1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: Live from the Heartland and the Crossroads of America. 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today, not. 3 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 3: Taking vaccines away from anybody. 4 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 4: If the same answer right, you're just going to deny 5 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 4: that when people can't get access, that you're not taking 6 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 4: it away. Then let me ask you, is that the 7 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 4: same game you're going to play with You. 8 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: Want an answer? 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 3: You want me to recommend every product in the world 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 3: that is without any clinical trial. 11 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 4: Data, brough on your promises. 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, my promise was to get it months ago. 13 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 4: We could get covid vaccines by just walk. 14 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 3: You can still get covid vaccines. 15 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: Sator taking that away, you are still you can. 16 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: You still get the cod Care will still be paid 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: for them, and MEDICAIDS will shall The. 18 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 4: Head of the CDC that if she refused to sign 19 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 4: off on your changes to the childhood vaccine schedule that 20 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 4: she had to resign. 21 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 3: Oh. 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 2: I told her that she. 23 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: Had to resign because I asked her, are you a 24 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: trustworthy person? And she said no. 25 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: If you had an. 26 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: Employee who told you they weren't trustworthy, would you ask 27 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: them to resign? 28 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: Centator. 29 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: So Elizabeth Warren losing her head, Bernie Sanders next to 30 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: her losing his head. This is happening as we're talking. 31 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, the hearing with Secondary of 32 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: Healthy Unan Services, Robert F. Kennedy Junior, who I believe 33 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: is winning the day. 34 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: Less than a month. My god, this has been nuts. 35 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: The past couple hours have been as certifiable. Tony Kats, 36 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: Tony Kats today, Good to be with you. If you 37 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: don't have bourbon, my god, what are you waiting for? Well, 38 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: grab something a bourbon, A milkchick, I don't a milkshake? 39 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: Sound good? And listen it came a lot. It's getting 40 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: rough or what changed? 41 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: And by the way, a month ago you were voting 42 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: against her because you thought she was either incompetent, ineligible, 43 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 3: or suited to the taste. 44 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 4: I was afraid she was going to bend the need 45 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 4: of you and Donald Trump. And it looks like she 46 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 4: didn't bend the knee, so you fired her. 47 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: Look you are putting an off his babies. 48 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 4: Oh my god, America's Senior's health at risk, all Americans 49 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 4: health at risk. 50 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: And you should resign. 51 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: Senator Sanders, good guy. They all wanted to resign. He 52 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: ain't going no place. He's winning this fight. A couple 53 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 2: on vaccines and making America help again, the whole thing. 54 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: He's winning the fight. 55 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:42,839 Speaker 5: Now. 56 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: I will tell you that I am not. 57 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: With him, she said on the vaccine conversation. I'm not 58 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: with the Clarida Surgeon General's completely on his conversation because 59 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: I'm not anti vaccine, but certainly the COVID vaccine has 60 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: made everybody very, very skeptical of everything. Let's take an 61 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: out of the Secretary and Senator of Communist Pernie Sandro. 62 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 3: That I fired her because she refused to sign on 63 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 3: in advance for the ACIP committee. No, that's not accurate. 64 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 6: Sorry if you're calling her a lawyer, and I look 65 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 6: forward to her coming before the Help Committee and maybe 66 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 6: this committee as well. All Right, mister the Secretary, I've 67 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 6: got a bunch of questions. Appreciate brevity and answering it. 68 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 6: So he's got a caf beautiful bill through fifteen million 69 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 6: Americans off of health care, substantially raised premiums, and it's 70 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 6: going to have a terrible impact on nursing homes, community 71 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 6: health centers, rural hospitals all over America. Very briefly, it's 72 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 6: not really making America healthy again. 73 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: It's going to have it. It's going to be the 74 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: biggest infusion federal dollars into rural health care in American history. 75 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 6: You know why, because you're cutting one hundred and fifty 76 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 6: billion dollars for rural hospitals. You're punning fifty billion back. 77 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 6: That's not an infusion loss of one hundred million dollar 78 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 6: billion dollars. 79 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: All right, next question. So he's not interested in answers, 80 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: He's just interested. I don't usually. 