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Speaker 1: They sei sed a fan morning show with KB jab

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Speaker 1: and Jeff.

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Speaker 2: From multiple sources, forty four year old Philip Rivers is

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Speaker 2: signing to the quarterback needy Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 3: Hey, hey, I've seen this one.

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Speaker 1: I've seen this one.

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Speaker 4: It's a classic for me.

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Speaker 1: You've seen this it's brand new. Yeah, I saw it

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Speaker 1: on the week rerun to rerun the.

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Speaker 5: Forty four year old Grandfather.

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Speaker 6: I was definitely a little surprise. I mean, but if

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Speaker 6: there is one guy to call.

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Speaker 4: Who can do something like this, it's definitely.

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Speaker 3: Hill to be leading the Colts into the playoffs, take

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Speaker 3: to a super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: You can do it.

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Speaker 5: Get that old as.

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Speaker 3: Yours, indian Zo, we gotta wind.

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Speaker 4: It feels a little desperate to me.

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Speaker 2: You're forty four, bro.

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Speaker 4: Get rid of the rock.

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Speaker 7: You're not olden gold double pump, and you ain't fast

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Speaker 7: enough to get out of the pocket.

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Speaker 6: Let that thing go reallyten, I mean, who knows what

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Speaker 6: Phil's kp lot? You know you know I'm gonna say

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Speaker 6: a super Bowl. You know that's my real estate. Yes,

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Speaker 6: we're still into singing.

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Speaker 2: We are very much collised.

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Speaker 3: Just now, old man got time.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Michael Pittman is optimistic and bullsh on everything and welcome

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Speaker 2: into the twilight zone, in which Indiana football's the number

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Speaker 2: one Ranke team in the nation. Philip Rivers is coming

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Speaker 2: back from a five year hiatus to possibly play for

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Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts. We had an Assembly Hall scoring record

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Speaker 2: last night for Indiana for dude trying to get back

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Speaker 2: on track against Minnesota later on tonight. Other than that,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing happening in our world. James Boyd, How was

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Speaker 2: it over at West fifty six yesterday? My friend?

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Speaker 5: No trip over there just yet. We'll go over there

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Speaker 5: for the first time today this week to see Uncle

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Speaker 5: Phil out on the practice squad. But Kevin, you noted

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Speaker 5: this immediately. There was no practice today, and then the

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Speaker 5: report of signing of Phili Rivers happened, and there was

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Speaker 5: a practice today. So I'm guessing the ben Gay got

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Speaker 5: busted out. He's rubbing it on the shoulder and he's

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Speaker 5: got to get ready to go.

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Speaker 3: Do we call him Grunkle Phil, Grandpa uncle together or

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Speaker 3: are we sticking with Uncle Phil? Uncle Phil obviously sounds better.

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Speaker 3: If he's three and out, he's gramps. If he scores

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Speaker 3: a touchdown driving, he's Uncle Phil.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 2: Ah, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 5: Would actually agree with this. Uncle Scores the Grandpa washed,

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Speaker 5: this is Philip Rivers' life.

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Speaker 3: We don't have time for Wednesday walkthroughs anymore. We gotta

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Speaker 3: get on the practice field. So yes, the Colts have

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Speaker 3: changed up their practice schedule in the aftermath of Philip Rivers' arrival.

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Speaker 3: So they will go back to early season practice today,

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Speaker 3: practice tomorrow, practice Friday, among the changes. So, boy, it

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Speaker 3: is he's no Allen Harveson. Yeah, that is an understatement,

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Speaker 3: there it is. It's amazing.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: You can call it entertaining, call it frightening, call it desperate,

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Speaker 3: call it genius. But here we are Philip Freakin' Rivers,

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Speaker 3: and I expect him to start on Sunday. I know

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Speaker 3: that's the question that a lot of people have asks,

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Speaker 3: But I don't think Philip River.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you just need a smoke break from his ten

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Speaker 3: kid household, but I don't think you hop on a

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Speaker 3: plane and get all the way up here to hold

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Speaker 3: a Microsoft surface and scratch the back of Brett Rippon.

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Speaker 2: Mark. I'll know this. Phil's got three kids crawling all

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Speaker 2: over him, and he hasn't had a break in six

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Speaker 2: and a half weeks. And he gets that phone call,

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Speaker 2: and before Shamestikeing and Chris Paller coun even finish what

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Speaker 2: they're saying, He's like, when can.

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Speaker 9: You get me on the plane. Yes, let's go, I'll

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Speaker 9: do it for free. Yes, I'll be there.

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Speaker 5: Well, I guess the proof of this is at first

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Speaker 5: the reported tryout was supposed to be Tuesday, and then

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Speaker 5: it comes out, oh no, he was here Monday. So

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Speaker 5: to your point, Jeff got rid of the family pretty quick.

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Speaker 2: Are on time. Usually. What if I told you on August.

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Speaker 3: Tenth, Philip Rivers will start more games Thannapolis Colts this

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Speaker 3: year than Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 2: I would think you smacked your head relatively hard. I

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Speaker 2: would think that you would you would be in concussion

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Speaker 2: protocol at that point in time.

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Speaker 5: I would think that you have done another drug deal

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Speaker 5: in the parking lot like you did for the Rick

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Speaker 5: Carlisle T shirt.

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Speaker 4: Again.

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Speaker 5: Oh boy, Yeah, I definitely would be questioning things. But

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Speaker 5: at this point I think I come round to it.

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Speaker 5: I wrote this yesterday and it actually went live this

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Speaker 5: morning when I was walking in. But I don't necessarily

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Speaker 5: view this through the same out of the box lens

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Speaker 5: as of Jeff Saturday hiring. I know he mentioned that.

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Speaker 5: I believe he went on the Rich eisen So yesterday

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Speaker 5: and he said, oh, this is like me walking in there. No,

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Speaker 5: it is not. Granted you had no coaching experience at

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Speaker 5: the pro college level. At least Philip Rivers has played

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Speaker 5: in the NFL. He does no several of the teams

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Speaker 5: two decades, several of the teammates actually because they're still playing.

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Speaker 5: So from that perspective, there's football reasons. I can squint

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Speaker 5: my eyes and say, okay, I you can see where

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Speaker 5: he's what you're trying to do. Where the Jeff Saturday

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Speaker 5: one was like this will never work. So this might

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Speaker 5: not ever work either, but at least, again football reasons,

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Speaker 5: there are some.

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Speaker 2: You asked the question yesterday, Kevin, which I think is

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Speaker 2: really the key question, like what what is Shane Stiken

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Speaker 2: going to get out of all of these guys that

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Speaker 2: he might be looking for his potential starting quarterbacks in

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Speaker 2: this particular circumstance where you're either going to go get

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Speaker 2: a guy off the street that's not a starting level

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Speaker 2: quarterback anyway, and the guy that you have that you

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Speaker 2: could elevate, you're not clearly all that confident as somebody

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Speaker 2: wrote on Twitter yesterday, like I feel offended for r

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Speaker 2: at ripping right now, But my point is you're Shane Steiken.

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Speaker 2: You're sitting there, You're trying to figure out what in

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Speaker 2: the world are we going to do. You've been having

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Speaker 2: these weekly conversations about your offense with a guy who

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Speaker 2: has run your offense in the past, and what is

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Speaker 2: Shane Steiken? You asked the question yesterday, what's Shane Styke?

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Speaker 2: And looking for somebody who can just operate his offense

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Speaker 2: right now? Can he stand up to the physical riggers

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Speaker 2: of the NFL. We don't know any of that. What's

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Speaker 2: the arm looked like after five years? Don't know, But cerebrally, intellectually,

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Speaker 2: at least Shane Steiken knows I could get I can

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Speaker 2: get a guy under center there that when he gets

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Speaker 2: what that defense wants to do, and knows exactly where

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Speaker 2: my guys are going to be. That's where you're at.

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Speaker 3: Right Yeah, the question just changes once that ball snapped. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: look the colt I'm talking. I'm just saying that that's

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Speaker 3: not the process. The Coltran is one of the more

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Speaker 3: dire situations. I've ever seen it the last time I

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Speaker 3: look at the quarterback depth chart like I look at

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Speaker 3: it right now. And fittingly, we'll have Jack Doyle join

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Speaker 3: us at eight o'clock. Former teammate of course of Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 5: I believe he was the last guy to catch a

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Speaker 2: In that building game, right playoff game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so Jack Doyle was a part of the Colts

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Speaker 3: the year. I'm gonna guess fifteen or sixteen BC. Yes,

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Speaker 3: certainly when they went combo quarterback in a game, they

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Speaker 3: then they went Ryan Linley for the two minut offense.

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Speaker 3: So literally they spent a week training one quarterback of

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Speaker 3: you run our basic offense. Other guy, you run the

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Speaker 3: two minute offense. This is the only other time I

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Speaker 3: can consider it as dire. And of course I say

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Speaker 3: that because torn a chillies for Dana Jones, Anthony richardson

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Speaker 3: orbital fracture not playing Riley Leonard assuming he can't go.

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Speaker 3: That's probably the one little dangling news item we have

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Speaker 3: here Wednesday morning of is Riley Leonard truly out for

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Speaker 3: Sunday again. As we said quite often yesterday, a knee

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Speaker 3: injury to a quarterback that needs his legs significantly to

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Speaker 3: like Riley Leonard playing quarterback and Philip Rivers playing quarterback,

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Speaker 3: are two different guys in terms of their legs. Philip

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Speaker 3: Rivers played a playoff game on a torn acl. Riley

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Speaker 3: Leonard's not playing a game on a torn acl. Nothing

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Speaker 3: gets his toughness, but that's just not how he is

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Speaker 3: as a quarterback. So yes, Jeff, to answer your question,

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Speaker 3: I guess they are going peak cerebral. They are going

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Speaker 3: we are two football nerds that know this offense better

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Speaker 3: than anything you could ever imagine. And when Seattle shows

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Speaker 3: us this, we're gonna sit in this meeting room on

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Speaker 3: and it's gonna work.

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Speaker 2: Of course, what happens.

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Speaker 3: When eleven dudes in blue jerseys and forty five degrees

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Speaker 3: spitting rain in one of the most hostile environments in

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Speaker 3: has alloted eight touchdown in two weeks. A taxi quarterback

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Speaker 3: that hasn't thrown a pass in eighteen hundred days.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was looking at this, well, yea throwing a pass.

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Speaker 5: Don't sell my boy short. Now he's been down there

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Speaker 5: in Fair Hope, Alabama, throwing it around with the high

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Speaker 5: school kids, like is a Disney movie. So he's ready

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Speaker 2: But this will be a Disney movie.

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Speaker 5: It could be uh, you know, it'll be a lesson

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Speaker 3: We might want to go back to the Disney Channel

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Speaker 3: very quiday if this doesn't go well exactly, but Bluie

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Speaker 5: But to your point about what he could be up against,

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Speaker 5: we had to go back and look at this. The

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Speaker 5: Seattle Seahawks have only allowed nine points in the last

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Speaker 5: two weeks combined, and they forced eight turnovers. That is

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Speaker 2: But I guess, ultimately, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: So so I did see and James, I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you saw somewhere I thought I saw jol A

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Speaker 3: Ericsson mention his story. They tried to sign Sam Ellinger

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Speaker 3: off of Denver's practice squad. You refuse, right, So yeah,

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Speaker 3: and you know, if you're Ellinger, let's play that out.

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Speaker 3: You have a chance to be a starting quarterback in

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Speaker 3: the NFL, and you say no, I mean that's that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's but I also quite the.

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Speaker 3: Statement of like, wow, what you think of the Colts situation? Now,

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Speaker 3: if you're Ellinger, you had your cup of coffee here,

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Speaker 3: you did start for this franchise. You are being thrown

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Speaker 3: into quite the disadvantage, this advantageous. I have no idea

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Speaker 3: how to even say that. Not a great scenario is

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Speaker 3: probably the simplest way to put it. And with Denver,

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Speaker 3: But you know, those are the types of conversations we've had.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we read off the practice squad quarterback list yesterday.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a dire, dire group. So yeah, from.

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Speaker 2: What I understand too, the Cults are not the first

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Speaker 3: Would you rather watch Tyler Warren play wildcat or Philip

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Speaker 5: That was one of your more clairvoyant moments.

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Speaker 3: I thought to myself, you know, what stranger things have happened.

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Speaker 2: It's ninety three five and one oh seven five to

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Speaker 2: Well, you'll have your opportunity Sunday afternoon for twenty five

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Speaker 2: Colts at Seahawks. Now, keep in mind we'll have some

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Speaker 2: We'll also talk about college basketball Mark Dyakon. Last night,

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Speaker 5: that was some bad Big tim basketball. I'm used to

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Speaker 3: There are moments you watch Indiana and you think that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what they've had here, scheduleized at Kentucky on Saturday,

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Speaker 2: As you mentioned, Kevin, they'll play Kentucky coming up on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: The worst news of the week for Notre Dame was what.

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Speaker 2: Being left out of the college football playoff.

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Speaker 4: You're wrong.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're wrong, Jeff. What is it Marcus Burton?

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Speaker 3: Marcus Burton surgery again?

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Speaker 2: You are on brand consistent multiple months months. Mic One

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Speaker 5: Like I said, he's an Indiana kid. I watched him

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's time to be done. Gotta move on by

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Speaker 5: Sue.

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Speaker 3: You get a twenty four hour window to bitch and moan.

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Speaker 3: I did it Monday. They stop.

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Speaker 5: No, No, it's time to sue.

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Speaker 2: Move on.

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Speaker 5: Let's get on with a lot of get.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait.

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Speaker 3: Big game tonight, Notre Dame Idaho, Jalen Harrelson, It's time.

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Speaker 2: I know Indianda Pacers last night, but two games in

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Speaker 3: What was this going?

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Speaker 2: Once one seventeen one on one.

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Speaker 5: One o one, Oh, they were rolling on together.

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Speaker 5: This year's wide opening the East without Halli, Burdon and

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Speaker 3: So yes, yeah, Ali Burton was on that Amazon Prime

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna lie.

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Speaker 2: If you're looking for something to do late night after

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Speaker 3: Michigan Villanova game, Dusty Mays. Boys, Oh my gosh, they

442
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Speaker 3: are running dudes out of the gym. They are legit.

443
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Speaker 3: I know we've talked so much about Purdue in the

444
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Speaker 3: Big Ten this year. At Michigan bunch, Mmmm, that looked

445
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Speaker 3: really good.

446
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Speaker 2: Was it?

447
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Speaker 3: B Yu the one on the buzz and the buzzer

448
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 3: beater Ajda Banta looked awesome in front of I would

449
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Speaker 3: assume a lot of NBA eyes.

450
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Speaker 5: I looked at him and I was like, man, he

451
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Speaker 5: wouldn't look bad in the PACER's uniform. But they won

452
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Speaker 5: too many games now to really be again.

453
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Speaker 3: Lottery odds don't change for the first four picks.

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Speaker 5: This is true, But I don't even know if the

455
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Speaker 5: Pacers will have a top four worst record. They're rolling

456
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Speaker 5: right now.

457
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Speaker 3: Having four six.

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Speaker 2: Did you guys see any of those reports servicing out

459
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Speaker 2: there that the Pacers could be looking to trade for

460
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Speaker 2: a center.

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Speaker 5: You see SAMs Sharania ESPN, the NBA Insider, But uh yeah,

462
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Speaker 5: I was too busy looking at Uncle Phil's like, not now,

463
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Speaker 5: Sam's we got real news to take care of.

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Speaker 2: You're the first guy in history that said put a

465
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Speaker 2: finger up, said not now, Shams. All right, Jack Doyle

466
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Speaker 2: coming up top of the hour, we'll talk to him

467
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Speaker 2: about Phil Rivers coming back. He knows a little bit

468
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Speaker 2: about Phil Rivers, and we'll take more of your thoughts

469
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Speaker 2: and phone calls throughout the morning at nine ten seventy.

470
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Speaker 2: Also on the text line two three, nine ten seventy,

471
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Speaker 2: it's all straight at oh, it's a new anthem for

472
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Speaker 2: over forties everywhere. Philip Rivers getting up off his film

473
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Speaker 2: room study from high school football, where he's been coaching

474
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Speaker 2: the same offense. Kevin Weekly Conversations about the nuances and

475
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Speaker 2: the wrinkles of the offense with Shane Steichen without those

476
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Speaker 2: weekly phone calls. Are we here today? Mark?

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Speaker 3: You think the Seahawks should announce the Colts on Sunday

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Speaker 3: with that song played?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I would?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 3: In the Super Bowl, don't they pick like a song

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Speaker 3: from your home state or your home area. Maybe the

483
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Speaker 3: Seahawks should do that, you know, instead of bring them out,

484
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Speaker 3: bring them out or you know.

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Speaker 5: What's the underthinker theme song? Just play that when the

486
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Speaker 5: Seahawks go out to take the field.

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Speaker 9: That might be what they play after the game right

488
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Speaker 9: halftime the Colt first quarter Brick.

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Speaker 3: Colts did bring in another quarterback yesterday besides grunkle Phil,

490
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Speaker 3: and I had never heard of this due before yesterday.

491
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Speaker 3: Seth Hen again? Am I saying that?

492
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Speaker 2: Right? Don't know?

493
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Speaker 3: Undrafted free agent out of Memphis. He spent time with

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Speaker 3: the Jacksonville Jaguars during the offseason and I believe the

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Speaker 3: first month of the season on.

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Speaker 2: Their practice squad.

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Speaker 3: So from an official in person, eyes on dudes that

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Speaker 3: play quarterback? Philip rivers at forty four and Seth Hen

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Speaker 3: again at twenty four or however the whole the hell

500
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Speaker 3: old he is?

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 3: But nothing with Hen again. So as of right now, Wednesday,

503
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Speaker 3: they'll practice here in a few hours. Phil Rivers, Brett Rippin,

504
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Speaker 3: your two healthy quarterbacks. Will see about Riley Leonard.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at it right now. The Seahawks are now

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Speaker 2: thirteen and a half point favorites James Boyd.

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Speaker 3: It's a rising number. It was three and a half

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Speaker 3: this time last week.

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Speaker 5: I just checked our athletic playoff simulator or model, and

510
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Speaker 5: they project that the cultivate twenty chance to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: I wonder if that changes good or bad when Uncle Phil.

512
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Speaker 5: If Uncle Phil gets activated for the game.

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Speaker 3: You can pick one of the four words to describe

514
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Speaker 3: this move one of the four desperate, entertaining, frightening, genius, entertaining, desperate,

515
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Speaker 3: entertaining well.

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Speaker 2: For I guess for a morning show, it's greatly entertaining.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 9: I mean, even the second half of that Jaguars game.

519
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Speaker 9: I was checking out because I'm like, what is this

520
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Speaker 9: season about to be? And I'm thinking, like long term future.

521
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Speaker 2: And all that.

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Speaker 4: Right, give you a little bit.

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Speaker 9: Riley Leonard didn't didn't, but he wasn't awful. Didn't he

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Speaker 9: didn't get my juices flowing. I'll say that.

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Speaker 3: High standard here, Mark, I'm man, some of us you

526
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Speaker 3: guys got to take a week and get Hiah.

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Speaker 9: He's seeing great quarterback play this season, and I'm just

528
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Speaker 9: seeing I'm seeing, I'm seeing Riley Leonard. I'm like, oh boy,

529
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Speaker 9: now now when Daniel Jones, sure, what's that look like?

