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Speaker 2: Well, apparently I found this out Sunday. Eddie White three

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, you mean the Eddie White that we

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432
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: of them treated me like they wanted to help me

433
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 1: along the way, to help my career. And so I

434
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: thought about all of them, knowing that the next wave

435
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: of people that are enjoying that sort of reciprocal relationship

436
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: within that building, yesterday saw it come to an end

437
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: at a surprise to them, which was disappointing, because partnerships

438
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: are important in business and in sport, and Carl Ersa

439
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: Gordon talked about the importance of partnerships when it comes

440
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 1: to a coach and general manager and why exactly there

441
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 1: have not been changes made within the Colts. She elaborated

442
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: on that yesterday, We'll let you hear it next. Sun's

443
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: starting to peek out a little bit, Eddie.

444
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 2: Could I get a little muggy outside?

445
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna lie to you. I should

446
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: spend the day, not necessarily, but there are so many

447
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: things that I learned during my time at Channel six, like,

448
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: for example, before we get into Carli ers Gordon talking

449
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 1: about Shane Steichen and as well Chris Ballad from the

450
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 1: Owner's Meeting Brickyard two thousand and four ish. Okay, it

451
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: was the imperfect storm, some would say the perfect storm.

452
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: If you were in the business of the product that

453
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: I'm about to mention, Oh but my life changed forever.

454
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 2: Do I enjoy this product?

455
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. You may not be aware of said

456
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: product because you haven't maybe reached that old man stage

457
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,959
Speaker 1: in life just yet. Uh oh, but Brickyard, I'm going

458
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: to guess two thousand and four you give or take

459
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: a year or two here there.

460
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: Is it a product that chad Ocho Cinco said he

461
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: wants to use before games?

462
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: Give me the initials have said product?

463
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: Well, it's only one word, stud we know.

464
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: Is it a chad Ocho Cinco admitted using a product

465
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: before games? Yes, okay, is it like did he consume it? Yes?

466
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 2: Yes, this would not be that it would it was

467
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: a it was a pill, not be that he would

468
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 2: take a half dose might all?

469
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: No, okay this was a legal pill?

470
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 2: Or yeah?

471
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: Legal? Yeah? Do you need to consult a doctor if

472
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: if you have too strong an effect from it? Yes? Okay, No,

473
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: not that. It was one of those days I remember

474
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: it like yesterday where it was about seventy five to

475
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: eighty degrees, but the humidity was somewhere ticking around ninety

476
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: eight percent. Muggy as they say, you could cut the

477
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: air with a knife. And back in those days, every

478
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: television station did you know, Breakfast at the Brickyard or

479
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: Sunrise from the Track or whatever that, you know, and

480
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: we'd go on the air at five in the morning

481
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: and go until eleven o'clock sign off, and then the

482
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: race takes place and you're running around the race and

483
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: you're getting sound bites of drivers as they drop out

484
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: of the race, and it's just it's non stop. And

485
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: then you go and you immediately go for a post

486
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: ray show, and then you're sitting around you're cutting tape

487
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: until eleven and just on and on and on, and

488
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: I love.

489
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: It for one month away from me.

490
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: I know, I love everything about it, but I loved it.

491
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: But it was always and especially for the brickyard back then.

492
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: The brickyard's a different animal too, because you just get

493
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: like the the fuel smell and the rubber coming off,

494
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: and it's a different animal.

495
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 2: You better start sleeping, Jake, Yeah.

496
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: I know, catch up now. Bang it. So on that

497
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: particular day in some two thousand and four when my

498
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: life changed forever, I noticed about four o'clock in the afternoon,

499
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: somewhere around three or four, had to kind of walk

500
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: a little more like a col boy, so to speak,

501
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: had to.

502
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: Ah the good old chief.

503
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: I had to kind of do the uh the oh

504
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: the walk and swivel if you will. Huh. The straightforward

505
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: walk was a bit much and seemed as though there

506
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: was shall we say, a little bit of tenderness.

507
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: In uh huh heat rash yep.

508
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: And then I noticed, yep, I noticed that day, my friend,

509
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: that things changed for not just me, but many looked

510
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: across the way and noticed that, Yes, in fact.

511
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: When I was talking about Brandon Phillips, right, we're talking

512
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 2: about BP BP baby powder.

513
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, that's kids stuff. No, no, no, sir.

514
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: So as I'm walking around and I'm looking and I'm

515
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: seeing everybody, I'm noticing that everybody else is also doing

516
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: the uh, the side to side shimmy walk, the side

517
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: to side shimmy walk. That, yes, in fact, says I

518
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: got what we list simply has some chaffing.

519
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: Going had they're not playing the cupa shuffle, that's what

520
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: was going on.

521
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: No, it was. It was brutal, and everybody had it,

522
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: but nobody's wanting to mention it. And Dave first and

523
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: I are like brothers. Dave first and I've been in

524
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: the trenches forever together, and you know, literally, you name it,

525
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: like after races, going and having a cigar together, or

526
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: going on the road, or driving down together, and we

527
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: driving to Super Bowls and driving back in the middle

528
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: of the night. You name it. So Dave and I

529
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: had this understanding of trust amongst us. Finally, by like

530
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: eleven o'clock that night, after we had finally put in

531
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: the can to use that term, pardon the pun, in

532
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: this situation, all of the tapes for the after eleven

533
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: o'clock broadcast of the replay and et cetera, we looked

534
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: at each other and just said, you know, quite frankly

535
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: and quite simply, but I'm hurting. I don't know what's

536
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: going on here. I have no idea what's going on.

537
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: But some little gnome has climbed up along the interior

538
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: of my thigh and has basically a Zippo lighter going

539
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: on here. And this is brutal. So Dave and I

540
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: went ahead and drove to a twenty four hour pharmacy

541
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: and just side shimmied our way up, and the pharmacist

542
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: looked at us and immediately could tell what was going on,

543
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: and before we even got to the counter, he discovered

544
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: right there, or shall I say, allowed us to discover

545
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: for the first time, the miracle of what is the

546
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: gold bond powder. M and I got news for you.

547
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: That first splash of that powder that medicated menthl burn

548
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: woo yep sounded like a member of the lollipop Guild

549
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: for a couple of seconds, But then it cools off

550
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: and before night you're walking a straight line once again,

551
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: and all is right with the world. And I wouldn't

552
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: suggest that you ever used the foot powder like my

553
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: buddy Scott McConnell did erroneously when visiting his in laws

554
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 1: after a round of golf and pulled the sink right

555
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: out of the wall when he put that stuff on.

556
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, that gold bond powder is, that is the

557
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: nectar of the nether Region gods. And that was the

558
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: day my life was changed forever. And you don't find

559
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: to this day, whether it be the mini marathon or

560
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: whether it be a day where it simply is going

561
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: to be a hot one on the golf course, you

562
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: don't find me getting ready for the day without dumping

563
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: a significant amount of that cool mintilated powder right there

564
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: where it counts.

565
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: Are you going to be applying said powder in like

566
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: a handful of weeks when when we're meeting some of

567
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: the listeners of the station.

568
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: Depends on how things are on April thirty through the

569
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: golf outing at the Legends Golf Course down in Franklin.

570
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: But I can tell you this Franciscan Health is going

571
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: to be there to answer your questions, not just about that,

572
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: but more because the Franciscan Health Foundation will benefit from

573
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: the golf outing April thirtieth. We would love to see

574
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: all of you there and I promise if I do

575
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: have the gold bond going on, I'll wash my hands

576
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: before we meet. Got a one on seven five to

577
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: fan dot com for your tickets, uh, Carli Ersee Gordon

578
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: did talk about Shane Stike and Chris Ballard and similar

579
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: to what she had said at the end of the

580
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: year when it comes to the decision to retain both.

581
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: And I think she said I had something that we

582
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: can listen to, we can hear it, and we can

583
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: say that does make sense. But I also think it

584
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: might have been a statement of convenience and I took

585
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: so long with the gold bond that will play your

586
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: carly Next. Several years ago, the Colts made a and

587
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: it was Jim Orsay that made it, I think sometimes

588
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: and it is a It's an odd phenomenon when you

589
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: get to a point in your life where you can

590
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: recall when your parents were the same age, and you

591
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: can look back on things they did, decisions they made.

592
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: And in my case, I'll be honest, I mean, and

593
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: I've been very fortunate in this. There are really no

594
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: things that come to mind to me where I look

595
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: at things my parents did and think, wow, I am

596
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: surprised they did that, or they did that the wrong way.

597
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: But I never worked for my parents per se, but

598
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: for any aspect of it, it is very surreal when

599
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: you reach that point where you say, like, gosh, in

600
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: that memory, my parents were ten years younger than I am.

601
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: Now you know those sorts of things. And in the

602
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: case of Carliers Gordon, you know she has been around

603
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: this franchise for you know, very closely, observing it for

604
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: quite some time. And there are areas where I think

605
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: she may have looked at things and made a mental

606
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: note of them. You know, you see her a lot

607
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: writing down notes, wear in the headsets, writing things down

608
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: and one of the more I'll say infamous for lack

609
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: of a better phrase, surreal is probably the better word

610
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: moments in covering the Indianapolis Colts, and there have been

611
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: for those that have been around, for Mike Chapel, for example,

612
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: I mean, there have been a ton whether it was

613
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: Bob er say, coming into the locker room after a

614
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: game and cutting a tight end on the spot, and

615
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:09,959
Speaker 1: then two days later the Colts re signing said tight

616
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: end and Bober said coming in and saying, are you

617
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: in your tight end? Wait to hear what we did

618
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: the last guy, or Bob ur Say allegedly calling plays

619
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: down from the press box. There's been some bizarre things

620
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: in the history of covering the Colts, going and getting

621
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: Ricky Turner to come in and run the wishbone for

622
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: four games, you know. But one of the more surreal

623
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 1: press conferences happened after hours when all of the media

624
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: were summoned back to fifty sixth Street and we were

625
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 1: awaiting and anticipating the possibility that Chuck Pagotto was probably

626
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: going to be relieved of his duties or Ryan Grigson

627
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 1: was going to be relieved of his duties. We didn't

628
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 1: know which maybe both and Jim Rsey held the press

629
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 1: conference of the famous attached at the hip and he's

630
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: and these were two guys that and let me preface

631
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: by saying, in particular sense their departures with the franchise.

632
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 1: I really like both guys. I like Ryan Grigson. I do.

633
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: Do I think he was a great general manager? Maybe not.

634
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: Do I think he was as bad as people throw

635
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: him under the bus to be. I do not.

636
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 4: Do.

637
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: I think, especially after hearing him out from his side

638
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: of the story, that there is some truth in the middle.

639
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: I do do. I think there were a lot of

640
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: things that many people will never know about that we're

641
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: stacked up against him. I do. And I like Chuck Paganell,

642
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: you know, obviously, and we've seen now in particular, you know,

643
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: with some of the times he's been on this radio station,

644
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: in this show and whatever else. You know, really likable guy,

645
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: solid coach. I remember when they both were hired. I

646
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: ran into both of them completely serendipitously at Ted's Montana grill,

647
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: and they could not have been nice. And this was

648
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: before the draft. They were just getting ready to draft Luck.

649
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: We all knew they were taking Luck, obviously, but over

650
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: the course of time, luck wasn't always on their side.

651
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: And I don't mean the player, I mean the euphemism,

652
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: but there is no doubt that there were differing opinions.

653
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: And I can't even remember. I've talked a lot about

654
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: this with at times both people, really and there were

655
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: differing opinions on a couple of different things between Ryan

656
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: Griggs and Chuck Pagano and I think it may have

657
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: been staff. I can't remember the exact specifics, but Jim

658
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: Mersay held the famous press conference of their attached it

659
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: to Hip, They're attached it to Hip now, and lots

660
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: of tears were shed and we sat down and we

661
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 1: talked our way through it. Jim Irsay was Henry Clay,

662
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 1: he was the great compromiser. He sat down and he said,

663
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: let's figure this out Kumbaya moment, yep and bottom line,

664
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: because you had at that time, you had staggering contracts

665
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: and Pagano, if I'm not mistaken, had a year left

666
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 1: and Gregson may have had two or I don't recall exactly,

667
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: but they went into it then with this understanding of

668
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: on the fly, we're gonna make this work. Because we

669
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: sat down and we got emotional and tears flowed and

670
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: we had a late night conversation and this is going

671
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: to work itself out, and it didn't, and it didn't,

672
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: and then it got kind of ugly and it was

673
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: like what do we do here? And then Gregson was

674
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: the one that got let go. And now you have

675
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: Ballard that comes in and he inherits Pegano and he

676
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: goes through kind of a just you know, an inherited year,

677
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: and then obviously they make that move. You go with

678
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels. That doesn't work, and then you get Frank

679
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: Reich and et cetera, et cetera. My point being long

680
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: winded here is that Carli Gordon witnessed all of that,

681
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: and I think probably one of the things that she

682
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: noticed is you could have a general manager that's a

683
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: ten and a coach that's a six, and they can

684
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: It can work if they're step by step completing each

685
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: other sentences. You could have a coach that's a ten

686
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: and a general manager that's a six, and it can

687
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: work if step by step they complete each other sentences.

688
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: Or you could have a coach that's a ten and

689
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: a general manager that's a ten, and it's a complete

690
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: and total disaster if one sees red and the other

691
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: sea's blue. So that symbiotic nature is so incredibly important

692
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: that I think Carly Ursa Gordon witnessed over the course

693
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: of time that she's been really cognitively sitting there taking

694
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: notes about it, the different variations of what happens with

695
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: the combination of coaching, general manager, and the cohesiveness or

696
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: at times lack thereof that exists. And it does appear

697
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: as though from the outside I'm not inside, but from

698
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: the outside it does appear as though these are two

699
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: guys working together that at times can complete each other's sentences.

700
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: One was brought in by the other and chosen by

701
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: the other, and one seemingly brought the other in because

702
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: he was in step with the style in which that

703
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: one works. And when carl ers Gordon talked about after

704
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: last year and we ran every possible scenario out there,

705
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: do you want both replaced? Do you want one? And

706
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: the other stays do you want this one? And that

707
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: one stays, whichever it might be, she talked about the

708
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: decision to go ahead and go status quo, and perhaps

709
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: precedent played into the thought process.

710
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 5: With Chris and Shane obviously. I think one of the

711
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 5: biggest pieces I always say is, you know, we did

712
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 5: a regression analysis a long time ago about you know

713
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 5: what is sort of the I don't want to call

714
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 5: it the kiss of death for where a general manager

715
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 5: and a head coach don't succeed. And one of the

716
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 5: things that we found is when you simultaneously hire them,

717
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 5: and when you think about it, it makes total sense. So

718
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 5: imagine hiring one person has to do this another person

719
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 5: and you just are like, I hope you get along,

720
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 5: you know, versus I think that you know, Chris with

721
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 5: his tenure with us, I think it was we were

722
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 5: able to go out when we found Shane and really

723
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 5: make sure that we had someone that complimented Chris's style,

724
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 5: and I think I think they have a great relationship.

725
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 5: I love working with them.

726
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing, and that makes sense. She was

727
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: talking to JJ Stankowitz there by the way from the Colts.

728
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: It makes sense. But she also has to know, nor

729
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: do I think she probably keeps her up at night,

730
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: but she has to know that if we are back

731
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: here a year from now having the same discussion, having

732
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: the same breakdown, having the same analysis, then the natives

733
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: are going to be restless.

734
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 2: They are, and she's saying that they are attached to

735
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: the hip or they're not.

736
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: I think she kind of is because what she's saying

737
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: there is to have one, you have to have both.

738
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's interesting because when I

739
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,959
Speaker 2: listen to that, I hear her say that they are,

740
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: but at the same time I also hear the caveat

741
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: of the general manager is not tied at the hip

742
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: of the head coach, but the head coach might be

743
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: tied at the hip at the general manager.

744
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: That's fair. No, that's fair, But yes, I think that's

745
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: right because basically what she is saying is I think

746
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: what she's saying there is whoever the general manager is Eddie,

747
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: the coach has to be one that the general manager

748
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: probably is the one that hires, because if you get

749
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: a coach, you we saw it before Chris Ballard inherited

750
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: a coach and it didn't work.

751
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: One year later he was let go.

752
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: Right, it didn't work, So you have to have you

753
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: just have to have. You know, the coach wouldn't hire

754
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: a general manager. The general manager hires a coach, so

755
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: you have to have it that way.

756
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 2: I also think if you just look at what played

757
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 2: out this offseason with Miami for example, like they fired

758
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 2: Chris Greer their general manager at middle of the year,

759
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 2: and once they got to the end of the year,

760
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins owner was like, yeah, I would like

761
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: to keep Mike McDaniel. And then you start going through

762
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 2: these interviews for potential GMS and you're saying, all right,

763
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: this can be your head coach, and then you come

764
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: to find out it's like, yeah, this isn't gonna work,

765
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: Like I cannot just have somebody that goes over Mike

766
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: McDaniel's as his new boss and just try to patch

767
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: that relationship together. They end up firing Mike McDaniel. They

768
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 2: hired a new GM that GM fire finds as head coach.

769
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: By the way, did you see who got Speaking of

770
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 1: coaches getting hired, did you see who got hired today

771
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 1: by the New York Liberty?

772
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: I did. I didn't recognize him at all.

773
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: I would totally agree, I'm like this guy is that

774
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: this guy? This guy looked like an AI version of

775
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: a college athlete, sculpted, handsome, kind of rugged, but yet

776
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: probably could do it. Look like a former Abercrombie and

777
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: Fitch is that play still around Abercrombie and Fitch. I

778
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 1: think so there was a period there in the late

779
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: nineties and early two thousands where they only hired pretty

780
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: people and they played really loud music as you walk

781
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: past them all and they spring Colonne everywhere. But this

782
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: guy looked like an Abercrombie and Fitch model and or manager.

783
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: But he played basketball. He had tightly cropped hair, he was,

784
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: you know, square jawn. He's a good looking dude, good

785
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: looking dude, and I would imagine that he was one

786
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: of those players that everyone if he was on your team,

787
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: you loved him because he was a little bit cocky,

788
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: And dudes liked him because they kind of admired or

789
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: appreciated the fact that their girlfriend kind of had a

790
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: crush on him, oddly enough, and women all loved him

791
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: because he's a good looking dude and he was a

792
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: good player, and he had some force about him. And

793
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: then he got into coaching and now was hired by

794
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: the New York Liberty. And I literally thought when I

795
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 1: saw the shot that it was looked like some sort

796
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: of a mockumentary movie from the seventies starring Will Ferrell

797
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: about the adult film industry. Just because he has like

798
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: a seventies mustache and kind of long wavy hair. I'm

799
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: not saying he's a bad looking guy, but the photo itself,

800
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: literally I thought it was April fl I had to

801
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 1: double check to make sure it's April Fool's Day. Had

802
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: to double check because I'm like, that's not him. He

803
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: looks nothing thing. He literally looks like he's in witness

804
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: protection program. Tell you who next? Will she?

