1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: Lie from the Heartbeyer and the Crossroads of America. 2 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: It's Tony Cats. 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 3: Today the cartel violence. 4 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: Is not showing any stop, and Claudia Scheinbaum, the President 5 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:44,639 Speaker 1: of Mexico, is warning against war against the cartels. Now 6 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. Hey, Tony, my Spanish ain't 7 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: what it used to be. 8 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: Don't worry, I'll translate la condri narcon noise. 9 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: Option returning to war against the narcos is not an option. 10 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: Oh so you engage a military action, taking out the 11 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: leader of the largest cartel. The cartel responds by going 12 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: after the Portoviota airport, by attacking people in the streets. 13 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: You have fourteen debt, you have actions and violence, and 14 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: two thirds of the country American citizens are having a 15 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: hard time getting out or being told to shelter in place. 16 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: Cars are being set on fire in the middle of 17 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: the road. And you think now is the time to say, Hey, 18 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 1: maybe we don't want war against the narcos. They sure 19 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: want war against you. For what reason are you not 20 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: taking this opportunity to try and make your country just 21 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: that much better? Because right now your country continues to 22 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: have the same problem it has had for decades. You 23 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: can't actually see an opportunity to a better tomorrow if 24 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: you are living under the shadow of if you talk 25 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: too much, will kill you. We'll let you pretend government, 26 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: We'll let you play government. But where the cartels, we're 27 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: the ones that are really in charge. At what moment 28 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: do you say we have to put an end to this? 29 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: At what moment do you say we have to change this? 30 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: And if the answer is you don't want to change 31 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: in Claudia Scheinbaum, can I ask a question that everybody 32 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: else is asking, who pays you? 33 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 2: Oh? That's a that's a rough and tumble question right 34 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: there now, isn't it. 35 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to be here, good 36 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: to be with you? 37 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: What else did Claudia Scheinbaum have to say? 38 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: Noise, it is not an option the war with the cartels. 39 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 2: Cartels don't see it this way. 40 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: So this was, as reported, movement by the Mexican military 41 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: with some level of assistance from the United States. Was 42 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: this informational? Was it tactical? What was the information that 43 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: I don't have a great answer for. What I know 44 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: is that the leader of the Hallisco New generation cartel, 45 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: known as Elmentcho Everyone's got to have a nickname. He 46 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: was killed, and that has led to absolute violence, violence everywhere. 47 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: You have the area of Guadalajara, which is the capital 48 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: of Jalisco, this Mexican state, that has been ghost town. 49 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: You had people hiding in their home. Schools canceled today 50 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: because of this killing. The objective was try and capture 51 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: this guy into Papajalisco, to two hour drive southwest of Guadalajara. 52 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: They then tried flying into Mexico City where he died. 53 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: This according to their Defense department. You were doing this 54 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: at the behest of the United States because we want 55 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: the drug trade to end. You should want the drug 56 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: trade to end, unless, of course there's some advantage to you. 57 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: It's keeping the drug trade going. You already did the thing. 58 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: You already went after him. Now first, before anything, did 59 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: you not think that there was going to be an aftermath? 60 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: Cause there's absolutely going to be an aftermath. What kind 61 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: of crazy person thinks it's all going to be They're 62 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:33,679 Speaker 1: just gonna go, oh well. 63 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: Poor almncho, I wonder what's on TV tonight? Stop it. 64 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: You knew there would be some response, You didn't know 65 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: there would be a response. In part of my arta 66 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: I think that took a lot of people by surprise. 67 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: This is an area that is touristy and usually areas 68 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: that are left alone because the last thing the cartel 69 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: wants to do is bring heat on itself. They just 70 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: want to operate and sell their drugs. They'll kill whoever 71 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: gets in the way, and that's it. But you've got 72 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: massive violence at the airports. You have airlines that canceled 73 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: their flights, reported fourteen deaths on Sunday, seven of them. 74 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: National Guard troops. Buildings are bullet ridden, cars are burned out. 75 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: We've got American citizens who can't get out, which is 76 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: going to involve us. 77 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 2: Claudia Shinbaum. But can we go back. 78 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: To a basic question, what possibly did you think was 79 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: going to happen? 