530
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Speaker 9: Cold Stone two first round picks? So I said, oh boy,

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Speaker 9: this seems circling the drain. But then if you're telling

532
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Speaker 9: me Philip Rivers, who I always liked Philip Rivers in

533
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Speaker 9: his career and everything like that, If you tell me

534
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Speaker 9: I get one more spin at Philip Rivers, one more

535
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Speaker 9: for the old guys as I've hit forty year old

536
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Speaker 9: Mark myself. Hell yeah, I want to see Philip Rivers

537
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Speaker 9: do it if he thinks he can go out there

538
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Speaker 9: and spin it. Sure, I am more intrigued on this

539
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Speaker 9: game than I would have been head ry Leylondard been

540
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Speaker 9: named the.

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Speaker 3: Storm more intrigued. What about optimistic?

542
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Speaker 9: I am optimistic. Sure you can still sling it. I

543
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Speaker 9: think how optimistic are you? Let me ask you a question.

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Speaker 2: If you want you want big odds, Mark, if you're

545
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Speaker 2: confident and optimistic, you can get plus seven fifty for

546
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Speaker 2: Rivers just to throw for two hundred and fifty yards

547
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Speaker 2: or more plus seven fifty make seventy five bucks on

548
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Speaker 2: a ten dollars bet if he can get this two

549
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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I would probably feel more confident in that

551
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Speaker 9: if he wasn't playing the Seattle defense. But I think

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Speaker 9: he will. I don't think he's going to be horrendous.

553
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Speaker 9: I don't think he I think he's gonna show that

554
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Speaker 9: he's still got his faculties and stuff. I don't expect

555
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Speaker 9: him to run for thirty yards or anything, but I

556
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Speaker 9: think he'll. They have to have seen something. I don't

557
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Speaker 9: think they're just like, well, we're friends with Shane Stich

558
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Speaker 9: and we're just gonna throw it against the wall and

559
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Speaker 9: see what happens. I think they had He had to have

560
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Speaker 9: shown them something.

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Speaker 2: Right, are we?

562
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Speaker 9: Are we that desperate where like this he can't even

563
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Speaker 9: throw a ten yard out route that you're like, still

564
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Speaker 9: sign him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean they obviously worked him out on Monday, Mark,

567
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Speaker 3: but you throwing a football to coleman Owen and the

568
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Speaker 3: Colts indoor facility on a Monday evening against nobody is

569
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Speaker 3: a lot lot different than a third and eight throwing

570
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Speaker 3: the ball with Devin Witherspoon and coverage in forty eight degrees,

571
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Speaker 3: spitting rain weather against the defense that hasn't allowed a

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Speaker 3: touchdown in two weeks.

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Speaker 9: So I'm also not Philip Rivers. That's dropping kids left

574
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Speaker 9: and right. So I mean, he's got skills I don't have.

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Speaker 3: You can almost you can only see so much on

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Speaker 3: a Monday, Like, there's an element of.

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Speaker 2: It's a disservice to the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Frankly, if you're going to try to compare, you know, James,

579
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Speaker 3: I know she's your colleague. But Dana Russini tweeting yesterday

580
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Speaker 3: about the player source or whatever it was, what was

581
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Speaker 3: the exact quote he said.

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Speaker 5: I got to pull this off. I'm glad you brought

583
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Speaker 5: this up because look, I love my teammates. But I'm like, gee,

584
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Speaker 5: I mean, come on here, it is because I actually

585
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Speaker 5: quote tweeted her. She said, a source close to Philip

586
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Speaker 5: Rivers describes a player who looks in better shape now

587
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Speaker 5: than when he played, and then there's a quote that

588
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Speaker 5: says it's a no brainer for who gives him the

589
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Speaker 5: best chance. I don't necessarily doubt that part of it.

590
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Speaker 5: I'm thinking, hey, okay, injured Ry Leonard with a leg

591
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Speaker 5: that he can't run on old Philip Rivers who has

592
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Speaker 5: a Hall of Fame resume, or Brett Rippon. I'm like, yeah,

593
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Speaker 5: he might actually give him the best chance. And then

594
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Speaker 5: she says, expect the heavy dose of Jonathan Taylor and

595
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Speaker 5: the Colts his ground game to support the forty four

596
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Speaker 5: year old Rivers.

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Speaker 2: There'll be a lot of loaded time.

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Speaker 5: I mean, yes, what was the quote again? Give it

599
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Speaker 5: to you one more time. A source close to Philip

600
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Speaker 5: Rivers describes a player who looks in better shape now

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Speaker 5: than when he played.

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Speaker 9: This man is on the Hall of Fame ballot for

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Speaker 9: twenty twenty six. I just want to say this because

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Speaker 9: this is I had to tweet out. I love you, Diana.

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Speaker 9: You do great work where you have shared many bylines

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Speaker 9: together or less week. Really, anytime you hear.

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Speaker 5: A player is in better shape than when they last played,

608
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Speaker 5: or when a player says I'm in the best shape

609
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Speaker 5: of my life, they're cooked. Every time I hear that quote,

610
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Speaker 5: I'm like, oh boy, the antenna's go up. This guy

611
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Speaker 5: can't play because I'm like, why would you be in

612
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Speaker 5: better shape now than when you actually play the game

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Speaker 5: of football? That makes zero sense? And you're older thirty

614
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Speaker 5: nine is a big difference between forty four. I've never

615
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Speaker 5: experienced it myself, not yet, at.

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Speaker 2: Least in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, yes, absolutely so I had to laugh at that.

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Speaker 5: That was funny.

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Speaker 3: Well, in one element to you know, Mark, you you

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Speaker 3: you mentioned Okay river soon.

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Speaker 5: Sip phil is jacked up on the spirit of the

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Speaker 5: Lord that he is.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that he is.

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Speaker 3: Hey, hey man, brother, look at the man that might

625
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Speaker 3: that might hoist the Heisman Trophy on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: I say he will throw the.

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Speaker 5: Rock with righteousness and clarity.

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Speaker 3: Probably you know what is in the YouTube in the

629
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Speaker 3: season of Heyesus. You never know how that could turn out,

630
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Speaker 3: you know, Mark man it mentions like okay, managing the operation.

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Speaker 3: You know, Philip is gonna know when whatever enough enough.

632
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 3: He's not gonna screw it up. He's not just gonna

633
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Speaker 3: throw the ball to the other team constantly, et cetera,

634
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 3: et cetera. I do think one element, probably the most

635
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Speaker 3: consistent best attribute to the twenty twenty five Colts is

636
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Speaker 3: significantly hurt with starting Philip ever Sunday, and that's Alec Pierce.

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Speaker 3: You know how much a lot of thirty yard I

638
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Speaker 3: shots cannot envision that you might have to have nine

639
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 3: people saying the block to get the ball down the field.

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Speaker 3: And then that's the question I'd have with with Rivers

641
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Speaker 3: if like there was a lot in that twenty twenty

642
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Speaker 3: season where he just sliced and diced and singles and

643
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Speaker 3: move onund is over, etc.

644
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: Etc.

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00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 3: Just a lot of just death by a thousand paper cuts.

646
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Speaker 3: But for some reason, the final drive in Buffalo is

647
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 3: kind of sticking out to me. When the Colts needed

648
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 3: him to throw second third level balls, it didn't happen,

649
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 3: and the arm just wasn't at NFL life, And who knows,

650
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Speaker 3: maybe five years of resting the thing in the backyard

651
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 3: all of a sudden has revived it. But you know,

652
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 3: when it went for Matt Ryan and went in a hurry,

653
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: when it went for Peyton Manning and went in a hurry.

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Speaker 3: I just don't envision five years all of a sudden

655
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Speaker 3: turning that arm into I can write checks.

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Speaker 2: That you know I couldn't five years ago. So here's

657
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Speaker 2: the thing that I was thinking about last night. And

658
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Speaker 2: think about when your kid and used to play on

659
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Speaker 2: like the Merry go Round, right, and you try to

660
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Speaker 2: get going as fast as you could in fourth fifth grade, right,

661
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Speaker 2: so you could see if everybody could stay on, could

662
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: you jump on it while it was going really fast.

663
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: When you're on the carousel and you're hanging on, you're

664
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: kind of at that speed, right right, Okay, Once you

665
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: get off and then try to get back on, that's

666
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: a whole different deal, right, like this analogy, and it's

667
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: kind of I think that's what Philip Rivers is. Looking

668
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 2: at the speed of an NFL game, even though you've

669
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: experienced before, you are already on that carousel for the

670
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: entirety of your career. You've been off that carousel for

671
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: a while. Now you are charged with jumping back on

672
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 2: at the same speed. That's what I worry about, because

673
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: you know, you guys know him better than anybody. What's

674
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: the one thing all players talk about when they're first

675
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: acclimating themselves, even rookies in the prime of their life.

676
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: It's the speed of the game that you're not ready

677
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: for again. And my worry is, even though he spent

678
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: seventeen years in the NFL, eighteen years in the NFL,

679
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: whatever it was, to take five years off and then

680
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: come back and then try to play again at that speed,

681
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: that's my biggest concern for him. Yeah, I could not

682
00:30:58,640 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: agree more. Mark.

683
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 5: That was great, Jeff, great analogy, Mark, a great way

684
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 5: to pick up the analogy and give us some audio

685
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 5: representation there. But to your point, I think, in a

686
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 5: nutshell what you just said, Jeff is it is very

687
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 5: hard to make up for five years of missed football

688
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 5: time with three days of practice, and you can't get

689
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 5: hit in practice. So as much as you want to

690
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 5: try to give game like reps, if anybody come close

691
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 5: to Phill the Rivers, they're getting cut. He's our last hope.

692
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: Potentially he's got two red jerseys on I know.

693
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, so, I mean anyways.

694
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: Well, he'd be playing with one of the protective covers

695
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: on the helmets Sunday too. He's the other thing we

696
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: see all the time, you know. I was. I was

697
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 2: watching the game with Patrick Mahomes last week and they

698
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: were talking about how he's still the fastest guy getting

699
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: rid of the football, right Brady used to They all

700
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: talked about how Brady could get rid of the football

701
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: in one point four seconds on every play average whatever.

702
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers better get rid of the football in less

703
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: than a second and a half, don't you think, James.

704
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would lean towards your angle on that.

705
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: Man. Oh man, it will be entertaining on Sunday if

706
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: he does indeed start at quarterback. And I am I

707
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: get it, I understand it. I can kind of get

708
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: on board with it. But I think there's a lot

709
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: of downside to it too.

710
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 3: Kevin, Yeah, I mean there's a downside in any move

711
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 3: when you have your first three quarterbacks are hurt. So,

712
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: you know, we got into this debate a little bit yesterday.

713
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: You know, we had several people reach out and say,

714
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 3: this is embarrassing. And to me, embarrassing is you know,

715
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: not winning the easiest division the AFC for ten years

716
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 3: and one of the longest playoff drouts in the NFL

717
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: currently and the longest franchise is experienced in thirty years,

718
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 3: and you know two and eight against the Texans and

719
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 3: the Jaguars over the last three years, and that to

720
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 3: me is embarrassing. Right now, you are desperate, I mean

721
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: that is a like you can make the case when

722
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: they fired Frank Reich and hire Jeff Saturday, they weren't desperate.

723
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 4: James.

724
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 3: I forget what the record exactly was, but I believe

725
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 3: it was five hundred or like, right, there. They were

726
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 3: still in it at that point of the season, and

727
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 3: you still had over half of the year left.

728
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 5: Right when they hired Jeff Saturday, Yeah, they were three

729
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 5: five and one.

730
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,719
Speaker 3: Was it three five to one? For yeah, for some

731
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: reason I thought it was three three four one.

732
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 5: But no, you're fine, Like I always messed it up

733
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 5: because they were three two one one. Then they slide

734
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 5: two games and then you go from there. The big

735
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 5: man said, bring me my former center as the coach.

736
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 3: You know, this to me is a when you are

737
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: at week fifteen of the season and you're one two

738
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 3: three on the quarterback death chart, is hurt, the trade

739
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: deadline is over. You have reportedly, I guess guys on

740
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 3: other practice squads declining to join your team. There's only

741
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 3: so much you can do. I mean, right now, we

742
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: are literally debating Brett Rippan or Philip Rivers. That's pretty

743
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 3: much what we're debating. And again to fill people in

744
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: on who Brett ripping is join the cult practice squad

745
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: and the days after Anthony Richardson got hurt, has been

746
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 3: with the team for two months, hasn't thrown a pass

747
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 3: in the NFL game since twenty twenty three, and has

748
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 3: started a handful of games in his career.

749
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 5: Four games, well, four starts two and two is a

750
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 5: starter old is he twenty nine nine? But for his

751
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 5: career he's thrown four touchdown passes and nine interceptions.

752
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: So that's what you are pretty much debating.

753
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 5: Should they start the Battle Seahawk at one point.

754
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 3: Or should they start Philip Rivers Bless you, Mark.

755
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: Thank you. Check the text line two through ninety ten seventy,

756
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: Mike A says, and he's got pictures for proof. No

757
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 2: boy bought four tickets to this game in September. This

758
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 2: was in line to be one of the best games

759
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 2: of the NFL season before we went on the losing

760
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 2: streak and lost. DJ me and three friends go to

761
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 2: one away game every year. This is about to be

762
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: a long flight home, although he described it a different way.

763
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 2: Keep us in your prayers, lol.

764
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 3: I do think it's one of the best atmosphere's best

765
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 3: stadiums in the league. And I remember I think it

766
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 3: was last time the Colts were there, Jacobe Brissett starting

767
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 3: on Sunday Night Football and Dashawn Bond the Warren Central

768
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 3: Product at center, and it was kind of a game

769
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 3: for a while there. I think Seattle pull that out

770
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: in the end, but the Colts were definitely I'm seeing

771
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: a lot of pull out jokes here. I'm not totally

772
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 3: following these.

773
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: Was that related to Notre Dame or Philip Rivers? That's

774
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 2: why you got three kids?

775
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 3: Believe Philip Rivers. I'm not really You guys might have

776
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 3: to educate me. During the break on that.

777
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 2: Mark, I'll start drawing on the whiteboard. You and market

778
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: all kinds of discussions.

779
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 3: Jack Doyle in ten and as James putting out earlier,

780
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: the last man to catch a touchdown pass and Mark

781
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 3: and a two point conversion from Philip Rivers.

782
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 9: Back to back plays. Yeah, the old octopus, Well that's

783
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 9: what it's called. I guess it is today.

784
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 5: I saw a video about it from the Buccaneers, I believe,

785
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 5: early in the season, and they were asking all the

786
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 5: players on the team what do they call that? I

787
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 5: guess it's called an octopus.

788
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: I've never heard that, I assume in reference to eight points.

789
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: Yes, makes sense. Uh, three to one second.

790
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 5: I'll learn you something today.

791
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: You gonna learn a lot today.

792
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 3: Ears are open and eyes are looking at that Mark

793
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 3: Dagden's drawings.

794
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 2: I got an anonymous textor we still know his name.

795
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: Who says, going back to IU, why can't we just

796
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 2: bring in Nate Sudfeld it's even available.

797
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 9: I think it's because you still have playoff aspirations, and

798
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 9: neither of those guys him Lord elling Er, you know

799
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 9: ripping will give you any sort of confidence. Philip Rivers

800
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 9: has least been there, done that. I think that's why

801
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 9: they're taking the swing on this guy. But what about

802
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 9: five years ago? I mean five years in the NFL

803
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 9: is like I know, thirty years in real life. I mean,

804
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 9: did we ever get any than the average NFL career anyway?

805
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: I guess is a.

806
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 3: Point Feld on a roster?

807
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: I don't even know.

808
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 9: Look, did we ever get an answer on like, is

809
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 9: this the longest gap between playing and returning to play?

810
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 5: It's gotta be so, I did see. I think it

811
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 5: was Albert Breer actually, especially for the NFL. I tweeted

812
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 5: something out about this, and.

813
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: I could see somebody having like a being young and

814
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 2: having a severe injury and taking a long time to

815
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: get fully back from it. But I can't think of.

816
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 9: That was five years as eons? That is what Alex

817
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 9: Smith three years? Hailey's common stuff? How long to take

818
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 9: Alex Smith to get back too and a half three years.

819
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds right.

820
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 9: Nate Sudfel hasn't been on an NFL roster since twenty

821
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 9: twenty two. Really, Yeah, that's more recent than fill not

822
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 9: even like a practice squad or anything or camp roster.

823
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: I've bet he's been in training camp. See, I would

824
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: hope while you're looking at u Verlin from Greenfield says,

825
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: let's we'll just get the band back together. Maybe we

826
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: can get freenye and Mathis to come back and give

827
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: us a pass rush t.

828
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 5: Why's got to have some be able to and give

829
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 5: you a couple of catches, right, honest? To get him

830
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 5: the ten thousand even yards isn't even like a couple

831
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 5: hundred short. But here's Albert Breer and this was yet yesterday. Obviously,

832
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 5: what Philip Rivers is doing is rare, but it's not unprecedented.

833
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 5: In nineteen ninety eight, forty four year old Steve de

834
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 5: Burgh came out of retirement after five years away and

835
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 5: signed a one year deal with the Falcons. He even

836
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 5: started a game, a twenty eight to three loss to

837
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 5: the Jets for the Super Bowl bound Atlanta Falcons.

838
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: Nate Sudfeld forty nine Ers training camp this year.

839
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: It looks it looks like I.

840
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 5: Will say this though, I believe this Steve de Burgh

841
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 5: guy had a chance to actually prepare for the season

842
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 5: and went into it perhaps as someone who was available

843
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 5: from the start of it. Not with four games to go, you.

844
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 3: Know, I don't care who the hell is under center Sunday.

845
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 3: You got to revive this run game. You know, if

846
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: you look at losing four or five, everything correlates to

847
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor in the run game. You could boil it

848
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 3: down to that and yeah, Kevin.

849
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 5: You know what they're going to do. Oh for sure,

850
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 5: I get them under on JT's rustling right right, But

851
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 5: you have a hope and a prayer.

852
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, in any of these final four games, you have

853
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 3: to revive the run game and the defense can't look

854
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 3: like this.

855
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 5: What do you mean? Phil Rivers is in the best shape.

856
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 3: Of his life, and that I think is maybe the

857
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 3: biggest issue exiting Sunday is your defense played that poorly

858
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 3: against the Jaguars offense that has done not much this season,

859
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 3: particularly Trevor Lawrence. And now you're facing the top white

860
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 3: down in the NFL, likely down your top two outside corners.

861
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 3: And it's not just Jackson Smith and Jigba. I mean

862
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 3: Cooper Cup is still I think giving them something. And

863
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 3: they traded for Chicha Head at the deadline, and we

864
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 3: saw him torch the Colts a few years ago when

865
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 3: he was like a Randy Moss dead line was like

866
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 3: three checks in New Orleans.

867
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, big plays galore.

868
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 3: So those are non Philip Rivers quarterback elements that matter

869
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 3: a whole lot, because it's not like when you look

870
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: at the playoff standings, if you totally ignored anything that's

871
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 3: going on with these football teams and you strictly just

872
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 3: looked at standings, the Colts are really not that far

873
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 3: off from making the playoffs. They need to win probably

874
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: two of their final four right and get some help.

875
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 3: They don't even need that much help. Yes they need

876
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 3: a little bit, but if they win two of four,

877
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 3: there is a definite pathway to making the playoffs, particularly

878
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 3: if you win the last two.

879
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 2: But I would say those twos, those two if I

880
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: was gonna say, if you're gonna win two for two

881
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: four the ANFC South games as.

