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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five.

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Speaker 2: The fad.

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Speaker 1: A year's waiting is about to come to an end,

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Speaker 1: But two and a half miles back, Indianapolis is about sweet.

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Speaker 1: The quickest driver the ultimate last. No race is faster,

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Speaker 1: no race is closer. Are more difficult, but Hindy is

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Speaker 1: much more. The five hundred mile race is a celebration,

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Speaker 1: a spectacle, the largest single gathering of people for a

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis is dangerous.

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Speaker 1: It's narrow road and concrete walls, tear and man and machine.

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Speaker 1: A skillful drive can turn to this or without warning.

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Speaker 1: But the quickest time for bound just inches from the walls.

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Speaker 1: It is there, the old but drive searching for the

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Speaker 3: There's not been a rased that have not been in

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Speaker 1: I know you've got a bunch of grave heroes out

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Speaker 1: they've never run fast enough, or they've never been hurt.

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Speaker 1: To rhyme in the requires skill to race with the front,

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Speaker 1: dedication to win, courage. A champion must push beyond fear.

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Speaker 1: The four corners that Indianapolis draw out a special significance.

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Speaker 4: You know there tons of time in a race where

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Speaker 2: Tells all.

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Speaker 1: This past month that the Indianapolis has talents the elite,

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Speaker 1: even the best, like four time champion Rick Mears, came

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Speaker 2: Rick would walk away.

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Speaker 1: Three time world champion Nelson McKay barely escaped.

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Speaker 2: But running on and over the edge is the only.

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Speaker 1: Way to succeed, the only path to victory in the

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Speaker 3: Displace more than any other. You will probably push it

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Speaker 1: And there comes a time when you just say, man,

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Speaker 2: Thirty three of the fastest have accessed to talent and.

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Speaker 1: Are ready for racing's ultimate test five hundred miles on

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Speaker 1: a Sunday afternoon in Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Where will the road take them? Who close to the

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Speaker 2: Indy is a.

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Speaker 1: Human struggle against all odds. It rings and well.

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Speaker 2: At the same time incomparable reward.

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Speaker 1: And if eighty one year has three five hundred and

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Speaker 2: Whose likeness will be bolded at silver to join the

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Speaker 1: A five hundred mile by ahead seems appropriate.

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Speaker 3: Tonight's after the passing of Chuck Norris last week that

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Speaker 3: we opened with Delta Force, and I just checked the calendar.

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Speaker 3: We are two months away from the one hundred and

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Speaker 3: and it feels a little bit, or at least it

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Speaker 3: looks like race day. Weather looks like it this afternoon,

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Speaker 3: You never know in Indiana. Thanks for joining us. Track

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Speaker 3: Indiana Weather. And I'm going to start with a public

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Speaker 5: Right, it turned out to be a pretty good finish

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Speaker 5: it's been a long time since we had an IndyCar race.

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Speaker 5: Yeah four, I'm sorry, four and five weeks and I

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Speaker 5: I continue to see a significant amount of IndyCar promos

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Speaker 5: a wall that needs to get moved I didn't. I

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Speaker 5: didn't send any of that at this time.

439
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Speaker 3: And by the way, that can happen in a multi

440
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 3: multimillion dollar a millionaire sport too. It happens in Formula one,

441
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 3: so it just happens in street races, but Formula one

442
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 3: is an example. So that's what's available to IndyCar right now,

443
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 3: is the popularity from Drive to Survive and Formula One

444
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 3: can benefit IndyCar, and I think it is right now.

445
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 3: I think Will Buxton do IndyCar races since the beginning

446
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 3: of last year has brought some people over. You don't

447
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 3: know how many people where I'm with will come up

448
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 3: to him and say they've started watching IndyCar because he's

449
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 3: doing it now. And they aren't necessarily Formula one fans.

450
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 3: They are Drive to Survive fans, and that's how they

451
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 3: consume that sport. They don't even watch the races, but

452
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 3: they know Drive to Survive and they've seen on his

453
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Speaker 3: social media that he is in IndyCar races. What was

454
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 3: a little bit sad is that a woman came up

455
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Speaker 3: in the hotel, didn't know there was an IndyCar race there,

456
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Speaker 3: but still recognized him in Dallas, and we were able

457
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Speaker 3: to educate her a little bit on there something where

458
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 3: there's overtaking and they don't run out of battery at

459
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Speaker 3: the end of the straightaway and slow down and then

460
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: get passed and repassed. But back to the presentation. So

461
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 3: those people have been drawn in by the glitz, the

462
00:25:54,760 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 3: glamor the drama, the beef. But they definitely liked glitz

463
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 3: and the glamour, but then they get maybe a little

464
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Speaker 3: bit bored with the actual product, with the actual race.