80 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 2: If you didn't want the fight, why in the world 81 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: did you start it? 82 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: Why would you go after him. 83 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: If your plan was not to continue forward? Doesn't make 84 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: any sense? Uh uh? 85 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: Get you and me sitting on a barstool, Does that 86 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: make any sense to you? Hey, we're gonna go after 87 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: the cartel leader. What's gonna happen next? I don't know, 88 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: probably lunch, yeah, yeah, But when the cartel gets angry, 89 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: that you went after the leader. 90 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: They're not gonna get angry. Yeah, Well what if they 91 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: do get angry? Yeah, they're not gonna get angry. Yeah, 92 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: but what do they do I get angry? 93 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 4: Look? 94 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: Look, look, look, look we have the cartel leader. And 95 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: that's the way it's gonna go. 96 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: And that's that. Okay, okay, okay, okay. 97 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: Now some people have noted, Hey, Tony, you keep saying 98 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: that Claudia Shinebound went after them, after this cartel leader. 99 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: What if it wasn't Claudia shinbaumd. The story from News 100 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: Nation discusses that a new US military led task force, 101 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: which specializes in intelligent collection on drug cartels, played a 102 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: role in this military raid that killed the Mexican drug 103 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: lord known as El Mensho. 104 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: This is defense. 105 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: Officials from the US saying this to Reuters. Now, one 106 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: would have to assume this was a very approved leak. 107 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: The Joint Interagency Task Force Countercartel involves multiple US government agencies. 108 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: Launched last month. The goal is to map out networks 109 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: of drug cartels on both sides of the US Mexican 110 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: board and speaking to Reuters, says NewsNation and Anonymity, they 111 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: did not offer further details and any information that the 112 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: US military led task force may have offered Mexican authorities. 113 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: Some people want to say, well, this was the CIA. 114 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: I have no idea if it is or if it isn't. 115 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: None. 116 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: If you ask me, hey, Tony, what's your faith in 117 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: the CIA? I would look at you and say, my gosh, 118 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 1: you're pretty what is my faith in quite literally any 119 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: government agency at this moment, I right now have a 120 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: little more faith in the FBI, only because I saw 121 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: cash hotel drinking with the US men's hockey team after 122 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: winning a gold medal, to which some people are very 123 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: very angry about. 124 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: I think I think those people are special. 125 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: I think drinking a beer with the boys is probably 126 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: the most normal thing we've seen in a long time. 127 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: The left will probably call that toxic masculinity, and everybody 128 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: else in America is like, I want my boys to 129 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: grow up to be like those on the hockey team. 130 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: Fight hard, get their teeth knocked out, keep fighting, keep fighting, 131 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: and then when they. 132 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 2: Win, say you know what, I love America. 133 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: Good on them, never giving up, never quitting, then going 134 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: to see the dentist. That's right, that's right. 135 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 2: I think I think. 136 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: That what immediately should happen is that Donald Trump should 137 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: pay for Jack Hughes grill. That's that's that's what's gotta happen. 138 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: You need them Trump teeth just pure gold. 139 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: Look good, look really really good. 140 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: So I can't tell you if this was some kind 141 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: of of of of American plan American plots. 142 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: We did this, we led this. The story is that the. 143 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: US compiled the detailed target package for package rail menhow 144 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: and provided it to the Mexican government for its operation 145 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: information provided by US law enforcement, US intelligence. Now, the 146 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: word on the street is that this guy Elmentcho was 147 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: very high, if not at the top of US target lits, 148 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: that he was the guy that people wanted. By the way, 149 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: Elmeno translates to Demncho, it's a nickname. It's a it's 150 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: a his name is U Is it Nemicio? I think 151 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: that's how you pronounced his first name. 152 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: And it's a. It's a nickname for Nemicio. So it's 153 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: not some other kind of of name. 154 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: It's just a nickname of his actual given name of 155 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: this drug lord who is now dead. Does this change 156 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: amount offenctandol that now pours into the United States? Can't 157 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: answer the question one would certainly hope, But I think 158 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: that the only way you actually stop this is by 159 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 1: stopping the ability of the drugs to flow into the 160 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: United States. Yes, disruption of leadership disrupts all things, but 161 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: you need to disrupt the supply, the supply chain, you 162 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: need to disrupt the workers, you need to disrupt distribution. 