882
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you always want to win your divisional

883
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 3: ones in your conference games more than the two NFC

884
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 3: games next two weeks. So like you know, when you gain,

885
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 3: you speak to and those terms. Like Mark Dyton played

886
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 3: Michael Pittman Junior audio to start off the show and

887
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 3: pitt you know, is thrown out the whole super Bowl phrase.

888
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 3: But you know, Shane Sacking was pretty fired up on

889
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 3: Colt Round Table Live Monday night, and clearly he had

890
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 3: walked out of that Monday team meeting imploring to his

891
00:40:55,120 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 3: football team, we've lost four or five. We're reeling physically,

892
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 3: but guys, we are also eight and five and if

893
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 3: you look at it, if we win to a four,

894
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 3: we're probably going to be one of the seven teams.

895
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 3: Which again, like when you say that in a vacuum,

896
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 3: it doesn't sound that ludicrous. Now when you walk out

897
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 3: of the room and you open yourself up to reality

898
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 3: and where we literally have debated for the last hour

899
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 3: Brett Rippin a hurt, Riley Leonard and Phillip Frickin' rivers,

900
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: then winning to a four cents a little bit more daunting.

901
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 2: Here's the other thing I was just thinking too. If

902
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 2: you go two and two, yep, makes you ten and seven, right,

903
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: That means you've gone from seven to one and then

904
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 2: you lose six of your last nine.

905
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 5: Hey, at this point, you're just trying to get in.

906
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 5: I will say this though, and I can tease it

907
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 5: for after we talked to mister Jack Doyle. But there's

908
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 5: one factor I think that we're kind of glossing over

909
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 5: when it comes to this QB thing.

910
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: All right, we'll look forward to hearing that from James Boyd.

911
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: It's depended on with Kevin Boff and James Boyd, Mark Dyketon,

912
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 2: who is it is ever loving best today? Because this

913
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: just can't get any juicier for you, can't it. Well,

914
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 2: Kevin's about to learn some oh boy, some biology here.

915
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: Jack Doyle next on ninety three five.

916
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: Fan Please, He's a fan morning show with kb Hab

917
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: and Jeff and.

918
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 2: The Colts aren't dead yet.

919
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 11: They're inside the thirty yard line of Buffalo, down by

920
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 11: eleven points. Rivers backs to throw on first down, dancing

921
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 11: in the pocket, tuck going way down, phelip for Jack Doyle.

922
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: Who's got it?

923
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 6: Touchdown, Jack Doyle, touchdown?

924
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 5: Why indeed why?

925
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 11: Rivers out of the gun, empty set now three receivers right,

926
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 11: he looks that way, fires into the and zone for

927
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 11: Jack Doyle he's caught it did to get two feet in, Yes, sir,

928
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 11: two point conversion, Jack Doyle and the Colts have climbed

929
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 11: all the way back.

930
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 2: One of my favorite all time Indianapolis Colts tied in

931
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 2: Jack Doyle getting not only a touchdown but the two

932
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 2: point conversion from Philip Rivers. That was Was that the

933
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: last time that Philip Rivers threw a touchdown for the

934
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts Markers, That's just the one we found. I

935
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: know I might be asking for too much there, but

936
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 2: either way, those guys hooked up a few times for

937
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: touchdowns and Kevin did a nice job lining this up,

938
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: finding Jack Doyle, who's joining us now on the Payless

939
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: Liquors Hotline this morning. Does that bring any memories back

940
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: for you? You ready to come back and play and maybe

941
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 2: back up Tyler Warren? We ready to go.

942
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

943
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 10: I don't know about all that, but that definitely brings

944
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 10: back some good memories. And you know it also brings

945
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 10: back man, I wish we would have won that freaking

946
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 10: playoff game in Buffalo is what it makes me think.

947
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 10: But but no, that was fun and obviously getting that

948
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 10: year with Philip was it was.

949
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 3: It was a was a blast, Jack that that two

950
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 3: point conversion was a hell of a catch.

951
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just went back and watched it.

952
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, No, that was a that was a Philip play,

953
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 10: you know, and it was a you know, we were

954
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 10: in I think we were in twelve personnel. I think

955
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 10: it was me and Trey out there, and Phil knew

956
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 10: how to get you know, the sub guy went unguarded

957
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 10: Trey and then you know he kind of got doubled

958
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 10: in the middle, so we knew I'd be opening the

959
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 10: back and again that was That's a credit to what

960
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 10: Philip could draw up man and he kind of saw

961
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 10: that on film and we knew that was a two

962
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 10: point play going into the game.

963
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 3: Well, as Jeff said, we appreciate the time here. Jack

964
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 3: Doyle with us on the Payloff Suckers Hotline. We traded

965
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 3: a few texts yesterday. Your response, football is life for

966
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 3: mister Rivers. Could you touch on the football obsession during

967
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 3: COVID year that you got to witness with Philip Rivers.

968
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, that was a shout out to the

969
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 10: ted Laso fans and Denny rohauston football his life. That's

970
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 10: what I think about when I think of Philip. You know,

971
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 10: you know, the thing that comes to mind with Philip

972
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 10: is just he's such a unique character. And I say

973
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 10: that in the best way possible. And this guy is

974
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 10: just a football junkie and it's football the time, and

975
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 10: you know, he was such a great teammate and his mind,

976
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 10: you know, that's what I couldn't get over, just how

977
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 10: he just would get us in the right play over

978
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 10: and over and that's run a pass, and you know,

979
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 10: you could we would be sitting in a meeting and

980
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 10: you know, say we're preparing for the Steelers or something,

981
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 10: and they're you know, heavy sasas pressure, and Philip would

982
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 10: be like, oh yeah, you know talking to Nick Siriana

983
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 10: Nick Gianni, who was offen square of time. Oh I remember

984
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 10: we had this with the Chargers in fourteen. I think

985
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 10: it was like, you know, our second drive of the

986
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 10: third quarter. Can you go look up that play and

987
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 10: show it to the guys, and it'd be like right

988
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 10: on point. He knew exactly what play it was, what

989
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 10: the pressure was, and how they kind of attacked it,

990
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 10: and it's just a It just shows how his brain

991
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 10: kind of works and.

992
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 4: How he's wired.

993
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 5: Jack. Thanks again for joining the show. James boyd. Here,

994
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 5: I'm going to ask the hard hitting questions on this show.

995
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 5: So with Philip Rivers and him knowing notoriously not to curse,

996
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 5: is he the best trash talker who doesn't say any

997
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 5: bad words?

998
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 4: Yes?

999
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 10: See, he's the best trash talker period that I ever

1000
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 10: played with. Okay, I mean he does not stop, and

1001
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 10: it's all in fun, and he's just the ultimate competitor

1002
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 10: and he gets under guys which is hilarious.

1003
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 4: And he's just such a great teammate. You know.

1004
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 10: That's you know, not knowing anything about him, and he

1005
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 10: you know, he when he showed up in twenty twenty,

1006
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 10: and you know, I'm you know, I'm thinking that my

1007
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 10: memory of Philip Rivers is like, man, I didn't like

1008
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 10: this guy. You know, I was a Colts fan growing up,

1009
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 10: and you know, he knocked the Colts out of the

1010
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 10: playoffs there in the two thousands or whatever. I can't

1011
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 10: remember the years, but you know, and he was always

1012
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 10: talking trash to the fans. I'm like, man, I don't

1013
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 10: like this guy that he came in and he just

1014
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 10: carries himself in a way that like all he wanted

1015
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 10: to do was be a good teammate. Get to know

1016
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 10: his get to know the other players, and just be

1017
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 10: one of the guys. And I just have so much

1018
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 10: respect for him.

1019
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 5: I need Philip rivers micd up immediately, like from the

1020
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 5: time he lands in Indianapolis to get ready for practice today.

1021
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 5: But one more and more serious note, when you look

1022
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 5: at his career, the man is accomplished darn near everything

1023
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 5: in the NFL, say for the Super Bowl win, but

1024
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 5: counting stats, longevity, respect from Piers, all of that. So

1025
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 5: when you factor in perhaps the respect that he still

1026
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 5: has in that locker room, how much do you think

1027
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 5: that helps? Because you know, unlike someone who normally be

1028
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 5: stepping into these disposition, he still knows I would say,

1029
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 5: what ten starters for the Colts right now, or at

1030
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 5: least about seven or eight. So do you think that'll

1031
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 5: help just him ease back into things when it comes

1032
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 5: to trying to restart this NFL career.

1033
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, for sure. I mean, I mean the cults are

1034
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 10: ling a little bit over this past month, and I

1035
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 10: wish I was in the Wednesday Offensive meeting that's coming up,

1036
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 10: you know, probably here in the next hour or so,

1037
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 10: and and just the energy that Philip's going to bring

1038
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 10: to that room is something that's unmatched, and I can

1039
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 10: imagine being up there and you know, who knows what's

1040
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 10: going to happen, but him going through you know the

1041
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 10: you know, the his cadence and and how his kind

1042
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 10: of tone is with his cadence and all kinds of

1043
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 10: different things. He just he's going to bring an energy

1044
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 10: to that group and hopefully kind of wake us up

1045
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 10: over there on West fifty sixth Street.

1046
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 2: What do you think this offense with him under center,

1047
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 2: come out out of a five year retirement, what's it

1048
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 2: going to look like? Realistically? Tell us what those first

1049
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: two series are going to be.

1050
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 10: Well, he'll have no like the plays will be the same.

1051
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 10: He'll have no problem you know, knowing the play calls.

1052
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 10: He can show up there and and call any play

1053
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 10: that they're running right now. You know, maybe the checks

1054
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 10: and things like that. You know, they'll have to kind of,

1055
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 10: you know, figure out because maybe Daniel had things a

1056
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 10: certain way or you know, stuff from his past that

1057
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 10: they've kind of emulated in their offense. But he'll he'll

1058
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 10: know what he's doing. He'll and he'll be able to

1059
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 10: communicate with the guys. You know, if I had a guess,

1060
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 10: I could see them going some sort of up tempo

1061
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 10: and just kind of trying to keep it simple and

1062
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 10: you know, him getting you in the right play and

1063
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 10: maybe that takes the crowd out of it a little

1064
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 10: bit and he's able to communicate and just getting guys

1065
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 10: up to the line and just figuring out the you know,

1066
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 10: the best play for the Colts to be in.

1067
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: Are the Seahawks just going to throw the kitchen sink

1068
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 2: at him from a blitz pack his perspective.

1069
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 10: Yes, I mean that's what I would do. And you

1070
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 10: know they're gonna have to prove, you know, and Nicolet's

1071
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 10: kind of got to prove that anyways they get they

1072
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 10: got to gash somebody with with with all the pressure

1073
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 10: they're seeing, you know, in the run or pass game,

1074
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 10: it doesn't really matter. But the thing about Phil, it

1075
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 10: is like like like I was minching earlier, he's seeing

1076
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 10: every blitz and you know, Phil, there was times when

1077
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 10: he'd call out the defensive guy for saying, you know,

1078
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 10: you know, telling the linebacker he's supposed to be bossed

1079
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 10: over a little more because they're about to bring this

1080
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 10: SaaS pressure or whatever. It is, like, hey, you're miss aligned.

1081
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 10: Your coach is gonna yell at you like you're supposed

1082
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 10: to be. He just he just is. He's so unique.

1083
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 10: The way his brain works is just awesome. I mean,

1084
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,439
Speaker 10: lay in that twenty year I feel like a lot

1085
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 10: of my catches were on checks that he made at

1086
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 10: the line for just from seeing, you know, different things.

1087
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 10: We'd be in a run call and he sees a

1088
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 10: pressure coming and he'd get us in a in a

1089
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 10: quick pass or something like that to kind of take

1090
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 10: advantage of it. So they're just again, his brain is

1091
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 10: just so you geek in the way it's wired. And

1092
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 10: if anybody can do this, I mean, it's it's freaking

1093
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 10: Philip Rivers.

1094
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 2: That's Jack Doyle.

1095
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 3: Jack Oil podcast over in the Colts Audio Network has

1096
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 3: been a great listen all year long with Jack and

1097
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 3: Matt Taylor and Jack's with us here on the payloss

1098
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 3: Slickers hotline.

1099
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 2: Jack, I don't remember.

1100
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 3: I think it's been a trend a little bit more

1101
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 3: here in recent years league wide, the Colts have definitely

1102
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 3: started it.

1103
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 2: Did. Did Frank do walk.

1104
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 3: Through Wednesdays late in seasons very often with you guys?

1105
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 10: You know, I thinking back, we were doing walkthrough I

1106
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 10: feel like we were doing them on Thursdays. I don't

1107
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 10: know if that's right. I might be completely wrong. Practice

1108
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 10: walk through Thursday walk through, Yeah, and giving guys a

1109
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 10: day in the middle of it was kind of our schedule.

1110
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 10: But yeah, I think I think especially when they added

1111
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 10: the extra game, I think that's probably when it became

1112
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 10: more prevalent around the league.

1113
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I bring that up. The Colts have done

1114
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 3: the walk through Wednesday last two weeks since the signing

1115
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 3: of Philip Rivers yesterday, they now have changed their practice schedule.

1116
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 3: They'll go all three days starting today, Thursday and Friday.

1117
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 3: Last one from me, and it's just more of a

1118
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 3: reminiscing story the Josh Freeman Ryan Linley week for you guys.

1119
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 3: This is I would say this is probably the most

1120
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 3: dire in season weekly quarterback situation I can recall for

1121
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 3: the Colts since that week. I forget which season, it was,

1122
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 3: fifteen sixteen, something like that. What do you remember about

1123
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 3: that week in which you guys literally had to get

1124
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 3: two quarterbacks ready to play?

1125
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it was the last game of twenty fifteen.

1126
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 10: And yeah, we went in with I remember Clyde going

1127
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 10: up there and kind of going through the game plan

1128
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 10: with the quarterbacks, and Josh Freeman did all the you know,

1129
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 10: bass stuff right.

1130
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 4: And he was running the offense.

1131
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 10: And then Ryan Linley came in on two minute drill

1132
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 10: and that's how they kind of prepared them both, and

1133
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 10: they both were the I think Ryan Linley, I don't

1134
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 10: know if we went down and got a touchdown, but

1135
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 10: there was a two minute drill in that game where

1136
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 10: I know we went down and got points.

1137
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 4: So yeah, it worked out well.

1138
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 10: But you know, the thing that I remember most is,

1139
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 10: you know, it was late in the year and you know,

1140
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 10: obviously we had you know, we had lost Andrew and

1141
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 10: then I think we had lost and then Matt got

1142
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 10: hurt down in Miami the game before, and you know,

1143
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 10: you kind of walk in there with you know, your

1144
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 10: head's kind of hanging low, and then you kind of

1145
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 10: walking back up by this you know, new point and

1146
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 10: and and everyone's kind of rejuvenized and and and you

1147
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 10: go out there and just play football and see what happened.

1148
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 10: So hopefully, you know, Philip can have that kind of

1149
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 10: effect on the on the locker room coming in today.

1150
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 2: Last thing I got to know, Jacket, Ye honestly, after

1151
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 2: you heard about this last night, you and any of

1152
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: your former teammates have any kind of a text chain

1153
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 2: going on about can you believe this? Or anything like that.

1154
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I was texted with Moe Ali Cox

1155
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 10: yesterday and I was just like, Mo, you could write

1156
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 10: a book on your story as a Colts player. I mean,

1157
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 10: all the stuff that's kind of you know, you know

1158
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 10: going on with you know, obviously Andrew's retirement, and you know,

1159
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 10: Jeff's Saturday coming in to coach, and then now this.

1160
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 10: I mean, he's just he's been through it in his career.

1161
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 10: But man, it's gonna be a heck again. I have

1162
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 10: no reason to doubt Philip Rivers. I know there's people saying,

1163
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 10: you know, some people are laughing at this, calling it crazy,

1164
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 10: all that fun stuff. But Philip's got to prove to

1165
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 10: me that he can't do it, because you know, I

1166
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 10: won't doubt that man for one second.

1167
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: Good stuff, Jack, Thanks for joining us. We appreciate that

1168
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 2: you're teaching high school right now, right middle school, middle school.

1169
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 2: I'm off today though, just Monday Fridays sounds good. Enjoy it.

1170
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon.

1171
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 3: Thanks Jack.

1172
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 4: Thanks guy.

1173
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 2: There you go, Jack Doyle, and I think I know

1174
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: the answer this but you went to high school with him.

1175
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 3: Chries correct, great, great human. I have enjoyed the Jack

1176
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 3: Doyle podcast this year, him and Matt Taylor. It's been

1177
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 3: a fun listen they have over there on the Colt

1178
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 3: Soudi End Network. And I think, you know, he kind

1179
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 3: of got to some of the points about, okay, if

1180
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 3: this is going to work, how you know, he mentions

1181
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 3: the up tempo potentially let Philip kind of manage everything

1182
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 3: at the line of scrimmage. Honestly, you might take some

1183
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 3: of the Shane stake and calling reins off with Philip Rivers. Hey, phil,

1184
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 3: this is what we're thinking. Let's go a little up tempo.

1185
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 3: Let's try to quiet the crowd, Let's try to get

1186
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 3: defense hands on the hips if possible, and you know whatever,

1187
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 3: here's half a dozen play calls. Operate as you please,

1188
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 3: and you know, Jack's just little anecdotes there. The two

1189
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 3: point conversion call that Mark played to lead off the interview.

1190
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 3: You know that is the last time Philip Rivers don't

1191
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 3: a touchdown or two point version in a game. Was

1192
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 3: the Jack tol in that Bills game. And it's funny.

1193
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 3: I just went back and watched that play on YouTube.

1194
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 3: You can see Philip Rivers, you know in twelve personnel

1195
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 3: as Jack exactly lined out. You know Trey Burton's going

1196
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 3: one way and you see Buffalo react to it, and

1197
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 3: he's got Jack, I believe on a linebacker and boom,

1198
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 3: You're going to take that matchup and Jack wins it

1199
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 3: and you have a huge two more conversion on that play.

1200
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 3: And you know how many catches did he have in

1201
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 3: that season where he just told us it was because

1202
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 3: of Rivers check. So that's what you're banking on. You

1203
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 3: are banking on mental acumen to the nth degree. But

1204
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 3: of course that gets you how far that's the question

1205
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 3: you have. I think it's as far as I get you.

1206
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 3: That he brought up the up tempo.

1207
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 2: I wonder and James, if he has that much of

1208
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 2: a command of the offense, and you talk about the

1209
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: mental acumen, maybe the best defense for yourself offensively to

1210
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 2: keep Seattle at bay is to go not just up tempa,

1211
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 2: maybe just go no huddle, make checks and calls up

1212
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 2: the line. If he can do that, that keeps that

1213
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 2: keeps a lot of substitutions off the field, That keeps

1214
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 2: Seattle a little bit off balance. It kids gets them

1215
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: not being able to reorganize every every huddle.

1216
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't hate the theory. But the other side

1217
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 5: of it is you also have to get the other

1218
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 5: guys up to speed, like you're not speaking the same

1219
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 5: language right now that you did back in twenty twenty.

1220
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 3: There, Phillips got to meet them like, this is not

1221
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 3: a normal quarterback walking in there. He's got to get

1222
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 3: up to cite. You don't know. There's no way you

1223
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 3: make this move. You have enough physical questions about Philip Rivers.

1224
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 3: There is no way you make this move with thinking

1225
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 3: Phillip's not going to be able to be mentally.

1226
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got to catch up with that.

1227
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, But I still think that there is an element

1228
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 5: of a two way street there where the little nuances

1229
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 5: you had before, when you had an entire season to

1230
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 5: build chemistry with guys is not there. I don't care

1231
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 5: how much film you've watched, how much you know the offense.

