WEBVTT - Sentimental Value 0:00:01.160 --> 0:00:05.040 What's up y'all. This Sunday, February fifteenth, at three pm 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:08.879 Eastern Standard Time, the FPS crew will be giving their 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:13.080 top five rom coms of all time live on YouTube. 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:16.320 So fresh off the heels of Valentine's Day, come check 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:18.760 out the crew as they give their thoughts on some 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:22.119 of the most romantic or romantic and funny films that 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:24.960 they have seen and feel deserved to be in the 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:28.600 top five rom comms of all time. So tell a friend, 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:30.920 to tell a friend, or tell that friend that you 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:34.000 had Valentine's Day with to come check us out. Leave 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:37.839 your comments, join the conversation. Whether you agree, disagree, or 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:40.239 even give honorable mentions in the chat, we would love 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:44.840 to have you again. That's this Sunday, February fifteenth, live 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:48.960 on YouTube at three pm Eastern Standard Time. Top five 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:52.000 Romantic Comedies of all time. See y'all there. 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:56.680 The frames per Second Podcast. 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:04.040 Welcome to another episode of the Fan Second Podcast. I'm 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:06.000 hout of the evening. My name is Mike. Next to me, 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:09.480 I have Spike across the spike, I have Ken Ken, 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:13.440 I have Rod, and we are doing a movie that 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:18.840 Jalen made us do and it's called sentimental value, and 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:24.679 we're doing this movie because it was nominated for an Oscar. 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:28.200 I meant to look up what it was nominated for. 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:29.400 Does anybody know it? 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.560 Because remember we kept saying it and we were like, geez, 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:40.640 I can look it up real quick. 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:45.360 All right, Well, Jalen is also making me host this 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:52.160 because wait, I thought the director was that's Hamnet. Oh 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:55.160 that's the one I fucked up. Okay, I didn't fuck 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:59.040 this one up. The director for this one is Joaquin Treer. Okay, okay, 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:04.120 I think it's Joachem Jockam. I don't know, but yeah, 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:13.280 sentimental value, Best Picture, Best Actress, and Thennette probably uh for. 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:19.440 Rennette supporting Actors for stealing Scars guard and l Fanning 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:24.840 and another supporting actress, and several Golden Globe nominations. So 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:28.520 it got non Academy Award nominations Jesus Christ, but. 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:36.959 It didn't win anything. That's happened. Well, since you're talking, Rod, 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:42.080 what do you think of this movie? Oh? Yeah, what 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.880 do you think of this book? You know? I hate it? 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:48.000 Job, Well, I guess Jalen is the Cobrit because yeah, 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:50.520 for several reasons that I don't want to get into 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:51.720 that we had a discussion. 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:56.720 It needs to because that ship was I was in 0:02:56.800 --> 0:03:01.160 my house in literal tears. I told every word of 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:04.960 it was so funny. I'm trying to tell you, man. 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:08.080 But yeah, y'all know, man, I'm not a big, a 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.880 big fan of subtitles. 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.400 Without a lot of action or whatever. 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:16.280 Because you know, action can basically I don't really need 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.080 subtitles for that, but like especially dialogue heavy stuff like 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:22.160 I gotta read this ship. It took me three times 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:27.040 to get through this movie. I fell asleep. I got 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:31.160 so mad at you. I'm still Oh yeah, man, it 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:32.920 took me three times to get through this movie. But 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:37.080 I will say that it's elements of it that I 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:39.119 do like that. 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:40.920 I don't hate it. I don't hate it. 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:43.680 I thought I thought it was a solid enough story, 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:46.880 especially with the elements of you know, film direction and 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:47.320 things like that. 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:48.920 Y'all always know I'm interested in that. 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.600 So so yeah, I didn't hate it, And I would 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:56.560 just say I was glad that it wasn't all with 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:59.560 no region. Yeah, it had some English elements in it, 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:02.120 so I was like, all right, cool, all right, I 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:02.520 could do. 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:04.320 This, and then when we're back, you're like, God, damn it. 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:06.160 Yeah, I was, like I thought every time I heard 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:09.280 the American music, I thought it was gonna be English, 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:10.320 but then they fucked me up. 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:12.200 It's like, oh shit, is still no reason? Like what 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:15.120 the hell? But nah, it was. 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:18.000 It was alright enough balance and I liked that they 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:20.320 played into that too in the story. Yeah, and I 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:22.280 thought that was cool. So yeah, man, I thought I 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:24.200 thought it was actually pretty solid once I finished it. 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:27.720 Okay, it's pretty solid for rod Ken. What did you 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:28.480 think of this moving? 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:32.200 Funny thing is after we finished recording. 