163 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: That stuff has to happen. So it has to be 164 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: more than just this. And if I was going to engage, 165 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: and by the way, how much time have I spent 166 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: thinking about this? If I was going to engage an 167 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: attack on the head of the organization, I also got 168 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: to be engaging some other plans. There have to be 169 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: some other attacks that take place. 170 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: What are those? 171 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: What are those other movements could be happening and could 172 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: be considered don't know. But they took their shot, and 173 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: the Mexican president isn't interested in having that war. 174 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: How do the people feel? I am asking because I 175 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: don't have the answer. 176 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: Are they just exhausted by the idea that they sit 177 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: here and pretend to vote for a government, believe they 178 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: have a government when the truth is they're run by 179 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: three or four cartels that will kill anybody that gets 180 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: in their way. 181 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: Maybe they'd like to fight back. 182 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: Maybe they're happy to have a partner in the United 183 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: States that's willing to engage that fight, and maybe we 184 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: need to be more willing to do that fight, to 185 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: have that fight to get in there. 186 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: Hey say to me, Tony, no, no more foreign wars. No, no, no, 187 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: this isn't our problem. 188 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: I'd put forth to you that Mexican cartels are absolutely 189 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: our problem. Does this mean that we have to put 190 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: troops on the ground. Not necessarily. Would I do everything 191 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: to avoid that? Absolutely? Absolutely? 192 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: I'm with you. 193 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: Do I think that we should stop providing the right 194 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: intel to reach the right people, take out their command structures, 195 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: and weaken them to then continue to do away with 196 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: their ability to distribute drugs into the United States. Yes, 197 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: we should not stop at all. I'm Tony Katz. This 198 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: is Tony Katz today, State of the Union. I am 199 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: scheduled to be there, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today. 200 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 2: Good to be here, Good to be with you. 201 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: Going to the show, go into the show called the 202 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: State of the Union, the show. 203 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: Yes, I will be there, Tony Katz. Tony Katz today. 204 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: I was invited by Senator Todd Young of Indiana as 205 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: ask me why. 206 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I. 207 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: Think that when you get the invite, I think my 208 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: job is to say, absolutely, I'll want to see this 209 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: thing up close and in person, because you already have 210 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: Democrats who are not going. Adam Schiff, I will not 211 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: be at the State of the Union good because your 212 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: neck gets in the way of other people seeing. So 213 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: we're thrilled that you know all the site lines will 214 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: be clear. And then it was it was Reuben Diego 215 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: of Arizona. I'm not going to the State of the Union, 216 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: and so I'm like, can I have your seat? I'd 217 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: probably be a pretty good view from from from there, 218 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: I will be in the gallery somewhere. I don't know where. 219 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: I don't know where I will be. I'm hoping, I 220 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: am hoping that I'm in the area of the gallery, uh, 221 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: next to the first lady right, because I have been 222 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: told that what Malani would like is a little bit 223 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: of eye. 224 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: Candy next to her. And I just want to help. 225 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: I just want to help, you know, give her some 226 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: fashion tips and say listen, listen. Uh. And next time, 227 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: next time you want to make a movie, call me, 228 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: call me and I I can help. Uh. 229 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: You want to do it again and listen. 230 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: I've already got the name Melania to electric boogaloo right right, 231 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm here for you. I'm here for you empty right. 232 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: I call her empty, right, That's that's what's her friends do. 233 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes I just call her sweet mel But that's that's 234 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: you know, that's not. 235 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,239 Speaker 2: For the for the microphones, So I don't do that whatsoever. 236 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: She's lovely. I've never met her. I I've I've met 237 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: Trump a couple of times. 