1232
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 5: You have never played with Alex Pierce before, you never

1233
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 5: played with Josh Downs before, you never play with Tyler

1234
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 5: Warren before. Obviously these are good problems to have if

1235
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 5: you're returning to NFL team. There's certainly worse pass catches

1236
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 5: you can have. But that's my point there is that

1237
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 5: I get that he might be the most well versed

1238
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 5: and studied guy when it comes to NFL offenses, he

1239
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 5: still has not played with these dudes. How much you

1240
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 5: can you know, go up tempo and no huddle on

1241
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 5: all of that in a matter of days. And even

1242
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 5: if you are capable of doing that, there is still

1243
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 5: what he has a case of old. So I don't

1244
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 5: care how quick you are, and you know how cerebral

1245
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 5: you might be. Boy, there's a lot of players who

1246
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 5: could think the game out. Hell, Michael Jordans will probably

1247
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 5: be playing if he could physically do it, because he

1248
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 5: can think the game out. He's a killer. But I

1249
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 5: just don't think that that's necessarily a realistic approach. But

1250
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 5: at this point, realistic is probably out the window, and

1251
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 5: you're just trying to see, you know, throwing stuff at

1252
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 5: the wall, see with sticks and see what can work.

1253
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if that fastball, which I don't think

1254
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 3: we ever looked at the Philip Rivers velocity, especially late

1255
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 3: in his career, and thought it was the biggest concern too.

1256
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 3: We didn't think it was a role to Shapman, you know,

1257
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 3: call it, Greg Maddox, Yeah, okay, if that fastball is

1258
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 3: lost any miles per hour, now all of a sudden,

1259
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 3: one of, if not the best defensive league. Just to

1260
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 3: reiterate everybody what Seattle's done.

1261
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 2: They have not.

1262
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 3: Allowed a touchdown in the last two games. I mean,

1263
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 3: they are one of the best defenses, bar none, in

1264
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 3: the league no matter how you slice indice it. And

1265
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 3: I would argue that environment is one of the most

1266
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 3: hostile to play in the league. So if the third

1267
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 3: and six window, if old Philip Rivers used to throw

1268
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 3: at eighty one miles per hour and that thing comes

1269
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 3: in at seventy one, that might not seem like a

1270
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 3: big difference. But if that dB is able to get

1271
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 3: one hand in there and that ball's tipped up in

1272
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 3: the air, now, all of a sudden, where are you?

1273
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 3: Those are the questions, and like movement, I get, we

1274
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 3: poke fun at. I literally spit up my coffee yesterday

1275
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 3: when I got an email about prop bets for Philip

1276
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 3: Rivers for Sunday, and one of the prop bets was

1277
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 3: will Philip Rivers end the game with more grandchildren or

1278
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 3: rushing yards?

1279
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 2: I'd go I'd go grandchildren. That's one, right, he.

1280
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 3: Has oun grandchild. And again, sacks do not count for

1281
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 3: rushing yards. So the old QB sneak gonna happen a

1282
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 3: couple of times, will they'll have a QB sneaker too,

1283
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 3: But in all seriousness, you could be looking at a

1284
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 3: rookie right tack. So we've it's the element that I

1285
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 3: was talking about earlier. We've already called him a statue.

1286
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 3: And if that pocket movement is if you called it

1287
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 3: two percent with a healthy Philip Rivers, if that's a zero,

1288
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 3: as weird as that might sound, then every time there's

1289
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 3: a little bit of a muddy pocket, which we've seen

1290
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 3: some lately, is he just going down the fetal position.

1291
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 5: That's the other factor that I was teasing earlier is

1292
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 5: Jalen Travis. He's stepping in in a humongous role when

1293
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 5: it comes to where your team is at at this

1294
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 5: point in the season, the opponent you're going to face,

1295
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 5: and oh, by the way, we have a new quarterback

1296
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 5: coming in. So as much as we've talked about how

1297
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 5: Phillips Rivers has to get up to speed so are

1298
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 5: from miss speaking, but when you look at Jalen Travis,

1299
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 5: he also has to get up to speed when it

1300
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 5: comes to what the Colts want to do. And I'm

1301
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 5: not saying he can't, you know, be successful, but boy,

1302
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 5: this is stepping out of high school stats class and

1303
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 5: going up to ap calculus in college or something. The

1304
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 5: Seattle Seahawks will so only try to exploit him as well.

1305
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 3: James, I only want to gets that tease that you

1306
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 3: had a little bit earlier about the Colts quarterback.

1307
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 5: There you go, situations.

1308
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 2: Oh that was it?

1309
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay.

1310
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 3: The other item I wanted to say is we want

1311
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 3: Philip Rivers miked up. I want all eleven defenders for

1312
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 3: the Seattle Seahawks miked up. Can you imagine the amount

1313
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 3: of Grandpa jokes. I just want to hear them in

1314
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 3: the they're going to have. I want to hear them

1315
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 3: Philip Rivers. Yeah, it will be a legendary NFL Films

1316
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 3: game coming up on something.

1317
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 5: Telling me if I'm Seattle, honest to god, if I'm

1318
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 5: the Seattle defender, I'm like, I'm going to send you

1319
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 5: back into retirement. Dead Series. There's no way I'm an

1320
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 5: a forty four year old guy beat me.

1321
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 2: Can you imagine the guy who cuts and edits all

1322
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 2: the tapes down into offensive packages and defensive packages. He's

1323
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 2: sitting back in probably his little basement office, going through

1324
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 2: tape or whatever, and he gets a phone call from

1325
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 2: Mike McDonald like on Monday night, goes, hey, go find

1326
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: that that Bill's Colts playoff game from five years ago.

1327
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 2: I need that whole thing broken down.

1328
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 3: Honestly, one of my biggest takeaways from the highlight Mark

1329
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 3: that you just played was zero. It's like six thousand

1330
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 3: fans at that playoff game.

1331
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 9: The inside the NFL episode where they do miked up

1332
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 9: that should we must watch for Colt Seahawks.

1333
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they could make a whole series out of that

1334
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 2: this year. Just to hear Rivers trash talking again, all right,

1335
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 2: let's check it down. Mark Dayton. Oh, we've been talking

1336
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 2: about it NonStop over the last i don't know, twenty

1337
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 2: four hours or so here on this radio station. But

1338
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 2: it appears to be a reality. The Indianapolis Cults are

1339
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 2: poised to sign Philip Rivers to their practice squad and

1340
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 2: look to put him in at least as the quarterback

1341
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 2: in a practice session today as they get ready to

1342
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 2: take on the Seahawks at four to twenty five on Sunday.

1343
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 2: You mentioned Kevin yesterday. That usually it's a walk through Wednesday.

1344
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 2: They have changed that to a full practice today. What

1345
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: does that suggest to you? Yeah, one o'clock.

1346
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 3: It's just to me that Philip Rivers has dictated some

1347
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 3: of this change in all seriousness, or the cults realized, hey,

1348
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,919
Speaker 3: two practices won't be enough. So yeah, they'll go back

1349
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 3: to their kind of early season schedule because James health wise,

1350
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 3: this is the reason why they go to Wednesday walk

1351
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 3: through is late in the year. Health Wise, I think

1352
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 3: it's the most banged up they've.

1353
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 2: Been all year.

1354
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're decimated right, Everything health wise would indicate no, no, no,

1355
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 3: you walk through today, but given their quarterback situation, they've

1356
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 3: decided to change that schedule. So one o'clock today, full

1357
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 3: pads practice.

1358
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 9: You should do full pads Oklahoma drill for three hours.

1359
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 2: James is vicariously living through defensive players for the Seahawks.

1360
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, I mean not to ram rave about this,

1361
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 5: but I feel like this. Whenever I play basketball anywhere

1362
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 5: in the guy across from me is like fifty plus.

1363
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 5: I'm like, you're not going to stay in front of me.

1364
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 5: I'm going to run you to death. So there has

1365
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 5: to be an evident element of competitive nature that says,

1366
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 5: I'm gonna letting the old guy beat me. He ain't

1367
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 5: Tom Brady.

1368
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 2: All right, So we know Philip Rivers may be the

1369
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 2: quarterback for the Sea against Seattle for the Indian Upolis

1370
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 2: Colts on Sunday, But what are we learning about? How

1371
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 2: badly is Riley Leonard hurt? And what does the offensive

1372
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 2: line look like? Those two things are on my mind today.

1373
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 3: Go yeah, I mean, the Riley Leonard nee injury is

1374
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 3: still one that I guess we need just further clarity

1375
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 3: on of could he somehow battle through it again? Given

1376
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 3: his makeup as a quarterback and this would be his

1377
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 3: first ever start in the NFL, I would be skeptical

1378
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 3: of a limited Riley Leonard on Sunday, But still that

1379
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 3: remains to be seen. And yes, at right tackle, as

1380
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 3: we've talked about Braden Smith exiting with a neck in

1381
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 3: a concussion. So you know, the Colts have started the

1382
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 3: same offensive line for twelve to thirteen games this season. Weirdly,

1383
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 3: the Colts have been incredibly healthy on their offense this

1384
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 3: year until we until Daniel Jones went down, but whiteouts,

1385
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 3: they've been very healthy. Donathan Taylor has played every game.

1386
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 3: Tyler Warren, you know, the old line's been again incredibly durable,

1387
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 3: But looks like Brayden Smith could be iffy for Sunday.

1388
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 3: So as James said, rookie fourth round pick from Princeton

1389
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 3: to Iowa State, the biggest dude I've ever seen put

1390
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 3: on a Colts uniform, Jalen Travis all Right.

1391
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 2: To college basketball. Last night Assembly Hall was rocking Indiana

1392
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 2: Big Ten matchup against Penn State. Yeah, Penn State's not

1393
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 2: that great. Still, Indiana wins it one thirteen seventy two,

1394
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 2: and my, oh my, Lamar Wilkerson sets an Assembly Hall

1395
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 2: scoring record with forty four points, also a record for

1396
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 2: all of Indiana. Homer roared ten three point field goals made.

1397
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 2: He was ten to fifteen. I pointed out that with

1398
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 2: fourteen twenty six to go last night, Kevin he had

1399
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 2: outscored Penn State thirty five thirty four at that point

1400
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 2: in time.

1401
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 3: Yeah easily, yeah one. I mean, the greatest scoring performance

1402
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 3: we've ever seen in Indiana uniform. I mentioned this earlier

1403
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 3: in the show. I was shocking. They showed up the

1404
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 3: graphic during the contest as he hit three after three

1405
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 3: after three that the all time three point three pointers

1406
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 3: made in a game for Indiana was Matt Roth, Rod Wilmot,

1407
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,439
Speaker 3: and Rob Johnson. I you know, like I said earlier,

1408
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 3: would have guessed Eric Gordon or James Blackman Junior Jordan Halls,

1409
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 3: but man Lamar Wilkerson can fill it up. And you

1410
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 3: know again, I you has his firepower of like. Yes,

1411
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 3: they've obviously had issues this season, but they are capable

1412
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:09,479
Speaker 3: of just producing some unbelievable offensive nights and certainly last

1413
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 3: night was one of the most points they've scored in

1414
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 3: a Big Ten games since nineteen ninety and.

1415
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 2: They will play playing Kentucky on Saturday. It's been tough

1416
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 2: go for Mark Pope down there so far too. He's

1417
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 2: a chance to really get on him Kentucky's.

1418
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 9: That's when it's Valpo shout out to the Beacons. Give

1419
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 9: it a shout out to another Hoosier, Kyle Schwarver getting

1420
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 9: a bag from the Philadelphia Phillies yesterday, five years, one

1421
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 9: hundred and fifty million dollars, coming off a career high

1422
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 9: fifty six home run one hundred and thirty two RBI season.

1423
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 9: It's good for him. Go Go, Go Go.

1424
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 2: Also coming up later on tonight, college basketball Perdue will

1425
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 2: be hosting Minnesota. That one starts at seven o'clock. Notre

1426
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 2: Dame same time, will be hosting Idaho this evening. And

1427
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 2: you've suffered a tough blow with the Notre Dame basketball

1428
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 2: team lately too, Kevin. That's why he's wearing the Tito's hat. Yeah,

1429
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 2: he's just drinking and drinking. Yeah, it's been an all

1430
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 2: week all right.

1431
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 5: Hey, seriously though, prays for Marcus Burne.

1432
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 3: You guys cackling, Mark.

1433
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 2: And Jeff, No, it's at the Tito's hat. Was respectful?

1434
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 2: You too, Twist everything for the course, twisting everything. I'm

1435
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 2: bringing the seven Lakers.

1436
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 3: I'm surprised he's hearing what he wants to hear.

1437
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 2: Again, Jeff, I heard laughs?

1438
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 3: Did I not hear laughs?

1439
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 2: I was laughing at the joke he made about the

1440
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 2: Tito's hat. And you're drinking heavily.

1441
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 9: Keep learning about the birds and the bees over there.

1442
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 9: I gave you of drawing material.

1443
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 5: There's a crazy line in there with Lord her get

1444
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 5: a pretty big favorite right tonight.

1445
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 2: You would think so, but then they how that go

1446
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 2: against Minnesota at the barn? Well, that was Indiana, Indiana.

1447
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Indiana, that's right. That one that did surprise me,

1448
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 2: though he surprised at any lost in Minnesota up there.

1449
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I added, Minnesota is any good twenty and a

1450
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,439
Speaker 3: half point favorites twenty and a half.

1451
01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 2: It's a good, good, get right game.

1452
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 3: Oh way, I saw that. Just you want to talk

1453
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 3: about a horrific sports injuries story. I know Indiana hasn't

1454
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 3: confirmed it, but Kurt Signetti was kind of weird in

1455
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 3: his Yeah chat postgame about injuries. Saw the video micking

1456
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 3: the rounds yesterday? If Stephen Daily, Indiana's i'd say star

1457
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 3: pass rusher and defensive end has had an outstanding season

1458
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 3: for him. Video shows him literally trying to high five

1459
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 3: fans after the game at Lucoshilo Stadium on Saturday, and

1460
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 3: he goes down with what looks to be some sort

1461
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 3: of leg knee injury. I believe was carted off during

1462
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 3: the celebration. And again, I don't want to play the

1463
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 3: internet rumor mill too too much, but I think Kurt

1464
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 3: Signetti is not or shining away from addressing it in

1465
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 3: postgame or you know, press conferences, but some reports he

1466
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 3: could be out for the playoffs.

1467
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 2: That looked weird because you're right, he's along the behind

1468
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 2: the end zone there fans are leaning over to get

1469
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 2: a high five, and he's kind of give him a

1470
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 2: high five, and all of a sudden you can see

1471
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 2: that buckles just a little bit jumps up. Olympic horrific.

1472
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, in the state of Indiana injuries that

1473
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 3: we've had over the last months years, that one might

1474
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 3: take the cake considering how it happened. And he's been great,

1475
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 3: you know, one of the best tackle for lost guys

1476
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 3: in the entire nation. Leads a big ten in that,

1477
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 3: so I guess we'll await confirmation on that.

1478
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 2: But boy, the video is just awful. All right, anything

1479
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 2: else you guys going to throw in? All right? Coming

1480
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,480
Speaker 2: up at a moment, we'll talk more about the Indianapolis

1481
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,919
Speaker 2: Colts and their chances against the Seattle Seahawks with a

1482
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 2: quarterback who hasn't played in over five years. That's coming

1483
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 2: up next. Ninety three five and one seven five of

1484
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 2: the Fan.

1485
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 9: This is the top song of nineteen eighty one, the

1486
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 9: year of Philip Rivers was born. So there you go,

1487
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 9: four years older than the Colt said coach, and six

1488
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 9: years older than the Seahawks head coach.

1489
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 2: Hmm wow.

1490
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 3: Happy forty fourth to Uncle Phil again, James Boyd, Mark

1491
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 3: Dyke ten Uncle Phil all birthdays in the same week.

1492
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 2: How about bat How about the quite the threesome there?

1493
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 2: What do you think chances are that out the course

1494
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 2: of this week.

1495
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 3: I'm not going anywhere with them and Philip rivers because

1496
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 3: you want to talk about Michael Phelps a level swimming

1497
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 3: that is certainly true.

1498
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 9: He's got enough force power for three men's.

1499
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna let those two the conversation's funny.

1500
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 3: James, I did have a question about your colleagues over

1501
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,839
Speaker 3: at the Old Athletic and the Heisman Trophy.

1502
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 5: Oh boy, am I in trouble? So, by the way,

1503
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 5: I'm gonna vote for those listening. If you missed yesterday,

1504
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 5: I thought Dave done great stuff. Fornado Mendoza's high school coach,

1505
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 5: he joined us again. The Heisman Trophy ceremony is Saturday,

1506
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 5: at the same time as Indiana Kentucky basketball opposite networks,

1507
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 5: of course, So we know Diego Pavia from Vandy, Jeremilah

1508
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 5: from Notre Dame, Julian Say in Ohio State the other

1509
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 5: Heisman finalists. With Fernado Mendoza, you guys did a Heisman

1510
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 5: straw poll, which you know, I think we see this,

1511
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 5: you know, kind of around you know, sports media at

1512
01:09:56,400 --> 01:10:00,080
Speaker 5: times with these awards. Basically, what you do is you

1513
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 5: you read. You know, James Boyd, if he did a

1514
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 5: straw poll for NFL MVP, he would reach out to uh,

1515
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 5: you know whatever, his colleagues around the NFL that cover

1516
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 5: the various teams and they would all say, James, I

1517
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 5: vote for this person for MVP. You'd collect the votes

1518
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 5: and you would let us know. So one of your

1519
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 5: colleagues has done that from a college football since and

1520
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 5: he has. He did twenty five people. Jeremiah Love got

1521
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 5: un vote, un first place vote, Fernando Mendoza got fourteen,

1522
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 5: and Diego Pavia got eleven.

1523
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 2: I was surprised to see it that close. Fourteen eleven

1524
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 2: and one stop.

1525
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 5: I'll stop by the New York Times offices and handle

1526
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 5: this later today. That's a travesty.

1527
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 2: It should have been.

1528
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 5: My high take when it comes to Heisman Trophy winners

1529
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 5: MVP winners is that there should be more unanimous ones.

1530
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 5: I don't see a scenario where Diego Pavia should be

1531
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 5: the Heisman.

1532
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 3: Now Vegas personally has the odds shrinking a little bit

1533
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 3: for Nana Mendoz is still the definite favorite. Pavia is

1534
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 3: at plus six point fifty, so that would be ten

1535
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 3: bucks to win sixty five. It is interesting. I think

1536
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 3: we've talked about this maybe a few weeks back. And

1537
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 3: by the way, who do we got Scott doctor what's

1538
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 3: his last name? James I butchered earlier. Doctor Man is

1539
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 3: going to join US College Football Rider coming up at

1540
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 3: nine thirty to talk more about this. But it is

1541
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 3: a no matter who wins a Heisman, I assume it

1542
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 3: will be for Nana Mendoza. It's one of the worst

1543
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 3: years for the Heisman Trophy ever from a statistical standpoint,

1544
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 3: like if you look at Mendoz's numbers for example, or

1545
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 3: even Pavia and compare it to the last like ten

1546
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 3: Heisman winners.

1547
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 5: Yes, it's like at mass Gency if you were born

1548
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 5: a year later, you'd win it this year.

1549
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 3: Oh overwhelmingly, Yeah, I mean it's you know, basically, the

1550
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 3: Heisman Trophy winner typically is you throw for north of

1551
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 3: four thousand yards and you have like north of forty touchdowns,

1552
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 3: and right down Mendoza, I think it's under three thousand yards.

