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Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome into the Fan Morning Show. You

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Speaker 1: made it all the way to Wednesday, we start to

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Speaker 1: turn the page on the successes this past weekend for

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Speaker 1: the Colts and I, you and everybody else when we

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Speaker 1: start getting ready for a regular season debut for the

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Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers tomorrow night back on the field Saturday for IU,

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Kevin Bowen, Good morning, James Boyd, Mark Techton.

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Speaker 1: We have had you busy and running for the last

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Speaker 2: Right I think the Tasmanian Devil came into the studio

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Speaker 2: last night because cameras were all over the place, monitors

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Speaker 2: If you usually watch the show on Facebook, not that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we've got people working on Facebook. I don't

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Speaker 1: care of for you as soon as we can. Good morning,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen. Welcome into Wednesday. I guess quiet day for

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Speaker 1: the Colts yesterday, but maybe they had one or two

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Speaker 3: Yeah, about a handful of defensive end edge ish guys

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Speaker 3: in there. They signed man I believe who attended the

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Speaker 3: James Boyd. So I think Seth Coleman defensive end injuries

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Speaker 3: for the Colts right now. So yes, Seth Coleman joining

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Speaker 3: their practice squad. So yeah, pretty quiet Tuesday though, all

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Speaker 3: in all, And i'd say that league wide, you know,

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Speaker 3: around the league. So back on the practice field today

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Speaker 3: for the lowly Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 1: All right. NBA started last night with a couple of games. James,

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Speaker 1: did you find yourself gazing at any TV's at any

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm always going to tune into Opening Night. I

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Speaker 4: thought it was a pretty good theater out there in

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Speaker 4: OKC with the Rockets and Katie lead Rockets come into

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Speaker 4: town for their ring ceremony in Okay, Se pulled out

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Speaker 4: and double overtime. That was a weird game. And then

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Speaker 4: we saw the Lebron list Lakers with Luca struggling their

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Speaker 4: like I said, I'll try to watch Steph, Katie, Lebron,

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Speaker 4: all the old heads until they're not out there anymore.

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Speaker 1: Well, they're gonna be out there for a while, and

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Speaker 1: hopefully you get Lebron back at some point in time,

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Speaker 1: Lakers as time rolls by. But of course we're all

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Speaker 1: ready waiting and willing to watch the Pacers as they

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Speaker 1: get going tomorrow night. But same questions today is we

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Speaker 1: had yesterday JB, Like what's the depth gonna look like?

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Speaker 1: And what's the point guard positions particularly gonna look like?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know how much of it has changed

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Speaker 4: twenty yesterday and today, so we'll see what it all brings.

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Speaker 4: I did like what Rick Carlisle had to say yesterday

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Speaker 5: Hadn't really played that position before.

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Speaker 4: But considering like you said, Jeff, the lack of depth

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Speaker 1: Yeah, We've got Daniel Jones here in Indianapolis, and I'm

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Speaker 1: of New York City. I was talking about my general

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Speaker 1: Like I say, fun place to visit for a couple

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, Daniel Jones is thriving here in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: and it gets magnified with all the media out there.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure that the intense pressure of the Jackson

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Speaker 1: best place to go, Kevin.

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Speaker 3: You and Daniel Jones bonding over your hatred of the

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Speaker 3: Ricker broad right, Pugh, look at that, you guys can

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Speaker 1: It's just, you know, here's what I say about New

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Speaker 4: Like, random don't like the experience.

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Speaker 1: I've been there. I've been there thirty forty times.

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Speaker 2: I was like, they bowed Dale Jones and told him

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you they know who he was.

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Speaker 5: And then he was like, you know what, I.

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Speaker 1: Hate this play the rats in the subway?

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Speaker 1: I have seen a rat nearly the size of a

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Speaker 5: New York May. Maybe that's the reason why you don't

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Speaker 1: Were going, no, young Rickard, it's people upon people. You

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Speaker 1: can't see the sun half the time because the beautiful,

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Speaker 5: I don't want to say my boy is hating an architecture.

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Speaker 2: Is flopping around.

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Speaker 1: No, they have to have those tall buildings, says. There

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Speaker 1: are literally people upon people upon people. There's at four

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. There are some great, wonderful things about

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Speaker 3: I think Daniel Jones has found a very quaint part

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Speaker 3: And it's a couple of football nerds right now running

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Speaker 3: the NFL into the ground offensively. So again, the Colts

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Speaker 3: you know. But back in twenty nineteen the Colts got

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Speaker 3: of you know, is this fools gold is it not?

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Speaker 3: Is there more stain power with this start versus the other,

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Speaker 1: Well, we got a busy show for you today. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk about all that stuff with the Colts, and we've

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Speaker 1: us to the top day our Scott Dolson, the athletic

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Speaker 1: top of the hour eight o'clock, and then at eight

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Speaker 1: thirty Pat forty, one of the great all time college

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Speaker 1: on what we're watching here with the Indiana Hoosiers. So

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Speaker 1: we've got a huge day of information gathering and fun

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Speaker 1: what is it typical you guys work your tails off.

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Speaker 1: I've always admired and maybe because I was there once,

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Speaker 1: Well, the reason I bring that up like, I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: is what were you? What did you have going on?

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Speaker 3: Meeting?

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Speaker 1: Huh? Another violation.

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Speaker 5: I got to file one of those myself.

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Speaker 3: I've said this before. I don't know. I'm probably one

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Speaker 3: the international games. I think it's really cool that the

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Speaker 3: To me, one game whatever every third week, or however

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Speaker 1: with the Indianapolis Colts players were off yesterday, coordinators met

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Speaker 1: Anything that anybody said on the teleconferences, James, that struck

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Speaker 1: College football, we're midweek two for Indiana's they get rid

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Speaker 1: eight o'clock this morning. Kevin, anything in particular you'd like

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Speaker 1: PACER's injury report looks like for today again seven and

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Speaker 1: we get ready for a big Wednesday here at ninety

437
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Speaker 1: three five and one O seven to five, the fan

438
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Speaker 1: thanksers getting ready to start back up. The cults are

439
00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,359
Speaker 1: doing well, you was doing well. We got perdue basketball.

440
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Speaker 1: I know, I saw like a broken record, but I

441
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Speaker 1: couldn't help thinking last night Mark watching the NBA return

442
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Speaker 1: to NBC and Roundball Rock and Michael Jordan saying he

443
00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,879
Speaker 1: didn't pick up a basketball anymore, and I'm curious what

444
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Speaker 1: his contributions are going to be this year. Like it

445
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Speaker 1: just feels like all is right in the sports world

446
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Speaker 1: at this moment in time.

447
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Speaker 2: So far, so good, so good back turn back the

448
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Speaker 2: clock with Round Ball Rock last.

449
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Speaker 1: Night, Man, I was digging that. I'm I'm not gonna lie,

450
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Speaker 1: but yeah, NBA season is already here. We had a

451
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Speaker 1: couple of games last night. Pacers get going again tomorrow night.

452
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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that. And it's obviously this is

453
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Speaker 1: I think one of the best times of the year.

454
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Speaker 1: Everybody always talks about Spring and the Masters is fantastic.

455
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Speaker 1: It's coming off the Final Four. That's a great time

456
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Speaker 1: of year, no question, But you give me regular season basketball,

457
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Speaker 1: the middle of the football season. Fall Classic is about

458
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Speaker 1: to start. This is not a bad time for sports.

459
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Speaker 1: And you look at the overtime win last night. There

460
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Speaker 1: was a hockey game I was watching last night with

461
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Speaker 1: Tampa and the Bruins that got decided very late. Like,

462
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Speaker 1: if you can't enjoy the drama and the ups and

463
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Speaker 1: the downs and the excitement of sports, I don't know.

464
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Speaker 1: I can't help you. I don't know what to tell you.

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Speaker 3: People who don't love sports, I don't know them. That's

466
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Speaker 3: probably the best way I could put it. I don't

467
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Speaker 3: want to know them. Maybe it's too harsh for a

468
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Speaker 3: statement there, but yes, it's a great time nightly appointment television.

469
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Speaker 3: We're starting to get more into that aspect of the

470
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Speaker 3: sports calendar again. Pacer start one of eighty two coming

471
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Speaker 3: up tomorrow night inside of gamebridge Field. That sounds like

472
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Speaker 3: there will be a little bit I know Rick kind

473
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Speaker 3: of shared this with us if you missed Rick Carlisle

474
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Speaker 3: that's up on the podcast from yesterday. It sounds like

475
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Speaker 3: they'll be a little bit of a banner reveal. I

476
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Speaker 3: don't expect like a long drawn out ceremony by any means,

477
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Speaker 3: but at least some sort of unveiling tomorrow night before

478
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Speaker 3: the tip.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking about the ups and downs, Like I

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Speaker 1: don't member, and I've been fortunate enough to be a

481
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Speaker 1: part of some really cool moments and celebrations of the

482
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Speaker 1: years in sports. But that win to clinch the Eastern

483
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Speaker 1: Conference last year, and James, you were around walking back

484
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Speaker 1: through downtown from the Fieldhouse just over here at the studio,

485
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Speaker 1: and the streets were alive, and people were happy, and

486
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Speaker 1: they were high five and and horns were honking and

487
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Speaker 1: everybody was toasting one another out in the streets in

488
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Speaker 1: front of the bars and stuff like that. Like that's

489
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Speaker 1: what sports can do for an entire city, right there, James,

490
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Speaker 1: and I love that about sports absolutely, And I guess

491
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Speaker 1: you know your goal is to hopefully get an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to experience that again.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it'll be this year considering the injured

494
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Speaker 5: to Tyre's.

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Speaker 4: Halliburton, but that is the goal that he laid out,

496
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Speaker 4: and honestly emotionally he laid it out in that Netflix

497
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Speaker 4: Starting five documentary. So looking forward to the unique version

498
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Speaker 4: of the Pacers that I put it out there and

499
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Speaker 4: what they can do this season as well.

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Speaker 1: You said you had to spend the day for the

501
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Speaker 1: athletic kind of following the Cam Jones stuff yesterday. What

502
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Speaker 1: did you find out? What were you able to discover that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, originally it was labeled as, like I

504
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Speaker 4: want to say, it was a couple of diferentnatlysts that

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Speaker 4: did this, like he took the police like a chase.

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Speaker 4: But after you read the probable cause affidavit, like not

507
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Speaker 4: to make excuses for the guy, because the police officer

508
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Speaker 4: said he you know, allegedly clocked him allegedly going about

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Speaker 4: nineteen or fifty. So I'm like, I can't really absolve

510
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Speaker 4: you of that, that's absurd. But cam Jones apparently told

511
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Speaker 4: the police I didn't know I was being pulled over.

512
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Speaker 4: So if you keep that in mind, and it sounds

513
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Speaker 4: like he didn't like take him like on some wild

514
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Speaker 4: goose chase. He just took him off the expressway and

515
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Speaker 4: you know, pulled over or whatever the case may be.

516
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Speaker 4: But it doesn't sound like just to clear this up

517
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Speaker 4: like that, he was like, oh my god, the police

518
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Speaker 4: are behind me.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna step on the gas. Like it didn't seem

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Speaker 5: like it was that.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know what that mean for like the

522
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Speaker 4: charges in the case, but from the reaction that he had.

523
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Speaker 5: When he spoke at practice yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Kevin, you were there, you can probably speak more to that,

525
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Speaker 4: and then a reaction that Ric Carlo had had on

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Speaker 4: these airwaves. It sounds like they're not too worried about,

527
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Speaker 4: you know, what happened, but still not an overall I

528
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Speaker 4: guess a good thing to have on the resume as

529
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Speaker 4: a rookie who hasn't played an NBA game yet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's probably a good way to put it.

531
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Speaker 3: James as the Pacers probably would sum it up as

532
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Speaker 3: an overreaction. Yeah, I think is how Rick Carlisle shared

533
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Speaker 3: that with us. He kind of backed that up over

534
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Speaker 3: at practice. Yeah. Cam Jones stayed an apology yesterday prior

535
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Speaker 3: to the start of practice. So uh, I think, you know,

536
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Speaker 3: in trying to whatever move on from this, that's probably

537
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Speaker 3: the best way to handle it. And Cam Jones from

538
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Speaker 3: a health standpoint on the floor, he has been hurt

539
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Speaker 3: back injury. I believe I wasn't supposed to play for

540
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Speaker 3: the next couple of weeks anyways.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Carlo said he'll get evaluated again November ninth.

542
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Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of the TJ McConnell timeline here. One thing

543
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Speaker 3: to go back to when you guys are touched on,

544
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Speaker 3: you know, Halli Burton and kind of whatever life without him.

545
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Speaker 3: I'll go back to remember Alex Golden said this when

546
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Speaker 3: we had him on at some point here in the

547
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Speaker 3: off season of you know, how are the Pacers going

548
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Speaker 3: to play Halliburton basketball without Halliburton?

549
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Speaker 5: Great question, honestly, Like.

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Speaker 3: You can play I think with pace without him, Like

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Speaker 3: I think there will be an inherent effort to try

552
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Speaker 3: and continue to run like that to me, I think

553
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Speaker 3: has been pretty much kind of branded into these Pacers.

554
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Speaker 3: But when you run, it oftentimes can bring some risk,

555
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Speaker 3: and the risk being turnovers, the risk being not handling

556
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Speaker 3: the basketball to the level that you know, maybe more

557
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Speaker 3: of a controlled pace you're able to do. And one

558
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Speaker 3: of the many I would say, arguably Halliburton's greatest gift

559
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Speaker 3: is to be such a my just a maestro of

560
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Speaker 3: it all and throw passes and get guys involved and

561
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Speaker 3: assist after assist and get guys open shots. And then

562
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Speaker 3: you add it up at the end of forty eight

563
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Speaker 3: minutes and you're like, he had one turnover? How like

564
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Speaker 3: you watch NBA games every night and all these dow

565
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Speaker 3: turn the ball over all of them, even the great ones.

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Speaker 5: That's his superpower, honor.

567
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Speaker 3: So that would be my question, Like Andrew Nemhard running,

568
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Speaker 3: Benedict Matherin running, Aaron E. Smith running, Yeah, I can

569
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Speaker 3: see all of that playing out, but running efficiently, running

570
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Speaker 3: without the bad I guess aspect to it, that is

571
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Speaker 3: something that Halliburn does so so well. And obviously right now,

572
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Speaker 3: from a point guard standpoint, Rick saidy, yesterday, you know,

573
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Speaker 3: the backup point guard tomorrow night could be a guy

574
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Speaker 3: that's never played point guard in an NBA game. M Like,

575
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Speaker 3: that's just the reality of where they're at. From a

576
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Speaker 3: depth chart standpoint, if that's Jaris Walker as a point forward,

577
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Speaker 3: if that's Taylor Peter in his first ever NBA game,

578
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Speaker 3: you know whatever that looks like for them. So I

579
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Speaker 3: think got something that'll be a huge topic.

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Speaker 1: And to your point to drill down on a little

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Speaker 1: bit deeper too. There are point guards and then there

582
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Speaker 1: are point guards. We got so used to, Like God's right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: point a w D. We got so used to the

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Speaker 1: to the numbers last year, James, it seemed like every

585
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Speaker 1: night it was twelve assists, one turn over, fourteen assists,

586
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Speaker 1: zero turnovers, thirteen assists, one turnover, fifteen assists, turf tunarovers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the ratio was just absurd for the second

588
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Speaker 1: half of that season last year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's why I think, again love the confidence

590
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Speaker 4: from Pacers fans, and they should be confident in this

591
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Speaker 4: group just because of the brasilience they've shown no matter

592
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Speaker 4: what's kind of thrown it in the last couple of years.

593
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Speaker 4: But when you lose an all NBA caliber player, a

594
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Speaker 4: top fifteen player in the world, that is hard to overcome.

595
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Speaker 4: And I think it's even harder to overcome when that

596
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Speaker 4: player is your system. So we'll see how they're able

597
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Speaker 4: to adapt that system. I know Rire Carlos talked at

598
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Speaker 4: length about this yesterday and even brought up his love

599
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Speaker 4: of music and how music can be shifted and composed

600
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Speaker 4: in different ways. Or we're gonna see the musical chairs

601
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Speaker 4: when it comes to the Pacers this year and how

602
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Speaker 4: they look without Hallibert.

603
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Speaker 3: And I don't overreact to a four game preseason sample size,

604
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Speaker 3: but they did turn the ball over at a very

605
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Speaker 3: long I mean rate in the preseason. Now I understand

606
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Speaker 3: that you obviously are mixing matching lineups, and you know

607
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Speaker 3: you're not playing your starters, you know, into the second

608
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Speaker 3: halves of really many, if any of those games. So

609
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Speaker 3: that is something that definitely deserves be watching. But yeah,

610
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Speaker 3: point guard rotation or I should say point guard depth

611
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Speaker 3: and center rotation. How much Obie topping with that starting unit?

612
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Speaker 3: Is that your You know, if they get into a

613
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Speaker 3: two possession game of five minutes to go tomorrow night

614
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Speaker 3: with the Thunder, is it Obi topping with that group?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 3: Look at how the Thunder started last night, Hartenstein and

617
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Speaker 3: chet Holmgren in the starting lineup, that obviously is you know,

618
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Speaker 3: a pretty big starting lineup. How do you counter with that?

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting to watch. In the meantime, we

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Speaker 1: Good morning, my friend, how you doing today?

625
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Speaker 7: Doing well?

626
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Speaker 1: How we're doing? Things are good? We appreciate you being

627
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Speaker 1: here a little bit earlier than normal. I'm just curious.

628
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Speaker 1: I've only been here for thirteen years, you've been here

629
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: for a while, You've been covering this team for a while.

630
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: What's going on with the culture right now? And how

631
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: do you explain this six and one start last night?

632
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Speaker 1: Or are this year? When given the fact that that

633
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Speaker 1: we all thought that the Coults would be doing well

634
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Speaker 1: to try and get to five hundred this year.

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Speaker 7: They excuse me, they are playing with I know this

636
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 7: sounds like a simplistic answer, but they're playing with like

637
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 7: a rare confidence right now. I think it was as

638
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Speaker 7: Molley Cox had said to me the other day, he said,

639
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Speaker 7: you know, we we feel like we're going to score

640
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Speaker 7: forty every game, and he was serious, you know, and

641
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 7: now again you have to have talent to do that,

642
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 7: but they don't have a significantly difference in talent from

643
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Speaker 7: previous years. I think there's something about this team, and

644
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 7: certainly Daniel Jones is part of it, but it's not

645
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 7: the only thing. They have. Just they have unlocked something

646
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 7: where they really have tapped into what they're doing. Schematically, yes,

647
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 7: but but what they are doing has unlocked this this

648
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 7: level of confidence and they have this swagger that I've

649
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Speaker 7: never seen from them, at least not in not in

650
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Speaker 7: not in the recent past. So it is really interesting

651
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Speaker 7: to watch. That's the best I can give you. It

652
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 7: really is remarkable.

653
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Speaker 5: Holders.

654
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Speaker 4: Should the Colts be buyers at the trade deadline?

655
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean yes in theory. I think my answer

656
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Speaker 7: to this has I don't know what's going on me

657
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 7: this morning, sorry, but I think my answer to this

658
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 7: has been largely that the rules, the usual rules should

659
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Speaker 7: be broken this year, you know, in terms of what

660
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Speaker 7: they might typically do. In other words, you know, Chris

661
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 7: Bouder has ten ten, has tended to be pretty conservative

662
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Speaker 7: at the trade deadline. If anything, you know, he might

663
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Speaker 7: trade away as opposed to trading four. I think this

664
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Speaker 7: year is different because I think they really have a chance.

665
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Speaker 7: I mean, they have the best record in the NFL.

666
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 7: We'll see if that holds a long way to go

667
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 7: and the schedule gets harder, but I mean they're in

668
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Speaker 7: position to do something big that he's never had a

669
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Speaker 7: chance to do for sure, So I think the rules

670
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Speaker 7: that he typically has to be broken this year. However,

671
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Speaker 7: buyers for what It depends on what's available, and I

672
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Speaker 7: don't know that the availability is what people want, you know,

673
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Speaker 7: I mean, will what's available to them solve their problems

674
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Speaker 7: that I don't know. You know, you look at Trey Hendrickson,

675
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Speaker 7: you think the Bengals are trading that guy. Now they

676
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 7: think Joe Flacco is going to get them somewhere. I mean,

677
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Speaker 7: they may be wrong, but we'll see. I'm skeptical. But

678
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Speaker 7: they had a big win the other night and they

679
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Speaker 7: feel like they got a shot, right, So I don't

680
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Speaker 7: see that happening, you know, just things like that. I

681
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 7: think that's going to be the question. Who's available and

682
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Speaker 7: what's it going to cost? Does it make sense even

683
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Speaker 7: in light of what they have a chance to do

684
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Speaker 7: this year? And that's what's the tougher part of the question.