81 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: Utilized for some kind of campaigns from the history of 82 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: much of what say he wants, Bernie wants a lot 83 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: of time worldwide Communists loves. 84 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: Your money, agrees with Trump. 85 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 6: Lancet study found that it prevented almost twenty million deaths 86 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 6: during their first year of use. Secretary Kennedy, President Trump 87 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,239 Speaker 6: in the medical community, right or do you still believe 88 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 6: that the COVID vaccine was quote the deadliest vaccine ever made. I, 89 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 6: first of all, I didn't say that. 90 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: I said that in terms of of airs reports. 91 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: A while ago. 92 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: I've said today I think that President Trump should get 93 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: to know el Bright. 94 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: So who's right? 95 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 6: Is Trump is the medical community writer? 96 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: Are you right? 97 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 3: President Trump did an extraordinary piece of leadership. Is he right? 98 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 6: Or wrong the COVID say millions of lives. 99 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 3: As I said, he got Americans coming vaccine at that time, 100 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 3: that particular vaccine which perfectly matched the virus that was circulating. Man, 101 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 3: and I have no idea how many lives, say, but 102 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: it's saved quite a few. 103 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 6: You know what I find a little bit weird in 104 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,119 Speaker 6: this discussion. I'm hearing it over and over again this morning, 105 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 6: mister Chairman. 106 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: Is why men are a medical community. 107 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 6: On one side, you have the AMA representing hundreds of 108 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 6: thousands of doctors, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American 109 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 6: Public Public Health Association. All of these organizations are telling 110 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 6: us that COVID vaccine and vaccines in general. 111 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: Are safe and effective. You are casting doubt on that. 112 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 6: Who are your scientific Who are the organizations that are 113 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 6: agreeing with you? 114 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: If you want to go down casting vaccines, the. 115 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 3: The prime Marie advisors are Marty McCarey, jay By to Chara, 116 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 3: doctor Oz. 117 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 6: Then I pursue you've got a few doctors who agree 118 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 6: with you, and I'm giving. 119 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 3: You that a few doctors. What you're talking about, there's 120 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 3: a big difference, Senator, between established science and the scientific establishment, 121 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 3: which has been co opted by the pharmaci hall of it. 122 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 7: So you're telling me, you're to you the American people 123 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:30,239 Speaker 7: that the American Medical Association, representing hundreds of thousands of people, 124 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 7: have been co opted and that they should not trust 125 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 7: their doctors. 126 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: And I'm ract Academy of. 127 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 7: Pediatrics, the American head By the way, just for the record, 128 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 7: every single Republican, I don't mean to be busy establishments 129 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 7: for the farms of no matter what are they all 130 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 7: corrupt as well? 131 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 3: And I'm telling you the American Heart Association has been 132 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: co opted by the. 133 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 2: Everybody but you, Senator. But you know what would you 134 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: read for president? 135 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 6: You know we have a corrupt campaign finance system. 136 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: Maybe you will agree with me on that. Okay, you 137 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: were president, you got a billionaire behind it. 138 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 7: You received three hundred thousand dollars from people, not from. 139 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 6: The industry people in it, as I did it from 140 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 6: individuals you grew up. 141 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: President Trump got three million dollars. 142 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 7: Every Republican got corporate pack money for the pharmaceutical industry. 143 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: Democrats, let's just stop this for a second and get 144 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: into what we're talking about here. He wants to scream 145 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: and yell about something that doesn't matter. It's not even 146 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: a part of the conversation. The question about vaccines is 147 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: a legitimate one. Are we a society that believes in 148 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: vaccines or not. It is clear that there has been 149 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: a posturing from the political left about Robert Kennedy's position 150 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: on vaccines. But he just told you that the COVID 151 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: vaccine put together by Operation warp Speed for that strain 152 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: of COVID save lives. That's from Robert F. Kennedy Junior. 153 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: You heard it. That's not a guy who's anti vaccine. 154 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: Are we discussing being opposed to the idea of a 155 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: vaccine in general, or are we discussing the idea whether 156 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: or not we can. 157 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: Discuss a vaccine. 