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Speaker 1: Colts win yesterday, first time in the Los Angeles since

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Speaker 1: the eighties. I think hammer uh thirty eight to twenty

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Speaker 1: four against the Chargers. My name is Nigel. That's Jason

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Speaker 1: Haamer over there with a very special guest on the hotline.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Bowen. Part of the morning show over at one

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Speaker 2: O seven to five the fan and KB. I'm not

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Speaker 2: one for hyperbole, but Jonathan Taylor is the MVP and

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Speaker 2: the Colts are winning the Super Bowl? Was that correct? Wow?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well let's throw and maybe I use winning the

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Speaker 3: National Championship as well, so you might as well set

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Speaker 3: aside the funds for it all.

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Speaker 1: Let's get it rolling.

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Speaker 2: Produe's number one in college Basketball's preseason poll.

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Speaker 4: Sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and now that one will be a little bit

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Speaker 3: less pricey. That one's at Lucas Oil Stadium. You know,

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Speaker 3: I U in the National title. You got to get

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Speaker 3: Santa Clara. But yeah, it's uh, it's wild. Someone asked

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Speaker 3: was more or like? Which one do you think is

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Speaker 3: more likely? If the Colts win the Super Bowl or

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Speaker 3: the Indiana Hoosiers win the National championship in football, and

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Speaker 3: I'm like, can you imagine if someone was on Mars

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Speaker 3: world and like that was the question that they heard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's crazy. You wake up from a coma.

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Speaker 2: Let's say you had a bad car crash, and you

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Speaker 2: to be a sports fan. And Indie Pacers are coming

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Speaker 2: off an NBA Finals appearance. I know their season starts

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Speaker 2: Walk me through what you saw yesterday.

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Speaker 4: I saw an offensive clinic.

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Speaker 3: Shane Stike and Daniel Jones, Johnson Taylor, the offensive line.

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Speaker 3: I know Jim Rsey and the old phrase of Star

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Speaker 3: putting up just incredible numbers. Again, it's very balanced. It's

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Speaker 3: You could have a great debate right now. You know

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Speaker 3: who's more the MVP for the Colts. Is it Jonathan

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Speaker 3: you know, on that list league wide, not just within

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Speaker 3: it was needed because you know, I didn't think the

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, let's measure it out.

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Speaker 3: Towards when you play more of these teams, playoff type teams.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned it. Those are huge interceptions they got in

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Speaker 4: And then to meet the moment when the.

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Speaker 1: FANOM Morning show. There, my name is Nigel Jason Hammer Here.

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Speaker 1: Hammer was texted me yesterday after every big player that

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor made MVP MVP MVP now what about Rookie

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Colts say, I don't know the NFL Awards show,

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Speaker 4: So, boy, it's been quite some time since We.

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Speaker 3: Talked about the Colts in a ward season life, which

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Speaker 2: I text Rob Kendall every single week, who's a diehard

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Speaker 4: I know it was. It was funny. I forget who

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Speaker 2: And this weekend, the Tennessee Titans come in. It's a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I believe there are six teams on a

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Speaker 4: You know, if you made me pick and we get.

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Speaker 4: And it's just schedule wise.

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Speaker 1: Hey, what about the Pacers. They're kicking off their regular

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Speaker 1: season this week. What's the analysis there? What are we

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Speaker 1: looking for?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we will start if I can plug our

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Speaker 3: Tuesday conversations with Rick Carlisle.

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Speaker 4: Coming up tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 3: So Rick Carlisle has joined us every Tuesday for Boll

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Speaker 3: I want to say the last three years now, so

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Speaker 3: this would be another season with him Tuesdays at eight over.

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Speaker 3: I want to send bide the fan. So they'll start Thursday.

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Speaker 3: They will have the Thunder, ironically enough in their building,

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Speaker 3: as if you haven't seen them enough. So the NBA

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Speaker 3: get started tomorrow. The Thunder will play in their ring

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Speaker 3: ceremony game in OKC, and then the Pacers will host

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Speaker 3: them at the nationally televised game Thursday night. No TJ

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Speaker 3: McConnell for the first ten twelve games, maybe more. He

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Speaker 3: heard his hamstring in their preseason opener, So that is

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Speaker 3: a bit of a bummer there. Point guard depth without

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Speaker 3: Tyrese Halliburton already a question.

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Speaker 4: But you know, Vegas doesn't think very highly of them.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm sure Hammer's seen the number they've got

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Speaker 3: him under forty wins, which I think is low. I

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Speaker 3: still expect this team to be a playoff team, but

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Speaker 3: Vegas is not very high in the Pacers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on the over KB and I took it

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Speaker 2: a step further. I got some pretty good plus money

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Speaker 2: on the Pacers to make the playoffs getting out of

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Speaker 2: the play in round.

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Speaker 4: I like it. I like it. Do you recall what

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Speaker 4: the plus number was?

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Speaker 2: Oh, there are so many bets right now. They're all

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Speaker 2: kind of running together. But I think I was looking

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Speaker 2: at round plus three hundred.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that is very very healthy juice there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so making the play in round isn't enough. You've

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Speaker 2: got to actually get into a series round. If that happens,

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Speaker 2: we cash.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, top sixteen.

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Speaker 3: So again, I you know, the East is wide open

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Speaker 3: really outside of the thunder for the NBA crew out there,

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Speaker 3: it's a very wide open year. I think in the

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Speaker 3: NBA the Calves has some injuries Jason Tatums also towards Achilles.

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Speaker 3: Do you really believe in the Knicks. They obviously have

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Speaker 3: a new coaching staff. So I think the East in

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Speaker 3: particular is wide open.

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Speaker 2: What's coming up on the Big Show tomorrow?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so Rick Carlisle will join us at eight o'clock. Again,

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Speaker 3: we'll start our Tuesday's conversation with him, and then I

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Speaker 3: believe we'll have I U A. D.

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Speaker 4: Scott Dolson.

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Speaker 3: Obviously a busy week last week, tend to paper for

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Speaker 3: Kurt Signetti on that deal. So Scott Dolson scheduled to

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Speaker 3: join us Wednesday at eight o'clock. So so vis the

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Speaker 3: eight o'clock hours the next couple.

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Speaker 2: Of days, Kevin Bowen, what oh seven five is the

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Speaker 2: fan check him out in the morning show KB.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate it, all right, boys, they