685
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Speaker 4: So to follow off to that holder And again I

686
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 4: see where you're coming from. But I guess my deeper

687
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 4: question is when you look at this pass rush or

688
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Speaker 4: even the secondary, do you feel like can you sleep

689
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Speaker 4: at night if six weeks from now you didn't take

690
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 4: that swing on even just a serviceable veteran, someone you

691
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 4: know can help you or upgrade at least give you

692
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Speaker 4: a little boost in those areas. I mean, I don't know,

693
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Speaker 4: linebackers another group that probably needs some help, but just

694
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Speaker 4: one of those because in my mind, I just don't

695
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Speaker 4: see how this pass rush in particular, at least in

696
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 4: my mind, how it gets better because I haven't seen

697
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Speaker 4: enough from that group unfortunately, even though they've been invested

698
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Speaker 4: in a lot, considering where these guys.

699
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Speaker 5: Have been drafted.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I don't think their defense is a

701
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Speaker 7: championship level defense right now. A lot of that is

702
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Speaker 7: because of injuries. I mean, I think if the I

703
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 7: think if the secondary was at full strength, you might

704
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Speaker 7: see more from the pass rush. That's the one thing

705
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Speaker 7: I think we have glossed over a little bit is that, yes,

706
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 7: they're not winning enough upfront. I'm not going to pretend

707
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Speaker 7: that they are. However, quarterbacks will have to hold the

708
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Speaker 7: ball more if you have tighter coverage, and let's just

709
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Speaker 7: be honest. I mean I might as well be playing

710
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Speaker 7: corner at this point, right. I Mean it's tough right now,

711
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Speaker 7: right and I think the injuries are what they are,

712
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Speaker 7: and I gotta give I'm giving Chris Ballad some grace

713
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Speaker 7: on that because he did address the secondary and he

714
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 7: did right, and we all know that when everybody agrees.

715
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Speaker 7: But the NFL is brutal, and this is just one

716
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Speaker 7: of those years, man, where you know, injuries come in bunches,

717
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Speaker 7: and the secondary is one of those spots where you

718
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Speaker 7: tend to have these things happen, those soft tissue injuries,

719
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Speaker 7: lower body injuries, et cetera. And they just have and

720
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Speaker 7: overwhelmed this year. So I guess, well, I'm saying, is

721
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Speaker 7: I agree with you? Yes, I don't think this defense

722
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Speaker 7: the way it's playing right now, I don't think you

723
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Speaker 7: can win the Super Bowl like that. I mean, right,

724
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Speaker 7: we might as well be talking about it in those terms.

725
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Speaker 8: Right.

726
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Speaker 7: You get the best record in the NFL, so we

727
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 7: might as well raise the bar pretty damn high. And

728
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Speaker 7: I think I know that's what they're thinking, so we

729
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Speaker 7: might as well. So I agree with you. I think

730
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Speaker 7: they have to figure out how they can, you know,

731
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Speaker 7: muster something on defense to really get to a championship level,

732
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Speaker 7: because I don't know that this defense is.

733
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Speaker 3: ESPN dot com, where you can find the work of

734
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Speaker 3: Steven Holder. He's with us year on the Payloss Slickers hotline. Steven,

735
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Speaker 3: I hate to, you know, ask your brain to go

736
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Speaker 3: back six years, but I guess I will. You know,

737
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Speaker 3: we haven't had too many of these starts in the

738
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Speaker 3: Chris Ballen era. Of course, getting off to you know,

739
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,959
Speaker 3: six and one, and you know being at this position

740
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Speaker 3: as the month of October starts to come to a close.

741
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Speaker 3: But in twenty nineteen they did get off to a

742
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Speaker 3: five and two start. It's a topic I wanted to

743
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Speaker 3: get into a little bit later today, but haven't really

744
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 3: had the chance to expand on it. But when you

745
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 3: think back to twenty nineteen, obviously you had the luck

746
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 3: retirement that shocked everybody, you know, just weeks before the

747
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 3: start of the season, Jacoby Brissett gets thrust into starter

748
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Speaker 3: duty and there they are starting five and two. Do

749
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Speaker 3: you see any similarities to that season at all? Differences?

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Speaker 3: How do you kind of view the two best starts

751
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Speaker 3: in the Ballad era.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I've thought about that. I think this is different,

753
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Speaker 7: and the reason for it is, first off, that team

754
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 7: was not blowing people out the way this team is right,

755
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 7: They were not overwhelming opponents. They were playing well, and

756
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Speaker 7: I think they get credit for that. Obviously they didn't

757
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 7: sustain it. But this team is playing so far and

758
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 7: away better than their opponents. And granted I do subscribe

759
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Speaker 7: to the idea that the schedule hasn't been that tough,

760
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Speaker 7: I think that is a fair thing to at least discuss.

761
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 7: I don't think it matters though, because look at how

762
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 7: they're beating people, that's my thing. I mean, even the Chargers,

763
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Speaker 7: who are not, you know, an easy opponent so to speak.

764
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Speaker 7: I mean, they were leading that game at two points

765
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Speaker 7: by two different junctures, by twenty one points, right, So

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Speaker 7: I don't recall the margin of victory or all that

767
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 7: in twenty nineteen, but that team did not look like

768
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 7: this team, you know, they just didn't. And I don't

769
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Speaker 7: think there's been a win other than the Denver game

770
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Speaker 7: where you looked at them and said, you know, I

771
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 7: don't know if they're going to pull this one out.

772
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Speaker 7: I mean, they have been in control of every game.

773
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Speaker 7: It's crazy, just about. So that's the difference. And then frankly,

774
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Speaker 7: just offensively, and the quarterback play is different for sure,

775
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 7: just offensively the level of offense they're playing at, which

776
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 7: I think looks sustainable, that is different for sure. So

777
00:35:55,160 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 7: but that twenty nineteen season does reinforce how difficult it

778
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 7: is to carry it through. It's tough and it will

779
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 7: get tougher, all right. And don't don't fall off if

780
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 7: you're a fan if they lose a couple, you know,

781
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 7: in the next six weeks and say, ah, that knew it. No,

782
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 7: it's going to happen. It is what it is. That's

783
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Speaker 7: the NFL.

784
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Speaker 1: So just fyi, Stephenholder ESPN dot Com joining us here

785
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Speaker 1: on the Fan Morning show in the Payliss Slickers hotline,

786
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Speaker 1: you talk about that offense and I'm thinking back and

787
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Speaker 1: maybe one or two of the years with Andrew Luck,

788
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: certainly with Peyton Manning. When you're sitting there in the

789
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Speaker 1: in the press box and you're watching this team, do

790
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: you kind of get the feeling that every possession you

791
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about getting points out of it at

792
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: this point in time, like, when was the last time

793
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: we felt that way?

794
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Speaker 7: Yeah? I mean, I think the execution is just spectacular.

795
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 7: And that's a boring word for people, but it's the

796
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 7: most important word. You know, Execution is how you avoid

797
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 7: third and fourteen, right, because third and fourteen's don't happen

798
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 7: in the NFL. They actually have converted some ridiculous thirdain

799
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 7: lungs this year, to be clear, but generally speaking, you know,

800
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 7: you get those certain lungs you're punting, that's just you're

801
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 7: giving the defense all the cards. Okay, they have been

802
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 7: executing on first down and second down, and so sometimes

803
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 7: they don't even get to third down, and when they do,

804
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 7: it's third and manageable. You get same stiching in third

805
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 7: and three. Well, you might as well just give it

806
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 7: to him because he's gonna have something. He's gonna be

807
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 7: able to dial something up. And so that is I

808
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 7: think then the perfect storm. When you execute early, you

809
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 7: stay out of those thirdin lungs. They are sustaining drives.

810
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 7: Most drives, and disappointingly because somebody gets a penalty or

811
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 7: somebody makes a drop or whatever. Right, that's how most

812
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 7: drives end. Well, they're not doing those things. They generally

813
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 7: are not doing those things, and so their drives are

814
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 7: being sustained and they're scoring more points than everybody else,

815
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 7: which is pretty fundamental right to winning. It's simplistic, but

816
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 7: that's what you're seeing when you execute. This is what

817
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 7: you get. Most teams can execute at this level. I

818
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 7: think it's a it's a credit to the coaching. We

819
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 7: got to give them credit. I mean, they are doing

820
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 7: something pretty remarkable right now.

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Speaker 1: Steven, thanks as always for stopping by. Thanks for doing

822
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: it a little bit early today. We appreciate that and

823
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: we'll talk to you again later this week. All right, guys,

824
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Speaker 1: see you so. Stephenholder ESPN dot Com joining us on

825
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Speaker 1: the Payless Liquors Hotline talking about the Indianapolis Colts. And

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Speaker 1: I know, James, you've been on the beat for a

827
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Speaker 1: couple of years now, but how crazy is it to

828
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Speaker 1: sit in that press box and every time they get

829
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: the football like, Okay, here we go, let's see how

830
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: they get it done this time?

831
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Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much. I have been to go down there

832
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 4: and score a touchdown, not just score points. I feel

833
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 4: like this offense and one offense in the league, you

834
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 4: have to give them that respect.

835
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Speaker 5: At this point.

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Speaker 4: I'm always thinking to myself, Okay, how long do you

837
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 4: wait in the season to accept whatever trends you're seeing?

838
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Speaker 4: And I think when you get through seven weeks, you know,

839
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Speaker 4: then I'm one offense. In the end of you can

840
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 4: definitively say we have a great offense. And one of

841
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Speaker 4: the quotes that I use in my story for a

842
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 4: Sunday's game recap that really stands out to me was

843
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 4: Molly Cox saying that he told rookie Tyler Warren after

844
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 4: Week one, hey, it's not always like this and then

845
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 4: he's like, hey, Rook, it's kind of hard to get

846
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 4: him to believe that when we do this every week,

847
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 4: even I've.

848
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Speaker 5: Had changed my perspective a bit.

849
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 4: So Yeah, to go out there and basically think they're

850
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 4: going to score forty points every game, that's a testament

851
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 4: to one the play calling from Shane, but also the

852
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 4: talent they have on this roster. And it starts, I think,

853
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 4: or it's been amplified by having not just a steady quarterback,

854
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 4: because Daniel Jones has hardly been steady. He's been elite,

855
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Speaker 4: I would say, through the first seven weeks of the season.

856
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Speaker 4: And you know, if you people put him on the

857
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 4: list of top five quarterback, I think you have to

858
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Speaker 4: kind of give him that respect.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to a listener, Brandt his son turning four today,

860
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Speaker 3: Gabriel Massive Colts, Pacers and Notre Dame fan boy. Can

861
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Speaker 3: I get behind that? He's all about the mascots, Blue

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Speaker 3: bloom Boomer of course, some said Bloomer, Indye, leper Kahn

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Speaker 3: and Rowdy mark your favorite mascot Blue Boomer to the

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame leprekhn or Rowdy.

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Speaker 5: Uh have they ever.

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Speaker 3: Touched Rowdy's nose?

867
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: I have not. The girls have, though I have squeaks now. Yeah, yeah,

868
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: I'd say they would vote rowdy. They would say rowdy.

869
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: They've seen him the most. But they like some Boomer,

870
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: They like some blue and all that. They like the

871
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: uh the kazoos or whatever that kazoos, whatever the hell

872
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 2: the things come out the party favors that come out

873
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: of Blues Nose. They like that a lot.

874
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little different than the cold the max bones

875
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 3: been fighting for the last month.

876
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: Freddy Fever run around.

877
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 3: Going back to Stephen Holder that twenty nineteen Colts, I

878
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 3: would agree wholeheartedly. This is much different. It was Survive

879
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 3: in advance. Almost twenty nineteen. Jacoby Brissette was playing. I

880
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 3: just called Jacoby Brissette football. You had the weird like adavianitary,

881
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: like what's left and where is he at? From a

882
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 3: health standpoint? I mean they were winning. They were the

883
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 3: Cardiac cult, so they were winning one score games like

884
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 3: none other. And you know, really Jacoby got hurt against

885
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 3: the Steelers when Cameron Hayward kind of took Quentin Nelson

886
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 3: back into him and that led to Brian Hoyer finishing

887
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 3: that game and then starting the next week lost loss

888
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 3: and then it just kind of unraveled once Jacoby got

889
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 3: back in the line up. I want to say they

890
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 3: lost five of their last six. I don't envision now.

891
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 3: Of course, that quarterback injury did impact some things. I

892
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 3: don't envision that. Like if you told me right now,

893
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 3: like how is the Colts offense going to be stopped soon?

894
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think there's an easy answer. Their

895
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 3: balance is unbelievable right now. I mean, I guess the

896
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 3: NFL always humbles you, and you know, health could derail,

897
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 3: but right now, it's just hard to argue a healthy

898
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 3: Colts offense all of a sudden falling off a cliff,

899
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: given the nature like Moley Cox is on that team, James,

900
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 3: and you know he's saying, you know, hey, we're blowing

901
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 3: teams out now. That's different than what we did in

902
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen.

903
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: Absolutely coming up at a moment, uh the man in

904
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: charge of IU Athletics stops by. Scott Dolson, will spend

905
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: some time with us here on the Fan Morning Show.

906
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 1: It's a Wednesday morning at ninety three five and one

907
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: oh seven to five the Fan, Good morning. As the

908
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 1: sun comes up, we see the rise of Indiana football

909
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: at the same time, and they are sitting there at

910
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: number two in both the AP and Coaches poll in

911
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,479
Speaker 1: college football, and they've got UCLA and another home game

912
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: coming up this weekend, and all things seem to be

913
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: pointing up, the arrows going in the right direction. We

914
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: bring in our next guest to tell us a little

915
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: bit more about how this is all happening and how

916
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: it's being built. Scott Dolson is the athletic director over

917
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: at Indiana University, and he is on the Payleislikers hotline

918
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: this morning. Good morning, Scott, It's got to be fun

919
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: to wake up with just the who's your mentality these days?

920
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 6: Hey, good morning, and yeah, it's definitely been super exciting

921
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 6: and can't wait to get back on the field this

922
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 6: Saturday and keep it rolling.

923
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 3: Scott, I was hoping and appreciate the time, hoping you

924
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 3: can take us back a couple weeks ago to you

925
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 3: walking into Kurtzignetti's office and saying, you know what I

926
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: feel like, now is the time for a contract extension.

927
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 3: How much of that did you view? The win over Oregon?

928
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 3: How much of it did you view? There are some

929
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: openings around college football if you don't mind, could you

930
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 3: walk us through that.

931
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 6: Sure, it really was a you know, kind of a

932
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 6: comprehensive look at our program and all that with May

933
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 6: and then obviously we gave him a contract excension last year,

934
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 6: but give him the start this year kind of where

935
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 6: we are where a college football landscape is. We really

936
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 6: wanted him to feel commitment to him but also commitment

937
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 6: to football. And you know, basically that was our conversation.

938
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 6: And one of the things that was super important to

939
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 6: us as well, is that we didn't want him to

940
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 6: feel that just because he signed a new deal last year.

941
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 6: You know, we know he and his wife and Minette

942
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 6: love it here, the family loves it. We didn't want

943
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 6: him to feel we take him for granted because what

944
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 6: he's doing here is really really special and we feel

945
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 6: like we're just getting started. So all those things were

946
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 6: important to us, and I know he appreciated it, and

947
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 6: it was a great process just like it was last year,

948
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 6: and feel really really comfident and continue to build what

949
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 6: we're building.

950
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 3: You've described him as a unicorn. Could you kind of

951
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 3: expand on that word.

952
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, And really what I meant by that is he's

953
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 6: just obviously he's very unique. You know when we had

954
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 6: the hiring process, we put together a list of all

955
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 6: the qualities and a head coach that we felt would

956
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 6: put us in the best position to have consistent success

957
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 6: with that program. Things like we wanted the existing head coach,

958
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 6: someone who had had won consistently. We wanted someone had

959
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 6: staff continuity, real consistency of staff, where someone was a

960
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 6: quarterback kind of offensive guru. We wanted someone and been

961
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 6: a recruiting coordinator. So all those things are reporting and

962
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 6: coach say, checked every box. But in addition to that,

963
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 6: and why I think he's so special is the first

964
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 6: time I talked to him, he just has this unique personality,

965
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 6: this unique drive focus that when you combine that with

966
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 6: all of his skill set, he is just a what

967
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 6: we felt was a perfect fit for us. But also

968
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 6: you know, we wouldn't trade him for anybody. He just

969
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 6: really I think, highly highly skilled head coach and understands

970
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 6: the business of college football. He just checks every box

971
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 6: and just as you could tell, we absolutely are thrilled

972
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 6: that he's a part of the au family and going

973
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 6: to be for a long long time.

974
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 4: Scott James Boyd here, I'm an Illinois alum, so I

975
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 4: am convinced that IU football is back, baby, because I

976
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 4: saw the fifty three point BT down for a few

977
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 4: weeks ago. But yeah, I was wearing candy striped pants

978
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 4: because of that loss, so I got you know, I

979
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 4: had to had to eat some crow there. But when

980
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 4: you look at you know what this program is able

981
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 4: to do the last two years under coach Signetti, just

982
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 4: two losses, and those two losses were there two teams

983
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:49,919
Speaker 4: competed for national championship last year.

984
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 5: Hast has gone better than even you might have expected.

985
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 6: You know, first of all, James Illinois is a great

986
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 6: program as well, and have a hunt of respect for

987
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 6: their ad Josh Whitman and certainly coach Beliema and things

988
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 6: that they're doing there. We studied Illinois when we we

989
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 6: hired coach sig We looked at programs that we felt

990
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 6: we could compare to, you know, programs around the country.

991
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 6: So we have a lot of respect for Illinois. But

992
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 6: but yeah, we really this has happened. Probably you dream

993
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 6: about stuff like this, but there's no way I would

994
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 6: lose all credibility if I tell you that. I imagine

995
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 6: that we'd be eighteen to two in our first twenty games.

996
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 6: You know, I thought we would you know, continue to improve,

997
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 6: and I thought that we had a chance to be

998
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 6: to be good last year, but now this has been

999
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 6: you know, above and beyond all expectations. Ultimately, this is

1000
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 6: where we wanted to get to. Tool. We're competing nationally

1001
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 6: at a high level. But like I said, if I'd

1002
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 6: have told you, you know, the day of the press

1003
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 6: conference and the day we hired Coach Sig, that we'd

1004
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 6: be eighteen to two, like I said, you would roll

1005
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 6: your eyesens. There's no way you could think that. So yeah,

1006
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 6: but with Coach Sig and just how he works his plan,

1007
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 6: his blueprint, the way he is, you know it really

1008
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 6: and again this is a company line. This sounds like

1009
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 6: it is, but I'll be honest with you, James, we

1010
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 6: feel like you know, it's really a one day at

1011
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 6: a time focus on on the plan. That's where are

1012
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 6: in the department, that's lee coach Sig works. That's where

1013
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 6: I grew up under Coach Knight, honestly working as a

1014
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 6: manager for him. And you know, we don't think, with

1015
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 6: the smartest people in the room, that we've got all

1016
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 6: us figured out. We think we just got a plan.

1017
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 6: We have to really work that plan adjust, adapt, continue

1018
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 6: to try to improve what we can. And you know

1019
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 6: our opponent is now UCLA and that game plan and

1020
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 6: we just got to stick to that.

1021
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 4: So you talk about adjusting and adapting, and you look

1022
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 4: at the Lancale Collge football. These days, you constantly have

1023
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 4: to reto your roster and one of the best ways

1024
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 4: to do that is to transfer a portal. And you

1025
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 4: look at last year's roster, which was a great team.

1026
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 4: In this year's team, with the addition of Fernando Mendoza,

1027
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 4: what has it been like getting him acclimated to the

1028
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 4: IU program. What do you think he's brought to the

1029
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 4: most importantsis in the sport.

1030
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, Fernando has been amazing, first of all off the field,

1031
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 6: and you could probably tell in his interviews he's one

1032
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 6: of the more Uh just I love him. We've had yeah,

1033
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 6: we've had some you know, we have a great kids,

1034
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 6: but we've never had any anyone any better than Fernando.

1035
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 6: He's just a wonderful young man and I so old

1036
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 6: when I say that. He just I really enjoyed my

1037
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 6: lunch with he and Alberto late in the summer and

1038
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 6: it was just it's amazing, like their old friends. I mean,

1039
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 6: he's just great people, great family, So he's been he's

1040
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 6: adjusted really well. But in addition to that, on the field,

1041
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 6: just to fit with Coach Sig, the way coach Szig

1042
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 6: develops quarterbacks, you know, back to when we hired Coach Sig,

1043
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 6: that was a really big important part of the process,

1044
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 6: so that that position, as you said, it's such a

1045
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 6: key position, and you know, his development here I think

1046
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 6: speaks volumes for our program and also speaks volumes for

1047
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 6: the work that he puts in. You know, every day.

