1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Line from val hartber and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today, good after you and. 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 2: Everyone Fenames Rick Hotel especially in charge for homeland security 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 2: investigations here in New York. 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: This morning, hundreds of special agents and investigators with age side. 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 2: It's the FBI, the New York Waterfront Commission, and the 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: NYPDA descended upon the homes of individuals who for years 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: have operated with the false sense of impunity, a false 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 2: sense against incivility. In the early hours of today off 10 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: nine states post to post Dudgeons are defendants were arrested 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 2: and will face the consequence of their alleged grands. 12 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: This was their wake up course with the alleged involved 13 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: in that three La cost and. 14 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: Noosh recurrent families, one NBA head coach, a Hall of Famer, no. 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: Less and former NBA players. 16 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: The years of investigative work that culminated with this morning 17 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: operation seemed reminiscent of a Hollywood movie. 18 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: Holy crap, this story is nuts. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, 19 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: good to be with you. I'm not even one hundred 20 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: percent sure, like how am I supposed to go over it? 21 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: Because we don't have all the angles yet this story 22 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: is insane. So it was the other day we heard 23 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: that Terry Rozier from the Miami Heat. I think I'm 24 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: pronouncing the name right. He got arrested in an illegal 25 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: gambling case. We said, a another athlete in gambling. I mean, 26 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: this happens. Gambling is so prevalent, right, it's on your 27 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: phone right there, it's the app right there. Gambling amongst 28 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: people who have money is certainly prevalent. Gambling in the NBA. 29 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: You just listen to the stories of Michael Jordan. It 30 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: was everywhere all the time. This isn't new, This isn't now. 31 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: What were they betting on or were they betting on 32 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: their own games? Well, that's completely different subject. That's Pete 33 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: Rose territory. There's a whole thing there. But he gets 34 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: arrested in an illegal gambling case. I didn't know much 35 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: about it. I didn't really think much about it. I said, okay, 36 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: sports story, I'm moving on. Then there's this where you 37 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: have Chauncey Billups, the head coach of the Portland Trailblazers, 38 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: charged in this federal probe an alleged illegal poker scheme 39 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: tied to organized crime. And that's what the officer in charge, 40 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: a specialition in charge there for the FBI was just 41 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: discussing thirty one people across the country charged with running 42 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: rigged games Manhattan, the Hamptons, and Las Vegas, and as 43 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: is being reported, the players were being paid by guys 44 00:02:55,280 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: in the mob and these cartels in card games that 45 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: were fixed with technology and card shuppling machines to give 46 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: the house the advantage. Holy crap, is that what I 47 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 1: started with. But this wasn't luck, and this wasn't theatrics. 48 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: This was an evidence driven, relentless and unified effort among 49 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: law enforcement through what we have dubbed Operation Royal Flush. HSI, 50 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: New York, along with our task force personnel from the 51 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: Waterfront Commission, first uncovered the scheme more than four years ago. 52 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: Agents and investigators dedicated countless hours and sleepless nights in 53 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: identifying the criminal network, dissecting communications in patterns, and following 54 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: the money with precision. We built the case piece by piece, 55 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: and what we discovered was a sprawling criminal enterprise that 56 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: utilized cutting edge technology and various methods of deception to 57 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: dupe unsuspecting gamblers into paying up so that these defendants 58 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: could cash out as alleged, This sophisticated conspiracy cheated victims 59 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: out of at least seven million dollars and place the 60 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: public and the defendants alike at risk. This case involved 61 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,799 Speaker 2: global reach, financial death, and the patience to dismantle complex 62 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: financial criminal enterprises from the inside out. When criminal organizations 63 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 2: attempt to launder profits through our country, HSI connects the 64 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: dots and shuts it down to anyone who thinks intimidation, fraud, 65 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: or violence will shield their profits. 66 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: Understand this. 67 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: If you are exploiting our communities, expect HSI and all 68 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 2: of our law enforcement partners at your door. 69 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: It's crazy. Now we've got some more here, right, So 70 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: you have Chauncey Billups, NBA Hall of Famer, a Trailblazer's coach. 