238 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: I have never I have I have never met her. 239 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: I am not gonna I'm not getting any FaceTime with 240 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: the president. 241 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: That's not what this is about. I'm not going to 242 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: get that that opportunity. 243 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: And also I I you know, when when you do this, 244 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: when you're in the gallery, you you don't get to 245 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: bring your phone with you. You got to check that. 246 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna be able to do anything during 247 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: this State of the Union. It's all gonna be afterwards. 248 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna bring you everything because I've I've got 249 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: the studio set. 250 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: Up in d C. 251 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna bring you everything the next day and 252 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: I'll hopefully be able to have the live stream going 253 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: and running and everything else. Can't cannot wait, cannot wait 254 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: to bring that to you. It's going to be so good. 255 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: It's gonna be. 256 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: So so stupid good, all the backstories, everything, everything that 257 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: I have witnessed. Because there are people who aren't showing up, 258 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: and then there are people who are gonna engage in 259 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: boycotts and all the rest. There is an important move 260 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: that the Republican Party needs to make. And you know 261 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: as well as I do that the Republican Party is 262 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: not good at making important moods. They're so interested in 263 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: being nice still, they haven't learned the lessons of fighting, 264 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: and it's. 265 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: It drives me crazy if you they don't take. 266 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: Democrats not showing up, democrats not standing up for decency 267 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: and turn that into immediate ads that go along the 268 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: lines of these people are insane. You can't vote for 269 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: these people. We're the responsible people. Vote for us in November. 270 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: And by the way, they the ad can also say, listen, 271 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: we're Republicans. We ain't perfect, but these people they're freaking nuts. 272 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: That's all AD, That is it. Oh, I am convinced 273 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: if you can't take this, this information, this this nonsense, 274 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna see from the state of the Union and. 275 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: Turn that to your advantage. People are focused on, well, 276 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 2: what's Trump. 277 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: Gonna say about tariffs, Well, the Supreme Court's gonna be 278 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: right in front of him. And if I'm Trump, as 279 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: much as he may want to do it, he could 280 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: say I think the Supreme Court made a wrong decision, 281 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 1: but I actually honor the rules here, not like that 282 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: side of the aisle. There are other things I can 283 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: do it for tarifs, and I'm gonna go forward even 284 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: though I don't want him to go forward with tarris. 285 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: I would avoid the desire to punch the Scotus in 286 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: the face at the state of the Union, and I 287 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: would focus on what helps me ensure that I don't 288 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: get impeached, and that's beating the Democrats in the House 289 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: that's keeping the Senate. I honestly don't know if he 290 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: can do that. I don't know if Republicans are even 291 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: thinking this way. This is a moment to do the 292 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: other thing. I didn't say you couldn't be tough. I 293 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: didn't say you could be strong. I didn't say you 294 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: couldn't hit somebody directly in the mouth. But don't make 295 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: it Scotus make it. The Democrats make it the court ruled. 296 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: I think the court's absolutely wrong. But these Democrats call 297 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: me an authoritarian. They're the ones who said, Alexandre. 298 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: Cose Cortez, there you are AOC. Good thing. 299 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: You're not just screaming into your video camera right there? 300 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god, did you see did. 301 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 2: You not see her? 302 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: I've got that story coming up. These people don't think 303 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: you have to listen to the court. I disagree with 304 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: the court, and I say so clearly, but I listened 305 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: to the court because that's the system we have. 306 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 2: These people don't believe in the system. 307 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: If you vote for them, you're crazy. That's the hit. 308 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: He's got it. 309 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: I have no idea. 310 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: Something the chat room ask him like I get a 311 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: shout out from President Trump. I am not. 312 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 2: I am not, and if I do, I needs I've 313 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 2: done something wrong today. 314 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: I don't know how we are not calling it an 315 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: assassination attempt. It would seem to me that when a 316 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: man shows up tomorrow logo with a shotgun in his hand, 317 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: that the only way to view it is an assassination attempt. 