1048
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 6: I've heard Coach Sig say that's publicly multiple times that

1049
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 6: he's never been around someone who works at it is

1050
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 6: hard or or no one's ever worked any harder than

1051
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 6: he had. And he continues to extra time. I know

1052
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 6: this summer in June and July, Fernando and Alberta would

1053
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 6: come into the office in the afternoons and watch film

1054
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 6: and continue to just work on the mental side of

1055
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 6: being a quarterback. And those things pay dividends. So we're

1056
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 6: thrilled to have him here, thrill to Alberto here as well,

1057
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 6: and look forward to the future and just watching him develop,

1058
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 6: it's been awesome.

1059
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: He's the athletic director at Indiana University and the architect

1060
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: of helping to build this athletic program into what we're

1061
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: seeing right now. And we'll talk about the new basketball

1062
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 1: coach in a second, but in this day and age

1063
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: of big money and on everything else that goes on,

1064
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: feel that India's positioned well to compete in that environment,

1065
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: being in the Big ten, some terrific alumni and boosters

1066
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: things like that. How would you describe the position that

1067
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 1: IU is in to compete moving forward with the biggest

1068
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: programs in the country.

1069
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 6: You know, it's a it's a it's a it's a

1070
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 6: daily work and progress, the commitment. And I agree with

1071
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 6: you in terms of you know, I think you know,

1072
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 6: you hear this word alignment a lot, and I think

1073
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 6: we're positioned. You know, I could go back to when

1074
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 6: Preig Glass was AD and I was deputy a d

1075
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 6: and he did so much work on our facility end,

1076
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 6: and that helps kind of lead us into this new

1077
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 6: transformational time in college athletics. And President Whitten has been

1078
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 6: massive in terms of when she arrived, and she really

1079
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 6: was committed in our first meeting, you know, she said,

1080
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 6: we need to build a winning football program here and

1081
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 6: to have that support from the top is really really big.

1082
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 6: And then ultimately to put together a vision for how

1083
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 6: to compete in this new world. And you know, with

1084
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 6: hiring coach sig now Darren Debreeze, making certain that we've

1085
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 6: got the infrastructure around him, there's so many unsung heroes

1086
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 6: that we would not be here today in a position

1087
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 6: to compete and go into this game Saturday if it

1088
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 6: weren't for there's a guy named Pete Yakman, and Pete

1089
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 6: behind the scenes is a volunteer for us that has

1090
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 6: helped with our collective and helps really create a vision

1091
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 6: for how we can compete in IL wise in this

1092
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 6: new world. You know, play, we were giving these new

1093
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 6: cards we're dealt how do we play them within the

1094
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 6: rules the best we can? And then certainly our alumni base.

1095
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 6: I can't, I could. I could ramble for an hour

1096
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 6: about the amount of people who and it doesn't matter.

1097
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 6: There's big donors, there's small donors. There's people all across

1098
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 6: the board that have supported us and been gotten behind

1099
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 6: our vision to build our athletic program. And then specifically,

1100
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 6: you know, we're talking about football, but that yeah, like

1101
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 6: I said'm kind of rambling on it, but it's It's

1102
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 6: so meaningful to me, having been here a long time,

1103
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 6: to see our fans step up in the way they do.

1104
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 6: And uh, we couldn't and this isn't the company line either,

1105
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 6: but we couldn't have the success we're having if all

1106
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 6: the things I just listed, including and probably most importantly,

1107
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 6: the fans support the people who've stepped up from an

1108
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 6: nil perspective, we wouldn't be competing and enjoying the the

1109
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 6: fun times that we are without that support.

1110
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 3: The voice of Scott Nelsen again the ady down there

1111
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 3: in Bloomington, as he has said, noon coming up, big

1112
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 3: noon kickoff coming up Saturday against the UCLA basketball team.

1113
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 3: Will be up here in the state Capitol taking on

1114
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 3: Baylor and exhibition game on Sunday. I think you kind

1115
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 3: of were hitting on it there, Scott, But to go

1116
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 3: a little further, I was listening to kurtz Ignaty. I

1117
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 3: forget which interview was a couple of weeks back, but

1118
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 3: he mentioned how, you know, he feels like some donors

1119
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 3: within whatever university athletically have started to now dip their

1120
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 3: toes across the parking lot, if you will, and maybe

1121
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 3: shift or add their contributions towards the football program. How

1122
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 3: have you seen that backing from a financial sense.

1123
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I think it's been it's been fantastic.

1124
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 6: And I think that where you know, I grew up

1125
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 6: working with donors, I've been you know, I was hired

1126
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 6: thirty five years ago to the entry level fundraiser in

1127
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 6: the athletic department. So I kind of feel like I've

1128
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 6: lived in that world. And you know what, what you

1129
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 6: find out is that you know, support and donors who

1130
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 6: step up. They like to believe in and trust in

1131
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 6: the in the process and in the vision that we have.

1132
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 6: You know, if you show them a plan and they

1133
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 6: really believe in that, people will step up. And so certainly,

1134
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 6: as we had a plan for football, we have a

1135
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 6: plan for basketball, as we're working on just our entire

1136
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 6: athletic program. I think that momentum is really you know,

1137
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 6: gaining more and more support. And you know, our alumni

1138
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 6: base is the largest in the country. Is you know,

1139
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 6: just from your show being based on Indianapolis, you guys

1140
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 6: know that, you know, there's EU people everywhere and they

1141
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,479
Speaker 6: just want to have hope and believe in the plan.

1142
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 6: And so again, we would not be here today if

1143
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 6: it weren't for that support. And that's not it's not

1144
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 6: something extra. It's not something that, hey, what would be

1145
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 6: great if we get some extra gifts, we can do

1146
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 6: some different things. Literally, the support has enabled us to

1147
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 6: help build this program, to enable Coach Sig to have

1148
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 6: the resources to compete again with the highest levels with

1149
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 6: the teams around the country that we need to compete with. So, yeah,

1150
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 6: it's been really exciting and I can't make our fans

1151
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 6: our support is enough for joining us on this mission

1152
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 6: to make certain that we can compete at highest levels

1153
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 6: a year in, year.

1154
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 3: Out, Scott, last one for me, and we certainly appreciate

1155
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 3: your time during a busy fall calendar transition short of

1156
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 3: the winter season. But you know, revenue share and how

1157
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 3: athletic departments and universities will divide that up has been

1158
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 3: a huge topic across the landscape of college sports. For

1159
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 3: you guys, football, men's basketball, How do you view how

1160
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 3: that will be divvied up from a revenue share?

1161
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, what we do, and we're really consistent with the

1162
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 6: way other schools, particularly in our league. You know, we

1163
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 6: can't really because of we can't compare each other's numbers

1164
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 6: because of the anti trust violation. But basically I kind

1165
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 6: of have a feel for how everyone is doing it,

1166
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 6: not just in the big intend around the country, and

1167
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 6: we follow the revenue generated in the support in the

1168
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 6: sport and then and then also try to figure out

1169
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 6: what is the marketplace out there. So we're following that, uh,

1170
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 6: you know, kind of consistent and it doesn't take a

1171
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 6: rocket scientist to figure out that football is number one

1172
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 6: certainly in that in that distribution, and men's basketball and

1173
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 6: certainly women's basketball following that, and then we sprinkled around

1174
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 6: in other areas as well. But again, to compete, you

1175
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 6: have to make certain you know what the marketplace is

1176
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 6: in the ability knowing that you just you hear different things.

1177
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 6: You don't know exactly always what to believe and what

1178
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 6: you hear what's out there in the market. But but

1179
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 6: I feel like we're doing everything we can. Back to

1180
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 6: what I said earlier about the support you receive, you

1181
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 6: know with us yours, Cannects, pet Young and then people

1182
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 6: supported our nil first. You know, it's all about being

1183
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 6: able to compete in the marketplace. And and I will

1184
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 6: add one of the things I think it's it's really

1185
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 6: important that you know it. Certainly money talks and you

1186
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 6: have to have the resources to compete. But at the

1187
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 6: same time, both coach Sig Darren Terry Moore, you know,

1188
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 6: we want to make certain that the student athletes that

1189
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 6: we're bringing in and understand the balance that they are student,

1190
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 6: they still in a class, they still want to develop

1191
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 6: in every way. And again that sounds like I have

1192
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 6: to say that as a company line, but I really

1193
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 6: mean that in the locker room is really important. And

1194
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 6: just like Fernando Windows that we talked about, you know,

1195
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 6: we want kids that represent OURU and that certainly can

1196
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 6: maximize their nil revs share all that. You know, we're

1197
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 6: all in on that, but at the same time they're

1198
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 6: developing as a person and we're really proud of our

1199
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 6: coaches recruit as well in that area.

1200
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you what, Scott again, as the Illinois

1201
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 4: alum on the show, if you know, you ever want

1202
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 4: to mess up the recruiting a little bit and some

1203
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 4: some of those guys over to Illinois, I'll be gladly appreciated.

1204
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 4: But on the more serious no, the last thing I

1205
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 4: have for you before we let you go basketball. We

1206
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 4: know are you fans, and like most fan bases, you're

1207
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 4: gonna be greedy. You know, football's back, they're Roland. We're

1208
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 4: now we're looking at men's basketball. Credits to the women's

1209
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 4: program for being great last few years as well, but

1210
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 4: men's basketball, why was daring to reize the right choice?

1211
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,919
Speaker 4: And what do you expect from him in that unit

1212
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 4: in year one? Owing the rich history that you have

1213
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 4: you all have in men's basketball.

1214
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, Darren, it's you know, very similar to the coach

1215
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 6: Signette hiring in terms of, you know, check the boxes

1216
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 6: of the key areas that we were looking for. Uh,

1217
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 6: you know, we wanted someone that had, uh, you know,

1218
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 6: modern offense that that young men want to play in,

1219
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 6: and you look how college basketball is developing. We wanted

1220
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 6: to make certain they had that. But at the same time,

1221
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 6: we want a head coach that had really old school

1222
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 6: Indiana defense, plays super hard and just drew it, just

1223
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 6: really compete. And then in addition to that, you know, Darren,

1224
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,479
Speaker 6: we wanted to we look at the person in terms

1225
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 6: of we want him to certainly fit in one of

1226
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 6: the head coach that really had the personality that really

1227
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 6: would be embraced uh here with our fan base and

1228
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 6: with our community. And Darren checked again, like coaching checked

1229
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 6: every box, not only from a coaching standpoint, but just

1230
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 6: the way he fits with us and really excited about

1231
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 6: him and in terms of X dictations, you know, just

1232
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 6: really want our fan base to just see it and

1233
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 6: understand that that's what Indiana basketball is all about, the

1234
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:12,479
Speaker 6: way we play. And that sounds it's easy to say,

1235
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 6: but it's kind of it's kind of hard to explain.

1236
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 6: But I really want our fans as we come out

1237
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 6: on the court, and I think you could already feel

1238
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 6: it last week and our exhibition and gets marrying that

1239
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 6: our fans trust the process and see that that we

1240
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 6: play super hard, intense, love our effort, our defense, love

1241
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 6: our shooting because we've grown up with shooters in the

1242
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 6: state of Indiana, and just really proud of our program

1243
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 6: and have a lot of hope for the future. And

1244
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 6: I'm confident that that'll happen.

1245
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: Last thing for me, Scott. You know, it's not just

1246
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: football and men's basketball, but things are rolling down there.

1247
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: I know that people are excited about the volleyball team

1248
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: this year. Women's basketball is always playing well. I found

1249
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: myself a true story, found myself watching Indiana Wisconsin soccer

1250
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: for a few minutes last night, and I think the

1251
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: Hoosias we're beating up on like forward to nothing at

1252
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: the time. What how what's your overall feeling about the

1253
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: health of the athletic department in general right now?

1254
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 6: Yeah? I feel really I feel great. You know, I

1255
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 6: feel like we've got a great slat slate of coaches

1256
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 6: that are really across the board, you know, competing and

1257
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 6: developing our young men and young women. You know, I

1258
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 6: feel like, you know, we talk about winning a lot

1259
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 6: in our department, and uh, we embrace that and talk

1260
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 6: about the process of winning across the board, not just

1261
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 6: with football and how students basketball, but you know, it

1262
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 6: could go on and on with you know, our swimming

1263
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 6: program is kind of that hidden gym in some ways

1264
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 6: that you know, we can compete. Last year we finished

1265
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 6: third in the country and the men and fourth and

1266
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 6: the women, and I think we've got a chance to

1267
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 6: keep going from there. And when we talk about winning,

1268
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 6: it's not just because it's pretty good of old IU,

1269
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 6: which it is, but we really feel like if we

1270
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 6: want to maximize the experience for our student athletes in

1271
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 6: every way, winning is a big, big part of that.

1272
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 6: And in the mo we talk about it more the

1273
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 6: more I think our studantics field. That's part of our

1274
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 6: culture that we you know, we play to win, and

1275
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,439
Speaker 6: it's okay to say that. And as we do exit

1276
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 6: interviews with our student athletes, this isn't a revelation. But

1277
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 6: the student athletes have had a chance to compete for

1278
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 6: big games and win championships or be able to really

1279
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 6: compete at a high level, their experience is so much better.

1280
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 6: So winning is a big part of our culture and

1281
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 6: something that you know. I'm not a big I'm talking

1282
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 6: a lot on this show. It's early in the morning,

1283
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 6: had the late night after the big chen ad meeting,

1284
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 6: did last two days, but it really we just want

1285
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 6: to do the work and it's a process. So I

1286
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 6: don't like to over I like to under promise and

1287
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 6: over deliver. I don't like to be a big talker,

1288
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 6: but we really winning is super important to us for

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Speaker 6: our student athletes.

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Speaker 1: Scott, thanks for your time today. We appreciate the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to have a chat with you. Continued success throughout the

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Speaker 1: rest of the school year and we'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: again soon.

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Speaker 6: Appreciate it. Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Scott. It is always good to talk to

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Speaker 1: Scott Dolson athletic director down at Indiana, but that whole

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Speaker 1: program seems to be in a good spot.

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Speaker 3: Kevin, Yeah, I mean volleyball, like you said, Jeff, haveing

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Speaker 3: an historic season for where they are used to certainly

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Speaker 3: over the last decade, and a loaded Big Ten conference.

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Speaker 3: Big Ten volleyball is you know whatever SEC football when

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Speaker 3: it comes to that. But it's just a We've said

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Speaker 3: it in some way, shape or form over the last

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Speaker 3: x amount of weeks. But you know, you show it

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Speaker 3: from Mars after an eighteen month stay and you say, hey,

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Speaker 3: the IU football teams are a number two in the

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Speaker 3: nation and the EU basketball team is picked to finish

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Speaker 3: tenth in the Big Ten. I know, it's like, wait,

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Speaker 3: what did you say that correctly? But that's where they're

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Speaker 3: at right now. I mean, it's it's astonishing. And football

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Speaker 3: just does so much, not for you athletic program. No, no, no,

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Speaker 3: football does so much for university.

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Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, I mean even him saying like, oh, we

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Speaker 4: studied Illinois and I'm not saying this is a troll job.

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Speaker 4: Illinois football was terrible when I was a school, and

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Speaker 4: then the job that they've done has been pretty good.

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Speaker 4: And you look at Itu and it's like they're not

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Speaker 4: even the same class. And when it comes to the rebrand,

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Speaker 4: the rebuild, and so hats off to what he's done

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Speaker 4: and obviously striking goal with Colt Signetti.

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Speaker 3: And you look at Kurtzignetty's contract. I mean, I know

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Speaker 3: some of the numbers came out yesterday and just the

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Speaker 3: amount of control that Signetti hass. Yes, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: your football coach is more important than Pam Whitten. Frankly,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I I know it sounds a bit crazy

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Speaker 3: to say that's how it works, man, that's in the

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Speaker 3: big ten the SEC. Certainly that's how it works. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm sat a massive favorite in this one. Gus Johnson

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Speaker 3: company on the call, and you'll have the big noon

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Speaker 3: kickoff crew there, Mark, are we trying to vet somebody

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Speaker 3: from that big noon kickoff crew trying to not working?

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Speaker 3: So you seem to have had struggle for in the past.

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Speaker 3: You're efforting I love love me some Brady Quinn.

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Speaker 2: No, I know you do, our hero.

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Speaker 3: I think I speak for the opposite sex potentially listening

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Speaker 3: to us as well. Who stepped in when Mark Sanchez

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Speaker 3: that isna It's one more for Notre Dame over USC is.

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Speaker 5: One way to put it all right.

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Speaker 1: Coming up in a minute, we'll talk more college full

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Speaker 1: of Pat forty stopping by and we'll get his thoughts

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Speaker 1: on Indiana football and how things are going and the

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Speaker 1: rest of the college landscape as well. In the meantime, Mark,

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Speaker 1: let's check it down the.

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Speaker 9: Morning checkdown on ninety sweet five and one oh seven

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Speaker 9: five the fan coach back to work today.

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Speaker 1: As they get ready for a Sunday afternoon game against

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Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. Four twenty five is first kickoff there.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, they as always on Tuesday working out

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Speaker 1: a few folks over at West fifty six to anybody

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Speaker 1: stick yesterday for the guys that drop by.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Illinois, speaking of him, James, you know a little

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Speaker 3: bit about Seth Coleman.

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 4: I do actually cover him briefly when I was covering you,

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Illinois athletics a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 5: So he's the one.

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Speaker 4: I think it was like a sixth year you know,

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Speaker 4: college player, pretty freakish athlete, kind of raw a football.

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Speaker 4: So I would imagine that the Colts just liked a

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Speaker 4: lot of his you know, just physical athletic traits and

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Speaker 4: then seeing where we can go from there.

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Speaker 3: And again right now, what's the health at defensive end

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Speaker 3: Samson Ebacom the knee injury Taekwon Lewis groin. It could

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Speaker 3: be a big day on Sunday for J. T. Tumaliau

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Speaker 3: as yay for sure, rookie rising up the depth charts.

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Speaker 3: So it's needed with that group right now in my opinion,

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Speaker 3: underperforming all right.

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Speaker 1: Sandiana Pacers open there twenty five, twenty six NBA season

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night at the Fieldhouse against the Oklahoma City Thunder

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Speaker 1: six thirty start time on the fan here for the pregame,

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Speaker 1: and then of course we have the tip just after

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Speaker 1: seven o'clock with the one and only Mark Boyle. Last night,

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Speaker 1: the NBA got started with the pair of games Oklahoma City.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of them, they beat the Houston Rockets, won twenty

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Speaker 1: five one twenty four. They raised their banner. Then they

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Speaker 1: had double overtime and SGA not only tied the game

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Speaker 1: at the end of regulation, but won the game with

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Speaker 1: a couple of free throws in the second overtime. Ironically,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant fouled him on that play, the sixth fouling.

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Speaker 1: He fouled out and he was booed mercilessly by those

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma City fans last night.

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Speaker 4: James, Yeah, that's hilarious to me. He is one of

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Speaker 4: the player in their franchise's history.

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Speaker 2: Thick.

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Speaker 4: They should retire his number at some point, but that

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Speaker 4: day wasn't yesterday, so I enjoyed the booing and shouts KD.

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Speaker 5: He bowed back before the game, so respect.

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Speaker 2: I'd sign up for seven more of Rockets Thunder Western

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Speaker 2: Conference Finals in May.

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Speaker 5: Give me some of that, yeah, I would agree.

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Speaker 1: How about some round ball rock and NBC give me

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Speaker 1: the NBA back last I'll take it all. Sounded pretty good,

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Speaker 1: the stuff that's urdon though, they just gonna like interview

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Speaker 1: him a couple of times during the season. What's what's

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Speaker 1: his role going to be?

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Speaker 3: I'd be fine with that. I enjoyed it. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: you know, hopefully, you know it'll expand, but I I

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Speaker 3: enjoyed the clips from Mike Turco and obviously Michael Jordan

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Speaker 3: last night. By the way, shout out to a couple

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Speaker 3: of local names. Brooks Barnheiser not a ton of minutes

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Speaker 3: off the bench for OKC, but he did get in there.

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Speaker 3: Early and Jake Laaravia in that second game, I totally

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Speaker 3: forgot he was on the Lakers. He played Tray Jackson.

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Speaker 3: Davis did not coach's decision play.

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Speaker 5: For Lawrence Central.

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Speaker 1: Bear.

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Speaker 3: Yes, saw on a great, great Laurence Central team. I

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Speaker 3: think they ran into COVID if I'm not mistaken there.

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Speaker 3: But he had a handful of points off the bench

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Speaker 3: last night.

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Speaker 1: Really see Golden State beat the Lakers one nineteen one

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Speaker 1: oh nine very late last night. Jimmy Butler had thirty

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Speaker 1: one Steph Curry twenty three in the win. Luka donc

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Speaker 1: has had forty three points and twelve rebounds last night

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Speaker 1: in the loss Golden State. With the renewed Jimmy Butler,

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Speaker 1: that could be a bit of a problem as the

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Speaker 1: year goes along. James, We'll see how that all works out.

