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Speaker 2: The President called all the leaders of these tech companies

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Speaker 2: he chartered me immediately, the United States must lead an AI.

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Speaker 2: We can't have the energy subtraction policies of the Biden

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Speaker 2: ruinous price rises the Biden administration did. But those two

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Speaker 2: things can be and are being achieved, and so these

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Speaker 2: We've been working with these companies since the start of

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Speaker 2: the administration. In fact, Laura, I've got to point out, Indiana,

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Speaker 2: filed for a rate reduction request to their Committee on Electricity,

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Speaker 2: and many other states have had multi year freezes.

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Speaker 2: And these are made possible by the US government in

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Speaker 2: partnership with these large data center.

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Speaker 3: Developers, to bring this AI.

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Speaker 2: Bring these investments, but bring with it no price increase

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Speaker 2: to Americas. Ultimately priced decreases for Americas.

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Speaker 1: Show me, my energy bill is steadily climbing, it keeps rising.

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Speaker 1: In fact, the AEES bill is sitting on the kitchen

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, you know the fact that Energy Secretary

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Speaker 3: of weeks ago. Donald Trump is doing these handshake deals

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But the problem here is Indiana is being highlighted

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Speaker 1: And this is almost like Indiana's trying to do two

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking at a map right now, or a chart,

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Speaker 1: So there are one analysis said that there are some

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Speaker 1: So you've got the IURC who announced that public investigation

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no teeth here, there's nothing of action. It's

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Speaker 1: The stockholders. So you've got Donald Trump, he's hosting that

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Speaker 3: And here's what I think is going to happen on this.

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Speaker 1: So you've got a meta spokesperson. This is via WTCHR

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Speaker 1: Okay, speaking of energy, let's talk about the other energy costs.

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Speaker 3: Three twenty seven. And this is going to continue to

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Speaker 1: You've got members of the House Oversite Committee pushing for

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Speaker 5: Carson, where do we stand on the investigation into ilhan Omar?

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of misinformation that you'll see online about this.

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Speaker 3: For starters, Yes, of course, Congress is the only entity

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Speaker 3: that can officially declare war, but the United States hasn't

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Speaker 3: declared any war on anybody since World War II. There

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Speaker 3: is the War Powers Act that you here mentioned again

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Speaker 3: and again and again, and by the way, just about

443
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Speaker 3: every president has invoked the War Powers Act since it

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Speaker 3: came around in nineteen seventy three. And what it says

445
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Speaker 3: is that the president can take military action without authorization

446
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Speaker 3: from Congress in a limited Oh and by the way,

447
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Speaker 3: when you take military action, you have to inform Congress

448
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Speaker 3: within forty eight hours after doing that, and you've got

449
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Speaker 3: this time frame. It's sixty days, and you can get

450
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Speaker 3: another thirty day extension onto that, so essentially ninety days

451
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Speaker 3: that you can take this military action without having to

452
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Speaker 3: go to Congress and ask for authorization. So Trump has

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Speaker 3: got ninety days here where he can pretty much do

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Speaker 3: anything he wants. But because we've still got a Republican

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Speaker 3: House and a Republican Senate. Even if this goes over

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Speaker 3: the ninety day period, I think it's going to be

457
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Speaker 3: highly unlikely that anything will happen from a Congressional standpoint

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Speaker 3: that would keep Trump from being able to conduct military

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Speaker 3: operations in Iran.

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Speaker 1: So what you've got here is this War Powers Act.

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Speaker 1: It almost seems like political theater. Now it exists, so

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Speaker 1: Congress can say it has the authority.

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Speaker 2: Of a war.

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Speaker 1: But when the moment does arrive, presidents launched the military action,

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Speaker 1: Congress debates it and then doesn't actually off anything.

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Speaker 3: Well, Congress could have stopped it this week. I mean,

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Speaker 3: if they wanted to vote on this this week, they

468
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Speaker 3: probably could have stopped it and at least give themselves

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Speaker 3: a pretty good leg up if it ended up going

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Speaker 3: to the judicial route. But the fact of the matter

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Speaker 3: is it didn't because we've got tons of Republicans in here. Look,

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Speaker 3: if this was a massively unpopular military excursion, so much

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Speaker 3: so that Republicans were against it as well, well, then

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Speaker 3: Congress would have passed that War Powers Act and maybe

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Speaker 3: limited what Trump could do militarily. But they didn't do that.

