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Speaker 1: What's up y'all. This Sunday, February fifteenth, at three pm

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Speaker 1: Eastern Standard Time, the FPS crew will be giving their

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Speaker 1: top five rom coms of all time live on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: on YouTube at three pm Eastern Standard Time. Top five

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Speaker 2: The frames per Second Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Fan Second Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: hout of the evening. My name is Mike. Next to me,

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Speaker 1: I have Spike across the spike, I have Ken Ken,

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Speaker 1: I have Rod, and we are doing a movie that

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Speaker 1: Jalen made us do and it's called sentimental value, and

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Speaker 1: we're doing this movie because it was nominated for an Oscar.

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Speaker 1: I meant to look up what it was nominated for.

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Speaker 1: Does anybody know it?

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Speaker 3: Because remember we kept saying it and we were like, geez,

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Speaker 3: I can look it up real quick.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, Jalen is also making me host this

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Speaker 1: because wait, I thought the director was that's Hamnet. Oh

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Speaker 1: that's the one I fucked up. Okay, I didn't fuck

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Speaker 1: this one up. The director for this one is Joaquin Treer. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: I think it's Joachem Jockam. I don't know, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: sentimental value, Best Picture, Best Actress, and Thennette probably uh for.

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Speaker 3: Rennette supporting Actors for stealing Scars guard and l Fanning

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Speaker 3: and another supporting actress, and several Golden Globe nominations. So

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Speaker 3: it got non Academy Award nominations Jesus Christ, but.

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Speaker 1: It didn't win anything. That's happened. Well, since you're talking, Rod,

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Speaker 1: what do you think of this movie? Oh? Yeah, what

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Speaker 1: do you think of this book? You know? I hate it?

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Speaker 4: Job, Well, I guess Jalen is the Cobrit because yeah,

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Speaker 4: for several reasons that I don't want to get into

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Speaker 4: that we had a discussion.

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Speaker 1: It needs to because that ship was I was in

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Speaker 1: my house in literal tears. I told every word of

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Speaker 1: it was so funny. I'm trying to tell you, man.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, y'all know, man, I'm not a big, a

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Speaker 4: big fan of subtitles.

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Speaker 1: Without a lot of action or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Because you know, action can basically I don't really need

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Speaker 4: subtitles for that, but like especially dialogue heavy stuff like

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Speaker 4: I gotta read this ship. It took me three times

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Speaker 4: to get through this movie. I fell asleep. I got

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Speaker 4: so mad at you. I'm still Oh yeah, man, it

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Speaker 4: took me three times to get through this movie. But

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Speaker 4: I will say that it's elements of it that I

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Speaker 4: do like that.

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Speaker 1: I don't hate it. I don't hate it.

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Speaker 4: I thought I thought it was a solid enough story,

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Speaker 4: especially with the elements of you know, film direction and

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Speaker 1: Y'all always know I'm interested in that.

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Speaker 4: So so yeah, I didn't hate it, And I would

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Speaker 4: just say I was glad that it wasn't all with

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Speaker 4: no region. Yeah, it had some English elements in it,

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Speaker 4: so I was like, all right, cool, all right, I

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Speaker 1: This, and then when we're back, you're like, God, damn it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was, like I thought every time I heard

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh shit, is still no reason? Like what

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Speaker 4: It was alright enough balance and I liked that they

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Speaker 4: thought it was actually pretty solid once I finished it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's pretty solid for rod Ken. What did you

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Speaker 2: Funny thing is after we finished recording.

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Speaker 3: I actually watched it that night while I was editing

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Speaker 1: Wait, so you watched it was editing at the same time.

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Speaker 1: Oh you see my monols? Right? Yeah? I have, but

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Speaker 1: see that. But see, that'd be my dilemma because I

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Speaker 3: Oh, I mean I could glance over and yeah and

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Speaker 1: I'm shaking. They gonna get you again. I've been told y'all.

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Speaker 1: That was the thing that they said piss them off

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Speaker 1: the most is when y'all talk about how you watch

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Speaker 1: Did you like the movie?

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Speaker 2: Fine, No, we can, we can, uh, we can take

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Speaker 1: No, No, that you make a good point.

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Speaker 3: But but I wasn't able to pay anyway.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, because I was waiting for something meaningful to happen.

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Speaker 4: When happened because details and the dollars, so I was

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Speaker 3: I was like it was going somewhere because I was

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Speaker 1: When I read the thing, and I'm like, okay.

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Speaker 3: So the fathers, the mom's dad, the father's gonna come

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Speaker 1: But it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: It took place with him over there, her over here,

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Speaker 3: This real big sort of thing that took place because

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Speaker 3: it was all through l Fanning's character, I guess. So

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Speaker 3: when it was over, I was like, okay. But when

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Speaker 3: kept thinking about it, like it kept it stayed. The

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Speaker 3: to receive all of these nominations. I know, I'm going

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Speaker 3: a long way around about did I like it or not?

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Speaker 3: And I don't think it was bad, but there was something.

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Speaker 3: I feel like there's something there. I just don't know

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Speaker 3: what it is. It felt like it was more profound.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know what it is. But for the

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Speaker 3: most part, when I was down, I was like.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 2: I was, yeah, I'm sorry, but I feel like there's something.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I don't even need to ask this question.

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Speaker 1: Do you don't have to? What did you think of this? Dude?

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Speaker 5: You mean like a great Swedish film about filmmaking that

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Speaker 5: I have to read the dialogue?

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Speaker 1: Did I like it was trade? Jalen should have been

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Speaker 1: on Jalen should have been on this review to talk

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Speaker 1: about this ship man. You're right, I don't think it

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Speaker 1: was trash. It's not okay, I.

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Speaker 5: Know, but from what it was, I get what y'all

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Speaker 5: have saying. I'd like that they made the house of character.

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Speaker 1: That was cool. I'm not trying to I want people

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Speaker 1: to know how much. I did not enjoy this. I

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Speaker 1: think it's I still think it's trash. And I was

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Speaker 1: like what Ken said, like all this for nothing, like

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Speaker 1: what the funk happened. So it's a weirdly written story.

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Speaker 5: To me, it is anyway, But I mean I like

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Speaker 5: how they told it, like through film telling, like through

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Speaker 5: being a director, and give them like reconciling through that,

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Speaker 5: and it would have not reconciling but just kind of

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Speaker 3: They took a long way around to get to the point,

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Speaker 3: but go ahead, Mike.

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Speaker 1: I did not want to fucking watch this at all.

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Speaker 1: I was definitely cursing, jailing out when I hit play,

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Speaker 1: and that motherfucker said two hours and thirty something minutes.

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Speaker 1: And usually that kind of thing is fine because I

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Speaker 1: But I couldn't do. I didn't know it was subtitled

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Speaker 1: because it's stelling Scarsguard. I know he's not from here,

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Speaker 1: but I've mostly known him from like andoring shit, so

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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, an el Fanny. So I didn't

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Speaker 1: know it was a Norwegian film, y'all. I can't front

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Speaker 1: I was I was in it. I was in it.

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Speaker 1: Here's the problem. I would never watch this again. I

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Speaker 1: never watched this again. I do think it was a

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Speaker 1: beautiful film. I think the story was beautiful. I think

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Speaker 1: the dialogue was beautiful. I think the way they shot

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Speaker 1: it was beautiful. But it is absolutely not something I

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Speaker 1: Like in Rod's words, it's offensively long, and I don't

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Speaker 1: I still think it was a beautiful film. So Ken's

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Speaker 1: let's go ahead and jump into this.

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Speaker 3: Not necessarily because again, like I was, you know something

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Speaker 3: there when I was going to sleep, I was just

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Speaker 3: thinking about the movie as a whole, and I'm sure

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Speaker 3: we're gonna break it down. So so I'll let you

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Speaker 3: go ahead and get started.