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:37.040 I actually watched it that night while I was editing 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:42.279 whatever we recorded Thursday, because it took two hours to 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:44.120 get through all of that. So by the time I 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:46.839 finished the movie, I was down with editing and uploading 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:52.480 the thing. So it really helped past the time by 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:57.440 watching it. 0:04:57.520 --> 0:04:59.760 Wait, so you watched it was editing at the same time. 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:04.159 Oh you see my monols? Right? Yeah? I have, but 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.200 see that. But see, that'd be my dilemma because I 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:07.279 gotta read the text. 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:11.360 Oh, I mean I could glance over and yeah and 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:13.600 read real quick and then glance back over it. 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:23.279 I'm shaking. They gonna get you again. I've been told y'all. 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:25.320 That was the thing that they said piss them off 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:27.400 the most is when y'all talk about how you watch 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.480 it and don't pay attention because you're over the multitasking. 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:34.200 Did you like the movie? 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:36.600 Fine, No, we can, we can, uh, we can take 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:37.080 that out there. 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.640 No, No, that you make a good point. 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:43.000 But but I wasn't able to pay anyway. 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:48.320 Yes, yes, because I was waiting for something meaningful to happen. 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:57.919 When happened because details and the dollars, so I was 0:05:57.960 --> 0:05:58.320 all in. 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:01.880 I was like it was going somewhere because I was 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.200 so confused. 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:07.080 When I read the thing, and I'm like, okay. 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:09.280 So the fathers, the mom's dad, the father's gonna come 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.840 back and they're gonna have this friction and it's gonna 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:12.440 be between them. 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:13.240 But it wasn't. 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.720 It took place with him over there, her over here, 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.760 and and there was never. 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:23.119 This real big sort of thing that took place because 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:27.159 it was all through l Fanning's character, I guess. So 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:31.560 when it was over, I was like, okay. But when 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:35.320 I was going to sleep after I was done, I 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:38.000 kept thinking about it, like it kept it stayed. The 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:40.520 movie fucking stayed with this nice I couldn't get it 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:42.120 out of my head because I'm like, there has to 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.680 be more to this film than just that for it 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:48.479 to receive all of these nominations. I know, I'm going 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.960 a long way around about did I like it or not? 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:54.360 And I don't think it was bad, but there was something. 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:56.279 I feel like there's something there. I just don't know 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:58.120 what it is. It felt like it was more profound. 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:00.640 I just don't know what it is. But for the 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:02.360 most part, when I was down, I was like. 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:03.039 That's it. 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:08.800 I was, yeah, I'm sorry, but I feel like there's something. 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:10.760 I feel like I don't even need to ask this question. 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:14.240 Do you don't have to? What did you think of this? Dude? 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:18.840 You mean like a great Swedish film about filmmaking that 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:20.040 I have to read the dialogue? 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:23.640 Did I like it was trade? Jalen should have been 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:28.840 on Jalen should have been on this review to talk 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:32.360 about this ship man. You're right, I don't think it 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.000 was trash. It's not okay, I. 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:40.520 Know, but from what it was, I get what y'all 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:42.440 have saying. I'd like that they made the house of character. 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:46.920 That was cool. I'm not trying to I want people 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:48.720 to know how much. I did not enjoy this. I 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.680 think it's I still think it's trash. And I was 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.280 like what Ken said, like all this for nothing, like 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:59.760 what the funk happened. So it's a weirdly written story. 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:01.760 To me, it is anyway, But I mean I like 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:04.200 how they told it, like through film telling, like through 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.760 being a director, and give them like reconciling through that, 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.080 and it would have not reconciling but just kind of 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:10.960 getting to know each other. 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.480 They took a long way around to get to the point, 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:14.200 but go ahead, Mike. 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.520 I did not want to fucking watch this at all. 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:24.960 I was definitely cursing, jailing out when I hit play, 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.400 and that motherfucker said two hours and thirty something minutes. 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:32.040 And usually that kind of thing is fine because I 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.520 can watch it while I work, so I don't mind. 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.040 But I couldn't do. I didn't know it was subtitled 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:39.800 because it's stelling Scarsguard. I know he's not from here, 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.760 but I've mostly known him from like andoring shit, so 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.600 I was like, okay, an el Fanny. So I didn't 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:52.000 know it was a Norwegian film, y'all. I can't front 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:55.160 I was I was in it. I was in it. 