158 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: If you tell me that the medical establishment approves of this, 159 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to question the medical establishment. The scientific 160 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: establishment told me that the sun revolves around the Earth, 161 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: and then one guy said, ah. 162 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: But the establishment said that doesn't mean anything to us. 163 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: If you tell me there's an establishment of doctors, some 164 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: medical board that says it's okay to mutilate children and 165 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: tell boys they can be girls, doesn't make it right, 166 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: makes it insane, And tell that board to go, you know, 167 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: pound sand or something far worse than that. 168 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: So that's not an argument. 169 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: What Bernie Sanders is putting forth is not an argument 170 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders is trying to put forth is let's discredit 171 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: the guy as opposed to discussing what the guy is saying. 172 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: Robert F. 173 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior is on the political left. I didn't support 174 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,599 Speaker 1: him for Secretary of Health and Human Services. I still wouldn't. 175 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: But is there any question on whether or not when 176 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: it comes to this whole Maha thing, he's winning. 177 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: Make America Healthy Again is winning. 178 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: Later you'll hear me on the Sean Spicer show. I 179 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: was on the show, and he does a thing where 180 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: he picks winners and losers, and I won't give you 181 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: the loser. 182 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 2: You'll have to watch the show yourself. But my winner 183 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 2: was Robert F. Kennedy Junior. Because this thing is working, 184 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: moms are in, parents are in. 185 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: Finally somebody realizes that my kid is ingesting crap and 186 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: I can't be. 187 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 2: With them all day long. 188 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: And maybe if we can regulate other things, we can 189 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: do something about this. Now that it's for the vaccines, 190 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm in a very different place and I'll get into 191 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: it with. 192 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: What happened with the Florida Surgeon General. They will no 193 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: longer have. 194 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: Vaccine mandates in Florida. Allow me for just a moment, 195 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: Let me start with a baseline. I believe vaccines work. 196 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: I believe we have a healthy society in regards to 197 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: mom's measles, rebella, smallpox. 198 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 2: It's however you want to call it, all the things 199 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: you want. 200 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: To list, because we have shown that these things do work, 201 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: and time is on our side. And yes there have 202 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: been cases of adverse reactions, but in the main, the 203 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: total health of the society, we are better off. I 204 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 1: absolutely from the doctors I talk to, purely anecdotal, the 205 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: COVID vaccine worked, and they believe in the patients they 206 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: dealt with saved lives. We can disagree about that if 207 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: you want. The place where we agree wholeheartedly is the 208 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: idea that Americans should be allowed to discuss these things, 209 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: and they were kept from doing so by the so 210 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: called medical establishment that wanted to vilify you, especially if 211 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: you were a doctor. Nurses are heroes. Nurses won't take 212 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: the vaccine. Nurses are villains that establishment, that low class, 213 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: low rent, fickle establishment. Those are the people you want 214 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: me to believe, of course, you're allowed to discuss whether 215 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: or not vaccines work here on the live stream. I 216 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: am for vaccines. That's from Angry Vulcan, what a name. 217 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: I am for vaccines as long as third parties can 218 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: look into its veracity. Okay, sure, as long as we 219 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: as grown ups, as Americans, as adults can have a 220 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: conversation about these things. And the establishment that burning Sanders 221 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: touts and loves and adores Bernie Sanders said no, I 222 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: should say that establishment said no. That establishment said you 223 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: can't discuss it. They forced social media into not allowing 224 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: the conversations. Tell me how we were better off? How 225 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: were we possibly better off? The answer is we weren't. 226 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: We just weren't. So we're gonna have this conversation. Let's 227 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: have the totality of the conversation, and let's take a 228 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: look exactly at how aggressive the progressives are against RFK. 229 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: I remember, they don't hate him because of his vaccine stance. 230 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: They hate him because he's a Democrat with the last 231 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: name Kennedy, connected to their idols who sided with Trump. 232 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: And you more from this hearing coming up. Keep it here. 233 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Kats today. 