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Speaker 1: So we're out here all day. Well, I will say this,

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Speaker 1: and this can stay if you want it to, and

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Speaker 1: it can come out if you want. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: to me depending on where you watched it. The subtitles

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Speaker 1: they were leaving out certain sentences. So if you if

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Speaker 1: subtitles were fine, but I was actually reading online that

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Speaker 1: the subtitles on other platforms were all fucked up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: subtitles were completely off. Do you have to use context clues?

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Speaker 1: So that could be part of the reason why y'all

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Speaker 1: the beginning tells the story of the house and the

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Speaker 1: of that? The opening narrated part, I thought I was

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Speaker 1: going crazy because it's with no subtitles on them I heard.

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Speaker 5: At first, So I'm like, ixt in real time, and

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Speaker 5: y'all like, is just what They're not speaking English?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? They're not even going to like explain

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Speaker 5: Then I had to look it up and realize that

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Speaker 5: it was in a different line.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to help jailing out, yeah, because he's

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Speaker 3: probably gonna have to edit most of the because you

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Speaker 3: don't want to say that, like the fact.

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Speaker 1: That we watched the bootleg. I kind of had to

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Speaker 1: pay ninety nine for it. Oh, I couldn't watch the ship.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't watch this ship. I paid for it. I

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Speaker 1: take that back then.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it was fine. The house being a

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Speaker 5: part of the store I thought was cool.

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Speaker 1: Though, Okay, Rod, Yeah, yeah, I mean I wasn't annoyed.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't annoyed, but but I did see that they

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Speaker 4: they started off very early on showing the dynamic of

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Speaker 1: So I attributed to a process versus what it eventually,

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Speaker 1: slash frames per second. Yeah, I thought this scene was great.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know, you know. So I like how that

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Speaker 2: It's almost like they haven't seen each other in a while.

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Speaker 2: She almost made it sound like it was a good thing.

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Speaker 2: In the house, and that she was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah I forgot about that part. Yeah, she it was.

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Speaker 5: Y'all liked that you could tell that they were a strange,

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Speaker 2: Was you want to use me because I'm really good

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because the movie, No, I don't think he would

436
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: have came to her if he thought she wasn't good.

437
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,199
Speaker 1: I think he was being truthful. He came and saw it,

438
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 1: but he left during intermission. That's fucked up. Well you

439
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: say he had his reasons. Yeah, his reasons were he

440
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: didn't like the material. But she's like, this is doing

441
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: well for me. So I'm doing well and you're shitting

442
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: on what I'm doing because you think what you're doing

443
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 1: is better. But you ain't done ship in a minute.

444
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 1: But he was still there though he still show up.

445
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: He left during intermission. But I'd have been like, I

446
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 1: bet you not come at all. Then you show up

447
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: and leave during intermission. You know what I'm saying, Like,

448
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: this is my father and this is me in a play,

449
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: and you left during intermission. You a bitch.

450
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: Bro You a bit better than not show up at

451
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 2: all than to show up partially.

452
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 1: Yes, I'd rather you just not come at all than

453
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 1: leave during intermission, unless unless you have like oh if

454
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: you had like a fucking heart attack or some ship okay,

455
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 1: or if you really had something serious to do. But

456
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: if you're just like, hey, I didn't like the material,

457
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: so I left. Fuck you, BROA was like I had

458
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: to go. Why why did you have to go? You

459
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: better tell me no, fuck that, then fuck you don't

460
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 1: come to my ship, no more. Don't come to my

461
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: ship no more. Not. I'm pretty sure he just implied

462
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 1: that he didn't really fuck with the material. I thought

463
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: it was something else. And that's why I think that's

464
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: why she got mad, because she's like, you're you're downplaying

465
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: what I'm doing, but you ain't doing shit, right Yeah?

466
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,239
Speaker 1: So anyway, so and if you remember, just cut in,

467
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: Gustav attends a film festival. One of his older films

468
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 1: is being shown, and there he meets up with the

469
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: actor Rachel Kemp, who's played by el Fanning. Her film

470
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: is also being screened there, and after a bit of

471
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: bonding on the beach, he tells her all about his movie.

472
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: And then fast forward and we see Agnes and nor

473
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: are discussing which of their mother's belongings to get rid

474
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: of from the house, but Gustav shows up with Rachel

475
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: to show her the home. Spike, what do you think

476
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: of this scene? Ted?

477
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 5: It was gonna be beef even though she turned it down.

478
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 5: I knew she would have a problem and she hadn't

479
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 5: read the script anything like that. Either she had not

480
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 5: read the script, neither one of them mad, So I knew.

481
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: It would be beef. Since beef. Where did y'all since

482
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: beef with the other? I just she left with beef

483
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: with and it's a beef with Nora. Nora. Nora left

484
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: no bound bound. She didn't give it, like she didn't

485
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: want to be around there, like whatever, I don't give

486
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: a ship. Yeah, yeah, I didn't. I didn't since beef.

487
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 3: It was some tension or it was definitely a little

488
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 3: bit on comfort.

489
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 4: I guess I was paying more attention to the walk

490
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 4: the actual walk through, because he was like he wanted

491
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 4: to do a Warner, which everybody is infatuated with winners

492
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 4: right now one shots.

493
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,719
Speaker 1: But because every time it happens, y'all act like it's

494
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: the greatest thing ever made. It is cool, but it

495
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 1: just seemed like it's like overkilled Adolescens was Dodoo and

496
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: y'll man, the whole thing was a Warner. It was

497
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: a Warner. A Warner. It's like I drop a turd.

498
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 4: It's a wonder was great and it has really good,

499
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 4: really good performance.

500
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 1: It was a tour you wouldn't get.

501
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 4: But I was more interested in, like how he was

502
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 4: just trying to describe. Well, I was interested that they

503
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 4: were talking English, so I was happy about that.

504
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 1: Yes, I thought it was gonna change, Okay, Yeah, I

505
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 1: was just like because.

506
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 4: Even before we got there, I know, you just kind

507
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 4: of wanted all that together. Before we got there was

508
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 4: a lot of English, a lot of stuff because they

509
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 4: were in the States, I guess, or something like that.

510
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 1: At first, was it a say so, I don't think

511
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: it was in the States. I think it was just well,

512
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, actually, I don't know if that where

513
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: the film festival was. Yeah, I don't know either.

514
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: I thought he was just around English speaking people switched over.

515
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't know. Yeah, so all of that

516
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 4: was great. I was like, man, it was so man.

517
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 4: When I tell y'all, it was so refreshing.

518
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: It was so refreshing to follow in English.

519
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 4: I was like, I know that sounds bad, and I'm

520
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 4: sorry that it sounds bad, but it's just man, I know,

521
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 4: and that's what it sounds like.

522
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 1: Mad.

523
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 4: I was just I'm English speaking, that's what you know.

524
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 4: That's just a struggle for me. But anyway, so that

525
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,479
Speaker 4: part was was that and then I liked the element

526
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 4: of him walking her through the scene or whatnot, and

527
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 4: she and her kind of getting getting to character during

528
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 4: that walk you kind of see her just trying to

529
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 4: fill it out, become the character a little bit bit,

530
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 4: a little bit before even you know, acted it out.

531
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 4: So seeing the process of an actor and how they

532
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 4: how they do things, I thought that was really cool.

533
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: He was.

534
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 3: He was an asshole, and I liked seeing that because

535
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 3: we saw it on the beach and we saw it

536
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 3: again here when he walked in and they tried to

537
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 3: walk in and he told him to go to.

538
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: An offfee shop.

539
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: He said, well, let's know, we're done, like yo, Like

540
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 3: this dude is a jerk. But what I also thought

541
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 3: was interesting was when he introduced Rachel Kimp to the

542
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 3: daughter and before then they showed I guess that was

543
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 3: a flashback to one of his earlier films that at played.