71 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: You've got Terry Rozier, So maybe it is part of 72 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: the same thing. Former Cavalier star Damon Jones was arrested 73 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: in the probe FBI director Cash Battel talking about numerous 74 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: arrests in illegal sports betting and poker game schemes. So, 75 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: going back to March of twenty twenty three, the NBA 76 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: was alerted to unusual betting activity related to Terry ro 77 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: Jeers's performance in games between Charlotte and New Orleans. This 78 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: according to an NBA spokesperson. Earlier this year, the league 79 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 1: conducted an investigation did not find a violation of any 80 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: NBA rules, which is certainly certainly possible. We are now 81 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: aware of an investigation by the US Attorney's Office for 82 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,559 Speaker 1: the Eastern District of New York related to this matter, 83 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: and have been cooperating with that investigation. So this is 84 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: about him. Back in a game in twenty twenty three 85 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: against the New Orleans Pelicans, he exited the game after 86 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: playing the first nine minutes of thirty six seconds turn 87 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: because of a foot issue, which was the final game 88 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: of the season for him. Someone on x said that 89 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: they had been alerted that Rosier would be exiting early, 90 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: so there was a question as to what took place there. 91 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: In some of the other investigation. 92 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: In the Portland Trailblazers had coach Chauncey Billups and Miami 93 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: Heat Guarteria Roseier have both been arrested this morning. Billups 94 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 3: at around six am in Portland, Oregon, and Roseier around 95 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 3: six am, I'm told in Orlando, where the Heat were 96 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 3: playing last night. Rosier has been arrested for his involvement 97 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 3: in alleged sports gambling prop bets and billups. ABC News 98 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: is reporting is tied to an illegal poker operation tied 99 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 3: to the mafia. And so you know, the FBI has 100 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 3: been investigating this situation for several months, in Rosier's case 101 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 3: at least two two years, and today is making arrest. 102 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 3: There is a press conference that is set by the FBI. 103 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 3: The Eastern District of New York has been leading this 104 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 3: investigation on and I just. 105 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: Planned for you some of that pressure. This is giant. 106 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: It's a giant story. And for those people who think 107 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: that this is a sports story, it is not. This 108 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: is I think we could argue only having this little 109 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: bit of data right now. This is a story about 110 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: a couple things. First, exactly how much money is being 111 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: made on the side. Second, how much do the leagues 112 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: know about the money being made on the side. Third, 113 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: the culture of pro athletics in general, which has them 114 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: in thinking quite possibly, if not probably, if not accurately 115 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: stated that they are above the law. But we should 116 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: be clear that not every athlete would act in this 117 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: way or does act in this way. And then, most importantly, 118 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: how much of this is covered up when you look 119 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: into these things and see these things. All right, this 120 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: is a nutty thing involving organized crime and everything else. 121 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: And they're tracking the cards and dear gosh, you know, 122 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: no one believes the cod more than the mark. Oh, 123 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play poker with a pro athlete an NBA coach. 124 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: I'm on the inside. I'm cool, you're the sucker. That's 125 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: what's happening here. But how much of this is kind 126 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: of known? And then you know, wink wink, nudge, nudge, 127 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: and then they look the other way. How much of 128 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: this is very Harvey Weinstein in that regard. That's the part, 129 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: that's the part they can unravel here, not just for 130 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: the NBA, but for all pro sports. Who knows what 131 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: what's actually going on? What is condoned even if it's illegal? 132 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: What is condoned even if it's against the rules? Rules 133 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: for the for the but not for me. Is that 134 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: what we're about to find out? Oh, this is a 135 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: much bigger story than just a story of sports. Maybe 136 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: it goes nowhere, but I'm going to cover every bit 137 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: of it, every bit of it. I'm Tony Katz. This 138 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: is Tony Katz Today. 139 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 4: Good morning, everyone. 140 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 5: Welcome to day twenty three of the Democrats shut down, 141 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 5: and today you all know we have a special guest 142 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 5: with us. We're delighted to welcome back to Congress US 143 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 5: Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy. I enjoyed serving with him dinner, 144 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 5: our first my first few years here, and we're grateful 145 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 5: he's serving our country in this very important position right 146 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 5: now in these very challenging times. He's a very busy guy, 147 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 5: but he will give us a few minutes to give 148 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 5: you an update here in just a moment. 