318 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be here, Good 319 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: to be with you. The story goes that a twenty 320 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: one year old who is named, but I will. 321 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 2: Not give out his name. I don't do that. I 322 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 2: don't give out names. He was from North Carolina, showed 323 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: up tomorrow Lago. 324 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: He is carrying a shotgun in one hand and a 325 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: guess can. 326 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: In the other fuel canister, as described. 327 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: Officers, two Secret Service agents and Palm Beach County Sheriff's deputies. 328 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 2: Separate. Of course, people order him to put the gun down. 329 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: He put down the canister, raised the shotgun into a 330 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: shooting position as described by law enforcement. Law enforcement then 331 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: fired and the suspect was killed on the scene. His 332 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: mother had reported him missing. Investigators believe that this guy 333 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: drove from North Carolina to Florida on Saturday. Now, this 334 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: is a guy who is a white male. There's absolutely 335 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: nothing showing a religious affiliation or connection, an ideological affiliation 336 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: or connection, a trans affiliation or connection. Nothing as of yet. 337 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that it won't come, or that it's 338 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: possible that those. 339 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 2: Things might be learned. We're in the early stages of this. 340 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: But I am like you, and I notice when there's 341 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: a lack of information, because we have seen in horrifying 342 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: situations we have information in an hour we have information immediately, 343 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: if not sooner, and certainly, when there's information that some 344 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: people desperately want to share, because setting narrative is more 345 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: important than any fact that could be out there, they 346 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: get that information out. But when information gets blocked, when 347 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: information is prevented from reaching the people, when somehow we 348 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: don't hear things, well, we often wonder if there's a 349 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: reason for that. And I'm here to tell you that 350 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: you're not crazy that very often there's a reason for that. 351 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 2: What is being. 352 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,479 Speaker 1: Said is that there were text messages sent. Now this 353 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: is according to TMZ. My gosh, are they able to 354 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: get information over there? 355 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: At TMZ? 356 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: This twenty one year old who showed up tomorrow lago 357 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: with a gun in his hand, according the sources, was 358 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: obsessed with the Epstein files, Jeffrey Epstein, the sexual abuse, 359 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: the sex trafficking, the very rich and wealthy people who 360 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: were involved and connected. They came from all walks of life. 361 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, not only has the former 362 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:56,719 Speaker 1: Prince Andrew been arrested, but there is an ambassador Mendelssohn. 363 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 2: Who has been now arrested it as well. 364 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: Just because you were named in the Epstein files does 365 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: not mean. 366 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 2: That you did anything wrong or anything untoured. 367 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: People were on the island, people who engaged in sex trafficking, 368 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: in sexual abuse of children. We need to find them, 369 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: We need to prosecute them, and if guilty, they need 370 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: to go to jail for forever. 371 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 2: And yes, I'll say it again. 372 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: The Trump administration did a crappy job of handling this. 373 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: They dismissed it when they should not have. Pambondi acted 374 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: like an amateur. They're still behind the eight ball, and 375 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: they gave the Democrats a pillar in how to run 376 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six. They gave them a lifeline. You 377 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: can yell at me all you want. I'm right, I 378 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: am discussing this. If you guys are gonna be with 379 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: me Saturday for what was supposed to be like a 380 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: big gallon, a big party about Trump year later and 381 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: goung over the last year and how. 382 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 2: Cool things have been. 383 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: But this has turned into a here's the map to 384 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: win the midterms. We got ourselves a fight and it 385 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: will not be easy. But you have to understand what 386 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: they're doing to understand. 387 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: What we need to do. 388 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: And the wei is an ever growing number of people 389 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: because what they're doug doing is a very small amount 390 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: of people. But my god, the gas lighting and the 391 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: manipulation works. 392 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: How do you fight that? How do you deal with this? Well? 393 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: I have got that story, I have got that plan. 394 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: If you want tickets, they may still be on sale. 395 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: I thought they were closing up, but I saw this 396 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: morning they weren't. 397 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 2: Tickets to Tony kats dot com. 398 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: I would love to see you there this Saturday, So 399 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: twenty eighth downtown, Indianapolis, come on out. It's gonna be fantastic. 