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Speaker 3: And again, so Trump's got ninety days to figure this out.

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Speaker 3: If he can't figure it all out in ninety days,

478
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Speaker 3: he is going to have to go back to Congress.

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Speaker 3: But again, because it's Republican House, and Republicans said it,

480
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Speaker 3: it's likely likely, you know, as long as things keep

481
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Speaker 3: going the way they're going, that you're going to see

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Speaker 3: Congress authorize continued, continued military action.

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Speaker 1: So you've got Speaker Johnson, and after the House blocked it,

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Speaker 1: he said, you know what, we're not at war.

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Speaker 6: Well, we just had an important series of votes on

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Speaker 6: the House floor, as you know, the Warpower's resolution failed.

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Speaker 3: That is the right result.

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Speaker 6: We are not at war. We have no intention of

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Speaker 6: being at war. The President and the Department of Defense

490
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Speaker 6: has made this very clear. The Apartment of War has

491
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Speaker 6: made it very clear. This is a limited operation. It's

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Speaker 6: an operation. It's limited in its scope and duration. It

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Speaker 6: has a very clear mission, and that mission is nearly

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Speaker 6: accomplished by all estimates. We are taking down Iran's ballistic

495
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Speaker 6: missile capability. It's it's stockpile and its ability to produce more.

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Speaker 6: They were doing that at a at a scale and

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Speaker 6: a speed that was more than our regional allies could

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Speaker 6: keep up with and it was a serious and eminent

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Speaker 6: threat to the United States. We don't need to really

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Speaker 6: relitigate all that today. But also we wanted to take

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Speaker 6: down the capability of their navy, and all of that

502
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Speaker 6: has been very successful. So this needs to continue. It

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Speaker 6: would have been a very dangerous gambit to take the

504
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Speaker 6: Commander in chief's ability it away to complete this mission.

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Speaker 6: It would have been a very serious misstep by Congress.

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Speaker 6: And I'm grateful that that resolution failed.

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Speaker 1: So he said, we're not at war. However, today Donald

508
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Speaker 1: Trump said that there was there's gonna be no deal

509
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Speaker 1: with Iran unless it surrenders unconditionally. That sounds like war

510
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Speaker 1: speak to me. He meant that Iran must give up

511
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Speaker 1: completely before negotiations begin. He posted to social media and

512
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Speaker 1: he said that the US would help rebuild Iran's economy

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Speaker 1: after such a surrender and the installation of new leadership,

514
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Speaker 1: and he also said that the US should help choose

515
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Speaker 1: Iran's next leader.

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Speaker 3: What Donald Trump is looking for here is pretty much

517
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Speaker 3: a repeat of what we did in Venezuela. And so

518
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Speaker 3: the recap Venezuela, we went in, we took Maduro. He's

519
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Speaker 3: sitting in a jail cell in New York. We took

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Speaker 3: their vice president Dulci and said to her, Okay, you're

521
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Speaker 3: going to run this country. And by the way, we've

522
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Speaker 3: got our warships still sitting off your coast. So it's

523
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Speaker 3: essentially a gun to her head situation, and so far

524
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Speaker 3: it looks like has worked. In fact, she came out

525
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Speaker 3: yesterday and had all this praise for Donald Trump looking

526
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Speaker 3: to replicate that exactly with Iran. Pick some leadership that's

527
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Speaker 3: going to do exactly what we want, especially when it

528
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Speaker 3: comes to outside their borders. I think Donald Trump is

529
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Speaker 3: in a position where he's like, hey, you know what,

530
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Speaker 3: as long as you're not killing your civilians just for protesting,

531
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Speaker 3: you can run your country pretty much however you want

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Speaker 3: it to. Of course, we want the US and our

533
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Speaker 3: US backed companies to be able to access your rare

534
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Speaker 3: earth minerals and your oil and make money for both

535
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Speaker 3: you and for US. But you can run inside your

536
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Speaker 3: country however you want. But when it comes to outside

537
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Speaker 3: of your borders, that's where we're really going to clamp down.