544
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes and right who No, It was Agnes and

545
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: that was at the film festival, so it wasn't really

546
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: a flashback. They were watching the film because this film

547
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 1: was playing at the film festival. In the In the film,

548
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: Agnes was playing the young girl, the one that was

549
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: on the train. This is a mom, the mom, the

550
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: sister that's a mom. Sorry, she got the chat. Yeah,

551
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: this is a thicker one. Yeah, this that mom, not

552
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: them mom. That's yeah, I know. But yeah, Agnes is

553
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: the one that has like a kid. Yes.

554
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the other thing I wanted to point out

555
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 4: to Like they did the same thing with that too,

556
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 4: where it's just part of it.

557
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: They did a lot.

558
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 4: They did that a lot in this film where they

559
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 4: didn't show the whole thing, but you know, it was

560
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 4: like a great performance.

561
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: So I thought that was cool.

562
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he because he walked up and he was like, oh,

563
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 3: you recognize her, Yeah, you recognized him from my film?

564
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 3: And she was super lion, super yeah, selfe.

565
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: Lying motherfucker. And I was wondered watching him.

566
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 3: I was like, is he trying to cover up this

567
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 3: awkwardness in this moment or is he trying to give

568
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 3: at in some sort of like some affirmation. Yeah, just

569
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 3: like but was like, bruh, you don't recognize me child?

570
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

571
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 3: So, but I thought that was interesting because I don't

572
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 3: know what it what it all means, you know, why

573
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: he did that to her or Rachel.

574
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he was doing that because he's trying

575
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: to reconnect with them with both of the daughters, and

576
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: I think he was just trying to this is an old,

577
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: old dad, and of course that's what you're gonna do.

578
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, this is my thought regized her,

579
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: don't you No, dude, I don't. I don't recognize her

580
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: at all. What are you talking about? But no, I

581
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: thought this whole scene was great when they're walking her

582
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: through the house and then it's revealed, like my mother

583
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: committed suicide in his house. As a matter of fact,

584
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: she used that stool you're sitting. He jumped so good.

585
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: She's like, what are you serious? But yeah, that that

586
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: whole scene I thought was great because I was like, wait,

587
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: what the fuck is wrong with you? Tell me that

588
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: before we come in here.

589
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 4: But then but then it was real. It was it

590
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 4: was from IKEI. It wasn't like actual stud. I don't

591
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 4: know if y'all saw that.

592
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said it, though I missed that. That wasn't

593
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: the stud Yeah, one of them said it. He ain't

594
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: got to read That's what I'm saying. I read it.

595
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: I guess I must have blinked right.

596
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: That's because I think he said it to actnes No.

597
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 4: But yeah, he said he didn't say it in English though,

598
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 4: Oh well, when did this happen?

599
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: Right after?

600
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 4: It was right after she was just like He's like,

601
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 4: he was like, yeah, I told her. You know that

602
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 4: was the same stood that your mother hung herself phone.

603
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 4: She's like the stud from Kia. You know what, I

604
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 4: I do remember that.

605
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: And I thought, ship, y'all, don't think I'm stupid. I thought, like,

606
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: because I Kia, I think it's a place. So I thought,

607
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: because they're in Norway or something, I assumed, And I

608
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: think that's what it is, is a sweetish story. Yeah.

609
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: I thought they were talking about it was a place

610
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: they went. Never mind, I'm dumb. I did not even

611
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: think at all that it was from the store. Ikea, Yeah,

612
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: it's from the story. Wow. But that's how its spelled.

613
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: It spelled like, you know, that changes the whole scene

614
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: to me, the fucking asshole. But but it's still not

615
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: you him, No, I get you. But I like that

616
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: because it was still a very powerful moment. And then

617
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: they and then they said it jokingly afterwards, I guess

618
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: to lighten it up. And I guess it also shows

619
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: one how manipulative he can be, and two how good

620
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: he is. And like I'm going to get this actor

621
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: in Tennis. Yeah, that's what he was.

622
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 5: That's the whole PLA's what from it too that he

623
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 5: was trying to push her, trying to push.

624
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: Take that yo as was half asleep, had one op.

625
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 6: Like CBS see me stressed, Spike, What did you think

626
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 6: of the flashback that shows who Karen, which is Gustav's mother,

627
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 6: actually was.

628
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: In the war stories? Yeah, stuff like that. It was good.

629
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: It was more interesting than a lot of it to me.

630
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 5: I like hearing the history and then I liked their

631
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 5: realization as to how it played off on them as

632
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 5: the girls, So that was a nutation part of them.

633
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was interesting because she was she was like

634
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 4: an activist or something like that, right.

635
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: She was protesting the w war and jailed for two

636
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: years in the Nazi torture can Yeah, and see again.

637
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 4: You had to kind of see that too, because I

638
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 4: think it was like, yeah, you might see some disturbing

639
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 4: images and stuff like that.

640
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: But that was later. Oh that is that was later.

641
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: This is just the flashback that they were showing of

642
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: the mom being taken away. Oh yeah, I'm mixed the

643
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: two things, okay, and the and the narrators is basically

644
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: telling you.

645
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 4: What happened gotch Yeah, yeah, but no was it was

646
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 4: a good that's what said they did.

647
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: They did some little things here to tie.

648
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 4: They were really good at doing it in this film,

649
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 4: not having to fully explain something, but you still kind of.

650
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: Just got it.

651
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, treating the audience is dumb. Yeah, yeah, you know, well.

652
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: I mean I think they pretty much laid it out

653
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: pretty much exactly what happened. They said that she was

654
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: protesting the war. They showed the cops come and get her.

655
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: Then they said she spent two years locked up in

656
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: a Nazi torture camp for protesting the war.

657
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 4: And all I'm saying they did that, but they did

658
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 4: it very quickly and not a drawn out thing.

659
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: Oh. I mean the movie is two hours ago. Yeah no,

660
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: but some people are still drawing that type of shit out. Yeah,

661
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: came backstory. Yeah. I like this scene because I just

662
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: think the way that they filmed it was beautiful, especially

663
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: when she was walking to go kill herself. You know,

664
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: she says goodbye to the kids or whatever, and then

665
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: she stands up out of that chair and then she's

666
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: walking down that hall, and the way the cameras is

667
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: following her walking down that hall and then she gets

668
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: behind the door and she closes it and just goes

669
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: to the next scene. But the next scene is where

670
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: they're showing Gustav getting with Scil, which is I don't

671
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: know if the sil or Scil having having kids, and

672
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: then the fighting and him leaving. So they're basically showing

673
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 1: how they've just had multiple generations in this same house

674
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 1: and they aged them too. I thought that was weird.

675
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I feel like they did it very slickly

676
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 4: because they had him in a steel shot, so he

677
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 4: just that. Yeah, they just it seemed like they just

678
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 4: plastered new age face without having to do too much.

679
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: Give in. Just get one of his kids because they

680
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: do look like him. Yeah, get Scars Guard. Yeah, there's

681
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: two other stars Guard. One of them, Bill doesn't look

682
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: like him. Bill's the one that's from it. He doesn't

683
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: look like him. But it's the other one, the what

684
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: is his name, the really good looking one, the one

685
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: that was in Infinity Infinity uh War, No, not Infinity War,

686
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: the one with me of goth and stuff. Oh oh

687
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: that's oh Ship, that's still I know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

688
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: that's his son. Damn. I don't know if you look

689
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: at him in the face long enough they do look

690
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: see it now? Yeah, yeah, you say that. God, that's

691
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: gonna bum What the name of that movie, which you

692
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't know because that's the movie about the blood roll right,

693
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: but it wasn't about No, damn, I had it on

694
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: my list. I want to say Infinity Stone, but it's

695
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: that's sucking marble, something to do with some liquid infinity juice. No,

696
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: they're talking about what she turned into the monster. Yeah,

697
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: turned into a monk moster. No, not not not, It

698
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, It doesn't matter, It don't matter. I'll look

699
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: it up. Yeah, you look at because that's gonna bug me.