805
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 2: He?

806
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: Will she? He is on the staff of the New

807
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: York Liberty in the w NBA. He's been in coaching

808
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 1: for a while, though he was with Golden State before

809
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: I believe, right.

810
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had time with Golden State. He was most

811
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 2: recently with the Backen Bears as an assistant coach.

812
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: The Bachan Bears.

813
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: Uh huh b A K K E N.

814
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: Where are the Bacan Bears.

815
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 2: Uh they're I don't know what league is that Denmark.

816
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 1: It's in Denmark.

817
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, it's the top two basketball league in Denmark.

818
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

819
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: I always get confused by this based in our hus.

820
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: Oh really, when they're on the road, they're in your house, right,

821
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm just saying needless to say, I would guess that

822
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: there are the uniforms black. No, really, I thought they'd

823
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: be blacking black.

824
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 2: They are navy blue and black.

825
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: That seems like a missed marketing opportunity.

826
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 2: White. Sorry, Navy silver white. Those are their colors. Somebody

827
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: dropped the ball on that.

828
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: Right. Denmark are Danes and Holland is Dutch. Right. I

829
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: always think Denmark's Dutch, but I think Denmark are Danes, right.

830
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 2: I think you're right.

831
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: The Division two here, let's go over here some of

832
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: the fun facts of the teams that are here for

833
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: the College Basketball Championships because we know of the final

834
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: four that goes without saying, but full slate of games

835
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: and activities around Central Indiana for the NCAA. I remember

836
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: a year ago at the Horizon League Championships at the Fairgrounds,

837
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: they had all of the trophies on display. Division one,

838
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: Division two, Division three, and it was because they were

839
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: going to have all three divisions here in the same

840
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 1: city for the final four, which was very cool. Meaning

841
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: this year, Okay, we'll begin with the championship game for

842
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: Division two, the thirty three and three Gannon Golden Knights

843
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: taking on the Lander Bearcats. Now, Eddie, we got to

844
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: each pick a team on this I guess right is

845
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: this game? Do we know what day? Is? This? On Saturday?

846
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: At one o'clock.

847
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: Should be on that sheath today.

848
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: I gave you to she just said it just says

849
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: at one pm.

850
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 2: Yes, Saturday. Okay, write this down here. All Division two,

851
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 2: Division two, Division three and n IT championship is Saturday.

852
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: Okay, So the championship game one o'clock, the Gannon Golden

853
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: Knights at thirty three and three and the Lander Bearcats.

854
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 1: Lander a public university in Greenwood, South Carolina. And they've

855
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: got you ought to see the mall they have down

856
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 1: there in Greenwood, South Carolina. The park mall wonderful Okay.

857
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: Founded in eighteen seventy two, it was founded as a

858
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: college for women by Samuel Lander as Williamstown Female College

859
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: in Williamstown, South Carolina. They renamed it to Lander College

860
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: in nineteen o four and men were admitted in nineteen

861
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: forty three. It became a university in nineteen ninety two,

862
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: forty four hundred total students on campus. They upset the

863
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: number one overall seed Nova Southern in the semi final.

864
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: No Eastern, excuse me, Nova Southeastern, and they've won fifteen

865
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 1: straight games. Oh their head coach was on Josh Shurtz's

866
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: staff at Lincoln Memorial. They played two seasons at Georgetown.

867
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: The coach played two seasons at Georgetown, transfer to the

868
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: University of Tennessee Chattanooga. Okay, so that's everything we need

869
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: to know about Lander the Bearcats. After this, Eddie, you're

870
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: gonna pick one. I'm gonna pick one. Okay, We're gonna

871
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: bet ourselves some ice cream.

872
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm serious. Some ice cream?

873
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: Was that he said? Yeah?

874
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 2: Okay, it's the last.

875
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: Time you went out for a nice scoop ice cream.

876
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 2: Whenever Dairy Queen was doing their free scoop or their

877
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 2: free cone day. Okay.

878
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: University not named for rich private university in Erie, Pennsylvania,

879
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: established in nineteen thirty three. Gannon was established as the

880
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: two year Cathedral College by the Diocese of Erie. And

881
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: by the way, the only thing I know about that town,

882
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: it's very strange. In nineteen thirty three, the school became

883
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: the first a four year men's school. Gannon College of

884
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: the Arts and Sciences, that became co ed in nineteen

885
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: sixty four, gained university status in nineteen seventy nine. So

886
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: that's all we know about Gannon. Where Eddie clearly got

887
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 1: tired of doing the research after learning everything you could

888
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: ever want to know about the Lander bearcat.

889
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 2: Well, I was doing a little bit of like research.

890
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, Gannon didn't really have an upset to

891
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 2: get to the National championship game for Division two. They

892
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 2: don't have any.

893
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: Thirty three days. Okay, So of the two, you get

894
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: to pick one here, and then if you pick the

895
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: one that I want that I'm going to override you.

896
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: Would you like Gannon to root for? Are you written

897
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: for Lander?

898
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 2: I can consider myself a noble steed sometimes, Jake, So

899
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,479
Speaker 2: I will be the I'll take the Gannon go to Knights.

900
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: Okay, good, I'll take Lander because I like the fact

901
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: that they're down in South Carolina. That's one of my

902
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 1: favorite states.

903
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 2: Beautiful South or beautiful state.

904
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 4: Yeah.

905
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: And I like the fact of the barrica. Are barcat's

906
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: real animals or is that that's not a fictional that's

907
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: a real animal.

908
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: I think it's a real animal.

909
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: Bobcats are real. Bearcats are fake? Right?

910
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 2: I thought they were the same thing.

911
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 1: Are you sure?

912
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 2: I don't know?

913
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: Can you look that up? Are barricats are bobcats? Just

914
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: bearcats named Bob because we had a sound effect. Once

915
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: Mark Dyton had a bobcats and I think it was

916
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: a guy named Bob.

917
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: Just bearcats are real animals.

918
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 1: They are Where do they live?

919
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: South and Southeast Asia?

920
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: What the hell are they doing in South Carolina? No idea?

921
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 2: Okay?

922
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: Or Cincinnati for that, you know?

923
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe the humidity. The humidity sometimes in South Carolina

924
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 2: they feel like they're in you, Southeast Asia.

925
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: Do you think they use gold bond?

926
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 2: I don't. I would hope not.

927
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 1: Okay. So that's that's what we got for Division two.

928
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: Now to Division three and this fun exercise that we're

929
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 1: doing here. Okay, h the championship game of Division III.

930
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: The University of Mary Washington Eagles. They're twenty nine and

931
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: three taking on Emory, who is twenty seven and three.

932
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: The University of Mary Washington a public liberal arts university

933
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: in Fredericksburg, Virginia, founded in nineteen o eight. Established in

934
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: nineteen o eight at State Normal and Industrial School for women.

935
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: What is the state What is the normal purpose?

936
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: I don't know? What is I don't know?

937
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm dating a new goal. Where's she go to school? Well,

938
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: she goes to school there at University of Mary Washington. Well,

939
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 1: thank goodness, at least we know she's normal. Don't go

940
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: to the other school. Those girls are all crazy, but

941
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: the normal one and she is industrial. Also, she gets

942
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: after it. I know. That's what's great about it. You know,

943
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: buddy of mine's dating one of the girls from the

944
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: crazy school. But I've got the industrial one. She's a

945
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: little more brass tacks. Okay, that's in Fredericksburg, Virginia. Eventually

946
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: became known as Fredericksburg Teachers College, eventually named Mary Washington

947
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: College in nineteen thirty eight after George Washington's mother didn't

948
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: she also make mashed potatoes? I don't know, okay, Uh,

949
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: it was changed to University of maryor okay two thoughs

950
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: foar I said that forty one hundred total students. They

951
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: played Trine earlier this season trials here in Indiana, right, yes, okay,

952
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: seventy two Rolling Thunder is that what they're called?

953
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Trial. I think they're just called the Thunder.

954
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: But they ever had Garth Brooks sing the national anthem

955
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: for them?

956
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 2: They should?

957
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: I know, all Right, Emory University. I feel like there's

958
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: an Emory University everywhere, right, I feel that way too.

959
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: Emory University is a private research university in Atlanta, Georgia

960
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: that's been around. I mean, this is a pretty well

961
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: known school. Been are out since eighteen thirty six, sixteen

962
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: thousand total students on campus. They've won thirteen consecutive games.

963
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 1: Their head coach is Jason Zimmerman. In his sixteenth season.

964
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: He's the school's all time winning his coach. He's a

965
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: native of Warsaw, Indiana.

966
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 2: Huh.

967
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: It's been eleven seasons as an assistant in Division one

968
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: was at Evansville and three to four under Steve Murfeld.

969
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: Remember who's the little they got lifted off the floor

970
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 1: after they beat Iowa State when he was at Hampton.

971
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter is a native of Emory or excuse me,

972
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: and alum of Emory. Which school of these two are

973
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: you rotten for?

974
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 2: I figured you would want University of Mary Washington just

975
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 2: because of the aspects of George Washington.

976
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 1: I kind of prefer the crazy women the normal women,

977
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: not as exciting. But I'll go with it.

978
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: If you need me to, right, So I'll take Emory.

979
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: So okay, So so in our ice cream wager here, Now,

980
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: what if we split we both get banana splits. Yes,

981
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: so I've got Mary Washington okay, and the Mary Washington Eagles. Now,

982
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: now this is these are men's games, right, yes, okay,

983
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: because I mean I don't want just a bunch of

984
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: normal women out there running an offense. Okay. Then and

985
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 1: then in the other game, I've got Lander, right, I'm

986
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: all in on Lander.

987
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

988
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: Now, are you going to confess a rooting interest in

989
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 1: the two semi finals games at the Division one level?

990
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 2: I will confess a rooting interest.

991
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: You'll go with who are you rooting for? Between Illinois

992
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: and Connecticut?

993
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 2: I might be in the minority here Connecticut, Okay, that's.

994
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: Who I picked in my bracket. You remember, at the

995
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: beginning of the year, did I not say on this year,

996
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: at ginning of the year, that's pretty the beginning of

997
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: the tournament. Did I not say the beginning of the

998
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: tournament Connecticut was going to win the whole thing?

999
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't doubt you.

1000
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: Which if they don't win, you'll never hear me mention again. Okay.

1001
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: And then Michigan Arizona give.

1002
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 2: Me the Wildcats bear down?

1003
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: Okay. I mean, it's hard to go against Dusty May,

1004
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: it is, but it is Michigan.

1005
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 2: I'm in a huge bracket pool, Jake, of like one

1006
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty to two.

1007
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: He's still in that survivor pool deal. Yes, are you really? Yes?

1008
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 2: But Duke losing kind of hurt me because the only

1009
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 2: team I have left now is Arizona. So if I

1010
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 2: get Arizon on a correct against Michigan, I don't have

1011
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 2: a team in the championship game. The plan was going

1012
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 2: to take Duke in the Final four, Arizona in the

1013
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 2: championship game. Okay, I got you. Yeah, upsetting.

1014
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: Speaking of upsetting, I want to get back into something

1015
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: I talked about just about an hour ago.

1016
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 2: I do have a quick follow up with the whole

1017
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 2: NCAA thing, real quick, Jake. Somebody texted this earlier on

1018
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: the text line. I just wanted to get to it

1019
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 2: now since we're talking about all the events that are

1020
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: going on in terms of games. Do you think this

1021
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 2: could be a precursor to the NCAA trying to have

1022
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 2: the women's Final four in the men's Final four in

1023
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 2: the same city. Is it feasible or logistical? They know

1024
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 2: what Annapolis could host both at the same time.

1025
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: We can ask Julie rol Ash that Honestly, that's a

1026
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: great question. She's going to join us at two o'clock, right, Yes,

1027
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: she's got to help put this together, even though she's

1028
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: with Pacer Sports Entertainment. Now, you know perfect to ask

1029
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: her that. That's a good question. I don't know, it's

1030
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,479
Speaker 1: it seems like that would be logistically really hard.

1031
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 2: But I mean, with all these teams here, I was

1032
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 2: about to say, think about it, you've got to You've

1033
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 2: got an T Division two, Division three all here this weekend.

1034
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: Now the n I T by the way, tomorrow night

1035
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: New Mexico and Tulsa at seven o'clock at Hankle and

1036
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: then Illinois State and Auburn at nine thirty. I may

1037
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: have to go to the New Mexico game, just because

1038
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: when I went to the pit with Byron and we

1039
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: did a tour of the pit, the guy took us

1040
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: all the way through and then took us in and

1041
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: let us pick up merchandise that they were they were

1042
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: like redoing their colors or something.

1043
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 2: And so day you try to do the roll ball

1044
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 2: up the ramp thing. Is that at New Mexico or

1045
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 2: is that UNLV? I can't remember where is that? I

1046
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 2: can't remember that doesn't sound like New Mexico. I did

1047
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 2: the I re enacted the Derek Wittenberg shop, but I

1048
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 2: hit it.

1049
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: At the pit.

1050
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I forget what time. I forget what arena it is.

1051
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 2: I know it's out there on the West coast. Like

1052
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 2: the the ramp is so high up. It's like people

1053
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 2: try to roll the ball up and you can't get

1054
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 2: it all the way up to the top.

1055
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, that would hard since at the

1056
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: pit because of the way it's that might be Thomas

1057
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: max Center and U and Olv. I mentioned this earlier,

1058
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: but I want to get to it again because I

1059
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: do think it's and I understand, and I would ask

1060
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: that you lend me your ear to understand the significance

1061
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: of what it is that I'm about to speak. And

1062
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: I mentioned it earlier on the show on a personal level,

1063
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: which I will also address. This is meaningful, but I

1064
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: do think that it impacts our community, and I care

1065
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: a great deal about our community and the history of

1066
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: this town. And to paraphrase what I mentioned earlier, summarize it.

1067
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: You know, growing up here, both of my parents are

1068
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: from Indianapolis and ice cream we just mentioned. My childhood

1069
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: was spent a very idyllic childhood, but much of it

1070
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: was spent on Sunday nights getting lenders doubled it for

1071
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: a dime time and driving downtown with my sisters in

1072
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: the car and my parents driving and going for a

1073
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: Sunday drive to get ice cream. We loved it. We

1074
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: did it a lot, and I watched this town grow

1075
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: up and from the back seat of a Chevy Malibu,

1076
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: in the back seat of before Mustang, by listening to

1077
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: my parents narrate and point out the different things that

1078
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody remembers, there used to be

1079
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: just north of Fall Creek on Washington Boulevard, as you

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Speaker 1: bent around, there was a guy that lived in a

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Speaker 1: house that collected hearses and cannons. Anybody remember that The

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01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: Hearst house just had like broken down hearses in the

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01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: front yard. It creeped me out, like no tomorrow and

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01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: he had a cannon just sitting in the front yard.

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01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: Very odd, but that was, you know, a landmark in Indy.

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01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: And hearing the stories of the House of Blue Lights

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01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: and hearing the stories or having my parents point out

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01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: to me and telling me about like Tony kritzis or

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01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: the building of Market Square Arena before that, and then

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01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: seeing the building of the Hoosier Dome in the Aul

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01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: Building now the One America Tower, and I loved it.

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01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: I was consumed by it, probably almost to an abnormal level.

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01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: But I don't have many skills in life, and I

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01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,439
Speaker 1: don't have many attributes of intellect. But one thing I've

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01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: always had is curiosity. I've always been curious, and because

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01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: of curiosity and drive, frankly, I knew at a very

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01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: young age that I wanted to be a sportscaster, and

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01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: in that capacity, my mom knew Jack Reinhart because she

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01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: taught his kids in school, and I completely admired Derek

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01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: Thomas because I love the way that he would say

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01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: Derek Thomas for the news Channel six. I loved it,

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01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: and I would watch the news even at a very

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01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: young age. I would watch the news every night, and

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01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: eventually I called Ed Sorenson to ask about being a sportscaster,

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01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: and that facilitated for me to go down in the

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01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: sixth grade and be able to follow and job shadow

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01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: him for a day, which became a week, which became

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01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: a month, and by the time I was in high school,

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01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: I had my own entry card to Channel six, and

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01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: literally every time that I had a free evening or

1111
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: after everybody else went home on a Friday or Saturday night,

1112
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 1: I would go down to Channel six. And my parents

1113
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: allowed it because they knew that's what I was doing,

1114
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: and they trusted that those people, you know, were looking

1115
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: after me. I guess you'd say where I just sat

1116
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: and learned everything about a newscast. I would sit in

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01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: the sports office and Scott Hoak was as kind to

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01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: me as could be. And I would sit there and

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01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: Ed Sorenson was like a father figure to me, and

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01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: I would observe and read media guides, and then eventually

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01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: I would tear scripts or I would help edit something,

1122
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: or I would have to run something down. And everyone

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01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: everyone in that building, everyone from Kurt Swadener to Jennifer

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01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: Shirley to Ben Morriston, Cide Jenkins, Linda Loopierre, Galen Bartnik,

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01:02:55,120 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: Tracy Horth, Clyde Lee, Dion, Willis Howard calledwell Jack, Ryan Heart,

1126
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: Derek Thomas, Barbara Boyd, everyone, Bob McClain, David James. Everyone

1127
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: was beyond kind to me. The behind the scenes folks,

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01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: Joe Rohotekap, his now wife Grace Strahan, who was an anchor.

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01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: Everyone treated me like I belonged there, even though I

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01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: wasn't even getting paid. I was just there observing, And

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01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: then eventually it worked into the point where I worked

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01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: there and in my job working there at the very

1133
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: bottom level, tearing tapes or tearing scripts, mixing coffee, delivering tapes,

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01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: whatever needed to be done at the end of each

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01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: newscast when I was there. On the nights that I

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01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: was there, I would sit in the sports office with

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01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: channels with Ed Sorenson, and we would watch all of

1138
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 1: the sports casts back in replay, frame by frame, the

1139
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: pursuit of the perfect sports cast. And it was no

1140
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: different than in sport now when I see coaches that

1141
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: are in pursuit of the perfect game and they watch

1142
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: tape and they point out things that the average person

1143
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 1: doesn't notice. They say, well, you know, in the second half,

1144
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: we missed a backdoor screen, or they ran a safety

1145
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 1: with a cover of the top, and you know we

1146
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 1: didn't see it on that. We should audible out of that,

1147
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: and that comes with practice and pursuit of perfection. I'm

1148
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 1: not saying that I necessarily had it, but I witnessed

1149
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 1: it in Ed and I learned so much from it.

1150
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 1: But I had the curiosity of those rides and the

1151
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: ice cream trips as a kid, and I wanted to

1152
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: learn more about the Burger chef murders, or about Marjorie Jackson,

1153
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: or about the House of Blue Lights, or about the

1154
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: tragedy on the ice capades at the Coliseum, or the

1155
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 1: rise of Bill Hudnut, or the National Sports Festival, or

1156
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: the getting the Colts to come to Indianapolis, or the

1157
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: telethon to save the Pacers, and I would sit, and

1158
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 1: I know still to this day, where every inch of

1159
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: tape is in that building at Channel six. I could

1160
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: take you right now. You could say to me a

1161
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 1: historic event in this town, and I could take you.