1553
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken even with the Big Ten title.

1554
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 3: Touchdown wise it's it's north of thirty, but still so

1555
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:09,839
Speaker 3: Pavia is slightly better individual numbers. But of course Mendoza

1556
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 3: better team. I would argue better moments, you know, whether

1557
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 3: it's the Big Ten title or Oregon or Penn State

1558
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 3: or even Iowa.

1559
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

1560
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 3: I just found that interesting of like, are we living

1561
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 3: too much in the Big Ten bubble here? Because you

1562
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 3: do have voters from all over the college football nation here,

1563
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 3: and is this going to be a closer reward than

1564
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 3: we think? That straw poll would indicate, yes, it's going

1565
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 3: to be closer.

1566
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it will be closer. And also I

1567
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 5: thought Vegas is just again clairvoyant when it comes to

1568
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 5: this type of.

1569
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 3: They're dead wrong another day making the playoff.

1570
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 5: Oh seriously, I actually didn't check those outs.

1571
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 2: They underestimated the folks in that committee room that wanted

1572
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 2: to send a little bit of a message to Notre Dame.

1573
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 3: Well, are we underestimating the SEC with this? SERI you

1574
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 3: got me nervous. Oh man, it's Vanderbilt. I don't want

1575
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:06,719
Speaker 3: to act like it's the Alabama quarterback here. I think

1576
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 3: I think Mendoza because if I'm not mistaken, I believe

1577
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 3: the window to vote started Saturday and close Monday. Well,

1578
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 3: everybody was watching what on Saturday night.

1579
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 5: I was going to say, do the moments matter? Yeah,

1580
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 5: and that matters to me.

1581
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 2: You brought that up, and that's what I've been thinking

1582
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 2: all along when you take a look at the moments,

1583
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 2: because there are not gotty statistics for any college football

1584
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 2: player this year for the most part, So it is

1585
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 2: about moments and in the biggest moments that mattered to

1586
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 2: Indiana this year. Behind on the road late at Iowa City,

1587
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 2: throw a pick six, come right back and win a

1588
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 2: football game on the road at Oregon. You're down to

1589
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,639
Speaker 2: Ohio State in the middle of that game, and you

1590
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 2: put together a touchdown drive and you guys hang on

1591
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 2: to win. And then another big moment, the pass when

1592
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 2: you need to run clock and keep Ohio State out

1593
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 2: of it, you throw it to Charlie Becker downfield in

1594
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 2: a big moment. He just keeps coming up with moments.

1595
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 3: Kevin, Oh, yeah, again, I would give the war the

1596
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 3: Award to Mendoza. To be clear, I just thought it

1597
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:17,600
Speaker 3: was interesting. I did see yesterday Zach Ostmer had this,

1598
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:22,679
Speaker 3: uh We've obviously see Mendoza make the media rounds here

1599
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 3: as Indiana tries to continue to market him from a

1600
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,679
Speaker 3: Heisman standpoint. And yesterday he mentioned that he had trouble

1601
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 3: sleeping the other night due to his Lucas so oil

1602
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 3: turf burns, and so he dialed up Heisman Trophy speeches

1603
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 3: on YouTube.

1604
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 2: So he just watched. I thought.

1605
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 3: He said he watched like five or six Heisman Trophy speeches.

1606
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:42,640
Speaker 2: It's preparation.

1607
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 3: His speech will be epic on Saturday night. I had

1608
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 3: fun watching him in the said Monday he is WWE

1609
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 3: promoter has met Joel whatever his name is, the the

1610
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,719
Speaker 3: the Preacher dude that's on my TV. Yeah, Sunday morning.

1611
01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 3: If those two had a kid, who's the biggest ww

1612
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 3: HE promoter of all time, Mark promoter or you know,

1613
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 3: just you know whatever media personality John Cena hype man.

1614
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 3: If John Cena and Joel the Preacher dude had a kid,

1615
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 3: it'd be Fernando Mendoza.

1616
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 5: Here's one from Michael Alpo saying his last name correctly Nisiolic.

1617
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 5: He covers n.

1618
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 2: That's joining us tomorrow, by the way.

1619
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 5: Oh nice.

1620
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 3: So he we're gonna figure out how to say his

1621
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 3: name by themore.

1622
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 5: That would certainly help radio. But he covers I you

1623
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 5: for the Herald Times, and he had a quote yesterday

1624
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:34,640
Speaker 5: that I loved from Brenanda Mendoza. I didn't want to

1625
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 5: get fine and put a bad image out there for

1626
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 5: the university describing his flipping Champs line, what a guy,

1627
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 5: What a guy?

1628
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 3: Sounds like the Colts quarterback.

1629
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 5: I know, how do you get to two of them words?

1630
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 5: That is a great idea.

1631
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:51,600
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of similarities on Hampton. I

1632
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 3: honestly think there's a lot of similarities between Shane Steichen

1633
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 3: and Philip Rivers from a verbal sense.

1634
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:00,719
Speaker 2: Fee was a little more entertaining.

1635
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,719
Speaker 3: Well yes, but I mean in some of their language

1636
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 3: and some of their for sure.

1637
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 5: But but man, if you can vouch for this when

1638
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 5: we get Shane off the record, he certainly has some

1639
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 5: edge to him. Oh but which I would imagine most

1640
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 5: coaches are like that. But just that is a great

1641
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 5: little peak behind the curtain. The dude is he's wired. Yes,

1642
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 5: he's wired like Philip.

1643
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 3: And he loves Philip Rivers like I love Bacon, Notre Dame,

1644
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 3: Tiger Woods, Blue Poweraide, Nacho cheese, Dorito's.

1645
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 2: Ketos in my family, You're the best.

1646
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 5: Notice that family was listed last.

1647
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, Wow, save the best for last?

1648
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 5: Nice saved there?

1649
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:41,600
Speaker 4: What to go?

1650
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 5: You tell James to shut up?

1651
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 4: That was nice?

1652
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 2: I thought.

1653
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 3: James telling me to shut up yesterday on air?

1654
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I did feel I feel bad about that.

1655
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 3: So Jeff and Mark laughed at me last segment, cackled

1656
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 3: at me. And I believe it, Marcus Burton if I

1657
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 3: heard them laughing at Mark's joke and James.

1658
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 2: Boy told me to shut up A week to go,

1659
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, I gotta go. I'm a hug.

1660
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 2: I love the view of the world here. Yeah, he's

1661
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:08,600
Speaker 2: over standing in the corner. While he's standing in the

1662
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 2: corner feeling shame. We're gonna take quick time out. We'll

1663
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 2: talk more Philip Brothers time out. Is there a move

1664
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 2: to be made? Is there more magic to be pulled

1665
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 2: out of the hat for the Indiana Pacers. We'll talk

1666
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 2: about that as we continue in ninety three five and

1667
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 2: one seven five the fan Oh, Mark's on one today.

1668
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 2: It's my favorite Frank Sinatra song. By the way, he's

1669
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 2: got a bunch of them.

1670
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:33,719
Speaker 3: Jeff might be in the mood for a third tonight.

1671
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 10: M m.

1672
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 2: That will not be happening. The third will not be happening.

1673
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 3: Philip Rivers in inspiration on that got the best of

1674
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 3: Frank Sinata right here.

1675
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 9: Oh look a bottle of wine. I'll that get there.

1676
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 9: What's what these beta bros? Oh you remember we went

1677
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 9: to France last summer.

1678
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 2: We just went little pills going. We just found the

1679
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 2: hatch had a whole case of wine delivered from one

1680
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 2: of the wineries we visited last year. Looking forward to that.

1681
01:17:57,800 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 2: Whoa oatally good?

1682
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:01,759
Speaker 5: All right, come on, I might have got no bottle

1683
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 5: of wine deliver. You got a Tito's bottle sitting on

1684
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 5: yo coming over.

1685
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 2: Kevin can bring his Tito's and we won't have a

1686
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 2: good time. Marcus, just simply is there a cam quarter

1687
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 2: set up? What's going on?

1688
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 3: Is this simply Philip Rivers going out back for a

1689
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 3: smoke break. He he's got to get out of the house.

1690
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 3: Too many kids, too much case. I mean you imagine

1691
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 3: this Christmas time with ten kids.

1692
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 9: Well, they've they've said this economy is not that great,

1693
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 9: and they're the retireads are coming out of retirement to

1694
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 9: go back to work. That's what Philip Rivers is doing

1695
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 9: is like, I can't do this anymore. These bills are

1696
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 9: killing me.

1697
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 5: I know the jokes are hilarious, but I genuinely believe

1698
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 5: this dude loves football just a little bit more than

1699
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 5: maybe anybody else. If you think about it, there's no

1700
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 5: and again I'm not, you know, rewriting anything new here,

1701
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 5: but Jack Doyle had to absolutely love football to play

1702
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 5: at the level that he did and be as successful

1703
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 5: as he was. He's younger than Philip Rivers. He's never

1704
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 5: thought about going back out there, and that's the case

1705
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 5: for ninety nine percent of athletes to leave the game,

1706
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 5: and this dude is, to his credit, even over the

1707
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:09,919
Speaker 5: last five years, has kind of retired but never fully retired.

1708
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 5: He signed the one year, one day contract earlier this

1709
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 5: year back in July with the Chargers to retire as

1710
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 5: a Charger and was crying and all of that, and

1711
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 5: then later that month he goes in to Dan Patrick

1712
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 5: show and says, you know what, I can still play,

1713
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 5: and he's just wired like that.

1714
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 3: And now he needs the Chargers to lose to get

1715
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 3: his current team into the playoffs.

1716
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 2: Which circle you know, it would be awesome. What would

1717
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 2: be awesome is if that both of them become wild cards,

1718
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers has to play the Chargers in a wild card.

1719
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 9: Game, Well, you would need one to I understand point

1720
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 9: in time, that would be awesome.

1721
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 2: You know.

1722
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 3: I said it to lead off the show. I said

1723
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:55,600
Speaker 3: it to lead off the show with you guys, but

1724
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,640
Speaker 3: just to reiterate it, it's amazing, you know, on the

1725
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 3: commun in this morning, I thought to myself, can you

1726
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 3: imagine on August tenth me walking into the studio or

1727
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 3: at training camp wherever we were doing the show at

1728
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 3: that point in saying to you guys, hey, guys, Philip

1729
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 3: Rivers will start more games for the Colts this season

1730
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 3: than Anthony Richardson.

1731
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Speaker 9: I was thinking, what's a more ridiculous statement if you

1732
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 9: to come in a training camp and said the Colts

1733
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 9: will be seven and one at the top of the

1734
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 9: AFC at some point this season, and they will also

1735
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,719
Speaker 9: start Philip Rivers a quarterback. If you would have said

1736
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 9: either of those, I think the latter I.

1737
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 3: Had him starting five and two, so like seven to one.

1738
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,640
Speaker 3: I mean, yes, it was obviously a great starter, but

1739
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 3: like to me, Mark, it's got to be the Rivers one.

1740
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 3: It has to be has to be, and that's what

1741
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 3: very well we could be looking at. So again, cults

1742
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 3: to practice at one o'clock today. They've changed your schedule

1743
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 3: to a practice on a Wednesday, since Philip Rivers has arrived,

1744
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 3: and we will get clarity on him and Riley Leonard

1745
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 3: and the knee injury and Brett Rippon looking like me

1746
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 3: at a heigh dance and so on and so forth.

1747
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 2: All right, and we're going to talk to Stephen Holder

1748
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 2: about all of this coming up in just a few minutes.

1749
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 2: He will give us the latest from his perspective to ESPN.

1750
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:13,640
Speaker 2: Speaking of ESPN, sham Sharanya yesterday guys reports that the

1751
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 2: Pacers have engaged quote in active trade talks around the

1752
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 2: league to find a center of the future after losing

1753
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 2: Miles Turner and free agency. Unquote. James, you had rightfully

1754
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 2: said that you you were just too busy with cult

1755
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 2: stuff yesterday and Philip Rivers to worry about that. But

1756
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 2: that's not insignificant. When sham Sharanya reports that Kevin Bowen, so.

1757
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 5: What would you be giving up? I have no idea.

1758
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 5: That's the thing.

1759
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:39,639
Speaker 2: I too, would you give up for the right guy?

1760
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 2: And I haven't gone enough through the list yet, But

1761
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 2: for the right guy, would you trade that first round pick?

1762
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 9: Hell no, hell no, I need my top ten pick.

1763
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 9: And let's that Center is Jokic. I honestly have viewed center.

1764
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen. Well hear me out.

1765
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I viewed center in the NBA a little bit

1766
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 3: like a running back in the NFL. It matters, but

1767
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 3: it it's a luxury like That's just kind of how

1768
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 3: I look at the position. Wings and guards matter more.

1769
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 3: So No, no chance I would do that. And to

1770
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 3: that point, and right now, I'm not trading mathering either,

1771
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 3: but you know that I'm biased.

1772
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 2: I love Matherin. I'm right there with you. KSL and

1773
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 2: Salt Lake City's Ben Anderson's even reported have inquired about

1774
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 2: Walker Kessler for a long time, so that maybe that's

1775
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 2: you're looking.

1776
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 3: At first round pick for Walker Kestler. You might as

1777
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 3: well get the whole state of YouTube.

1778
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 2: But my point of the discussion is that we're not

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01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 2: giving up the first round point. I wanted to throw

1780
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 2: it out there so that we could refute that. But

1781
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 2: we're talking about guys like Walker Kestler. If they go

1782
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:45,679
Speaker 2: out and get somebody and then to your point, Kevin,

1783
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 2: what do you end up giving up for a guy

1784
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 2: like Walker Castling James.

1785
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 3: Were you surprised at all? No injured reserve for Mooney

1786
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:56,520
Speaker 3: War Yesterday the Colts made several roster moves involving cornerbacks,

1787
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 3: but nothing for Mooney Wall. I I hate to even

1788
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:03,719
Speaker 3: say it, but you know, it's the reality of covering

1789
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 3: an NFL team. I mean, he doesn't play the rest

1790
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:06,679
Speaker 3: of the season, right.

1791
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 5: I would think to know because three concussions in fourteen weeks.

1792
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 5: The last one you had before this one you contemplate

1793
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 5: a retirement, had very bad symptoms. Now I'm hoping, I'm

1794
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 5: praying that you were not experience singalo symptoms right now.

1795
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 5: But yeah, I just think that you really have to

1796
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 5: be very, very careful with that.

1797
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 3: Well, and you know what I thought was careful yesterday

1798
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 3: lou Ana Roumo's comments about him. Asked, yes, multiple times,

1799
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 3: I believe you asked it. Asked multiple times about Javarius Ward,

1800
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 3: and again, just to provide context, this is his third

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01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 3: time in concussion protocol in three months. I don't think

1802
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 3: I've ever seen that for a Colts player. Every time

1803
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:55,639
Speaker 3: he was asked about it, he immediately or eventually got

1804
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 3: back to the.

1805
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 2: Human being.

1806
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 3: Yes, human being, human being, not cornerback guarding Jackson Smith

1807
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 3: and Jig Bond Sunday, it was human being. So well,

1808
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 3: I'll wait further clarity on that as well.

1809
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 2: Stephen Holder, we'll ask him all these questions and more.

1810
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 2: Coming up next, It's ninety three five and one oh

1811
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 2: seven five of the Thanks Job as always by the

1812
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 2: one and only Mark Dyton. Here as we get ready

1813
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,680
Speaker 2: for our number three of the Fan Morning Show with

1814
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 2: KBJB Jeff and of course Mark dyketon that whole thing

1815
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 2: and the thing that jumps out of me, Kevin bon Is,

1816
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 2: Tony Kornheiser saying, this feels a little desperate to me. Yeah,

1817
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 2: how else would you describe it?

1818
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 12: Desperate, entertaining, frightening, genius. All got a lot of choices. Yeah,

1819
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 12: let's find out what our next guest thinks of this

1820
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 12: whole thing. He covers the Colts as we know, for

1821
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 12: the ESPN, and he's been a good friend of our

1822
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 12: station for many, many, many years, and he's been all

1823
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 12: over this story is it's been unfolding as the rest

1824
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 12: of us have been watching. Stephen Holder joins us now

1825
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 12: on the Payless Liquors Hotline. If you had to choose

1826
01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 12: one word to describe this, what would your word be?

1827
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 2: Stephen Holder?

1828
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:06,799
Speaker 4: Ouch? Because when you're forty four, and I can relate

1829
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 4: because I'm a few years older. Everything hurts, Okay, My

1830
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 4: net hurts when I got up this morning. My shoulder

1831
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 4: hurts a little bit because that's left a little crooked.

1832
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 4: The back is okay today, but give it time. I mean,

1833
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 4: that's life man in your mid forties. Okay. I don't know, man,

1834
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 4: I'm what I am here for this. Let me just

1835
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 4: tell you as I look my whole take on Sports

1836
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 4: Center yesterday, they asked me what I thought. I said, well,

1837
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 4: I'm a storyteller, and damn it, y'all just gave me

1838
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 4: a great story. So let's go. Let's go. I am

1839
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 4: here for it. I don't know what is going to

1840
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 4: come out of this, but I am on the edge

1841
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:48,560
Speaker 4: of my seat.

1842
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 2: Again.

1843
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 5: We're speaking to Stephen Holder, cole supporter for ESPN and

1844
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 5: our residence celebrity in the media room. Are you a

1845
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 5: great see on TV? Stephen?

1846
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 4: I should be a lot richer if I was a celebrity.

1847
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 4: That just doesn't calculate. But go ahead.

1848
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 5: But speaking of celebrities. Phili Rivers certainly has a track

1849
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,680
Speaker 5: record and a resume that completis to put him in

1850
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame. I'lbeit a little bit later if

1851
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 5: he actually joins the active roster. So let's start there, Steven,

1852
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 5: how realistic do you think it is fan to get

1853
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:22,560
Speaker 5: activated and join this team as their second healthy quarterback.

1854
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 4: I think it's actually really seriously possible. I mean, you

1855
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 4: think about it. You don't make that phone call unless

1856
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 4: this is a real possibility. I think, you know, because

1857
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 4: if you're Philip Rivers, you're not just going in there

1858
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 4: to just you know, maybe sort of kind of if

1859
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 4: we need you, we'll call you. Yeah, I mean, the

1860
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 4: possibility had to be real. And I'm not suggesting that

1861
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 4: he's definitely playing. I'm not saying that. I do think

1862
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 4: there is still some uncertainty about Riley Leonard and whether

1863
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 4: he can play. He hasn't been ruled out, that is

1864
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 4: for sure, right, but they have to have a lot

1865
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 4: of doubts. I mean, you and I talked to Shane

1866
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 4: Stiken on Monday, and the vibe I got for him

1867
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 4: from him was that this is a real thing. You know,

1868
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 4: he didn't have any answers, and he seemed like almost

1869
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:23,720
Speaker 4: admitting like, yeah, well we got problems. You know, you

1870
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 4: could just kind of read his body language, and I

1871
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 4: gotta I gotta tell you, I think if Riley can't play,

1872
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 4: I think they go with Philip and this is what

1873
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:33,679
Speaker 4: we're going to see on Sunday. Yeah.

1874
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 3: When change got real vague about the Brett Rippen answer,

1875
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 3: I thought to myself, Oh boy, they're doing something that

1876
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 3: is out of the ordinary, right.

1877
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 5: That was the old What are we like, Well, you know,

1878
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 5: give us some more time.

1879
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:48,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then sure enough, here we are first time Steven.