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Speaker 1: We'll see, We'll see how that goes on. Meanwhile, they

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Speaker 1: will be running some indicar again over in speedway today, correct,

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Speaker 1: just testing things out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think a huge amount of activity, but yes,

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Speaker 3: sounds like a couple of cars on the track over

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Speaker 3: there for a late fall testing.

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Speaker 1: All right, college football, are you hosting UCLA on Saturday?

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to paut Forty about that coming up in

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Speaker 1: just a moment. Also, Rutgers plays up at Ross eight

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Speaker 1: against Purdue. That one also starts at noon, so both

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Speaker 1: Purdue and Indiana have noon kickoffs this coming weekend. Anything

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Speaker 1: else you boys want to throw in before we'll see.

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Speaker 3: Who the starting quarterback is for Predue this week. And

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Speaker 3: Ryan Brown got hurt shoulder injury. If not, looks like

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Speaker 3: Malchi single ten, who was decently highly ranked recruit there

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Speaker 3: at Arkansas, came with Barry Odom over there, so that'll

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Speaker 3: be something to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk college football with Pat Forty, a

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Speaker 1: Sports illustrated in a moment. You are listening to ninety

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Speaker 1: three five and one oh seven five The Fan, as

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Speaker 1: you are listening.

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Speaker 9: To the Fan Morning show on ninety three five and

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Speaker 9: one oh seven five The Fan.

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Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday. Thanks for listening to us. However you may

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Speaker 1: be choosing to listen this morning. We'll get to all

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Speaker 1: that coming up in a minute. Had a terrific conversation

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Speaker 1: with IU athletic director Scott Dolson just a moment ago,

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Speaker 1: and we talk more to college football right now, because

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Speaker 1: why not you got the number two ranked team in

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Speaker 1: the country, both in the AP Pole and the Coach's Poll.

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Speaker 1: With the Hoosiers. Pat Forty is always fun to read.

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Speaker 1: He's always informational, he's always insightful. He writes at Sports

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Speaker 1: Illustrated and he joins us now in the Payless Lickers

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Speaker 1: hot Line. Good morning, in the middle of the college

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Speaker 1: football season, Pat Forty, it's got to be heaven for

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Speaker 1: you right now.

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Speaker 8: All we're ripping and running good times. Yes, sir, happy

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Speaker 8: to be on with you.

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Speaker 1: Well, happy to have you. Were talking to Scott Dolson

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Speaker 1: just a moment ago from IU, and we're talking about

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Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti and what he's done and the brand new contract.

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting. I'd seen one of your most recent

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Speaker 1: columns was about what's Penn State going to do as

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Speaker 1: they try to replace James Franklin, And I thought it

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Speaker 1: was interesting that in this ear and how we're firing

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Speaker 1: coaches five or six games into the season, that IU

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Speaker 1: was very proactive in making sure that they didn't let

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Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti get away. Were you surprised at all that

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Speaker 1: it took them about three days to figure that out?

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Speaker 8: That was really fast. I mean, that was impressive. I

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Speaker 8: will say I think several elements go into play there. One,

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Speaker 8: you could kind of see the Franklin thing coming for

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Speaker 8: a couple of weeks, is that very rapidly fell apart.

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Speaker 8: And secondly, you know Scott Dolson and his people, they're

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Speaker 8: not stupid. They know they have the hottest coach in

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Speaker 8: the country and the best coach in the country right now,

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Speaker 8: and you know, we've gotten to do what we got

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Speaker 8: to do to step up there. I think from the

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Speaker 8: minute they crushed Illinois, it was like, Okay, people are

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Speaker 8: going to start coming after him even more than they

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Speaker 8: did last year's Let's be ready when that time comes.

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Speaker 8: And the second element of that is a Indiana has

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Speaker 8: something to sell now and be you got a coach

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Speaker 8: who wants to be there.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 8: I think Signetti was genuinely appreciative of the fact that

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Speaker 8: at sixty two, after winning relentlessly for a decade or more,

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Speaker 8: Indiana stepped up and did and took him, you know,

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Speaker 8: and gave him that shot that he'd wanted to have,

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Speaker 8: that he knew he could capitalize on. And so I

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Speaker 8: was like, yeah, you know what, this has been a

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Speaker 8: good relationship. You took a chance on me. I took

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Speaker 8: a chance on you, let's keep it going.

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Speaker 1: Pat.

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Speaker 3: You you live close enough to Bloomington and certainly have

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Speaker 3: followed the program I guess from Afar, but not that

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Speaker 3: far away for years. So I think you could maybe

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Speaker 3: speak to this. When Kurtzignetti said last year, you know,

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Speaker 3: before the Ohio State game, we you know, I feel

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Speaker 3: like I'm at an emerging superpower in college football. I

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Speaker 3: think a lot of people just laughed at that statement.

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Speaker 3: But given the landscape of college football, is he kind

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Speaker 3: of right of like, you know, the alumni base and

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Speaker 3: the big ten arms race, and you know the potential

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01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 3: that's there from you know, what donors could do if

1503
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:21,759
Speaker 3: they go across the parking lot from basketball to football.

1504
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 3: You know, is there a little bit of truth to that?

1505
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 6: Well?

1506
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,600
Speaker 8: Sure, I would say this. I would say everyone is

1507
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 8: an emerging superpower in this era. The that seriously you

1508
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 8: you threw, sure you throw a get Did TCU play

1509
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,600
Speaker 8: for a national championship a couple of years ago? Was

1510
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 8: that SMU in the playoff last year? Yeah? Yeah, I

1511
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 8: think so. But uh, you you throw together enough money

1512
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 8: and you get the right coach and you get the

1513
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 8: right group of players, you can have a run. Now

1514
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 8: what is a run one year, two years. I don't know, uh,

1515
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 8: But could Indiana sustain it? Theoretically yes, and and the

1516
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 8: reasons he mentioned are certainly important. Big ten membership helps.

1517
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 8: It helps to be in the Big ten of the

1518
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:14,839
Speaker 8: SEC more than the SEC or ACC or Big twelve.

1519
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 8: And then a massive alumni base helps. And if you

1520
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 8: get the manergize, which we've seen, and I mean you

1521
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 8: guys have been around you know this. I've been going

1522
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 8: to the Indiana Games for thirty five years. The level

1523
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 8: of apathy was incredible. But it's one of those things

1524
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 8: where you just give them something and that can turn

1525
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 8: around in a hurry, and you got all this pent

1526
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 8: up excitement and probably pent up donor money that now

1527
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 8: can be activated and put to use. The only thing

1528
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 8: Indiana doesn't have, and it's less important than it used

1529
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 8: to be, is sitting in like Georgia, Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania.

1530
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 8: There's good players in the state of Indiana, but there's

1531
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 8: not the same number, but that matters less now in

1532
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,719
Speaker 8: a portal era, and when players are much more mobile

1533
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,719
Speaker 8: and less hesitant to go far away from home.

1534
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 4: Pat forty again joining us here on the Pailska's Hot Line,

1535
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 4: the senior writer at Sports Illustrated, Pat talked about transportal

1536
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 4: just there recently. But when you look at what friend

1537
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 4: of Mendoz is able to do at that quarterback position,

1538
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,640
Speaker 4: what has been your impression of what he's brought to

1539
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,719
Speaker 4: this program considering that last year they had a good,

1540
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 4: really good college quarterback in Curtis Rourke, and then now

1541
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 4: I feel like they've upgraded.

1542
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 8: Oh, They're definitely upgraded. Mendoz is fantastic. I think the

1543
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 8: NFL has to be very interested in him. He's got size,

1544
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 8: he's got intelligence, he's got an arm, he's quick and

1545
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 8: decisive for the most part, and he's really accurate. You know,

1546
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 8: probably needs to show a little more downfield for them,

1547
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:57,679
Speaker 8: But from a college standpoint, he's outstanding. And I think

1548
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 8: he's been put into a great offen with really good receivers,

1549
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 8: by the way, who don't drop anything. I mean every

1550
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 8: time I see them, they catch all the passes, even

1551
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 8: the hard ones. So it's a great setup in a

1552
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 8: great situation. I saw Mendoza last year at CAL and

1553
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 8: really liked him and thought Indiana was getting an upgrade.

1554
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 8: Curtis Rourke was good last year, but in the games

1555
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 8: that it really mattered against the high level opponents. I

1556
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 8: thought he was sometimes indecisive, sometimes confused, that the line

1557
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 8: of scrimmage, didn't see blitzes and wasn't mobile. And I

1558
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 8: think those are things that Mendoze is better at all

1559
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 8: of those and has a stronger arm. So he's phenomenal

1560
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 8: and he's right there at the top of the Heisman race.

1561
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 1: Pat Forty joining us here on the Paylost Liquors Hotline

1562
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,679
Speaker 1: this morning. Nice of him to stop by. I'll ask

1563
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 1: this question. We have a resident fan here, but I'm

1564
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 1: also interested in the program and a lot of fans

1565
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 1: here in Indianapolis. But after a slow start, here comes

1566
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman in Notre Dame. How good can they be?

1567
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,640
Speaker 8: Yeah? I think that's one of those teams that the

1568
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 8: rest of the country better not let into the playoffs

1569
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 8: because they may do what they did last year. You know,

1570
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 8: the start, they lost to very good teams, and they

1571
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 8: lost one game by three points, in one game by

1572
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 8: one point when they dropped an extra point snap. The

1573
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 8: defense wasn't very good at the beginning of the year.

1574
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:22,719
Speaker 8: It still has some issues, but it's getting better and

1575
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 8: the offense is outstanding. I mean Jeremiah Love and Jadarian Preiser,

1576
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 8: elite running backs. CJ. Cars played extremely well a quarterback.

1577
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:36,600
Speaker 8: They've got some line injuries that are a bit problematic,

1578
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 8: but you know, I look at them and I look

1579
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 8: at their schedule, and if they get to ten and two,

1580
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 8: we'll see what the competition is. The lay of the land.

1581
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 8: You know, if you're a Notre Dame or a Notre

1582
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 8: Dame pan, you got to be heartened watching the losses

1583
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 8: start to pile up elsewhere. And that's probably going to

1584
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 8: continue for the next five or six weeks, and the

1585
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 8: more teams lose, the better you're ten and two will look.

1586
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 8: Now they I think need like USC to finish well,

1587
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 8: Navy to keep going, Pittsburgh to keep going, so that

1588
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,600
Speaker 8: those games mean something and it's not just well we

1589
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 8: lost to two good teams. You got to have some

1590
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 8: good wins on the resume too.

1591
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 3: Pat, last one for me, we really appreciate your time

1592
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 3: in a busy season. I was fortunate to be at

1593
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 3: that Notre Dame Indiana playoff game last year. I think

1594
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 3: the on campus atmosphere is just absolutely through the roof.

1595
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 3: Do you think we ever get a point assuming the

1596
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 3: playoff sticks to the current format, which probably not. Do

1597
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,560
Speaker 3: you think we get to a point where the quarterfinal

1598
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 3: games would be on campus sites, the top four seeds

1599
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 3: would get a chance to host.

1600
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 8: I sure hope, so, you know, and I think as anticipated,

1601
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 8: a lot of those kind of schools looked last year

1602
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 8: and said we want some of that. We want that

1603
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 8: home game and that the home field advantage and the

1604
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 8: home atmosphere and everything that that brought. I mean at

1605
01:15:56,080 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 8: Notre Dame, at Texas, at in State and even in

1606
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 8: Ohio State when half the fans wanted to mute me.

1607
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 8: I was there at that game. That was still a

1608
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 8: very raucous environment. So you know, I think it's good

1609
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 8: for the sport. The problem is, you know that it

1610
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,640
Speaker 8: has been tied to the hip with the bowl industry forever,

1611
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 8: and undoing that tie is difficult. But I think especially look,

1612
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 8: if the playoff gets bigger, which I think, you know,

1613
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 8: if it gets bigger than sixteen, they've screwed it up,

1614
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:34,719
Speaker 8: which is entirely possible. But the more games you play,

1615
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 8: the more expensive it is. Why not play some of

1616
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 8: those games at home and then keep your fans from

1617
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:43,640
Speaker 8: having to try to travel to four different postseason games.

1618
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 1: Pat great stuff. Always appreciate talking you. Thanks for getting

1619
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 1: up early this morning and being with us. Safe travels man.

1620
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon.

1621
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 8: Okay, my pleasure. Guys, Thank you you bet.

1622
01:16:54,800 --> 01:17:00,040
Speaker 1: Pat forty from Sports Illustrated in It's just it's amazing

1623
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 1: that we sit here and we talked to national sports

1624
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 1: writers all the time now about Indiana and it's like, yeah,

1625
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 1: they're they're here, They're for real. Kurtseyinnatty, he said, did

1626
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 1: you hear him? He said, might be the best coach

1627
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 1: in college football right now.

1628
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 3: We had Scott Olsen the ady on for what eighteen minutes,

1629
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 3: and we talked about football for sixteen of it.

1630
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:18,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, which is insane.

1631
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 2: I mean, because IU basketball is in some like random program.

1632
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 3: What a time to be alive. But that question that,

1633
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 3: as Pat a you know, that's as wild as it sounds.

1634
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 3: IU football fans might have to experience that them getting

1635
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 3: the top four seed, even with a loss to Ohio State.

1636
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 3: I think if they make it undefeated to Ohio State

1637
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 3: in the Big Ten title game, I don't think a

1638
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 3: loss should knock them out of the top four. You

1639
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 3: wouldn't get a home game. I selfishly, I hate that.

1640
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:46,719
Speaker 3: I mean I think you guys know, I'm a huge

1641
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 3: fan of these on campus sporting event ATMOSPH.

1642
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 5: I think that's an idea a lot of people can

1643
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 5: get behind.

1644
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 3: Though the non conference schedule brought up a lot like

1645
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 3: I think it's really cool when you get these marquee

1646
01:17:56,200 --> 01:18:00,759
Speaker 3: games on campus. That would be a bummers that sounds

1647
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 3: for Indiana football not to experience that. Again. I know

1648
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 3: there's benefits. You obviously only play three games instead of

1649
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,719
Speaker 3: four to win a national title, but I think having

1650
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 3: that in your own stadium, you think about all the

1651
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 3: memories you've had of a Tailgator probably not staying for

1652
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 3: all four quarters and to experience out I think would

1653
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 3: be unreal.

1654
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 1: Can you imagine looking through the eyes of Don Fisher

1655
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 1: right before kickoff for a home playoff game at Bloomington?

1656
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 5: That will be quite the job. I mean, he's got

1657
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 5: to be living a dream.

1658
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,640
Speaker 1: Yes man, All right, quick time out coming up in

1659
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 1: a moment. Talk talk talk, that's what people do. They're

1660
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 1: talking about Indiana football. They're also talking a lot about

1661
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:40,480
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis coltson one player on the Colts in particular,

1662
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 1: Let's hear what some people are saying next to ninety

1663
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 1: three five and one O seven to five fan, Good morning,

1664
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: Welcome into a Wednesday. Kevin Bowen, James Boyd, I'm jeff Rickard, Mark,

1665
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 1: Dighton Dyton getting it done over there on the ones

1666
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 1: and twos. And I don't know if you heard right

1667
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 1: before we came back in our voice Jim Cutler talking

1668
01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 1: about the fact and Don Cutler's wife, who's also one

1669
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 1: of our voices, talking about the fact that the Colts

1670
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 1: will be heard. The game itself will be on Hank

1671
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: this coming weekend, the country music station ninety seven point

1672
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 1: one because we've got pacers during the fourth quarter, So

1673
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 1: the pacers will start during the fourth quarter of that game,

1674
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 1: so we'll be able to you always hear the games,

1675
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 1: they're always on both stations, but the game itself will

1676
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 1: be over on Hank this Sunday. We will still have

1677
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 1: all the pre game for you, and John will be

1678
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 1: live from Bullseye coming your way at noon, and then

1679
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 1: we'll have the three hour pre game leading right up

1680
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 1: until the four twenty five kick. But I just want

1681
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:37,640
Speaker 1: to make sure everybody understands that we'll talk about that

1682
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: a lot throughout the rest of the week. But speaking

1683
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 1: of the Colts, people are having this discussion now all

1684
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,719
Speaker 1: over the country about is this the real Daniel Jones?

1685
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 1: We talk about this is Daniel Jones the guy you're

1686
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 1: seeing right now operating at a high level in the

1687
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 1: middle of a great offense and then a great play

1688
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 1: caller in Shane Stikeen, or at some point is there

1689
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 1: going to be a regression to the Daniel Jones we

1690
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 1: saw the last couple of years with the New York Giants.

1691
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 1: People are talking about that all over the place. Rich Gannon,

1692
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:07,640
Speaker 1: a former League MVP who works at Sirius XM, was

1693
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 1: talking about what he sees from a quarterback perspective and

1694
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 1: what Daniel Jones is doing right now.

1695
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 10: I think Daniel Jones Bruce is playing like that. He's

1696
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 10: playing with confidence. I think he's got a coach that

1697
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 10: believes in him, a football team that has been supportive

1698
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 10: and believes they can win with him, and he's just

1699
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 10: playing with great confidence right now. And I think you

1700
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 10: mentioned the numbers. I mean, you know, he's taking care

1701
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 10: of the ball, he's making good decisions, He's putting his

1702
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 10: team in the position to have.

1703
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 1: A chance to win.

1704
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 10: The running the ball well to play action game has

1705
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 10: been very effective they've been good on third down, they've

1706
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 10: been good down in the scoring zone. There's a reason

1707
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 10: why they lead the National Football League in scoring. So yeah,

1708
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 10: I think it's kind of like Kevin O'Connell last year

1709
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 10: with Sam Darnold. We talked about the quarterback whisper and everything.

1710
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 10: You got Shane stich And as the head coach, he's

1711
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:52,600
Speaker 10: the play caller. He's done a great job with this

1712
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 10: young quarterback or this I should say young quarterback, but

1713
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 10: this middle aged quarterback. And I just think we're seeing

1714
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 10: a different Daniel, a different verse version of Daniel Jones,

1715
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 10: something we didn't get a chance to see in New

1716
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 10: York very often. You know, at some point, you're the agent.

1717
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 10: You got to sit down, at some point you're the team.

1718
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 10: You got to say to yourself, Hey, you know, as

1719
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 10: soon as as soon as we start this conversation that

1720
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 10: the less expensive it's going to be to get a

1721
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 10: long term term deal done with Daniel Jones.

1722
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 1: I think I've seen enough.

1723
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 10: I've seen enough personally through seven weeks that this kid

1724
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 10: is I think is the right guy for the Colts

1725
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 10: right now.

1726
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 1: How about that somebody who's played the position was an MVP.

1727
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 1: Looking at Daniel Jones and saying Colts have their guy.

1728
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:37,600
Speaker 4: Well, he's middle aged, my biggest at the end, I know,

1729
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 4: twenty eight year old, middle aged kid.

1730
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's.

1731
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 1: The reality of life as a quarterback. I mean, if

1732
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 1: he's the guy, this could be the guy the Colts

1733
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 1: have for the next decade.

1734
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1735
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 3: I mean, it's the fact that you say that and

1736
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 3: I don't laugh at that is just kind of wild.

1737
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:00,080
Speaker 3: And I'm picturing my brain on August twenty second, make

1738
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 3: sureing you saying that here on October twenty second. And

1739
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:06,680
Speaker 3: then we get into debates on what's best financially Is

1740
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 3: it the franchise tag? Is it, you know, a longer

1741
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 3: term deal. Does Alec Pierce get the franchise tag? I mean,

1742
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 3: all of these debates, you know, obviously on the back

1743
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 3: burner for a while. I know there are some contract

1744
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 3: stipulations and complications that you know, could withhold maybe an

1745
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 3: extension happening during the season itself, but it's hard to

1746
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 3: imagine a regression. I get the NFL as the king

1747
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 3: of professional sports leagues, of that that humbles you, I

1748
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 3: mean more than any other league. It is the league

1749
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 3: that humbles you. But I just it's hard for me

1750
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 3: to see it right now. It seems like the perfect marriage.

1751
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 3: It seems like just two football nerds Monday through Saturday

1752
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 3: obsessing over football to the nth degree, and then on

1753
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 3: Sunday they play chess and the opponent plays checkers.

1754
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 1: It's been fun to watch, and he talked about at

1755
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 1: the beginning. Rich Cannon did too, whether it's play action,

1756
01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 1: whether it's they're doing this or doing that, And I go,

1757
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 1: it's not just Daniel Jones, it's not just Jonathan Taylor.

1758
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 1: It's not having a really terrific group of receivers. I think.

1759
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: I don't think you can understate the addition of this

1760
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 1: tight end, Tyler Warren and the different looks and opportunities

1761
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 1: he gives the offense and the problems that that all

1762
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 1: causes defenses, and where do we line up? Who do

1763
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: we need to worry about right here? What's coming next?