538
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Speaker 3: The big question here is is Donald Trump going to

539
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Speaker 3: be able to find somebody that can do two things

540
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Speaker 3: that can make Donald Trump happy? But then can also

541
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Speaker 3: make the citizens of Iran happy and compliant to what

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Speaker 3: they want to do.

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Speaker 1: He said that the regime leaders in Iran are calling

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Speaker 1: him and begging for a deal.

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Speaker 7: As soon as they said off MISSI, within four minutes,

546
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Speaker 7: the luncher gets hit. They don't know what's happening. We

547
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Speaker 7: have the greatest terry anywhere in the world. Their navy

548
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Speaker 7: is gone, twenty four ships in three days. That's a

549
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Speaker 7: lot of ships. They're anti aircraft weapons are gone, so

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Speaker 7: they have no air force, they have no air defense.

551
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Speaker 7: All of their airplanes are gone, their communications are gone,

552
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Speaker 7: missiles are gone, launches are gone, about sixty and sixty

553
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Speaker 7: four respectively. Other than that, they're doing quite well.

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Speaker 3: I said, what's left.

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Speaker 7: But they're tough and they want to fight, and they're calling.

556
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Speaker 7: They're saying, how do we make a deal? I said,

557
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Speaker 7: you're being a little bit late, and we want to

558
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Speaker 7: fight now more than they do. We've had forty seven years,

559
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Speaker 7: depending on the way you count it, but forty seven

560
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Speaker 7: years of horror with this group.

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Speaker 1: War isn't, by the way, even well planned. Once and

562
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Speaker 1: you could argue whether this was well planned or not,

563
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Speaker 1: but the US military campaign and Iran already very expensive.

564
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Speaker 1: Is being reported that it just in these first initial days,

565
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Speaker 1: we're already at a cost of over three point seven

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Speaker 1: billion dollars roughly eight hundred and ninety million dollars per day.

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Speaker 1: Most of this is spent on munitions and operational cost.

568
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Speaker 1: Part of the early costs not currently in the Pentagon's budget,

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Speaker 1: meaning Congress is going to have to approve additional funding

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Speaker 1: for this, and analysts estimate that this could get up

571
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Speaker 1: between forty billion and sixty five billion dollars if this

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Speaker 1: conflict continues.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, we're really great at breaking stuff. Our military

574
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Speaker 3: is spectacular. I don't think anybody doubts that our military

575
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Speaker 3: can go anywhere and break the hell out of any

576
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Speaker 3: place that we want to. We prove that in Venezuela,

577
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Speaker 3: and so far two months in Venezuela things have been

578
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Speaker 3: going good. The problem we have is fixing stuffed after

579
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Speaker 3: we break it or being involved in that. And we

580
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Speaker 3: saw the disaster that that was in two thousand and

581
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Speaker 3: three in Iraq, although I think Donald Trump from a

582
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Speaker 3: large perspective, has no interest in fixing it, or at least, hey,

583
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Speaker 3: if you want to fix it, and it's easy for

584
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Speaker 3: us to fix it and there's something in it for us. Great,

585
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Speaker 3: But I think he's going in there to break around

586
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Speaker 3: and then eventually you guys figure out how to put

587
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Speaker 3: it back together. I wanted to stop you from messing

588
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Speaker 3: with all your neighbors, especially Israel, and I did that

589
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Speaker 3: because I broke all your war machines. And now here

590
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Speaker 3: you go, here's your country back. I know I broke it.

591
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Speaker 3: You better figure out how to put it back together.

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Speaker 1: Here's your broken toy you mentioned two thousand and three,

593
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Speaker 1: and here's Donald Rumsfeld. We go down memory lane and

594
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Speaker 1: he's talking about how long that war could have lasted.

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Speaker 8: It is not knowable if force will be used. But

596
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Speaker 8: if it is to be used, it is not knowable

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Speaker 8: how long that conflict would last. It could last, you know,

598
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Speaker 8: six days, six weeks. I doubt six months.