149 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: Getting air traffic controllers paid is a pretty big deal. 150 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you. 151 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, there are Democrats who are 152 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: working on this as well. Did I see it right 153 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: that Progressive Congressman Andre Carson now wants to push forward 154 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: legislation to get air traffic controllers paid. Why not push 155 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: Democratic senators to sign the continuing resolution? We're gonna get 156 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: this group paid, that group paid, the other group paid, 157 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: your mother paid. The government's not closed, then there's no 158 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: issue with a shutdown. Did I say, hello, Tony Katz, 159 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: Tony Kats today, find everything at Tony kats dot com. Subscribe. 160 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate it if you would over there at Tony 161 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: kats dot com. It's free. You can be a supporter, 162 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: but it's from me to you. It's a gift. Enjoy it, 163 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: Tony kats dot com. No, that's the longer lines regarding 164 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: TSA issues with air traffic controller and whether or not 165 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: they're getting paid and are they able to do the 166 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: job properly if they're distracted. I mean, this is the 167 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: kind of stuff that keeps people up at night. I mean, 168 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: we're seeing profits from airlines, which definitely boggles the mind. 169 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: It's amazing how that's now taking place. I'm not upset 170 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: about it. Good for them. It's just a question of 171 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: are more people flying or people paying more to fly? 172 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: But you want to have safety and security and feel 173 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: that way walking into an airport, walking onto an airplane. 174 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: You want to know the air traffic controllers are actually 175 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: focused on the gig. So this has become a big 176 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: part of the conversation. But if we're gonna get everybody paid, 177 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: why do we care about the shutdown? Again, No one 178 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: actually cares about the shutdown, but you're hearing more talk 179 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: about it because Day twenty three, which wait, isn't it 180 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: day twenty four? 181 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 4: Is it? 182 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: Dat? 183 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 6: You up? 184 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: It's day twenty three? It just feels like twenty four days. 185 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 4: By way of review. 186 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 5: The reason that my colleagues and I have come in 187 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 5: here every morning now during this painful humor shutdown is 188 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 5: because we have to share the facts, and we have 189 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 5: to share the simple truth with the American people. 190 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 4: And why is that? 191 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 5: Because the Democrats are working over time to try to 192 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 5: hide those facts and to try to distract from the 193 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 5: very simple truth here. They want you to forget that 194 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 5: just five Senate Democrats could reopen the government today. 195 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 4: All he needs five of them. 196 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 5: They try to pretend that their counterproposal deal doesn't reinstate 197 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 5: free healthcare for illegal aliens two hundred billion dollars of 198 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 5: tax payer funds. They try to pretend that their counterproposal 199 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 5: would not send billions of dollars in wasteful spending for 200 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,119 Speaker 5: social projects in foreign countries overseas. 201 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 4: They don't want you to look at the facts. They 202 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 4: don't want you to. 203 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 5: Look at the paperwork that they themselves filed as the counterproposal, 204 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 5: and they refuse to admit that this entire shutdown is 205 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 5: one big political gain to satisfy the radical Marxist space 206 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 5: of their party. But that is exactly what is going on, 207 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 5: and I want to be absolutely clear about this. 208 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 4: Democrats would not have shut the government. 209 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 5: Down this time if their political careers did not depend 210 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 5: on it. And that is not some Republican talking point. 211 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 5: That is the objective truth. If it wasn't already abundantly clear, 212 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 5: the number two Democrat in the House yesterday openly admitted 213 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 5: to that fact. Katherine Clark, as the House Democrat whip. 214 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 5: She works right under Hakeem Jeffries as the number one Democrat. 215 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 4: And she was in an interview and she said to 216 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 4: one of your colleagues, sit in here on the front row. 217 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 5: Quote, of course there will be families that are going 218 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 5: to suffer, but this is one of the few leverage 219 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 5: times we have unquote. It's shocking to hear them say 220 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 5: that out loud. By her own admission, she knows that 221 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 5: the American people are suffering. Democrats know that millions of 222 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 5: federal workers are desperate for their paychecks. They know that 223 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 5: thousands of flights have been delayed. They know that snap 224 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 5: benefits and nutrition assistance for women, infants, and children are 225 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 5: in jeopardy for millions of the American families, and. 226 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 4: Yet they don't seem to care. 227 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 5: But you know what, take card America, Take Hart, because 228 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 5: all your suffering is for a good cause for the 229 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 5: Democrats political leverage. 