700
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: It's gonna bugby too. But let's move on. Norm meets

701
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: up with Jacob and his friends and it seems like

702
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: they this is the guy that was at the beginning

703
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: that Infinity Pool about some liquid liquid. That's what I'm saying,

704
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: liquid Infinity pool. Yeah. Norm heats up with Jacob and

705
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 1: his friends and it seems like they've been actually creeping around.

706
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: If you don't remember Jacob, Jacob was the guy at

707
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: the beginning of it that had to slap her to

708
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: get her to break out of her panic panic attack.

709
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: But uh, she finds out that Jacob is there getting

710
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: a divorce from his wife. What did you think about

711
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 1: how she reacts and then how he dissed her? Man

712
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: he could take that if he thought anything from him?

713
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I was like, damn, she thought she

714
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 4: was in a clear boy. She was like, we can

715
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 4: be out there.

716
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: We don't have the heart now. He was like, it

717
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: was just a side talk about I'm not so sure, right, Yeah. Nah.

718
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting because I didn't realize. Yeah,

719
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: because was that.

720
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 4: When it was first revealed that he was even Yes,

721
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 4: because it made it seem like they were in a relationship.

722
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: Thought.

723
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 3: I thought it was revealed when they were when we

724
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 3: first saw them in bed together, and she didn't realize

725
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 3: he said something about.

726
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 4: The wife or something like that. So yeah, they had

727
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 4: mentioned it earlier. Yes, see again that's probably a subtitle

728
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 4: that it was. It was, But that's what I'm saying,

729
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 4: like with this type of stuff, like if I don't

730
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 4: see it, I have to I have to have read.

731
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 1: It in so Norwegian.

732
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 4: Yeah I know, right, Yeah, but no, no, I thought

733
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 4: it was not funny, But you know, I thought it

734
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 4: was interesting that because I don't know.

735
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: I just I just didn't expect her to be depicted

736
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: that way and she would be cheating on them. Man, Yeah,

737
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: like happening affair and stuff like that.

738
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 4: But it kind of goes to you know, her depression

739
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 4: and whatever, I'm just not happy.

740
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: Or you know, I mean, I mean also her household

741
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 3: was was kind of broken to.

742
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: Rejection from her dad, you know.

743
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I could see her not seeking full comfort,

744
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 3: you know, maybe going to the opposite.

745
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,439
Speaker 2: I think you can probably go one way or the other.

746
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 2: You know, for her, it was.

747
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 3: Like, you know, not looking to get something, not being

748
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 3: fully committed to a thing, you know, but still feeling

749
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 3: some sort of like dejection when when she was when

750
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: she was refused, because she thought that was the opening,

751
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 3: like this is it, we can finally be together, and

752
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 3: she didn't get it, which I feel now thinking about it.

753
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 3: This this almost played sort of a moment in the

754
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 3: movie as we move on with a state that I

755
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 3: think she entered. But it was fucked up what he

756
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 3: did to her because he was getting a divorce and

757
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 3: it's almost like he made it seem like either he

758
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: did not want her or he was looking to get

759
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 3: back together with his wife and they were going to

760
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 3: try to mend fences and he didn't want to end

761
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 3: that relationship.

762
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 2: So but it was cold blood as fuck. That shit

763
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: was funny to me.

764
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: I'll take you this.

765
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 5: He just didn't want her, not in that way. You're

766
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 5: just like, so she was just over here being that.

767
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 5: But as far as my wife like you, no, absolutely not.

768
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 5: He was almost offended.

769
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: She was right. I viewed it as more so he

770
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: hadn't gotten the divorce yet and he's with his friends

771
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: and you're already trying to like throw it out there

772
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: that we're fucking around. It's like, wait, chill out, calm down,

773
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: take take this a little bit slower. That's how I

774
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: took it at least. And it actually does make sense

775
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: the way because one of y'all was saying, I think

776
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: it was you Rod that was saying that you were

777
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: surprised that she was depicted that way as someone that

778
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: would be fucking around with a married person. But when

779
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: we get to Eric's party, Eric is Agnes's kid, I

780
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: think it's kind of explained. So what did y'all think

781
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: about Eric's party? You don't have the refreshment memory on

782
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: that one. So the first part of but the first

783
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: part of the scene is them giving Eric gifts And

784
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: did y'all notice the fucking movies that he gave to

785
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: her to the kid? I mean, you noticed what movie? Oh?

786
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: You probably yeah, you probably would have watched that. But

787
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: one of the movies is called Piano Teacher, which is

788
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 1: about it's about like a weird uh dom sub kind

789
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: of situation between a woman and a guy, kind of

790
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: but very graphic. Mister Hollins opus. I don't think I've

791
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: seen mister Hollands opus. But Irreversible he also gave her

792
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: that that's a Gustav Fuck. What is his fucking name? God?

793
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: I hate getting old, y'all, we say it's not Gustav,

794
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: it's he's one of my favorite directors and I cannot

795
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: think of his name. He did enter the Void? Fuck?

796
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 2: God, you talking about you mentioned that movie before?

797
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Irreversible is an extremely graphic movie. When you

798
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: say graphic, where there is uh sexual assault? Oh okay?

799
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: And after the sexual assault he beats her, and I

800
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: will give you a slight segue. When I saw this

801
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: in the theater, the assault scene was so long that

802
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: I turned away and I told my buddy, I was like,

803
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: let me know when this is done. And after like

804
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: two three more minutes went by. I'm like, bro, is

805
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: it still not done? And he's like no, And then

806
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: you start hearing the seats the people were getting up

807
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: and walking out. But when you get to the end

808
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: of the movie, you realize that that scene was necessary.

809
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: My whole point is, why the fuck is he giving

810
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: a fucking child this movie either one of these movies.

811
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: So if you watch the scene, you see Nora in

812
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: the back. She's kind of just like laughing, and I

813
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: think she's laughing at the fact that Gustav is just

814
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: so fucking detached that he thinks that this is no. Yeah,

815
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: But then the party is actually going well until the

816
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: end of the party. They're sitting around drinking and Nora

817
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: brings up the fact that Gustav cheated on the mom.

818
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: So she I think has this kind of carryover where

819
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: she probably doesn't want to be in an all the

820
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: way commit a relationship, but I do think she wants

821
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: to be with Jacob, but then Jacob rejects her, so

822
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: she's looking at her dad like, yo, you guys are

823
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 1: like the same fucking person, Like I thought I found somebody,

824
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: but he, you know, he was cheating on his wife

825
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: and then he doesn't want to he doesn't even want

826
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: to be with me.

827
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, is this when he kind of, uh basically

828
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 3: told her about it about herself. He was kind of

829
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 3: calling her out for her kind of sort of flaws

830
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 3: as well, because he was just.

831
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: Like Daddy's the victor dad. Yeah, he did say.

832
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and later on she was she was crying,

833
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 3: but I think it was a scene in the movie.

834
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, they were kind of this. They were kind

835
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 3: of going back and forth, and you know, she was

836
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 3: trying to call for his ship. Yeah, this was a

837
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 3: good thing.

838
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: He was calling her out for her fuck ship and

839
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 2: ship like that.

840
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 3: So because she was talking about her not oh yeah,

841
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 3: because she was talking about her not being married, having

842
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 3: kids and saying, look at at this. And I can't

843
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 3: remember the full conversation, but I remember.

844
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: I was like this basically like me. He was like,

845
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: she was me, and I don't want you to be

846
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: like me. Ye, it's basically saying yeah, like geez, gosper

847
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: no and who did end of the ordin' Irreversible? What'd

848
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: y'all think of the scene where Agnes goes to the library,

849
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: uh to research her grandmother. Oh, that's the one that's

850
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: what I confused.

851
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, I thought that was good. That's what

852
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 4: they was saying. There might be some graphic stuff that

853
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 4: you don't want to see. Yep, yeah, I thought it

854
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 4: was reiterating what they talked about earlier.

855
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but.