400 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: The bourbon, the food, cigars, it desserts. I got it 401 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: all for you. I'm a believer in a party. It's 402 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: gonna be amazing. Tickets to Tony kats dot com. Get 403 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: your tickets right now. The Epstein Files has turned into 404 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: a buzzword for saying the things that they've already said 405 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: about Trump. Trump a fascist, Trump, a Nazi, Trump, of this, 406 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: Trump of that. Now they can just throw on Trump pedophile. 407 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: There's no proof of anything like this. 408 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 2: They make it up. 409 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: They're lying, they know they're lying. 410 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: They don't care. 411 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: Trump has been shown to be the guy saying Jeffany 412 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: Epstein's a weirdo, Julie Maxwell is evil. Somebody look into 413 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: these people. He's already been shown to be that guy. 414 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 2: The left does not care. They don't care. 415 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: They think that John Ossoff, the Senator from Georgia, some 416 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: kind of hero because he refers to it as the 417 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: Epstein class. 418 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 2: Boom boo. Democrats are all over the Epstein class. 419 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton and Whoopi Goldberg are all over 420 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: this stuff. Democrats left brighton center all over this stuff. 421 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:54,959 Speaker 2: What are we talking about? 422 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: By the way, it shows some of the remarkable evil 423 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: that here we have, the abuse of children, And all 424 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: progressives can say is, now, how can we use this 425 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: to our political advantage? How can we hurt Trump with this? 426 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 1: It's what they're doing. This twenty one year old was 427 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: obsessed with Epstein. He sent a text message. As is reported, 428 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: he sent a text message which is obtained by TMZ. 429 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: That read, I don't know if you read up. 430 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: On the Epstein files, but evil is real and unmistakable. 431 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 2: The best people like. 432 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: You and I can do is use what little influence 433 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: we have tell other people about what you hear about 434 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 1: the Epstein files and what the government is doing about it. 435 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: Raise awareness. So I don't know what to do with it. 436 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: That the belief was people were getting away with it. 437 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: I don't want anybody getting away with abusing children, but 438 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: I want the truth to be told and not some 439 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: lie about Trumps pedophile. 440 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 2: It's too gross for words. 441 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: So did this lead him to go and try and 442 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: kill Donald Trump? We might find that as we get 443 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: more information that original story is not accurate. That often 444 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: does happen. But is there any question that instead of 445 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: being a society focused on the protecting of children and 446 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: instead progressive solely being focused on how can we use 447 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: this to attack Trump? We turn it into a pillar 448 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: the Democrats have they turned into a pillar of how 449 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: they're going to run further winning them in terms? Is 450 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: there any question that people don't get ginned up they 451 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: have to do something. Look at this threat, look at 452 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: this pedophile, look at this nazi, look at this fascist. 453 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: How many more names can they come up with based 454 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 2: on nothing? 455 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: The clear and obvious answer is that when you refuse 456 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: to engage honestly, but you only engage through the lens 457 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: of political victory, you are clearly saying anybody who disagrees 458 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: with us as the enemy, you then dehumanize the enemy. 459 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: And is there any doubt, any question that That's exactly 460 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: what they did for years, saying that Trump was a 461 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: threat to democracy that led to a lone wolf trying 462 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: to kill him in Butler, Pennsylvania. Is there any question 463 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,959 Speaker 1: that what MS then MSNBC and CNN and the New 464 00:29:55,040 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: York Times and social media did, Is there any question 465 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,479 Speaker 1: that that was the goal? Because for me, there's no 466 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: real question that. 467 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 2: That was the goal. 468 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: I didn't even say anything wild. All I did was 469 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: repeat what it is they're doing. How did it not? 470 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: Of course it is the thing to try and gin 471 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: people up. It was the call for a lone wolf. 472 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: What do you think these things are? I think that 473 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: if you want to say that it's wrong for the 474 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: president and wrong for the administration to try and stonewall 475 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: on anything regarding Epstein, that would have been correct. But 476 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: since the passage of the legislation, the information