230 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 4: That's what the number two Democrat said here yesterday. 231 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: And that's the kind of stuff that I'm happy to see. 232 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: Speaker Johnson continuing to discuss that this is political. This 233 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: is about Democrats who have no subject of their own 234 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: to talk about, to talk about something. I mean, they 235 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: want to talk about illegal immigration, and I I will 236 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: get to that. Wait till you hear Representative Dan Goldman. 237 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: You gonna lose your mind. They have nothing else. All 238 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: they have is this. You get hurt, but they get opportunity. 239 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: But the story here is air traffic control. The Secretary 240 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: of Transportation, Sean Duffy spoke. 241 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 7: First off, I want to thank the Republican leadership team 242 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 7: and Republicans in the House for your votes to keep 243 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 7: the government open, keep the government funded. Usually is this 244 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 7: is a House problem. It's in the Senate right now. 245 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 7: The Senate can't find the votes to keep the government open, 246 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 7: and it's Democrat votes. And I thought you made a 247 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 7: really good point, mister Speaker, that I do think in 248 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 7: the Democrat senator's hearts, they want to vote to open 249 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 7: the government up. They don't want to hurt the American people. 250 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 7: But we've seen they have a radical base, a base 251 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 7: that's out of control, and if they vote to open 252 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 7: up the government, what's going to happen is they are 253 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 7: going to be primary, they are going to be attacked, 254 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,479 Speaker 7: maybe their funding might dry up. And so this shutdown 255 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 7: is not about the American people, not about the pain 256 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 7: that America experiences because of the shutdown. This is because 257 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 7: Democrats are concerned about their own hide and they've sold 258 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 7: the country to the most radical element of their country. 259 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 7: And I think that's really shameful. It's too bad. I 260 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 7: also want to thank the Congress and led by Sam Graves. 261 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 7: Many of you have seen what's happened with our air 262 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 7: traffic control system. It's old, it's antiquated, it's safe, but 263 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 7: it has to be massively rebuilt. We need a new system, 264 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 7: and I want to thank the House for leading that effort. 265 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 7: We've asked for thirty one and a half billion dollars. 266 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 7: We got a down payment of twelve and a half 267 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 7: billion dollars to begin that really important work before the shutdown. 268 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 7: We have crafted our teams in a way that can 269 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 7: keep that work moving forward. It doesn't stop during the shutdown, 270 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 7: because again, six months from now, you all won't care 271 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 7: that Democrats shut. 272 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 4: The government down. 273 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 7: You'll want to know what the results are and the 274 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 7: progress of building this new system, so that is still operational. 275 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 7: But I do want to talk about your traffic controllers 276 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 7: for a moment, because I think this is incredibly important. 277 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 4: They're angry. 278 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 7: I've gone to a number of different towers over the 279 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 7: course of the last week to ten days. 280 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 4: They're frustrated. 281 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 7: They're frustrated that the Congress is focused, at least in 282 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 7: the Senate, on paying for healthcare benefits for illegals as 283 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 7: opposed to paying their paychecks. The great work that they 284 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 7: provide to the American people. That makes them angry. You've seen, 285 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 7: as the speaker mentioned, across the national airspace, we see 286 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 7: a small, kind of small there's a certain centers or 287 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 7: traycons or towers where we'll see a lower staffing. 288 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 4: We have lower staffing. 289 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 7: What happens is you'll see delays or cancelations. But it's 290 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 7: not one tower. It's not one traycon. It's not one center. 291 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 7: It's maybe one center. One day it's a traycon another day. 292 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 7: It's kind of moving throughout the national airspace, but it's 293 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 7: causing disruptions. So a week ago, last Tuesday, Democrat air 294 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 7: traffic controllers got ninety percent of their pay because that 295 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 7: paycheck came from most of it for the work they 296 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 7: did in September, So they got most of the money. 