856
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 3: Things were were not all the way clear to me,

857
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 3: because I know they said she was a Nazi protester.

858
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 3: But the question I have is was she the one

859
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 3: doing the torturing.

860
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 1: No, she was getting That's why she killed herself.

861
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,919
Speaker 3: But there were there it looked like there were also

862
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 3: pictures of so those are just other photos of other Okay.

863
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: They were demonstrating the types of torture that can be

864
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: done in those cas.

865
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 3: Okay, because yeah, because I was looking and I probably

866
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 3: just missed it because I was looking for a photo

867
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 3: of her actually being tortured. And when I was like,

868
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 3: wait a minute, did did they kind of is this

869
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 3: like she is there is what she thinked or thought

870
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 3: her grandmother was different, and she killed herself because she

871
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 3: was forced to torture these other people against the will. Okay, Okay,

872
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 3: all right, cool, I.

873
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: Mean unless I miss unless I miss read something, I

874
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: took it as she was being tortured. I never thought

875
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: about her being the torture er. So maybe it.

876
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: Was a lot of photos of other people in that

877
00:44:59,400 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: in that.

878
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: But that's what he was saying. He's like, you may

879
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 1: see some graphic things in this book, but.

880
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: Why why did she even go look that up anywhere?

881
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: She just wanted more insight? I thought, yeah, yeah, because

882
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: she probably was trying. I think they were both trying

883
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: to figure out the dad's angle. Why is he here?

884
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: What's going on? So I thought it was interesting that

885
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: she didn't know anything about her grandmother until she went

886
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: to the library and had to like book him look

887
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: her up. So I found this part interesting. But Gustav

888
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: actually wants Eric, which is Agnes's son, to play in

889
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: the movie. Why do y'all think that is Spike?

890
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 5: I think that And I don't know if she mentioned this,

891
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 5: but I think that her dad thinks that throw movies,

892
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 5: that he's connecting or bonding with them because he had

893
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 5: her in moving when she was young. And I think

894
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 5: that that's the dad's way of saying, like I want

895
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 5: to connect you, I want to know you, but it ain't.

896
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 5: It don't come off as authentic to the keys because

897
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 5: they just acting. Yeah, that's what I thought, did y'all.

898
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: Get the same thing? Mhm were good? Yeah, Like they're

899
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: having a discussion, and Agnes says to him, says to

900
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: Gustav that she enjoyed filming with him because in that moment,

901
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: in that time, it made her feel special, right, and

902
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: she felt like she was finally important to him, and

903
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: then he vanished. So when she says that, nah, you

904
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: can't have Eric in your film, it's because she doesn't

905
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: want him to do the same thing to Eric. This

906
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: is her son, and she can already see how much

907
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: her son loves granddaddy. Already Granddad's showing him reminded me

908
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: of some shit like Rob would probably do. Granddad's showing

909
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: him these cool camera tricks, throw the shovel and look

910
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: at it's in my neck. So she can see that

911
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: Eric is already like god, granddad is so cool.

912
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was gonna say, Like I do

913
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 4: that with my kids. Well, I've done that with my kids,

914
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 4: and my kid now get them involved in things that

915
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 4: I'm doing, right, just you know.

916
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, I totally got what he was.

917
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 4: Doing, and just one then you know, part of the

918
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 4: whole legacy should do it to you do it here

919
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 4: you have them come up here to do film ship,

920
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 4: so it's like, yeah, that's that's just something you just

921
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 4: embedded in you to do.

922
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: But she probably didn't trust him. Yeah, yeah, she was.

923
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: She was her feel if she remembers how it made

924
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: her feel, and she's like, you're gonna you're gonna come

925
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: in here, You're gonna treat him like the world, and

926
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: then you're gonna Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was a

927
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: really really really good scene.

928
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 4: And it's kind of like parallel with with with like

929
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 4: like almost like dead beats, like like when they give

930
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 4: money and they never see him again, you just get

931
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 4: them all hyped up and then with them, you know,

932
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 4: so yeah, hit him.

933
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: With the fresh prince the hell? Yeah, what did you

934
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: think or why do you think Rachel dropped out of

935
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 1: the film And why was Gustav ultimately so understanding about

936
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: her dropping out? Yeah?

937
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 4: Because I mean they showed that she clearly felt like

938
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 4: the old she couldn't connect with the role. She felt

939
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 4: like it was written for someone else, which was which

940
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 4: would find out it's her daughter, and she just did

941
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 4: not feel right doing it. And it just showed her

942
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 4: integrity as an actor to understand that right not every

943
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 4: role is for you, you know, and it's not just

944
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 4: about the money or the check or whatever. And she

945
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 4: respect and I think that was her respect for him

946
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 4: as a filmmaker or whatnot. So I thought they did

947
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 4: that very well and made that very clear. And I

948
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 4: think she met up with Agnes too. She didn't talk

949
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 4: about it, so yeah she was but no Nora. Yeah, yeah,

950
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 4: I'm getting confused, but yeah, she met up with Nora,

951
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 4: which I thought was really respectful. And yeah, he he

952
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 4: he respected her for that as well. That's why he

953
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 4: didn't give her any pushback on it, because at the

954
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 4: end of the day, he never really wanted her anyway,

955
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

956
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 1: So so for him, he's like, yeah, I mean, you're

957
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 1: not wrong.

958
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 3: And maybe she she she realized that, you know, and

959
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 3: she kept trying to get more information and he would

960
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 3: not give it to her. Yeah, like I need to

961
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 3: know more about your mom. She was like, it's not

962
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 3: about my mom. The story is not about my mother.

963
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: And we learned that. He kept saying like what do

964
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: you think?

965
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, yeah, he kept doing that a lot.

966
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: That's funny because I was thinking about wonder Man, you know,

967
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 3: all the ship that Simon and slash Yah y'all was

968
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 3: doing and trying to figure out what these characters are.

969
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 2: She was doing in this in this film.

970
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: But you know, I.

971
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 2: Think once he had her dye her hair, she was like, oh.

972
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, did he tell her to do that? Thought she

973
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: did on her own she told her to. He told

974
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: her to. Yeah. She was like yeah, yeah. She was like,

975
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: you had me.

976
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 2: I think she said you had me die do my

977
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: hair like your daughter or.

978
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: Something like that.

979
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 5: I think he wanted her to own the role and

980
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 5: she never would, and she was trying to get it

981
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 5: out of him, and he wanted it to come out

982
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 5: of her. He wanted her to identify with the role

983
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 5: more so me having to explain it. So he was

984
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 5: kind of relieved in my opinion, when she was like,

985
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 5: I ain't doing.

986
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: This no more. Well, but he still didn't. You know.

987
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 2: I also wonder if he was also using her for

988
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 2: funding too, because that was an issue.

989
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: But uh, but also I think you start to see.

990
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 3: Visually what Rachel Kemp was representing to him in the movie,

991
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 3: especially when the hairs died, because I was like, oh,

992
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 3: when when did it? Nora agree to do the filmsed

993
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 3: for a minute, but it was her, and we never

994
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 3: got an explanation until that moment. So you're starting to

995
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 3: see as a viewers, like, oh, this is attended for Nora.

996
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 3: Of course we knew that because she declined, but now

997
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 3: he's trying to also physically make her be this this person.

998
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 3: So it's so it's showing his longing for it. He's

999
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 3: trying to get it in whatever way he could.

1000
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: What did I just do? Hold on, I just lost

1001
00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: my place anyway, Yeah, I agree with y'all. I think

1002
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: she realizes that the role was not written for her,

1003
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: but she also realizes how personally important this movie is

1004
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: for Gustave, which is what she says to Nor when

1005
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: they meet up at the theater or whatever wherever they were.

1006
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: So I think it was just that she was trying

1007
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: to be respectful. She was just like, this was not

1008
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: written for me, This was written for your daughter. I

1009
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: have no business trying to play this. And I think

1010
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: he was really because he was like, yeah, I want

1011
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: my daughter to do this, you know, which is why

1012
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: I think he had like a mini breakdown after that

1013
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: and went and got fucking wasted. But because I think

1014
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: he realized then like this movie might not get made

1015
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: I just lost the main actress. And that's when.