1162
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: Walk you right in, right now to thirteen thirty North Meridian,

1163
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: walk down the ramp into the basement, and I can

1164
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: find for you every archive of every significant moment exactly

1165
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: where it is on tape, because I watched all of

1166
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: it over the course of probably twenty years, because I

1167
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:28,439
Speaker 1: was always curious. And eventually, after working there in two

1168
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: different professional, legitimate capacities, I left to transition into radio

1169
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: and WIBC in two thousand and seven, and it was

1170
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: really hard for me, because that was a family to me,

1171
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: because it was people who always looked out for me,

1172
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: and it was people who never once let me feel

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01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: like I was in the way, even though now that

1174
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm old enough to understand, I know that I was.

1175
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:59,439
Speaker 1: And every one of them, every one of them went

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01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 1: out of their to help me out anytime that I

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01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 1: needed it. Rob Kimmins and Paul Chioto and Otis Jones

1178
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: and Dave Franklin and Glenn Welling and Tom Trial and

1179
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: Tom Sisler, all of them whatever they could do to

1180
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: help me. Dennis Goens, Dennis Gowens. I remember one time

1181
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: I was driving back from covering a game at Purdue

1182
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: with Dennis Gowens, the photographer at Channel six, and I

1183
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 1: broke out and started crying because I'd broken up with

1184
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: a girlfriend like three days earlier, and it had all

1185
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: hit me and I was in this depression because I

1186
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: had this pursuit, but I wasn't getting anywhere. And Dennis

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01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: Gowens pulled his car over on I sixty five and said,

1188
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: you know what, We're just gonna sit here and talk

1189
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: and I don't care if we get the tape back late.

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01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 1: This is more important, and that's what happens when you

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01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 1: have workplaces that are family. And even when all of

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01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: those people that I mentioned have now most of them

1193
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: have moved on to different pastures and different retirements or

1194
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 1: whatever it might be, you never lose the cour or

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01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: at its base of people that are family and an

1196
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: environment that's family. And yesterday the sale went through with

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01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 1: WRTV being acquired by Circle City Broadcasting, which owns WISH Television,

1198
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 1: and Wish Television was longtime the CBS affiliate in town.

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01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 1: Wish Television was purchased by Circle City Broadcasting but had

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01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: lost its affiliation to CBS and became a CW affiliate,

1201
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 1: and as a result of that, many of the cable

1202
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: providers dropped their relationship with Wish Television because the CW

1203
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 1: was not as beneficial to those providers as was CBS,

1204
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: and so Circle City Broadcasting, I think, for a long

1205
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: time has been seeking to get back into the affiliate game,

1206
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 1: which is why they took advantage of the opportunity to

1207
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 1: purchase WRTV. Not because they wanted the assets from a

1208
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: personnel standpoint of WRTV, but because they wanted the ABC affiliation.

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01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 1: Understand it, I do, I totally understand it. Business is business,

1210
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: I get it, So I understand why Circle City Broadcasting

1211
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 1: made that move and made that acquisition. It doesn't mean

1212
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 1: it doesn't make me sad, and it doesn't mean, in

1213
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 1: the long winded point here, that it doesn't impact all

1214
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: of you, all of you in Indianapolis. It does impact

1215
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:29,679
Speaker 1: not because of ill will. From the standpoint of Circle

1216
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 1: City Broadcasting, I understand it. Good for them. They it's

1217
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 1: a capitalistic society, and they had the ability to expand

1218
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: their footprint by purchasing the building and everything that goes

1219
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 1: with it. I get it. But the vast majority of

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01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:49,879
Speaker 1: those people working at WRTV yesterday were relieved of their duties.

1221
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,520
Speaker 1: And one would assume that the newscast at Wish Television,

1222
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,799
Speaker 1: which does a good job and has very fine people,

1223
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: one would assume that that newscast now simply slides over

1224
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 1: and becomes the newscast of WRTV because you have a

1225
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 1: greater ability for that to be seen by the Indianapolis market,

1226
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 1: because it's an ABC affiliate that is broadcasted on a

1227
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 1: larger scale of providers, cable providers. So all of you

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01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: listening to my voice, will you get Channel six? Some

1229
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 1: of you may not, The majority of you may not

1230
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:31,600
Speaker 1: on your cable opportunity get wish television. So I understand

1231
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 1: that aspect of it. But where it is concerning is

1232
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 1: it relates to sport. The thing that is great about

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01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 1: sports is that we love the conversation. We love the competition,

1234
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 1: we love the dynamic, We love the versatility and the

1235
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 1: diversity of Some may be a fan of defensive football.

1236
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: Some might be a fan of wide open passing style teams.

1237
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: Some might like run and gun team in college basketball.

1238
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: Others may like the purity of setting screens and running

1239
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 1: a motion offense. That's what makes the sports world go round,

1240
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 1: and that's why we are able to sit at the

1241
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 1: water cooler and have conversations of you know, on a

1242
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: discourse of disagreement and good natured ribbing. But at the

1243
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:22,600
Speaker 1: bottom line, we all have the same spirit of a

1244
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: fan of sport. And the Federal Communications Commission Commission, the FCC,

1245
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 1: from a legal standpoint in this country long had policy

1246
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 1: that one company could not have monopoly ownership of a

1247
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 1: number of different broadcast entities because they wanted to again

1248
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:50,679
Speaker 1: promote the aspect of diversity of delivery and to some extent,

1249
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 1: diversity of thought, not in news delivery. But in the

1250
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 1: editorial or the reaction of news, and in today's world,

1251
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: unfortunately that's become blurred where people confuse the editorial commentary

1252
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 1: of a station as a bias that influences the delivery

1253
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 1: of the actual news itself. They should be two different

1254
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 1: pages of the newspaper, but it's become blurred now. But

1255
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 1: what you have now is essentially two companies that own

1256
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 1: all of the broadcast television programs and companies here in

1257
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 1: Central Indiana. And I understand it, and I get the

1258
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: fact that father time is undefeated and evolution is undefeated

1259
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 1: in business is business. I understand all of that. But

1260
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,719
Speaker 1: at the same time, it also can lend itself now

1261
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 1: or creak the door open to the homogenization of thought

1262
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 1: and of delivery. And that is something that I think

1263
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 1: everybody should look at and say. I simply think that

1264
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:57,640
Speaker 1: we live in a society that should have multiple options

1265
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 1: or multiple ingestion. And I totally understand in a world

1266
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:07,679
Speaker 1: now of podcasts, radio, instagram, TikTok, there are so many

1267
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 1: places for people to ingest their news that it would

1268
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: be very fair while you're listening to my voice to

1269
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: simply say, dude, nobody watches the eleven o'clock news anymore. Anyway.

1270
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 1: I understand that, I do understand that, and change is hard.

1271
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 1: But to me, what is the most hard and what's

1272
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 1: the most difficult is the fact that a place, selfishly

1273
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 1: and personally speaking, where I grew up with a number

1274
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:44,799
Speaker 1: of people that helped me grow, that provided for me friendships, mentorship, guidance, support,

1275
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 1: and never once made me feel in the way. It

1276
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 1: makes me sad to know that the place where that

1277
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: all happened now is gone in the blink of an eye.

1278
01:12:56,360 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 1: Professionally speaking, it makes me more sad to know of

1279
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: the number of people that are now going through what

1280
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 1: I thrice have been through, and that is trying to

1281
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: figure out what is next when you are the victim

1282
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 1: of a business acquisition and downsize. And that doesn't mean

1283
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 1: that I hold ill will on the process of businesses

1284
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: doing that. It is an unfortunate aspect of it, but

1285
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 1: it does potentially as well have implication on the way

1286
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 1: the media landscape in the city of Indianapolis changes moving forward,

1287
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 1: and I'm curious to see where that goes. I have

1288
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:42,480
Speaker 1: concern about it because it is my level of curiosity

1289
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 1: that led me to have such a love for all

1290
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 1: of it, and I'm the first to admit that sometimes

1291
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 1: changes hard. Eddie, we have tickets to give away for FanFest.

1292
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 2: Correct, We do have tickets to give away for the

1293
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 2: final four fan Fast.

1294
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 1: You come up with a fun, fun game we're gonna

1295
01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 1: do for this. Oh yeah, we are going to take

1296
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: a caller. We're gonna play for them. We're gonna go

1297
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:04,640
Speaker 1: back on the way back. So you need to be

1298
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 1: a regular listener of this show. Ain't no faking it

1299
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 1: on this. If you're a regular listener of this show

1300
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 1: and you feel up to speed, we're gonna play for you.

1301
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna call in since there are tickets for the

1302
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 1: final four fan Fest, and we're gonna play for you

1303
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 1: four sounders from back when we did the numbers game,

1304
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: and we have the sounders that represent different universities. We're

1305
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: gonna play for you a sounder and you need to

1306
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: get three of four correct, and if you do, you

1307
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 1: win the tickets. So Eddie will have his sounders all

1308
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 1: up and ready to go and you and this again,

1309
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna be helpful if you're a regular listener to

1310
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 1: the program, you can figure out what some of the

1311
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 1: sounders are. Perhaps, just give me an example, Eddie. As

1312
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: an example, if I'm caller Bill and Bill calls in

1313
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 1: and he's like, all right, I need it right now,

1314
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 1: So play me one of the sounders, and I'm gonna

1315
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,799
Speaker 1: guess what school it represents in the field of sixty

1316
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 1: eight in the NCAA tournament from the Great Great Query

1317
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 1: and Company Numbers game. Give me one of the Sounders.

1318
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 1: You know what, I would guess that that's got to

1319
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 1: be Florida Pingo. That's how we do it. All you

1320
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 1: got to do is get three or four and you're

1321
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 1: on your way to the fan fest. But you got

1322
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 1: to call in first, two, three, nine, and ten seventy

1323
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:30,679
Speaker 1: is the telephone number. Yes, now, Eddie, I misspoke here.

1324
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 1: I was so excited about all of these games coming

1325
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 1: to Indianapolis that I advanced them up a day. They're Sunday,

1326
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 1: not Saturday, right.

1327
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,600
Speaker 2: I appreciate you taking the fall and the sword for that,

1328
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 2: because on the document that I gave you, Jake, I

1329
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:50,640
Speaker 2: wrote Saturday, April fifth. Saturday would be April fourth, and

1330
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 2: Sunday would be April fifth.

1331
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: Well, I wasn't going to say anything, but just so

1332
01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 1: you know, we bring your playbook. Coach wants to see

1333
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 1: you after the show. Okay, okay, no, no big deal.

1334
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 1: So Sunday Sunday, which is Easter Sunday.

1335
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 2: The n Sunday Sunday.

1336
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 1: All of the finals are on Sunday, right, yep, Division two,

1337
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 1: three and the n IT. Yes, do we haveage? Speaking

1338
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 1: of the Final four? Fan Fest, we have a quartet

1339
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:23,679
Speaker 1: of tickets to give away. That would be four of them, right, Yes.

1340
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: Fan Fest is awesome. It is a celebration of the

1341
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:30,719
Speaker 1: Final four essentially that is downtown and we have tickets

1342
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: to give away. Do we have a caller who has

1343
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 1: lined up for this fabulous game that.

1344
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 2: We're going to You know, Jake, we actually have a

1345
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 2: full group of callers we have the lines are full. Yes, okay,

1346
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 2: start with Dan.

1347
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 1: Now do we know this is Dan or it's just

1348
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:45,640
Speaker 1: going to be like the Saturday Sunday thing where you

1349
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 1: screwed up?

1350
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 4: No?

1351
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 2: I know this is Dan.

1352
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 1: Okay, Dan? How are you?

1353
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 6: I'm great?

1354
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: This is Dan. Dan. Have you called the program before?

1355
01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 6: Never? Have always dreamed of being part of the company though?

1356
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: Okay? Dan? So Dan, are you are you a working fella?

1357
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 1: I am what line of work are you in? Dan?

1358
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 6: Well, technically I am an auto worker.

1359
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 1: Actually, oh really by by auto worker meaning like you

1360
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 1: you work at like on the lines, or you sell cars,

1361
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,759
Speaker 1: or like what area of the automotive industry are you working?

1362
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 3: Actually, I'm at an auto manufacturing plant on the production line.

1363
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 1: Okay, well, that's cool. Here's the thing, Dan, I'm going

1364
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 1: to give you a title, if you don't mind, I'm

1365
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:33,640
Speaker 1: going to name you as the director of production for

1366
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 1: the company. Is that cool?

1367
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 6: That sounds great.

1368
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:37,600
Speaker 1: Because I don't know if you know this or not,

1369
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 1: especially based on today's show. Productivity not a real strong

1370
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 1: suit of this program, right.

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01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 6: Well, hey it is. It is for entertainment, not for production.

1372
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 1: Well, and again, Dan, I don't know if you know

1373
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 1: this or not. Entertainment not a strong suit of this company,

1374
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 1: just so you know.

1375
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,679
Speaker 6: But we do the best mague you sell yourself short.

1376
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 1: Well? Thanks? All right? Dan? Are you familiar with the

1377
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 1: way that we did the Numbers game? I am? Okay.

1378
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 1: So we have sounders that Eddie worked tirelessly on.

1379
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 2: Dan, did you get through to participat in the Numbers game?

1380
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 1: No?

1381
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 6: I did not participate in the Numbers Games?

1382
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Dan. We have sounders that we're going to do.

1383
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 1: We will play you the sounder, and I want you

1384
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 1: to tell me which of the field of sixty eight

1385
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 1: you believe that it belongs to. Okay, Okay, Eddie, go

1386
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 1: ahead with sounder number one.

1387
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 2: Think it for boiler Makers.

1388
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,600
Speaker 1: Whatever you want, sir, I'll have the waitress bring it

1389
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:39,680
Speaker 1: over immediately. Now, Dan, if you don't get this, I

1390
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 1: got news from you for you. You're not just fired

1391
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 1: from this company. You might be in question at the

1392
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 1: automotive one as well. What's your guests?

1393
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 6: Well, since I'm a Purdue fan and has to be produced,

1394
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 6: that is.

1395
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 1: That is correct? You're one for one. You're allowed one

1396
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 1: slip up in this incredibly enticing game that we made

1397
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 1: up on the fly. Okay, the second sounder. Here we go, Eddie.

1398
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 3: Hi TI, Hey, guys, Hi tie high tie high tie

1399
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 3: high tie.

1400
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 1: Okay, Dan, do you know what school that would be?

1401
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 6: That would be the Alabama Crimes in Time?

1402
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 1: Dan is two for two? All right, Dan, no pressure here,

1403
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 1: you get one of the next two to get it right.

1404
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 1: Here we go, Eddie, play the next one.

1405
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 3: Okay, Dan, Well, there's two two schools going through my mind.

1406
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Kentucky even though I believe Colonel Sanders

1407
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 3: was from Louisville.

1408
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 6: But I'm going to Kentucky.

1409
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 1: You had a fifty to fifty there. I believe, Eddie,

1410
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 1: Louisville would have been the correct answer. Correct, Yes, the

1411
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: young sinner. Okay, all right? That yeah, so you Dan,

1412
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 1: you got to finish strong here? No pressure? Okay? Do

1413
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 1: you feel a little bit of pressure here?

1414
01:19:56,200 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 2: Not at all. His palms aren't sweaty, that's right, his

1415
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 2: knees aren't weak.

1416
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,759
Speaker 1: All right, Dan, Here we go. Here's the last sounder.

1417
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: Here you go. Okay, Eddie, one more time if you could? Okay, Dan,

1418
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 1: do you know what that one is?

1419
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, oh.

1420
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:21,759
Speaker 5: Geez.

1421
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 1: One more time, Eddie, go with the first syllable here, notably,

1422
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 1: pay very close attention to the first syllable. Here we go.

1423
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:38,640
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with Miami RedHawks.

1424
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:44,640
Speaker 1: Oh. Now, here's the thing, Eddie. Do we have just

1425
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 1: one set to give away? Is that right? Yeah?

1426
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 2: Just one set?

1427
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 1: Dan is such a good sport?

1428
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 6: Here?

1429
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 2: Do you reveal the answer on that one?

1430
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 1: Do we do we give to Dan for playing along?

1431
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 1: Or do we stick Dan? I will allow you. You

1432
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 1: sound like a nice fella, right, You're like a good guy,

1433
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 1: do you think that you have earned said said set here?

1434
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 1: Or are you an honest enough guy that you're like, Hey,

1435
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 1: you laid out the rules and I had to go

1436
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 1: three for four and I only went two for four.

1437
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,640
Speaker 1: Which way are you leaning on it? Dan? As the

1438
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 1: new director of productivity of this company.

1439
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 3: Well as a as a I've spent thirty eight years

1440
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 3: as a basketball official, so I think to be done

1441
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 3: by the rules and by the rules.

1442
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 1: I did not win, Dan, what you were an official at?

1443
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 1: What level?

1444
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 6: By the way, mostly high school varsity?

1445
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 1: Okay? Is fair statement? Okay factor fiction. Many people believe

1446
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 1: that high school coaches are actually the biggest nuisance to officials,

1447
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 1: but in reality, in twenty twenty six, it's overbearing and

1448
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 1: totally unrealistic parents that are actually the bigger pain.

1449
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 3: I would have to say, yeah, I would have to

1450
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 3: say the latter. I would I would venture to say,

1451
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 3: fans not necessaryka fair block parents, Yes.

1452
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 1: Fair enough. Listen, Dan, I my eyes have been completely

1453
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 1: opened in the last I don't know, several years, couple

1454
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 1: of years as to the intricacies of the rules that

1455
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: go into officiating and getting to know that aspect of it.

1456
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 1: You will never again hear me complain about an instantaneous

1457
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 1: call in officiating, It is unbelievable. The nuance of the

1458
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 1: things that you guys need to know and gals need

1459
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 1: to know in that moment, and the the just the

1460
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 1: precision with which you're able to make and know those

1461
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 1: rules is truly remarkable. And officials are the reason that

1462
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 1: you know. I'm doing this job because I got to

1463
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 1: do high school broadcasting as a young kid, and that

1464
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 1: was facilitated by people that were willing to be there

1465
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:56,640
Speaker 1: on Tuesday nights and Friday nights and Saturday nights to

1466
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,679
Speaker 1: make high school athletics possible. So you get a huge,

1467
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:01,679
Speaker 1: huge tip of the cap for that and a huge

1468
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: thank you for that.

1469
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:05,719
Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate you putting the effort into learning about

1470
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 3: the rules, and now you can I encourage anyone to

1471
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:12,959
Speaker 3: go on and just look up officiating rules training videos.

1472
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 3: You can watch them and see what actually goes into

1473
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 3: the preparation and what the rules actually are.

1474
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 1: Dan, I appreciate you participating in our game today and

1475
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 1: the honesty the scruples with which you work. You are

1476
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 1: a proud member. Now we're proud to have you as

1477
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:28,719
Speaker 1: a member of this company.