234 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 8: Investments in mental health care and in some important those 235 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 8: small things to reduce access to guns. What do you 236 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 8: do you propose cutting that funding. This is what we're 237 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 8: talking about in your lead. It's still going on kind 238 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 8: of health and Human. 239 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: Services if you want. It's hearing with trans currency with 240 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 2: Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. K Jr. 241 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: And their center, Tina Smith of Minnesota saying, you went 242 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: on to Fox News and said the shooting at Assincione 243 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: Annunciation School was about anti depressants, and RFK Junior. 244 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: Is like, you're a liar. 245 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: You just made that up. I didn't say that you're 246 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: a liar. You're you're just manipulating this, that and the other. 247 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 2: You're disgusting. It's it is something else. 248 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: The blowing up of drug boats will continue until morale improves, 249 00:13:54,280 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: so says uh. The Secretary of State that is Marco 250 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: Rubio Good. This is excellent, this drug boat that comes 251 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: from Venezuela. And I do support the moves being made 252 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: on Venezuela. That you have Nicholas Maduro who took over 253 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: for the thug Hugo Chaves, who is as sending the 254 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: most violent criminals possible to the country to the United States. 255 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: You're trying to disrupt the United States. You are leading 256 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: to the deaths of children in the United States. We 257 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: should treat you like an Arco terrorist, which is exactly 258 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: what Marco Rubio said. 259 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: We should treat. 260 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: You like somebody who is a member of any cartel, 261 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: and we s would be absolutely unafraid. 262 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 2: To do so. 263 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: And if that means going after you criminally or going 264 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: after you militarily. 265 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: So be it. 266 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: You lead this rogue nation that you've turned into a 267 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: rogue nation. You're attacking the United States. I mean, I 268 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't actually mind the declaration of war in the conversation. 269 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: That's really where I think Trump wants to go. But 270 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: certainly you could say, if you're bringing drugs to the 271 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: United States, you're trying to kill American citizens. 272 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: We don't allow you to do that. 273 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: Boom, we just blow the whole thing up. What eleven 274 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: Venezuelan died on the boat? Oh well, what's for lunch? 275 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: When you tell me that eleven trend de Aragua gang 276 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: members blew up on a boat. You know what I 277 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: say to you, I could go for some brisket if 278 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: you could just order me, order me some brisket. And 279 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: although I like Coleslaw with the brisket, I like I 280 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: like the flavors mixed together, the cool and the hot 281 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: and the sweet. 282 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: And the yeah, just yeah. No pounds, he look at me. 283 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: I gonna have a half pound? What am I a child? 284 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: Not gonna I bet not make it two pounds, any 285 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 2: little something for later. That's what I'm gonna say. 286 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: Gonna feel bad for these people, Absolutely not, Marco Rubio saying. 287 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: The point is the president of the United States is 288 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: going to wage war on narco terrorist organizations. This one 289 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: was operating in international waters headed towards the United States 290 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: to flo our country with poison, and under President Trump, 291 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: those days are over. Yes and good. This is correct, 292 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: This is accurate. It is not about getting over aggressive. 293 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: It's not about getting over over their skis at all. 294 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: The Trump administration is not doing anything wrong here. 295 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: At all. In any way. As a matter of fact, 296 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. 297 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: How this isn't a position that doesn't get cheers. This 298 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: is the right position to take. We are under attack 299 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: when it comes to fentanyl, when it comes to these 300 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: other drugs, and therefore we need to do something about it. 301 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: This is the right maneuver from beginning to end. And 302 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: just like we see these cities just not be willing 303 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: to say we have a drug problem, we have a 304 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: gang problem, we have a violence problem. 