465
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Speaker 3: And if we get them over and especially if we

466
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Speaker 3: get them to come to an event, if they've been

467
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Speaker 3: to a Formula one event, they're gonna want to see

468
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Speaker 3: some bells and whistles, So that becomes a little bit

469
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Speaker 3: more important of just looking like a big time presentation.

470
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Speaker 3: And I think that's where we're headed and that's the

471
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Speaker 3: goal for every event.

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Speaker 5: Now, can you imagine, And we're getting ahead of ourselves

473
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Speaker 5: a little bit. But if if indeed the ratings and

474
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Speaker 5: they are I shouldn't say if indeed, if they're up

475
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Speaker 5: forty eight percent for the first three races, if you

476
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Speaker 5: extrapolate that to the ndy five hundred, when people get

477
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Speaker 5: to see what the sport does on that oval with

478
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Speaker 5: that history, with that drama that isn't created in a

479
00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 5: drive to survive narrative. This is real on track. You

480
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 5: could have a very big number for the Indie five hundred.

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Speaker 3: I don't even want to guess what that is. I'll

482
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 3: see right now. I have no idea what our bosses think,

483
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Speaker 3: but I would be ecstatic if they matched last year.

484
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Speaker 3: If they did seven million again, I would be ecstatic.

485
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Speaker 3: And I think if it was as long as it's

486
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Speaker 3: over five and a half million, still up from what

487
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 3: you were each of the last many many years, I

488
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 3: think logic could say that's still very positive. So I

489
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 3: don't even want to dream about, you know, for the

490
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Speaker 3: business of the sport, because that's what this sport is.

491
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 3: It's more business backed than any other sport. And you know,

492
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 3: I used to think it was just people like us

493
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Speaker 3: that cared about it, but it's very clear that the

494
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 3: fans are interested kind of a pride point too. They

495
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 3: want the thing that they care most about to be

496
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Speaker 3: successful as well. So good stuff there. Stephen Tarrell asks,

497
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Speaker 3: or says, Nolan Siegel was told he needed to finish

498
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Speaker 3: in the top ten to keep his seat at McLaren.

499
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Speaker 3: He's now running twenty fourth of twenty fifth. What are

500
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Speaker 3: the chances he will be replaced by mid season? Lena

501
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 3: s Lunquiz is available, maybe Tao Pra share.

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Speaker 5: I don't think he'll be my gut, I don't and

503
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Speaker 5: I don't have anything to back this up. I don't

504
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 5: think they replaced him mid season, maybe late season if

505
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 5: that's where it's at.

506
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Speaker 2: But I think his funding, I think the commitment they've made.

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Speaker 5: Honestly, I think there might be a little backlash to

508
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 5: what happened previously with other moving around with drivers. I

509
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 5: think it didn't Now any driver would would consider that

510
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 5: a good seat to have. But by the same token,

511
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Speaker 5: I don't think that went over particularly well with a

512
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Speaker 5: lot of people in the paddock when they were rotating people,

513
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Speaker 5: rotating drivers as they did last year.

514
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, two years ago, two years ago, two years ago.

515
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

516
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Speaker 3: And I think that has helped Nolan's case. People started

517
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Speaker 3: to wonder at the end of last season. I also

518
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 3: think what helped his case was the ongoing lawsuit. You know,

519
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 3: they're trying to extract money from Alex Polow for not

520
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 3: holding up his contract, So it probably would be best

521
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Speaker 3: that they fulfill the contract with Nolan Siegel. Now, by

522
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 3: the way, who knows what the actual contract is. They

523
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: may have had an outclause where I know of drivers

524
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 3: that have had performance based clauses. If you are not

525
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 3: a certain point in the championship, we have the right

526
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Speaker 3: to replace you, and sometimes drivers have Hey, if we

527
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: are not a certain place in the championship, I have

528
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Speaker 3: the right to leave. To answer the question directly, I

529
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: will be very very very surprised, if not shocked, if

530
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Speaker 3: he does not finish the season. I still think Nolan

531
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,719
Speaker 3: is going to find some success this season. It's going

532
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 3: to get tough because he's probably going to have to

533
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Speaker 3: find it here in the next three or four races,

534
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 3: or they're going to start shopping that seat around for

535
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Speaker 3: next year. And some might say, well, what if they're

536
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: in danger of missing the leaders circle? Well, then it

537
00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 3: depends on what that contract is. So court records seem

538
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 3: to indicate that he's bringing about ten million dollars a year.