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Speaker 3: B Eee missed it by about six years on that one.

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Speaker 1: Don't go on the record and say when you think

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Speaker 1: it's going to be done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh gosh, I have a man Donald Rumsfeld at

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Speaker 3: the time. I mean his press conferences that he had

604
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Speaker 3: every day. It reminds me what was the most famous

605
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Speaker 3: Donald Rumsfeld.

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Speaker 1: There's you know, the things you don't right there? There

607
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Speaker 1: are you don't know.

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Speaker 3: There are no knowns, there are unknown knowns, and then

609
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Speaker 3: there are unknown unknowns. He was He was a I

610
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Speaker 3: don't want to call it necessarily word salad, but sometimes

611
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Speaker 3: I felt like I needed a dictionary or a phonics

612
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Speaker 3: book to follow Donald Rumsfeld when he suck. The other

613
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Speaker 3: thing that I love that Donald Rumsfeld said, and one

614
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Speaker 3: of the famous lines that he had is you don't

615
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Speaker 3: go to war with the army you want. You go

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Speaker 3: to war with the army.

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Speaker 1: You got yep. Well, in regards to costs, obviously, the

618
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Speaker 1: longer this last or the longer the bigger it expands,

619
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Speaker 1: the more it's going to cost, and estimates of how

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Speaker 1: much it will cost will just climb higher, not only abroad,

621
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Speaker 1: but the US economic impact, trade, energy prices, inflation. The

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Speaker 1: analysts are saying that that could push it up to

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Speaker 1: two hundred ten billion dollars or more, not just military spending,

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Speaker 1: but the broader economic effects.

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Speaker 3: And I think here's where Donald Trump is going to

626
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Speaker 3: have the problem as it relates to dollars, because we

627
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Speaker 3: hear these numbers all the time in the federal government. Oh,

628
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Speaker 3: this is going to cost you know, one hundred billion

629
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Speaker 3: dollars if this cost a trillion dollars and we're thirty

630
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Speaker 3: eight trillion dollars in debt, and eventually those numbers just

631
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 3: mean nothing to the American public because we're like, oh guys,

632
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Speaker 3: this is no h that's a level you can't even compromise, right,

633
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Speaker 3: I can't even understand that we're already thirty three you know,

634
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Speaker 3: thirty eight trillion dollars in debt. What's another fifty billion

635
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 3: on a war in Iraq? Big deal. Where the problem

636
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: comes down to is how it affects average everyday Americans.

637
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Speaker 3: And we just talked about earlier on the show. Gas

638
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Speaker 3: prices have gone through the roof, and by the way,

639
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Speaker 3: oil is up twenty five percent in the last week.

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Speaker 3: And that's not just gas prices. Almost everything that we

641
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Speaker 3: make and produce these days has some sort of petroleum

642
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Speaker 3: or petroleum byproducts as part of it. So that when

643
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Speaker 3: those when those costs end up hitting the American tax

644
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Speaker 3: That's where Donald Trump is going to have a real

645
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Speaker 3: hard time dealing with it. Not so much the fifty

646
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Speaker 3: billion or one hundred billion or whatever this war is

647
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Speaker 3: going to cost.

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Speaker 1: No, it's how does it affect me?

649
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Speaker 3: How does it affect me? How does it affect me

650
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Speaker 3: when I go to the gas pump. How does it

651
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Speaker 3: affect me when I go to the grocery store. How

652
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Speaker 3: does it affect me when I go to buy this

653
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Speaker 3: thing that is so impact tangible? It is and it

654
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Speaker 3: makes sense right exactly. If all of a sudden, I'm

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Speaker 3: having to pay an extra ten bucks to fill up

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Speaker 3: my gas tank, that impacts me. If all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: my grocery prices go up, or I want to buy

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Speaker 3: this item and the price has gone up because it's

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Speaker 3: made with petroleum products, or because we've instituted a new

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Speaker 3: tariff somewhere, or there are supply chain issues because they

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Speaker 3: shut down the straight of horror moves that is impactful

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Speaker 3: on the average American taxpayer. And that's when you'll start

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Speaker 3: to see people being like, I can't take this no more.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Casey and Jim. It is ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. It is time for the best audio

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Speaker 1: of the day. All week long, we've been having the online.