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:59.800 Here's the problem. I would never watch this again. I 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.680 never watched this again. I do think it was a 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:06.560 beautiful film. I think the story was beautiful. I think 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.360 the dialogue was beautiful. I think the way they shot 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:13.320 it was beautiful. But it is absolutely not something I 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:16.520 would ever hit play on again because it's too goddamn long. 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:22.120 Like in Rod's words, it's offensively long, and I don't 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:26.360 think the length was justified in my personal opinion. But 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:30.520 I still think it was a beautiful film. So Ken's 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:32.280 looking at me like I'm out my goddamn mind. So 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:33.360 let's go ahead and jump into this. 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:36.920 Not necessarily because again, like I was, you know something 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:40.800 there when I was going to sleep, I was just 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:43.719 thinking about the movie as a whole, and I'm sure 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:46.319 we're gonna break it down. So so I'll let you 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:47.120 go ahead and get started. 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:49.520 So we're out here all day. Well, I will say this, 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:51.600 and this can stay if you want it to, and 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:53.040 it can come out if you want. It doesn't matter 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:56.320 to me depending on where you watched it. The subtitles 0:09:56.320 --> 0:10:00.520 were fucked up, Yes, they were fucking up genders and 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:05.240 they were leaving out certain sentences. So if you if 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:09.400 you actually paid the nine ninety nine on Amazon, the 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:12.440 subtitles were fine, but I was actually reading online that 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:17.360 the subtitles on other platforms were all fucked up. Yeah, 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:19.800 so I could see even if you were trying to 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:22.680 pay attention, if you went to a certain platform, the 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:26.040 subtitles were completely off. Do you have to use context clues? 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:28.480 So that could be part of the reason why y'all 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:30.720 were just like, nothing's happening, or it could just be 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:34.280 that this shit was boring and nothing fucking happened. So, yeah, 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:36.800 the beginning tells the story of the house and the 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.959 generations of a family within it. Spike, what'd you think 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:44.320 of that? The opening narrated part, I thought I was 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:47.600 going crazy because it's with no subtitles on them I heard. 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.679 At first, So I'm like, ixt in real time, and 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:53.240 y'all like, is just what They're not speaking English? 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.199 What's going on? They're not even going to like explain 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:56.120 us what they said. 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:58.600 Then I had to look it up and realize that 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:00.000 it was in a different line. 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:03.360 I don't want to help jailing out, yeah, because he's 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:05.719 probably gonna have to edit most of the because you 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:08.720 don't want to say that, like the fact. 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:10.719 That we watched the bootleg. I kind of had to 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:14.480 pay ninety nine for it. Oh, I couldn't watch the ship. 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.600 I couldn't watch this ship. I paid for it. I 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:20.760 take that back then. 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.520 Yeah, I mean it was fine. The house being a 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:26.040 part of the store I thought was cool. 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:31.840 Though, Okay, Rod, Yeah, yeah, I mean I wasn't annoyed. 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:35.959 I wasn't annoyed, but but I did see that they 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.080 were taking time on the way they were shooting it, 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:42.160 so that that part was intriguing seeing them. I think 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:45.040 they started off very early on showing the dynamic of 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.679 the family or whatever, and I'm trying to listen to 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:50.000 the family arguing, and so I knew that was gonna 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:50.840 be a big part of the story. 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:52.600 So that was intriguing. Yeah. 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:54.800 So I think we're gonna probably end up having a 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:58.080 good discussion about the movie overall, because I think there 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:01.360 are elements here. But just the beginning, I was like, 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:03.880 oh shit, the fucking house on it, I. 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:07.880 Thought, you always I'm like, oh, this is about to 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:09.760 be good. I mean, the Gambner said it. They acted 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:10.640 like the house was a person. 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:15.240 So yeah, yeah, but taking the house now for the movie, 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:18.080 like you can see like the house and it's built 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:19.920 and you get in there and then there's all the 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.200 arguing and stuff, and then you see the cracks in 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:25.200 the house, which were you know, of course, visually used 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.160 to represent what's going on within the relationship and this 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:31.000 family structure. So they did a good job of kind 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.560 of setting that up in the beginning, using the house, 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:38.559 you know, as as an establishing character about where they 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:45.360 eventually went and uh, and how we're gonna start to 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:46.160 where we end. 