539
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 3: So even pro rate that divided by eighteen, if he

540
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Speaker 3: doesn't finish the season, you know, you can make one

541
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Speaker 3: point six million from the leader circle. They're probably going

542
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Speaker 3: to have to give it back about that same amount.

543
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 3: But I also suspect that Nolan Siegel's people were sharp

544
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Speaker 3: enough to understand, now, if we're going to make this

545
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: commitment for this type of money, we are going to

546
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 3: be locked in and we are going to be in

547
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 3: control of this. So I think they'll want to finish

548
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 3: off the season and then they will see where things stand.

549
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 3: You know, probably some point mid season they'll have to

550
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: make a decision on what's going to happen for next

551
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Speaker 3: season in that car.

552
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would like I said, I don't think they're

553
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Speaker 5: replacing him in June, but if they started the month

554
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Speaker 5: of August and they were in you know, they needed

555
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 5: a short track guy to do well at you know,

556
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 5: the last you know, the last couple of races, and

557
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 5: maybe that's him play.

558
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 3: But it probably depends on what the contract is. I

559
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 3: know there was a driver a few years ago where

560
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 3: he was bringing funding and they really wanted the seat,

561
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 3: and they said, if we are not a certain place

562
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 3: in the championship, you can boot us at any time

563
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 3: and you keep the money. So if that was in there,

564
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 3: then that changes things up entirely. So every situation in

565
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: every contract is different, and none of us really know

566
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 3: the truth in all of those things. Sarah Morris has

567
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 3: a couple of questions. One is what was going on

568
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 3: with Andretti in the pits. Who is the fault for

569
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: the crash at the end of the race, So what

570
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 3: was going on to the pits is they Yeah, they

571
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 3: had some issues and they'll want to clean that up.

572
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 3: I think Kirkwood had problems and all three of it stops.

573
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 3: Remarkable that he still won the race. Ericson did at

574
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Speaker 3: least once powers was unfortunate timing where someone else is

575
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 3: coming in and they were quick enough to get him stop,

576
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: so there wasn't a collision, didn't end it race, but

577
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: they didn't have clean pit stops all the way around,

578
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: and that's been a challenge for Andretti and something there

579
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 3: trying to clean up. So it will be something we

580
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Speaker 3: watch at the end of the race. You're talking about

581
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Speaker 3: when Siegel got into Grojean, I think everyone was quick

582
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Speaker 3: to blame Nolan. Turns out it wasn't Nolan's fault. From

583
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Speaker 3: what I've seen, it looked like Kiff and Simpson on

584
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Speaker 3: the restart got into the back of Nolan, who shoved

585
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 3: him into Grojean. So that's what happened on that case,

586
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 3: and Sarah also reposted something from Hickey ninety three, who

587
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,719
Speaker 3: does a good job of going through on boards, and

588
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 3: noticed that Graham ray Hall made contact with Nolan Siegel

589
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 3: on that little kinked straight away. Jack Harvey and I

590
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 3: actually noticed that on the track walk where we cheated

591
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 3: a real golf cart because it was a mile long,

592
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: and wondered about that. That's it's a backstretch, but there

593
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 3: was a kink there and we were fearful that you know,

594
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to get set up on the preferred side,

595
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 3: that you won to be able to get through their flat.

596
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 3: And that's almost I think what what I got. Nolan

597
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: did get Nolan Siegel and grammaray Hall together, but both

598
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 3: continued on. So Sarah said, did you know about this?

599
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 3: Asking me why was it not mentioned on the broadcast.

600
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 3: So unfortunately, Sarah, I do not have all twenty five

601
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: on boards on my little jerk cam there on pit

602
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: lane to monitor those things. So a lot of times

603
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 3: things get missed when you're battling for nineteenth. You know,

604
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: if that was verse second or third, somebody would have

605
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 3: probably seen that, but it took a day later for

606
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 3: anybody to notice that. If someone with either team feels

607
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 3: like that was a big deal. They can alert one

608
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,479
Speaker 3: of the pit reporters and we can, you know, go

609
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 3: ask tape to go back and find something. But you know,

610
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 3: not much we can do. And we see it the

611
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,479
Speaker 3: next day on social media. There you go.