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Speaker 3: Burger Wars, which is it's been so fascinating McDonald's CEO.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this started out is kind of contained within

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Speaker 3: the social media world, but now it's exploded everywhere in

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Speaker 3: mainstream and I think I was watching Good Morning America

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Speaker 3: on the TV this morning and they were featuring the

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Speaker 3: McDonald's CEO and his disastrous social media video that he

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Speaker 3: put out.

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Speaker 1: It went from McDonald's to Burger King. You had the

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Speaker 1: A and W CEO get on board. You had did

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Speaker 1: Wendy's do one? Yeah, Wendy's.

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Speaker 3: Wendy's did one? Yet ransty subscription services like butcher Block,

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Speaker 3: they did one. We talked about that yesterday.

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Speaker 1: But now you've got the CEO of Taco Bell entering

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Speaker 1: the chat. Spoiler, this isn't the real CEO.

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Speaker 5: Hey, how we doing. I'm Luke Barnett. I am the

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Speaker 5: interim CEO of Taco Bell. We just thought we'd joined

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Speaker 5: this fun little challenge with you guys, so I'm going

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Speaker 5: to take you along. This is what I'm meeting for

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Speaker 5: lunch today. See what we packed. This is what I

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Speaker 5: eat pretty much every day. I am the CEO Taco Bell. Oh,

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Speaker 5: this is one of our legacy products. This is a

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Speaker 5: soft taco. It's got a little bit of cheese and

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Speaker 5: let us sprinkled in. It's good, good for you and

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Speaker 5: the meat. While it does come from a meat gun.

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Speaker 5: It is the highest quality meat that we could get

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Speaker 5: at the price point meat gun.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, at the price point.

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Speaker 5: I am just going to take a bite out of

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Speaker 5: this taco.

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Speaker 3: It's acceptable taco Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Sure.

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Speaker 1: He sounds so convincing. He just said you could tell

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Speaker 1: that this is just some dude with his phone. He's

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Speaker 1: really eating that Taco Bell for his lunch.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 3: At the beginning it started out, I was kind of

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Speaker 3: buying it. I was like, Oh, this could really be

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Speaker 3: the CEO of Taco Bell. He sounded like an intelligent

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Speaker 3: guy and was speaking normally, as opposed to the fake

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Speaker 3: White Castle CEO that we played to open the show

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Speaker 3: and it was like, hey, I haven't been earned. I'm

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Speaker 3: the CEO White Castle and we got the White Castle suitcase.

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Speaker 1: No, that was not the CEO of talk about It

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Speaker 1: was actually a comedian who is just having fun. And

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Speaker 1: the trend everybody's doing it now. I've seen more just

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Speaker 1: you know, everyday guys sitting in McDonald's or whatever fast

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Speaker 1: food joint they're in and they're like, Okay, I'm the

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Speaker 1: CEO of whatever, and they're taking a bite out of

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Speaker 1: the burger.

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Speaker 3: This has been the best marketing for all fast food restaurant.

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Speaker 3: They could not even if they could have spent one

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Speaker 3: hundred million dollars and planned this out for weeks and months,

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Speaker 3: and they couldn't have come up with something this good

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Speaker 3: because it was organic and genuine and just viral. That

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Speaker 3: have spent up because fast food restaurants have really been

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Speaker 3: struggling in the last five or six years, because we

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Speaker 3: think of them, especially places like McDonald and cheap. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you go there because it's fast and it's cheap. I

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Speaker 3: can go through the drive through in a couple of

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Speaker 3: minutes and for a few bucks, I can get a burger. Well,

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Speaker 3: with inflation, and we've seen all the stories of you know,

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Speaker 3: eighteen dollar big Mac meals and how prices have exploded everywhere. Well,

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Speaker 3: people aren't going to fast food nearly as much anymore,

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Speaker 3: and those franchises have been closing. Burger King closed a

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Speaker 3: ton of restaurants, Pizza Hut closed, a Bunch Subway has closed,

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Speaker 3: you know, over a couple of hundreds. Papa John's announced.

