things that make

533
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Speaker 10: him what he is. And I know that that rubbed

534
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Speaker 10: some people the wrong way. That kind of does bend

535
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Speaker 10: the you know, the norms that we have of masculinity

536
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Speaker 10: in sports, and he hasn't seen the care about that.

537
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Speaker 2: But you can really only lean all the way into.

538
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Speaker 10: That if your team is winning and if you're a

539
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Speaker 10: big reason why, which is why you're seeing so much

540
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Speaker 10: more of him being himself in a very public facing

541
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Speaker 10: manner this year than you did when he was a

542
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Speaker 10: a rookie and be they were losing a ton of

543
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Speaker 10: games last year. So I think he's always kind of

544
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 10: pushed the boundaries of who he is and not letting

545
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Speaker 10: football dictate his terms of how he acts and turn

546
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Speaker 10: him into a robot.

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Speaker 2: He's very thoughtful.

548
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Speaker 10: I think most times when you see him at the podium,

549
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Speaker 10: he's trying to give answers that will provide context or

550
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Speaker 10: at least show a little bit of insight into his

551
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Speaker 10: thought process, what's going on behind the scenes, his relationship

552
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Speaker 10: with Ben Johnson, et cetera. But you only see that

553
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 10: because I think he feels comfortable in what he's doing

554
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Speaker 10: this year and with the coaching staff and being in

555
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Speaker 10: a position where he.

556
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Speaker 2: Knows he's going to succeed.

557
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Speaker 10: If he was unstable ground like he was last year,

558
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Speaker 10: I think you'd see a very closed off version of him,

559
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Speaker 10: like you would probably a lot of athletes who are

560
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Speaker 10: struggling to survive in a given team.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's get to Courtney, Cron and my guests, let's

562
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Speaker 1: get to the other thing when it comes to football

563
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: that you look at and you go the x's and

564
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Speaker 1: o's say that we've got to start taking this seriously.

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Speaker 1: And obviously we know about it here in Courtney. You

566
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Speaker 1: know about it because you went to Indiana. We know

567
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Speaker 1: about the miracle of court Signety, we know about IU,

568
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: we know about just how you know what they've done

569
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Speaker 1: this year. They have the three best wins in college

570
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Speaker 1: football realistically speaking. Right However, I'm curious from your standpoint

571
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Speaker 1: doing national radio and being in Chicago, which is the

572
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: melting pot of Big ten fans from all over, do

573
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Speaker 1: you believe that the masses are now one hundred percent

574
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Speaker 1: sold on Indiana or is there still a yeah but

575
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Speaker 1: mentality when absorbing what they've done.

576
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Speaker 2: No, of course not.

577
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Speaker 10: I mean there's still people who won't buy into what

578
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 10: Indiana is doing right now, who you know, go off

579
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Speaker 10: brands the you of like the eighties and the nineties,

580
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 10: like that's fine, and there's I'm not at all criticizing

581
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 10: Miami the current iteration under Mario cristopaal it.

582
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Speaker 2: They deserve to be in the field.

583
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Speaker 10: They are one of the best twelve teams in the country,

584
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Speaker 10: as evident by their path to get to the National championship.

585
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Speaker 2: But I think a lot of fans.

586
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Speaker 10: Like it was a couple of weeks ago when the

587
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 10: Indiana Alabama game was yet to be played, and then

588
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 10: afterwards it's what.

589
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Speaker 2: Does this mean for the SEC? How bad of a

590
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: loss is it to move.

591
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Speaker 10: To Indiana When you're going off rhetoric from five ten

592
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 10: years ago. I think it's lazy, but there's a lot

593
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 10: of lazy sports fans who hold on to narratives that

594
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 10: are convenient for them from a different time in the sport,

595
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 10: a different era in the sport, and their team just

596
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 10: hasn't caught up yet. Like I will use the example

597
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Speaker 10: of the Rose Bowl. The conversation we had on first

598
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 10: take that the next day wasn't about an ole miss

599
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 10: and how great they were and you know, an incredible win,

600
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Speaker 10: the comeback in the fourth quarter, the Kirby Smart meltdown,

601
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 10: it was, well, what does this mean since Georgia and

602
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 10: Alabama are no longer playing, not celebrating your team, your

603
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 10: one team that was remaining, which was moments at that point.

604
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 10: It's looking at the blue bloods of the conference and

605
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 10: whining about that and why they're not in there anymore,

606
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 10: and acting like this is you know, an out is

607
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 10: an outcry for the rest of the conference.

608
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: I didn't that it's lazy. I think that people haven't

609
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: adapted to it yet.

610
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Speaker 10: And it's an ever changing environment in college football to

611
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 10: where the conversation is changing, and if you're not up

612
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 10: to date on it, you're going off of talking points

613
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 10: from years ago. And that's cool, But like Indiana fans,

614
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 10: we know this is not something that was built overnight.