297 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 7: Next Tuesday is the first paycheck that they will not 298 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 7: receive for. 299 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 4: The work that they did in October. 300 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 7: And to the Speaker's point, we have air traffic controllers 301 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 7: who work more than five days a week. They work 302 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 7: six days a week to make sure they can cover 303 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 7: air travel throughout the country. And so if you have 304 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 7: a controller that's working six days a week. But as 305 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 7: to think about how am I going to pay the mortgage, 306 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 7: How I'm going to make the car payment? 307 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 4: How am I going to put food on my kid's table. 308 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 7: They have to make choices, and the choices they're making 309 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 7: is to take a second job. 310 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: Why don't want. 311 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 7: Traffic controllers to take a second job. I want them 312 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 7: to do one job. I don't want them delivering for 313 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 7: door dash, I don't want them driving uber. I want 314 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 7: them coming to their facilities and controlling the airspace, but 315 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 7: they're having to make decisions about how they spend their 316 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 7: time to make sure they put food on their table, 317 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 7: feed their kids, and support their family members. 318 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: And this is the argument, this is the pressure point 319 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: against the Democratic Party, the senators who refuse to vote 320 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: for this thing. You make it political. And here's what's 321 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: happening now. This is the standard fair I'm not saying 322 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: no Democrats would have done the same, and this is 323 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: the standard fair conversation. And I understand it, and I'm 324 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: sorry for them, but I still don't get worked up 325 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: about the shutdown. This is for the senators to solve 326 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: and Democratic senators don't want to solve it. And so 327 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: I again say, if we're gonna have people like even 328 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: Congressman Andre Carson, Democrat say we should pay the air 329 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: traffic controllers, and here's another thing, we're got to pay 330 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: the military, what is a shutdown there? I thought these 331 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: things were supposed to mean something. It turns out no, 332 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: they don't mean much. Even when yes, indeed I agree 333 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: with the Secretary of people's lives and livelihoods are on 334 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: the line. I'm Tony Kats. 335 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 6: Congressman Dan Goleman, I'm here next to me with maraud 336 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 6: Alwa Day, the President and CEO of the New York 337 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 6: Immigration Coalition, and we are here to discuss what was 338 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 6: an outrageous use and abuse of power yesterday on Canal 339 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 6: Street with dozens of masked armed ICE agents swarming the streets, 340 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 6: are indiscriminately arresting anyone who may have appeared to look 341 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 6: like an immigrant, inciting violence, and ultimately arresting United States citizens. 342 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: For allow me. This is how Congressman Dan Goldman, who 343 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: every time he speaks he looks like he's in a 344 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: hostage video, started the conversation there on the streets of 345 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: New York. Wise got the big sign look at me, 346 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: I'm a member of Congress. ICE is carrying guns. IRS 347 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: agents carry guns, FBI agents carry guns. ICE shouldn't carry guns. 348 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: Why does an IRS agent need to have a firearm? 349 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: Why does an FBI agent need to have a firearm. 350 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: Tony Kats, Tony Kats today, so good to be with you. 351 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: But this is his argument. They were just indiscriminately arresting people. 352 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: This is where we're at. They're just out there just 353 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: grabbing people. Like you. You look like you're brown and broopon. 354 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: Come now, can we not be these people? And the 355 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: answer is if you're on the political left, no, because 356 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: we could argue as rational people. There could indeed be 357 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: moments where an action from law enforcement is unacceptable. I've 358 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: seen this with police before. There are cops who have 359 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: to get fired and you dang well know it. And 360 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: there could be ICE agents who are acting improperly. But 361 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: are we going to pretend that there aren't illegal immigrants 362 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: on the streets and ICE doing its job as prescribed 363 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: by law. No one is ever discussing ICE violating the 364 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: actual letter of the law. You just don't like the 365 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: fact that they wear a mask while you Dan Goldman 366 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: crats in New York led by Latitia James, the Attorney General, 367 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: put together ICE trackers, congress or or members of the 368 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: Democratic Party in Los Angeles, I should say, put together 369 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: ICE trackers so you can keep an eye on ICE movements. 