612
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I cut you some slack on that one.

613
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 5: Twenty five twenty five.

614
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 3: In charge of the race times and the schedule and

615
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 3: the announcers. You know, I'm not in charge of all

616
00:33:59,040 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 3: the onboards.

617
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 5: You're in charge of Jack, That's the only thing you've

618
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 5: got to be responsible for.

619
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Speaker 3: The Cincy Buckeye says, oh. This was going back to

620
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: will Power in the prescott. So he says, think you've

621
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 3: mentioned this before, but how much is the cost for

622
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 3: a sponsor to put on a car flat fear depends

623
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Speaker 3: on projected use. He's talking about the onboard going from

624
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: Willpower and alex Poalow Power saying, we'd really like to

625
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 3: see your onboard. Why is it you never have an onboard?

626
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 3: And Chip Ganassi said, I'd love to have one, but

627
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 3: it costs money. Yeah, I have a pretty good guess

628
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 3: what it is, but I'm not going to share that.

629
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 3: That's not for me to share. If I've said that before.

630
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 3: You should have written it down. I don't even remember

631
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 3: what the exact number is. I know what it costs

632
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 3: in sports car series my son runs in. I know

633
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 3: what it costs in a NASCAR truck, I know what

634
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 3: it costs in Indy Next, and I have a guestiment

635
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 3: of what it costs for Indy Car. So generally speaking,

636
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 3: that is it's guaranteed money for the spawn, sir, because

637
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 3: you get a logo there and it's going to be

638
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 3: mentioned a certain amount of times. So it's similar to

639
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 3: if you want to buy to become the title sponsor

640
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 3: of a race broadcast, which does not necessarily have to

641
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 3: go along with the name of the race, that is

642
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 3: negotiated with the promoter or the racetrack. Now that said,

643
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 3: the broadcaster, I think normally has a few where they

644
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 3: can just distribute and what I don't know because I'm

645
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 3: not involved in these conversations. If Chip Kanassi Racing has said, yeah,

646
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 3: now we're good, we don't really need one, because I

647
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 3: don't think that that's to their benefit. It doesn't want

648
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 3: anyone to see Alex Polo. But the other drivers are saying,

649
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 3: oh wait a minute, they assigned them to my car

650
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 3: every once in a while, so you're seeing what I have.

651
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 3: I want to see your video as well, so.

652
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 5: It's an interesting little drama. I'd love to really know

653
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 5: the truth on this, not only from the Ganassi and Peloside,

654
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 5: but also from the other drivers. You know, they what

655
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 5: they really would glean. It'd just be fun to really

656
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 5: know all those things.

657
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 3: Yep. And maybe you don't even find out much from

658
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 3: him because, as we've said, the other drivers have told

659
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 3: me there's not anything glaring that's just gonna pop out

660
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 3: and say, oh, that's it. That's what Alex Polo does. No,

661
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 3: he just does everything a half a percent better.

662
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: I would agree with that.

663
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 3: All add up to about eight percent, or in the

664
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Speaker 3: case of last year's race at Barber, sixteen seconds over

665
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Speaker 3: ninety laps.

666
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 5: It's been it was. It had been thirty nine races.

667
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 5: I counted this up today, been thirty nine races since

668
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 5: somebody had won as convincingly as he won last year's race.

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Speaker 5: You had to go back to Gateway in twenty three

670
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 5: when Dixon won on strategy, won by twenty two seconds.

671
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 5: But you got to go back away to find a

672
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 5: more dominating performance.

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00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: We probably had.

674
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 5: He's had a couple others that I recall, the one

675
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 5: at Laguna Seca, which was pretty impressive. It just wasn't statistically,

676
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 5: or at least from the stopwatch standpoint, wasn't as convincing

677
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 5: as that sixteen second victory at Barber. But he led

678
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 5: eighty one of the eighty one of the ninety laps

679
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 5: last year at Barber. And remember this too, he won

680
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 5: five of the seven road course races last year and

681
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 5: finished second at mid Ohio because he screwed up and

682
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 5: finished third at Portland when he didn't need to do

683
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 5: anything that cat could have won set all seven of

684
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 5: these road course races. He may just destroy them. This weekend.

685
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 3: We will start to find out if we're going to

686
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 3: have a championship this weekend. He is and ready for real.