615
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 10: It does feel like a two year process, and it

616
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 10: is because they got the national championship in Kurt Signetti's

617
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Speaker 10: second season.

618
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: But he's gone.

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Speaker 10: About this in a really long, drawn out way where

620
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 10: he was in his mid sixties when he got his job.

621
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 10: That's like the antithesis of how these coaches rise to

622
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 10: the top of their profession. In today's era of college football,

623
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 10: it doesn't happen like that. The bite I heard that

624
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 10: hit me the hard was when he was talking about

625
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 10: working for Nick Saban, because we know so many of

626
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Speaker 10: these coaches, Dan Lanning, Mario Christobal, like you know, all

627
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 10: of them had had ties to Sabin, including sig and

628
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 10: when he's like, I was doing it one way for

629
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Speaker 10: twenty seven years until I met coach Saban and started,

630
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 10: you know, working under him, and it changed my philosophy change.

631
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 10: So I view the game like the thought of that

632
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 10: he did something for twenty seven years that's almost three

633
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 10: decades long, and that doesn't happen in today's college football world,

634
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 10: where coaches move around quickly, players move around quickly, and

635
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 10: the landscape is that of instant sixcessas or at least

636
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 10: the thought of instant success. So I think he's just

637
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 10: different in that sense where it just goes against the

638
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 10: norms of what college football have become, and those who

639
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 10: have not been privy to it are now waking up

640
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 10: to that being part of the conversation where Indiana, of

641
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 10: all teams, is not just it's not the doormat of

642
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 10: college football anymore. It hasn't been for a while. But

643
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 10: the respect that they're getting on the national stage, I

644
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 10: still think it eludes them to a large degree by

645
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 10: people who are holding on to college football of yesteryear

646
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,239
Speaker 10: is probably the appropriate way.

647
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it feels to me, Courtney, And tell me

648
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: if you disagree with this. I was talking about this earlier,

649
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: like the way that Indiana, Indiana was ahead of the

650
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: curve in anticipating the nil collective and how to distribute

651
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: it and how to bring it in more notably, and

652
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: then in addition to that, how to use the portal

653
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: and mesh it with youth and everything else. And so

654
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: Indiana was ahead of the game in that And there's

655
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: no reason to believe that they can't be the trendsetter

656
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: and carry this for a while. But I'm curious if

657
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: we're not going to see little many dynasties, if you will,

658
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: where programs just say, Okay, we're going to push all

659
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: in with a huge windfall of money we just got

660
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: and basically used the portal in nil and recruiting to

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Speaker 1: get a bunch of marquee players for this year and

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Speaker 1: ride that for two to three years, and then you

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Speaker 1: got to kind of wait before the next windfall comes in,

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Speaker 1: and so therefore it will be kind of a road

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense what I'm saying, If you think

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Speaker 1: that's a possibility, I think.

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Speaker 10: We will see that because the playing field has been leveled, and.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's a bad thing.

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Speaker 10: I think that's why those brands, the big ones like Alabama, Georgia.

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Speaker 2: The teams.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I'm just using the SEC as an example,

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Speaker 10: but that's where you hear a lot of the noise

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Speaker 10: coming out about, oh, the transfer portal's ruining everything, NIL,

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Speaker 10: et cetera, et cetera, because they don't get to just

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Speaker 10: have the biggest slice of the pie anymore. It's all

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Speaker 10: been divvied up to where you can have a team

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Speaker 10: like Miami get back to the biggest stage it's been

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Speaker 10: on in twenty three years. You can have a team

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Speaker 10: like Indiana that's never been here become relevant because they

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Speaker 10: played by the current landscape and they made it work

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Speaker 10: for them. I mean, there's plenty of other teams that

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Speaker 10: I think fit that example, Ole miss being one.

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Speaker 2: Of them too.

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Speaker 10: Going to get Trinidad Chamblis out of the portal and

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Speaker 10: the success that they had in his first season, coming

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Speaker 10: off a success that they had last year. I know

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Speaker 10: they weren't a CFP team, but they're still a double

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Speaker 10: digit win team in link even second to last season

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Speaker 10: because they got a portal quarterback and some really good

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Speaker 10: players out of the portal.

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Speaker 2: That's the way you have to do business.

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Speaker 10: You can't keep holding on to well, like look at

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Speaker 10: the reason Clemson has fallen off. And I'm not trying

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Speaker 10: just to take a shot at them because they're low

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Speaker 10: hanging route, but it's it's hard to it's hard to

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Speaker 10: have any respect when there's a coach who's who's crying

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Speaker 10: out about like the old days of college football.

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Speaker 1: I think that Listen, I'm a Clemson fan. They're stuck

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Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, right, Yeah, it's adapter.