305 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: We need help fixing this. 306 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: Why don't they just ask the Trump administration for help 307 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: and make these cities better. They want to be on 308 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: the side of everything's fine, Trump bad. That's the only 309 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: side they want to be on. They want to be 310 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: on the side of every fine Trump bad. The only 311 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: argument they have is Trump bad. It's it clouds it, 312 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: hate rots the brain, it makes one foolish. Stop the 313 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: drugs before they get into the country, stop them. 314 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: Where they are. 315 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: Somebody asked me, what about going into Mexico. So I've 316 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: made the argument before that. 317 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 2: If we really believe there, if. 318 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: We don't think we can stop the the drug trade, 319 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: the attack the cartels as we're doing it, I think 320 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: we should move three miles into Mexico, whether Mexico likes 321 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: it or not, create a DMZ and let's bring back 322 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: the landmines. Now you say to me, Tony. 323 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 2: That is obscene, that is insane. 324 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: What the heck are you talking about. I will also 325 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: accept a mote. I forget the comic who said it 326 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: should be a river of ass and every now and 327 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: again we just light it on fire. You best not 328 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: be crossing, and the left will say to me, you're 329 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: despicable and disgusting and look how violent. I believe that 330 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: we are a nation that should be protected from those 331 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: who want to do us harm. And cartels want to 332 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: do us harm, and I, whether you like it or not, 333 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: are offected by it or not, or clutch of pearls. 334 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: I'm offering those people a solution. What's their solution? Take it, 335 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: Let your. 336 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 2: Kids die from fentanyl, blow up the. 337 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: Boats, tell the cartel if they can go sell in China, 338 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: fast of luck. 339 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: This is Tony Kats today. 340 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: For vaccine information that Quador friend will not give us. 341 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 2: For seven months. 342 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 9: I ask you this question just because you know the answer. 343 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 9: What is mister Guyer doing. 344 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 3: He is the only one, because Congress or the CDC 345 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: to open up the VSD to him in two thousand 346 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 3: and two, he's the only outsider who has ever seen it. 347 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 2: Because because. 348 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:15,239 Speaker 9: Miss Secretary, is he participating in this? Then no, you 349 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 9: just said he's the only dude that knows what here? 350 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 3: Do you want me to explain it to you, Senator. 351 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 6: You. 352 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 9: Just want to show I'll submit. 353 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 3: You just want to show bud for your ads? Or 354 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 3: do you want to hear a real answer to your question? 355 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 9: You you choose to know answers to questions with some colleagues. 356 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 2: I'm going to answer the answer. Someone should have asked you. 357 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 9: Maybe President Trump should have asked you, are you a 358 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 9: trustworthy person? I should have waited for an answer, then. 359 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: Let's I don't want to know what you're talking about. 360 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 9: If you're talking gibberish, mister secretary, let me speak. This 361 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 9: is Senator Lejohn and clearly so that you can. 362 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 2: Try to take on Robert F. Kennedy Jr. And it's 363 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 2: not going right. Can you understand me? 364 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 3: Yes? 365 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 2: Appreciate that, mister secretary? Yes or no? Did you hire 366 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 2: mister Geyer? He's looking he's looking like a fool. Is 367 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 2: the senator? Mister chairman? 368 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: RFK looks good in all of this. These people look 369 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: like children. It's because these people are children. Tony Katz, 370 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: Tony Kats today, good to be with you. I swear 371 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: this wasn't my plan for the show. I wasn't gonna 372 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: get into this. I didn't realize he was testifying, but 373 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,479 Speaker 1: he's testifying on the healthcare gender President Trump, and the 374 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: entire argument the left wants to make is you're not 375 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: qualified and you don't have qualified people, as if only 376 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: the people in the establishment are qualified people. Now, I 377 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: have said many times I didn't support RFK, then I 378 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't golf for his nomination. Now, but he's winning this, 379 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: He's winning this conversation with America. He's winning this argument 380 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: with the left that isn't even engaged in a rational argument. Rather, 381 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: what they're engaged in solely and exclusively nothing else. What 382 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: they are engaged in is anything Trump says we are 383 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: opposed to. 384 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: I've got this a troll on the live stream. 385 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: If you go to a YouTube search of Tony Katchuc 386 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: see the live stream. 387 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 2: How are you supporting them socialists? 388 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: Now, it's one of these guys who believes he's, you know, 389 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: all about the he's above it all. 390 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 2: I can recognize when someone's doing well. 391 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: I can recognize when a conversation being had about vaccines 392 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: is valuable. More conversation is better, very conservative principle. I 393 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: can recognize when someone is getting the support of the 394 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: American people regarding the health of children. Yeah, I'm capable. 