1880
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 3: I guess I'm going back and I apologize. But you

1881
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:53,839
Speaker 3: know you were obviously on the beat. When Philip Rivers

1882
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 3: did play for the Colts in twenty twenty and then

1883
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 3: he retires. I've always heard like mixed things on that,

1884
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 3: like did he really want to be done? Did the

1885
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 3: Colts tell him they wanted to go in a younger direction?

1886
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,839
Speaker 3: Remember it was a two year deal originally for Rivers.

1887
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:14,639
Speaker 3: Do you remember ever getting any clarity on that?

1888
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,640
Speaker 4: So if I recall, I think they gave him a

1889
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:19,960
Speaker 4: one year deal because it was like twenty five million.

1890
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:24,919
Speaker 4: But I know what you're referring to and I believe

1891
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 4: it was sort of an unwritten second year, if you will, right,

1892
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 4: Like it was kind of a handshake, like, well, we'll

1893
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 4: do it on paper for one year, but the idea is,

1894
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 4: let's give us two years so we can figure out

1895
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 4: where we're going. And him and Frank Reich have a

1896
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 4: similar relationship to that of Shane Steichen and Phillips, so

1897
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 4: there was really a seamless transition there. I remember the

1898
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 4: day the news came out that Philip was retiring, he

1899
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,599
Speaker 4: made that announcement. I had a long talk with Frank

1900
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 4: Reich on that very day and he was bummed about

1901
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:06,640
Speaker 4: it a little bit because he hadn't quite moved on,

1902
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 4: and I don't think the Colts had either, but they

1903
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 4: did tell Philip we want to consider our options. And

1904
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 4: at the time I think that was the spring where

1905
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford was out there. Obviously Carson Wentz his situation

1906
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 4: coming to its apex in well, apex is definitely the

1907
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 4: wrong word, but an end I guess in Philadelphia, So

1908
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 4: there was there were a lot of machinations going on

1909
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 4: in terms of quarterback, and I think the Colts were

1910
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:39,639
Speaker 4: looking at it. I think mostly Chris Ballard was looking

1911
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 4: at it from the perspective of, look, this is not

1912
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 4: a long term solution, and I owe it to my

1913
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 4: team to try to find one. I agree with that,

1914
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 4: but I also think in retrospect, there really wasn't a

1915
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 4: great long term solution outside of Stafford at that moment,

1916
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 4: and they were not willing to make that deal or

1917
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:02,480
Speaker 4: weren't able to make that deal. So yeah, Rivers, in retrospect,

1918
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 4: looks like if they would have, he looks like a

1919
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 4: better option. I'm sort of full of bustering here, but

1920
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:11,559
Speaker 4: what I would finish by saying is this, I think

1921
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 4: had they come to Philip and said we're all in

1922
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 4: for twenty twenty one, he would have been more likely

1923
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 4: to go through with it. They gave him, They gave

1924
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 4: him an opportunity to consider his options, and when he

1925
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 4: did that, that's when he decided, you know what, I'm

1926
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 4: fine retiring.

1927
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 3: Okay, getting back to present day, we did see the

1928
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 3: Colts on the transaction log yesterday. They worked out a

1929
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:36,760
Speaker 3: quarterback by the name of Seth Hennigan. I believe it's

1930
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 3: how you say it's undrafted free agent out of Memphis

1931
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 3: spent the off season.

1932
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Speaker 4: If you say, so, okay, thank you.

1933
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:44,800
Speaker 3: I was waiting for you to correct me on that.

1934
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,720
Speaker 4: I have no idea, so you're fine with me. So

1935
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 4: I never heard of the guy.

1936
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 3: He's a drafted free agent out of Memphis Jacksonville spent

1937
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 3: the off season with the Jags. I was on the

1938
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 3: practice squad for a month. But that's it, Like they

1939
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:01,720
Speaker 3: didn't do the big quarterback tryout necessary. I think I

1940
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:03,439
Speaker 3: guess there's a report out there that they might have

1941
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 3: tried to get Sam Ellinger off Denver's practice squad. I

1942
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 3: don't know, you know how much that has been confirmed

1943
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Speaker 3: or not. Did you hear of any other quarterback whispering

1944
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Speaker 3: besides just Philip Rivers.

1945
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Speaker 10: No.

1946
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 4: In fact, we we hadn't even heard about what's the

1947
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 4: young man's name, you know, we hadn't heard about Seth.

1948
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 4: Good old Seths, Good luck to you, Seth. We actually

1949
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 4: were told that initially the Philip Rivers workout was just

1950
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 4: that Philip Rivers. And so I think that speaks to

1951
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 4: their what what was said privately, it was demonstrated by

1952
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 4: their actions, and that was they think he's a better

1953
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:47,360
Speaker 4: option than what's out there, even better than Seth apparently.

1954
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 4: And I think Listen. I don't know if if that's

1955
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 4: going to prove to be true, but I also understand

1956
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Speaker 4: how they come to that conclusion. It's bad. Right, we

1957
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 4: are in the second week of December, all right, there

1958
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 4: are no quarterbacks to be had at this time of

1959
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 4: the year. They're just aren't. You can recall I think

1960
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:12,640
Speaker 4: it was I don't know, maybe late twenty ten's do

1961
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 4: you remember the year the Colts had I think in

1962
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:19,080
Speaker 4: week seventeen had no quarterback. They had some injuries, and

1963
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 4: they signed two guys off the street, one being Josh

1964
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 4: Freeman who had been out of the league for at

1965
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:27,759
Speaker 4: least a couple of years. And I can't even remember

1966
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:28,760
Speaker 4: who the second one was.

1967
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Speaker 3: I mean Ryan Lindley.

1968
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Speaker 4: We actually Ryan Lindley.

1969
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Speaker 3: We had Jack Doyle on about an hour ago. Thanks

1970
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 3: for being flexible, Steven, and Jack went over that week

1971
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 3: because I this the only other time, Steven, I can

1972
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:42,759
Speaker 3: recall the Colts being in this die of a quarterback

1973
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:44,879
Speaker 3: situation in again and week since.

1974
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 4: Then, right, And so I think that is a precedent

1975
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:52,120
Speaker 4: for sure, and it speaks to the level of desperation

1976
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 4: you're in at that point. I mean, Ryan Linley was

1977
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 4: selling real estate man and they pulled him all. I

1978
01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:00,759
Speaker 4: think he was in Arizona, maybe like living out in Arizona,

1979
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 4: and they were like, hey, you want to play football

1980
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:05,320
Speaker 4: this week? And he was like sure. And I think

1981
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 4: Josh Freeman was playing in some semi pro league that

1982
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 4: I literally had never heard of, and I was like,

1983
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 4: this has got to be the most ridiculous thing I've

1984
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 4: ever seen. And they actually split those two guys in.

1985
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:19,679
Speaker 4: I think one played red zone and the other guy

1986
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 4: played the rest of the snaps. I mean, this is

1987
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 4: the most ridiculous thing, but it was a ridiculous situation.

1988
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 4: That's where they're at right now. That's how crazy this

1989
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 4: is that that's like the only point of reference I

1990
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 4: can even think of. So maybe Philip Rivers is their

1991
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:34,599
Speaker 4: best option.

1992
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 2: Talker to STEPHENHOLERESPN dot com. He covers the cults and

1993
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 2: there's a lot to talk about. We've talked about health,

1994
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 2: We've talked about what's going to happen to quarterback here.

1995
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 2: I'm still curious, how's this defense going to hold up

1996
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 2: against a Seattle offense that all of a sudden with

1997
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:53,760
Speaker 2: sam Donold and some of the receivers they have, and

1998
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 2: certainly a capable running game. Are you worried about how

1999
01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 2: many points they allow in this game?

2000
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:04,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're missing probably the three best players on defense,

2001
01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 4: So yes, I think when you unless there's some miracle

2002
01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:11,720
Speaker 4: and the forest Buckner gets back this week, I don't

2003
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,680
Speaker 4: know that it's going to necessarily transform things, but it

2004
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 4: would help Mooney Ward being in concussion protocol. I'm sure

2005
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:22,439
Speaker 4: you know we've kind of covered that this week. That

2006
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 4: is very concernings. This is his third time this year,

2007
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:27,639
Speaker 4: so that speaks for itself. You're not going to see

2008
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:32,600
Speaker 4: that guy this week, if ever, right, Sauce Gardner, I

2009
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:35,639
Speaker 4: don't get the sense that he's in play this week.

2010
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 4: And then, as I mentioned already, the Forest Buckner is

2011
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 4: still trying to get back, eligible to return this week,

2012
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 4: but it sounds like next week's more realistic from what

2013
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 4: I understand. So that against that offense and the way

2014
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 4: it's been rolling and JSN at receiver and the way

2015
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 4: that offense has been moving, I just don't know, it

2016
01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 4: has the potential to be ugly. There's no question about it.

2017
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 4: And and the truth is, look, they haven't done a good

2018
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:07,559
Speaker 4: enough job in the past. Rush and Luanaumo admitted that yesterday. Uh,

2019
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:13,760
Speaker 4: they have covered decently, but I think ultimately the personnel

2020
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 4: losses are catching up to him. That that's what it is.

2021
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 4: This defense was designed to be a defense that was

2022
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 4: solid at all three levels with the personnel that they

2023
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 4: had put in place, and they just they don't have

2024
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 4: that personnel right now, and you need to be at

2025
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 4: your best in a game like this, and they are not.

2026
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 5: Stephen Holder. One more from me. So my colleague Donna Russini,

2027
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:37,640
Speaker 5: who I love and respect, she put out there her

2028
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 5: source that Philip Rivers is in better shape than he

2029
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 5: was when he played. So what are your thoughts on

2030
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:50,760
Speaker 5: him being in quote unquote top tier form physically.

2031
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 4: He's probably been doing a little CrossFit, you know exactly.

2032
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:02,559
Speaker 4: I've heard good things about it. I don't know about that.

2033
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 4: I will say this, Look, I don't agree with that

2034
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:08,120
Speaker 4: because I don't think that's seemingly possible. But listen, I've

2035
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 4: had sources tell me things that were ridiculous too, and

2036
01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 4: I wrote them right. I didn't believe it, but I'm like,

2037
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 4: that's what the guy said, right. Fine. I will say

2038
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:22,320
Speaker 4: this one of the things that at least gives some

2039
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 4: I guess context to the idea that this could potentially work. Potentially,

2040
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:31,120
Speaker 4: Philip Rivers couldn't move when he was here. Okay, he

2041
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 4: not only was emobile, he was iMobile and I think

2042
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:37,439
Speaker 4: with a stress factor in his foot. So what are

2043
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 4: we talking about. We're talking about a guy who never

2044
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 4: left the pocket like Ever's. He is the same guy

2045
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:46,920
Speaker 4: now in that respect, so we'll see. I mean, it's

2046
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 4: not exactly the same. You obviously have to be able

2047
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 4: to navigate the pocket, even if you're not running and

2048
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:55,559
Speaker 4: necessarily away from the defense. You still need to be

2049
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 4: able to slide, move, navigate, and those are the things

2050
01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 4: that I think are still a big question mark, you know,

2051
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:04,920
Speaker 4: given how long he's been out of the game. But

2052
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:07,679
Speaker 4: we will see. He was not, though, the most fleetful

2053
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 4: footed guy to begin with, so you know, we'll see

2054
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:12,559
Speaker 4: how much he's fallen off.

2055
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 3: Steven last one for me and again appreciate the time

2056
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 3: and being flexible here with us on this Wednesday morning.

2057
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 3: We could be looking at Philip Rivers starting the final

2058
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 3: four weeks of the season. We could be looking at

2059
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:25,360
Speaker 3: Riley Leonard, you know, starting at some point again or

2060
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:26,760
Speaker 3: I guess so it would be his first start, but

2061
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 3: starting as well, So you know, given that context, how

2062
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:33,559
Speaker 3: much do you think the final four weeks of the season,

2063
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:37,680
Speaker 3: with the Colts likely needing two three wins to get

2064
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 3: in the postseason, how much do you think it matters

2065
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:44,599
Speaker 3: for the future of Chris Boward and or shansdeiken.

2066
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 4: Man. I this is what I believe. I think if

2067
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:53,599
Speaker 4: you are Curly Orsa and her sisters, Carly or Gordon

2068
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 4: and her sisters, I think you have a good sense

2069
01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 4: of what you're in tensions are now. I don't think

2070
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 4: you can let these last four games truly change your position.

2071
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 4: And I don't know what's the right move right, but

2072
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:14,360
Speaker 4: I think you have to go with wherever you're at now,

2073
01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 4: because if you're swayed by this, you're not getting an

2074
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 4: accurate depiction of anything. What are we even looking at?

2075
01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like, what is this? This

2076
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:25,640
Speaker 4: is a train wreck. The building's on fire, you know

2077
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:28,800
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, So like we can't make any judgments

2078
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 4: on that. I don't think as much as I'm not

2079
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 4: defending Chris Ballad or saying psyching like get them out

2080
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:38,559
Speaker 4: of the tailspin, right, But at the same time, you

2081
01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:40,800
Speaker 4: know what are we talking about? This is this is

2082
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 4: not a true depiction of anything, and I don't think

2083
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 4: it really tells you anything about your team. So I

2084
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 4: would say the right move, whatever it is, is to

2085
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 4: not put a lot of weight into what happens down

2086
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 4: the stretch here because it's kind of like not real.

2087
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 4: I mean, Philip Rivers is playing quarterback. That's all we

2088
01:38:57,360 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 4: need to say.

2089
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:00,600
Speaker 2: It's kind of not real. I'm going to put that

2090
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:03,519
Speaker 2: up on a on a wall somewhere like.

2091
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 4: A bumper sticker, right. I think about that every day.

2092
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 4: That's your slogan for life, like everything you see happening

2093
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:10,479
Speaker 4: in the world. Yeah, this isn't real.

2094
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 2: Well it's gonna be real on Sunday afternoons. Steven, thanks

2095
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 2: for stopping by again. Thanks for being flexible today. We'll

2096
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 2: talk to you soon, all right, see you guys. There

2097
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 2: is from ESPN. It's kind of not real. It almost

2098
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 2: feels that way, doesn't it.

2099
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I am been in the toy I've

2100
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 5: been in the Twilight Zone since I started covering the team, though,

2101
01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:33,320
Speaker 5: so I'm gonna stay here.

2102
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 3: I laughed at Brian Brian Goes. I doubt it was

2103
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:38,519
Speaker 3: CrossFit because everyone knows that if someone does CrossFit, they

2104
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 3: let you know they do CrossFit.

2105
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:44,439
Speaker 2: Good point. That is a very Brian that made me chuckle.

2106
01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:47,320
Speaker 2: I saw one yesterday after we get out there too.

2107
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:51,320
Speaker 2: Somebody said there needs to be a thirty for thirty

2108
01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:54,400
Speaker 2: made about just the last twenty four months of sports

2109
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:59,120
Speaker 2: in the city of Indianapolis. I mean, think about it

2110
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 2: quite pressing from the well, but but I mean everything

2111
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 2: if I mean you do have some high highs.

2112
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:06,920
Speaker 3: The Pacers got all the way to Game seven, there

2113
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:11,960
Speaker 3: were some incredible cinematic moments. Obviously, Indiana football season speaks for.

2114
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 9: Itself for due going to the final four Ford Well,

2115
01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:15,800
Speaker 9: you know what, you gotta go back.

2116
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:18,559
Speaker 5: Only a propos when you read that, because I was like, oh,

2117
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:20,640
Speaker 5: it's the Pacers, and well I fever actually had a

2118
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:22,679
Speaker 5: nice run as well. But to your point, I agree.

2119
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 2: But and then you think about having an college football

2120
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 2: championship game here, You think about all star games that

2121
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:30,000
Speaker 2: have taken place here, You think about all the things

2122
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark coming here, all the things that are going

2123
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:35,360
Speaker 2: crazy now at the Indianapolis Colts. It really would be

2124
01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:38,200
Speaker 2: an amazing thirty for thirty for folks who are certainly

2125
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:39,719
Speaker 2: interested in sports in this area.

2126
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 5: Well, sign your boy up. I'm ready to be on TV.

2127
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 2: Mark, start producing that, all right, you and I will

2128
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:45,320
Speaker 2: start getting that taken care of.

2129
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 3: That last question for Steven, do or should these four

2130
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:53,320
Speaker 3: games matter for the future of Chris Bouder Shane Steikin.

2131
01:40:55,439 --> 01:40:57,400
Speaker 2: I kind of agree with what he said where. I

2132
01:40:57,400 --> 01:40:59,800
Speaker 2: think the die has pretty much been cast, you take,

2133
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:03,200
Speaker 2: so the die is just where. Then if it doesn't matter,

2134
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 2: then they're back. I can't imagine that Chris Ballard is

2135
01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 2: back unless all the sudden Philip Rivers comes in wins

2136
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:10,599
Speaker 2: three or four in a playoff game.

2137
01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:13,599
Speaker 3: So it does matter, you know, is that gonna happen?

2138
01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:15,760
Speaker 3: Sounds like a conference championship game. It could only matter

2139
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 3: positively for you.

2140
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:18,599
Speaker 9: Yeah, if he's not back, why do they let him

2141
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:20,360
Speaker 9: deal to future first round picks?

2142
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 2: It's a great, great point.

2143
01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:23,599
Speaker 5: That is a good point, Mark and great one question

2144
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 5: is hard to answer.

2145
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:27,320
Speaker 2: Because the seasons.

2146
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 3: And you know, we're going to get to the end

2147
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 3: of the season and it's gonna get murky with timelines,

2148
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 3: the Colts were out of the playoffs, like Colts are

2149
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:39,720
Speaker 3: out of the playoffs right now. Like I feel like

2150
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:41,519
Speaker 3: if the Colts lose three of their last four, we're

2151
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:43,920
Speaker 3: gonna get the end of season, be like, well injuries,

2152
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:45,800
Speaker 3: you know, to Danie Jones. D I mean they were

2153
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:47,360
Speaker 3: out of the playoffs and Daniel Jones got hurt.

2154
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:49,280
Speaker 2: Like it was.

2155
01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:52,800
Speaker 3: It was spiraling downward before that, right, So.

2156
01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:57,320
Speaker 2: Just you call them in and say, okay, give me

2157
01:41:57,320 --> 01:42:00,240
Speaker 2: your plan to fix this. Once the season is over,

2158
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:02,240
Speaker 2: she brings them in, they have their end of the

2159
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 2: year review of everything that's going on. And at some

2160
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 2: point doesn't she just take off the hat and look

2161
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:11,880
Speaker 2: right in the eyes to Chris Ballad and go, tell

2162
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 2: me what your plan is to fix this? How are

2163
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 2: you going to fix this?

2164
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:19,600
Speaker 3: Didn't he do that to her father last January?

2165
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:22,120
Speaker 2: Well, this is the first time she's doing that review,

2166
01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:23,280
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

2167
01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:26,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, Ballot actually told us on these airwaves back at

2168
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:29,120
Speaker 5: the Combine that Jim Mersey told him to fix it.

2169
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 2: But would we say, up until that Daniel Jones injury,

2170
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:34,880
Speaker 2: he had fixed it.

2171
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:37,519
Speaker 5: No, that's the point that that's what I say. You

2172
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 5: were out of the player losing, They were already sliding.

2173
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 5: So I don't think there is a definitive right or

2174
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:45,280
Speaker 5: wrong answer here. I think multi made good points.

2175
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:49,360
Speaker 3: The point Mark makes is one that I can't get

2176
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:52,519
Speaker 3: out of my head of like, you don't let your

2177
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:55,240
Speaker 3: organization make that trade if you don't think this is

2178
01:42:55,280 --> 01:42:59,400
Speaker 3: the core you're with for the next whatever twenty four months,

2179
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:02,680
Speaker 3: will say.