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:48.960 Yes, so you did pick that up. 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:52.800 Yeah, I was paying attention to the movie. 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:56.280 Yeah, No, I thought the opening dialogue was really interesting 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:59.000 and and same with you. I like that they focus 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:02.120 on the crack, and they didn't specifically say why they 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.280 were focusing on the crack, But once you get to 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:06.320 the end of the movie, you realize why they were 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:10.720 putting so much emphasis on the the structural issue, because 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:12.600 it wasn't just the crack. It starts on the outside. 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:15.440 It shows there's an issue with the foundation of the house, 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.120 and then it goes in. You see the crack goes 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:21.280 all the way up the wall. And I like how 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:23.920 it did that, and it kind of I can't remember 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:25.760 exactly what it said, but it kind of gives the 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:27.960 implication that the house is a character in the story, 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.480 so I like that. But yeah, then it jumps forward 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:35.600 do we meet adult Nora who's acting in a play. 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.520 What did y'all think of this scene and her panic attack? 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:39.520 This is good too. 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.680 It reminded me of Black Swan, how she was having 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:44.640 that attack, like it was almost like an attack that 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:46.280 she would I guess it was an attack that she 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:47.120 was having a Black. 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:50.240 Swan, but it reminded me of that. And then when 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:54.800 she finally performed, I was like, whoa damn. That was good. 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.600 And I like how they didn't show the whole performance, 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:01.719 but you still knew that shit, and they did that 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:03.040 throughout the film too, so I thought that. 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:04.000 I thought that was cool. 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.400 Yep, the pan attacks and hopefully by the time we 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:10.720 get to the end of it was one of the 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:12.480 things that I went back to when I got to 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:14.520 the end of the movie and there was something else 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:19.120 that happened that show why that was important because there 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:20.880 were things that we didn't know until we got towards 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:26.680 the end, but you know, it was establishing that something 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:29.800 was wrong with her. She was messed up, but she 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:32.920 was highly skilled in what she was able to do, 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:34.720 and they after talk her down, talk off the ledge, 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:36.040 get her out there, and when she got out there, 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.560 she killed it, and uh and she was all she was. 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:42.520 She was good again, you know from what we've. 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:45.280 Seen, you know, throughout the rest of the movie. 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:48.880 But later on it was something about the painting. 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:50.640 If we'll get there, and I can remember what it 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:53.080 was that I thought was really that it was a 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.240 really really important piece to the movie. 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:59.440 M I thought it was just well, I thought she 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.200 was gonna mess so the same. But then once she 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.120 went out there and killed it, like what you said, Roder, 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:07.120 I figured it was part of her process, like how 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.680 some actors have these routines that they do before they 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:10.120 go do it. 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:14.360 So I attributed to a process versus what it eventually, 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.240 I didn't think about that. Yeah, I didn't think about 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.400 that either, especially once we get to the end and 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:21.800 we see what kind of person she is, which we 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.200 will get to. You would love to have more content 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.840 from Frames per second. Become a patron where you can 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:30.040 contribute to what we review and discuss. 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It was a bit long, but 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:08.120 panic attacks can last that long, so I think they 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:09.840 just wanted to sit with it, So I liked it. 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.640 But after that it jumps again to what is the 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:18.960 funeral of Agnes and Nora's mother Agnes sorry is Nora's sister. Unexpectedly, 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.880 they're a strange father. Gustav played by Stelling Scar's garb 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:26.200 my home boyfriend andor shows up. Rob. What were you 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:30.640 picking up about their relationship that it was a bit strange, 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:32.440 a strange relationship. 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:34.840 But I kind of got that from the beginning, like 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:37.680 I was saying, because you can hear them arguing and 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:41.160 things like that, so you knew something happened between the parents. 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.520 And then just like from how she was just like, yo, 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:46.520 he's here, why is he here? So I knew it 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:51.560 was in a strange relationship. When he showed up, I 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:53.920 just didn't know how that was going to play into 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:54.520 the story. 