395 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: Some people aren't. We call them trolls of mine. That's 396 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: all there is to it. But let me let me oh, 397 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: they're still screaming. 398 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 9: Because they're explained the secretary's tenure. Here, Look, two young 399 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 9: ladies in Las crusiast you met, go to town hall. 400 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: I don't need to hear about the two young ladies 401 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: at the Texas town hall. Let me share with you 402 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: some of the things that took place at this I 403 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: mean it got. 404 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 2: Rough and tumble right here. This was with Senator Cantwell. 405 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: Oh my, oh goodness, gracious Maria Cantwell, it got. 406 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 2: Super ugly. Answered. 407 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 10: No, you're saying that there are problems with what was interpreted. 408 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 10: You could say, yes, do you succeed the presidence. 409 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 3: Deserves a Nobel prize. But all m r NA scenes 410 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 3: that we're working on, the ones that we canceled, which 411 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 3: are for upper respiratory infections alone, you are. 412 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 10: You canceled five one hundred million dollars of research because 413 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 10: the mr INNA technology is about continuing the research to 414 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 10: be ready for the next flu influenza, the next pandemic, 415 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 10: and you have to do I'm. 416 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: Happy to do. 417 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 3: We have a detailed discussion with you. 418 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 2: You're so wrong. 419 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 10: Your interrupted me, and sir, you're a charlatan, that's what 420 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 10: you are. You're the ones who conflate chronic disease with 421 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 10: the need for vaccines. The history on vaccines is very clear. 422 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 10: This is the twentieth century. That's how many people had 423 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 10: vaccines and had illnesses. This is the twenty first century. 424 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 10: This is the decrease ninety nine percent down to one 425 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 10: hundred percent. This is what was delivered with vaccines. And 426 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 10: you don't want to support that. You don't want to 427 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 10: support that evidence. So yes, the governors of the West, Washington, Oregon, 428 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 10: and California will take up the efficacy of science. Yes, 429 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 10: the University of Washington will deliver the science that America 430 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 10: will depend on because you don't want to depend on it. 431 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 2: In his own Surgeon General call him people charltons. 432 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: Charlatan is pretty messed up, and it's pretty messed up 433 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: to say that to the secretary, is that what's happening? 434 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: Present your information? No problem, And again I'm a guy 435 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 1: who favors vaccines. But charlatan for having honest conversations of 436 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: whether or not we're engaging the data properly. If I 437 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: take a look at the data you tell me from 438 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: big cities and left leaning cities crimes down. But in 439 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: some cities you didn't submit all the information. So how 440 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: do we know to trust that number. There's a problem there, 441 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: And an open conversation, Helps. 442 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 10: Of the Trump administration said, over two million lives were 443 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 10: saved because the mRNA technology, and you don't want to 444 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 10: continue that. You don't want to continue that technology. So 445 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 10: what country is going to now take up that technology lead? 446 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 10: What country is going to do that? Leaving us more 447 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 10: vulnerable to some other country keeping the advantage on having 448 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 10: the best technology. So I'm telling you I represent a 449 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 10: state that's about technology. I have two other quick questions. 450 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: We don't need to hear your other questions. You could 451 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 2: agree with her. 452 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: You could agree with her that we should be people 453 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: very focused on mRNA technology, but this would be about 454 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: a debate. What they are saying is there's only one 455 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: way to think. Even if I agree, it is impossible 456 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: that these people could say, well, here's what you're saying, 457 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: here's what we're saying. This is Senator Barasso, Republican, Wyoming. 458 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 5: Thanks missing, Thanks mister Chairman mis Sacrary. Thanks for Franks 459 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 5: for being with US today. I believe one of President 460 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 5: Trump's greatest achievements was his bold and successful actions on COVID. 461 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 5: When faced with a global pandemic, he didn't back down. 462 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 5: He was determined to find a cure, and through Operation 463 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 5: Warp Speed, a vaccine was developed and distributed quickly, safely, effectively, 464 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 5: and I believe it saved. 465 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 2: Many, many lives. 