1764
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I think Tyler Warren is having an all Pro

1765
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 4: season so far. I think he's been the best tight

1766
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 4: end in football. So I don't see that lightly. I

1767
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 4: know it's early ish in the season, just seven games in,

1768
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 4: but that's the trajectory that he's on so far. And

1769
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 4: then I think we're talking about this. I want to

1770
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 4: say it might have been Kevin or somebody else in

1771
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,879
Speaker 4: the media room last week, just how many people aren't

1772
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 4: in contention for certain awards already? You know, JT MVP

1773
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 4: slash Offensive Player of the Year saying thing for Daniel

1774
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 4: Jones shame stikeen Coach of the Year. You know, like

1775
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 4: I said, Tyler Warren All Pro Rookie of the Year

1776
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 4: on the offensive side, like how much better?

1777
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 5: How much more do you want?

1778
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 4: And selfishly, I guess the only thing I'm looking at

1779
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 4: realistically is do you make a move at the trade deadline?

1780
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 4: Do you continue to break sort of this character that

1781
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 4: you've had throughout the years, if you're Chris Ballard being conservative,

1782
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 4: which you kind of weren't this pass offseason, do you

1783
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 4: stick to that? Do you say, hey, you know what,

1784
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 4: I've taken some swings, they've worked out. It's time for

1785
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 4: us to go all in. And I believe one of

1786
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 4: the comments we had it was either on my story

1787
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 4: on the text line. So the NFL stands for not

1788
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 4: for long. So you know, you look at the top

1789
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 4: players on this team, Kevin, they're not young. So I mean,

1790
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 4: at first I was like, I don't know if you

1791
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 4: go all in, you want to keep your draft pick

1792
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 4: in this case, the season goes terribly and you know

1793
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 4: you want to make sure you're able to draft a quarterback,

1794
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 4: whatever the case can be. But I mean, at this point,

1795
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 4: it looks like if you can I'm not saying trade

1796
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 4: a first round pick, but if you can take some

1797
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 4: of your draft assets and move on from them and

1798
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:02,719
Speaker 4: perhaps package a player or two to go get somebody

1799
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:05,640
Speaker 4: who can help you right now today, I'm all in

1800
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 4: for that just because I feel like that window, if

1801
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 4: you're looking for it, it's probably standing you right in

1802
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 4: the face right now.

1803
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 3: Given that Tyler Warren comment earlier, and I agree wholeheartedly,

1804
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 3: I think Tyler Warren deserves to be right up there

1805
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 3: as an all Pro tight end this season. Yeah, what

1806
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:21,799
Speaker 3: would the Colts record be with Anthony Richardson under center.

1807
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 5: Right now?

1808
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 1: Today?

1809
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:29,759
Speaker 4: I probably had him like five hundred, maybe Warren three, yeah,

1810
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 4: something like that, three and four, four and three. Like,

1811
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:35,640
Speaker 4: I just don't think the consistency would be there as

1812
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 4: a passer. And that's the biggest thing for Daniel and

1813
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:42,600
Speaker 4: it's not just consistency, is that he's consistently aggressive and

1814
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 4: accurate down the field.

1815
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:47,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's walked the line beautifully. Jones of enough throws

1816
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 3: down the field. But then again when he needs to

1817
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 3: find simple, he finds it. He finds it every time.

1818
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean, how many like throw away since

1819
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones had how many just like dump passes that

1820
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 3: have gone in complete? That's proably the bigest between him

1821
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 3: and Richardson is like you know those little dump pats

1822
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:07,600
Speaker 3: passes to Mirabdulla on third and ten, it's completed and

1823
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 3: turns into fourth and two. Whereas with Richardson, I don't

1824
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 3: even know if he finds the checkdown to a mirror

1825
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 3: built and if he does, it might sail unto the dude.

1826
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, the dude holding the chains. But

1827
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 3: we don't have any Chang gangs anymore, do we.

1828
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1829
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 4: We I think we think that for visuals because it

1830
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 4: like years ago, I want to say, this might have been.

1831
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 3: They don't come on the field. They just stand on

1832
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 3: the sideline.

1833
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 5: I mean the first down markers. I guess the people

1834
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:31,759
Speaker 5: they still.

1835
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 3: Hold those up. Yeah, I guess.

1836
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 7: So.

1837
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was thinking, do.

1838
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 4: You remember when Will Levis like ran into somebody in

1839
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 4: Tennessee and like he like broke the guy's leg on

1840
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 4: the side, thinking like, man, that's when I feel like

1841
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 4: Chang Gangs should end it because I was. I can

1842
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 4: only imagine how upset that guy was, Like you bomb,

1843
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 4: Like how you run it to me?

1844
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 3: Colin will loves a bum. I think a lot of

1845
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 3: people would like to do that.

1846
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 1: One more thing on your point, too, Kevin. What Daniel

1847
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 1: Jones is really good at two is making the easy

1848
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,719
Speaker 1: play easy. This is there, Just just throw it. It's there,

1849
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 1: just throw it.

1850
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he finds simple. He finds simple. Every

1851
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 3: play has an answer, right, and seemingly Daniel Jones finds

1852
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 3: it at an extraordinarily high level.

1853
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 7: Right now.

1854
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 4: JT came a very unique answer about that as well,

1855
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 4: talking to him after this past week's game. This past

1856
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 4: week's when he was saying, yeah, pretty much, Daniel Jones

1857
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,640
Speaker 4: gives us every answer two or three times over. And

1858
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 4: we got to do is just take the test with

1859
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 4: all the answers. So if any of all have ever

1860
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 4: cheated in college like I did, it's pretty easy to

1861
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 4: you know, pass the test. We got all the answers.

1862
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 1: You are joking right now, right of course? All right,

1863
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,919
Speaker 1: come on in a moment. We will talk about trades,

1864
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 1: trade possibilities, and one major player will not be available.

1865
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it next at ninety three five and

1866
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 1: one seven five Fan. Good morning, great job as always

1867
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:54,599
Speaker 1: Mark Dyton and running this thing and stirring this plane,

1868
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 1: keeping it on the runway. Try to I know it's

1869
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 1: difficult times. James Voyd, Kevin Bowen, Jeffrickord with you this morning. Man,

1870
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 1: what a day we have had so far. Yesterday we

1871
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 1: had a chance to talk to Rick Carlisle will be

1872
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: on every Tuesday, as he always is throughout the course

1873
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 1: of the season. We talked about that. That's up on

1874
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 1: the website right now if you want to go to

1875
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 1: one of seven five thefan dot com. But a great

1876
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 1: conversation with Scott Dolson about an hour ago. Kevin, what

1877
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 1: were your big takeaways from talking to the man who's

1878
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 1: brought in Kurt Signetti and now giving him an extension

1879
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 1: and a raise, and Darren Devrees is here and the

1880
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 1: rest of the athletic program is rolling right now. What

1881
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 1: were your big takeaways there?

1882
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 3: Well, I think urgency, that's probably the word I would use.

1883
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:37,959
Speaker 3: You know, how quickly they got to that next extension

1884
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 3: for Scott Nilson from a pure like business sense, like

1885
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:45,640
Speaker 3: people that are obsessed with whatever finances and you know

1886
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 3: you need to you know, you have to earn the

1887
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 3: pay that you're going to get. They probably look at

1888
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 3: what two extensions in less than two years as skepticism,

1889
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 3: like what, I don't want to anything that's business. Why

1890
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:03,600
Speaker 3: are you doing that? But when you live in the

1891
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,719
Speaker 3: world of college football, that stuff goes out the window.

1892
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 3: Agents run the show.

1893
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:10,679
Speaker 5: It's still the projection right to a degree.

1894
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 3: Right, there is some of that, but you know the agents,

1895
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 3: they control so much of it. Jimmy Sexton's the big

1896
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,559
Speaker 3: agent out there. He's gonna, you know, move his pawns around.

1897
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 3: And you know, all of a sudden, one coach leaves

1898
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 3: that job, okay, how about three of my coaches flirt

1899
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:25,559
Speaker 3: with that job? Okay, that forces their three schools to

1900
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 3: now give those three coaches increases, and then I'll have

1901
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 3: a fourth coach coming there and he'll actually take the job.

1902
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 3: That's as sick as it is. That's how the game works.

1903
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 3: And so I think Scott Dolson and Pam Witten really

1904
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:38,759
Speaker 3: had no choice. Now, they could be stubborn and disagree

1905
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 3: with that or say no, we're not going to do that.

1906
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 3: We just extended him the year prior. We just he

1907
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 3: was making what north of eight million before the extension

1908
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 3: and they hired him originally to what five million or

1909
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:52,880
Speaker 3: I forget what the original contract was from JMU, But

1910
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 3: they didn't they realize, Hey, we got to play the game.

1911
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 3: And if we're right on this guy and he's been

1912
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 3: darn right so far, are what he will do for

1913
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 3: our university in our athletic program is going to be

1914
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 3: absolutely through the roof. And having that urgency and not

1915
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 3: being stubborn, not saying, oh well, yeah, Penn State, come

1916
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 3: after our guy. We have shown him support. Now you're

1917
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 3: going to go to the integree for that support. And

1918
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:20,799
Speaker 3: I think doing that shows you they care about football

1919
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 3: at that university, which has not always been something that

1920
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 3: I think you could say.

1921
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 1: The other thing that's stuck with me. A couple days ago,

1922
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:30,559
Speaker 1: I heard Kurt Signetti talking about how this all unfolded

1923
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 1: and he said it took him James about ninety minutes.

1924
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 1: Got the phone call. He said, they told me this

1925
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:37,640
Speaker 1: is what we want to do. This is how long

1926
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:40,639
Speaker 1: it wants to be. What do you think he checked

1927
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 1: in with his agent, talked about a little bit ninety minutes.

1928
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:45,720
Speaker 1: He said, that's how much you wanted to stay here.

1929
01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 4: It would have took me nine minutes for ninety seconds.

1930
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 4: I mean me, how much we want to wear more

1931
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 4: money to do the same exact job that you're doing.

1932
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 5: All were doing very well. How about it?

1933
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 1: Sign me up because other teams might pay you even

1934
01:30:58,920 --> 01:30:59,760
Speaker 1: more to leave.

1935
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 3: You do the whole like fake, like you don't really

1936
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 3: want to sign it, and then they leave the door

1937
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 3: and you call your wife and you're like, holy believe

1938
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:09,559
Speaker 3: it me this cool?

1939
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 6: Oh?

1940
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 5: Absolutely, man.

1941
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 4: I've never been in that position. But yeah, you get

1942
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 4: a job offer and it's like, oh, I got to

1943
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 4: talk it over with the family. For me, it's always

1944
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 4: like I talk it over my parents and my parents are.

1945
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 5: Like, hey, you know what infinite pay you boy?

1946
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 2: Cardiologist? Like I I am having hard palpitations. Ninety million?

1947
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:28,599
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't have much to dispute or are

1948
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 4: you Yes? I am worth that much if you think so?

1949
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 3: Now, I did hear we have the infamous Kurt Signetti

1950
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 3: picture of him in that lovely love seat. I did

1951
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:38,720
Speaker 3: see that in his you know, living room. It's it's

1952
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 3: the love seed he's had for years and amidst all

1953
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:45,719
Speaker 3: of these new finances going to the Signetti family, wife, Minette,

1954
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 3: I believe I'm saying that correct. The love seat is

1955
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 3: still there.

1956
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 6: You know.

1957
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,120
Speaker 3: I respect that though, because I feel like that's so

1958
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:54,640
Speaker 3: you can seem like Kirby Smart and Ryan Day. But

1959
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 3: I could not endorse that more. It's signet is one

1960
01:31:58,320 --> 01:31:58,719
Speaker 3: of us.

1961
01:31:58,840 --> 01:31:59,639
Speaker 5: A favorite pair.

1962
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, beat up sneakers or like it's worn.

1963
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 4: It's perfectly worn. It's yours. It's been like that for years.

1964
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 4: You get the new thing, it just doesn't feel the same.

1965
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 1: So I'm all for that.

1966
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:11,639
Speaker 5: I might look it might stick out like a sore

1967
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:12,800
Speaker 5: thumb and care place, but.

1968
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 1: Hey man, that's a cole bit of comfort.

1969
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:16,679
Speaker 5: We gotta remeber where we come from sometimes.

1970
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:19,040
Speaker 3: Now, can I ask you guys for some home advice?

1971
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:19,679
Speaker 7: Sure?

1972
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:21,760
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know why you're asking me. Hope it

1973
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 3: does involve children, really, hope. Maddie's already locked into work.

1974
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:30,160
Speaker 3: I don't get in trouble man, So shout out to

1975
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 3: my sixth grade English teacher. I probably am not doing

1976
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 3: this job without him. Carl Kannear at Clay Junior High Carl,

1977
01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 3: I should call him mister Kanear. Mister Kannear had Sports Illustrated.

1978
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 3: So picture our room right here, are you know, I

1979
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:46,400
Speaker 3: can call it a heinous room. Our heinous looking room

1980
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 3: right here, Picture a Sports Illustrated cover on every corner.

1981
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:51,679
Speaker 1: We like this guy.

1982
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 3: So, dating back, I want to say to like the

1983
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 3: seventies and sixth grade me was obsessed. Obviously you cannot

1984
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:01,679
Speaker 3: get enough of it, and you know, captured. I probably

1985
01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:04,720
Speaker 3: didn't pay as much attention as I should have just

1986
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:07,920
Speaker 3: looking at all these. So I and my parents were

1987
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:10,120
Speaker 3: very nice and they said, all right, for Christmas, we

1988
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:12,640
Speaker 3: will get you a subscription to Sports Illstrated. And so

1989
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:16,760
Speaker 3: I have had a subscription to Sports Illustrated and have

1990
01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 3: kept every cover since. And my parents a few years

1991
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 3: ago downsized from their home. When you know, obviously Ryan

1992
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:24,960
Speaker 3: and I were out of the house, and so my

1993
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 3: mom's like, we'll keep them, but at some point they

1994
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 3: need to go to your house. So they have made

1995
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 3: their way to my house. And the look on Mattie's

1996
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 3: face when I brought those inside was a look of

1997
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:40,560
Speaker 3: shock or awe all of those And now with a

1998
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 3: third child on the way, we have put Max and

1999
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:45,760
Speaker 3: Rosie into the same room, and so the sports illustrated.

2000
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 3: She looks at me the other day. They're underneath Rosie's

2001
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 3: old bed. She said, are we keeping these? Are we

2002
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 3: throwing these away?

2003
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 1: Which is really a question.

2004
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:00,720
Speaker 3: Thirty seven weeks pregnant, it's as easily been the most

2005
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 3: challenging pregnancy of them all. I could not hug and

2006
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 3: love her more. And the sacrifices she makes are through

2007
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 3: the roof. I think she wanted them at the curb.

2008
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 1: Well, you you read that statement correctly. You know what, boys,

2009
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 1: I will tell you that. But I got a solution.

2010
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 3: They're not going to the curb, and I need your

2011
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:17,880
Speaker 3: backing on this.

2012
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: I have a solution for it, I'll say backing.

2013
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 5: I don't have a spare room in my apartment, so

2014
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:23,680
Speaker 5: I don't keeping back into your need.

2015
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 3: They're currently in our downstairs. We have a shower in

2016
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 3: the basement. By no means it has ever been used

2017
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 3: in our lives. They're currently in there. She wants them

2018
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 3: out of there as well. Should I keep them or

2019
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 3: should I? Listen to her?

2020
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 1: Do you have a shed?

2021
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:39,600
Speaker 2: Do you have anywhere you can put these things? I

2022
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 2: feel like the elements are going to Yeah, I could

2023
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 2: not agree with you.

2024
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 3: I need a three person vote.

2025
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 1: All of you have.

2026
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:51,880
Speaker 3: Truly if we just look issues inside and put the

2027
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 3: rest in the sheds.

2028
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:55,439
Speaker 2: That stay with me, everyone else goes outside.

2029
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:57,800
Speaker 1: Should I keep or should I throw away? I need,

2030
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 1: I need votes. If you're just before I I'll go Yes,

2031
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 1: you keep them, but I might have a solution for

2032
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 1: you at the end. Okay, James, keep or throw away? Oh?

2033
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:15,680
Speaker 4: Man, man, I'm gonna say, Keith, because I think that

2034
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:18,800
Speaker 4: the bond is strong enough that you won't be asking

2035
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 4: one of us to spend the night.

2036
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 3: That's too Mark, Yeah, unanimous here, you keep them because

2037
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:25,800
Speaker 3: I would say, I love you guys.

2038
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 2: How many compromises have I made? I don't know if

2039
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 2: that's gonna go overwhelm.

2040
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:34,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's your.

2041
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 2: Core that you've just just accepted. Give me one win.

2042
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 2: I need one win.

2043
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:41,200
Speaker 5: Can we bring them into the studio.

2044
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:42,600
Speaker 1: I didn't think about that.

2045
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:44,759
Speaker 3: I thought about, you know, what is our new situation

2046
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 3: going to look like when we do the studio move buildings?

2047
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 5: So I I have thought going on with the new building.

2048
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 3: And you know, at some point, if we ever, you know,

2049
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:55,600
Speaker 3: get into maybe a bigger home or something like that,

2050
01:35:55,760 --> 01:36:00,760
Speaker 3: maybe there's sphere, and maybe they were would be a

2051
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 3: decore element that we could involve. Gosh, if you heard that,

2052
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:08,599
Speaker 3: she'd be appalled that even suggested that. So I I'm

2053
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 3: glad that you guys are my friends. I think you

2054
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:13,160
Speaker 3: could be like you can kind of travel too. You

2055
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:15,960
Speaker 3: can say I really need this win right here, life's

2056
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:16,439
Speaker 3: going tough.

2057
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:25,599
Speaker 2: I could really use its pregnant. Thinking about a lot

2058
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:29,120
Speaker 2: of things, you gonna say you of all of them.

2059
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm shocked that you're going down.

2060
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 2: To I'm on the blank list more than anybody. What

2061
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 2: are you talking about? You just used to be in there,

2062
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:36,760
Speaker 2: so you don't care. Yeah, the couch is inscribed with

2063
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 2: my butt cheets. Here's my question, just doing some quick

2064
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:41,640
Speaker 2: in my head math. You were how old when you

2065
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 2: started this collection?

2066
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 1: Sixth grade?

2067
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:44,719
Speaker 3: So what are you? Eleven? Twelve?

2068
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:47,719
Speaker 1: So that's fifty two probably call it after a special

2069
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 1: edition to fifty four a year on average.

2070
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 3: You have all of them. We got them, We got

2071
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:55,360
Speaker 3: them stacked up high in the in the shower. I

2072
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 3: I can take a picture for you guys and show

2073
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 3: it to you.

2074
01:36:57,360 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 1: Because my other thought was if she tiger Woods cover,

2075
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:04,879
Speaker 1: she digs your heels in maybe you can get fifteen

2076
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:07,720
Speaker 1: or twenty and frame those covers.

2077
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:10,760
Speaker 4: These sudden says, KB is going all the time, throw

2078
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:11,599
Speaker 4: that bleep out.

2079
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:12,759
Speaker 5: It's not worth anything.

2080
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 3: You hoard her? Could you convince her.

2081
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:16,000
Speaker 2: That they are worth something?

2082
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 7: Though?

2083
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:18,559
Speaker 3: Could you say these, you know, I really are they

2084
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 3: worth anything?

2085
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 1: Probably?

2086
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 3: But does she know that you?

2087
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:24,720
Speaker 2: Could you just say I'm research, I'm doing research to

2088
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 2: see how much these are, Like there's some good Tiger

2089
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 2: Woods ones in there.

2090
01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:27,960
Speaker 1: James.

2091
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:29,760
Speaker 3: Are you a collector of your credentials?

2092
01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:31,519
Speaker 5: I am, actually you are?

2093
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:32,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.

2094
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 6: I do.

2095
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:36,000
Speaker 4: I'm not really sentimental like that, but my sister told

2096
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:37,720
Speaker 4: me years ago I'll probably keep them, and she said, hey,

2097
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 4: when you are done with this, she would, And she's

2098
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:42,720
Speaker 4: kind of artistic like that. She was like, hey, I'll

2099
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 4: take them and get them like putting like a I

2100
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:47,080
Speaker 4: don't know, a frame box or something to kind of

2101
01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:47,680
Speaker 4: look back at.

2102
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:49,840
Speaker 3: Your career, like I have framed in our basement. It

2103
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:52,760
Speaker 3: is a small frame. Maddie actually likes that one and

2104
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:54,559
Speaker 3: certainly been in the news here over the last couple

2105
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 3: of weeks. Indianally student the front cover of the watch shot.

2106
01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 3: You know, my article from that game was on there.

2107
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:00,800
Speaker 3: And so like that to me, and it means a lot.