1478
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 3: Well, thank you very much and I appreciate you bringing

1479
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 3: me on. I won't even ask for a signing boous.

1480
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 1: Okay, we don't lot for those, Dan, we don't offer this,

1481
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: but we do have a lovely benefits package. Okay, Eddie,

1482
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: are we going to go ahead and do it on

1483
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:42,719
Speaker 1: the other side?

1484
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 2: Do you want to hammer it?

1485
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 3: Nan?

1486
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 1: Now?

1487
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 2: Do you wanna do it on the other side? It's

1488
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 2: a good question.

1489
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 1: That's so I said, do one to do it on

1490
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 1: the other side from you before Julia Lash you're the host.

1491
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 1: We'll do it next, and then Julia will last. Top

1492
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 1: they are. I'll never forget when this song was at

1493
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 1: its apex, being in Higo and watching my dad walk

1494
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 1: down Michigan Avenue like an Egyptian and you would think

1495
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 1: that people would snicker at it, but like people were

1496
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 1: joining in because this was a cultural phenomenon when it

1497
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 1: came out. Do we have another caller lined up for

1498
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:14,520
Speaker 1: this fabulous award winning program?

1499
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 2: We do, indeed, Yeah, you've got Erin Hi Erin.

1500
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 1: How are you?

1501
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 6: I'm going, well, well how about you, sir, Eron?

1502
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 1: Have you called the show before? Yes?

1503
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 4: I have.

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01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 7: Man I actually won the TV t tickets. Man Man

1505
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 7: I never got those tickets actually speaks. They actually ended

1506
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 7: up sending them all the day off and they end

1507
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 7: up being in Louisville. And uh, that's when Butler and

1508
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,760
Speaker 7: I was in a yogi of those guys and I

1509
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 7: never even got to make it.

1510
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 1: Now, just so you know, now, hold on now, Aaron,

1511
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. But here's the thing, and I do

1512
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 1: apologize for that as well. But just so you know,

1513
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:54,599
Speaker 1: since those days, we're under new management and ownership here

1514
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 1: at the company.

1515
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:57,600
Speaker 7: You're fine, man, I appreciate it. Like I said in

1516
01:24:57,680 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 7: Signs d com, it was the day off, but the

1517
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 7: once I found out and I got a little about

1518
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 7: a couple of two hours before, and it was a

1519
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 7: Louisville man.

1520
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 1: I just kidding that you make that seems that seems

1521
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 1: logistically challenging.

1522
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, it is, it is and would have been in logistics.

1523
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 7: I'm actually a truck driver, man, Are you really?

1524
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 1: Are you in the Are you in the rig right now?

1525
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 1: By chance?

1526
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 4: No?

1527
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 7: Sorry, As a matter of fact, I'm sitting in mitis

1528
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 7: man waiting to give my car fee.

1529
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:26,719
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well make sure the breaks are working

1530
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 1: all right, so you know how this works?

1531
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 4: Right?

1532
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 1: Are you are you familiar with the numbers game by chance, Aaron.

1533
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 7: I was listening to it. Yeah, I am familiar with.

1534
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 1: Okay, so you see, hear how we do it. We're

1535
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 1: gonna play you a sounder. You got to tell us

1536
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 1: which of the sixty eight teams in the NCAA tournament

1537
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 1: it belongs to. Okay, all right, no pressure, all right, Edny,

1538
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 1: this is sounder number one for Aaron. All right? Eron

1539
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 1: that was and jay Hawks?

1540
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:02,639
Speaker 7: That's Kansas?

1541
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 1: Okay, that is correct? All right. By the way, do

1542
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 1: they have coffee and stuff there in the waiting room

1543
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 1: where you are right now?

1544
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 6: Absolutely?

1545
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:09,600
Speaker 4: Is that?

1546
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 1: Man?

1547
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 7: I actually have to walk marn in one of the dominoes,

1548
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 7: and actually their computer wasn't working, so I couldn't get

1549
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 7: a pizza.

1550
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 1: You should have gone to Chicago's Pizza, Aaron. Chicago's has

1551
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: nineteen Central Indiana location.

1552
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 7: Unfortunately, it's not a walking distance man.

1553
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 1: Fair enough, all right, fair enough, all right, you know

1554
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 1: walking distance? Really everything's within walking distance if your forest gump,

1555
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:33,679
Speaker 1: just so you know, Okay, Eddie, who's next? Here? Here

1556
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 1: we go erin? Oh tough one? All right? Sounds like

1557
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:47,600
Speaker 1: the NBA draft sounder, followed by the song missus Robinson,

1558
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 1: what's that?

1559
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 7: I'm going to say that sounded like the NBA P.

1560
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 1: So what school would you guess that relates to? Aaron?

1561
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 1: Keep in mind, missus Robinson known as a cougar, just

1562
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:03,680
Speaker 1: so you know.

1563
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 7: Okay, where I know? I haven't seen you ours in school?

1564
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:14,639
Speaker 7: That's only my guess, mare.

1565
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: How about this? Aaron Brigham ain't old, but rather he's

1566
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 1: what Yeah, Eddie, are we counting that? All right? B

1567
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 1: y u? Okay, we got him there, We got two

1568
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 1: left here, Eron, thanks for working with us here. Uh

1569
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 1: that was trust me. That was hardly within walking distance,

1570
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 1: but we got there. Aaron, right, all right, here's our

1571
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 1: third one erin we love.

1572
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 7: We're playing that one more time, man, one more time.

1573
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 1: I'm with that. Here we go one more time.

1574
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 2: The first two words are it's corn. If you were

1575
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 2: understand corn.

1576
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:06,640
Speaker 1: Okay, there we go.

1577
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 8: Erin.

1578
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:13,639
Speaker 1: Would you like to guess what's that? Okay? Now Aaron

1579
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 1: has actually I believe that secures it, right, He's got

1580
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: to go three or four? Okay, we got one left, Aaron,

1581
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 1: one left for you to see if you can clean

1582
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 1: sweep this one. Here we go number four?

1583
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 7: Okay, Aaron's s subs of that work. No ting f

1584
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:38,839
Speaker 7: bom man.

1585
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 1: No, no, listen. I mean we are a family friendly program,

1586
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 1: although there is certainly some insinuation here. Eddie, one more time,

1587
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 1: if you could leave, She's saying Hawk to a.

1588
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 7: I'll see that's what I thought I was asked to

1589
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 7: say to us. I was like, what's you know?

1590
01:28:58,800 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 1: Okay?

1591
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 5: Uh?

1592
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 7: I think about Miami here, if he left Miami just recently.

1593
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 7: So I thought maybe the you know, I mean, I

1594
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 7: don't that's the dolphins. But I was like, maybe the

1595
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 7: hurts are you baby?

1596
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 1: Maybe that is the Iowa hawk guys, Aaron, the Iowhawkeyes.

1597
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing, Aaron, is the is the car

1598
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:19,639
Speaker 1: or the riggy the one going to be fixed by Saturday?

1599
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 1: That's the big concern here.

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01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:22,839
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, I'll be down here solutainly.

1601
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 4: Man.

1602
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 7: I was asking sir this man. They were nice enough

1603
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 7: to do some extra work for me if I actually

1604
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 7: have my.

1605
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 4: Place?

1606
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? You ever you ever showered? You ever showered at

1607
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 1: the truck stop?

1608
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 6: Aaron?

1609
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 7: Absolutely? I love it, man, I love yeah.

1610
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 1: When I go in there just to get myself some

1611
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 1: gummy worms and die mountain dew. And I hear him

1612
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 1: say likes shires six she far your showers are any?

1613
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 1: And I always wonder who it is. Do you go

1614
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 1: with flip flops or slides in there? Are you going

1615
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 1: just barefoot? Raw dog in it?

1616
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 4: Oh? Brother?

1617
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

1618
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 7: Man, there's just uh like being locked up. Man, you

1619
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,880
Speaker 7: gotta go in there any vice, you know what I mean?

1620
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:03,719
Speaker 1: All right, Well, fair enough, Aaron. Aaron listened, drive safely

1621
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 1: once everything's good on the car. I appreciate you listening

1622
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 1: to the program. I'm blessing. We'll get your information and

1623
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 1: get you on about your way. That's Aaron, and I

1624
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 1: listen good sport, good sport? Before that? From I was

1625
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 1: it Dave or Dan?

1626
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 3: Dan?

1627
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 1: From Dan? Yeah? Sorry Dan, See that's Eddie. Here's the thing,

1628
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 1: I'm fairly convinced whenever we do this. Yesterday I had

1629
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 1: a gentleman call me and it was really a fun

1630
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 1: conversation because he's in a play and he's playing and

1631
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 1: it really sounds like an interesting play about a gentleman

1632
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 1: that is a radio host and the struggles the radio

1633
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 1: host has of like on air persona versus who he

1634
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 1: is in real life. And I said to him, I said, man,

1635
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:49,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. I think I did

1636
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 1: play a character earlier in my career, and it just

1637
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 1: I didn't. It just wasn't me. And I think I

1638
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 1: speak for all of our colleagues here as well. But

1639
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 1: I know, you know, so I don't. I just go

1640
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 1: on the air and I you know, I'm just I'm me,

1641
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 1: like I don't try to in John, I know it's

1642
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 1: the same way, and certainly Kevin, you know, we and

1643
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:17,559
Speaker 1: Jeff and James. I mean, there's no you're not playing

1644
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 1: a character or stepping into a character on this show.

1645
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:24,519
Speaker 1: And I told him the one thing that you get

1646
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 1: insecure about is you do feel self conscious of the

1647
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,680
Speaker 1: fact that most of the time I'm talking, I just

1648
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 1: assume that no one is hearing it, and so, and

1649
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:42,719
Speaker 1: it is weird because you're basically just talking into a room.

1650
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 1: There's no you know, I'm public speaking. I get very nervous,

1651
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 1: and in this I don't necessarily because you know, I

1652
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 1: see you on the other side of that window here,

1653
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 1: and that's it. And so I just assume that there

1654
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 1: are Honestly, I'm being totally serious when I say this.

1655
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 1: I'm like, I am. More often than that, I leave

1656
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 1: and I think I don't think anybody heard that today, right,

1657
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 1: and and so what and and I think that we

1658
01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 1: should I that we I should do a better job

1659
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:18,479
Speaker 1: of incorporating those that do listen, because it's always fun.

1660
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 1: People are fun and and people are funny. I mean,

1661
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:25,680
Speaker 1: Aaron's a funny dude, right, And.

1662
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 2: Everyone's got a little personality to the total way, shape

1663
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:28,919
Speaker 2: or form.

1664
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 1: Totally and and I get it. I mean, I'm sure

1665
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 1: hearing me drone for the same you know, drivel for

1666
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 1: three hours.

1667
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 2: It's tough, you know, but it's also uh entertaining and educational,

1668
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:45,880
Speaker 2: like for example, yeah, we educate and entertain.

1669
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 1: I don't know the entertainment that's when if you if

1670
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 1: you think about this show in reality, okay, like.

1671
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 2: How would you know that this?

1672
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:05,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. That's the stay fish of White's.

1673
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 2: Theah yeah, how would you know the huma?

1674
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:09,720
Speaker 1: Are you going to Hawaii? How excited are you to

1675
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 1: walk up to people and ask them if they're aware

1676
01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 1: of the huma? Human hu coun to go up Oaha.

1677
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 2: I don't know how many howlies will be doing that too.

1678
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:20,559
Speaker 1: Listen, you walk up to anybody in Hawaii and you

1679
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:23,640
Speaker 1: just walk up and say, excuse me, did you know

1680
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 1: that I'm from the mainland and I know that the

1681
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:27,679
Speaker 1: humor human who go up Ouaha is the state fish

1682
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 1: of Hawaii. And I got news for you. It's like

1683
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 1: giving the secret handshake to every fraternity known to man.

1684
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 1: When you tell people that you know that the humor

1685
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 1: human who going to go up Oaha is the state

1686
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 1: fish of Hawaii and they are Hawaiian. They love it.

1687
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:44,600
Speaker 1: They go crazy for it. They absolutely go crazy for it.

1688
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 1: It's the ultimate compliment to Hawaiian And so I think

1689
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 1: because we do try to educate, but the entertain is

1690
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 1: is very questionable. I think like if we were, for example,

1691
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:02,040
Speaker 1: you know, like at a gas station, gas is their

1692
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 1: primary you know they're selling. You go to shell, you're

1693
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 1: going there for gas. Now you might go in and

1694
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 1: get yourself a soft drink or a snack or a snack.

1695
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 1: The snack soft drink of this visions that's the entertainment.

1696
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:18,680
Speaker 1: You know. We have a little bit of that and

1697
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:21,400
Speaker 1: some might find it, but more so I think it's

1698
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:24,720
Speaker 1: the education aspect of we try to educate folks, like

1699
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:29,160
Speaker 1: for example, educating everything that goes into putting on the

1700
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 1: championship levels for Division one, Division two Division three and

1701
01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:36,200
Speaker 1: the NIT and how everything goes about putting on all

1702
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 1: of that. And Judi Urlash, who was formerly the commissioner

1703
01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 1: for the Horizon League, is now with Pacer Sports and Entertainment,

1704
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 1: but has worked in the involvement of all of that,

1705
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:47,720
Speaker 1: and I think can give really good perspective as to

1706
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 1: everything that goes into it. And we'll have that conversation next.

1707
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:57,559
Speaker 1: You go with the disco theme here ready, do you

1708
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:01,800
Speaker 1: know the song? You know, for a split second, I

1709
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:06,720
Speaker 1: thought it was macho man like for and I mean

1710
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 1: and I you know, I'm not gonna lie to you.

1711
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 1: I walk down the street, I can hear macho man

1712
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:19,160
Speaker 1: just off in the distance. Typically, how do I know

1713
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:19,639
Speaker 1: this song?

1714
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's it's a popular social media sound.

1715
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 2: That's the song Ross Poutine.

1716
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:32,479
Speaker 1: There we go. It has a little bit of a

1717
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:34,680
Speaker 1: studio fifty four feeling to it. I'm not gonna lie

1718
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 1: to you makes me slightly uncomfortable if we were early one.

1719
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 2: Of the truth from nineteen seventy eight.

1720
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 1: Well, I mean everything about nineteen seventy eight. Listen, I

1721
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 1: put on my tough skins and get in the back

1722
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 1: of my mom's wooden paneled station wagon. Let's just roll

1723
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 1: around and get some lenders.

1724
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 2: I say ninety eight Sony's the distributor that they were

1725
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 2: formed in seventy eight.

1726
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 1: It sounds like nineteen seventy eight joining us now, and

1727
01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure thrilled to be doing so. Based on that

1728
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:02,600
Speaker 1: intro on the guest line, she is formerly the commissioner

1729
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:05,400
Speaker 1: of the Horizon League and is now an executive vice

1730
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 1: president for the Pacers. Julia ra last joining us with

1731
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 1: of course Pacer Sports and entertainment being a big part

1732
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:14,559
Speaker 1: of Final four weekend and all of the championship games

1733
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:16,760
Speaker 1: that are taking place. Julie, how are you thanks for

1734
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:17,639
Speaker 1: joining us?

1735
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 4: I am well, it's great. March madness is here, actually

1736
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 4: April madness, right kind?

1737
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is big week.

1738
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 1: Have you been, by the way, have you been hit

1739
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 1: by any April fool stuff today?

1740
01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:31,120
Speaker 4: You know what I was just thinking, I haven't am

1741
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:34,439
Speaker 4: I am I actually on air or is that a list?

1742
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this or not. This

1743
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 1: entire program is in April fool, you know what I mean.

1744
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:40,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just I'm waiting for the day when

1745
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:42,280
Speaker 1: I come in and they go you know, this was

1746
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:46,800
Speaker 1: all the gig is up, buddy. You know, it's a

1747
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 1: matter of time. Okay, let's let's begin with this. And

1748
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 1: you know, I recall last year during the Horizon League

1749
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:58,280
Speaker 1: Championships at the Fairgrounds, seeing all of the trophies on

1750
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 1: display for Division one, Division two, in Division three, and

1751
01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:04,760
Speaker 1: that's when you know, it was pointed out to me, Hey,

1752
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 1: next year, meaning obviously the weekend that is upon us,

1753
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:09,920
Speaker 1: all of these championships are going to be settled in

1754
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 1: Indianapolis for the NCAA and college basketball. And I don't

1755
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:17,320
Speaker 1: know the answer to this, so I'm legitimately asking is

1756
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:21,519
Speaker 1: this unprecedented of having all the division levels in one

1757
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:22,679
Speaker 1: place for the same weekend?

1758
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:27,720
Speaker 4: Well, that is not It is rare. But what is

1759
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 4: unprecedent is having not just divisions one, two, and three

1760
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 4: men's national champions crown but also the NIT national champion.

1761
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:43,639
Speaker 4: So we're going to have in Gambridge on Sunday three

1762
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:48,519
Speaker 4: champions crowned with Division two, three and NT, and then

1763
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:51,599
Speaker 4: of course on Monday in Lucas Soil Stadium, the Division

1764
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:52,920
Speaker 4: one champion will be crowned.

1765
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:57,839
Speaker 1: That is a first, okay, And so I would imagine

1766
01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 1: that means, you know, and there are various entities that

1767
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 1: have to come together for this. I mean Pacer Sports

1768
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:08,240
Speaker 1: and Entertainment because it's a Gamebridge Field House obviously, the

1769
01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 1: Sports Corps and Lucas Oil Stadium, and then the NCAA

1770
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 1: as well. When did the cross pollination planning for all

1771
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:16,760
Speaker 1: of this begin.

1772
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:23,360
Speaker 4: Years out? You know, the NCAA right now has already

1773
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 4: locked in their final four destinations through twenty nine. And

1774
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:31,720
Speaker 4: I think Jake, it was probably three years ago and

1775
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 4: I joined a group to go to Houston and it

1776
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 4: was visit in DCIB Sports Corp. I was there as

1777
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 4: a sports Core board member on Horizon Leak as a

1778
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:46,720
Speaker 4: co host IU Indy. We had Pacer Sports Entertainment and

1779
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 4: everybody goes to pitch in front of the Men's Basketball

1780
01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:54,679
Speaker 4: Selection Committee, So they don't just see the bracket. They

1781
01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 4: also decide where the championship locations are. And essentially it's

1782
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 4: a pretty you might expect, in depth process with a

1783
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:07,800
Speaker 4: pretty slick PowerPoint and video explaining to them why we

1784
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:10,559
Speaker 4: deserve to have yet another final before so we were

1785
01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 4: pitching twenty nine when we had already locked in twenty six.

1786
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 1: Who determines the logistics of you know, once you know

1787
01:39:19,640 --> 01:39:22,800
Speaker 1: all the schools that are coming here. Uh, and these

1788
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 1: are the little things that I find fascinating in this.