466 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 5: I think it's a model of American ingenuity and public 467 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 5: private partnership. 468 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: But this wasn't the first. 469 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 5: Time an American president acted boldly to address disease in vaccines. 470 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 5: There's a great book that's out as a prize winning 471 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 5: book called The Fate of the Day by Rick Atkinson, 472 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 5: and he talks about the courageous efforts by George Washington 473 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 5: during the Revolutionary War. George Washington reversed his opposition to 474 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 5: the smallpox vaccine and he ordered that all the soldiers 475 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 5: be vaccinated. It was among the most consequential decisions Washington 476 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 5: would ever make. By protecting his troops from smallpox, Washington 477 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 5: preserved the Continental Army, which allowed our nation to continue 478 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 5: to fight for our dependents. And like President Trump, I 479 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 5: believe President Washington acted decisively to protect americans lives at 480 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 5: a time of great national peril. So over the last 481 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 5: fifty years, vaccines are estimated to have saved one hundred 482 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 5: and fifty four million lives worldwide. I support vaccines. I'm 483 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 5: a doctor. Vaccines work. Secretary Kennedy, and your confirmation hearings, 484 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 5: you promised to uphold the highest standards for vaccines. 485 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: Since then, I've grown deeply concerned. The public has seen. 486 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 5: Measles outbreaks, the leadership in the National Institute of Health 487 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 5: questioning the use of mRNA vaccines. The recently confirmed Director 488 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 5: of Centers for Disease Control and Prevention fired. Americans don't 489 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 5: know who to rely on. You know, recent pulse at 490 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 5: eighty nine percent of voters. Eighty one percent of Trump 491 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 5: voters agree vaccine recommendation should come from trained physicians, scientists 492 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 5: for public health experts. So they believe, you know, Senator Marshall, 493 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 5: Senator Cassidy, they believe me when it comes to vaccines. 494 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 5: If we're going to make America healthy again, we can't 495 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 5: allow public health to be undermined. 496 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: That's how you have a conversation. 497 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: That's a Republican saying, hey, I think this is happening, 498 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: I think this is value. But I think we're doing this, 499 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: let us discuss it. No one's calling anybody a charlatan, screaming, yelling. 500 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: The rest. 501 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: Just people having a conversation. What's best. How do we 502 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: make this work? And I am one of those people 503 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: who wholeheartedly agrees, wholeheartedly agrees. 504 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 2: We were better off with the COVID vaccine then without. 505 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: We were not better off with not being able to 506 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: have a conversation about the COVID vaccine. That's where the 507 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: difference is now. I do have a bunch more to 508 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: get to. But man, you want to talk about how 509 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: this thing went. This was Senator Kennedy. There's so much 510 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: that took place in the last couple hours, back and 511 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: forth with Senator Ron Wyden, oh my. 512 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 2: About anything you've done or plans to change it. And 513 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 2: my last comment. 514 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 11: Is I hope that you will tell the American people 515 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 11: how many preventable child deaths are an acceptable sacrifice for 516 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 11: enacting an agenda that I think is fundamentally. 517 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 2: Cruel and defies common sentence. 518 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 3: Thank you the term I do. I got to reply, lawyer, Senator, 519 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 3: You've said in that chair for how long twenty twenty 520 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 3: five years? While the chronic disease and our children went 521 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 3: up to seventy six percent, and you said nothing. You 522 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 3: never asked the question why it's happening. Why is this 523 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 3: happening today? For the first time in twenty years, I'm 524 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 3: going to learn that infant mortality has increased in our country. 525 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 3: It is not because I came in here, is because 526 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 3: of what happened during the Biden administration that we're going 527 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 3: to end. 528 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: I'm going that's just brutal, A solid, solid, solid response 529 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: from the Secretary. 530 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 2: It's going to continue. 531 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: I have a lot to get to, including whether or 532 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: not the National Guards going into Chicago and. 533 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 2: Whether or not it should. I mean, Illinois is very 534 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 2: different than. 535 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: Washington, d c oh and they paid Barry Wise two 536 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. The story is just absolutely spectacular and 537 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: hope for us all. 538 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. 