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Speaker 10: Die Jake and I think that that's the way that

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Speaker 10: Signette's looked at it. Look at how aggressive they were

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Speaker 10: in the portal, Like in the middle of the of

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Speaker 10: the postseason, they already had won the off season by

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Speaker 10: what they did on January second, one day after the

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Speaker 10: Rose Bowl, when the portal opened up. That's what you

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Speaker 10: have to approach it. And that's why these little mini

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Speaker 10: dynasties you want to call it, that are even not

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Speaker 10: even saying it things have to be a dynasty. You

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Speaker 10: could see teams pop up that win a championship one year,

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Speaker 10: might not be heard from for a while, but are

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Speaker 10: still relevant and in the mix because the playfield has

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Speaker 10: allowed them to go cash in and get talent they

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Speaker 10: they normally would not have.

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Speaker 1: Courtney to think that Indiana when they won and beat

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Speaker 1: Alabama so soundly in the Rose Bowl, immediately and I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying they wouldn't have done this anyway, but they

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Speaker 1: immediately got back on a charter to come back to

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Speaker 1: Bloomington because they had players that were going to be

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Speaker 1: on campus for the portal the next day. And like

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Speaker 1: I said, success is often found not in the preparation

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Speaker 1: for today, but the awareness of tomorrow right and setting

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Speaker 1: yourself up for tomorrow. Lastly, I got to ask, this,

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Speaker 1: is Kyle Tucker really worth sixty million a year for

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers.

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Speaker 10: I mean, the Cubs weren't going to pay that, Like

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Speaker 10: the day that they got Alex Bregman. To me, that

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Speaker 10: started the domino effect of some of these moves that

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Speaker 10: we saw this week, and I did not think that

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Speaker 10: they'd be able to keep both. Obviously, there's the Dansby

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Speaker 10: Swanson of it all. There's the match Shaw of it all,

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Speaker 10: like what happens to him? Can they trade him for

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Speaker 10: an outfielder because they don't need.

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Speaker 2: Him playing third base anymore? Sixty million though.

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Speaker 10: Good for him, Good for him coming to Chicago using

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Speaker 10: last year to get, you know, to get his big deal,

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Speaker 10: because this is probably the last one.

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Speaker 2: His numbers did dip at the.

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Speaker 10: End of the year, and I think that that was

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Speaker 10: kind of when the Cubs were like yeah, like yeah,

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Speaker 10: but no, like thank you for being here for a year.

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Speaker 10: You were great May and June and then things fell off.

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Speaker 10: So sixty million, I mean, the Dodgers are creating their

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Speaker 10: own death star.

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Speaker 2: That's how it happens.

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Speaker 10: I was not surprised when I see that alert from

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Speaker 10: Jeff pass and last night about where he was going

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Speaker 10: in the three team trade.

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Speaker 1: I was hoping Toronto was going to get him. And

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Speaker 1: then I saw sixty million. I'm like, yeah, okay, we're good.

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Speaker 10: Well look at look at Bobachhet. He's getting forty million.

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Speaker 10: That just happened like two hours.

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Speaker 4: That's for the Mets, right, yep, yep.

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Speaker 1: So we shall see big money both in Major League

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Speaker 1: Baseball and college football for that matter. Indiana and Miami

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Speaker 1: National Championship game. Who's just get it done, Corty.

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 10: And that's not just like my own home cooking. But

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Speaker 10: they've outscored their opponents by four one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 10: three points this year. Like they don't make mistakes, they

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Speaker 10: force you, like they did a Dante More on the

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Speaker 10: first freaking play of the game last week. They forced

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Speaker 10: you into making those mistakes and they capitalize on it.

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Speaker 10: I've never heard of stadium and seen a stadium, a

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Speaker 10: neutral site at stadium that loud on one play and

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Speaker 10: have that many people from one team cheering, and it

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Speaker 10: was so cool, it was awesome. May to be a

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Speaker 10: part of it at the Peach Bowl, and I imagine

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Speaker 10: that Miami and Miami knows that. I mean, they're gonna

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Speaker 10: have to get it done on offense because their defense

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Speaker 10: can they can slow the run game, probably not a lot,

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Speaker 10: but they can slow the run game, and they can

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Speaker 10: probably keep it close by winning the battle in the

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Speaker 10: trenches at least in the first half. But Indiana's got

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Speaker 10: too many weapons, don't.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a two touchdown game at the end

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Speaker 2: of it.

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Speaker 1: Courtney, we appreciate the time as always, Bears big one

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Speaker 1: with the Rams, Indiana, Big one with Miami upcoming. I

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Speaker 1: know you will be busy, certainly appreciate the time today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for having me Corney.

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Speaker 1: Cronon again joining us on the Java House Peel and

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Speaker 1: Poor Guest Life.

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Speaker 4: I am at