1789
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:29,639
Speaker 1: You know, all of these teams have to stay somewhere,

1790
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:32,840
Speaker 1: all of the you know, the the support staff, the cheerleaders,

1791
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 1: the bands, all of it right, and so I you know,

1792
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:40,160
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like on Sunday night, are the

1793
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:42,879
Speaker 1: is the staff at the University of Mary Washington suddenly

1794
01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:45,599
Speaker 1: getting on booking dot com and finding the local Howard

1795
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:47,519
Speaker 1: Johnson like, how does it work? And how is that

1796
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:48,240
Speaker 1: all determined?

1797
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:53,519
Speaker 4: It is all taken care of by the NCAA and

1798
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:57,599
Speaker 4: then staff, and you've got Dan Gavin and Joan Scott

1799
01:39:57,640 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 4: who are really the force behind in the NCAA machine

1800
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:04,760
Speaker 4: running all of March badness. But then you also have,

1801
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 4: for instance and Indy and of course I'm bias, but

1802
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:10,480
Speaker 4: I think we're the best. You have local organizing committees.

1803
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 4: So for instance, Kelly Ford Senior, as Social Commissioner the

1804
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 4: Horizon Lank serves on this over arching local organizing committee

1805
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 4: with I'm guessing three hundred people across the community and

1806
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:28,000
Speaker 4: serving within different groups, whether it's team hosts, behind the scenes, like,

1807
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:32,639
Speaker 4: there's so many different pieces of it. But the travel

1808
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:36,640
Speaker 4: making sure that those teams have not just one, but

1809
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:40,640
Speaker 4: multiple contacts. And this isn't just for Indy, this is

1810
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 4: for the early rounds too, So whenever we host a

1811
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:45,760
Speaker 4: first and second round, we've got a core group of

1812
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:49,640
Speaker 4: volunteers prepared to welcome the teams coming, and then of

1813
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 4: course for the regional sites and then this year with

1814
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:55,960
Speaker 4: the Final four. But the NCAA's got a travel agency

1815
01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:59,439
Speaker 4: to your direct question that reaches out to those teams,

1816
01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 4: works with the Director of Operations, secure as their travel,

1817
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 4: the local host of all the early rounds, and then

1818
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:08,800
Speaker 4: the Sweet sixteen there they've already secured hotels and then

1819
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:10,080
Speaker 4: it's just a matter of assigning.

1820
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 1: Is your involvement Julia ra Lash is my guest. He's

1821
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:15,719
Speaker 1: with Pacer Sports and Entertainment, formerly with the Horizon League.

1822
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 1: Is your role and involvement in some of this when

1823
01:41:19,400 --> 01:41:23,800
Speaker 1: you made that transition from collegiate level commissioner over to

1824
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 1: Pacer Sports and Entertainment. Obviously there's value in your ability

1825
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:31,200
Speaker 1: to know both sides of the coin here, But did

1826
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 1: your involvement or your role within this great undertaking shift

1827
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 1: somewhat or did you just stay with kind of finishing

1828
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 1: off any responsibilities you may have had from the beginning.

1829
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:46,840
Speaker 4: It really did shift because the Horizon League and IU Indy,

1830
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:50,240
Speaker 4: they're really the co host. So the HL team is

1831
01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:52,639
Speaker 4: still very much leading that I'm of course here as

1832
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 4: they need me. But Jake, directly answer your question. I

1833
01:41:57,040 --> 01:41:59,840
Speaker 4: went from being assured a really good final four seats

1834
01:41:59,840 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 4: to having to ask my friends.

1835
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 1: For some Okay, that's an honest way of saying it, right, Yes,

1836
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 1: did you get a seat? By the way, did you

1837
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:12,639
Speaker 1: find are your friends rhetoric?

1838
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:13,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1839
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:16,760
Speaker 4: Yes, thanksfully. I've since I worked in college sports for

1840
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:18,280
Speaker 4: so long, I've still got a lot of friends in

1841
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 4: the business, and they've been very gracious.

1842
01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 1: By the way, I was just telling Eddie this. We

1843
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 1: you know, we'd do fun facts with each team in

1844
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:26,120
Speaker 1: the tournament. Now, Hawaii did not make it to the

1845
01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:28,840
Speaker 1: final four, but if they had gotten here, you could

1846
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:31,960
Speaker 1: have gotten and I know this. Have you been to Hawaii, Julie,

1847
01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 1: I have.

1848
01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:34,080
Speaker 4: Yes.

1849
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:36,599
Speaker 1: Do you happen to know the state fish of Hawaii?

1850
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:41,960
Speaker 1: I know it's the Huma human uah. And if you

1851
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:43,800
Speaker 1: ever meet anybody from Hawaii and you say you know,

1852
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:45,840
Speaker 1: I actually know that the state fish is the Huma

1853
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 1: human ukn nukuapua. I was just explaining this to eddiecause

1854
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:50,439
Speaker 1: he's getting ready to go to Hawaii. If Hawaii had

1855
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:52,679
Speaker 1: made the final four, they not only would have given

1856
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:55,080
Speaker 1: you a ticket, they would have given you their entire allotment.

1857
01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:56,960
Speaker 1: If you know that. That is a fun fact about

1858
01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:59,280
Speaker 1: Hawaii that that people go crazy. If you know that.

1859
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you this because we on this program.

1860
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 1: We we designed to educate and entertain, and I gave

1861
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:07,000
Speaker 1: up on the entertainment factor a long time ago. But

1862
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 1: if I can educate about the Humu whoman up ah, then.

1863
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:14,040
Speaker 4: Have a right so you can say the state fish.

1864
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:14,880
Speaker 4: Can you spell it?

1865
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:17,479
Speaker 1: I can't? Actually, the only the only problem with that

1866
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:19,360
Speaker 1: is it's long enough. The show's over at three and

1867
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:20,519
Speaker 1: I ain't got time. You know.

1868
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 4: Fair enough, Yeah, fair enough.

1869
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:24,559
Speaker 1: But I will tell you this, if you were going

1870
01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:26,400
Speaker 1: to buy a vow to try to spell out Huma

1871
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:28,680
Speaker 1: whom and nukuno kuapua, you need you actually got to

1872
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:32,240
Speaker 1: take out a loan for that to stop. Okay, So

1873
01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:39,200
Speaker 1: the again, this all undergoing the Pacer Sports and Entertainment

1874
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:41,760
Speaker 1: I would understand, I would assume has involvement in the

1875
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 1: fact that Sunday is the big day for them because

1876
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:47,160
Speaker 1: that's when Gamebridge field House is being used. But then

1877
01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 1: does Gamebridge also or the Pacer Sports and Entertainment staff

1878
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 1: also lend support staff to everything that will be going on,

1879
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:56,080
Speaker 1: notably Monday night with the National Championship.

1880
01:43:56,800 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 4: Well, we, like many organizations, we've got staffvolunteering in different ways.

1881
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 4: I think probably one of the most worthwhile pieces where

1882
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:07,280
Speaker 4: we've been able to be involved as bas of sports

1883
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:11,599
Speaker 4: entertainment was we hosted the first ever Jim Morris Day

1884
01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:14,519
Speaker 4: of Service on March twenty fourth, and Jake, I know

1885
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:18,040
Speaker 4: your history. Buff that happened to be the same day

1886
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:22,439
Speaker 4: that the NCAA hosted its very first Final four so many.

1887
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:23,840
Speaker 1: Years ago nineteen thirty nine.

1888
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:28,760
Speaker 4: Right, you would know that day better than me. But

1889
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:32,679
Speaker 4: that's to be able to launch a day of service,

1890
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:34,720
Speaker 4: and it was not just to day's service. It was

1891
01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:38,759
Speaker 4: also to essentially beautify the city and that includes small

1892
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:42,680
Speaker 4: things like picking up trash and wrapping trash bends, but

1893
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 4: planting flowers with keep ending at those beautiful packing backpacks

1894
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:49,280
Speaker 4: for to reward the kids that participated in the million

1895
01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:52,160
Speaker 4: minutes read towards red to the Final Four. So we

1896
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:55,799
Speaker 4: held a press conference and just a really nice community

1897
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:59,280
Speaker 4: gathering that morning, and then over eight hundred people stepped

1898
01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:01,639
Speaker 4: up to volunteer year throughout the day and various shifts

1899
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:04,439
Speaker 4: around the city, and that was we were proud to

1900
01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:07,200
Speaker 4: be a leader in organizing that effort alongside the NCAA

1901
01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:07,960
Speaker 4: in sports court.

1902
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:10,599
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if you know Julie Elliott Bloom,

1903
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:13,080
Speaker 1: who's the director of basketball operations at Purdue, but we

1904
01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:16,800
Speaker 1: had Elliott on, you know, during produced tournament run here,

1905
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:20,760
Speaker 1: and he made an interesting comment where he said, you know, Jake,

1906
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:23,639
Speaker 1: I almost feel sorry for schools that are going through

1907
01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:25,720
Speaker 1: this for the first time because of all of the

1908
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:29,160
Speaker 1: logistics that go into traveling in the tournament and advancing

1909
01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:32,400
Speaker 1: from around and figuring out getting your assignment for traveling,

1910
01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:35,240
Speaker 1: et cetera. Does the same hold true for putting on

1911
01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:37,559
Speaker 1: events like this. Do you look at a city that

1912
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 1: is undergoing it the first time and almost think to yourself, Man,

1913
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:43,840
Speaker 1: I remember what that was like? And does a city

1914
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 1: kind of learn with each time they do this a

1915
01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:49,000
Speaker 1: new wrinkle to improve it.

1916
01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:52,719
Speaker 4: I think cities absolutely learned because it's it's the people,

1917
01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 4: right Like anywhere, it's the city is not just the

1918
01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:58,120
Speaker 4: build It's not the buildings, it's the people that are

1919
01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 4: really hosting and an indy. I mean, we are a

1920
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:04,800
Speaker 4: sports city and that is it's just part of our

1921
01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:09,040
Speaker 4: fabric and our DNA and you see our volunteers really

1922
01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 4: come to life with this whole notion. And I think

1923
01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:13,439
Speaker 4: Rick Houston called it. You know, it's our spirits that

1924
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:16,559
Speaker 4: who's your spirit of hospitality? Like we take pride in

1925
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:19,320
Speaker 4: if somebody not People don't look at maps anymore, right,

1926
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:21,720
Speaker 4: they're looking at their phone, but if they look like

1927
01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:23,720
Speaker 4: they're lost, you walk up to them and say, hey,

1928
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:26,719
Speaker 4: how can I help you? Glad you're here. That's that's

1929
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:29,400
Speaker 4: just easy to do. But to your point of wrinkles,

1930
01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:33,920
Speaker 4: I think where we really had an inside track that

1931
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:37,719
Speaker 4: other cities didn't is we hosted all of March Madness

1932
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:41,040
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty one. So it wasn't just three games,

1933
01:46:41,120 --> 01:46:43,720
Speaker 4: which just three games is a pretty massive undertaking when

1934
01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:46,760
Speaker 4: it's the final four. It was sixty seven over what

1935
01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 4: three weeks, across six venues across our states. So we

1936
01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:54,120
Speaker 4: already had an edge because we host so many of

1937
01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 4: these megasport events. But I think that that didn't just

1938
01:46:57,120 --> 01:46:59,560
Speaker 4: put us on the map. That really put us in

1939
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:03,200
Speaker 4: a different stratosphere in terms of being able to handle

1940
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:05,800
Speaker 4: pretty much any logistics thrown our way in the midst

1941
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:06,479
Speaker 4: of a pandemic.

1942
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what it says about me, but

1943
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:10,280
Speaker 1: I've noticed lately that when I walk around, people do

1944
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 1: come up and.

1945
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:14,080
Speaker 2: Ask if i'm I don't know.

1946
01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, but I noticed it

1947
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 1: last week and IoT, Wow, people are friendly down here

1948
01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:19,840
Speaker 1: in Alabama. Everybody keeps asking if I need anything?

1949
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:23,040
Speaker 4: Are you turning your phone? You know its vertical horizontal?

1950
01:47:23,080 --> 01:47:24,520
Speaker 4: That's queuing that Maybe.

1951
01:47:24,640 --> 01:47:28,320
Speaker 1: That's usually a cue by the way, right, Yeah, Hey, Julie,

1952
01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:30,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask this as well. Julia were last

1953
01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 1: as my guest. She was formerly with the Horizon League,

1954
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 1: now with Pacer Sports and Entertainment. And we'll get you

1955
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:37,920
Speaker 1: the full schedule everybody of games upcoming, including a very

1956
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:41,720
Speaker 1: busy Easter Sunday on at Gamebridge Field House coming up

1957
01:47:41,720 --> 01:47:45,439
Speaker 1: Sunday with championships for the NIT as well as Division

1958
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:48,880
Speaker 1: two and three that are taking place. Julie, when you

1959
01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:52,280
Speaker 1: look at the Horizon League itself and I know that,

1960
01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:55,920
Speaker 1: you know they're championships that were just held at the

1961
01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:58,920
Speaker 1: Coliseum and the Fairgrounds, and now the announcement that they

1962
01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:02,680
Speaker 1: will move that to up where the Noblesville Boom play

1963
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, in Noblesville for next year and

1964
01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:10,439
Speaker 1: that move. But the Horizon League in general, and the

1965
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:13,759
Speaker 1: moving forward with the NCAA tournament, and in even trying

1966
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:16,559
Speaker 1: to get to the point of always trying to become

1967
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:19,559
Speaker 1: a two team league, which everybody does because of the

1968
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:23,000
Speaker 1: financial aspect that comes with that. What are some of

1969
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:27,760
Speaker 1: the challenges or for that matter, even optimistic aspects of

1970
01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:30,000
Speaker 1: the Horizon League. And I bring up that league because

1971
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 1: you worked there, but also because they're based right here

1972
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:32,880
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis.

1973
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:37,600
Speaker 4: Sure, I think. I mean we're seeing now with the

1974
01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 4: whole landscape shift of name, image, likeness or nil, that

1975
01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:47,960
Speaker 4: gap between the highly resourced programs which are mainly the

1976
01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:52,040
Speaker 4: power for conferences, and I throw the Big East in

1977
01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:56,280
Speaker 4: there too, and the rest is just widened. So that

1978
01:48:56,320 --> 01:49:00,000
Speaker 4: makes it harder for the league as strong as Therion

1979
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:04,120
Speaker 4: in the league to say, yes, our strategy and we're

1980
01:49:04,120 --> 01:49:06,320
Speaker 4: going to judge success and failure by getting a second

1981
01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:09,240
Speaker 4: team in Where our league shifted and I think some

1982
01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:12,040
Speaker 4: others have is saying, yeah, of course we would love

1983
01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:15,040
Speaker 4: to have a second team in, but for our league champion,

1984
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:18,920
Speaker 4: we also care a whole lot about what seed they

1985
01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:22,959
Speaker 4: have in that insay bracket. So, for instance, when Oakland

1986
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:28,160
Speaker 4: a few years ago was awarded the thirteen seed instead

1987
01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:30,919
Speaker 4: of the fourteen seed and then that master m against Kentucky,

1988
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:34,439
Speaker 4: they were the best. They were a very strong thirteen seed.

1989
01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:37,000
Speaker 4: I think Kentucky was the worst fourth seed, if that

1990
01:49:37,000 --> 01:49:42,080
Speaker 4: makes sense, right right, Well, but the point was that

1991
01:49:42,160 --> 01:49:45,080
Speaker 4: really mattered, even though it was still an upset and

1992
01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 4: people are still talking about it. Had Oakland been a

1993
01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 4: fourteen seed, the percentage a chance of them winning goes

1994
01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:56,439
Speaker 4: down pretty significantly. And then, frankly, the real barrier is

1995
01:49:56,479 --> 01:49:59,200
Speaker 4: if you can break a twelve seed or better than,

1996
01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 4: your chances of winning as you might expect really start

1997
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:06,000
Speaker 4: to climb into realistic So, yeah, you see twelve seeds

1998
01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:08,000
Speaker 4: win and it's an upset, but not nearly as much

1999
01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:11,519
Speaker 4: statistically speaking as a thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, and then of

2000
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 4: course sixteen or those We can list those on one hand.

2001
01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:17,519
Speaker 4: So from a horizon like perspective, it's a long answer,

2002
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:19,880
Speaker 4: but we started to really say, hey, the strategy here,

2003
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:21,479
Speaker 4: isn't just to get a second team in. It's to

2004
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:25,080
Speaker 4: really have a strong seed path, because even winning a

2005
01:50:25,160 --> 01:50:27,760
Speaker 4: game then you earn another unit and that has the

2006
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:29,960
Speaker 4: same financial impact as getting a second team in.

2007
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:34,160
Speaker 1: How hard is it though, because part of elevating your

2008
01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:38,800
Speaker 1: profile to improve your seeding would be playing games in

2009
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 1: November or December that go into that Quad one or

2010
01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:45,280
Speaker 1: quad too. But yet, isn't it difficult for an Oakland

2011
01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 1: or an IU in d or a Robert Morris to

2012
01:50:47,400 --> 01:50:51,040
Speaker 1: go and schedule a power for school because those schools

2013
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:55,200
Speaker 1: see that as high risk, little reward, right, Well.

2014
01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:57,280
Speaker 4: Not necessarily, because the power school is like that, like

2015
01:50:57,320 --> 01:51:00,320
Speaker 4: the win right, because they're they're either trying to their

2016
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:03,240
Speaker 4: team and bring brand together, especially now because it's mainly

2017
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:06,080
Speaker 4: new rosters, so they're willing to pay teams to come in.

2018
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:08,640
Speaker 4: So it's a nice payday for our school for the

2019
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:11,960
Speaker 4: mid majors. And for instance, the Oakland year when they

2020
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:15,880
Speaker 4: had the thirteen seed, they played Xavier and they won

2021
01:51:16,080 --> 01:51:17,800
Speaker 4: and that ended up being a Quad one because it

2022
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:20,120
Speaker 4: was on the road for them. But then they also

2023
01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:23,200
Speaker 4: went on the road and played three or four other

2024
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:26,840
Speaker 4: Power Force schools lost, but the margin they didn't get

2025
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:29,839
Speaker 4: blown out right, and the margin matters whenever it comes

2026
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:32,800
Speaker 4: to the NCAA, statistics are net as it's called. So

2027
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:35,960
Speaker 4: it ended up like all of those factors matter. But

2028
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:39,920
Speaker 4: what you do before league play starts for any conference

2029
01:51:40,160 --> 01:51:44,559
Speaker 4: really matters how you're seated. But once selection Sunday comes.

2030
01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:47,599
Speaker 1: Around, it's my understanding that when this is all Juli

2031
01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:50,120
Speaker 1: ra Lash is my guest from Pacer Sports and Entertainment,

2032
01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:51,720
Speaker 1: and you know, there's a lot of work to be

2033
01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:53,960
Speaker 1: done between now and the end of the weekend, and

2034
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:56,880
Speaker 1: then with anybody, you like to kind of get away

2035
01:51:56,960 --> 01:51:59,240
Speaker 1: once all of the work is done and maybe catch

2036
01:51:59,240 --> 01:52:01,160
Speaker 1: your breath a little. But now, my understanding is that

2037
01:52:01,240 --> 01:52:04,479
Speaker 1: you occasionally will go fish when you relax. Is that correct?