that's come out, 477 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: there is no stonewalling. That's just not the case. You 478 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: could say, a Pam Bondy, why are you engaging in 479 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: in redacting this or adacting that. 480 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 2: Pam Bondi screwed up? Of course she did. 481 00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: You could say, so Pam Bondy should be replaced. It 482 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: took too long. Your advice was terrible. And yes, Epstein 483 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: is the one place where Donald Trump has missed. He 484 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: misread the audience. It's a rare thing for him to do, 485 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: but he did. The Left should be focused on how 486 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: do we put the people who abuse children in jail? 487 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: And they're not. 488 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: I can prove this by discussing where they are on 489 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: illegal immigration. I'm going to get into a conversation regarding 490 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: Lake and Riley and President Trump's speech today from the 491 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: White House with the families who have been the victims 492 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: of violence by foreign criminals. The rational response is, we 493 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: do not want American citizens killed by people here illegally. 494 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: So if you remove the people here illegally and you 495 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: stop people from coming illegally, no one can be killed 496 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: by that group of people. That's the rational mind, the 497 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: just mind. How dare you go after these fine immigrants 498 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: who should be voters because they want voters. 499 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 2: They don't care. They don't care the Lake and Riley 500 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 2: got murdered. They want the votes. They don't care that 501 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: children were abused. 502 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: They want to hurt Trump and they want power more 503 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: than they want children protected. And those who abused children 504 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: in jail. I don't know how else to say it. 505 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how else, what other proof does one need? 506 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: And the answers they don't. You can't vote for these people. 507 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: We'll learn more about this attempted assassin, because I want 508 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: to be clear. 509 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 2: I'm sticking with that it wasn't an attempted assassination. 510 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: Sure, only because good guys with a gun stopped him, 511 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: only because they got their first I'm Tony Katz, and 512 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: this is Tony Katz today. 513 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 5: Here's been Bavid looking got Chat, hughes crack as far down, 514 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 5: walk up behind a neck, Adams Forreski US puts a 515 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 5: rob but I'll take the huppers. 516 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: What a clutch of coppers? 517 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 2: Checks Witch the dolls for the United States. 518 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: Well, the first Cup ships the n J day back 519 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: the cut in the United States takes the ball. 520 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 4: The US wins gold two to one over the Canadians 521 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 4: in men's hockey in overtime, just like the way the 522 00:33:54,920 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 4: US women defeated Canada to one to win the gold 523 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 4: in hockey in overtime. 524 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 2: You couldn't script that, could not script it. 525 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, incredible stuff. And then they're 526 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: celebrating and the guys, guy Jack Hughes doesn't have any teeth. 527 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 2: He's like, I love this team and I love America 528 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 2: and this is so great. 529 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: And Cash Mattel the FBI directors in the locker room, 530 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: chugging a beer with them, and people are upset with him, 531 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: I know, seeing guys be guys and celebrating a win. 532 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: That's all so terrible and awful. And Trump called and 533 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: invited him to the White House. I think he invited 534 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 1: the women as well. 535 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 2: He should have. He absolutely should have. Some people were asking. 536 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: Were they invited or will I see them at the 537 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: State of the Union, because I'm gonna be at the 538 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: State of the Union, and I'm like, I don't know, 539 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: did they get Are they expected to. 540 00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 2: Be at the State of the Union. 541 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: Because if I get to hang out with the hockey guys, 542 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm hanging out with the hockey guys, which means I 543 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: might not make it to the show the next day. 544 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. I do not know how that works, 545 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 2: but that's. 546 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: Going to happen, because if there's an opportunity to drink 547 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 1: with the hockey guys, I'm not even a drinker. 548 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 2: I'm a sipper. But guess what I'm doing. 549 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 1: Unbelievable win, unbelievable story. The men and the women would 550 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: love to see them both, and they both seem to 551 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: really be happy they could represent the country, which. 552 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: Is nice to see. 553 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: It's actually all we asked for. That was it. Good job, congratulations, 554 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: see you well done. 555 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 2: We'll play it. 556 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: This is Tony Kats today.