370 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: You want to out these people, you want to dox 371 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: these people, You want them to get harmed in their 372 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: homes and they're already being shot at. Could we get 373 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: a little focused? Do we want this to work or not? 374 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: And what you're saying Dan Goldman is Nope, you don't 375 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: want this. You don't want safety and security. You don't 376 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: want to get the criminal element off the street. You're 377 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: not interested in people violating the law, like being in 378 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: the country illegally being removed. You're not interested. You don't 379 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: believe in borders. This is the de facto argument. This 380 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: is how it plays down the line. And that's horrifying 381 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: Representative Goldman. But of course when you are out there, 382 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: you know, pound in your chest and screaming Trump bad, 383 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: you don't care about the facts. 384 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 6: Or we're arrested, held overnight here at twenty six Federal Plaza. 385 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 6: We are incredibly concerned right now that rather than toning 386 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 6: down the excessive use of force, spy mask secret ice 387 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 6: agents in military gear, that this administration is showing the 388 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 6: exact opposite intention. 389 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: If we're going to talk about toning down the rhetoric 390 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: and toning down the activities, could we could we start 391 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: with saying that assassinating Charlie Kirk is wrong and we 392 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: don't do that here. Could we start with saying assassinating 393 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: the CEO of United Healthcare is wrong and we don't 394 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: do that here? Could we start by saying that an 395 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: assassination attempt on Donald Trump is wrong and we don't 396 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: do that here. And you might say to me that 397 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: Dan Goldman has said those things. He may have said 398 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: some of those things, but as a political party, how 399 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: about the attack on ICE agents, the NonStop attacks on 400 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: ICE agents? Is this wrong or this you actually think 401 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: that's Americans fighting back? Have you lost your soul? If 402 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: your argument is people who are American citizens got caught 403 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: up in a sweep, I agree with you, man, that 404 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: is awful and there's gonna have to be some hell 405 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,959 Speaker 1: to pay. You can't violate the rights of American citizens. 406 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: I'm telling you this happens all the time, daily occurrence, 407 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: probably not a daily occurrence. But are there Americans who 408 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: get detained because, oh, we thought you were a suspect 409 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: in this, Oh we're looking into this investigation here. No, 410 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: you can't leave. No, we're gonna put you in handcuffs, 411 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: you know, for your safety, for your safety. Oh stop. 412 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: It happens all the time. And you're right, it is 413 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: offensive and is wrong, and that there has to be 414 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: a response to it. But that's not really the argument 415 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: you make, Dan Goldman. The argument you make is against 416 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: the security of the American people. That's how it's seen. 417 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: This may be good for your base, your ever dwindling base, 418 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: but it isn't connecting. This doesn't connect with Midwest America. 419 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: It doesn't connect with Midwest Main Street. It doesn't connect 420 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: with Americans who are saying, can we get the criminal 421 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 1: element of all stripes, illegal and even legal off the streets, 422 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: which is why they support what happened in Washington, DC. 423 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: Get the criminal element off the streets. It's why people 424 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: in Chicago are saying, get the criminal element off our streets. 425 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go. Gotta get 426 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: them gone. Oh. Now the President gets in the National 427 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: Guarden of Portland. If we honestly talk to people of Portland, 428 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: you're gonna find people saying, I don't buy into this 429 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: leftist nonsense. I'm here because of the trees. Please clean 430 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: up the streets because Portland shores hell won't. I am 431 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: of the belief and of the opinion that in the 432 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: main what has to happen is that these cities have 433 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: to be left to fail. That's the only way you learn, 434 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: and what the cities have to learn is that you 435 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: can't vote for democrats. Democrats can't run a city. They 436 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: can't run a city. They can run an art gallery, okay, 437 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: not to love. They can run our other art galleries. 438 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: They can't run a city. They can't do it. They 439 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: don't have the capacity. They could probably run a coffee shop. 440 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: I'm willing to bet you that Democrats will do a 441 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: great job in making my latte. But they can't plow 442 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: the streets of snow. They can't remove the trash, they 443 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: can't fix the poddles, and they can't reduce crime. They 444 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: can't because they won't. They won't because they can't. We've 445 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: discussed this many times. Doesn't matter which one you want 446 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: to put first, the chicken or the egg, the answer 447 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: is still the same. They can't. So stop voting for democrats. 