2038
01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:09,120
Speaker 4: I do, yes, I don't fish for that Hawaiian state fish. Well,

2039
01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:10,639
Speaker 4: I loved a bass fish.

2040
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:13,519
Speaker 1: So have you ever caught a reef trigger fish? By chance?

2041
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:14,400
Speaker 4: I have not.

2042
01:52:14,640 --> 01:52:18,120
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with the reef triggerfish? Okay, well, that's

2043
01:52:18,200 --> 01:52:20,479
Speaker 1: kind of the common term for it, more specifically known

2044
01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:23,960
Speaker 1: as the humuhuma nuka nukuapuah, which happens to be the

2045
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:25,720
Speaker 1: state fish of Waii, and that is spelled if you'd

2046
01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:28,000
Speaker 1: like to look it up. H U m u, h

2047
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:31,680
Speaker 1: u m u. You in UK, you in UK? You a

2048
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:38,000
Speaker 1: p u, A little squiggly thing, A apostrophe. Well it's

2049
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:40,680
Speaker 1: an apostrophe, but it's Hawaiian, right, so it's it's kind

2050
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:42,680
Speaker 1: of like those rolls, like you think it's a role,

2051
01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:44,719
Speaker 1: but it's a Hawaiian role. Tastes a little different, little sweeter.

2052
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:45,759
Speaker 1: There's a little sweeter apostrop.

2053
01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:47,479
Speaker 2: The most impressive part about that, Julie, is that he

2054
01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:49,639
Speaker 2: was staring at me the entire time. He wasn't reading

2055
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:51,840
Speaker 2: off like a monitor screen or really like that.

2056
01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:54,800
Speaker 1: Listen, Julie, and and and I know that you know

2057
01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:57,000
Speaker 1: you've got bigger fish to fry here. Pardon the pund

2058
01:52:57,760 --> 01:52:59,479
Speaker 1: on your day, but I should leave you with this,

2059
01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:02,920
Speaker 1: just so you know. You are talking to the nineteen

2060
01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:06,599
Speaker 1: eighty four Allisonville Elementary School Spelling Bee runner up. And

2061
01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:09,320
Speaker 1: would you like to know the word that ousted me

2062
01:53:09,479 --> 01:53:10,400
Speaker 1: and the spelling bee.

2063
01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:12,839
Speaker 4: I'm really curious.

2064
01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure that this is at the top of your

2065
01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 1: list of things that you were thinking about today. Carfair

2066
01:53:17,560 --> 01:53:20,760
Speaker 1: is the word that I missed? Carfair? Now I went

2067
01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:25,000
Speaker 1: cr FA and then all of a sudden I thought

2068
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:27,639
Speaker 1: of that scene from Breaking Away where the guy has

2069
01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:30,840
Speaker 1: the car lot with all the flags everywhere, and I, well,

2070
01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:32,640
Speaker 1: I mean quite frankly, I choked and I went, I

2071
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:37,479
Speaker 1: are car fair? Okay, well it's obviously car far e. Now,

2072
01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:41,320
Speaker 1: Jody Sheer had to spell a word to win the

2073
01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:43,200
Speaker 1: spelling Bee, So I still have a hope and a

2074
01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 1: prayer here, right, I still have a hope and a prayer. Right,

2075
01:53:46,720 --> 01:53:48,920
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm Braylan Mullins. The ball is coming

2076
01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:51,559
Speaker 1: back to me. I've got a shot here, right, let's

2077
01:53:51,640 --> 01:53:53,880
Speaker 1: take it, Jody Shear. You want to know the words

2078
01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:59,439
Speaker 1: she had to spell to win? Yes, car hop? Yeah, exactly,

2079
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:00,679
Speaker 1: exactly right.

2080
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:05,840
Speaker 4: Well, you guys were probably in overtime, that's my guest,

2081
01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:07,160
Speaker 4: so they had to give her again.

2082
01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:09,040
Speaker 1: May just to close it, Well, I will tell you

2083
01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:12,959
Speaker 1: it speaks volumes about the spelling aptitude of Allisonville Elementary

2084
01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:14,920
Speaker 1: School that the final two and we were only into

2085
01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:18,240
Speaker 1: the seas of the actual listing of words, and the

2086
01:54:18,280 --> 01:54:20,639
Speaker 1: fact that she got car hop. Forty two years later,

2087
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:22,880
Speaker 1: I've never once seen Jody Sheare in my life without

2088
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:25,519
Speaker 1: mentioning car Hop incredulously, because I consider it to be

2089
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:27,320
Speaker 1: one of the great rob jobs in the history of sport.

2090
01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:29,920
Speaker 2: I guess that, Julie. I do have a question, with

2091
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:32,280
Speaker 2: all three of these games happening on Sunday, between the

2092
01:54:32,360 --> 01:54:34,880
Speaker 2: n Championship, Division two and Division three, is there a

2093
01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:38,040
Speaker 2: ticket that someone can purchase to see all three games?

2094
01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:41,680
Speaker 2: Or is every game ticket sold individually?

2095
01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:45,520
Speaker 4: No one ticket at games you had missioned for all three?

2096
01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:47,480
Speaker 1: Are tickets still available?

2097
01:54:48,040 --> 01:54:50,680
Speaker 4: Yes, we would love to see you come join us.

2098
01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:54,040
Speaker 1: Because that, honestly, that is what an awesome opportunity to

2099
01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:56,120
Speaker 1: come down. And I also noticed by the way and

2100
01:54:56,160 --> 01:54:59,400
Speaker 1: the schools that are participating in this. Okay, you've got

2101
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:01,880
Speaker 1: the University of Mary Washington and Emery that is the

2102
01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:06,320
Speaker 1: Division three Championship, Division two Championship, Gannon and Lander, and

2103
01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:09,440
Speaker 1: then the NIT. Of course the finals will be set

2104
01:55:09,520 --> 01:55:14,160
Speaker 1: as well. I did notice we did some research on this, Julie.

2105
01:55:14,160 --> 01:55:18,920
Speaker 1: The University of Mary Washington was originally labeled as when

2106
01:55:18,920 --> 01:55:22,280
Speaker 1: it opened in nineteen oh eight, the normal School for women.

2107
01:55:22,360 --> 01:55:24,040
Speaker 1: And I'd like to know what the women were like

2108
01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:25,400
Speaker 1: at the rival school.

2109
01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:29,160
Speaker 4: For what it's worth, right, that's fair.

2110
01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:31,680
Speaker 1: Yes, normal school for women, but that is now Mary

2111
01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:35,360
Speaker 1: Washington named for the mother of George Washington, who also

2112
01:55:35,400 --> 01:55:38,919
Speaker 1: had mashed potatoes. Julie, we appreciate the time as always

2113
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:41,960
Speaker 1: and probably will try to make it over on Sunday.

2114
01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:43,520
Speaker 1: It's going to be a great day of basketball, great

2115
01:55:43,560 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 1: weekend of basketball, and on behalf of not just myself

2116
01:55:47,240 --> 01:55:50,080
Speaker 1: but the fans and the people of Indianapolis. Thank you

2117
01:55:50,120 --> 01:55:52,440
Speaker 1: to you and everybody else for helping put it together

2118
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:54,760
Speaker 1: because once again it'll be the ultimate stage for our

2119
01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:57,040
Speaker 1: fair city. We appreciate it well, thank you.

2120
01:55:57,120 --> 01:55:58,200
Speaker 4: It's our privilege.

2121
01:55:58,400 --> 01:56:01,200
Speaker 1: Julie were last joining me on the p And by

2122
01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:03,000
Speaker 1: the way, I think Eddie, just so you know, when

2123
01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:05,240
Speaker 1: you're in Hawaii, do not go fishing for the humu

2124
01:56:05,320 --> 01:56:08,400
Speaker 1: human nukunaguapuwah. I don't think. I think it's a protected

2125
01:56:08,440 --> 01:56:12,000
Speaker 1: species there. It is the official fish of the state. Right. Yeah,

2126
01:56:12,280 --> 01:56:15,120
Speaker 1: like you can't go in Indiana if people find out

2127
01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:17,800
Speaker 1: that you're running around and you're grabbing cardinals and but

2128
01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:20,000
Speaker 1: that's you're going to have a problem there, right right.

2129
01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:24,200
Speaker 2: And also to not touch the sea turtles, oh really

2130
01:56:24,680 --> 01:56:27,200
Speaker 2: also protected right now? Apparently they get aggressive.

2131
01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:31,520
Speaker 1: They are there. They're yappers, is what they are, right, yappers?

2132
01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:36,000
Speaker 1: They are now just so you know, Also, the p

2133
01:56:36,160 --> 01:56:37,480
Speaker 1: and e. Do you know the pen is the state

2134
01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:38,280
Speaker 1: flower of Indiana.

2135
01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:38,600
Speaker 2: I do.

2136
01:56:39,280 --> 01:56:41,880
Speaker 1: Now that's a this is the time of year we're

2137
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:43,680
Speaker 1: entering into p and e season, but you only have

2138
01:56:43,960 --> 01:56:45,920
Speaker 1: they are a little bit like the Mackinaw peaches. You

2139
01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:48,720
Speaker 1: have three weeks to get them. Literally, if you go

2140
01:56:48,760 --> 01:56:50,000
Speaker 1: into a store and you try to buy a p

2141
01:56:50,080 --> 01:56:51,520
Speaker 1: and e they'll let you know, like, no, no, no, we're

2142
01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:53,160
Speaker 1: not in p and E season. And then p and

2143
01:56:53,160 --> 01:56:56,200
Speaker 1: e season literally is like nineteen days. I've never actually

2144
01:56:56,240 --> 01:56:57,720
Speaker 1: had a peny. I think I'd like to have a

2145
01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:01,560
Speaker 1: pene just because it's the state flower of Indiana, and

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01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:04,080
Speaker 1: I believe Can you look this up for me, please, Eddie,

2147
01:57:04,200 --> 01:57:06,760
Speaker 1: the state tree of Indiana. I want to say it's

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01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:09,840
Speaker 1: the dogwood, but I could be incorrect in that you

2149
01:57:09,880 --> 01:57:12,400
Speaker 1: would think the sycamore. The dogwood might be Virginia. I

2150
01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:14,480
Speaker 1: had to do my state report on Virginia in fifth grade,

2151
01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 1: and I maybe thinking of Virginia.

2152
01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:19,720
Speaker 2: Ooh, it's not and it's not a dogwood, is it?

2153
01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:20,200
Speaker 1: Sycamore?

2154
01:57:20,520 --> 01:57:21,440
Speaker 2: Is not sycamore?

2155
01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:23,920
Speaker 1: I should know this. I'm a little embarrassed that I

2156
01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:29,320
Speaker 1: don't know this first letter, please t of the tulip tree. Yes?

2157
01:57:29,600 --> 01:57:31,600
Speaker 2: Is it really not to be confused with the threelip tree?

2158
01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:35,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, the tulip tree. Really, yes, I would think

2159
01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:38,480
Speaker 1: that's that surprises me because you would think the tulip

2160
01:57:38,520 --> 01:57:40,440
Speaker 1: tree would have some rival with the peony.

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01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:43,840
Speaker 2: It was designated as the official state tree in nineteen

2162
01:57:44,200 --> 01:57:44,880
Speaker 2: thirty one.

2163
01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:49,280
Speaker 1: Okay, the cardinal is the state bird, right, It's on

2164
01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:52,000
Speaker 1: our driver's license, right, and you look up the state

2165
01:57:52,040 --> 01:57:54,000
Speaker 1: bird of Indiana. I'm pretty sure it's the cardinal.

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01:57:53,760 --> 01:57:56,240
Speaker 2: The Northern Cardinal, Yes, not to be confused with the

2167
01:57:56,240 --> 01:57:58,600
Speaker 2: eastern or southern or western or south northern.

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01:57:59,200 --> 01:58:00,720
Speaker 1: The Northern of India cardinal.

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01:58:01,320 --> 01:58:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, India, the Northern Cardinal is the official state bird.

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01:58:05,320 --> 01:58:07,600
Speaker 1: The Northern Indiana Cardinal, or just the Northern.

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01:58:07,400 --> 01:58:09,600
Speaker 2: Cardinal and the Northern Cardinal in general.

2172
01:58:09,640 --> 01:58:12,040
Speaker 1: So if you found a cardinal in Madison or Evansville,

2173
01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:14,400
Speaker 1: is it still a Northern Cardinal. That's a good question.

2174
01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:17,760
Speaker 1: It would have to be, right. I mean, Southport's the cardinals.

2175
01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:21,360
Speaker 1: They're kind of right in the middle. But I would

2176
01:58:21,360 --> 01:58:24,160
Speaker 1: think that it's got to mean northern Cardinal, meaning northern

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01:58:24,160 --> 01:58:26,640
Speaker 1: half of the United States, not to be confused with

2178
01:58:26,680 --> 01:58:30,840
Speaker 1: the Southern Cardinal, right, which very very polite, the Southern

2179
01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:35,520
Speaker 1: car For what it's worth, Carli Orsay Gordon did talk

2180
01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:39,280
Speaker 1: about the situation with both the coach and the general

2181
01:58:39,320 --> 01:58:41,920
Speaker 1: manager of the colts. Did so from the owner's meeting.

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01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:43,720
Speaker 1: We'll let you know what she had and we'll decipher it.

2183
01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:44,040
Speaker 4: Next.

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01:58:46,480 --> 01:58:49,160
Speaker 1: Love this song? Are you familiar with the song? Eddie?

2185
01:58:49,800 --> 01:58:50,920
Speaker 2: I am familiar with the song.

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01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:59,560
Speaker 1: Yes, you're anybody break your stride? No, well, you sometimes

2187
01:58:59,600 --> 01:59:04,400
Speaker 1: depend on the day. It's cloudy out again. I think today,

2188
01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:07,880
Speaker 1: actually we've had like this fairly fun productive show. I

2189
01:59:07,880 --> 01:59:11,040
Speaker 1: think today represents the antithesis of the look outside the window,

2190
01:59:11,160 --> 01:59:11,480
Speaker 1: is it not?

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01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:15,880
Speaker 2: We have discussed the humuhumunukunukuapa waha to the nth degree.

2192
01:59:15,960 --> 01:59:17,360
Speaker 2: We just discussed cardinals.

2193
01:59:18,280 --> 01:59:20,760
Speaker 1: It's the tulip poplar, I'm told, by the way, the

2194
01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:26,360
Speaker 1: state tree really not the unpopular exactly. The tulip poplar

2195
01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:29,560
Speaker 1: is because it's from Indiana. It's a little bit more

2196
01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:30,320
Speaker 1: pop right.

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01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:33,120
Speaker 2: Did you know the northern Cardinal Jake is the state bird?

2198
01:59:33,160 --> 01:59:35,880
Speaker 2: Or seven states? Can I guess the states? Well, you

2199
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:37,840
Speaker 2: already know one Indiana?

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01:59:38,440 --> 01:59:43,800
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna go with Illinois. Correct, I'm feeling

2201
01:59:44,480 --> 01:59:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm feeling just a twitch of North Dakota here. No,

2202
01:59:48,720 --> 01:59:53,080
Speaker 1: and that's probably the penguin. Okay, Pennsylvania. No, how far

2203
01:59:53,160 --> 01:59:56,400
Speaker 1: north were we talking? What's the southernmost state that that

2204
01:59:57,000 --> 01:59:59,000
Speaker 1: claims the northern Cardinal.

2205
01:59:58,960 --> 02:00:00,280
Speaker 2: The southernmost eight?

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02:00:00,400 --> 02:00:04,960
Speaker 1: Yes, I'll go with Arkansas. No, Arkansas, by the you

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02:00:05,000 --> 02:00:08,000
Speaker 1: know another strong suit. I have another odd characteristic and

2208
02:00:08,040 --> 02:00:10,200
Speaker 1: skill that I know. I can tell you the state

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02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:13,240
Speaker 1: nickname for every state, like Arkansas, by the way, is

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02:00:13,280 --> 02:00:18,840
Speaker 1: the natural state. I'll go one more, guess Pennsylvania.

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02:00:19,960 --> 02:00:24,680
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania would be incorrect. Okay, the seven states, the Northern

2212
02:00:24,680 --> 02:00:32,400
Speaker 2: Cardinals the state bird of Indiana, Illinois, Kentucky, North Carolina, Ohio, Virginia,

2213
02:00:32,600 --> 02:00:33,560
Speaker 2: and West Virginia.

2214
02:00:34,040 --> 02:00:38,320
Speaker 1: North Carolina. Yep. How confused are the Northern Cardinals that

2215
02:00:38,360 --> 02:00:40,400
Speaker 1: are in North Carolina? Does that just mean the northern

2216
02:00:40,400 --> 02:00:41,200
Speaker 1: part of Carolina?

2217
02:00:41,400 --> 02:00:43,640
Speaker 2: Well, they obviously don't go to South Carolina because they're

2218
02:00:43,640 --> 02:00:44,880
Speaker 2: not South Cardinals, Jake.

2219
02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:47,520
Speaker 1: I guess right, that's is that where they draw the line?

2220
02:00:47,640 --> 02:00:51,560
Speaker 2: I guess. Okay, So there you go.

2221
02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:55,040
Speaker 1: Out in Arizona, the Grand Canyon State, by the way,

2222
02:00:56,320 --> 02:00:59,720
Speaker 1: Carli Orsa Gordon talked with JJ Stankmitz of The Colts

2223
02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:05,720
Speaker 1: and talked about the relationship between Chris Ballard and Shane Steichen.