687
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 3: We know they're good on street races. Looks like they've

688
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 3: got their short oval package pretty well sorted. Had they

689
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 3: made a step on their road course package? What about Penske,

690
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 3: What about McLaren or is it back to being a

691
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 3: Ganassi program or really an Alex Palo program. One final tweet,

692
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 3: because this is how we started the show. The Cincy

693
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 3: Buckeye tweeted me and Doug Bowles and said time to

694
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Speaker 3: honor the man and make this the official IndyCar and

695
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 3: Indy five hundred theme. F one has one. Masters in

696
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: the NCAA have theirs. Same for the NFL networks for

697
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 3: Chuck and it was a link to Delta Force. I

698
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 3: don't know if that needs to be the theme or not.

699
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 3: I've never seen the movie Delta Force. I have no

700
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 3: idea what it's about. And I just knew this as

701
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 3: an Indy five hundred song. And oh really there was

702
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 3: a movie. Yeah, you don't get out much. I wasn't

703
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 3: watching by Norse movies. I've never seen a Chuck Norris

704
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 3: movie in my life, but I know he is. And

705
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 3: I like the song because it reminds me of the

706
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: Paul Page intros. That's why I like the song. I

707
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 3: think you will hear it at some point this month

708
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 3: of May. So I think so too. Everyone is aware.

709
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 3: All right, we'll talk about Barber and some more things

710
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Speaker 3: going on Indy five hundred. Getting to thirty three thirty four,

711
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 3: we'll touch on that and more next on track side.

712
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Speaker 2: This is Alex below and you're listening to truck Site.

713
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 3: All right, we've got some many five hundred news before

714
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 3: we continue. We knew this was happening, but as you

715
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 3: have pointed out, you want to see the release. Well,

716
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 3: we got one from Bed Carpenter a month or so ago.

717
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 3: We got your li O Cash Nevz announcement. We had

718
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 3: already heard some sponsor things, so we knew that was happening,

719
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 3: and they weren't really trying to keep it a secret.

720
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 3: But he has been confirmed as the Drive for five continues.

721
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 3: Happy to hear that. And I thought this was coming,

722
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 3: but I had not seen this anywhere so needed to

723
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 3: see it confirmed to Kumasato is back with Ray Hall

724
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 3: Letterman Landing and Racing. There's six Indy five hundreds right there,

725
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 3: and a few others that came very close for both

726
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 3: those drivers.

727
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 5: Yeh, look, I'd have I'd have Sado on my short

728
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 5: list if I was going to compete for the end

729
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 5: five hundred. He qualified in the second spot last year

730
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 5: and led the most laps in the race.

731
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Speaker 2: He still got it.

732
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 5: You know, he's you know, he's he's the right mindset,

733
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 5: he's the right build, he's the right experience. He could

734
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 5: easily be a four time winner of this race with

735
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 5: a couple of breaks.

736
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Speaker 3: I feel like that's helpful for Mick Schumacher having him

737
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 3: on board, someone with a similar background to explain to

738
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 3: him what the differences are going to be.

739
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 5: Well, I think it's also good for Graham Rail just

740
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 5: to have another voice at his level. You know, Graham's

741
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,479
Speaker 5: been very good at Indie too, so not that good,

742
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 5: but he's been pretty good.

743
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 3: So I think we are at thirty one driver confirmations.

744
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 3: Do I have that correct? The thirty second the team

745
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 3: has confirmed Andretti is confirmed. I think they've confirmed.

746
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.

747
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 3: They're going to run a fourth car. They have not

748
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: confirmed that Colton hurd is going to drive that car

749
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 3: or someone else. I think the conversations or the public

750
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 3: comments have been yeah, he's he's on the list. Uh

751
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: So I think he's doing it, but I don't know

752
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 3: that with one percent certainty. As I've said before, there

753
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 3: probably needs to be a backup plan because there are

754
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 3: a few factors involved. But I will be very, very

755
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 3: surprised if Colton hurda is not driving that car for

756
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 3: the ND five hundred. But we know that car is running,

757
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 3: So that's thirty two and then after that. So I

758
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 3: talked to Calum a lot for a little while this weekend,

759
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 3: and he doesn't know. It's still there's still a chance,

760
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: I think, is what we're saying, There is still a chance.

761
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 3: I talked to Jacob Aabel they were standing next to

762
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 3: each other. I had talked to Calum a couple of

763
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 3: days before, and then when I saw Jacob at Sebring,

764
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 3: asked him and he said, yeah, I'm not really sure.