2108
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:03,719
Speaker 4: Frankly, I've got a couple of articles that are framed.

2109
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:06,880
Speaker 3: You probably had some stuff in the New York.

2110
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:09,360
Speaker 5: It's very cool. Yeah, I've got some stuff framed.

2111
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:11,600
Speaker 4: I feel like every time I get something framed, it

2112
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:14,559
Speaker 4: ends up not in my possession anymore if somebody else

2113
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 4: wants it, the mom, the grandma, the aunt. And I'm

2114
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:20,080
Speaker 4: just like, so I think I have things across the country.

2115
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 4: I don't have any more. But yes, I'm still team

2116
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:25,599
Speaker 4: keep your stuff. But also it's just confirmation biased because

2117
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 4: you're asking a much of sports guys.

2118
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 5: Should they keep sports magazine?

2119
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 3: Like what do you want me to go?

2120
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:34,240
Speaker 1: Walk out on the circle and him the street? You

2121
01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:35,880
Speaker 1: guys had the old people I talked to you for the.

2122
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 4: I feel like the TTV crowd or more of that

2123
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 4: ILK might be like that's not gonna.

2124
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:46,600
Speaker 1: Fit with you know the function way, So listeners are

2125
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 1: willing to help. Joe just texted in it two through nine,

2126
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:51,559
Speaker 1: ten seventy and said, Kevin, if you want to bring

2127
01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 1: him to New Albany, I have an extra room to

2128
01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:57,679
Speaker 1: store them all caps. Do not throw them away.

2129
01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:00,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not I'm not. I think I've come to

2130
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:03,120
Speaker 3: that conclusion. They will not be thrown away, Joe if

2131
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 3: I drive two hours to New Albany, thank you for

2132
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 3: the offer. Maddie probably Actually Maddie might drive them herself

2133
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:13,559
Speaker 3: two hours to New Albany just get get rid of them.

2134
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:16,360
Speaker 3: So she's incredibly supportive of what I do and all

2135
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:18,519
Speaker 3: my nerdy. I mean, oh, she watches me rant and

2136
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:21,040
Speaker 3: rave about not her name weekly and yet she's still

2137
01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:23,599
Speaker 3: married to me. It's just the sports illustrats i'd really

2138
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 3: like to keep.

2139
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:27,080
Speaker 2: So you busted out all the Halloween and like fall decorps,

2140
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 2: and like we keep them in big tubs, like weather

2141
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:29,960
Speaker 2: sealed tubs.

2142
01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:31,120
Speaker 3: Do you have any of those?

2143
01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 2: There's Bucks and.

2144
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 3: Costco or some in tubs. And I have some of

2145
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 3: my credentials as well in those tubs. And then my

2146
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 3: dad shout out to my dad when you know, they

2147
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:43,639
Speaker 3: were moving homes and I was at college, he helped

2148
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:46,720
Speaker 3: saran wrap them together. So they are, you know, like

2149
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:49,320
Speaker 3: twenty twelve saran rap here in two thousand and six

2150
01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 3: Saran wrap here.

2151
01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:52,920
Speaker 4: See, I think you had a bus of Sarana rap

2152
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 4: hoping if you can just go all in, if you're

2153
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:55,800
Speaker 4: gonna keep them, put them up in the bedroom.

2154
01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:57,719
Speaker 1: You gotta be able to access them at some point, don't.

2155
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:01,360
Speaker 2: You can't just have them all under master bedroom and say, hey,

2156
01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:05,519
Speaker 2: Maddy Bowing. I meant you're wondering why our bet is

2157
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 2: eighteen inches higher.

2158
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 3: It's because I have all these sports ill strats and

2159
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:11,200
Speaker 3: the Envision one day Max and I perhaps sitting down

2160
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:12,439
Speaker 3: looking at a feel of them.

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01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 4: Honestly, with the way that sports media is going, I'm

2162
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:18,640
Speaker 4: working out thet doesn't print anything. I mean, I work

2163
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:20,280
Speaker 4: for the New York Times technically, but like we don't

2164
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:23,360
Speaker 4: print every athletic article. Yeah, I think that you should

2165
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 4: hold on to the stage.

2166
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:26,759
Speaker 3: And I know I've said this before in these airwaves.

2167
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:29,479
Speaker 3: One of the coolest things that I think is happening

2168
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 3: today in the year of twenty twenty five, and I

2169
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 3: hope it never stops. And shout out to Doug Bowles,

2170
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:35,160
Speaker 3: the fact that we still have a hard ticket to

2171
01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:37,639
Speaker 3: go into the Innapolis five hundred and that hard ticket

2172
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:40,280
Speaker 3: is cool. I mean it is you know New Garden,

2173
01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 3: you know, climbing over the fence or you know l

2174
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:46,280
Speaker 3: e oh whatever, Spider maning or whatever. Pulo will be

2175
01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:48,560
Speaker 3: on the ticket this year, like and the fact that

2176
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:51,320
Speaker 3: Pacer fans could have, if I'm not mistaken, got a

2177
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 3: commit commemorate of ticket to the finals game three, four

2178
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:58,000
Speaker 3: and six. I think that's awesome, Like the hard copy

2179
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:00,439
Speaker 3: of it to me. And again I'm showing I should

2180
01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 3: keep saying. I'm showing my older age than thirty six here,

2181
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:05,719
Speaker 3: probably why I got a hair transplant. Uh, the fact

2182
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:07,840
Speaker 3: that we have those things.

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01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 6: I like.

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01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:12,240
Speaker 4: The last thing I'll say on this topic, I think

2185
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 4: you should talk to Rick Ventury because when I follow

2186
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 4: him around like I do all like once every camp,

2187
01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:21,560
Speaker 4: training camp, that is, we get to talk in and

2188
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:25,280
Speaker 4: he's told me that he's kept every single notebook that

2189
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 4: he's taking notes on whatever team he's covered or not

2190
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:31,200
Speaker 4: really covered or worked for. I should say throughout like

2191
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 4: his I don't know, thirty forty years in pro football

2192
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:36,599
Speaker 4: and they're all in his basement.

2193
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:38,600
Speaker 5: And I said, hey, you know.

2194
01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:41,920
Speaker 4: Does the missus ever think like, man, we should get

2195
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:43,160
Speaker 4: rid of some of these And he said, if she

2196
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:47,960
Speaker 4: ever got rid of my notebooks, it'll be over you go.

2197
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 3: And I got a feeling that Coach Venturia, when you

2198
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:52,800
Speaker 3: say confirmation bias, Rick Ventury might be at the top.

2199
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:56,400
Speaker 4: So I mean again, guys isn't married for a long time,

2200
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 4: very marriage. He's living a great life. You know the rules,

2201
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:02,760
Speaker 4: you know, he says, Hey, don't die, don't get married,

2202
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 4: don't have a baby during football season.

2203
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 5: It's worked well for the man.

2204
01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:07,640
Speaker 4: So I think you talk to a veteran unlike us

2205
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 4: who don't know who don't have as much experience.

2206
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:12,280
Speaker 2: He's got experience. Indoor storage unit is also an alternative.

2207
01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what that costs money though every month?

2208
01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:17,679
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I think we all got our corks.

2209
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:20,760
Speaker 4: I'm like that with sneakers everyone day. The misses will

2210
01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:21,200
Speaker 4: probably tell me.

2211
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 3: People call me I'm a door. People are saying I'm

2212
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:23,559
Speaker 3: a loser.

2213
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:26,320
Speaker 1: I got a whole garage. I got a whole garage

2214
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 1: full of bikes, and I even have one or two

2215
01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:31,680
Speaker 1: in Colorado. And I get hit on by my my

2216
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:34,080
Speaker 1: step mom and my wife all the time about that.

2217
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 1: I've seen movies like that too, No hit on, hit

2218
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:39,120
Speaker 1: on to get rid of them, by the by the wife.

2219
01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:40,799
Speaker 1: Let me finish the sentence.

2220
01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 5: Who I don't know where are we're going with that boy?

2221
01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 8: Man?

2222
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:46,880
Speaker 4: Get a checkdown before that's a whole Jeff movie too.

2223
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:49,519
Speaker 4: You were told that line last week. Jeff, you want

2224
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:50,839
Speaker 4: to be coming back with him, but a little black.

2225
01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm at the point at the point it's all good now.

2226
01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 3: And you said you're flying out after the nine thirty.

2227
01:42:56,479 --> 01:42:56,639
Speaker 1: Home.

2228
01:42:56,840 --> 01:43:01,200
Speaker 3: Probably good news here it is. I sports training problems

2229
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 3: were a big deal.

2230
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:04,559
Speaker 1: Our buddy C's got something for you, Kevin. It's time

2231
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:06,800
Speaker 1: to turn the garage into a man cave. That way,

2232
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:09,480
Speaker 1: they're no longer in the house, but still in your possession.

2233
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:15,639
Speaker 1: It's a want, but turn it into a man cave.

2234
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:19,240
Speaker 3: Hell, it's dusty as hell, it's old as hell.

2235
01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 5: You can you can fix it.

2236
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:23,479
Speaker 3: Appreciate you guys listening to my yes to my story.

2237
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 3: I probably won't splice this one out and sent it.

2238
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:28,320
Speaker 1: To Nick The Quaker wants to know. Are the swimsuit

2239
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 1: issues priests oran or not? Important detail to understand.

2240
01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:36,720
Speaker 2: Those might being a little rougher condition. Probably is what

2241
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 2: I'm guessing.

2242
01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:41,720
Speaker 1: Uh, someone says, keep them Tell Maddie, s I was

2243
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:43,920
Speaker 1: the inspiration that led to your career that helps you

2244
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:47,240
Speaker 1: to have a beautiful home raising great kids. You owe

2245
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:47,880
Speaker 1: it to s I.

2246
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:49,000
Speaker 2: It's pat forty.

2247
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 3: Anonymous needs to silence whoever sent that in.

2248
01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:56,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, just making sure you know you don't hit on

2249
01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:58,479
Speaker 5: anybody falling.

2250
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 2: Mark saying he watched a movie about some step we

2251
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:04,840
Speaker 2: weren't on Company Wi Fi. I could show it to you.

2252
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:10,440
Speaker 1: Should we sell you this? This group never disappoints.

2253
01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 5: Yes, we should dely chack it down.

2254
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:16,600
Speaker 9: The Morning Checkdown on nuety sweet five and one oh

2255
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:17,320
Speaker 9: seven five.

2256
01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:21,040
Speaker 1: Guy can't even finish this sentence before people jump all

2257
01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 1: over and Mark Dyke.

2258
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 5: Did, Man, I don't know you you set yourself up

2259
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 5: for it.

2260
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 1: There hadn't finished the thought. Yeah, man, we got.

2261
01:44:31,240 --> 01:44:33,400
Speaker 3: A bit looked like a usc dude fumbling in the

2262
01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:35,559
Speaker 3: fourth quarter on the old trick play the other night.

2263
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, but look like.

2264
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:39,360
Speaker 6: There you go.

2265
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:43,240
Speaker 1: Man, oh man, you guys are rough. Uh tell me

2266
01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 1: about the Colts. What are we looking forward to today

2267
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 1: when they get back over at West fifty six? Yeah?

2268
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:48,280
Speaker 4: I think a lot of it has to do with health.

2269
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:51,479
Speaker 4: You want to see Josh Downs back at practice. Perhaps

2270
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:53,680
Speaker 4: he had missed last week's game with a concussion. And

2271
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:56,360
Speaker 4: then you know, what is the status of Taekwon Lewis

2272
01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:58,439
Speaker 4: with that growing injury. Where Samson that w com when

2273
01:44:58,479 --> 01:44:59,400
Speaker 4: it comes to his knee injury.

2274
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:00,439
Speaker 5: Things of nature.

2275
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 4: I think injuries are usually the first thing to come

2276
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 4: to mind for me when we get back to practicing.

2277
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 4: On top of that, you know, flipping a page two

2278
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:09,840
Speaker 4: next week, Titans, you beat them already, but at the

2279
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:11,519
Speaker 4: same time they have a new coach in there.

2280
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:14,800
Speaker 5: What challenges do they perhaps present? Maybe not much, but

2281
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:16,160
Speaker 5: you know, I want to hear for Saint second.

2282
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:18,200
Speaker 1: All right, Colt will play at four to twenty five

2283
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:22,080
Speaker 1: on Sunday afternoon Lucas Oil Stadium. You'll be able to

2284
01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:25,719
Speaker 1: hear the game in its entirety on Hank FM ninety

2285
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:30,200
Speaker 1: seven point one. We will carry John's pregame show, the Drive,

2286
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:32,920
Speaker 1: the Drive to kick Off, the Ride to Kickoff. Beginning

2287
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 1: at noon. We'll have all the pregame, but once the

2288
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:38,360
Speaker 1: game kicks off, you need to tune in to Hank

2289
01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:41,800
Speaker 1: ninety seven point one FM because we've got Pacers a

2290
01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:45,080
Speaker 1: little bit later on that night. And speaking of the Pacers,

2291
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 1: Mark Site. Then they open their twenty five twenty six

2292
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:51,799
Speaker 1: season tomorrow night at the Fieldhouse against Oklahoma City, airtime

2293
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 1: six thirty. Mark Boyle as the play by play at seven.

2294
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:58,040
Speaker 1: It's a rematch of the NBA Finals last night to

2295
01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 1: start the season. The Thunder not only raised their banner,

2296
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:03,800
Speaker 1: but they then defeated the Houston Rockets one twenty five,

2297
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:06,160
Speaker 1: one twenty four in double overtime. We were talking about

2298
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:09,320
Speaker 1: this before the show started. Kevin uh shake, Gilgess, Alexander

2299
01:46:09,320 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 1: can play basketball. He's pretty good.

2300
01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:13,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, great, especially second half. Hit a huge shot there

2301
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:16,400
Speaker 3: late to force the game. I'm trying to remember correctly.

2302
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 3: I think into the first overtime Chet Holmgren I thought

2303
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:21,519
Speaker 3: was really good as well. Obviously that'll be a key

2304
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:24,640
Speaker 3: for the Pacers tomorrow night given their center issues. So

2305
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:27,560
Speaker 3: we'll see about Jalen Williams. That's the good one with

2306
01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:30,559
Speaker 3: the wrist injury. Didn't play last night. The good one

2307
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 3: is I'm sorry, That's the only way I know I

2308
01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 3: describe it. They literally have two Jalen Williams on the

2309
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:37,200
Speaker 3: same team, the one that without the hair. I mean,

2310
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:39,320
Speaker 3: he's got good hair, but not the crazy hair like

2311
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:42,479
Speaker 3: the other one has. So yeah, Pacers Thunder tomorrow. I'm

2312
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:44,479
Speaker 3: curious about the injury report, you know, if I'm trying

2313
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:46,040
Speaker 3: to go through the list of it. Obviously we know

2314
01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 3: no McConnell, Quintin Jackson hamstring. Some people are like, why

2315
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 3: are you bringing up Quintin Jackson if healthy, he's your

2316
01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:54,519
Speaker 3: backup point guards. Yeah for tomorrow night. Jaris Walker didn't

2317
01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:56,920
Speaker 3: play in the last preseason game with a back, and

2318
01:46:56,960 --> 01:46:58,720
Speaker 3: then Johnny Furfey and he was shooting threes and we

2319
01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:01,400
Speaker 3: were out there yesterday an ankle issue, and Furfey I

2320
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:04,240
Speaker 3: think could be in the rotation tomorrow night. So I

2321
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:09,000
Speaker 3: don't know. I find myself like just super curious about

2322
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:11,240
Speaker 3: this Pacer season and that has me looking forward to

2323
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 3: tomorrow night a lot. Like there's a lot of unknown,

2324
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:18,080
Speaker 3: but it's curious, and you know, I think we can

2325
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 3: bank on a four man core moving forward. Haliburton, Ni Smith,

2326
01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:23,960
Speaker 3: Nemhart Siakam who joins it. I think that's a big

2327
01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:24,519
Speaker 3: question as well.

2328
01:47:24,640 --> 01:47:26,559
Speaker 2: That video yesterday that they put out the social media

2329
01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:28,879
Speaker 2: team for the Pacers, by the way, was excellent.

2330
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:29,560
Speaker 1: Did you see that?

2331
01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:29,760
Speaker 9: Ye?

2332
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:30,519
Speaker 3: Really well done.

2333
01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:34,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone's got us, everyone's doubting us again this video

2334
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:36,639
Speaker 2: for this season, if you're standing Yeah.

2335
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:38,760
Speaker 4: Turned out to my guy Juwan Nelson, who had a

2336
01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:40,840
Speaker 4: chance to work on that project. He's a videographer.

2337
01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:42,000
Speaker 3: Really well done.

2338
01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:46,280
Speaker 1: It was good stuff, Juan, great work, all right, And

2339
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:49,519
Speaker 1: speak of great work, how about the new intro for

2340
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:53,679
Speaker 1: NBC getting the NBA back last night round Ball Rock

2341
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:57,360
Speaker 1: terrific intro, terrific panel. They got Michael Jordan on there.

2342
01:47:57,439 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 1: Now looks like Tariko and Reggie Miller broadcast team. I'm

2343
01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:03,880
Speaker 1: excited about watching basketball on network TV.

2344
01:48:04,120 --> 01:48:06,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, you'd be surprised what happens when you actually promote

2345
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:10,840
Speaker 5: the basketball when you're going to, you know, host a

2346
01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:12,559
Speaker 5: basketball program on your network.

2347
01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:14,280
Speaker 1: Men, everything's not a hot take.

2348
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:16,679
Speaker 5: Oh, it was great. It was great to just actually happen.

2349
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:17,800
Speaker 5: I'm so serious about that.

2350
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:18,639
Speaker 1: I am too, man.

2351
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 2: I think I think the studio show still needs a

2352
01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:22,920
Speaker 2: little bit of tweaking. I feel like NBC is such

2353
01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:26,120
Speaker 2: a strong sports brand, but their studio shows are lacking

2354
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:27,960
Speaker 2: a bit. I need the NBA and the NFL to both.

2355
01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:30,080
Speaker 2: Also thought it was funny that they had Chet Holmgren

2356
01:48:30,160 --> 01:48:30,479
Speaker 2: out there.

2357
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:32,800
Speaker 4: Looked like he just stepped out of the shower with

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Speaker 4: a towel on, showing the ringless trio of Tracy McGrady,

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Speaker 4: Vince Carter, and Carmel Anthony his championship ring and he's

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Speaker 4: like twenty three and these guys are the Hall of Famers.

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Speaker 5: It's like you can find anybody on that panel to

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Speaker 5: have a ring.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Other game last night.

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Speaker 2: Goldens Michael Jordan's doing five minute intervals.

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Speaker 1: He's busy.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Warriors beat the Lakers one nineteen to one oh nine.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler led the way with thirty one points, enough

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Speaker 1: to offset Luka Donc's forty three points and twelve rebounds.

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Speaker 1: A host of games tonight as the season continues to

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Speaker 1: kick off this week, it'll be the Cleveland Cavaliers in

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01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:09,840
Speaker 1: New York to take on the Knicks. You have to

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Speaker 1: root for somebody in that Who would it be?

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Speaker 5: I think if you're a pacer saying you always got

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Speaker 5: to go with the non Nicks.

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Speaker 1: I think so going to go with people.

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Speaker 3: Got some great advice to what to do with these

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Speaker 3: sports illustrats.

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Speaker 1: I'm just scrolling through the text. We're going to go

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Speaker 1: through some of those coming up in a minute.

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Speaker 2: Them he did the same thing with his SiZ and

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Speaker 2: made the coolest bar top ever.

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Speaker 1: See, there's lots of things to do. We'll get to

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Speaker 1: those coming up in a minute. We'll also let you

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Speaker 1: know that college football getting ready to kick off again

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Speaker 1: this weekend. I you will host UCLA on Saturday. Had

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01:49:40,160 --> 01:49:42,639
Speaker 1: a chance to talk to Scott Dolson about his new

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01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:45,880
Speaker 1: contract with head football coach Kurt Signetty just a little

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Speaker 1: while ago. That'll be up on the website a little

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Speaker 1: bit later.

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Speaker 10: Is it.

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Speaker 1: Like it's already there? Through there? Ten oh one fired up?

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Speaker 1: Download it all. Give us a like again if you subscribe.

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Speaker 1: If you're over in Speedway today and you hear the

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Speaker 1: familiar sounds of Indy cars, there's a reason for that.

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Speaker 1: More more off season testing on the oval tracks going

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Speaker 1: on out there. They did a little bit yesterday, a

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Speaker 1: little bit more today. Speaking of Twitter, I saw Doug

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Speaker 1: Bowles was posting just little shots from around the Speedway

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Speaker 1: all day yesterday. It was kind of fun.