448 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: Have to stop voting for democrats, and cities on cities 449 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: that can actually run, that can actually produce and provide something, 450 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: which is safety, security and of course trash removal. But 451 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: if this is the argument that Dan Goldman wants to 452 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: go down and make look at me, look how strong, 453 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: look how tough? Oh my gosh, man, go waste your time. 454 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: And there's a clear purpose here. 455 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 6: It is not to take criminals off the street and 456 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 6: deport them. Seventy percent of immigration detainees to this point 457 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 6: have no criminal record. The people that they arrested yesterday, 458 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,239 Speaker 6: they didn't know who they were. They certainly didn't know 459 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 6: whether they had a criminal record. This is a militarized 460 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 6: effort to incite tension, passion, and inflame the communities in 461 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 6: New York City and elsewhere. 462 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: And it is what communities are you talking about, Dan Goldman, 463 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: what community you really think we should concern ourselves with 464 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: the community that supports the illegal immigrant law breakers. We 465 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: should be concerned with the law breaking community. I'm interested 466 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: in New Yorkers. I mean, they've worked to the extent 467 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: I'm interested in New Yorkers. I want them to have 468 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: a life that's safe and secure by getting rid of 469 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: people who are here illegally, deporting them, or dealing with 470 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: them in their criminal conduct, if indeed there is criminal 471 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: conduct outside of just breaking the law by entering the 472 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: country illegally. This is Dan Goleman engaged in classic progressive division. 473 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: Who does this work on. 474 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 6: Purely a pretext to incite violence so that this administration 475 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 6: can then say that it needs to bring in the 476 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 6: military to stop violence that they have created. And you 477 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 6: will hear from Murad who was there yesterday and witnessed 478 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 6: the immigration officers starting the violence and citing violence against 479 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 6: citizens who were protesting. 480 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: The excessive use of force. Canal Street is a busy street. 481 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 6: This is not how you conduct an operation designed to 482 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 6: be targeted at criminal undocumented immigrants. 483 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: First, they're legal immigrants. Secondly, how do you know? I mean, 484 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: he has a history as a prosecutor and all these things. 485 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: But in the end, what specifically do you know or 486 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: were you informed about policies and procedures and tactics and 487 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: strategies on Canal Street. I'm asking. I'm not saying that 488 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: you can't have a thought about it. Anybody can have 489 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: a thought about it. Saying why is he saying that 490 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: this isn't how you do it? How would he know? 491 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: This is not how you conduct an operation designed to 492 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: be targeted at criminal and documented immigrants. You mean illegal imigrants, 493 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: Dear lord. Of course you don't know what you're talking about. 494 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: You can't even say the words properly. Oh good lord. 495 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 6: If that's what this administration wants to do, I would 496 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,959 Speaker 6: be eager to work with them. But that is the 497 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 6: opposite of what they're doing. 498 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: And they started here at. 499 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 6: Twenty six Federal Plaza a number of months ago. They 500 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 6: have continued to yank people out of courtrooms who have 501 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 6: active asylum cases, which is a lawful way to immigrate 502 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 6: to this country, and they are arresting them without due process, 503 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 6: sending them to Texas and Louisiana in for profit prisons, 504 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 6: and then deporting them without proper due process. 505 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: Trump and the administration keep winning in the courts on 506 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: these subjects, and where they the court wants to hold 507 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: them up, they fight that in the courts. So this 508 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: idea of no due process is a nonsense. The due 509 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: process is certainly in these asylum cases, which are not 510 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: asylum cases that get heard. The idea that there's no 511 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: due process is simply a falsehood. Also, non citizens don't 512 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: have the same due process that citizens do, and isn't 513 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: it amazing that they have any due process at all? 514 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: My god, we're an amazing country. We should also note 515 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: the amount of people who came here legally who are 516 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: disgusted by the people who come here illegally and discussed 517 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: with people like Representative Dan Goldman who don't give a 518 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: damn about their sacrifice at all. 519 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 6: Now they are coming to the streets