1016
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, that phone call that cost a callback to earlier.

1017
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 4: It's triple on time. Yeah, callback to earlier. When you

1018
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 4: were saying that it was eluded that she he was

1019
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 4: calling her unwanted, like she was getting unwanted calls from him.

1020
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: Well, he does that earlier in the film. I didn't

1021
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: realize it earlier. Yeah, he called her earlier when he

1022
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: was like drunk on the couch. I thought that. I thought, so,

1023
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: this is just a this scene. He just went outside

1024
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: and got drunk, and then then the scene like cuts

1025
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: to him laying on the ground. So so, so he

1026
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: did that earlier. I don't remember him doing that earlier.

1027
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: He did that earlier. So unless I'm wrong, I don't

1028
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: remember that earlier. But I'm pretty sure he did it earlier.

1029
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 3: He did it, and he did it, and then in

1030
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 3: this scene, he just went and got drunk and asleep

1031
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 3: on the ground, right, right, So both both things happened

1032
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 3: in the movie.

1033
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: Two things can be true. So Agnes goes to visit

1034
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: Nora and gives her Gustav's script, and she convinces her

1035
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: to read a certain passage.

1036
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 5: So, Spike, what did you think of this scene Dista

1037
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 5: passions when she realized what happens at the end of

1038
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 5: the movie.

1039
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: I mean, she just realizes that it's about her. That's

1040
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: about her.

1041
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 5: Basically, I thought it went a long way in the

1042
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 5: sense of she thought the he was trying to mend relationship,

1043
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 5: and like I said earlier with the little boy and

1044
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 5: him cashing him, he relates to people through movies, so

1045
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 5: he was trying to explain to her that I'm sorry

1046
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 5: that I left all of this time without actually saying it,

1047
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 5: and she got it. But she also, I think, feel

1048
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 5: cheated because he wouldn't come out directly and say that.

1049
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 5: I shouldn't have to read it in a script for

1050
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 5: you to figure it out.

1051
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 4: You think she felt cheated, but hm, I don't know

1052
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 4: if I thought she felt cheated by it. I did

1053
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 4: get the same thing you got or whatever, because she

1054
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 4: it made her emotional right, and I think it was

1055
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 4: a step towards understanding, in my opinion, and just understanding

1056
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 4: who her father is, how much he actually does care

1057
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 4: about her to that point, it's not just about I

1058
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 4: know you were saying in the beginning, like about his

1059
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 4: career is his way and his career done. Yeah, it's

1060
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 4: his way of communicating, you know, with his family. So

1061
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 4: I thought that was cool. Man, I don't know, I

1062
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 4: really liked this. I thought this was a very very

1063
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 4: touching scene, even for the way her sister was looking

1064
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 4: at her as she was reading it, just to kind

1065
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 4: of get her reaction to it.

1066
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: I thought that was really good.

1067
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 3: They both were very reluctant to read the script, and

1068
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 3: even her and she eventually got around to reading. And

1069
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 3: I can't remember what caused her to read it. Sister,

1070
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 3: I'm at this rate at first, and I forgot.

1071
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: What well left it with her.

1072
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but she didn't want to read it either.

1073
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: Remember she didn't, but remember what we were talking about

1074
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: at the beginning, she's more forgiving. Yes you did mention that. Yeah,

1075
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: She's willing to give him a shot.

1076
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 2: So she eventually was like, all right, let me see

1077
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: what this shit.

1078
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: And again they were both trying to figure out what

1079
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: his angle is. They're like, why are you here? Why

1080
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: are you pushing this on us? So she was just

1081
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 1: the first one to give in, and after learning about

1082
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: what her grandmother did, I think that made her want

1083
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: to go read the script and see that was it?

1084
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 3: That was that was a catalyst. That Okay, So yeah,

1085
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 3: that was it. That was the part that was the trick. Okay,

1086
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 3: so it was.

1087
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: Someone going on with the house too, the cell of

1088
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,959
Speaker 1: the house. Yeah, I think he owned.

1089
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 3: No, he transferred ownership to her, but she never signed

1090
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 3: it to the mom, her being a mom, so he

1091
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 3: still owned the house.

1092
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 2: This was this was this was interesting.

1093
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 3: So now we get to the part of the movie

1094
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 3: that really started to stick with me and that I

1095
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 3: kept thinking about and connection with everything else because Rachel

1096
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 3: kept saying, I need to know about your mom. He

1097
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 3: kept saying, this movie is not about my mother. First

1098
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 3: time he said, I'm like, you fucking lie.

1099
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Second time he said, I was like, wh who

1100
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: the fuck is it a way?

1101
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 2: Sure, we come to find out it's not right.

1102
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 4: It's not, but it kind of is like like, in

1103
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 4: a sense, like because the mother what she did, I

1104
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 4: feel like, I don't know. I kind of feel like

1105
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 4: and I might be wrong, but he could see the

1106
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 4: daughter on a similar path.

1107
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, it feels like he's he's it's about.

1108
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: What she could do.

1109
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 3: It's like, even though he hasn't been around, there are

1110
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 3: maybe things that he sees or behaviors that he's heard

1111
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 3: that seems familiar. So it's almost like he's almost damn

1112
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 3: near saving her life, you know. And there were some similarities,

1113
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 3: uh that that they display and you know, because the

1114
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 3: only thing we saw were panic attacks.

1115
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: You know, I don't I didn't, I don't.

1116
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 3: I don't recall anything about her being depressed of a

1117
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 3: suicidal until she said it. Both of those things were

1118
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 3: revealed earlier, but it was it was in a conversation,

1119
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 3: but it came like later on in the movie. We

1120
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 3: saw the panic attacks, but then I think it was

1121
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 3: a conversation. I thought I thought that conversation happened when

1122
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 3: she was because I thought Nora asked atn this, how

1123
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 3: does he know about my attempt?

1124
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: That happened in this scene, But earlier on in the film,

1125
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: when Agnes was Nora was going through it, Agnes said,

1126
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: you're not gonna do this again, right, and you're you're

1127
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: supposed to put it two and two together that she

1128
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: had previously tried to commit suicide. It's just they explicitly

1129
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,439
Speaker 1: say it in this moment because she asks, Agnes, did

1130
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: you ever tell him about my suicide attempt? And she's

1131
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: like no. So when Agnes says to her like this

1132
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: movie is not just written with you in mind, it's

1133
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: written about you, like this is your life. I don't

1134
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: think that she was being literal. It's just a matter

1135
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: of they're realizing how much Nora has been carrying this

1136
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: trauma from her grandmother without even knowing it. They had

1137
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: the same path, like they were both depressed and they

1138
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: were both about to commit suicide. But she was just

1139
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: bugged out that he was trying to push her into

1140
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: this role to play his mother when she's going through

1141
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: the same thing and he doesn't even factually know it.

1142
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: So I thought this scene was like insanely good. It

1143
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: was like, wait a minute, how the fuck does he

1144
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: even know this? That's what I kept asking. But he

1145
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: knows his daughter and his mom, right, Yeah, he sees

1146
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: it in his mom, And so we can look at

1147
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: it two ways. We can either say we know he

1148
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: knows his daughter, he can see it in his mother.

1149
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: He can see elements of his mother and his daughter.

1150
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: He doesn't want her to go on that path, or

1151
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: we can say that he just wants to connect with

1152
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: her and he wants her to play in this part

1153
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: so she can understand why he's the way he is

1154
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: it's one of those two things, I.

1155
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 3: Think, which also both yeah yeah, which again this is

1156
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 3: the part I like, which connects to why she is

1157
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 3: the way she is, right, Yeah.

1158
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. So that I was like, man, that's good. That's goodness,

1159
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: that's good. Yeah. You breathed in like you're gonna.