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Speaker 3: Yes great to see that college basketball again perdue at

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01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:25,400
Speaker 3: Kentucky coming up. The Matt Paynter conversation with jamb always

2404
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:28,120
Speaker 3: a great one yesterday afternoon. So Purdue will get underway

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01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:31,640
Speaker 3: coming up Friday down there in Rup in Indiana, right

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Speaker 3: here at Gambridge Field House, that is one o'clock Sunday

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01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:39,479
Speaker 3: afternoon against Baylor in an exhibition game. Scott Drew coming

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01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:41,000
Speaker 3: home there with the Baylor Bears.

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Speaker 1: All right, anything else you guys want to throw in?

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Speaker 1: I think we're good.

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Speaker 3: All right, I got a Colts cornerback that sounds like

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01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:49,320
Speaker 3: you might want to play football. A former Colts cornerback

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01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:50,680
Speaker 3: who did have one good year here.

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Speaker 7: Who was it?

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01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:54,920
Speaker 1: Let's tease it, all right, We'll do that and get

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01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:58,840
Speaker 1: you get more help too. Now to the text line,

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01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:00,880
Speaker 1: these are great people. Are people are coming to your

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Speaker 1: aid right here. We'll tell you all about it next

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Speaker 1: ninety three five one or seven five the fan Happy Wednesday.

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01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:11,400
Speaker 1: We got a little bit of a dilemma here for

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01:51:11,560 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen. He's got his third child on the way.

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01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:18,320
Speaker 1: His wonderful, amazing wife Mattie is did you say thirty

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Speaker 1: seven weeks along? Now?

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01:51:19,280 --> 01:51:21,880
Speaker 3: Thirty seven week appointment here in about an hour, and

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01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:22,640
Speaker 3: she wants to know.

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01:51:23,439 --> 01:51:27,519
Speaker 1: Hey, I love the way they ask these questions too, Hey,

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01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:31,080
Speaker 1: are you keeping all those Sports illustrated.

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01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:34,800
Speaker 3: Maybe a slightly sterner tone than that, if I could,

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01:51:35,080 --> 01:51:37,360
Speaker 3: you know, maybe get a little bit more descriptive on

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01:51:37,439 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 3: that before we get back on Sports illustrateds. I did

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01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 3: tease this and James Boyd, it seems like the Colts

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01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:44,519
Speaker 3: work out every corner over the age of thirty years old.

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01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:47,840
Speaker 3: How about this former corner with this tweet woke up

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01:51:47,880 --> 01:51:50,759
Speaker 3: this morning with an itch to get back on the field.

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01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:58,040
Speaker 3: This is Darius Butler. Ooh, Exavier Roads oooh, former first

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01:51:58,160 --> 01:51:59,479
Speaker 3: round pick. How old do you think he is? I'm

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01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:01,680
Speaker 3: gonna guess thirty three? Yeah, Yeah, that's what I was

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01:52:01,720 --> 01:52:05,679
Speaker 3: going to guess. All right, Well, let's see boy thirty five?

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01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:06,400
Speaker 1: Thirty five?

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01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:07,439
Speaker 3: Is that what Gilmour is?

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01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:09,519
Speaker 1: Gilmore Gilly is?

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01:52:09,600 --> 01:52:10,120
Speaker 5: Thirty five?

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01:52:10,439 --> 01:52:12,000
Speaker 1: What a freak? See?

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01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:13,280
Speaker 5: So is he middle aged?

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01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:17,840
Speaker 1: When you always I always think of the great Darryl

2446
01:52:17,880 --> 01:52:20,879
Speaker 1: Green who played till he was forty two with Washington.

2447
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:23,040
Speaker 1: But the thingrazy. But here's the thing that was crazy

2448
01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:26,679
Speaker 1: about Darryl Green. For the first twelve years of his career,

2449
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:29,960
Speaker 1: he was clearly the fastest guy in the NFL. At

2450
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:32,040
Speaker 1: some people said he was under four to three for

2451
01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:34,679
Speaker 1: the forty right. So the thing is, if you lose

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01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:36,680
Speaker 1: a step in your mid thirties and all of a

2453
01:52:36,720 --> 01:52:39,680
Speaker 1: sudden you're still running a four to three five, and

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01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:43,200
Speaker 1: you have all the experience and knowledge, you're probably still

2455
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:45,479
Speaker 1: a pretty decent cornerback at that point in time. Right.

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01:52:46,160 --> 01:52:48,719
Speaker 3: I will add this to the debate we had yesterday

2457
01:52:48,760 --> 01:52:51,560
Speaker 3: in the nine o'clock hour with Joel ericson. You know

2458
01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:53,280
Speaker 3: what would you and James? I think you and I

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01:52:53,479 --> 01:52:56,200
Speaker 3: are on the same page. I'd vote pass Rusher over Corner.

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01:52:56,760 --> 01:52:58,760
Speaker 3: I can be talked into either, but I if he

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Speaker 3: had to make me pick right, I would vote pastor Washington.

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01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:05,120
Speaker 3: I'm leaving here with some You know, I got a

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01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:09,040
Speaker 3: little nervous yesterday when lou Anroumo drops the stat on

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01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:13,200
Speaker 3: the zoom of Hey, right now, we're seventh in sacks. No, no, no,

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01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:17,639
Speaker 3: you're nineteenth in sacks. To me, it's sacks per pass attempt.

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01:53:18,439 --> 01:53:21,920
Speaker 3: It's not just purely sacks. Yeah, if you're playing Navy

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01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:23,680
Speaker 3: and Army every week, you're not gonna have a lot

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01:53:23,680 --> 01:53:26,479
Speaker 3: of sacks. But if you sacked Navy and Army twice

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01:53:26,520 --> 01:53:29,160
Speaker 3: on five pass attempts, you're doing a damn good job

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01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:32,160
Speaker 3: of sacking the quarterback. And right now, sacks per pass

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01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:35,480
Speaker 3: attempt you're nineteenth in the league. And given your investments,

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01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:37,640
Speaker 3: and given the quarterbacks you've played and the banged up

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01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:40,960
Speaker 3: offensive lines you've played, I would argue that needs to

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01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 3: be higher. I know there are pressure numbers pretty good.

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01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:48,360
Speaker 3: I feel like the pressure takes too long, very effort,

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01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:54,280
Speaker 3: very stunt based, not enough individual dudes winning, and so

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Speaker 3: that's why if I had to pick, I would side

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Speaker 3: with one of the other. If you look at the

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01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:00,760
Speaker 3: last two weeks, especially Jacobe percent and Justin Herbert, they've

2480
01:54:00,840 --> 01:54:04,439
Speaker 3: held onto the ball longer than normal for them, and

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01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:07,360
Speaker 3: that's why Jacoby threw for a career high. And how

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01:54:07,400 --> 01:54:10,200
Speaker 3: many games does Jacoby player Herbert through for a career high?

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01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:12,600
Speaker 3: And Herbert's played what ninety games in his career and

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01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:14,559
Speaker 3: Jacoby had one of the highest games of his career

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01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:18,240
Speaker 3: and he started over whatever fifty some games. So that's

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Speaker 3: where I would go.

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Speaker 1: One guy who will not be on the market. The

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01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:26,600
Speaker 1: Raiders met asked with on his day off, asked to

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01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:30,320
Speaker 1: meet with Max Crosby yesterday to inform him they have

2490
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:33,800
Speaker 1: no interest in trading him anywhere anytime soon. He will

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Speaker 1: be a member of the Las Vegas Raiders.

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01:54:36,040 --> 01:54:38,680
Speaker 5: Did he just sign like a huge deal as well?

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01:54:39,520 --> 01:54:41,720
Speaker 2: So, and he brought in Pete Carroll, So like, what

2494
01:54:41,800 --> 01:54:43,360
Speaker 2: would you be doing bring in Pete Carroll and then

2495
01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:44,400
Speaker 2: get rid of back Scrosby.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but for the purposes of like the Colts. I

2497
01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:48,200
Speaker 4: don't think that they would make that sort of move

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01:54:48,320 --> 01:54:50,720
Speaker 4: just because he won. Would probably cost you a first

2499
01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:54,600
Speaker 4: round pick and then a lot of money, which again,

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01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:57,120
Speaker 4: I feel like the move should probably be something where

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01:54:57,200 --> 01:55:00,320
Speaker 4: you know, you get somebody that's serviceable and and you know,

2502
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:02,560
Speaker 4: maybe a little flawed is probably.

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01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:04,520
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that.

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01:55:04,640 --> 01:55:06,160
Speaker 4: Like, I don't think you need to go like, Okay,

2505
01:55:06,280 --> 01:55:08,520
Speaker 4: we have to go get the best of the best,

2506
01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:10,920
Speaker 4: because that's gonna cost you a whole lot.

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01:55:11,520 --> 01:55:15,400
Speaker 2: Colleen rig of the bank draft compensation wise, I.

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01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:16,200
Speaker 1: Like where this is headed.

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01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:19,360
Speaker 3: Colleen here, My mother is also named Colleen. Do not

2510
01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:22,960
Speaker 3: believe this to her. I don't think her technological savviness

2511
01:55:23,080 --> 01:55:25,080
Speaker 3: is at to the point where she's texting the radio show.

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01:55:25,120 --> 01:55:25,960
Speaker 1: Okay, Kevin.

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01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:30,360
Speaker 3: I have every Scout magazine from the first Colts game.

2514
01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:33,600
Speaker 3: I went to a nineteen ninety five up until this year,

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01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:35,920
Speaker 3: so I'm with you say that's great. So for those

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01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:38,640
Speaker 3: that haven't been to Colts games, that's basically the program

2517
01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 3: from every game. This from Clint. Tell me the day

2518
01:55:43,240 --> 01:55:45,000
Speaker 3: you put it at the curb and I'll be down

2519
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:48,880
Speaker 3: the street taking store till Maddie comes around. Okay, thank

2520
01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:51,880
Speaker 3: you for those that are just joining us. I have

2521
01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:54,280
Speaker 3: kept every Sports Illustrated since I was in sixth grade.

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01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:58,320
Speaker 3: Maddie's asking if I'm throwing them away, Shane, keep them,

2523
01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:00,600
Speaker 3: you tell Maddies, I was the inspiration that led to

2524
01:56:00,640 --> 01:56:02,280
Speaker 3: your career. It helps you to have a beautiful home

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01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:03,560
Speaker 3: and raising great kids.

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01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:04,960
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Shane.

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01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:06,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I just feel like Matt, it's gonna look

2528
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:09,360
Speaker 4: at you and roll her eyes. I don't know, man, Yeah,

2529
01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:10,560
Speaker 4: you know you're white better than us.

2530
01:56:10,640 --> 01:56:13,000
Speaker 3: This one's a little nervous. He goes, the regret would

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01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:14,880
Speaker 3: be harder to live within a resentful wife.

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01:56:15,080 --> 01:56:20,960
Speaker 1: Well wow, wow, that sounds like that sounds like he's.

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01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:23,920
Speaker 3: Been there for a while, like a terrible Uh think

2534
01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 3: one of the easier things to do is call someone

2535
01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:27,240
Speaker 3: else's wife resentful.

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01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:30,800
Speaker 2: And then now does she have anything of like keepsakes?

2537
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:33,600
Speaker 2: Since she has nothing, she's not a hoarder of any sort.

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01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:36,960
Speaker 3: I think her mom maybe has some like beanie babies,

2539
01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:40,600
Speaker 3: So then use the transit of property. Now our beanie babies?

2540
01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:42,920
Speaker 3: Is that like the thing? Are they? Are they? If

2541
01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:44,400
Speaker 3: you have the tag of the beanie babies, is it

2542
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:45,160
Speaker 3: worth a lot of money?

2543
01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:45,560
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2544
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:47,720
Speaker 2: My mom claims that we still have some at our house,

2545
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:49,560
Speaker 2: and like b s because I haven't seen those things

2546
01:56:49,600 --> 01:56:52,800
Speaker 2: in twenty years, What the heck doests?

2547
01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:54,240
Speaker 3: Are those still a thing? Oh?

2548
01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:56,680
Speaker 2: Pokemon cards are for sure a thing. Yeah, you can

2549
01:56:56,720 --> 01:56:57,960
Speaker 2: make good money off of those.

2550
01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:01,280
Speaker 3: I don't have a a lot of my old baseball cards.

2551
01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:02,240
Speaker 3: I wish I did.

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01:57:02,400 --> 01:57:04,920
Speaker 5: I'm looking at Beanie a Yeah, James.

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01:57:05,200 --> 01:57:05,840
Speaker 1: James is young.

2554
01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:09,080
Speaker 2: He doesn't know the Beanie baby craze was was wild.

2555
01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:10,760
Speaker 5: There's that, there's care bears.

2556
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:13,480
Speaker 3: That's the only hoarding that you guys, if you want

2557
01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 3: to call me a hoard or fine, the only hoarding

2558
01:57:15,120 --> 01:57:18,440
Speaker 3: you guys have done is credential ish stuff. That's really it.

2559
01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:20,760
Speaker 1: No, I've got a lot of magazines. Okay, got a

2560
01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:23,400
Speaker 1: lot of magazines Sports Illustrated. Yeah, but I have every

2561
01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:27,520
Speaker 1: Playboy since I have zero Playboys. But I do have that,

2562
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:29,840
Speaker 1: and you know what else I have and I stopped

2563
01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:32,760
Speaker 1: getting it for a while. Someone bought me a subscription

2564
01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:34,960
Speaker 1: when I was in my twenties, like a Christmas present.

2565
01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:38,360
Speaker 1: I had like three or four years of national geographics

2566
01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:41,560
Speaker 1: around two nice like for some reason, it feels wrong

2567
01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:43,480
Speaker 1: to throw away a National geograph.

2568
01:57:43,160 --> 01:57:44,520
Speaker 3: Mark nothing wrestling based.

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01:57:45,600 --> 01:57:48,520
Speaker 2: Uh No, I don't think so. No, I don't have

2570
01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:50,320
Speaker 2: any I mean I have stuff at my parents house,

2571
01:57:50,360 --> 01:57:52,200
Speaker 2: but I don't even know. It's not wrestling base those

2572
01:57:52,200 --> 01:57:55,240
Speaker 2: are all gone for the most part and stuff, and yeah,

2573
01:57:55,320 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think if there's anything like notable.

2574
01:57:57,400 --> 01:57:59,280
Speaker 3: One additional thing I had growing up and my brother

2575
01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:01,400
Speaker 3: and I both had the is we had pennants on

2576
01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:04,160
Speaker 3: our ceilings. Okay, those I still have, so yeah, I

2577
01:58:04,280 --> 01:58:06,360
Speaker 3: don't have. I think I maybe gave a couple to

2578
01:58:06,440 --> 01:58:09,360
Speaker 3: my nephew. I don't have as many as I used to,

2579
01:58:09,480 --> 01:58:11,280
Speaker 3: but like I have. One of the coolest ones is

2580
01:58:11,320 --> 01:58:14,600
Speaker 3: I have a pennant from Bush Stadium Old Bush right

2581
01:58:14,640 --> 01:58:16,800
Speaker 3: here off sixteenth Street, and then the first game at

2582
01:58:16,840 --> 01:58:18,800
Speaker 3: Victory Field, and I've always thought that was kind of

2583
01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:21,880
Speaker 3: a cool and like a Final four logo from was

2584
01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:23,960
Speaker 3: it two thousand? I think that was the Final Four here,

2585
01:58:25,320 --> 01:58:28,520
Speaker 3: I have that, which I think is cool. So yeah,

2586
01:58:28,720 --> 01:58:30,360
Speaker 3: now that I'm talking out loud here, I got a

2587
01:58:30,400 --> 01:58:31,000
Speaker 3: lot of just.

2588
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:33,760
Speaker 4: I feel I still have like all of the probably

2589
01:58:33,760 --> 01:58:35,560
Speaker 4: because I don't live there anymore my parents. When I

2590
01:58:35,600 --> 01:58:37,000
Speaker 4: go home, I feel like I'm going back to like

2591
01:58:37,960 --> 01:58:38,800
Speaker 4: two thousand and two.

2592
01:58:39,240 --> 01:58:39,839
Speaker 1: I'm capsule.

2593
01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:43,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, like every medal ever won from sports is still there.

2594
01:58:43,760 --> 01:58:47,120
Speaker 4: You know a trophy, Yeah, you know the MVP from

2595
01:58:47,240 --> 01:58:49,880
Speaker 4: high school like stuff like that. And I'll say this

2596
01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:53,280
Speaker 4: as a true statement. V Pople was giving out of sympathy.

2597
01:58:53,320 --> 01:58:54,480
Speaker 4: I was not the best player on my team my

2598
01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:56,600
Speaker 4: senior year high school. My coach was just like, oh,

2599
01:58:56,720 --> 01:58:59,000
Speaker 4: you're the senior captain, you can have it, and I'm like, yeah,

2600
01:58:59,200 --> 01:59:02,440
Speaker 4: I was not clips to being the best player. But yeah,

2601
01:59:02,920 --> 01:59:05,760
Speaker 4: other than that, I think the hoarding wise, I probably

2602
01:59:05,800 --> 01:59:07,320
Speaker 4: got like that when I had sneakers. I was really

2603
01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:10,400
Speaker 4: into big into sneakers in college because my I want

2604
01:59:10,400 --> 01:59:12,280
Speaker 4: to say, my first checks just want all the shoes.

2605
01:59:12,360 --> 01:59:14,000
Speaker 4: But I even then, I almost a couple of years ago,

2606
01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:15,640
Speaker 4: I went down to Brownsburg they do that sneakers of

2607
01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:19,400
Speaker 4: the Santas thing, and uh yeah I gave away no joke.

2608
01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:21,200
Speaker 4: I probably gave you with twenty pairs of shoes and

2609
01:59:21,400 --> 01:59:23,280
Speaker 4: just was like, people, I know you should have sold them.

2610
01:59:23,360 --> 01:59:25,080
Speaker 4: I'm not really like the cell type and just like

2611
01:59:25,240 --> 01:59:26,040
Speaker 4: I don't want it anymore.

2612
01:59:26,040 --> 01:59:26,600
Speaker 5: You can just have them.

2613
01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:30,880
Speaker 4: So yeah, you love them, But again I gave away twenty.

2614
01:59:30,920 --> 01:59:34,040
Speaker 4: I probably still have like twenty more. So yeah, correct

2615
01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:36,440
Speaker 4: me if I'm wrong. You guys, Mark you're a Manning

2616
01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:40,960
Speaker 4: cast watcher. Yes, the Daniel Jones Manning cast in his room.

2617
01:59:41,800 --> 01:59:43,400
Speaker 4: Remember they showed his childhood room.

2618
01:59:43,560 --> 01:59:46,080
Speaker 3: Was it Eli was on one side and Peyton's on

2619
01:59:46,120 --> 01:59:50,240
Speaker 3: the other, and they have Kobe in there too, I

2620
01:59:50,320 --> 01:59:52,240
Speaker 3: can't remember, but he did say that that is how

2621
01:59:52,280 --> 01:59:54,880
Speaker 3: the room still still yeah, still is yeah, which I

2622
01:59:54,920 --> 01:59:56,520
Speaker 3: thought was funny because it's just like, you've been in

2623
01:59:56,520 --> 01:59:58,080
Speaker 3: the NFL for a while, you made a whole lot

2624
01:59:58,080 --> 01:59:58,400
Speaker 3: of money.

2625
01:59:58,480 --> 02:00:00,280
Speaker 4: I would have thought I would have thought, like, I

2626
02:00:00,280 --> 02:00:02,880
Speaker 4: wouldn't be surprised if he had, you know, parents had

2627
02:00:02,960 --> 02:00:05,160
Speaker 4: moved or whatever. But like he's like, no, he was like,

2628
02:00:05,280 --> 02:00:06,920
Speaker 4: they took that picture this morning, which I thought was

2629
02:00:07,000 --> 02:00:11,080
Speaker 4: great because that is I feel like, that's every family

2630
02:00:11,280 --> 02:00:13,920
Speaker 4: and one of us, right, Yeah, until like you know,

2631
02:00:14,080 --> 02:00:15,760
Speaker 4: I don't know, so they moved down and move out

2632
02:00:15,800 --> 02:00:16,720
Speaker 4: or downside or something like that.

2633
02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:18,760
Speaker 2: My room is still the same, Yeah it was. I'm

2634
02:00:18,760 --> 02:00:21,240
Speaker 2: looking at it now. It's Eli on one side of

2635
02:00:21,360 --> 02:00:25,040
Speaker 2: the bed, Kobe in the middle, and then Peyton on

2636
02:00:25,120 --> 02:00:25,640
Speaker 2: the other side.

2637
02:00:25,800 --> 02:00:28,840
Speaker 3: I bet wild is that then you become teammates with

2638
02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:31,600
Speaker 3: the dude that you had on the side of the wall,

2639
02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:34,360
Speaker 3: like Eli and were teammates.