765
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: And I said why Suman has to do with Prema,

766
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 3: And then looked over and Callum is standing there and said, so,

767
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 3: really it comes down to both of you. You can't race.

768
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 3: One of you gets to race. And we kind of chatted,

769
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 3: and you know, they obviously don't want to say a

770
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 3: whole lot. I think there is still a desire to

771
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 3: have thirty four by IndyCar, by IMS and by Fox.

772
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 3: Now is that desire enough to convince Chevrolet to add

773
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 3: the extra entry for someone that's not a full time team,

774
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 3: because that's where we're at. Most likely at this point,

775
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: prem is not going to be a full time team.

776
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: They're not going to be a long beach. The earliest

777
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 3: we're going to see them is the ndy five hundred.

778
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 3: I suppose there's a scenario where they could run both

779
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 3: of those cars, But I don't get that that's super likely. Really,

780
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 3: it takes the owner of that group to say, all right,

781
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 3: I'm just going to fund it because it's here's something interesting.

782
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 3: Because of how well things are going, Like we talked

783
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 3: about in the first segment, commercially, a friend of mine

784
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 3: who kind of really understands the inside of the sport

785
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 3: and the business part of it is, there are more

786
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 3: investors and wealthy people that would like to be involved

787
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 3: in professional sports. Really thinking about IndyCar now, and you

788
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 3: look at what Ted Geloff did, And I have no

789
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: idea what Ted's net wealth is, but it's pretty expensive

790
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 3: to buy an NFL.

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00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 5: Team or an NBA team, or a base even if

792
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 5: you could, even if you could.

793
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 3: Even if you could, even if you have ten billion dollars,

794
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 3: do you really want to give half of it away

795
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 3: for an NFL team? But here you can participate in

796
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 3: a major sport that has, even if you're not a

797
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 3: motorsports fan, has one of the great marquee events in

798
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 3: the world. I don't know what the buy in number is,

799
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 3: but it's probably somewhere between fifteen and fifty million dollars,

800
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 3: depending on what the percentage is how much you have,

801
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: whether you're buying all the you know, so on and

802
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: so forth. But say it's on the high end at

803
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 3: fifty or seventy five million dollars, and now there is

804
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 3: some value moving forward because of the charter system, so

805
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 3: you could get some of that back. That looks a

806
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 3: lot more enticing to be involved in big time professional sports,

807
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 3: and it's more doable. There are more people that can

808
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 3: do that, that can get involved. And by the way,

809
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 3: even if you have the money to be in the NFL,

810
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 3: they might say, we don't like how you made your money,

811
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 3: or we don't like your public persona, you're not invited

812
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 3: to the club. That is a challenge. So back to

813
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 3: the point, it's it's going to be difficult for Prema

814
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 3: to it's harder for them to find a buyer because

815
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 3: they're not locked into the grid unless something changes and

816
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 3: they are given a charter, or they can buy a

817
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 3: charter from someone else. You're really just buying the equipment.

818
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 5: By the way, seventy five million, I think still seems

819
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 5: high to get to get involved unless and I think

820
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 5: the other thing, and it's it's not the same thing,

821
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 5: but even just the attention Michael Jordan has gotten as

822
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 5: a team owner. Now, granted, Michael Jordan is unique, but

823
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 5: I think that the team owner is getting a lot

824
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 5: of attention here if you are Tom Brady or you

825
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 5: are somebody else with wants to I mean a lot

826
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 5: of athletes have put money into into sports franchises, whether

827
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 5: it be pick a ball, whether it be soccer, whether

828
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 5: Jack Harvey's involved with soccer, but they have gotten into,

829
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 5: you know, the non marquee sports. And the other thing

830
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 5: I guess I would say is it didn't go well

831
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 5: for Carmelo Anthony. That's an old joke reference in Indy

832
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 5: five hundred world. But you have seen some of these

833
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 5: kind of deals and it may work for somebody else.

834
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Speaker 3: The Ted Geloff example is going to be a good one.

835
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 3: It will be or it's not just someone that wants

836
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 3: to play in pro sports. He's using it to market

837
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: his companies, and I get the impression that it's working.

838
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 3: His commercial Java Java House has taken a major step forward,

839
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 3: and I think they are seeing a return in sales.

840
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 3: Splenda was already splendid, but it's probably helping Splenda as well.