1160
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 3: Say I was, but I don't know if you're gonna.

1161
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 3: I want to hit the next question first.

1162
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: Well, the next question is the end. So do you

1163
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: have something about this particular scene or is it about

1164
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: the end seeing her playing the role?

1165
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 3: Okay, I do I do have a connect I do

1166
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 3: have a question because in this scene when after she

1167
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 3: read the script and they're crying, the conversations she had

1168
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 3: when they were on the side of the bed, bro, Yeah,

1169
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 3: when she was like she was like our childhoods were similar,

1170
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 3: and she.

1171
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: Was like, no, they weren't. She was like different. Yeah,

1172
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: I had you yep, bro, Like yo, that's a fucking

1173
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: bar and she didn't have anybody like man.

1174
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: I was like bruh, yeah, that shit stuck with me.

1175
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 3: I was like damn yeah, okay, okay, sentimental value, they

1176
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 3: didn't drop the name.

1177
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was and I thought.

1178
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 4: It was gonna be more in the time, like it

1179
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 4: seemed like it was gonna I felt like it should

1180
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 4: have been a bigger moment because that was when it

1181
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 4: was going through the ship at the house, right.

1182
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 1: Yes, but I think that the name of the film

1183
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: travels throughout the entire film because all of this is

1184
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: about sentimental value. He sentimental value is his memories of

1185
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: his mother, the emotion he felt from it, and then

1186
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 1: he's putting this on to her. Now you see what

1187
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, See when I think sentimental, I think tangible.

1188
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: M sure, but this is also, you know, a movie

1189
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: about art, so they're being abstracted. I get what you're saying.

1190
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: I guess you can look at the script. Is sentimental value?

1191
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1192
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tangible, but they were going through tangible idols

1193
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 3: when they said it.

1194
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: Exactly He said, yeah, yeah, yeah, what happened, keep going?

1195
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: Told you to keep right. After being hospitalized, there wasn't

1196
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: a single nigger in this film, you know, so I

1197
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: don't think I'll worry about this. After being hospitalized. After

1198
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: a drunken night, Gustav renovates the house and then we

1199
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: see that Nora and Eric have joined the production, and

1200
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: we just discover that what we're watching is a scene

1201
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: from the movie being filmed. And actually, I'm gonna add

1202
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: one more question. Did they get y'all with this?

1203
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 4: Initially until I saw the blue screen. I saw the

1204
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 4: blue screen outside, I was like, oh, they don't sit.

1205
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I noticed the blue screen outside.

1206
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so they had the wall, everything in the windows,

1207
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 4: the doorway.

1208
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: Everything was blue. Oh I didn't see that.

1209
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 4: I took that out then, So yeah, that's how you

1210
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 4: can you know it's like green screen?

1211
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I know. I know. I was

1212
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: gonna let it go, Spike, But go ahead. What do

1213
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: you think did they get you?

1214
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 5: They didn't give me because I saw the blue screen, Okay,

1215
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 5: explaining them.

1216
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: With I don't know, it's like green screens, like green screen,

1217
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: but it's blue. That's why they call it blue screen. No,

1218
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: do y'all know why they used to different once? No,

1219
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: that's different. Yeah, No, I don't know what I know.

1220
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: Green is like the most versatile color.

1221
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 4: Right, well, green is green, isn't a lot of ship

1222
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying blue, It's very you

1223
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 4: could do it like your news in different places.

1224
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: It's just depending on what.

1225
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 4: You're wearing in the setting and the mood, that's when

1226
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 4: you would choose to use green open.

1227
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they got me, They got me.

1228
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: I didn't see the blue screen, y'all.

1229
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 3: So when she was talking to Eric, because we had

1230
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 3: seen an area, yeah, we had seen they had a

1231
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,479
Speaker 3: relationship the whole movie, and.

1232
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: You know, I started there were things.

1233
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 3: I was like, that's weird, but okay, because because I'll

1234
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 3: tell you what happened was when he came back and

1235
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 3: was knocking on the doors and I forgot my phone,

1236
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 3: I was like.

1237
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 2: Damn, he saved her life. I was like, oh, man,

1238
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 2: that's cool.

1239
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: Bro.

1240
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 2: The way her face changed, I was like, oh, she.

1241
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 4: Was talking about that earlier. I don't know if you remember.

1242
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,919
Speaker 4: He was sending it to Ella. What's the girl named

1243
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 4: el Fan. He was just he was saying, like when

1244
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 4: she was looking out the window or whatever. He he's

1245
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 4: her to depict. He needs that that scene to be

1246
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 4: very strong. And so the fact that it came back

1247
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 4: around and she did it and it was strong, like

1248
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 4: you said, it was very impactful.

1249
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 1: So I thought that was brilliantly. I was like, no,

1250
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: she ain't gonna do this to them, bro. I was like,

1251
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: no way, like, come on, Laura, are you serious? Then

1252
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: mother just walked. I was like, y'all motherfuckers. Yep. So

1253
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: that that turns out to just be a scene in

1254
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: the film. And I know Ken definitely said it, and

1255
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: I think you said it, and I don't know if

1256
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: you did or not, but a couple of y'all were like,

1257
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 1: when it was over, y'all were like, well, that's it.

1258
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go back to that when y'all say

1259
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: that said, did y'all hate the ending or if even

1260
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: if you don't want to say you hated the ending,

1261
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: you see when you say that's it, what do you mean?

1262
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: I thought there was going to be more of a conclusion, Okay.

1263
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 5: I just expected more like some type of finality with

1264
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 5: the relationship between maybe the daughter and the dad.

1265
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: Okay, it ain't your turn, it ain't your Ken. So

1266
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: it's all of the awards.

1267
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 3: So all the awards built up this big, powerful like

1268
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 3: movie that as soon as it's done, you'll like get.

1269
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 3: But like I said, when I went to bed, it

1270
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 3: was sitting with me, I just kept going back through

1271
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 3: every single thing that was happening, and I started to

1272
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 3: really reflect the thing.

1273
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 2: I was like, maybe that's what they're talking about.

1274
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 3: Like, it's not like it's so many things you have

1275
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 3: to kind of play back throughout the movie of how

1276
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 3: the movie was. Like if you don't even think about

1277
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 3: the movie, right throughout the whole movie, there's separated you know,

1278
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 3: there's Rachel and this other girl, and then there's Nora

1279
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 3: over this other end with this other guy you know occasionally,

1280
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 3: and they don't really come together until the end, and

1281
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 3: then they just sit there.

1282
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 2: They don't even say anything to each other.

1283
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: They just kind of they's just silence.

1284
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 3: So and then you would think about like certain things

1285
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 3: that were said, like when he said something about shadows,

1286
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 3: and I can't remember exactly what he said.

1287
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: He said saying I think something like the shadows make

1288
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: the house more beautiful, but.

1289
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 3: It was something about film too. It was something about

1290
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 3: using it in film. But so when I'm thinking about

1291
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 3: the whole comment about shadow, he said something there's something

1292
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Speaker 3: beautiful or something about shadows or whatever, and you think

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01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 3: about like Nora, and you know, like you can argue

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01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 3: that she has this cloud, this sort of shadow hanging

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01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 3: around her, you know, with her depression and then the

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01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 3: panic attacks. So I'm starting to think about all these

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01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 3: things that's happening in the movie. That's why I was saying,

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01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 3: there's things there, but it's just like all these awards

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01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 3: built it up to wear its super hype.

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Speaker 2: So when he got to the end, I'm like, damn,

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01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 2: that's it.

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01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 3: But I had to go and I'm still thinking about

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01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 3: That's why I felt like we're gonna have a really

1304
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 3: good discussion here, because I know there were things to

1305
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 3: really discuss and pull out. So so yeah, at the time,

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01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 3: I felt like that that was it, but you know,

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01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 3: it's way much more than that.