2640
02:00:34,600 --> 02:00:38,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, who are the players that posters or magazine covers

2641
02:00:38,880 --> 02:00:40,320
Speaker 1: you had up on your wall when you were a kid.

2642
02:00:40,400 --> 02:00:45,480
Speaker 3: Well, definitely Tiger. My brother was a huge, huge Alonzo

2643
02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:47,960
Speaker 3: Morning fan. Ryan also had on the back of his

2644
02:00:48,120 --> 02:00:51,880
Speaker 3: door the the Rudy movie poster, which I always really

2645
02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:56,040
Speaker 3: really loved. Yeah, and then you know I had I

2646
02:00:56,080 --> 02:00:58,800
Speaker 3: had a ton of Penance James, how about you.

2647
02:00:59,840 --> 02:01:02,760
Speaker 4: I had Allen Iverson and Michael Jordan until years ago.

2648
02:01:03,160 --> 02:01:04,320
Speaker 4: I want to say, I might have been in high

2649
02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:06,200
Speaker 4: school when I realized, like, I didn't even watch Michael

2650
02:01:06,240 --> 02:01:07,240
Speaker 4: Jordan's I took that one down.

2651
02:01:08,000 --> 02:01:09,840
Speaker 3: I think my dad might have put you Iverson over

2652
02:01:09,880 --> 02:01:12,200
Speaker 3: Tyron lou No, actually.

2653
02:01:12,360 --> 02:01:13,920
Speaker 4: It's I should take a picture when I'll go back home.

2654
02:01:14,320 --> 02:01:17,160
Speaker 4: It's Iverson Duncan, a rare photo of him dunking a

2655
02:01:17,240 --> 02:01:20,200
Speaker 4: basketball in a game in the Philly uniform. So yeah,

2656
02:01:20,240 --> 02:01:22,480
Speaker 4: I had the Alan Everson one on the top of

2657
02:01:22,520 --> 02:01:25,040
Speaker 4: the door. MJ at the bottom. Took the MJ one

2658
02:01:25,120 --> 02:01:27,440
Speaker 4: down because I was like, that feels fraudulent. I didn't

2659
02:01:27,440 --> 02:01:30,000
Speaker 4: watch this guy out of respect for MJ, of course,

2660
02:01:30,080 --> 02:01:33,200
Speaker 4: but yeah, so now the Allen Iverson stands alone by itself, yeah, I.

2661
02:01:33,240 --> 02:01:36,680
Speaker 1: Had older guys will appreciate this. I had David Thompson

2662
02:01:37,000 --> 02:01:40,400
Speaker 1: all over in my room, sky Walker, and I always

2663
02:01:40,440 --> 02:01:44,280
Speaker 1: had one cool poster, the Orange Crush for the Denver Broncos,

2664
02:01:44,320 --> 02:01:47,280
Speaker 1: back when their defense was just dominating. They had no offense, but.

2665
02:01:47,640 --> 02:01:48,200
Speaker 6: That was it.

2666
02:01:48,320 --> 02:01:51,040
Speaker 1: So every kid I think that love sports has that experience.

2667
02:01:51,200 --> 02:01:53,200
Speaker 3: Listeners Sean here not asking Mark if he has a

2668
02:01:53,240 --> 02:01:55,040
Speaker 3: picture of the eighty five Bears, asking if Mark had

2669
02:01:55,080 --> 02:01:56,360
Speaker 3: a bunch of Hustler magazines?

2670
02:01:57,480 --> 02:02:01,480
Speaker 2: Is there any Not necessarily, but there was. I'm sure

2671
02:02:01,520 --> 02:02:03,280
Speaker 2: there were some of the woods in the parents, back

2672
02:02:03,680 --> 02:02:06,640
Speaker 2: in the forest, white guys in the woods all the time,

2673
02:02:06,800 --> 02:02:11,280
Speaker 2: no reason playing soldiers leave us alone, all right.

2674
02:02:11,880 --> 02:02:13,480
Speaker 1: I will let you guys go for the rest of

2675
02:02:13,520 --> 02:02:15,400
Speaker 1: the week. I've got some business I gotta go do.

2676
02:02:15,920 --> 02:02:18,600
Speaker 1: But I will see you again Monday morning. You guys

2677
02:02:18,600 --> 02:02:20,480
Speaker 1: will be back in a moment here and we'll take

2678
02:02:20,520 --> 02:02:21,280
Speaker 1: us through the end of the week.

2679
02:02:21,600 --> 02:02:24,960
Speaker 3: Mark just got word that the great Jack Doyle going

2680
02:02:25,000 --> 02:02:28,200
Speaker 3: to join us coming up tomorrow on the show. I

2681
02:02:28,280 --> 02:02:30,560
Speaker 3: really enjoyed him. And Matt Taylor have done some podcasts

2682
02:02:30,720 --> 02:02:35,440
Speaker 3: this year over in the Colts Audio Network, and Jack

2683
02:02:35,800 --> 02:02:38,080
Speaker 3: and his insight on Tyler Warren. I think it's specifically

2684
02:02:38,080 --> 02:02:40,320
Speaker 3: had been really good, but also just as the team

2685
02:02:40,440 --> 02:02:42,920
Speaker 3: as a whole. So he will be joining us coming

2686
02:02:42,960 --> 02:02:46,160
Speaker 3: up tomorrow at eight o'clock. That is former pacer ball

2687
02:02:46,240 --> 02:02:48,720
Speaker 3: boy Jack Doyle joining us on opening night. How about that?

2688
02:02:50,000 --> 02:02:51,320
Speaker 4: I mean, does he want to go out there and

2689
02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:52,720
Speaker 4: do it again? I mean, I mean I feel like

2690
02:02:52,800 --> 02:02:54,080
Speaker 4: they they should welcome him back.

2691
02:02:54,240 --> 02:02:55,720
Speaker 5: Who do they have? Reven the engine? Is that what

2692
02:02:55,760 --> 02:02:56,200
Speaker 5: they still do?

2693
02:02:56,360 --> 02:02:56,480
Speaker 7: Oh?

2694
02:02:56,560 --> 02:02:56,720
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2695
02:02:56,800 --> 02:02:57,120
Speaker 6: Do they do?

2696
02:02:57,200 --> 02:03:00,600
Speaker 5: The Pacers say, Jack, I vote for you. So I

2697
02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:01,520
Speaker 5: don't know, we'll see that.

2698
02:03:01,600 --> 02:03:02,920
Speaker 3: Die after one year or is that still?

2699
02:03:03,360 --> 02:03:03,600
Speaker 9: Don't know?

2700
02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:05,480
Speaker 2: I saw Will Ferrell do it a few years ago.

2701
02:03:05,640 --> 02:03:09,960
Speaker 2: Fifty cents done it. I'm pretty sure interesting Caitlyn done.

2702
02:03:09,880 --> 02:03:14,080
Speaker 3: It yet I would assume yeah, well, I mean yeah, yeah.

2703
02:03:15,400 --> 02:03:15,880
Speaker 5: They still do?

2704
02:03:16,040 --> 02:03:19,600
Speaker 3: You know, very unique seven and a half point underdog tomorrow,

2705
02:03:19,760 --> 02:03:22,400
Speaker 3: Pacers and Thunder. It'll be US three the rest of

2706
02:03:22,520 --> 02:03:25,880
Speaker 3: the week. Jeff off to Charlotte. So myself, Kevin Bow

2707
02:03:25,960 --> 02:03:28,480
Speaker 3: and James Boyd and Mark Dyke and James. I was

2708
02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:30,720
Speaker 3: trying to think Colts get back to practice later today.

2709
02:03:31,080 --> 02:03:35,200
Speaker 3: Josh downs, you know the concussion protocol for him where

2710
02:03:35,320 --> 02:03:37,600
Speaker 3: is he at? And then the defensive end guys, and

2711
02:03:37,680 --> 02:03:40,480
Speaker 3: then I guess anyone else that maybe got hurt Sunday

2712
02:03:40,520 --> 02:03:41,400
Speaker 3: and we don't know about you.

2713
02:03:41,880 --> 02:03:43,200
Speaker 5: I would also throw an Ashton Dueling.

2714
02:03:43,280 --> 02:03:43,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, Douling.

2715
02:03:43,960 --> 02:03:45,360
Speaker 4: He was one that I kind of forgot about earlier

2716
02:03:45,400 --> 02:03:48,440
Speaker 4: throughout the show, but yeah, he was probably the reason

2717
02:03:48,480 --> 02:03:51,600
Speaker 4: why Adie Mitchell was active this Sunday, being down to

2718
02:03:51,880 --> 02:03:56,280
Speaker 4: receivers in your rotation. So yeah, that's always the biggest

2719
02:03:56,320 --> 02:03:59,600
Speaker 4: thing on Wednesdays is who's practicing? And like you said,

2720
02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:01,920
Speaker 4: are there any new injuries we were not aware of?

2721
02:04:02,200 --> 02:04:04,320
Speaker 4: I mean we would ask Shane and we have act Shane,

2722
02:04:04,360 --> 02:04:05,880
Speaker 4: but sometimes he just says, hey, wait for the injury

2723
02:04:05,920 --> 02:04:07,840
Speaker 4: report and it's like, all right, well we tried.

2724
02:04:08,520 --> 02:04:08,640
Speaker 6: Oh.

2725
02:04:08,760 --> 02:04:10,800
Speaker 3: Eddie Garrison says they haven't done the old rev up

2726
02:04:10,840 --> 02:04:11,520
Speaker 3: for a couple of years.

2727
02:04:11,760 --> 02:04:12,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there you go.

2728
02:04:13,320 --> 02:04:16,200
Speaker 5: M shows. How into have they done nothing?

2729
02:04:17,600 --> 02:04:17,760
Speaker 1: Well?

2730
02:04:17,840 --> 02:04:19,480
Speaker 5: I mean, why am I blanking on this? I feel

2731
02:04:19,480 --> 02:04:20,040
Speaker 5: like I should know this.

2732
02:04:20,440 --> 02:04:24,880
Speaker 3: I was just yeah, I don't, you know, I don't

2733
02:04:24,880 --> 02:04:25,440
Speaker 3: really think they have.

2734
02:04:25,720 --> 02:04:27,560
Speaker 5: Like during the playoffs, it was just like throw the

2735
02:04:27,600 --> 02:04:28,400
Speaker 5: ball up, let's hope.

2736
02:04:28,560 --> 02:04:30,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think they have like an anvil type

2737
02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:32,600
Speaker 3: of thing, or you know, any sort.

2738
02:04:32,440 --> 02:04:34,040
Speaker 4: Of well we have who's your ninety seven cent and

2739
02:04:34,080 --> 02:04:36,880
Speaker 4: get JB to rev the engine. I don't know who's

2740
02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:39,280
Speaker 4: always calls me Indiana Bones, So if I get an

2741
02:04:39,280 --> 02:04:42,200
Speaker 4: Indiana Bones Jersey, I would totally rev the engine.

2742
02:04:42,600 --> 02:04:47,000
Speaker 3: There's no way that Titans make this a game on Sunday, right, I'm.

2743
02:04:46,880 --> 02:04:47,440
Speaker 1: Gonna say no.

2744
02:04:47,560 --> 02:04:49,160
Speaker 4: I know the NFL is weird, but I just like

2745
02:04:49,200 --> 02:04:52,600
Speaker 4: the talent gap is so big when it comes to

2746
02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:55,720
Speaker 4: the Titans and the Colts that it's hard to really

2747
02:04:57,040 --> 02:04:59,520
Speaker 4: mess up to a degree or even have weird things

2748
02:04:59,560 --> 02:05:00,720
Speaker 4: happen when you lose that game.

2749
02:05:00,840 --> 02:05:03,480
Speaker 2: I will say I don't love the two touchdown and

2750
02:05:03,600 --> 02:05:06,240
Speaker 2: more spread in a division game, though, I think that.

2751
02:05:07,160 --> 02:05:09,120
Speaker 4: Do you get some jews from, you know, having a

2752
02:05:09,200 --> 02:05:11,960
Speaker 4: new coach in there and seeing a team for the

2753
02:05:12,040 --> 02:05:14,720
Speaker 4: second time division opponent. I mean all these factors, but

2754
02:05:14,800 --> 02:05:17,160
Speaker 4: I just feel like this team, this Colts team, that is,

2755
02:05:18,280 --> 02:05:22,040
Speaker 4: they're really good this season at handling business against opponents,

2756
02:05:22,040 --> 02:05:22,960
Speaker 4: They're just not on their.

2757
02:05:22,960 --> 02:05:26,160
Speaker 3: Level and Tennessee to take a step further. Jeffrey Simmons

2758
02:05:26,200 --> 02:05:29,520
Speaker 3: got hurt on Sunday, Right, that's the best talent gap

2759
02:05:29,760 --> 02:05:32,200
Speaker 3: right there. I know Calvin Ridley and shout out to

2760
02:05:32,760 --> 02:05:35,200
Speaker 3: Taveri's award for that. He was really bad in Week

2761
02:05:35,240 --> 02:05:37,360
Speaker 3: three against the Colts, but he didn't play on Sunday

2762
02:05:37,400 --> 02:05:39,120
Speaker 3: with an injury, so his status is also up there.

2763
02:05:39,280 --> 02:05:41,160
Speaker 3: I's think two of their four or five best players,

2764
02:05:41,240 --> 02:05:44,280
Speaker 3: so they don't have many good players. I'm not Yeah,

2765
02:05:44,520 --> 02:05:47,280
Speaker 3: it's a stretch. And I think back to Week three.

2766
02:05:47,680 --> 02:05:51,720
Speaker 3: You know, in that game they do have taij. Spears,

2767
02:05:51,760 --> 02:05:53,520
Speaker 3: so him and Tony Pollard I do think is a

2768
02:05:53,640 --> 02:05:56,120
Speaker 3: nice running back duo. They're a little healthier on the

2769
02:05:56,160 --> 02:05:59,320
Speaker 3: offensive line. But still, I mean there's nothing that I

2770
02:05:59,360 --> 02:06:01,720
Speaker 3: can point to for that. And you know, when you

2771
02:06:01,800 --> 02:06:04,440
Speaker 3: think back on Week three, James, you know, couple plays

2772
02:06:04,480 --> 02:06:06,680
Speaker 3: stand out. First off, you know, I remember the Daniel

2773
02:06:06,720 --> 02:06:08,680
Speaker 3: Jones play. I remember he was kind of under siege

2774
02:06:08,840 --> 02:06:12,240
Speaker 3: on that third down pass rush, Whodini escapes takes off

2775
02:06:12,280 --> 02:06:14,720
Speaker 3: with the scramble slide next time, and that that would

2776
02:06:14,720 --> 02:06:16,160
Speaker 3: have been their first punt I think of the year

2777
02:06:16,280 --> 02:06:18,960
Speaker 3: maybe at that point. Yes, he did take a big

2778
02:06:19,080 --> 02:06:21,440
Speaker 3: hit off that, and then really the play of the

2779
02:06:21,480 --> 02:06:24,360
Speaker 3: game is probably the Jonathan Taylor touchdown run Tyler Warren

2780
02:06:25,040 --> 02:06:28,480
Speaker 3: playing as a full back, and then Taylor breaking a

2781
02:06:28,520 --> 02:06:30,960
Speaker 3: couple tackles there at the second third level and out

2782
02:06:31,000 --> 02:06:33,560
Speaker 3: running everybody into the end zone. So you know, cam

2783
02:06:33,640 --> 02:06:35,680
Speaker 3: Moore did move the football a little bit in that

2784
02:06:35,760 --> 02:06:39,320
Speaker 3: Week three matchup that probably should be noted. But still

2785
02:06:39,440 --> 02:06:42,720
Speaker 3: the Colts, that was a game where they handled their business.

2786
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Speaker 3: I you know, I strongly disagree to those that thought

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Speaker 3: that was a trap potential game in Week three. I

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02:06:48,480 --> 02:06:50,000
Speaker 3: was like, wait a minute, your first road game of

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Speaker 3: the season. You know you've struggled in the division over

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Speaker 3: the year. My have we developed since then? Yeah, now,

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Speaker 3: like this, if you wanted to call it trap game, okay,

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Speaker 3: I can. I can hear you out on it. You know,

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Speaker 3: you just played a game that you know you probably

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02:07:03,920 --> 02:07:06,280
Speaker 3: circled more on the calendar with the Chargers. I don't

2795
02:07:06,320 --> 02:07:08,760
Speaker 3: know if you're necessarily looking ahead to at Steelers, but

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Speaker 3: you know it's an interim head coach. This does have

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Speaker 3: a few more of those elements to it. But I

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Speaker 3: just think Tennessee is really bad.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I do think at some point, because it's

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02:07:18,000 --> 02:07:20,360
Speaker 4: the NFL, the Coat will lose a game they're supposed

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Speaker 4: to win that their favor to win. But at the

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Speaker 4: same time, I just don't see that happening to a

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Speaker 4: degree where you fall out of your face against the

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02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:32,160
Speaker 4: oponent you're not supposed to. Talking to Shane Styke in

2805
02:07:33,240 --> 02:07:36,280
Speaker 4: gathering more information on Daniel Jones and how obsessive he is.

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02:07:36,480 --> 02:07:39,120
Speaker 4: Those two really are together. It's hard for me to

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02:07:39,200 --> 02:07:41,320
Speaker 4: see them looking at any opponent and saying, oh, we

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Speaker 4: got this. I mean, every time we talked to any player,

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Speaker 4: we're like, oh, yeah, Daniel has hit me up on

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02:07:45,760 --> 02:07:48,920
Speaker 4: Saturday nights before the game saying, hey, did you double

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Speaker 4: check this check that I.

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Speaker 5: Put into you know, the game plan?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought you tossed a couple of good questions.

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Speaker 3: As tanneborderline the other day on Monday and him describing

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Speaker 3: Shane Styke and Daniel Jones city next to each other

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Speaker 3: on the plane right out there, which you know, I

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Speaker 3: you know some of my experiences, you know that's not

2818
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Speaker 3: always a given head coaching quarterback right next to each

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Speaker 3: other on the plane ride and you know, chatting about hey,

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Speaker 3: four hours here. The Colts, I think they pushed back

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Speaker 3: their travel a little bit to la that they wanted

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Speaker 3: players to stay up and try to stay as much

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Speaker 3: on Eastern time as they could. Mark, I should probably

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02:08:21,800 --> 02:08:23,640
Speaker 3: have asked Jeff before he left or out is what

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Speaker 3: we've got, like another minute or so anything appointment wise

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Speaker 3: tonight just a bigger NBA slate.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely want to tune into some NBA. I

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02:08:32,800 --> 02:08:35,200
Speaker 4: feel like I'm might be in the minority there. My

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02:08:35,280 --> 02:08:37,320
Speaker 4: dad's always like, oh, I can't focus on the NBA

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Speaker 4: with the NFL is going on, But well there's no NFL.

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Speaker 4: I'll tune in, and I do like I'm trying to

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02:08:42,600 --> 02:08:44,080
Speaker 4: like just get my bearings when it comes to all

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Speaker 4: the different setups now with NBA coverage.

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Speaker 5: You know, last night was NBC.

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Speaker 4: I think ESPN tonight might be the debut of the

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Speaker 4: new like Inside NBA show.

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Speaker 1: That's correct.

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Speaker 3: Pacers are ESPN tomorrow right along with Chris Quinn JJ

2839
02:09:00,160 --> 02:09:04,640
Speaker 3: to go that that crew. And then again, the Pacers

2840
02:09:04,680 --> 02:09:06,400
Speaker 3: have a tough schedule. We'll probably get into a little

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Speaker 3: bit more tomorrow. But you know, you got road trips

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Speaker 3: right after this. Memphis, I think it's Memphis, Minnesota, Dallas,

2843
02:09:12,880 --> 02:09:15,440
Speaker 3: and then you come home Golden State and Milwaukee is

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02:09:15,480 --> 02:09:17,360
Speaker 3: in there. Atlanta's kind of a sneaky team in the

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Speaker 3: East this year, there and there, and then you go

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Speaker 3: out west after that.

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Speaker 4: I feel like we're getting to that point of the

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Speaker 4: year where things started to get a little crazy for us,

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Speaker 4: just schedule wise, with trying to keep up with all

2850
02:09:26,840 --> 02:09:28,880
Speaker 4: the games, because Cosgooball's around the courrent corner as well,

2851
02:09:28,960 --> 02:09:30,879
Speaker 4: and you know me, I love more high school.

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02:09:30,680 --> 02:09:33,600
Speaker 3: Hoops as well college basketball. Certainly we'll start to have

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Speaker 3: some weaknight attention on top of that. Thank you to

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Speaker 3: Scott Dolson for joining us. Really enjoyed that. That'll be

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Speaker 3: up and Mark already has that up on the podcast again.

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Speaker 3: It'll be US three tomorrow, Jack Doyle at eight oh five. Everybody,

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Speaker 3: have a great, great Wednesday. We'll talk to you tomorrow.