841
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 3: So that's that's kind of the template. If that goes

842
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 3: well and they feel like, yeah, we're actually getting a

843
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 3: return for our brands, and they'll have they have other

844
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 3: brands and they'll introduce more brands moving forward. But getting

845
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 3: back to the point, is I suspect any car is

846
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 3: because they invested so much, allowing premise some time. If

847
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 3: you can get your program together, you won the poll

848
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 3: last year, you're welcome to come back. But there is

849
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 3: going to be a date where that Chevy engine is released.

850
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 3: And if bill Able wants to run a team he

851
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 3: I think has a car, then he could enter it

852
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 3: for Jacob or maybe they decide to combine with Hunkos

853
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 3: Hollinger or aj Foyd. I think it needs to be

854
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 3: a Chevy team. I will be surprised if Honda does

855
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 3: a program at this point because I'm not sure that

856
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 3: the other teams have enough chassis that they feel like.

857
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 3: But if Abel has a chassis that was really good,

858
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 3: then that could be something that they do as well.

859
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 3: Can we get to thirty four again, that's probably going

860
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 3: to be up to Chevy, and it's going to be

861
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: up to time. If they can get these deals done now,

862
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 3: then I feel very confident Chevy would say yeah, let's

863
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 3: do it, But if it's April twenty fifth, it's going

864
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 3: to be no. We needed to hire people before. We

865
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 3: don't want to shortchange any of our other customers. And

866
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 3: do we really want to just go bump one of

867
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 3: our others? You know, maybe you can bump one of

868
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 3: the Honda teams. But those are all some considerations there

869
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 3: drivers out there. You know, I've heard Catherine leg I

870
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 3: think Marshall Prude has written about that that she has

871
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 3: some budget, has been talking to Chevy teams. Who else

872
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 3: has been mentioned? Devil and d Francesco was someone that

873
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 3: I think could be a possibility. Marshall Prude has mentioned

874
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 3: Stefan Wilson that he still has some budgets to try

875
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 3: to put something together.

876
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 5: So did you say, Catherine Legg I tuned out. I

877
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 5: did for a second, Yeah, yep.

878
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 3: So I'm still I'm hoping, I guess I say I'm

879
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 3: hoping thirty four. But as we've said many a time,

880
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,479
Speaker 3: I don't get super enthused about thirty four. The show

881
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,959
Speaker 3: was good last year, there's still a lot of drama,

882
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 3: and I probably shouldn't look at it this way. I

883
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 3: shouldn't look at it just feeling bad and usually I'm

884
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 3: the person that has to go talk to that thirty

885
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 3: fourth qualifier, so maybe that's where that comes from. But

886
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 3: I would like it to be thirty five. And if

887
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 3: it's not thirty five, then thirty three. But then I

888
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 3: get that takes away a lot from the weekend. And

889
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: even though it's only one, you still have that As

890
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 3: we've always said, even if you're a full time team,

891
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 3: if you crash and get behind, just like gramm Ary

892
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 3: Hall did a few years ago, you can easily be

893
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 3: left out. Yeah, so I thought, I thought thirty four

894
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 3: is the right thing if you can get thirty four.

895
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 5: Done, and I think having four in that last pro

896
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 5: shootout still puts the pressure that we want to see exist.

897
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 3: Yep. Here is something I just kind of looked through

898
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 3: my notes. I don't think I've mentioned. Adam Stern of

899
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 3: Sports Business Journal wrote this a couple of weeks ago

900
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 3: that IMS is starting to explore the potential of adding

901
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 3: a mixed use development around it's one thousand acres for

902
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 3: things like shopping, hotels, housing, as the track has had

903
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 3: early conversations with Indianapolis and Speedway officials over the last year.

904
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 3: So just something of note, kind of cure there's that

905
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 3: structure there at sixteenth in Maine that they started building

906
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 3: and stopped, and that has been kind.

907
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: Of that's not a speedway, that's not a speedway project.

908
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 3: Maybe they could buy that land, could be So this

909
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 3: is all in land. This report is about land that

910
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 3: they already own around the area. Is that how you

911
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 3: read that to mean? Yes? Yes, okay, so that is different.

912
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 3: That's something different. One other tweet I wanted to get

913
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 3: to before we look at Barber and that was from

914
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 3: the Moon Corp. No, I'm not that guy. I really

915
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 3: liked the single car qualifying, but some drivers had an

916
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 3: issue with tire temperatures. Could a few sets of tire

917
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 3: warmers help in this scenario?