2180
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:04,559
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think with that move, when again, the report

2181
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:06,479
Speaker 9: was that she said do you want a band aid

2182
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:08,439
Speaker 9: or do you want to fix this for the long term?

2183
01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 9: And they fixed it for the long term by pulling

2184
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 9: the trigger on that trade. Right, wrong or indifferent? You

2185
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:16,439
Speaker 9: are tying yourself to Chris ballor are you least saying

2186
01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:18,639
Speaker 9: we trust you enough to get rid of our next

2187
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 9: two years worth of first round picks.

2188
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:21,760
Speaker 3: So that's on one side of it, and the other

2189
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:24,160
Speaker 3: side of it is we could be looking at the

2190
01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 3: biggest claps the NFL scene in what thirteen years James right,

2191
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 3: twenty twelve bears is that the last time a team

2192
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:31,920
Speaker 3: has started and the man of the cults have started

2193
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 3: and missed the playoffs?

2194
01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:35,200
Speaker 2: Yes, if the cults were in it, and everybody and

2195
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 2: everybody involved goes yeah, but so and I get it.

2196
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 9: That trade happened when it was blue skis and sunshine

2197
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 9: and the cults were feeling themselves and looked like sky

2198
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:45,680
Speaker 9: was the limit. But now reality's starting to set in

2199
01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:48,800
Speaker 9: and everything's it's like, well, you felt good about it

2200
01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:51,640
Speaker 9: a couple of weeks ago. Now the wheels are kind

2201
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:53,600
Speaker 9: of falling off. You still feel as good about it

2202
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 9: as you did, because right now you don't have your

2203
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:57,479
Speaker 9: best defensive player. You don't have the guy you traded

2204
01:43:57,520 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 9: two first round picks for. You don't have those two

2205
01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:02,080
Speaker 9: first round picks anymore, you don't have the quarterback that

2206
01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:06,000
Speaker 9: you had traded for. You're so far down the options

2207
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:08,599
Speaker 9: list that you're picking forty four year old guys up

2208
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 9: to come rescue you, and you still have one of

2209
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:14,639
Speaker 9: the best offensive players in the league.

2210
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 2: On your team.

2211
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 9: I feel like if he's not back, you are setting

2212
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:21,760
Speaker 9: up whatever the new GM would be. You're punting his

2213
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 9: success down the road a couple years because he doesn't

2214
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 9: have any first round picks to try to fix what's

2215
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:29,160
Speaker 9: currently ailing this current team.

2216
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:30,840
Speaker 2: Here. I don't know how you can even judge that.

2217
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:35,240
Speaker 2: Here's Jordan and Carmel, who says definition of insanity sticking

2218
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 2: with Ballard and Stichen and expecting things to change for

2219
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:40,679
Speaker 2: the better. Ballard put us in this position by drafting

2220
01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:44,040
Speaker 2: a quarterback fourth overall with little to no experience playing

2221
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:46,719
Speaker 2: the position. At a high level. He knew that decision

2222
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:49,559
Speaker 2: would shoot him in for additional years having a job

2223
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:52,600
Speaker 2: because it would be tied to a project quarterback. We

2224
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:55,519
Speaker 2: can't keep sticking with his rhetoric of well they've done

2225
01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:57,599
Speaker 2: just good enough. Maybe we can get over the hump.

2226
01:44:57,840 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 2: It's been half a decade. It's ti time to make

2227
01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:01,880
Speaker 2: a change.

2228
01:45:02,240 --> 01:45:05,200
Speaker 3: This topic will have bigger discussion stuff coming. But aren't

2229
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:05,880
Speaker 3: we up against it?

2230
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:07,439
Speaker 2: We are up against it. But we can do a

2231
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:08,800
Speaker 2: very quick checkdown.

2232
01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:14,800
Speaker 4: All right.

2233
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:16,679
Speaker 2: We'll start with the Colts and the Seahawks four twenty

2234
01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:19,920
Speaker 2: five on Sunday. Is Philip Rivers James going to be

2235
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:22,559
Speaker 2: the starting quarterback for the Colts when they take the

2236
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 2: field in the rainy Northwest?

2237
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 5: I don't know. We'll see what the week brings.

2238
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:29,960
Speaker 2: How badly is Riley Leonard hurt. That's the other thing

2239
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:32,080
Speaker 2: we're looking to find out over the next couple of days.

2240
01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 2: Sounds like Shane has left the door a jar a

2241
01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:38,559
Speaker 2: little bit for that to happen, But it also sounds doubtful.

2242
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:41,760
Speaker 3: Kevin, Yeah, I might guess is it'll be Rivers, But again,

2243
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:44,559
Speaker 3: we still got a few days to figure all that out.

2244
01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 3: Brett Rippen is the other healthy quarterback on the practice squad.

2245
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:50,840
Speaker 3: So yeah, Colts get out on the practice field. The

2246
01:45:50,920 --> 01:45:53,559
Speaker 3: rare December Wednesday practice in the Shane Stakeing era. It'll

2247
01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:56,599
Speaker 3: occur today at one o'clock all right Ton College basketball.

2248
01:45:56,680 --> 01:45:59,680
Speaker 2: Last night, Indiana went at home one thirteen seventy two

2249
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:04,439
Speaker 2: over Penn State. Lamar Wilkerson forty four points, ten to

2250
01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:08,439
Speaker 2: fifteen from three point range. That's an Assembly Hall record

2251
01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:11,519
Speaker 2: for points. It's a record for three points made at

2252
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:16,120
Speaker 2: Assembly Hall by an Indiana player. And if you like

2253
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:19,240
Speaker 2: what's happening at Indiana basketball and under this resurgence we're

2254
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:22,080
Speaker 2: hoping for with Darren Derees, you certainly liked that game

2255
01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:22,639
Speaker 2: last night.

2256
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:24,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can see why Aaron DeVries felt the need

2257
01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:26,479
Speaker 3: to get on a plane and make sure that he

2258
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:30,160
Speaker 3: secured the transfer portal of Lamar Wilkerson. I know Kentucky

2259
01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:34,960
Speaker 3: was one of the teams very highly sought after of Wilkerson.

2260
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:37,479
Speaker 3: Forty four points. Yeah, beats Tray Shax and Davis' record,

2261
01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:39,400
Speaker 3: And you know, it's just a reminder watching it. I

2262
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:43,360
Speaker 3: get Penn States terrible, but like Indiana has this ability offensively.

2263
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 3: You know again, I know Marquette struggled as well, but

2264
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:47,720
Speaker 3: they put up one hundred. You know, college teams just

2265
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 3: don't put up one hundred, let alone one hundred and

2266
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:52,639
Speaker 3: thirteen on a routine basis. So the resume is still

2267
01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:55,280
Speaker 3: going to need more substance to it. But man, last

2268
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:58,360
Speaker 3: night was another reminder thirty assists. I mean, they do

2269
01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:01,160
Speaker 3: have offensive firepower that I don't think many teams in

2270
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:02,040
Speaker 3: college basketball have.

2271
01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:05,519
Speaker 2: Also college basketball, last night ball State losing at home

2272
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 2: to South Dakota State sixty eight sixty four. Tonight, pretty

2273
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 2: good night Notre Dame. We'll host Idaho at seven o'clock,

2274
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:14,000
Speaker 2: but I'll be watching number six per Due the seven

2275
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:17,120
Speaker 2: o'clock tip up at Mackie against Minnesota James. That's a

2276
01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:19,479
Speaker 2: fun watch right there. I think good chance for Perdue

2277
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:20,519
Speaker 2: to get back on track here.

2278
01:47:20,920 --> 01:47:23,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, certainly after getting blitzed by Iowa State.

2279
01:47:24,320 --> 01:47:26,840
Speaker 2: All right, there were two NBA Cup games last night.

2280
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:29,920
Speaker 2: Orlando beat Miami one seventeen one oh eight, then Nicks

2281
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:33,160
Speaker 2: over Toronto Raptors one seventeen one oh one. After this year,

2282
01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 2: can we do away with the courts and then do

2283
01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:38,560
Speaker 2: something different with the courts? Maybe I'm over those? Maybe

2284
01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:40,400
Speaker 2: what do you think about those Kevin, you have thoughts

2285
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:42,479
Speaker 2: one way or the other on whenever you tune in

2286
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:45,680
Speaker 2: and you see that eye glaring thing going on.

2287
01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:48,040
Speaker 3: I just remember that that Pacer Celtics sam for years

2288
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:50,439
Speaker 3: back in the quarter final round was an awesome, awesome

2289
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:53,040
Speaker 3: game for the Pacers. Really started their you know, kind

2290
01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 3: of magical run there here.

2291
01:47:54,040 --> 01:47:56,080
Speaker 9: Put as much effort in the NBA Finals courts as

2292
01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:57,439
Speaker 9: you do the NBA Cup courts.

2293
01:47:57,439 --> 01:48:00,160
Speaker 2: How about that Mark You had a note in baseball.

2294
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:02,200
Speaker 9: Kyle Schober five year, one hundred and fifty million dollars

2295
01:48:02,200 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 9: with the Philadelphia Phillies, So good for him.

2296
01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:06,599
Speaker 2: All right, coming up in a moment, we have who

2297
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 2: James to talk about.

2298
01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:10,479
Speaker 5: What Scott Doctorman and talk about IU.

2299
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:12,880
Speaker 2: All right, that's next ninety three five one, seven to five.

2300
01:48:12,920 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 2: The fan is this.

2301
01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:20,000
Speaker 7: It's really amazing because I've covered this league for twenty

2302
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:24,759
Speaker 7: years now and Indiana it's the ultimate Cinderella story. Last

2303
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:29,280
Speaker 7: year was the completely glass slipper, the pumpkins and everything

2304
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:31,519
Speaker 7: for Indiana to do what it did. But this year

2305
01:48:32,200 --> 01:48:34,920
Speaker 7: you look at Indiana and the way it competed against

2306
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:40,400
Speaker 7: Ohio State, and if you remove the forks, the Iu

2307
01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:43,680
Speaker 7: off the helmet and put a running w for Wisconsin

2308
01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:46,400
Speaker 7: or somebody else. You would have never have guessed that

2309
01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:49,240
Speaker 7: that's the team out there because they were so good

2310
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:53,080
Speaker 7: and they were able to handle Ohio State and the trenches.

2311
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:56,040
Speaker 7: They of course had the best quarterback and best player

2312
01:48:56,040 --> 01:48:58,639
Speaker 7: in college football on their on their team, and they

2313
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:01,800
Speaker 7: did it without maybe their best receiver, Omark Cooper. I mean,

2314
01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:04,720
Speaker 7: I'm blown away to see what Kirk Signette has been

2315
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:07,840
Speaker 7: able to do with Indiana because it's just this was

2316
01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:11,160
Speaker 7: not a team They've had stretches, slashes here from there

2317
01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:14,240
Speaker 7: into one Randall l James Harvey Era even to love

2318
01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:17,360
Speaker 7: each other a few years or so with sah Allen,

2319
01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:20,360
Speaker 7: nothing like this. They are legitimately the best team in

2320
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:21,280
Speaker 7: the country right now.

2321
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:25,960
Speaker 5: Scott, I know you were boots on the ground here

2322
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:29,200
Speaker 5: Indianapolis for the Big Ten championship and for those who

2323
01:49:29,439 --> 01:49:32,400
Speaker 5: wanted to be in there indoor and obviously would have

2324
01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 5: loved to be a part of that. Saying you just

2325
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:37,639
Speaker 5: describe what it was like to see that sort of reaction,

2326
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:39,800
Speaker 5: and I know you interviewed like a fan who came

2327
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:42,400
Speaker 5: with his you know, daughter, and there were tears, So

2328
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:44,920
Speaker 5: just s the same for us for one of the

2329
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:50,040
Speaker 5: more ridiculous, crazy great heights in collegetable history.

2330
01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:52,840
Speaker 7: You know, it was an amazing atmosphere because, as we.

2331
01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:55,639
Speaker 2: Know, I mean to say, hey, Scott, can we call

2332
01:49:55,680 --> 01:49:58,360
Speaker 2: you right back? We're having a really hard time understanding

2333
01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:02,200
Speaker 2: on this on this phone, like we call you right Beck. Yeah,

2334
01:50:02,200 --> 01:50:04,320
Speaker 2: I think it just died altogether. So that solved that

2335
01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:05,599
Speaker 2: problem we're trying to get about back.

2336
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:07,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, he sounded like Ohio State's offense trying to

2337
01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 3: move against Brian Haynes a company.

2338
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 5: Honestly, good job got it, Big third and one stop

2339
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:15,759
Speaker 5: and actually I think they had two of them.

2340
01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:18,000
Speaker 3: The one third and one they threw to love or

2341
01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:20,760
Speaker 3: not Love Jeremiah I'm thinking of Jema Jeremiah Smith in

2342
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:23,360
Speaker 3: the end zone. Great coverage there, and then saying that

2343
01:50:23,479 --> 01:50:26,160
Speaker 3: was a weird QB sneak like I couldn't tell ifee

2344
01:50:27,120 --> 01:50:29,840
Speaker 3: like slipped or what. But Indian obviously did a great

2345
01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:31,479
Speaker 3: job there. And then of course you had to kick

2346
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:32,080
Speaker 3: on the last one.

2347
01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 2: All right, we've got him back now, Scott. And then

2348
01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 2: James was asking you about that that great story that

2349
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:36,639
Speaker 2: you had written.

2350
01:50:36,840 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, just the scene there in the Big Ten Championship

2351
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:42,160
Speaker 5: at Lucas Osadam, can you describe what it was like?

2352
01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:44,640
Speaker 4: It was amazing.

2353
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:47,960
Speaker 7: I mean you look at the crowd itself. I mean,

2354
01:50:47,960 --> 01:50:50,400
Speaker 7: Ohio State's just down the road, and they traveled better

2355
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 7: than any other fan base in America. But to see

2356
01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 7: the way both sides just kind of exploded through each

2357
01:50:57,000 --> 01:51:01,280
Speaker 7: and every place seemingly was incredible. But one thing that

2358
01:51:01,320 --> 01:51:03,599
Speaker 7: really stood out to me versus even the other Big

2359
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:07,240
Speaker 7: Ten Championships or bowl games that covered, was the Indiana

2360
01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:09,920
Speaker 7: fans did want to leave. I mean, half hour forty

2361
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:12,400
Speaker 7: five minutes after the game, I'm still out on the field,

2362
01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:16,759
Speaker 7: I'm talking to fans and there's still thousands of fans staying,

2363
01:51:17,439 --> 01:51:20,800
Speaker 7: like wanting to soak up every ounce of the every

2364
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:25,479
Speaker 7: moment that you saw of this incredible event. And the

2365
01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:28,599
Speaker 7: players were so ecstatic. They all wore these Big Ten

2366
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:33,479
Speaker 7: medals around their neck. I remember Tyreek Tucker when he

2367
01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:36,880
Speaker 7: walked into his the interviews, the first thing he did

2368
01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:40,800
Speaker 7: was he pulled over Indiana Big Ten Championship t shirt

2369
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 7: over his pads, just because he wanted to just show

2370
01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:46,799
Speaker 7: he was so proud of himself. But there was tears,

2371
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:51,360
Speaker 7: there was just so much joy and energy, and I

2372
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:54,040
Speaker 7: don't know what that means for Indiana going forward. They've

2373
01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:57,400
Speaker 7: got an incredible story to try to finish here. But

2374
01:51:57,560 --> 01:52:01,000
Speaker 7: what it transpired in Indianapolis was true a magical night

2375
01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:03,879
Speaker 7: and I don't think anybody who was there or witnessed

2376
01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:05,000
Speaker 7: it will ever forget it.

2377
01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:07,880
Speaker 3: And that's Scott document from the Athletic. Great scene setting

2378
01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:10,760
Speaker 3: from Saturday night in certainly what is a night that

2379
01:52:10,840 --> 01:52:14,160
Speaker 3: many people in the state will never ever forget.

2380
01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:14,559
Speaker 2: Scott.

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01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:16,920
Speaker 3: Do you have a Heisman vote?

2382
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:19,880
Speaker 7: I do, yeah, and I turned it in after that

2383
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:24,200
Speaker 7: game that I can't I can't officially reveal it until

2384
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:27,400
Speaker 7: Saturday night, but I can tell you that I hedged

2385
01:52:27,439 --> 01:52:30,360
Speaker 7: my vote on depending who the winning quarterback was, and

2386
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:31,439
Speaker 7: I'll just kind of leave it at that.

2387
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:35,120
Speaker 3: There you go. Yeah, we debated a little bit earlier

2388
01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:37,879
Speaker 3: in the show. You guys had up on the Athletic

2389
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:40,760
Speaker 3: via that Heisman straw poll, and I believe it was

2390
01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:46,080
Speaker 3: twenty five votes and fourteen of them went to Fernado Mendoza,

2391
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:48,320
Speaker 3: with I think it was eleven or maybe ten going

2392
01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:51,040
Speaker 3: to Pavia and one going to Jeremiah Love. Were you

2393
01:52:51,080 --> 01:52:54,559
Speaker 3: surprised to see it that close like Diego Pavia, you

2394
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:57,479
Speaker 3: know what, just a couple of votes away from you know,

2395
01:52:57,560 --> 01:53:00,800
Speaker 3: winning your guys version of the Much Much Taper down

2396
01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:02,880
Speaker 3: nine hundred and thirty votes of the Heisman.

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01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:05,599
Speaker 4: A little bit.

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01:53:05,680 --> 01:53:07,519
Speaker 7: But I guess what I look at is, I mean,

2399
01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:09,760
Speaker 7: we're all we all live in different regions of the

2400
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:13,160
Speaker 7: country and cover different people, and I think, you know,

2401
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:15,080
Speaker 7: we have a lot of people who also work and

2402
01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:17,519
Speaker 7: live in the South. And Diego Pavi has had an

2403
01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:21,120
Speaker 7: incredible run and incredible season, and himself, I mean, coming

2404
01:53:21,160 --> 01:53:24,439
Speaker 7: from New Mexico, and you know, he's you know, he's

2405
01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:27,439
Speaker 7: combined for more than four thousand yards passing and running.

2406
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:30,400
Speaker 7: And you know, Vanderbilt, you know, kind of in the

2407
01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:33,200
Speaker 7: shadow of maybe Indiana. I mean, it's had an amazing year,

2408
01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:36,200
Speaker 7: ten wins for the first time in school history, six

2409
01:53:36,280 --> 01:53:38,879
Speaker 7: wins in the SEC. It's never done that before. And

2410
01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:41,439
Speaker 7: and he's just he's kind of a different, different guy,

2411
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:43,600
Speaker 7: let's put it that way. And I think he calvinized

2412
01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:45,599
Speaker 7: a lot of people in the South. But I'll say this,

2413
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:49,080
Speaker 7: I mean I've seen and covered Indiana three times this year,

2414
01:53:49,640 --> 01:53:53,519
Speaker 7: and one was the blowout against Illinois, which he for

2415
01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:56,479
Speaker 7: Nana Mendoza could not have could not have missed. I

2416
01:53:56,479 --> 01:53:59,360
Speaker 7: mean he was he was throwing bebes out there.

2417
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:03,400
Speaker 5: Tell me, brother, I'm in Illinois alone. Fifty three point loss.

2418
01:54:03,439 --> 01:54:04,080
Speaker 5: It ain't hurt me.

2419
01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:05,800
Speaker 4: It was.

