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Speaker 1: When we were just joined by Nikki Kelly from Indiana

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Speaker 1: Capitol Chronicle. She mentioned something about data centers and if

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Speaker 1: data centers are driving up our power bills, that clearly

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Speaker 1: needs fixing. But this is the big butt. Shutting everything

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Speaker 1: down also seems like overkill. And now you've got AOC

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Speaker 1: along with Bernie Sanders, and they just introduced a bill

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Speaker 1: targeting AI data centers and the main idea is to

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Speaker 1: pause or put a moratorium on building any new AI

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Speaker 1: data centers across the country. Why do they want to

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Speaker 1: do this, Well, because data centers use huge amounts of

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Speaker 1: electricity and they're rising everyone's electricity bills. It's got a

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Speaker 1: huge environmental impact as well. And also they're mentioning AI's

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Speaker 1: broader effects on jobs and society. So AOC was recently

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Speaker 1: asked about this and she gave her thoughts on AI.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I don't think those efforts are working

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Speaker 2: on behalf of the administration. As far as AI, I

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Speaker 2: do not regularly integrate it into my daily life, but

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Speaker 2: I know many people do. I think our job tends

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Speaker 2: to be a little bit more For me. My job,

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Speaker 2: A lot of my job is quite writing based, and

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Speaker 2: I like to do my own.

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Speaker 1: So she says that she's old fashioned, and many lawmakers

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Speaker 1: who don't use AI, aren't they unqualified to talk about AI? Then,

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Speaker 1: I mean, she's just saying I don't use it in

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Speaker 1: my daily life, but yet she's introducing bills that affect it.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like she's virtue signaling. Wouldn't that be something? Huh?

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Speaker 3: A Democrat and a liberal virtue signaling? That sounds what?

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Speaker 3: It sounds like. I don't really use this. I don't

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Speaker 3: know a lot about it other than I hate it.

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Speaker 1: So she's not using it, what is her impression of it?

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Speaker 1: It would be inaccurate. But there's also the side of

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Speaker 1: me that says I don't believe her because she streams

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Speaker 1: on Twitch, she's talked about building her own PC, she

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Speaker 1: references gaming culture all the time, and you're telling me

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Speaker 1: that she doesn't dabble in AI.

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Speaker 3: Ever, Yeah, AOC is full of it. I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: easily easy conclusion to come to. You know, I find

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Speaker 3: it interesting that Bernie Sanders is out there also pushing

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Speaker 3: this legislation to band AI data centers. And look, it's

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Speaker 3: not the and this may be controversial, but it's not

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Speaker 3: the AI data centers themselves that are the problem and

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Speaker 3: that so many people in this country have a problem with.

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Speaker 3: It is the massive power consumption they use, causing electric

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Speaker 3: rates to go up for everybody. It's the tax break

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Speaker 3: so many of these states and local entities are giving

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Speaker 3: to these data centers, and it's the farmland and open

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Speaker 3: space that are being used up. So I think to

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Speaker 3: kind of throw the baby out with the bathwater and

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Speaker 3: say up, no more data centers. Look, somebody wants to

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Speaker 3: build a data center where they're not going to push

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Speaker 3: up electricity rates, where they're not going to drain the

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Speaker 3: water from the community, where there's not a ton of

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Speaker 3: tax breaks going on, and where the local community is like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're okay with this field being used for a data center,

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Speaker 3: then there's nothing wrong with AI data centers. It's one

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Speaker 3: of those trigger words where people hear it and they

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Speaker 3: ultimately go, oh, no, no, that's that, But we got

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Speaker 3: to stop it. No, it's the things that the data

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Speaker 3: center builders are asking from local communities and governments that

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Speaker 3: are the problem. Somebody comes to us and wants to

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Speaker 3: check all those boxes. No tax breaks, no, you know,

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Speaker 3: extra energy consumption. They're going to bring their own energy

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Speaker 3: with them. Then data centers aren't really a problem at

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Speaker 3: that point.

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Speaker 1: It is reshaping every industry, classrooms even and the workplace

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Speaker 1: across the country. But if you've got members of Congress

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Speaker 1: who are going to vote on AI regulation, maybe they

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Speaker 1: should try it first and not say don't I don't

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Speaker 1: use it, But yet here's a bill to ban it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and what's frustrating about this? And this is something

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Speaker 3: You've got to keep this in mind. We're not the

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Speaker 3: only country trying to develop AI. Iran is trying to

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Speaker 3: develop AI, or they would but were before we started

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Speaker 3: the war. China is developing AI, Russia is developing AI.

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Speaker 3: All of our enemies are also in this AI races

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Speaker 3: as well. And do you think that they're limiting and

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Speaker 3: restricting and regulating their development of AI. Absolutely not. Let's

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Speaker 3: be also clear about this. President Trump and his administration

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Speaker 3: has said the military has been using AI a lot

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Speaker 3: with this war in Iran. This is a big deal

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Speaker 3: and my fear is that if we start over regulating

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Speaker 3: it here, our enemies are going to pass us by.

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Speaker 1: So supporters of her bill say that it protects workers, consumers,

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Speaker 1: and communities, and it prevents big tech from passing costs

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Speaker 1: onto the public. Critics say it's going to slow down

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Speaker 1: innovation and hurt the United States in the AI race.

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Speaker 1: Like you just mentioned, it would give an advantage to

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Speaker 1: other countries like China. Here's the reality check. This bill

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Speaker 1: is unlikely to pass right, but it does show growing

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Speaker 1: concern about AI infrastructure. I mean, we're talking about an

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Speaker 1: AI bill. Heck, they can't even get TSA workers paid

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Speaker 1: at this point