539 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 5: Sure update on how the clinical trials are going, what 540 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 5: plans you might have work in the works to increase 541 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 5: the number of clinical trials as it pertains to Senator Todd. 542 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 2: Young of Indiana, and I asked any questions. 543 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 3: To there Kennedy a project fund at a long cood 544 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 3: project and an I age. There was a huge amount 545 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 3: of money you spent on a yielded nothing. I agree 546 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 3: with that, right, and I think you know that we 547 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 3: are doing now a different coach. We're launching a long 548 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 3: COVID consortium. We're bringing together the best doctors in the 549 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 3: country who have developed reputations for being able to treat 550 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 3: long COVID, and one of them is a doctor that. 551 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 2: Actually doctor Bruce Patterson. 552 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 3: Bruce Patterson and then doctor Jordan Fallen, also from Florida. 553 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 2: Now, you can say anything you want about COVID you want. 554 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: You can say that it did not kill the people 555 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: in in the measures that we engage levels of fear on. 556 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: We can discuss all that, and I'll agree with you 557 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: on a great number of things. 558 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 2: I'm there early on in COVID, right. So I was doing, 559 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 2: first of all, Tony Kats, Tony Kats today. 560 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: I was doing the morning show and doing this and 561 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: after about a month month and maybe two, I'll say 562 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: two months, I stopped reporting the numbers because if the 563 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: numbers aren't accurate, we're talking about people who died from 564 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: COVID as if they died from COVID, and we're not 565 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: discussing comorbidities. If somebody had hypertension, if somebody was X 566 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: number pounds overweight, if somebody had diabetes, somebody had this, 567 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: that and the other, and then they got COVID and 568 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: they died. 569 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 2: Are we really. 570 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: Saying it was COVID that killed them? I'm sorry, I'm 571 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: not I'm not buying into that. I'm not doing that. 572 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that that's factual. How many people 573 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,959 Speaker 1: died of actual COVID versus how many people died of 574 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: COVID in connection to all these other things that were 575 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: killing them. And I think once you'd go through that data, 576 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: you'll find that the young number of people who actually 577 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: died from. 578 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 2: COVID very very small in relation. 579 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: But something that is true, and to deny it is criminal, 580 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: is long COVID. There are people who got this thing 581 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: and they are still dealing with I have friends who 582 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: still don't have their sense of smellback. I have friends 583 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: who they're feeling fine, they're feeling terrible, they're feeling fine, 584 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: they're feeling terrible, and they're like, this did not happen 585 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: before COVID. I think this is a place of agreement, 586 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: or at least, or at least it should be. Then 587 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: you've got this, and I'm gonna dig into more of this. 588 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: You've got a group of judges, anonymous federal judges, Sorry, 589 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 1: that's insane, criticizing the Supreme Court for overturning lower court 590 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: rulings and siding with the Trump administration with little to 591 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: no explanation. So NBC News puts this story out and 592 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: that they spoke with twelve federal judges who pointed to 593 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: a trend of lower court decisions being overturned by emergency 594 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: rulings from the High Court, and ten of the twelve 595 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 1: argued that the Supreme Court should offer more explanation, saying 596 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 1: it's inexcus usable. They don't have our backs. They're not 597 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: supposed to have your back. They're supposed to have the 598 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: back of the Constitution. 599 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 2: What the what do you mean your back? 600 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: By the way, any judge who says you have to 601 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: have to another judge, you have to have my back, 602 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: that's a judge who has. 603 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 2: To be off the bench. 604 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: We live sometimes in the truly upside down, the nutty, 605 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: the crazed. 606 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 2: My job. 607 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: If I'm a judge, which by the way, I would 608 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: look great in a robe, and if I was a judge, 609 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: totally no question, powdered wig. 610 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: I know who would ever mess with this hair. But still, 611 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 2: my job is not to have your back. 612 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: My job is to interpret the Constitution to the case 613 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: in front of me, to the very best of my ability. 614 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 1: The Supreme Court shouldn't overturn tell that to plessy versus 615 00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: Fergusoner dred Scott. 616 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry. Maybe you'll have to read a book 617 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 2: to figure that one out. I'm Tony Katz.