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Speaker 1: it is pacers and sixers inside of game Bridge Field

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Speaker 1: House and to chat more about that. It is our

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Speaker 1: weekly convo with the head coach, Rick Carlisle coach. We

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Speaker 1: always appreciate it, especially.

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Speaker 2: On a game day. How are you doing doing fine?

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Pascal Siakam. Saw he popped up on

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Speaker 1: the injury report elbow and is doubtful for tonight. We

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Speaker 1: saw him play and play very well in his return

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. Is that something that happened during the game

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I did. I did, having a play. I believe

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Speaker 2: it happened when he drove and I think Chris Middleton

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Speaker 2: was risk, but oh, elbow risk one of the two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's it's a risk. But looking at the

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Speaker 3: rest of your roster, Rick, when you look at what

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Speaker 3: Kobe Brown has offered you all, what do you think

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Speaker 3: has led to some of his uh I would say, hey,

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Speaker 2: Well, our style plays quite different from the Clippers, so

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Speaker 2: I think it suits him a little bit better. And

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Speaker 2: it's just it's just a different kind of way of playing.

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Speaker 2: You know, we played faster, we play with more with

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Speaker 2: And you know, we've we've shelped him with a couple

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Speaker 2: good all round player. He's versatile, he can play multiple

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Speaker 2: you know the game he had in New York in

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Speaker 2: drove it, you know, that game that's an overtime win

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Speaker 3: Rick, you talked about the style of play that you

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Speaker 3: all have with your franchise of trying to play random.

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Speaker 3: What is that balancing act like in a season like

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Speaker 3: this where you have so many different guys playing and

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Speaker 3: But have you had to run maybe more set plays

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Speaker 2: some things behind the scenes. I think that they can

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Speaker 2: And after making a deal like this, you know, with

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Speaker 1: And that's a voice of Rick Carlisle Pacers. It's a

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Speaker 1: game day for them. They got the Sixers tonight. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna guess a few people here at the Convention Center,

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Speaker 1: here at the NFL Combinal slide over to Gamebridge Field

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Speaker 1: House to watch Pacers and Sixers tonight. One more kind

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Speaker 1: of on the Zubats front, Coach, you know you've touched stylistically,

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks he couldn't make his return. Do

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Speaker 2: And it's not just beneficial for them, it's really important

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Speaker 1: Again, we are live here at the NFL Combine Pacers

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he came down with it last week. He was

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Speaker 1: Again, Rick Carlisle with us here. It's pacers and six

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Speaker 1: Coach last one and as always, we thank you for

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Speaker 1: the NBA what I've called very selective punished in here

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know, I put out a statement about it.

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Speaker 1: What a cluster. To say the least coach is always

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Speaker 1: we appreciate it. Good luck tonight and we'll chatut you

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Speaker 1: next week.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thanks, take your guys,