of New York City, 520 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 6: and they are doing it intentionally. They are doing it 521 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 6: to tear arise New Yorkers, to terrorize our communities, to 522 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 6: install fear in New Yorkers. It is unacceptable and it 523 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 6: must stop. This is not immigration enforcement. This is lawless 524 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 6: terror designed to incite violence, to create a pretext for 525 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 6: Donald Trump to send the military into New York City. 526 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: And I, good gosh, is this is this really the 527 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: talking point? Donald Trump wants the military in New York, 528 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: military in DC, military in Chico. If you wanted the military, 529 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't have you done that in DC? They didn't even 530 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: do that. The talking point doesn't connect to the reality 531 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: because the talking point is Trump bad, hate Trump. Look 532 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: at me, I'm hating Trump and calling Trump bad. It 533 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,719 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the reality of the problem. 534 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: He won't even admit to the problem, and that in 535 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: and of itself is the problem. We should be keeping 536 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: an eye on all law enforcement and whether or not 537 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: they're following the letter of the law, whether they're engaged 538 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: in abuses of power. And we should take the people 539 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: who are engaged in abuses of power, and we should 540 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: throw them in jail, local law enforcement, ice, it doesn't matter. 541 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: But we shouldn't engage the utilization of the laws on 542 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: the books to deal with those who have broken the 543 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: law by entering the country. And if we do, that's 544 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: terrorizing communities. Stop it just silly talk from a silly man. 545 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: That's what Dan Goldman is. I'm Tony Katz. This is 546 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 547 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 5: My action for the Secretary aganelics your Secretary, I don't 548 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 5: know if you see this, but pulling out of Ukraine 549 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 5: shows a massive collapse in Ukraine's or. 550 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 4: For the war, a Gallipo head of just twenty three. 551 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: Percent, that's less than a quarter. 552 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 3: Selenski came up to a praising President trust proposal for 553 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 3: freezing the front lines of battle as a part. 554 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 4: Of the ceasefire. 555 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 8: He said, it's a good compromise. 556 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 6: So people view you were coming here as you know, 557 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 6: you're bobbying the US government to continue it's. 558 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 5: Involved in the war. You're obviously lobbing for more NATO 559 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 5: weapons to be said to Ukraine. 560 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 4: But Ukrainians themselves don't want to fight the war. 561 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: So how do you justify that? Morally? 562 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 8: I would love being only for one thing and that 563 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 8: is to make sure that's your end this war. 564 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 1: And I don't I gotta say, I think that question 565 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: is dubious. You're coming asking for more weapons so NATO 566 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: can properly defend Ukraine. Ukrainians only one in four, less 567 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: than one in four want to fight this thing. Why 568 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: are you doing Why are you doing this? How? Why 569 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: are you acting immorlly? That's that. I don't think that's 570 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 1: the case. I mean, no, no matter your position on Ukraine, 571 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, 572 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 1: good to be with you. I did want to hear 573 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: how it is that the Secretary of General responded while 574 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: I sitting next to Donald Trump in the oval, but 575 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: just wanted to break down that question is. I don't 576 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: think that's really the question is to. 577 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 8: Make sure that's the end this war. And I don't 578 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 8: have to loby the president because we totally agree on this, 579 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 8: and this is what he has been doing from day one, 580 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 8: everything he could do to break the death focus poutin, 581 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 8: get a dialogue, going dialoguing also with Zelenski and getting 582 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 8: this war done. It's crucial. And the fact that the 583 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 8: US is now supplying weapons into Ukraine paid for their 584 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 8: allies is actually important, and that's now happening since two 585 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 8: three months. 586 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: President Trump then chimed in and said, we're not actually 587 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 1: selling the weapons to Ukraine. We're selling the weapons to NATO. 588 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: And if you're NATO, you're preparing for what Russia does next, 589 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: no matter what the Ukrainians feel about the thing. So 590 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: I thought the question was a little dubious. Is it 591 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: NATO that's trying to prolong the war? I don't see 592 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: it like that, and I don't think we should, but 593 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 1: rather a recognition that Russia has no plans of stopping 594 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: one way or the other. Find everything at Tony Katz 595 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: dot com tomorrow. Everyone take care