2420
01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:09,920
Speaker 7: It was so surprising because, uh, I mean, basically, my

2421
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:11,880
Speaker 7: whole next week was going to be the pay It

2422
01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 7: was going to be embedded with the winner. It was

2423
01:54:14,520 --> 01:54:16,720
Speaker 7: going to be either stay in Bloomington area or I

2424
01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:18,880
Speaker 7: was going to go to Champagne. And and so to

2425
01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:21,720
Speaker 7: see Illinois get blasted like that was really surprising. And

2426
01:54:21,720 --> 01:54:24,280
Speaker 7: then the next week I covered Indiana play in Iowa

2427
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:26,880
Speaker 7: and they faced a lot of adversity that day. I mean,

2428
01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:29,320
Speaker 7: Iowa is a really good team for being eight and four,

2429
01:54:29,439 --> 01:54:33,520
Speaker 7: and punched them in the face. And uh, Mendozo was struggling.

2430
01:54:33,600 --> 01:54:35,440
Speaker 7: I mean, he had a lot of blitzing that went

2431
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:37,720
Speaker 7: right in his face. And yet he hit a forty

2432
01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:39,840
Speaker 7: nine yard touchdown pass to win the game inside the

2433
01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:41,880
Speaker 7: final two minutes. And then, of course the other day

2434
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:44,400
Speaker 7: against you know, the bully of the Big Ten, you know,

2435
01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:47,800
Speaker 7: the flagship program, and to not only lead him on

2436
01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:50,520
Speaker 7: the game winning drive in the third quarter ultimately, but

2437
01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:54,840
Speaker 7: then then that big pass to Charlie Becker that that's

2438
01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:58,760
Speaker 7: kind of feeled the game late. I mean, it's just

2439
01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:02,480
Speaker 7: it was just a ma arkable run for Fernando Mendoza.

2440
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:04,480
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, I think Curtis Orrick was a

2441
01:55:04,520 --> 01:55:07,760
Speaker 7: really good quarterback for IU last year, did a lot

2442
01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:10,040
Speaker 7: of really good things. Plus he was injured, so I

2443
01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:12,640
Speaker 7: don't want to take anything away from him. But what

2444
01:55:12,680 --> 01:55:15,480
Speaker 7: Fernando Mendoz does. He tips the field, He's got a

2445
01:55:15,560 --> 01:55:18,120
Speaker 7: huge arm, he can hit every pass, and he's just

2446
01:55:18,160 --> 01:55:20,920
Speaker 7: he's a different personality. I mean, you know, he and

2447
01:55:21,120 --> 01:55:23,600
Speaker 7: some of his teammates will can kind of call him

2448
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:26,000
Speaker 7: a nerd, and it's kind of true. But he's really

2449
01:55:26,080 --> 01:55:30,200
Speaker 7: earnest and I think he's absolutely the leader that Indiana

2450
01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:32,000
Speaker 7: needs and could take him to it all the way

2451
01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:32,480
Speaker 7: to the final.

2452
01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:33,040
Speaker 4: Monday Night.

2453
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:36,080
Speaker 2: Scott Talkerman the Athletic joining us here on the Fan

2454
01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:37,640
Speaker 2: Morning Show. I want to go back to something you

2455
01:55:37,720 --> 01:55:40,880
Speaker 2: kind of mentioned very early here kind of the look

2456
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:43,000
Speaker 2: and feel of this team. Like you, I've covered college

2457
01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:44,960
Speaker 2: football for a long long time, and when I watch

2458
01:55:45,320 --> 01:55:50,360
Speaker 2: Indiana play, they are physical, they are fast. They look

2459
01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:54,200
Speaker 2: to me on the eye test like a top five

2460
01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:58,240
Speaker 2: college football team. And you see Ohio State doing. You

2461
01:55:58,280 --> 01:56:00,640
Speaker 2: talked about the third and ones, but Ohio it's reverting

2462
01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:03,880
Speaker 2: to gadget plays to try to get something going. At

2463
01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:06,520
Speaker 2: one point in time, How surprised have you been to

2464
01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:09,600
Speaker 2: see Indiana literally just line up nose to nose with

2465
01:56:09,640 --> 01:56:11,320
Speaker 2: everybody and go, Okay, we're going to be bigger and

2466
01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:12,080
Speaker 2: tougher than you are.

2467
01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:16,160
Speaker 7: It's a shock And it's really a helpful product of

2468
01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:19,520
Speaker 7: the NIL system that you're able to acquire those players

2469
01:56:19,960 --> 01:56:22,800
Speaker 7: and put along the line of scrimmage and be able

2470
01:56:22,840 --> 01:56:26,200
Speaker 7: to go toe to toe with Ohio State, Oregon, Iowa,

2471
01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:29,280
Speaker 7: Michigan last year and teams like that and be able

2472
01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:31,720
Speaker 7: to have that kind of success, and it speaks to

2473
01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:33,240
Speaker 7: the fundamentals that they're in.

2474
01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:36,000
Speaker 2: But on the other day, you know, I mean.

2475
01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:39,440
Speaker 7: Nine tackles for loss against Ohio State held in the

2476
01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:43,040
Speaker 7: fifty eight yards rushing that line, the front wall was

2477
01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:45,680
Speaker 7: very physical at the point of attack. They were able

2478
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:49,240
Speaker 7: to stonewall Ohio State's running game, which was really good,

2479
01:56:49,320 --> 01:56:52,600
Speaker 7: and of course that they're great on every level of defense.

2480
01:56:52,720 --> 01:56:55,120
Speaker 7: And then you know, conversely on the line of scrimmage

2481
01:56:55,120 --> 01:56:58,760
Speaker 7: on the offensive side, I mean, you know, Carter Smith's

2482
01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:01,560
Speaker 7: maybe the best offensive linemen in the country. They were

2483
01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:03,720
Speaker 7: one of the three finalists for the Joe More Award,

2484
01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:07,720
Speaker 7: is the best offensive line in the country. And that's

2485
01:57:07,720 --> 01:57:11,040
Speaker 7: something that couldn't have been done without nil and the

2486
01:57:11,160 --> 01:57:14,920
Speaker 7: transfer portal. I mean, if like Kevin Wilson became coach

2487
01:57:15,120 --> 01:57:18,120
Speaker 7: you ten ish years ago, I mean, he was able

2488
01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:20,800
Speaker 7: to transform the offense really quickly and it was really exciting.

2489
01:57:20,840 --> 01:57:22,720
Speaker 7: But you just they couldn't line up along the line

2490
01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:25,920
Speaker 7: of scrimmage because you have to have a developmental type

2491
01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:29,840
Speaker 7: program that can build those players unless you can acquire

2492
01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:32,440
Speaker 7: them through the transfer portal. And then what's they were

2493
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:37,160
Speaker 7: there and in place Kurk Signetti and Brian Haynes, obviously

2494
01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:39,360
Speaker 7: on the defensive side. You know, they're able to put

2495
01:57:39,360 --> 01:57:44,640
Speaker 7: it all together and be so fundamentally sound and physical.

2496
01:57:44,760 --> 01:57:47,040
Speaker 7: I mean, that's just rare and it just shows you

2497
01:57:47,120 --> 01:57:51,000
Speaker 7: how incredible of a coaching job they've done, because you

2498
01:57:51,040 --> 01:57:53,800
Speaker 7: can't do that without being so technically proficient that in

2499
01:57:54,160 --> 01:57:55,520
Speaker 7: the way the Indiana.

2500
01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:58,920
Speaker 2: Is Thanks for us stopping by today. We really appreciate

2501
01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:00,920
Speaker 2: your viewpoint and keep up the good work over at

2502
01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:02,480
Speaker 2: the Athletic and we'll talk to you again. Soon.

2503
01:58:03,360 --> 01:58:05,600
Speaker 7: All right, thanks for having me appreciate you, Scott.

2504
01:58:05,320 --> 01:58:07,800
Speaker 2: Doctorman, the athletic a little bit more on Indiana, and

2505
01:58:07,840 --> 01:58:10,480
Speaker 2: I think that's the one theme that we keep hearing

2506
01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:13,360
Speaker 2: from the people who cover college football today on a

2507
01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:15,600
Speaker 2: day in, day out, Basis James, just the fact that

2508
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:20,600
Speaker 2: they just look and feel like a real deal college

2509
01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:22,840
Speaker 2: football team that could go up against any SEC team.

2510
01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:26,720
Speaker 5: The trenches is what really stood out to me. They

2511
01:58:27,480 --> 01:58:30,720
Speaker 5: crushed Illinois and the trenches and they've really done that

2512
01:58:30,760 --> 01:58:32,280
Speaker 5: to a number of teams this year, and now they

2513
01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:34,080
Speaker 5: can hang with the big boys, and that's usually a difference.

2514
01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:36,160
Speaker 5: You can find the skill guys, I think at the

2515
01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:38,920
Speaker 5: lower levels and the jmu's other places like that, but

2516
01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:42,080
Speaker 5: to find the trench guys is a big, big difference.

2517
01:58:42,120 --> 01:58:44,080
Speaker 5: And so here we are. Are you with the chance

2518
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:45,080
Speaker 5: to win a national championship?

2519
01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:46,880
Speaker 2: Right, We'll give some of you the last word and

2520
01:58:46,920 --> 01:58:48,600
Speaker 2: then we'll get you ready to go for Wednesday. I

2521
01:58:48,600 --> 01:58:50,800
Speaker 2: know you guys can't wait to get over to S

2522
01:58:50,840 --> 01:58:53,000
Speaker 2: fifty six and see what's happening over there. But we

2523
01:58:53,080 --> 01:58:55,000
Speaker 2: got some work to do yet, So stick around ninety

2524
01:58:55,000 --> 01:58:58,240
Speaker 2: three five one or seven to five to the fan number.

2525
01:58:58,240 --> 01:59:00,160
Speaker 2: Do you think he's gonna wear? Seventeen's already taken by

2526
01:59:00,200 --> 01:59:02,880
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, now, James, any idea and what that might be?

2527
01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:06,200
Speaker 5: No chance would he go with the number of kids

2528
01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:09,920
Speaker 5: he has or something like that, seventy seven. But I

2529
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:12,240
Speaker 5: was reading something and George Bremmer, shout out to my

2530
01:59:12,360 --> 01:59:16,520
Speaker 5: former Colts colleague, was mentioning how he believes if a

2531
01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:20,960
Speaker 5: player goes on IR, their number reopens. So could Philip

2532
01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:23,720
Speaker 5: still wear the seventeen that he's made pretty famous throughout

2533
01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:25,280
Speaker 5: the years.

2534
01:59:25,280 --> 01:59:28,920
Speaker 2: Interesting, I'll ask him about it. All right, What are

2535
01:59:28,920 --> 01:59:31,560
Speaker 2: you most looking forward to going over there today, Kevin?

2536
01:59:31,680 --> 01:59:34,400
Speaker 2: Just hearing people talk about everything, or I.

2537
01:59:34,360 --> 01:59:36,360
Speaker 3: Mean, honestly hearing from Philip Rivers. I mean I spoke

2538
01:59:36,400 --> 01:59:40,880
Speaker 3: to Philip Rivers on Zoom probably fifty seventy times in

2539
01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:42,880
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty season. I've never seen him in person

2540
01:59:43,080 --> 01:59:45,800
Speaker 3: in my life outside of Colts practice from you know,

2541
01:59:45,960 --> 01:59:49,920
Speaker 3: one hundred yards away and wearing a mask. So yeah,

2542
01:59:49,960 --> 01:59:52,040
Speaker 3: that aspect to it is a little bit from a

2543
01:59:52,160 --> 01:59:53,000
Speaker 3: unique standpoint.

2544
01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:55,280
Speaker 5: I've always Kevin wants to sniff them.

2545
01:59:56,360 --> 01:59:59,720
Speaker 3: I've always enjoyed hearing him chat, and I think you

2546
02:00:00,040 --> 02:00:02,960
Speaker 3: it's great insight and obviously has a totally unique perspective

2547
02:00:02,960 --> 02:00:06,440
Speaker 3: on the game of football, and there's football obsessed. So yeah,

2548
02:00:06,520 --> 02:00:09,040
Speaker 3: and you know, health of Riley Leonard and health of

2549
02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:11,840
Speaker 3: Mooney Ward and you know, again, I'll go back to

2550
02:00:11,880 --> 02:00:14,760
Speaker 3: what I said a little bit earlier right now, the

2551
02:00:14,800 --> 02:00:18,160
Speaker 3: culture outside of the playoffs. But if you just lived

2552
02:00:18,200 --> 02:00:20,720
Speaker 3: in the vacuum of only looking at the standings, they

2553
02:00:20,920 --> 02:00:23,680
Speaker 3: really need just to win two a four, maybe three

2554
02:00:23,760 --> 02:00:26,040
Speaker 3: or four. But if you win the right to a

2555
02:00:26,120 --> 02:00:28,640
Speaker 3: four aka the last two games of the season Jaguars

2556
02:00:28,640 --> 02:00:31,640
Speaker 3: and Texans, I think that should be enough to get in.

2557
02:00:33,080 --> 02:00:36,440
Speaker 3: And when you say that, it doesn't sound that ludicrous.

2558
02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:38,920
Speaker 3: But then when you factor in the opponents and you

2559
02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:42,560
Speaker 3: factor in your current state of the quarterback room, obviously

2560
02:00:43,160 --> 02:00:46,000
Speaker 3: it's much more daunting there. So yeah, we'll see how

2561
02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:46,720
Speaker 3: it all plays out.

2562
02:00:47,120 --> 02:00:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, JMV making an appearance real quick here this morning.

2563
02:00:51,800 --> 02:00:54,400
Speaker 2: I dig that right there by the way. Scotty did

2564
02:00:54,440 --> 02:00:57,680
Speaker 2: some research today and he said Tommy Maddox had a

2565
02:00:57,720 --> 02:01:00,000
Speaker 2: six year gap between playing for the nineteen ninety five

2566
02:01:00,160 --> 02:01:04,160
Speaker 2: Giants enjoying my Steelers in two thousand. Little Yetty action

2567
02:01:04,600 --> 02:01:07,920
Speaker 2: is Christmas, Sir, with my name. Our names are on

2568
02:01:07,960 --> 02:01:08,760
Speaker 2: it too. How about that?

2569
02:01:08,920 --> 02:01:13,520
Speaker 8: Actually, no, Spencer Thompson of Thompson Furniture down in Columbus

2570
02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:18,000
Speaker 8: when I was on Thursday. Yeah, Sponsors Butler Action made

2571
02:01:18,120 --> 02:01:21,040
Speaker 8: all of these for everybody here. We got a couple

2572
02:01:21,200 --> 02:01:24,280
Speaker 8: four Aquarium company and got one for James.

2573
02:01:25,160 --> 02:01:27,240
Speaker 2: They got hit the right teams right there. So, oh

2574
02:01:27,280 --> 02:01:30,120
Speaker 2: my gosh, you did, John. This is better than my family.

2575
02:01:33,160 --> 02:01:37,320
Speaker 3: You're gonna go iris, Spencer.

2576
02:01:38,280 --> 02:01:39,960
Speaker 2: You can crash the show anytime you want.

2577
02:01:40,160 --> 02:01:42,280
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest. We've done this show for several

2578
02:01:42,360 --> 02:01:44,000
Speaker 3: years now. I don't know I've ever seen jamb in

2579
02:01:44,040 --> 02:01:45,560
Speaker 3: here at nine fifty two in the morning.

2580
02:01:45,800 --> 02:01:46,400
Speaker 2: This is at stay.

2581
02:01:46,440 --> 02:01:47,600
Speaker 3: I got nervous when I saw.

2582
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Speaker 2: Their names on them. How about that? Gosh, this is great.

2583
02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:55,680
Speaker 2: This is better than making the playoff. Thank you, man,

2584
02:01:55,680 --> 02:01:59,320
Speaker 2: oh man oh man uh I was saying, Tommy, Tommy

2585
02:01:59,320 --> 02:02:01,920
Speaker 2: Maddox is the Scott Johnston. Tommy Maddocks had a six

2586
02:02:02,000 --> 02:02:04,720
Speaker 2: year gap between playing for the ninety five Giants and

2587
02:02:04,760 --> 02:02:07,280
Speaker 2: joining the Steelers in two thousand and one. He did

2588
02:02:07,320 --> 02:02:10,080
Speaker 2: play preseason games in ninety six and ninety seven and

2589
02:02:10,200 --> 02:02:13,240
Speaker 2: Arena League season in two thousand and an XFL season

2590
02:02:13,480 --> 02:02:15,200
Speaker 2: in two thousand and one, so while it wasn't in

2591
02:02:15,240 --> 02:02:18,440
Speaker 2: the NFL, he was playing all the time. And Tony

2592
02:02:18,480 --> 02:02:21,600
Speaker 2: Manderich remember him, suffered a concussion in the ninety two

2593
02:02:21,640 --> 02:02:24,520
Speaker 2: preseason missed the entire regular season, so his Green Bay

2594
02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:27,960
Speaker 2: career officially ended in ninety one. He played for the

2595
02:02:27,960 --> 02:02:30,360
Speaker 2: Colts in the nineteen ninety six and ninety seven seasons

2596
02:02:30,360 --> 02:02:34,600
Speaker 2: before retiring due to his shoulder injury. So Scotty doing

2597
02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:35,520
Speaker 2: good work there?

2598
02:02:35,640 --> 02:02:37,919
Speaker 3: Am I see a negative two degrees on Saturday?

2599
02:02:38,560 --> 02:02:40,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? It's it's insane.

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02:02:40,760 --> 02:02:41,400
Speaker 5: I won't be here.

2601
02:02:41,440 --> 02:02:44,480
Speaker 2: I mean, what the whoaez?

2602
02:02:45,240 --> 02:02:46,640
Speaker 5: I hitn't the dump button on that one?

2603
02:02:49,120 --> 02:02:51,880
Speaker 2: Right to the end. I didn't say that was close enough.

2604
02:02:52,160 --> 02:02:53,040
Speaker 5: He's gonna get in trouble.

2605
02:02:53,160 --> 02:02:55,000
Speaker 2: Kevin's not gonna get trouble. Oh, here we go. I'll

2606
02:02:55,040 --> 02:02:57,320
Speaker 2: get in trouble. The dump button has been hit. I

2607
02:02:57,360 --> 02:02:59,080
Speaker 2: think I was the first time I've had to dump Kevin.

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02:02:59,160 --> 02:03:01,560
Speaker 3: Un Like some others we discussed today, I definitely pulled

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02:03:01,600 --> 02:03:01,960
Speaker 3: out there.

2610
02:03:03,400 --> 02:03:05,920
Speaker 2: I don't know you are on one today. I like it.

2611
02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:08,840
Speaker 3: Bring it back. Gosh, you're not kidding. The weather in

2612
02:03:08,880 --> 02:03:11,960
Speaker 3: Seattle's much better. Fifty degrees in cloud and rain. Take

2613
02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:13,320
Speaker 3: that over what you got this weekend?

2614
02:03:13,720 --> 02:03:16,680
Speaker 5: Oh brother? Like I said, I'll be sending you postcards.

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02:03:17,440 --> 02:03:20,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's postcard weather, but no, I'm

2616
02:03:20,320 --> 02:03:24,920
Speaker 2: gonna take this this personalized yettie. Stay indoors all weekend

2617
02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:27,440
Speaker 2: Long Watch TV. Kevin needs to fill his with bars

2618
02:03:27,480 --> 02:03:29,680
Speaker 2: of soap and wash his mouth out with that language.

2619
02:03:29,680 --> 02:03:30,520
Speaker 2: All right, we gotta go.

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Speaker 4: We'll see you guys,