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01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like with your understanding of the movie

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01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 4: as we reviewed this, I thought the ending would be

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01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 4: impactful for you because it's like they didn't really have

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01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 4: to say much, Like I think it was so much

1312
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 4: said in the expressions between the two. They both were emotional,

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01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 4: kind of holding it back a little bit, and you

1314
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 4: felt like they finally got a connection. They finally you

1315
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, They finally are gonna be able

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01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 4: to move throughout life, you know, without the resentment, without

1317
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 4: a like just a better understanding that no, I really

1318
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 4: do care about you and you care about me.

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01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: You just you're just angry all the time.

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01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 4: So once you get rid of that anger and release it,

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01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 4: now we can we can move on with a relationship.

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01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 4: I felt that I didn't need it to be explained, Like, yeah,

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01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 4: I didn't need it to be explained.

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01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 1: Oh.

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01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 4: That was the other thing too that I wanted to

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01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 4: point out with how that said that they played on

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01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 4: the fact that this was a h foreign language because

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01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 4: the act American actors. She's like, well, don't you think

1329
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 4: I need to have an accident of that speaking the language?

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01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 4: I feel like you feel it more. And I was

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01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 4: just like, damn, you know what I'm saying When I

1332
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 4: say I don't like subtitle stuff, I do understand that

1333
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 4: some stuff need to be in that language because if

1334
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 4: you feel it more. I said that about some of

1335
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 4: the animies or whatever. Yeah, City of Gods like that.

1336
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 4: So yeah, I do like that element. I just wanted

1337
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 4: to I was.

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01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 2: Thinking, I was like, Rachel Rachel, Rachel Kimkin, that did that, bro.

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01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it wouldn't It wouldn't have came off the

1340
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 1: same way.

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01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 3: Nah No, yeah, yeah, but but no, it definitely is

1342
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 3: is is a like I don't I don't think I

1343
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 3: thought it was trash. I just was expecting a lot

1344
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 3: more and I think what it was was I thought

1345
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 3: we were going to see a lot of clashing on

1346
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 3: screen between the two, but it was it was, it

1347
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 3: was happening.

1348
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: It was just it was like invisible.

1349
01:07:56,080 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 3: Right right and uh powerful yeah yeah yeah, Like thinking

1350
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 3: about it talking about it with you guys, like you know,

1351
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 3: there wasn't a lot of them like it really, whereas

1352
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 3: this division between the two throughout the whole movie and.

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01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 2: Then they eventually, like you said, it came together.

1354
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 3: It was like, yeah, there's no words that need to

1355
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 3: be said about this, about what we did and how

1356
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 3: we managed to come here to get to this spot.

1357
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think few actors can can portray a

1358
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: scene that way. I don't know much about the woman

1359
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 1: I know stelling Scarsguard, but there are a few people

1360
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: that can look at you and you get what they're thinking.

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01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: That last scene when you say, well, I thought there's

1362
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 1: going to be more or there's all these awards. I

1363
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 1: think that final scene is why there's so many awards,

1364
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: because I immediately was like she gets it now and

1365
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 1: she forgives him, and then he's looking back at her saying,

1366
01:08:55,600 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 1: thank god, you finally understand. You just see it because

1367
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: she looks at him, and she kind of smiles and

1368
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: she looks down and she looks back at him.

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01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 4: It's like a slight and hit nod a little. Yes,

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01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 4: It's like it's so much in that expression. It's masterclass

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01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 4: acting in this moment.

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Speaker 1: So when the movie ended, and then you see like

1373
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: Eric come running up there and he has like something

1374
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: or whatever, like a and then she's handed a drink

1375
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 1: and it's just normal. At that point, they have finally

1376
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 1: gotten to the point where they can be normal because

1377
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 1: she understands why he's the way he is. He sees her,

1378
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 1: finally he actually sees her, and then the movie ends.

1379
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 1: Fucking brilliant. I thought it was fucking brilliant. Wake up Spike.

1380
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: I thought it was brilliant. So yeah, man, when the

1381
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: movie ended, I was like, I see why, I see

1382
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 1: why it would get awards. I was thinking it was

1383
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 1: just for acting. I don't know that I would say

1384
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 1: Best Picture because I didn't love the movie like that.

1385
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 1: But again, I did think it was a beautiful film.

1386
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 1: I need to go see his movie that was before this,

1387
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: because I'm hearing it was even better. The Worst Person

1388
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 1: in the World. It was called It has the same

1389
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: woman that plays Nora in that movie. Is it English? No? No,

1390
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: no no, because I was gonna say that too. I

1391
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 1: think any foreign film should be in their language. I

1392
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: don't think they need to pick and choose. I think

1393
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,600
Speaker 1: that this is just an American way that we have

1394
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 1: grown up looking at film, because I think I might

1395
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:24,640
Speaker 1: have told you before. When I was younger, I used

1396
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 1: to not understand why people spoke other languages because people

1397
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 1: would say, oh, well C means yes. So when I

1398
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:32,600
Speaker 1: was like five, I was like, well, why don't they

1399
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 1: just fucking say yes? Why are they saying? See, this

1400
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 1: is stupid? But Americans do grow up with that very

1401
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 1: empirical idea of how not empirical imperial idea of how

1402
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 1: these things work. Well, if you're trying to appeal to

1403
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 1: an American audience, you need to speak English. But we

1404
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 1: don't understand that. Not everybody's doing that. I don't know

1405
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 1: that they made this film for American audiences. I think

1406
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 1: that they made it for whoever wanted to watch it.

1407
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 1: So when she's saying this is one thing that she

1408
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: said when she was quitting the film, she was like,

1409
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 1: this film needs to be in Norwegian, it needs to

1410
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,640
Speaker 1: be in like this is not for me to be

1411
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 1: here doing like this is not for me. Why are

1412
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,480
Speaker 1: you getting an American person to play in this movie?

1413
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:21,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just thought I thought this movie the

1414
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 1: ending was just fucking amazing, man, amazing. Like I said,

1415
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: a few people, Daniel Kluya has this effect. There's few

1416
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 1: people I know of that can just look and you like, oh,

1417
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: I know what the fuck you're thinking right now? I

1418
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 1: got you. So yeah, anyway, anybody got any final thoughts

1419
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: on sentimental value? No, man, I thought it was solid.

1420
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,440
Speaker 1: I was pleasantly surprised.

1421
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 4: It took me three tries, but once I finally got

1422
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 4: through it, I was like, all right, that solid.

1423
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: I'm not mad.

1424
01:11:55,960 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I was upset when we started, but you know,

1425
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 3: I am glad that I did watch it.

1426
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: And it's good to kind of break up the.

1427
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 2: Normal rica moreau of what we review, you know.

1428
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 3: So so at the end of the day, and it's

1429
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 3: good to have context to like all the awards and

1430
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 3: stuff that is up for so now I understand whether

1431
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 3: I agree or disagree, like I understand why, you know,

1432
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 3: and then the discussion go from there. But at least

1433
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 3: I'm not ignorant to it, you know, anymore. So, so yeah, yeah,

1434
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 3: I'm cool with it.

1435
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 1: I could have remained ignorant. If this was in English,

1436
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: this would be Spike's number one film of the year.

1437
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 1: All right, well, did you have anything? All right, Well,

1438
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this review. Hopefully all y'all

1439
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 1: motherfuckers better have enjoyed this ship. This was a task

1440
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: for some of the cats on this fucking on this panel. Okay,

1441
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 1: so make sure y'all leave some comments, let us know

1442
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 1: what we missed, and let us know if we need

1443
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 1: to go. Well, we're not going to review them, but

1444
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 1: let us know if we need to watch the other

1445
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: movies by Joaquin Trier, just watch, just watch. Okay, I'm

1446
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 1: gonna watch them regardless, but I'm just trying to never mind.

1447
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 1: I was trying to get the people involved, but Spike said,

1448
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 1: fuck all, y'all. So we will see y'all next time.

1449
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 1: We out later