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Speaker 3: All the fast food restaurants have really been struggling and

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Speaker 3: they could use and again this is purely from a

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Speaker 3: marketing perspective, they could really use this sort of exposure

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Speaker 3: when everybody is talking about their food and not how

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Speaker 3: much it costs. Because for years now, everything that everybody's

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Speaker 3: talking about fast food is man, it's so expensive. And

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Speaker 3: here you've got this viral sensation that's taken off and

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Speaker 3: the focuses on their burgers and their tacos.

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Speaker 1: So you've got the Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F.

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Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior. He's working controversy. Maybe it's time that dunkin

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Speaker 1: Donuts does their own this is what I'm having for

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Speaker 1: lunch video. He is asking them to release safety data

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Speaker 1: for their high sugar beverages.

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Speaker 3: Show us the safety data.

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Speaker 7: Does that show that it's okay to for a teenage

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Speaker 7: girl and drink an iced coffee with one hundred and

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Speaker 7: fifteen grams of sugar in it?

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Speaker 1: So he made that announcement at an Eat Real Food

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Speaker 1: rally which took place in Austin, Texas. He was promoting

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Speaker 1: his Make America Healthy Again initiative, which is of course

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Speaker 1: they brought or push on food and ingredients safety. And

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Speaker 1: he's saying, you know what, there's just too many calories

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Speaker 1: in these sugary beverages. Why are you even offering this?

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Speaker 3: And I think here's the difference because a lot of

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Speaker 3: people I've heard said, hey, you know what, the government

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Speaker 3: shouldn't be telling me what to eat and drinking, and

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Speaker 3: that's not what's happening here. And I think there's a

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Speaker 3: big difference. You've had stories from these big Democrat states

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Speaker 3: and cities where they say, oh, you can only buy

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Speaker 3: twenty ounces of soda, you can't have the double big

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Speaker 3: gulp at seven to eleven anymore. We're going to restrict

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Speaker 3: how much you can do. That's different. What Robert F.

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Speaker 3: Kennedy Junior is talking about here is just transparency. He's

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Speaker 3: talking about just releasing information and getting it out there

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Speaker 3: so that people can make their own informed decisions. That's

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Speaker 3: a nice, rock solid conservative position. Unlike places like New

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Speaker 3: York City, where I can only buy a twenty ounce

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Speaker 3: coke no matter how much I want, they are restricting

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Speaker 3: my freedom to buy more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people are saying, you know what,

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Speaker 1: we don't need your finger wagging, especially coming from Washington.

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Speaker 1: We're free to choose what we want to drink, and

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Speaker 1: adults and parents should be capable of deciding for themselves

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Speaker 1: and their children what they're going to put in their body.

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Speaker 1: But you're right. This is more about public education than

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Speaker 1: it is regulation. He's just saying, Hey, you know what,

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Speaker 1: You've got a lot of sugar in these beverages, and

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Speaker 1: we know sugar consumption is a concern. How about you

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Speaker 1: focus on clear labeling and consumer education rather than implying

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Speaker 1: that the government must police every popular drink. So what

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Speaker 1: level of adulting are you at? Let's give you a

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Speaker 1: couple of options.

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Speaker 3: Okay, hit me, what do you got?

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Speaker 1: Number one, watching everything in subtitles.

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Speaker 3: I'm not there yet, but I do enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: Number two, being excited about going to bed absolutely, Yes,

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Speaker 1: the three unnecessary noise noise? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Iring someone else?

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Speaker 1: For example, are you at the level of adulting where

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Speaker 1: you feel the benefits of water while you're drinking it,

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Speaker 1: you turn down the music so that you can see

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Speaker 1: better while you're driving?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: And do you get excited when you buy something new

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Speaker 1: for your own place?

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Speaker 3: Of course, I'm an adult. It's official.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Casey and Jim on ninety three WYBC.

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Speaker 7: Give me some