918
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 5: Well, they either need tire warmers or they need to

919
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 5: give an extra set of tires for the fast six.

920
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 5: I think that's the simple. And then you have to

921
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 5: turn them back in. You don't get to keep them.

922
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 5: They're not an advantage for the race. You don't get

923
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 5: to learn anything. You get one set of reds, go

924
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 5: do it.

925
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 3: I think that's it. And then it becomes does fire

926
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 3: Stone have a six extra sets of tires? There have

927
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 3: still been supply chain issues and getting things made and

928
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 3: there have been shortages in all forms motorsport. But I

929
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 3: think to do it as we saw, there was a

930
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 3: huge advantage to being six quick and getting to go

931
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 3: out first. That and otherwise, I don't think anybody was

932
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 3: going to burn a new set when you have to

933
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 3: use two in qualifying. That is TBD. If and when

934
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 3: we will see that again, I know we will not

935
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 3: see that. It is the traditional Firestone Fast six 's

936
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 3: three round qualifying coming up at Barber this weekend. At

937
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 3: Barber this week go ahead, Yeah, I think it is,

938
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 3: but I know it is. Yeah, Okay, we may see

939
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 3: it again. I don't know whether we will or not.

940
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 3: I just know that this weekend is going to be

941
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 3: what we have traditionally seen. And I think the idea

942
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 3: behind that was this is a new event, it's special,

943
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 3: let's try it out. You know. In my mind it

944
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 3: would be like Washington, DC would be a good place.

945
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 3: There's no support racis and I think part of it

946
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 3: depends if you get an FS one window. I feel

947
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 3: like it has more value if you're on FS one

948
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 3: then FS two, because that's what I like about it

949
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 3: most is from the commercial standpoint that the teams get

950
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 3: a reward, if they're a top six qualifier, that we're

951
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 3: going to look at their car and their logos for

952
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 3: two and a half minutes.

953
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 5: I heard Zach Brown mention this. I think that's a

954
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 5: good thing too. I think you need to start the

955
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 5: next car before the first car is done, just getting moving.

956
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 3: So the reason they did not do that, so I

957
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 3: would like that is too. But what if someone wads

958
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 3: it up in the last corner and then that person

959
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 3: is already left and they've put a heat cycle that

960
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 3: they no longer have new tires, or if they're using

961
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 3: used tires, then what do you do. Then you have

962
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 3: a big time issue and you're short on tires. So

963
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,959
Speaker 3: it has disadvantaged that driver who was leaving the pit.

964
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 5: Lane, fair point, and we have we have seen that

965
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 5: in oval track situations before over the last twenty twenty

966
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 5: five years, where you started a guy out just a

967
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,479
Speaker 5: few minutes and then he been the car in front

968
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 5: of him crashes. So I see the point there, but

969
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 5: I think you can speed that up just a little bit.

970
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 3: I think we're out of time. What time has left.

971
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 3: We'll preview Barber when we come back on track side.

972
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 2: Hi, this is Kyle Kirkwood and you're listening to track side.

973
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 3: Okay, final segment and what we missed Saturday night, fairly

974
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 3: late during the twelve hours of seabring and maybe just

975
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 3: a was about to start to go dark. Words started

976
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 3: to spread at the track on Pitt Lane that Jim

977
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 3: mchaleyan had passed away. A lot of us had just

978
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 3: seen him the week before. He was at the Arlington Race,

979
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 3: So very sudden, very sad. If you don't know who

980
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 3: Jim is, He's the promoter of the Long Beach Grand Prix,

981
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 3: the president and the CEO, had been there from the

982
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 3: very beginning, involved in starting in nineteen seventy five and

983
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 3: had been running the place for the last twenty some years.

984
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 3: He was going to be celebrated this year. He was

985
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 3: semi retiring. He was still going to be involved as

986
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 3: a consultant with Penske Entertainment and one of the favorites

987
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 3: for everyone. So we look forward to saluting him in

988
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 3: a different role coming up this April, and now we'll

989
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 3: celebrate him much differently. So back to back events. George

990
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 3: Barber will celebrate a bit this weekend I'm sure at

991
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 3: Barbara Motorsports Park, and then Jim at Long Beach as well.

992
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 3: Jim will be missed. We're out of time. We'll see

993
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 3: you next Tuesday night at seven Here on trackside