2224
02:01:07,720 --> 02:01:09,640
Speaker 1: And I'm going to go back to what I talked

2225
02:01:09,680 --> 02:01:14,920
Speaker 1: about earlier a couple of things when it comes to

2226
02:01:14,960 --> 02:01:22,400
Speaker 1: Carli Orsa Gordon Number one, I know that like when

2227
02:01:22,440 --> 02:01:26,160
Speaker 1: she's walking the sidelines and she's wearing the headsets and

2228
02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:30,720
Speaker 1: she's got the notepad and she's writing things down. That's

2229
02:01:30,760 --> 02:01:37,840
Speaker 1: an easy point of cynicism. It's an easy thing to

2230
02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:40,320
Speaker 1: look at that and say, like, what is she even

2231
02:01:40,360 --> 02:01:46,760
Speaker 1: doing here? And I get it, but I think somewhat

2232
02:01:46,920 --> 02:01:49,600
Speaker 1: and I won't even go to make it a gender issue,

2233
02:01:49,640 --> 02:01:52,760
Speaker 1: even though I think that comes in play. But a

2234
02:01:52,760 --> 02:01:55,400
Speaker 1: lot of it is just an age thing. And a

2235
02:01:58,040 --> 02:02:01,200
Speaker 1: has not worked elsewhere, you know, at least publicly, and

2236
02:02:01,280 --> 02:02:04,040
Speaker 1: so therefore there's the bin. You know, people are always

2237
02:02:04,040 --> 02:02:07,000
Speaker 1: whenever you have someone that is in a family business

2238
02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:11,160
Speaker 1: and they inherit the family business, even if they've been

2239
02:02:11,200 --> 02:02:15,040
Speaker 1: around it forever, the immediate reaction for people is going

2240
02:02:15,080 --> 02:02:17,520
Speaker 1: to be to find reasons why it's not going to work,

2241
02:02:18,680 --> 02:02:23,240
Speaker 1: and in her case, things that truthfully, she may do

2242
02:02:23,360 --> 02:02:27,520
Speaker 1: on the sidelines if it was somebody that was a

2243
02:02:27,560 --> 02:02:30,560
Speaker 1: member of the Rooney family that had been around forever

2244
02:02:31,520 --> 02:02:34,920
Speaker 1: and you know, had owned the team for fifteen years,

2245
02:02:34,920 --> 02:02:37,280
Speaker 1: nobody would think anything of it. But they want to

2246
02:02:37,320 --> 02:02:43,160
Speaker 1: point out the oddity of it because she's new in

2247
02:02:43,200 --> 02:02:51,960
Speaker 1: that position. It's unusual for that position, and frankly, from

2248
02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:54,560
Speaker 1: a gender standpoint, you know, she is in a minority

2249
02:02:54,560 --> 02:02:57,880
Speaker 1: in that position, and so therefore there's a natural skepticism

2250
02:02:57,920 --> 02:03:01,360
Speaker 1: that some people are going to have. But what it

2251
02:03:01,440 --> 02:03:06,560
Speaker 1: indicates to me is that she is observant. Whether she

2252
02:03:07,840 --> 02:03:12,680
Speaker 1: is observant to the point of ingesting and remembering and

2253
02:03:12,720 --> 02:03:16,240
Speaker 1: recalling and reflecting upon the important aspects of it, I

2254
02:03:16,240 --> 02:03:20,000
Speaker 1: don't know, but it appears as though she is observant

2255
02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:23,840
Speaker 1: of everything going on around her, and if she has

2256
02:03:23,880 --> 02:03:28,920
Speaker 1: to undoubtedly be aware of the precedent of what happens

2257
02:03:28,920 --> 02:03:30,720
Speaker 1: when you have a general manager and a coach that

2258
02:03:30,760 --> 02:03:37,080
Speaker 1: are not on the same page. And she invariably witnessed

2259
02:03:39,520 --> 02:03:44,480
Speaker 1: the oddity. There's that word again of when Jim or say,

2260
02:03:44,760 --> 02:03:48,080
Speaker 1: held the press conference with Chuck Pegano and Ryan Gregson

2261
02:03:49,920 --> 02:03:55,160
Speaker 1: and everybody was anticipating and waiting for when we got

2262
02:03:55,280 --> 02:04:00,520
Speaker 1: the memo there was a press conference. We all got

2263
02:04:00,520 --> 02:04:02,400
Speaker 1: word there was going to be a press conference, and

2264
02:04:02,440 --> 02:04:05,200
Speaker 1: everybody was like, okay, which is it Greggs Center, Pagano,

2265
02:04:05,280 --> 02:04:09,000
Speaker 1: Griggs Center, Pagano, And the Grigson or Pagano discussion went

2266
02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:12,560
Speaker 1: on for a very long time. Which one is it

2267
02:04:12,560 --> 02:04:22,480
Speaker 1: going to be? And at that time, the the thought

2268
02:04:22,480 --> 02:04:24,920
Speaker 1: process was for certain that Pegana was gone or that

2269
02:04:24,960 --> 02:04:28,560
Speaker 1: Gregson was gone, or maybe both. And then Jim Mersey

2270
02:04:28,600 --> 02:04:31,520
Speaker 1: comes out and says, you know, we had the meeting

2271
02:04:31,600 --> 02:04:33,800
Speaker 1: and tears were shed. And this was like at nine

2272
02:04:33,800 --> 02:04:37,120
Speaker 1: o'clock at night, and they're attached at the hip and

2273
02:04:37,160 --> 02:04:41,240
Speaker 1: they did the press conference, and Gregson looked very uncomfortable

2274
02:04:41,280 --> 02:04:44,440
Speaker 1: and Pegano looked almost in shock. And here it is

2275
02:04:45,040 --> 02:04:48,600
Speaker 1: the photo op of the three of them up there,

2276
02:04:49,160 --> 02:04:53,680
Speaker 1: and everybody is thinking to themselves is this going to work?

2277
02:04:54,160 --> 02:05:00,920
Speaker 1: And it didn't. And obviously then Gregson was one let go.

2278
02:05:01,240 --> 02:05:06,800
Speaker 1: And let me also go back to say I didn't

2279
02:05:06,800 --> 02:05:10,360
Speaker 1: have much relationship with Ryan Grigson. It would be disingenuous

2280
02:05:10,400 --> 02:05:12,640
Speaker 1: to say that I have a relationship with him now,

2281
02:05:13,000 --> 02:05:17,160
Speaker 1: but certainly a line of communication that I do and

2282
02:05:17,640 --> 02:05:21,680
Speaker 1: or have had, and have really liked him. The same

2283
02:05:21,720 --> 02:05:25,680
Speaker 1: with Chuck Pagano. I like both of them. I think

2284
02:05:25,720 --> 02:05:30,560
Speaker 1: both are really decent people and had some things they

2285
02:05:30,560 --> 02:05:32,280
Speaker 1: did really well. Both of them had some things they

2286
02:05:32,320 --> 02:05:36,840
Speaker 1: did not do as well. But at the time that

2287
02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:39,440
Speaker 1: Jim Orsay made the decision that he was going to

2288
02:05:39,480 --> 02:05:44,160
Speaker 1: hold on to both, later when things really went south,

2289
02:05:44,360 --> 02:05:48,840
Speaker 1: the cults that did then did a third party essentially

2290
02:05:48,960 --> 02:05:53,440
Speaker 1: inventory or examination or study of the culture within the building,

2291
02:05:54,360 --> 02:05:58,200
Speaker 1: and based on that it was determined that Ryan Grigson

2292
02:05:58,240 --> 02:05:59,840
Speaker 1: is the one that they needed to part ways with,

2293
02:06:00,040 --> 02:06:03,840
Speaker 1: and they did. And then you had Chris Ballard brought in,

2294
02:06:04,040 --> 02:06:09,160
Speaker 1: who now had essentially a lame duck coach who was

2295
02:06:09,280 --> 02:06:13,600
Speaker 1: in one kind of transitional year of a trial period,

2296
02:06:13,680 --> 02:06:16,880
Speaker 1: and it just never worked because that wasn't the coach

2297
02:06:16,960 --> 02:06:21,240
Speaker 1: that Chris Ballard hired. It was one that he essentially inherited.

2298
02:06:21,840 --> 02:06:23,920
Speaker 1: And then he goes and he picks Josh McDaniel and

2299
02:06:23,920 --> 02:06:26,480
Speaker 1: that doesn't work out. So then Jim Mersey says, like,

2300
02:06:26,560 --> 02:06:29,600
Speaker 1: I think Frank Reich is the guy. Now Frank Wright

2301
02:06:29,680 --> 02:06:32,520
Speaker 1: comes in, and again I'm not saying that he and

2302
02:06:32,560 --> 02:06:34,920
Speaker 1: Balard didn't get along, but it never totally worked, and

2303
02:06:34,960 --> 02:06:40,120
Speaker 1: it wasn't really Ballard's Frank Reich indicated a situation where

2304
02:06:40,160 --> 02:06:42,840
Speaker 1: the owner usurped the authority to an extent of the

2305
02:06:42,840 --> 02:06:46,800
Speaker 1: general manager. And I think Carli Ersa Gordon observed all

2306
02:06:46,840 --> 02:06:51,400
Speaker 1: of this and took note of all of this. And

2307
02:06:51,480 --> 02:06:55,120
Speaker 1: now in a situation where people are insistent that they

2308
02:06:55,160 --> 02:06:57,520
Speaker 1: get rid of one or the other, and in some

2309
02:06:57,560 --> 02:07:01,560
Speaker 1: cases many fans felt both, I think she thought about

2310
02:07:01,600 --> 02:07:05,080
Speaker 1: the precedent and realized that having a GM that's a

2311
02:07:05,120 --> 02:07:09,240
Speaker 1: ten and a coach that's a six can work if

2312
02:07:09,240 --> 02:07:11,000
Speaker 1: they're so long as they're side by side. I'm not

2313
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:13,440
Speaker 1: saying that's what these two guys are. I'm saying, generically speaking,

2314
02:07:13,680 --> 02:07:15,120
Speaker 1: or if you have a coach that's a ten and

2315
02:07:15,160 --> 02:07:17,920
Speaker 1: a GM that's a six, it can work so long

2316
02:07:17,960 --> 02:07:20,400
Speaker 1: as they're working side by side. You have a coach

2317
02:07:20,480 --> 02:07:22,480
Speaker 1: that's a ten and a GM that's a ten. If

2318
02:07:22,480 --> 02:07:25,640
Speaker 1: they don't get along and they don't see things and

2319
02:07:25,720 --> 02:07:29,080
Speaker 1: complete each other's sentences, you got a problem. And I

2320
02:07:29,120 --> 02:07:32,720
Speaker 1: think she feels like she has two men that can

2321
02:07:32,760 --> 02:07:36,480
Speaker 1: complete each other's sentences, and that sort of chemistry is

2322
02:07:36,520 --> 02:07:37,200
Speaker 1: important to her.

2323
02:07:37,240 --> 02:07:40,440
Speaker 5: With Chris and Chane, obviously, I think one of the

2324
02:07:40,440 --> 02:07:44,360
Speaker 5: biggest pieces I always say is, you know, we did

2325
02:07:44,400 --> 02:07:47,480
Speaker 5: a regression analysis a long time ago about you know

2326
02:07:47,520 --> 02:07:49,800
Speaker 5: what is sort of the I don't want to call

2327
02:07:49,840 --> 02:07:54,560
Speaker 5: it the kiss of death for where a general manager

2328
02:07:54,600 --> 02:07:57,080
Speaker 5: and head coach don't succeed. And one of the things

2329
02:07:57,080 --> 02:08:00,520
Speaker 5: that we found is when you simultaneously hi them and

2330
02:08:00,560 --> 02:08:03,800
Speaker 5: when you think about it, it makes total sense. So imagine

2331
02:08:03,880 --> 02:08:08,200
Speaker 5: hiring one one person has to do this another person

2332
02:08:08,400 --> 02:08:10,320
Speaker 5: and you just are like, I hope you get along,

2333
02:08:11,040 --> 02:08:16,320
Speaker 5: you know, versus I think that you know, Chris with

2334
02:08:16,360 --> 02:08:19,120
Speaker 5: his tenure with us, I think it was we were

2335
02:08:19,160 --> 02:08:21,680
Speaker 5: able to go out when we found Shane and really

2336
02:08:21,720 --> 02:08:26,160
Speaker 5: make sure that we had someone that complimented Chris's style.

2337
02:08:27,480 --> 02:08:30,720
Speaker 5: And I think I think they have a great relationship.

2338
02:08:31,360 --> 02:08:32,400
Speaker 5: I love working with them.

2339
02:08:34,040 --> 02:08:38,360
Speaker 1: I think that's important to her, honestly. Now that's not

2340
02:08:38,520 --> 02:08:41,880
Speaker 1: to say this isn't a big year, and it is.

2341
02:08:42,080 --> 02:08:47,880
Speaker 1: Obviously it is definitely a big year. And if I

2342
02:08:48,360 --> 02:08:55,760
Speaker 1: think I still believe this as well, understandably so when

2343
02:08:55,800 --> 02:08:59,520
Speaker 1: you there are so many things that have gone into

2344
02:09:00,200 --> 02:09:06,320
Speaker 1: because again there is no I get uncomfortable when people

2345
02:09:06,360 --> 02:09:09,040
Speaker 1: say the untimely passing, as if there's a good time

2346
02:09:09,120 --> 02:09:19,120
Speaker 1: for to lose a loved one, but relatively speaking, one

2347
02:09:19,160 --> 02:09:23,480
Speaker 1: would assume the unexpected passing. I mean, Jim Mersey had

2348
02:09:23,480 --> 02:09:26,720
Speaker 1: his challenges from a health standpoint. We know this, but

2349
02:09:28,400 --> 02:09:32,000
Speaker 1: it's still I would excuse me, I would assume it's still.

2350
02:09:32,080 --> 02:09:39,240
Speaker 1: There were like challenges that came into and came with

2351
02:09:39,840 --> 02:09:44,240
Speaker 1: that transfer of power of just the onslaught and what

2352
02:09:44,440 --> 02:09:47,200
Speaker 1: had to be literally a fire hose of information of

2353
02:09:47,200 --> 02:09:50,560
Speaker 1: stuff you've got to wade through between, you know, I

2354
02:09:50,600 --> 02:09:57,080
Speaker 1: mean taxes and inheritance and you know, the the overall

2355
02:09:57,120 --> 02:09:59,880
Speaker 1: ownership stature of it, in figuring out what thing that

2356
02:10:00,080 --> 02:10:02,600
Speaker 1: the sales of this, and that, you know, all of it.

2357
02:10:03,320 --> 02:10:10,120
Speaker 1: I totally understand how football would have legitimately become like

2358
02:10:10,240 --> 02:10:14,440
Speaker 1: secondary of everything else you've got to wade through. You know,

2359
02:10:14,520 --> 02:10:18,000
Speaker 1: it's like all of us. You know, people will ask

2360
02:10:18,040 --> 02:10:19,760
Speaker 1: me like, hey, what are you doing for this race

2361
02:10:19,840 --> 02:10:21,760
Speaker 1: or that race? And I'm like, let me get through

2362
02:10:21,760 --> 02:10:23,760
Speaker 1: this weekend first, and then I can look at that.

2363
02:10:23,880 --> 02:10:26,000
Speaker 1: I can't even look at that until I tackle this.

2364
02:10:26,440 --> 02:10:30,200
Speaker 1: And there has to be has to be an overwhelming

2365
02:10:30,320 --> 02:10:34,280
Speaker 1: nature of Carly Ursa Gordon, with everything that she and

2366
02:10:34,320 --> 02:10:36,840
Speaker 1: her sisters have had to undergo in the last year.

2367
02:10:37,560 --> 02:10:42,480
Speaker 1: There had to be a fair amount of football responsibilities

2368
02:10:42,960 --> 02:10:48,560
Speaker 1: that were relegated to Chris Ballard and Shanstiken under simply

2369
02:10:48,800 --> 02:10:51,680
Speaker 1: the guys of look, I don't have time to get

2370
02:10:51,720 --> 02:10:54,680
Speaker 1: into this right now. We have so many other things

2371
02:10:54,680 --> 02:10:58,200
Speaker 1: that we have to tend to. Please, please be the

2372
02:10:58,280 --> 02:11:01,040
Speaker 1: keeper of the house for right now until I come

2373
02:11:01,080 --> 02:11:05,440
Speaker 1: back and we can talk from an x's and o's

2374
02:11:05,520 --> 02:11:11,280
Speaker 1: wins and losses, touchdowns scored, touchdowns allowed, standpoint till the

2375
02:11:11,320 --> 02:11:15,000
Speaker 1: cows come home about the football aspect of how well

2376
02:11:15,080 --> 02:11:18,320
Speaker 1: they did that. But for right now, it may well

2377
02:11:18,360 --> 02:11:20,960
Speaker 1: be that she's like, hey, what they did do is

2378
02:11:21,040 --> 02:11:24,920
Speaker 1: allowed me to then work on other things. Now it's

2379
02:11:24,960 --> 02:11:27,400
Speaker 1: time to focus on the football aspect of it. And

2380
02:11:27,480 --> 02:11:30,520
Speaker 1: at the very least I can find some piece some

2381
02:11:30,600 --> 02:11:35,160
Speaker 1: comfort and relief to an extent over knowing that I

2382
02:11:35,200 --> 02:11:38,240
Speaker 1: am able to do that with two gentlemen that I

2383
02:11:38,280 --> 02:11:41,200
Speaker 1: have familiarity with and that worked well with one another

2384
02:11:41,760 --> 02:11:48,320
Speaker 1: without me having to oversee it from every moment of

2385
02:11:48,400 --> 02:11:50,640
Speaker 1: the last year because there were so many other things

2386
02:11:50,680 --> 02:11:55,960
Speaker 1: going on. But we'll see. And again, by the way,

2387
02:11:56,040 --> 02:11:59,680
Speaker 1: she mentioned that they are complimentary of one another. Did

2388
02:11:59,680 --> 02:12:02,880
Speaker 1: I tell you about the time Eddie was this past

2389
02:12:02,880 --> 02:12:04,560
Speaker 1: weekend when I was in Did I tell you what

2390
02:12:04,560 --> 02:12:06,320
Speaker 1: happened to me down at Barber when I went to

2391
02:12:06,320 --> 02:12:09,960
Speaker 1: get something to eat. No, I'm sitting there and I

2392
02:12:10,120 --> 02:12:12,760
Speaker 1: usually after a race weekend, I go back to the

2393
02:12:12,760 --> 02:12:14,480
Speaker 1: hotel and I changed because you have I always call

2394
02:12:14,520 --> 02:12:17,080
Speaker 1: it race sludge just got on you, that combination of

2395
02:12:17,440 --> 02:12:22,560
Speaker 1: sunscreen and sweat and you know sauce exhaust all that, right,

2396
02:12:23,000 --> 02:12:26,000
Speaker 1: But for the Barber Motorsports Park, for the race in Birmingham,

2397
02:12:26,040 --> 02:12:28,720
Speaker 1: I actually call that race from from inside a venue,

2398
02:12:28,760 --> 02:12:30,400
Speaker 1: so like I'm not hot, sweaty whatever else.

2399
02:12:30,520 --> 02:12:32,760
Speaker 2: I saw the picture that I think it was Indy

2400
02:12:32,840 --> 02:12:35,120
Speaker 2: Car Radio posted you have a nice little setup there.

2401
02:12:35,440 --> 02:12:39,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's in the museum. Thank you for correcting me

2402
02:12:39,720 --> 02:12:40,760
Speaker 1: earlier on the way I said.

2403
02:12:40,680 --> 02:12:42,160
Speaker 2: I did not correct you because I said it the

2404
02:12:42,160 --> 02:12:43,560
Speaker 2: way you do well, Jam, I.