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.640 I didn't know, you know. So I like how that 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:04.040 played into the story personally clearly. 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:06.480 It's almost like they haven't seen each other in a while. 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:13.960 He saw her, he kind of wanted to go, uh consoler, 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:19.720 but he opted out and uh went off and she 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:23.760 was walking around taking this little boy to a tour 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:28.040 of the house, and she was telling the story of 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:31.560 how they used the fireplace as a way to kind 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:33.720 of hear things that were that were going on. She 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.359 was giving her a version of of the story of 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:36.960 their past. 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.000 She almost made it sound like it was a good thing. 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:44.320 And then she started to listen and then the things 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:47.119 he was saying almost was a reminders slash trigger to 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:49.600 what life was like when they lived. 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:51.520 In the house, and that she was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:51.919 we got to go. 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:54.080 And that's where she went down and basically cuss. 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:56.199 The South like oh, I ain't know who's gonna be here, 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.960 et cetera. And then they kind of went and had 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:02.600 this sort of weird sort of you know, reconnection. 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.679 Yeah I forgot about that part. Yeah, she it was. 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:08.600 It was almost like she was startled because she was like, wait, 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:11.960 she remember hearing that voice. So it was almost like 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.240 you imagine like not knowing that motherfucker's there, then you 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:17.280 open it up and you hear them, Yeah that's that's yeah, 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:19.720 I'm meant to bring that up again. 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.959 We go to the hot house part of it, like 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:24.239 you didn't know here and then you hear it. 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:27.239 Was like, oh shit, is that in her head? 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:29.840 Y'all liked that you could tell that they were a strange, 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:32.200 like she didn't mess with her dad. I wonder what 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:35.639 the kid would play into it, So I was wondering, like, 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:38.680 would that be the same way since he wasn't around 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:40.840 with the kid feel the same way? Had they been 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:43.440 talking bad about it or did he have a uniquely 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:45.240 different relationship with which we said he did. 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:52.000 Yeah, yeah, I just picked up the Nora was really 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:55.680 hurt by the estrangement, but Agnes was a bit more forgiving. 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:58.439 So that was the part that I was more interested in. 0:18:58.440 --> 0:18:59.960 And I was wondering where that was going to go 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:01.800 because it seemed like they didn't all the ways see 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:04.919 eye to eye on how they should be treating him. 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:07.200 So I thought that was going to be an interesting dynamic. 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:10.960 But the next day, Gustav has brunch with Nora. He 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:13.000 tells her he has something he wants to ask her 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:15.880 and it's really important. So they meet up the next 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:18.760 day where he offers her a role in a film 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.920 that he's producing. Spike, what did you think about how 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:23.160 that brunch went? 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:28.200 As expected as far as how they treated him when 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:30.240 he first got there. I didn't think that she would 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:32.240 do it at all. I thought they would stick with 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:35.679 that throughout the plot. I was surprised that she came around. 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:41.520 Came around at the end. Okay, well, I mean after 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:51.520 the loan. Yeah. Her reaction was it's almost like she 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:54.720 was aware at the time of what she thought he 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:55.920 was really asking. 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:58.760 Was you want to use me because I'm really good 0:19:58.800 --> 0:19:59.840 to revive your career. 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:01.760 That's how she looked at it. 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:05.000 And he hasn't made a movie in a while, and 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:07.119 I guess he has had a hidden while or whatever, 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:09.919 but it's been a minute, and she was like, you 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:13.840 don't really want to re establish a relationship with me. 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:18.200 You want to use me for your own personal benefits, 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:22.919 you know, And that's not a true daughter, you know, 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:24.160 father relationship. 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:26.240 So she got incredibly offended. 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:29.399 And probably felt some kind of way seeing how gentle 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:32.040 and kind he was with you know, the lady that 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:34.800 came up that was serving them, you know, and she 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.080 probably didn't see or have a lot of that when 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:40.639 she was growing up. So to see that this version 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:44.439 of this man that you dine grow up with, you know, 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:49.720 probably also cause her that the way that she did. Yeah, 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:54.040 she definitely resented him. What was the actual question though. 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:57.600