2405
02:12:43,480 --> 02:12:47,040
Speaker 1: Say, I've always sad museum. But either way, I got

2406
02:12:47,080 --> 02:12:48,960
Speaker 1: done and I went to go get something to eat

2407
02:12:49,000 --> 02:12:52,760
Speaker 1: and watch the end of the Iowa Illinois game. And

2408
02:12:52,840 --> 02:12:55,000
Speaker 1: I sit down and like most and I'm sitting at

2409
02:12:55,040 --> 02:12:58,960
Speaker 1: the bar top across from the hotel, and I'm sitting

2410
02:12:59,040 --> 02:13:01,960
Speaker 1: there and I hear someone say to me, your hair

2411
02:13:02,040 --> 02:13:08,760
Speaker 1: looks fabulous. It startled me, truthfully, it startled me because

2412
02:13:08,760 --> 02:13:12,040
Speaker 1: and my hair did look fabulous though, And and we

2413
02:13:12,040 --> 02:13:15,000
Speaker 1: wear a black shirt that says IndyCar Radio on it,

2414
02:13:15,040 --> 02:13:17,000
Speaker 1: and I usually go change before I go get something

2415
02:13:17,000 --> 02:13:18,720
Speaker 1: to eat, but I didn't have to do that. I

2416
02:13:18,800 --> 02:13:21,880
Speaker 1: just went straight out. And then I was eating Eddie

2417
02:13:21,920 --> 02:13:23,160
Speaker 1: and I heard this, are you ready for this?

2418
02:13:24,920 --> 02:13:26,880
Speaker 2: That black's and awfully slimming color.

2419
02:13:29,680 --> 02:13:31,760
Speaker 1: And I looked around I and there was I was

2420
02:13:31,760 --> 02:13:33,760
Speaker 1: literally the only person in there. And you hear a

2421
02:13:33,800 --> 02:13:36,200
Speaker 1: lot of stories about like hauntings and things like that

2422
02:13:36,280 --> 02:13:39,280
Speaker 1: in the in the Deep South in particular, And I thought,

2423
02:13:39,480 --> 02:13:41,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I've been around race cars

2424
02:13:41,240 --> 02:13:43,440
Speaker 1: all day. I'm probably hearing something. I'm not even sure.

2425
02:13:44,440 --> 02:13:47,720
Speaker 1: And so I went in and ordered what I could

2426
02:13:48,280 --> 02:13:52,560
Speaker 1: or what I wanted, and then finally a lot one

2427
02:13:52,560 --> 02:13:54,040
Speaker 1: more time. And at this point I was getting a

2428
02:13:54,040 --> 02:13:57,360
Speaker 1: little freaked out. But I heard look great with a tan,

2429
02:13:59,520 --> 02:14:04,640
Speaker 1: so now hair tan the slimming black color. And I

2430
02:14:04,960 --> 02:14:07,360
Speaker 1: didn't want to make a scene. And I mean, we

2431
02:14:07,480 --> 02:14:08,240
Speaker 1: just come from the track.

2432
02:14:08,440 --> 02:14:09,640
Speaker 2: You not wanting to make a sign?

2433
02:14:09,840 --> 02:14:12,920
Speaker 1: That's a first, but I did call over the bartender

2434
02:14:12,960 --> 02:14:15,320
Speaker 1: and relayed this to him and told him that. I

2435
02:14:16,120 --> 02:14:18,880
Speaker 1: was like, I'm sorry you have like a is there

2436
02:14:18,880 --> 02:14:21,920
Speaker 1: somebody behind the bar that I can't see? And he

2437
02:14:21,960 --> 02:14:23,680
Speaker 1: looked around and we couldn't figure out where it was

2438
02:14:23,720 --> 02:14:26,440
Speaker 1: coming from. And then finally he goes, oh, wait a minute.

2439
02:14:26,560 --> 02:14:29,120
Speaker 1: It just dawned on me. What And he goes, oh,

2440
02:14:29,160 --> 02:14:30,960
Speaker 1: that's coming from right below you. And I look down

2441
02:14:31,000 --> 02:14:32,160
Speaker 1: there was a little dishare and I said, what are

2442
02:14:32,160 --> 02:14:37,600
Speaker 1: you talking about it? He said, well, the peanuts their complimentary.

2443
02:14:38,280 --> 02:14:41,960
Speaker 1: I mean, do you ever, honestly, when you go home,

2444
02:14:42,000 --> 02:14:44,520
Speaker 1: do you ever say to whoever you go home to,

2445
02:14:44,960 --> 02:14:47,440
Speaker 1: whether it be your girlfriend or your parents, you know,

2446
02:14:47,440 --> 02:14:48,800
Speaker 1: when you see them from time to time, do you

2447
02:14:48,800 --> 02:14:51,320
Speaker 1: ever say you don't realize how lucky I am that

2448
02:14:51,560 --> 02:14:53,840
Speaker 1: three hours a day I get for free? Yeah? I

2449
02:14:53,840 --> 02:14:54,839
Speaker 1: mean you're getting paid.

2450
02:14:54,640 --> 02:14:57,760
Speaker 2: To be here, right, I get paid?

2451
02:14:58,760 --> 02:15:02,520
Speaker 1: Well, last time checked, that might be we may have

2452
02:15:02,520 --> 02:15:03,520
Speaker 1: to look into that as well.

2453
02:15:03,760 --> 02:15:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, after that, this feels more like your therapy sessions

2454
02:15:06,600 --> 02:15:07,200
Speaker 2: every single day.

2455
02:15:07,240 --> 02:15:10,760
Speaker 1: That's right after that scheduling STAFFU that's also in question. Right,

2456
02:15:11,080 --> 02:15:13,240
Speaker 1: we'll go over the schedule for you again. This weekend.

2457
02:15:13,320 --> 02:15:15,760
Speaker 1: Let you know what's happening tomorrow. And JMV I think

2458
02:15:15,880 --> 02:15:17,240
Speaker 1: is in the building. I haven't seen him yet, but

2459
02:15:17,240 --> 02:15:19,560
Speaker 1: we'll do the crossover which on find out what he's

2460
02:15:19,560 --> 02:15:21,520
Speaker 1: gotten loaded up. That will be, of course brought to

2461
02:15:21,520 --> 02:15:23,120
Speaker 1: you by the good guys that love heating and air

2462
02:15:23,360 --> 02:15:26,640
Speaker 1: lovedash HVAC dot com is the website three one seven

2463
02:15:26,680 --> 02:15:32,120
Speaker 1: three five three twenty one the telephone number. What this

2464
02:15:32,240 --> 02:15:38,120
Speaker 1: song was in the Mini Van Extravaganza playlist on the

2465
02:15:38,200 --> 02:15:39,760
Speaker 1: drive back from Barbara Motorsports?

2466
02:15:40,160 --> 02:15:40,680
Speaker 2: Was it really?

2467
02:15:40,720 --> 02:15:45,480
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, great song? Alex Wolf singing this song is

2468
02:15:45,520 --> 02:15:48,960
Speaker 1: something to be add you know what I mean?

2469
02:15:49,040 --> 02:15:50,880
Speaker 2: Does he just talk or does he actually sing?

2470
02:15:56,160 --> 02:16:00,920
Speaker 1: He just kind of says this is a jam. But

2471
02:16:01,040 --> 02:16:01,840
Speaker 1: Eddie is a great song.

2472
02:16:01,920 --> 02:16:03,680
Speaker 2: What kind of music does Alex Wilf like?

2473
02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:07,160
Speaker 1: Alex Wolf, who works with us in IndyCar Radio, Ball

2474
02:16:07,200 --> 02:16:10,920
Speaker 1: State Grad Pride of a Lima, Ohio, is a huge

2475
02:16:10,960 --> 02:16:13,400
Speaker 1: fan of He's kind of an older soul, so he

2476
02:16:13,600 --> 02:16:19,240
Speaker 1: likes like Van Halen, you know, eighty stuff. He's the youngest,

2477
02:16:19,600 --> 02:16:22,920
Speaker 1: so he's like, yeah, except I'm the oldest of three.

2478
02:16:23,200 --> 02:16:26,400
Speaker 1: Well he's Alex and your Eddie. That's right, I mean

2479
02:16:26,560 --> 02:16:30,480
Speaker 1: there we go, find yourself a David Lean or Sammy

2480
02:16:31,400 --> 02:16:34,720
Speaker 1: or a Sammy. What do you got going on tonight, Eddie?

2481
02:16:34,760 --> 02:16:40,080
Speaker 2: Anything exciting, sirs and bulls tonight Jake out in Chicago

2482
02:16:41,080 --> 02:16:46,879
Speaker 2: or at something Chicago. Okay, fair enough, Yeah, That's what

2483
02:16:46,879 --> 02:16:49,000
Speaker 2: I've got Tonight, seven thirty three game on the Family

2484
02:16:49,000 --> 02:16:52,200
Speaker 2: of Pat Boiling. Eddie White will take over probably around

2485
02:16:52,240 --> 02:16:56,120
Speaker 2: ten forty five with the world's greatest post game show

2486
02:16:56,400 --> 02:16:58,200
Speaker 2: on the show tomorrow. By the way, Steve Alfred going

2487
02:16:58,280 --> 02:17:00,400
Speaker 2: to join us about one o'clock. He is into going

2488
02:17:00,440 --> 02:17:03,680
Speaker 2: to be honored with athletes and action.

2489
02:17:03,800 --> 02:17:05,480
Speaker 1: Actually he's being honored, but I think he's going to

2490
02:17:05,560 --> 02:17:07,920
Speaker 1: join us one o'clock tomorrow. Also, I know Jason Gardner's

2491
02:17:07,959 --> 02:17:09,320
Speaker 1: doing the morning show. He's going to join us at

2492
02:17:09,360 --> 02:17:14,439
Speaker 1: two thirty in the afternoon as well to talk Arizona

2493
02:17:14,440 --> 02:17:16,640
Speaker 1: dipping on Jason Gardner this week? Are we what's that

2494
02:17:16,800 --> 02:17:19,040
Speaker 1: double dipping on Jason Gardner? It would appear so we

2495
02:17:19,160 --> 02:17:22,440
Speaker 1: probably some coordination around here. What the hell? I know?

2496
02:17:22,600 --> 02:17:26,080
Speaker 1: Right on coordinate j V is a right, by the way,

2497
02:17:26,280 --> 02:17:30,440
Speaker 1: a shirt about that? This is it too. It's a

2498
02:17:30,480 --> 02:17:33,039
Speaker 1: concert tee right here. Razors edge. What year was that?

2499
02:17:34,040 --> 02:17:37,880
Speaker 1: Early nineties? Razors edges that have Thunderstruck on it? If

2500
02:17:38,120 --> 02:17:39,600
Speaker 1: thunderstruck ninety or ninety one?

2501
02:17:39,680 --> 02:17:42,520
Speaker 8: Right, I thought Thunderstruck was like, yeah, ninety, I thought

2502
02:17:42,920 --> 02:17:43,600
Speaker 8: that's when that was.

2503
02:17:43,680 --> 02:17:47,680
Speaker 1: I think Thunderstruck is ninety. Yeah. Breaking back front and

2504
02:17:47,720 --> 02:17:52,320
Speaker 1: back means it's the real deal. Fair enough. What's what's

2505
02:17:52,320 --> 02:17:53,160
Speaker 1: on the Big Show today?

2506
02:17:53,480 --> 02:17:56,400
Speaker 8: We got Iron Eagle voice in the final four. Josh Shirtz,

2507
02:17:56,440 --> 02:17:59,120
Speaker 8: the head coach of Saint Louis, lost to Dusty Mayam

2508
02:17:59,160 --> 02:18:01,600
Speaker 8: Michigan in round number two.

2509
02:18:01,640 --> 02:18:03,480
Speaker 1: I believe it was yep, was it not?

2510
02:18:03,640 --> 02:18:05,920
Speaker 8: Somewhere along the lines there, But Josh is going to

2511
02:18:06,000 --> 02:18:08,080
Speaker 8: join us and Bowen I think is going to be

2512
02:18:08,080 --> 02:18:08,880
Speaker 8: in here as well.

2513
02:18:09,480 --> 02:18:12,360
Speaker 1: April Fool's Day, have you been had yet?

2514
02:18:12,879 --> 02:18:15,879
Speaker 8: I haven't even noticed it, So I just sent out

2515
02:18:15,920 --> 02:18:19,160
Speaker 8: something that said, you know, it's really about higher understanding

2516
02:18:19,280 --> 02:18:22,840
Speaker 8: and intelligence and not anything about just a bunch of

2517
02:18:22,920 --> 02:18:26,959
Speaker 8: dorks giggling and frollicking in the universe that is their

2518
02:18:27,040 --> 02:18:28,440
Speaker 8: own dorkdom right there.

2519
02:18:28,920 --> 02:18:31,480
Speaker 1: Nothing like that. April Fool's Day's awful.

2520
02:18:31,520 --> 02:18:34,080
Speaker 2: It's so stupid, Jake, have you got got on anything.

2521
02:18:34,959 --> 02:18:38,240
Speaker 1: Other than the wrong dates on the NCAA games for

2522
02:18:38,280 --> 02:18:40,680
Speaker 1: this weekend. No, I don't think so have a bunch

2523
02:18:40,720 --> 02:18:46,240
Speaker 1: of dorks. April Fool's Day's just built around dorks. Seriously,

2524
02:18:46,320 --> 02:18:48,200
Speaker 1: I thought yesterday it was kind of April four, and

2525
02:18:48,240 --> 02:18:51,800
Speaker 1: I don't mean this. I'm not trying to be funny here,

2526
02:18:52,320 --> 02:18:54,240
Speaker 1: So maybe a bad segue on that. But I didn't

2527
02:18:54,240 --> 02:18:57,120
Speaker 1: even get into it earlier. But I thought it was

2528
02:18:57,160 --> 02:18:59,879
Speaker 1: interesting that Tiger Woods would issue a statement saying that

2529
02:18:59,920 --> 02:19:03,520
Speaker 1: he is stepping aside to get help for what is

2530
02:19:03,560 --> 02:19:06,400
Speaker 1: ailing him, which I understand and respect that, but it's

2531
02:19:06,440 --> 02:19:07,640
Speaker 1: kind of hard to do that when on the other

2532
02:19:07,680 --> 02:19:11,160
Speaker 1: side claimed that you did nothing wrong, right, which is

2533
02:19:11,160 --> 02:19:14,480
Speaker 1: it you were fiddling with the radio or you need

2534
02:19:14,520 --> 02:19:15,360
Speaker 1: professional help.

2535
02:19:15,440 --> 02:19:18,160
Speaker 8: We're doing something about it. We're being proactive, Jake, is

2536
02:19:18,200 --> 02:19:21,440
Speaker 8: what we're doing. I guess it shows that we understand

2537
02:19:21,480 --> 02:19:24,040
Speaker 8: that there is an issue. There's not an overwhelming issue,

2538
02:19:24,040 --> 02:19:26,480
Speaker 8: but there's an issue there, and we're taking care of

2539
02:19:26,520 --> 02:19:26,960
Speaker 8: that issue.

2540
02:19:27,280 --> 02:19:29,720
Speaker 1: Eddie. What about you? Have you had any maybe I

2541
02:19:29,760 --> 02:19:32,840
Speaker 1: did to your knowledge? Doors in there ready? Oh yeah,

2542
02:19:32,879 --> 02:19:34,720
Speaker 1: you do have one in there with you. I realize that.

2543
02:19:34,800 --> 02:19:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, he's not in here right now.

2544
02:19:36,200 --> 02:19:38,160
Speaker 1: We're men, bun's in there with you. He's not in here.

2545
02:19:38,240 --> 02:19:41,920
Speaker 2: He's not no, no, he just popped out. I'm not

2546
02:19:41,959 --> 02:19:44,360
Speaker 2: outing anybody, but if you're listening, you know who you are.

2547
02:19:44,680 --> 02:19:47,000
Speaker 2: I did have two friends that got got by the

2548
02:19:47,000 --> 02:19:49,200
Speaker 2: same tweet. They sitting in our group chat within like

2549
02:19:49,240 --> 02:19:50,040
Speaker 2: a minute of each other.

2550
02:19:50,240 --> 02:19:52,680
Speaker 8: Hey, I get got by a tweet in September, So

2551
02:19:52,959 --> 02:19:55,959
Speaker 8: like April one doesn't mean a damn thing, right seriously, And.

2552
02:19:55,879 --> 02:19:58,360
Speaker 2: The tweet was saying that like White Loads Hotels has

2553
02:19:58,360 --> 02:20:01,360
Speaker 2: decided that Indianapolis would be its latest location in across

2554
02:20:01,360 --> 02:20:03,640
Speaker 2: from Lucas Oil Stadium. The plans include a first of

2555
02:20:03,680 --> 02:20:07,000
Speaker 2: a kind casino adjacent to the Indiana Convention Center.

2556
02:20:07,080 --> 02:20:09,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's an April fool's joke.

2557
02:20:09,640 --> 02:20:12,119
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, White Loa's Hotels isn't a real thing that the.

2558
02:20:12,040 --> 02:20:16,320
Speaker 1: TV show gotcha. I did know that that's a series

2559
02:20:16,400 --> 02:20:17,400
Speaker 1: right from a couple of years ago.

2560
02:20:17,879 --> 02:20:19,440
Speaker 2: It's on HBO Maxio Good Show.

2561
02:20:19,440 --> 02:20:23,080
Speaker 8: Actually listen, somebody sent out that I was I was

2562
02:20:23,120 --> 02:20:25,520
Speaker 8: nominated for the Adult Film Hall of Fame.

2563
02:20:26,480 --> 02:20:27,400
Speaker 1: I am going to roll with that.

2564
02:20:27,720 --> 02:20:31,480
Speaker 8: That's that's not an April fools I already forwarded that

2565
02:20:31,959 --> 02:20:33,600
Speaker 8: I'm going to be in the class with Amber and

2566
02:20:33,680 --> 02:20:34,320
Speaker 8: ginger Linn.

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Speaker 1: There you go, all right, John's up next. We will

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Speaker 1: be back with you at feel pretty good. This is

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Speaker 1: going to be a good three hours right here, Jake.

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Speaker 1: We may have some fun. I like it. Steve Alford

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Speaker 1: on the program tomorrow and we will. Hey, Jake, you

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Speaker 1: and I we all had our hair like Steve Alfer

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Speaker 1: back in the day. I have a picture of me

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Speaker 1: getting my getting his autographed sat you.

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Speaker 8: Will you be sure to tell him that I went

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Speaker 8: to Command Performance and the College ball in Bloomington and said,

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Speaker 8: give me the Alford. I wanted butt cut part down,

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Speaker 8: the metal feathered on the side, so I didn't put

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Speaker 8: it toll on my back. Exactly what it was.

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Speaker 1: Debbie said, I got you. Everybody also did socks hips

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Speaker 1: one two three Swiss Right.

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Speaker 2: By the way, there's been some messages coming through on

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Speaker 2: the text line and I've seen some on the fan

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Speaker 2: on Facebook. Uh, the location of the golf heading has

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Speaker 2: not been changed. I don't know what that notification is

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Speaker 2: about on Facebook gets at the Legend's golf course on

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Speaker 2: April thirtieth, Well.

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Speaker 1: Who thought it was different? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: There's a notification that was sent out to some people

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Speaker 2: same person to put Jason Gardner on back to back

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Speaker 2: shows tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: That person Ton's up next. Thanks for listening to a

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Speaker 1: Quarium Company.